satisfactory

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Xeno-Basher

[leaden turret]

tada

[warped pawn]

rebar gun

[shut lava]

Iron plate gun

[craggy mica]

What does the nail costs?

[fluid sapphire]

you can make regular 'iron rebar' from iron rods

then make other kinds of rebar from iron rebar

[craggy mica]

So basically iron Rod with a few extra steps?

[fluid sapphire]

just one step from rod to iron rebar

then additional step if you want different types of rebar

[green fiber]

literally just one extra step after iron rods for the basic rebar

[fluid sapphire]

yeah, i mean its like literally anything

make something out of something else

[craggy mica]

Like does diff rebar give diff dmg

So its just a gun right

[green fiber]

yes

different rebars do different things.
you'll find out once you craft the other ones

the rebar gun is most comparable to a crossbow.
single shot, reload after every shot

like its almost literally the crossbow from half life

[shut lava]

Fortnite term pls

[green fiber]

Crossbow but Mag size is 1

[shut lava]

Thanks

[warped pawn]

what do i do with 1 bioburner

ineed power 😭

[green fiber]

get more

skill issue

[warped pawn]

omg

wait i have enough for a cpp

yoo W

i need to make dimensional depots 😭

[green fiber]

then just get some spheres

and SAM i guess

[warped pawn]

unfortunately a cpp isnt enough for my cannon

coal gen

[sharp sentinel]

Aaand I have fallen into building long conveyors once more. I just cannot stop myself, the world must convey.

[neon hollow]

Just unlocked tier 5 and 6 I had to get off because the amount of new stuff overwhelmed me but I’m excited for the jet pack and trains finally

[neon hollow]

I have conveyors going like at least 400m the pasta never ends

[red linden]

I initially built 4x 2km to carry coal only to notice I don't have to

[sharp sentinel]

It's just so much easier to do conveyors up to 1km. I do want to do trains, trucks, and automobiles but they feel like solutions for much vaster distances than something so close.

[primal haven]

trucks are awesome for those distances

also if you use enough, they run into each other and its adorable

[sharp sentinel]

Trucks cannot climb over mountains, sadly.

[primal haven]

sure they can! use ramps!

need more throughput? add another truck!

[green fiber]

have a vertical cliff face? use conveyor lifts to transfer stuff from a low station to a high station

[primal haven]

thats the spirit!

this save I setup a station just as a fueling station too

I add it as a third stop if I dont have fuel near the endpoints

I really think people underestimate trucks

[zenith pecan]

I forgot how much space making crystal oscillators took 🤣

[green fiber]

they come with some stuff that makes them seem more comfortable to use than trains on the surface.
the main downside i guess is that its an inflexible process and its not very tolerant of errors

wanna move the station over a few meters? gotta redo the route now

[lost wagon]

Can you find sam ores in those rocks around the map or they are just in veins?

[frail sleet]

only veins

[green fiber]

there were some of those rocks around. But they are pretty rare now. I think i found like.... 2?

[sharp sentinel]

Think I'm going to build a short train run to get plastic over to my current factory. Or, I could use the other much easier to access oil fields for plastic and rubber production and have the one I built earlier powering just fuel generators. Blue Crater just seems like a huge pain to run a train from.

[green fiber]

maybe they removed them completely by now

[frail sleet]

I haven't ever seen one in 1k hours, heard it was an alpha thing

[sharp sentinel]

Beach islands are so much easier.

[lost wagon]

Because I am trying to understand how are you supposed to find them organically without stumbling into it when entering a cave randomly

[frail sleet]

There are quite a few around, and some are obvious if you're nearby

[warped pawn]

cannon works.

[whole zinc]

where can i report bugs?

[warped pawn]

yay

[lost wagon]

Because normally the order is finding the rock, then researching on mam and unlocking the scan to find veins

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @leaden turret

[whole zinc]

thx

[sharp sentinel]

I noticed from 1.0 to 1.1 they massively reduced the frequency of the voicelines you hear from alien stuff.

[whole zinc]

wait i cant really do anything on the website

[green fiber]

probably same reason for reducing the frequency in which ada insults anything you do

[green fiber]

log in.
you need an account

[lost wagon]

Lame

[whole zinc]

oop ok

[green fiber]

remember to search for similar reports first

before you make a new report

[hard ivy]

And if you find one, upvote it and if you have some extra information, add it in the comments

[sharp sentinel]

Can you use a merger to run to different materials into the same depot?

[tropic dawn]

is there any way to get rid of those green gas mushrooms?

[zenith pecan]

Yeah, bomb them 💥

Hmm, now I have the place running, is 60 oscillators per minute just for sending to a depot a little too much 😵‍💫

[sharp sentinel]

Yeah, for ages I overclocked and doubled everything until I realised most stuff makes exactly as much as I need so there's really no reason to be doing that.

[zenith pecan]

I sort of looked at the three relatively inaccessable quartz nodes in the rocky desert and thought, I can make those do something useful, then I went and built this! #screenshots message , it's sole job is to provide 450 quartz crystals, 750 silica & 60 oscillators for the depots, and overflow to sink.

[sharp sentinel]

Can always run a line to a sink.

Ah, hehe.

[boreal musk]

unless you're spamming billboard like a madman, 60/min into depot sounds overkill

i usually settle with 5-10/min

[zenith pecan]

Billboards are embedded into my tunnel network walls to enforce lighting.

[primal haven]

that can be annoying but you can also place down stations on existing paths and they will just add on

[zenith pecan]

So yeah they do get spammed.

[boreal musk]

go for it then

[green fiber]

sure, but when when you have to mover a station over for adjustments there is no easy fix for that as it may or may not be able to re-attach to the path in a way thats functional

[zenith pecan]

The facility is already running, it's taking time for the manufacturers to spin up, four are still offline atm.

[restive drum]

when starting, tier 1-4, how do you plan out your factory buildings?

I find it difficult since everything is quite far.

[primal haven]

luckily I havent had to move a station in that way. I did forget to save a path once though and then deleted the truck

[primal haven]

I started putting down roads as soon as I got trucks

[lost wagon]

also about SAM, the something something needing electromagnetic storage is just flavor or an actual mechanic

[primal haven]

I have a bunch of factories around the rocky desert area and trucks have been perfect for that type of distance

for factory buildings try to figure how many machines you need and then build a foundation for it. I usually end up with an extra floor though cause im bad at planning

[boreal musk]

trucks if you can spare coal for their fuel
or just belt it, since its very early in the game, you dont have that much choice atm

[hard ivy]

Yes, but if one of them fills up, all will stop being uploaded

[primal haven]

I will say you dont need to rush the early game, it can be plenty complex on its own if you try to push it a bit

I think its a good idea to try to find hard drives, it makes some of the phase 2 stuff easier to handle

by easier I mean less complex or less machines

[lost wagon]

yea, iron pipe reduced the amount of constructors I needed for Special Plate

[restive drum]

thanks!

[restive drum]

thank you

[hard ivy]

Build stuff near nodes and Depot the output. It's the bare minimum of transportation

[restive drum]

so decentralize everything?

[primal haven]

cloud storage for at least like concrete and plates would make a big difference

[hard ivy]

That's what I do. I don't see any reason to collect resources and production in one location

Well, maybe aesthetics, but I don't care about that

[lost wagon]

with the magic storage there is no reason

[restive drum]

thats good. I tried centralizing, it makes it quite painful

[lost wagon]

the only reason to have a central storage was to make it easier for you to get the stuff to build

[primal haven]

at the beginning you likely will centralize a bit, but theres no practical need to keep things close together

[restive drum]

cool, so just use transportation to transport final necessary outputs in a centralized location?

[lost wagon]

if it use 2 different veins that aren't close to eachother, you will have to transport it from one to the factory on the other yes

like I had to bring coal down from the mount olympus

[primal haven]

yeah I try to use things depending the distance, belts get used a lot but trucks deliver things from one factory to another

[restive drum]

I remember I used to do that in 0.6 I think

are there any alternative to coal powerplants now?

[primal haven]

for example I have my smart plate and versatile framework factory about 1000m from the space elevator so i have trucks delivering them to it

[restive drum]

tyty

[lost wagon]

the closest coal I have are those in the lake crater in the mountain high up

so I have to bring it down lmao

[primal haven]

I did have a fuel station set up near my main factory that I could have trucks run by just to refuel too

so instead of two stops for a route it would be three

[restive drum]

ahh cool

[lost wagon]

you can turn wood into charcoal with alterante recipe, but you still have to run around for wood

[primal haven]

yeah eventually the trucks stall out

[restive drum]

rips

coal too important

[primal haven]

i might be a bit biased though I really like the trucks, they do ridiculous stuff all the time, I get run over constantly

I got thrown down a 4m ramp once

[lost wagon]

I like trucks too, I just don't like to build "roads" because foundations look ugly

[primal haven]

Ive been putting curbs and railings on them

[fathom shuttle]

I need tier 9 to make power shards right?

[south sinew]

customiser options cost too many tickets imo

[primal haven]

its not so bad, maybe some power poles or light poles

[south sinew]

yeah you do

[fathom shuttle]

Can I sloop the production

[vocal tide]

I have a question : why I have updated so quickly without notifying any update on Steam
While a friend of mine have a big download on epic game ?

[south sinew]

yeah

[sharp sentinel]

Y'know, I genuinely feel like I progressed way faster in Rocky Desert than I am on grassy plains. On the opposite side, Grassy Plains is very pretty. Or, well, was.

[fathom shuttle]

Oh nice, so I’ll only need 2 machines to get 20/min

[ashen belfry]

Yes. You can.
But production is higher than you need them.

[reef basin]

steam supports differential updates, epic doesn't

[hard ivy]

Have fun dealing with the power consumption

[primal haven]

I think rocky desert is more balanced for early game than the grassy plains

[opal silo]

Guys how to open logs on Satisfactory

[ashen belfry]

Just sloop the power production lol

[fathom shuttle]

Slooping + OC is like 7x power consumption right?

[lost wagon]

chameleon foundation that takes the appearance of the surface it's on when?

[neon hollow]

I wanna use the trucks but I don’t have like a roadway so I just have random factories everywhere with just super long conveyers

[hard ivy]

13.43 times. But 5x the output so only 2.68 times per item

[vocal tide]

What ? I didn't understand

[sharp sentinel]

Yeah, I get the feeling that grassy plains is about teaching players how to spread out better and that's why the game suggests it for beginners.

[reef basin]

essentially, steam doesn't download whole file, but only changed bits

[fathom shuttle]

So if I’m using 2 quantum encoders that’s 53GW

Crazy lol

[primal haven]

might be an argument its safer there too but not by much I think

[hard ivy]

Sounds about right

[lost wagon]

that's game dependant, steam supports, but if the developer doesn't use it, you will download 10gb because 100mb of data was changed in that pak

[primal haven]

I like the SAM pit in the grassy plains, and the big arch and manta ray thing

[lost wagon]

I've had games that the files were completely different between epic and steam version, might be one of those

[vocal tide]

It is ok to continue playing 1.1 experimental as stable ?

[neon hollow]

I needa start building roads but the rocky desert is very not flat and this my first play through so I haven’t even started

[neon hollow]

I’m doing the rocky desert I felt like the grasslands were gonna be TO easy

[hard ivy]

The 2 versions are identical right now

[primal haven]

do the resource node chunks grow back?

[vocal tide]

And I have a blur effect on item moving on convoyer belts, I dunno how to disable that, I didn't notice such thing on experimental

[hard ivy]

Disable upscaling

[primal haven]

check the video setting for conveyers

[sharp sentinel]

They feel like it until lategame. Over here trying to figure out how I'm going to get plastic from 4km away to the grasslands, or if I should build stuff inbetween and then move whatever I make in those areas.

In my rocky desert playthrough I have a pretty level train running plastic, rubber, and residual to a factory that's making almost everything. I abandoned that playthrough though to hear the new voicelines 1.1 dropped, and to experiment with actually using walls...

I was very spaghetti in that other one...

Bluuugh, I don't wanna travel all the way back to Blue Crater to get my explorer but I needs it...

[primal haven]

yeah phase 3 start in grassy plains gets complicated

[sharp sentinel]

Once I get drones it'll all be easy.

Until then though...

[craggy mica]

Wait does everyone have the same map?

Like up to ore placement anf everything

[vocal tide]

I don't find the setting

[primal haven]

yeah its a handcrafted map its not generated

[craggy mica]

Is the ore still the same

[primal haven]

everything is

[craggy mica]

Damn 💔

[sharp sentinel]

It also helps actually talk about the game with other players. You can discuss where something is, and how the other person overcame obstacles to utilise it.

[neon hollow]

I literally was like stressing when I unlocked encased steel beams cuz I didn’t know if I should just connect it to my frame and beam factory but I also wanted to make the automated wiring so I went across the whole map found all the nodes i needed decides I didn’t want to make a power generator went back and redesigned my whole steam factory basically

[craggy mica]

Do yall think we gonna go to the ocean after some time?

[fathom shuttle]

Well if I’m using 2 machines for that then it would be 50/min, definitely overkill for anything I’ll need lol

[leaden turret]

just play subnautica
official response when it comes to water exploration 😛

[craggy mica]

Lmao

How can i pollute the ocean with conveyor belts then 💔

[vocal tide]

What settings?

[sharp sentinel]

I do need to play Subnautica again. I lost all willpower when I found out when I did play the game it didn't do steam cloud and I lost 72 hours of my life.

[primal haven]

conveyer visual quality

[leaden turret]

you can wet your spaghetts all you wants

[primal haven]

the game set mine to medium by default

[neon hollow]

My belts aren’t spaghetti but also are bc I have them spanning long distances sometimes crossing others but in my factories I LOVE my 90° turns

[sharp sentinel]

They should add dams to do hydrothermal power, and just ruin all the pretty waterfalls.

[vocal tide]

This blur movement appeared in the latest version

[fathom shuttle]

I have everything cranked up, and the only thing that makes me drop below 60fps is lumen

[craggy mica]

How bad can we be?

[sterile blade]

Upscaling is in the video settings, after the texture/shadow/etc quality levels

[sharp sentinel]

After all, we're supposed to be exploiting this place. Why not ruin the view too?

[fathom shuttle]

Do dams work in this game?

[green fiber]

no

[vocal tide]

It is a setting that you have to check and uncheck or there is a sub menu ?

[green fiber]

theres no way to turn the flow of water into power directly

[sterile blade]

It's a drop-down selection iirc

[primal haven]

you can definitely make a dam anyways

[vocal tide]

Because my game is not in English and I'm trying to figure out what's the name of this setting in French

[sterile blade]

Just temporarily change it to English? 😅

[vocal tide]

Cannot for now, I'm hosting a multiplayer game

[sterile blade]

You don't need to restart the game to change language

[primal haven]

#screenshots message

its the highlighted setting

should be in the same spot no matter the language i would think

[vocal tide]

Ok, you suggest me to disable upscaling completely?
I would like to recoverer the setting from the experimental version

[sterile blade]

Funny that it's right below the aforementioned conveyor quality xD

[hard ivy]

Drag screen percentage to 100% idk

[vocal tide]

It's just that on experimental I have not any conveyer glitch

[craggy mica]

Guys whats the best way to get the tickets, what resource is the most effective

[sterile blade]

The percentage doesn't matter, it's the upscaling "method" or whatnot that makes the blur

[tropic dove]

Can maybe someone make an Overview for a Production Line that produces the Versatile Frameworks with the Miners, Smelter, Construcer and what they construct, and so on.
In Paint form would be very nice

[vocal tide]

The glitch appear when I jump
If I move the camera a little bit, the glitch disapear

[neon hollow]

I’m still very early game but I’ve been doing modular frames that I have had extra and they give a good amount of points

[sterile blade]

Sounds like you're looking for a production visualizer of sorts...
There's a few similar tools linked and pinned around the server (like in #welcome or #math-and-meta)

[tropic dove]

Thanks

[ripe basin]

Good day guys

[primal haven]

satisfactory tools website or satisfactory modeler steam app are good choices

[ripe basin]

Whats going on

[primal haven]

well, I blew a fuse running a train/hypertube loop out to the oil islands, so now Im building a power plant

[fathom shuttle]

So you can make trains infinitely long

[tropic dove]

I just put in an Item. At Total Power Usage there is 257**.**975 MW. Does this mean Thousand or is it a Decimal?

[ripe basin]

Sure, why not

[fathom shuttle]

Decimal

, means thousand

[sterile blade]

centesimal

[primal haven]

that would be rough if a frame factory cost 250 GW

[ripe basin]

I think space means thousand

[primal haven]

it depends on the language

[fathom shuttle]

it can mean that, but it’s , in English

[sharp sentinel]

Spent five minutes trying to figure out why my refineries weren't running. I'd never connected them to the fuel buffer.

[sterile blade]

Easy fix :D

[primal haven]

troubleshooting is half the fun!

[sharp sentinel]

My plans to turn Blue Crater into just a power supply are turning out delightfully well.

[zenith pecan]

Suddenly, my power station is justified, odd, this was a reply to a quantum encoder comment, bloody mobile discord.

[neon hollow]

I have a coal generator power plant and I still feel like I don’t haven’t enough power so yes definitely is justified

[lost wagon]

today I sat on my chair waiting for things to happen on my monitor, just to realize I forgot to turn on the PC

[neon hollow]

Actually I DONT have enough power

[primal haven]

5 GW was barely enough to finish phase 2 for me

im sort of bummed the fuel gens dont give that much power but im going to use it anyways so oh well

[undone yarrow]

Coal is rough yeah, it's not until you get fuel generators that power stops being as... Crushing

[sharp sentinel]

I've done that a few times after the power went out while I was at work.

[zenith pecan]

My power station generates 1.1tw some structures use a non-trivial amount of power, encoders, converters & accellerators.

[honest void]

Hi guys, I found a helmet on the ground. What is it?

[primal haven]

its a cosmetic

[sharp sentinel]

... I did phase 2 on 12 biomass burners.

[honest void]

How do I equip it?

[primal haven]

yeah I did that my last play through and hand crafted a bunch

[sharp sentinel]

I love handcrafting because if I press spacebar it becomes automated too.

[neon hollow]

I’m nowhere near that I’m still doing 75-150mw

[neon hollow]

Same I think

[primal haven]

This play through my goals are to unlock everything I can as early as I can, especially hard drives

and to automate and build factories as early as I can

[neon hollow]

Was running around getting biomass every 30 minutes

[zenith pecan]

Coal is awesome when coming from biomass, no more babysitting.

[mortal ginkgo]

Real alpha males manually put coal into coal generators

[sharp sentinel]

I'm at 7,254.5 MW.

[leaden turret]

Pioneer isn't male

[mortal ginkgo]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo................................!

[sharp sentinel]

When I hit my first GW I'll probably stop for a bit. I'm only even using like 1/3rd of what I have now.

[primal haven]

you have 7 GW already

[zenith pecan]

That isn't a bad approach to get the coal plant going at full steam once the water system is primed, it saves the ramp up.

[mortal ginkgo]

ah yes I do that the first time to get the manifold running faster

[sharp sentinel]

Sorry, I'm thinking of the next thing up. Where the game gives up and goes to single digits again.

[neon hollow]

I need fix my coal sushi belt of something bc even tho I have a mk2 miner once the belt hits the 7th coal generator it can’t keep up with the power output

[sharp sentinel]

This is officially the first playthrough where I'm slapping Awesome Sinks everywhere.

[neon hollow]

I do this a LOT

[primal haven]

I usually at least fill up the last machines on a manifold

[neon hollow]

I try to ramp them up so the belt can catch up but even after it catches up it lags behind and shuts off after maybe a hour

[sharp sentinel]

In my other save I have a ridiculously optimised coal power generator I built off a picture I saw somewhere. Want me to grab you a screenie?

[neon hollow]

Yes 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[shut lava]

Screenie of your feetie pls

[neon hollow]

Cuz I have 8 coal generators and 3 water extractors and it still lags behind if I don’t overclock it

[mortal ginkgo]

the problem isn't that its not enough, its just the floshing system

[sharp sentinel]

#screenshots message

This entire thing is overclocked.

[primal haven]

anyone have creative ideas for an 8-fuel generator factory layout?

[sharp sentinel]

I just realised this is 15 coal generators.

My ADHD really got away from me that day.

[primal haven]

nice I like the color a lot, thats a cool spot too

[mortal ginkgo]

What I mean is, fluids go flosh around, back and forth. Sometimes this causes to get some buildings to not get it fluids in time. there are ways to prevent that

[sharp sentinel]

Thanks, it's Rarity from MLP.

[primal haven]

I dont see why people dont recommend just sending extra water, its not really efficient or whatever but it solves a problem

[oak night]

Finished the first section of my very first reactor complex and coming out of my zombie like fugue state rn

[primal haven]

thats a good idea to copy colors like that, Im going to steal that idea!

[fathom shuttle]

It’s crazy that kibitz is putting 800 hours+ in a single save and he hasn’t unlocked mk6 belts or synthetic power shards… what’s the point of an end game factory if you’re not using the actual end game items

[primal haven]

hours doesnt mean much

[paper mauve]

can someone give me some inspiration. keep burning out or not wanting to play but I want to at the same time

[primal haven]

you could spend 800 hours getting to phase 5

[sharp sentinel]

How do I enter photo mode?

[primal haven]

just need a good idea to connect, what do you need to build at the moment?

[fathom shuttle]

He built a 625GW power reactor lol, it’s pointless to do all that while not unlocking the things that would make your factory end game

[sharp sentinel]

I should just look at keybinds, but also i can ask...

[fathom shuttle]

Press p

R if you want to fly around

[primal haven]

its not pointless, and now when they do unlock those things, they can do it again with the new stuff and have a new experience

its an incremental way to play that keeps the game interesting longer

[sharp sentinel]

Do you know where it stores the pictures?

[paper mauve]

Rebuild coal and turbofuel to look better. fix starter base and make it more profitable then continue with my polan for the playthrough

[fathom shuttle]

No? He would be just upgrading all belts and lifts to mk6, and the only new experience is to unlock the new tier

[fathom shuttle]

Steam I think

[neon hollow]

Thank you🙏🏽🙏🏽

[sharp sentinel]

Actually upgrading belts isn't always required and can ruin your efficiency.

[neon hollow]

You use close to the same color as me

[primal haven]

you could build an additional "starter base" somewhere else that supplements the first one, and then never look at the first one again lol

[sharp sentinel]

If your belt is moving too fast for the usage of the machine it'll cause backup down the line, so efficiency chasers won't do it.

[fathom shuttle]

Yea it depends on the situation but if it’s a mk3 miner you can get a lot more out of it

[fossil coral]

ok so are the crash sites in predetermined locations on the map? Do I just keep exploring further and further out?

[neon hollow]

How so

[fossil coral]

got my first hard drive and got cast screws, I need more, haha

[paper mauve]

theres a reason each biome will process everything there then it transports all of it towards the main base for furthur processing

[fathom shuttle]

Yea

[fossil coral]

but also probably gotta get the rebar gun because I hate trying to deal with a swarm of hogs with the zapper

[neon hollow]

I have a couple hard drives but I gotta connect power to it

[primal haven]

whats your coal and turbofuel look like right now?

[mortal ginkgo]

its a bit complicated to explain, just dont think them as conveyor belt, sometimes fluids can go backwards.

[paper mauve]

not even 50% complete

[primal haven]

I found a good way to spot them is get up high, probably using ladders, you can spot them from really far away

[sharp sentinel]

#screenshots message

This is my old save spaghetti factory, by the way. That very organised power layout for coal generators powers this nightmare.

[primal haven]

turbofuel factories are exhausting

[paper mauve]

C:/Users/Name of your PC/AppData/Local/FactoryGame/Saved/Screenshots

[paper mauve]

then it will be rocketfuel and it is yea

[neon hollow]

My water extractors are really close to my coal extractors I think my water pumps get full and flow back into the water extractor which brings down my flow rate

[zenith pecan]

Backwash can be irritating, good thing we don't have water hammer shattering joints and vacuum implosions.

[primal haven]

im struggling with making the fuel gens not just look like big rows of fuel gens

[fossil coral]

Is there someone good on youtube people would reccommend watching to learn more about satisfactory? The early game anyway

[primal haven]

Im thinking of putting one in a blueprint and trying to dress it up somehow

[paper mauve]

TotalExclipse

[sharp sentinel]

Man, this save is cursed.

[neon hollow]

Ngl once I saw the big stinger I turned passive mobs on cuz I ain’t fighting no big spider

[peak wasp]

What did Fred do to you?

[sharp sentinel]

Pretty sure this turbo fuel factory is powering drone stations that deliver turbo fuel to power another drone station that just delivers aluminum casings.

[primal haven]

would you want to share a picture of what youve built so far?

[zenith pecan]

Blueprint a concrete fighting hut and frag the big spiders with impunity.

[paper mauve]

??

[fossil coral]

oh that looks nightmarish. But from what I understand the enemies can destroy me but not my base?

[fathom shuttle]

Yea

[neon hollow]

Everytime I see the spider I drop a bomb on him

[fossil coral]

excellent I hated that about factorio

[primal haven]

you said you built half of it I think

[paper mauve]

oh yea

[sharp sentinel]

And the only walls are conveyor walls and walls with pipes in them, which makes no sense why didn't I just put conveyors and pipes going along instead of weird single walls?

[mortal ginkgo]

its not a "correct" solution but I solved my issue by using Pumps. Pumps only provide headlift in this game, but they also prevent backflow which prevents too much floshing.

so even if my coal gens did not need any pumps, they prevented backflowing

[fossil coral]

oh they actually simulated backflow in this game? that is cool

probably less cool when you have to deal with it haha

[neon hollow]

Did you put the like right after the extractor so that once the water leaves it can’t flow back?

[primal haven]

I believe there can be issues with pipe height too, like the lowest pipe will get the majority of the water, but i might be wrong on that

[mortal ginkgo]

I did that before coal gens connection. btw check this out too:
https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Coal-Powered_Generator#/media/File:Coal_Generator_Schematic.png

[sharp sentinel]

I'm glad I'm keeping ahead of the power usage in my new save. This one I'm looking back over is like neck and neck, and I have so many geothermals hooked to it that sometimes it's only just barely powering the whole thing.

[primal haven]

That looks great, I havent done something in that style before. Sort of looks like big hangars to me

[sharp sentinel]

In my new save I'm using the third diagram method, and in the one before I used the first. Exciting stuff. I remember there was an entire PDF file breaking down pipes and how to use them efficiently.

[primal haven]

I like the detail a lot

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah I read it all and understood a total amount of 5% of it all kek

[neon hollow]

I’m bouta unlock the jet pack finally and Its gonna save so much time building

[fossil coral]

I really wanna get past biomass, is coal in tier 3? I got solid biofuel and need to automate that tonight so it's not that bad, I'm mostly just waiting for enough resources to make the space elevator atm on my game

[neon hollow]

Bet thank you

[primal haven]

Maybe build a fake aircraft carrier or ship or something to hold the fuel gens

[hard ivy]

Remember to use Liquid Biofuel

[sharp sentinel]

Haha yeah... Totally...

[neon hollow]

Liquid biofuel??

[hard ivy]

For the jetpack. Best fuel for building for the entire game

[stone python]

It is just showing how the pipes are connected and where the pipes from the extractors connect to the mannafolds

[mortal ginkgo]

using it with Biomass is so funny, its like "bro I could jump, whats the point kek"

[mortal ginkgo]

Oh I know, its just that I read it before playing satisfactory, I was like "bro why so complicated"

[neon hollow]

Have I unlocked that already? Or is that hardrive recipe

[hard ivy]

You need to unlock fluid packaging

[primal haven]

you cant use liquid biofuel till phase 3

[neon hollow]

Oh😭

[primal haven]

you need to be able to package it

[neon hollow]

So the jet pack terrible

[primal haven]

its better if you press the space bar over and over instead of holding it

you get a ton more height

[sharp sentinel]

Going to take a satisfying break because looking at my old save makes me sick now.

[primal haven]

id keep your parachute though that things better in a lot of cases

you can also climb slopes with a parachute and you cant do that with a jetpack

[neon hollow]

I still gotta make the parachute…

[primal haven]

make it asap its a lot of fun

[frail sleet]

Valve does it without power consumption

[primal haven]

small shout out to the zipline as well

[ripe basin]

You can fly ower slopes with a jetpack

[neon hollow]

I have only found 1 sloop lol

[stone python]

so do pumps

[primal haven]

I can climb much higher with a parachute depending on the terrain than with a single tank of biofuel

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah, I think imma use them just for that. I just slightly hate that game just doesn't tell whats wrong. I was like, "why my farthest coal gens not taking water?"

[shy mulch]

I never bothered with the parachute, seemed like more hassle than it's worth, it's pretty easy to get jetpack that solves all your problems

[primal haven]

just look for anything slightly slanted outwards and ride it straight up in the air

it will pop you up in the air after as well

[ripe basin]

Yeah, depending on the terrain. Jetpack is constant

[neon hollow]

I gotta find sam and the entrance to the dumb quartz cave so I can make silka and crystals to make oscillators

[sharp sentinel]

I wish I could equip both jetpack and parachute in case I don't want to burn fuel to stop my descent.

[primal haven]

you can swap quick with a number key

if you open the inventory and hit 1, 2, 3 etc, it will swap those into your equipment

[shy mulch]

have fuel feeding into dimensional depot, you'll never run out

[stone python]

would be fun iuf that was possible

[zenith pecan]

The rocky desert one?

[primal haven]

the parachute is most useful before phase 3 of course, depends how much time you spend there

I went around the whole map and collected a couple hundred mercer spheres in phase 2 and it was really important

[neon hollow]

Yes

[fathom shuttle]

Building lots of power storage was easier than I thought

I have 3.6GWh blueprint which I can double to 7.2GWh if I double stack them

[zenith pecan]

Take a look at the satisfactory calculator (SCIM) you can show caves and their entrances, that cave has two pure & one normal quartz as well as a sam deposit

[fathom shuttle]

Should I daisy chain the batteries or nah?

[paper mauve]

Yea

[primal haven]

what would we need power storage for?

[fathom shuttle]

Alr

[zenith pecan]

If you build hundreds or thousands of those, you will go insane without chaining them 😜

[neon hollow]

BETTT im gonna do that when i get on later

[fathom shuttle]

Idk tbh I’ll just build it since my mini power storage helped stabilize my grid

[primal haven]

fair enough, they look really cool

[neon hollow]

Would daisy chaining the batteries combine the whole total battery storage or just mess you up if you need to connect it

[primal haven]

it should combine them

if you check an electricity pole it will say how much total battery

[neon hollow]

Does it also increase the total MW or will that stay the same

[primal haven]

I think technically batteries cost energy

once they are full they dont cost anything

[frail sleet]

Some stuff ingame has variable power generation or consumption, so power storages let you function with less overall generation.

They are also invaluable for kickstarting larger power plants which cost power for a while to get running, and for giving some buffer room to fix things if you accidentally overload the grid

[frail sleet]

Yeah, it's a one-time cost (so practically of little relevance)

[primal haven]

Yeah I think thats all true, I especially agree with the buffer point

do batteries show up on the graph as consumption or potential electricity?

[tough trellis]

why is there no vcs to chill in?

[fathom shuttle]

Yea my fuel power plant needed 6GW to startup and function

[tough trellis]

I just wanna chill, get some building advice lowkey

[primal haven]

how did you charge the batteries?

[tough trellis]

connect them

to your power grid

[primal haven]

is it because 6 GW was too much for your current grid to handle?

[tough trellis]

purchance

[frail sleet]

you can e.g. charge them with +2GW for 30 mins, and then drain -6GW for 10 mins and it will be fine

[primal haven]

yeah okay that makes sense

well since I just blew a fuse and need to build a power plant, I might as well deconstruct my last hypertube section and add some batteries

[reef basin]

*power storages 😉

[fathom shuttle]

My coal grid was 2GW

[reef basin]

batteries are an item

[primal haven]

my bad

i avoided batteries my whole first game

[fathom shuttle]

They charge from excess power your grid makes

[bronze gale]

is there a bug report channel?

[fathom shuttle]

Once they’re full, they stay full and only discharge if you exceed your grids power supply

[fossil ice]

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You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @reef basin

[bronze gale]

oop

[primal haven]

I meant in the context of launching a power factory but other people answered already

[fathom shuttle]

you need power to make power yk

My refineries + packagers set up needed 6GW to pump fuel to my fuel generators

[primal haven]

I figured people might use biomass burners connected to power storage but 6 GW would take a lot of burners or a lot of time

[neon hollow]

I also unlocked hyper tubes I wanna make either a hyper tube highway or just hyper tube cannons that will just launch me from a hub to different factories

[primal haven]

but yeah setting them up with your current grid to build up for a big discharge makes sense

[shy mulch]

biomass burners don't fill batteries

[primal haven]

you cant fill power storage with biomass burners?

[shy mulch]

nope

[primal haven]

seems odd but I believe you

[shy mulch]

biomass burners only burn exactly what is needed

[primal haven]

so there really is only the one way to go about it

[shy mulch]

if your power capacity is more than you're using, biomass burners just burn slower to compensate, they never over produce

[hard ivy]

They throttle to match consumption. Batteries charge from excess production. There is no excess production with biomass burners

[primal haven]

well they could always just program the power storage as power consumption but that could cause other issues im sure

either way im not going to lose sleep over it

[fathom shuttle]

You’ll need 200 biomass burners to startup the set

Not really practical vs building a power storage system once and forgetting about it for the rest of the game

[neon hollow]

I still don’t really understand what a power storage system would be useful for but once I get further in the game I’ll understand their usefullness

[primal haven]

well it turned out to be useful for me right now

I need 1 GW to turn my fuel gen system online

and I have like 100MW available

[zenith pecan]

I might build a legacy six gen biomass unit just for the hell of it.

[vocal tide]

The "hitbox" to load/unload truck is far away at left of the truck station

[fathom shuttle]

Build 3 power storage

[neon hollow]

Are you charging the batteries then combining them to reach 1GW?

[naive pendant]

Seems like a lot of people fully ignore power storage. But jumpstarting large power plants is one use.

[primal haven]

yeah I was planning to use biomass burners but now yall talked me into the power storage idea

[fathom shuttle]

Batteries can discharge an infinite amount of power as long as they last

For example they can discharge 1GW for 6 minutes instead of 100MW for an hour

[vocal tide]

Can't load trucks, the overlay "press C to load truck" is not appearing

[neon hollow]

So they can’t blow a fuse?

[zenith pecan]

Aside from using a single biomass burner to power the priming of my first coal plant, I usually just use the previous power station to boot up the newer one.

[fathom shuttle]

Yea, as long as they have enough power in them to meet demand

[vocal tide]

And it's the wrong cargo that is loaded

Two station next to them, wrong cargo is loaded

[naive pendant]

Wiki is saying power storage has unlimited discharge rate. So yea, quite useful for jump starting higher tier power production.

[fathom shuttle]

Ok so you can make them 3 tall in the blueprint designer…

[naive pendant]

I don’t personally use them though.

[zenith pecan]

I wonder if cascade power outages are still possible, Back in EA I managed to blow a fuse on a grid that was only 18 geothermals and 7200 power stores, using just a hover pack.

[hard ivy]

How?

[zenith pecan]

The afformentioned cascade, I hooked up a geothermal on the impure geyser, it blew instantly, when I connected the blown circuit to the rest of that grid seconds later, the whole thing blew.

No idea if such cascades can still happen or not, but was hilarious.

[vocal tide]

Can you fix the bug with truck loading/unloading station please?
They not working when they are too close

[primal haven]

the paths ive been using, they seem to have a huge radius around the station for initiating the load/unload

you can always move the station back a bit and leave the path too if that works

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

@vocal tide You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @true mulch

[fathom shuttle]

108 power storage building in 1 blueprint isn’t that amazing

Needs 10k copper wire btw

[vocal tide]

The loading stations need to be far away from another

[primal haven]

oh you mean two stations too close

[vocal tide]

Yeah

And it needs A LOT OF ROOM if we can't place them next to each other

[primal haven]

what about like across from each other

[zenith pecan]

My print if only 81 stores is actually too large for a 6x6 print designer, so I guess the 108 is multi-level.

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I stacked 3 ontop of each other

[vocal tide]

When they are too close, only one of them can load the truck and the other one is unusable

[primal haven]

yeah im just wondering if its simply a circle around the station or if its flat

[hoary shoal]

Can you blow up big rocks?

[steady glade]

are they cracked?

[hoary shoal]

Not the circle ones with stuff inside, they just seem to be apart of the terrain

[steady glade]

then no

[primal haven]

best way to figure it out is to try

[steady glade]

btw you can blow up some small rocks

[primal haven]

a lot of smaller rocks can be blown up

medium ish

[hoary shoal]

It’s like a mini cliff

Like there’s grass ontop I think

[steady glade]

then no way

[fathom shuttle]

I need gather 50k more copper wire

[frozen ingot]

gather? gotta make that stuff 😄

[tranquil hemlock]

I have about a dozen saves on Satisfactory (never gotten around to progressing past basic oil stuff, but that's beside the point) and I've only just given the tractor a try, and I'm now just like "Why did I never try this before?!" I'm tempted to start another new save just so I can do more with vehicles, rather than trying oversized conveyor routes

[frozen ingot]

i love those tractors 😄

they're so cute and fun

[primal haven]

seriously, and they make the factories feel a bit more alive

[frozen ingot]

setting up an automated tractor route for the first time in this game is one of my most memorable gaming moments

like over 35 years of gaming. Something about it is just delightful

[primal haven]

they really are sassy

[tranquil hemlock]

XD I only have the 1 route now, but I'm definitely making more tomorrow. I nearly decided to stay up longer just to play around with them

Tractors and blueprints. Stuff I've only just tried, and now I love

[mortal ginkgo]

When I first used them I thought the animation of station meant that "oh its 1 stack per animation I guess, cool." only to find out that it takes around 9 seconds to get a full tractor I was like uwotnow

[lost wagon]

maybe I should start to overclock things, it helps with space with less machines built

[sharp sentinel]

Remember, when you overclock it increases the required amount of material to make things as well so you have to watch that or you may actually wind up with about the same amount of machines just to sustain your overclock.

[mortal ginkgo]

be careful with the powerusage, its not linear

[fathom shuttle]

I have a lot spread around my factory

[fathom shuttle]

Yea definitely, just keep in mind that 2.5x overclock will increase power consumption by 3.5x

[lost wagon]

yea, will start with the productions lines that just need smaller clocks, like instead of 2 machines I can just have one with 25% overclock

[frozen ingot]

was just teasing about the word 'gather', that's all, maybe English is your second language in which case I apologise 😄

but yeah, find a new copper node perhaps? make mooooore

[shy zenith]

Hello, do I have to make a new save to play the new patch?

[frozen ingot]

you don't have to

[leaden ether]

Depends... I did, or will, I decided to stay on 1.0 till I finish this save rather than just toss 800 hours out in the middle of working on it :/

[shy zenith]

my game is crashing when I try to load it up

[leaden ether]

Yup, happened to me 😦

[shy zenith]

I don't want to play anymore then 😦

[frozen ingot]

might be cos of mods if you were using mods

[leaden ether]

If you are on steam I have some slightly involved instructions for downgrading back to 1.0 since CS doesn't seem fit to allow older versions to be downloaded normally from the site.

[shy zenith]

well I want to play on the latest patch but I had a world. Its okay, ill go play project zomboid or factorio thanks though

[leaden ether]

There are some nice things about the 1.1 patch but they are certainly missable if you want to complete your goals in 1.0.

[zenith pecan]

Crashes between patches is just one reason I won't mod.

[shy zenith]

I don't mod

[leaden ether]

It would be nice if they would fix the memory acess bug when loading a slightly broken save though. Mods or no, it should not freaking CRASH ever like that.

[zenith pecan]

The belt throughput monitors are one feature of 1.1 I love, the vertical splitters would be awesome if they snapped in half metre increments and allowed you to reconnect two of them if a lift is taken out, right now they're annoying garbage.

[fathom shuttle]

Yea it is, what would be the correct word of it?

I guess the word “fetch” works better

[frozen ingot]

'make' or 'produce', 'gather' and 'fetch' imply like, picking fruit or foraging

for parts like this you'd generally talk about producing them, making them, manufacturing them... that kinda thing

[lost wagon]

if it's already made then it's "pick up"

[fathom shuttle]

I’m getting them from my storage containers that are fed by the constructors so I assume gathering them is also correct

[winter bloom]

How pump work? Pump pump but liquid no go up.

[leaden ether]

1. Is it facing the right direction, 2) Is there fluid in the pipe below the pump (Though the pump animation would be stopped if that were the case) 3) It only goes up so far til you need another pump.

[lost wagon]

when you put it on the pipe you will see a blue pulse showing the direction

just have it go up

[fathom shuttle]

Connect it to power

[winter bloom]

It has power and is pumping.

[lost wagon]

how high is the pipe? Pump is only 20m, if it's more you will need to chain more pumps probably

[zenith pecan]

Don't put two pumps next to each other, they don't stack, only the headlift for the pimp at the top will count in that case.

[zenith pecan]

Unless he's using mk2, those are 50.

[bronze gale]

does hypertube wall hole just look bad rn?
is it bug?

[fathom shuttle]

Check the headlift

If you enter the configure menu it will be the number on the left

If its 19m then you need a second pump up top

[zenith pecan]

Just looks bad, since it doesn't black the hole at least, it does indeed look like the tube will smash you through concrete at speed.

I suck at typing on mobile 😵‍💫

[delicate spruce]

I got a real dumb question what’s the hot key to open blueprints

[primal haven]

could put it through glass instead

[sharp sentinel]

Woooo! Wooo! Successfully hit 10,004.5 MW!

Blue Crater is almost entirely fuel generators...

[fathom shuttle]

Blue crater is pretty big

[sharp sentinel]

I'm kidding it's actually only a small portion of it.

[fathom shuttle]

I have 160 and I still have like 75% of space left

[sharp sentinel]

I could, theoretically, put even more in it and completely do away with my coal generators...

I may yet. I kinda hate them now.

One of the groups can't be expanded so easily, sadly. I built a factory around two refineries.

[zenith pecan]

Not so big with my power station sat in it

[sharp sentinel]

And I am not gonna re-adjust it. I'd have to move my lizard doggo from his windowed prison.

[fathom shuttle]

How many do you have

[sharp sentinel]

What's the maximum output of a coal refinery?

I might start phasing them out if I add just four more fuel generators...

[cyan garnet]

Blueprints are part of the regular build menu, they don’t have their own hotkey

[zenith pecan]

Its a rocket fuel power station, three towers full of generators, you can find it in my post history, I'm actually not home and I hate mobile discord, generates 1.1tw.

[cyan garnet]

Coal isn’t used in refineries. Did you mean coal generator?

[fathom shuttle]

Woah, how much oil does that use?

[cyan garnet]

My suggestion is to leave any existing power production alone if it’s working and stable. The map is huge and has more resources than you could reasonably use in a playthrough

[sharp sentinel]

Ye, sorry my brain is all over the place.

[formal prawn]

lore-wise, what, if mentioned, does lizard doggo eat apart from pale berries?

[sharp sentinel]

I just want to elimate two specific locations where I've implemented coal generators. I have one randomly obstructing what would be an ideal truck route, and that one recessed area off Grassy Plains that has lots of stuff I could be using much better.

[undone yarrow]

Coal generators are... Kinda crap, they're fine for when you get them but not great per resource

[reef basin]

wdym "per resource"?

[sharp sentinel]

#screenshots message

Later on I'll replicate this at this specific location, because it's practically meant for it I feel.

[summer egret]

guys rq how much coal does a coalgenertator burn

[reef basin]

build it, it will tell you

[summer egret]

im playing back after a big while and i forgot

[summer egret]

yeah but i wanna plan a little bit

[reef basin]

build one to check, then dismantle it and plan

[charred sentinel]

Whoa! I just noticed ||the Doggo on the conveyor belt in the background||! Is that new?

[lost wagon]

there is no round foundation that connects from one foundation to another in the corner? I only found the half one that doesn't do what I want

[summer egret]

the coal is every far from me😔 i dont have those legs unlocked yet so its a little hard for me to go and check

[reef basin]

you don't need coal. you need just coal generator

[summer egret]

wait fr?

[reef basin]

yes

[summer egret]

i tried i didnt see it tho

[reef basin]

the fuel slot - hover over it

[summer egret]

wait lemme check dont tell me my blind ass didnt see that

[formal prawn]

HOW DO YOU MAKE COALLESS COAL????

[reef basin]

what

[summer egret]

okay so this is confusing me, do coal generators need 45 or 50 water/min

cause

im sorry this heat is killing me

oh 45 a min okay sorry

[mortal ginkgo]

a coal gen asks for 45/min water 15/min coal

3 water extractors can feed 8 coal gens assuming there is no silly sloshing

[undone yarrow]

For reference the funny decinal of compacted coal is 1/7th

[undone yarrow]

2 generators are also exactly the same width as a water extractor, so underclocking one to 90 also works great for a little more space

[sharp sentinel]

Fuel generators are fun. Got my calculator out, trying to create the perfect setup on them.

[summer egret]

imagine not rawdogging everything

i got 360 coal to work with blehhh

24 gens woohoo

[charred sentinel]

What I typically do for my Coal Generators is line them up facing the water source, put three water pumps feeding into a manifold pipe with 8 junctions (each aligned with a water input and raised three "page ups", and then feed the water from the pumps into the two junctions on the end and on in the middle. That prevents most of the sloshing, and lets the water run down into the generator.

Then I run the coal conveyor under the water feed.

[summer egret]

and eventually i gotta dubble it cause tier 2 miners

[sharp sentinel]

Every single time I get into power generation I end up building a goofy little one that is entirely off-set from a maximised setup because I just can't stop myself. Both the coal generator setup I linked earlier, and now on my fuel generator setup I have a seventh one just sitting over in a corner by itself.

[mortal ginkgo]

real manly alpha players carry water manually to coal generators

just sayin'

[sharp sentinel]

It kind of pleases me in the imperfection though. Just this lone generator entirely off the grid from the rest.

I am not a man. I am an entity.

[charred sentinel]

That's not a bad idea - in case your factory has a massive failure, that standalone power can serve as the start of your recovery process. I keep the materials and solid biofuel on hand so that I can make nine biofuel burners specifically so that I can restart everything in case of a disaster. ]]

[undone yarrow]

Geothermal if properly wired is great for that

[eternal delta]

Wait this server has a tag

[sharp sentinel]

I actually just have a solid biofuel factory setup and feeding into my power-grid just so I can dump excess grass and stuff into it. I need to work on adjusting it though. It is off-centre from everything else in my world.

[sharp sentinel]

I'd decided to solely use geothermal to power the machines feeding into my other power sources. That way, I never have to see it mucking up my pretty straight line. :3

[undone yarrow]

Pretty much exactly like that yeah

[fathom shuttle]

So excited photonic matter is created out of thin air?

[zenith pecan]

And electric, yeah.

[fathom shuttle]

400MW right

[south sinew]

what happens if I research a hard drive and I have all the alt recipes available to me already unlocked? do I get ones from future tiers/etc?

[zenith pecan]

Biomass burners can do it!

[lethal ocean]

I've got a bunch of alts I cant decide on ughhh

[sharp sentinel]

Truly give yourself that experience of effort involved in making it. Remove the thin air part and be forced to use protein, leaves, and wood.

[undone yarrow]

It won't let you

[hollow rune]

hi is anyone able to help me?

So i really gotta know how many coal industrys a singel water extractor could reach and fully power

[lethal ocean]

I believe 3 can power 8

[south sinew]

assuming by industries you mean power generators

[hollow rune]

so 3 extractor power 8 coal thingys?

[undone yarrow]

3:8 or 1:2 underclocking as they're the same width

[hollow rune]

idk my english isnt great

[spice patio]

Check the machine UIs and calculate?

[hollow rune]

okay

[spice patio]

How much water does one water extractor produce?
How much water does one coal generator use?

per minute

[hollow rune]

?

[sharp sentinel]

It's good to get into the habit of checking the numbers yourself so that you can functionally look at a location and immediately map out in your mind's eye what you need to do in order to exploit it for maximum efficiency.

[undone yarrow]

That is correct

[fresh venture]

Hi guys and girls. I've been playing this game for a few years and i might be a bit slow but i have never been able to make an Aluminium factory that works the way it's supposed to. It' always seems to be an issue with the water. done all the math of course but it just never seems to add up. suggestions?

[reef basin]

don't mix fresh and recycled water

[spice patio]

Straight merge will not work if the water extractors have any water in their output buffers when the whole thing is started.
And is always finicky.

[lethal ocean]

If you dont want to deal with the nuances of reusing the byproduct water, use the wet concrete alt to dispose of the water

[reef basin]

*reuse the water but don't mix

[fresh venture]

don't mix pump water with by product water?

[reef basin]

yeah

[fresh venture]

not sure how that would add up. unless ii feed one refinery just from reuse water and use a power shard so the numbers add up

or just use a valve to limit the flow?

[reef basin]

no, that can break if any machine stops for a second

[lethal ocean]

Wet Concrete alt is your best friend

[fresh venture]

kk.

[reef basin]

that's a waste

[lethal ocean]

Wet Concrete?

You can never have too much concrete

[vestal mica]

two sets of refineries. one clocked to consume all the fresh water and one clocked to consume all the byproduct water

[solar aspen]

why is my drone red outlined?

[fresh venture]

i mean the waster water comes out at 120 and refinery needs 180 so that might cause issues?

[reef basin]

clock the refinery so it needs 120

[mortal ginkgo]

you can underclock the building. to be fair while sinking wet concrete is a "waste", its still a way to do it.

[fresh venture]

will try that thanks

[mortal ginkgo]

but yes, extra refinery just for waste water works

[pastel depot]

Hey! has anyone knows if the SAM node at 230,542/-33,617 was replaced? I am in 1.1.1 and that node is inside the terrain and the bug was closed for that

[undone yarrow]

Send the waste water to another companion facility such as pure copper or oil

[lethal ocean]

Is pure copper the better choice over wet concrete?

[reef basin]

you can't really compare those two, just pick what you need/want more
you can get all recipes anyway

[sharp sentinel]

Hm. Turned off all my fuel generators because I wanted to fix a few of them not getting adequate amounts of fuel and now my power won't stabilise once I had them back on and filled.

[undone yarrow]

Wet concrete is used because of it's high per minute

[vestal mica]

i think they mean for sinking, not which recipe is necessarily better in general

if need copper or concrete, do that one, if you're just sinking it, do concrete

[fluid sapphire]

Why just sink the concrete when you can slap uploaders on there too

[undone yarrow]

Uploaders are finite space

[reef basin]

why make the concrete when you can recycle the water

[fathom shuttle]

You can make other materials out of thin air too?

[fresh venture]

of course the other thing that halts the factory and messes it u p is when you have no place to put alumnium products......

[fluid sapphire]

Not a question of capacity but upload speed

[lethal ocean]

Why recycle the water when there is an egregiously high quantity available

[lethal ocean]

Smart splitter and an awesome sink

[reef basin]

because by "sinking" the water, you waste other resources

[mortal ginkgo]

wait, you guys don't know that water is finite? you dont see the water levels going down?

[fresh venture]

ok YES> this. i was sinking it but because of the speed it was draining the storage lol. smart splitter makes sense

[sharp sentinel]

Derp. I forgot the production of my plastic/rubber factory could potentially pause and lead to the generators attached to it shutting down.

[lethal ocean]

I love the new hypertube branches, I can make a particle accelerator in the span of 2 foundations now

[undone yarrow]

But yeah, my opinion on waste water recycling is always have the final machine in the chain go to a machine that doesn't output waste water

Using aluminum as the example: machine batch A runs off extractor water, Machine batch B runs off waste water and the final machine in batch B goes to like copper, oil or concrete

[primal haven]

share a screenshot?

[lethal ocean]

I've learned that when working with these things that produce multiple products, you want to have the one that could cause a backup able to be sank if its storage fills

[vestal mica]

you don't need that final machine thing if you don't want it and you just want a contained aluminum system

[undone yarrow]

You don't if you set the pipes up correctly true, but I like having the release valve

[sharp sentinel]

Yeah, luckily I have a sink on top I just need to route the byproduct into it and not just the excess product of the products made from the byproduct. Product product product.

[fresh venture]

you guys are pretty smart. i mean....compared to me.

[mortal ginkgo]

I wish people didn't downplay themselves like that...

[fresh venture]

my capacity for learning is 25% what it was.....

[mortal ginkgo]

Meh.

[vestal mica]

maybe I'm not picturing what you mean, but if you have a refinery group for aluminum that needs x waste water to run and you're providing x waste water, won't your release valve just siphon off water and prevent your aluminum from running at the rate you planned?

[fresh venture]

is there a splitter that will limit the throughput to items per minute?

[vestal mica]

there aren't overflow splitters with pipes right?

[fresh venture]

i guess just use a slower belt

[undone yarrow]

X waste water minus the final machine's waste water

[undone yarrow]

Using lower tier belts mostly or shenegians with splitters and mergers in a series

[vestal mica]

still not getting it. the original problem trying to be solved by splitting is making sure all waste water gets consumed and never gets blocked by the fresh water inputs somehow taking priority. Once it's split, why would putting some waste water into refineries and some into wet concrete be any better than just putting it all into refineries?

[undone yarrow]

Because pipes are evil mostly

At least in my experience, but I could also be dumb

[vestal mica]

if you have a "pipe problem" it will just as likely be there putting that water in to a wet concrete refinery

[primal haven]

cant you just make use of the height difference to prioritize pipes? #screenshots message

[sharp sentinel]

It's wild how thrilling I find making power plants versus other parts of the game.

[lime ermine]

I hate making power plants

But I'm currently making a fixonium power plant from scratch

[undone yarrow]

In theory yes

[fluid sapphire]

For what purpose

[lethal ocean]

Good luck, I did that on my last save and I still havent finished it lol. Such a crazy massive project

[lime ermine]

It's already been 10 hours in a separate safe planning and I'm almost done with plutonium 😭

[vestal mica]

making the fresh water go up and then merge back down into the waste water has always been enough for me.. but i maybe got lucky. some people say that doesn't work consistently. which is why just having two groups of refineries is a good solution that avoids any funky water priority magic

absolute worst case, you'll need 2 more refineries than you woudl have

merging it

[rare sail]

Hi all! New to this discord, but ive been playing since update 6 at least and almost at 1000 hours, but still have never managed to complete the game 😄 Now that 1.1 is out, im once again starting a new save, and thought that what the community considers the best starting place to be? I know eventually it does not matter, as you go all over the map for the different resources, but would be nice if at least most of the resources would be at a reasonable distance away! 😄

[lethal ocean]

Northern Forest is always a good start, there's a few spots there that have good proximity to a bunch of starting resources

[zenith pecan]

I usually start at the dunes, personal preference.

[vestal mica]

it's all preference. but if i was being forced to speed run, probably rocky desert.

there you go, 3 different answers

[lethal ocean]

Grassy Plains<<<<

[raven plank]

NOT grasslands 😓

[lethal ocean]

Time to redo my entire turbofuel setup lol

[raven plank]

grassy fields is good for super beginners, but once you get to oil in the mid game you have to travel quite a ways

[rare sail]

Yeah oil seems to always be kind of a bummer 😄

[fresh venture]

thanks all. Aluminium factory is gtg. now to spend the day finding mercer spheres

[vestal mica]

a lot of people like northern forest for all the pure nodes where you start, but I don't like ot have to tear down all my starter stuff and rebuild. i feel like those pure nodes are wasted. i'd rather go use them once i actually need that volume. Plus northern forest is cramped and a lot of cliffs if you don't enjoy building floating sky factories

[undone yarrow]

Like I said, I may just have the dumb for how pipe junctions work. But yeah, using the example of sloppy+electrode 1 water goes in .7 comes out for every bauxite (so 1200 in 840 out for pure mk6) beyond that brain is turning to mush...

I feel like there's a way to do 600 extractor, 600 waste recycled and any remaining sent off somewhere

[raven plank]

agreed i try to avoid pure nodes until i have better tech to take advantage

[reef basin]

honestly, up to you. Starting location is mostly for finishing first phase, then you start expanding all over the map anyway so starting location doesn't matter. And for phase 1 you only need iron, copper and limestone, which are plentiful in all starting locations

[lost wagon]

can you destroy those green poison shit

and I can't find the entrance of the cave or whatever to get these quartz vein

[undone yarrow]

Yes

[vestal mica]

there are multiple entrances, my hint is that no entrance is close to where the quartz shows on the map. it's a big cave.

[lost wagon]

you're talking about the one on north of the rocky desert spawn?

[vestal mica]

yeah

[lost wagon]

ok

[fresh venture]

is there a cheater map for locations of mercer spheres? i need like 50 more lol....and i'm goinfg in circles

[tropic plover]

So I went to the "doggo cave" picked up the helmet there but it's not in my inventory. Do I have to research it before it will appear?

[south sinew]

uh, what happens if you want an elevator with more than 25 floors?

[heady radish]

Just had my first death after 20 hours of playtime 😭 I ran out of food and was exploring, was on high terrain and slipped.

[south sinew]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map#3.5;-3351;92913|gameLayer|

[lethal ocean]

Try and use terrain as you fall, specifically slopes. They may not catch you sooner, but it does mess with the physics and can stop you from dying

[south sinew]

you also can't die from falling if you are at 100% health

[vestal mica]

it should just show in the customizer in the hub as a choice now, not in your inventory... i think

[vestal mica]

you can upload your save to it, and it will gray out all the ones you've already found. OR SO I'VE HEARD. I'd never cheat.

[south sinew]

it's so offensive that we might think you'd do such a thing

[lost wagon]

the entrances are way far apart lmao
probably will be easier and faster to just get the quartz from somewhere else

[edgy dawn]

Been doing co-op with a friend who got busy. So I've pretty much just doing cosmetic work, and general improvements until he gets on.

Got tired of waiting...I just built like 4 new machines to start grinding out the stuff to finish phase 3 lol.

[next umbra]

That’s how I feel. I find it difficult to stay motivated when my friends aren’t online and we can’t collaborate on how things should go than they come back and I’m already on phase 4 or something lol

[atomic notch]

i been playin this game again

[lethal ocean]

I need to take a break from factory-ing

[next umbra]

Time to move over to factorio 💀

The factory must grow

[bright magnet]

vanilla or modded?

[edgy dawn]

He said last time he got on it all felt different, because of how much new stuff there was. So...I built a new base. Improved my transport methods, etc. Basically halted the research lol. 100+ hours in, and I'm not done with phase 3.

[next umbra]

Me personally I almost never play these games with mods.

[bright magnet]

#screenshots message
is this a reported bug?

[bright magnet]

i finished recently Factorio with Krastorio 2 mod such a good mod like Space Exploration

[lost wagon]

Flashlight MAM research when, so I can craft the portable sun

[sour ledge]

... oh my god. i blueprinted all my rails, i got my rail network finally setup with a few stops ready but not connected to any of my factories yet

start getting it going and i realize... I didn't snap it to grid when I started, the entire thing is misaligned with all my factories...

[gentle jacinth]

can we get reanimated sam to be able to replicate everything in the game but you gotta research it first

[clear loom]

damn rip. same thing happened to me with the rails, best of luck 🥲

[gentle jacinth]

i hand built my rails without blueprints

[sour ledge]

i did that before connections were an option, but now that it works it's much easier to just spam blueprints

especially since i added my hypertube to the blueprint and made the rail sections look all nice...

[clear loom]

yeah, havent tried how it works with the blueprints and rails yet with the new update

[gentle jacinth]

i want a fluid sink

[clear loom]

made sure to build an elevator on day 1 though

just put it into the packager

and then in the sink

[sour ledge]

the links are super great. just make sure that when placing the blueprint you actually switch your build mode to auto-connect or it wont autoconnect and you'll be wondering why you keep slipping outta your hypertubes...

[clear loom]

alr thanks I'll keep that in mind when i build new rails

[sour ledge]

also this never came up for me until i was mass spamming the same blueprint so just in case: you can't normally use middle click to "sample" a blueprint again to spam it. BUT if you go into dismantle mode, then change to blueprint mode, and sample from there you can sample the whole blueprint with middle click

which saves ya from having to go into the menu to select your blueprint over and over

[mortal ginkgo]

there is already a fluid sink. it is called packaging

[gentle jacinth]

ph

oh

i might get more nuclear reactors

[south sinew]

what's the size of blueprint designer mk3? need to leave some space for the bigger sizes

[green fiber]

6 foundations x 6 foundations

height is 12 walls, roughly

[gentle jacinth]

i cant see my hands anymore

ts pmo icl

either im tweaking or parachute has a lot of bugs

[green fiber]

like?

flying up slanted walls is not a bug if you mean that

[gentle jacinth]

hands glitch and nobelisk get thrown downwards even when looking up, nobelisk start getting stuck on air and somehow something is infront of you

[south sinew]

cheers

[green fiber]

tbh i never tried using nobelisks while chuting

presumably they get thrown down because its kinda like... usually you wanna bomb the stuff beneath you

[gentle jacinth]

i throw them after

[fallen storm]

I want to know why would i use assembler to Craft autominers bc i got alt recipie and i have no clue what it may be used to craft

[green fiber]

Besides miners and a few Tier 7/8 logistics building: nothing else uses portable miners

its really just about not having to hand craft them anymore

[fallen storm]

So its mostly useless?

[green fiber]

if you are fine with always handcrafting them, yes

its about comfort mostly

[gentle jacinth]

now my cluster bombs dont cluster bomb

[fallen storm]

Im just clicking space and going to get food or something while they are crafting

[green fiber]

not everyone likes to handcraft them

[opal silo]

Guys how to give myself somersloop through console

[mortal ginkgo]

recipe is for people who want to automate that too so instead of getting food or something they just continue playing

[green fiber]

you dont use console, you use advanced game settings

[hard ivy]

use AGS instead

[undone yarrow]

Armadyl Godsword?

[opal silo]

how

[gentle jacinth]

now i cant build on foundations for some reason

[green fiber]

before you load save, click the button below it. "Save settings"

[gentle jacinth]

it puts it like 4 meters above

[hard ivy]

save game -> load -> load settings -> enable advanced game settings -> load previously saved file

[gentle jacinth]

8.7 meters off a foundation

[opal silo]

I can't find "load" in save game menu

[gentle jacinth]

are you ingame

like, actively in a save

[hard ivy]

after saving the game, go to the load menu

[gentle jacinth]

oh

[opal silo]

Oh I found it

Thanks

[jaunty kayak]

why does turbo fuel have to be such an uneven rate man

[hard ivy]

just use regular fuel instead. it's easier to make anyway

[jaunty kayak]

turbo fuel is so much powr tho

[hard ivy]

make more fuel then?

[jaunty kayak]

just hard to balance the input to burn ratio without clogging or running out

[hard ivy]

the only advantage of turbofuel is oil efficiency

otherwise regular fuel is just easier

[green fiber]

using the default recipe for it i assume?

[lost wagon]

this cave has a lot of slugs wtf

[hard ivy]

I also don't know why would you care about the output rate per machine lol

[leaden turret]

math

[autumn birch]

Hi wanna know have any news about satisfactory on ps5?

[heady radish]

HELP!! my death crate might be out of world 😭 It had so much good stuff

[hard ivy]

I just aim for a whole number of machines of output and everything else is just rounded up

[weary thistle]

"This year"

[leaden turret]

you'll be able to play with people on xbox but not on pc nor on dedicated server

[autumn birch]

It was not supposed to be released at the begining of this year?

[hard ivy]

it was originally supposed to be released together with 1.1, but got delayed a few months ago

[weary thistle]

umm... don't do whatever you did to die? Look around, I've seen the compass and the map have different spots

[hard ivy]

recently, they've confirmed it has not been delayed for a second time and still planned to release this year

[gentle jacinth]

took me a few minutes to realize my uranium cells werent being made being buffer was full

[autumn birch]

Sad news

[main mantle]

Any rog ally x users on here?

If so what is the best settings

[gentle jacinth]

wait did they already release that?

[main mantle]

The x from last year

[winter bloom]

Uranium vein is underground. It's on the first map coordinates 380, 910.

[south sinew]

ok, maybe this is a dumb question, but what do I do with my oil residue byproduct when I don't have fuel generators

I can make fuel with the residue but this seems, uh.. pointless

[hard ivy]

petroleum coke and burn in coal gens or sink

[sharp sentinel]

I have unwittingly made a sort of fanned out tiered fuel generator powerhouse ordeal...

[mortal ginkgo]

turn them into coke, use them in coal generators. they are not too much power but still a great choice before fuel gens

refineries cost some good power so coke makes up for that

[sharp sentinel]

#screenshots message

I continue to make a mess, and love it because it's a tidy ADHD mess.

[lost wagon]

someone clicked the free gift card scam

[mortal ginkgo]

it will be a good lesson to learn that random strangers don't give presents, both here and irl 😛

[lost wagon]

well, actually there was one dude giving nitro away couple days ago

[fathom shuttle]

Found this crazy spot with lots of purple slugs but died because of the fart rocks

[hard ivy]

the link was gone so fast that I couldn't click it if I tried

[lost wagon]

it's the 50$ gift thing

[steady glade]

you should walk around and blow them up one a a time

[lost wagon]

and the other copypaste it

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I ran out of bombs lol

[lost wagon]

lmao

[hard ivy]

oh, this time it stayed up for 30 seconds lol

[maiden jacinth]

im such a chronic restarter

[sharp sentinel]

I need more slugs. I can't overclock all these fuel generators without them...

Oh wait, forgot I threw a ton of slugs into the depot...

[maiden jacinth]

you have sloop overclocking already right

[hard ivy]

make sure to sloop them

[mortal ginkgo]

use somersloops to make overclock things

get double amount

[sharp sentinel]

You cannot sloop power, my lad.

[heady radish]

might seem cheaty but relocated the death crate out of bounds back to my base.

[sour ledge]

downside of using blueprints for rail: I forgot to make sure the first ones foundations were perfectly aligned to grid, so the whole thing was shifted a bit off and i had to scrap it all.

Upside: you can dismantle blueprints in one go so it was surprisingly easy to scrap everything and rebuild it.... except for the train stations, since i did those manually and they were fulla crap.

[mortal ginkgo]

you need to sloop the MAKE the overclock item

the constructor that you put slugs in

[sharp sentinel]

Ain't nobody got time for that. I just slug it up, right at the bench. It helps my doggos give me tons of red slugs.

[south sinew]

is it just me or is pet coke actually more energy than fuel to start with?

1 HOR makes 3 pet coke which is 540MJ, or 1 HOR makes 0.66 fuel which is 500MJ

[hard ivy]

you'd literally get double the shards if you slooped the slugs

[hard ivy]

1 HOR makes 2 fuel if you use diluted fuel

[mortal ginkgo]

time for what? all you do is put one somersloop to the constructor that makes slugs

[sharp sentinel]

The amount of excess effort just to build a factory that I have to return to just to put slugs in is something I genuinely do not care to apply. Bit baffling really being ganged up on by two people to tell me to do so.

[mortal ginkgo]

people are not ganging upon you lol

its not a factory as well. one storage -> one constructor -> one storage

[maiden jacinth]

I just build a constructor when I need power shards

[open pollen]

You know you can plop a constructor down and sloop it wherever right?

[mortal ginkgo]

Why people think "giving actual good advice" is ganking upon? What has internet come to?

[hard ivy]

you lose the first cycle after adding the sloop so a permanent constructor is better

[sharp sentinel]

It's because when told I didn't wish to do so, you doubled down on it.

[mortal ginkgo]

We just disagreed. Like, God damn. Fine, I take it all back.

Please make power things handcrafting.

[open pollen]

Wait really? Do you lose the first cycle if you change the recipe as well?

[maiden jacinth]

they likely check all of them

[mortal ginkgo]

I think they check it all but not respond to it all

[sharp sentinel]

Not going to elt myself regret the 150 power shards I've made this far in, never...

[gentle jacinth]

i think i might have to use a mod for my stupid nuclear reactor's water

[hard ivy]

no, only the first cycle after adding sloops isn't slopped. they stay in when changing recipes

[gentle jacinth]

because for some reason pipeline pumps just refuse to work

[mortal ginkgo]

For some reason you can't tell a building to use the somersloop for the first ever item it creates.

or powershards too

[sharp sentinel]

I found what looks like a limestone node, but isn't...

[gentle jacinth]

sulfur or something else

[hard ivy]

it's probably to prevent cheese, but shards work if you add them before starting the first craft, but sloops don't for some reason

[open pollen]

Atleast I tend to make my powershards in the same constructor that has been pre slopped so I haven’t made this mistake tooo many times I think lol

[sharp sentinel]

#screenshots message

No, literally just nothing.

[gentle jacinth]

or caterium

[sharp sentinel]

Oh. It's recessed into the ground.

If I step back from it the node registers.

[mortal ginkgo]

oh I see. Still though, maybe the building could just restart if someone tries to get sloop out in the middle?

[tough bough]

after what tech and items do you guys feel confident to fight anything nastier than a spitter/bee/charger?

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, there are many ways to prevent cheese but alas, I ain't gonna die for it

[south sinew]

that's why I said "to start with" ;p

[gentle jacinth]

nuclear nobelisk

[mortal ginkgo]

nastier, you mean the larger versions?

[open pollen]

Same

[tough bough]

yea anything that you wouldnt easily take on with the starting weapon

[open tree]

I absolutely despise the big spiders. And the hatchers.

[tough bough]

same, hence the questino!

[sharp sentinel]

I did that in my last save, and forgot to in this one.

[open pollen]

Spiders? What spiders?
Don’t you mean cats?

[harsh kayak]

My power production keeps fluctuating since i installed fuel power

[open tree]

Shatter rebar is a god send

[mortal ginkgo]

Explosive Rebar, Rifle.

[sharp sentinel]

I have like, one thing slooped in the entirety of this save. I've been hoarding my sloops and can't remember why.

[mortal ginkgo]

Stun Rebar is good too.

[leaden turret]

[open tree]

Rifle helps for sniping

Boombox?

[harsh kayak]

It stabilised

I should've just waited

[gentle jacinth]

got 3 nuclear reactors

[leaden turret]

[gentle jacinth]

anyways how do i tame lizard dog thing

[leaden turret]

berries

[open pollen]

My worst nightmare

[leaden turret]

🥽

for all those wanting satisfactory vr

[steady glade]

get some ficsonium in ur hand, crouch and aproach doggo

/s

[sharp sentinel]

I guess I should build a double down factory...

[steady glade]

its paleberry

get 1 in ur hand, and one on the ground

[open tree]

Did not know that.

[sharp sentinel]

I do apologise, I was just mad at myself and it made me act rashly and take the constructive criticism wrong.

[mortal ginkgo]

Thats a Character Progression if I see one. Congrats. ❤️

[open pollen]

The good thing is there’s a lot of slugs in the game so even if you don’t sloop it just means you gotta go hunting for more

[mortal ginkgo]

The thing is, purple slug would give you 10 powershards. Its still useful to sloop from now on even if you spent it on many slugs.

You said you wanted more powershards so. 😛

[sharp sentinel]

Nah, I'm just extremely aware of my own failings because they come with my ADHD and related psychosis. 😉

I will miss the extra 150 shards I could have had.

[mortal ginkgo]

Technically its not a loss because shards can be automated late game.

Just enjoy extra shards later on.

[sharp sentinel]

Lizard Doggos also dig them up.

And I have nine lizard doggos across the map so far.

[mortal ginkgo]

yup. I got plenty from one doggo

he is best doggo, ever.

[sharp sentinel]

Soon to be 10 if the one guy in Blue Crater stops running away...

[open tree]

Shatter rebar was my favorite way to dispose of them or rifle sniping from afar

[open tree]

I need to make a bigger pen for my lizard doggo and centralize them

[sharp sentinel]

My personal favourite way to do hatchers is throwing a gas nob at them and then just shooting them. It's overkill, but so satisfying.

[open tree]

Truth

Cluster nobelisks to clear the funky rocks blocking passageways are a god send. Now I can clear a ton of rocks with one nob.

[sharp sentinel]

I hit one of those really big wall ones with a pulse nobelisk and it was just so satisfying to watch.

[sharp sentinel]

Do sloops delay when swapping output item on a constructor, or does it count as just putting it in?

[hard ivy]

swapping recipes doesn't remove the sloops, so the 2x bonus stays

[open tree]

I haven't built a single pulse nob yet. Do they do damage or just "force push"

[steady glade]

yes

[sharp sentinel]

Alright, put a single slug constructor on a random floor of my hypertube nexus beside my HUB.

That way it's always easily accessible.

[loud vault]

we can craft the slugs?

[spiral dew]

finished adaptive control units, just have modular engines for phase 3 left #screenshots message

[sharp sentinel]

The shards from them can be slooped, so I'm doing that.