satisfactory

[steady dome]

Be aware however they will often slow down a bit before path signals if the block before the path signal is short

It won't affect much for the exit from the station since they are already driving slowly, but the other entrances might cause you to see this

A longer block will resolve this

[wicked estuary]

(Ill still probably end up going for elevated junctions to prevent any unnecessary intersections, but I still wanted to understand how this works xd)

[steady dome]

Of course. I use elevated for high capacity areas, but for lower capacity areas T junctions like this is perfectly adequate most of the time

[wicked estuary]

Cheers

[edgy mulch]

guys i have this bug when i left click, the game goes black and i cant do anything

[cyan garnet]

@wicked estuary I would put a blank platform at the end of your station for the other locomotive so that it doesn’t hang out in the intersection

Edit: nevermind looks like you already do 😬

[worn crescent]

so when is satisfactory 1.2

[zenith pecan]

Nobody knows, not even the devs right now 😛

[worn crescent]

thats a joke i dont expect anyone to know anything abt it LOL

yeah, way too early

[lusty pollen]

1.1.1 that fixes destroyable objects in multiplayer when

[zenith pecan]

1st of April next year.

[lusty pollen]

hope it gets fixed relatively quick

[thorn flint]

Was the Cyber Wagon removed?

[zenith pecan]

Not that I know, have you sunk the tickets to unlock it?

[thorn flint]

Yeah

[zenith pecan]

Hmm, I'll check when I get back in game, I have family over so I'm not playing yet.

[thorn flint]

alright

[lucid pagoda]

i assume my vr mod isnt working due to 1.1?

[rich kestrel]

@zenith pecan @worn crescent how many reinforced iron plating and rotors do i need for 50 smart plating? need to complete space elevator phase 1

[thorn flint]

Ill get u the answer in a sec

[heady radish]

Just got into satisfactory and have had so much fun so far. I havent explored that much at all. I'm mainly getting base up and going. Im in Tier2/Space Elevator Development running off of 3 solid biofuel burners. Any tips??

[thorn flint]

50 reinforced
plates and rotors for 50 smart plates

[white dawn]

Give a person a fish vs. teach a person to fish, etc.

[rich kestrel]

so 50 for both

[white dawn]

Figuring out what you'd need for 50 smart plates sounds like a useful exercise for the reader. :)

[thorn flint]

real

[thorn flint]

don't go in the caves

[stiff vector]

How do I make it so my world can hold 6 people instead of 4?

[leaden turret]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Multiplayer#Sessions_with_more_than_4_players

[stiff vector]

Thank you so much

[peak wasp]

I always get caught out by ADA reminding me that recreational use of belts is against FICSIT policy.

[stiff vector]

Does having over 4 people make any issues, obviously not including lag

[leaden turret]

hell is other people

[cobalt lodge]

I have some suggestions:

IsAmDead Effect
Stellar
Creation
Polar
Visionary

Idk if they are good, I tried making them blend in with the OST names

[stiff vector]

?

[leaden turret]

more people = more arguments 😛

[cobalt lodge]

True xD

[stiff vector]

ah ok, thank you so much!!

[cobalt lodge]

Humans are crap after all

[rich kestrel]

@leaden turret should i get bolted frame or fine concrete from the hard drive i just collected?

[leaden turret]

do you like screws?

[rich kestrel]

i have cast iron screws

i can split that off and make frames if i need to

[heady radish]

Quick question, when do you unlock the tool that lets you use powerlines as ziplines?

[leaden turret]

seems like that works for you then

[rich kestrel]

thanks!

cast iron screws are SO HELPFUL

[peak wasp]

In the caterium MAM tree.

Also, a better question is, do you have enough quartz for the concrete?

[lusty pollen]

that oasis in the desert is pretty

[worldly stump]

I am playing multiplayer with 2 friends and one of them got crashed, after he rejoined he lost all milestones while us still had it (he basically got all his milestones reset) then we tried to take a save before the crash and then I also lost the milestones while the other friend (the hoster) still had them. (sorry if I am using the wrong channel for asking questions I was just wondering if someone had the same issue)

[sacred lake]

don't know if it helps but with my friend (the host) the last milestone didn't take for me, but when i relogged it was there

[untold ember]

any downside to overclocking power generation? or just the shards

[hard ivy]

just the shard cost

[untold ember]

no loss in power gain as "punishment" ? sweet

[lusty pollen]

is underclocking linear in power drain ?

[untold ember]

resource cost yes, power cost no.

[hard ivy]

any power changes related to clock speed are linear in power generators and exponential in production machines

both up or down

[uncut verge]

not in vanilla but theres a mod for that

[minor vale]

Under clocking a production machine is linear not exponential

[hard ivy]

wrong

[minor vale]

Go test it

[hard ivy]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Advanced_clock_speed

[sharp zinc]

im gay

[untold ember]

a foundry is 16mw at 100%. its 6.4mw at 50%. thats not linear

[reef basin]

For like first two hours of game 🤔

[sharp sentinel]

My default factory colours are Barney colours, then I have the default pipes. It's a funny combo to see.

[shut lava]

Bite of 87 factory

[thick tusk]

looking at my base i feel like my biggest flaw is how to handle outputs.
like everything is disordered. the chain to make complex items is too big and uncoordinated. i think it's because i don't plan things and just build as i go adding what i need immediately

i also struggle with joining multiple outputs or distributing multiple inputs. like rn i'm setting up on two pure iron nodes and trying to manage the output of 6 smelters and then whatever amount of assemblers i need to make more reinforced plates and modular frames is making my head hurt.

[cerulean horizon]

did rocket fuel get rebalanced?

[broken thorn]

no?

I just finished a rocket fuel power plant that I started in 1.0 and finished in 1.1 and nothing changed if i recall

[cerulean horizon]

hmm I appear to have fucked up my math when building this

ohh right overclocking

fuel gens always take in the same amount of fuel no matter how much they're overlocked, right?

I built part of a power factory a while back and I completely forgot how the game works since then

[broken thorn]

no

if you overclock to 200% if will double the input

[cerulean horizon]

ah alright

ty

[broken thorn]

all good

[cerulean horizon]

so about 250 per line of 24 generators, with 10 lines

[hard ivy]

Remember that rocket fuel's default consumption is exactly 4.1(6) or 4 1/6 or 25/6

Not 4.167 like the generator might say

[cerulean horizon]

I put in a lot of 6s into the calculator I think that's sufficient

but yeah the planner also says 2500, now to actually build that

[mossy coral]

who else think smart splitters should use 2 smart plating, instead of 2 rotors and 2 reinforced iron plates

[broken thorn]

have you gone crazy

[jolly flax]

I unlocked early games cast screwes and now I got too many

Thankfully I ran out of solid biofuel

[thorny valley]

Can someone answer this? #screenshots message

[warped ridge]

about the resource scanner (pressing V): does it also show resouces in "blacK" ares of the map?

[sharp sentinel]

If I'm mining a pure coal node, and have a single water pump going to a single coal generator do I need to overclock the water pump in order to overclock the generator or can I just overclock it?

Then again I could just look at the numbers myself. I am a dork.

[magic ginkgo]

Where do I make a suggestion?

[ripe basin]

Who wants to start a new game with me

I need more experience

I still use 1 machine for everything

[mossy coral]

i play satisfactory what do you think?

[ripe basin]

I need someone to teach me the basics of bulk crafting

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @hard ivy

[hard ivy]

^

[magic ginkgo]

Not for the game but for DC.

[reef basin]

#1201555265942724758

[reef basin]

what would be the suggestion?

[magic ginkgo]

1. Slowmode 3 seconds.
2. Official content creator channel for creators to post content on and no not #streams-and-videos because it is only spam there, so maybe only 5k+ subs.

[ionic forge]

how do i build a water tower

[reef basin]

3 seconds is imposible, discord only allows 5s/10s etc
as for the content creator channel, I'm not sure how much it will be used, afaik most content creators don't really post here anyway

[hard ivy]

Just use pumps

[reef basin]

that's the neat part, you don't

[ionic forge]

my coal power plants arent getting enough water, i have 3 but my water pump isnt pumping enough water

or i should say water isnt getting to them fast enough

[magic ginkgo]

0 sec - 6 hours is possible, you only need a bot to do it, users can not choose 3 seconds but bots can change it to any time between 0 and 6 hours.

[reef basin]

pumps only provide headlift, not flow. if it's not flowing at all, it may be faulty connection. If you go uphill, you need pumps (if still not working, make a #1038092680493801533 thread for it)

[magic ginkgo]

Post*

[reef basin]

?

[magic ginkgo]

It is not a thread it is a post.

[reef basin]

it's the same as thread lol

[magic ginkgo]

Yea kinda

[magic ginkgo]

.

[reef basin]

I wonder though what would be the difference between 3 and 5 seconds. imo if you're writing that fast, it could be one message anyway

[lost wagon]

Yes, but what if your brain is 3s slower than your hands

[magic ginkgo]

It is just better for mobile users, you could also do this: low messages = 3 sec, high messages = 5 sec.

[lost wagon]

That's not how discord functions

[reef basin]

especially on mobile you can't really write that fast lol

[open pollen]

How exactly is it better for mobile users? (Honestly curious)

[lost wagon]

Maybe with a bot you could try to achieve something like that

[magic ginkgo]

You can... I have.

[magic ginkgo]

Out of experience mobile users send more small messages.

[reef basin]

and that's exactly what the slowmode is trying to avoid 🙂

[pastel ginkgo]

my friend and I had the thought to ride the HUB spaceship to the top. then we did at the top of the sky box and now all of our inventory is stuck on a permanent deathcrate insanely up high in the sky. what can we do? that sucks. would expect that to be patched after 1.0

[open pollen]

So having the slow mode be 5 seconds then encourages longer messages instead? So it works for stopping small messages from mobile users?

[reef basin]

(at game release and around major updates, we had to have 10-15s slowmode just to prevent the insane spam we had here)

[shut lava]

Does

[magic ginkgo]

Just do this then...

[shut lava]

It

[reef basin]

what is "low message"

[magic ginkgo]

1 - 10 messages per minute = 3 seconds slowmode.
10+ messages per minute = 5 seconds slowmode.

Or someting like that.

[open pollen]

If anything this shows how the slow mode being 5 seconds matters little lol

[minor vale]

....or you could stop over complicating a messaging system and just learn to type slower or in larger messages.

[reef basin]

I mean the whole point of the slowmode is to make people write longer messages and less of them 🙂

[shut lava]

I

[magic ginkgo]

Guys it was JUST a suggestion...

[shut lava]

Have

[shut lava]

Patience

[open pollen]

There’s nothing wrong with people debating the suggestion

[magic ginkgo]

IK

[minor vale]

does any one know of any crash sites with computers in/near the grasslands?

[shut lava]

Odly specific

[minor vale]

correct
I need computers so I can the depot from my inventory. and I don't feel like moving onto phase 3 yet so I have to find them.

[shut lava]

Ah I thought you were talking about irl

Thought you were gonna loot parts to upgrade your pc

[minor vale]

I mean that woudln't be bad either. My GPU is ancient and I'm in desperate need of a harddrive upgrade.

[primal haven]

id say look around the middlish of the map for higher tier items

its hard to generalize

I know i found some south of the rocky desert spawn

[cyan garnet]

How much water does an extractor produce? How much does each generator consume? How much can a single pipe move?

[primal haven]

to be fair it is a bit confusing at first on how to fit 360 water in a 300 limited pipe

[cyan garnet]

Yes but I don’t think that’s their problem based on what they wrote

Trying to teach how to fish, so to speak

[minor vale]

You do the same way you do belts
by using 2 pipes.
it really doesn't seem that c onfusing.

[molten lion]

thats a thing? I tho there was no way around it and I just needed to get pipeline mk3

[cyan garnet]

You’d be surprised how often it gets asked here

[minor vale]

pipes should be confusing for things like headlift
That I Get but.. the 300 flow limit?
Too many people get confused by that.

[reef basin]

would it be confusing if it was belts?

[molten lion]

dont u need extra extractors for that?

maths just doesnt add up

[cyan garnet]

Three extractors makes 360 water (120 each), which is how much 8 generators consumes (45 each)

[molten lion]

but mk2 only takes 300

[tropic plover]

So, I have 3 coal power plants next to one another, all have full water supply and full coal supply but 1 of the 3 keeps blowing its fuse. Why might that be?
Should I have 1 power pole that all 3 connect to and then go out from there because at the moment they all connect to one another and then out from the one to the grid

[cyan garnet]

Mk1 pipe does 300/min, which is why you can’t hook all 8 generators up with a single pipe

[cyan garnet]

You want all the generators on one grid. If you connect one grid to another that’s already blown, it will trip the fuse on the other so you will have to reset the breaker for the whole thing

[molten lion]

exactly, u can only run 6 no? but then it only requires 270 and u are left with 30 which u cant do much about im assuming. sorry kinda new and trynna understand what ppl usually do

[cyan garnet]

!wikisearch cg

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[cyan garnet]

You run two pipes, that’s the point that was being made

[minor vale]

the question was fitting 360 water per minute through pipes.
you just use 2 pipes and split your water collection between them.

[cyan garnet]

This trips a lot of players up, based on how often it’s asked here

IMHO properly figuring out coal power is the first “boss” of the game

[maiden jacinth]

I ran 8 gens with 1 pipe and 3 extracters

[minor vale]

then either you had those gens spread out along hte line or you weren't running at 100%

[maiden jacinth]

I did have them spread out yea

you just have to like have the extractors on the other side of the pipe and not at the end

[molten lion]

but by splitting that means ill be short in some of the gens no? how could I split it?

[maiden jacinth]

just do it like this
generators
pipe
extractors

[minor vale]

by re merging it later down the line once some water is used up by gens.

just like you would belts.

[maiden jacinth]

the pipe cant carry 360
but you dont need it to

[vagrant oar]

I just make 4 water extractors spread into two pipelines each feeding 4 generwtors

[molten lion]

I dont have mk2 yet, only mk1
mine only carry up to 300
which I didnt notice after spending 2 hours trynna throubleshoot it yesterday xD

[slate magnet]

Trains can carry 360, just let trains carry your liquids

[maiden jacinth]

yea im saying that you can use one pipe still

[cyan garnet]

The trick is that no single segment of pipe is carrying more than 300. Reference the diagrams from above

The placements of the extractors along the pipe determine how much water each segment will take

[molten lion]

I see
maybe cuz mine I have them in different floors that makes a difference cuz then it all comes along only one pipe

[cyan garnet]

Yes, that is your problem

Reference the schematics in the wiki link above. There are several ways to make it work

[maiden jacinth]

if you wanna do a two floor kinda thing
youre gonna need two pipes

[cyan garnet]

Like I said, first boss of the game

[molten lion]

it takes much more space tho...I think its more worth for me to just grind the mk2 right as I am pretty close to get it anyways

[maiden jacinth]

id suggest doing 2 extractors to 4 generators to make it look cleaner if youre going for that

just do it all on one floor then

[cyan garnet]

Not really. You can stack pipes pretty easily

[molten lion]

I wil have to lift it thru 2 different points then right?

[cyan garnet]

depends on your build. Make a thread in #1038092680493801533 with screenshots of your build if you really want help with it

[molten lion]

will do later....it does look ugly tho so bear with me

[red linden]

I started playing today and am at tier 2 while still having to deliver first elements to space elevator... I assume it is going to get much more complicated?

[molten lion]

its 2x3 Water extractors at the bottom floor with each side taking it thru a pipeline upstairs and dividing it to 2x8 gens

[open pollen]

Oh it definitely will

[molten lion]

I then noticed it wasnt enought water for all of them as the pipeline limited the amount of water so I scaled down to only 6 in each side instead of 8

[red linden]

I presume I will outgrow my initial build quickly lol

[open pollen]

Just remember that you don’t necessarily have to demo and rebuild. You can always build new things/factories someplace else

[red linden]

Oh yeah, I kinda want to retain my first build for historical reasons sort of

[maiden jacinth]

you can legit just abandon your build and go to one of the starting areas if you feel like it

[cyan garnet]

The map is huge. Explore and expand

[cyan garnet]

Yeah so you’d need four pipes total to make this work, two for each floor

[open pollen]

I did the same the first time I played. My ugly stain on the landscape in the grasslands while I had pretty buildings in the desert 😆

[red linden]

I did start in the rocky desert after finishing tutorial. I found the grasslands to be very constraining, desert gives a lot of flat ground more or less

[ember marten]

#streams-and-videos message
Why isnt it snapping to world grid?

its not supposed to go up/down 1m

it does that all over the cave

[open pollen]

Doesn’t the height of the snap always follow the terrain a bit? It has for me at least. All else fails use different sized foundations to get different heights or extend a foundation that is at the preferred height

[ember marten]

I was following a guide and it said 2m foundations always snap to the same grid all over the world

[open pollen]

They snap to the same N/S/E/W grid, not vertical grid

[ember marten]

Damn

Not that it matters tbh its inside a cave lol

[open pollen]

Still super useful for aligning things over a distance tbh

[ember marten]

Yes thats what i do

1m feels janky

and 4m too when near 2m

[open pollen]

You can always mix and match

[cyan garnet]

Are you holding CTRL to snap world grid?

It’s freeform by default

[ember marten]

Yes

[open pollen]

They were in their video, but the foundations kept bumping up and down on the grid when they moved lower/up on the ground

[minor vale]

The world grid is also vertically snapping.

in incriments of 1 meter

[maiden jacinth]

2 meter actually I think

[open pollen]

Crap yeah I phrased that wrong then

[maiden jacinth]

trying to plan out a big project is getting annoying

[hard ivy]

pretty sure it's 1

[open pollen]

Just so you see @ember marten , I was incorrect

[ember marten]

You can see from my video

that it's 1

[tropic plover]

Am a tad confused.
2 coal power plants on the same grid produce a max of 250Mw.
But 3 on the same grid only produce 225?

[torpid trellis]

coal plants at 100% clock speed make 75 MW, if you have 2 producing 250MW then they are overclocked and the 3 producing 225 are at normal speed

[minor vale]

that probably means your coal plants aren't running at 100%

[fathom shuttle]

So adaptive control units can be sunk for 100k points, that’s a lot

The recipe isn’t really expensive once I automate the computers and heavy modular frames, and a full industrial container can hold 2.4k, or almost 200m points

I’ll do it just for the lols lmao

I have a lot of automated wiring that I need to get rid of anyway

[lost wagon]

aside from power usage, is there any other "penalty" for overclocking?

[minor vale]

Well my failed search to find computers at crash sites has at least yielded Solid steel ingot alt from the hard drives so I got that going for me.

[minor vale]

just power.

[hard ivy]

and the shard cost

[ionic forge]

hmm

[terse lichen]

what if instead of satisfactory it was just alright? and we built alrights instead of satisfactory? but then we might fail. that would be bad.

[fathom shuttle]

Power shards

[ionic forge]

what do i do with the power capsules i get from slugs

[fathom shuttle]

You can put them into buildings to overclock them, so they output more stuff

Mk3 power connectors need high speed connectors, I haven’t automated them. Big problem for me

[maiden jacinth]

just power and shard cost yea
theres actually 0 pentalty to overclocking power buildings

so do that as long as you can feed them properly

[tiny ermine]

I hope with all my life that removing infinite splines will not break my entire game

[maiden jacinth]

splines?

[tiny ermine]

Basically just allows infinite length conveyers, pipe, railways, etc

[elder apex]

it will not, all the existing belts/pipes/wire will stay

[tiny ermine]

Oh thank goodness

[elder apex]

all infinite splines does is remove the game limits, the handling of the splines is still built in

[tiny ermine]

Do you know of any other mod that does the same but works on 1.1?

[fathom shuttle]

I’m praying that all my calculations for my refinery set up are correct because I’ll go insane if I need to rebuild 100+ refineries

[elder apex]

you could try Construction Preferences, it allows you to make them longer but not infinite

[fathom shuttle]

After that I’ll need to start worrying about the fuel allocation, 8 refineries into 24 fuel generators

[rich kestrel]

@elder apex @fathom shuttle should i get bolted iron plates or copper rotors

[tiny ermine]

Hmmm, I'll def check it out

[fathom shuttle]

Rescan

[rich kestrel]

i need a lot of reinforced iron plates

should i really rescan

[gray sedge]

The Pipeline Support ist buggy, when you tilt it. It than snaps into the pillar and not into the pipe segment.

[fathom shuttle]

Do you have a lot of screws?

[rich kestrel]

YES

[fathom shuttle]

How many

[rich kestrel]

i have cast iron screws

[fathom shuttle]

Oh well then bolted iron plates

[rich kestrel]

also i have it overclocked

[fathom shuttle]

Set up a 30/min reinforced iron plate factory and forget about it

At least until mid-mid game

[hard ivy]

stitched + iron wire is much better than bolted + cast screw

[wispy tinsel]

the game really doesn't like one big factory

[smoky reef]

Yeah the game starts crazy lagging for me starting round phase 3

[maiden jacinth]

do you have steel yet

[wispy tinsel]

i am on phase 4 and destroyed all my buildings to prep for the final push and covered the dessert in a concert slab #screenshots message

[fathom shuttle]

Can a fuel generator fit in a mk1 blueprint designer?

[wispy tinsel]

yes

[fathom shuttle]

Connections included?

[rich kestrel]

no not yet getting to coal now

[maiden jacinth]

id just unlock steel and then rescan that drive

the rip alt without screws is so nice

or wait no
it doesnt need steel

im thinking of something else

my favorite rip alt is the one that uses plates and wire

stitched iron plate

[fathom shuttle]

All refineries are done, I just need to build the water extractors, start connecting things and that should be it. After that comes the fuel generator set up.. will be quite daunting since it will be 160

[hard ivy]

you can fit 4 in a mk2 so I assume 1 in a mk1 will fit easily

[wispy tinsel]

you got this

[fathom shuttle]

I’m gonna be double stacking them for compactness probably, but I need to check if it’s gonna be taller than my train station or not

I don’t really have a space budget since I have the entire lake for me, but it would be nice to have extra space for the massive battery bank I plan to build

500 batteries for 50GWh of storage lol

[wispy tinsel]

i turned the half of the left side of my map into a battery bank they have saved me multiple times

[fathom shuttle]

I have a 700MWh and it sure helps, not having a shut down every time demand momentarily exceeds supply is huge

[broken thorn]

@west maple #screenshots message why would you plan to do a factory that needs mk3 miners and mk6 belts to be efficient when you're at PHASE 1 😭

I'm at phase 3 and not even I make factories that are planned to use mk6 belts

[fathom shuttle]

I’m planning for mk5 belts max at phase 3 lol

[wispy tinsel]

it has been frustrating to do but i am doing the same thing just using mk5 belts i am 90 hours in and just got to mk5 belts

[fathom shuttle]

Mk6 belts mean a 3rd factory for me

[west maple]

I'm 2,000 hours in. I crave new projects. This is my 7th start.

Plus when I realized the conveyor wall looked like an excel sheet after color coding I knew I had to commit to the bit.

[barren lily]

You guys quick question. Im I sick cuz im buliding rafinery that produces 200 plastic 300 rubber and 3840 turbofuel (512 fuel gens turns that into 128000mw) on 40h save?

[fathom shuttle]

I’m doing something similar lol, diluted packaged fuel for 40GW

[barren lily]

Yeah but look, 40h save and this power plant will produce 128GW

[fathom shuttle]

And 800 polymer resin that I’ll sink for now, I’ll set the plastic and rubber production layer

[undone crow]

So I apparently have over 2k hours in this game and still 5 achievements that I haven't unlocked since 1.0 + 3 they are all super easy too... just two are time consuming. Golden nut and beat the game.

I started a new save to get these last five achievements... then this will be the only game I will have "100%"

[barren lily]

Mine produces 1200 polimer resin

I need to build a base

But accual base, rn im still using first open factory as my base but it's not enough anymore

[rich kestrel]

i love the cast iron screws they're so good

[worldly stump]

when do I get glass walls and stuff for building?

[maiden jacinth]

when you find quartz

and unlock them in the awesome shop

[barren lily]

Quartz research and then Awesome shop

[worldly stump]

thank u

[fathom shuttle]

What do I need for the golden nut?

[barren lily]

100 tickets i think but i could be wrong

[fathom shuttle]

Nahhh

It’s 1000 tickets

[hard ivy]

you're off by a zero

[fathom shuttle]

How many points do i need for 1000 tickets?

[barren lily]

Allat

[hard ivy]

it's on the wiki somewhere

[fathom shuttle]

Guess my decision to make adaptive control units for sinking wasn’t that crazy after all lol

[barren lily]

Nuclear pasta is a good source of points but it costs allat

[hard ivy]

considering a ballistic warp drive is worth 38 times more, it might not be as good of an idea as you think

[barren lily]

Meanwhile me still burning trash and things like quartz crystals

I already own everything that i can own from awesome shop and still have 78 tickets left

[unkempt blade]

you probably need more boomboxes, the audio range isn't very far

[barren lily]

Good point

[wispy tinsel]

i just sink my plutonium fuel rods

[fathom shuttle]

I’m not there yet unfortunately

[west maple]

I got mine sinking the end game space elevator parts while trying to Max out ionized fuel.

[barren lily]

I've checked what i need to do and im tweaking, I need to build base, rafinery, global train line, computer factory, heavy modular frame factory, power plant with enough space for 512 fuel gens and finaly destroy or shut down small factories producing things like 10 Rotors or 20 modular frames🫥

[wispy tinsel]

if you just keep sinking parts as you go you will get all the tickets you need

[wispy tinsel]

what till you get to the final phase 😉

[desert arch]

Has anyone tried if the watertower concept still works in 1.1? Somehow my blueprint doesn't work anymore 😦

[wispy tinsel]

it works some of the time but is a bit buggy

[barren lily]

I havent but it should be working

[cyan garnet]

Water towers still work but are pointless

[barren lily]

I know but well this moment is painfull cuz i went from small open factories stright into 50 engines per minute and I had no time to even build working base

[barren lily]

Sometimes they are usefull but using pump is easier

[desert arch]

I used a water tower with 3 pumps to elevate 20 pipes in my last save, so wasn't pointless for me :p

[wispy tinsel]

i am on my 2nd run since 1.0 the first one was everything had its own factory but they where mosly just slabs. I am currently working on 1 mega base and have to plan for the last elevator parts now in phase 4

[barren lily]

Im in phase 3 and after i finish rafinery (maybe while building it) im gonna build something similar, mega factory with central storage + just my new base

But i want to produce only basic parts there

[cyan garnet]

Reminder that central storage is not necessary with dimensional depots

[barren lily]

I know but I still preffer to have some ,,spare" parts

[cyan garnet]

Sure, just making sure you were aware that DDs exist and are highly worth researching as early as possible

[barren lily]

I had researched them realy fast, I was still in second phase when i finished all upgrades

[burnt ferry]

how can i get a superpositi8on oscilllator? apparently this is from ficsmas. which i thoguth i had disabled but now i found a wreckage asking for such to open the hdd cache

[hard ivy]

craft it

[elder apex]

superposition oscillator is from tier 9/phase 5

[barren lily]

You can produce them or find somewhere

[burnt ferry]

? the wiki sasy you cant craft it oO

ok then i put a marker on the map

[hard ivy]

then you're using the wiki that hasn't been updated in years

[somber quartz]

OMG

[reef basin]

does it? https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Superposition_Oscillator

[lime ermine]

Tier 9 unlock

[somber quartz]

I JUST DELETED MY WORLD ON ACCIDENT

PLEASE TELL ME I CAN RECOVER IT

is there any way to get my world back

no fkin way

[hard ivy]

hope you have cloud saves enabled

[somber quartz]

how do i see that

[lost wagon]

this whole overclocking/underclocking to make the last machine in the line craft just the right amount makes my head spin

[burnt ferry]

indeede

[barren lily]

Look in files or in trash can

[somber quartz]

how do i see that

[hard ivy]

depends where you bought it

[somber quartz]

trash can is empty, how do i find the world in files

[barren lily]

Windows+ r and type %appdata% then look for folder named Factory game

[burnt ferry]

im at 2150,30 does anybody know whether one of the close by crash sites has this super soscillator laying around? 😂

[barren lily]

No idea

[somber quartz]

theres nothing called factory game in there

[hard ivy]

I'm pretty sure they can't be found

[barren lily]

If not check %localappdata% or documents

[somber quartz]

oh nvm i found it

[hard ivy]

it's localappdata

[somber quartz]

yeah i found it

which folder is it?

[barren lily]

Saved i guess

[hard ivy]

it's in the #faq

[broken thorn]

%LocalAppData%\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames

[somber quartz]

i found it in the savegames_backup folder

what am i supposed to do with it

drag it into the normal save folder?

[broken thorn]

I need to make a new backup, my last one was 80 hours ago in this save before I started 1.1 experimental

[hard ivy]

copy, don't drag

but yes

[fathom shuttle]

Need pipes experts help urgently in #math-and-meta

[somber quartz]

okay ill try

it doesnt pop up

i find one save

but its 6 min into the world

FFS

[hard ivy]

did you take the newest backup?

and a backup of the save you lost and not some other one?

[somber quartz]

theres isnt one from today

its like random saves that are in that backup save folder

not all the saves

[hard ivy]

cloud save it is then

where did you buy the game?

[somber quartz]

from steam

what is clous

[hard ivy]

*cloud

https://store.steampowered.com/account/remotestorage

[warped ridge]

there used to be these stairs pieces, with which you could build a staircase in a one-foundation area. were they taken out?

[hard ivy]

this is where you can find and download all steam cloud files

[somber quartz]

oh my god

thank u

it worked

thank u so much omfg

i owe u big fucking time

ur a fkin lifesaver

@hard ivy thank u <333 owe u big time

[steady glade]

did coffee stain ever explain why we cant have separated power grids in the switches?

i need to disconnect it to see how much a section of the grid consumes

[cyan garnet]

What don’t you get? If your production plan needs 350% total clocking, you can divide that up however you want so that it adds up to 350. So 3 machines at 100 and one at 50, or 7 machines at 50, or any other combination you like

[leaden vector]

Hey anyone wanna be freinds and play satisfactory with me? Oh it would be multi player and I also dont know how to do multiplayer or dedicated servers. 🙂

[green fiber]

At the end of the day, the percentages in your machines just have to add up to what the planner says

[hard ivy]

#1201555265942724758

[leaden vector]

o thx

[hard ivy]

or more. that's usually fine too

[lost wagon]

what planner tho? The tools one?

[hard ivy]

whichever one you're using

[green fiber]

Any planner. They all give you a similar answer usually

[lost wagon]

modeler is all manual, so it doesn't really give you the %, just say your're using 5.7 of machines

[green fiber]

One might say "3.6 machines" the other says "360%"

Its the same thing

5.7 machines doing x recipe is the same as 570%

[lost wagon]

so either I get that 5 machines and divide the extra 70% between them, of put a 6th one at 70%

[green fiber]

However you want as long as you get 570% in total in the end

[steady glade]

generally underclocking is better than overclocking since space is the last thing you lack in the game, and you can save a power shard which is a limited resource ||until it's not||
you wanna underclock machines when they lack resources to run at full speed because they have a startup lag of a second or more, so they will stall if they lack items

[hard ivy]

you can do literally whatever you want as long as they add up to 570% (or more)

[green fiber]

If it adds up to more it means you are over producing and not everyone might want that

[hard ivy]

yes, but it'll give you what you want

and if it's bottlenecked further up, it will give you exactly what you want and not more

and you don't have to bother with clocking

one bottleneck at the end of production and everything gets throttled accordingly even if the clocks are more than they need to be

[steady glade]

if you're not tight on resources or timing with one machine depending on some other machine, it's not really an issue to overproduce, the backup will last long enough for the machine to restart production

for example ||more advanced oil products or aluminum prodiction chains will require a well running setup to avoid the whole thing just stopping at some point|| but most basic item only products (with mostly no byproduct) wont be much of an issue to whip up without much thought

[sharp sentinel]

Tempted to see if there's still a weirdly placed uranium deposit underneath Grassy Plains, but also don't want to die.... Hrm...

Turns out I'd already been down there, and it isn't. That makes me happy./

[hard ivy]

it would've been extra uranium tho

oh, a deposit

[sharp sentinel]

It wasn't a node. Just a deposit, and all it amounted to was basically killing you early game.

[vocal tide]

Hello, do you know when the next update to fix the crashes in the current version will be released ?
I never crashed before, even in experimental, but the CL#416835 started to crashes a lot

[zenith pecan]

Aren't the devs on break at the moment?

[granite dove]

You may want to post this in #1038092680493801533

youre more likely to find assistance with issues like these

my friend has also experienced random crashes but they are infrequent, only once or twice per session at most

[vocal tide]

But it's the latest version specifiquely that crashes

The versions before this one has never crashed

[bronze cobalt]

hello

[granite dove]

if/when you make a post in questions and help you can put the crash log and someone smarter than me might read it and help

[sharp sentinel]

Huh. My dear sweet lizard doggo brought me a single Nuke Obelisk. Who wronged you, my sweet? I'll nuke them.

[true mulch]

@south nova hey did you manage to send the form?

[lucid pagoda]

will 1620 plastic and 1620 rubber per min be enough till i get to the final space elevator stage?

[fathom shuttle]

If anyone ever needs help with piping lmk, #screenshots

[wispy tinsel]

it should be

depending on the resipies

[woeful gate]

How do I fix this display issue in the recipe menu in #screenshots

The cost is cut off and it looks icky

[wispy tinsel]

i am only using 1200 ruber for the final phase

[lucid pagoda]

alright, ty, just checkin

[knotty robin]

Since when did they remove the world grid?

[wispy tinsel]

they didnt

[knotty robin]

How do u use it then?

[wispy tinsel]

hold control with a foundation and look at the ground

[ebon kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-fbi-eating-chips-this-is-interesting-gif-17852480

[knotty robin]

Thx

[fathom shuttle]

Mid game and I’m planning to do 200/min plastic and 100/min rubber (as a way to process byproduct of energy production) , so it should be a while until I need to build anything to produce plastic

I guess the main thing I’ll need a lot of is plastic because of how items like circuit boards need lots of it, also building

[wispy tinsel]

i do the same that way i can make a little extra power till i start nuclear

[fathom shuttle]

How much power do I need to get clean nuclear power?

[ebon kelp]

you have the native resolution of the monitor, that is, if your monitor is 2k and you have 1920x1080, then you need to set 2k

[ebon kelp]

a lot

[burnt ferry]

#screenshots sloping both the alien remains -> protein and protein -> dna productions was worth it

[fathom shuttle]

1 animal remains -> 4 dna capsules

[burnt ferry]

yep

[fathom shuttle]

Kinda broken, I’m starting to gather as much remains as possible just so I can sink it all at once for loads of points

[burnt ferry]

dna doesnt scale expoentially

its always worth getting some tickets from it, dont have to wait for a bunch

[woeful gate]

Thats not it. I mean it all fits on the screen, its just in the recipe menu. Theres no option to scroll down so its just cut off. Its not cut off from the screen resolution, its just in the craft menu

[burnt ferry]

okay lets see how mucht tickets i get from these 650 dna samples

[fathom shuttle]

Reddit says I would need 42k (slipped) dna capsules for golden nut lol

[woeful gate]

I figured it out! Its the HUD scaling (experimental). I turned it up cause my eyes are bad. But I guess it cuts certain stuff out with no way to scroll or recover

[ebon kelp]

[fathom shuttle]

UI is kinda bad in this game, it doesn’t scale to monitor resolution

So on a narrower than 16:9 display parts of the UI cut off

[main spire]

built a copper foundry in a experiment save i use for testing stuff and just building in general

(foundries are huge structures held by 4 pillars, they specialize in a single resource, for example copper and build every constructor and smelter recipe for said resource (ex: copper ore > copper ingot > copper sheet, wire)

[burnt ferry]

i have my tooltip scaling (which is the only ui scaling i could find) set to 1.5 and theres nothing cut off for me

and for mmy resolution which is 2560x1080 the ui scales fine

there is even an option that improves the field of sight for widescreen reslutions, which i found today and nudges the tool/weapon into shape and reduces skewing at the edges

oh damn.. found the hud scaling.. lemme test

[fathom shuttle]

I’m on 4:3 and it doesn’t show the sides, I’ll guess I’ll try the ui scaling

[burnt ferry]

looks fine

#screenshots

nice... glad that i found this.. im also team mole eye\

damn gaming guis with lots of text on bad contrast backgrounds, tiny fonts and what not

🤔 i could see how the ui wouldnt fit into a 16:9 resolution though, tbh...

ah.... i remember now.. that was an issue in update 5 already.. some dialogs have cut off their ok/cancel buttons now

anyway.. 650 dna -> 26 tickets... pretty disappointing

[zenith pecan]

4:3, how old is the display?

[burnt ferry]

also its green on black monochromatic

[main spire]

which foundry do i do next? iron or caterium?

[fathom shuttle]

Released in 2024

You’ll never guess

[tropic terrace]

hey, does anyone know how to rotate the hypertube branch along the pipes axis?

rotating for me just rotates it along the branches middle axis

[cursive crane]

Unfortunately

Not

[tropic terrace]

lmfao

how do you make a launcher then?

a guy on a yt channel did it, was it modded?

[cursive crane]

Dont need a branch for a launcher

Also it just has to face a certain direction.
You just hook it into itself and have the branch part hooked up elsewhere

[tropic terrace]

also im glad you messaged

[fathom shuttle]

Damn bro Iran and Israel about to nuke each other

Emergency evacuations in Tehran that’s crazy

[timber shoal]

is there a way to make trains depart when they aren't full?

[fathom shuttle]

Just let them go, you’ll be clogging up the station this way

[cursive crane]

You can set a timer. Set them to "or"

[inland fern]

anybody else had any issues with multiplayer since 1.1 came out?

[tropic plover]

Finally have gotten myself off of Biomass burners and fully onto coal, just in time as I get close to finishing Stage 2

[lunar scaffold]

I remember those days...

[zenith pecan]

Good milestone to reach, it makes the game somewhat less frantic thanks to power being fully automated for the first time.

[tropic plover]

Although I find that Biomass burners are needed to start the water pumps before switching them over to coal when building in a new location

[tropic plover]

Yeah, I dont have to run around trying to find which burner ran out in my mess of buildings

[zenith pecan]

Leave the old burners in place, they won't burn fuel until they have to, so it makes a decent failover in the early game.

[lunar scaffold]

Correct, keep your biomass system ready to go incase of a outage. I made that mistake and had to set up all my biomass again to get the coal system going

When you get to the point where you get batteries USE THEM

[zenith pecan]

Or just go full ham and build a colossal power station that you won't overwhelm in a month of sundays.

[reef basin]

yeah batteries are great for vehicles and drones

[tropic plover]

I can make batteries, where do they get placed? Near my smelters and such or near the coal plants.
At the moment I have about 120Mw spare capacity on my system

[reef basin]

if you mean power storages, then I'd recommend not using them, just build more power

[zenith pecan]

Power stores have a very narrow window of usefulness, once you reach fuel, you can outgrow them hard, I only built mine for the hell of it, not for any real use, they will never ever get to discharge,

[tropic plover]

Whats crazy is that I have 1 Mk 2 Coal miner with level 3 belts thats giving me steel as well as fueling 6 coal plants with no issues

[zenith pecan]

My old save has 8001 power stores, in that game the entire show is being run from them after I shut off the mains with a mind to fix the save after 1.0 hit, they'll keep everything going for about 11 days, I never went back to fix it 🤣 , I'm near 800h into my current save instead.

[tropic plover]

This is my first game. almost 30 hours in

[zenith pecan]

Enjoy it, build, stuff it up, build again, explore and have fun, you don't get your first playthrough and the adventure again 😄

[dense violet]

you mean phase 2?

that really should have been teh first thing you do when you unlock it >.>

[lunar scaffold]

Me personally I just made a little cube off to the side of base to store all the batteries.

[tropic plover]

Yeah, I need about 350 more of the beam things to unlock phase 2

[zenith pecan]

I've had some colossal and hilarious failures 🤣 , treasure those learning experiences.

[open lantern]

anyone got a bug where pumps aint showing the head lift their producing?

[dense violet]

they always produce the same amount of headlift?

[zenith pecan]

I think he's referring to the blue hologram that shows on-pipe where the head lift goes to and direction.

[open lantern]

i mean the actual distance they are lifting the liquids.

not the blue hologram. all good

[zenith pecan]

Sorry.

[dense violet]

is that a thing? and if so why is that a thing? a mk1 always gives you 20m headlift whether you use it or not

[open lantern]

I cannot attach a SC but if you open the pump interface it shows

[meager pawn]

Hey I need help

[tropic plover]

Doesnt gravity help too?
I have my pipes coming down a mountain so have to pump it up but then everything below is almost always full for a LONG way

[meager pawn]

What’s the best channel to write my help

[open lantern]

correct.

[zenith pecan]

Ask away, if it will need in-depth assistance, your best bet is posting in #1038092680493801533

[dense violet]

if you attach a pump to the down pipe it'll also be 20m above it's height

as it resets headlift

[meager pawn]

When doing this me of my blueprints. When stacking it. It’s one wall height too high. Can’t post a picture here

[dense violet]

you can post in #math-and-meta or make a post in #1038092680493801533

basically eveyr other channel allows images

[zenith pecan]

The #1038092680493801533 threads allow for pictures and sub 100mb video clips to better explain problems.

[lost wagon]

Hog spawning back on top of a mountain when you bait to fall is pretty sad

[fathom shuttle]

I have a big problem, I don’t have enough copper sheets to make all the fuel generators I need

And if I want to connect them I’ll need plastic, which I don’t have a lot left over of and I don’t have any production up

Mildly cooked

[dense violet]

you haven't automated these items?

[tropic plover]

Cant you get from the Shop?

[fading flume]

How you guys use blueprint ? 1 machine type blueprint or else ?

[dense violet]

up to you really

[zenith pecan]

You can build a shockingly basic oil refinery to get initial access to rubber & plastic, and just ramp up the copper plate production, this is a game of solutions 🙂

[dense violet]

a few machines with the thigns hooked up is pretty normal as a generic BP

[zenith pecan]

It doesn't have to be efficient, just has to work for starting supplies.

[fading flume]

yeah i think this is the best way if i just want to be generally fast set up on factory

but later on should i make parts blueprint ?

[dense violet]

parts?

[fathom shuttle]

I have, but I had to allocate capacity to making copper wire and I forgot to set the machines back to copper sheets 💀 and I deleted the refinery set up I used to make the rubber and plastic, I made like 10k of them and thought that was good enough but nah

[fading flume]

so 1 BP make reinforced iron plate

[dense violet]

so you don't have them automated. Because if you have to set them back to making sheets, that's not automated

[fathom shuttle]

Yea true, but they’re automated now. I’m hoping for at least 3k ready so I can at least build enough to cover my refinery budget

[dense violet]

pretty sure this has been mentioned to you before, but automated everything 😛

everything

[zenith pecan]

I still have my starter copper & steel facilities producing construction supplies 🤣

[dense violet]

it'll make your life a lot easier

[fathom shuttle]

You don’t wanna see what I built bro….

[zenith pecan]

I'll not be shocked, while my starter factories are just skeletons with machines, my old space elevator setups produced a lot of spaghetti as well as elevator parts.

[fathom shuttle]

Literally all impure nodes with mk2 extractors going into randomly placed smelters and all the belts are clipping

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I really need to delete everything lol

[fading flume]

either continue that, fix it ,or just disamablle all and do over

i would just disamble all

[zenith pecan]

The impure nodes, or the distant ones are actually good for specific quantities for lines, or building supplies while you exploit more productive nodes for factory expansion.

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll disassemble and relocate, maybe have a train station that ships ores to my new base but other than that I’m never touch that shit again

[open lantern]

i would never diassemle unless your factory has a huge mistake. otherwise, just go to a new node

[zenith pecan]

I'm aiming to use two pure limestones that are at the back end of nowhere for construction concrete.

[fathom shuttle]

It’s not a factory but more like a very messy series of smelters, mines, constructors, and the occasional assembler

Oh and did I mention the oddly placed manufacturer that I use for space elevator parts lol

[open lantern]

thats by definition a factory, but you play the game how you like. its about having fun

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll take pictures and show you later lol

But it’s practically useless for me right now because I make everything I need in the second (first real) factory

[spiral dew]

what kinds of stuff do yall put on trains? just made a satellite steal beam factory cause i don't have that much coal in the desert

[steady glade]

all types of primary materials first

[gray aspen]

<@&387163995947270144>

[fathom shuttle]

Bulk shipments I guess, for example Ore, ingots and things like screws, iron plates etc

[steady glade]

next, 3rd or 4th degree items lime space elevator parts

[fathom shuttle]

Basically anything that makes more than 20/min

[spiral dew]

makes sense

guessing you could kinda go either way on transporting products or raw mats

[fathom shuttle]

Yea, just do whatever is best for your flow

[steady glade]

for ores, maybe try to make ingots on the spot where possible

[dense violet]

there's really no right answer, it's however you like doing it. Experiment. If you don't like it? you've learned what not to do

although I'd advise against making rail in spots with tons of elevation changes.

[quick barn]

Anyone else playing on Ultra everything (max view distance in this case) and notice that when you dismantle a crash site, from far away it still looks like its there?

[zenith pecan]

Less important for basics since they're one to one, but caterium etc, absolutely process asap and move ingots.

[steady glade]

my chainsaw leaves frames in when its sunny

[steady glade]

yes, if you're gonna use the smelter, its fine to move raw ores

[tropic plover]

Where will I find purple slugs?

[quick barn]

In hard to reach places

[leaden ether]

usually at the top of cliffs or spires or huge trees 🙂

[steady glade]

you have a scanner, start walking

[tropic plover]

I have a scanner for blue and yellow

Have not researched purple yet and dont have the jump pack either

[steady glade]

well go deeper into the island, stumble upon a purple and good luck

usually if a big thing walks around, a purple is nearby

[leaden ether]

You can build ramps if necessary to get up on top of higher landscape and look around. Especially at night they show up a long was off

[wispy tinsel]

I placed over 200 path signals insted of block signals

i have to remove all of them

[fathom shuttle]

LOD is pretty bad in this game

[steady glade]

there are probably more yellow and blue to find anyway, i'd advise you to avoid crafting them for now and keep getting more

[tropic plover]

So dont turn them into power shards?

[sharp sentinel]

Is Accelerator not on the boombox tapes?

[steady glade]

yup, maybe get yourself a handful for topical stuff but avoid relying on them

[fathom shuttle]

The scanner scans for all slug types

[quick barn]

Its crazy that entities that were removed just magically reappear when looking at the area from far away.

[fathom shuttle]

The fog/haze is mad annoying too

[quick barn]

Or caves

[leaden ether]

When you do start turning them automate it and sloop the machine to double the output.

[steady glade]

did you find other types of artifacts?

maybe mark that as spoiler

[quick barn]

That feels more atmospherec and doesnt bother me. Its the blatant stuff being there when it isnt.... or the invisible poison fog bug that grind my gears.

[fathom shuttle]

Get the production amplifier research first

[tropic plover]

I have 2 Sommersloops and 17 Power Shards

[quick barn]

Yeah - I wouldn't worry about misusing slugs. There are plenty

[steady glade]

cool thats way enough,

[zenith pecan]

Fine, removed, I cba with spoiler tags, primarily because it's pointless, since others will spoiler away 🤷‍♂️

Multiple edits because I just can't type this evening.

[steady glade]

go down the alien tech research tree for now, finish the right most side and get at least one more sommersloop

[open lantern]

does anyone know if pipeline junctions store liquid like a merger/splitter? if not, im spontaneously creating rocket fuel

[steady glade]

no they store nothing and have no throughput limit

[peak kelp]

its defff spontaneous generation

[open lantern]

this bug is actually killing me, i have no idea how this is happening

[steady glade]

probably some liquid sloshing back and forth, if you really wanna delete it you can flush the whole network

[dense violet]

what's the actual issue happening?

cause it's probably backflow

[peak kelp]

I’ve always wondered where that heavy oil residue I flush into nature goes…

[open lantern]

im working on creating a fuel system. my pipes were unable to get full so i started systematically deleting all my pipes. eventually i deleted all of them. then i accidentally circled a pipe onto the junction its coming from and it has rocket fuel in it.

eithout being connected to any other pipe

the junction is providing rocket fuel

[dense violet]

yeah I can almost guarantee it's back flow from improper pipe layouts

[open lantern]

there is not other pipes. and i have done this same exact thing before. it works

[dense violet]

the thing with improperly putting pipes down is sometimes you can have a delicate house of cards that works

[steady glade]

the lizard doggos and spitters share it and slurp it up

[dense violet]

and many other times it'll just collapse on you.

[dense violet]

post overhead images of your layout in #1038092680493801533

[open lantern]

I posted a video of what is happening. not sure how to forward it to this chat

[tall raven]

hey chat can you mirror blueprints yet

[steady glade]

if you posted in a message on discord you can r-click, copy the message link and paste here

[steady glade]

nope

[lost wagon]

alternate recipe can't be crafted by hand, right?

[reef basin]

no

[steady glade]

nope

[open lantern]

#1384347041077002401 message

[tropic plover]

My scanner has the no wifi signal for slugs

[steady glade]

too far from any slug

[tropic plover]

Okay cool.
Anyway, need to go to bed.
Beenin game for over 6 hours.
Almost 4am for me.

Thanks all for the help and see you all tomorrow

[icy raft]

I hate phase 3

[zenith pecan]

What's the problem with it?

[fathom shuttle]

At this phase you’ll need to start automating things for real, automate modular frames, encased industrial beams, motors, rotors and reinforced iron plates, also the steel beams and pipes

You’ll need lots and lots of steel products

[steady glade]

how many ppm did you make for phase 3?

rn im aiming for 5

is it enough for next phase?

[dense violet]

let parts collect in a large buffer, and just keep going

[steady glade]

is 1 enough?

[dense violet]

1 double container? for each part you build? sure, it'll quickly start up any new part you attach to it later

[icy raft]

I'm trying to make the 100 project parts for phase 3, don't remember the name tho

Requires a lot of stuff

[dense violet]

finding out the name is probably the first step to planning for it, yes

[icy raft]

Like a computer, heavy modular frames

I was setting it up, im pretty close to finishing but ima do that tomorrow

Got work tomorrow lmao

[prisma forge]

I still need to finish my phase 3 mega factory. That shit will take a few weekends.
Luckily, finals will be over soon and so will college for like two weeks

[prisma forge]

Buckle up. You're in for a wild ride with the next phase.

[timber shoal]

is there a limit to how many cargo wagons a train can have?

[lime ermine]

not that I know of

[zenith pecan]

Physically, no, but practically, you will have a crazy slow train if you add too many wagons without enough locos, I had a 400 car train with 1 loco, it moved at 13km/h after really slow acceleration. also really long trains won't climb slopes well, if at all.

[lime ermine]

it will be very slow with more then 8-10 though

[timber shoal]

wait train speed increases with loco count? I thought you just placed one at both ends so it could actually move

[zenith pecan]

Not speed, more like train speed decreases the more cars you have vs locos.

If driving a train down a slope it will accelerate as well.

[dense violet]

one on both ends, facing different ways is for doing a push pull system

[timber shoal]

easier than setting up a loop

[dense violet]

only if you never ever want more than 1 train on your line.
which honestly is the train's super power. Setting up a main path and making quick branches to new factories

having many trains using the infrastructure you initially built

[dense violet]

and a 'loop' just requires 2 lanes. with BPs it's basically the same amount of work as 1 lane

[timber shoal]

BP?

[dense violet]

blueprint

it's even more brain dead with the autoconnect they've added

[frail sleet]

They accelerate more going downhill if they're full, or there are more carts. Alledgedly (from the wiki) at least.

[minor vale]

For the first time ever I'm using satisfactory calculator for a production line plan, just to make planning things easier on myself.

Question though, I'm basing my production on input.
is there soemthing for me to click to automatically max the output for the set input?

[fathom shuttle]

10 for modular frames, 24 for encased industrial beams and 10 motors/min

Make lots of encased beams, you’ll need them for mk4 belts

[steady glade]

i thought we were talking about the space elevator phases, not hub phases

[dense violet]

the maximise button https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[sharp sentinel]

Well, that was nice. Sank some stuff I wasn't using and didn't want to have to store for later that I got from wrecks and got 30 tickets.

[fathom shuttle]

Oh, you should use the production amplifier for those parts, cuts all your costs in half

[minor vale]

ah this works much better I was using scim before.

[sharp sentinel]

Woot, elevator got.

[fathom shuttle]

Dude I feel like I’m going insane, I have 7 separate pipelines, each should go into 8 packagers, so they all should cover the entire cluster but I keep running out of them, WTF is going on!!!

Also camera mode is broken for some reason

[cyan belfry]

Stupid question is there any way to have multiple inputs on a dimensional depot uploader without it being able to be clogged?

[dense violet]

scim is a poor man's tools

[dense violet]

was that replying to the right person?

[cyan belfry]

Cool

[dense violet]

I mean I guess you could time your use of those items in the same pattern they are being delivered to the uploader? seems a bit insane though

[steady glade]

i dont have enough sloops for all my machines

[spiral dew]

think im gonna try to make a fuel power plant

[steady glade]

sucks that there are no stackable ceiling and wall pipeline supports

[dense violet]

stack them from the floor and go up.

[steady glade]

good luck and make them offshore maybe

[spiral dew]

best to wait for an alt recipe?

[steady glade]

oh yeah absolutely

|| 2 of them actually||

[novel jacinth]

posted a question about the new vertical splitting in #screenshots, vertical splitting and merging is nice and frustrating at the same time

[steady glade]

you can rclick copy the message link

[spiral dew]

huh, coated iron plate seems pretty good

[sudden flint]

<@&387163995947270144> Hey, mods... I think I just fell for a Discord Scam. Was there a guy who posted pictures of some mr. beast affiliation with a gambling service or something...

[novel jacinth]

#screenshots message

[dense violet]

why post a question in a channel you can't reply to?

basically eveyr other channel allows images

[cyan belfry]

What info did you enter?

[dense violet]

ask in #design-and-architecture with an image

[steady glade]

you can fix a splitter/merger to a placed elevator

[sudden flint]

into the website itself, very little. But I was on many 'third party' websites where I gave away a whole f###ing lot

[steady glade]

and the exit of the merger doesnt necessarily have to be the same as that of the lift

[novel jacinth]

wdym

[granite dove]

im upset that i just now found out you can bind colors and blueprints to the hotbar

[steady glade]

#screenshots message

[steady glade]

you can merge at the exit of a lift as well, then make it exit either in the same direction as the lift outputs or to the sides

example: #screenshots message

[novel jacinth]

I'm having trouble understanding what i'm looking at

[lime ermine]

Wait what I needed this 200 hours ago

[granite dove]

and this, is why i say these things in chat!

[sharp sentinel]

Anyone have that one guide to the optimal setup for multiple overclocked coal generators? I did it in my other save, but I am too lazy to go over and screenshot it.

[steady glade]

#screenshots message

[novel jacinth]

i don't want a 3d plane, i want it all to connect in one neat line

[steady glade]

vertical or horizontal?

[dense violet]

why not go to a channel that is less busy and where you can post pictures xD

[granite dove]

cause that channel has 1 minute long slowmode on

[novel jacinth]

vertical line

[granite dove]

and this channel isnt exactly busy either

[novel jacinth]

i'm stacking all my machines

[steady glade]

outside view of the same machines #screenshots message

[dense violet]

#math-and-meta has a 5s cd

[steady glade]

same, with the vertical nudge i started compacting my machines

[dense violet]

like this channel

[granite dove]

forgot that channel existed tbh, but this channel isnt exactly super busy at the current moment i see no reason they shouldnt continue here

[dense violet]

but you can post pictures there. And look at them directly.

[sharp sentinel]

#screenshots message

Can't wait to drive myself insane trying to do this again.

[novel jacinth]

posted a screenshot of the entire build w/ explanation

[cyan belfry]

I am preparing to redo my entire main base, but don't know at what point to delete the old thing and start the new thing. I'm afraid I'll do it too soon and run out of resources

[sharp sentinel]

No such thing as running out. Nodes are infinite. Just a matter of preparing appropriately.

[lucid pagoda]

we need the ability to mirror machines, my factories need symmetry

[steady glade]

how did you even manage to make it look like a tower of piza?

[sharp sentinel]

Hm. I hope I do better on power management in my new save. This one is doing 8k with wild fluctuations because my batteries never seemed to even out the geothermal power and consuming 6k.

[steady glade]

yea i did the same, the merger will work well at the bottom as long as you dont have the lift output out front of the machine

[novel jacinth]

pov angle XD, it's on the far left of my screen

[cyan belfry]

But I mean like reinforced plates for belts

[sharp sentinel]

Are you planning to dismantle for the move?

[novel jacinth]

yeah i realized that with the latest screenshot you posted, i'll try that

[cyan belfry]

Yea bc the current factory is set up very poorly and I'm gonna redo the entire thing while expanding it

[novel jacinth]

i wanted it to just be in front like it was originally, but if it's gotta be that way then oh well

[foggy lynx]

yo has anyones game been looking super weird with HDR turned on recently? i know the game doesnt technically support it, but even with HDR turned on it never looked weird, but now it does...its like desaturated and the orange stuff is now yellow

[sharp sentinel]

Full refund on dismantle, so you'll get most everything you've used back. Of course, if trying to make it better you'll need a little extra but it's a start.

[leaden ether]

That actually sounds like your HDR is actually WORKING now, but if the game doesn't support it, then it'll look messed up.

[sharp sentinel]

Lowkey, every game looks weird with HDR on for me. Even ones that supposedly support it.

[foggy lynx]

you may not have an OLED or a Mini LED

[cyan belfry]

Yea, plus I put a lot of my stuff in dimensional depots.

[steady glade]

have the lift output to the side and and make the merger output to the front, the lift wont look too good but it'll work, maybe put a small frame pillar over the lift

[sharp sentinel]

I have a curved OLED. I will never buy another curved monitor again.

[foggy lynx]

i enabled it thru the config files and it started doing this but then i disabled it and it never went back

[foggy lynx]

i have an Odyssey G8 OLED, HDR looks amazing in the games that support it properly, like Cyberpunk and Alan Wake 2

[steady glade]

whats bad about curved screens?

[sharp sentinel]

Looking at this power setup and just randomly notice a single coal generator that isn't actually in alignment with any row. Just off by itself...

[sharp sentinel]

It's coming apart at the center seam.

[foggy lynx]

yeah my curved is great, its only slightly curved, 1800r i think...which is small, perfectly immersive

[foggy lynx]

bro what?

thats an RMA right there

[steady glade]

we need pics, how tf does that happen??

[sharp sentinel]

Whole entire reddit thread about Samsung curved monitors doing this.

[foggy lynx]

do you like by chance have those bendable OLEDs?

[steady glade]

alright there's a difference between curved and bendable

[sharp sentinel]

I do believe the issue is how this isn't bendable at all.

[cyan belfry]

Fixed vs variable curve angle

[novel jacinth]

thanks for the help, i know i'm not the easiest person in the world to help lol @steady glade

[foggy lynx]

i mean coz corsair and whatnot have Bendable OLED Monitors

[sharp sentinel]

#off-topic-media message

Have a looksie.

[foggy lynx]

bro that is 100% an RMA

[sharp sentinel]

Out of warranty. Only two years, and the monitor is four.

Started a few months ago.

[foggy lynx]

damn thats wack

[steady glade]

dont worry about it i literally started stacking machines last night, ive been figuring this stuff out today

[novel jacinth]

i just wish you could simply replace the top/bottom of a lift with a splitter or merger, would make things so much easier

[foggy lynx]

you can put splitters in between lifs now tho

[steady glade]

thats crazy

[foggy lynx]

and also theres vertical splitters now

[steady glade]

you can, just that one side will be closed off, 2 if its in the middle of the lift

[sharp sentinel]

Even crazier is a fly got inside from up there and has been stuck in my line of sight for days now.

[steady glade]

oh right you can push it into a conveyor floor hole and deal with it in the Logistics Floor™

[steady glade]

that burn-in gonna be crazy

[foggy lynx]

fly burn-in

[sharp sentinel]

I have a spare, but it's Wal-Mart's brand and the colours aren't as vivid.

[steady glade]

tape it up, uncurve it and live nervously waiting for your current screen to die

[fathom shuttle]

I meant it as a general message sorry for the ping

I started a tally system, I’m on the 6th and final extractor

[leaden ether]

Heh, I never noticed the little cubes fliping around inside the superposition oscillators before

[fathom shuttle]

I can connect the end of the pipes to balance any deficiencies in a pipes flow right? None of them exceed 480/min so it should be fine

[steady glade]

yeah you can

realistically you could even pump 900m3 if you have 2 exits with proper paths that wont take more than 600

[dense violet]

maybe do a diagram in #math-and-meta with what the issue is?

[wintry wharf]

why are my lizard doggos freezing in place

[fathom shuttle]

Nevermind, I figured it out. I just need to hook it all up and see if to works now

[novel jacinth]

TIL you can do a half nudge by holding ctrl while nudging

[granite dove]

huh, neat

[fathom shuttle]

W pipework? #screenshots

[novel jacinth]

that is definitely pipes

[burnt ferry]

damn it.. the green spiders jump attack you???

[fathom shuttle]

You can tell the moment where I gave up on organizing them

[novel jacinth]

the new shelving units in 1.1 are so nice, just wish you could place signs directly against them instead of having to do weird bump stuff to get it into position

[burnt ferry]

it looks like some shoes whichs laces have been tied together too much for a long time or some headphones with intertwined cables, which someone attempted to fix by untieing/unmessing the thing and then came a long a good way, which means the former nubble is now what looks like a poisoneous algea or some type of mold but in fact has more knots and twists as before and even is ripped apart here and there as the person gave up eventually

[burnt ferry]

can you do more with those than to put small crates into them? with dimensional depot those seem rather unnecessary

[novel jacinth]

i haven't done any dimensional stuff yet so idk

[minor vale]

big ones do

[burnt ferry]

setting them critters to passive even when attacked was such a good decision

tons of dna.. no wallglitching annoyances... perfect

[sharp sentinel]

Clipping has no actual effect on gameplay right?

[frail sleet]

not until the space octopus phase

[fathom shuttle]

Elegant description lmao

I’m going to sleep now, I’ll finish the generators and power storage system tomorrow. I’m just hoping nuclear war doesn’t happen while I’m asleep tho

[rich kestrel]

I HAVE ACHIEVED COAL POWER

[rich kestrel]

we all do

[royal scaffold]

is anyone having this issue? I am running a server through Nitrado. Not sure what is causing this but every time I sent out the HUB It does not unlock what I pinned. Happened twice on two different days. Today was the Foundation & yesterday was the merger/splitter...........Is this a server thing or something I should send to satisfactory bug report?

[rocky glacier]

@north cloud i think you should look at this #screenshots message

[south nova]

i did

[spiral dew]

any tips for getting rid of spaghetti that looks like this? this is just basically routing to the smelter #screenshots message

[north widget]

how o nearth

do you make curves like i cant rotate the foundation slightly its only 90 degrees

anyone?

[spiral dew]

#screenshots message so i think the part on the right is just not attached to world grid

maybe several parts are not aligned 😛

[north widget]

low how do i curve a foundation pelase someone tell me

[mossy raft]

Place one down place one above but hold down ctrl and rotate it a bit

Place under and done

[mossy raft]

Yes that’s a big problem but just start building on the grid and just use conveyor towers and connect em all and build the whole thing straight with 90 angles

Will look much more logiticqted

[spiral dew]

oh i don't really mind them being unaligned since they look a bit more like natural old cities

boston city streets

i just think i need to come up with a way to hide the belts

run them under fonudations or something

[mossy raft]

Well

You will hate that

[spiral dew]

out of sight, out of mind? 😛

[mossy raft]

…

Really hard to split off

And gives you hard time when you have to put in the 6th conveyor

[north widget]

but like how should i make curves wit hthat

[spiral dew]

if you mean like smooth 45 degree turns you will prob need one of the awesome shop foundation sets

[mossy raft]

https://youtube.com/shorts/OidwL9rmdLU?si=yQHBvHzXxNwStyIF
this is easier

If you dont want really nice curves

[cursive crane]

^

[dense violet]

one of a dozen ways https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmJiL4JznaU

google and youtube is your friend

[paper wedge]

are you guys more build things into and around the natural terrain and landscapes, or more of a make a flat platform floating in the air and super factories up on top ignoring the terrain entirely types?

im debating the pros and cons of each and what i want to do going forward

[cyan garnet]

I really prefer the aesthetic of integrating with the terrain, personally. It requires more thought and effort tho

The map is gorgeous, so it’s nice to showcase it as much as possible

[paper wedge]

ya i tend to agree, but the ease of just laying a platform and going from there is tempting

[pastel carbon]

I hate floating factories

[fast tendon]

I go nuts when things don't align

[pastel carbon]

I'll try to somewhat build with the terrain by at least not having floating factories

[dense violet]

if you're making sky infrastructure in a 3d game that's a lose condition for me

[pastel carbon]

The exception is oil processing stuff, that can float any time

[dense violet]

may as well get a mod that flattens the map

[pastel carbon]

My west coast oil processing floats above the ocean, my blue crater oil processing and fuel plant floats above the lake

[cyan garnet]

I do build my rail platforms and pylons elevated but use cement pillars to hold them up

[pastel carbon]

Technically, I could put in the effort to turn those floating platforms into proper decorated offshore rigs so it isn't technically floating, but with how huge refineries are, I don't really want to bother with that

[fast tendon]

Got some spare steel?

Hehe

I do have a fondness of using frame foundations for filler

Just a fan of the rustic look I suppose

[foggy lynx]

yo is someone able to help me here with my coal plant? this shits not making sense, ive been working on it for like a week.

i have 54 generators overclocked to 200% and i have each 300 pipe of water going into 3 machines (200% means they need 90 water per minute) but for some reason the flowrate of the pipes arent pushing the water into the machines well and theyre running out of water and shutting off. ive done the math here pretty much perfectly but these pipes just arent pushing the water

even the 1st generator in the chain of 3 is running out, so its not like it being an overflow system is the issue

[maiden jacinth]

show us the plant

[foggy lynx]

i geniunely dont know how id show it off with screenshots, all of the pipework is in between foundations and its very hard to get screenshots

i can try tho what do you want screenshots of specifically?

[maiden jacinth]

im just wondering if its a headlift issue

[foggy lynx]

it shouldnt be, they should have 10m of headlift by default

[cyan garnet]

Make a thread in #1038092680493801533 include screenshots

Just get screenshots from high above showing the overall layout to start

[foggy lynx]

the entire thing is incased in a building

[cyan garnet]

You could remove the walls temporarily. I would make a thread in any case since helping troubleshoot could be a lengthy discussion

[foggy lynx]

i cant remove the walls, its not just a single layer, its like Multiple layers and HOURS of design work, id have to essentially dismantle the entire plant in order to show it off, is no one able to just let me screenshare?

[pastel carbon]

Is it possible to draw what your pipe design looks like from the side?

[cursive crane]

Huh... actually kinda surprised theres no voice channels here

[foggy lynx]

yeah ik its weird

[patent siren]

i hadn't played satisfactory for the better half of a year and man i forgot how genuinely bad trains are to learn and troubleshoot, i'd rather build factorio trains with no blueprinting whatsoever than use them honestly

[fast tendon]

They aren't that bad once you learn their quirks

I'm being lazy in my current playthrough and just using monorails

[foggy lynx]

it would be highly complicated, theres 18 pipes

[patent siren]

there isnt any easy way to learn their quirks

[maiden jacinth]

if you just want blind speculation

its a headlift issue

[foggy lynx]

some of them work and others dont, so if it was a headlift issue all of them would be shutting off

[cursive crane]

Sometimes people can easily spot the issues though just seeing what your setup is.
Windows+shift+s, ctrl+v.
If you can at least get pictures of the extractors, pumps, and generators that can clue people in and can see what they need more of
In #1038092680493801533 of course

But usually people don't like jumping in voice chat to help

[fast tendon]

I read a guide on how the trains work but it's not a short read for sure, still has gotten me to understand them for the most part

[patent siren]

like, i dont know who's idea it was not to, but having no way to see your train system from top down nor a way to actually see where they are going is just bad game design

[foggy lynx]

I don’t mean to sound like “that guy” but it’s not very inclusive. I have a learning disability. The concept of showing this off in screenshots genuinely makes no sense to me. As simple as it may seem it confuses the fuck out of me. I’m a visual learner and teacher so a VC is the easiest thing for me

[fast tendon]

You can see them on the map and iirc checking the station let's you see the status of all trains

[patent siren]

you can see the location of the train not the tracks or where they are going

[fast tendon]

Pretty sure you can check the timetable at the station at least

[patent siren]

thats still not helpful for troubleshooting

[cursive crane]

Then post in #1038092680493801533 asking for someone to jump in vc for your problem. Your message will just get lost here

[foggy lynx]

yeah ok

will do that

[pastel carbon]

Factorio is really good at that huh

I've found satisfactory trains to be pretty straightforward to get working, but factorio trains are next level

Those visual changes they made to the train GUI a while back make a huge difference

[fast tendon]

Factorio trains will also kill you

[pastel carbon]

It's strange because satisfactory trains look way more dangerous

I love trains in both games though

Factorio for the sheer depth of the train system, and satisfactory because there's something really satisfying about seeing giant trains roll around in 3D space

Still waiting for 300 km/h satisfactory bullet trains though lol

[red linden]

Is biomass energy just a stopgap before next tier of energy?

[maiden jacinth]

the map is too small for bullet trains

[patent siren]

its barely even got extra depth to fix the issue
the issue is that satisfactory doesn't tell you any info besides "train wont go cuz of this issue" (the issue is one of the multiple signals that all have to be manually checked somewhere across the massive distance of track)

[pastel carbon]

Say that to factorio and it's crazy train acceleration

[pastel carbon]

Yeah pretty much

You can use lone locomotives to do some troubleshooting though

That's what I tend to do to fix signalling issues

[cursive crane]

Pretty much. Speedrun through it to get coal running, speedrun through coal to get liquid fuels running
Hot tip: dont throw out all your biomass though. Packaged biofuel for jetpacks is clutch

[pastel carbon]

Place a locomotive at different points of track and see what it does when I ask it to go to a stop

[patent siren]

like, genuinely if satisfactory just let you see tracks, routes, and blocks then it'd actually have trains usable by the general player

[pastel carbon]

I am general player and they are usable

[maiden jacinth]

factorios map is way bigger

[pastel carbon]

Actually, not quite

[fast tendon]

I didnt even use signals in my first playthrough

[pastel carbon]

Playing on regular maps, ore patches are not that far away

[fast tendon]

You only need them if it's a big interconnected train system

[pastel carbon]

Yes, the factorio world is way bigger, but the patches you actually use aren't particularly far

[lucid pagoda]

does anyone else use color to differentiate flow rates for an in construction factory thats reliant on pipe inputs? im using it rn for a fuel gen setup

[fast tendon]

The little rings on the pipes indicate flow rate!

[lucid pagoda]

yea but they aint flowin yet, waitin for power they gonna be makin

[cursive crane]

Best use for it honestly, some sort of sorting purpose.

[pastel carbon]

I'd say that being able to see train stuff from the map would be pretty cool

[cursive crane]

I just wish we had more swatches

[fast tendon]

I usually just color coded them by fluid, so I can see them at a glance

[maiden jacinth]

the satisfactory map is like a little over 5 kilometers wide

[fast tendon]

Only thing I want is to be able to paint symbols and text on pipes

[cursive crane]

I want to be able to get rid of the ugly grates on generic foundations

[lucid pagoda]

i can show what i mean, #screenshots message red pipes get 60 oil per min, green are getting 240

[pastel carbon]

In factorio, you very rarely need to transport ore 5000 tiles

It's only if you play railworld and get to megabase level where you transport ores so far

Usually it's just a few hundred tiles, similar to satisfactory

[fast tendon]

Beans get stuck on my trains sometimes, weirdos

[pastel carbon]

Anyway, I don't mind the slower trains and acceleration in satisfactory

I like that they're lumbering beasts and have more realistic acceleration and speed values

But I do love the idea of bullet freight trains, as unrealistic as they are

[fast tendon]

How do you stop beans from wandering into train tracks, they ignore my signs