satisfactory

[reef basin]

discord needs to remove that

[sleek sierra]

Yes

[sleek sierra]

No

🗿

[mortal ginkgo]

It was a good cash grab.

[finite latch]

hidden 1.1 feature - you can now zoop stackable pipe and belt supports

[mortal ginkgo]

wasnt this always a thing?

[hidden sparrow]

Discord users try not to fall for the most useless cosmetics that cost them 30 usd per months :

[grand sluice]

It's been 3 days and I already spent 30hours on the 1.1 update...

[topaz gyro]

always a thing no?

[sour pilot]

it was even before 1.0, lol

the only problem that this zooping didn't show a counter for some unknown reasons

[finite latch]

then I just have always place one at a time

[mortal ginkgo]

sadness is all you are now

[finite latch]

did they always have a ring then? they look different for some reason

[sleek sierra]

eyyy

I didnt spend 1 cent for discord nitro

ever

or any other thing

[quick sky]

suggestion: make it so that if you drink from the mug 50 times in 1 minute you instantly die (caffeine overdose; realistic; immersive)

[mortal ginkgo]

why should a game be realistic?

[quick sky]

why should a game be at all? an inherent impulse towards gameness? the inevitable destiny of gaming?

[mortal ginkgo]

because we are gamers, we are gamin'. Doh.

[quick sky]

you may be gamers, but I am gameR, no S... I'm an individual goddammit... a FREE THINKER

[fathom shuttle]

It’s 30 now?

[mortal ginkgo]

requesting permission to smirk snarkily to this comment

[fathom shuttle]

Crazy shit lol

[quick sky]

permission maybe granted, maybe not

[scarlet kettle]

is it possible to bring caterium ore and water from one location to another with train?

[quick sky]

why wouldn't it be

[scarlet kettle]

idk

[quick sky]

that's what trains are for

[scarlet kettle]

i cant figure out how they work

[mortal ginkgo]

there are fluid wagons too, maybe you are curious about that

[grand sluice]

Oh no, I spent 4 hours yesterday rebuilding my factory to make it clean...

and now I belted it in

[quick sky]

you could start with a simple two way single lane train, it's the easiest setup

[grand sluice]

It's a mess

[scarlet kettle]

a what?

[quick sky]

It's simple, you have a train on a single rail that goes both ways. It starts from one end, goes to the other, and back again. Back and forth forever. You don't have to do a loop, just a straight line with 2 stations at minimum. Just make sure to point the end stations away from each other and put 2 train engines on the train facing away from each other also

[limber mulch]

Hi folks, is there any way to get a warning when my plant is running on battery because there isn't enough generated power available?

[reef basin]

if you mean power storage, then the warning is automatic

[limber mulch]

I'm not getting a warning. I just set up two packagers in a loop with a battery (power storage), charged it off the main grid for a minute, and then disconnected the main grid so it ran on battery. No warning.

[reef basin]

(battery is an item, power storage is the building 😉 )

[true mulch]

you won't get a warning until it's running off power storages for a while

and that while is uhh maybe 30 minutes without interruption

[limber mulch]

Oh wow, ok

[dense violet]

was fairly certain you got it as soon as the batteries started draining

[limber mulch]

Not in my little test - it ran for 3 mins on power storage and then died

[true mulch]

nope, I've never actually seen the warning myself, I just know it exists because I translated it

[limber mulch]

no warning

Is it a message or audible?

[dense violet]

well you can set up a priority power switch so your power station never shuts down

[dense violet]

a sound and a msg in the corner

[limber mulch]

Yes I know thank you

[dense violet]

iirc

[limber mulch]

Yeah, I'm not getting warnings. but maybe it takes 30 mins?

[true mulch]

that would get very annoying very quickly if you're edging the power storages (and in tier 9 you're expected to do just that)

[dapper forge]

For a returning player(400 hrs on update 8), what is the best starter location? My first save was in grassy fields because I didn't know any better(nothing against it, it was a bit slow to set up there). But I quickly started another save in the rocky desert, in and around which I built most of my mega projects. Never got to nuclear though, was spending too much time with aesthetics.
I have decent experience with combat but I cannot handle alpha heavy areas early game, so that forest biome with a lot of alphas is crossed off the list.

I'm still down to start Rocky desert but open to any suggestions. This time I plan to finish the game so I want a decent start even if I have to run a lot to get to it from regular starting locations. Please advice...

[dense violet]

really shouldn't

[dense violet]

you're not really. having a buffer of power is easy.

[limber mulch]

@true mulch good point!

Good talk! Thanks everyone 🙂

[dense violet]

really just a personal choice. Most of hte locations are fairly teh same. Norther forest is more concentrated but you have to build up

[dapper forge]

Northern forest is more concentrated in resources you mean?

[true mulch]

both in resources and in foliage

you have to either cut down massive parts of the forest or build above it

[dense violet]

nodes are closer together, but you need to build in floors upwards

[dapper forge]

hmm, a minor detail I didn't divulge was the fact that I don't want to mess with the existing fauna as much as I can

[true mulch]

dune desert is the opposite of that, so much room that you won't know what to do with it

[dapper forge]

last save, I went full deforestation mode, I want to avoid that

[dense violet]

fauna exists everywhere pretty much

[true mulch]

which I prefer for messing around

[unkempt depot]

Hi

[dense violet]

and if you build up you can avoid it for the most part

[dapper forge]

Okay I will start Northern forests then, see how it goes. Maybe funnel to dune for megaprojects..

[torn dust]

Hey. Any news on console release? I can only see "this year"

[frozen ingot]

that's all we know for now

they're all hard at work porting it

[lime ermine]

that is all the news so far :(

[torn dust]

Okay nw. Thank you, cant wait XD @frozen ingot @lime ermine

[frozen ingot]

yeah, northern forest has good resource density but few flat areas, lots of biomass

dune desert has good resource density too, and is kinda flat ish, but very little biomass

both good for advanced pioneers 😄

[torn dust]

Ive tried to stay pretty clueless for the most part about the game as i want to find stuff out myself when i play. But is it multiplayer??

[frozen ingot]

only if you want it to be, you can play solo or co-op

[torn dust]

Okay cool.

[dapper forge]

I'm gonna watch a few videos on Northern forest start and check the map out on tools before I begin... I've only been there to explore before

[dense violet]

theres really not much to it. The terrain is very broken up, nodes are closer together. Pretty much sums it up.

[frozen ingot]

there's a particulary spot in the NF which is a great starting location, or just generally a good location for quite a few parts

four pure iron, two pure copper, two pure limestone. Plus coal relatively close, and two impure oil nodes relatively close as well

[dapper forge]

Is it that place near the cliff?

[frozen ingot]

yes, it is a bit cliffy

[last jungle]

is it just me or is the crafting slower in 1.1?

[dapper forge]

I had a supercomputer factory there, did they nerf(remove) some caterium/quarts nodes there? I don't find them on satisfactory tools

[glossy iris]

I've decided to skip tiers 3 and 4 entirely(not like, skip skip them but not build any factories around them) since 90% of what the project parts need are things that you already have from 1 and 2 and like 500 steel beams lol

And Tier 4 belts are literally right around the corner and significantly boost production values compared to tier 3 belts, as well as fuel generators and plastics and trains and- well you get the idea lol

[hard ivy]

that's basically what I did too

couldn't be bothered to automate motors without having pure iron first

[frozen ingot]

there was caterium like 500m away, used to be two nodes, i think they got rid of one node though, possibly in 1.0 but i cr

#off-topic-media message screenshoted it here from SCIM map. I'm sure it used to have two caterium nodes

one had a blastable rock on it

[hard ivy]

SCIM has the U8 map to so y'all can just check

[dense violet]

a lot of thigns changed in 1.0

[frozen ingot]

so it does, and yes, it used to have two nodes!

handy 😄

great starting spot

once you graduate from the grassy fields

[leaden turret]

@cosmic garden missed opportunity for chuwu chuwu train

[cosmic garden]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

thanks discord

gif didnt work

[reef basin]

well yeah, embeds are disabled in this channel

[nova sparrow]

is there a less destructive alternative to nobelisk to get rid of the poison plants?

[cedar kestrel]

is it impossible to make drones only travel when full?

[dense violet]

you need some kind of explosive

[dense violet]

have the buffer full when you start up the system, but that'll only work if you're moving enough product pm.

[cedar kestrel]

im carrying very few items

[dense violet]

rip
doesn't use much fuel in any case

[glossy iris]

me: wow for having 6 assemblers this smart plating is taking its sweet time filling up

checks assemblers
the half that were making versatile framework still have frames on the belts going into the elevator
me: ah

[frozen ingot]

😆

we've all been there 😄

[sterile blade]

Nodes shouldn't have changed though, right?
I didn't see any mention of that in #patch-notes

[glossy iris]

aw yeah cloudy weather perfect for elevator launch

[sterile blade]

Feature request: weather control station, powered by SAM

[glossy iris]

I love cloudy weather during elevator launch cause it produces the coolest animation

[sterile blade]

What changes? (If it's easy to describe xD)

[glossy iris]

||it blasts a hole in the clouds||

[fluid sapphire]

compact lifts not possible to make right now?

[spice patio]

There was at least plan to remove ability to build them.
That was then supposed to have been rolled back.
But not sure of the actual current status.

[frozen ingot]

love the compact vertical lifts

[spice patio]

Because being able to do shorter than default lifts was bug/"feature", not intended thing.

[frozen ingot]

delightful bug 😄

[boreal musk]

try pulse nobelisk, they can kill those flowers iirc without destroying floras around

[past torrent]

you've got to be kidding me, they didnt fix the conveyor lift bug before release?

i just had 3 randomly disconnect that have been working for hours and hours

this makes me want to quit until it's fixed

theres basically no point playing if things just randomly break, imagine the chaos

[dense violet]

Uses bug. Bug gets fixed. Rage quits

[past torrent]

???

wtf are you talking about

[dense violet]

you were using an exploit/bug. It gets fixed. Now you're angry?

[past torrent]

PLACING CONVEYOR LIFTS NORMALLY IS A BUG ⚠️

[dense violet]

sounds like you're complaining about teh squished boys right?

[pliant prawn]

Lifts with vertsplit/merge do bug out weirdly

[past torrent]

its obviously a bug, i have a world with 500 hours that worked perfectly, it compacts machines extremely nicely if you know how to use it properly

it should not be considered a bug to do that kind of stuff

the only bug here is the lifts now disconnecting

[spice patio]

Shorter than with 2m gap lifts were always a bug.

[dense violet]

so my statement was correct.

[spice patio]

But those were supposed to be not removed in the end, but seems it did happen anyways.

[past torrent]

they werent removed though, so i dont see how it's a bug

[spice patio]

They were planned to be fixed/removed because of the various issues they had in BPs at least in 1.1 experimental.

[pliant prawn]

they did some rework onhow squished ones work for optimization. So the 'old' ones broke, if you redo the BPs for them they should work. They did announce it but it flew under a lot of radars

[reef basin]

bug - unintended bahavior, no matter if removed or not

[past torrent]

? i started a new world on release

i've made new blueprints etc and they still broke

[pliant prawn]

are your squished lifts from older BPs?

[past torrent]

i dont have any older blueprints, since its a new world, obviously

[fluid sapphire]

there's a bunch of funky stuff with lift alignment too now, that i swear was not broken in 1.0, like lifts dont really properly align with basically anything

[pliant prawn]

You can imprt them so it was worth an ask

[past torrent]

oh didnt know that

[pliant prawn]

Was tryn to help lol

[past torrent]

well anyway, its 1.1 full release i thought the disconnection thing was an experimental only issue, seems like i cant trust them anyway

[pliant prawn]

the lifts do bug out in a few weird ways. are yours using vertical splitter/mergers?

[past torrent]

this is one of my favorite mechanics in the whole game to play around with, making super compact lift stuff

nah no vertical splitters yet

[last jungle]

wtf is a vertical splitter

[whole zinc]

welp this is the first time ive seent he play time warning 🤣

[pliant prawn]

watch out for those. they get...weird. They dont connect right especially when floor holes get involved

[past torrent]

wait until you hit the 18 hour warning

[whole zinc]

that is.. woah lmao

[last jungle]

um

[pliant prawn]

1.1 now allows you to snap splitters and mergers to conveyor lifts!

[last jungle]

OH WAIT

lemme test

[pliant prawn]

careful! they tend to screw stuff up atm

[past torrent]

damn they only allow 2 extra in/out

[last jungle]

omg so beautiful

[pliant prawn]

well, 4 really. up and down

its just a splitter on its side haha

[spice patio]

Same amount as normal splitters and mergers.

[junior laurel]

It's just like a normal one. But upy downy

[pliant prawn]

upy downy...very technical terms that

[last jungle]

if i have oil/heavy residue really far from my base would it be a good idea to bring packaged heavy residue back to my base, unpackage and make smokeless powder?

[junior laurel]

Thank you I try my hardest

[last jungle]

or would it be better to bring black powder to my oil thing and make it there

[dense violet]

its usually easier moving solids

[south sinew]

packaging it may be a bit painful since you then have a bunch of extra packages littering around your base

[pliant prawn]

really up to you. I dont even really mess with them as automation. just temp build and stash a bunch

[past torrent]

can just make a loop with the packagers

make sure the buffers are large enough

[last jungle]

like industrial buffers?

[past torrent]

nah chests, if you wanna fill up on empty packaging

[south sinew]

if you're gonna make a loop may as well send the powder to the oil and the smokeless powder back

[past torrent]

fill at the oil place, transport to base, unpack, send the empty packaging back into a buffer ready to be refilled

[past torrent]

yeah just depends on where he wants the machines, a loop is required anyway

[last jungle]

guys i got a pathetically stupid idea

what if i use a dd

[past torrent]

dd?

[last jungle]

dimensional depot

[past torrent]

you'd have to take them out yourself

[last jungle]

the smokeless powders?

[dense violet]

you can't automate it that way

[past torrent]

whatever you put in you cant take out automatically

[fathom shuttle]

Can I overclock belts?

[dense violet]

yes, it's called unlocking faster mks

[last jungle]

i meant like putting in smokeless powder into the dd

[past torrent]

speedrun mk4, make small factories to unlock mk6, destroy every factory in the world and make mk6 stuff

[fathom shuttle]

True

[boreal musk]

depot is personal inventory, they are not for automating

[fathom shuttle]

What’s the highest belt level btw

[last jungle]

mk6

[past torrent]

mk6

[boreal musk]

6

[past torrent]

1200/min limit

[fathom shuttle]

What’s the capacity

Oh wow

[boreal musk]

they should introduce official 2m lift

[last jungle]

that would be called a stair prob

[fluid sapphire]

im making my factories so that no belt carries more than 600, when i get mk3 miners and mk6 belts, i can just upgrade the belts and overclock my machines

[last jungle]

i named my oil production thing "its earth all over again"

[white dawn]

<@&387163995947270144> #screenshots message (text on the signs)

[timid rune]

hmm hopefully this should work - #screenshots message

bottom left should read 200 not 120

[dense violet]

... what is it?

pipes?

[timid rune]

yeah

aluminum scrap maths

[dense violet]

while it's technically possible it's going to be a lot more finicky merging and splitting multiple fluids

oh geez, this is for waste water?

[timid rune]

yeah

[dense violet]

then that's upgraded to highly not recommended

[oblique hound]

dont know if this is the right channel, but just came back home after two weeks and the wiki has ads now??

wasnt most of the reason for switching off of fandom because of this?

[reef basin]

yeah that will break very soon

[timid rune]

it has been a while since I have touched scrap maths

[reef basin]

reason was too many ads

[dense violet]

it's less maths and more flow issues

[timid rune]

yeah

[dense violet]

are all the 120s wastes?

[timid rune]

yeah

[dense violet]

why split them into 3x200s again?

[timid rune]

no particular reason really lol

now I have some time to redo it though

so time to redo it from scratchj

[oblique hound]

#off-topic-media message

is this a small number of ads??

[reef basin]

idk, I run adblocker for like 10 years already

[dense violet]

if you're going to do anything like that just keep it as a 600 and process it like that

otherwise process each node of bauxite on it's own. It's own fresh and waste water systems

[dense violet]

like this #1347741162018046083 message

[oblique hound]

yeah, i had to turn it off to get that screenshot but the frames still render with it on

[reef basin]

they don't on my wiki 🤔

[oblique hound]

huh

[stark saffron]

is it good to keep playing a previus save or should you better restart

[molten lion]

I keep dying to some poison plant in a path I was trynna follow and now my loot is stuck in there, how do I avoid damage? I manage to crouch mid way to my create death box but no matter what I do, past this distance I take damange no matter what

[dense violet]

shrug up to you.
You do get better at teh basics with a restart. And if you think a fresh start is good for you then go for it

[old yarrow]

You blow em up

[dense violet]

heal through it or blow them up

[tawdry knoll]

Just a quick question? can anyone remember when you unlock / how you unlock Pipeline MK.2?

[dense violet]

!wikisearch pipe

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=pipe

[tawdry knoll]

Ah thx

[dense violet]

praise the wiki, love the wiki

[zealous whale]

i made one for 1.0 though? Did the map change significantly in a version after 1.0? I haven't played in a while.

[tawdry knoll]

I hope I got the things to unlock qwq I need about 16 * 90 MC^3 of water rn TwT

[dense violet]

just make smaller units with mk1 pipes

[zealous whale]

#fan-art message

[tawdry knoll]

But each of the machines need 90... that's just a gross number when I need that in 16. I could at most do 3 for 1 pipe

[stark saffron]

cause i played with mods and they and working

[molten lion]

xD how do I blow them up?

[dense violet]

are you over clocking coal gens or something?

[dense violet]

sulfur research in the MAM

[tawdry knoll]

Yup, cuz I just got MK.4 belts. Plus making long rows looks kinda... ugly yk? So I'm trying to make them smaller

[dense violet]

just keep making sections of coal gens 3 extractors : 8 gens

!wikisearch CG

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[molten lion]

how long ago did yall get into the game?

[vestal mica]

i had a pre-alpha on my atari 2600

[mystic oriole]

update 5 for me

[dense violet]

all overclocking coal gens does is save space. Not a huge point.

and you can stack them like this #1368525377630244954 message

[tawdry knoll]

Ig I could try

[shell grove]

ehhhh.... I did NOT know there is a suicide Hog with a jetpack, scared me to the bone

other news, hey I have a jetpack!

[fast tendon]

I've got over 400 hours and still haven't seen the jetpack hog

On a different note I NEED Spitter merch, I love those little moose dragon things

[sleek delta]

hello did someone say stack coal plants

[glossy iris]

I love breaking game progression through the power of crash site loot

[sleek delta]

go away falk no one likes you

[glossy iris]

noted, do not look into screenshots if I don't want potential spoilers lmao

[mortal ginkgo]

@old yarrow I would like to kindly ask you to spoiler tag that screenshot of yours. Thats the end game thing that I am sure people wouldn't want to be spoiled before finishing the game. 🙂

[last jungle]

wait how do i take stuff out of a dimensional depot without that "upload from inventory" mam research

i assume without it the stuff in the depot can only be used with crafting

[mortal ginkgo]

drag and drop. you dont need research for getting out, but in

[last jungle]

ohhhh

ok great

[abstract heron]

i am loving that the autosave area is bigger now

[last jungle]

holy shit my dad disables arachnophobia mode but stingers are fucking horrifying

i dont wanna see that thing again

[mortal ginkgo]

wait till the large ones that can jump on you 😄

[last jungle]

yea i just fought that thing

i am horrified

[mortal ginkgo]

thing is, thats not even the largest version 😄

[last jungle]

yea theres like a gas one

[mortal ginkgo]

nop, there is a larger one 😄

[last jungle]

(that one image of that soldier doing a death stare)

[mortal ginkgo]

Here is some lil trivia for you to feel better, long ago in one of the early access version of the game, there was a bug that actually made Stinger model larger the more you looked away.

It was getting 5x bigger. It was a visual only bug but I saw the screenshot and I was like, nope.

[sleek crow]

is there a way to rotate a Storage Container after its built?

[mortal ginkgo]

Nope

[shell grove]

what do you mean that's not even the largest one

[last jungle]

is there a giga ultra mega spider that fucking teleports to you

[mortal ginkgo]

you will know when you see the radioactive bar increasing + skittering leg sounds

[shell grove]

I already hate to fight those gas ones with how massive they are

[mortal ginkgo]

yea, thats not the largest one, there is a larger one

[shell grove]

ya know what, I'm not even scared of spiders IRL but I just might have to turn on the arachno mode just for that one... spiders in this game just scare the ... out of me in this game

[last jungle]

i have arachnophobia so i enabled the mode, one day my dad is like "bro what is this cat i found" and im like "oh thats a stinger"

[mortal ginkgo]

wait, I was wrong. there is no radioactive stinger

sorry for the wrong info to you too @last jungle

it seems the poison boi is the elite version

[last jungle]

either way im still horrified

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah, I actually hate the way they look

I wouldn't mind it too much if they were like, actual spiders

but that thing aint no spider

its behind legs being almost humanoid really weirds me out

[last jungle]

ahh yes

ariana grande

[shell grove]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-washington-my-heart-omg-beautiful-relieved-gif-5511635

[old yarrow]

op ya mb

[last jungle]

would it be funny if we had white powder, red powder, blue powder, etc. alongside black powder

as like paint or smth

[mortal ginkgo]

prior to 1.0 we had to gather flowers to make paint. I am so glad that devs got rid of it

[shell grove]

My lizard Doggo just gave me a nuke Nobelisk... I think this might be a hint to get him a nicer cage...
https://imgur.com/a/jZCN30u

[mortal ginkgo]

he is telling you to go and do a crime

[smoky peak]

,',|.'_'

[shell grove]

next spider I encounter ain't gonna be happy

[void gust]

Hey guys, sorry to bother, but with 1.0 or 1.1, did they fixed the fact that we could send multiples milestones at the same time?

Because i remember doing that in early access and cant do it today

[mortal ginkgo]

dont take my word for it but I remember reading it in reddit that it is indeed fixed

[void gust]

Okay so it s probably not me just forgetting how to do it

[mortal ginkgo]

Yep, you just need to stop being this good at the game.

[hard ivy]

yep, fixed in 1.0 unfortunately

[austere thunder]

Sorry if this has been answered 1000 times, but they released Priority Mergers with 1.1 did they not? Ive just now updated and it's no where to be found in my logistics build menu and i've checked the awesome shop

[hard ivy]

MAM

[vocal frost]

Okay not at all bashing this game because it was easily one of my all time favourite games. For a single playthrough, there were so many cool aspects I enjoyed much more than Factorio.

But for replayability, I don't know what it is. I'm really trying to sink my teeth into another play through and just find everything sloggish or frustrating without all the tools i know exist late game.

Do people feel the same or do they do re-plays with everything unlocked? I think unlocking everything might be what i'm looking for.

I don't know what makes factorio so fun to replay over and over again, back to back, but a satisfactory replay feels like it needs a much longer break.

[abstract heron]

New thing in 1.1 that machines keep doing if the production bar or status bar is any % is that suppose to happen

[austere thunder]

is it tier 9 ? Cause i've unlocked everything in the MAM.. (this is a 1.0 save that i just opened in 1.1)

[mortal ginkgo]

its in Quartz section almost bottom

[hard ivy]

it's like tier 2

[reef basin]

what "lategame" tools are you missing? most of the things are unlocked very early

[austere thunder]

Yeah, that's what I figured but I can't find it... so idk if it's glitched because it's a 1.0 save

[vocal frost]

hmm good question maybe i'm forgetting parts of what's related to MAM, but convenience stuff like dimensional portals, floor conveyor holes for organization, bigger stockpiles to get the factory rolling, blueprint sizing being locked behind progression is rough, but actually on that note i should just unlock more tiers or something.

[reef basin]

dimensional depots are available at like T3 afaik 🤔 or was it T5?

as for most other things, they are in MAM/awesome shop, which isn't really limited to tiers

[hard ivy]

tier 2 if you try hard enough

[mortal ginkgo]

if you meant dimensional depots, they are extremely early, you need to find a SAM node

[vocal frost]

Oh interesting, okay, maybe i just gotta stick through a little longer to see if i can get the ball rolling quicker than i did on my first playthrough.

i just already feel burnt out making screws off the bat 😄

especially without blueprints

[mortal ginkgo]

as someone who came from DSP, the fact that I could put planet-sized blueprints surely made me spoiled. this game surely has the "bro take it like, real slow." vibe to it which I also welcome

I will still continute to state that this game's blueprint system is a bit.. eh..

the fact that I can't select a group of objects and blueprint it on the go (or at least put them together into a blueprint designer) is truly meh to me

[vocal frost]

Yeah i came from factorio so i can also agree with that bit. It's an interesting take to unlock blueprint sizes in game progression because you legit will just waste time on blueprints if you have to can them for the bigger sizes later

[mortal ginkgo]

ya, auto connect at least eases some of the pain in various places. I would still say play this game if you want to relax and chill

[rotund spoke]

My first three hard drive picks were:

Cast screws.
bolted reinforced plates.
bolted modular frames.

Don't talk to me and my 500 needed screws/min ever again (I just barely unlocked steel)

[mortal ginkgo]

not pure yoloswag

and yes, get Cast Screws.

[hard ivy]

nah, I just take stitched plate asap, deal with default screw for the rotors (only need like 5 constructors) and after getting to steel I need steel rotor and heavy encased frame and I never have to make a screw again

[rotund spoke]

"yeah 3 miners supporting 3 smelters apiece? Should be fine for now....

2 minutes later

....On the other hand they can support 4 smelters....

[naive pendant]

@vocal frost I would say it’s not an uncommon feeling. Games like Satisfactory have a lot going on with them mechanics wise, so can be hard to understand what specifically makes them compelling initially vs for multiple playthroughs.

[swift cave]

Anyone know if vertical splitters/mergers/conveyors & their use in blueprints were at all patched from 1.1exp to 1.1 release? I didn't see any fixes mentioned in patch notes

[mortal ginkgo]

no, they are hacky at best. I think they still dont work if you use conveyor holes as well

just prepare yourself for unforseen consequences

[swift cave]

Word. I think I'm gonna wait to play again until those are more reliable. thanks

[naive pendant]

Huh, guess not too surprising they’re still buggy.

[mortal ginkgo]

they work, especially after manual building incase you are patient

however I -hate- the fact that you cant nudge them and sometimes they are just off the alignment

[rotund spoke]

Exploration on a vertical map that doesn't have navigation/traversal as a challenge (for the player, at least) is a joy

[swift cave]

yeah my brain gets too stressed trying to play this game when there's blueprint bugs. I have to know my blueprints are reliable and futureproof

[naive pendant]

Might be waiting a while as there haven’t been that many times without blueprint bugs.

[mystic oriole]

do you guys make blueprints from scratch for each playthrough? or do you carry over your blueprints to the next one

[hard ivy]

I usually make them from scratch. As I play, I upgrade the belts in them, so I wouldn't even be able to paste a blueprint with mk6 belts in a world where I'm in Tier 5

Besides, I sometimes have new ideas

[cedar vault]

How do people usually decide how much oil to use for plastic / rubber vs fuel for generators and packaged fuel?Do most people just get fuel and packaged fuel from residual or have a dedicated setup?

[white dawn]

I just make whatever specific amount of plastic/rubber my production chains require, and then make more once I need more

[mystic oriole]

I usually use one location for power and another location for plastic/rubber production.

[white dawn]

When I'm making fuel I either use the vanilla "Fuel" recipe if I've just unlocked oil, or I find the Diluted Fuel (or Packaged Diluted Fuel) plus Heavy Oil Residue recipes for that

[rapid wren]

i have been playing experimental for the last month,. is it safe to just launch base game and play the same save now?

or does it matter wich client i use?

[mortal ginkgo]

was rather safe for me

[fathom shuttle]

What’s the console command for giving my self items?

[last jungle]

u need advanced game settings

it should be in the ags menu

(also i reccomend having a separate "test save" for ags it ruins ur actual saves)

[fathom shuttle]

Oh ok

[timber shoal]

how do I get the (spoilers?)|| "Are you sure thats coffee?"|| achievement?

[fathom shuttle]

I just want to skip having to collect all the power slugs

[green fiber]

perhaps you simply dread tier 1 - 3.
as in the other games (i believe at least) you can set up automated power pretty quickly
here, you are on bought time until you get to tier 3

[white dawn]

||Buy a coffee cup from the AWESOME shop, equip it in a hand slot, and then "fire" it to take a sip||

[timber shoal]

||does it poison you or something?||

[white dawn]

Nope, it's safe. :)

Just silly

[next umbra]

For me personally I dedicated the excess oil to plastic while the main supplied my 72+ fuel generators. But I also found lower quality oil nodes near my coal plant that I ended up using for my main supply of plastic

[last jungle]

should i make homing rifle ammo or keep using regular?

[next umbra]

Homing is funky to me lol

[white dawn]

Up to you, of course. IMO homing arrow is a great "just keep holding down fire until everything's dead" easymode combat (esp. when combined with jetpack/hoverpack)

If I'm doing a playthrough with combat enabled, I tend to always just keep all ammo types automated regardless of what I'm actually using

You don't need to automate much of ammo to keep ahead of your realistic usage of 'em

[last jungle]

i got 200 smokeless powder cuz i still dont have much of it

fun fact 200 smokeless powder makes 1.5k rifle ammo

i calculated that with my dumb

[white dawn]

I'm rather allergic to handcrafting, so if something I want can be automated, I automate it. :P

[next umbra]

I mean I rarely use guns at all besides fighting certain mob types

[white dawn]

Craft bench makes me feel itchy

[last jungle]

bro does not mine and craft

[cyan garnet]

Enabling AGS disables achievements for that save. If you just want to cheat in slugs to your inventory you can edit your save in SCIM and fill your inventory with whatever you want

[last jungle]

i have 1k rifle ammo in my inventory

[white dawn]

I generally end up enabling peaceful or retaliate mode eventually anyway, even if I start out a playthrough with combat enabled

[last jungle]

anything that i go up against is now a balanced fight

[ivory condor]

Safe depends what you consider safe. I struggled last night to get the game to launch to last night without immediately crashing, so far this is probably one of the most unstable stable branch releases...

[shell grove]

how to avoid the "building can not be nudged" thing? It's kinda half the time in the way

[maiden jacinth]

You waste time building factories too

[earnest ridge]

Funnily, passive and retaliate have the same effect right now
-# 1.1 bugs say hello!

[austere wyvern]

i need customizer zoop soooooo bad lmao

[lyric gyro]

guys i need help

i have 8 coal generators with 37,5 coal/min fuel consumption and 2 rich+1 average coal veins

how do i divide the flow of coal with lvl 2 belts so its distributed evenly

/or fills up the remaining ones easil

[mortal ginkgo]

they reduced that warning in various places but some stuff needs it, its a must for specific moments

[maiden jacinth]

120 coal a minute fuels 8 gens

[shell grove]

is it really a must for the water extractor though when it also has the warning of "resource not deep enough"

[mortal ginkgo]

dont put it in a puddle and yes, water extractor not being nudgable is a thing 😄

[shell grove]

not putting it in a puddle, just like being able to nudge it in the spesific position between clippable object ^^'

[mortal ginkgo]

just teasing ya, alas I know, water extractors are a bane in this game

[lyric gyro]

They're overclocked

so its 300

[maiden jacinth]

If you only have the level 2 belts don't overclock them tbh

[lyric gyro]

But i want to

[shell grove]

I really don't understand why they aren't nudgeable TBH ^^'

[lyric gyro]

Anyway i figured it out

i'll just make it 3-3-2 with one slightly overclocked drill

[mortal ginkgo]

probably water detection mechanic aint playing nice. you will get to know that pipes and fluids are not the best things in this game but you get to live with it 😄

[shell grove]

okay TBH then it might be my fault lol
https://imgur.com/a/3BF71kH

[maiden jacinth]

If you hate pipes enough you can just pack most stuff

[reef sage]

guys, i just got the game. im curious is there a way to snap buildings to grid when building? so i can have it all line up neatly. It bothers me a lot to see it not having a perfect edge to edge. Its just my personal issue LOL

[mortal ginkgo]

kinda you say

[shell grove]

yeah... maybe ever so slightly

[cyan garnet]

Build on foundations

[mortal ginkgo]

you will eventually get foundations, not too far away

for now your best way of handling things is holding CTRL

[tranquil narwhal]

out of curiosity what are yall's fav starting spots and why?

i'm tryna make a new save and am tryna figure it out

[shell grove]

to be fair though with the foundations like this I'm able to place the water extractors but also allows for me to walk there and be able to destroy/place stuff

[maiden jacinth]

Dunes have everything pretty close by early on.

[hard ivy]

anything except the grasslands is good enough for me

[tranquil narwhal]

thats kinda real ngl

[maiden jacinth]

Why does everyone hate grass so much

[tranquil narwhal]

cause the nodes are super spread out, waters semi scarce and can't scale for nothin

[hard ivy]

there's nothing nearby

only iron and copper

[tranquil narwhal]

mhm

i am also side eyeing jungle a little ngl

[maiden jacinth]

Yea true. I started there for 1.1 and it's super annoying not having a quartz node

[tranquil narwhal]

thats also why i dont like rocky spawn ngl

quarts is brutal to get

everything else about is pretty good tho

[hard ivy]

it's in the cave

[tranquil narwhal]

ik

[hard ivy]

not that bad if you pull a lift through terrain lol
just gotta go there once

[tranquil narwhal]

stilla pain to hike over there

[tranquil narwhal]

;-;

i mean true but i don't like to abuse terrain glitches if i can

[maiden jacinth]

I'm thinking of picking a new spot and building a new factory after I get my turbo fuel generator setup

[pliant prawn]

I think it's awesome that some folks even thought of the terrain clip elevator trick. I don't think I'd have come up with that.

[tranquil narwhal]

oh you do mega factories i assume them?

[tranquil narwhal]

i mean its just plain faster than piping it all the way around otherwise lol

[hard ivy]

Took me a while to figure that out. I originally just put 2 constructors down there, powered with biomass burners and DD'd the crystals and silica out of there. Only used a lift when I needed it for a factory

[pliant prawn]

Might I recommend Paradise Island, near the grass lands? They removed the death zone, so it's fully open, and I haven't seen many builds there

[maiden jacinth]

Idk. I'm just in phase 3 of the elevator

[reef sage]

ahh ok

[reef sage]

i did that. i see no difference XD

[tranquil narwhal]

well i'd figure it out soon them lol

[mortal ginkgo]

endure abit until you can put foundations

[tranquil narwhal]

otherwise you'll have to tear a lot up

[pliant prawn]

Oh for sure. I just hadn't really realized that a lift with the floor holes trick would actually work "out of bounds" it's a brilliant move and kinda sweet looking

[pliant prawn]

I did similar, I made just a rough mine thing to the exit and tried to make it pretty from there when it's come up

[maiden jacinth]

I like the idea of mega factories

[pliant prawn]

Needed a canary for some of those lol. The Grasslands sam site is way down there

[tranquil narwhal]

it just depends on how you set up each stage and logistics honestly

i do a mega factory for more complex assembly but i localise more easy stuff like frames and rotors and transport them to the main hub

[quasi locust]

can i join someone?

[tranquil narwhal]

#1201555265942724758

[quasi locust]

any server accepting guests?

[maiden jacinth]

Icic

[tranquil narwhal]

It’s a good excuse to use trains 😂

[wanton stag]

Today i learned that residual radiation exists

and now my train station is soaked in it

[hard ivy]

it doesn't

unless something glitched

[wanton stag]

well my train station is completely empty, no uranium is here, and yet the whole station is radioactive still

like its hyperlocalized

[cyan garnet]

Do you have something radioactive in your inventory?

Try a save and reload

[lucid pagoda]

Check for everything, dismantle crates, the odd bit on the ground, a conveyor with some on it, there’s gotta be somethin

[wanton stag]

no it was just the entire area that the uranium went on, but if you stepped like not even a half an inch away it just vanished

i reloaded and it just left

idk why or how it just felt like it ig?

[naive pendant]

@wanton stag There have been similar bugs with radioactive items in inventory for a long time. Not surprising.

If you’re doing radioactive stuff you want automated filters regardless. So probs a lot of people don’t even notice those kinds of bugs.

[cyan garnet]

Yeah, once I start doing nuclear I always have a stack or two of iodine filters in inventory and have them automated to dimensional depot so I don’t really even notice it much

[wanton stag]

i dont have it automated but i have a ton

[maiden jacinth]

Automated filters is the alt recepie

[last jungle]

does anybody else get annoyed at the new autosave and epilepsy warnings when loading the game

[lusty pollen]

theres a mod to remove these

[last jungle]

i dont want mod

i dont know how to install mods

[lusty pollen]

its very easy

[maiden jacinth]

No. Idk why I would

[cyan garnet]

5/minute is the max consumption rate for iodine filters at max radiation so that’s all you need to target for production

[cyan garnet]

You’re thinking of automated miners. Theres only one recipe for gas filter and one recipe for iodine filters (which use gas filters as an ingredient)

[shy locust]

@azure field that work you're doing is unreal, given me huge inspo for a byron bay style highrise factory along the west coast now

[jaunty fossil]

Satisfactory 1.0 worked great since release. 1.1 is a mess that obviously needed more time in testing and its everybody else's fault that it is broken for a lot of ppl. My other 33 games are running just fine. I refuse to spend hours tinkering with software that doesn't seem to fix anything looking at the text channels. 🤨 On the flip side Foundry running great.

[shy locust]

1.1 is working just fine for me 🤷‍♂️ even through experimental it was happy

[junior laurel]

Its everybody else's fault
Wow

[mortal ginkgo]

1.1 did not break anything that 1.0 has. It all still works great for me. To be honest 1.1 could only have infinite nudge and it would still be worth to update.

Yes, its some new features really needed cooking and hardly satisfactory, especially the vertical splitters but other than that it is a massive improvement.

[lime ermine]

What's wrong with it I've played it since day 1 of experimental and haven't had a single problem

[cyan garnet]

Sir, this is a Wendy’s

[mortal ginkgo]

this chuckled me thanks lol

[ivory condor]

That is factually incorrect. I have actually documented saves with performance regression that I have tested that is not present in 1.0, performance optimization is broken with 1.1, among other things.

[junior laurel]

I've found a handful of issues in 1.1 exp like 2 months ago, I reported them and they were fixed.
Because that is what exp is for.. I have heard quite a few people say they have gained around 10% on frames
performance has increased for most

[mortal ginkgo]

games performance was borked before 1.1 . I still cant play 4+ hours before 1.1 changes.

I am not saying the guy is wrong.

I just dont think its a total mess.

[ivory condor]

It was borked before, now its borderline broken/unplayable depending on your system, that is actual regression

[junior laurel]

Then report it on the QA site

[ivory condor]

So its gone from borked, to even worse...

[white dawn]

Yeah, it sucks when you're the one who's hit with the edge cases which cause problems on updates, and it's understandable to be upset by that

But Experimental has largely been quite good, and I think for most it's been a good time

[junior laurel]

Nothing said here will be seen by the team unless they are actively reading and that does not happen often

[ivory condor]

Upset, for sure, not to mention I even struggled last night to even make it to the games main menu without the game immediately crashing many times because of how inherently broken 1.1 currently is

[junior laurel]

You can't say "inherently"

Because most people say it's fine.

[lime ermine]

That's rough man hope it gets fixed

[junior laurel]

Just because you're in the like 1% of people that this regression has effected does not make it inherently

[ivory condor]

I have heard that before, meanwhile I can even look at questions and help section see how all of the people making posts and asking for help just to get the game to even run

So I know for fact my experience is not a isolated case, as your trying to paint it

[junior laurel]

Vocal minority

[ivory condor]

I have heard that before, and its a weak argument at best

[junior laurel]

Have you reported it on the QA site?

[ivory condor]

Of course, these issues have been present since 1.0 and still aren't fixed.

I even raised my previous qa posts about it, but thats about all I can do, the engine is clearly inherently broken in many ways and I'm not sure if I can be optimistic any of this will be fixed, but for what its worth I did raise my previous qa posts from last year about it

[junior laurel]

How many people have replied to your post?

[mystic wedge]

I'm dumb, seems like the hold to zipline enabled and not enabled feel the same?

[maiden jacinth]

Actually I think I'm thinking of synth fabric

[last jungle]

guys does anyone other than me use quick search

cuz its really good

[cursive heron]

New player here. Made my first blueprint ever all by myself. It's a 2-floor smelting factory with 16 smelters with nice walls, lights, glass roof, display panels, speed panels, windows, fans, etc, u get it, I spent the whole day on it.

I save it, I create a new category + sub category for it, I move it there, I save again, and I clear the BPD before hopping away to test it in the wild.
I open the BP menu, and it's not there...

Category + sub category is there tho, just nothing inside

[spice patio]

You probably have Session Name that isn't valid Windows directory name.
Esc, Manage Session, Session Settings.
Change Session Name and hit Apply.

Cannot start or end with space or . (period)
Cannot contain any of: \ / : * ? " < > | '
(Last one for game code bug reasons)

This is game code bug, but for now to bypass you need to change the session name.
And the game possibly has a bug where it adds extra space at the end of session name for some people when the world is first created.

[cursive heron]

I just checked and it's called "My First World"

Doesn't seem to be the reason

Also, I already have a blueprints folder since I loaded one from online, so it confirms my session name is fine

[spice patio]

Are the autosaves: "My First World_autosave" or "My First World _autosave"?

And have you checked it isn't just in another category?

[granite pasture]

with the splitter or merger can I say how much on the what conveyor?

[cursive heron]

The first one, without space

[spice patio]

Ok, then I was wrong.

[cursive heron]

And I don't have any other category except Undefined

so yh it's just poof after hours of work

[spice patio]

Never clear the BP designer until you have tested the saved BP.

[cursive heron]

ironically when u mentioned autosaves, I directly went to load the oldest one but rip, like 30 sec after I cleared the BPD

[west jackal]

Im telling you, the only solution is to have the generators above the fuel containment, use a switch to turn the pump on and off and that way when the pump is off it acts like a valve, and when you turn it on it can pump the fuel. That being said, you need a way to power the pump if your main grid is broken down, so power storage buildings may be ideal

[fathom shuttle]

Is drop pod loot all the same or does it change

I need 50 circuit boards for the production amplifier

Also DLSS ghosting is kinda annoying

I’m guessing GI also introduces some noise too

[clever pier]

alright 50GW of power generation achieved

now I can actually run my entire factory and sink everything to get that sweet sweet golden nut

[trim vine]

Each location has a variety of loot

If you are needing specific stuff, and you dont mind spoling it for yourself, you can google loot at drop locations and target them

[fathom shuttle]

I’m asking if it’s randomly generated or not

[vestal mica]

it's not

[fathom shuttle]

Is it the same world to world

[vestal mica]

it's the same

[trim vine]

If you are able to google specific loot at each drop pod location, then no, its not

[clever pier]

generally as you gop further from the grass lands east and north you get better stuff from the crashed pods

[last jungle]

can chainsaw use packaged fuel?

[clever pier]

including stuff like crystal oscillators , cooling systems, supercomputers

[trim vine]

Unless it has changed in 1.1, chainsaws only run on solid biofuel

[last jungle]

bruh

[clever pier]

which is weird

seeing as everything else can run on multiple fuel types

[vestal mica]

what, you don't use fireplace logs to run your chainsaw at home?

[trim vine]

Agreed, silly, however, you should have an "automated" biofuel set up to some degree, both to supply solid biofuel and to supply liquid biofuel for the ||Jetpack||

[clever pier]

including drones being able to magically use uranium rods and not generate any waste

[leaden turret]

my brain: gastro-intestinal?
my memory: global illumination, fool

[steady edge]

sup guys, posted a question in #1383155060346720419 in anyone's available :)

[last jungle]

i have the jetpack rn, oil plant and everything

so i made some packaged fuel

[clever pier]

illuminate your gastral intestines?

[last jungle]

wow this is nice

[trim vine]

Got you

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll probably start thinking this way too, med school start in 2 1/2 months

[leaden turret]

"satisfactory has GI bugs"

gives everyone the mental image of ||satisfactory on the toilet with the squits||

[trim vine]

Packaged fuel is absolute asscheeks for the jetpack

Each fuel type offers different thrust and duration on the jetpack

Solid biofuel is the worse, fuel isnt much better

Liquid biofuel burns forever, but low thrust

Turbofuel and up has quick burn and high thrust

[fathom shuttle]

Type of shit I’ll get first day at the hospital

[last jungle]

"packaged fuel is ass" i want to fly idc

[vestal mica]

you can make liquid biofuel

[last jungle]

this is fun anyways

[vestal mica]

it's about 1 jillino times better

roughly

[last jungle]

bro my oil plant is in a biome with like 3 living things that arent hostile

[vestal mica]

you just need some bio and some water and a stack of canisters

it lasts a while

[fathom shuttle]

So if I’m building a second floor of a factory I don’t need to build walls all around right

[vestal mica]

gravity is optional in this game

[last jungle]

i choose to obey gravity

because it is optional

[fathom shuttle]

I’m concerned that once I build walls I’ll need to install lights or something stupid like that

[clever pier]

yeah I place enough frame foundations to make things look realistic

support columns

[vestal mica]

oh, it does get darker in an enclosed factory. not like pitch black but yeah

[trim vine]

I'm not saying its not good to start just to get in the air

I am suggesting you try the different fuel types, from solid biofuel to Ionized fuel to see what you like best

My preference is Liquid Biofuel for both factory and explortion, and I keep Rocket Fuel on me to quickly scale shit if needed

[clever pier]

I don't put walls on my factories except for special ones

[last jungle]

the only fuel types i have available is biomass and basic fuel

[trim vine]

Until you get the ||Hover Pack|| of course

[clever pier]

open to the sides

[last jungle]

im broke asf

[fathom shuttle]

Meh I’m not going to, I’ll probably be tearing this one down anyway

[trim vine]

If you can make biomass, you can make liquid biomass in a refinery, using solid biofuel and water

[clever pier]

once you unlock it from a hard drive

[trim vine]

which is then packaged in a packager with containers

[trim vine]

I do not believe you need to unlock liquid biofuel, though I may be wrong

[last jungle]

wait i wanna know whats the thrust difference between basic fuel and liquid bio

[clever pier]

oh wait liquid biofuel is a MAM unlock

not hard drive

[trim vine]

Thrust is the same, duration is about x10 longer

[last jungle]

no i think its a milestone

[trim vine]

Ahhh, if thats the case, apologies, but it should be easy

[last jungle]

like oil processing or some shi on t5

[trim vine]

Setting up an "automated" solid and liquid biofuel set up is super easy and should be done soon, and hooked up to dimensional depots so you can access it anywhere, cause you never need mass amounts

[last jungle]

i think im gonna use basic fuel for now

ok

wait this lowkey doesnt need like oil or smth

only empty containers ig

[trim vine]

Correct

Grab an Industrial Storage Crate of plastic and connect it to a constructor going directly to a packager, it will last you for a long, long time

The whole set up takes 5 ISC, 4 constructors, a refinery, a packager, and a water extractor

And obviously 2 dimensional depots for solid biofuel (for chainsaw) and another for the liquid biofuel

and you just drop off leaves and wood every so often to the upstream ISC

[last jungle]

#screenshots this wont be easy

[trim vine]

That link isnt taking me to something you posted for some reason

[last jungle]

idk

i have like no tech knowledge but basically my base is very far

[trim vine]

ahh, I had to scroll down, it wasnt your post just screenshots

What is the problem?

[last jungle]

cuz idk how to do the precise link thing

so basically idk how to do that (for me) long distance

without having to go every like 1hr

[trim vine]

For the future, mouse over your post, click the 3 dots, and click copy message link

[last jungle]

oh ok

thx

[trim vine]

So, I will tell you this, as a newer player, build near your liquids, build on foundations.

Trying to move Liquids across vast distances is very doable and "easy", but if you are newer to liquids, there is a slight learning curve, but its not hard if you have intuitive knowledge with how liquids move and such

As for how to get over there....

Hypertubes, Hypertube Cannons, trains, walkways, blade runners

[lucid pagoda]

the beans are laughing at my factory 😔

[dusk crater]

Is there a 196m limit on elevator/lift height?

We need an elevator update
Emergency stop button
Longer elevators
that's basically it but those are big deals in the elevator community

[mortal ginkgo]

Yes. It will always be the highest limit. I mean, if you REALLY want to go so far on verticality, you eventually reach the game limits. Also devs said 196m will be max, always.

Unsure about emergency but yeah, misclicking could be prevented that way. But then if you misclicked the 196m floor, just enjoy the right? 😛

[marble fractal]

Is the higher conveyer belt mk 5?

[maiden jacinth]

Get the explorer

[mortal ginkgo]

mk6

[marble fractal]

Actually?

[trim vine]

why would he lie?

[mortal ginkgo]

I would not lie to a can of pepsi

[marble fractal]

That seems insane mk 5 is 780 per minute

How fast could it possible go

[arctic cedar]

which calculater are you using for production rate calculations

[trim vine]

1200 to allow for 100% utilization of pure node with mk3 miners

[mortal ginkgo]

pure mk3 miner with overclock can give you 1200

[urban root]

1200 for mk6 which matches a miner as stated by leon

[clever pier]

my aluminium factory needs mk6 belts to equal the output from a single refinery when its max overclocked and slooped

[marble fractal]

I just mad mad it to tier 7 and 8 and that took me forever

[trim vine]

🙂

[marble fractal]

Is nuclear power worth it if I already have 16 gw

[urban root]

Only for fun. Rocket fuel all the way.

[wicked jungle]

INFINITE POWER

[trim vine]

if you think its worth it, then it is

This game is about doing what you want

[clever pier]

it depends if you want to sink everything for tickets to get the golden nut

you can easily finish the project assembly with 10GW if you let factories go idle when they fill storage

[marble fractal]

Awesome

[mortal ginkgo]

Some mad lads will tell you "bro nuclear power is like hard to setup like bro omg bro like bro go rocket fuel gen bro like omg bro its so fun to put 3940583049583094589038450934503 fuel gens bro I love it bro you gonna love it bro"

Don't listen to mad lads. Go nuclear.

[clever pier]

insert why not both meme?

I have 30 fuel gens on rocket fuel , 6 uranium gens and 1 plutonium

[mortal ginkgo]

no. yolo nuclear.

[clever pier]

giving me 51 jigawatts

[mortal ginkgo]

jigglewatts

[trim vine]

51 jigggleywatts!?

[clever pier]

(with 6 alien augmenters)

[mortal ginkgo]

yes pls

I like jiggly things

[marble fractal]

This game is so time consuming

[trim vine]

-stares in factory sims-

[marble fractal]

I’m gonna have to rebuild soon too because my machines are running at 9% efficiency

[junior laurel]

My current ETA of my project's complection is around 1000 hours

I might ask CoffeeStain for some money for making promo material 💀

[trim vine]

I always say, do whatever you want in this game, build however you want, spaghetti to your hearts content, but always have things balanced.....

Machines should always be at 100%

[frail sleet]

There's a huge spectrum for power.

This is Plutonium rods with the "proper" recipies https://i.imgur.com/xOH6K2U.png

and this is rocket fuel with the simplest power recipe https://i.imgur.com/0785LJ1.png

both make ~200 GW net.

Putting down generators is not exactly hard when you can blueprint 2-4 of them together and manifold 50-150 per pipe.

You can make plutonium easier, and you can make rocket fuel harder and you can go either way, but nuclear is not super easy and fast no matter what. Uranium waste sucks. Plutonium waste is complex.

[marble fractal]

My factory is absolutely spaghetti, I don’t even know how long it would take to remove it all

[clever pier]

if you don't care about factory aesthetics and just rush all the goals you can complete it in 40 hours which is pretty similar to a lot of AAA games and thats not using speedrunner tricks

[trim vine]

SCIM baby

[mortal ginkgo]

how many fuel gens it needs to be used fully?

[junior laurel]

The nuclear SCIM option [DELETE ALL]

[marble fractal]

I don’t even know where that is

[clever pier]

200GW is ridiculous overkill

[frail sleet]

300 on 6 pipes

[frail sleet]

the amount of steps and the amount of different resources used is the same no matter if it's 20gw or 200gw, so making 5x bigger is only like 1.5x as hard

if you are making less power though you can choose some recipies differently and make it as simple build-wise as possible

while those recipies are not very good if you want to make 2000 gw

[junior laurel]

Overkill is underrated

[marble fractal]

Is 33k points per minute good for the sink?

[clever pier]

50GW is enough to be making every single part continuously and sinking them all including elevator parts at like 5 a minute for the high end parts

[frail sleet]

i exceeded 100gw on my first playthrough, factor 2 overkill is fine with me 😄

factor 10, no

[clever pier]

ticket cost goes up exponentially

[frail sleet]

it is A LOT easier and faster if you can oversloop things like nuclear pasta - and the only really good reason for not doing that is that your powergrid will pop.

5 per min is not a lot when you need a few thousand pastas.

insert IT'S MY PASTA AND I WANT IT NOW meme

[clever pier]

eventually a million points a minute barely gets you any tickets

[frail sleet]

you need around 2-5 million per minute to get everything in the shop including the trophies in a reasonable amount of time, eventually (talking like 100 hour timescale rather than 1000 hours)

but 33k points per min is loads for earlygame.

[lucid pagoda]

why do billboards cost so much 😭 ive hand crafted 100s of crystal oscillators

[junior laurel]

According to doodles I am planning for 5011600

[slate magnet]

you gotta pump those numbers up

just add 3 zeroes and it should be fine

[dreamy kestrel]

automate them

[lucid pagoda]

i dont have manufacturers yet, i needa automate oil , i wanna finish this factory first

[clever pier]

so place the signs later

once you have automated oscillators

[lucid pagoda]

mayhaps, im nearly done, im just annoyed by how much billboard cost, 5 oscillators per billboard is wild to me

ive build like, 80 billboards

with roughly 10 left

[frail sleet]

The point is kinda that you have a bad time handcrafting everything that you're using and you don't when automating, so it drives the core gameplay loop

if you don't have em automated just automate them or use them later

[clever pier]

you can always use the smaller signs that don't need oscillators

[frail sleet]

especially billboards which are huge

[lucid pagoda]

im not really usin em to label, just makin glowing walls

[clever pier]

oh... then seriouslty just add them later

[lucid pagoda]

yea, im goin to automate oil rn so i can get all that started

[maiden jacinth]

Tap space and Alt tab

It'll keep crafting

[trim vine]

automate it!

[lucid pagoda]

ik, thats saved me too, ive watched half of deadpool either waiting for my manifolds or crafting

[frail sleet]

you're playing the game wrong if you're afk for more than a few minutes

[lucid pagoda]

im not, thats over the past week

[fiery garden]

sometimes i need to eat

[frail sleet]

that's fine, there is just always stuff to do 😄

[clever pier]

I just realised I'm making 1.5 pu rods a minute, enough to power 15 nuclear plants and I only have one burning pu rods.

[fiery garden]

uh oh

[lucid pagoda]

sounds like a future problem

[clever pier]

I'm gonna build a fisconsium plant... yes I know its not worth it

i mean I could sink the excess rods but nope

[junior laurel]

At that point it's not about power.
It's about making a point!

I say that with 112 Ficsonium/m rods planned

[white dawn]

Ficsonium's 100% worth it if you want to take advantage of Plutonium (who doesn't?) and still want "clean" nuclear. :)

[hard ivy]

Meanwhile, I spent several dozen hours making a mod to make it about power. I think I have moderately succeeded

[white dawn]

(also it's more factory to build, so win-win!)

[junior laurel]

I'm content with my vanilla ice cream

[junior laurel]

I also plan for 8 activated APA
Not about power.
It's about the build

[hard ivy]

I think I'd ask who does want to use Plutonium if it means having to make Ficsonium. Purely from a power production standpoint, it makes 0 sense

[hard ivy]

have you checked if there's enough SAM for that?

[white dawn]

Doing Plutonium doesn't mean having to make Ficsonium, though.

[junior laurel]

yes

[white dawn]

Ficsonium's just for if you also want clean nuclear power, while also taking advantage of Plutonium

[junior laurel]

After all the things I still have 88.33 reanimated/m overflow

[white dawn]

(And also to have moar things to produce)

[vestal mica]

and it's still a massive power gain over just throwing away the plutonium

[clever pier]

making ficsonium uses a lot of stuff you need to automate anyway for final tier elevator parts so if you also use those factories for ficsonium its not that much extra

[junior laurel]

SAM is the only thing in my plan I have actually built (mostly) so I know I am making enough of that ;-;

[white dawn]

But Plutonium Waste storage is a total non-problem, so if you don't mind a mild bit of radiation happening in a corner of the map, there's no need to bother with Ficsonium (if you don't want to)

[junior laurel]

I'm not building this for clean energy. I am doing this so I can make a IKEA show room and have IKEA lamps go through it before being turned into Ficsonium rods

[vestal mica]

ikeant believe it

[junior laurel]

224 IKEA lamps through the show room a min. A lot of orders of this lamp lads

[peak wasp]

I mean a pump is like 50mw right? And only needs a battery large enough to feed fluid upwards

[hard ivy]

oh wow it actually is just barely possible
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=w6FdJbHs9hiIqczcGBgF
really didn't think so

[teal horizon]

has anyone noticed that the more you slide jump the faster farther you go

[junior laurel]

haha yeah, I'm slooping 23 of the 34 reanimation constructors, plus the 80 that is every single sloop accounted for.

[junior laurel]

yes

[frail sleet]

it's a 1.1 bug

[junior laurel]

Feature

It's a test of skill

[teal horizon]

i beg they never fix it

[maiden jacinth]

there is actually

the power switch

[junior laurel]

Yeah planning everything is taking an eternity but my ADHD will thank the tism later 😅

[maiden jacinth]

ah, in that case you should really stop planning and start working on it

[keen nymph]

just me or fart rocks not showing gas on dedicated server

[teal horizon]

every so often it crashes the game saying in the report "GPU Crash dump triggered"?

[junior laurel]

Why? I need to make sure everything will work

[leaden ether]

The best laid plans of mice and Engineers...

[junior laurel]

With builds like this #design-and-architecture message
yeah I wanna make sure nothing can go wrong

[steady glade]

how do i make blueprints autoconnect?

#screenshots message

[prime crane]

When you make the build in the blue print you first need to add a belt to the output or input.

Then you bring the premade build next to another input/output and it should auto connect

[hollow vector]

is killing the ficsit ceo a crime

[steady glade]

does it make that belt/pipe into a single section?

[junior laurel]

This wasn't built by FICSIT... This was already here when we landed.

[hollow vector]

ok what about using an ar15 to graze your ear?

[junior laurel]

This is a lore build, the [Entity] built it

[hollow vector]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1259597582062059653/1359571187373445263/togif-1-1.gif

[prime crane]

To be honest I don't really know. I haven't used this feature yet. It's better to watch an tutorial explaining how to use them.

[junior laurel]

I am 1 of like 6 people who give a shit about the lore.
So I'mma go hard on a build for it

[prime crane]

It's easier to understand too.

[brittle snow]

on satisfactory tools website, how come i can't get a production line for "rocket fuel" ??

[hard ivy]

you need to turn on the appropriate alts

or just all of them

[teal horizon]

??

[brittle snow]

the default recipe is enabled though

[hard ivy]

turbofuel and compacted coal are alts

[brittle snow]

oh thanks

[prime crane]

Can you use rocket fuel for fuel gens?

[ivory condor]

Not many, why, one of the devs also replied but not much seems to have come from that qa post, but not much I can do besides dumping up the previous qa posts, anyways much like 1.0 im just leaving these features turned off, its the best I can do to try to improve stability

[vestal mica]

yar

[prime crane]

Are they recommended or they are just a big headache without a really big difference from turbofuel

[vestal mica]

it's all subjective, but rocket fuel is generally considered one of the best power sources

[hard ivy]

i'd say it's turbofuel that I would not recommend making

[vestal mica]

yeah, i skip turbo. fuel plant to rocket fuel plant to nuclear

[prime crane]

Too late ☹️

[white dawn]

Turbofuel's a fine power source so long as you've got the spare coal+sulfur handy to augment the oil

But yeah, Rocket Fuel goes a long way; its direct competitor is Uranium nuclear

It's a simpler production chain than Uranium power, with a tradeoff that you've gotta build 10x the gens for the same power output (plus some folks might not like having to deal with pipes/fluids, though that's personal preference)

[vestal mica]

first time I made it, i didn't realize it was a gas

[clever pier]

imo rocket fuel is 100 percent worth it

[vestal mica]

"how are these fuel generators getting power before i have the pumps on here?"

[white dawn]

heh, yeah, being a gas is nice, for sure

[vestal mica]

quickly turned into, oh shit, i don't need pumps. make this taller, not wider

[clever pier]

but its not like rocket fuel or nuclear... its like "why not both?"

[white dawn]

But yeah, Rocket Fuel power's definitely a fun buildout. I still prefer nuclear for bigger power scaling, but RF competes quite well if you don't mind the generator spam

And yeah, by the time I wrapped up my 1.0 save I had decent-sized RF and nuclear power gens going. :)

[mighty zinc]

why are my messages being ignored?

I post messages in screenshots but messages are not coming up

[vestal mica]

like plain text? think you have to have an image in the messsge to post anything in there

[mighty zinc]

ah

[white dawn]

If you've got a question about something which requires images and such to answer, #1038092680493801533 is often your best bet. Depending on your specific question, #math-and-meta or #design-and-architecture could be appropriate too

[mighty zinc]

I see

anyway I was wondering if the cat ears helmet was modded or in game vanilla

[white dawn]

In-game vanilla

[mighty zinc]

👀

[white dawn]

New in 1.1, I believe (which just released into mainline this week)

[mighty zinc]

I want it. I want to find it myself, but I want it

[vestal mica]

you have to get like level 2 onboarding. you can do it

[white dawn]

Yeah, I think it's just available as soon as you have access to the customization locker, which should be during the tutorial section

[mighty zinc]

...oh

[teal geyser]

You would still have to pipe water to the Nuclear Power Plants though

[white dawn]

Yeah, though I always just put my NPPs literally right next to (or on top of) the extractors, which makes for as close to a potential-problem-free piping solution as is possible

Nice short dedicated pipes for each plant

[teal geyser]

Oh ok

[white dawn]

But granted, if you're doing a huge ol' pipeline bundle then you'd have pipes/fluids to deal with in nuclear too; that is true. :D

So I'll submit a partial retraction to that statement. :)

I've done my time with nuclear water-pipe bundles in the past, too. Just forgot that many folks probably still do that

[torn tartan]

In a big factory if all items are equall, do you still need to balance belts ? or will it eventually before efficent within a few hours ?

[lyric gyro]

second

[white dawn]

Not quite sure exactly what you're asking, but if I'm interpreting it correctly: things should even out automatically eventually, so long as the input/output numbers all match up properly

With in a single group of machines in a factory, it's generally referred to as a "Manifold," and most players end up gravitating towards building those eventually

!wikisearch manifold

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=manifold

[white dawn]

You don't have to do a "pure" manifold like that if you don't want to; like you could still sort-of load balance but sort of wave your hands at the fine details; if it's not perfectly load-balanced, the lanes getting "too much" material will eventually back up and the system will self-stabilize anyway

But manifolds are super easy to plug into blueprints, and using them means that you don't have to do any mental gymnastics to try and figure out a load-balancing arrangement; you just make sure that the amount on the belt is the amount that the machines need, and things just (eventually) work great

The main downside is that if you don't pre-fill the machines' input buffers, it can sometimes take awhile for the manifold to fully warm up and reach 100% efficiency (whereas a "perfectly" balanced input method would let things run immediately), though that can be addressed by pre-filling those buffers, if you want

[torn tartan]

Yea thank you

Lot of help

so much to this game hahah

[white dawn]

heh, yeah, it's a lot to get your head around

[torn tartan]

I already have 200 hours but just getting back into it again

[white dawn]

Just remember that so long as you're having fun, you're playing it correctly. :)

[torn tartan]

yessir

[shell zodiac]

does the game have some sort of a performance stats thing onscreen

[torn tartan]

I like to play it and watch shit

[shell zodiac]

or do i have to find something 3rd party

[white dawn]

You can open the console with backtick/tilde (by default) and do show fps stat fps (edit: oops) if nothing else

I think there's some other UE-standard status commands you can run

If you google UE5 console commands, I believe everything's available to you

[broken thorn]

I just realized I need 1600 nitrogen p/m and I only have 1500 in the blue crater

[white dawn]

Oh, it's stat fps, not show fps, sorry. :D

[hard ivy]

per minute is /min. p/m would be points per meter in in-game units

[broken thorn]

couldn't it be parts / minute too?

well either way everyone understands is so 👍🏻

[white dawn]

Mm, coupon-producing density!

[broken thorn]

yeah I didn't really understand what he meant by points per meter

lol

[white dawn]

To be fair, IMO it's pretty clear what was meant in context. :)

[hard ivy]

m is a meter, and min is a minute. never anything else. and the sink measures points per minute in p/min so p is points in the game. so p/m is points per meter

[broken thorn]

ah

I feel dum now

🐟

[white dawn]

Awhile ago I'd been curious how many items could be held in a belt that was hugging the death border around the map, with an eye to using such a thing as nuclear waste "storage;" turns out that for a 500-stack item like nuclear waste it was a bit less than a single ISC. Would need a lot of loops!

(That was pre-1.0; the border was changed a bit with 1.0 so perhaps it's slightly different now)

[tall root]

Is anyone aware of whether the same limitations that mean no pc/console crossplay will also mean no dedi access for consoles?

[white dawn]

Ah, interesting; didn't know if they'd definitively said that wasn't happening, but I see that it's not (https://archive.satisfactory.video/topics/features/multiplayer/crossplay/)

[tall root]

Yep, I just came from that clip myself

[white dawn]

Would be nice if they figured out a way to provide a console-compatible dedicated server package

[tall root]

I would certainly hope so

I understand the argument they gave for technical reasons but I don't neccecarily agree with it

The release cadence on stable has been ~ twice a year for a very long time now, which is very doable on console

[elder apex]

isn't the problem the console side, in that the consoles are setup to be in walled gardens specifically to limit their ability to interact with things outside the manufacturers environment?

[tall root]

Nope

Or rather, not entirely

There are some complications, and sony especially tries to keep people within their ecosystem

However, there are lots of games with crossplay between all three major platforms

Sony specifically dissalows cross-save, they prevent games from offering any functionality to transfer an account to another platform in some cases(not all)

[elder apex]

Ok, good to know. My knowledge of consoles is pretty much limited to what I read in passing

[tall root]

👍

Yup
Some other CSP titles have crossplay, ex DRG supports xbox-pc crossplay.

Their solution to that problem was to publish a pc version in the xbox store that has console crossplay and a steam version without it.

[shell grove]

anyone else sometimes just trying to summon their inner Italian for all the spaghetti going on?

[tall root]

@void gorge do you have info on that handy?

[candid path]

Hey my friend switched over to controller inputs instead of mouse now it is not responsive to controller or mouse and keyboard has there been any solutions

[tall root]

Wait for an autosave and restart the game, see where that gets you

[candid path]

Ok

[shell zodiac]

and is there a similar command for ping?

[sly shoal]

Since the 1.1 update I can't get my game to open, it crashes every time I try to open it in steam. Is this just a me problem?

[reef basin]

what is the error message? share it in #1038092680493801533

[sly shoal]

there is none

it just stops and goes back to having a green "play" button

[white dawn]

No clue, sorry

Though as I say, I think it's just a standard UE5 console, so there's probably a lot of docs online for what commands are available in there

[sly shoal]

I just found the the thread in #1038092680493801533 that sounds like my problem, trying those solves now

[viral tendon]

I don't have problem but I want to ask question about one thing, cab I ask it here?

[urban root]

Is related to the game

[viral tendon]

Ye

[urban root]

This is the satisfactory chat. Send it

[slow fern]

Anybody able to use a wireless ps4 controller? It connects and works fine when wired and the controller is connected to my pc cause I can get in and out with steam big picture but if I go unwired I get nothing in-game.

[viral tendon]

So uh, I got 2 oil extractors can I connect them with pipe splitter and still have the same amount of oil? I will have to transfer that oil for a long distance

Kinda dumb questiong but I need to know

[urban root]

Pipes like belts can only move so much volume. Make sure if you do connect them with a splitter the pipe can handle the amount of oil you're trying to put into it.

[viral tendon]

So if I connect both oil pipes and then split them at the end the result will be the same?

Ion get it

Cuz it's like 1 pipe and not 2

[dreamy kestrel]

a pipe can only transport a certain amount of fluid

the fluid doesnt magically teleport to the end of the pipeline, it has to move through the pipes

how much oil are your extractors outputting?

[urban root]

A mk1 pipe can transport 300m³ a mk2 can do 600m³

[lusty pollen]

m^3 not mm^3

[dreamy kestrel]

mm³ lol

[viral tendon]

360m³ together

[dreamy kestrel]

then mk2 pipes could handle it, mk1 cannot

[urban root]

^ yes I'm doing too much on the phone at work lol

[viral tendon]

Millimeters

[dreamy kestrel]

if you wanted to transport that with mk1 pipes itd have to be separate

like two separate pipelines

[viral tendon]

Alr

[dreamy kestrel]

otherwise theyd be bottlenecked

but a single mk2 pipeline would work fine

[viral tendon]

So unfortunately closest raw oil thingies are like 2k meters away from my base

[leaden bone]

i just wanted to ask are the new elevators from a certain tier and its a bit later on or is it fairly easy to obtain from like the awesome shop?

i hate ladders, would love the elevator asap

[viral tendon]

Its so hard to do the piping far away my goodness

I can't get it past 5th pipe

[dreamy kestrel]

if you have blueprints, they make long-distance piping much easier

thanks to autoconnection

[viral tendon]

I do have them unlocked but I have no idea how

[dreamy kestrel]

10 coupons in the awesome shop i think

[leaden bone]

thank goodness ty

[dreamy kestrel]

i think they also require having silica researched in the MAM

because they use it as a material

[viral tendon]

Bro how td do I even transfer oil

Far away

It doesn't even work normall

[dreamy kestrel]

if you cant make pipes work, you can package-unpackage and belt it, or use fluid trains

[leaden bone]

oh dam

welp guess ima go find it

[viral tendon]

Tf are fluid trains

[glossy iris]

my luck with hdds has been crazy. First hdd I find on my outing has encased pipe

[dreamy kestrel]

trains with fluid cars

[viral tendon]

Bold of you assume I have trains while I can't do piping

[dreamy kestrel]

im not sure why youre transferring oil long distances in the first place?

is there a reason you cant build your factory next to the extractors

[viral tendon]

Well that's an interesting question

[dreamy kestrel]

when i unlock plastic/rubber i always make a tiny refinery setup right on a node in a random place and just feed them into dimensioanl depots

and its enough to hold me over until i want to properly scale up

[cyan garnet]

Don’t do long distance pipes then. Process fluids on-site and move solids instead

[urban root]

Add pumps. Press h once the hologram is on the pipe and it will show you how far the pump works with a little animation that goes down the pipe

[fading whale]

So just loaded up the game after waiting a month for 1.1 as I was getting ready to build tons of pipes. I have a simple blueprint with a row of pipe supports. But no matter what I try, I cannot get them to autoconnect.
And yes. I have selected "Build mode: Auto-connect"
What the prerequisites for Auto-connect to work?

[urban root]

Add pipes to the supports

[versed latch]

Are there any fluid nerds out here familiar with the Head Lift Reset recycling technique? If so, can you tell how this one is failing due to water clogging?
btw the pump under the vertical mk4 belt IS unpowered.
#screenshots message

[fading whale]

I have build one blue print and connected one side.
Nothing will autoconnect to the other side.

[pliant veldt]

does anyone know where of a wreck in or near dune desert where i can get 50 circuit boards? please and thank you

[young crater]

Hello there! Anyone else had this issue? Dedicated server (Bisecthosting). Usual server restart at midnight.
I come back into my world - ALL displays are set to default iron ingot + "Set Text Here..."
0.0

[iron patio]

how do i know if i should use a load bouncer or a manifold in a particular situation ?

[versed latch]

load balancer for speed, manifold for compactness
that's basically what it boils down to

[glossy iris]

Making a compact load balancer is the key

That said, you can counteract the issues with manifolds fairly easily

[placid stirrup]

Auto balancing manifold

[lucid pagoda]

what are some alts that are important to have for rubber and plastic production?

[versed latch]

the dedicated Heavy Oil Residue and Polymer Resin recipes, as well as Recycled Rubber and Recycled Plastic. You can triple your yield, but it's a little advanced.
Diluted Fuel/Diluted Packaged Fuel is essential to get the most out of the Recycled recipes.

[frail sleet]

except with radiation

[lucid pagoda]

ty, ty

[modest smelt]

any issues bringing experimental saves into 1.1?

[cursive crane]

maybe i just cant wrap my mind around this, but is there no way to get the hypertube branch to switch sides?

like the branch coming out the left side towards me.
#screenshots message

[prisma forge]

#screenshots message

experimenting with beams totally not copying imkblitz

[viral tendon]

I'm sad that my base is so freaking messy but I've come to far like phase 2 and petroleum power so I can't start a new game so I can make my base be normal

[white dawn]

Nope, that's the intended path. Back 'em up if you like, but at the moment experimental should be identical to mainline

[modest smelt]

yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee