satisfactory

[latent prawn]

you can autosort your drops and smart split them into machines to process

[trim vine]

To a certain extent, yes, you can

[prisma forge]

you can automate 90% of it, but you still need to bring wood and leaves for biomass

[latent prawn]

the thing is, past around 600mw of power, biomass doesn't scale

[short meadow]

yeah that kinda sucks

[short meadow]

not for power but for noblisks

[cyan moss]

If you go past 15 gens yoyre cutting wood every couple hours too

[sullen gull]

Unless you sloop

[cyan moss]

Lmfao that sounds horrid

[latent prawn]

ahhh, some protien -> biomass should be enough to make all the gas nobs you'll ever need

[cyan moss]

I really dont explore much is why I do better as coop lol

But 15 sloops to avoid coal power is wild

[latent prawn]

i have a small autosorter that collates leaves/wood/mycelia and its enough for the ammo and filters i use

[cyan moss]

Probably need more than that tbh need like 1500 watts imo comfortably

[prisma forge]

wish there was an alterante recipe for rifle ammo so I can kinda automate it in a better way

[latent prawn]

i just make a point of using the chainsaw to clear out build sites now and then to gather some

[prisma forge]

also what's a good place to farm mycelia?

[latent prawn]

what biome?

[prisma forge]

I kinda have access to all of them lol, but rn I'm getting it from the pink forest east of the grassy fields

[latent prawn]

chainsawing the pink coral stuff in blue crater gives you a bunch, the swamp has a lot of it that can be hand-gathered in the water and then dune desert's 'potted trees' give a lot of it. Outside of that, most caves have fern-looking things that can be chainsawed

[prisma forge]

gotcha

[latent prawn]

i think those soccer ball looking rock things give a little mycelia too

[paper wedge]

when looking at coal setups they have the water extractors in specific spots along a line of coal generators, i can just bring 3 pipes in and bring them in at different points, i dont need the actual water extractors to be positioned in spots, do it?

im a bit confused about the diagram, since the coal generators arent immediately next to the water source

[prisma forge]

as long as they're in top of water you're good

[latent prawn]

for a standard 8:3 coal plant, you're pushing 360 water into a pipe network that can only do 300 per segment, care needs to be taken to subtract some out before adding more in

[prisma forge]

#screenshots message

[latent prawn]

there's a bunch of pictures on the wiki, and more well explained in mcgalleon's pipe guide

!wikisearch coal power

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=coal

[paper wedge]

are 3 normal foundation squares enough behind the coal generators to organize the pipes/junctions, and belts with coal + splitters

[prisma forge]

I managed with like one so yeah you're good

wait was it one? dang I gotta go check it now

[latent prawn]

err wrong link

!wikisearch Coal_Generator_Schematic.png

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Coal_Generator_Schematic.png

[paper wedge]

what do you mean by extracting some out, i cant just connect 3 and let it push through what it can as long as they come in on the 3 points?

[latent prawn]

dang it

look at that png i just linked

[prisma forge]

heeeeeeelll yeeeeeeeeah Radio GaGa started playing. LETS FUCKING GOOO THIS IS MY FAVORITE

#screenshots message

@paper wedge this is how i have my coal powerplant setup

[boreal musk]

just researched some hdds and instantly got sloppy alumina, pure alu ingot, and aclad casing at once
couldnt be luckier than this

[latent prawn]

now all ya need is electro scrap 🙂

[prisma forge]

bruh why is it so hard to get pure iron recipe

[burnt ferry]

just buy ammos filters etc. from tickets

[prisma forge]

nah I figured out why it was so hard for it to pop up. IT'S CUZ I ALERADY HAD IT AND FORGOT

I may be stupid

[burnt ferry]

you gotta maintain pipe saturation, otherwise yhour buildings might not get enough.. things that can affect this unknowingly is mostly height

like when them building drain liquid from the system, its not like with belts that they take the liquid piece by piece.. the entire liquid is one system and gets drained at once.. hence too many buildings draining in a long line can drain too much at once, emptying all pipe, causing hiccups in production

as long as the previous pipe segment is saturated the next pipe segments receives enough to be saturated or to deliver to a consumer without causing hiccups.. since pipe segments cant store that much liquid storages might be necessary as buffer to maintain the saturation

[prisma forge]

keep in mind the per minute output and the per minute input of each machine

[burnt ferry]

ye that of course still counts.. you dont have to push in more water, its just about saturating all pipe segments

damn i keep writing water wheni mean liquid

[prisma forge]

also conveyor belts and pipes have a per minute item transport that differs in each mark

[burnt ferry]

idk... to mee theres only one type of pipes 😂 i dont bother with mk1

[prisma forge]

once you automate heavy modular frames you don't need to care about mk1 really

[burnt ferry]

but still true.. and the same goes for pumps

[burnt ferry]

frames?

copper sheet an dplastic?

[paper wedge]

i can use the pumps to help this tho right?
we just built this #screenshots message

but its a bit elevated from the water extractors, we can use pumps and run these pipe inputs along the walls and in at 3 different points to keep saturation right? (like one right, one middle, one left, like in the diagram on the wiki)

[prisma forge]

wait shit I was thinking of the pumps

[burnt ferry]

check the config of them pumps.. they show you a value called 'head lift'

[peak wasp]

3 dayssssss

[prisma forge]

heh I remember when I first played this game and thought pumps were to help liquid flow faster

[paper wedge]

right, so i can push the water up a bit to me and its ok?

[burnt ferry]

when thats within the limits the pump is pumping enough.. if you elevate greater heights, build carefully and slowly from bottom to top.. if you go to fast you might end up 'catching' liuquids in higher segments, without noticing that they dont get more from further down below

[paper wedge]

or no, we need to rebuild closer?

[dense violet]

yes, but I highly recommend you tidy up the pipes at the start. Build foundations out the whole way

[burnt ferry]

each producer provides 10 metesr of headlift... you cant check that one as far as i know

[paper wedge]

ok will do

[dense violet]

in fact, I'd recomend you rebuild the water extractors

[paper wedge]

ok rebuild them how so?

[burnt ferry]

but you will notice when pipe segments wont be saturated.. just check each segment from bottom to top

[dense violet]

extend the foundations from the genetors out to the water, then sink some foundations under water so you can snap the extractors to them

as long as you get 1 on the grid of the generators you can hold CTRL while building the others to line them up

a very good habit with pipes is to keep them extremetly tidy

[burnt ferry]

theres some youtube videos about this.. just google for 'pipe saturation'

[dense violet]

it matters less for coal gens as they are less finicky but very important later on

so might as well get used to it

[burnt ferry]

@paper wedge in case you ever wondered why anyone would pack and unpack fluids within one factory.. you wont have to bother with pumps then... just belt lifts and thats it.... not the worst idea i say

[paper wedge]

well he said rebuild the extractors themselves

[burnt ferry]

although im not doing it so far

[paper wedge]

im not sure what this means, pack and unpack? maybe i havent unlocked that yet

[dense violet]

it's not critical you rebuild them, but it'll help layout a lot

[burnt ferry]

no reason for unless it allows you to put pipes or pumps in a better way

your issue is not how them extractors are build but how you pipe their products to the target

[paper wedge]

is there a ceiling pipe mount

[dense violet]

there are

[paper wedge]

right, ya ill redo all those

[burnt ferry]

floor = ceiling

[paper wedge]

the weird part about ceiling is the stalks of these coal gens are so big, makes me want to leave it open ceiling

[burnt ferry]

think it unlocks at the same node.. you can make liquid goods into solid goods by putting them into containers

[dense violet]

that's common

though honestly I'd probably void raising the pipes for now. Elevation changes can sometimes be tricky. But it's up to you

[burnt ferry]

thats how i see it the most..

[paper wedge]

when i press a normal pipe segment and place it on the wall, it chooses wall mounts when i have them unlocked automatically ya? nice qol

[burnt ferry]

i put a ceiling atop refiniers.. also way to high to make sense visually

[maiden jacinth]

Most people don't do many ceilings

[burnt ferry]

ah sorry mount.. i thought holes.. dk

[dense violet]

an example of how you can stack coal gens in a nice compact way #1368525377630244954 message

[burnt ferry]

i think you can put the stacking thing onto ceilings

[dense violet]

it's not quite as neat and tidy as it could be, but it's good enough 🙂

[burnt ferry]

but maybe not.. havent done that.. maybe youre just confusing.. because i think its just the normal mount but turned around

[prisma forge]

I have almost 400 hours and I still don't know how to do ceilings properly

tbh I'm just not really creative when it comes to buildings

[burnt ferry]

i do no ceilings but floors only 😂

a ceiling will only be put if i put something atop the ceiling 😂

[prisma forge]

my ceiling? A factory. And what do I do when a factory has no ceiling? I put another factory on top of it. Rinse and repeat.

[burnt ferry]

thats basically my latest 2x4 assembler blueprint 😂

its a stackable blueprint

[prisma forge]

anyways fucking 13 constructors producing 733 quickwire so I can mass produce high speed connector

how do you balance that in three manufacturers

[maiden jacinth]

Under clock

[burnt ferry]

awesome sink

[prisma forge]

I think I'll have to divide the whole thing in two and then balance cuz one belt cannot sustain 733 items per minute (mk4)

[burnt ferry]

im setting up my aluminum production before i do anything with factories more complicated tthan assemblers... (had 3 manufacturers for phase2 and 3)

the steel screw recipe emits > 1000 screws/min .. and thats just a constructor 😂

mk5 still too slow for that isnt it

[prisma forge]

I am producing all phase 3 items, except for the versatile framework since I already had that being produced. Plus, I invited crystal oscillators, high speed connectors and circuit boards to the mass production party

[burnt ferry]

when i played the lsat time i was setting up mass production for phase 2 and 3 as well.. this time i was scouting so much (also new biomes for me since i played last time) that lots of stuff was produced by very slow and simple setups over time... just phase 4 now is a bit too complicated for that and also you cant buy too many base materials from tickets that easy...

unless you put stuff into the sink so valueable that you can just mass produce right away

[prisma forge]

imagine completing phase 2 and 3 by collecting items from crash sites lmao

[burnt ferry]

well.. the computers and heat sinks etc. give enough ticket to do that basically

[prisma forge]

also alien DNA

[burnt ferry]

i could have been even faster, if i had setup proper plastic production right away.. i had the recipe with the blue polymer stuff at first and that yielded by far too little plastic

[burnt ferry]

ye ive set them aliens to peaceful, even when i attack them.. i farm lots of that 😂

[prisma forge]

what's the best plastic recipe? Rn I just have to power shard and sloop the refineries so I can have enough for the factory

[burnt ferry]

i hate getting attacked by them, also i have a weird form of screen arachnophobia, which is arachnophobia but only in movies and games

[prisma forge]

thank ADA for arachnophobia mode

[burnt ferry]

cant speak for the best but the one that has this purple intermediate fuel is certainly better than the one that yields fuel directly]

if you want to yield plastic that is

but thats froma fuel production perspective with plastic and rubber as side products

theres certainly much better ways

[burnt ferry]

that doesnt help..... those stingers dont look like spiders even without that mode 😂 im just too old for combat 😂

[paper wedge]

#screenshots message

this guy wont leave, is he trapped? will he be here forever? cant seem to kill him lol

[prisma forge]

as someone who have played and beaten every dark souls game, have all achievements in dark souls 1, 3 and elden ring, plus finished the DLC,

Yeah I get ya I'm terrible at combat.

[burnt ferry]

also in update 5 those stingers were glitching all the time and hard to fight.. now in peaceful they just stand their and await their death 😂

[burnt ferry]

i refunded elden ring... most overrated game right after baldurs gate 3 👹

[prisma forge]

eh, everyone has their own opinion and that's ok

[halcyon wave]

if I dismantle my upgraded hub do i get the upgrade materials as well?

[prisma forge]

no

[maiden jacinth]

Upgraded hub?

[halcyon wave]

like i have hub upgrade 3

[prisma forge]

you only get the like 20 or 30 iron ore you used to build the hub in the first place

[whole zinc]

vertical factory

[prisma forge]

all the verticality. Have one step of each production in a floor.

[paper wedge]

#screenshots message

is there a trick to making pipes align straight? nothing im trying works lol

[whole zinc]

try pressing ctrl? (im unsure)

[paper wedge]

idk just not helping much

[prisma forge]

next update we'll have a straight mode for pipes let's gooooooooooooo

this pleases my brain

[whole zinc]

LMAO ohh that would be funny though building a burj khalifa and bringing the finished product to the bottom

[whole zinc]

1.1?

[prisma forge]

correct, sir

[maiden jacinth]

Holy shit.
I just realized I can have pipes in the open under my stupid rules

[prisma forge]

uuuugh a stupid friend of mine made me get addicted to No More Tears from Ozzy Osbourne ffs

[maiden jacinth]

Floor conveyer holes are really useful for verticality

[paper wedge]

ok i got it a bit better

[prisma forge]

there's also the pipe version

[maiden jacinth]

True
Idk how I feel about verticality in my challenge save
On one hand looking for inspo from real factories I noticed that multi floor factories aren't really a thing because energy

But on the other hand verticality is ficsit approved

[whole zinc]

haha but i would never

im still early in the game so i dont fully know what my factories would look like

[maiden jacinth]

The spaghetti is effective
I added rules because I want things to look pretty

[whole zinc]

but ik i want a factory that "satisfies" my eyes

[maiden jacinth]

I'm also early in the game

[whole zinc]

spaghetti hurts my eyes 😦

[maiden jacinth]

Could try the rules I've been using

[whole zinc]

what rules?

[prisma forge]

my only rule is that the first and last machines of a production lines MUST have 100% efficiency

[halcyon wave]

whats a good place to put your hub?

[maiden jacinth]

No belts machines or mk1 power poles outside of buildings
Machines must all be accessible without jumping on a belt
Railing must prevent accidental falls and accidentally waking into a machine

[prisma forge]

anywhere really, if you just started. Which biome did you pick?

[halcyon wave]

the recommended one

[maiden jacinth]

I keep it in my inventory

It's an easy crafting bench and spawn point for exploring

[prisma forge]

Grassy fields I assume? I put mine on top of a mountain near like 6 impure iron nodes

[maiden jacinth]

And it has two biomass burners

[whole zinc]

i get the 2 and 3 but how would u have no belts outside buildings?
like u gotta bring the resources in

[maiden jacinth]

You can put a miner in a building for early game

[halcyon wave]

do you want the impure one? i though pure was better

[maiden jacinth]

And eventually you get access to trucks

[whole zinc]

aha icic

[maiden jacinth]

Energy is easy to get

Miners only cost energy

Just tap all the nodes

[prisma forge]

although it is the worse one, it's still useful. FICSIT DOES NOT WASTE.

[maiden jacinth]

Also questions like that are part of what I've found fun doing this

[prisma forge]

hey that's just industrial revolution

[maiden jacinth]

I'm working on getting my coal plant running and have to figure out how to make a nice looking building for them
The extractors can go into the open because pipes in the open make sense

And then I'm probably going to have to build a factory close to there for my steel to get the big poles Since I can't pipe power to my main buildings yet

[paper wedge]

ok update on the coal and pipes, is this looking alot better?
also is this tick giraff stuck here forever?

#screenshots message

[maiden jacinth]

Anyway. The verticality question.
It's an interesting problem in my rules

Also sidenote factories irl are way less automated then I thought

[paper wedge]

im gonna place pumps alone the mid sections of the 'stairs' i guess

[whole zinc]

thats nice thats nice

[maiden jacinth]

I was looking up screw factories cuz I was curious
And they fr just hand feed the machines. And then the screws go into buckets that get hand loaded/carried to the next area

[prisma forge]

I work in a factory (IT guy but I walk around from time to time) and yes, that shit is not really automated lol

[maiden jacinth]

I knew it wasn't gonna be that automated

But I was still surprised

[paper wedge]

will 3 pumps (1 on each) like this be enough to push it up a step? what about a second step a bit further up? ill test it but dont have power yet so unsure
#screenshots message

[maiden jacinth]

Thought the finished screws would go on a conveyer at least

[prisma forge]

I work in a clothing factory lol

[prisma forge]

should be fine for all of it I think. Also that looks sick.

[maiden jacinth]

Ah. Well I'm one of the people that knows clothing is mostly hand done

There's probably more conveyers where I work then in most factories ngl

[paper wedge]

oh wow, all the way up? ok, maybe ill add a second set 2/3rds to the base to make sure

[prisma forge]

maybe. The mk1 pump gives a maximum of 20 meters head lift

#screenshots message

Took a break from building my next factory to show my concrete box. It produces per minute:
500 screws
120 iron rods
80 iron plates
all from the impure iron nodes near the grassy fields spawn

[maiden jacinth]

When people don't need access to them conveyers go on the ceiling btw. At least where I work

[prisma forge]

#screenshots message

And that's another layer of the factory done. And I'll call it a day, it's 2am here.

after doing the electric connections, of course

[sullen gull]

Be sure to take a drink of some Ficist Bottled water 😏

[cyan garnet]

HOR+diluted (packaged) fuel+recycled rubber+recycled plastic is the highest yield recipe chain for plastic and rubber, converts at a ratio of 3:1 from oil

[paper wedge]

#screenshots message

ok another update on the pipes/coal factory, got the basics all in place need to bring in coal and power now. Am I cooking? Are the pumps enough?

1 set of pumps at the bottom of the ramp (3rd picture) 1 set right before the base incine

ill test the flow anyway but looking ok?
i circled the input points of the pipes into the coal setup

[worn parrot]

hi guys

[cyan garnet]

You can use walls or foundations to measure the vertical distance

[sullen gull]

You can check if the pumps are enough by looking at the headlift they are producing.

[paper wedge]

ill double check for sure once i power it all, gotcha.
hows the setup look, and design? should work and be efficient given the pumps are enough right?

[cyan garnet]

And/or use the moving blue ring on the hologram when building to see the extent of the head lift it provides

[sullen gull]

Looks good from this chair 🙂

[paper wedge]

OHHH i never noticed that ty bones

[sullen gull]

Yes, but don't place it ON that bubble. Place it just below/before, if placing another pump that is.

[paper wedge]

overlap a little understood

[worn parrot]

How can i make my Factories look good on the exterior cuz i never put any work into it so i dont know

[cyan garnet]

Look for inspo in #design-and-architecture

[maiden jacinth]

variation

try different angles and materials

[sullen gull]

Take a gander through #screenshots and #design-and-architecture for some ideas and discussions on just this

[worn parrot]

thanks i will

[cyan garnet]

Take cues from real life buildings

[worn parrot]

got it thank you i will try that now with my oil factory

[maiden jacinth]

and use the sink

unlock some of the wall and foundations packs

I like using concrete foundation

[worn parrot]

Makes sense i got satisfactory a week ago but cracked then fell inlove spent 100 hours and yesterday i bought it and already have 20 sum hours in 1 day

i love this game

[sullen gull]

It can be daunting for sure. But remember, no matter what ADA says, there is no race.

[dense violet]

there'sx also a number of design videos you can find on youtube for tips and tricks

methods of layout out objects in certain ways

[sullen gull]

👆

[dense violet]

totalxclipse has a number of good ones

[worn parrot]

got it im not speedrunning the game i want a GIANT save with lots of factories decorated and stuff

[sullen gull]

And many are linked in #design-and-architecture as well

[worn parrot]

i will check that out also

thanks guys

[dense violet]

no worries, but a lot of its is planning and practice

you really need to know where you're machines are going to go and how every system connects to all the others

[worn parrot]

About that i will send a picture of my recent Factorie that is just sitting on a foundation

[dense violet]

don't feel bad if you're first few look bad, it's pretty normal. Just learn from each one 🙂

[dense violet]

#design-and-architecture is a good place to chat about that, and you can post images

[worn parrot]

Thanks

[worn parrot]

okay il go there

[paper wedge]

i thought 1 coal miner could supply 8 generators? or you need 2?

they use 15 coal / min each ya?

[maiden jacinth]

you need 120/min

[paper wedge]

understood, thats what i was realizing. i can do that

just making sure i wasnt crazy

[cyan garnet]

You’ll need mk2 belts

[maiden jacinth]

that too

[dense violet]

check what the miners out put and calculate off that. Always go by numbers because you can change clock speeds on things

[azure cave]

The factory must grow

[sullen gull]

Just a bit 😏 https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1381125704422527080

[azure cave]

Yea I also just started this game

I came here after my fire for factorio died

[sullen gull]

Well, remember to feed your Lizard Doggo, exploring is rewarding, and you don't have to hold E or space 🙂

[latent prawn]

i've found that my desire to play these sorts of games remains constant, but changing up between this, dsp and whatever newish ones are around sorta keeps me coming back

[paper wedge]

does deleting supports on tracks once placed count towards item limit?

[sullen gull]

I should check out DSP I think ..

[azure cave]

I love creative/automation games I just can't for the life of me play singleplayer

[latent prawn]

i'll go strong with one or another for a few months and then find a project i think would be fun

[azure cave]

In any game really atp

[sullen gull]

The item limit is nothing to worry about.

[paper wedge]

fair, just curious if it does

[latent prawn]

early game for dsp probably needs some balance and polish, but the game is really good

[sullen gull]

Afaik, yes. according to one of the streams

I tried factorio, I just don't think I care for the threats portion. and the top-down didn't really appeal.

[latent prawn]

there's the same type of tower-style enemy defense stuff in dsp

only at max difficulty does it really become a hard thing, and then really only for the first few hours of factory building

one of the things in dsp that i find pretty fun is that the enemies drop stuff and you can build factories around aggro'ing and farming their drops. getting the rng to produce regular and stable results is kind of a fun problem for my type of dorkiness

[paper wedge]

greens are 60/m mk1 's coming from a 60/m normal coal mine. Merged into 120m mk2 tracks on the red marked tracks, once it merges. This works ya? no issue with using the merger to upgrade to a bigger track? #screenshots message

[latent prawn]

track=belt?

[paper wedge]

yes sorry lol

[sullen gull]

Firstly, I'm glad i'm not the only one that does that. And second, I'll keep an eye to see if I can catch it on sale. If it does that is.

[sullen gull]

As long as those 60's are coming from two different nodes

[latent prawn]

it should work, 2 mk1 belts fit only a merged mk2 output. i've done similar w/o problem

[paper wedge]

correct, 2 normal coal nodes

[latent prawn]

though it'll be a hot minute before you upgrade it all to mk3's to burn 240/min

[maiden jacinth]

or just overclock one node

[paper wedge]

i havent messed with overclocking yet

[sullen gull]

make sure all the belts between the spiltters in front of the coal plants is 120 as well

[paper wedge]

but i can look into it soon i have a few power cells

[maiden jacinth]

overclocking and underclocking is great for fixing rations

*ratios

[paper wedge]

yep everything past the merger is 120

[sullen gull]

The ones going to the machines can be mk1 though.

[maiden jacinth]

started again again because well im insane ig
but now im wondering if it would be worth it to scan a hard drive and get iron wire/cast screws

[whole zinc]

where do i find taken photos

[sullen gull]

1.0 or 1.1?

[whole zinc]

1.1 is alr out?

[maiden jacinth]

🤔 should I even use alt recepies if im trying to make things a little harder for myself

[whole zinc]

1.0 ig

[sullen gull]

Check the #faq

@whole zinc https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/670203778712076288/1333381629900492810

[whole zinc]

yepp thx

[latent prawn]

early hd scanning helps a lot in making a good amt of rotors and rips. iron wire & cast screw won't really give you bonus production, but may simplify factory design

[maiden jacinth]

iron wire would be for stitched plate

[latent prawn]

stitched plate otoh will allow you to make a lot more mk2 belts

yeah, problem with iron wire really early is that you can only pull so much iron out of the ground and the lion's share of that needs to go to iron plate. copper wire otoh, is pretty much unused until you need to start making automated wiring

stitched plate's real value isn't in being able to use iron wire, but instead the fact that it reduces the number of plates per rip

[maiden jacinth]

also getting rid of screws

[latent prawn]

people still have a thing against screw, lol

[maiden jacinth]

but im tryin to think to myself if getting rid of screws should be something I do
because screws are annoying
but im trying to make things a bit harder by adding bulding rules and stuff

[maiden jacinth]

its about how many screws you need for shit

[latent prawn]

you direct belt them from the screw constructor into whatever machines consume them and you never have issues with belt capacity. its a lesson to learn that simplifies things later when you're dealing with quickwire

quickwire is a pain in the butt, much worse than screws in terms of volume, and no one ever complains about it

[maiden jacinth]

isnt part of that because screws are a earlier resource to manage

[latent prawn]

its because people who complain about screws never get very far in the game, lol

[maiden jacinth]

ive gotten not very far multiple times now ehe

[tiny ermine]

I mean considering only about 14% of the people who play Satisfactory get past Phase 3, not a lot of people get far at all

[latent prawn]

no matter what stage of the game you are in, there's always a problem of belts only being so fast and what you wish to build taking more than one belt's worth of stuff. learning the multiple ways of solving that problem helps in the game considerably

[sullen gull]

Is that just going by achievement though?

[tiny ermine]

Yeah, so it is an unfair statistic, as it would only then count for the people who have played after the achievement was put into place

As far as I'm aware there is nothing that like deactivates achievements though

[latent prawn]

it probably is a pretty accurate stat. but that's probably 10-20 hrs into the game progression.

[sullen gull]

I was just curious. I do know a lot seem to start getting the burnout in P3 heh.

[tiny ermine]

(Me taking 80 hours to get there)

[sullen gull]

Probably why I'm still stuck in it in this save 🤣

[maiden jacinth]

the beginning again

[sullen gull]

1095 🤣 🤣

[tiny ermine]

GAH DAMN

[boreal musk]

AGS exist

they disable achievements

[tiny ermine]

Wdym AGS?

[maiden jacinth]

ags isnt something the average player would make

[boreal musk]

advance game setting

[sullen gull]

Oh, sorry, 1085

[tiny ermine]

Yeah most people would not know abt that

meaning the people who did would most likely be an outlier

[maiden jacinth]

21% did phase 2

[sullen gull]

It unlocks the tiers, but you still have to complete the space elevator

for the phases to 'unlock' anyhow ..

[maiden jacinth]

but like
phase 3 is probably where id consider you being able to say you got a decent amount in

i havent gotten past phase 3 because of my chronic restarting

[latent prawn]

yeah, phase 3 is kind of a slog if you automate everything all the way

[tiny ermine]

The furthest I've gotten was Phase 4, and started working on a nuclear power plant but then gave up, and then I started a new save when 1.0 came out

[tiny ermine]

Like I did

[maiden jacinth]

its more that in phase 3 i realized that the game is significantly more sandboxy then I initially thought

[tiny ermine]

Automated all the elevator parts, computers, connectors, circuits, ai limiters, etc, but I'm gonna end up needing to make a larger technology factory

[maiden jacinth]

and the spaghet was starting to piss me off

[latent prawn]

i'm in phase 5 and still haven't properly automated any manufacturer recipes besides hmf's

[sullen gull]

I mean, I've been through phase 5 already, But still, 3 > 4 is a bit of a ooof for sure

[tiny ermine]

that is something strange, HMF was probably one of the easiest like factories I did

[sullen gull]

Same really. Iron tube = ❤️

[tiny ermine]

and Fused Modular Frames as well

FMF was even easier imo

[latent prawn]

every component factory i'm building is being sized to support a max wasteless nuclear goal

[sullen gull]

That I still need to do lol

[latent prawn]

my hmf build is for 180/min

nothing at that sort of size ends up being particularly easy

[sullen gull]

Lol, check some of my screen shots, water is going to be your bain 🤣 https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/572784151439081472/1381158846826811462

[tiny ermine]

I'm preparing to make like a 7000 aluminum ingot factory, and a like 50-100 crystal oscillator factory. I'm gonna probably die doing it

[maiden jacinth]

im working on getting to make a factory...

x3

[latent prawn]

right now i'm working on quartz stuff. last project was 1750 circuit board + 640 AIL

altogether, i'm hoping to make 405 oscillators/min and the silica for 300 HSC's plus the rest of the world's quartz processed for aluminum

[maiden jacinth]

hell yea
overclocking all the miners?

[latent prawn]

of course

[maiden jacinth]

all this concrete I need is kinda a pain ;w;

[tiny ermine]

I've gotten to Phase 4 with 1 limestone miner 😭

[maiden jacinth]

its not really needed playing normally

[elder apex]

no way i could do that, I use too much concrete for steel production and other various alts

[tiny ermine]

I basically stop using concrete after I get the alt steel recipes

well for recipes, I still use it for building

[elder apex]

i'm too big a fan of molded pipes and beams, along with screw-less HMFs

[tiny ermine]

Ahhh I get that

[elder apex]

plus concrete isn't really used for much else so why not use it for those things

[maiden jacinth]

i uh

need it for foundations
and walls

fuckkkk
I need a sink to make a door

💀

[rapid wren]

was 1.1 10.06?

[maiden jacinth]

1.1 isnt out yet

[rapid wren]

....

ill check the vod

[rustic otter]

its currently open to play in beta but isnt fully released yet

[rapid wren]

it's 10.06

[rapid wren]

pure?

[tiny ermine]

yeah but on a mk1 miner

[prisma hazel]

i wonder what extra goodies might show up in 1.1

[shell obsidian]

4x4 walls

I really want 4x4 and 4x1 walls

We might also get different skins for elevators

Maybe quarter foundations

Hopefully a new wall and foundation variant

[prisma hazel]

ye nice ideas they would be good

[maiden jacinth]

I found a loophole in my rules that let me get a factory up before I made a sink

[paper wedge]

help me out guys...some of my coal gens are running at 40% efficiency. Im trying to figure out why, i think its the water flow. Pipes are full of water, but flow rate is low in a lot of pots?

do i need to add some pumps? Flor on the upwards parts coming in is fine (pumps are directly under the floor under arrows)

then the flow rate drops near the generators. I was sort of following the advise of the 3rd picture

i got lots of advice before and thought i took it all in but something i guess i messed up lol
#screenshots message

[shell obsidian]

I would like to have more decorative items in the game but that is never going to happen is it

[shell obsidian]

Might want to make a water tower, liquids are a bit weird and can easily be done in a water tower

[sullen gull]

Take a look to see what headlift the pumps are pushing?

[prisma hazel]

full pipe with no flow tells me its not got enough oompf to get into the generators

[boreal musk]

pumps? headlifts?

[paper wedge]

9.9-15.8m on the ones closest to the gens

headlift

[shell obsidian]

How many hours do you have on Satisfactory

[paper wedge]

let me add another set or two

[sullen gull]

No no

[sudden lichen]

hello all.
I've been playing some 1.0 for a couple weeks now and I feel like there's been a serious performance drop. I didn't realize that I had global illumination turned off but it is absolutely unplayable with it on rn, where in update8 I had no noticeable issues.
ATM I have choppy fps even with all settings to low. Is this a widespread/known issue or am I alone in my AMD-Graphics + Linux ways?

[sullen gull]

That sounds good. As long as it's not over 20

[paper wedge]

oh, answer isnt more pumps? lol maybe im misunderstanding then, whats wrong?

my flowrate is only 130-150 on the pumps

not 300

[sullen gull]

did you let everything fill prior?

[paper wedge]

uhhhhhhh

[sullen gull]

🙂

[paper wedge]

so i disconnect the pipes, and give it time?

[sullen gull]

put everything on stanby for a minute

[shell obsidian]

What are your computer spectrums, the game is really performance heavy and lags out my RTX 4060 on the best quality graphics

[sullen gull]

no no.

[paper wedge]

ok

can i just turn the gens off?

[sullen gull]

Just put the coal generators on standby, leave everything else running

[paper wedge]

is there an easy way to turn a bunch on standby instead of running up to each

[sudden lichen]

7800X3D CPU, RX6700 XT Graphics, 64GB RAM

[shell obsidian]

@paper wedge If you were to expand the coal power setup remember for future reference to set up a water tower

[sudden lichen]

Again, in Update8 it was definitely not as bad as it is right now.

[boreal musk]

water tower isnt needed

[sullen gull]

if you can clock them, you can under clock to .1% and copy paste

But otherwise no

[shell obsidian]

Update 8 has had many new features and things added to it, the real problem with your lag is your setup, either turn down your graphics or get a better computer

[sullen gull]

Any recent driver updates?

[shell obsidian]

oh god driver updates

I have had some problems with driver updates recently

Not on satisfactory but on another game

[sullen gull]

@paper wedge , once the gens are full with both water and coal, and coal ahs stopped moving, go ahead ans start up the gens again.

[old yarrow]

Can someone help me find the red bamboo fields uranium node

[sudden lichen]

good question. I do not have any active participation with those as my system Update takes care of that. but maybe. I have a game in unity that suddenly dropped FPS like crazy and now runs again. Man...
Yes. I'll just wait a bit longer and see if it fixes itself.

[shell obsidian]

Have you tried going into the red forest and scanning for uranium?

[sudden lichen]

my specs are well above choppy fps at minimum quality settings.

[old yarrow]

Yea its underground I cant find videos on how to get in

[paper wedge]

if flow rate near the generators is < 300, like half that or less, but the gens tanks are full/nearly full and they running at 100%, thats ok/normal ya?

[shell obsidian]

I think the entrance is near the big waterfall going into the bottomless death pit off of the south of the north forest

[paper wedge]

whats important is the gens have fuel/water and are at 100% on the stat bar correct?

[sudden lichen]

while I'm "debugging": is there a way to in-game show current fps?

[maiden jacinth]

just learned about the manual crafting multiplier

why does this even exist

[shell obsidian]

@old yarrow Might want to watch ImKibitz's video on making weapons from 24:05 in

https://youtu.be/d9amJtHB_5A?si=5StTPKqw7Tgq2yHB

He goes to the node I believe you were talking about in it

[old yarrow]

Alright thanks

[shell obsidian]

Your welcome

[rapid wren]

yeah but if it's pure you got plenty, just go mk2 and overclock x3 and you get 600

i play rather slow so i don't use that much resources, maybe that changes when i get into p5

[paper wedge]

best way to make pathways for factory cart/trucks etc?
just normal platforms, are there rails/sides i can get or something

[mortal ginkgo]

general rule is 4+ foundation for tracktors and 6+ for trucks

[dense violet]

wide??

[dense violet]

well the 'best' spots for trucks is the natural terrain. Easy and less infrastructure

but if you're having them in the factories, if you want 2 lane traffic you want at least 3 foundation wide road so they can manage turns easily

at least 1.5 foundations per lane

[mortal ginkgo]

oh sorry, I said it wrong, 1 4x4 foundation for tracktors and 1.5+ 4x4 foundation for trucks

[dense violet]

8x8 I think you mean

8mx8m is 1 foundation

I'd still recommend 12m wide per lane though

[mortal ginkgo]

that it is then, I think I shouldnt try helping people when woken up new lol

[mortal ginkgo]

thats a bit too big I think

[dense violet]

1.5 foundations is needed for any turns you want to take. you could do 1 foundation if it's perfectly straight or no other lanes of traffic

[mortal ginkgo]

1.5 foundation wide road for tracktors and 2 foundation wide road for trucks worked for me, but you can go 2 foundation for both to be safe but 1.5 is enough in most cases.

[dense violet]

2 for one lane is a bit much though. You get really fat roads that way

[mortal ginkgo]

Arent Trucks a bit fat themselves?

[dense violet]

yeah but 1.5 per lane is enough for 2 way traffic and turns.

it's a little tight on 90 degree turns, but doable. and you can always make the intersections fatter

[mortal ginkgo]

[maiden jacinth]

theres paths built into the map

use those

[pearl walrus]

Today Is they I will be disciplined enought o collect resources. I havent touched the game cause I was to lazy to do so.

BUT TODAY WE ARE STORNG

[sullen gull]

Take some fuel and drive the explorer around

[latent prawn]

i'm finding that even with trucks, 3 foundations for 2 lanes is enough to let them pass each other if you record the routes carefully

[pearl walrus]

Nah I gott build belt highways from the resource to its destination

[latent prawn]

and um, try to avoid sharp turns with your roads

[sullen gull]

Naaaaah, that can waiit .. take a break lol, go jump cliffs, snag baconshrooms, berries, nuts, slugs, drives, mercers, sloops.. and just let the roads take ya! 🤣

Oh, wrong resources 🤦‍♂️

[pearl walrus]

SAM😭😭😭😭

[maiden jacinth]

or

[pearl walrus]

5k of it😭😭

[maiden jacinth]

use a truck

[pearl walrus]

Across half the map?

[maiden jacinth]

train

[pearl walrus]

Belt

[latent prawn]

for sam, process it into rsam and ship it by drone

[sullen gull]

Yaaas ,,, all by natrual roads !

Espciecally the high spots 😏

[dreamy kestrel]

The optimal way to transport sam is to pay someone minimum wage to hop on your server and transport it by hand using their inventory

[pearl walrus]

I cant because of sloops, if i was to recollect them it would take hozrs

But its actually a good idea i might consider it

[hollow girder]

Did they invert the camera movement when driving vehicles in 1.1?

[dreamy kestrel]

You mean you're slooping rsam?

[pearl walrus]

Yeah

[dreamy kestrel]

I see

And yeah I always process sam into rsam near the miner

[boreal musk]

note, if you want to sloop sam, overclock all the constructor so you use less somersloops

[pearl walrus]

Ye ofc

[dreamy kestrel]

This applies for using sloops in general

[pearl walrus]

It would take me 90 sloops if i didnt😭

[crude pilot]

I need the pure iron ingot recipe I have scanned like 30 hard drives still didn't get it the game seems to know i need it , I have built all the infrastructure and the only thing remaining is the damn recipe

[dreamy kestrel]

If you want to find a specific recipe quickly, it's best not to pick options in your hard drives since it removes the two recipes from the pool

Also don't reroll until you have a lot of hard drives researched and unchosen

[pearl walrus]

Dont select recipies just leave them in the hard drive libray

[dreamy kestrel]

Since the pool will be smaller, increasing the chance your reroll finds what you want

[prisma hazel]

i have a different problem, i can either pick silica circuit boards or wet concrete. However i have caterium circuits unlocked and im wondering if i will need that silica for alu production

[pearl walrus]

Wet concrete is important for getting rid of water byproduct

[dreamy kestrel]

Silica is optional for aluminum and most people go for the pure aluminum alt in practice

Id recommend not picking any recipes unless you're going to use them right away

They aren't going anywhere, you can wait

If you end up building a factory where silicon CBs would be perfect you can pick it then

Or if you need an easy (though inefficient) way to deal with waste water you can pick up wet concrete

[prisma hazel]

i guess i will leave it for now

had a few s tier recipes in a row and each one can take production in a completely different direction

just when you get a nice factory going and a single recipe changes the entire setup

im never reaching tier 9

[crude pilot]

I am doing just that

Just unlucky ig

[pearl walrus]

Yeah keep going

[crude pilot]

crying noises welp might as well fix other stuff in the world while i wait for the recipe to show up

[pearl walrus]

Ive already lost all will to collect sam. There is no point in making it scattered around the entire map with most nodes being impure and some normal ones. This is the biggest chore of the entire game, it horrendously tedious😭😭😭😭

[dense violet]

just make a small sam factory in the wilderness and belt it back

or even bring back and inventory full that will do you for all the early tech

[tight ridge]

any tips for finding the initial 10 sam?

[dense violet]

run around and explore as you look for other things like new nodes, hard drives, slugs ect

they are usually in awkward places

[tight ridge]

ah alr

[dense violet]

did you start in the grassy fields?

[pearl walrus]

Were not talking about early teach here. Were talking about 4480 trigons per minute

[dense violet]

oh at that ponit train or drone it around

why would you need that much?

[tight ridge]

northern forest

[dense violet]

maybe the closest is to the west in the caves under the rocky desert?

or somewhat east into the canyon

[sullen gull]

But... why? lol

[tight ridge]

been searching so much that i'm currently near the rocky desert

[pearl walrus]

Max uranium wasteles

[dense violet]

you know the big cave system there ?

[tight ridge]

nope

[sullen gull]

Have fun with the water!

[dense violet]

on the east and west coast of the rocky d, there's a cave to a long system. sam node there

also lots of spiders

[tight ridge]

huh

[pearl walrus]

What water? For the rsctors?

[dense violet]

mostly little ones , but they swarm

[sullen gull]

I assume you are talking about doing a massive nuke plant using all the uranium up to ficsonium? or did I misunderstand?

[pearl walrus]

Yeah

[tight ridge]

oh i died

[sullen gull]

Then yeah, have fun with the water lol. tis about 108,000 🙂

[pearl walrus]

I have my ways

Look at design and archutechture i posted my setuo there

[crude pilot]

I spawn in stuff like hard drives from time to time and that's okay because it's my personal world

[timid rune]

I am about to start my nuclear power plant build... finally

after all the setup for uranium and pu rods

[stoic mountain]

Do you guys build the factory first or the machines first

[leaden turret]

factory with two walls missing to allow for easy expansion

[fallen orbit]

Got a mechanical keyboard today and finally can play satisfactory again cuz my last keyboard decided to not work

[timid rune]

time to disable map boundary

[boreal musk]

aight, time to loot the entire spire coast, this will probably took me 5 hrs

[finite latch]

I don't understand how the refinery went from my least favorite machine to build with to one of my favorite. usually they are harder to build indoors and still look nice. you not like a just stuck a bunch of machine in a giant room.

[dreamy kestrel]

pure recipes will make you hate refineries since you need to spam so many of them

with more "machine-efficient" recipes, theyre more enjoyable to work with

[hidden sparrow]

I LOOOVE REFINERIES

i only use pure receipes

beautiful

[hard ivy]

I love pure recipes

I hate alloys

make a decent blueprint and you can place refineries faster than the DD can refill with building materials

[finite latch]

i don't normally use pure recipes.. because I couldn't make the refineries look nice.. I just stuck with smelters/foundries

[dreamy kestrel]

yeah if youre willing to just repeat blueprints then its whatever

but i usually prefer to incorporate some variation in my builds

(except for turbo/rocket fuel power plants; those are way too much effort to make look nice for a facility you never revisit after youre done building it)

[finite latch]

I revisit my facilities lol

[hard ivy]

aesthetics are a time inefficiency to be optimized away

[finite latch]

aesthetics are the point of the game.. if it looks embarrassing, its gotta get gone..

[steady glade]

is there a tool to plan out factories?

[dreamy kestrel]

theres plenty, depending on exactly what youre looking for

[steady glade]

not in terms of numbers but in terms of space and layout

[dreamy kestrel]

ah yeah, thats not really a thing afaik

[hard ivy]

yes, it's called building it in the game

[dreamy kestrel]

most medium-to-large-scale factories have so much verticality that itd be very hard to make an intuitive tool thats better than just building the thing

[steady glade]

i wish i had the mesurements of all machines handy

[hard ivy]

make yourself a "creative" world if you feel like you need flight mode to design properly

[hard ivy]

the wiki pages have them

[dreamy kestrel]

the wiki has footprint dimensions

though note that some buildings are weirdly shaped, the one that comes to mind is fuel powered generators

[steady glade]

i see, thanks

[dreamy kestrel]

a little bit of extra corner space that you can exploit to cram more stuff in (especially if you nudge)

[sullen gull]

The length width and height are of the actual clearance box. Can be seen when holding ctrl or can turn on in settings.

[dreamy kestrel]

correct, and im saying that some buildings have a clearance box that is strictly larger than their actual limits

[finite latch]

I use the blueprinter to measure what I can fit it a 6x6.. then roughly plan according to that

while the footprint of the machine is nice, you have to think about how you are going to connect the belts/pipes.. machines that have more than one input can use more belt space.. unless you plan will a logistics floor for each

[echo mauve]

do you know when people answer my questions-and-help post?

[dense violet]

not many net work people so could take a while. I'd search the qna posts for similar keywords. I can basically guarantee your issue has been solved 20 times before on ther e

[prisma forge]

if my calculations are correct, turning plastic into canisters before sending to the sink wields more points than sending the plastic directly to the sink, correct?

[dense violet]

probably. extra steps tend to do that

[hard ivy]

the point value of an item is usually double the sum of the point values of its ingredients (of the default recipe)

[prisma forge]

anyways, I underestimated the size of my next factory and now I need to make a new powerplant.
One of the resources produces will need a total of 229 machines.

[echo mauve]

I searched in so many forums but I still cannot find it

[burnt ferry]

heavy plates ?

i did a setup on satis tools with all the base material i could get from 3 pure iron nodes. the calculator made each output equal, also that of them heavy plates... heavy plate setup takes 236 assemblers 😂

[hard ivy]

and that's why you shouldn't use maximize mode

also, there's no item called "heavy plate"

[burnt ferry]

who?

the idiocy of claiming one should not use maximize mode because it does what one intended to do with it....... while heaving 'heart balancers' in them nicknames

[hard ivy]

I sincerely doubt you want the exact same amount of everything

[lavish lance]

imagine a world where trucks used power instead of fuel

[hard ivy]

imagine a world where drones take batteries to build and take time to recharge when landed

[static dune]

what tier do i get access to coal?

And the biofuel burners can only power 3 buildings? It needs to connect to a power pole, so that pole then has only 3 connections left. Does that improve at later tiers or i'm just going to end up with a bazillion coal and other fuel burners with billions of power poles?

[hard ivy]

you can connect a pole to a pole

[lime mural]

i wouldn’t have to make so many battery out let’s

[hard ivy]

coal is T3 I think?

[lime mural]

yea

[static dune]

oh pole to pole? dang it! That will make things easier, haha. Thanks

T3? Nice! I'm almost there. Although the pole to pole thing will help most for now...so many biofuel burners here. it's already a mess

[timid rune]

Here goes the first uranium train out...

[dense violet]

search 'connection to host' there's a bunch

improve your google fu

[dense violet]

connect power poles to each other. Connect infinite things

[static dune]

rookie mistake 😄 Life is much easier now

[timid rune]

and nuclear power is off and running slowly! \o/

[mystic oriole]

when did the cart item duplication glitch get patched?

[hard ivy]

1.1

[mystic oriole]

Thanks
I starting a new save, saw that it didn't work.

[clever pier]

@noble zodiac just how? those builds are so impressive. are you using mods? amazing work

[eternal delta]

#screenshots message Going thru Screenshots and gussing what the factory makes and is this a HMF factory?

[timid rune]

pumps only sitting at around 96% eff hmm

time to fix it tomorrow lol lmao

[clever pier]

So I got 4 portals continuousl open stable, 5 particle generators a bunch of drones and quantum encoders and still under 20GW total power consumption

people who build 50GW, what are you doing with it?

[hard ivy]

I'm barely into tier 7 and I'm already at 27 GW 🤣

[dreamy kestrel]

are you not overclocking at all?

(drones dont consume power though FYI)

drone ports do ofc

but a very small amount relatively

(less than a single overclocked refinery IIRC)

[clever pier]

overlocking lots of machines yet

but not the particle generators or quantum encoders

[hard ivy]

overclocking only costs 34% more per item so it's not much of a difference

[clever pier]

1 pasta per minute can keep 5 portals open, or 10 if you sloop the singularity cells

[dreamy kestrel]

still feels like your power consumption is on the low end for your point in the game, did you automate space elevator parts?

[clever pier]

pasta is fully automated

[dreamy kestrel]

then i guess youre just efficient

[clever pier]

other parts no, not fully automated and set to end production when I've made enough but I leave the machines there

[dreamy kestrel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[clever pier]

just not running

[dreamy kestrel]

in my first 1.0 clear i think i made it to phase 5 using about 15 GW and then finished phase 5 using like 70 GW fwiw

[clever pier]

however I might set some of them going again now to sink for tickets

i think I have every single part thats needed for a machine fully auomated and going into DD

[hard ivy]

what's your max cons then?

[clever pier]

max consumption 38GW. actual consumption hovering around 15GW

I don't put sinks on every single part line, just have them stop when the DD is full

[hard ivy]

that's what I figured considereing the difference

I sink all overflow

[clever pier]

yeah so that would make a huge difference obviously

[hard ivy]

So I'm at 27 GW actual 30 GW max

[timid rune]

Extractor(250%) - Pump |
Extractor(250%) - Pump + - Nuclears Power Plant

or...

Extractor(250%) |
Extractor(250%) + Pump  - Nuclears Power Plant

[hard ivy]

I usually do #2

[timid rune]

the plant fluctuates between about 97-100% eff

but I think that's the best I could get at 250% oc

[hard ivy]

It's just 2 extractors 1 NPP. You should have no issues getting 600/min through the pipe

[timid rune]

yeah that's what I would imagine

[hard ivy]

post some pics of the piping maybe

or try flushing the pipes

that sometimes helps

[oak walrus]

but what time 1.1 release?

[fervent umbra]

10/6

[oak walrus]

yes but what time

[fervent umbra]

idk

[hard ivy]

5pm swedish time most likely

[fervent umbra]

sounds good

[oak walrus]

LFG

[harsh badger]

when space update with space factories coming out?

[pearl walrus]

Youre specifically sent to exploit the planet

[dry mulch]

Would anyone wanna help me design my factory? I took a little break and am hopping back in

[clever pier]

dyson sphere project is that way -->

[harsh badger]

needs a merge

[lucid pagoda]

how do i avoid spaghetti when bringing belts to my factory?

[clever pier]

use verticality

to seperate crossing belts

build additional floors four walls high

run belts under ceilings, run belts undder floors

[simple echo]

I seriously underestimated how much power the particle accelerator hogs

[hollow vector]

#screenshots message @mortal ginkgo so when will he be ed ?

[fiery garden]

[mortal ginkgo]

B R U H

that boy got me 5 slugs

2 of them being purple

he is best doggo

👍

[hollow vector]

must mean he is fun to use the on him

[latent prawn]

filling said cannisters also increases the points

[prisma forge]

Nope. Heavy modular frames.

[prisma forge]

Am aware

[burnt ferry]

ah.. i didnt even added those as i knew i need a separate one for that anyway 😂

[burnt ferry]

wait a minute.... have to read up on those doggos again 🤔

[finite latch]

so I think I found a "things that should already be in the game"

we can now place belt holes where ever we want..
please say doors are next?

[prisma forge]

I also need to make the other phase 3 items

[burnt ferry]

nudge wall with door into other wall with gape at the right place

[prisma forge]

#screenshots message

this is total amount of machinery I'll need

[finite latch]

provided you have enough space.. would be nice to have a placable door

or just 2m walls.. with a door variety

[prisma forge]

it's counting miner mk.1 for some reason but it's mk.2

[burnt ferry]

tickets ftw 😂

but for phase 4 i need proper facilities as well now

[mortal ginkgo]

there is a chungus sized garage door in 1.1

its cool

[prisma forge]

oh hell yeah, I have a blueprint with a bunch of containers and once those fill up, I'll have a smart splitter waiting for the overflow so I can sink the excess resources

[mortal ginkgo]

#screenshots message

here is the door

[plain marten]

yay ive automated all phase 4 parts now

[burnt ferry]

ive put heavy frames and computers into sink right away.. from that i bought the stuff i needed to handcraft all the things... the longest was the one that needs computers and circuit boards itself

also i had 2 harddisk loot runs where i came back to salvage material and dna for > 100 tickets

[onyx fern]

Do Lizard Doggos just stop following you after a while or despawn? I've tamed like 3 but I only know where 1 is lol

[finite latch]

I think they wonder the world until unalived.. not sure if mobs will attack doggos or if only players can unalive them

[prisma forge]

#screenshots message

does my factory have an infestation problem?

[cursive moss]

What is a good place to start a massive factory at the first map?

[outer moth]

i got a 5090 but i can use frame generation

[prisma forge]

depends on what you count as massive and depends on what you picked as your first map. It's all the same map, but differente start locations.

[open sigil]

is there any way of setting up audio from a boombox all around a factory yet, or just need to place multiple boomboxes? (do they sync?)

[green fiber]

No and they also dont sync

[open sigil]

Someday (I hope)

[green fiber]

Its a boombox, not a facility wide audio system

[cursive moss]

It's the place with a lot of green don't remember what it's called tho and by massive I mean like big enough to fit half a city.

[open sigil]

I'm convinced we have the tech to wire up a facility wide audio system. Just have to convince ADA it will increase productivity.

[finite latch]

this game has boomboxes and boxes that go boom (coincidentally, not the same item)

[peak wasp]

So question

Is it a bad idea to create a facility that makes nothing but screws?

[prisma forge]

#screenshots message turbofuel powerplant is successul!

[prisma forge]

no

[prisma forge]

grassy fields? Also city size may vary lol. In any way, you can build massive factories anywhere really

[woeful yarrow]

watch out tho, that plan might screw you

ha get it?

[peak wasp]

Like screws I hear are such a meme to make and are so inconvenient and take so many I might as well make a facility that supplies screws to everything else...the place you go to get screwed

[peak wasp]

Dammit you made my joke

[woeful yarrow]

:p

[prisma forge]

nah once you unlock the cast screw alt recipe it becomes easy AF to make them

[peak wasp]

Maybe my goal should go for 1000 screws per minute

[cursive moss]

Aight

[woeful yarrow]

for early game its a good idea

[prisma forge]

it literally skips one whole step of the original recipe for basically the same amount consumed

[peak wasp]

Indeed I own it, its so good but I plan to upgrade to water based ingots

[prisma forge]

I will do that in my new factory. I plan on building a platform on the sea full of refineries making pure iron, copper and caterium ingots

[green fiber]

screws are only an early game discomfort.
in Tier 7 you encounter a part that behaves exactly the same as screws (Aluminum scrap - in terms of you need to transport a high volume per minute) yet everyone just deals with it fine

[peak wasp]

Oh I got myself a puppy

[unkempt shell]

Heya. Someone was posting on Reddit a few days ago. He had build two huge towers, but it seems like the post was taken down

Have anyone more info on this? Maybe saved a few screenshots?

[prisma forge]

it's not september yet calm down (/j)

[unkempt shell]

This album here was his: https://imgur.com/a/IzFcjGu

[woeful yarrow]

maybe @gaunt tulip can have a look 🙂

[open sigil]

gee I wonder what someone did with a two towers theme that ended up taken down.

[unkempt shell]

The Reddit post seemed quite popular and the build was amazing. I havent played since 0.8 and wanted back to try and replicate it

Does everything have to be about America?

[open sigil]

sorry, youl're right. maybe it was just a lord of the rings theme gone wrong.

[woeful yarrow]

... or just, 2 towers

nothing wrong with that

[peak wasp]

okay I hit half my goal

500 screws a minute

is it normal to use a awesome sink to test a factory

[midnight fog]

yes, resources are infinite so youre good

[peak wasp]

like if you want to test if everything is working 100% put your output into a sink and then it will test if your ratios are correct and if your power grid can handle everything

[neon kraken]

looking at my iron production area gives me anxiety for some unknown reason

[fresh wharf]

Thanks

[fleet wadi]

how do you adjust the angle for the jump pads?

[green fiber]

scroll with the mouse wheel after placing it with a click

[gaunt tulip]

Perhaps this Reddit Post is what you remember?
👉 LINK: https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1l3eufv/working_on_my_second_skyscraper_at_870m_it_would/

[zenith pecan]

That looks cool.

[peak wasp]

By getting a effective method of travel

Lol jump pads seem pretty useless

[fleet wadi]

i'm pretty early game rn

[slate rapids]

Oml I’m starting to play satisfactory again but my friend seems to be so ahead of me

I’m so unbelievably lost lmao

[peak wasp]

Ah okay lol

[static dune]

when pumping up a large elevation, is there a way to tell how often to place pumps or it's guesswork? first time laying pipes and don't want to have to re-do the whole thing

[prisma forge]

I just discovered you don't need to open the machine to paste the settings. You can just aim at it and paste.

[prisma forge]

a blue circle should appear in the pipe while you're holding the pump

[rustic otter]

when placing the pump the little blue ring goes up the pipe and then it ends and if u hold ctrl it snaps the next pump to where it needs to go

[neon kraken]

How do you upgrade miners and such?

[rustic otter]

progress and unlocking new parts, next miner upgrade is around oil i believe

[static dune]

thanks, will have a look!

[prisma forge]

tiers in the hub

[neon kraken]

As in, Without replacing the building, how do you achieve it

[static dune]

oil? oh dang. i just got coal but wanted faster mining :p

[prisma forge]

nope, it's before phase 3

[rustic otter]

oh

[prisma forge]

I remember using mk.2 to make steel factories

[neon kraken]

And how do you upgrade the conveyors?

[prisma forge]

same way

[clever pier]

is SCIM down for anyone else?

[neon kraken]

Same way as?

[prisma forge]

tiers in the hub

[clever pier]

ok its working now

[neon kraken]

No, thats how you unlock it, how do you upgrade them

[clever pier]

i got a bad gateway error first

[mortal ginkgo]

mouse over the belt and click

[onyx fern]

Can anyone give me any insight on this design for a coal plant? I'm still very unfamiliar with pipes and I'm not sure if something like this would even work.
#math-and-meta message

[urban root]

yea its down for me. Update its loading.

[mortal ginkgo]

when you have next upgrade selected

[prisma forge]

they appear with the other conveyor belts at the logistics tab

just select them (or assign them to the hotbar), hover over a conveyor belt of your choice and click.

[peak wasp]

there we go 1000 screws a minute

[neon kraken]

Thank you

[peak wasp]

now to figure out what to do with 1000 screws a minute

[frail sleet]

What i usually do is place a pump at a level where the water can reach, power it, then watch its status. The reported headlift will continually rise until it either levels off and stays within the range of the pump, or exceeds the pumps maximum. If it's the latter, you need more pumps higher up.

When placing extra pumps above, the last pump in the chain will update its headlift amount and you can tell from that if the next pump is too high or not.

e.g. if pump #1 says 40m headlift and it's a 50m pump, it's good. If it rises to 50, you have to lower the height of the next pump.

[noble zodiac]

Thank you! And yes, I use any mod I can get my hands on that helps me build what I imagine 🙂

[peak wasp]

So what can I use 1000 screws for

[prisma forge]

deposit and once it overflows, sink.

[prisma forge]

lol I wish I was creative

can't even imagine (I have aphantasia)

[static dune]

most useful, thanks! didn't realize you could also place pumps onto the pipes directly, and also get into by clicking on the pipe 😄

[latent prawn]

in my world, the only place i'm using screws is direct belted into some copper rotor assemblers.

[shut stream]

Currently I've got all my copper outputs just piping into an industrial storage, ik I'll need to amend it eventually

[latent prawn]

outside of early game noobness, screws are really not a major component of things and other high volume components are much more tricky to deal with. as such, don't bother spending the time on such things

[shut stream]

Yeah but iirc aren't other copper things used later game

[latent prawn]

copper is needed en-masse for nuclear pasta

[shut stream]

Plus it's hardly an effort to improve my setup, modularity and scalability were major factors in building my current factory

[reef basin]

sink

[rustic otter]

chainsaw and the ticket shop

[abstract heron]

i can't wait for 1.1 EXP on the stable branch

[clever pier]

does the alternate dark ionised fuel actually make ionised fuel worthwhile?

it doesn't require power shards

if you are already making rocket fuel and you need to make DMC anyway for end game items maybe its worth it?

[peak wasp]

so this is my build so far
#screenshots message

[prisma forge]

cool check mine out #screenshots message

[static dune]

are water pumps really really slow or am i doing something wrong? I have the pumps below the blue marker, just incase, but the pump is pumping water soooooo slowly into the next set of pipes. this is ruddy confusing. Should the pipes fill up really fast? i'm presuming yes as the pumps have a lot of output

the next 2 pipes after pump are finally full, the one after thats flow rate is all over the place from 4-40m3. and that pipe is well below the marker of where to put the next pump

[peak wasp]

damn I can't even consider that much usage

[paper wedge]

out of curiousity does minor clipping like this bother you guys, do you nudge the build over a tad or nah?
#screenshots message

[median shell]

a large pipe network or many machines can take quite a while to fill. verify you have enough headlift and your consumers aren't exceeding your flow rate. it's also a good practice to let pipes fill completely by turning off a few or all machines in the system until the network is full

[elder apex]

you can use lifts to avoid that if you would rather

[paper wedge]

oh, run it higher on the ceiling, and use a lift to lower it down? i will try ty!

[static dune]

the section in the middle of a pipe, with the little window and you see the 3 rings move as water flows. is that just a visual thing or that section serves a purpose? as i have a fair few very small sections of pipe

[maiden jacinth]

whats that belt going to

[maiden jacinth]

belts on the ceiling look pretty clean and open up a surpising amount of space to walk

[median shell]

it is simply a visual flow indicator

[paper wedge]

on the ceiling then drop them in? not sure how i would split cleanly then. I'm trying make a efficient rotor automation. So these are my rods, 60m rods for 3 rotor assembly machines. Next I need to try to get the 300 screws/m

#screenshots message

#screenshots message
this is the building im dealing with, i can expand if needed im still new so still figuring things out

[maiden jacinth]

ngl that belt loop does annoy me a little
id probably just put a bit more space between the machine rows and put the merger straight into the splitter

[static dune]

i think i just needed 1 more pump near the top >.< but selecting the pump on the pipes didn't show the blue marker. well it seems to be ok, so yay. thanks

[paper wedge]

someone taught me about manifold setups so been trying that

[paper wedge]

good advice ill mess around

[maiden jacinth]

might be able to get away with just moving the splitter a little closer to that smelter

[gaunt tulip]

@void gorge - I posted information about next weeks release of Version 1.1 on the Official Reddit, based on your comments from last weeks (June 3, 2025) Livestream.
👉 View Reddit Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1l6krsu/psa_version_11_release_to_live_stable_branch_on/

❓ You have not stated when the next Livestream on both Twitch and YouTube will state, as normally for Releases Streams you start earlier then normal. Could you post the official start time of the Livestream for Tuesday, June 10, 2025? Thanks in advance. 😄

[warm ice]

This game really needs to have a better safety mechanism for the toilet to prevent you from flushing things like mercer spheres and somersloops

[frozen ingot]

Don't do that

[trim vine]

why are you flushing anything to begin with

[warm ice]

Because its funny

I didnt think it would work

[trim vine]

Fuck around, looks like you found out

[warm ice]

Yeah 😔

I got bored of my old factory and decided to start again

Endgame is so boring to do

[fossil plume]

Can I have a truck load at station 1 and then unload both at station 2 & 3? I placed stations like that, I drive 1 → 2 → 3 but after the recording it only has pause label on station 2 & 3. Is it possible?

[elder apex]

you are right, it is kinda funny that you thought that flushing artifacts down the toilet was a good idea

[warm ice]

And my factory is a spaghetti

[trim vine]

boring or hard?

[warm ice]

Boring

[trim vine]

you say that, then I see spaget comment and wonder 😛

[stone python]

no, youll need seperate routes

well, technically you could have it unload at 2 and then 3, but it wont unload anything at 3 unless it cant unload everything at 2

and in that case, it will unload everything at 2 untill it gets completly full, then it will have something for 3

[fossil plume]

Yes I know I can't unload partially, problem is the recording, it almost like if I have load → unload → unload the game forgets about the first load after I save the recording

weird, after I rebuilt the second unload station it recorded correctly. Maybe it's a user issue then

[prisma forge]

#screenshots message

am I supposed to be attracted to a conveyor wall? Can't stop staring at this.

[unkempt blade]

better blueprint it so you can revisit that feeling whenever you want

[prisma forge]

can't wait to see it working

but it'll take like two or three more weekends for me to be done with this factory

I still need to make two other resources plus train tracks and a refinery platform for the pure ingot recipes

[unkempt blade]

I heard bird flu can last for up to two weeks if you need some time to focus

[prisma forge]

lmao I can't take a two weeks break, I'm still in the experience period

welp time to hook it all up to the power grid

[abstract void]

just started using coal, any tips?

[trim vine]

Run coal to water, not water to coal

[trim vine]

Build ON the water

carve out 3x3 foundational holes for the extractors

[abstract void]

you mean over it?

[trim vine]

what biome are you in?

[abstract void]

aaah i´m new so idk

[trim vine]

Did you choose the grassland, rocky desert, forest, or desert?

[abstract void]

didn´t know i coulld choose but i could say it grassland

[trim vine]

ok, then build NEXT to a lake, not over it, since water is a very limiting resource in your starter biome

yes, it will be a long, long, line of coal going to the water, but its better than a long pipe for your first time working with fluids

[abstract void]

yeah water is hard to find

okay that´s what did, i had a llittle lake over a hill and used the hight to transport the water to the coall generator kinda close and the coal lline is way longer that i though i´ll be

thx for the tips

[latent prawn]

alternately, a little distance northwest of the grassy plain is a lake with 4 normal coal nodes ideal for coal power

[trim vine]

@latent prawn is correct

#satisfactory message

If you go alil to the Northwest, there is a lake with 4 coal nodes (one may be blocked with a rock, you need something to clear that SPOILER: ||You need a nobelisk|| )

There is a massive lake there you can build on.

If I may, one other good tip, segregate your power plant from the rest of the grid/other factories. That way if there is a problem, you can cut the power going from the single point out from a plant to the rest of your world and fix it

[dreamy kestrel]

make biocoal and burn that

[latent prawn]

its easier to move power than water or coal, so building your power at a spot that has both allows your transport infrastructure to be a single power line

[trim vine]

They aint wrong when they right

[latent prawn]

i mean, its common sense, but worth saying nonetheless

[trim vine]

Not to new players, its great advice

The number of people I have helped who have tried to run 5 miles of pipe for a coal gennie is wild

[dreamy kestrel]

eh it wouldnt really work that way if the game had realistic voltage restrictions on electrical lines

the fact that you can pass through 1 TW on a thin copper cable is the reason why the game's power system is so simple

[latent prawn]

yeah, i mean we all did it our first time, and you don't know what you don't yet know

[true mulch]

@cobalt abyss do you need anything?

[latent prawn]

the other piece of newbie advice i'll give is that the game deceives you initially about sense of scale, things seem really far away at first, but after you start building in a direction and have some landmarks as touchstone, all of a sudden things that seem far really don't anymore

[dreamy kestrel]

you also just gradually get faster methods of moving around

the jetpack for example makes a 1 km distance feel like a short hop

[dry mulch]

would anyone wanna help me make some of my builds look good?

[latent prawn]

yeah, your means of moving around improves but relying on any one method besides the trust bunny hop to cover distances is more of a convenience so you can sip your coffee while making a frequent trip 🙂

i have a lot of hours in the game at this point, and i'll say that really my primary means of getting around is still slide jumping with some jetpack hovers in between. you can cover a lot of distance quickly that way

don't get me wrong, i'll hop on a train that's going where i want to go if it is right there, or use a power mainline to zip when its convenient

[trim vine]

#off-topic-general message

[latent prawn]

lately i've been using portals more and they're pretty dang nice, but so late game that I kinda feel their utility isn't anything to write home about

[trim vine]

-stares in hypertooooob cannons-

[latent prawn]

i'm not a huge fan of cannons

[trim vine]

really?

por que

[latent prawn]

they're function is so intertwined with your game's framerate (which for me after 1000 hrs of building sorta sucks)

[trim vine]

this is v fair

[latent prawn]

like on a fresh save, they work great, but constantly having to retune them when your fps starts tanking is kind of a time hole

i wish we still had the update 7 zipline

the loss of that & steel coated plate make me sad

[trim vine]

what made the super cool?

[latent prawn]

it had no cap on the max speed

you also didn't have power towers either, so it took some skill to stay on and dodge the power poles, but it was incredibly quick means of transit

(really fun to boot)

turned making trips into a personal best contest, lol

[dense violet]

there are more coal nodes next to water than not >.>

[trim vine]

not in the grasslands dingleberry ❤️

[dense violet]

the best coal spot in the grass lands is right next to a giant lake

and that's most of the coal in the area

[dreamy kestrel]

new players arent exactly rigorously studying SCIM

[dense violet]

you don't need to. Ping that pinger

[dreamy kestrel]

the closest coal nodes to most starts are the southern ones

[trim vine]

yeah, Northwestern, most new people in the grasslands are south/central

and will go to the two pure nodes near by

[dense violet]

that doesn't mean it's 'hard to find'
that means it's a 'not the first one you have in front of your face'

[dreamy kestrel]

i just dont see why youd nitpick wording like this lol

[dense violet]

I'm enthused that your definition of nitpick is stating something is comletely wrong

[trim vine]

the first two, logically, that new players will attend are the pure nodes, neither of them have water nearby

And without the SCIM or prior knowledge of the game, the 4 by the lake arent at the top of their list

[dense violet]

that still doesn't mean it's hard to find. It's ... the barest amount of exploration

you sound like the people who bitch about having to bring in ore from a node that's 300m away

[trim vine]

Not at all, you're looking at it through the lense of 1000's of hours of play

New players arent thinking like that

[dreamy kestrel]

no im just saying its understandable that a new player doesnt realize how plentiful coal + water comboes are

[trim vine]

especially in the damn grasslands

[dense violet]

and I'm pointing out that 'coal near water is hard to find' is jsut plain wrong

[sullen gull]

Remember, if you don't play the game like @dense violet , you're wrong obviously

[dense violet]

it's simply just not right in front of you when you land in the pod

[dreamy kestrel]

yes its an "incorrect" statement in the abstract but in the context of the conversation its very clear what they mean

like idk, this is literally part of why the grasslands is designed the way it is

its meant to tutorialize players that sometimes the closest node isnt always the best

[trim vine]

I am stating you are wrong and looking at it through a privlaged perspective

The number of new players who dont even fully go for the MAM early on alone are astounding, and you have to remind them.

If you have never looke at a whole and complate map of the game, you wont be thinking that first

[dreamy kestrel]

the grasslands is designed to tutorialize "actually you shouldnt be afraid of expansion, it often makes things a lot easier"

the statement "its hard to find water" is obviously incorrect in an objective sense, but from the perspective of a new player who started in the grasslands its somewhat understandable - which is the point

[trim vine]

imo the rocky desert should be the true starter area, but thats just me 😛

[dreamy kestrel]

and i think talking about the relative prevelance of coal near water vs coal far from it is the wrong way to look at it

[sullen gull]

Not just you 😏

[dreamy kestrel]

since the average new player is not going to the blue crater for a coal plant

[frail sleet]

cave would be a shitshow, ui around them is not good

[dreamy kestrel]

you mean players getting confused by the quartz cave?

[trim vine]

to me thats a great lesson to learn early

plus the only things in the cave are ||quarts and SAM||

[frail sleet]

people have a lot easier and more important lessons to learn 1hr into the game

[trim vine]

grasslands has that damn ||ravine|| that traips players 😛

[sullen gull]

Liike that you don't have to HOLD E or space 🤣

[dreamy kestrel]

doesnt one of the grassland quartz pings take you into the red bamboo forest?

[frail sleet]

no, to a river area

maybe if you scan quartz in the northwest

[trim vine]

good lessons to be learned there to

like dont go to the red forest

[dreamy kestrel]

nah you see

the swamp does this much better by putting on a filter that makes it look like you stepped right into silent hill

[hollow vector]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/960225617981354084/1370381280675496096/38969d44593671a99bdcf11f54ac7982.gif

[sullen gull]

Looks comfy actually lol

[hollow vector]

think about doing the same thing that cat is doing to the tree to the cat

[sullen gull]

To the tree ... to .. the ... cat ... huh ❓

[hollow vector]

yes.

im just waiting for ksi to put that in a song now

[sullen gull]

thinks he may need to start drinking

is probably even more sad that he knows who ksi is 😒

[zenith pecan]

I finally got the ingots into the tunnel network 🥳 , also the overflow sink system under the junction so I can leave the processing plant running with no connections.

[prisma forge]

satisfactory does have cloud save right?

[mortal ginkgo]

I once went to red forest with a single rebar gun, no gas or radioactive protection.

Coz I thought it looked cute outside, it should be cute inside!

Spoiler, it was not cute. Not at all. No cuteness. Only suffering.

[dense violet]

it does but people have had issues with steam cloud saves before. I'd do a manual back up

also bps aren't cloud

[latent prawn]

swamp caterium too

[dark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/glorgus-satisfactory-the-3th-gif-24216052

embed mood

but praise glorgus the 3rd

[mortal ginkgo]

#satisfactory-memes

[dark thicket]

: (

[prisma forge]

#screenshots message

I CAN DO THIS???????????

[mortal ginkgo]

yep

[dense violet]

... math?

[prisma forge]

I mean using the search bar to do math

[dense violet]

you can also do math in hte machine clocking

[prisma forge]

#screenshots message

Also why the heck is my power production oscillating? Like, all my fuel generators are running with 100% efficiency, and so is my coal powerplants. Never had a problem with those.
Do geothermal generators affect this?

[prisma forge]

it started looking like that after I made my turbofuel powerplant

[dense violet]

well geo thermal goes up and down yes, but that looks a bit ragety for just geothermal

it could be geo though

[leaden ether]

geothermal fluctuates from 600 to 1800 MW per gyser constantly

[dense violet]

do you have multiple hooked up?

[prisma forge]

alright that might explain it

[prisma forge]

Yup. like 5 of them