satisfactory

[solid grail]

+6 will be very usefull rn so

[pearl walrus]

Id take many recipies over 6 slots any day

[dense violet]

fair 🙂 you're never locked out of recipes

[trim vine]

last thing, if you stay on top of your hard drives, and you research all you can, every time you unlock a new crafting recipe (like say Motors or something) you can then start scanning your hard drives again, and get all the alt recipes related to those items

[reef basin]

personally I would say no, since with DD you rarely need any inventory storage anyway

[prisma thicket]

For me it depends when I get the +6 slots. If it's still early Phase 1, I take that over just about anything. Later on it depends what the other option is.

[pearl walrus]

Thats crazy

[analog violet]

Is there one good way to attach a new building's conveyer lines to a pre-existing one or is it dependent on the building? I'm having trouble retrofitting an old building to work with something I am starting to make

I am trying to connect the buildings and they are not the closest

[solid grail]

Alright thanks!

[prisma thicket]

DD needs some upgrades before I'd say it's worth relying on for 100% of your building needs, like at least 200% capacity and 60 items per minute speed.

[reef basin]

sure, but I don't want to waste HDDs for things that will become outdated soon. same for cast screws, etc.

[rustic otter]

quick question, how much coal per minute do i need for 1 coal gen at normal OC?

[reef basin]

the coal gen tells you that in its UI

[solid grail]

When I built my coal power plant, I had to transport a lot of items my inventory was always full.

[rustic otter]

where in the ui?

[prisma thicket]

It's nice having the extra inventory space when exploring though, let's you pick up and carry some of the higher tier parts, even if you don't have the manual uploader upgrade.

[dense violet]

over the fuel box

there's also the wiki

!wikisearch CG

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[analog violet]

Is the Story in the new update any good?

[rustic otter]

thx guys been a while since i played

[prisma thicket]

On the left side, there's a little clickable button that shows the burn rate of the fuels you have available currently.

[analog violet]

I'm still playing on my save from before there was a story

[pearl walrus]

Yeah me too, it works🤞

[rustic otter]

ive been clicking that and nothing pops up, prob cause i havent put coal in

[analog violet]

You can do the story on an old save?

I thought it required me to make a new file

[prisma thicket]

It's interesting if you want to experience the story, gives you some context on the things you're doing and collecting.

[pearl walrus]

I havent migrated since u4

[prisma thicket]

The little orange button on the top right corner of the fuel display

[solid grail]

💀 why

[pearl walrus]

But you might miss some stuff they added earlier, all the voicelines for everythubg reset thiugh. Like ada telling how sick I am for placing coal gens

[rustic otter]

i clicked that since i knew from previous saves with fuel gen but nothing popped up

[analog violet]

❓

[pearl walrus]

Because i didnt want to do the same stuff over again? Wheres the fun in placing the same mashine again but somewehere else.

[prisma thicket]

Oh, well to answer your initial question then, it's 15 per minute for normal coal at 100% clock speed

[analog violet]

Whats U4

[prisma thicket]

So 120 coal feeds 8 gens evenly.

[pearl walrus]

Update 4 from the early access

[rustic otter]

aight thx, i just set up 8 coal gens for a proper factory set up for power and i plan on increasing that

[solid grail]

Hmm ig if you don't like starting over.

[prisma thicket]

Good plan, my coal power setups are usually 48 gens by the time I'm done with them.

[pearl walrus]

Yea i dontnreally see the point. Maybe once ive actually finished the game, but im gonna do some fun stuff in this save before anything else

[dense violet]

the whole thing is a bit broke on an old save. apparently things don't trigger right

[rustic otter]

my current factory that isnt on the foundations i planned just to get me thru the first phase

[dense violet]

but the story is also very light

[pearl walrus]

How so? It seemed to have worked perfectly fine for me

[prisma thicket]

You might also miss ADA saying "Choo Choo Mother********" when you unlock trains.

[pearl walrus]

Oh ye i missed that or i dont remember getting that back then lol

[analog violet]

Is it worth starting a new save

[solid grail]

Why not switch now? That way, you won't have to place the same machines again as much compared to when you're finished with the game.

[prisma thicket]

If you want to experience the story as it was intended, yes, otherwise probably not.

[pearl walrus]

??????? Brother my save has 500 hours on it😭😭😭

[solid grail]

oh hahaha nvm then

[pearl walrus]

I find engame fun, i dont really like placing endless biomass burners and coal stuff just to run 20 reinforced plates

[prisma thicket]

I've restarted after 300+ hours on a save, no big deal lol it's fun to see how much you can refine your early game builds.

[elder apex]

wonder if you could load up your save in SCIM, save it as a megaprint, start a new game, and then reapply the megaprint to get back to where you were.

[pearl walrus]

You mean copy pasting the save file and making a backup😭😭😭?

[dense violet]

I would say so if only to have a nice clean game with all the new features

new items. Everything else. Plus it helps polish skills

[analog violet]

I'll bite, sometime when I'm not busy anyway

[prisma thicket]

Maybe wait until after the 10th then, since 1.1 is coming then.

[analog violet]

got it

[dense violet]

besides once you've got the hang of it it's pretty quick to go up the tiers

[radiant breach]

can someone help me with a quick math calculation, and help me figure out how many buildings i need?

[dense violet]

and 1.1 just has a few new features. Nothing staggering

[dense violet]

sure #math-and-meta

[radiant breach]

oh bet

[prisma thicket]

Vertical nudge is a gods-send, same with infinite nudge. At least for someone with shaky hands lol

[rustic otter]

the only thing i want is small nudge feature from the infinite nudge mod

[prisma thicket]

Hold ctrl while nudging, it moves in smaller increments

[urban root]

https://tenor.com/view/struggle-austin-powers-driving-chaos-gif-7576924

Yes! Getting angles lined up is like^^^

[rustic otter]

by half but i want those really small ones

[solid grail]

Why tho to build or decorate?

[rustic otter]

my last save was insane spaghetti and i wish to fix that

hers the main part of my last factory #screenshots message

[solid grail]

Can you line up anything with small nudge

[solid grail]

damnn haha

[rustic otter]

from the mod infinite nudge, yes, vanilla nudge, no

that was my entire factory, 1 constructor and so forth for every 1 material and if i needed that material for smth else i tossed a splitter on that, only time i made another factory was if i needed a new resource which i tossed into the mix

and yet i managed to beat the game over a course of 300 hours and somehow kept 3 nuclear plants up

[near frost]

anyone know how the Ryzen 5 5600G performs?

[solid grail]

How did you manage like that 😂

[solid grail]

Do you have the game already or no?

[rustic otter]

i really dont know

[near frost]

i am gone get my PC today with the game but now i dont have it

[rustic otter]

i5-3570 3.4 GHz 4 Core is the minimum and the Ryzen 5 5600X or i5-12400 or is recomended

are u going to go solely off of the integrated graphics?

[solid grail]

I think it will run a bit slow. but you can set the graphics to medium or something.

[near frost]

yes until i get my GPU later

[rustic otter]

it should be able to handle the beginning part of the game pretty decent if u put settings low but dont place a bunch of batteries as i had issues with my frames with a 2060 (yes I know but it performs pretty well for the games i play)

[solid grail]

look dms i send a site where you can see if your pc can run the game.

[near frost]

ok i will see

[solid grail]

[solid grail]

I bet haha.

[solid grail]

I have an old pc with a 2060 still in it.

[near frost]

found a Vid on YT, the guy got 60Fps lowest settings but that was before 1.0 and i think the game got a lot more optimized after 1.0 so i should be good

[real field]

I can't tell if I am fucking stupid or if my math is not mathing because I should have enough coal to power my infrastructure but there is not enough power

Is there like a channel to judge my design?

[solid grail]

#math-and-meta

[rustic otter]

#screenshots message

[solid grail]

Eyyy now does that not feel nice compared to spaghetti 😂

[rustic otter]

very much

looks better, i can diagnose problems better and faster, only thing i have is there is no straight feature for the pipes

[solid grail]

or make a post in #1038092680493801533

[rustic otter]

now i gotta set up the actual factory thats gonna go above this whole thing

[solid grail]

ye kinda sucks

[shell sluice]

wdym, pipes have a straight build mode

[rustic otter]

not without mods, straight mode is for belts

[shell sluice]

um no?

[rustic otter]

are u talking about the horizontal vertical thing?

[dense violet]

only in 1.1

[shell sluice]

ah right guess it's cause im playing 1.1

[shut stream]

How so?

[rustic otter]

where do i see my game session version?

[trim vine]

Alternate recipes?

[shell sluice]

youre on 1.0 unless you opt into the beta (experimental 1.1) in steam settings

[trim vine]

1.1 drops in 5 days!

(The 10th I think)

[rustic otter]

oh i made this save on may 10th i just havent really started playing it until now lol

when 1.1 drops will my save update to 1.1 with the features?

[hollow vector]

check https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/578592241451270144

[reef basin]

But also you don't necessarily need to

[faint yacht]

hello, I saw on different youtube video, while on construction the player can lift an object, conveyors Poles, Pipeline Support, merger,. Is there a keybinding which allow that ? I only manage to make it go forward, backward, left, right. But not up or down.

I am not in beta.

[solid grail]

you need a mod to nudge up and down

[pallid hearth]

its not out on the stable branch yet, it will however be released on june 9th therefore making it work on the stable branch

[faint yacht]

OK, so either use a mod or use the beta or wait the june 9th. Thx

[solid grail]

You can also turn on the beta and play 1.1 right now.

[solid grail]

dead chat

[static finch]

nah

everyone js sleeping, not taking the forever nap

[solid grail]

at least your alive 😂

[static finch]

yurt

the life of night shift

[solid grail]

how late is it for you?

[static finch]

3:31 am

[solid grail]

ooh oke

i dont use am or pm

[static finch]

0332 for me

[shut stream]

Well dang, I just got my first coal generator set up, thinking it was going to solve all my power problems... but it only generates 75 mw

[solid grail]

why build one?

[shut stream]

To automate power over the biomass generators?

[static finch]

try to find a spot with a lot of coal veins, ideally near water. buid coal generators by the water and belt the coal to them.

[solid grail]

i mean why not more

[shut stream]

That's what I'll have to do

[static finch]

i have 8 coal gens overclocked at 250%

[shut stream]

How do you overclock it

[solid grail]

3 water pumps can supply enough for 8 coal generators

[static finch]

research blue power slugs in the mam

[shut stream]

Still gotta build myself the mam

[static finch]

youll figure it out from there

also start the quartz tree asap

[solid grail]

with a pure coal node or overclocked miner you can power 24 generators

[static finch]

you get bladerunners that increase your movement speed and jump height. also reduces fall dmg

[shut stream]

Yeah I got a pure coal node hooked up to my home bade

Waters my main issue atm

[solid grail]

Nice you'll also need a t2 belt for the coal (120/min) and 9 water extractors that way you can power 24 generators

[static finch]

im going to bed but you can dm me if u have more questions or want advice @shut stream. also........ wise words from the veterans here, dont try to transport liquids far distances, its always easier to belt solids to wherever they need to be. eg. refineries and generators

[shut stream]

Gotcha, I was noticing that

[static finch]

liquids have weird behaviors in satisfactory.

[shut stream]

Does size of the water the pump is on master?

[static finch]

no

as long as its in water youre fine

[shut stream]

Gotcha

[faint yacht]

Naah, liquid are easy.... If you don't mind loosing all the hair on your head wondering why this doesn't work.

[static finch]

the pond or lake you put the extractor(s) in wont dissapear

[mortal ginkgo]

I will disagree with the above statement. Most issues comes from the lack of pumps and not waiting until all pipes are full.

The important deal is to startup liquid using buildings to start up one by one instead of insntantly.

[dense violet]

All over clocking generators does is save space.

You’ll need to just build more

[clear berry]

hey guys, im getting a wierd behavior ive never seen b4. my trains are all stuck on unload at 4 items/min on MK4 lifts and belts, all are mk4 tripple checked. im so confused anyone seen this b4? couldnt find any reported bugs or old posts

[pearl walrus]

#1038092680493801533

[static finch]

in my opinion, its easier to belt the coal to the generators instead of running pipes from a water extractor x meters

[clear berry]

oh im new here sorry ill post there

[pearl walrus]

All good, i just redirected you so you could get proper help👍🤞

[mortal ginkgo]

I dont understand it. First you are talking about coal, second you talk about water as if coal gens asks for either coal or water

[pearl walrus]

? The guy is saying belts dont run into problems the longer the belt is, but pipes do. So hes saying keep pipes short

[static finch]

@trim vine explained it better to me than i can to you

[static finch]

exactly

[mortal ginkgo]

? the way it was said rather odd.

[mortal ginkgo]

I had no problems with coal gen water piping to be fair

[pearl walrus]

Whatever now you get it

[mortal ginkgo]

the one thing one need to keep note is sloshing which can be prevented by a valve or a pump

[static finch]

that can be avoided with short pipes

[pearl walrus]

Still, from an efficiency standpoint, it takes less time x resources to belt to liquid and not the other way around♥️🤞

[mortal ginkgo]

I have the longest possible pipes brother.

Like, it isn't directly a problem. Sloshing happens for various reasons.

[faint yacht]

I'm remaking my two Oil Generator plant (each with tenth of Oil Generator), and learning that we must let the pipe be full, help a lot. A lot less of problem.

[pearl walrus]

Oh boy

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, you do you, and you give advice via your experience. But I saw people doing kilometers of pipes.

[pearl walrus]

Mind showing them off?😍

[static finch]

everyone has their preferances, i just find it easier to have short pipes and longer convoyer belts

[mortal ginkgo]

First you open your favorite browser. Then you use your keyboard to type "reddit" or "youtube". You know the rest I am sure.

[pearl walrus]

Nah it keeps asking me wether im above the age of 18 and mom said not to lie so it wont let me😭

[rustic otter]

for yt or reddit?

[pearl walrus]

Reddit🤞🤙

[rustic otter]

reddit it should ask u but yt should be free grounds

[solid grail]

[pearl walrus]

[rustic otter]

[solid grail]

yup great story

[true juniper]

I'd say r/woosh if I could access the website

[mortal ginkgo]

people that are new to internets are cute

[solid grail]

nee

[mortal ginkgo]

also my doggo is literally based

bro brought me 4 slugs so far, 1 blue, 2 yellow, 1 purple

bro knows I suck at this game

[solid grail]

🥵

[shut stream]

This logically makes sense as pipes don't handle inclines well

[mortal ginkgo]

thats... wrong 😛

[pearl walrus]

YOU dont handle inclines well

[shut stream]

I gotta build pumps for inclines though, but conveyors handle them without additional infrastructure

[rustic otter]

have they made liquid physics any easier during my time off? I recently got greenlit for a new site and idk if new tech has erupted

[solid grail]

eh

[solid grail]

they made it 100x harder

🫡

[rustic otter]

than it already was? did it apply to the gasses at all?

[mortal ginkgo]

pipes are a late game item now. if you want to put water in your coal gens, you have to do that manually

[true juniper]

I kinda want that now

[rustic otter]

so i need a pump for a 5m increase in height?

[solid grail]

yes efficiency first

[true juniper]

Imagine having to carry buckets of water to your coal generators xD

[mortal ginkgo]

Buckets is a new held hand item now, you need two hands to carry them and cant sprint

also cant use ladders etc, realism baby

[true juniper]

Sounds like they took some inspiration from SOT ^^

[solid grail]

and the bucket is leaking so you have to hurry

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah, long distance buckets are bad too

[rustic otter]

naw we gotta use the coffee cup but we have to buy a new one with tickets

wait no coupons

[solid grail]

lol i just fed a coupon to the shredder and got a cyber truck in the shop.

[rustic otter]

i only did that and got the cyber truck for the achiev

i want to say i feel like the factory cart can go faster on land

[solid grail]

just unlocked tractors

lets see how this works..

[rustic otter]

they're, finnicky

unless its cross map id much rather still belt stuff unless i need an amount of smth that exceeds my belts

[solid grail]

Im gonna build a simple road

[rustic otter]

thats probably a lot better then going across terrain

[near frost]

i think there should be a chat for finding pepole to play with

just saying

[solid grail]

#1201555265942724758

[near frost]

.

😑😑

[solid grail]

[mortal ginkgo]

imagine finding me to play with, oh boy, the drama

[solid grail]

[mortal ginkgo]

"Leon can you stop decorating? We are still at phase 1!" "But but.."

[solid grail]

foundations first factory second paint job third and ill unlock the rest later

[mortal ginkgo]

I couldn't agree more, like, there is no way I can disagree with this statement -at all-.

[solid grail]

right

[mortal ginkgo]

fiscit foundation is enough for my shenanigans too

and when we get signs, oh boy

[solid grail]

as long as the factory is 100% efficient idc

[mortal ginkgo]

pretty factory > efficient factory, sorry.

I am not making the rules 😔

[solid grail]

[true juniper]

At least it will be pretty to look at while you wait 4 hours for your 5 reinforced iron plates to finish 😅

[rustic otter]

FICSIT is your employer, they want effieciency

[mortal ginkgo]

you guys automated reinforced iron plates? Wow

[rustic otter]

finish your job and complete phase 5, then tidy up

[solid grail]

nah i craft them by hand every time

[rustic otter]

ive had them automated

[mortal ginkgo]

Yeah but what if other companies look at the factories and see "lol bro still has buildings outside"

[rustic otter]

maximum air flow

[solid grail]

yup no cooling needed

😎

[rustic otter]

therfore maximum cooling and so on the machines face no overheating issues

[timid arrow]

hi im kina new to the game and now i am at the part where i wannt to biuld steam generator where can i find water ?

[mortal ginkgo]

bro I made this without jetpacks, I still dont have oil lols #screenshots message

[rustic otter]

holy hell

what does it make?

[solid grail]

damn your good

[true juniper]

Water usually likes to chill at coasts, I think

[mortal ginkgo]

I am still working on a less-pimple version, it really has pimples lol

[mortal ginkgo]

12 constructors of concrete etc

[solid grail]

ill send my coal power plant is ss brb

[mortal ginkgo]

We are not ready for this'

[solid grail]

😏

[rustic otter]

he said in #math-and-meta he managed to power 48 with 2 coal nodes

[solid grail]

damn i died

[mortal ginkgo]

coal gen looking too stronk for bro 😭

[rustic otter]

im wondering if he is fully overclocking 2 T3 miners on pure nodes

[prime crane]

Is it safe to play the 1.1 experimental? I lowk can't wait for 10th

[mortal ginkgo]

there are still some weird bugs but its alright to start

[solid grail]

no im just using t1 miner on pure and another on normal but i overclocked it

[mortal ginkgo]

just prepare yourself for unforseen consequences

[solid grail]

#screenshots

[prime crane]

Game breaking bugs or..?

[rustic otter]

just make a new save and find out

[mortal ginkgo]

not really, just that vehicle z axis looking is reversed right now lol

and some BP shenanigans, nothing big

[rustic otter]

how much power is all of that making?

[solid grail]

3600mw

[rustic otter]

i feel like that should be a lot more, but its coal gens

[solid grail]

ye

[radiant breach]

It took me over 12 hours

but i finally completed my first Versatile Framework Factory

[shut stream]

Congratulations! That'll probably be my next big factory

But oh boy is it gonna be a headache

[cedar kestrel]

is there a way to remove unused (empty) items from the dimensional depot?

[zenith pecan]

Unfortunately, not that I've seen, no.

At least not unmodded, and I don't know if save editing can do it.

[cedar kestrel]

Ive only used SCIM so far, cant find it there either

[hard ivy]

It's definitely somewhere in the save file

But so far I haven't found a way to decode them

[zenith pecan]

Two things I wish for with the depot system. a depleted item disappears on its own, and the ability to drag in order to change item order in there.

[boreal musk]

accidentally puts leaves on depot, now it stay there forever

[zenith pecan]

Hence one of my wishes for depleted items vanishing 😦

[pallid ridge]

why do we need fans

in the update

[leaden turret]

health and safety

[pallid ridge]

damn

gud for health and safety

[leaden turret]

I mean you'll notice they don't do anything gameplay-wise, only for aesthetics, which one supposes could be a meta-commentary on the effectiveness of health and safety compliance vis-a-vis space capitalism

or was just the design team went "fan go brrr"

[pallid ridge]

i alr love this server

[leaden turret]

biggest trolls in this server work for coffee stain

cough <@&370483737957236737> cough

[pallid ridge]

lols

[leaden turret]

has receipts https://archive.satisfactory.video/topics/trolling/

[swift kernel]

I mean, I just put everything in the DD

I don't know why y'all keep wanting to keep things minimal

[cedar kestrel]

"I dont know why you want to keep things the way you want" this is what you sound like

[swift kernel]

Yes, so please explain. Are you all hunting through your UI every time? There's a search bar, pin 📍 feature, and items get automatically pulled out during construction and crafting.

[ivory condor]

Is that you gman?

[swift kernel]

I'm just surprised because this is the second time I've heard this complaint and I genuinely don't understand it

[cedar kestrel]

imagine you have a box in your home. theres nothing in this box, you never use this box, and honestly you got it by accident, but you cannot remove it from your house. like a curse one could say. This is the experience we are describing

[swift kernel]

It's literally just an entry in a spreadsheet.

[cedar kestrel]

so you dont care about the box, thats fine, some people do

[obsidian zodiac]

it feels nice to be acknowledged

[swift kernel]

Hi Jason, I'm on here causing trouble, I'm sorry

[prime crane]

HOLY SHIT DNA CAPSULES ARE INSANE

[swift kernel]

You're in for so many tickets

They slow down a little bit later, but the first time you're using them, it's like printing money

[prime crane]

i deadass waited like years for coupons and i didn't know it was so eazy. i already have 16

[zenith pecan]

Hmm, I need to design a micro bauxite refinery to deal with 300 ore, I didn't want the setup to look like a tumor attached to the full scale plant that is eating 12000.

[distant hill]

🤔 That moment when you wish you could copy paste a huge piece... I just did 1800 plastic... now for the 1800 rubber...

Slight variations of course between the two, but a lot of it is the same

[zenith pecan]

I still need to grab the spire coast for doing that large scale, I only have 240 rubber/plastic for depot feeding due to my power station byproduct, I have no dedicated production yet.

[distant hill]

Oh I know where to do it, just saying... I just got done with the plastic.. the rubber will be the same factory again, slight variations of course.

[boreal musk]

its just an ocd thing

i want to keep my depot list clean

cant sleep when i knew theres 0/2500 leaves list in my depot

[swift kernel]

What if you leave 2500 leaves in your depot instead?

[boreal musk]

i only put something that can be automated in my depot list

[hard ivy]

make it 2500/2500

[swift kernel]

Make it 2499/2500

[abstract heron]

LOL I have inavisable power switch on my map thats a new one

🤣 😂

[swift kernel]

Did you try saving and reloading?

[abstract heron]

not yet want me to

[swift kernel]

I mean, if you want to solve it. Idc either way

[peak wasp]

It's been 84 years since I've played factory

[solid grail]

damn your old af

[tranquil narwhal]

Yknow we talk about delta rune tommorow but where’s the 1.1 in 5 days?

[fallow furnace]

Ah ffs.. I just typed a whole question with examples and more and just because I included a link >> to the screenshot since I'm not allowed to upload a screenshot here<< it got removed and I have to retype everything ?

How stupid ...

[urban root]

Just don't look at the depot. During builds, Items get pulled from it automatically.

[fallow furnace]

So I'm having an issue that blueprints I made way before 1.0 and 1.1 in experimental mode, so no longer show up in normal mode since yesterday.
I noticed last night that my blueprints do not work in a savegame in normal mode (yes, I have copied them from other savegames just like I've been doing in the past 3 years). Any idea ?

What shows up now is just one element of a, for example, huge blueprint.
I do have all resources ready, so there's nothing wrong there.

Blueprints I downloaded from the internet dó work.

Pretty annoying, redoing the blueprints cost a sh*pload of work/time.

[mortal ginkgo]

I agree that 1.1 BP gonna break most of the BPs if not all.

Lifts connected to Splitters etc also got an extra belt inside them which is not connected to anything if you got a BP from 1.0 to 1.1 so beware.

[urban root]

Try removing them all from your current game then copy one that's not been working. See if it'll show up and work.

[fallow furnace]

I didn't have the issue yesterday morning in experimental.

[fallow furnace]

Well I tried that, doesn't do the trick unfortunately. Tried it for everyone that doesn't work.
I also reinstalled the game already and the problem is there on my MacPro (which I honestly don't want to use for gaming) too.

[mortal ginkgo]

its not something you can fix with reinstall I am afraid

[fallow furnace]

Bummer. I just wanted to rule out the most common things before asking here.

[mortal ginkgo]

well blueprint code changed a bit internally since we got auto-connect etc so, its not an issue on your end

[fallow furnace]

Okay, deutlich. So who do I sue for ruining my time 😛 ?

[mortal ginkgo]

Ficsit 😛

[fallow furnace]

hehe.

Aight, re-bp it is then. Ah well, June 10th we get to see all fun stuff from exp 1.1 in normal mode anyway.

Thanks anyway

[mortal ginkgo]

I would say wait for 10 June and get the act patch before redoing the BPs

There are some bugs still that might be patched at that day

[fallow furnace]

What am I supposed to do the next 5 days ???

Off to #Battlefield4 then ..

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean dont take my word for it

I am just suggesting 😛

[fallow furnace]

I will do that either way, god !

[hard ivy]

I tried copying one blueprint between 1.0 and 1.1 (I don't remember which way) and all that got copied was a single splitter. for some reason

[fallow furnace]

Yah, that's what I see in most of my blueprints too. Or just one Foundation block.

[frank hinge]

Hi just a quick question as I've been away - I saw an announcement about vertical splitters and such. Is that all still on the experimental branch and is there a release date?

[pseudo yew]

Hey, does anyone have any news on golf coming to satisfactory? Or is it still out of scope.

[sly vortex]

anyone now how I can make my game sharper?

it's very blurry right now

[frail sleet]

check resolution / render scale / upscaling, disable motion blur etc, use a sharpening filter from out of game

[sly vortex]

what in upscaling would make it less blurry?

[waxen locust]

Yup. And iif you watched the video with the purple power slug asthe thumbnail. Its june 10th

[frail sleet]

bad upscaling method or render resolution adds blur

[sly vortex]

which upscaling methods are "bad"?

[frank hinge]

I didn't see that, I will check that out. Thanks!

[austere valve]

Set render display scaling to 100% or higher, don't go too high though

[frail sleet]

If in doubt, don't use any (or use DLSS 4)

[waxen locust]

Most games do look fine at 70% minimum. But distant objects willl be blurry tooo

[atomic notch]

Mines at like 80%

also runnin vulkan api

[waxen locust]

I camt remember what mine is. I thin 80 or 90. But just saying that i find 70 to be the minimum of still playable

[sly vortex]

I set mine to 85 and it looks much better. Thank you guys

[waxen locust]

Do you guys think ficsit will mind if i get 5 morre minutes? So i can be at my most effficient? XD

[solid grail]

For sure. Your paycheck will be halved

[waxen locust]

I dont eveen get payed :p

[true juniper]

The pleasure of working for FICSIT is your payment 😉

[waxen locust]

Damn. I loose half my pleasure?

[true juniper]

I... uhm

nevermind

[waxen locust]

New satisfactory lore : ficsit controls your endorphin levels. And if you oversleep. They limitt how many endorphins you get from having a working factory or solving a problem

[trim vine]

@mortal ginkgo @shut stream

Coming into this very late.

As far as liquids go, where are a ton of little things you gotta watch out for.

sloshing, pump placement, priming the system, etc

Unreal aint wrong, you CAN move liquids long distances, and it works perfectly fine. You just need to have a rough idea on what you're doing

However, things like Oil, I wouldnt move super far, it's usually just easier to build a factory at the source, or relatively close to it.

Another thing to consider is that gas's dont require headlift, which is something to factor later on.

But the main spirit of what I was telling Sparrow was, its always easier to drag a line of coal to a water source, than run 3+ pipes way over land to some coal power plants.

And this is all for the early game, and maybe first time finding and building something for oil, once you been doing it for a minute, you could in theory pipe across the map with no issues. God help you if you have to troubleshoot though.

[waxen locust]

Holy text batman

[zenith pecan]

Turns out a forgotten clock on a miner can freeze up a bauxite refinery.

[trim vine]

stares at penny tossed in engine

[zenith pecan]

It does go to show the setup even at its simplest with no recycle loop is brittle as all hell, one slight issue and it'll irrecoverably fold up requiring a hard purge to reset.

[mortal ginkgo]

Dem yappin' but useful yapp'in. I approve.

👍

[frail sleet]

I don't understand how it stalled if you didn't have waste and fresh merged, can you post pics?

A lack of miner input should stall the first refinery, causing an equal reduction on fresh and waste and no excess water in the waste pipe

[zenith pecan]

It was just short of bauxite due to a forgotten clock on one impure, so it got 420 ore instead of 600, so what happened is the three intake refineries weren't taking up the required water, and the alumina refineries weren't taking up the expected alumina solution, both outputs (water first) built up until the cluster went dark, fully wedged.

The mine in question had its shards, but I never dragged the overclock to max.

[frail sleet]

you starved waste side but not fresh?

[zenith pecan]

Yeah, the fresh water is consistent going into one refinery, the other two refineries on bauxite processing are entirely wastewater fed, no crossover, but it is just one of 20 groups, the other 19 are running full tilt.

Basically, I was only producing 11500 ingots instead of 12000 🤣

[frail sleet]

It is a good solution overall, max efficiency, but not the simplest 😄 And yeah it can fail like that if you don't make sure to starve fresh first

[zenith pecan]

Fresh won't get starved, ever, because that is connected to only one in three refineries total, and to ensure the numbers work, that one in three refineries also run at 90% clockspeed, the wastewater refineries are at 105%

[frail sleet]

Nothing should get starved, but if something does, you can wire things up so that it's the fresh side

just extra layers of protection

[waxen locust]

welp. amma play some mental abuse simulator before I get to automating

||limbus company :p||

[zenith pecan]

Right now I'm watching that last cluster like a hawk, If it behaves I can at least mark my Q&H thread as solved and properly thank and acknowledge the guys who offered suggestions & helped 🙂

My first solution, which bottlenecked what should have been a bulletproof system failed so hard, it caused satisfactory's largest ever bauxite lockup.

[shut stream]

Is there a way to make like blueprints of buildings first that you can then place in a world

[fallow furnace]

Test Drive Unlimited Solar Crown ?

[zenith pecan]

There are the three blueprint designers.

[shut stream]

How do they work and why are there three

[atomic notch]

4x 5x 6x

[zenith pecan]

Mk1, 2 & 3, getting progressively larger as you advance in tiers.

[fallow furnace]

Because decissions are made due to time consences, not due to limitations.

[zenith pecan]

How they work, you throw down the designer, build your desired structure inside it, hit save, and under blueprints on the build menu, you can select that building and make as many as you wish.

[waxen locust]

nah- limbus company :p

[fallow furnace]

Yes, the game is still being update with new stuff and I'm sure there will be a Phase 6, 7, 8 and 9, but a new map would be fantastic as well.
Although, if I understood correctly from the community update video, that won't happen meh..

[fallow furnace]

You mean mother-in-law simulator 😛

[white dawn]

There's actually basically zero chance of new phases/tiers

[zenith pecan]

Back in a bit, I'm going to go out and leave my refineries to do their busy work, fingers crossed I ironed out the remaining issues.

[white dawn]

New phases/tiers would mean having to rebalance the entire map/recipes/gameflow yet again, and CSS just aren't interested in doing so

[waxen locust]

I do remember a while ago. that there isn't a 0% chance of getting new gamemodes. but it's taken them what. 7-ish years to make the map we are currently using? I don't blame them for not wanting to make a new map.

I definatly wouldn't mind an optional map. where its procedural. but you only get access to it once you beat the game

[white dawn]

And yeah, new maps are also quite unlikely, though I think they haven't discounted the possibility of other maps in the future as DLC or something like that. Though I don't think they've ever made a definitive statement on that one way or the other

[waxen locust]

nah. its just been pretty vague overall

[white dawn]

(And it wouldn't be any time remotely soon, if they do decide to do a new map eventually)

[fallow furnace]

So I know someone who used to work for CFS (he left because he started his own game dev company) and there are plans for more phases. Long before we got to know there was going to be a 5th phase, he already told me about the lively plans of phase 6 and 7. Since he told me what to expect in phase 5 was exactly true, I'm sure his info about 6 and 7 are true too. But I kept my mouth shut as he asked me to, so I will now too.

[atomic notch]

Bigger map would be cool but i dont got my hopes up

[white dawn]

I am personally extremely confident that that information is wrong. Perhaps it was accurate at some point, but CSS have been quite clear about phase/tier scope for some time now

[fallow furnace]

Change of scenery after 3500 hours could re-establish my love for the game (which is still there though).

[white dawn]

Time will tell, of course; I have no CSS contacts of my own

[waxen locust]

I do wonder if they could use gaia (i think that's the UE plugin they used for the 'map' outside the kill zone) to make a new map for the game.

[white dawn]

New phases/tiers would inevitably mean breaking people's factories again, because the map resources/recipes/nodes/etc would need to be rebalanced entirely to account for the new phases

It just doesn't make sense to do that in a post-1.0 world

[fallow furnace]

All I know is that they are in fact in talks with several game devs about SF2. But that's at least 5 years away from us now, since there are only talks, nothing visual yet.

[median shell]

you can expect updates similar to 1.1, with no major game changes but adding smaller content and large QoL things. tiers and especially a map are pipe dreams imo

[white dawn]

I would personally be shocked if they make "breaking" changes to the game again, now that it's officially out

[true juniper]

I heard there's a Battle Royale Update coming, that randomizes every resource node, and the map is closing in on you

[white dawn]

Well a hypothetical "Satisfactory 2" is another question entirely, of course. I'm talking about this game. I'd be shocked if they introduced breaking changes at this point.

[fallow furnace]

Well, we have upward elevators now, some mods make underground resources available and these mods are very well developed (no crashes whatsoever).

[waxen locust]

you say that. but plenty of other aautomation games that don't exist. have extra maps after 1.0

[leaden turret]

no random blue wall, it's a ring of

[leaden turret]

intentionally introduced breaking changes

[white dawn]

Extra buildables is in a completely different class of feature than new phases/tiers

[fallow furnace]

Dreams do not count in real life 😛 😛

[white dawn]

lol, fair mount. :)

[fallow furnace]

Ah well, until we get heads up from the higher regions, it's all speculation anyway.

[leaden turret]

1. satwosfactory
2. satisfactwory

pick one

[waxen locust]

I have been trying my own shot. as a lone person. to try and re-create satisfactory's building. because i honestly think its the best one out there XD

[fallow furnace]

I'm off to prepare for a gig. Ibiza, here we come 🙂

[waxen locust]

what if i pick two. because. it'd be satwofactwory

[white dawn]

My statement was about new phases+tiers specifically, which they've said "no" to repeatedly. As I mentioned before, I think they haven't ever given a blanket "no" to hypothetical new maps in the future, as DLC or whatever, but that's a very long way off

[fallow furnace]

A subgame called Ficsit Disco would be nice 😛

[white dawn]

Tokyo Drift

[leaden turret]

because two plus two is four, and that is what satisfourctory is for

[waxen locust]

ah- I misread. apologees.

[leaden ether]

They specifically said no new map (Other than a remote chance for a "super flat" map) on a stream I watched but you know, that's today, not tomorrow 🙂 Also I wonder if we might not get mod maps in the future? Not sure if the games actual map file format is known or encrypted opr something.

[waxen locust]

I'm guessing number 3 is satresfactory?

[leaden turret]

we already have mod maps

[leaden turret]

satisfacthoree

[fallow furnace]

Tree map would be nice:
Satisfactree 🙂

[waxen locust]

satisfithtory?

[leaden ether]

Oh! Well that's good news. Other sims have decent mod map communities. I.e. Farm Sim.

[true juniper]

They could also do it with roman numerals and add I's

[fallow furnace]

Satisfilthy

[true juniper]

SatIIIsfactory

[fallow furnace]

Satisfilthy FakeTaxi Edition 😛

[leaden turret]

Nordic game dev, would be SatiYggdrasilfactory

[fallow furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/alpine-ski-historic-srf-archiv-gif-19039268

[leaden turret]

that describes the average <@&370483737957236737> dev stream

[fallow furnace]

We miss Snutt

[spiral field]

guys, If I start en 1.1 beta world; will it get broken or cause any problems in 10th of june, the real release?

[leaden turret]

cinqtisfactory

[leaden turret]

back up your saves, but probably no

[waxen locust]

I still stand what i said yesterday. if the game asks me out again. I'm comming to stockholms. to CSS and i'm bringing chocolates and roses. and someone better accept them XD

[spiral field]

how to back up??

[leaden turret]

wrong city.

[leaden turret]

copy/paste files somewhere else

folder in #faq

[fallow furnace]

Yes im off now. Bb

[waxen locust]

well. coffee stain north is in stockholm

[leaden turret]

also they explicitly ask people not to visit

[waxen locust]

it's not my fault that they keep asking me out XD

[spiral field]

kk thankssss

[waxen locust]

I'll bring two boxes and two flowers. get the main one. and north. two birds in one.

You can't ask me out over 30 times and not expect chocolates XD

||this is purely a joke btw-||

[trim vine]

If this is your first time playing the game, building good factory foundations (metaphorical foundations) is good, once you been going for a bit in this game, and you can always download an Early BP Designer mod that gives you access to mk.3 in milestone 1

[waxen locust]

I personally recommend beating the game before modding XD

[abstract heron]

I am near at 16,500hr total on the game

@unborn gyro

[waxen locust]

i wonder if theres a way to circumvent dismantling the droppod at the start.

[dreamy kestrel]

"Skip Onboarding" button

[waxen locust]

that deletes the droppod for you

[leaden turret]

save editing / modding

[shut stream]

So you've spent nearly 2 years just in the game

[mystic oriole]

At what point do you get good at the game?

[waxen locust]

what would you call "good" in this game?
not dieing?
having everything automated?
making things look nice?
XD

[mystic oriole]

I put in a little over 1000 hours into the game, thought people would like the joke

[trim vine]

Do you have smart splitters and awesome sinks?

I only ask because a lot of us will leave the game just runnning for them sweet, juicy, QUUUUUUEPONS

[waxen locust]

oh- i found it funny XD

[true juniper]

Good is, if you can make a factory look good without straight build mode and nudging xD

[waxen locust]

so basically me playing before update 8?

[shut stream]

I do not, no

[trim vine]

How is using time saving techniques, and a minimal one at that like straight build mode, not in the good category xD

(I still count 2 back though each time by habit)

[true juniper]

Nono, you gotta suffer to be good

[trim vine]

Remember, priorities:

1. Power, and away from other factories/closed power network
2. Aggressive MAM research/Hard Drive hunting
3. whatever you want

[trim vine]

But do figure out the awesome sink and shop pretty soon, some major QOL things you can buy in there with coupons

[shut stream]

I've already got power done, wholy automated and away from my factories

[mystic oriole]

do you skip coal?

[trim vine]

V nice, and v proud of you

Keep an eye on your total levels, and if you find yourself pushing within 10-20% of your total with MAX capacity, then you need to go expand

[shut stream]

Nope I did coal

[trim vine]

I like the smoke stacks

[shut stream]

Yeah I'm currently running at +30% of my max

[mystic oriole]

I really don't lilke coal power plants don't know why

[atomic notch]

They the best

[real field]

The Bladerunner is so amazing, 10/10

[trim vine]

Might I suggest Refined Power's Modular Power stations?

Makes making Coal plants fun again

[atomic notch]

Only coal power

[reef forge]

how have so many people not built 5km of railways

[trim vine]

#satisfactory message

Heed my words 😛

[shut stream]

That would be a fun challenge run

[shut stream]

What can mam get Mr

[trim vine]

MAM research will be yout greatest boon at times

[real field]

https://tenor.com/view/flash-lampo-speed-gif-18173027

[jade perch]

Why should power be away from normal factories?

[trim vine]

go through and read it

Highlights are
mk2 power poles
smart splitters
rebar gun
rifle
nobelisk
blade runners
gas mask

[pearl walrus]

Closed network was the main point to be made here

[atomic notch]

I dount most people even get that far in the game

[jade perch]

What does closed network mean?

[real field]

I just skip the rebar gun and go straight to actual gun, so much better imo

[trim vine]

If your power grid experiences a melt down of some kind, its easier to diagnose if its segregated

Additionally, if you are smart and ensure that your power lines arent just interconnected without regard, you can power down entire factories with ease/remove the outbound connection from a power plant to jump start/fix it away from the grid.

It is purely so that you can fix problems IF they arise

[pearl walrus]

Segregation🥳🤞

[jade perch]

Understood
Thank you

[trim vine]

For instance, if I cut a single wire from my coal power plant, the rest of the my world (its an early save with friends) goes dark, so that way I can power the factory on its own stuff

The miners/water pumps are all in a closed loop that can be started with 3 biomass burners, self sustain itself, and then be reconnected to the "main" grid

[real field]

Question

Is it better to have one power grid for your entire world or have each factory power itself

[trim vine]

But even in my main world, the buildings that produce various fuels are all on a closed circuit, with a single power switch (same as a pole but with a switch) being the single thing I need to shut off to allow my fuel plant to power itself

[pearl walrus]

One power source but different grids🤞

[trim vine]

Mid game thats not feasible

You will have several power plants, powering a main/interconnected grid

[trim vine]

The thing you need to be aware of and plan for is...

Lets say you have a factory making motors, and then another factory elsewhere making encased beams.

Each of these factories should be on a closed grid as well, where you can easily cut power to the entire plant/production stream from miners to manufacturers in a single point you can easily get to

[shell sluice]

[shut stream]

I just looked up smart splitters and am disappointed

[trim vine]

Planning is the first step in a factory 🙂

[trim vine]

por que?

[shut stream]

I was hoping they could be set to ratio

So that you don't gotta custom ratio using an extended set up

[trim vine]

That might be a 1.1 thing coming soon, but trust me, you dont need ratios as much as you think, plus you can build balancers to achieve this

[abstract heron]

Never your always learning

[pearl walrus]

The world would be so simple

[pearl walrus]

But you can so maths and get to any ratio with 3 and 2

[shut stream]

Eventually yes

[trim vine]

Use the manifold method, and have set on a single line what you need to feed into another manifold of machines

There are ways to recycle stuff into lines, but usually that doesnt happen til later when you have a good foundation

[dreamy kestrel]

load balancing is typically unnecessary and if your factory is reliant on it thats usually a sign of poor design

which is why theres no functionality for adjusting the ratios in splitters

theyd be a noob trap

[pearl walrus]

I ♥️ balancers

[trim vine]

alil crass and direct, but he aint wrong when he's right

[dreamy kestrel]

there are still a few cases where you might want to load balance though, like nuclear waste processing

but by that point, placing down a few splitters and mergers to make a simple load balancer shouldnt be a hangup at all

[trim vine]

train/drone stations

[pearl walrus]

? Some recipies just spit out bad numbers or simply require good balance

[shut stream]

Manifold method?

[dreamy kestrel]

not sure what you mean by this

spitting out awkward numbers doesnt mean manifolds stop working

[abstract heron]

U never beat a game you always keep learning

[dreamy kestrel]

and load balancing doesnt magically make the numbers nicer

[trim vine]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Manifold

[pearl walrus]

Eg. Recycling chain

[dreamy kestrel]

for recycled plastic/rubber? that doesnt require load balancing

[trim vine]

Read that link I sent

[dreamy kestrel]

you just need a smart splitter for each rubber/plastic line

[pearl walrus]

😭

[hollow vector]

yea

[pearl walrus]

Ive been using just the smash thingy since the start🤞

[dark timber]

i just got the game can anyone help me out

[pearl walrus]

#1038092680493801533

[rustic otter]

follow ADA's instructions, always be working and build build build

[trim vine]

how much help do you need?

[waxen locust]

yeah. the game is really nice about helping you get into it.

[trim vine]

Also, for the love of god

#satisfactory message

[leaden ether]

Result of late night engineering... Tapping into the wrong splitter and filling in 2k worth of belt with the wrong item -.-

[hollow holly]

Tbh i would recomend going into blindly for starting

[rustic otter]

building neatly is actually doing me wonders, looks much better and is honestly propably a lot more effiecieant

[leaden ether]

Building neatly, or rather having a neatly built factory, is truly the most satisfying part of the game I think.

[rustic otter]

i had an absolute monstrosity of a factory at one point and yet i managed to keep 3 nuclear reactors powered somehow

#screenshots message

[leaden ether]

I just finished putting the final sink on my 30 reactor powerplant. It's all hooked up, completely filled with the various input items (Minus fuel rods). Just waiting to flip the power switch on the fuel rod production floor. Hands are sweating. Will it run?

#screenshots message

[real field]

how do I increase the efficiency on my coal plants?

[rustic otter]

like a dingle one, Overclocking

[reef forge]

unfortunately, i'm having to try and fix my entire turbofuel factory because it was fluctuating power so i've flushed the pipes, shut off all the machines and im going very very slow turning each machine on when the previous pipes fill up and whatnot

[rustic otter]

how much fuel are u producing?

same goes with how much are u consuming?

[reef forge]

only 300 turbofuel/min

[rustic otter]

and consuming 300/min?

[reef forge]

yea

[rustic otter]

yeah just let ur pipes fill

[crimson hearth]

have you let the system fully fill up

and then slowly start each generator up and wait for it to fill up before starting the next on?

[reef forge]

yeah

its time consuming but i need this to work

[abstract heron]

Is there a video this Friday Mikael

Or Jason?

[leaden ether]

Nuke plant humming along but going to take hours (and hours) to fully come on line. One mistake was not running the fuel rod floor and storing as much fuel as possible to preload all the reactors while working on the rest of it 😦 And of course the REAL problems won't show till the entire thing is at capacity.

[reef forge]

im very close to having everything filled

[shell sluice]

why is "alternate recipe for automated miner" even a thing, do you ever need to mass produce those =\

[hard ivy]

plug 1 assembler into a depot and you never have to handcraft one ever again

[swift kernel]

You build enough miners over the expanse of the game that it's worth it for some people.

It's not a one size fits all solution. That's why it's an alternate recipe

[shell sluice]

but the base recipe is alrady super cheap, why would you need an alternate

[swift kernel]

To automate it

[hard ivy]

the base can't be automated

[shell sluice]

oh gotcha

[swift kernel]

You can't automate the basic recipe

[hard ivy]

automated miner is way better than it used to be lol

#screenshots message

[zenith pecan]

Especially with the miners being stackable, way back they didn't stack.

[hard ivy]

I'd say the DD is the biggest difference maker. Even with the old recipe, and with stack size of 1, I'd still use the alt to put them into the DD

and without the DD, I don't think I'd ever bother

[radiant breach]

DD's are lifesavers

[reef forge]

grrrr one of my pipes keeps filling up and not being used

[frail sleet]

You need hundreds of them to put down automated miners and stuff. In the early-midgame it's also sometimes nice to drop 20 of them on a new resource node to mine it quickly (this can massively exceed the speed of your best belt, if you just wanna fill a container to build a bunch of something).

Low throughput automation can take care of all of the automated miners that you could use.

Grabbing materials and handcrafting 500 of them during an afk and then leaving a few stacks in the depot uploader slots can also take care of it, but hey, it's an option

[frail sleet]

you are probably overstressing its flow rate

if in doubt, derate pipes to 2/3 of listed flow rate to account for backflow on uneven-split-junctions.

if there are still issues, it's likely headlift

[deft axle]

Do I need to do anything to my server for the update?

[maiden jacinth]

Started playing the game last night and almost didn't get any sleep before work. 💀
All the memes are true

[mystic oriole]

welcome to your second job

[vale quail]

I’m kinda confused here did something change in 1.1 when scanning for resources in 1.0 iron ore was on top when you scan for it and in 1.1 it’s on the left side

[void cliff]

Eyoooo steam sale today, so I plan to stop using family sharing to play my daughter's copy of the game lol

[cinder jay]

hello

[maiden jacinth]

My one complaint is that I kinda wish belts were worse

[leaden ether]

It's been an hour and only 7 of the 30 reactors are 100% on line. -.-

[mortal ginkgo]

thats rough

[hard ivy]

cut off the water supply and they'll fill quicker

[maiden jacinth]

Like over long distances
Might just do a self imposed no conveyer pole challenge or smth

[leaden ether]

Heh true.... I am kicking myself I didn't build up a stockpile of rods while working on it. 16 manufacturers makes only 6.4 rods a minute.

[hard ivy]

unless you overproduce or store rods, the fill time with the water off is the same, regardless of the number of reactors

with the water on, it gets longer and longer

[leaden ether]

I dumped all my spare sloops into 4 of the machines to help things along a little bit 🙂

[maiden jacinth]

The spaghetti from miners to factory is just starting to annoy me ;w;
And well. The belt spaghetti in general

[leaden ether]

I have to say, building the nuke plant has been a very fun and satisfying project. I hope they come up with some more projects like that in future updates.

[pearl walrus]

I built 101 and im im still problem solving after 8 hours lol

[leaden ether]

Yeah I don't even know what sort of efficiency issues I might have till the entire thing come on line. 101 sounds like close to or all the uranium on the map? (Without slooping rods or something)

[pearl walrus]

Ye it is

I just found the last issue i hope

It was a mk5 lifter🤕🤕🤕

[leaden ether]

Ooof, Yeah. I do that kind of thing a lot -.-

[hard ivy]

max reactors without Ficsonium or uranium conversion is 190.4 fully OCd

[pearl walrus]

I also had a bunch of bps that werent connected at all

[leaden ether]

I went as far as making the plutonium rods and sinking them, At some point, just for fun again, I'll complete the ficonium process.

[maiden jacinth]

Trying to think of some challenges to force myself to make things look nicer.
I wanna start a new save and not do spaghetti everywhere

[zenith cove]

does anybody here know if there are any plans for fsr4 support for satisfactory?

[mystic oriole]

embrace the spaghetti, or just clean it up later

[tranquil maple]

Is it possible to play through the game without the mam? For example: will you unllock the sam scan. reanimated sam, and the fluctuators when you unlock the ||converter|| milestone without doing the mam reaserch?

[dawn turtle]

why cant i drive my tractor i just made it and i can sit in it and pressing w does nothing

[zenith pecan]

Did you add fuel?

[leaden ether]

Need to click on the workbench in the back and add fuel

[dawn turtle]

no lmao didnt know it needed it how can i fill it up

and with what?

[zenith pecan]

It can use everything from solid biofuel/coal to nuclear fuel rods, as posted by @leaden ether above, click the bench at the back of the vehicle.

[leaden ether]

If you open it, then click on the little icon where the fuel goes, it'll shopw you. But at an early stage you can throw coal into it

[swift kernel]

You can run tractors on leaves or wood even if you're in a bind

[south shale]

Stuid Question of the day. Why is my power Production fluctuating. I get most of my Power from Rocket Fuel and every generator is full

[leaden ether]

You SURE they are 100% all running at 100%? I have two RF towers and one runs pretty steady but the other I screwed up the RF generation at the bottom and it fluctuates enough to cause some of the last generators on the line to go on and off randomly. (Been too lazy to tear it down and fox it like I did on the second one)

[hard ivy]

Geothermal, trains, another power plant has issues, or you're wrong and some RF generators are, in fact, not full

You can estimate which one it is by the amount the power fluctuates (if it's in multiples of 250, then it's fuel gens at 100% etc)

[south shale]

Could this be an experimental issue. I Am flying around checking all the GEnerators and all seem to have 50

production fluctuates between 72 and 74 MW and I have like 4 trains

[leaden ether]

Look at the % number. If they are periodically idling do to lack of fuel for even small amounts of time you might not see it in the fuel buffer number, but it might say 97% on the generator

[south shale]

no geothermal and a super small coal plant

would they still show the blue light if they are under 100%

[hard ivy]

Trains have regen breaking that puts power into the grid

[leaden ether]

Oh I forgot about the trains doing that 😄

[south shale]

is it that much?

If I can I would post a screenshot 😄

[hard ivy]

Up to 33 MW per locomotive, according to the wiki

[south shale]

So it should be the cause of the 2000 MW fluctiation

I put a Screenshot into the Screenshot channel

found it 😄

i really had to go through them all as they dont flash yellow but only blue and red. thanks for the help

[hard ivy]

Red is bad

Red is no fuel I'm pretty sure

[south shale]

I know :d but I thought it would work like the production machines that are yelllow under 100% 😄

[hard ivy]

That'd also mean no fuel

Generators without 100% uptime = production fluctuations

[maiden jacinth]

What do y'all think of trucks

[eternal delta]

I just checked the character changer and there is a cat helmet is this just for this month or permenant?

[south shale]

Trucks are tons of fun 🙂 not ultra reliable but fun

[hard ivy]

Useless. I'd never use a truck over a belt or train

[eternal delta]

Slow, low item per truck ratio

[frozen ingot]

i would

they're fun!

[silk sedge]

hi started playing after some time and game crashes a lot at random times after random times EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION is the error at crash report shows anyone knows what is happennig ?

[reef basin]

Share the whole thing as text in #math-and-meta

[maiden jacinth]

Okay but long belts are ugly

[reef basin]

Decent with low infrastructure needs

[hard ivy]

If you're playing on the newest experimental patch, that's unfortunately normal from what I've heard

Idk about the specific crash, but crashing in general

[silk sedge]

i am not playing on experimental

posted whole crashlog on #math-and-meta

[maiden jacinth]

How many trucks can you use before they start getting weird

[south shale]

What I have read is that they work best if you havestreets if you want to use multiple

In my first playthrough I was in teh grassy fields and got all my rubber and plastic sent to me via a truck from the coast.
I got also some Quartz from another Biome via trucks and it worked fine 🙂

[rustic otter]

is 16.666 repeating/min a decent amount of reinforrced iron plates for phase 2, or do i need to expand on that?

i currently just set up a little jobsite ig

[south shale]

I thinks thats decent

[rustic otter]

aight

[hard ivy]

I mean I'd go for a more convenient number to build but it can get you through to the end of the game

Assuming that's all for you and not other parts too

[dusk crater]

Can you still unlock the pure recipes early on or are they locked behind refineries now?

Idk if I should hard drive hunt now or later

[eternal delta]

#screenshots message bruh what

[rustic otter]

its for the construction on the belts and consttructors and other stuff

[hard ivy]

Wet concrete is only locked behind water, but I'm pretty sure the pure recipes require oil

But like you can hunt drives now and scan them later

[rustic otter]

i think its the alien augmenters and the hoverpack does that too

[eternal delta]

I was thinking my power grid was weird till that person who jsut posted in screenshots sent thire power grid

[dusk crater]

The pure recipes are just ore + water? I got wet concrete but obv don't want that much rather have pure copper and iron and caterium

Except pure aluminium

[hard ivy]

No I meant having oil unlocked. Not oil to make

[rustic otter]

yeah, once i unlock drones i plan on just getting every ore deposit and the funneling all the resources to a big refinery filled with the pure recipes

[dusk crater]

Ah so indeed refineries
A true bruh moment as those are probably my favorite recipes in the game other than diluted fuel and screw-less Heavy Modular Frames

[hard ivy]

You still won't be able to use them without refineries so it's not like it matters when you can get them from a drive

[dusk crater]

Well there is just a lot more to sift through at that stage, and way more junk recipes too

[hard ivy]

I just save scum if I don't have enough drives 🤷‍♂️

[rustic otter]

gotta go set up rotors after i eat

[dusk crater]

My friend doesn't want to do that 🥲

[hard ivy]

And if you don't take any of the trash, you only need half the drives

[frozen ingot]

how can you not have enough drives?

[mystic oriole]

Can always buy hard drives with coupons.

[gleaming glade]

i need help...

with a factory

[green fiber]

oh thank god i though you might have needed help with taxes

[rustic otter]

id much rather use SCIM

[shut lava]

Have you tried building more things

[gleaming glade]

no i have 2, 240 belts, 1, 110 belt, 1, 80 belt and 2, 40 belts of screws. I have 6 assemblers making rotors though 1 of them is overclocked to 250% so it needs 250 screws instead of 100. how would I feed each assembler the screws they need for maximum efficiency

rods are dealt with

[shut lava]

Do you already have enough screws for the other 5

[urban root]

This is a legitimate answer

[gleaming glade]

yes

i just dont know how to balance all my belts

[shut lava]

Well I don't build like that

So idk

But I'd probably just make 2 270 belts of screws

[urban root]

Have you completed the hub assembly and unlocked splitters

[shut lava]

^

[gleaming glade]

yes..

[urban root]

Make a manifold

[gleaming glade]

i have 750 screws per min, I dont have a belt that can do that

[urban root]

You can merge in more screws down the manifold

[shut lava]

Then use more belts

[urban root]

Exactly this, you can fit all your output on 3 separate belts

[shut lava]

And then merge the belts on the production belt when the material gets consumed

Whatever term you guys use

[urban root]

Are you not one of us

[shut lava]

Factorio

[urban root]

Yes that's one of us.

[shut lava]

Then yes I'm one of you

[urban root]

You're just less Italian than us. (Less spaghetti)

[shut lava]

Literally just hand made pasta noodles like 5 min ago

[urban root]

How many per min?

[shut lava]

Idk

[rustic otter]

not efficient enough then

[shut lava]

Prob about a foot of pasta every 4 min

[tulip pecan]

0,0 is west of the center of the map?

[delicate badger]

I installed the game on my new computer and I can't get past the screen that says "Experimental Build Info" I try to click the Accept button but nothing happens and I can't do anything. I've reset my computer and nothing changes

[unkempt blade]

that's going to take ages to fill up the elevator package!

have you considered using a sushi kitchen instead of a normal manifold kitchen?

[shut lava]

Listen here I'm not a messiah of pasta making

[delicate badger]

guess i'll give up and play something else

[unkempt blade]

does it run when you're not on experimental?

[delicate badger]

I just installed it on this computer. Do I need to uninstall and reinstall for non experimental?

[unkempt blade]

I was thinking it only showed that view if you opted into a beta version

[delicate badger]

renstalling it now

[unkempt blade]

but yeah if it's a general problem I don't know what to tell ya but if it's only when you're on a beta version you might try asking in #satisfactory-experimental

[rustic otter]

i need 560 iron a minute for my factory

i only have T2 belts

time for splittong

[delicate badger]

reinstalling the game fixed it, ty

[shut lava]

I suggest buying another pc to permanently fix the problem

[delicate badger]

i just bought this.....

I was installing it on it for the first time....

[shut lava]

Well as they say "second times the charm"

[atomic notch]

finally

[sly vortex]

is the movent in the experimental version a bug? I feel like the speed cap is so much higher

or is there even a cap

it feels like i can just keep going faster

[maiden jacinth]

Find some hard drives

Or add a second belt

[rustic otter]

botting up my coal gens rn

gonna wait for all the water to fill up and then turn them all on

water is doing perfect yippee

[leaden ether]

Whelp, it took 5.5 hours since startup to get all 30 reactors steady and on line. They are still not completely buffer filled. But none of them are going idle any more. And I used some sloops to speed it up too... Given that a reactor takes 5 minutes to consume one fuel rod. It seems a little overkill that their internal buffer holds 50 of them -.- Five would have been PLENTY.

[prisma thicket]

You can get going pretty fast if you have a lot of open semi-flat ground to slide jump across, but you'll wind up hitting a bump or a hill that will kill your momentum eventually.

[zenith pecan]

That is one reason I use load balancers to feed reactors, no wind up time and it culls radiation.

[rustic otter]

i take back everything i said water is not gettin to the middle plants fast enough so i need 3 extractors instead of what shouldve been 2

[prisma thicket]

Yah, you need 360 water per minute, which is 3 extractors at 100% clock speed. There's other ways you can do it as well, like 4 extractors at 75%, then you can link each extractor to exactly 2 generators.

[rustic otter]

i still havent even began on the 560 iron a minute i need

[prisma thicket]

What are you working on that's taking that much Iron?

[rustic otter]

automated reinforced iron plates are taking a lot of it and i need a lot of iron for cast iron screws

i took a screenshot one secx

#screenshots message

its all taking iron except 1 or 2 things of copper

18 smelters taking 30 and 1 smelter taking 20/min

actually that very bottom portion with the 2 constructors sticking out is the only thing taking copper and thats wire and cable

[prisma thicket]

Ahhhh, so it's essentially all your basic items then?

[rustic otter]

pretty much, i also got rotors in the mix

rods, plates, reinforced plates, and rotors

hopefully i can make another factory for the modular frames

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> re: someone on emergency stream saying "combat / tower defense is well-asked for" (it isn't):

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https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Satisfactory#Base_Defense

[rustic otter]

i think it was a little went over in the things they will never bring, i remember terrain manipulation and golf was in there

[leaden turret]

engine: does not support terrain manipulation
also engine: does not not support golf

[rustic otter]

i think it was since someone in coffestain tried bringing it up as smth a little neat u can do and everyone else went against it

[leaden turret]

mods: has golf, because enough people want it
also mods: does not have base defense, because not enough people want it

[leaden turret]

it was a running joke started... [checks notes]

[rustic otter]

lol

[leaden turret]

on April 27th, 2021

discussion of it on stream regularly made the QA site fall over

eventually got referenced in a patch notes video, where the running joke was further refined by it being a choice between dedicated servers or golf

[rustic otter]

theres probably mods out there that incorporate golf in spite

[leaden turret]

... looks like it got broken by update 0.8.2

[rustic otter]

everything is stable now

[mental void]

ummm what

i was playing with someone in a call, when all the sudden they stopped talking and then shortly after diconnected. then they left the game and either their account got deleted or they blocked me. they blocked me on steam definitely blocked me on steam

[lament niche]

it was probably the mid dubstep

[copper raft]

#streams-and-videos for a banger SF song

[mental void]

lmao

bro h was in the middle of a sentence and i think his dc accoutn got deleted'

[wintry smelt]

.

[steady violet]

@marble socket bruv it keeps getting worse
delayed twice in transit, it gets here and its all beat up, just my fucking luck

dont even know if it will play right

[maiden jacinth]

what starting area should I do for my second try

[prisma thicket]

Which one did you start with first?

[maiden jacinth]

last year I did grass fields
most recent one was dune desert

but I wanted to restart with some self imposed rules

[leaden turret]

rocky desert has convenient access to all resources

[prisma thicket]

I'd say try Rocky Desert

North West is my favourite starting spot, but you can also get really good starts in the North East and South East corners of the biome.

[maiden jacinth]

icic

main rule is gonna be no open belts
and all machines in buildings

[steady violet]

the dust isnt kind to conveyors

[leaden turret]

enshroud entire map in walls and foundations, problem solved

[maiden jacinth]

that would be defeating the point

[lament niche]

L

[dense violet]

just put foundations the whole way so the belts are clipped through them

[lament niche]

house all conveyors in long man-made tunnels

[maiden jacinth]

im just gonna use trucks

[mortal ginkgo]

B O L D move.

[maiden jacinth]

how so

[mortal ginkgo]

teasing you, they are cool

making waypoints is odd and cute at the same time

[maiden jacinth]

I mean theyre def worse then belts
but like
everything is worse then belts

[mortal ginkgo]

extreme disagree to a point that I can't disagree more.

but you do you

[maiden jacinth]

you think trucks are better then belts?

[latent prawn]

trucks and tractors have a place in the game, you can't do very complicated things with them, but if used right, you can move 2+ belts worth of goods considerable distance in them

[mortal ginkgo]

I dont even wanna talk about how good the trains are.

[latent prawn]

yeah, they're like mk10 belts

i just wish that rails were less effort to build

[mortal ginkgo]

majority of people have no idea why their game performance is bad when they have 1200/sec moving 10k items or more in 500+ conveyor belts going around the world map

trucks and trains also dont need to be upgraded

I mean I can't imagine having the time to upgrade all belts to mk6 from mk5

like, I would add one more train if I needed more output 😛

[mortal ginkgo]

1.1 might fix that

[latent prawn]

1.1 makes some improvements

i'm not complaining, but they're bandaids on a time consuming building system

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, you are building a train system. It is bound to take time. Especially the one that goes around the whole map

However once you do it, you are guchi

[latent prawn]

last night for instance, i pushed a rail line down the length of the canyon down into rocky desert to the spot that ramps up to crater lakes and down to coal lake. building that track without decorating it took a good 3 hrs of work

[maiden jacinth]

trains are a different thing yea

ive seen that those are used a lot

[maiden jacinth]

I wish belts were more effort to build over long distances

[latent prawn]

which i don't mind doing, but it would be cool if something like that were an hour's project instead of an entire session

[mortal ginkgo]

it is more effort. They cost your time and later on they will cost more of your time to upgrade.

this game is sandbox almost in literal sense

[maiden jacinth]

yea I heard the devs talking about what they wont add

and a lot of the desgin decisions made sense after that

I still think that belts are too easy in a way that makes the game worse

[latent prawn]

in general, rails just take a lot of work to build over distances. I really think the game would benefit from some method of covering long distances quickly

[steady violet]

it was so much worse before blueprints

[mystic island]

Dude I'm about to finish phase 2 of the space elevator

[latent prawn]

my current project is centralizing the world's quartz, and like building the rails for it is just going to take me a while

[mystic island]

But the Mk.2 miners and all the stuff with coal just made my base obsolete.

Though the thought of rebuilding dreads me so I'm planning on just starting anew far away. You guys did this too?

[latent prawn]

use mk2 belts sparingly. they're really expensive

[maiden jacinth]

I decided to restart just now cuz of that ngl

I dont want to give into the spaget

[mystic island]

Unironically Mk3 belts are cheaper lol

[maiden jacinth]

what do mk2 belts use again

[mystic island]

Reinforced iron

[latent prawn]

rips

[maiden jacinth]

ah

its not bad if you have some good alts tho

[latent prawn]

yeah, unfortunately the good alts to use come later in game progression

rips get really cheap with adhered plate & coated iron plate

[rose field]

About to buy the game and run first time... any tips advice? I didn't wanna spoil myself too much with youtube vids

[zenith pecan]

Just have fun, try everything with everything, you get your first playthrough only once, don't spoil it.

[latent prawn]

just listen to the stuff that ada says and try to get a little production of everything going as you unlock new things

[maiden jacinth]

build things in ways that are satisfying to you

the game is a cozy game, resources arent that finite and you can copy paste blueprints and stuff

[swift kernel]

Be careful entering into caves. At the very least, don't enter them at night with the lights off.

[rose field]

so theres actual enemies? i thought it was just relaxed crasfting and such

[swift kernel]

Yes. Just like animals and stuff

[swift kernel]

I'm just going to come out and say it. If you have ||arachno||phobia, there's a setting for that.

[maiden jacinth]

made my first lil building

[swift kernel]

Gj

[rose field]

Lol... no worries there... I'm just hoping to learn the basics and eventually maybe find some chill people to relax sir back and have some fun with

[maiden jacinth]

a miner constructor and smelter

[swift kernel]

As long as you stay away from the red forest, you'll be happy.

[abstract heron]

ummm i did it

[rose field]

Played alot of DSP when it fiest came out .. might need some help with how blueprints work... I struggled to figure that part out well on DSP

[abstract heron]

16,500 hrs TOTAL On the GAME!

[steady violet]

you can disable them if you dont want them, lots of player friendly tweaks in the options

one of the things this game does best

[swift kernel]

Blueprints have a dedicated machine later on. Don't worry about them; you'll unlock them later

[rose field]

I heard the were some QoL mods for the game

R any of them really really good/necessary?

[steady violet]

just go vanilla for the first time

best way to experience the game as intended, and you wont know what you want to change without having played it first

[rose field]

True enough

[steady violet]

its a very complete package without mods, lots of quality of life mods kinda got rolled into the base game as it developed

[rose field]

im shocked theres no VC lobby in this discord TBH

[swift kernel]

Yeah, all the mods I use are only because I've been playing since alpha. I may have never gotten to the end of the game, but I'm pretty sure I have more than 1000 hours collectively with it.

[maiden jacinth]

you can build in a 32x32 frame
save it
and paste it into the world

[maiden jacinth]

vertical splitters

[steady violet]

yeah

but like i said, dont know what you're missing till you played it normally

[maiden jacinth]

fun fact, you can put miners on foundations

[last jackal]

Sadly not the large foundations.

[maiden jacinth]

works on 2ms at least

[rose field]

It says no controller support... and my Xbox controller doesn't do anything

[last jackal]

Isn't this game still compatible with a controller?

[dense violet]

can't be moderated.

[cunning ingot]

u can turn the game peaceful

[maiden jacinth]

I feel like power generation might be one of the biggest challanges until I get trucks ngl

[reef mortar]

not sure where to go for thisw but figure i could ask here.
Any mods that would give ability to zoop everything? including for example Constructors, Splitters, everything.

I see Zoopables but is that to only that section of building menu?

I'll give it a try.

[rose field]

Am I missing something or is there quite a bit of manual mining in the beginning?

[reef mortar]

sort of, if you get the rocks that are above gives you a tad more, then get a portable miner which helps a bit and you can put multiple on a node.

[dense violet]

use the auto miners you build

and you're in the pre tutorial at that point really

[rose field]

Don't think I have those yet

[dense violet]

check your hub and equipment work shop

[reef mortar]

you make with the crafting workshop, not at the bench.

In special Section of your build menu.

[dense violet]

you shouldn't have to hand mine very much at all as you get them very quick

[dense violet]

that's for buildings, the work shop menu don't have that I don't think

[reef mortar]

The workshop is in that section to place down it is all.

[rose field]

Ahhhhh

[dense violet]

when you do build them, you can drop multiple on the same node and collect a bunch at once

[rose field]

Didn't notice the difference between workshop and bench

[dense violet]

but you get a real miner building very quickly too

[reef mortar]

yeah. they're mainly for equipment like weapons and other gear for later use, i wont spoil for you. 😄

I would make 3, find a copper, iron and limestone to throw on each.

just a quick tip. 🙂

[dense violet]

I'd throw a few on each node before you get permanent miners honestly

they don't mine very fast individually

[reef mortar]

especially limestone and iron. pain in butt for those compared to copper.

i'm playing on Satisifactory Plus modpack, after about 18 hours i'm finally in tier 3. 😄

although, i tend to get distracted.

[dense violet]

oh something else to pay very close attention to, the MAM. That one is in your 'special' section of your build menu.

research that stuff as soon as you can. Loads of goodies

people often just kinda ignore it to their own pain

[maiden jacinth]

only the very beginning

[rose field]

Thnx... I think as I said my biggest hurdle is the no gamepad... I'm struggling to remember different buttons... lol

[dense violet]

it'd be worse with a controller, not enough buttons

[rose field]

Those auto miners have been Integral.. glad I asked

[dense violet]

you'll get there

[rose field]

DSP worked fine with KB/m

I mean gamepad

[dreamy kestrel]

controller support is coming with 1.1

[reef mortar]

this game is really nice to sit back and let yourself be immersed, as in you're not timed, your not going to be shot at, well most of the time, i usually have the animals on passive lol.

[dreamy kestrel]

the worst part about controller is not being able to type things for searching/filtering

so if youre gonna use controller i'd keep a keyboard nearby anyway

[dense violet]

there's a lot of short cuts you probably don't know about.
codex
eyedrop
build modes
various radial menus that can interact with how you use the mouse
... a lot

[dense violet]

like look below your curse as you're building, it shows different options you can do while building that item, and there are a lot of items with different build modes/buttons

the only way you'd be able to manage it with a controller is adding a ton of sub menu actions that would add a lot of time

[mystic island]

Dude. I just built a stator fac specifically to build advanced wiring. Now I need way more to make motors.

[dense violet]

use the recipes that rotors and stators use the same items