satisfactory

[clever pier]

at least the toilet gives you some funny ada lines if you flush rare stuff

[rugged trail]

yeah those are good too, im just used to rebars by now

[plain hatch]

They would have to rebuild the game from the ground up to make it possible lol

[clever pier]

nah they'd just need a "place current held equipment at target" key

then add a cooking mama mini game

[rugged trail]

imagine microwaving the rebar gun and washing the rifle

[clever pier]

planet crafter is a sort of similar game and you can make recipes to heal you

it does have automation

[rugged trail]

so inhalers?

[clever pier]

yeah but more than one end result

[rugged trail]

thats nice

although id say theres only so much stuff you can make with the 3 edibles biomass protein and mycelia

[clever pier]

how do we just inhale all the nutrients we need? we definitely aren't a human

some kind of clone abomination made by FICSIT

[rugged trail]

i dont think we inhale them, more like turn them into painkillers or something

[clever pier]

the lore is ambiguous but I think we definitely aren't a standard human

[midnight fog]

super advanced humans

[rugged trail]

or maybe we are, we're just mutated so much by ficsit that we're kinda different from whatever we started with. still very much human though, only with a hampered sense of self worth free will and justice to stop us from rebelling

[midnight fog]

wrong discord?

[shut lava]

Na just Australian

[void gorge]

Hm?

FF*

[clever pier]

i'm an Australian and I can confirm we do actually need to sleep

[void gorge]

Haven't played WoW since early DF

[clever pier]

unlike the pioneer

[shut lava]

Propaganda

[void gorge]

No wait I tried TWW at launch

[rugged trail]

the pioneer is driven by the pure hatred toward alien life and biodiversity

or maybe im thinking too much in terms of factorio

[clever pier]

anyone seen the movie moon?

[lunar lance]

can someone tell a good place to get lots of lizard doggos,and i already know about the doggo cave

i am trying to make a doggo park

[clever pier]

I think the pioneer is like the character in moon, promised they will get to go back to earth and their family, but they never had a family, its all implanted memories because they are just clone number #5764

[latent prawn]

spire coast has a bunch and there's an area to the side of the swamp with a mini doggo cave as well

[clever pier]

where is the main doggo cave?

[lunar lance]

do you know the coordinates for it?

[latent prawn]

haha, no not off top of head

[lunar lance]

if look at the coast of the left side of the map,you can se a "river" going into a cave

[clever pier]

ok thanks

I know where that is I think

[jade glade]

can I filter stuff coming from the docking stations?

[latent prawn]

nope

trains yes, trucks and tractors, no

[abstract heron]

Hey mikael

[midnight fog]

wow is dogshit lmao

I dont think anyone here know who that is

[zenith pecan]

That film was just tragic, even the AI lost all its growth.

Well butchered! 😜

[midnight fog]

how drunk are we rn?

[zenith pecan]

I'm quite sober, I ran out of Водка , so enforced sobriety.

[surreal ingot]

I wish you didn’t need the HUB

[midnight fog]

you're good, my question was aimed at somebody else

[zenith pecan]

Fair enough.

[frozen cloud]

issue is
hes always like this

and cat loving

[zenith pecan]

Yeah, mind altering drugs are best avoided.

[midnight fog]

thats cool I guess, but surely thats unhealthy

[shell scroll]

Well, there has to be somewhere to deposit goods, and the Elevator can only do big batches. Hub seems to be for small amounts of many things to upgrade.

[surreal ingot]

I just meant like you should be able to like get rid of it later and like just have the upgrade monitor or something. I can’t find a way to make the HUB fit into the design I am but just a monitor would work great

[reef forge]

43 hours on this save and i have just automated 3 heavy modular frames a minute 👍

[surreal ingot]

Like how you can have just the crafting bench

[shell scroll]

Well, it's the landing zone for the freighter as well as housing for the Pioneer. It would be nice to be able to build them separate, but the fact that it's all together apparently makes it all buildable with very little material (20 lots of unrefined iron, how efficient!)

You could always just put it somewhere not visible, or build decor around it. Mine's attached to my megastorage & MaM so everything needing mats are close together.

[blissful violet]

im 50 hours and just finished the satis factories needed to complete Phase 2, i think im kinda slow

[surreal ingot]

That would work yeah, but It would be nicer if you could build just the pad you know?

[abstract heron]

yup the compact coal is not going nicely flowing

i am going to be happy for 1.1 to have threwput stuff

[abstract heron]

UPDATE at 513,00MW atm

[steady edge]

when it comes to space elevator parts like smart plating, would it be better to assemble such materlias in your general plants, or separately build just the essential machines to get those, and feed them with the materials needed to assemble them?

[abstract heron]

debating on plastic plant or rubber which is more useful from 2700 to 8100 plastic or rubber or DD factory a bit working on that base

[steady edge]

cause smart platings are sucking my iron

and I feel like you don't really need them at all times

[abstract heron]

for me if 1 a minute is fine or i hand feed them materials like 50 of the 2 items and let it run

then after i delete it all

and once i need again then i can use them 🙂

[steady edge]

then I probably don't want to add them to my factory

for context,

okay weirdly enought it wont let me paste a ss here

ah

no attachments here

[abstract heron]

@zenith pecan UPDATE ITS AT 524,000MW

[steady edge]

so, #screenshots message
this is what I want my factory to produce

[abstract heron]

i say TEMPORARY machines for Space elevator projects @steady edge

[steady edge]

i know.

[surreal ingot]

There also needs to be a sort of filter at some point so that I can send a bunch of stuff on one belt and seperate it based on what it is

[steady edge]

#screenshots message
and this is what I have to work with

[abstract heron]

for the unlocking first 2 then tier 4 before tier 9 then i do bigger systems which i am working on now first was getting a TON of power

[steady edge]

actually lemme just make a post

[abstract heron]

what is the end goal? of the item u want to make

[midnight fog]

isnt that programmable splitter?

[surreal ingot]

Is there one? I haven’t reached end game yet

[midnight fog]

yes

[surreal ingot]

(I’ve actually never gotten past coal without restarting)

I’m gonna try and go as far as I can this save

[green fiber]

How come

[steady edge]

#1378090244485943358 message

[dim field]

is there a calculator that intake multiple alternative recepies ?

[abstract heron]

Satisfactory calactor

[hard ivy]

Satisfactory Tools

[abstract heron]

i meant Satisfactory tools

I HAD THE TITLE on me not typed yet

🤣 😂

[surreal ingot]

When I find i did something unoptimal and it isn't a quick fix i feel deflated and jsut restart so I can build it up better from the start.

[dim field]

awesome thx

[surreal ingot]

which is usually around when I get coal

[shell scroll]

It's in the MAM in the Caterium tree. Smart Splitters can be very useful, although I try not to use "sushi belts" if I can help it.

[abstract heron]

YAY 535,000MW ATM YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dim field]

what combo for computers do u guys use ?

[swift kernel]

I typically have my CPU and GPU installed into my motherboard. Never fails.

[abstract heron]

debating on plastic plant or rubber which is more useful from 2700 to 8100 plastic or rubber or DD factory a bit working on that base

[dim field]

i thought of silicone circuits boards and caterium computers

or is there a combo that makes more sense that i might miss

[surreal ingot]

I have an idea for a mega storage similar to how I do my storages in minecraft

[hard ivy]

I do cat+cat

[dim field]

i guess yeah brings it down to oil and cat

[shell scroll]

It took me about 8 blueprints in the biggest tier, but I have a set of blueprints to sort everything.

[midnight fog]

I dont wanna spoil for you but I wouldn't do central storage

[shell scroll]

I'd disagree. A central storage can still be useful, as the spoiler can only be used so quickly. My bigger projects had me scrambling to make more concrete, for example.

[dim field]

do u have a spot on map where you build that factory or do u just bring them wherever u are

[surreal ingot]

I mean once i have trucks and shit it shouldn't be too hard tbh

[hard ivy]

eastern end of the desert canyon

[dim field]

why is the calculator showing me sam XD +

i didnt select a item that need sam

[hard ivy]

resource conversion

disable sam/converter/the recipes

[dim field]

i noticed

[clear yew]

Any tips for new players

[midnight fog]

I would say find hardrives and unlock alt recipes

[dim field]

just play the game

let it flow and have fun

[hard ivy]

and mam in general

[midnight fog]

yeah

[clear yew]

Thanks I will

[mystic oriole]

Take your time, no rush

[reef basin]

play the game, listen to ADA, don't let others spoil the game for you

[mystic oriole]

lol, listen to ADA... it's a game not a second job

[hollow brook]

Imagine if ADA and PDA (Subnautica) got into an argument over who's the better assistant.

[midnight fog]

PDA wins by along shot

[hollow brook]

Honestly, I agree.

[midnight fog]

the PDA actually help you in the game as ADA is always sassy and not helping at all

[hollow brook]

I mean, yeah. The PDA actually can keep you alive and warn you of bad things. If the PDA was with you, and noticed you were going to a mid-late game area, I'd probably imagine it would say "Detecting numerous Alpha/Elite class fauna in the region" or some crap.

[dim field]

best ada speach is when unlock the train

choooo choo mother fker

[midnight fog]

"Detecting multiple leviathan class lifeforms in the region, are you certain whatever your doing is worth it?"

[hollow brook]

That's exactly the reference.

[midnight fog]

oh yeah I remember that lol

[hollow brook]

If we're being real, ADA would probably just insult the PDA, and the PDA would give a mountain of actual reasons why it's better.

Ficsit should really learn from Alterra.

But anyway, I love both games so much. I just like survival and building games equally.

[dire hearth]

The coal-powered generator needs a look at the water level isn't changing after adding water to it

[hollow brook]

Build a water tower right next to the extractors, then you'll never need a pump again.

[green fiber]

Thats just pumping with extra steps

[cyan garnet]

Water towers are pointless IMO. Direct pipes w pumps work fine and are much simpler

[green fiber]

Assuming you go up, you wont need pumps again anyway

[cyan garnet]

“Use water towers to eliminate pumps!” (Still requires pumps to go to the top of the tower)

[surreal ingot]

getting a little better
#screenshots message

[hollow brook]

Eh, I like it cuz all the pumps are in a single spot.

I guess it just depends.

[cyan garnet]

Make a thread in #1038092680493801533 and share screenshots of your build and describe your issue

[waxen locust]

omg. I just saw it. on the 1.1 update background. theres a lizard doggo that appears on the packaged water conveyor belt

[dire hearth]

bones I seen the problem is that my mod mode it look like 10/50 instead 50/50 in the water scale

[sullen gull]

Hrmmmm, would be awesome if the pipeline wall mounts stacked similar to Conveyor ceiling mounts.

[waxen locust]

well the conveyor wall mounts dont either

[sullen gull]

Not the wall mounts, but the ceiling mounts do. And the pipeline wall mounts are used on walls and ceilings. Just trying to run two runs of pipe, stacked 6 high (12 total pipes), along a wall. I'lll just 'fake it' and nudge the wall mounts out I think.

[cyan garnet]

Need stackable pipe mounts to work on ceilings like ceiling conveyor mounts

[sullen gull]

Just gonna 'fake it' like so: #screenshots message

[rugged trail]

nic

[rugged trail]

if you got alternate recipes rubber is much more useful. but if youre doing default recipes then plastic

[rugged trail]

smart plates are a waste, they're only ever good for space elevator so id say just make enough to pass the thing then stop production

[abstract heron]

ill do rubber 8100 and maybe 7650 plastic or half idk yet

[rugged trail]

smart suffices

[merry kettle]

You'll need lots of smart plating for later elevator stuff, until you've beaten the game they're still worth making and stockpiling

[rugged trail]

either way its easy to adapt oil factories

[abstract heron]

i might set up the HOR then debate then might take a break in summer due to heat

[rugged trail]

thats basically the entire game tho. you wont get past phase 3 like this cuz theres always a more efficient way to do things that makes you rebuild everything from the groun up

[surreal ingot]

Until you finally do all the optimized things

[rugged trail]

well youre gonna quit by then so

or maybe start a game with all alt recipes unlocked? that might help plan ahead

[swift kernel]

Source: this has literally been me since alpha

I've poured hours into this game and only made it to phase 4 on my first file when I was making a complete mess of spaghetti.

[abstract heron]

@rugged trail at atm 512,000MW at best WOOT

need to figure out more to be done but that can be later issue for me

[rugged trail]

congrats

[rugged trail]

yea me too. had to put the game down just for a few hours to think about how am i even gonna deal with this mess and fix it up. i did it in the end tho

[abstract heron]

some went down i was thinking adding a extra 300 i found some machines not getting a extra comp is that okay?

to help it with that

[zenith pecan]

I can finally bin the time crystal cans since I'm actually making them again.

[rugged trail]

not getting extra comp isnt a problem but if they arent getting enough then it will tank your efficiency

either way 535 gw is a lot by itself. but it can still be better

[zenith pecan]

Alien poer augmentors ftw!

[abstract heron]

yes i am debating on doing that

[rugged trail]

indeed. best thing even without the matrix

[abstract heron]

i found a few in a line not getting enough comp

[rugged trail]

well thats a problem

[abstract heron]

ill look at it later

[round hound]

So will this game have an expansion? lol

[surreal ingot]

Will I? Damn time travelers, always spoiling my life for me

[rugged trail]

well this is your cue to prove them all wrong. snobby know it alls thinking they are hot shit

[rugged trail]

you mean a sequel?

[midnight fog]

I dont think more than 1 is a good idea

I prefer to use sloops on something else

[rugged trail]

honestly i have no use for sloops unless im pushing the world to its very limit resource wise

[round hound]

Nah, just adding to the game. I thought I recalled before Snuff left that they were gauging the interest of having a paid expansion.

[rugged trail]

so its still pretty good. except i already am making enough power even without ama, so its useless either way... but number must always go up

[midnight fog]

yeah? but sloops always make the numbers go up for free

except power which is easy to make

[surreal ingot]

Only time I’m quitting is if my friends finally finish making that Minecraft Create SMP

[rugged trail]

i dont like relying on sloops and power shards. and unless im running out of resources(which i am not yet) id rather make new lines to then upgrade later

[rugged trail]

minecraft create smp?

[surreal ingot]

A Minecraft SMP with a main focus on the Create mod

[zenith pecan]

Я не знаю 🤷‍♂️

[surreal ingot]

Industrial Revolution Simulator in minecraft

[zenith pecan]

Sloops are cool and all, collecting them, not so much.

[rugged trail]

exactly. i already barely managed to motivate myself to get all the hard drives and enough mercers to auto upload everything i need. going after somers is just a waste for me since im not gonna use them anyway till like the very end of my project

[rugged trail]

never heard of it. sounds cool

[midnight fog]

youre not supposed to rely on them in first place, its best used on space parts so you can be done with it quicker

[surreal ingot]

It’s cool, very similar to satisfactory gameplay but better because of the unlimited amount of things you can make in Minecraft

[rugged trail]

thats what i used to tell my friends, they're crutches that are best left not used cuz they make you lazy in the long run. not me though im better than that(cope)

[zenith pecan]

Slooped shards ftw!

[rugged trail]

thats the only exception im willing to make lol

[sturdy mural]

guys what part of plutonium can be sinked? the fuel cells? the rods?

or are the pellets alright?

[midnight fog]

Plutonium rods

[unkempt blade]

I feel the same about anything beyond solid biofuel. It's just a crutch for weaklings who aren't built different like me

[rugged trail]

packaged fuel? turbo fuel? rocket fuel? miss me with that shit

if you aint running 2gw of solid biofuel you arent playing right

[unkempt blade]

Factory Carts on the other hand I use for love of the game

[rugged trail]

the superior transporation method

[abstract heron]

I might rebalance it

[unkempt blade]

yeah they're the oompa loompas of vehicles - what's not to love?

[rugged trail]

the comp or solid biofuel?

[abstract heron]

Comp

[rugged trail]

i was getting worried lol

[abstract heron]

The last last belt is not getting enough comp

[rugged trail]

alright. either add extra comp to the tail end of the line or get some from a previous full comp line

[unkempt blade]

the secret is to sloop your biomass and solid fuel constructors

[rugged trail]

truly the peak efficiency that ficsit strives for. pioneer of the month material right here

[midnight fog]

why not hunt aliens and sloop protein and make biomass

[rugged trail]

you might get a mental cookie from ada by doing better than those rival moons that she insists that are doing better than us

[unkempt blade]

it's green power - reduce resloop rechainsaw

[surreal ingot]

Unironically why I want terraforming. I wanna make a city sized biofuel grid that fucks hard

[rugged trail]

me too. i wish i could automate biofuel. honestly if i could i wouldnt even go for any of the other power sources like coal oil and nukes. but then id become the terminator of the world, and at that point i might as well play factorio

[tall ivy]

Please, for the love of ADA let us turn off spawning of Beans, they are more useless than anything, and ALWAYS IN THE WAY.

[surreal ingot]

Imagine if you could create biofuel god that would be cool

[supple wedge]

ive got an idea for a feature for 1.2 where should i post the suggestion other than reddit?

[merry kettle]

Just gun them down.

[rugged trail]

you technically can but its just manual

[rugged trail]

give em a lil zap. they'll scurry off

[unkempt blade]

bean saddles confirmed for 1.1 when?!?!

[surreal ingot]

ADA let us kill these mfer please

[merry kettle]

You can kill the beans. Just takes a lot of bullets. Or explosives.

[tall ivy]

Doing it once is fun, doing it twice gets less so, doing for the millionth time... miss me with that LUL

[supple wedge]

4-5 nobelisks

[tall ivy]

Its like Sisyphus dealing with Beans

[rugged trail]

and thats why i automated explosives

[unkempt blade]

or nuclear nobelisks... but harvest all that sweet sweet plant matter first to feed the machines

[tall ivy]

Or give us a freaking "Anti-Bean Beacon"

[merry kettle]

I haven't noticed them respawning after I blow them up

At least in areas where the activity is high enough

[tall ivy]

hmmm maybe im just having bean ptsd I feel they keep respawning after death

[rugged trail]

a noise emitter at a frequency we cant hear but wrecks the beans brains, stopping them from spawning in our vicinity

[supple wedge]

they do respawn just like all enemies if you dont build directly on the ground, a lot of my factory is up on stilts

[rugged trail]

we already have the boombox, why not use it for something?

[tall ivy]

SKY BASE!

Yeah give us a Tape that emits a high-frequency noise that deters Beans

[rugged trail]

best kinda base. no clutter no dealing with weird topology

just kinda hard to get liquids up there

[tall ivy]

monkaS

[supple wedge]

the great water tower in the sky

[rugged trail]

or just package as needed and send up then unpackage and send down

[supple wedge]

i really have a good idea for 1.2 or a mod for satisfactory that would make belts more satisfying

is there a good spot in the discord to suggest it?

[supple wedge]

the more complicated the better IMO

[merry kettle]

I like a mixture of altitudes, gives vistas a nice bit of texture.

Skybox is easy but visually boring

[surreal ingot]

I no have bullets just this bat

[tall ivy]

What do y'all do to keep the game interesting when starting ove ra new world? Any sort of self-imposed challenges?

[rugged trail]

the game is challenging enough to keep everything efficient. i dont think it needs extra stuff

[merry kettle]

Depends. Sometimes I cheat like crazy. Sometimes I decide something like "All nontrivial transportation in this run will be done by trains."

Just depends on what sounds interesting at the time!

[tall ivy]

I just mean it feels like going through the motions: biomass > coal > fuel > nuclear or rocket fuel, etc

[rugged trail]

well you could always play the game as it was meant to be played and go all the game with biofuel

[tall ivy]

Maybe I will just forgo fuel and do nuclear

[tall ivy]

LUL

[merry kettle]

If you're tired of doing power over and over again, either turn it off in advanced settings, or cheat for the materials to do the ADA research and build 20 alien power thingies.

[tall ivy]

I do mean, not doing rocket-fuel

[rugged trail]

you know its cleaner and all

[unkempt blade]

I build rainbows and gigantic emojis everywhere #screenshots message

[mortal ginkgo]

Game has its own challenges no? I see many people skipping Nuclear because its a pain to setup but isn't it meant to be?

[tall ivy]

oh lord @unkempt blade

[unkempt blade]

I also overuse factory carts

[rugged trail]

nukes only problem is the waste. yea its more complicated but not prohibitely. my first run i did nukes instead of fuel and it was actually fine

[tall ivy]

Well ideally you'd turn the waste into plutonium to be sunk to points

[mortal ginkgo]

game got some ridiculous late game stuff

like that Human Made Matrix thing

[rugged trail]

yea well then you get plut waste. also plut is the actual complex thing

[tall ivy]

I mean you make whatever plutonium item CAN be awesome sunk, Not burning Plutonium

[rugged trail]

basically useless unless you got more than 500gw going. which you wont unless you try to maximise every form of energy possible

[tall ivy]

I think the Plut Rods can be turned into Coops

[rugged trail]

they can but at that point why not burn it? all that effort just to sink? quite wasteful

[tall ivy]

I mean then you'd have to deal with double the waste, no? NUclear and Plut?

[rugged trail]

plut is more manageable but still will cause problems if left unchecked

[tall ivy]

But it will still build up forever, no?

[rugged trail]

so in short just like in real life, if its too good to be true, then it is. and nuke might seem really good at first but the cost to actually deal with the waste puts you off. not that it isnt possible if you like a challenge but still

[rugged trail]

ficsonium son

[mortal ginkgo]

You are meant to fisco them plut waste bois

[surreal ingot]

Why not “all transportation will be done with trains”

[tall ivy]

nano-machines son!

[rugged trail]

thats just your average satisfactory run

[merry kettle]

Well you have to get stuff onto the train.

[surreal ingot]

More trains obviously

[rugged trail]

they harden in response to grid instability

[tall ivy]

CHOO CHOO motha-f**** -ada probably

[rugged trail]

thats basically what i named my main train in the game lol

[mortal ginkgo]

Real 100% alpha males transport stuff manually and still keep it all 100% efficient.

[tall ivy]

I need to get my beloved; trains, going but im a few tiers away

Dare I set up a map-wide circuit.. A FOURTH TIME?!

[rugged trail]

and that thing is the lifeblood of my main facility, my adapt and supercomputer facility, alu and oil on the west and nuke in the middle

[merry kettle]

My next game is, indeed, going to feature factory carts as my only nontrivial transportation choice. I want to see how crazy that gets

[mortal ginkgo]

Truck Station fans where you at!

I was really surprised how fast the station loads and unloads stuff.

[merry kettle]

I actually prefer trucks to trains after playing with both of them. They're more satisfying.

[mortal ginkgo]

I thought "oh it will take some time to get tractor loaded I suppose" and then it was loaded full in 9 seconds or so

[abstract heron]

Next project making. 8100 rubber plant @rugged trail @merry kettle

[rugged trail]

wont hurt to add another layer on top

[mortal ginkgo]

You can even make those boys jump around with jump pads. Give it a try.

[rugged trail]

thats a whole lot. you wanna keep the rocket or make new facility?

[merry kettle]

Getting that wrong and having to redo a kilometer-long trek would make me sad, though.

[mortal ginkgo]

git gud

[merry kettle]

...but that does sound hilarious as I think about making "broken" bridges

[rugged trail]

just remove the wrong flasher things they leave behind. problem solved

[tribal elk]

i tried to give trucks a chance. i really did

[abstract heron]

Keep bluecrater lake for now rf I’ll move all other nodes to alumin build

[tribal elk]

maybe i didnt make enough infrastructure accommodation for them

[rugged trail]

alright good luck

[mortal ginkgo]

I gave them a chance too. First time I made them it worked flawlessly. I still yet to see why people are having problems with them

[abstract heron]

Debating on 7650 plastic ish

[atomic notch]

for what

[rugged trail]

no they're just bad compared to trains. too much effort to set them up just so that you get longer delivery times and you gotta worry about their fuel too.

[merry kettle]

The real trick that makes trucks great is this: You can build truck stations in series. Your cargo gets mixed up, which is a problem, but it makes them a lot more extensible than you might think.

[tribal elk]

i mean, dedicated truck tracks aren't that much harder than train tracks and train stations

[tall ivy]

So... my last world i tried to make a subway under my railway, a enclosed oval to have hyper-tubes.... I guess i got burned out because I realized I had not planned for heights, and making it so that the "subway" would always be enclosed no matter if I had to "go up" or not. I wonder if there'se a way to design a fully enclosed subway, with up/down in mind

[rugged trail]

youre gonna spend hours just setting smart splitters to manage them right

[merry kettle]

I'm wildly aware

[mortal ginkgo]

the answer is yes. I got a logistics ground instead of foundations. you just need to prepare bunch of blueprints that can connect to each other like legos

[tribal elk]

in theory, a single programmable splitter does what a train station can do, but only for a given truck stop

then you need another truck stop to get another separate load

[tall ivy]

Id be curious to see some screenshots, so I acn see if we're thinking of the same concept :3

[rugged trail]

honestly it really depends on what recipes youre using for production. you might need a lotta plastic, or virtually insignificant amounts

[unkempt blade]

get to an even 8000 and sink it all for coupons!

[rugged trail]

while plastic isnt worth much coupon wise, 8000 of it being sunk does sound enticing

more plastic for the plastic gods

[tribal elk]

i wonder what landfill all the sink stuff goes to

[unkempt blade]

get Coke to sponsor it

[tribal elk]

maybe mercer sphere-chan's interdimensional space?

[merry kettle]

That wasn't directed at me, but some screenshots of some of my logistics layers:
#screenshots message

[rugged trail]

this is ficsit. it probably gets dumped on some poor intern to create higher grade items by hand in solitary work stations

[unkempt blade]

I like your little towery things

[blissful violet]

for Phase 3, how many Adaptive Control Units (100 needed and 1000 for Phase 4) are normal to produce? Bc im struggling to make 1/min 😅

[merry kettle]

I have some more current designs, those are from a year or so ago, but I don't have -good- pictures of them; they're mixed in here: #screenshots message

[tribal elk]

i have this sinking, unnerving feeling that ADA is rogue, and humanity no longer actually exists

[rugged trail]

i did fine with 3/min

[blissful violet]

that is a massive amount

wait i remembered i can use somersloop to double it right? Same input, x2 output

ts is key

[abstract heron]

I’ll train it where it needs to go but I want to get the prices in for factory’s

[rugged trail]

feeling? its basically canon with all her quips at us about pupies kitten and grandma dying cuz we arent efficient enough. theres just ada and her expansion servers dominating every star system

[rugged trail]

using somer for manu in those phases might be dangerous power wise

[merry kettle]

I was aiming for a FF7 under-plate Midgard feel

[blissful violet]

final fantasy 7? Whar r u talking abt lol

[tribal elk]

i'd speculate on lore, but i'm reminded of hearing that Oda may have mentioned disliking One Piece theorists lately, which makes me think there's, uh, "tact" limits to that sort of thing in general

that said, there's an entire channel for story spoilers, so idk

[wanton lance]

guys If I have 4 miners each making 120 ore per min on a pure node can I merge then all into 1 mk 2 belt line and then split then once it hits my base without any bottle necking?

[rugged trail]

mk2 has a max carry of 120/min so no you'll get bottlenecked hard. if you cant use better rails just deliver them in parallel

[unkempt blade]

if you open the build tool menu and find the conveyor it'll tell you their max rate

[atomic notch]

nah you would have to clock em down to 30 each

[wanton lance]

ok thx

but I could split it into 2 lines of mk1 belts correct?

[rugged trail]

right

[merry kettle]

More modern logistics stuff: #screenshots message

The design there has large transportation hubs connected by a rail network, and then underground trucks pick up mixed goods and deliver them to factories' loading zones. Excess mixed goods, and finished goods, get dropped off into the factory's unloading zone, which the truck then picks up and returns to the transportation hub.

The under-factory logistics for a constructor factory is shown in one of the screenshots; it's pretty simple. Hard to get a good picture for assemblers, much less manufacturers. Waiting for 1.1 to be properly released before I continue on that save, because the lack of vertical splitters makes everything very messy without clipping.

[slim ocean]

Ionized just doesn't really cut down usage much at all. It's negligible.

[merry kettle]

(I can't get a good picture of the constructors themselves, even, it's kind of just a wall of lifts, splitters, and conveyers.)

Vertical splitters, on the other hand, let you go straight up/down from/into the floor and hide almost everything in the logistics layer while still allowing vertical machine stacks.

[dusky relic]

Probably a question that gets asked a lot but

Is there a mod that allows auto connecting wires with schematics

[fossil ice]

Official Satisfactory Wiki

This is the totally awesome community driven wiki for Satisfactory!! Come on in and check it out!
<3 @dim field

[forest bridge]

how do you guys go about splitting materials when you need a speicifc number from a larger batch

Like I have 200 plastic coming out of one belt, and I just want 40 of it to go to one place, and 160 to go to the other

is it just a bunch of splitters and mergers

[severe elm]

heavy modular frames are annoying

[atomic notch]

splitter

it will auto balance

[severe elm]

mhm, one side will fill up faster then the rest will go to the other side

[indigo oak]

Just use a mk1 belt and the ones that are too much will just "overflow" to the other outputs of the splitter

[midnight fog]

the 40 will backup eventually and the rest will go to the 160

[forest bridge]

cool thanks

[left totem]

Manifold

Both sides will be flowing at 100 plastic/min

The 40/min side will fill up and only take 40/min now
which makes the other belt take 200-40 = 160

[night lotus]

Use 3 of the machines that use the 40 plastic

And underclock one

[dusky relic]

Can I remove the experiemental message in the top left?

[prisma thicket]

On June 10th when 1.1 comes to stable branch.

[atomic notch]

Yeah you gotta switch out of experimental

[dusky relic]

You know what I mean 😭

[prisma thicket]

The experimental tag in the corner is always there if you are on experimental, the only way to get rid of it is to not play on experimental.

[static finch]

just close ur left eye while playing so u cant see it

[dusky relic]

Finally, an actual solution

Thank you Sparrow

[static finch]

np

[severe stream]

random reminder that if you sprint into a window it makes a Thunk sound.

[prisma thicket]

The sound of your helmet bouncing off the glass

[severe stream]

its hilarious

[lament depot]

guys will the console release also be on ps4

cuz i no have ps5

[cyan garnet]

We don’t know. They haven’t announced which consoles will eventually be supported

Everything we know is in #announcements

[jovial oracle]

Any tips on how to automate modular engines and adaptive control units?

[prisma thicket]

Modular engines are pretty straightforward, only 3 components and 2 of them are low volume. ACUs are a bit more of a pain because of the HMFs required, and I would highly recommend looking for alternate recipes to make those easier to build.

[jovial oracle]

Which alternate recipes would you suggest?

[prisma thicket]

Encased Industrial Pipe, Heavy Encased Frame are really nice for simplifying the build path. If you have lots of Iron available you can even inclue Iron Pipe, Iron Wire and Stitched Iron plate.

[shell sluice]

just 1 step at a time, start out with figuring out how many raw resources you need for a finished product, then what resource nodes you wanna build at that provide a decent output you are happy with, then ratios of raw products needed for the various intermediate parts

[prisma thicket]

If you don't have much iron in the area, you can also look into recipes like Iron alloy ingots (uses come copper to increase Iron ignot yield) or Solid steel ingots to get more steel, which can then be used for stuff like steel rods, steel screws and steeled frames.

[jovial oracle]

I got more hard drives but it's not showing me anymore alternate recipes after researching, why is this?

No.

Wut

[knotty ivy]

Just finished phase one, this is where the game becomes a pain in the ass doesn’t it lol? still excited though

[prisma thicket]

You have to scan the hard drive and then it will give you 2 options for alt recipes. If you don't want either of them, save it in the hard drive library or rescan for another 2. If the MAM says you cannont scan anymore hard drives you have all the ones currently available to you already.

[prisma thicket]

The game does get harder as you go along, but you also unlock more tools to help you deal with the added complexity. Just make sure you get coal power setup asap and do lots of exploring/research in the MAM

[abstract heron]

i am at now 517,000MW at best

[knotty ivy]

It’ll be nice to not have to go get leaves and wood now lol

[prisma thicket]

Yah, coal power really does free up your time.

[knotty ivy]

I have solid biofuel automated, but I still need to get the leaves and wood to plug in, it’s really only like every 2 hours I have to do it, so it’ll be nice to not have that in the back of my head

[prisma thicket]

If you have any troubles getting your coal power set up, don't be afraid to ask for help

[abstract heron]

in total per week

178.1hr in span of 2weeks maxeek

16,447 HR TOTAL

[static surge]

Is there a way to make a freight station automatically split two resources for outputting from the two output spots or do I have to use a smart splitter as i am currently?

so if i draw two belts from the two holes it will output the two different item types?

[bold herald]

what does a somersloop taste like

[sullen gull]

Awesomeness of course .. psssfh

[leaden turret]

strawberries, probably

[leaden turret]

@open bone somersloop ice cube mold, when?

[abstract heron]

i hope merch for summersloop

still issue every machine not getting enough fuel stuff

[static surge]

somersloop ice mold + strawberry soda and maybe fanta blend would be fire

edible somersloops

happiness multiplier:
2x

actually not fanta its pink and purple

[fierce shore]

So i started a new game in the Rocky Desert and was wondering howre you guys handling power? foilage is kinda sparse so i cant stick with biomass for as long as im used to. I rushed solid bioful as quick as i could and am keeping my power usage to a minimum till ican figure this out, but that means alot of hand crafting

[leaden turret]

you can get biomass from creature parts

[fierce shore]

Yeah i didnt think of that lol, ill have to go hunting i guess, its kinda hard in the roky desert because it is mostly those damn pods that shoot out bees and spitters from what i have seen but i can go looking

[static surge]

you get a TON of biomass from creatures

[peak wasp]

rush the coal, its ez

once u do that electricty porblem is over

[fierce shore]

Yeah it just feels hard because you have so many things you have to do to get to that but i guess i i focus and really do just rush coal its doable

[abstract heron]

@unborn gyro i might build a few extra 1.1 BP on June 9th or next week to help with autoconnecting

[hollow vector]

we need someone to make a controller a mew can use

mew ^2

[sullen gull]

Dawwlll

[abstract heron]

for merch mini one yes

i want the big bean big confusing creature and big doggo but that can be for later

[sullen gull]

I'm sure the doggo is thinking the same 😏

Kids will go crazy over a giant Stitch, but try to give them a sweet loving Lizard Doggo and they're like, Tf is this?

The shame i tell ya

Oh noes

[prisma thicket]

Is czech your first language?

[sullen gull]

Why "sadly"

Nope, English as a first here. And only know very rough Japanese.

🤷‍♂️

I'm assuming Dutch is rather difficult?

Had to know what my wife was saying to me when getting yelled at 😏

Spent two years there, and only know thank you, you're welcome, hurry up,

I wouldn't even envy me 🤣

Interesting to see SC games on primetime tv heh

What country doesn't 🤷‍♂️

W00t, way to bring it

🤷‍♂️

I know @prisma thicket is there lurking 😏

[fierce shore]

For early game would you guys suugest Iron Wire or Cast Screws? Im thinking Iron Wire but i thought id ask

[unkempt blade]

cast screws will make your life easier now, iron wire is more when you use up most of the local copper

[sullen gull]

Depends on your current needs/use cases. I personally like Iron wire before I need/use cast

This way I don't need to worry about having a copper node nearby. And I load up on drives early on, so I am usually getting the alts rather quickly anyhow (Those I can base on current tier anyhow)

[boreal musk]

cast screw skips iron rod step and use less power
iron wire exclude copper from production, but also uses more power, both alt has their own tradeoff, so its your choice

[prisma thicket]

Iron wire opens up more locations for factories, cast screws simplifies production. I tend to make more use of Iron wire, but I also avoid screws like the plague, so that might just be me lol

[boreal musk]

its very situational

[fierce shore]

Thanks thats all good input i think im gonna go for cast screws to simplity my production line

i havent even bult the Space Elevator or gotten power solved yet so i need to keep it as efficent as possible right now

[prisma thicket]

Sounds like a good plan.

[fierce shore]

Yeah normally i start up north, there is a spot with 3 pure iron nodes and 2 normal coppers but i wanted to try a new location

[prisma thicket]

2 normal copper probably also means you have no need for Iron wire right now as you have plenty of copper to cover your wire/cable/copper sheet needs.

Oh wait, you said you weren't starting there, my bad lol

[fierce shore]

its all good, i think i have 2 normal coppers here i am now too tbh, i started this play thru in the Rocky Desert

[prisma thicket]

Rocky desert is an amazing starting zone, if you know where the best spots are. I prefer North West, pretty sure @sullen gull prefers the eastern edge, and there's a couple decent starting areas to the southern edge as well, one has 6 normal iron nodes.

[last jungle]

is it a good idea to basically completely move from biomass to coal power?

[dense violet]

yes

why would you keep using manual power?

[last jungle]

wait can chainsaw use coal?

[dense violet]

no

[last jungle]

the only reason i would use it at that point is terrain clearing

[dense violet]

you basically can get through the game w/o every using the chain saw. If you just need to clear things there's bombs

[prisma thicket]

I would recommend having at least 16 coal gens up and running before tearing down your biomass setup, but once you have that you don't really need biomass anymore and can just store the biofuel for chainsaw use.

[sullen gull]

I am with you, Rocky desert is awesome. The base of the water falls is awesome

[fierce shore]

If i remember the biomass wont run unless you have a spike in power use wont it? So i usually keep some Biomass burners around to act as a power buffer

[last jungle]

good idea

[last jungle]

i have 2 coal gens rn lol

[fierce shore]

what zone did you start in?

[prisma thicket]

Lol that's only 150 MW of power, you're going to need much more than that very soon.

[last jungle]

wait how do i do the precise split thing again

like where theres a bar that u can move to split exactly that amount from the stack

[prisma thicket]

Hold right click

[last jungle]

ohh

the container was full thats why it didnt let me

I RANDOMLY FOUND PURPLE POWER SLUG LOL

my first one

[prisma thicket]

Love it when that happens 😄

[last jungle]

im on 1 hp cuz i accidentally fell lol

[static finch]

zi have 6 coal gens rn and im doin fine... 16 seems overkill. although it depends on what u got automated ig

[prisma thicket]

I had 48 up before moving to phase 3 lol

[last jungle]

my max power usage is like 165 mw or smth

im definitely adding more stuff so more coal gens that im gonna have to add

[static finch]

im phase 3 with 6, 3 are fully overclocked tho

[wanton lance]

do manifold system take time to ramp up?

[prisma thicket]

Yes

The larger the manifold the longer it takes to get up to full potential, unless you prime the machines.

[last jungle]

wait u can buy ammo im awesome shop???

[static finch]

priming them means manually filling btw

[last jungle]

truly awesome of a shop

[wanton lance]

how do I do this thing where I stack 3 spliters on top of each other then delte the bottom two so its the right distance for a lift

[prisma thicket]

Exactly like that, you just build the splitters on top of each other and then delete the bottom 2, the top one will hang in place.

You can also just go 2 splitters high and when you connect the lift to something else first then the splitter, it will squish the lift making a "mini-lift"

[wanton lance]

if when I connect something to the splitters and I dont see the foamy plastic part does that mean its clipping and wont work?

why do you ahve to do this anyway like make it snap

[prisma thicket]

If you don't see the foamy bit that's fine, it's inside the splitter, it will still work just fine. The way to check if it's connected is to try to attach a belt to the splitter or the lift, if you can't they are attached.

[abstract heron]

@dense violet my fuel plant is running at atm 508,000MW at best 512,000MW

[prisma thicket]

Sometimes I swear you're just trying to confuse people lol

[wanton lance]

see i swear i could not attack a belt but it still wasnt working idk

[last jungle]

dude ziplining is so fun

[swift kernel]

But you should give up on your dreams of becoming a baker

[hollow vector]

mew

[green fiber]

Pressure Conversion Cat

[latent prawn]

Shroedinger?

[latent prawn]

if you really want to have fun with it, roll the game back to update 7 when the zipline acceleration was much faster and we didn't have the power towers

[last jungle]

wait is there a reinforced plate recipe that doesnt use screws?

[midnight fog]

yes

[latent prawn]

two of the alts are screwless - one is plate + wire & the other is plate + rubber

[last jungle]

i really want that

[last jungle]

the plate + wire

[prisma thicket]

Stitched Iron Plate is what you're looking for

[latent prawn]

it is available very early on, keep hunting for hd's and it'll turn up for ya

[last jungle]

also i noticed if the power line doesnt clip through anything solid the zipline is really good for going up without ladders and such

for example my steel factory is on a cliff with my coal node so i use zipline cuz its connected to my main grid

[latent prawn]

before 1.0, stitched plate was one of the early 6 recipes, i'm not sure if 1.0 changed things so that it requires the part assembly milestone

[last jungle]

i have spelevator t1, im ok

[latent prawn]

yeah, it's great for north forest & the dune desert coastal cliffs

especially in north forest, the parachute is great for getting up cliffs

[prisma thicket]

I love that the parachute can let you scale sheer cliff walls if you hit them just right xD

[boreal musk]

the milestone is required to get stitched alt

theres only 3 available alt the the very beginning (no milestones and mam)

inventory slot, iron wire and cast screw

[latent prawn]

yeah, still really early

i kinda wish the early 6 were still the early 6

didn't mine nabbing iron & copper alloy before i had the foundry

[midnight fog]

yeah? but the assembler requires part assembly anyway

you wouldn't be able to use it

[prime crane]

hello dear people who also lose hair because of this game

[last jungle]

hello fellow "I'm new here, say hi!" badge wielder

[pearl walrus]

I was bald by choice before

[prime crane]

hello fellow who has the same badge as me but isn't dr. house

[prime crane]

counter attack. smart

[pearl walrus]

Becoming bald was the best thing I ever did

[last jungle]

what are ur hand slots guys

mine are basher, rebar gun, zipline or nobelisk detonator, paleberries

[prisma thicket]

Basher, Object Scanner, Zipline, Nobelisk Detonator, Bacon Agaric

Oh, and Coffee Cup

[pearl walrus]

250 miners😎

[latent prawn]

my standard layout is basher, rebar gun, rifle, zipline, inhaler & object scanner

incidentally, make inhalers from your stuff. its one bacon mushroom per inhaler and it heals your entire health bar

[prisma thicket]

Bacon agaric is better since it's instant and spammable, inhaler takes too long when you really need it lol

[latent prawn]

if you say so, i have a full dim depot of them pre-made

[prisma thicket]

I don't mean takes too long to make, I mean takes to long to use, the animation delay can often times get you killed.

[elder apex]

factory design preference question: do you prefer your raw inputs and overall outputs to be on the same side or even near each other, opposite sides, or just don't care?

[prisma thicket]

I don't care too much about my inputs, though I generally group them anyways just for ease of moving them. Outputs I generally prefer to be in the same area so I can route all overflow to a single awesome sink.

[last jungle]

wait how are u making inhalers from agarics?

[last jungle]

my recipe says beryl nuts

[prisma thicket]

There's I think 3-4 recipes for inhalers, in different sections of the MAM

[elder apex]

IIRC correctly there are several different recipes for inhalers

[last jungle]

ok ill just find out ig

[latent prawn]

most i make frome the berry+nut+mushroom recipe. when i have a surplus of other stuff like mycelia i handcraft a few to work down the stock

[last jungle]

ok

oh i found it

[latent prawn]

i find when i start building in a new area of the map, i just end up with a lot of stuff

[last jungle]

ok yea the nutrition path inhaler so good

[elder apex]

you should also realize that placing any limitations on what bacon can do is a losing path

[latent prawn]

if you end up in an area like the swamp or blue crater, you find a ton of mushrooms. places like the canyon, you can gather 200+ nuts in a few minutes and then there's berry patches around as well

in any event, the inhalers give 2x the health of the mushrooms, so may as well use them to get more health

on top of all of that, you can make unlimited inhalers from protein + nuts once sink points become worthless

[last jungle]

about what is the spawn interval of enemies?

[latent prawn]

iirc, it is something like 3 day/night cycles

[last jungle]

iirc means if i remember correctly?

also thx

[rapid wren]

curved belts are so fucking cool

so weird to see

[jade glade]

why cant I load materials into a tractor?

I have displayed message 'press f to load' but when I press it nothing happens

it feels like it is random if it loads or if it doesnt

[prisma thicket]

Is the truck station powered? and does it have anything in it's loading bay?

[jade glade]

the station is connected, set to load and it has materials in loading bay

[prisma thicket]

Hmmmm that is really weird then. Is the tractor's storage empty?

[jade glade]

yeah

[prisma thicket]

Hmmmm not really sure what it might be then, those are the common issues I know of.

[jade glade]

I managed to load it, but it still feels pretty random

[leaden turret]

@void gorge when asked about 1.2 "I can do what I want about releasing news updates, they won't fire me"

Mikael when asked about console preorders "I will skip this one"

not a "who knows", I deliberate "I don't want to get fired" 😛

[peak harness]

Did you know

that if you play for 600 hours and for 3 hour a day

you can play the game forever?

[pearl walrus]

Deqd internet theory is no monger a theory

[gritty shoal]

is there a tool that shows me how much of something i can produce

like if i put in 360 crude oil and select fuel as the output
i want it to maximize fuel production using those 360 crude

[peak harness]

nah i just like to say it like that

im not dead,

[pearl walrus]

SF tools

[pearl walrus]

Whats the derivative of
f(x) = (2x^4+3)*e^3x

[peak harness]

Idk

I got an e in add math

BUt A in math

[pearl walrus]

Oh ok so you are indeed real

You just really ate lead

[peak harness]

And also I only understand in malay

[latent prawn]

(4x^3)e^3x + (2x^4+3)3e^3x ?

[latent prawn]

satisfactorytools.com will calculate such things for you, but for oil, it is pretty easy - max you can make out of oil is 3x the plastic or rubber as you put in

[pearl walrus]

Yippie, -2 points for not factoring out the e

[latent prawn]

you didn't ask for simplification. that costs extra

i honestly just used the basic product rule for composite functions and stopped at that

[leaden turret]

simplify all numbers to R

[latent prawn]

and actually forgot to multiply the 2 by 4

[latent prawn]

well, if we're being cheeky, the answer is 'f prime'

[prime crane]

i think im gonna cry

[pearl walrus]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[prime crane]

i think i spent around 15 hours trying to make my fuel generators work

i need a tutorial cuz nothing is working

[leaden turret]

did you plug them in?

[pearl walrus]

Smartass🤙

Lol

[leaden turret]

people legit forget to plug them in sometimes, not knowing that generators can't generate without being connected to something

[prime crane]

no i didn't even start the game

i didn't even buy the game💔

i don't even have a pc🥀

[leaden turret]

next you'll be telling us you don't exist

[pearl walrus]

I was gonna say maybe get the game befire

[prime crane]

the pipes are not working

not enough fuel is going thro

[leaden turret]

plumbing manual pinned in #math-and-meta

see also "package all the things, problem solved"

[pearl walrus]

No

[green fiber]

Perhaps youre trying too push too much through them is all

[pearl walrus]

If my objective is to make power i am not spending more power to solve trivial problems

[leaden turret]

I wonder if they should've made mk.2 pipes square, so people wouldn't try to put square peg into round hole

"to find big bugs you have to @grave burrow your way to them"

😆

[prime crane]

probably. ill just watch a yt tutorial. im wasting too much time

[green fiber]

No tutorial needed. Just give us some info

Something more interactive than a tutorial can usually help resolve any problems you might have cause of unanswered questions

[prime crane]

the whole thing is cursed 😭 and also i took a 5 months break and i have no idea what i was trying to make or what problems i had to fix

so ill just del all and redo

[green fiber]

Make your mind up about numbers first and write them down

And also, find ways to break whatever big plan you have down into smaller "groups"

Big groups of machines, especially when fluids are involved, arent ideal or easy to work with

So what if it will need a few extra pipelines?

Worth it over troubleshooting a big complex piece of crap that doesnt work

[prime crane]

yeah. i do think all the pipes are messed up

[green fiber]

Keep em as simple as possible. Dont try to squeeze every last bit of possible flow out of a pipe. At some point you need another one anyway

[prime crane]

and how should i kickstart everything?

[pearl walrus]

Priority switches and coal

[prime crane]

god damn i removed my goal gens

[pearl walrus]

Rebuild them, i had to as well before i went nuclear🤙

[prime crane]

satisfactory the type of game that makes you need a break from gaming with another game

[green fiber]

Why

Its power

[pearl walrus]

Thats called burnout

[green fiber]

Undoing a lot of your own work does feel like something that would lead to burnout

And also tackling things in too big of a chunk at a time

[last jungle]

i just learned that a dna capsule gives 1000 points in the awesome sink

thats so op

[prisma thicket]

The cost of coupons is also different when using DNA points, and goes up differently.

[last jungle]

5 capsules total got me 4 coupons

these were my first used

[wide cedar]

hello

are you not suposed to make your entire floor of foundation solid down to the ground?

[prisma thicket]

You can do it that way if you want to, why do you ask?

[last jungle]

is there a pipeline merger kinda like a conveyor merger?

[prisma thicket]

Pipeline junctions are both splitter and merger for pipes

[last jungle]

wat

[wide cedar]

i was just informed that this is unnecessary because hostile mobs wouldn't spawn under a floating platform, it wouldnt fall, and also apparently making hundreds of these in a solid cube is bad for fps

[leaden turret]

instanced rendering = gpu don't care

[last jungle]

how do i make a junction a merger?

[prisma thicket]

It's true it won't fall, you can have giant platforms floating freely in the sky. The mobs not spawning underneath will happen if you have powered buildings on top of the platform. The solid cube causing FPS loss I know nothing about, but it sounds like it could be a thing.

[stable wedge]

It already is

[last jungle]

i have one as a splitter

[stable wedge]

If you dont want backflow put valves on otherwise do nothing

[old yarrow]

How do I upgrade to 1.1 experimental?

[prisma thicket]

Same as how you use it as a splitter, put it down and attach pipes to it.

[last jungle]

ok

[prisma thicket]

Are you on Steam?

[old yarrow]

yea

[stable wedge]

The junction essentially merges and splits at the same time imagine it just connects all the pipes into one big pipe

[wide cedar]

well okay so basically im kms because i wasted 2 hours making a solid concrete cube

[prisma thicket]

Go into Properties for Satisfactory, go to the Betas tab, and opt into Experimental.

[old yarrow]

aight thanks

can i downgrade if i want to?

[last jungle]

on the bright side, you have a lot of concrete now

[prisma thicket]

Well, it's not like you can't remove it if you want, and you can also just choose not to do that next time 😅

[wide cedar]

😭 it is going to take ages walking back and forth to put it all into contaainers

*running

[last jungle]

how big is it

[wide cedar]

uh

i didnt really count

[last jungle]

just really big?

[prisma thicket]

I know there is a way to do it, but I'm not sure how. You probably don't need to though, since 1.1 is coming to stable on June 10th, like a week and a half from now.

[old yarrow]

Oh alr

[wide cedar]

here ;-; #screenshots message

[stable wedge]

good luck 🙏

[wide cedar]

i made a tractor but running is literally faster than driving that piece of junk

[last jungle]

that over-over-over-over-overkill bro

[prisma thicket]

That's not too bad, and it looks good, so you might as well leave it as is.

[last jungle]

also did anyone notice that the ficsit foundation has a gap inbetween

other ficsit foundations

[stable wedge]

wdym?

omfg it does

i never noticed that

[last jungle]

#screenshots its not that big of a deal but its funny

[last jackal]

Sure.
Did you also know handcrafting is faster than using anything else?

Obviously it is slower.

[wide cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334323

really?

wait what

🤨

[stable wedge]

tractors are for moving items not really great transport

[hard ivy]

They're not particularly good for that either

[stable wedge]

yeah fr

[wide cedar]

isnt that just conveyor belts

[last jackal]

Hand crafting is a lot faster than you think.

It's just that you will be dumb to handcraft everything.

[stable wedge]

i think i used them once realised they sucked and then moved on

[wide cedar]

also how do you get around faster 😭

[stable wedge]

Do you want spoilers for later on or do you want to discover it

[prisma thicket]

Tractors are good for early exploring since they make you immune to the poison gas and you can run over animals

[leaden turret]

🏭 🏃‍♀️ 🏭

[wide cedar]

what gif x2

[last jackal]

Since when did they make you immune to poison gas.

[stable wedge]

add a few more entrances so you can boost it

[prisma thicket]

While you are driving the tractor, you don't take damage from gas clouds. Try it

[last jackal]

It wasn't like that before. Huh.

I guess they added that as they made the gas pillars destructable.

[wide cedar]

thats not a spoiler I already have the thing as a selectable milestone but it requirs combining even more stuff 😭

[stable wedge]

nah theres more stuff that makes transport better

[last jackal]

Which.. is the point of the game?

[wide cedar]

maybe something is just wrong with me

[last jackal]

I'll say "eh" for that depending on your distance.

They can still process things faster than trains given semi short distance.

[hard ivy]

If you're crying at steel, I have some bad news for you

[last jungle]

how can i kill the black walking whale thing

[stable wedge]

gotta agree with that 💀 🙏

[last jungle]

i think i killed it

[stable wedge]

why would you??

[last jungle]

its annoying me all the time

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=bean AND glitch

[last jackal]

Trucks and Tractors will forever be hated for no reason.

[hard ivy]

Belts?

[wide cedar]

D:

[last jackal]

If you are fine with hundreds of kilometers with belts. Sure. Have fun. I'm not stopping you.

[hard ivy]

I'd rather have hundreds of kilometres of belts than hundreds of kilometres of truck routes. Belts are much faster to set up

[last jackal]

Well. Sure. I'm not stopping you lol?

[stable wedge]

Trains???

[last jackal]

I still will say trucks and tractors are still perfectly fine as they are and they are quite good at their niche.

Its blatently obvious that belts are the best at consistency.

[hard ivy]

They said "semi-short distances". I ain't building a train to move something 200m. The station is gonna take up half the distance lmao

[stable wedge]

oh ok

[leaden turret]

I once built a 300m long train station

[last jackal]

Oh this argument again regarding "trucks are broken" when I am using them perfectly fine but the person across the room is pissed that they don't work for them and hates that it works for someone else.

[leaden turret]

"trucks are broke"
why
"autopilot"
you mean that thing that requires user input?
"yes"
user broken, plz fix

[stable wedge]

I don't know any of the arguments about why trucks or tractors are bad I just can't be bothered setting up stuff to supply them with fuel

[last jackal]

Which... isn't my issue?

[last jungle]

i found smth about ziplines

if u spamclick in range of a power line u just "jump"

[last jackal]

It's not like somebody is pointing a gun to your face and forcing you to use the truck.

If you don't want to then don't.

[last jungle]

zipjump real

[lament vault]

what's a good amount of heavy modular frames/min for a start?

[hard ivy]

I don't use trucks solely because a belt is faster to set up. So I see no point in using them

[hard ivy]

0

[leaden turret]

somewhere greater than zero is a good start

[last jackal]

Trucks (and Tractors) have a niche and when that niche is there, they are perfectly capable. That's all I'm saying about them.

[pearl walrus]

They end up taking so much more work and refinement rather than just laying down belt bus bp's

[last jungle]

positivity ftw

[leaden turret]

less than infinity though, that might be too much

[stable wedge]

esentially the same as why i dont use them cause fuel lines take too long to setup when i can just spaghetti my way to victory

[prisma thicket]

One manufacturer worth of HMFs is usuall a good start. It also depends on your recipe.

[last jungle]

how do yall get on the spelevator

like a billion ladders?

[pearl walrus]

Hypertube launchers

[last jungle]

oh ok

[hard ivy]

Riding the freighter or HT launchers

[last jungle]

alr i dont know how to do either so ima pass on that one

[hard ivy]

If you're making HMFs, make sure you do not use screws anywhere in the chain. They're gonna make it expensive and a pain in the ass

[pearl walrus]

What, i use screws for MF and reinforced plates😭

[hard ivy]

My condolences

[wide cedar]

wait what

[last jungle]

alternate recipes can change that

[last jackal]

My personal earliest case for tractors in my current save was during setting up coal power at the grasslands water pond.

I didn't have any stable RIP production so mk2 belts were expensive. Using the truck station saved me a good chunk of time since I didn't have to pull 4 mk1 belts from the coal miners to the water.

[leaden turret]

modestly-sized factory tower should do it

[last jungle]

the only screwless recipe i have for the base recipe using screws is steel rotor

[timid rune]

Time to figure out whether I want to build the fuel rods manufacturers to the right or right above the encased cell manufacturers #screenshots message

[wide cedar]

okay uhhh is it bad that i have 4 smelters and two of them go to four constructors making purely iron rods and their output merges (twice) into one belt that gose into two containers and thats it?

[last jungle]

and now my reinforced plate assembler is magically working on 100%

[stable wedge]

over clocked or no?

[wide cedar]

considering I don't know what that is probably not

[pearl walrus]

Stitched iron plate and what mf recipie?

[timid rune]

This takes only 168 manufacturers... which isn't too bad

[stable wedge]

idk what the rates are off the top of my head but no its probably not good

[last jungle]

it allows u to make ur machines faster or slower

[hard ivy]

Iron pipe + steel frame or steel rod + default frame. Depends whether you want to use coal or not.

[last jungle]

overclocking and underclocking respectively

[wide cedar]

its uh 15 = 15 a minute

[pearl walrus]

I see i have plenty of steel, ill considee that

[stable wedge]

wait nvm its fine if youre merging them right cause you got 60 ingots a min smelting and 60 ingots a min being turned to rods

[timid rune]

my HMF factory uses more coa ore /min than Iron ore/min hah

[wide cedar]

ye and theyre all going on one conveyor belt

(whats an hmf)

[stable wedge]

send a ss?

[timid rune]

Heavy Modular Frame

[stable wedge]

dont worry about it

[timid rune]

my HMF eats 2540 coal/min + 2068 iron/min

[hard ivy]

It's not that difficult if you go all in on steel recipes. Done that myself in the past. Now I do no coal lol

[last jungle]

what spelevator part do i automate second (smart plating already automated), framework or wiring?

[timid rune]

well.... I also use pure iron ingot

[last jungle]

im on phase 2

[timid rune]

so... that kinda explains it lol

[hard ivy]

I automate none of them

[last jungle]

wat

[timid rune]

you need so little of them to progess

it is kinda not worth automating

[last jungle]

does 1000 seem like little

if it does i should really step up my factory

[hard ivy]

The elevator asks for 1k or less of each. I just build one machine, overclock and sloop it, handfeed it items and the phase is done in a few hours

[timid rune]

Do I want to build above my encased uranium cell factory for fuel cells

or.... right next to it hmmm

[wide cedar]

here go #screenshots message

[hard ivy]

Like that's my phase 3 "factory"
#screenshots message
And phase 4
https://imgur.com/a/m0jD6qN

[stable wedge]

Yeah nothing will move when ur storage is full

[stable wedge]

and tbh where ur at in the game having a ultra optimised load balanced factory doesn't matter

[lament vault]

finally unlocked trains! so like how to use them effectively?

[timid rune]

maximise trains(by extensions) on a track per hr with minimal flat junctions

[stable wedge]

Use two rails for a track so you can have multiple trains on one line

[hard ivy]

They're mostly a long-distance, large-volume transport method

[timid rune]

also reduce the amount of flat junctions or at-grade crossing

[lament vault]

so like a loop right?

[hard ivy]

Nah, flat junctions are perfectly fine

[clever pier]

yep one way loops are the easiest way to use trains

[stable wedge]

Yep pretty much have one line going one way and the other going the other way like you said in one big loop

[timid rune]

you can have some flat junctions but not at areas where it is too busy

[oblique aspen]

nothing wrong starting with flat functions and if any one is particularly busy and causing congestion you can upgrade it

[clever pier]

with lots of block signals then you can run as many trains as you want on the loop

[timid rune]

but yeah

[stable wedge]

• keep the directions consitent across all ur lines to avoid headaches later when trying to join them

[hard ivy]

Nah, just keep it small, signal it properly and it's fine

[clever pier]

i avoid junctions altogether, my different loops go under or over each other

[last jackal]

Skill issue.

[clever pier]

i don't know if trucks are bugged or not but when I tried to use them I found that clearing a path of rocks and trees and recording the route took longer than just building a train line

[last jackal]

Yeah, it is when I'm using them perfectly fine but you can't for some reason.

[timid rune]

hopefully I get my first nuclear plants online tonight

[last jungle]

should i change the conveyor of my magically 100% efficient reinforced plate assembler

[last jackal]

"Someone else can make it work but I can't. So clearly the game is bugged."

[clever pier]

trucks also need fuel while trains just connect to your existing power grid

[last jackal]

On the flip side, trucks use about 1/20 of the power of trains.

[clever pier]

so sure, they work but I find them to be more hassle to use than they are worth

[last jackal]

They are tools, If you don't want to use the tool then just don't use it. Idk why this is such a hard concept to grasp and people just can't help but comment all the "bad" things about trucks.

[hard ivy]

A tractor used 55MW. That's half of a locomotive's max consumption. Which it only uses when accelerating. Not to mention that 1 locomotive can easily pull 4 wagons - 128 stacks of items, while a single truck moves 25

[peak harness]

Guys

[last jackal]

Then just use belts ig. Costs 0 power for infinite distance.

[peak harness]

I cant wait to adte the giant waliking whale in 1.1 update

What do you think their preference is?

Im scared, i need to give good first impression in the date

[last jackal]

Now saying trucks don't work is half a meme so it is how it is. But saying Trains don't work is like saying you just massively suck and can't figure out the dumbest things. 🤣

[prisma thicket]

I thought you hated this game, why are you still here?

[hard ivy]

Not my fault there are so many bad things to comment about

[stable wedge]

Guys can we just be peaceful and accept each other's transport preferences 🌹🔋

[clever pier]

trains don't work if you forget to connect the station to power

[last jackal]

I'm fine with whatever that's being used. but someone over there is saying not only trucks are bad, but trains are bad as well Which is a whole new level of stupidity.

[clever pier]

factory carts are the superior transport solution

[hard ivy]

1. skill issue
2. you're getting blocked because if you can't get trains to work and try to pretend they're bugged, you're just fucking dumb

[clever pier]

no fuel needed

just assign 100 factory carts to a truck route. problem solved

[last jackal]

Unironically, factor carts are great when you are moving them only within foundations and moving extremely low throughput items.

[leaden turret]

you mean you put one of the train stations the wrong way around?

[clever pier]

or they failed to put a locomotive at each end

[stable wedge]

That's probably what he did wrong there's like no other way to fuck trains up

[clever pier]

wrong

[stable wedge]

Wrong

[prisma thicket]

They've complained about trucks, trains, pipes and belts, just ignore them and move on

[clever pier]

stations can be rotated

the train has to enter the station facing the way of the curve at the front of the train station

[leaden turret]

train stations have a front and a back.

"train station unreachable" is when autopilot can't find a way to drive in from the back, because the user put the train station down wrong.

[stable wedge]

There's a little green arrow facing the direction of the station that has to be in the direction of the train otherwise you can't setup autopilot

[clever pier]

they really should document this better in a tutorial

when you unlock trains

it stilll matters.... autodrive trains can only enter the station from the back

[last jackal]

(Most) Humans are capable of learning from trial and error by themselves though.

Though rail signals, that's a different can of worms so.

[clever pier]

for a single track with one train that goes back and forth you need (station A ----- station B) and a locomotive on each end

the ( indicates which way the station is facing

[hard ivy]

Nah, I learned signals in ~4 hours of trial and error. No tutorials, not even looking at the wiki

[last jackal]

Good for you indeed.

[hard ivy]

Like you said. Humans are capable of learning through trial and error. Yes, even satisfactory signals

[last jackal]

Yeah. Good for you indeed.

[leaden turret]

see previous "no you don't" blurbs in conversation

[prisma thicket]

Again, @coarse geode has consistently complained about trucks, trains, pipes and belts, they seem to hate this game yet refuse to leave, we're all just better off ignoring them and moving on.

[green fiber]

Theyve done this before a few weeks ago

They dont want help

[prisma thicket]

They did it just a few days ago, that's when I ignored them.

[last jackal]

I definitely think I saw that happening before.

[pearl walrus]

Stupid german

[hard ivy]

This is like the third time and I've been active on here for less than a month

[green fiber]

Ey watch it with the accusations

[prisma thicket]

me or them?

[pearl walrus]

Them

[clever pier]

in theory you could finish the game by hand feeding machines

[pearl walrus]

Are you german??😂😂

[prisma thicket]

No, hence why I'm asking lol

[pearl walrus]

187 is a rap group in germany whose listers arent really the brightest lights of the country if i may say so hence i thiught hes germab

[prisma thicket]

Ahhhhh ok. I had no idea such a group existed lol

[spark ruin]

man, i just think he is mentally ill

i feel bad for him at this point

[green fiber]

If we go on more about them the mods will get involved.
Better back to factory stuff

[spark ruin]

yeah,

lets drop it

[lament vault]

why do sometimes my map markers turn green?

[pearl walrus]

Lol asled myself the same question

[green fiber]

Vegan map marker

[misty monolith]

if being bad at satisfactory has taught me anything it is patience

[clever pier]

if you got to coal and rage quit because you couldn't work out pipes... that would make you bad at satisfactory

i'm sure no one has ever done that 🙂

[pearl walrus]

Out of all my pipework my aluminum works best lol

Have you done diluted fuel into recycling cycle?

[jade glade]

can I make truck to have multiple stops?

[pearl walrus]

Lol just put an overflow sink somewhere

[hard ivy]

Some setups can deal with it just fine. If not, just sink

[green fiber]

Sure, just drive it under different stations

If a truck is driven under a station, it will dock at it (if automated)

[jade glade]

can I make it not to dock, only to refuel?

[green fiber]

Don't give it an items then, only fuel

You cant prevent a station from giving a truck items or taking them out of it unless it is empty to begin with

[dim field]

wich super computer recepie u guys prefer ?

[robust nymph]

Crystal or cat depending on what I’m making and where I’m making it

[boreal musk]

i prefer the base one for mass produce

oc supercomputer to save space

[wide cedar]

why would a water pipe with 25 ish amount in it attatched to a coal power generator not be filling it

[boreal musk]

coal gen water intake is 45/min

[green fiber]

Depends, is the pipe vertical in any way

[wide cedar]

it ges up an incline

[green fiber]

Then it needs to be full

[wide cedar]

it was working completely fine for the last 10 minutes tho

[boreal musk]

check your water extractor

[green fiber]

Well guess whatever you have isnt actually stable in the long run. Probably all a bit too high. Might require a pump.

Either that or you are exceeding pipe flow rate capacity

[boreal musk]

are they full

did you try to do more than 300/min in 1 mk1 pipe?

cuz this is common issue for ppl

[wide cedar]

oh the flow rate was like 2

can i put a second extractor into the same pipe

[boreal musk]

do another pipe on the other end

[hard ivy]

Default or super-state. OC is ridiculously expensive

[gray sedge]

I have not seen any changes in the game with update 1.0. Where are these new buildings?

[clever pier]

what phase are you up to?

[wide cedar]

Does this mean make a second pipe along the first one

[clever pier]

the new buildings are end game

complete phase 4 and you get several new machines

[green fiber]

Depends. How mucb are you putting in already

[wide cedar]

The amount from one

[green fiber]

If you push in only 120, yeah you can do another extractor

[boreal musk]

im assuming youre transporting more than 300/min water in mk1 pipes, it wont work as the last few machine wont get enough water
so you want to add another pipe connected to the other end

[green fiber]

Go check how much that is

[wide cedar]

120m^3 water /minute

It also says something called head lift is 10m

[boreal musk]

is that for entire plant?

how much water youre producing rn?

[wide cedar]

The amount from one water extractor

[green fiber]

Means you can go up exaxtly 10m from the water extractor output. After that it will say "no" and refuse to pump water

[wide cedar]

attached to 4 coal things

[green fiber]

And then you need a pipeline pump

[wide cedar]

I have just made a second extractor and a second pipe

[green fiber]

Remember than one coal generators needs 45/min water

[boreal musk]

4 gens need 180/min water

[green fiber]

Compare 45 x 4 to 120

And you will see where the issue lies

[wide cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/fell-gif-11242683397767497522

[wide cedar]

Is there a measure thing or something

to see how much distance up from the start point this is

[green fiber]

Walls, foundations, beams...

They all got height and width in their description

Beams can be used as a measuring tape directly

[boreal musk]

share your setup in #math-and-meta or #1038092680493801533 for easier troubleshooting

so i can tell whats your issue is

[green fiber]

If your generators are 3 4m walls above the extractor pipe output : thats too much already

[wide cedar]

Interesting

Mfw the game which is a pun on satisfactory and factory is not satisfactory as I try and continuously fail to restart the electricity again because the electricity requires electricity