satisfactory

[last jungle]

bruh

alr locked out of mam for 10min

[waxen locust]

yea- and theres 118 on the map. thats 1180 minutes. divide that by 60, it takes almost 20hours to scan every harddrive

[last jungle]

bruh

[tall lantern]

which is fine, since it's not like you have to sit and watch the bar

[waxen locust]

yea- thats why. when I do harddrive stuff. I normally do it. while exploring.

[last jungle]

hey at least this background music vibing

wait the scan thing makes an audible noise

thats so cool

[waxen locust]

ye- almost everyhting does

[last jungle]

do yall use catwalks or walkways?

[marble dew]

morn people

[waxen locust]

I personally use catwalks. since the walkway straights can leave gaps in the railings

[last jungle]

does the gap matter much?

[void cliff]

idk why I'm starting a 1.1 experimental game now, lol...

[waxen locust]

visually. ye- I think physically, you can walk through the gaps

[last jungle]

not saying as a counter-argument just asking

i dont think u can

im tryna rn

[waxen locust]

oki doki- but ye. for visuals i prefer catwalks

[last jungle]

this is probably the most new-player-friendly community ever lol

[gaunt tulip]

Since @leaden turret posted it on Reddit, I added his post to the Community Highlights (on Reddit) and we will see where this goes. Keeping you informed.

[waxen locust]

it wasn't too great back when I joined- if you suggested something different, they would say everything they can to make you seem like an idiot-

it's gotten better though

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac also irregular reminder that we're still awaiting the traditional CM smile emote

[last jungle]

ok so how do i setup this foundry to make steel

i have a coal node near base

[waxen locust]

I don't think I can answer that question without comming across as possibly rude XD

sorry-

[last jungle]

be rude its ok

[dense violet]

same way as previous steps

[waxen locust]

you input coal in one input. and iron in the other. if you wanna make steel, you sstill gotta set the recipe-

[leaden turret]

CMs had to make an #announcements spray bottle post to the effect of "quit being an ass"

[dense violet]

manifold coal and iron into them. use 2 belts

[last jungle]

manifold is like a conveyor belt thing right?

[last jungle]

idk how to do it tho

[dense violet]

a line of conveyors with splitters feeding many machines, yes

[last jungle]

ohh

the catterpillar conveyor

[waxen locust]

I never saw that- but I remember back during update 3. I had made a discovery you can use, nobelisks to stop dieing to fall damage, aswell as using it to propel yourself through the air faster. and everyone just told me to use a jetpack. which was endgame interms of milestones. and i was only on steel XD

[dense violet]

#math-and-meta message

[prisma thicket]

🤦‍♂️ me when I just realized you can turn off the BASE recipes in satisfactory tools... the numbers are so much cleaners when it's only using 1 recipe to make a part instead of 2.

[leaden turret]

ah yes, the perrenial "git gud"

[last jungle]

oke

looks simple enough

[dense violet]

it's how you probably did your coal lines

[last jungle]

im just about to make my first one lol

[waxen locust]

yea- it made me stop talking about stuff here. because I could never suggest something interesting i found. without getting told to get to the endgame

[void gorge]

Heyo heyo, butting in here with an announcement, we'll talk about it more on the launch stream but for now:

After the immediate feedback about Squished Lifts since y'day's stream, we've decided to go ahead and keep 'em around! However, if you had Squished Lifts blueprints built in 1.0 live that you then brought into 1.1 EXP, these BPs should have broken on EXP (1.1 specific bug), and will keep being broken on 1.1 Live. This can be fixed by just rebuilding the blueprint on 1.1 Live

If you see people still talking about Squished Lifts, please spread the word that all's well

[waxen locust]

W devs ❤️

[leaden turret]

see this is what happens when I'm too busy with work to tune into the start of a stream.

wtf is squished lifts?

[waxen locust]

a lift that is shorter than the minimum. usually achieved by connecting it to two inputs close to eachother

[jaunty stone]

Some of the pictures in the screenshots look way better than I thought they would. Is that the base game or is that mods? If so..I need to get mods for once lol

[leaden turret]

quite a lot of the stuff featured in community highlights segments of the dev streams is unmodded

although you'd be hard-pressed to guess which

[waxen locust]

tags you in screenshots-

[leaden turret]

neckless lifts 👀

[spice patio]

Lifts with shorter than 2m middle section, which is the normal minimum.

[waxen locust]

y u p XD

[leaden turret]

I was thinking you meant elevators

[jaunty stone]

Yea that's fair. I know the game itself is amazing visually as it is, but some of the things in that screenshots channel really caught me

[leaden turret]

like you'd step in and come out chibi pioneer

[waxen locust]

omg- we need that now

hey mikeal. chibi pioneer when?

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> is chibi pioneer sufficiently adjacent to old-school overworld final fantasy art style to count as "within coffee stainer area of interest" ?

[void gorge]

ehehehe...

[waxen locust]

I'm not seeing a no-

[leaden turret]

april fools mode doesn't count

[waxen locust]

true.

omg- what about. a chibi pioneer easter egg mode. where you can make a save, after discovering the easter egg. and the whole save. you got to play as a chibi pioneer.

everything else still normal size XD

[leaden turret]

everything else?

what about chibi

[waxen locust]

nah- I want him taller XD like, so much taller he can kiss the moff

[vestal mica]

don't be lewd

[leaden turret]

kawachiphobia mode

[waxen locust]

I do hope they look into the Q&A post I made about changing how to handle blueprints in the game. not saying it can be done or needs to be done right now- But I would atleast like to be told if it's possible or not

[leaden turret]

?

[waxen locust]

I made a post on the Q&A site asking them to possibly change how to handle blueprints.

It'd involve saving blueprints to your ID folder. aswell as the world. And you get a secondary blueprints tab. that contains the blueprints on your ID,
This would allow you to have blueprints between worlds, that doesn't involve file management. aswell as let you use them in friends save, as the tab would be cliented. but it would also mean that the blueprints wont mix and get wierd by having them put in the save blueprint screen from the world save.

[leaden turret]

that would impact cloud syncing, and I really can't remember why blueprints don't cloud sync (it may be in the archive but I can't swear to it)

[void gorge]

Something something GDPR? I honestly have no clue either

[waxen locust]

gotcha- it would just be nice to not remake the same blueprint organisation and blueprints multiple times. especally since I've been playing with a friend recently, so I don't have access to managing the save. and they don't want to edit the files. so I got to rebuild my blueprints

[waxen locust]

I doubt GDPR has something to do with it? a totally not factory game (none of those exist besides this one) lets you have account based blueprints

[reef basin]

afaik the choice to not sync blueprints was intentional

[last jungle]

wait do dimensional depots have an output port?

[reef basin]

no

[waxen locust]

nope-

[last jungle]

ok

[leaden turret]

save file cloud sync snafu: bye bye gameplay, but all my blueprints are here
blueprint cloud sync snafu:

[waxen locust]

snafu? XD what? XD

[leaden turret]

cloud sync snafu = deletes shit it shouldn't

[waxen locust]

well. I'm not really talking about cloud syncing? I'm more just talking about having the blueprint tab persist between worlds. (granted- I have cloud sync turned off)

or atleast. a seperate blueprints tab. specificly for persistance

[leaden turret]

point being if it goes in the id folder it gets cloud synced, I think

[waxen locust]

But the blueprint will still be safe and sound in the world folder, where it is currently. You just get an extra folder, and extra tab. related to blueprints.

I'm not entitled to an answer mind you. I am just playing the game. I'm just curious XD

[leaden turret]

so you just want to have blueprints readily accessible between saves without impacting cloud sync?

wondering if the blueprint format serialises the game version it is compatible with

[waxen locust]

I doubt game version will matter? neither will mods. just make a catagory in the blueprints tab for mods. and one for experimental. that other game, that totally doesn't exist. works very similar?

Oh, and one other thing. a blueprint tab keybind. please?

we have one for the customizer-

[leaden turret]

would matter for people that edit blueprints when switching between release and experimental, blueprints management suddenly has gaps in

[waxen locust]

thats why you have a catagory for experimental. so you know those blueprints might not work. or just, have an identifier. like in the title when you make the blueprint

[wanton mist]

how do I remove something from the dimensional storage list?

[waxen locust]

as far as i know. you can't.

[wanton mist]

that's a bummer

[waxen locust]

I wish you could re-order it. so you could have it alphabetical. cause even if you pin them. they still use the same ordering, just will be moved to the top.

[wanton mist]

sorting options would be neat yea

alphabetical, numbers ascending/descending, last used by player etc

[last jungle]

why does that matter?

[waxen locust]

honestly suprises me they don't have it. they devs have alot of accessibility options and QoL in the game. that that was overlooked.

[wanton mist]

you'll see once you get there yourself 😄

[waxen locust]

well. lets say I automate nuclear nobelisks. which is end game. and upload it to the depot. I gotta scroll ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL the way down either my pinned. or the whole list. just to pull them out. cause equipment can't get ammo from the depot.

[vestal mica]

i have like 3 things pinned that i want to know how many i have. but otherwise, i just type the name of the thing i want

[wanton mist]

I mean I guess the searchbar compensates for it but still

[vestal mica]

it's not like i'm manually pulling stuff out of there very often

[waxen locust]

It's one of those things that isn't needed- but QoL for it. would be amazing.

I also hope they add the sommer sloop to the smart and programmable splitter. its like. the only thing missing XD

sorry- I'm talking about wanting alot of stuff-

[last jungle]

should i try getting rebar gun?

which the only thing i dont have too easily is rotors but i still have plenty

[waxen locust]

it's basically just a long range zapper. so no need to worry about getting in harms way and damaging ficsit property.

[last jungle]

ada human form

tahts not a bad thing

[waxen locust]

XD, you can also get different ammo in other trees that function differently. for example. quartz makes it into a shotgun

[last jungle]

yea i saw

explodion funny

[waxen locust]

very funny-

[last jungle]

wait does explosive rebar kill spore flowers?

[waxen locust]

if something explodes. it'll kill flowers and rocks

[last jungle]

I AM DEFINITELY REACHING FOR THAT

YES.

[waxen locust]

as you should XD

[last jungle]

as the founding fathers intended

[waxen locust]

one thing that hasn't made sense to me. is why does the parachute increase reach XD. i get the hoverpack. but why the parachute XD

[last jungle]

"you earned a microbreak" is so lightly toxic lol

[reef basin]

and if you load the game on a different experimental version?

[leaden turret]

qol for reducing errors when in motion?

[waxen locust]

it's experimental. expect it to break XD

[reef basin]

or a different stable version? or different modpack?

[waxen locust]

then you should be aware of what you're doing. if you're modding the game. you should be aware enough for that.

[hard ivy]

do it like factorio - local and global blueprints

[reef basin]

and if I'm just playing different stable version of the game?

[waxen locust]

thats what i was saying-

[scenic cradle]

I love her stuff, When she said other people had gotten coal power before this, I was like "I mean with how much I screw around, yea probably 😂

[waxen locust]

expect stuff to have changed. test your blueprints

[last jungle]

a world record speedrunner getting coal power fastest in the world seeing that:

[reef basin]

I'm talking about game code

not about player-testing the blueprints

[last jungle]

cheap ahh rebar gun

[waxen locust]

interms of game code- I'm assuming the items will either. dissapear if invalid. or use the updated code.

[last jungle]

gun

[reef basin]

well original answer didn't change 🤷 they intentionally didn't do the syncing, so I guess they have reasons for it

[last jungle]

should i ATTEMPT to automate iron rebar?

[waxen locust]

it should function like if you load the same world on a different version.

but yes. you are right.

[waxen locust]

its only a bit of rods. and you'll never need it in VAST amounts in a short amount of time. so I say so-

[last jungle]

i need to go rn

guess ill use the american toy later

also about how much rebar should i have on me

like a stack?

[waxen locust]

as much as you wanna take XD 1 stack. 4? its up to you XD

[last jungle]

i prob wanna take 1 stack of regular and 1 stack of stun

(i have an unusual amount of caterium)

[waxen locust]

yea- quickwire is very easy to amass

also. has anyone noticed that the alpha spitter a.i breaks if it catches airtime for a split second. which you can do by sliding next to hit. and hitting it upwards with the basher?

[last jungle]

i havent even done that lol

[lean venture]

Can somone tell me why I get an DirectX 11 Deprecation warning when re-enabling VSync (I recently disabled it when I had problems with my PC) in the video settings, despite having it set to DX 12 and having it enforced trough the launch argument ?

[waxen locust]

it's about a 70% chance of it happening. but they will just stand there and let you beat them.

[lean venture]

Is this just a bug ?

Hm, I get the DX11 warning even if I just change some texture settings ...

It also always wants me to restart the game for some reason ...

[waxen locust]

yea- I recently set mine to vulkan and it keeps warning me about vulkan when I apply any settings. even if i havn't changed it. as for the x11 when you're on 12. idk

[lean venture]

But I am not on DX11 and did not change it to it.

This seems like a weird glitch where it thinks I want to change to it, even tough I dont.

I just removed the -DX12 launch argument, and after an restart, it did switch to DX11 automatically ?
What is this ?

I am now trying to switch back to DX12 ,,,

Huh, it does not want to restart if I go back to DX12 ?

I will do it anyway, because that seems wrong too ...

I think my settings where glitched out somehow

[spark ruin]

you should probably make a #1038092680493801533 post

[lean venture]

Yeah, its fixed now, somehow ...

Except VSync does not want to stay on after an restart ...

Ok, but it is on when enabling it, so it does at least work.

Somehow the Settings in Satisfactory are the most buggy ones I know of xD
I don't remember when was the last time I did not have problems with them.

[prisma thicket]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=jOzk6hgQGJwuSFmEeNxS Looking at the water for the diluted fuel blender, tools wants me to use waste waster from the Aluminum refineries, do I just include the diluted fuel blender in the waste water system or should I separate it and send it water direct from an extractor?

[reef basin]

the routing of materials tools chooses is kinda random-ish, so it doesn't need to be followed exactly

as long as each node gets enough resources, it will work in any way

[prisma thicket]

Ok, I'll see what's easier to do when I have the rest of the fluid stuff set up. Thanks

[covert talon]

whats the smallest radius train track circle possible?

[last jungle]

i just got rebar gun and some decent ammo lets test it out

bro where are all the spitters

[fresh wharf]

Hey, is it really worth it to put the game on max graphics? I've played on minimal and medium and they don't really have a big difference other than trees and stuff etc loading in the distance

Really the only difference has been my pc screaming at me through heating up my room to 500°

[leaden turret]

fancy smancy photos

[pearl walrus]

Crazy take???? The game looks like your building with legos when youre playibg on low

[leaden turret]

gameplay, high-fidelity 🏃‍♀️

[last jungle]

stun or regular rebar

i mean a funny combo would be stun + explosive or shatter

[fresh wharf]

Rifle

[last jungle]

i dont have rifle but working towards it

[fresh wharf]

I will play on ultra from now on and if the train animations are still bad I will find you

Wow what the fuck theres actually shadows now

This is beautiful

[last jungle]

35 rotors from a crash site with 2 hogs defending it

crazy

[wanton lance]

hey so If I put a mark 1 miner on normal iron and it mines 60 per minute and then the smelter only smelts 30 per min am I supposed to split the ore to go into 2 smelters?

[scenic cradle]

yes

[wanton lance]

so from each smelter should I have 2 consstructors?

[scenic cradle]

Depends on what your making, but sounds like your in the first stages, So yes

[last jungle]

1 constructor for 1 smelter is how i do it

[scenic cradle]

wait dont listen to me

[fresh wharf]

go find power slugs little one

[scenic cradle]

yea listen to them XD

[scenic cradle]

It should tell you when you select the recipe, itll say how many ore, or whatever item your using, per minute you need

[wanton lance]

I dont understand the per minute thing is it saying what the max is or what it is getting?

[last jungle]

power slugs are usually protected tho

[last jungle]

it says what its making/using i think

[scenic cradle]

the per minute is like if you give it this amount, itll work max effectiveness

wont waste any power, will use exactly what it says

[last jungle]

wait how many meters is a foundation

if i wanna make a cube for example

[hard ivy]

it's literally in the description

[scenic cradle]

Like with a smelter. If you give it 30 iron ore per minute, it will constanly run at I think 15-20 MW per second, I can't rememeber the exact amount

[last jungle]

not height, width/length

[hard ivy]

it's literally in the description

[last jungle]

oh shit im dumb

[cursive jolt]

Hi guys, any updates on ps5 version? It has been a while

[hard ivy]

a smelter pulls 4 MW normally (4 MJ per second, not 4 MW per second)

[scenic cradle]

DAMN I was way off XD

And really I coulda swore it said MW

huh

[hard ivy]

It says MW. But not MW per second

[thick vine]

mw is like mph. mph per second would be acceleration.

[scenic cradle]

No I know that, I was just putting the per second for reference. But yea I see my mistake

[last jungle]

wait do stingers in caves respawn?

[hard ivy]

yes

enemies respawn

[scenic cradle]

yes and I hate it XD

[last jungle]

then where is the stinger near my coal node

or did i block him with a miner

[hard ivy]

unless you build a factory, then they don't near the factory

[last jungle]

does one miner count as a factory?

[scenic cradle]

I don't think they can spawn close to built things

[hard ivy]

if it's powered and running, maybe

[last jungle]

bcuz he could spawn when i had portable miners

[hard ivy]

if it's not connected to power at all, no

[last jungle]

so i assume his spawnpoint is blocked

[scenic cradle]

most likely

I'd assume theres either a cube, or dome, around buildings that stop spawns

[fresh wharf]

I think that's just the hub

[scenic cradle]

Really? I've never had mobs respawn when i built RIGHT next to where they were originally, so I just assumed

[last jungle]

wait does stun rebar or regular rebar do more dmg?

[scenic cradle]

regular

[last jungle]

ok

[scenic cradle]

If i remember correct

should say on the thing, be like a damage bar, and one will be higher

[last jungle]

i still love shooting a spitter with stun and then beating the shit out of it with a xeno-basher

[scenic cradle]

Like with the zapper or basher

[last jungle]

yea the infobox says regular does about 2x more

good to know

[scenic cradle]

makes sense

stuns to stun XD

[last jungle]

lol

[scenic cradle]

not kill

[last jungle]

also why does explosive rebar do more dmg

is it like more expensive or smth

yea id say thats expensive enough

[fresh wharf]

Is the world some kind of organism? I swimmed far out and underwater the sand looked like flesh

[clever pier]

that would explain the arching rocks that looks like rib cages

i wonder how many times phase 6 has been completed in total by all the players

it would be cool if satisfactory had a screen likethe galaxy screen in dyson sphere project thats shows stats like total energy produced by all players, total items per minute production, elevator parts per minute etc

[scenic cradle]

That would be cool as hell, It'd be awesome if they could do 2 serarate ones, before 1.0 and after, although that would probably be very difficult

[pearl walrus]

Theres a 6th phase?

[scenic cradle]

OHHH buddy

[clever pier]

i meant phase 5

[pearl walrus]

Maybe this conversation for #story-spoilers, cause I didnt even know and hence been spoiled

[lime ermine]

I don't think there is a phase 6

[clever pier]

there is no phase 6

[lime ermine]

At 5 I have all tiers unlocked

[clever pier]

|| there is tier 9 technology but no phase six ||

[pearl walrus]

Okay

[scenic cradle]

I've wondered, How do you do that thing where you have to click to show the "spoiler"? I'm bad with discord XD

[clever pier]

two of these on each side |

[scenic cradle]

|this|

[clever pier]

|| this is a spoiler ||

need two of them red dragon

[scenic cradle]

OH

im dumb i read it wrong

||this||

[lime ermine]

Yup

[scenic cradle]

thats so cool

sorry XD, thanks

[gaunt tulip]

I posted this on the Official Reddit to as you asked "to spread the word that all's well.". Keeping you informed.

[clever pier]

damn one blender can make enough rocket fuel for 21 fuel gens, without overclocking

if you have enough turbofuel going in

who needs nuclear power?

I honestly thing they should patch it to double the power output of nuclear, plutonium and fisconium to make them more appealing

[hard ivy]

1 blender can make enough fuel for 36 gens with everything at 100%

[hard ivy]

I've done the math and double is not enough

[clever pier]

with overclocking the blender?

[latent prawn]

i tend to agree that some sort of balance shift there would be good. i would lean on reducing rf's yield however

my general feel is that nuclear & ion fuel make too little power and rocket fuel makes too much

[hard ivy]

... 2.5 times more?

[deft axle]

Good to hear!

[clever pier]

does anyone ever use ionised fuel? the recipe seems too expensive even with synthetic power shards

[latent prawn]

i'm toying with the idea of using it and have done some prototyping

[hard ivy]

Ionized fuel is even worse. It needs to give 2-3 times more power for calculators to prefer it WP-wise, and considering its complexity, it shouldn't be just barely cheaper

[pearl walrus]

Groundhog day🥳🥳🥳

[latent prawn]

it barely makes any extra power

[hard ivy]

It makes negative power, actually, if you consider the opportunity cost of burning the rocket fuel it consumes

[clever pier]

iis it like amazing in the jet pack ?

[latent prawn]

where ion fuel actually is useful is that making power shards en-masse gives off a dmr surplus

[clever pier]

otherwise theres no use for it

[latent prawn]

ion fuel is very nice in the jetpack

[mortal ginkgo]

I think it is a "sink fuel" type of thing just as the ||ficsit boi||

[clever pier]

it does give drones the fastest speed

tied with plutonium rods

I guess thats one reason to make it

[latent prawn]

the speed buf from the fuel for drones really isn't very compelling. if you're making it already, the buf is nice, but it isn't a reason to really make ion fuel

[clever pier]

unfortunately || it doesn't seem like any of this is rebalanced in 1.1 unless they are leaving it for a last minute change ||

[latent prawn]

i'd like to think they may do a small rebalance of t9 stuff, not for 1.1, but sometime after looking at what people are building to reduce homogeneity and increase replayability

[hard ivy]

I'm making a rebalance mod and I'm planning to release it once mods work in 1.1

[pearl walrus]

🥳 🥳

[clever pier]

another thing to increase end game longevity would be to have challenges to unlock optional cosmetics that change on a weekly basis

[hard ivy]

And there are other rebalance mods already, I just disagree with what they do

[clever pier]

like produce 50GW power, or produce 10 pasta per minute

[latent prawn]

i think adding about 50 sommersloops to the map would go a long way

[pearl walrus]

So cheap uncreative insentives to keep dead games alive like in every other rotten epic games game?

[clever pier]

and then an online score board showing people that beat the challenge by the largest amount

[clever pier]

no one would force you to take part

some people like end game challenges some don't

how many sommersloops are on the map right now?

[prisma thicket]

106

[pearl walrus]

The whole games point is to set goals to yourself. The game gives you little goals to achieve but the way you do it is up to you. The "end game" is to set your own goals and to have fun with what you learnt through the goals the game set you

[clever pier]

you don't think 106 is enough? you could build 8 alien power enhancers and still have 26 for slooping end game parts

[hard ivy]

103 left after MAM research

[clever pier]

again thats fine, but optional end game goals wouldn't take anything away from you.... and I didn't mean only doing that, other additions as well

[latent prawn]

the thing is that if you'r going for big goals, the resources on map (especially bauxite and consequently sam as well) become very limited and it makes building what you'd like to build more of a game of sitting in spreadsheets bookkeeping than just creatively building big

[rotund sable]

help i have resolution issues

[leaden ether]

THat's what mods are for. THere is a mod to just generate any ore from a machine at any rate you want. No need for such things in the base. THere are a lot of other fixes to the base that can yet be made (many in 1.1 thankfully)

[clever pier]

oh right.... but even without mods you can turn off build costs and fuel to have a "creative mode"

[hard ivy]

Bauxite was an issue even before 1.0

Now you can convert for it, so it's fine, or rather it would've been if SAM wasn't even more limited

[clever pier]

adding them to the map is lots of work. they could gift you 50 somersloops and some extra mercer spheres for completing the final elavator parts

[hard ivy]

That doesn't really fit with their lore

I think it would be best if nobody felt like using them to double production is required to achieve their goals

[void gorge]

Bless!!

[clever pier]

end game spoiler || could be a final message from the mysterious voice that its a gift to you as they fly away with ADA. I always assumed they left together and leave you a copy of ADA ||

[leaden ether]

Heh adding sloops won't change anything though, people will just up their goals. There will always be a limit unless you mod in limitless resources.

[brisk inlet]

One coal gen on normal speed takes up 15/coal per minute right?

[clever pier]

no need for mods, advanced game settings effectively lets you have limitless resources doesn't it?

[pearl walrus]

Yeah sounds reasonable

[clever pier]

the limit is your frame rate dying from the factory size

[deft axle]

Hey I sent you a dm if you don’t mind checking it out!

[leaden ether]

There is that 😄

[pearl walrus]

Wait whuuut?

[clever pier]

ok not completely you can enable "no build cost", "no power" and new in 1.1 "no fuel needed" and only be limited by the number of nodes on the map

[pearl walrus]

Yeah so not really infitine nodes unfort😵‍💫

[clever pier]

which is effectively impossible to use them all on current computers without your frame rate dying

eh, in practical terms it is infinite

until your computer catches fire

[swift kernel]

Oh yeah, this save is going great. I've already unlocked all of Tier 5 and most of Tier 6

My prep work is paying off in spades

[clever pier]

i'm on my third playthrough and yeah tiers 5 and 6 seemed much easier this time

[rapid wren]

is it not possible to see the turnaround time for the train route?

[clever pier]

not in base game, maybe a mod for it?

[reef basin]

I mean you can't realistically run out of resources anyway

[rapid wren]

can only run out of throughput

[clever pier]

bauxite and uranium are the only resouces where you can realisticly use all of the nodes on the map

and sulphur sorry

I guess maybe you could use all the copper on the map turning it directly into copper powder and then into pasta

[pearl walrus]

Ill let you know when I do😎

[reef basin]

you won't, because your PC won't live to tell the tale

[pearl walrus]

Are we talking any resource here? Or like alltogether the entire map utilized

[hard ivy]

You can quite easily run out of SAM

[frail sleet]

You can realistically starve of a few resources, especially locally (but in extremes, globally), if building big without sufficient care

all resources is another matter, there is an ungodly amount of iron and limestone

[pearl walrus]

Were talking the entire map not locally

[reef basin]

I meant running out of most if not all resources, and meant having reasonable production (aka not just sinking ore)

[pearl walrus]

Ye Ig, the only things I could see myself run out of are bauxite sam and caterium rest should plenty available with pure recioies etc...

[clever pier]

if you went for max pasta per minute you'd run out of copper

[hard ivy]

Nobody but you is talking about using up all resources. SAM is the only issue because almost all resources can be converted for, but that costs SAM

[pearl walrus]

"If you utilised all resources youd run out of all resources"

[clever pier]

max pasta per minute is a realistic goal people have done. using all resources on the map is not

[reef basin]

I'm not talking about all either. I'm talking about reasonably using most resources

[pearl walrus]

Strawman paradise🏞

[hard ivy]

And we're mostly talking about SAM?

[pearl walrus]

Nah the convo began talking about all resources. Whatever not a problem till someone gets there

[hard ivy]

No, the convo actually started by talking about "especially sam and bauxite"

[pearl walrus]

...

[hard ivy]

That's the middle of the convo

[hard ivy]

^

[reef basin]

I was replying to a message from a person talking about using whole map

[pearl walrus]

Also, this question doesnt seem to have that much relevancy, since its always you me and greeny arguing. So even if we came to a conclusion, the conclusion would be relevant to 3 people. Lol

[surreal ingot]

What if I joined the argument

[pearl walrus]

4 people ig, what do you have to say Mr. Space😄

[hard ivy]

Eh, whatever. The main issue is still SAM, because that's the first thing you'll run out of if you try to max out endgame parts. "Most resources" is only relevant if you want to max out midgame stuff. And at that point you'll likely hit the limits of your computer first. With SAM, that'll happen way earlier on a decent gaming rig

[shut lava]

Ooh me too

[surreal ingot]

Uhhh…. I dunno I’ve never gotten past coal

[pearl walrus]

Sick

[pearl walrus]

why not

[clever pier]

technically you could finish all end game parts on coal

I think some youtubers have done it

[hard ivy]

You could do it on biomass

[reef basin]

there's enough SAM to do reasonable build for all the engame shit and still have leftover

[clever pier]

I mean really? could you actually feed them fast enough to power the end game particle reactors?

using liquid biofuel would help but I am skeptical you could feed it fast enough

ok if you allow power storage batteries then sure

[reef basin]

yes, clocked to 1%, easily

[reef basin]

you can't charge those with biomass

[clever pier]

jesus how many years real life would it take to make 1000 pasta using particle reactors clocked to 1 percent?

[reef basin]

you build 100 of them and it's equal in speed to one at 100%

[clever pier]

1 every 50 minutes ?

[reef basin]

but you save tons of power

[wanton lance]

how do you play the game on the desert level when theres no leaves and wood

[hard ivy]

77%-ish

[clever pier]

no it would be 1 every 200 minutes at 1 percent

[clever pier]

there is leaves and wood, just gotta find them. also its all one map, just different starting points

[wanton lance]

oh k thx

[latent prawn]

yeah, my sentiment is that altogether, without singling out any one resource (even though bauxite and sam are often the limits), i feel like the game would be more enjoyable if you could just decide that you want to build a max ficsonium plant or 60/min ballistic warp engines or whatever and not end up in a situation where you're pooring over the numbers to figure it all out

[clever pier]

eastern desert is my favorite start

[clever pier]

all they would have to do is add an option in Advanced Games Settings to change all nodes to pure

[latent prawn]

there's a lot of ways that it could be solved

[clever pier]

thats a lot less work than adding 50 new somersloops to the map

considering sloops tend to be in specially designed locations with items framing them in interesting ways

[latent prawn]

or maybe, as is done in a mod, provide a recipe for making new sommersloops

it isn't that i object to the little bit of resource scarcity or logistics challenge of bringing it all together, i just feel it is a little too limited and while possible to accomplish goals like i listed, a lot of grindy work and a ton of planning

[hard ivy]

With all the alts from my mod, the entire Uranium ore to Ficsonium chain costs seven percent of the SAM compared to what it does in vanilla per MW produced.

I wasn't planning to go anywhere near that low, but after I made what I thought were reasonable recipes, that's how low it ended up

It still costs 6-7k SAM to use up all the map's uranium and matrix all 10 augmenters

Which is much more reasonable compared to vanilla's 30k

[pearl walrus]

The question is, if matrixing 10 augmenters is reaslnable in the first place😵‍💫

[hard ivy]

Yes. They gave me 103 sloops. I can place 10 augmenters. I can matrix augmenters. Therefore, I should be able to matrix 10 augmenters

[hearty musk]

Belts are not producing 1200/min from miners. is this issue adressed in the 1.1 patch?

[covert talon]

any tips for making ellipsoids

[white linden]

I understood recently you can put mergers on an existing conveyer, how do I know it connected correctly? When I remove it, it seems the conveyer is still 1 piece?

#screenshots message

[scenic cradle]

stupid question, but I need other opinions. If you need say 80 limestone from a normal node, is it more efficient to use a mark 1 and overclock, or a mark 2 and underclock?

[white linden]

Would it be an option to build MK2 and overflow the extras to a sink?

[scenic cradle]

You good sir might just have a good point

you should buy it

its fun

[cyan garnet]

Sometimes doing this can leave a belt segment inside the merger. Better to place mergers and splitters first and then connect belts after

Ask steamdb to predict when it might be on sale next

They won’t announce it here

[white linden]

Ok, I can build the conveyor on top for of foundation, but I thought it would be nice to do it on the ceiling. Maybe I should go with some floorholes as normal.

[cyan garnet]

What do you mean by “more efficient” - in terms of power draw of the miner?

[scenic cradle]

I guess yea, tbh I really don't even know what I mean 😂

[cyan garnet]

There are some other build tricks to allow you to mount splitters and mergers to the ceiling

[white linden]

Aha, any recommendations with explainers, feel free to DM.

[cyan garnet]

Optionally, yes. It’s not a MMO but you can set up online servers to play w friends

Otherwise it’s single player

[scenic cradle]

could use a foundation in the middle, use nudge mode to get it exactly where you want the merger/splitter, place it, then destroy the foundation

[cyan garnet]

Use vertical nudge (available in 1.1, or with the infinite nudge mod in 1.0)

[scenic cradle]

ah i forgot vertical is only in the experimental

[dusky sun]

hello, i have to replace modded merger blocks (the one's that had input prioritization) with the vanilla ones that released some time ago. would take me hours by hand if i even find them all. any ides how i could edit the world file?

[white linden]

Interesting way to go, yes.

[cyan garnet]

Yes, joking about piracy of a game in the discord run by the studio that makes it sure is a choice

Bold strategy, cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them

[scenic cradle]

people are funny

and dumb sometimes

but thats the funny part

[white linden]

Managing a FB group for a game I like, the amount of blocks for questions about piracy are uncountable... really annoying.

[cyan garnet]

Might be able to do it in SCIM, depends on if it can handle modded items in the save file. This is probably a better question for the modding discord

[fossil ice]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @cyan garnet

[dusky sun]

thank you ❤️

[elder apex]

some items show up as a separate section called Mods at the bottom of the SCIM editor

[dusky sun]

oh didnt know what scim stand for but i already tried that 😦

[elder apex]

depends on the item

[lament vault]

what's a good way to deal with local fauna? having them around is hurting my efficiency

[waxen locust]

Coffeestain has asked me out twice already today. I think they getting desperate- XD

[iron patio]

Hello, i just got the game and id like to play with a friend. He plays on Epic and i have it on Steam. Can he join my sessions despite us not being on the same platform?

[waxen locust]

yes- just sign your game into epic

[spice patio]

Steam owner needs to login into Epic account ingame.
And then hoster needs to select Epic as the game type.

[iron patio]

how to i do that

[waxen locust]

online settings from the menu

[waxen locust]

then do what this dude said

[iron patio]

thank you guys!

[iron patio]

how do i invite my friend tho-

[waxen locust]

what you had to do before was send the session id. and they join that way. otherwise I think you can just join through the account?

[iron patio]

so if i set the game on public, i give him the id and he can just paste it in and join me?

[waxen locust]

if you get in the game. you can set your session type to epic. in the manage session tab. then you can find the session ID there

yea same XD

also- I feel like the term public is misleading. they should change it. since I don't think your session will appear for everyone who plays satisfactory XD

[lament vault]

am I supposed to just turn the heavy oil residue into petroleum coke if I have no use for fuel rn?

or can I just leave it in the refinery?

[hard ivy]

if you leave it in the refinery, it'll just stop working

[rapid wren]

alclad casing seems to me is one of the worst alternates

[hard ivy]

if you use alts, heavy oil residue will no longer be a byproduct but a desired product instead. and you'll be able to get several times more product out of your oil

[hard ivy]

I don't think I've ever not used it

[sullen gull]

Evening all

[rapid wren]

but why, hardly less aluminium, a lot more complex, only slightly more output, less output per space.

or equal in space

usually an alt either saves you a lot of material, or a lot of space

or, good alts**

[hard ivy]

11% less bauxite is good enough reason for me

[rapid wren]

lol

[hard ivy]

I'll be converting some copper to it anyway

[lament vault]

man I can't wait to unlock trains

[merry kettle]

It's basically a recipe that turns 6 copper ingots into 1 aluminum casing. Assuming pure copper ingots as the input, that's 2.4 copper ore per aluminum casing. The standard recipe costs 1.5 bauxite (making assumptions) per casing.

[surreal ingot]

Because everytime I get to coal I realize that I could have done something a different way and I didn’t wanna tear everything down and build up again so I just restart

[merry kettle]

Copper ore is way more common than aluminum, and also much considerably simpler to produce.

[lament vault]

which milestone is more important, fluid packaging or patroleum power?

[merry kettle]

Personally I'd say petroleum power, but it depends on how extensive your coal plant is

[pearl walrus]

Uhm.....

[cyan garnet]

Do you need more power right now? Or do you need packaged fuel for vehicles or jetpack?

[lament vault]

yeah, I'll probably go with power since I'm almost at limit

[swift kernel]

Packaging up 300 water canisters and throwing them in dimension storage and I have no real reason to but here we are

[pearl walrus]

Sick

[reef forge]

i think my oil production works, i just gotta fix storage

[sturdy mural]

guys i'm doing the 1 oil to 3 plastic loop thingy using recycled recipes, is there like a priority i need to set up at the loop of recycled plastic and rec rubber?

[hard ivy]

you should send the plastic to recycled rubber and the rubber to recycled plastic first, and only output the overflow

also, merging the residual rubber into the rubber line with priority is a good idea

[pearl walrus]

Wait do you just make two lines of refineries???

[hard ivy]

depends. as long as the total amount of rubber (and plastic) produced (not output) can all fit on one belt (each), yes

[pearl walrus]

Wait thats smart

[hard ivy]

if the total amount exceeds one belt, doing priority is a bit of an issue so it's best to split it into multiple systems that only share the oil supply, if even that

[pearl walrus]

Ill send something in screenshots in need your expertise on

[swift kernel]

Always be prepared

[pearl walrus]

The first input is 450 and with each line it doubles till it splits in my desired rubber < plastic needs. Would you have mad two line simply looping back?

[gusty quest]

yo'

[lament vault]

what is better for medium distance travel (~1km), Power towers with zipline or hypertubes?

[swift kernel]

Probably hypertubes, but I use zipline, because I can't be arsed to set up a hypertube network

[sullen gull]

I thought you were utilizing 'free time'? 😏

[rapid wren]

caterium cirtcuit board seems OP

unless you massively value caterium and 0-value plastic?

[swift kernel]

Oh, it's already over. Free time has come and gone. Now is the time of oil

'Murica

[surreal ingot]

Yes?

[reef basin]

I mean plastic is very cheap

[lunar lance]

I hate

[quick oak]

I play Calamity Mod through TModLoader, but I don't play vanilla anymore

If you're down to mod tho I'd be up to play

Are you on PC?

Let's go to DMs rq then

[swift kernel]

This is the first time I'm using valves and omg they make this process so much easier

[pearl walrus]

@hard ivy why does that splitter look so cool

[dense violet]

there's no mechanical difference. basically just looks

[dense violet]

depends entirely on your other needs and location honestly

you can cut out caterium recipes from your world significantly and use next to nothing, or go wild with it

[reef basin]

they are generally pointless and can cause issues, so I'd advice to be careful with them

[dense violet]

fluid systems tend to work despite the valves, not because of them

[pearl walrus]

Theway you did the fuel to refineries is cool, ill steal that. And also the fact how simple this is in comparison to mega builds. I think ill refrain from making wide lines, and build a bunch of these cute batteries instead @hard ivy

[hard ivy]

thankfully they're not as fucked up as they used to be. now only the flow display is inaccurate, not the actual flow

[swift kernel]

That's just cause y'all aren't as skilled at Satisfactory like I am /j

[sage wind]

I downloaded my world and uploaded it to a dedicated server and now I can't access any blueprints?? help

[pearl walrus]

I like them👍 I use em a lot

[swift kernel]

So like, don't tell me what it is if it exists, but is there an actual good use of fabric down the line?

[hard ivy]

like 2, but yes

[pearl walrus]

Automating filters ig

[swift kernel]

Yeah, I figured that one. But that's not exactly something I'm running out of frequently

[pearl walrus]

You will once you do nuclear

[lament vault]

can I have the input for manifolds anywhere and have the splitter split in 3 diffirent ways?

[hard ivy]

FYI, max filter consumption is 5/min

[pearl walrus]

I slooped mycelia fabric, filters and infused filters once, and I migt be good for a while

[pearl walrus]

Oh ye ill be good for the next 14 hours if I intended to stand right next to my nuclear storage😵‍💫

[lament vault]

oh god, I'm building and minding my on buisness and then a green cat just jumps me out of nowhere

luckily it fell down since I'm kinda high up

[dense violet]

blueprints are seperate files

[leaden turret]

reminder: some people want VR in Satisfactory

🥽

[pearl walrus]

El gato🦧

[lament vault]

oh god, imagine swamp in vr. I'm scared to go there even with cats on but vr with cats off, I would die of a heart attack

[leaden ether]

It is some great satisfaction when they try to jump you and fling themselves over the edge of a cliff.

[leaden turret]

and then you realise there are some cliffs they can jump back up

[pearl walrus]

Dear god I wanted to go to bed 90 minutes ago where did my time go😭😭😭
FICSIT GIVE IT BACK GNARGHHH

[leaden turret]

you should have gotten the hint that ficsit does not want you to sleep when you realised you can't use the beds in the hub

[pearl walrus]

[lament vault]

I really hope I can attach nukes to drones and have them drop them automatically when I unlock them

[white linden]

Nvm, I forgot you had to switch materials to see them all, new save.

[swift kernel]

I'm going to be able to disconnect my coal from the powerplant and pour it all into manufacturing. I'm pretty damn happy about this.

Steel Production is going to reach an all time high

[white linden]

Build restaurants in the old Coal factories, they will be sold in no time.

[swift kernel]

Also, I was accidentally sitting on the recipe for Encased Steel Pipes, so I'll be able to use mk belts efficiently in no time

[swift kernel]

Why restaurants? I feel like I'm missing the joke

[white linden]

In European cities, room is very sparse and a lot of Coal plants are phased out atm, due to the EU greendeal, while they are mostly near current city centres (old towns), so, they are converted a lot, since they are often also considered herritage buildings that give the city skyline a certain shape. Lots of them get converted in restaurants and / or small condo's.

[leaden turret]

restaurant in coal factory only serve coke 🥁

[split prairie]

is my game bugged or something or does the explorer acceleration is weird? why does it keep going up and down when it reaches top speed around 110km/h?

[swift kernel]

Ahhh! That makes sense

[gentle stream]

my pipes werent working right for my oil power setup (finally got it working) and the solution was to turn all of them on standby then wait for all the pipes to fill up man i hate pipes so much

[white linden]

Put a picture here, whit a big factory repurposed as a shopping mall, in my city.

#off-topic-media message

[broken thorn]

Chat how to squished lifts plz tutorial

🥺

[lime ermine]

Place a merger and a splitter on top of each other and collect them with a lift

[covert talon]

what yall think about my train track https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1377437076844449892/image.png?ex=6838f5be&is=6837a43e&hm=985372cf40d5cb2b60710c8fb23ec918a4e011e19b328223737f8b5e3f35a5e9&

[paper crag]

is there a way to tp to a friend?

[swift kernel]

Satisfactory

[gentle stream]

no you can walk tho

[static finch]

or use the explorer

[hard ivy]

Hypertube launcher. Almost as fast as teleporting

[wanton stag]

How do you mount lights to ceilings?

[static finch]

using the build gun most likely

[dense violet]

use the flat ones, click

[wanton stag]

i mean like to be facing the floor

i wanna use them as lights

[cyan garnet]

!wikisearch ceiling+light

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=ceiling+light

[dense violet]

yes, the ceiling lights will just snap to ceilings

[zenith pecan]

The size of the ceiling lights and how lighting in general seems to work is what caused me to convert billboards and glass foundations into light arrays.

[dense violet]

you're getting better effects wit hthe signs?

[zenith pecan]

Basically the same, just without wiring and I can embed the lighting into the ceiling, which the actual light arrays can't because the bloody things are 10x10, see for yourself here how my signs lighting works in the ceiling #satisfactory-experimental message

[surreal ingot]

One time I was setting up a massive coal power plant and the entire thing didn’t work because one pipe was like 0.001° too steep or something like that

[zenith pecan]

I also have ceiling, floor and combined variants of the light array, and I have plans in the near future to add other colour arrays to the collection.

[gentle stream]

Gotta add the pumps ig

[zenith pecan]

While I have it in mind I should get the other light bps done 😄

[surreal ingot]

Man I should try and make a decent factory tonight

[zenith pecan]

I'm sorting light array blueprints atm 😄

[formal minnow]

absolutely upsetting that I might have to run coal trucks to get steel

probably even more upsetting that I'm this tempted to give up on doing this world without scim just because of steel

[dense violet]

wdym 'without scim' and 'because of steel' ?

[wanton lance]

my factor is such a mess but I havnet unlocked coal yet once I get a coal power plant up should I just kind of scrap it all and put foundations down and try to do it more clean?

[sudden flint]

This game is awesome. It also has a level of difficulty with physical spacing that makes me lose motivation every time I open it (。_。)

[formal minnow]

played through the game a few times already, haven't gotten past like tier 6-7
every run before this has been while using scim and in the southern spawnpoint, I'm trying northern forest and without scim

[dense violet]

oh you just mean to find nodes?
you have a scanner

[wanton lance]

whats a scrim

[formal minnow]

I know, but it only picks up the nearest 6
I wanna find a spot with both coal and iron

[dense violet]

and either belt the coal to you or find coal next to iron. It's very common

[dense violet]

so ping coal, take some notes on direction and distance, ping iron. Compare

[sudden flint]

Y'all ever want to build pretty buildings but that takes tickets that you don't have but to get the tickets you need to make ugly buildings?

[sullen gull]

SCIM https://satisfactory-calculator.com/

[sudden flint]

[sullen gull]

Though, the IM refers to the Interactive Map portion.

[formal minnow]

nearest 6 are within 300m, nearest coal is 900+
all the 900+ nodes being picked up are in one spot; I've already gone there to set up power, there isn't a good iron node within belt distance

[sullen gull]

Belts can technically be made at an infinite distance.

[cyan garnet]

for northern forest spawn, there are a bunch of coal nodes surrounding a small lake in a crater directly to the east. when I did that as my spawn, I ran a truck route from those nodes back to the starter base where there are several pure iron nodes along with copper and limestone

[sullen gull]

and 300/900 isn't much in the 'grand scale'

[formal minnow]

within reasonable belt distance
keep in mind I'm barely pulling 30fps on near minimum graphics, my first world was very conveyor heavy and was genuinely unplayable

[sullen gull]

Was not aware, make sense though. Shame.

[cyan garnet]

using trucks for coal to make steel is absolutely a use case for them at this point in the game

you can fuel the trucks with the coal as well, easy peasy

[formal minnow]

big part is that I hate having to truck, cos the fuel is a pain to integrate into input/output calculations

[sullen gull]

I've been delivering beams and tubes to my 'starting area' with trucks this whole save heh

[cyan garnet]

do you have overclocking? or you could use two nodes, one for fuel the other for cargo

[wanton lance]

bro can someone explain why people build with this thing where the belt is coming from the miner and then extends into 4 spliterrs into 4 smelters?

[dense violet]

go near the coal and ping the iron 🙂

[formal minnow]

could probably do with some overclock ig
I'm always hesitant to overclock in general

[dense violet]

why barely takes any more power

[cyan garnet]

it's called a manifold

[sullen gull]

Spreading the love across the machines.

[cyan garnet]

!wikisearch manifold

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=manifold

[sullen gull]

Utilizing the max resources of the miner usually.

[wanton lance]

but how does the machine know that there is more splitters ahead idk

[cyan garnet]

read the wiki article about how manifolds work

[dense violet]

the first machines will fill up

[wanton lance]

bu thx leme read this

[formal minnow]

basically as long as your input rate is balanced well everything kinda handles itself

[cyan garnet]

tl;dr every machine has a one-stack buffer. when it's full, it won't take in any more resources which causes the belt to back up which will overflow resources down the line. eventually it will all balance out, assuming your belt speed can handle it and you've matched your total inputs to your total outputs

[wanton lance]

what does s and m mean in that diagram?

[cyan garnet]

e.g. 4 smelters would take in 120 ore, which means you need a miner producing 120/min and mk2 belts

[cyan garnet]

splitters and mergers

[sullen gull]

Splitter

[wanton lance]

whats the one with the SS work?

[cyan garnet]

smart splitter

[formal minnow]

I started the game absolutely obsessed with getting balancers working right, everyone either never cared to begin with or will give up eventually

[cyan garnet]

using overflow mechanics

you probably wont ever need to worry about injection manifolds. just a basic one will do for 99% of scenarios

[formal minnow]

is injection just for, like, when you don't have the conveyor rate to manage the full input amount

[zenith pecan]

Injection can also be for adding some sushi, but it is mostly a throughput thing, yes.

[cyan garnet]

if you are throughput limited, you can just as easily make two manifolds instead of trying to do injection

[wanton lance]

so once coal power is unlocked you dont have to do anything to get power like youd have to collect grass before?

[cyan garnet]

coal power is self-sustaining, yes

[zenith pecan]

Once setup no, coal is your first fully automated power.

[formal minnow]

it's fully automatic if that's what you mean
basically it's the point where you could afk without factories running out of power

[cyan garnet]

you need power for the coal miner and the water extractors, but coal generators make more than enough to power them, thus it can be self-sustaining

once it's been kick-started, that is

[wanton lance]

my factory is so ass but I think I will get coal power soon, should I bear with it until I can make a coal factory then wipe it all out?

[cyan garnet]

the map is huge. just go build somewhere new. the game rewards exploring

[wanton lance]

but how would I transport all my resoources

[cyan garnet]

build factories local to the nodes

[formal minnow]

trucks

[cyan garnet]

research dimensional depots in the MAM

unlock long-distance transportation logistics milestones (trucks, trains, drones)

[wanton lance]

I guess find someone with lots of ores and a water source?

[formal minnow]

water isn't too important for a base location, most of the stuff that will need water is gonna need you to travel to find them anyway

[cyan garnet]

for coal power you need coal+water close to each other. every biome starting area has one specific spot that's good for starting coal power by having coal+water near each other

you don't really need water for your main production lines until later in the game, specifically aluminum (phase 4) and some alt recipes like wet concrete

[last jackal]

You don't pick a spot and think what you can build from that place.

You pick what you want to build and pick a spot. The difference is important.

[wanton lance]

ye thats why I want water for coal

[formal minnow]

there's always a nearby spot with water and coal, go there
ping for coal and go to the clustered nodes

[zenith pecan]

@dense violet I finally expanded on the light array print, here's the collection 😄 #screenshots message

[abstract heron]

i love playing with fluids one of my pipes is not getting enough liquid

[latent prawn]

i like to use my brain when making pipes so that i avoid problems

[dense violet]

nice 😄

yes

[abstract heron]

i have 1 pump on a line of fuel and its not going to the last few machines what i should i do

[zenith pecan]

I forgot something important when I routed all the worlds bauxite 😄 , now I need to build a monster coking plant in the swamp to fix the oversight 🤣

[dense violet]

post some overhead images in #math-and-meta

[zenith pecan]

Cheat what?

[abstract heron]

added @dense violet

[zenith pecan]

Pipes aren't that hard 🤷‍♂️

[abstract heron]

i am only making 460,000MW out of 576,000MW with my 960 fuel gens of RF maxeek

[gritty sleet]

I saw in the 1.1 patch notes this - what does it mean?

"Railways have gotten some major improvements with their implementation, so they should be a lot nicer and better to build overall than ever"

[merry kettle]

The biggest thing I've noticed is that you can now rotate the endpoint, which allows more control over curvature?

[cyan garnet]

• control curvature of rail when building
• branch into and out of stations
• double-sided branching intersections
• signals for left-hand drive
• auto-connect blueprints can auto-connect rails

i feel like i'm forgetting something else, but all those bullet points for sure

[lavish sleet]

you can build more rail at any point on an existing rail (provided it’s not within 2m of one end) rather than having to place signals to split first

[gritty sleet]

Nice!!

[latent prawn]

the free end of a track snaps correctly to a foundation so you don't need to anchor it with a track section in order to get a clean turn. additionally, the minimum turn radius of tracks now allows 2 vs 3 foundation radius turns, you can now branch in and out of a junction and/or station

altogether, it makes track laying much more pleasant and reduces the footprint needed for a train station

1.1 adds a lot of little nice things that make building less grindy

i think my favorit is that splitters now snap to ceilings allowing easier raise belting

[gritty sleet]

That's all really cool. Wish I had all this when I was building out my train network before.

Reducing the turn radius is a game changer!

[merry kettle]

Wait what? I didn't notice that

[latent prawn]

its like the first thing i noticed, lol

i'm always running belts along ceilings, so that's probably why. used to have to lay out the splitters on the floor above and snap them under through the floor to get a mount point

[merry kettle]

You can snap them to the ends of belts, so I'd just put a ceiling conveyer mount, run a temporary belt to it, snap it into place, then remove the mount and belt.

[latent prawn]

ofc, vertical nudge now also can be used

[merry kettle]

Also that

[latent prawn]

yeah, the snap-to-end-of-belt works, but i find that harder to get the position correct

[merry kettle]

Yeeeaaah. There was one I had to place about a dozen times (tight awkward fit and I hate clipping). The multi-step process was super annoying

[latent prawn]

any which way, just pointing at the roof is a lot less work 😄

[merry kettle]

Granted vertical splitters/mergers would have fixed that issue too

[latent prawn]

out of the 1.1 feature set, i'm most disappointed with the vert splitters. they're very limited in what can be done with them because the direction of the lift dictates their orientation

(and they can't be built standalone with a different orientation

[sullen gull]

They have to be snapped onto an existing lift you mean? (Havn't mess with them myself)

[merry kettle]

Can't you deconstruct the lift above/below them and place a new lift and change its orientation?

[latent prawn]

yeah, which means that top and bottom have to be the input and output. sides are always outputs for splitters and inputs for mergers

[merry kettle]

(I haven't tested that, so I genuinely don't know)

[sullen gull]

Or use another lift as 'scaffolding'?

[latent prawn]

you can delete one side of the lift after placing the splitter/merger, but things get kind of funny after you do so

[merry kettle]

I routinely use extra lifts as scaffolding. Has some weird visual artifacts, though.

The "kind of funny", I think.

[latent prawn]

i've found after deleting one side, nothing really ever works right with them

[sullen gull]

I was finding more issues it 1.1 with 'longer than normal' lifts.. Especially if they were lilke .5m off, it's like graphically they wouldn't complete the run.

[merry kettle]

I've noticed numerous issues with blueprints not connecting; takes some extra time to deconstruct and reconstruct pieces.

[sullen gull]

Isn't there a decently significant bug with splitters mergers, lifts and floor holes with 1.1 atm?

[latent prawn]

i haven't noticed anything that is game-breaking

[merry kettle]

So you have to have enough separation to delete and rebuild your conveyers

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I found that as well. 90% of the BP I set with a floorhole lift I had to rebuild

[latent prawn]

some stuff with blueprints always ends up being a little hit or miss

[sullen gull]

You saying in 1.1, or in general?

[merry kettle]

Also sometimes my blueprints seem to reverse the orientation of my lifts.

[latent prawn]

in general, lol

every release since update 7, bp's have had some problems that need fixing 😛

[merry kettle]

Which isn't a -huge- deal, but it's mildly annoying.

[sullen gull]

I posted a video a while back, but it was happening when I upgrade a lift

[sullen gull]

And then they go and add a whole new feature set 😏

[latent prawn]

i've noticed that orientations sometimes appear in bp's the opposite way, but it is a display artifact, not a problem with the bp system itself

[sullen gull]

Personally, it would've been good to see at least one more update before release ..

[wanton lance]

how do you unlcok the ability to ping for coal?

[latent prawn]

my use of bp's is fairly limited to just repeating chunks of stuff i want to replicated

[latent prawn]

iirc, that's unlocked with the coal power and/or steel milestones

[merry kettle]

In the particular case I had, I had saved a blueprint with the top and bottom parts of the lift deconstructed (to make it easy to connect them if I stack them up). When I placed the blueprint, a lift that had been going up was instead going down.

Definitely not a visual artifact in that case; I just ran an extra line up to the top and fed everything downward instead.

[sullen gull]

I'm starting to use them more and more for 'utilities' as well, Like a quick dropped tube cannon to get me back in a pinch if I needed, But, less needed since I was like, "What am I doing?" and just built a "SInk-it!" Bp lol. for when my pack is full from exploring.. I hate trashing anything lol.

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I just saved a temp version of my alu ingot bp without the lifts/mergers for now. Quicker to just build then have to dismantle and rebuild.

[latent prawn]

yeah, i went through a phase where i was bp'ing stuff like that, i kinda outgrew it, idk

[sullen gull]

No doubt, I can see that. Either way, I am enjoying the learning aspect of finding different things I can do with beams, pillars, and frame floors (These are great if you want a .25 nudge up or down)

[latent prawn]

i've really not been very focused on the cosmetic aspects of things in the game and more just building massive production. I do want to circle back and do a lot of polishing work, but right now i'm just trying to get enough production going of PITA items to start doing cool stuff

[sullen gull]

I really need to buckle down and do that as well. first save I ended up 'hand-crafting" radio controls, cooling devices, fused modulars, and up. As well as the P5 parts lol.

And yes, I do feel slightly ashamed 😏

[gritty sleet]

Nothing wrong with that. I've still never bothered making more than the most-basic blueprints for some of the bigger machines like refinery, basically just pre-arranged pipe manifolds.

[latent prawn]

everything above phase 3 is being made in box factories for me atm, lol

i wish oscillators & hsc's were easier to mass produce

[gritty sleet]

Yes they both suck. Need another higher-yield alt.

[latent prawn]

what i find sucky about it is that they logjam one another so you can't just build a big factory for one or the other

[abstract heron]

i love this community

[sullen gull]

Hate oscillators lol

[sullen gull]

And we lurv you too! 😏

[abstract heron]

ik after a hard day my factory and my factory problems will be with me went i logged off

[wanton lance]

is it possible to dismantle my whole factory and bring everything with me in a tractor and go somewhere else

[sullen gull]

Depends on how big your 'factory' is I guess.

Tractor is about the size of a standard container I think?

[dense violet]

sure? but why dismantle a factory making you things?

[sullen gull]

Actually, one more than a standard container

[wanton lance]

to move idk i was just wondering

[sullen gull]

Don't mind him, play how you want. But again, if you have like 30-40 or more machines, tons of foundations, etc, it may be hard. But hard to answer ya know?

[dense violet]

the game forces you to spread out in any case. Linking more nodes together. Just take the tiers as a nice long tutorial 🙂 play around

[latent prawn]

i'd honestly just leave my old factory where it is and build a new one along side it

[umbral bolt]

Better yet, build one around it

[latent prawn]

echoing some sage wisdom said long ago: 'bad factory is better than no factory'

[umbral bolt]

Urban sprawl factory

[zenith pecan]

I tend to rebuild a lot, although I'll fill a container or ten before I do a teardown simply to reuse the mining nodes, and exercise better ideas without leaving in the old.

[sullen gull]

Got nothing but time, and no achievement for speed imo

[abstract heron]

next build i am tthinking working on plastic or rubber factory

[zenith pecan]

I have rubber & plastic being sent into depots courtesy of the power stations byproducts,

[latent prawn]

atm, i have 6000/min of plastic just going into the sink, lol

[wanton lance]

so the problem is I want coal to automate power but nearest coal with water is 1000 m away so does that mean I have to make base over there or can I wire power over?

[latent prawn]

running power cables is cheap

if you're thinking those distances to be large, you aren't yet realizing how fricking massive your building in the game will eventually get

[zenith pecan]

Only 1km, man you'd hate to follow some of my 14km+ tunnels that have dozens of belts and the power routed along them 😛

[wanton lance]

so I can just make some type of coal plant there that makes power then wire the power over?

[latent prawn]

yeah, coal power needs water as well. i find it easiest to build coal power in a location that has coal AND water

[wanton lance]

yeah thats what it is

[latent prawn]

(newbie tip: the ponds in grass fields are not great for power plants)

[wanton lance]

mine is the ocena

[latent prawn]

ahh, up in rocky or dune desert?

each starting biome has a location ideal for coal power

[wanton lance]

-3057,-155

its rocky

[latent prawn]

gotcha. if you go a bit north along the coastline to the corner of the map, there's some coal along the coast

[wanton lance]

i think thats what I found

[latent prawn]

pretty good place for power imho

[prisma thicket]

That's where I have my coal power plant setup

[latent prawn]

the rocky desert actually has 3 easily accessible coal spots - the one i listed, up the cliffs at the crater lakes and then on the other side of the biome in the north forest bay

[prisma thicket]

Maxed out with mk.3 miners you can get up to 9000 MW just from those 4 coal nodes.

[wanton lance]

so you have to biomass burner to start water pump and once it starts it generatres its own power?

[latent prawn]

pretty much

the coal miner as well

[prisma thicket]

Yes, if you hand feed the coal generators, you can use 1 biomass burner to kickstart the whole system.

[latent prawn]

the water extractors use what, 20-30mw?

[prisma thicket]

Yah, no more than 30 each.

at 100% clock speed

[latent prawn]

in any event, i usually do a quick build of a generator direct fed from an extractor & miner to bootstrap the real power plant i wish to build

[prisma thicket]

I'm too lazy to do that, I just run power poles from my biomass burner array at my starter base to run the water extractors and miners for the full coal generator setup. Once the coal gens are online I hook them up to that same set of power poles and have power flowing back to my base.

Currently have 48 coal generators running in that spot, with mk.2 miners on all the coal nodes fully overclocked, producing 4500 MW of power (the gens are each OC to 125%)

I'd figure if you were enslaving Taromani you'd want a masive RF power plant like they have in the blue crater

[latent prawn]

my design hasn't changed much, still do the 8+3 oc'd to 250%

since 1.0, i haven't built nearly as much coal power

[abstract heron]

new issue for me some of my RF pipes are not getting enough stuff

and the same pipe is being a person so it will be later me problem to fix

[prisma thicket]

Hmmmm I need a small amount of nitrogen gas for my factory on the Gold Coast. Do I pipe it down from the well, or package/unpackage it and use a train or belt to move it that way?

[echo hinge]

there is 1.1 expreimental so i can play on 1.1 or wait for full update ? how it works ?

[prisma thicket]

You can opt into experimental to play 1.1 now, or you can play on the stable branch and wait until June 10th to play 1.1, whichever you want to do.

[echo hinge]

if i gonna have save on experimmental after 10 th june i will be playing on stable branch of 1.1 ?

[prisma thicket]

Yes, I believe so.

[echo hinge]

ok thank you

[formal minnow]

I find it absolutely insane that fluid dynamics in this game are so detailed that fluids can slosh in pipes

[static finch]

i just unlocked crude oil. i have to go 2300m to get to the nearest vein 😭

[dense violet]

drone?

[dense violet]

if they didn't pipes would just be covered belts

[latent prawn]

as Cobalt suggested, one of the best uses for drones is to package the nitro and use them to move the empties and fulls in a single load

since nitrogen compresses 4:1 when packaged, you can move quite a lot of it with a single drone

[echo hinge]

whats the best start location on 1.1

[sullen gull]

Alll of them

[latent prawn]

really any of them

[sullen gull]

If it's your first play through, Grasslands or rocky desert get my vote.

[echo hinge]

i played it befor

[latent prawn]

grass fields used to be worse than all the others, but the map changes in 1.0 actually make it on-par if not better than the other biomes

[sullen gull]

I'm still liking the area just in front of the water falls in the rocky desert, good collection of nodes not too far from each other.

[latent prawn]

the blue crater right next door is really one of the sweetest spots on the map for most things you'll end up needing

[echo hinge]

i have one more question if i am on experimental 1.1 after realase of stable version i can play the same save on the stable 1.1

[sullen gull]

Yes

[echo hinge]

ok

[latent prawn]

you'll not have problems

[sullen gull]

You 'MAY' have to rebuild some things would be my guess..

[latent prawn]

the only issues i've noticed are with some older bp's i made

[sullen gull]

lifts, floorholes maybe .

[latent prawn]

stuff already built isn't a problem. new stuff made from old bp's, yeah, 1.1 bp's don't quite work the same

[echo hinge]

its still worth playing now

[sullen gull]

I'm loving it.

Though, it does crash every time I exit, and there are a couple other bugs

[latent prawn]

i'm wondering if for the official 1.1 release, if they'll add a little something extra as surprise

[sullen gull]

Heh, anyone else notice the elevator music still playing in an area after deconstructing one? heh

[latent prawn]

haha, yeah, i made note of that earlier, lol

i'm guessing the AoE for it is kind of like radiation

[sullen gull]

I had the same though. Because they (Mikeal, not about Snutt) like to say 'They Lie" loll

[fiery pewter]

Me and my friend have a world together, and our first really big project is an oil power plant in the Spire Coast, but we just lack the motivation to start on it, since its actually huge. Anyone ot tips or advice to start on a big project like that?

[sullen gull]

Do it in sections

[echo hinge]

i think i try northen forest

[reef basin]

Don't build huge for no reason

[sullen gull]

Logistics, work on production for things one at a time, and, there's no rush other than the goals you set for yourself

[fiery pewter]

Well we have the blueprints, the location, and I have already collected the Crude

[latent prawn]

i like to figure out train stations first and lay rails down. after that, i lay some foundation and start building machines to figure out where things are going to go, and then after that all, i start figuring out the belting & piping

[fiery pewter]

Need an auxilarry factory tho

[reef basin]

Build only what you need now

[fiery pewter]

Kinda what we're trying to do

[reef basin]

Don't build things "for later"

[static finch]

i layout foundations for later.

[fiery pewter]

Gas masks, need a useful way of ridding 30 polymer resin

[fiery pewter]

Its just 15.000 megawatts

We only won't be able to start anything up lol

Coal power only does 2400

And that is all being used

[latent prawn]

there's a point in the game where i make a crate of fabric from resin just to have it for filters, but honestly, the default biomass+mycelia recipe will make you more fabric than you'll ever need if you have a small autosorter with some biomass constructors & asseblers

the rubber you can make from resin always ends up useful somewhere

[fiery pewter]

Yeah that's fair

But its kinda late in planning now to change

[latent prawn]

i usually end up needing between 5k and 10k rubber & plastic/min for everything i wish to build

[fiery pewter]

Fabric blueprint is made, water is collected, and the auxillary factory is already halfway done

[fiery pewter]

We're are not that good at planning lol

[mortal ginkgo]

Mycelia is the problem me thinks

[sullen gull]

Only one way to get better 😏

[latent prawn]

my point is that you end up needing a ton of rubber & plastic when you start making electronics. any extra that gets kicked off from fuel production is useful

[sullen gull]

Eh, HOR seems to be a staple for a of different things, especially weapons, So I just make fabric there and gas masks. Iodine later when have aluminum

[latent prawn]

very easy to gather. many caves you can take a chainsaw to stuff to get some of it and then various plants like the potted trees in dune desert yield mycelia when cut down

[fiery pewter]

Yeah I might rethink the factory, since next on the list is a electronics factory, after that just some more advanced basic production, since all of our basic production goes on minimum rates

[sullen gull]

Almost everything around the blue crater seems to give mycelia

[latent prawn]

i'm not 100%, but i think the pink coral in blue crater & rocky desert also gives you some mycelia

[pearl walrus]

Agreed

[boreal musk]

just go to swamp, easily gather thousands of mycelia

[mortal ginkgo]

rocky desert cactus etc gives tons of mycelia hut still

[shell sluice]

so if i have a pipeline junction built with one connection pointing up, and all i wanna do is build a small vertical pipe segment coming out of it, not connected to anything, why does this seem impossible? it seems like every pipe build mode it wants to connect \ pretzel out every which way instead of just allowing me the simple task of building a small vertical pipe segment going straight up?

[latent prawn]

btw, on the subject of the swamp, a minute in the muck with the chainsaw gives you more biostuff than you'll know what to do with. i was kind of surprised at how quickly my inventory filled with it

[sullen gull]

Sometimes try from the other direction (if you haven't)

[shell sluice]

what other direction

[latent prawn]

place a floor hole in a foundation where you wish the endpoint to be

[sullen gull]

Like, in stead of pulling from machine to junction, pull from junction to machine (or whatever you're connecting, same principle.

[shell sluice]

but i dont want to build below the floor, i want to build above

[latent prawn]

yeah, build a temporary foundation

[sullen gull]

Use the floor hole as a temp.

[shell sluice]

i want to build a small pipe segment vertically, so i can put another junction on it so i can then connect those higher junctions between themselves

[sullen gull]

Then placer your junction, delete and rebuild the pipe to the junction.

[shell sluice]

... thats so stupid, you really cant do the simple task of building a small vertical pipe segment in this game?

[sullen gull]

Pipes have to have something to connect to on either end

[pearl walrus]

Brother everyone is fine, learn the game, stop complaining

[shell sluice]

its just not great design with how pipe building works it seems

[latent prawn]

pipes go where you point. there's nothing to point at in open air

[shell sluice]

if you have to go through laying unneeded foundations to create ghost suppports

[sullen gull]

Eh, it may takes some getting used to perhaps, but works well when you figure it out

[sullen gull]

and then just delete them. You don't loose anything.

[pearl walrus]

Why is "If you wanna build up you have to place a wall or something thats UP to place it on" a hard concept to grasp and bad design????

[latent prawn]

you can also sometimes do something like build a beam and snap the pipe connector to the side, but you need a tangible anchor point for a pipe end

[sullen gull]

And even if it's just temporary

[sullen gull]

Or a wall, foundation, etc.

[shell sluice]

because if you allow junctions to point upwards, it seems very natural that you could just create an arbitrary length vertical pipe coming out of it, why would that be such a bad feature to have?

[mortal ginkgo]

You really shouldnt use realism in a game like this.

I get where this guy comes from. Things can float in air just fine and 1.1 introduces infinite nudge.

It is not a bad design but could be better.

[latent prawn]

because a pipe without a destination point is pretty useless

[sullen gull]

And vertical nudge 🤤

[shell sluice]

but the destination is a pipe junction that doesnt exist yet that i would palce afterwards...

[pearl walrus]

Its not about realism its about how you place foundations for everything

[mortal ginkgo]

Brother I am in 1.1 and putting blueprints no longer cause aging irl.

Also "this object cant be nudged" seems to be completely gone. Devs cooking.

[sullen gull]

You still need some sort of 'scaffolding'

[sullen gull]

Water extractors :*(

[latent prawn]

i skillfully sidestep the problem of building vertical pipes without anchor points by snapping them between a series of pumps i've placed 🙂

[shell sluice]

i mean i get it, you can adapt to the finicky placement (lets just call it that) with whatever strategies, but this just seems like some very basic missing functionality

[mortal ginkgo]

needing to put a foundation to prepare putting stuff vertically is still, again, not a bad design but a meh one.

[mortal ginkgo]

DEVS CANT KEEP GET AWAY WITH THIS BRO.

😭

[shell sluice]

well if you allowed placing vertical pipes of some arbitrary small length from vertically placed junctions, you wouldnt need to change anything else and whatever strategies you guys are mentioning, it would simply be a simple and obvious new way to place pipes that would be quite helpful

[mortal ginkgo]

you gonna start using blueprints to avoid such sly shenanigans anyway so dont stress too much.

1.1 and its infinite nudge plus vertically is a massive qol change

Indeed game is strangely strict with belt and pipes whereas everything is yoloswag.

[shell sluice]

i'm using the experimental, is that 1.1? it tells me "building cant be nudged"

[sullen gull]

By pipe connector, you're referring to the wall mount right?

[sullen gull]

Which building?

And it's it 'snapped' to something?

[latent prawn]

i guess, whatever the pipe uses as the free endpipe support

[shell sluice]

#screenshots message
ok lemme explain what id like to do, purple = pipe junction, red = pipe, i just wish i could build a small pipe segment vertically, add a pipe junction on top of it so i could connect a couple of coal gens with a pipe going just above that way, would be nice and space efficient, without having to go through with hoops to get these pipes and pipe junctions aligned this way, it would be very natural to be able to build a small vertical pipe segment placed vertically from the junction placed near the coal gens

[sullen gull]

Er,. yeah, swaps auto automatically. For some reason I though you were taking about a junction, so I was sitting here trying it lol

[sullen gull]

I gotchu

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

Make sense @shell sluice ?

One thing to remember is that a lot of the 'buildables' can be "tools" too.

And, dare I say were 'designed' that way.

[shell sluice]

and when a coal gen is in the way? regardless if there are workarounds, i dont understand the reason why they wouldnt allow you to simply build a short pipeline vertically from a junction

[sullen gull]

And, you can place the foundations right over the machine...

[sullen gull]

@shell sluice #screenshots message

I wouldn't say it's a 'workaround' I feel it's part of the design. And, given you're already on 1.1 those nudge changes make it even better.

[boreal musk]

you can use stackable pipeline instead of placing foundation for support

less work to do

[solid grail]

Just finished my first coal power plant. On to the steel factory.

[sullen gull]

How is that? You still have to place them, then your're only locked to 4m incriments ... and that was all done in less than a minute 30 lol...

work ..

[boreal musk]

easier snap, and not to mention vertical nudge if you want to get out of 4m increments

[sullen gull]

Junctions don't snap to stackable piplines.. .

[boreal musk]

u can snap the pipe first and then junction

simple

i rather do stackable pipelines than placing foundation that block my whole vision if im not on air

[sullen gull]

You do what's best easiest for you

[solid grail]

You do pipes first then place foundation?

[sullen gull]

I think they're just saying that they'd rather not zoop a foundation through their buildings

Unless you making a joke, then I'm just dense.

[solid grail]

Ooh like that alright

[solid grail]

Nah haha

[shell sluice]

#screenshots message
thanks thats a helpful way to do it, happy with how it looks now

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-judging-controversial-sassy-annoyed-gif-6001204319548765339

[solid grail]

🫡

[sullen gull]

@boreal musk Like this you mean yeah?

[sterile blade]

!offtopic

[solid grail]

Cum?

[sterile blade]

I was just testing, don't banish me!

[sullen gull]

Main thing I don't like about that method is it doesn't snap to the coal gen when vertical :/

[sterile blade]

Try GoogleTranslating from Latin

[sullen gull]

Sorry, @boreal musk, forgot to past the link #screenshots message

Or something

[solid grail]

Agreed

[sullen gull]

The pig, or the actor?

[solid grail]

Both

[boreal musk]

45° angle does snap, but if you want precise snapping for 90° you can add the stackable pipelines for every input (it looks like a lot of work but you can pretty much add it as BP)

[sullen gull]

Sounds like too much work 😏

[boreal musk]

theres also other way to snap vertical junction, you just need to place horizontal junction on the bottom of it

[solid grail]

You can also place a junction in front of the pipe and then you can snap one vertical

[sullen gull]

Oh, when doing it across the pipe with the stackables?

[solid grail]

Ill show in screenshots 1sec

[sullen gull]

I'll run all the pipes, every which way 🙂

[solid grail]

wait you mean placing junctions precise and vertical right

[shell sluice]

ok another stupid question, if im trying to place a junction how do i rotate it along the different axes? with mousewheel it only wants to rotate along one axis, but im trying to rotate it along another one

oh never mind

[sullen gull]

It only rotates around the axis it's snapped to

[sterile blade]

!ban @unborn gyro
Reason: Obscene texts

[shell sluice]

yeah i guess i just need to place it on a surface facing another way i see

[sullen gull]

@solid grail , yeah, soranei posted similar in #design-and-architecture message

[solid grail]

ooh i see alr

got 36 coal generators working finally took some time to load the coal

using on pure coal node and one overclocked normal node

and 18 water extractors at 75%

nice

true

yes

and dog

give me coupons i need more

yes

your pfp is your cat?

[solid grail]

@unborn gyro ?

ooh

he looks stoned af

why if i split my conveyor in 3 it does not keep up with the coal but if i use manifold it does..

Nvm should have used t2 belt when i split them

[lapis crest]

WHY DO BLUEPRINT RAILS NOT CLICK TOGETHER!?