satisfactory

[swift kernel]

What I love is the fact that at some point in development, they obviously made it bigger and more explorable.

I was surprised when I came over here to scout it out in 1.1 and I could get further than I was the last time I explored out here

[sullen gull]

I only started a month or so before 1.0 lol

Feel like I've missed so much 🤣

[swift kernel]

I've played since Alpha, but I'm always resetting lol

[trim vine]

a lot of folk like to do a lot of infrastructure in the lower tiers, I am a fan of doing exactly what is needed in starter factory type deals to get to bauxite, cause 780 belts is where you can really start to optimize

most everything not done on a 780/1200 belt will need to be reworked anywho 😛

[lime ermine]

I only started in March

[trim vine]

please excuse my elitist views

[sullen gull]

Lol, yeah, I'm so enamored with building things, I tend to not care about the progression, and then curse when I find that I need something i don't have yet. And it's like, why don't I just play on creative?

[lime ermine]

Already in phase 9 though

[placid stirrup]

I've never played and am on the final milestone

[trim vine]

a true pioneer

[sullen gull]

Oh, I've completed Phase 5 once so far in another save. Then mucked around with a creative, and just started a new one with 1.1

[lime ermine]

I'm going to make my next sale so much better, my current one is just lay down foundations and make spaghetti

[sullen gull]

Lol, first runs tend to do.

[placid stirrup]

First playthrough is always a tutorial

[sullen gull]

Though, even early on in later runs, cause you just can't be bothered lol

[vapid falcon]

@sullen gull just finished the generators :D

[swift kernel]

That was basically every save for me before 1.0

[vapid falcon]

#screenshots

[sullen gull]

Turbo fuel right?

[vapid falcon]

Rocket Fuel

🚀

[sullen gull]

Yeah, just saw ... 'Read before asking dimwit'

[sullen gull]

Niice. You guys end up going slug hunting then? 😏

[vapid falcon]

yes xD and using somersloops to duplicate them

[swift kernel]

I have more powershards than I know what to do with

[sullen gull]

What's next? 😏

[sullen gull]

I finally ran out 😭

[swift kernel]

I'm so overdue for phase 3. I'm so excited that I finally get to play with the next tiers. I've been holding back for so long.

[vapid falcon]

i think doing nuclear stuff

[sullen gull]

But I did clear the spire coast and north of slugs last night ... just gotta run em through the bit

[sullen gull]

Lol, Moar powwah eh?

[vapid falcon]

maybe XD

[swift kernel]

Skill issue

[sullen gull]

PSA: Don't forget to pet your LizzardDoggo today! And feed em too!

[swift kernel]

Hey I don't think I've ever shown y'all my big truck stop area yet

The results of staying in phase 2 at least 400 hours longer than strictly necessary #screenshots message

[fresh wharf]

How do I switch to Homing Rifle Ammo? It seems like my rifle is only able to consume normal rifle ammo..?
But it's at 0

[placid stirrup]

They eat nuclear waste, in case anyone was wondering

[placid stirrup]

Should be hold R and a wheel pops up

[fresh wharf]

Thanks

[split prairie]

is there a limit to how many routes are available in the menu? im having some tractors doing routes but theyre apparently not showing up in the load menu

[silent burrow]

steam

gotcha

[swift kernel]

Btw, @sullen gull Here's my power grid rn. Just so you have another comparison point ig. #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Yeah, can't fathom why I've haven't used them more. That's a good system though. Just from the glance at what you posted yesterday I was able to mostly track what is going on.

[lime ermine]

Alright time to make a fixonium power plant from scratch! I'm gonna die

[swift kernel]

Necessity is the mother of invention, and I am severely underpowered. I don't think I'd have used them so much if I hadn't started having outages because I thought putting up lights everywhere was such a good idea.

[sullen gull]

Lol, bout time to make a snazzy grid JUST for lights 😏

I want to do that now. And then just watch the grid spike when it gets dark 🤣

[swift kernel]

I've got some time to kill now that I've set up the machines for Project Assembly, so I'm building out some hypertubes that I should have build a long time ago

[gentle stream]

15 rotors/m factory #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Never been a huge fan of running hyper-tube networks lol. Should maybe dabble more though.

[swift kernel]

They are super useful inside factories, but when I'm outside, I usually just revert to the ziplines

[zenith pecan]

When I finally get production going properly, I'm moving away from a hupertube network in favour of a portal network.

[sullen gull]

Nice. Now bolster those floors or their gonna fall! 😏

[sullen gull]

Lol, I just resort to hyper tube cannons 🤣

Killed @zenith pecan with one 😏

[zenith pecan]

Not sure how, I'm still here 🤷‍♂️

[swift kernel]

Maybe I'll use those once I reach Phase 5. For now, I feel like I haven't "earned" fast travel yet, yknow?

[zenith pecan]

I've just finished building a half kilometre tall radar tower in the middle of the swamp next to some bauxite nodes.

[gentle stream]

LOL it was just ez to build over that edge. My power batterys started draining I ujst noticed I was making it to get motors for oil power LOL had to decomission my smart plating factory

[sullen gull]

Was referring when you died trying to help remove that quartz crystal in my save. Getting shot off the map lol

[zenith pecan]

Oh that one, hah 😛

[sullen gull]

You mean just turn it off right? 😏

[gentle stream]

yeah

i destroyed the power line connecting it to my grid

[sullen gull]

Ahh, will, ok, that makes sense. I read decommission and I'm over here thinking you tore it down lol

[sullen gull]

Pssssh, you earn'ed it the minute they gave you hypertubes lol

[zenith pecan]

One thing with these mines getting towers is it provides visible landmarks (and a sign that a tube entrance is there)

[swift kernel]

But... I am the Law. I.. I can't cheat at Satisfactory.

What sort of example would I be setting for the kids?

[gentle stream]

just unlocked oil and I see how I can make fuel but how do I use the fuel to generate power?

[swift kernel]

There is a fuel generator you can unlock

You can pump fuel into it

[gentle stream]

I dont see it in the power section

[swift kernel]

Did you unlock it in the HUB?

[gentle stream]

is it seperate?

[swift kernel]

You know, it strikes me that I haven't used a fuel generator since they were fed belts...

[zenith pecan]

So you don't save edit, cool 🙂

[swift kernel]

Save edit is for noobs

[gentle stream]

bro why is it serparate WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY

[swift kernel]

(Actually I barely know what save editing is)

[swift kernel]

Because the game hates you specifically

[zenith pecan]

Also wholly unnecessary imho.

[gentle stream]

i have to find oil and water now to make plastic brooooooo

[swift kernel]

I can imagine using it if I was trying to salvage a post game factory and didn't want to dismantle everything by hand.

But that's post game. Everything is fair in post game

[zenith pecan]

I still take stuff apart by hand, old habit.

[gentle stream]

my power is still draining from the banks why bro why why why ill just wait until i make a decent amount of motors then turn it off temporarily

[sullen gull]

Duuuude, Anthor fixed SCIM and I was able to get my elevator car removed !

[zenith pecan]

SCIM always crashes browser tabs when I load one of my saves to it, damned annoying when I'm trying to line up a shaft from below and have to reload the save often after I build more crap.

[sullen gull]

I mean, when you're breaking the rules and such 🤣

I'd say you can go let him know about it though if you wanted. The other thing I noticed is SCIM was turning all the fans sideways.

[zenith pecan]

Tbh my system settings are probably interacting poorly with Anthors ads, which are blocked several ways and scripts are blocked by default, allowed only on a case by case basis.

[sullen gull]

Eh, Ive used it on this save numerous times now. To copy something I didn't want to spend 50 hours making 5 of, to raise up a whole building because of not following the 7 P's

[swift kernel]

Well we've already established you're a heretic. In for a penny, in for a pound.

[swift kernel]

But uh, what are the 7 P's?

[sullen gull]

I literally only use Ublock Origin with firefox and see zero ads.

But, in lieu of that, and because I use it so much, I do subscribe to his patreon.

[zenith pecan]

My network runs through a mini pc that houses my pi-hole, that blocks the stuff that refuses to be blocked by Ublock, and unblockable telemetry.

[sullen gull]

Piss Poor Prior Planning Presents Poor Performance

[sullen gull]

Yeah, my UDM pro does that 😏

[zenith pecan]

Different way around to how I've always said that, "Proper Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance"

[sullen gull]

Tried Pi-hole for a while, then didn't, didn't notice a huge difference personally.

[sullen gull]

Yeah, there are multiple ways to say it I've heard. That's just the one I remember.

Like with K.I.S.S.

[zenith pecan]

The approach that caused tunnels.

[sullen gull]

Many like saying Keep It Simple Stupid.... I prefer, Keep It Stupid Simple ... this way you're not offending the other person by calling them stupid 😏

[zenith pecan]

Instead of building up hill and down dale with an overly complex mess and web of logistics, I build in straight lines.

[sullen gull]

Yeah, It's a good approach that has definitely inspired some projects for me.

[zenith pecan]

I have all of the bauxite being sent underground now, I'm just working to merge the belts and follow the route into the dunes where the refinery will go.

[broken thorn]

I could never clip

[zenith pecan]

Here's what all the bauxite looks like in one space #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Now that elevator is gone, I've tore down the water farm and am rebuilding it 🤣

I can only imagine how it must feel running around down there, building stuff for hours, and then popping out to see daylight 🤣

[hollow vector]

can you make a near infinite infinite hypertube enclosed using the new splitters?

[zenith pecan]

It's not exactly difficult, though vertical shafts are really the only way since other approaches go all to jank and are like urgh 🥶 brr!

[sullen gull]

Ur, ummm,, maaaybe? I've seem some crazy 'cannon boxes' where you can choose your exit lol

[swift kernel]

I'm finally in Phase 3

[scenic cradle]

If water is getting to a higher segment of pipe with good flowrate, any pipe lower after, even just a little lower, should always be full right?

[merry kettle]

Not necessarily

[swift kernel]

I'm finally getting a jetpack

[scenic cradle]

fair enough

[scenic cradle]

nice, You get it phase 3? good to know I'm just now getting coal power so a while to go 😂

[swift kernel]

Oh yeah, it's available with phase 2 parts. So it's a no brainer immediate unlock for me

[merry kettle]

(As an example, if the lower pipe has a consumption rate higher than its fill rate)

But the fluid mechanics can get arbitrarily complex depending on what you're doing

[swift kernel]

Gonna miss my trusty parachute

[stone python]

still very usable if you get good at ground surfing, you accelerate up hills

[swift kernel]

Oh yeah, I love rock surfing

But I'm gonna make friends with my jetpack now

[merry kettle]

The parachute never stops being useful

[lime ermine]

How much waste does a plutonium powered nuclear power plant make per minute

[dense violet]

Try the wiki

[woeful gate]

Is there any way to get a wall in the MIDDLE of the blueprint designer rather than on one side?

[frail sleet]

nudging

[woeful gate]

how do?

Im assuming I have to dislock it from the grid somehow...

[frail sleet]

Get the build hologram up, then press H, then arrow keys (optional Ctrl)

[woeful gate]

:O

[woeful gate]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-i-love-you-ily-gif-4247002

[trim vine]

How many walls high are refiners?

[swift kernel]

Too damn high

[true mulch]

!wikisearch refinery

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=refinery

[frail sleet]

8x4 i think? But 10 for good clearance

[true mulch]

divide height by 4 for your answer

[trim vine]

I dont math too good

[swift kernel]

That's what the in-game calculator is for

I'm so happy I got Phase 2 complete. Seriously, I don't think I've gotten to phase three since.... before pipes were added to the game.

[sullen gull]

37m

9 1/4

[next stump]

Any news for console been going insane

[sullen gull]

Nope. None other than it's top priority after 1.1 release afaik.

[next stump]

Hell yeah that’s what I like to hear

[rain wedge]

#announcements more feature that uses slug?

[scenic cradle]

So I have my coal gens in a line, 8 in a row, 2 rows, how do I stop water from only halfway filling the ones on the end? They keep shutting on and off

[sullen gull]

Fill from both ends and the center

[woeful gate]

Can you rotate a blueprint less than 90 degrees?

[sullen gull]

And, make sure you have at 3 water extractors for 8 generators.

[gentle stream]

how much fuel goes into a fuel generator it doesnt tell me

[sullen gull]

!wikisearch fuel generator

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=fuel

[sullen gull]

!wikisearch fuel+generator

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=fuel+generator

[sullen gull]

There we go

@gentle stream

[gentle stream]

ty

i didnt know u had to go to the wiki

[sullen gull]

But, they won't show consumption until fuel is in them fyi

[gentle stream]

bro why who thought that was a good idea why doesnt it just say in quick search

[scenic cradle]

haha this worked thank you

[true mulch]

I think it lists the rates somewhere in the UI once you build one

It's not the devs' idea to put some info only on the wiki

[shell sluice]

wait what, apparently i got "the floor is lava" achievement today while afk watching starship launch, no idea how it happened 😂

[boreal musk]

stay on air for 30min

[shell sluice]

but i was just afking on the ground

[scenic cradle]

well apparently your wrong because the game says you were floating so 🤣

[sullen gull]

Using the hoverpack and wasn't fully on the ground?

[shell sluice]

i dont even have hoverpack yet

[quick oak]

Being on foundations counts

[shell sluice]

idk maybe cause i was in death screen for a long time. i remember pressing Esc for menu thinking it pauses game while i was exploring and when i came back i was dead cause i guess it doesnt

[quick oak]

Standing on literally anything other than the ground can give it to you. (Hub, machines, foundations, etc.)

[shell sluice]

that seems pretty silly

[scenic cradle]

Really? thats nuts youd think it would be like you character isnt touching anything at all

[boreal musk]

thats new to me, i only got the achievement when im on the air, it never count when stepping on foundation

[quick oak]

I've seen a few similar questions on reddit and that was the answer most people gave. It may or may not be a bug, and the wiki says foundations shouldn't count.

[dense violet]

well if you play 'the floor is lava' you have to be on something

[shell sluice]

does the explorer car's lights look like theyre on to you guys? in my game it illuminates the ground in front of it but the lights still look turned off

[vernal patrol]

is the pretty night sky common or a random event (the pretty night sky im referring to is in #screenshots )

[forest bridge]

What's the max distance a drone can fly on one tank of fuel

[vernal patrol]

depends on the fuel

[boreal musk]

it was a part of ficsmas, but ppl here likes it a lot so they want it to be present outside ficsmas

its supposed to be a rare random event at night

[worn garden]

bruhhhh this game needs soo much planning and stuff....

i complete one build just to get short by another build.... now i have to rebuild the other one

just to rebuild another one and another one

[dense violet]

I'm fairly certain even the lowest tier fuel can take a drone from corner to corner when filled up

[forest bridge]

Oh nice

[dense violet]

rebuilding can lead to burn out - if it's getting tedious try just building an entirely new factory to increase productivity

[shell sluice]

when you build foundations and use snap mode, do they snap to a world grid so like if you start building foundations from two locations and meet in the middle they will meet perfectly?

[worn garden]

"rebuilding can lead to burn out so try out rebuilding an entire factory all over again"

😂

[dense violet]

building a new factory. Not rebuilding

demolishing and redoing a thing can be much much more tedious compared to a new project

[half wadi]

the process of removing the existing buildings is an added pain point, especially if that factory interacts with any others

[dense violet]

and on top of hte extra work of demolishing it can be really demoralising and much worse

[worn garden]

what about the recourses nodes tho? i run out of them :(

[dense violet]

your computer will catch on fire and kill you before you can use all the nodes on the map

[worn garden]

:0

[dense violet]

the only part of that that is an exageration is the killing you bit.

you cannot reasonablly use all the resources on the map

[boreal musk]

youre not tied to just one area, the map is very large and encourage you to explore

[worn garden]

i will lol

[boreal musk]

you can use V to scan nodes

[dense violet]

even using half the nodes on the map is going to probably put your computer in significant distress unless you have the best hardware

[dense violet]

your computer literally cannot handle processing all the nodes on hte map unless you're just sinking the ore. And that doesn't count

this is processing the nodes to end point tech

[shell sluice]

@worn garden have you researched mercer sphere technology? once you do that your need for centralized storage disappears somewhat

[worn garden]

should i just focus on producing materials that are required to get through phases? instead of trying to build an "all materials farm"

[worn garden]

I speedran through MAM and unlocked almost all the stuff lol

[shell sluice]

but do you actually use it

[half wadi]

the amount of planning that would be required to execute a single central factory pulling everything is uh...yeah

[worn garden]

but can't use them right now cuz im still in early game (phase 2 i think)

[half wadi]

just build factories to make what you actually need

[shell sluice]

the game really wants you to build a lot of decentralized factories not one big central one

[half wadi]

if you aren't on phase 3/4, don't bother with that, just focus on making what you need right now

[dense violet]

it's really up to you

there's 2 main groups of players

1. people who will go through the tiers, and after unlocking everything will do their own projects treating it like a sandbox

2. people who will be 'done' with teh game after phase 5

either way it doesn't really matter how you approach going through the tiers as whatever you build now, won't help you on your Sandbox game OR matter after finihshing the phases

personally I would treat all the tiers as a really good and long tutorial to do your own projects, but I'm a sandbox guy

[worn garden]

yeah... but how yall plan your factories???

i recently built a steel factory at a different place away from my base, where i went to all the iron and coal recourses nodes in that area and balanced the outputs of both which exactly matched perfectly (540 iron/min & 540 coal/min) so i used all of them using manifolds to make a shit ton of steel and used all the steel to make stuff in constructors

[boreal musk]

i never plan how i build the factory, i just plan how much resources i need for end product and roll with it

and use online planner, it helps a lot

[worn garden]

damn.... I NEED THAT

because all the time i over do my materials... and they end up becomes waste of time

[half wadi]

when i played a lot, i just planned the basic workflow, not the actual building-by-building schematic

[worn garden]

i needed 1000 smart plating, but i have like 50000 of those

[half wadi]

how many buildings do i actually need, in what order, etc

you'll need everything

[dense violet]

seems fine? but imo you'll have an easier time working from an end goal backwards

[half wadi]

the later tiers continue to use the items you build in the earlier tiers

[dense violet]

this is probalby the best planner to use. Takes a bit of practice but is very useful https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[worn garden]

im planning to make a factory which produces all my basic iron needs and one for all my steel needs and one for all my PHASE materials needs

[boreal musk]

working from end product is always the easier approach

ex: i need 10 computer/min, that means how much oil/quartz i need to bring, how much copper needed

[atomic notch]

i just stick shit where it needs to go

[dense violet]

ok so that's doable, but tough unless you're planning from an end point. Which you can't really do because you don't have all the tech

[sullen gull]

In his opinion. Tools is very good for automagically finding the "best", Satisfactory Modeler on steam is really good for casual manual (though auto calculating) and organizing of different configurations.

[dense violet]

there is a way to do it but it kinda means NOT planning

[boreal musk]

centralization requires ALOT of planning and hundreds of hours of experience

its better to just do modular factory

[dense violet]

or not carring about efficiency

[dense violet]

if you do want to make a central factory to go up tiers and phases

build it in floors

floor 1 - smelters
floor 2 - constructors
floor 3 - assemblers
ect

have large buffers between each process, connect production lines and overflow to one another as needed

[worn garden]

will it get exponentially harder after phase 2?

[dense violet]

well it gets more complex and has more steps yes.

which is why I go up the tiers with that method. Doesn't take much work or planning.

[atomic notch]

its just more work lol

[worn garden]

yall don't make basic farms?? cuz you not only need them to make phase materials... you also need them to build stuff, tha'ts why im tryna make steel, iron, copper farms

[dense violet]

that's part of what the buffers between each item production line does - just grab stacks as you need

it's not a method for everyone, but it's simple and gets the job done 🙂

[atomic notch]

yeah i make farms but they all right next to each other

[worn garden]

how do you bring recourses from far away nodes?

[dense violet]

belt them in

keep it simple and learn stuff as you go 😉

[atomic notch]

mostly just picking a good location but i got like 10 trains comin in

[boreal musk]

train is as simple as they can get, it can only get complicated if you have more than one train in a single track

[atomic notch]

yeah

[worn garden]

you know what, you are right... ONE step at a time

i swear i need the jetpack soo much

[shell sluice]

do jump pads use power when theyre not in use?

[dense violet]

one of the reasons all the tiers make a great tutorial 🙂

[dense violet]

it's pretty useful! liquid bio fuel for it is nice too

[worn garden]

no

[atomic notch]

p4 is when the game starts everything else is tutorial

[boreal musk]

entire game is tutorial if its your first playthrough

[atomic notch]

its not my first playthrough

[worn garden]

i found this out in a funny way....

I finished building a factory that take exactly all the power that is produced by the generators... and i was proud of myself, then i jumped on the jumpad and the extra watts made the fuse burn out 😂

[worn garden]

true

#screenshots message

my steel factory

how is it yall

[worn garden]

those 8 coal generators aren't enough for that factory 😭 i need to make another 8 now

[scenic cradle]

question, so I know height affects headlift, but does the distance the pipe goes affect it too?

[boreal musk]

as long as its on straight horizontal line, no

[scenic cradle]

interesting.. thanks

[dense violet]

every start zone has at least 1 spot with 3-4 coal nodes next to water

go find it and max it all out, and increase it every time you get faster belts and miners. 48- 64 of them before you do a serious fuel station is pretty common

[worn garden]

wait, should max out over clocking my miners all the time?

[dense violet]

As often as you need more basic ore

[cyan moss]

Main spot has 2 coal veins close 1 has enough water for 2 extractors and other has no water. Other spot with more veins is like 2k away

[dense violet]

using shards on anything other than extractors and miners only saves you space. Which is often useful, but early on I'd save them for miners

[cyan moss]

Whatever first option is for spawns

[dense violet]

grassy fields? yup that one 2km away is the spot for it

distant power is great, easy to import power with 1 cable. Use nearby coal for steel

[cyan moss]

I imported the one coal over to the big lake above the main area and used overclock water extractors. Tbh i would love to use that extra coal in future but idk. Just finished t4 but have been playing other games. I do think I need more gens though only have 1200 watts atm and consume like 1k iirc

[dense violet]

I mean it's a sandbox, do what you think is fun 🙂 but that coal spot 2km is super convenient for power

[cyan moss]

Pretty sure need to setup some other stuff before fuel idk

[dense violet]

each new machine tier takes up more and more power though. You'll need at least 3-4 coal nodes to keep up

[cyan moss]

I might relocate power there as it would not interrupt main area until i delete it

After t4 is when some of more fun stuff unlocks I think so have been waiting till now to make anything look nice or attempt to

[dense violet]

yeah I tend to wait until everything is unlocked personally 🙂

[shell sluice]

lol

[remote plaza]

any news on 1.1 coming out to main branch?

[prisma thicket]

June 10

[remote plaza]

oh shit whats the source

[prisma thicket]

The announcement video they released today

[remote plaza]

Ah didnt see, thanks

[idle stirrup]

well thats what i get for working on my mustang rather than reading up on 1.1

[opaque flower]

what are the chances that satisfactory comes to the switch 2?

[tall ivy]

Luuuuuul

When switch 3 is out, surely

[opaque flower]

bruh

the switch 2 is definitely is powerful enough to run satisfactory

[tall ivy]

Eeehhhhhh maaaaaaybe

But I have... Little good will towards nintendont make that fan game or we sue, these days

[opaque flower]

huh

i was looking into fishlabs and it looks like theyve ported a lot of their games to the switch

idk if that really means anything tho

[stark bluff]

just get the steam deck

[latent prawn]

we'll see, my gut feeling is that satisfactory won't be very nice on a handheld just because it would drain the battery very quickly

in any event, i think the game is just always going to be nicer on a high end pc

[opaque flower]

we'll see but i probably wouldnt be using it in handheld mode anyways

[opaque flower]

yeah oc

[stark bluff]

well i run on ultra (sadly with dlss) and no lag

rtx 3050

[opaque flower]

bruh not everyone is rich enough to get a switch 2 and a steam deck

[stark bluff]

get only a steam deck

[opaque flower]

i want to play nintendo games

[stark bluff]

emulate

[opaque flower]

new nintendo games

[stark bluff]

wait for emulate

[opaque flower]

bro

[stark bluff]

🐸

[opaque flower]

what if i dont have a pc to emulate

[stark bluff]

the steam deck can run windows

[latent prawn]

build one

[opaque flower]

and ur probably going to need a pretty powerful pc to emulate a switch 2

[stark bluff]

nah they def just use upscaling

[opaque flower]

still

switch 1 to switch 2 is a pretty big jump

[latent prawn]

there's only so much processing power you can cram into a handheld

[stark bluff]

mhm

[opaque flower]

and switch 1 emulation was pretty inefficient

[stark bluff]

whatever

switch is bad

[opaque flower]

you guys are just haters bruh

[latent prawn]

overall the switch 1 really wasn't that powerful of a system. just really well designed to make it easy to make use of what it had

[dense violet]

satisfactory is a resource hog. A handheld won't do it

[opaque flower]

idk

i think u guys are underestimating how powerful the switch 2 is

[dense violet]

there used to be a joke meme about a fps called Crysis, needing cooling towers teh size of buildings to run because it was so pretty. Long running gag. Honestly it wasn't THAT much of a beast.

Satisfactory is actually worse.

I mean apart from that the controls for it would be the most obnoxious thing in the world. Literal torture

[opaque flower]

idk satisfactory runs fine on my ok desktop

[dense violet]

the wear comes down when you start building up your world.

a potato can run it ok on a fresh map

[prisma thicket]

<--- Potato rig gamer

[dense violet]

also if you crank all the graphics way down it can help to a degree

[opaque flower]

my settings were pretty high

[latent prawn]

i find right around the time that i automate hmf performance starts to drop considerably

[stark bluff]

ur overestimating it

[dense violet]

how big a factory were you doing though

[opaque flower]

not that crazy big

but i have opened other people's saves

[dense violet]

it gets bad fast 🙂

[scenic cradle]

would a water tower fix water not reaching to the end of pipes or do I need to figure something else out?

[dense violet]

no, water towers don't do anything that a pump can't do

[green fiber]

Water tower is for height, not for bad flow rate

[dense violet]

feel free to make a post in #1038092680493801533 or post images from overhead in #math-and-meta

[scenic cradle]

I hate pipes XD

[green fiber]

Lemme guess: mk 2 pipe at 600/min?

[dense violet]

there's ways to make them simple and reliable in a consistent way 🙂 make a post or try to trouble shoot it with people in math and meta

[scenic cradle]

No mark 1, im just trying to get my dang coal power 😢

[prisma thicket]

Pipes aren't that bad, just have some quirks you need to get used to.

[dense violet]

well you've been given options to help trouble shoot it, up to you at this point

[green fiber]

Then maybe you are exceeding the pipe flow limit?
a coal gen uses 45/min water

And a mk 1 only moves 300/min

[prisma thicket]

How many coal generators/water extractors?

[green fiber]

So theres only so many gens you can supply

[scenic cradle]

No, I should be good, 6 extracters, 16 gens, split into 2 lines with 3 and 8

[green fiber]

2 lines? Should be 4 pipelines minimum

[scenic cradle]

crap

[green fiber]

3 extractors make 360/min water

[prisma thicket]

You need to make sure you have 2 pipes for water going to each set of 8 gens, since mk.1 pipes can't handle enough water for the full 8

[green fiber]

The 3:8 also uses "2 lines" after all

[scenic cradle]

so my problem is I need separate the extractors lines?

[dense violet]

!wikisearch CG

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[green fiber]

Either seperate or spread out where the water enters the pipe network

[dense violet]

it means set it up so no pipe section needs to move more than 300, like in the diagrams

[scenic cradle]

I understand I apologize, thanks for the help you guys I know how to set it up now

[undone jackal]

The only way to get rid of uranium waste is to make it into plutonium fuel rods?

[prisma thicket]

Correct.

[undone jackal]

Eww

[cyan garnet]

Plutonium fuel rods can be sunk, or used in vehicles waste-free

[green fiber]

Welcome to nuclear reprocessing

If its not your taste, i suggest doing Rocketfuel until the end of times

[prisma thicket]

On this save I am doing Rocket fuel into full nuclear process 😄

[undone jackal]

btw it isn’t possible to build this bc of it’s energy needs. U require too many resources to build that factory, so many that there is barely any left for energy

[green fiber]

Well you split it up

If it's too many resources for a belt, you build it in smaller groups

You dont need to put everything on one belt per resource

[vapid idol]

Hi all, I know this has been done to death but I am still struggling to find the optimal building layout for Aluminium scrap.
I am using the Electrode Aluminium scrap recipe so that I don't have to deal with silica. I want to use a method where a certain number of scrap refineries provide the water for 1 or more solution refineries perfectly, and then I add water to more solution refineries to make up the difference in the required output to the scrap refineries. Is there a tool to determine this optimised layout? I have tried Satisfactory Modeler and Satisfactory calculator but they don't go down to fine enough detail for me to get this balance right?

[undone jackal]

Nah i think it’s cool but u know if im putting in the effort to build them id also want to burn them which makes it even more complex

[green fiber]

Well if you wanna be precise, the default fuel rod recipe make enough fuel rods for exactly 3 nukes at 100%

So now you just do 1 to 3

For the alt recipe, i think its 1 to 2?

[prisma thicket]

Have you tried satisfactorytools.com? I've had no issues with laying out aluminum processing lines that way.

[green fiber]

Ah sorry, its the other way around

1:2 for default l, 1:3 for the alt

[green fiber]

Which solution recipe are you using

Cause theres a precise ratio for every recipe combo

[vapid idol]

Sloppy

[dense violet]

as long as you use sloppy solution and pure ingots you don't need to mess with silica

as for the water management your description of how you want to do it is a little confusing

[vapid idol]

Yes, but it still does not go down to the preice balance for me

[green fiber]

21 to 40

Its the shitties ratio of the 4 combos

[dense violet]

like so https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1286300794311938099/1286343954157277307/alum_options.png?ex=6837d069&is=68367ee9&hm=249ae1813d30d79210a474c75958583d1354a48f44ca3f6a88d5350c9f4b26cc&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=934&height=1320

[green fiber]

21 sloppy refineries per 40 scrap refineries, where those 21 get all the byproduct water.

The rest of it is just fresh water for the other alumina refineries

[vapid idol]

Water management : I want to split it into two sectiosn, one where the water for the solution is provided by the scrap refineries, and the other section where it is supplied by pumps, i dont want to muck about connecting the two pipe systems

[vapid idol]

Ok i will try this, but it wont be that big 😦

[dense violet]

yup that diagram I linked

[dense violet]

that's not the number of refineries. Look at the diagrams. It's a ratio

[vapid idol]

will do thanks

[green fiber]

Look at the diagram
How many scrap refineries do you have. You can scale the rario any way possible

[vapid idol]

well I am producing 3360 scrap, so.. around 5 or 6

[shell sluice]

oh my god fuck the big stingers

[green fiber]

Only have 9 scrap refineries?
9/40 x 21 = 4.725 refineries that only get byproduct water

[latent prawn]

i just posted in #screenshots my solution to it

[vapid idol]

do I run them all at 250%? I cant seem to get it to work without having strange percentages

[dense violet]

clock them how you need to to match teh ratios

[green fiber]

You can run them however you like. A refinery at 250% counts as 2.5 refineries

[vapid idol]

yeah ok

[latent prawn]

without needing powershards, a sloppy alumina refinery at 75% will feed an electroscrap refinery at 100% and consume 45 freshwater + 105 wastwater = 150 water. in groups of 4 refineries, you'll process 600 bauxite into 1200 scrap, needing 180 freshwater to suplement the 420 wastewater you make.

[shell sluice]

so if you use compacted coal in coal powered gens, it burns slower bc of higher energy content?

[cyan moss]

Is 2400w enough to approach fuel power?

From coal till fuel i mean

[dense violet]

the compact coal recipe for coal generators effectively just converts 1 sulfur to 1 coal. You might as well just find more coal at that point

[prisma thicket]

If you don't go crazy with your early oil production, 2400 can get you there for sure.

[oblique aspen]

right, because gens produce constant power, so better fuels consume less (eg. burn slower), not generate more power - of course you can generate more power by putting down more gens then 🙂

[dense violet]

you can do fuel quite early yes 🙂

[shell sluice]

sems quite good if you just have unused sulfur near your coal gens though but yeah kinda location specific

[dense violet]

if you're in the grassy fields you're probably better off using that coal for steel as it's nearby. Use distant coal for power 🙂

[shell sluice]

im in desert

so sulfur locations arent great i guess

[dense violet]

they are fairly rare yeah

[prisma thicket]

which desert?

[dense violet]

dune or rock?

probably dune

[shell sluice]

dune

[dense violet]

yeah, there's two spots on the east coast that's great for coal power 🙂

[shell sluice]

yeah the coal is plentiful here its quite nice

[dense violet]

you can save the sulfur for other things later 🙂

[shell sluice]

ya i was just asking to make sure im understanding how it works

[reef basin]

eh, you can do both 🤷 it's not "add sulfur or find more coal"

if you have extra sulfur nearby, it's a nice boost of power

regardless of whether you go and find more coal or not

[hard ivy]

Generators have fixed power output (depends on clock speed but you know what I mean). So a fuel with more energy will be burned at a slower rate. You can divide the fuel's energy value by the generator's power output and you'll have a burn time in seconds.

[shell sluice]

yup i got it

thanks

just unlocked uploading items to dim depot from inventory and cant for the life of me remember how to do it, been a while since i played but isnt the new UI thing supposed to just show up in the regular inventory? doesn't seem to be there

[hard ivy]

At the bottom of the depot list, there's a field you can drop items into

[shell sluice]

what depot list

[hard ivy]

In the inventory

Oh, wait there's a button to show/hide it isn't there

[shell sluice]

maybe i need to open a built depot first for the UI to even show up in my inventory? that would be annoying because i had just enough SAM carried with me for the research and id have to go back to actually build one

[shell sluice]

thats what i remember but i dont see anything:
#screenshots message

[hard ivy]

Yeah the button's not there

You might need to upload at least 1 item for it to show up

[shell sluice]

dang lol well another trip to the sam site i guess

[silent burrow]

Has anyone ever made any Lord of the rings type looks?

[pearl walrus]

Sounds sick but how would you go about castle type rocky texture in vanilla

[oblique aspen]

you'll probably have to be more specific, like hobbiton? minas tirith? barad-dûr? very different aesthetics 😛

[leaden turret]

there's a few in https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q="references+to+other+franchises"+AND+tower, yes

[devout robin]

Does anyone know if someone has made a spreadsheet of every item needed to beat satisfactory? Like the total amount of raw materials needed to make every part? For example(using default recipes); it takes 30 iron ore per min to make 30 iron ingots per min, and 30 ingots to make 20 plates, then 30 plates to make 5 reinforced plates, so you need 50 plates per min etc. etc...
Is there anything like that out there?

[midnight fog]

probably a lot

but also if you add sloops maybe that cut it in half

[hard ivy]

Due to alt recipes, no, this is not feasible

Unless you decide how much resources are worth and minimise for "price"

[devout robin]

Yeah, I was thinking just default recipes and no sloops, that can be decided in game later (sloops but not alt recepies). I tried using Ai to make one but it was useless in this situation. I was thinking about doing it myself, it will take a while but probably doable on an excel spreadsheet

[pearl walrus]

I had the numbers noted somewhere in my world up to phase 4 i could go look if you want

Except for nuclear pasta, but the other parts

[devout robin]

Oh wow, yeah anything would be handy please and thank you

[pearl walrus]

I might have used alt recipies tho

[devout robin]

well would anyone be interested in helping me make a spreadsheet?

[pearl walrus]

Nahh, I just did phase 4 manually and ill aotomate 5 now so im not interested unfortunatey

[devout robin]

yeah all good, might do it myself and then share it here

best approach (I think) would be to make a list of the items and the amount of processes needed to creat it and then starting from the item with the most processesd working down to the basics

[pearl walrus]

Cant you just go to sf tools, type the ammount u need as per min and then just use the number it says on every resource?

[dense violet]

Also not feasible because you can make diff amount of each item per min

[dense violet]

Use Satisfactory tools to put an end parts per min of the space parts?

Takes 5 seconds

[green fiber]

You basically need to decide first how fast you wanna be done with phase 5

[pearl walrus]

This about doing it manually

[devout robin]

automate everything to the default rate for one factory?

[reef basin]

also, you need to decide what "beating SF" means

[green fiber]

That determines how many elevator parts per minute you might need, and in turn what resources those nees

[devout robin]

completing the last phase / automating everything needed to beat the last phase

[green fiber]

So one machine of each part? Sounds odd but sure, is doable.
But again, thats what online calculators are for

[pearl walrus]

Oh my bad i thiught this about doing it manually whoopsie, ye just go use sf tools totaly

[green fiber]

Reminder that for doing it manually you need to decide on this too. No matter how you calculate it

Whether you use a tool or do it by hand

[devout robin]

as in, constructors by default produce 20 plates per min, so the amount needed to make the default rate of everything else plus the 20/min of plates put aside for storage. I'm probably not explaining myself well lol

[pearl walrus]

Hahah yeah ig , i didnt bother calculating that the last time i did phase 4, i just set everything down with the exact base resources needed and then went and did other stuff till it was done.

[reef basin]

it's too generic to answer directly, go put your desired numbers into a tool that gives you the result 🙂

[dense violet]

sorry, made an error , this link https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Py26e1zbyPWO1uQLOAkP

[devout robin]

yeah I'll do that and make a document of it. lmk if you (anyone) want(s) it once im done

[dense violet]

No offence but it sounds like the result most any production planner can spit out in seconds

[devout robin]

Yeah probably, I tend to get tunnel vision with things like this 😂

[dense violet]

For example that last link shows doing 1ppm of each space part

Adjust as needed or change recipes

[hard ivy]

If you want the total number of resources/parts, you can just ignore that all calculators do math in items/min and use them as if they were doing math in individual items. Input the total number of project parts needed to complete all phases, select your recipes and increase the available resources until a solution is found. Then, increase the resources that are at 100% usage. And you get your total cost

It'll probably be easiest to do this in FactorioLab, actually, as it doesn't have resource limits or obvious floating point errors with huge plans like Tools

Also, do keep in mind that you can't have fractions of items, so the total amount needed will be more due to the need to round up at each step

Funnily enough, you can also use the in-game todo list to do this, but I don't think the information will be easy to parse when you add everything

[prisma hazel]

anyone else have their pc fans ramp to 100% on game launch? obviously that can be adjusted on my end but is there a reason why the game launches so hard spiking cpu usage?

[leaden turret]

is it just satisfactory that does that, or other games / other UE5 games ?

[plain marten]

it seems to me that alternate recipes are actually quite useless

[green fiber]

Sure, if you cant find a use

[plain marten]

every time i put them into a production planner it just becomes more complicated than without any alternate recipes

[green fiber]

So you want least complexity possible then

Most alts change what resources are used or make it more resource efficient by making it more complex

[plain marten]

yes because its easier when i dont have to get so many different resources and make so many connections in my factory

[plain marten]

are there enough resources in the map to finish the game without alternate recipes

[green fiber]

Then pick alts that skip steps.

Sometimes its also useful to swap out a resource if that one is closer to you

Like if you have caterium nearby but not copper

[plain marten]

its hard to remember all my alternate recipes and what they can skip

[green fiber]

Caterium or Iron Wire are decent examples . Though iron wire needs a lot more constructors

[green fiber]

Then look through them whenever its relevant

Open an item in the codex

That shows you if you have unlocked an alt for that item

[hard ivy]

Less resources required = less processing for those resources = less complexity

[green fiber]

The few alts i could think of that you might want is steel rotor for motors

[plain marten]

but you need more different resource types and more connections between buildings = more complexity

[green fiber]

And perhaps encased industrial Pipe. Cuts out steep beams

Or even Iron Pipe. Costs a lot more iron, but cuts out coal from making steel pipe

Just a few examples

[plain marten]

are there enough resources in the map to beat the game without any alternate recipe

[hard ivy]

Depends on the recipe

[hard ivy]

Nodes are infinite so yes

[green fiber]

Theres enough resources on the map that you cant even max them all out 100% in most cases unless you deliberatly try to go for maxed out stuff

[prisma thicket]

Most likely yes, although it will likely take a much longer time to do so since most base recipes are resource intensive, so you can't produce as much as quickly.

[plain marten]

wdym by maxing out

[green fiber]

But technically you could beat the game with just one node per resource... It will just take really long

[green fiber]

Most production per minute of parts

[plain marten]

using alternate recipes would take longer since you need to make more complex factories

[green fiber]

Depends on the alt

[hard ivy]

That's just straight up wrong lmao

[prisma thicket]

Sometimes the more complex looking factories are actually easier to set up.

[plain marten]

no its not, alternate recipes make factories more complicated

[prisma thicket]

More complicated usually means more efficient = faster.

[green fiber]

i just gave some examples if alts that you would probably want:
Iron Pipe, Steel Rotor, Encased Industrial Pipe

[plain marten]

efficiency is irrelvant

[green fiber]

Those simplify stuff a lot

[hard ivy]

That's also wrong

[plain marten]

yes and i will use only them from now on ig

[green fiber]

Give them a look if you have time

[hard ivy]

And that's wrong too

[plain marten]

i am fed up with alternate recipes

[prisma thicket]

Meanwhile I try to use as many as possible lol

[plain marten]

after it told me to get bauxite only for it to be needed to make aluminum beams which i couldve gotten from steel without having ot make a train line through half of the map for bauxite

[green fiber]

If you find and alt and arent sure if they can simplify stuff, you can ask in here

[plain marten]

no its not

[hard ivy]

I mostly use whatever tools tells me to use. It usually aligns with what I want

[prisma thicket]

Well in that case that was just a bad alternate recipe to use.

[red moth]

Someone help me learn how to water

[green fiber]

Aluminum Beam specifically is good for nuclear stuff. As then you don't need to introduce steel into the mix

[red moth]

im making advanced coal power plant. i needa learn how to water

[prisma thicket]

I put in what I want, change the machines to what I have available then go recipes and click all xD

[plain marten]

water extracotr

[green fiber]

Read the build menu info precisely.
Pipes have flow limits just like belts have item limits.

And many buildings can only push water 10m up before you need to add a pump

[red moth]

I got a water tower already so the head lift is meaningless

[plain marten]

i am the opposite, i like simplicity and i hate efficiency

[green fiber]

Only if you have pumps to push the water up into the tower

[hard ivy]

Some "efficient" recipes kinda suck, like copper rotor and default modular frame

[red moth]

check #1038092680493801533 . you'll see what i mean

[prisma hazel]

so rare on other games i couldnt tell you which ones have done it, but its almost every time on satisfactory

[plain marten]

efficiency is poison

[prisma thicket]

Efficiency is like half the point of the game lol

[leaden turret]

iirc, the two main causes of resource spikes on boot are:

• no fps cap on loading screens
• shader cachery wotsits

[plain marten]

i do everything inefficiently and i am still advancing so no its not

efficiency just makes you progress slower

[prisma thicket]

And you're progressing inefficiently

[plain marten]

if you allow things to be imperfect you can progress faster

[plain marten]

nah, i just overproduce everything and i havent ran out of resources so im doing optimally and my factories are simple

[hard ivy]

Having to gather twice as many nodes doesn't sound like it'd be faster

[plain marten]

its better than having to gather from million different nodes only for it to save a little more resources and make a huge complex factory

but you can beat the game without needing all the resources in the world

[prisma thicket]

Very slowly

[plain marten]

focusing on efficiency makes you go very slowly

its too perfectionist

designing a good enough factory is super fast compared to a 100% efficient perfect factory

[hard ivy]

Skill issue

[prisma thicket]

You play how you want to, while I don't agree with your points, you play your way and I'll play mine.

[plain marten]

indeed

[jaunty jewel]

mfw the planner wants me to use a tiny amount of oil for no reason

[hard ivy]

I just checked and if I built the factory I just built without using alts, I'd've needed more than double the machines, 2.5 to 6 times more resources, plus iron I didn't need otherwise

[jaunty jewel]

rather than efficiency i use the alts i like, simple as that

[prisma thicket]

But remember, alternates are bad because the factory is more complex

Where's a good spot with a lot of fauna? I need some quick coupons

[jaunty jewel]

swamp, titan forest, the desert cliff over by the spire coast, red forest and bamboo jungle

some crash sites there also have turbo motors to sink for lots of coupons if your earlier game

[prisma thicket]

I'd save the turbo motors, need em for mk.3 miners and I don't have them automated yet xD

[jaunty jewel]

i love turbo motors

turbo pressure motor is one of my favourite recipes

[boreal musk]

id rather save fused frame since you cant hand craft them

[prisma thicket]

I'm saving those too 😄

[trail cave]

Anyone know if 1.1 will include console release

[dense violet]

it will not.

[prisma thicket]

Console release is separate, coming later this year as far as we know.

[trail cave]

At this point I'm starting to doubt if it will ever come I wanna play it so ad but by the time it comes out on console it won't be playable

[dense violet]

... why wouldn't it be playable?

[leaden turret]

... why would it not be playable?

[leaden turret]

jinx

[trail cave]

Gta 6 lol

[dense violet]

I mean apart from controllers being ass, but that affects it now

[leaden turret]

gta 6 costing 3-4 times as much as satisfactory has no bearing on the playability of satisfactory on console

rage quitting gta 6 and defenestrating your console also has no technical bearing 😛

[mortal ginkgo]

Guys, GTA 6 coming next year so we NEED to understand and ACCEPT that all other games are DEAD.

[jaunty jewel]

theres only two things use pcc and i always make lots of fused frames soi typically have enough

[mortal ginkgo]

Other games should be legally prevetend from being released. GTA 6 is THAT important.

[jaunty jewel]

i feel like gta6 is gonna be insanely overhyped

[mortal ginkgo]

and overly priced. They will still make billions but I think people who likes satisfactory and gta 6 might be a bit different and even if not, they can play 2 games time to time 😛

[prisma hazel]

ive always enjoyed GTA stories and missions and just overall vibe, however i think it is missing some automation

[leaden turret]

discussions of gta6 / capitalism are #off-topic-general

[mortal ginkgo]

back in my amiga days GTA 1 lacked the ability to save the game

satisfactory allows you to save the game

[dense violet]

unles you're about to argue that Ficsit is a company whose shareholders are only employees capitalism is on topic 😛

[mortal ginkgo]

but yeah, enough talk about GTA6. I am pondering why my 12 Constructor Setup is so big just because I want to decorate it... Like adding Logistic Floors literally doubles the size.

[dense violet]

make it 4m deep

[leaden turret]

peons pioneers discussing capitalism is a gateway discussion to peons pioneers unionising, and is to be discouraged

[mortal ginkgo]

you could say it is. But when you add foundation space, it eventually becomes 8m. 4m wall, 2m foundation below and above

[dense violet]

foundation , 1 wall, 1m foundation

[finite latch]

see.. I said multiplayer was superfluous lol

[mortal ginkgo]

oh you mean THAT low...

[dense violet]

and one of those 1m is included in the wall

so 5m

hell, you could make it a 3m total by clipping the foundation into hte top of hte splitters

[prisma hazel]

distinct lack of copper in the rocky desert is mildly annoying

[prisma thicket]

There's enough copper, it's just spread around the outside of the area

[mortal ginkgo]

my problem as I linked to you in #screenshots is that, I want things pretty. 😔

[dense violet]

huge 😛

[jaunty jewel]

which other game talks about unionising being bad

[mortal ginkgo]

bro I know 😔

[dense violet]

#design-and-architecture message

[leaden turret]

hardspace shipbreaker

[devout robin]

Thank you, I’ll try FactorioLab for this project of mine.

[jaunty jewel]

different one

maybe similar to like portal or something or maybe im thinking of a show

[mortal ginkgo]

IS THAT.. IS THAT CLIPPING?! UTTER UNACCEPTABLE MADNESS! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[dense violet]

? you can change the limits to however much you want and you can recognize that 0.9998 is just 1

[prisma hazel]

recognising that 0.9998 is just 1 isnt efficient enough

[mortal ginkgo]

disgusting. pioneer should be fired

[prisma hazel]

@leaden turret is the Pioneer role from decent activity in this discord?

[jaunty jewel]

dont rhink so

i think its if you contribute to the game or community in some way but idk

[hard ivy]

Yeah you can change the limits but in FactorioLab you don't have to touch them at all because there are no limits. If you ask for 1100 pasta/min (because P4+P5 require 1100 total), that's gonna be a lot of resources. And it's impossible to know which one is sufficient and which one you still need to increase 100x because tools just tells you "infeasible".

And you have to round every step, because while you can make 0.5 rotors per minute, you can't make half a rotor. Plus some recipes make more than one item per cycle, so you'd have to round up to a nearest multiple of that

[prisma hazel]

can i get one for buying it again on steam because steam > EGS

[leaden turret]

secret society
#welcome

[mortal ginkgo]

In most cases, asking for a role is a good way of not getting it

[prisma hazel]

hay guise can i have admin pls im admin on many server

[mortal ginkgo]

bold move.

[prisma hazel]

one day itll work im sure of it

[mortal ginkgo]

also I am starting to getting lost in my own factory

I don't know why but its embrassing kek

[hard ivy]

Due to the dimensional depot I lost my ability to navigate my hypertube network lol

I used to know where everything is but now I don't because DD teleports all items I produce to me

[mortal ginkgo]

people got networks?

[hard ivy]

Either full tubes or launchers

[mortal ginkgo]

Madness.

[prisma hazel]

is there a guide for rail curves? like what is the ideal radius for a 90 bend on foundations

my rail would look much better than floating foundations if i had some sort of standardised system for bends

[hard ivy]

3 foundations forward and 3 foundations left/right

As long as you align both ends parallel/perpendicular to the grid, it'll be 90°

[prisma hazel]

wiki has a section on it i just found for the first time

[plain marten]

mhm but it probably wouldve taken less time and brain use to do it without alts

or just some alts

[boreal musk]

glad 1.1 remove this issue since now we can rotate rails

[surreal ingot]

I need to learn how to actually make my stuff like look good and function well

[prisma hazel]

brother ive been trying to learn that since the game came out

[surreal ingot]

Me too man lmao

[prisma hazel]

i honestly feel that playing minecraft since it released in beta, it drained all my creativity in games since

[surreal ingot]

Felt actually. Spent all day making cool stuff in Minecraft and then when create became popular

[leaden turret]

just make it look like minecraft, problem solved https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q="references to other franchises" AND "pixel art"

@void gorge since an easy way to get into Community Highlights in the past has been to make something from Final Fantasy, but @obsidian zodiac's favourite FF game is Kingdom Hearts, does that mean people should be making random disney stuff to get into CH?

[hard ivy]

ah, yes, more than double the machines in less time

[plain marten]

blueprint spamming machines is easier than having to figure out what goes where

[hard ivy]

if you do that, you'll end up with an asymmetrical curve

[hard ivy]

the output of one step goes to the input of the next?

[prisma hazel]

surely they couldve added build modes for rail in experimental

[distant hill]

That awful realization when you spend 20 minutes poking around for any mistakes... and grumble a bit because you need more uranium waste to check it... then you realize 'wait, if that's not backing up... then who cares... that's the point...'

[fast lotus]

what kind of factories do you guys prefer? To have everything in one place or have them all around in different places, to consolidate in one area using trains or so

or something else

[prisma thicket]

I make mine all over the place, and whenever I need something I run from factory to factory collecting what I need lol outside of what's in my DD anyways.

[fast lotus]

lol thats what im doing rn too. collecting mercer sphere like crazy to have as many dd as I can

[prisma thicket]

Is the power boost from multiple power augmenters additive or multiplicative?

[hard ivy]

additive

[prisma thicket]

so feeding 3 power augmenters with APMs would be a 90% increase?

[hard ivy]

yes

keep in mind the power cost of making APMs

if you don't have enough raw production, you might spend more power making them than you'll get

[prisma thicket]

Fair, not necessarily planning on doing that, just wondered if it worked that way.

[hard ivy]

that break even point is ~100 GW

[prisma thicket]

So if you're making over 100 GW you get more power from them, but if you're under it's more power to make them than the boost will give back?

[hard ivy]

depends how much power you spend exactly, but roughly, yes

[prisma thicket]

Ok, sweet. Because between the RF plant I have in mind and the Nuclear I want to set up eventually, I'll be well over 250 GW total. So 3 augmenters plus the APMs will probably be worth it eventually xD

[obsidian zodiac]

im officially tasking someone, anyone, to make a diorama of Goofy getting crushed by that boulder in KH2. it will be featured and they will be rewarded handsomely

[leaden turret]

posted to reddit with references, so no way of backing out of that now 😛

[obsidian zodiac]

IT NEEDS TO BE GOOD

[leaden turret]

tell the folks on reddit 😛 https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1kxefpi/new_cm_has_issued_a_community_highlights_diorama/

[wanton mist]

is there a cheesy way to get mercer spheres? Or do I just run around the map scoopin' 'em up?

[sinful bobcat]

First mistake

Going on Reddit

[distant hill]

The scoop method is it.

[wanton mist]

yea I figured it was a long shot. May just have to get meself a jetpack so I can woosh

[hard ivy]

advanced game settings, save editing, dupe glitches

[prisma thicket]

Gotta love scanning a hard drive and getting 2 recipes you want at once >.<

[distant hill]

Somersloop controversy... You better believe that when I needed 601.2 oil that I said "HA... no... imma sloop a machine"... cause I ain't running pipes across half the map to get 1.2 more oil.

[reef basin]

or just decrease the desired output by 0.2%

[tall lantern]

or change recipes

[distant hill]

That's the most efficient method I could use 😛

[vague gate]

1.1 came out yet?

[wanton mist]

June 10th

[vague gate]

Thanks

[tall lantern]

if only we had #announcements

[last jungle]

how/when do i get water as an item

[wanton mist]

fluid packager

[last jungle]

when

[wanton mist]

tier 6 I think

[last jungle]

alr

i dont have spelevator stage 2 completed yet

so i cant get that rn i think

[reef basin]

what do you need it for?

[last jungle]

idk i just want it

can it be inserted in coal gen?

[dense violet]

not in a package

[reef basin]

no

it's useless unless a recipe specifically asks for it

[last jungle]

ok

wait when i slide jump should i keep crouching in the air

basically hold down crouch for the entire time

[dense violet]

nah, that way you sprint when you land

[last jungle]

and that better?

[dense violet]

well that means you run faster when you land

do you want to run faster? if so, it's good

[last jungle]

so wait which is faster

[dense violet]

sprint more

[last jungle]

ok

[fast lotus]

I watched a yt video related to this, here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQhZzQX4QH4

[last jungle]

wait u can slide under conveyor belts???

thats cool

[fast lotus]

yea lol, its super fun

[last jungle]

fr

[fast lotus]

at default height it works

[last jungle]

yea

can slide jumping outrun hogs/alpha hogs?

[dense violet]

just running does I think wit hblade runners? maybe?

well not their charge

[last jungle]

yea

[devout robin]

I may be about to start something I can't finish... https://factoriolab.github.io/sfy/list?z=eJw10DkLwkAQhuF.Y5FCjAHFIoU7GQtvUVFsBA.EI0QjKPrrRb431cPOzrE7RbqLoqRWpE8RDniStkTOmcuEtJzrDd6wxDdlQY4pM5zjnXTsirMgGBrIjFCnaC97HEWfwR3pPMAz5N4HOJQzmqBP5YiRbcmvmkSrX1EUrhRXTR7EPzRnh8ZMo4-zDWO5vqBOsGJf4Vq2SOJDgWubIE-3CwuhqX3.5scy3dZeaRz.ACzafpQ_&v=11

[dense violet]

jfc, the flow chart on that app is awful

yeah definitely not suggesting to others to use this one

[hard ivy]

I didn't suggest it for the flow chart

[last jungle]

what do u guys call the checkmark guy

the one on the awesome shop

[hard ivy]

the item list is pretty decent and would've been better than any flow chart to get a total amount of items needed for project assembly

idk what RJayz is doing here

[dense violet]

yeah playing around with it. I'd rank it decently below scim

[hard ivy]

SCIM is at the very bottom because it makes mistakes and can't calculate some things

no design or features can make it rank higher than the absolute lowest

[devout robin]

yeah I'm having a hard time reading it

[dense violet]

modeler is at the bottom scraping the barrel. And yes I'm factorio lab down there

[hard ivy]

Tools > Logistics > Optimizer > Modeler > FactorioLab > SCIM imo

[devout robin]

messing around atm, seeing how I can plan out this massive factory

[reef basin]

Tools > Logistics > Optimizer > Modeler > FactorioLab > SCIM > Tools 3

[devout robin]

tools 3?

[last jungle]

what should i do with 8 coupons

[hard ivy]

ladder

[last jungle]

i have

[devout robin]

save them for the checkmark

😂

[last jungle]

oh

[devout robin]

agreed

[hard ivy]

it's exactly 8 lmao

[dense violet]

you didn't even bother looking at the link I sent you did you

[reef basin]

the new tools I'm writing that aren't finished yet

[devout robin]

Im sorry I had to go before i could check, ill have a look now

[dense violet]

#satisfactory message

[devout robin]

lol mb

[last jungle]

what are yall talking about

idk what checkmark is

idk if its a purchasable

[devout robin]

have a look in the shop, i think its with all the trophies

[devout robin]

whats the difference between tools and tools 3?

[last jungle]

wdym

[devout robin]

I was just on that website

[dense violet]

no idea what tools 3 is. Maybe a new version that's not nearly ready

[last jungle]

bro i was trying to understand and an untamed lizard doggo just came to me lol

[devout robin]

Tools first, then Tools 3 last?

[last jungle]

dog

[devout robin]

oh then thats what the confusion is then

because I have used tools before, I though tools 3 was something else?

[last jungle]

i should prob try automate modular frames

[reef basin]

the new tools I'm writing that aren't finished yet

[last jungle]

i just crafted parachute

yippee

[devout robin]

oh wow awesome!

good luck!

[wanton mist]

is there a limit to the total item amount/item type amount in the dimensional depot?

[prisma thicket]

You can have all items in the game going into the DD

[zenith pecan]

Oh wow, with the electrode scrap recipe, I can get 12300 ingots out of the 12300 bauxite (note: using sloppy & pure)

[wanton mist]

so no type limit, that's nice

[last jungle]

how do i get a sam node thats basically fully protected by 3 spore flowers

[zenith pecan]

Handy since there is enough leftover oil at the power station & the impure well in the swamp.

[last jungle]

without nobelisks and gas masks

[hard ivy]

explosives, gas mask or a lot of healing items

[wanton mist]

build from a distance?

[last jungle]

i assume that 200 paleberries will work

but i also wanna mine the node so ill assume i just need nobelisks

[devout robin]

blow up the flowers?

[devout robin]

oh nvm

[last jungle]

i dont have nobelisks but about to get

[devout robin]

eat and build a lot and fast

[last jungle]

the milestone for it 😭

[boreal musk]

u can pretty much put anything in the depot
hard limit item stack is 5
upload speed capped at 240/min, but you can put multiple depot to increase it

[prisma thicket]

That's why I always have 3-4 depots on concrete, just so I never run out 😄

[last jungle]

which one of these do i buy first #screenshots

[hard ivy]

I have 10

[last jungle]

prob conveyor or door walls

[prisma thicket]

What's something good to automate alongside basic aluminum stuff? Got a plan for a basic setup making 90 alclad sheets, 112.5 casings and 60 bottles per minute, but that's only using 300 bauxite, 30 oil and 42 copper, plus the water, I feel like I should be producing more stuff to get the most out of the bauxite node

[last jungle]

what are finishes in the awesome shop

paint?

[pearl walrus]

Idk what do you need. The question seems pointless if theres no practical use to the things you craft

[hard ivy]

batteries if you want to use them from drones but there's nothing else "basic" from aluminum

[prisma thicket]

Just stuff that's good to have on hand or in the depot I guess.

[kindred pumice]

Do someone use nuclear waste or there is another thing to do beside recycle and stockage

[prisma thicket]

Nuclear waste can only be stored or processed into other fuel rods

[boreal musk]

put the nuclear waste inside your hub so you can softlocked yourself

[last jungle]

thats pure evil

[kindred pumice]

Other option : i eat the waste

[devout robin]

flush it down the toilet

[waxen locust]

question- in 1.0 and experimental do doggo's despawn when not on platforms?

[devout robin]

( I know you can't dont kill me)

[boreal musk]

you actually can flush nuclear waste in hub

1 at the time

[kindred pumice]

Can i drink that ?

[devout robin]

WAIT YOU CAN?

[kindred pumice]

What is the flavor i wonder

[prisma thicket]

Green

[kindred pumice]

Green tea?

[devout robin]

well that's my nuclear problem solved 😂

[prisma thicket]

No, just green

[kindred pumice]

Interesting

[devout robin]

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-ninja-sensei-sensei-wu-gif-6467414812525449281

[kindred pumice]

🤣

[last jungle]

probably sour like the candy

[last jungle]

toxic waste

[devout robin]

this is the type of conversation i imagine satisfactory engineers having because the game drives them crazy

[last jungle]

real

[kindred pumice]

If someone's ex is toxic, can we say its a toxic waste ?

Okay i leave

[last jungle]

LOL FR

[devout robin]

lmao

[wanton mist]

Stack cap I can live with, but like, I can put a billion different things in it?

[devout robin]

are there a billion different items in the game?

[wanton mist]

u know what I mean XD

[last jungle]

that was an example mostly

[devout robin]

I assume you can put every item in there

[kindred pumice]

You can put your mate too

[last jungle]

i should REALLY get sam then

[kindred pumice]

And trap him forever

[prisma thicket]

I keep my spare xeno basher and rebar gun in the depot

[wanton mist]

OOO I gotta try that

[devout robin]

yeah

also i found this

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/megaprints/index/details/id/1590/name/ALL+Phases+Project+Assembly+Parts

[wanton mist]

only inconvenience I have with it is you can't access it directly when you're in the milestone submission thingy

other than that this thing is fantastic

[kindred pumice]

What is the Milestone submission

[last jungle]

i dont even have the capabilities to understand whatever this would be

[wanton mist]

hub terminal

[kindred pumice]

Ahh

[last jungle]

i am limited by myself

[prisma thicket]

Milestones and MAM would be nice to have access to the depot, but it only takes a couple seconds to pull out what you need and go back into the menu

[devout robin]

its a lot and im surprised there was someone sane enough to do it

[covert talon]

any way to get more than 7 colors in the light control switch? i dont understand why its limited

[kindred pumice]

We are all limitless as mens

[vestal mica]

tfw you don't have enough friends to hit the depot cap

[last jungle]

can my assemblers stop running out of screws bro

[kindred pumice]

No Wonder why we die soonzr

[wanton mist]

it's a fair point. At least being able to observe the dimensional dimension (?) from those would be neat, just to kinda verify you have the items kinda. IDK I'm just spitballin'

[devout robin]

yeah, us men can't multitask

[kindred pumice]

A women on satis can do the job of 5 mans

[devout robin]

it only gets worse lol

[wanton mist]

that's when you invite random people for a focus group

[kindred pumice]

We are to dumb

[last jungle]

should i try 250% overclocking my screw gen

[last jungle]

i dont have somersloops yet

[reef basin]

provide enough then

[wanton mist]

that'll be like .00000001% of what you need

[prisma thicket]

I mean you can, but why?

[last jungle]

funny

[wanton mist]

screws can go screw themselves. See what I did there?

[prisma thicket]

Need to have the belt speed to keep up

[last jungle]

yes and i wish i havent

[devout robin]

use sloop and double the output

[kindred pumice]

Sht, dont have enough batterie to keep talking after the surgery

[wanton mist]

I can't wait for 1.1 tho. Those elevators look legit

[last jungle]

which wall better concrete or steel?

[prisma thicket]

You can play 1.1 right now

[wanton mist]

concrete's way cheaper. I like how they look too

[wanton mist]

Experimental branch, yea?

[last jungle]

same, steel looks kinda like a fence so maybe i should try one day

[prisma thicket]

Yup

[last jungle]

just struggling with coupons rn

[wanton mist]

I can wait, good reason for me to step away from the computer at awkward intervals

[last jungle]

2 concrete for change is SO cheap lol

nah im not placing steel walls nah nah nah

what are "swatches"

[devout robin]

I can't wait

[devout robin]

whatever looks better in your opinion

[wanton mist]

different customizations

[last jungle]

ok

[wanton mist]

Darker, am I right in assuming you're new to Satisfactory? Fair warning, you're gonna loose a lot of sleep playing this "game"

[swift kernel]

Even after 1.1 launches, I'll have to wait for my mods to catch up to it

[waxen locust]

to expand upon this.
Swatches are colours that when you apply to a building. will only use that swatch. if you change it's colour later, that building using that swatch will also change.

If you want to avoid that. and have it painted that colour perminantly. Use the custom one

[cyan garnet]

Remember that coupons get more expensive to generate as you go, so be smart about buying resources from the shop

[waxen locust]

why bother buying resources. unless you got all the other stuff first

[wanton mist]

also you can put coupons inside the awesome sink. Figured that one out by accident XD

[cyan garnet]

Unlocking milestones faster/earlier

[waxen locust]

just automate more XD

[last jungle]

what about smth like fabric

that can only be made with mycelia (i think)

[waxen locust]

synthetic fabric from the mycelia tree.

[cyan garnet]

eg buying plastic to unlock petroleum power before you’ve done any oil production so you can do power + rubber + plastic all at once

[waxen locust]

can use polymer and water

[cyan garnet]

unlock the polymer fabric recipe in the MAM

[waxen locust]

I normally get more than enough rubber and plastic for that, from harddrive scavenging

[cyan garnet]

Yeah, same. Not suggesting anyone do this, just a thing that I’ve seen people do

[waxen locust]

oh yea- I getcha ❤️ XD

[cyan garnet]

Usually by the time I get to phase 3 I have tons of stuff stockpiled from HDD scavenging

[last jungle]

i should probably attempt to finally make steel for once

[waxen locust]

same. I also personally think the gas mask is still useless as hell. Just explode the stink rocks

[last jungle]

whats good for sinking thats not hub tier 5+

[waxen locust]

uranium ore

if you're in the grassy fields. you can head south, and there should be a cave. kill a couple spiders. and theres a uranium node in there. each ore is wirth around 35points. and just send it straight into a sink

[last jungle]

how much dps does radiation do

[waxen locust]

sorry. not south. north

[last jungle]

what start is grassy fields

[waxen locust]

the grassy one XD its kinda open.

[last jungle]

also i think ik what cave ur talking about

[waxen locust]

depends on how close you are.

[last jungle]

is it the cave with blue power slug near?

and like 2 hogs not too far

[waxen locust]

pinged you in screenshots. don't talk there tho

[last jungle]

where is that on the map

[waxen locust]

gotta wait a few seconds hold on-

check screenshots in a sec-

go to the mouse curser

[last jungle]

lemme try find that

[waxen locust]

if you're in the bottom left quarter of the map. thats the grassy fields

[last jungle]

ok i havent explored yet but ik where that is

[last jungle]

that part of the map

[waxen locust]

yea- theres a uranium node in there. just take power. pop a miner down. if you want too. overclock it. and put it straight into a sink. thats normally what i do. relly good for early game if you can spare the power

[cyan garnet]

You’ll need to drag power over there if you are going to be running a miner and a sink

[last jungle]

ill find out ig

[waxen locust]

you'll need to spare. minimum. 35mw. if you overclock or have a mk2 miner. you'll need a bit more

which. early game biofuel. thats 2 burners

[last jungle]

i found a crash site on accident

also i found a mercer sphere that was only protected by a spitter

jumped the hell outta bro

[waxen locust]

if you didn't already know. you can dismantle them once you get the harddrive, and get some bonus resources

harddrive hunting is really good to get some boosts in different areas of the game's progression.

[last jungle]

now how do i get 40 mw to this thing

[waxen locust]

like how me and bones was discussing earlier. getting plastic and rubber before automating oil. or for example. getting motors early to unlock the explorer. a car that is really good for getting around. found in the quartz tree of the m.a.m

[last jungle]

biomass burner go

[waxen locust]

I normally just pop down enough burners to get it going. once you get some computers. sam fluctuators and 10 sloops. you can just carry around a power augmenter with you instead. will save you time and effort.

[plain marten]

why do i see my train with a red outline trhough walls

[waxen locust]

possibly derailed.

[plain marten]

#screenshots message

[plain marten]

nope

[waxen locust]

dismantle and replace?

[plain marten]

i saved and loaded and its not there anymore

[waxen locust]

visual bug 🤷‍♀️

Does anyone know if the bug exists still. where if a doggo isn't on a foundation. it'll despawn?

[last jungle]

i think i have enough items im going back

2 mercer spheres

[waxen locust]

MOAR

[last jungle]

IDK WHERE

[last jungle]

plus its gonna take a while to get back

[waxen locust]

if you get the first research in the alien technology. in the m.a.m you can make an object scanner. and search for them that way-

[last jungle]

yea i have object scanner but i still dont wanna go

[waxen locust]

if you go into gameplay settings. and have the game make you keep everything when you die. you can just go into the pause menu. and hit respawn

[last jungle]

i mean get back as in get my death crate back

[waxen locust]

aaaah- oki.

meanwhile. I gotta build 300 refineries-

[last jungle]

now i scan harddrive

how scan

[waxen locust]

in the m.a.m

[last jungle]

oh

there

[waxen locust]

different recipes. require different stages in the game to unlock them

if you're gonna start steel. I recommend waiting for the solid steel recipe. by far. the best, universal recipe in the game

[last jungle]

can i still do mam research while its scanning?

[waxen locust]

nope.