satisfactory

[oak hinge]

That's not what i meant

I meant that your decimals are literally incorrect no matter how you look at them

[sullen gull]

RF plant can only provide 625MW max

A single generator that this.

[oak hinge]

I'm not american either lmao

[marble notch]

regardless

2.500MW = 2,500MW depending on where you were raised

[oak hinge]

A fuel gen produces 250MW, and a nuclear powerplant produces 2500MW, at 100% clockspeed

So that's where 10x the power comes from

[marble notch]

oh yes they were off by 100 for the fuel gens

[oak hinge]

Yes xD

[dense violet]

and the piping is much simpler since it's just 1 pipe going to 1 machine

[oak hinge]

Ehh thats arguable

[marble notch]

arguable

[boreal musk]

3500MW?

[oak hinge]

Fuel gens need way fewer pipes

[marble notch]

yeah lol the piping for nuclear can be a pain

[boreal musk]

fuel gen is 250MW

[oak hinge]

Hope it's not 25W, that'd be a pretty pathetic fuel gen

[dense violet]

people absolutely have issues with pipe manifolds
1:1 pipes are much easier to work
A fraction of the piping involved

please put down what you think is more complex

[oak hinge]

Like a dim lightbulb

[dense violet]

if this is 'arguable'

[marble notch]

im waiting for 1.1 before i start a new save, mostly because i cant bear the thought of doing nuclear gens without the 90 degree pipe build mode

again

[oak hinge]

I think the main reason people have issues with pipe manifolds is when they try to make them flow at max flowrate

Below max flowrate there shouldn't really be any possibility for issues

[dense violet]

still doesn't counter any of the rest of it.
also you can have back flow issues with mk2 pipes at 400pm

[oak hinge]

The only reason i'd argue nuclear piping can be more complex than fuel gen piping is because nuclear can just require SO MANY pipes

Where just the logistics of fitting that many pipes in a space can get tough lol

[dense violet]

NPP above the water, 1 pipe straight up

like... 20m

[oak hinge]

That's fair, if that's your layout

[marble notch]

the sheer amount of water you need to move for a decently sized nuclear plant makes it on par with building pipes for fuel gens in my opinion

[dense violet]

I mean if you want to move 10,000 water pm 1km inland thats on you 🙂

[rapid wren]

the mineral scanner is being incredibly inconsistent, often not showing loads of patches i know exactly of.

known issue?

[oak hinge]

Nah, i just want my nuclear powerplant to be nice and compact for the beltwork xd

[dense violet]

I'm not going to critisise people who want that - that's totally fair. But there's lots of things you can actively do that is much more complex
like building in circles

[marble notch]

that's a whole different kind of complex tbh

[oak hinge]

Have you tried building in triangles?

[dense violet]

yes, but it's a personal choice I actively do that makes it harder on myself. So similar in that way

I could just not build in circles, and thigns woudl be simpler and faster

[oak hinge]

Triangles can be such a pain because of that stupid pythagoras guy

[marble notch]

nuclear/fuel power is part of game progression though, you can easily play 100% of the game and never build a curve or a circle

[dense violet]

you can easily do everything with diluted fuel. And not even use that much oil.

[prisma thicket]

You can also never build nuclear power

[marble notch]

smh game nevs need to start using spherical geometry like Dyson Sphere Program so we can build 90-90-90 triangles

[oak hinge]

Rather do chebyshev spaces like Minecraft

[sullen gull]

Outside of creating a bit of uranium fuel rods, but you could also play the game without ever creating a nuke plant.

[dense violet]

it's true 🙂 but we were comparing needing that much power and the vaste ugly fields of generators needed with fuel

[marble notch]

building triangles at a large scale in minecraft suckssssss tho

circles are fun

[oak hinge]

Triangles in minecraft are so easy wdym

The hard part in Minecraft is making designs symmetrical in all 4 directions without making them swastikas xD

[marble notch]

they're not too hard to physically put together but in terms of final visual presentation they always cause issues because of the discrete chunks in the angles

they only really work well at very large scales in my experience

[oak hinge]

Ah, fair ig

[prisma thicket]

I'll take the vast ugly fields of fuel gens over the headache of producing fuel rods and processing the waste any day lol

[dense violet]

yeah made some cool underwater domes ages back

[oak hinge]

I don't remember the last time i did something that wasn't very large scale in minecraft or satisfactory so idk lol

[dense violet]

the base recipes are ... extremely simple

[oak hinge]

I'm probably not the best person to talk to about that lmao

[sullen gull]

If only you could pump water out of them

[dense violet]

not disimilar to HMFs honestly.

[marble notch]

beating the game without nuclear is crazy tbh, putting together my first uranium fuel line felt like a huge milestone because it requires basically all of the techniques and buildings you learn from the rest of the game up to that point

(assuming default recipes ofc)

[dense violet]

you can build very modestly

[oak hinge]

You can very much beat the game without nuclear, with just rocket fuel it's VERY doable

Esp with alien power augmenters

[azure swan]

You could beat the game w coal if you really wanted to.

[oak hinge]

Well yes but it'd take a billion years

[coarse geode]

my belts just randomly stop working, how fun

now theres actually no way to transport ressources but by hand

[oak hinge]

Meanwhile i'm here building a 90GW fuelgen plant just to have enough power to jumpstart my nuclear xD

Just diluted fuel as well lol

[dense violet]

as in items on the belt stop moving? that means there's a throughput issue

[coarse geode]

its justs stops transporting items completely

[dense violet]

well, yet again, post some over head shots of the belt works and the machiens in a #1038092680493801533 post

[trim vine]

When you math, and count everything down to a T, and then you have a whole extra 780 belt before you even turn it on

0______________0

No, 2 extra 780 belts

Chat, I am cooked

[dense violet]

ok?

[sullen gull]

Oop, gotta start a new save now ... dang.

[trim vine]

Guys, @coarse geode is trolling, he was doing it the other day with trains and trucks too 😛

[trim vine]

Nah, gonna just turn on the aluminium plant and I'll see where the problem is soon enough

[trim vine]

ALL THE SINKS!

[sullen gull]

heh

[dense violet]

so far all they've done on the server is complain X is broken/bugged, thing they were doing isn't working ect, but refuse to actually do anything towards fixing it

[trim vine]

<@&387163995947270144> Y'all got a troll tag for @coarse geode?

[sacred summit]

Maybe I'm jaded and cynical at my ripe old age, but that sounds a lot like "par for the course" when dealing with humans in 2025. 😅

[dense violet]

shrug some people just want to complain and not try to fix things I suppose

[trim vine]

-starts waving the American flag around aggressively-

[sacred summit]

At least we've got a Big Beautiful Bill... 😮‍💨

[dense violet]

biggest and most beautiful right?

[sacred summit]

Everyone's saying it. I'm not saying it, but everyone tells me it's the biggest and most beautiful bill in all of history, maybe forever. But definitely probably forever.

[sullen gull]

🤦‍♂️

[sacred summit]

Love him or hate him, the man is a orator for the ages 🤣

[dense violet]

I don't understand how that sort of language isn't interpreted as the decaying brain of a senile old man

[sacred summit]

A more serious answer, beacuse that grandiose speaking is how he's always been.

I mean it's dialed a bit given the audience and platform, but... yeah, that's just him.

[dense violet]

I've seen interviews from the 90s, he's definitely lost it

[sullen gull]

More like spouting BS. But I need to digress and go build something before I can't shut up 😏

[dense violet]

he wasn't ever a great speaker, but not deranged and rambling like this

[leaden turret]

looks at name of channel

[sacred summit]

Time to go set up some more mining operations and drill, baby, drill.

[dense violet]

into people's skulls?

[sacred summit]

That's true. In all seriousness, I think there's a notable difference even between last time and this time.

[dense violet]

8 years is a long time for degredation to work is magic xD

[sacred summit]

Touche.

To try and hlep steer back on topic, I am now coming across the first useful instance of having an alt recipe, so go me!

[dense violet]

you can very early on come across that xD

[sacred summit]

With the right ones, I don't doubt it. But up until now, it was very unnecessary for me and my limited alt recipes. "Six of one, half a dozen of the other" situation

[dense violet]

cast screws early on means you skip a whole step

[oak hinge]

Steel screws are such a lifesaver sometimes

[dense violet]

encased pipe is very solid early on, solid steel ect

[sacred summit]

Yeah, I've heard everyone sing that one's praises. (The cast screws)

[oak hinge]

Isn't encased industrial pipe very good even later on?

[boreal musk]

cast screw is useful early game, to cut power cost when making rotor and reinforced plates

[sacred summit]

Copper Alloy Ingot is making the difference between me being able to be self-sufficient on-site with my single, impure copper alloy deposit, versus having to ship it in.

[dense violet]

most recipes don't have a shelf life. 🙂

most

[boreal musk]

i always use encased pipes when making hmf bcs it simplifies the production line and its cheaper than beam

[oak hinge]

Bolted iron plate + cast screw is SUCH a good combo sometimes

Adhered iron plate is also very very nice

But only later on

[dense violet]

Never really got the feel for adhered. Even if doing Coke Steel

Even with Recycled rubber still seems expensive

[oak hinge]

Ig that is somewhat specific, but for me it's been super useful

[dense violet]

I think I'd always go Bolted plaste + steel screw.
I'll be making steel anyway and steel is cheap

[oak hinge]

Because what i do is i do fuel power with diluted fuel, and then nuclear, which means i can reroute all of the fuel from fuel power to rubber / plastic recycling

Which means i always have an obscene amount of extra plastic and rubber

[sacred summit]

Bolted iron plate... just for the wattage right? It looks like it's a decrease in input-to-output ratio.

[oak hinge]

Yes

[dense violet]

yeah it's slightly more resource consuming, but the output is great

[oak hinge]

It's also VERY space-efficient

So if you have extra iron and just need some reinforced plates it's the way to go

[jovial oracle]

If I put a Mark 2 Miner on a pure coal node, it will extract 240 coal ores per minute, right?

[dense violet]

#math-and-meta message

[dense violet]

!wikisearch miner

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=miner

[jovial oracle]

Got it, thanks.

[oak hinge]

Steel screw + bolted frame + bolted plate yep

[dense violet]

fed on a sushi belt with that one 😄

[oak hinge]

Oh god

Not the sushi belts

[dense violet]

comes in bottom right, then moves behind the machines nad up

[jovial oracle]

Just a question before I hurt myself: Will I damage myself if I randomly come across an uranium node due to radiation?

[dense violet]

yes

[jovial oracle]

Ok.

[dense violet]

but not much uness you mine it

or stand right on top

[sullen gull]

Or stand right on top

[jovial oracle]

Does putting a miner on it stop the radiation?

[sullen gull]

ahh, beat me lol

[dense violet]

no

plus I think most urnaium nodes have small deposits around that the only way to remove is hand mining

[sullen gull]

And any trains/drones carrying will be radioactive

[jovial oracle]

Besides the character, will the radiation damage anything else? Like eletrical, mechanical, etc.

[sullen gull]

No

[dense violet]

nope

[jovial oracle]

Alright.

[merry kettle]

Uranium in the wild generally doesn't damage you that quickly, you have plenty of time to get away from it

[dense violet]

basically something you can completely avoid early on until you need uranium for production

[jovial oracle]

I'm asking that question cause Chernobyl made me question things, lol.

[merry kettle]

I think there is one cave I encountered that had sufficient radiation that it became a problem, and it's in a fairly advanced area

[jovial oracle]

I mean, as far as I know, you only need uranium for the nuclear power plants(?)

[dense violet]

and some bombs

[merry kettle]

And the best nobelisks

[jovial oracle]

Ah~

[dense violet]

'best'

[jovial oracle]

Right, nuclear deterrents.

[sullen gull]

The dang ninnys put a sommersloop under some 😠

[oak hinge]

Explosive rebar > any nobelisk

[merry kettle]

lol, in three or four locations

[oak hinge]

Also gas nobelisks are the best nobelisks IMO

[jovial oracle]

Imma go research my first nobelisk and blow up the poison spores near my base, brb.

[oak hinge]

Explosive rebar is so good

[sullen gull]

Oh really? I only remember the one cause I died like three times trying to find it early on 🤣

[jovial oracle]

How much damage do you take from the simplest nobelisk if you stand right beside/over it? (I don't wanna kill myself).

[dense violet]

!wikisearch nobelisk

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=nobelisk

[sullen gull]

Enough where you may not want to do it twice 🙂

[dense violet]

praise the wiki, love the wiki

[merry kettle]

There are two uranium deposits that have somersloops -inside- them, one in said radioactive cave (and I think you have to mine the uranium to get through one spot), and also one or two deep in the middle of a bunch of random uranium deposits.

[jovial oracle]

Hold up, according to y'all conversations.

Is uranium limited???

[oak hinge]

All resources are

[dense violet]

no

[oak hinge]

Throughput-wise yes, in total no

[dense violet]

nodes are infinite in use
limited nodes

[oak hinge]

All resources are limited throughput-wise

[sacred summit]

In the "maximum amount you can possibly draw on the map at one time," I suppose it is

[oak hinge]

^

[jovial oracle]

The nodes, dear Sirs. The nodes.

[merry kettle]

However, there are one-use deposits scattered throughout the world

[oak hinge]

The map is hand-crafted and finite, so yes

The map isn't procedural or infinite

[merry kettle]

Which, as far as I can tell, exist entirely to make you mine them before you can build on them.

[oak hinge]

There's a finite amount of all materials

Water is the only one that's close to unlimited

[jovial oracle]

Why does wiki say exhaustible resource nodes for the uranium? I am confused.

[oak hinge]

Good question, i don't know lmao

[dense violet]

those are the deposits

[merry kettle]

"Uranium can be harvested by hand (default E) in trace amounts from resource deposits scattered across the world, or from inexhaustible resource nodes on which Miners can be constructed to extract automatically. "

[oak hinge]

Ohhh right

That makes sense

[dense violet]

inexhaustible

[jovial oracle]

That doesn't make sense to me, please help me understand.

[dense violet]

it says inexhaustible

[jovial oracle]

My English is on a vacation right now.

[merry kettle]

Inexhaustible means the miner will generate resources until the heat death of the universe

[sullen gull]

Means the Can't be depleted.

[oak hinge]

There's like small rocks of uranium that you can break by hand, which are limited, and then there's the nodes xD

[oak hinge]

Or until the power goes out, whichever comes first

[jovial oracle]

Oh, the ones that say temp on the map?

[sullen gull]

It's an over complicated way of saying infinite imo 😛

[dense violet]

no, that just means there's a group of nodes in a spot

[oak hinge]

Yeah

[jovial oracle]

Jesus Christ.

[oak hinge]

The rocks are just random ones you can find

They don't show up on the map

[jovial oracle]

Additionally, Lizard Doggos will occasionally bring it when tamed.

😭😭😭😭

[oak hinge]

Yeah that's uh don't rely on that

[dense violet]

doggos can bring just about anything

[merry kettle]

Lizard doggos don't bring uranium anymore, I don't think?

[oak hinge]

Also can i just point out something

[jovial oracle]

I don't want my doggo to turn into a hulk bro

[sullen gull]

Don't know, but they still bring nukes! 🤣

[oak hinge]

I find it INCREDIBLY funny how theoretically the maximum amount of resources that you can possibly get is by having as many players as possible manually emptying the tiny starter mining drills into chests

Because you can put as many of those per resource patch as you want

[dense violet]

*almost as many

[jovial oracle]

Alright, lemme go and blow up some stuffs.

[sullen gull]

Yeah, but can't you technically only have 4 (maybe 10) on a server?

[oak hinge]

Well yes, but you can get WAY more production than one fully OCd mk3 miner with one patch from them lmao

It's so funny

The optimal solution to maximizing the amount of produced items per minute in the game is to constantly empty out drills as fast as possible

[lime ermine]

Do a run where all your materials come from your doggos.

[oak hinge]

No

[merry kettle]

Supposedly there's an infinite resource bug in experimental right now using miners and blueprints, but I haven't tested it.

[lime ermine]

It's called miners give infinite resources

It's a game feature

This is a joke btw

[merry kettle]

I should start a new map. I really want to do a pure factory cart transport run.

[jovial oracle]

I now know why you all love nobelisks

Thank God I have enough sulfur

[swift kernel]

What, did you go to red forest or something?

[dusky relic]

No longer true

[merry kettle]

If you don't go all the way to automating nobelisk production, I do recommend at least putting a dimensional depot on a sulfur and coal deposit

[dusky relic]

It's been replaced with the nuke obelisk

[jovial oracle]

No, the hell is the red forest?

[merry kettle]

The red forest is !!FUN!!

[swift kernel]

You sweet summer child

I went one time with a random online buddy

We didn't come back the same

[jovial oracle]

I'm currently using the nobelisks to destroy poisonous spores.

[dusky relic]

The red forest is red because it's the gates of hell

[oak hinge]

The red forest is super chill IMO

[swift kernel]

We almost didn't come back period

[swift kernel]

Okay show off

[dusky relic]

The swamp is also horrid

[sacred summit]

FICSIT has no responsibility for personal injuries sustained while participating in "!!FUN!!"

[swift kernel]

Nah, you can just drive through it

[oak hinge]

Like unironically its WAY more chill than the lower levels of the titan forest right next to it

[dusky relic]

The toxic spires would beg to differ

[swift kernel]

Okay, let me rephrase that. I drove through it no problem

[zenith pecan]

The swamp isn't so bad once you drop enough nukes and build it up, just be prepared to add lots of lights because it's pitch dark at night.

[dusky relic]

I'd love that

[swift kernel]

I wouldn't be able to do that in the red forest, which makes it scarier

[boreal musk]

i find titan forest far more dangerous than red forest

[oak hinge]

^

[merry kettle]

The swamp is the only place I ever installed outdoor lights, lol

[oak hinge]

Titan forest is SO MUCH worse than red forest

[dusky relic]

With bombs you can

[jovial oracle]

Y'all are intriguing my curiosity, I now wanna go to the Red Forest. Deaths are on me, of course.

[swift kernel]

Wait, shit, I don't know where Titan forest

[jovial oracle]

Where do I head?

[boreal musk]

titan forest is place with big trees

[jovial oracle]

The general direction on the compass, that is.

[merry kettle]

The red forest is east-central

[swift kernel]

Literally the middle of the map. On the highest mountains

Don't bring anything you don't mind losing

Just run straight through

[jovial oracle]

Alright, do I need blade runners for jumping or is without enough for terrain traversal?

[oak hinge]

If you're in the grasslands, then to the north you should see a massive cliff face, it's up that

[swift kernel]

You'll need Blade Runners for a completely different reason

[oak hinge]

^

[boreal musk]

its easy to spot red forest, they have red trees

[merry kettle]

Blade runners won't necessarily help, it depends on what you run into.

[jovial oracle]

I wish you could go up the Space Elevator and literally parachute/paraglide to places.

[sullen gull]

Buy a ladder 😏

[swift kernel]

I'd rather be caught with blade runners than without though

[swift kernel]

Report back to us

I'm looking forward to it

[sullen gull]

There may or may not be an achievement for achieving height as well.

[jovial oracle]

I tried, A LOT, to get up the thing but I don't seem to find any way.

[merry kettle]

Ladders are super-helpful, especially if you've unlocked dimensional depots

[sullen gull]

Buy ladder, have DD for 'unlimited' rods, zoop to the sky... a lot ... lol

[jovial oracle]

I just noticed we have B2 bombers in the game.

They just don't bomb anything.

[dense violet]

it generally launches you to death

[sullen gull]

Oh, and while's your up there, pet that bomber 😏

[jovial oracle]

How tf do you get up on that thing lmaoo

Wait

[swift kernel]

Build a sky ladder

[sullen gull]

Ladder or foundations

[jovial oracle]

Doesn't the game have a jetpack?

[prisma thicket]

I find it easier to get on the one in the Spire Canyon, there's a few points where it gets real close to some climbable outcrops.

[sullen gull]

Don't recall what tier atm

[jovial oracle]

5

[swift kernel]

You can ladder up one of the stone arcs and climb that

[boreal musk]

40 rods is enough, zoop 2 ladder, deconstruct the bottom one, repeat

you can do it without stopping if you knew the timing

[merry kettle]

De... construct? My precious ladders?

[sullen gull]

Lol, I mean, I guess. I just found it easiest to have rods going into a dd, hit the mark or jump on the back/pet, then parachute down and hold ctrl on everything on the way down

[merry kettle]

If you leave your ladders you know areas you've already checked/searched for stuff.

[boreal musk]

not really, if youre really high up, you wont be able to deconstruct the most bottom one if youre going to parachute to other side

[sullen gull]

Even in the game I seem to get a bit of vertigo when up super high lol. It's sad.

[boreal musk]

map marker exist btw

[sullen gull]

Hold ctrl till hit 50, deconstruct, repeat. If there are that many.

[jovial oracle]

I think I fell down into a Stinger nest.

[sullen gull]

Oh, no, no random ladder/foundations hanging about ... Nuh huh.

[swift kernel]

Criminal

[swift kernel]

That sounds about right

[sullen gull]

^ The Law

[jovial oracle]

Bro, its so big

Wtfff

[swift kernel]

Welcome to the Red Forest

[sullen gull]

That;s what...... never mind

[jovial oracle]

WHY DO THEY JUMP WTFFFFF

BROOO

[swift kernel]

I love hazing the new players

[sullen gull]

Welcome to CSS's hell imo 🤣

[jovial oracle]

I DONT WANNA PLAY THIS GAME

[merry kettle]

The spiders aren't even the worst.

[dense violet]

have you researched all the MAM stuff yet? you really need it for exploring

[boreal musk]

no it doesnt matter, like i said, if youre really high up, your build gun wont be able to reach the most bottom ladder to deconstruct it, its the same as falling down again just to deconstruct it, so i find doing 2 ladder and deconstruct the bottom one and repeat it much simple approach and i can just explore the map easily with parachute

[sullen gull]

Like, I was never afraid of spiders, until this damn game lol

[jovial oracle]

HOW DO I GET OUT OF HERE PLEASE

[swift kernel]

The Stingers were like the first thing they finished. The guy who made them left the company a long time ago

[jovial oracle]

I FELL DOWN A CAVE 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[mortal ginkgo]

Thats the fun part, you dont 😄

[swift kernel]

I mean, death is an escape

[mortal ginkgo]

Never.

[merry kettle]

Build a safe room, and then slowly build your way out

[sullen gull]

I'm not trying to decontruct. I just float down on the parachute, highlihting everything as I go down and eventually land at/near where I started...

[jovial oracle]

Oh, I found a SAM node.

[swift kernel]

I just love that whoever made the Stingers was like.. my work here is done and left a legacy that will last a life time

[swift kernel]

See, you get rewarded for your bravery

[boreal musk]

should bring that person back to make a nuclear stinger

[swift kernel]

I'm sure they could do it. The most important thing was the base model and the movement.

[jovial oracle]

WHAT ARE THOSE LEG THINGS BRO

[swift kernel]

The way the Stingers move is 100% why I think my brain finds them so scary

[merry kettle]

If we're going that route, winged stingers that fire projectiles at you.

[swift kernel]

I don't even know what you're talking about now

[jovial oracle]

THE ONES THAT SPEW ACID

WHY THEY NO DIE

IM OUT OF BOMBS

[swift kernel]

Stingers? We talking about stingers?

[swift kernel]

RIP in peace

[merry kettle]

I think the tall guys that emit poison

[jovial oracle]

no they look blue

they stand up

they look like creepy flowers

[swift kernel]

Ohhhhh, yeah, I just encountered them for the first time the other day

[boreal musk]

high opportunity to add depleted uranium for uranium ammo casing 🙂

[jovial oracle]

WDYM FIRST TIME MAN

[merry kettle]

I think he's probably met what the wiki calls "beetles"

[jovial oracle]

IM DYING OUT HERE

MOTHERRRRRR

[swift kernel]

I can't believe I've been playing since alpha and never knew beetles were in the game

[boreal musk]

also imo stinger is easier to deal on land than alpha hogs

much much easier

[swift kernel]

Goes to show you how much stingers have kept me from exploring the map lol

[sullen gull]

Beetles? What beetles>

[merry kettle]

I don't think beetles do damage, although they look like they do?

[boreal musk]

thats friendly

the cool aid guy

[swift kernel]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Beetle

[sullen gull]

OOOhhh, the sneezers

lol

[jovial oracle]

Nah bro, I need music to boost my morale. Otherwise, I'm gonna die from a heart attack.

My BP is through the roof.

[merry kettle]

Hey, just be glad it isn't april 1st.

[swift kernel]

This is good cardio right?

[swift kernel]

What happens to them on april 1st?

[jovial oracle]

I already got 300 SAMs, I'm getting out of here.

[swift kernel]

I've never seen stingers on april 1st

[merry kettle]

Nothing, but hogs become tiny and very hard to hit

[sullen gull]

Psshh, try turning them into cats .... I feel that's worse! 😏

[swift kernel]

I love how the lizard doggo size just completely clips through the enclosure I have for them

They just completely engulf a part of my factory nearby

[jovial oracle]

I AM FINALLY OUT

[merry kettle]

Time to prepare and go back in so you can set up a miner on that SAM node you found!

[sullen gull]

I can't bring myself to tame any this save. I always seems to forget about them 😒

[boreal musk]

i actually need to tame some doggo for achievement

[jovial oracle]

Yeah, I need some bombs first and logistic materials so that I can extract the damn thing 500 meters above, lol.

[sullen gull]

Orange Lizard looking things. Throw a paleberry.

[sullen gull]

Under a giant arch?

[boreal musk]

ik

[sullen gull]

Or was this in the red forrest?

[swift kernel]

Congratulations!

[jovial oracle]

Yes.

With a purple power slug at the top.

[sullen gull]

Heh, before I knew of the infinite lift trick, I have lifts zigzagged every which way bringing sam out of there lol.

[jovial oracle]

Bro

I fell down from a cliff

And died

At the very south of the map

[sullen gull]

That'll happen. Careful on the trek back for your shiz.

[jovial oracle]

Like into the pit border or something

[swift kernel]

Thank Patch 6 everyone for fixing this bug "Stingers can no longer get stuck on the Pioneers head"

[jovial oracle]

😃??????

[swift kernel]

Infinite lift trick seriously makes that SAM much easier to mine

[jovial oracle]

I'm gonna have to keep my Holy Book beside me while I go into a cave.

Damn spiders give me anxiety attacks.

[swift kernel]

It won't help you

[jovial oracle]

SHUT UP

[swift kernel]

God cannot save you from what he has abandoned

[jovial oracle]

.<

[fiery escarp]

THE TOWER HAS BEGUN

[elder apex]

you call it a holy book, the rest of us call if the Ficsit Employee Handbook

[jovial oracle]

I'm sweating like hell right now, my God.

The Lord has witness what I witnessed today.

May He grant me strength.

And nobelisks.

Definitely nobelisks.

[swift kernel]

Yeah, whatever your nobelisk production is right now? Try doubling it. You're gonna need it

[sullen gull]

Afaik though, isn't there a 'couple' of exits from there? one out to the abyss, and one on to a plateau just south of that iirc.

[swift kernel]

What are you talking about?

I thought we were talking about the SAM from Strange Alien Spire

[jovial oracle]

Not yet, I need to find a sulfur node. Preferably a pure one.

Along with a quartz node.

[sullen gull]

From that cave under the arch. in the grasslands. Assuming that's where they were.

goes back to drinkin and building

[swift kernel]

No, they're talking about the one near red forest

[jovial oracle]

No no, I am actually talking about the cave under the arch.

After what I just saw in the cave, I have no intention whatsoever in going to the red forest.

Yet.

[swift kernel]

Lol wait, you didn't even go to red forest that whole time?

AHAHAHAHA

[sullen gull]

One of these saves, I really should try to challenge myself to No jetpack and no Hoverpack (definitely the latter)

[sullen gull]

Yeah, they mentioned being in a cave with sam, and then off a cliff all the way south ... 🤷‍♂️

[swift kernel]

I can't find my screenshot photos

Where do the photos in photomode default to? Does anyone know?

[jovial oracle]

No man, do you think I want to shiz my pants

[sullen gull]

Oh, game folder

[jovial oracle]

I am surprised you could make the encased industrial beam at the crafting bench, lmao.

[swift kernel]

Yeah, I looked in FactoryGame, I didn't see it

[sullen gull]

C:\Users\denki\AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\Screenshots\Windows

Obviously the obvious stuff is different, But they are in the Saved folder of the FactoryGame folder.

[swift kernel]

Yeah.. I just followed that (ty, btw) but not seeing the "Screenshots" folder

I'll keep hunting

[sullen gull]

Well, in the game, there is a button to "Open Folder" as well

[swift kernel]

Wait, really? Where?

[elder apex]

#faq message

[jovial oracle]

I just unlocked the hypertube.

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

Hit Tab to bring up the Settings.

[swift kernel]

Oh, that's 1.1

[sullen gull]

Er, is the FAQ wrong or did I somehow change something? Because my screenshots have always seemed to be in my game folder.

[jovial oracle]

Yo, I can research the Dimensional Depot.

[sullen gull]

Oh ... Lol. my bad.

[jovial oracle]

How do I use the Dimensional Depot?

Like, how does it work?

[sacred summit]

The Zipline seems so cool, and simultaneously so worthless 🤣 🤣 🤣

[swift kernel]

So, I think I found the original background video for Satisfactory. I think this was back in alpha

[stuck dagger]

You build an Uploader, belt stuff in and then you can grab them into your inventory wherever

[swift kernel]

If anyone is interested in the video I found in the game files #streams-and-videos message

[jovial oracle]

So I need to make 2 depots in order to make it work?

[swift kernel]

Nope. Just one

[stuck dagger]

At least 1

[swift kernel]

You can pull things out of the depot in your inventory

[stuck dagger]

It's not a teleport-item-anywhere kind of thing

[jovial oracle]

Ah~

[swift kernel]

Instant teleportation to you. Nowhere else

[stuck dagger]

There's only belt input

[sullen gull]

Funny enough, that's pretty damn serene lol .

[jovial oracle]

Then I can just use the depot in the cave for the SAM node, for the time being.

[swift kernel]

I kinda wish it was the background video again

[swift kernel]

You can only upload so much though

[sullen gull]

Hack the Planet! 😏

[jovial oracle]

What's the initial capacity?

[stuck dagger]

There's a limit of 1 stack at first iirc

Later upgrades increase it to 5 stacks

There's also upload speed upgrades but they don't matter much to me

[jovial oracle]

Alright.

[frail sleet]

main use is climbing cliffs before jetpack

[swift kernel]

Well I found my blueprints, I found my mod folder, I've found everything BUT my photos

[sacred summit]

IMO, only if you have the meta knowledge to know it's there and how to get it that early. As a new player (who went in blind), I just unlocked it, and I'm working on Tier 5/6.

[frail sleet]

I think you're supposed to unlock that kind of stuff earlier. I went in 0 knowledge with a friend and he unlocked it as well as the blade runners etc during t2/t3

maybe people don't if they are brand new, but they are not really gated off in any significant way

i ignored the MAM for a while to avoid information overload personally

[sacred summit]

Yeah, blade runners we've had for some time now. But I feel like with this one being behind a ore that you can't even scan until T5/6, you have to either know it, stumble across it, or go specifically out of your way to look for it.

[sacred summit]

Totally get that.

[swift kernel]

Fuck it, I give up

I'll find them when 1.1 drops and my mods all get updated

[frail sleet]

There are little bits of ore rocks scattered all over the world with those resources, pretty sure we just mined one of those and then it unlocks the research tree in the MAM and shows what you're missing.

Zipline is a one-time cost thing and not a continuous upkeep too

but yes i agree it can be hard to get the right stuff at the right time as a brand new player 😛

[sullen gull]

You checked the directory from the faq too yeah?

[swift kernel]

Of course

I found like three different instances of FactoryGame

none of them had screenshots

One had mods, another had blueprints... idk

[dense violet]

have you been uninstalling and reinstalling?

[swift kernel]

I've been trying to use a different different harddrive as my main storage drive for a while, so I want everything to go to D Drive instead of C Drive

But sometimes with automatic save stuff like this, I just can't track it down

[dense violet]

well somethings will always go do C:\users\documents ect ect

[swift kernel]

I know, I checked there

It's fine.

[whole zinc]

hi i had questions

[swift kernel]

It's not a big deal

[elder apex]

worst case you can always use the OS find utility to search for pictures made in the last X minutes

[whole zinc]

is there a way to get rid of those big rocks

the keep getting in the way of my build 🙏

[dense violet]

some rocks can be blown apart with explosives

but only really the spherical ones with cracks

[whole zinc]

ahh icic

[merry kettle]

Some non-cracked rocks can be blown up as well, but mostly those are smaller

[whole zinc]

yikes so the ones in #screenshots probably can't be blown up?

[merry kettle]

Yeah probably not

It's often worth trying anyways, sometimes things blow up I wasn't expecting to be able to blow up

[whole zinc]

time to relocate again kjsdkfljsd

[whole zinc]

im not at that stage of the gameplay yet so ill just need to find my way around it ig

[whole zinc]

i actually had one more question if possible

[dense violet]

no

[dense violet]

almost all the space can be build on if you just make somewhat thick foundations, or build in floors

remember, 3d game, you can build up

[whole zinc]

in my first base, when i placed down a miner on top of a platform it managed to be placed in the middle, but now the new one i placed on a platform on top of limestone is ever so slightly off center

[boreal musk]

appdata > local > factorygame > saved > screenshots > windows (for me)

[dense violet]

nodes aren't on the world grid if you're using it

[whole zinc]

i mean i was thinking about using thicker foundation but i thought that made the miners unable to be placed down

[whole zinc]

im sorry but whats a world grid 🙏

[dense violet]

maximum thickness they'll still snap yes

[swift kernel]

Appreciate it, but already checked there

[swift kernel]

[dense violet]

you can snap foundations to a grid that set around the whole world. It's a design trap tbh

[boreal musk]

have u checked %USERPROFILE%\Documents\My Games\FactoryGame\Screenshots ?

[swift kernel]

You say a design trap, I say great training wheels to use as a base

[swift kernel]

Yes

[dense violet]

why? you don't need foundations linked up for starter bases either

[whole zinc]

oh shoot icic

[swift kernel]

Because roads for tractors

You don't need them. But it's nice

[dense violet]

again something that doesn't need a WG in any way, even if you want foundations between every point there are trivial methods of hooking them up

[whole zinc]

also are the mobs glitched in this game or something

[dense violet]

in what way?

[whole zinc]

every now and then i see a lizard doggo or this fat whale thing just stuck

this whale thing has been sitting in one spot for like basically the entire time ive been setting up base in that spot

[dense violet]

they'll despawn if they get too far from their point
oh the whale things tend to get a bit stuck in scenery sometimes

happens more often in bases with built objects.

fairly rare on natural terrain

[whole zinc]

on rocks though?

#screenshots

[dense violet]

I did say rare in natural terrain 😛 not impossible

I imagine their interactions are extremely low on the 'to fix' list

[whole zinc]

lmaoo okok

[dense violet]

to get them out of your base you usually ahve to dismantle the thing they are stuck on then boop them.

[whole zinc]

for now at least im just trying to find a way to make everything automated without it looking like a spider web 😭

[dense violet]

have you unlocked coal power yet?

[whole zinc]

aha okok thank yous

[whole zinc]

not yet im still running on biomass 🙏

[dense violet]

you're in the pre tutorial - don't worry about the mess 🙂

it's pretty common for people to rip everything up after they get automated power going

[whole zinc]

aha alright thank you haha

[dense violet]

biggest piece of advice for the game - just keep progressing and learn with every factory.
if you build a thing and then think you could have done 10 things better? totally normal. Use that knowledge for your next factory 🙂

[sullen gull]

Sorry, maybe a dumb question, but, it's been a night, ... The headlift on an output, of say a blender, basically starts 2m up from the base right?

I.e The center of the port?

Lol, dang it Cobalt, at least let me react, I only ever react positive! 😏

❤️ u

[whole zinc]

aha thank you thank you

[swift kernel]

I love how derpy they are

[whole zinc]

i thought they were some kind of elephants at first

[dense violet]

I think in the wiki they are called 'space whale tick penguin thing'

[whole zinc]

but their texture is a whale, their feets are like a hook and their head is like a bird

[sullen gull]

GiraffeAlieaphants

[whole zinc]

wow seriosuly giraffes?

hmmmm

[whole zinc]

penguin ? 🐧

[sullen gull]

Lol, idfk I just make up names for the these creatures.

[dense violet]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Space_Giraffe-Tick-Penguin-Whale_Thing

probalby the beak

[sullen gull]

Ahh hah, Answer is E All of the above 😏

[whole zinc]

ahh yes i see now

[dense violet]

although it looks more like a tiny elephant trunk to me

[whole zinc]

ooo

omg i just heard one of the announcer voicelines

[dense violet]

get used to it

[whole zinc]

and i am so interested in this game's lore

[dense violet]

sadly the lore is fairly light. Experience it as a pleasant background thing.

[whole zinc]

it told us that our memories about families and friends were irrelevant and that they are some error 🙏

[whole zinc]

yea i heard thers going to be a story mode released soon?

[boreal musk]

the lore is just the side dish

[dense violet]

not that I've heard. afaik they were originally going to make a proper thorough story but got too much and they hacked it down a lot

[whole zinc]

oh 😭 😭

thats a bit dissapointing

also i just decided not to use foundations for my base rn

[dense violet]

but if you have a vid link of devs talking about it feel free to link, I don't keep track of thigns that hard

[dense violet]

pre coal it's fairly normal

although they do help keep things tidy

[whole zinc]

ahh okok

[whole zinc]

mm but ill just use them when needed ig

[dense violet]

as I mentioned, pre coal stuff tends to be very temporary for people so less needed imo. But you'll find your life is much easier using them afterwards

[whole zinc]

ahh alright alrighty

i cant wait to play this for like a few hours a day after my exams r over

[jovial oracle]

Bro

I blew up a lizard doggo

While clearing boulders

😭😭😭😭

[drifting cave]

Ugh, I can't decide if i want to do a full train loop for my oil transport or if i wanna do a push-pull system 😭

[dense violet]

do you think you'll ever want to link up that bit of rail with other rail locations?

[drifting cave]

yeah, I plan on going to the rocky desert on my mainline

[dense violet]

then do two way rail

[drifting cave]

cool! thanks for that extra push, i was leaning more towards that anyway lol :D

[dense violet]

two way rail just makes your life easier if you ever plan on doing more than 1 train on it

[dusky relic]

#screenshots message

WHERE 🤬

nvm found it 😢

[tough thistle]

Hi

[fiery escarp]

The process of the tower of efficiency has begun :3 I was told that verticality would improve efficiency so I will be improving efficiency VERTICALLY NYEHEHEHEHE

I am wondering tho how wide should it be? I was thinking maybe a 24x24 or a 25x25. Ima make it like uuuuh… a lot of stories tall

[stuck dagger]

The more I think about it the more I regret putting in modded buildings

[fiery escarp]

Why

[stuck dagger]

I need to overhaul a not-insignificant amount of my build if I want to play 1.1

(or wait for the mod to update)

I dunno, I've also been away from the game for a while because RL stuff

[fiery escarp]

Welllll how important is the mod? And what mods do u have (this is me just making conversation i physically cant help you bc i refuse to use mods)

[fiery escarp]

lol same except I have no life and I have no RL stuff

[stuck dagger]

Both not-important (because of what it adds) and important (because of where I put the stuffs)

Basically I'd have to redo a lot of piping and my recycled plastic/rubber setup

[fiery escarp]

Omgggg I HATED maximizing my rubber and plastic outputs SO MUCHHHHH

[stuck dagger]

yeah

I made a bunch of blueprints that does 60/min crude

It was simple to set up, but if I need to change anything I have to change them everywhere

[fiery escarp]

I believe I understand. I didn’t use any blueprints and I took the “use verticality to improve efficiency” a lil too literally (whenever my fuel production slows a lil I just add more height or I did untill I realized the awesome sink is a big trash can)

[fiery escarp]

That’s one thing I DESPISEDDD about blueprints

[leaden ether]

93 iron wire constructors... I just... holy cow. :/

[stuck dagger]

tbh it's not like I don't have other things to do

[dense violet]

why? were you trying ot mix your end plastic and rubber into one system?

[stuck dagger]

Last I left off I still haven't automated RCUs

[fiery escarp]

Yesnt? Idrk. I had a truck that would deliver it all in an unorganized method bc i didn’t think it would produce so much then I tried to fix it and just made it worse I gave up and make the tower of storage then the awesome sink

[fiery escarp]

I never made it that far 😔

[stuck dagger]

are you even at phase 4

[fiery escarp]

Yes

[stuck dagger]

ah okay

[fiery escarp]

Made it just before the nuclear stuff and then got angry at myself bc I couldn’t figure out how to build big train station 😔

So now I’m restarting with a new goal. THE TOWER OF EFFICIENCY!

[stuck dagger]

I did nuclear so I didn't have to worry about power until a lot later on

[dense violet]

oh so your issue was moving hte plastic nad rubber after?

[stuck dagger]

also I just don't like spamming many refineries and fuel gens

[fiery escarp]

I had a shmokay fuel setup. It was 7 generators

[fiery escarp]

Yes after I had too much and everything was a mess and I just couldn’t figure shiz out

[stuck dagger]

I ended up with 90GW production + 2 amplifiers because I ended up having room for them nearby

[dense violet]

ah well if you're mixing items in transport you'll need to have a smart splitters after delivery that splits them off to their own buffers and an overflow sink so it doesnt get clogged 🙂 trivial solution

[fiery escarp]

Exactly :3 and I’m too autismified to do that. Well I’m not and could prob figure it out but pshaw.

[fiery escarp]

H-hoh

[stuck dagger]

I would not advise doing nuclear if you don't want to troubleshoot the setup for days afterward though

I had to do it, but then again I was doing it all the way to plutonium all at once

[fiery escarp]

Wdym troubleshoot? What problems did you have once you got to nuclear?

[stuck dagger]

Mostly sulphuric acid in my case

I did a dorky thing where the byproduct acid from the uranium step goes toward the plutonium step instead of being reused at uranium

No end of flow issues until I fixed it, and I forgot how I fixed it

[fiery escarp]

I think I get it? I never unlocked the nuclear production stuff so I’m not sure but that sounds like a pain

[stuck dagger]

If you don't do plutonium rods without any prior experience it's not a problem

[tough thistle]

Hey Crunchwrap, can I ask a question.

[stuck dagger]

Recycle the acid like you could in aluminium and water

[atomic notch]

Ima unlock nuclear once i get rcu’s and hmf automated

[fiery escarp]

Ofc

[atomic notch]

Well see how it goes never even looked into it

[fiery escarp]

What are these acronyms or whatever the word for the stuff like btw is

[stuck dagger]

RCU = radio control unit
HMF = heavy modular frame

though I think they might be referring to fused modular frame

[tough thistle]

These really big looking creatures…there like huge and grey. Do you know what they can do?

[stuck dagger]

Be annoying /s

[fiery escarp]

I HATE THEM

[tough thistle]

I don’t like when that get close to my base

[fiery escarp]

They have gotten in my way so many times

[stuck dagger]

you can bounce on their torsos I guess

[fiery escarp]

I’ll find a way to send a smol vid of my factory (if possible) and point out the mess they stopped me from making

[fiery escarp]

That’s fun

[tough thistle]

Yea did one time after I killed it

[cyan garnet]

They are harmless. They can be annoying but they won’t hurt you and they won’t impact your factory

[dense violet]

yeah you really really don't want to interlink multiple steps to be dependent on each other

while It might be technically possible I've never seen anyone do it

[fiery escarp]

It got in my way of building

[cyan garnet]

You can kill them with enough effort. They have a lot of HP

[fiery escarp]

I did that once I think? I forgot with what tho might be my fuel production?

[sterile blade]

They are dangerous. They can be distracting and hurt your building efficiency by making you waste your time looking at and making memes about them

[dense violet]

that's not really interlinking future and past steps with fuel though

for example if you feed the compacted coal waste from one of the later fuel steps, but redirect it to an independent turbo fuel step that will eventually lead to more rocket fuel? that's fine

but trying to use waste sulfuric in uranium rods for future plutonium stuff? absolutely not

[fiery escarp]

That just sounds impractical

That has to drain your efficiency by what? 2.3% at least

[dense violet]

I mean, it will likely just clog up the whole system

[stuck dagger]

On hindsight, yes it is impractical

[dense violet]

or just make it extremely stuttering at best

[stuck dagger]

Setting up the recyclement loop is more upfront effort but it saves you the headache in the long run

[fiery escarp]

I hate stutery 😔

Ima go to bed bc I got stuff in the morning thanks for talkin with me gn peoples

[tough thistle]

Thank god

[jovial oracle]

Bro, my tractor glitched through the ground and I can't get it out.

[tough thistle]

I used constructors and miners to make concrete, iron plates, iron rods, and wires, then I’m just using biomass burners for the energy

Now I just got to wait until I have enough to make the space eleveator🫠

[jovial oracle]

Wait till you see the small ones :D

[cyan garnet]

Set up containers full of leaves and wood feeding constructors for biomass to a constructor for biofuel. Make a stash and then feed that via belt to the biomass burners

[jovial oracle]

Just get around 6000 leaves and 1000 wood, it'll produce enough biomass to keep your factory working 3-quarterway till you discover the next fuel source.

[void cliff]

Odd question, but can't i just keep the hub in my pocket by not having one built? just pull it out whenever needed

[dense violet]

if you like

but at the start you'll most likely have most of your things at one spot, and later on you won't be unlocking things nearly as fast

[tough thistle]

I did see little spider earlier, they were annoying, and they killed me

[jovial oracle]

GG

[tough thistle]

I got the game like 2 days ago

Minecraft was getting boring after 20,000+ hours of playtime 💀

[dense violet]

if you turn on arachnaphobia mode they are easier to spot

[tough thistle]

You would know something like that

Are you scared of spiders🫠

[dense violet]

they are, in some ways, scarrier with arachnaphobia mode 😛 they just stand out more

[tough thistle]

I hate spiders

Hearing their little feet when they run💀

[dense violet]

ive never used it myself though.

[tough thistle]

Creeps me out

[fresh wharf]

You walk around and suddenly get jumpscared by like 50 of these spider fucks because they're camouflaged

[dense violet]

not if they are cats

[fresh wharf]

Very angry cats

[dense violet]

but hilarious

[fresh wharf]

Yeah then you kill them and turn their corpse into an inhaler

[jovial oracle]

Jesus Christ, bro.

[tough thistle]

It was like the only game I played lmao

[jovial oracle]

Yeah I figured that part out 💀

Bruh I fell down a cliff again

Oh my God

[green fiber]

I guess you could say you
fell off
🥁

[tough thistle]

(8/10)

[quick sky]

It's probabilistic 🤓

[jovial oracle]

Where do I share funny videos related to the game?

[elder apex]

just from looking at the channel list i would guess either https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/553257340108013568 or https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/456117300446232578

[jovial oracle]

Aight.

[jovial oracle]

According to their descriptions and pins, I don't think it's allowed there.

[prisma thicket]

Is there a way to optimize for power saving on satisfactory tools?

[fathom grove]

What do you want to share ?

[fathom grove]

Wdym satisfactory tools ?

[prisma thicket]

the website, satisfactorytools.com

[fathom grove]

Sorry i don't know

[jovial oracle]

A hog falling to its demise, lol. It's a video.

[dense violet]

not this version.

but also if you're issue is power, then your actual problem is 'build more power'

[prisma thicket]

Yah, guess I'll have to rework my coal plant sooner than I expected

[reef basin]

or build new one

[dense violet]

if you max out 3-4 coal nodes , overclocking them, that will get you very far

[prisma thicket]

Oh I know, just went back to a different save and redid my coal plant in the same spot, 2 impure nodes and 2 normal nodes with fully overclocked mk.3 miners getting me 8700 MW of power (would be 9000 if I weren't diverting 60 coal for nobelisks)

Just didn't think I'd have to start overclocking miners just yet.

[dense violet]

surprised you're still doing coal if you have acess to mk3 miners

a solid diluted fuel build would get you big power pretty easily

[sacred summit]

I swear I've spent like 15-20 hours putting this little, piddly motor facility. 🤦🏼‍♂️ I know I could've just built the standard box design on a flat, elevated platform, but I decided to try and make something a bit more showy and I'm posting for it. 🤣

[dire pollen]

i fucking love yall

[void cliff]

||suicidal boar with a jetpack|| just killed me, lol

[ivory condor]

You found Johnny, its best to have extra caution when approaching Johnny, he oftens doesn't like pioneers getting to close

[void cliff]

I was fighting other bugs and he came flying right at me, lol

[jovial oracle]

Can I not copy and paste a whole factory on the blueprint to build it?

[nimble whale]

To be honest I tend to keep about 5-10gw worth coal plants up even into the late late game, it's a habit I stayed in from before priority switches were a thing, having about 5-10gw coal with about 1gwh Storage is able to kickstart the fuel factories, even the very big ones if they are segregated into multiple subfactories

[last jackal]

No.

[jovial oracle]

Dang, that's sad.

But alright.

[ivory condor]

Maybe a mod might allow you to do whatever your trying

[sage wind]

I cannot play satisfactory anymore 😦 My game crashes with fatal error every 10 minutes

[reef basin]

post a crash log as text to #1038092680493801533

[sage wind]

Do you know if it saves them anywhere? I have since closed that window.

[reef basin]

if it crashes every 10 minutes, it should be easy to make it happen again 🙂

[fathom grove]

Do you do something specific that could make it crash ? I remember (on exp) that the game crashed shortly after i dismantled a drone port while the drone was about to land

[sage wind]

No it crashes while I'm running about in a world that has 4 smelters in it

[fathom grove]

damn

[dense violet]

Oh yeah no reason to bulldoze them

[old yarrow]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=IAeIHcypMhQpaOYPrg0G (Uranium)

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=RA1JxR6RsgfW0K0zDj46 (Plutonium)

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=ENxHeC8X9RT4q4x5HnTT (Ficsonium)

Can someone tell me if these nuclear fuel rod productions are balanced, like if i used the 12 uranium fuel rods, would it produce 600 uranium waste for the plutionum rods, I found these online btw, not mine

[dense violet]

you can check the wiki for the plutonium waste, but each uranium rod pm produces 50 waste pm burned

[dense violet]

I'd also make up your own production lines suited to the locations you want. And possibly consider not doing ficsonium unless you find it really interesting

[dense violet]

one of the other reasons to make your own - the plutonium rod recipes are more resource intensive as they use extra uranium and thigns to increase total production.

[robust nymph]

I tend to repurpose mine for a steel line after getting my fuel up.

For kickstarting power plants I just have an array of 200 fully charged and disconnected batteries next to my fuel plant

[robust nymph]

is it though? the whole game is building a factory, seems like you're just skipping the game if you just paste a whole (or multiple) factory and call it a day

[viral olive]

input 600/min of fuel
3 output 200/min per output

should I put a valve on each output limiting it to 200/min, and just connect each output to 10 fuel gens?

or manifold all of it

[dense violet]

just do a manifold. No need for valves basically any time

[robust nymph]

no, don't just straight up manifold the 600 pipe

[viral olive]

is there a calculator for how long it would take to fill all 30

[robust nymph]

if you manifold a 600 pipe it will do more like 550

because the manifold can cause sloshing

split it into 2 or 3 equal pipes and feed that into 2 or 3 manifold

or loop your manifold

[viral olive]

is this like a bug or a feature

[robust nymph]

how much does a single gen hold? that x 30, divided by 600

[robust nymph]

Wouldn't consider it either of those, it's just a quirck in how pipes work

[prisma thicket]

gens hold 50 units of fuel each, but consume 20 per minute.

[robust nymph]

this is assuming you turn them all of (with the switch in the UI) so they fill easily before consuming

[dense violet]

only if you build it improperly

[viral olive]

can you explain

[dense violet]

so essentially the more full you do mark 2 pipes the more tidy and careful you have to be. Pipes aren't belts

[robust nymph]

yeah, and manifolding a 600/m pipe IS building improperly

[dense violet]

there's back flow and gravity to deal with

[robust nymph]

you need to either split it or loop it first

[boreal musk]

you want to loop the pipe if you do full 600/min

[dense violet]

and this is the type of thing you're blocked over

[robust nymph]

?

[dense violet]

because it's nonsense

[robust nymph]

I mean

[dense violet]

even if it's like 500 tbh

[robust nymph]

it's not? manifolding a 600 pipe without looping or prior splitting will cause flow issues

[dense violet]

so as a short answer - the longer and more full flow you have pipes, the more careful you have to be about keeping them stable.

if you want you can run 600 reliably, but you have to accept you have to build carefully.

it's also fine to not want to do that

[robust nymph]

I don't see where the nonsense in this is

[dense violet]

and if you want to run 600 pipes I can take you through some very simple basics 🙂

[viral olive]

how do i become careful? - just letting it all fill before turning them on?

[dense violet]

but keeping them at the 200 groups you have will probably make life easier and you'll have to worry less

[dense violet]

that's part of it. Lets take it to #math-and-meta , you can share images there

[viral olive]

oh im not on the game right now

[dense violet]

I can share images though 🙂

[viral olive]

yep

[fresh wharf]

Hey, how do I scan new ores again? I got bauxite but I can't find it in the MAM.

[prisma thicket]

Bauxite isn't used in the MAM, it's a late game ore that you won't need until phase 4

[tiny ermine]

Do y'all think 16GW is enough power to finish Phase 3?

[boreal musk]

you need to unlock them in tier 7

not every resources are unlocked with MAM

[pastel carbon]

Do you have enough power to make the things you want to make?

[fresh wharf]

Alright

[pastel carbon]

If you do, then it's enough

[tiny ermine]

Man I don't know, in my first save I used 60 GW in phase 3 😭

[pastel carbon]

Wow you build big

[boreal musk]

even quartz and caterium are locked behind milestone, but they can be unlocked early in MAM

[tiny ermine]

I built sloppy and just had a bunch of extra stuff all the time

would have a facility producing like 500 extra copper wire, and that would be in every single one, it was a big problem

[pastel carbon]

My game complete base barely reached 50-60GW at its peak

[tiny ermine]

damn

[boreal musk]

i build big in phase 3 before, and it only took 30GW

60 is twice as big

[frozen ingot]

i'm starting to think we should just have a dedicated #pipes channel in here 🤣

[dense violet]

it's not a terrible idea. But #math-and-meta is generally quiet enough.

[tiny ermine]

Gah I hate it when another factor is too close for monorail, but too close for truck or tractor

[dense violet]

run belts under the main train line for shorter distances 🙂

[tiny ermine]

Well I don't got a train yet 😭

but like they are super close to each other

like 500m away

[dense violet]

xD long belts is fine. You're early in the game 🙂

progress through the tiers, get your ficsit on

[tiny ermine]

Just gonna be a pain to retrofit later down the line

Though hold up

[dense violet]

Well, either you're the type of person who will be done with the game after you've done the phases, where it won't really matter if you leave it as is as you can just build new factories

or you're the type of person who will treat the game like a real sand box and do your own projects, where I can basically guarantee whatever you're building right now won't gel with your goals

So, it probably doesn't matter how yo uset it up now

[tiny ermine]

good point

[dense violet]

my suggestion going up the tiers is just be chill and learn what you can 🙂

[boreal musk]

i always set my own rule where resources further than 1km uses train/drones, and below that is just belt highway

[tiny ermine]

hmmm okay

[boreal musk]

nothing wrong with long belt, you can make them pretty

[dense violet]

base how you want to do it on what aspect of the game you want to learn right now 🙂

like if you just want to focus on the factories? long belts be fine

[fresh wharf]

How far does the scanner go? 2km?

[prisma thicket]

Scanner doesn't have a range limit, it shows the nearest 3 nodes or groups of nodes

[fresh wharf]

Ah, okay, thanks

[old yarrow]

Okk thanks

[coarse geode]

why cant i place an oil extractor on oil?

[robust nymph]

is it an oil node or an oil well?

[robust nymph]

Which one of these 2 #screenshots message

[obsidian magnet]

for the first time im nearing 100 hours on a save.. what have i done

[robust nymph]

100 hours isn't too bad

this game has taken easily 1500 or more from mee

[timid rune]

hitting 840hrs on my save

and finally getting to nuclear

[lavish sleet]

that's dedication holy

[timid rune]

a lot of it is afk though

it took A LOT of my time to do nuclear prep

[lavish sleet]

yeah i've heard it takes a lotttt of prep and building to set up

[timid rune]

had to setup pure copper/irons farms

[lavish sleet]

i just beat the game with rocket fuel, unbalanced, too easy

[timid rune]

and I am still not done with nuclear yet

yet to setup my Uranium nodes

[lavish sleet]

real

yeah on my next save i'm gonna go nuclear i think

and just generally do more planning and attempt to make things look nice

[timid rune]

by the time I am done this nuclear plant should do just over 1TW of power

without waste

[lavish sleet]

holy crap that's insane

[timid rune]

50 nuclear fuel rods + 12.5 Pu + 62.5 Ficsonium fuel rods/min

I am sinking Plutonium fuel rods once I have done the nuclear/plutonium bit while I deal with the ficsonium problem

[lavish sleet]

doesn't burning just the uranium get you something crazy like 633GW

[timid rune]

yeah

I have to deal with uranium waste though

[lavish sleet]

no yeah

[timid rune]

might as well sink plutonium for a bit

[lavish sleet]

get those coupons

[timid rune]

I will defos need that 240 extra refineries for pure copper though hah

[obsidian magnet]

how do you guys deal with planning ? i used to draw out schemes on paper, but recently picked up satisfactory modeler from steam

[timid rune]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

there are a few more

I am so tempted to do pure iron on the South Western Iron nodes

[lime ermine]

I don't plan

[lament vault]

when using tractors to transport multiple items can I just load everything to one tractor or should I have one track for each item?

[timid rune]

if you want a bus setup and sink the excess you can have 1 tractor

not what I would do but it is doable

[fathom grove]

I did felt like that too when i got 100h

But it's 100h on Satisfactory sooooo...

[robust nymph]

The main 2 ways to do it are:

1. satisfactory modeler, for a more manual and custom approach (you plan the factory yourself)

2. SatisfactoryTools, a quicker and easier way to do it, it plans everything for you, you just select what you want to make, how much, which recipes you have, and what resources it can use

and yeah, then there is pen and paper

[lament vault]

what would happen if 2 tractors were to crash?

[boreal musk]

deadlocked

[whole zinc]

ahh i cant wait to buy the game when im done with my exams

[swift kernel]

So, if they crash, little magical nanobots will automatically put them back on track. But if their routes were planned poorly, the trucks will be deadlocked, each one waiting for the other to move first

Trucks are why my roads have center dividers. Makes planning routes a lot easier. I find trucks are more likely to be inadvertently deadlocked when using natural paths with no clear divider

[dense violet]

gotta record the routes so they don't head butt

[peak wasp]

But do a truck go choo-choo?

[leaden turret]

1. doing it in my head
2. doing it with signs
3. doing it with spreadsheets
4. built my own planner

[inner echo]

gross over production

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac re: adding skating:

• we already have skateboard merch
• person whose name you can't pronounce and is in charge of story also skates so could probably be convinced to make skateboarding canon. and maybe mocap? 🤔

[leaden turret]

?

[inner echo]

It's not really a planning method...I just tend to grossly over produce so I have more than enough for whatever comes next.

[leaden turret]

"who cares if I build enough, I'm having fun just building" is a legit way to play.

[inner echo]

It's lazy not-lazy?

[leaden turret]

well I mean I specifically built my planner to not tell people how to build out their factories, so I have my own views on what constitutes "lazy" 🤷‍♂️

[nocturne kettle]

How do you join via Epic Games?

[wheat reef]

Hello guys, does anyone have a blueprint to turn 480 copper ingots into sheets, wires and cables?

or at least 120 cause the only one i could find requires ore, which i already smelt

[timid rune]

time to unlock steamed copper sheets if you have the power!

[hasty abyss]

is there anyway to make the boombox music just the global music? and not an area of effect? I only play multiplayer with a friend and me walking past with a boombox on is very irritating apparently

[robust nymph]

make it yourself? ;)

that's what the game is about, bit of a shame to skip the game by never building anything yourself

[wheat reef]

exactly what I'm doing rn ^^

though i'm bad at planning and creating things so I'll build a whole floor which will work with copper only

[swift kernel]

I find that by creating what I need, I find my own inefficiencies and slowly work towards self improvement

Iteration is the key to success

[timid rune]

yeah creating blueprints is really nice as a practice

[swift kernel]

I make all my own blueprints

[robust nymph]

me too, it's good practice but it's also just fun

to me at least

[broken thorn]

Is it worth using Crystal computer or Caterium computer is better ?

[wheat reef]

I tried downloading road bp's
couldn't understand how they worked so made a few of my own

[timid rune]

depends Cape

[broken thorn]

If I use Crystal computer I'd be using about 3 pure iron nodes, but If I use Caterium computer I'd be using a bit over 3 pure caterium nodes

[timid rune]

I like Caterium Computers

because I can use fused quickwire

and pure caterium + pure copper (if you reallly really want to lol)

[wheat reef]

manifolds are so satisfying once they are full

[timid rune]

I am more of a load balancing person (mainly because I have the modular load balancer mod) but I mix both

[wheat reef]

I play vanilla and if I can use manifolds, I WILL

[timid rune]

I started modding after I beat phase 5

[wheat reef]

oh

[broken thorn]

I don't think it's worth it because you still need about 1 pure and 1 normal caterium node and 3 pures and 1 normal copper node

[wheat reef]

nah, i am at phase 4, haven't completed any part yet

[timid rune]

I mean the pure caterium ingot receipe

[broken thorn]

yes, I'm using it

[timid rune]

quartz is a late game problem for me

mainly because I am burning so much for my nuclear setup lol

[broken thorn]

I don't plan on making Nuclear so that's fair

( 800 fuel generators goes brrrrrrrrrrr )

[timid rune]

rocket fuel?

[broken thorn]

I'm too scared to deal with nuclear and I don't want to deal with 40 mk2 water pipes

[timid rune]

only 40? 😛

[broken thorn]

😭

[wheat reef]

my problem is that i can't quite comprehend big constructions

[timid rune]

think my setup is gonna have about 200+ mk2 pipes

[broken thorn]

how much energy u producing

[timid rune]

I am planning for 1.05TW by the time I am done

[broken thorn]

Why

[wheat reef]

Terrawatt

[timid rune]

• another 160 GW from rocket fuel

[wheat reef]

jesus

[broken thorn]

Why are you making 160gw from rocket fuel if you can just place an augmentator down and get that with a click 😭

[timid rune]

I still have sloops left over though

[wheat reef]

I am at 7Gwt and it's all i need rn

[timid rune]

I haven't even started producing power with nuclear yet

still dealing with supporting infras

[broken thorn]

ah

[rapid wren]

is diluted fuel later, in blender?

[timid rune]

yeah

[broken thorn]

no you can do it without blender using diluted packaged fuel

[rapid wren]

thanks

but it's not available in MAM until i get to t7/8 right?

[broken thorn]

no

[rapid wren]

i have not seen it yet

[broken thorn]

I am in tier 6 and already have it

[rapid wren]

oh

[robust nymph]

how many computers are you making?

[broken thorn]

It is a game changer if you want to make fuel power plants before completing phase 3

[broken thorn]

120

[timid rune]

think my uranium fuel rod part alone is going to be about 130-140 mk2 water pipes

not filling up it to the brim though

since I am overclocking the nuclear generators to 200% at most

[robust nymph]

you're either going to be using a good chunk of caterium, or a good chunk of quartz. which one of the 2 is your choice

[rapid wren]

lol nice

[robust nymph]

I like crystal computer because you can avoid having to deal with liquids (oil), and water hardly counts because you can just overproduce water and solve every issue

[rapid wren]

is there a recipe in the refinery or packager to add water into fuel?

[timid rune]

you mean water + Heavy oil residue?

[broken thorn]

Diluted packaged fuel in refinery using packaged water and heavy oil residue

[robust nymph]

@broken thorn you could consider this #screenshots

[timid rune]

damn 4.6k water/min hah

not that it really matters lol

[coarse geode]

planning to build a factory that produces the basic aluminium items for use in other factories, whats a good output rate to go for?

[timid rune]

IIRC if you go for pure aluminum your theoretical limit is about 9k ingots/min

[robust nymph]

664 copper, 280 caterium, 4.6k water, 880 crude oil

[coarse geode]

i dont think i need 9k

[rapid wren]

and you get this included in the normal diluted fuel alt right. there is only 1

[broken thorn]

what if I use caterium circuit board instead

[coarse geode]

i was thinking about bringing in a full mk5 belt

maybe 2

[timid rune]

I'd say aim for 2 mk6 belt (2.4k/min)

[coarse geode]

dont have mk6

[timid rune]

which receipes do you prefer

sloppy alumina + pure aluminum?

[robust nymph]

#screenshots

[coarse geode]

i dont know how either recipe goes rn

[timid rune]

sloppy alumina + pure aluminum is basically water + coal + bauxite + dealing with the output water loop pain

[robust nymph]

cheaper on the rest except you use far more caterium