satisfactory

[atomic notch]

Idk man i never really struggle remembering what stuff is doin

[peak wasp]

I could, but then I'd have to tear them down once the factory is completed since I don't enjoy their look. And you couldn't read them from a distance either

It'd be convenient if you could just press f and hover over a machine in the distance to see what it does

[atomic notch]

You can see the materials when u press f right?

[peak wasp]

Yeah, but I don't have any materials in them right now lol

[atomic notch]

Idk what to tell you then

Sucks ig

[zenith bronze]

guys PLEASE help

[atomic notch]

#1038092680493801533

[peak wasp]

How many bio reactors is a normal amount?

I have 6 3 of which are fully power slugged up

[latent prawn]

really any more than 6 to 12 and you'd be better off building some coal power for the effort. the practical limit on it all is how fast your belts are and what speed of biofuel production you can achieve

[sharp notch]

hey greeny, do you have any advice for making the early game go faster until i can hit coal power

[supple echo]

man wish somebody would play w me

[sharp notch]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758

[supple echo]

i did nobody wants to

i havent played in ages and im so confused 😭

[peak wasp]

I am still very early game but I rather have a bunch of stuff going all at once

[latent prawn]

i like overbuilding it out to 12 just out of habit from before the burners had belt ports so that i didn't have to hand feed them as often. any way you cut it though, the goal is to get coal power going asap so that you're not having to play a gardening simulator anymore 😄

[reef basin]

stop pinging me

[sharp notch]

fair enough then

[peak wasp]

wait you guys don't like gardening?

[sharp notch]

do you have any advice though

[reef basin]

these questions are not targeted to me, so why ping

just ask them normally

[sharp notch]

do you have any advice for making hte early game go faster

[reef basin]

yeah, don't waste time on discord, play the game

[hidden sparrow]

Im wasting time on discord because im scared of my own factory now

[swift kernel]

They already asked you to stop pinging them

[reef basin]

that's a different person though?

[hidden sparrow]

Whar

I just came here wassup

[swift kernel]

Oh that's my bad

I'm sorry, I was trying to be helpful and instead put my foot in my mouth

[hidden sparrow]

Thats it nepal flag go 🇳🇵

[fresh wharf]

doing the tiers

[left totem]

weird ass pfp and banner tells me you're a weirdo

that's the assumption I get

¯_(ツ)_/¯

no and don't want to

[hard ivy]

If it's not you then it's even worse

[thick vine]

same. when u start a megaproject so mega it scares you 20% in so all you do is hop around on the roofs of the machines and get mad at people on discord

[thick vine]

when i first saw them join i thought its a spam bot to some website that tries to give u viruses..

[hidden sparrow]

you looks like a scam bot

like the pfp banner tag and "dms always open" scream scammer behaviour

[swift kernel]

Creepy

[polar leaf]

@split island #screenshots message why does it actually look like those Japanese constructions 😭

[sacred summit]

Oh COME ON! 😭
https://imgur.com/IckXGaI

[subtle lichen]

Hey all new to game and wondering why I cant get the line to show that I am snapping to my smelter when I am trying to place my constructor donwn? Do I need to be looking at the building already down and hit cntrl?

[delicate ocean]

How do I split an output into uneven amounts?
I'd like more steel ingots going into the steel beam constructor

[swift kernel]

No, just hold control, and if the building is close enough, the snapping lines should show up automatically.

[subtle lichen]

ok ill try and that works for all buildings right?

[swift kernel]

Yep, all conveyor ports

[subtle lichen]

wha about belts do they line up that way too?

[sacred summit]

Yeah. Only trouble I've noticed is, when you're building in a fairly dense way (lots of close together), the auto snap sometimes wants to snap to something else lol

[swift kernel]

When placing belts, you can tap "r" to go into straight mode

[subtle lichen]

okies cool

[stray patio]

#screenshots any1 lmk pls

[sacred summit]

Also, as a fellow rookie, one of the more helpful but understated features is the "Hologram Lock" feature when you're building. Press H, and then you can actually wander around and look and make sure it's lined up properly. Arrow keys to nudge it a bit in each direction. Left click to build, right click to cancel.

At least if you're like me and want things to be in straight, crisp lines lol

[subtle lichen]

ahh ok cool

and I am lol

[swift kernel]

If you split a belt three ways, you can then merge two of those belts together and now you have 1/3 on one belt and 2/3 on the other belt

[sacred summit]

Also, if you have sufficient quantities to maximize capacity.. use a MkI belt on one side, a MkII on another, etc.

[swift kernel]

Use this principle to math out what you need

[swift kernel]

I've never relied on that, but yeah, that totally works

Great idea

[leaden ether]

Yeah that looks about right. If you mix the flexible framework into a factory that already has all the basic stiff then it's not bad. But from the ground up it does take a lot to get there.

[stray patio]

god and i hate end game where theres 4 input Assembler thingys

i stopped playing about there on my last save haha

[swift kernel]

You can also back feed "remainder" belts back into the initial output with a merger just before the first splitter

[leaden ether]

The Manufacturer machines are always a bit of a pain 😄

[swift kernel]

Manufacturers are mid game lol

[stray patio]

My bad Mrs Satisfactory pro 😔

[swift kernel]

I've put so many hours into this save and I'm still early mid game.

[stray patio]

i have 58ish hrs on my last save

i dont know what else todo 😭

[azure swan]

To be fair they come in around phase 3 but they are right at the top of complexity cause of the 4 inputs.

[swift kernel]

I have 546 hours

[stray patio]

are you even going for phase 4 lol

[swift kernel]

Yes, but I've been playing this game since early access. I really wanted to make this my save to end all saves.

I'm going for nothing less than satisfying

[stray patio]

so automating every item?

[swift kernel]

Of course. I also have a fully functional recycling center

[sacred summit]

Look forward to eventually getting to that level of complexity....
So far I just hate that it feels far more efficient to just string conveyors over, up around and through the wilderness like some sort of psycho, instead of setting up logistics chains. I haven't unlocked trains yet, so maybe they're a lot better, but at least the trucks... between the power drain, the need to fill them with fuel, the insane fuel economy, and the work required to actually "path" them out, it seems very, VERY low-return.

[stray patio]

meaning?

[swift kernel]

I throw things in the recycling bin, and a truck comes, picks it up, and takes it to my sorting center and central storage depot

[stray patio]

yeah just for 1 item im assuming

[leaden ether]

This was my initial VF factory... #screenshots message
You need these later for making more items so don't dismantle your factory too quickly.

[sacred summit]

Yeah, for me, 1 item. Because I haven't unlocked the smart/filter splitters.

[robust nymph]

how do I open the console? my tilde key isn't doing anything

[sacred summit]

I know sorting is a thing, but I haven't found it naturally, and it feels a bit weird to just go google it

[swift kernel]

I have three main factories at the moment. My Iron/Copper/Limestone factory, my Steel/Coal Power factory, and my sorting/ Project Assembly factory

[leaden ether]

it opens a /tiny/ little window at the bottom, or touble tap it and it'll open a bigger one.

[stray patio]

Is there like specific locations for good item assemblery? that seems to be the perfect spot

[robust nymph]

alt+shift+L also does not change anything, tilde still does not work after that

[swift kernel]

Explore a lot. If you find something called Caterium, then you're on the right path

[robust nymph]

there is a splitter that can sort, I can give you a hint on how to unlock it if you want

[robust nymph]

that's the thing, it's not opening whatsoever

[sacred summit]

Honestly, since you have to deal with verticality, and there's no terrain deformation, if you're looking for the best answer seems to be just building elevated factories in the sky.

[stray patio]

hella effort tho 😔

[swift kernel]

Then build over the sea.

[robust nymph]

most efficient, also the most boring

[robust nymph]

no that's like no effort

there are 0 obstacles to deal with

[sacred summit]

Oh, I don't mean like 400 blocks in the air.. I just mean find an open enough area, and then use foundations to life yourself off the ground.

[robust nymph]

I got tired of always making sky/sea bases, so on my current playthrough I've started making a shitload of small factories connected by trains, everything incorporated in the terain as much as I can

[sacred summit]

If there was terrain deformation, or at least a less clipping - either one, I'm not picky - I'd hover around the ground a bit more. But seeing random ass rocks sticking through my floor... I can't do it. I'll rip up half the damned factory if I need to to cover that up. And that just turns into too much time spent spinning tires than actually progressing.

[robust nymph]

And I'm loving it, it's fun and looks a lot better

[stray patio]

never done it before so i woulndnt know

[robust nymph]

I mean, I'm not saying build IN the floor, but following the terain is making my factories feel a lot more organic and "real"

[robust nymph]

then why would you say "hella effort tho 😔"

[robust nymph]

and having train lines that are not just trains on sky bridges makes the world feel much more alive

[sacred summit]

I definitely get that it's more organic (and I like that tbh), but real factories, they level the ground over some area and force the ground to fit the factory - not vice versa.

[robust nymph]

got inspired to play like this by a guy on yt, https://youtu.be/-Zrex9Xfe2k?si=gN6WRsXFekY5Kndk here it is

[prisma thicket]

Real factories also have tons of people building and operating them, so you gotta limit your expectations a bit for being a single pioneer.

[robust nymph]

what I mean is that it feels like my factory is feasible in the sense that it is on the ground, not in the sky

[robust nymph]

worth watching imo, his world is sick

[zenith pecan]

I still build 10+ kilometre tunnels to move vast amounts of crap 😛

[prisma thicket]

Some might say you're crazy though lol

[atomic notch]

Nah i feel like when you play enough doin basic shit is borin

[zenith pecan]

Maybe, but I'm getting there, it shouldn't be much longer until all 10200 SAM is in the dunes 😄

[sacred summit]

Yeah, I definitely like that. I wish a lot of that wasn't gated beyond the awesome shop - where it feels like (for a new player, at least) you need to pour in some significant time invstment just to earn the privilege of trying to create a building that isn't some basic box-shape.

[elder apex]

i thought that SAM was already everywhere and nowhere simultaneously

[prisma thicket]

Nice, I'm jealous of the focus you can put into doing it your way xD

[zenith pecan]

It kinda is, but when this project is done, it'll just be in the dunes 😛 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga4LcICPnkI

[cosmic epoch]

Hi everyone. I just have a question for people here that I have not been able to fund a clear answer too if that is alright.
I have been wanting to play this game for a bit after seeing all the shit Let's game it out does, and I just got a Legion Go. Before I buy the game I just want to make sure if I will actually be able to play it on the legion go using the joycons.

[zenith pecan]

Once the SAM is done, I'm planning to move all the bauxite to the east coast.

[robust nymph]

never really fealt that way tbh, I just start sinking overflow asap and can get almost anything I want whenever I want

[sacred summit]

Yeah, but do you have 20 hours in the game or 2,000 hours?

[robust nymph]

though I guess I can't be considered a "new player", been playing on and off since EA release

[atomic notch]

Basic box shape? Im offended. This box is anything but basic

[prisma thicket]

I don't know that you'll be able to right now as controllers aren't currently supported, but maybe once the console port is released

[robust nymph]

but, a project like that is also not something you start on right away, trains are a pretty important part of it, and by the time you have trains I think it's fair to assume you've had the chance to obtain a good amount of tickets

[cosmic epoch]

Damn, thanks for the response.

[robust nymph]

currently only 400 hours btw, lost access to the Epic Games account I originally played on. don't remember the email nor the username, so pretty hard to find a way to log in :/

[sacred summit]

😭 that definitely feels bad

[swift kernel]

The experimental branch has basic controller support, but it's still in testing.

[robust nymph]

but including that account I think I'm prob between 1500 and 2000

still feel like a new player in some regard sometimes though, tend to forget things quite quick when I stop playing for a while

[sacred summit]

Yeah, I can relate to that for sure

I really want to jump back into Captain of Industry, but knowing I'll have to go through part of that learning curve again... that's a ball-buster 🤣

[zenith pecan]

How on earth didn't you keep a note on access details 😦

[sacred summit]

I don't think most people do keep notes on their login information

[zenith pecan]

Or even reminders, anything, especially for seldom accessed stuff.

[sacred summit]

For sure that

[robust nymph]

give kid me a break, I was 14 when this game released EA

learned my lesson since, don't worry :p

[zenith pecan]

Still burns you had to learn in that way though 😦

[robust nymph]

true, but it is what it is :p

still weird though, I have 4 email addresses, and none of them have an epic games account. I still suspect my account got deleted somehow, but no way to know for sure 🤷‍♂️

[swift kernel]

Yeah, so I have two old factory saves, back from the beta days. The first one is 146 hours, and the second one is 672 hours. But I'm pretty sure there was at least one more save from way back in closed beta.

[zenith pecan]

Oh god, I'm back to 500 hours again after retiring a near 3000h save 🤦‍♂️ , I play too much.

[sacred summit]

Experience is the best teacher.
Anyone who says they haven't lost a log-in at some point (and that it didn't teach them a lesson) is a liar.

[zenith pecan]

To be fair, I have two emails, used to have a third but I fired my old ISP and migrated anything pointed at that box to the other two.

[sacred summit]

Or they're about 12 and just haven't had enough time to do it yet.

[cosmic epoch]

Oh so does that mean I can download the game right now and play or is it a closed testing type thing?

[atomic notch]

Same shit with my xbox account. Used a landline as a backup number so years later i couldnt recover the account

[sacred summit]

ooouch.

[swift kernel]

So my total amount of hours for the game, total is probably about.... 1500

[sullen gull]

Experimental is open

[atomic notch]

Good thing xbox is worthless now

[robust nymph]

Those 4 emails are the only ones I've ever had, so not a case of a removed email address :/

[polar leaf]

Hm. Now answer me, can you delete liquids in machines using your inventory or no ?

[zenith pecan]

Oh man my Xbox account is so old, it doesn't have the numbers tagged onto the end of the username.

[swift kernel]

Minus the few nights I just left it open while I was sleeping, balanced out by the countless hours I no longer have record of.

[robust nymph]

it is open, but CAN be unstable

[swift kernel]

I don't know why you're singling me out, but yeah, you can flush pipes manually.

[robust nymph]

generally it's fine, but experimental is experimental for a reason. Something can go wrong

[polar leaf]

Not pipes, I'm asking about machines

[swift kernel]

Just change the recipe

[sacred summit]

I lost my Tarkov account, but partially because they're assholes 🤣
I ended up deleting an old google e-mail.... turns out it was attached to that.
I could log into their FORUM with the account, but logging in to download the launcher required authentication from the e-mail... which I couldn't receive because of the deleted e-mail... nor could I update my e-mail without confirming that old e-mail.

I tried explaining it... I even sent an e-mail to their support FROM THE ACCOUNT (via the forum), but no bueno.

[delicate ocean]

this is quite random, but do you turn your fans up while leaving the game on overnight? I'm concerned about temps getting too high

[cosmic epoch]

Thanks alot for the replies. I think I will check it and leave this convo avout a topic I currently have no idea what it is about.

[swift kernel]

I bought a nice fan for my computer

I don't have to worry about overheating anymore.

[sullen gull]

Only way to learn is to participate 🙂

[zenith pecan]

I've seen some proper weird things happen in experimental such as this #satisfactory-experimental message , they did fix it in the end though.

[cosmic epoch]

Thanks for the input.

[robust nymph]

your pc will (should) thermal throttle to prevent temps from getting dangerously high

[sullen gull]

Only 'issues' I have are lifts switching direction when upgrading and I get the Max UObject crash quite a bit.

[cosmic epoch]

That's what I want to do, maybe I will come back here with gameplay questions

[zenith pecan]

You can edit the engine.ini to avoid UObject crashes, I had to by default because I'm always surpassing the max object limit.

[cosmic epoch]

Later.

[polar leaf]

It's because I've seen many people with thousands of hours in the game that didn't know the answer, but yes, you can drag fluids around your inventory. You just can't deposit them in it. For example you can drag the fuild of a machine directly into your inventory's trash

[swift kernel]

Oh, well if you know the answer, why did you ask me?

[robust nymph]

I mean, it's fairly pointless, so not surprising people don't know

[sullen gull]

Mine will do it when just sitting here doing nothing lol. Went to the store to buy cat foodleft it running, came back and had the Max UObject crash heh

[robust nymph]

look at his profile picture, then guess

[polar leaf]

Because I wanted to know if you did too duh

[steel sluice]

That's a bit impolite

[zenith pecan]

Eww, some kind of memory leak around objects not being garbage cleared or something?, that's harsh

[swift kernel]

Sometimes you need to beg the question.

[sullen gull]

Then, I just now restarted to try and get rid of a bit of lag, and got this: Assertion failed: PreloadEntry->NumRefs == 0 [File:D:\BuildAgent\work\SM_BT\UE4\Engine\Source\Runtime\RenderCore\Private\ShaderCodeArchive.cpp] [Line: 1837] Group 5384 has still 3 references on deletion. Group extended debug info: Not compiled in (set UE_SCA_DEBUG_PRELOADING to 1 in ShaderCodeArchive.h and recompile the game binary)

[stray patio]

It seems like „hella effort tho 😔”

[prisma thicket]

What's a good use for liquid biofuel besides the jetpack? I have 16 ISCs full of the stuff and no idea what to do with it all

[robust nymph]

it's litterally placing 100 foundations at a time with zoop with no obstacles, how does that seem like a lot of effort? XD

[sullen gull]

That's all I use for the Jet pack honestly. Easier to control and lasts the longest.

[zenith pecan]

Oof damn, that's all sorts of БЛЯТЬ

[robust nymph]

packaging and sending it into the resource sink

[zenith pecan]

With enough crash reports I guess they'll nail down the dodgy bits and gives a relatively crash free 1.1

[robust nymph]

can't think of much else

Chain saw I guess?

[sullen gull]

Here's to hoping!

[stray patio]

Only place 10 at a time 😔

[robust nymph]

that's why we have experimental after all

[prisma thicket]

Don't think the chainsaw uses anything but solid biofuel

[robust nymph]

oh

[sullen gull]

That's what I thought too.

[zenith pecan]

True, I've spent thousands of hours since update 3 testing, retesting, crashing and in general breaking the game in experimental 😄

[robust nymph]

idk I normally just blow shit up lmao

[robust nymph]

that's what I meant, accidentally hit an extra 0

[prisma thicket]

Yah, that's mostly what I do now too since I automated Nobelisks lol

[swift kernel]

Laughing in modded Satisfactory

[zenith pecan]

Sort of blown up, one of many tests in experimental before 1.0 #satisfactory-experimental message 🤣 , yes that really is 400 flying rail cars going to high orbit.

[robust nymph]

maybe put the biofuel in a car if you decide to drive one

[robust nymph]

yeah I always play with that, makes life easier :p

[zenith pecan]

That rail crash actually knocked my pc down to 4fps.

[robust nymph]

thank you for your service :p

[zenith pecan]

I got my brothers 7950x with rtx4090 down to 3fps with the same experiment 😄

[robust nymph]

oh my god, they should have kept that

[sullen gull]

How can you show FPS in game again?

[swift kernel]

I never understood why we didn't get two dimensional zooping for walls and foundations.

[zenith pecan]

Open the console and type: stat fps

[swift kernel]

Open the console and type: Thanks Jace, helps a lot

[sullen gull]

I tried it, it didn't do anything ....

[zenith pecan]

I find myself using r.fog 0 from time to time, occasionally the effect is so dense it blocks me seeing anything.

[sullen gull]

😏

[sullen gull]

Same

[swift kernel]

It's actually an Easter egg if you just type it in the chat

[stray patio]

🕴️

[swift kernel]

I just wanted to copy the previous message like a little s***

[sullen gull]

Haha, nice

[swift kernel]

Oh no. Not the levitation emoji

[stray patio]

🕴️

[sullen gull]

for some reason I thought you could actually talk to ADA in the chat too

[stray patio]

Im gonna go sleep now

[stray patio]

She acts like an AI so why not

[sullen gull]

Sleep well

[swift kernel]

Does anyone know if there's any other chat Easter Eggs?

[stray patio]

Btw its crazy that people say Piooner doesnt have a gender. She literally has the body of a female 😭

Pioneer*

[swift kernel]

That's the only one I know, but I get the feeling they'd put in more

[stray patio]

Def.

[sullen gull]

Isn't there a bug squished on the bottom of one of the crates or something?

[stray patio]

Wdym

@sullen gull

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I was looking. There used to be a squished stinger on the bottom of the personal storage crate. doesn't look like it's there any more though.

[stray patio]

Ohh

[sullen gull]

Or, the Smelters have : H-0TAF800 (Hot As F%&k)

[swift kernel]

Wait really? I never knew!

[sullen gull]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Easter_eggs Spoiler alert for anyone who doesn't want to know

[swift kernel]

I've played the game long enough to risk this

[pallid wasp]

Thinking about doing an "only trains" run, what do you think a good rule on belts/pipe is? No lengths longer than 20m?

[swift kernel]

Omg ||You can clap lights on and off? ||

[sullen gull]

@stray patio I was looking at the wrong box: #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Lol, I just saw that too

Hmm, it's after 5 too... Time for this pioneer to have a 'beverage' break 😏

[swift kernel]

Wait, I should stop reading

I still haven't had the ending of the game spoiled for me and I really don't want to risk it

[sullen gull]

But at least now you know some fun things to look for 🙂

[subtle lichen]

Why cant I get this foundation to hook up to others I pressed Cntrl when I started laying them down so I should be on the world grid? #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Use your mouse wheel to rotate it

[pallid wasp]

You can be 45 degrees off the world grid

[dusk moon]

how would i got about taking all the resources from the desert? I have these weird train systems but theres a few fatal flaws to it. basically i just want every single node in the desert being taken to a mega factory. what should i do?

[subtle lichen]

doh what a noob I am lol TY

[pallid wasp]

Check the compass

[sullen gull]

I only use world grid to keep everything the same Z height. So that when I am running kilometers of sky scaffolding with frame pillars, I don't end up .5 m short when I reach my destination

[sullen gull]

All the items that you can complete using Iron (with alts of course, Iron wire, Iron pipes, etc)

[pallid wasp]

I wish there was a z height debug number like in minecraft

[dusk moon]

this is just a project im endgame already

actually i dont understand what you said T-T

[sullen gull]

Actually I misread your question honestly 🤣

and only JUST started drinking ... jeesh.

[dusk moon]

both misread eachother T-T

[dense violet]

have lots of train stations properly buffered

and thoroughly plan the destination stations

[sullen gull]

Colbalt's got ya

[dusk moon]

i posted what i have right now in screenshots

i dont know how to tag a message

[sullen gull]

Click on the three dots to the right of the post in screenshots and click Copy Link

[dense violet]

if you want to have an extended conversation with images you want #math-and-meta or a qna post

but seems fine so far? there isn't enough to really evaluate though

[dusk moon]

yeah sure ive been on and off trying to figure this out for a while

i misread again T-T

the problem is i dont think the trains would be enough to carry everything without getting backed up

[mental void]

just finished my mega turbo fuel factory. 50 gens at 200% overclock fully powered. i forgot to look at the power generated but it’s 15*50 right?

[dense violet]

trains can have perfect throughput. Just need to be designed that way

[mental void]

no that’s completely wrong lmao

500*50

[dusk moon]

so if i had 600/min coming out of a miner and a machine far away that needed 600/min would that train be able to keep it up permanently

[dense violet]

if built right, yes

any vehicle logistic can handle any throughput as long as it's made to handle it

[zenith pecan]

You might need to have two trains in a loop if it is really far away but yeah the trains will keep up.

[dusk moon]

didnt know that

they can be as good as a mk5 conveyor?

[dense violet]

yes. any vehicle system can move any amount of throughput if designed to do so

[mental void]

make sure to put storage containers on both ends in case the train brings more than it can carry

[dusk moon]

i dont think im smart enough for this T-T

[dense violet]

each vehicle and logistic option has it's own learning curve.
Trains aren't actually hard but you do have to learn a new skill

[dusk moon]

i should probably start with working out how much ore is coming in

that would be a good idea lol

[latent prawn]

per-freightcar, trains are usually able to move 600/min of ore. longer trips (like if you're moving it all the way across the map), you may hit the limit of the car's capacity, but 600/min if your round trip time is in the <6 min range is fine

for extremely short trips, they can do 780/min, but that's really pushing it

[dusk moon]

one thing how would i split the ore into different categories just different carriages?

[dusk moon]

its only across the desert so i think i should be fine

[dense violet]

generally I'd keep it one node to one car if the distance isn't too great

keep it simple

[latent prawn]

should be if you aren't looping around the ENTIRE desert

[dusk moon]

thats what i meant i didnt know if car was the right word

[dusk moon]

i have 7 different lanes for 7 different trains #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

So, wait, if I have an ISC with two mk6 going to the inputs, could one not essentially achieve 2400/min throughput?

Going to the inputs of a freight platform that is

[latent prawn]

well, that's one way to do it i guess, lol

[dense violet]

with mk5 belts and shorter trips you likely can do 1 node per platform. Once you hit mk6 belts that might change

[latent prawn]

you're transfer rate is always going to be less than the max b/c of the ~30 second lockout window when a train is docked

[dusk moon]

this is what i am saying i feel like theres an easier way

[sullen gull]

Ahhhh, ok, gotcha. Thanks.

[latent prawn]

typically you want to stay under one belt's capacity per train car, but sometimes you can push it higher

[sullen gull]

And thanks for the answer. I'm sure sensitive coblat still has me blocked, so didn't expect one from them 😏

[dense violet]

have a few points where a few nodes are being moved to a receiving station

collect it with a train and move it

[dusk moon]

tbf how much can drones move

[latent prawn]

if you stay under half the max capacity, the math on how long the buffer has to burst to catch up on the transfer is trivial - the train just has to be out of the station as long as it was in the station

[dense violet]

"yes. any vehicle system can move any amount of throughput if designed to do so"

[dusk moon]

i was about to say how youve already said

[dense violet]

personally I wouldn't use them for such a short distance though

it's doable though

[zenith pecan]

I'd say the minimum distance for a train is about 1200 metres, below that it just isn't worth it, just build a causeway.

[dusk moon]

batteries are a problem tbh i am making them just not a stupid amount

[dense violet]

you can use other fuels

[dusk moon]

tbf im thinking this'd just be easier with storage buses

[dense violet]

storage busses?

[dusk moon]

ive forgot the terminolgy its been awhile sorry

[dense violet]

describe it?

[dusk moon]

conveyor belts stacked on top of eachother

[zenith pecan]

Not sure I've ever heard of public transport being used for storage before.

[dense violet]

oh just a bunch of belts

there's no real term for it. It's just belts

[dense violet]

like this? #screenshots message

[wheat tundra]

like a bus

[dense violet]

a bus has random items coming on and off of it - this is just a stack of belts they are talking about

[naive pendant]

It's just called belts or stacked belts imo.

[dusk moon]

yeah i swear they are called storage buses

[dense violet]

no. Some people incorectly just call them busses. But ... it's just belts

[naive pendant]

A bus or bus base implies a more specific arrangement, organization setup.

[dusk moon]

it still looks the same

[dense violet]

not really.

very different function and form

[dusk moon]

is this not a bus? #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Love the note 😏

[naive pendant]

There isn't a fully agreed upon definition of a bus in this discord. People have strong thoughts.

[dense violet]

is it giving and taking random items and moving them further along? it is not.

busses are something you see in factorio a fair bit. Not much in SF

[dusk moon]

i feel you are being overly pedantic

[dense violet]

a stack of belts is just a Direct A to B

[sullen gull]

Yes, they are. always.

[dense violet]

while a bus actively exchanges items on and off meandering all over

[sullen gull]

Even here they are using the same terminology: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br5xGkLWaNQ

[naive pendant]

There's also the idea of what is the minimum complexity, size "bus". You can have a small bus without your entire save being a single bus base. So there's a lot to consider.

[sullen gull]

You're fine imo.

[dense violet]

multiple belts are not collectively called a bus xD

[dusk moon]

thats what i was thinking as soon as they said it wasnt i went straight to youtube

[dense violet]

It's not like a Murder of Crows, or a Gaggle of Geese

[dense violet]

there's a lot of fools on yt

[sullen gull]

Nah, they just love being the 'smartest person in the room'

Oh wow! They didn't block me like they said! Haha 😏

[naive pendant]

The linked video shows the designs for splitter/merger off the belts. The video clearly agrees.

[zenith pecan]

They? , just how many people did you think had you blocked?

[dusk moon]

i think its just a gender neutral term dont deep it

[sullen gull]

Eh, in this day in age, I always use they/them online 🤷‍♂️

[dense violet]

but also tinker is blocked for very bad takes.

[dusk moon]

see

[zenith pecan]

Urgh, really needs to be a non-plural for that, does my nut in every time 🤦‍♂️

[dusk moon]

i mean there is you can use 'it' but it sounds a bit rude

[zenith pecan]

I'd sooner be mis-gendered than referred to in the plural personally 🤷‍♂️ , but alas our world has gone PC nuts.

[dense violet]

it doesn't refer to people

[dense violet]

they has been a non plural pronoun for centuries now 😛

[dense violet]

and yeah the video tinker linked even they talk about a bus with a bunch of merging and splitting

[naive pendant]

Back to actually useful things, imo a minimum bus in satisfactory needs:

1. At least 2 parallel belts
2. At least 2 item types (not necessarily at the same location on the bus)
3. Belts branching off and on the bus from production lines, resource nodes, sinks

Otherwise minimum version should contain the standard complexity and design features of the large versions. Satisfactory gets very unconstrained design wise so hard to say specifics beyond the above.

[dusk moon]

i will continue to call it a bus because it sounds better

[sullen gull]

Any ways, the point is, it's a 'colloquially' accepted term to describe such an arrangement, and instead of being pedantic and correcting everyone, could just move on with the topic.

[dense violet]

what are you going to rename actual busses to as they do different things?

[naive pendant]

Continuing from above, just having 2 parallel belts from miners to sinks wouldn't count as no branchhing on/off.

[dusk moon]

giga bus

[dense violet]

mecha busses ?

[azure swan]

If we want to really get into it the term bus comes from numerous places before satisfactory or factorio. In electrical engineering it's typically when you have a bunch of signals all coming from the same region and going to the same region so they travel together.

This can be from place to place on a circuitboard or even sheet to sheet in a schematic.

[naive pendant]

I hear the term in computing and like satellite design. But idk details on those to compare.

[azure swan]

It's just a grouping of signals. In a game like this it would be a grouping of belts and/or pipes.

[dusk moon]

so im correct?

[dense violet]

computing and factory processes are fairly different.

and even then they carry 1s and 0s 😛

[naive pendant]

A similar satisfactory example is a large collection of pipes from water extractors to nuclear plants. I think it's more "a satisfying looking large group of pipes" not as much a "pipe buss". But idk.

[latent prawn]

also used in the service industry for moving stuff from tables to the kitchen and back

[azure swan]

Ultimately though language is a funny thing. Terms end up meaning whatever people use them to mean.

[naive pendant]

Yup

[sullen gull]

Again, it's just Cobalt being the usual "know-it-all"

[naive pendant]

Fun part is trying to get any group of people to agree on terminology. Tends to be a very contencious topic.

[dusk moon]

i think you two should kiss

[tulip pecan]

anyone else find it easier to build with mk5 belts instead of mk4, because far more ingredients fit in the depot?

[latent prawn]

same as mk2 vs mk3

[dusk moon]

aluminium plates are easier to make aswell imo

[rapid wren]

Geothermal should be in t3 or 4

[azure swan]

Seems a little unfair. Someone prompted for opinions and he stated his case.

[rapid wren]

car wshould definitely be in t3 or 4

[naive pendant]

Just block each other or ignore. No one wants to hear about your beef.

[rapid wren]

both geothermal and car are very cool things, and made basically useless by t5

[naive pendant]

I did T5 belts, but I don't use huge blueprints that really stress DD.

[azure swan]

Geothermal I wouldn't say ever becomes useless...just quite small.

[dense violet]

blocked msgs are pretty satisfying

[sullen gull]

This goes beyond that, but in case, I also disgree. They questioned what winter meant by a bus, and instead of just moving on with how to solve their issue, we're now sitting here discussing terminology.

[dusk moon]

tbf a free 7000 power is useful

[latent prawn]

all techs in the game have niche uses even late in the game's progression. using tractors to round up concrete from small plants next to limestone nodes, for instance

[naive pendant]

A favorite of mine is people calling something a "train bus". Nope.

[azure swan]

Geothermal is pretty nice in that it's basically free power. Zero resources per minute input. No infrastructure necessary beyond the wire to hook it up.

[dusk moon]

oh yeah the game got rid of all my blueprints can i get them back? or are they gone

[dense violet]

but what if you have 12 trains stacked on one another!?!?!

[azure swan]

I believe we call this a "commuter rail"

[naive pendant]

It's just trains

The end. Emphasis etc.

[dense violet]

aaahhhhhhh 'buusssss' 😛

[latent prawn]

i've actually used a really long bidi train in a factory in place of a 10 item belt stack

[sullen gull]

Just a bit harder to manage due to fluctuations. But yeah, free either way.

[azure swan]

Bus down Tatiana.

[dusk moon]

doesnt a train count as a bus in your definition? if its taking in resources along the way

[naive pendant]

Well the definition used the term belt not tracks.

[dense violet]

Train Bus. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1331451976629747813/train_pylon.png?ex=682b4188&is=6829f008&hm=01b3a915e2bc4fd48c655ff2633dbceaf1deefb2d237b2c102c35431644ad7ba&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1206&height=606

[rapid wren]

''free'' bruh

geothermal is literally nothing when you get to oil

and to utilize it, you have to go all over the map, and drag wires

[azure swan]

You may want to evaluate your usage of "literally"

[rapid wren]

maybe

[dusk moon]

how is it not free besides the plants themselves sure you have to go on a journey but oh well theres only 31

[dense violet]

it has it's uses.

they are fairly niche though imo

[azure swan]

Hell, I've got wires everywhere for hoverpack exploration anyways

I won't say geothermal is going to solve anyone's energy crisis though.

[dense violet]

really? I find sprinting with the jet pack much more user friendly

better momentum

[dusk moon]

its good as a backup power system for jump starting or charging batteries

[rapid wren]

geothermal would be cool if you could get it to actually solve energy needs at some point, but it's a novelty at t5. in the time you take to find 1gw of geothermal, you would have made 10gw of oil energy.

[latent prawn]

the use for geotherm is to defer building your next powerplant until after your next project instead of having to do so before

[hard ivy]

The extra 10ish GW isn't worth making my power graph all wavy

[azure swan]

The jet pack is totally way faster. I liked dragging wires around for building a radar system and so I could float around to find stuff in weird spots (and snipe those bastard spiders)

[dense violet]

well one use for geo is to charge up power storage. That way I had my 15gw back up kick start a larger fuel station. And then is there as a safety net

a little less valuable now that priority power switches exist

[latent prawn]

they're also good power for your rail system if you decide to keep that partitioned

[azure swan]

The key is getting your graph so large that you can't see the waves (and the geo is made that much less meaningful) lol

[dusk moon]

i forget sometimes rails transfer power

[sullen gull]

But then I still see the numbers in the bottom changing 😭

[naive pendant]

I can kinda see geo as a “remote” power option. But dragging poles is so easy it’s kinda eh.

[dense violet]

oh yeah. Fairly niche too though

[rapid wren]

geothermal is great for 1 thing, local power if you're on the other side of the world. but that is also solved by the somersloop around that time.

[latent prawn]

nice part about keeping your rails separate is that in event of outages, things are still moving

[dense violet]

at least 2 other options were mentioned just now xD

[azure swan]

I do think geo could use a buff. Like double the output or something. Can't use it exclusively but would be nice if it felt worth the effort.

[rapid wren]

but we can all get on board that the car should be tier 3 or 4 right.

[latent prawn]

APA?

[azure swan]

I never really used it. Slide jump jet pack is so sick.

(the car)

[dense violet]

the tiers at that point go so quick, and the car has fairly limited use, that I can't even remember when it actually comes in as it doesn't impact me at all

[dense violet]

and much more convenient for exploration and most travel

[dusk moon]

even by tier 3 or 4 you have access to pulse nobelisks right? thats all you need

[latent prawn]

like you mean the explorer?

i find it useful in that awkward stage where you don't have all the good weapons to save ya some tussles with the big critters

[dusk moon]

shatter rebar my beloved....

[latent prawn]

i've never really gotten the hang of shatter rebar

[dusk moon]

its just a shotgun

[sullen gull]

I just can't deal with the reload time on rebar lol. It's rifle or bust for me lol.

[dusk moon]

i need nuclear rounds for the gun

[latent prawn]

tbh, i learned how to snipe with the normal rebar pretty good before ex-rebar is unlockable

[sullen gull]

I've driven the map one weekend just to try and learn where I could build road or rail lol.

[sullen gull]

I just wish ex-rebar was a bit more 'targeted'. So I can take out that poison flower, but not the surrounding foliage 😒

[latent prawn]

since update 8, i've found a lot less utility in the explorer. the nerf along with its 'improved' handling just makes it less of a useful thing for me

[sullen gull]

You don't like the sudden drifting? 😏

[rapid wren]

you generally want to explore at t3 and 4 while waiting for space elevator components to craft, so a car in that tier is perfect. early t3

[dense violet]

blade runners and zip line. Most exploration is not on road like surfaces

[latent prawn]

ehh, it is good enough to not suck to drive now. i'm not going to complain 🙂

[dense violet]

add jetpack asap with liquid bio

[rapid wren]

t3/4 is the first long wait imo

[dusky relic]

There's a uranium mini-node underground that I get destroy, is there a way to remove it

[dense violet]

hand mine it

[dusky relic]

No I cant reach it

Its under the ground

[dense violet]

you can't see even an inch of it?

[sullen gull]

Is there a cave under that area?

[rapid wren]

most yeah, but when i get to the 3 big starter zones i want a car

[dusky relic]

No and no

[rapid wren]

i generally don't use zipline, it feels so cheesy 😄

[dense violet]

might need to use a save editor

[latent prawn]

sometimes the RNG spawns them in really tricky spots. if you know how to hypertube through the map, you may be able to mine it from the underside. if not, you can edit it out of your save in SCIM

[rapid wren]

zipline is a fun way to go loooong distances across the world really fast and afk

[sullen gull]

But can you edit nodes like that with a save editor? I didn't think you could?

[dense violet]

it's so convenient. and a huge amount of the terrain is perfect for it

[sullen gull]

Or, I guess the only editor I know of its SCIM .. soo ..

[rapid wren]

it's great, but cheese :]

[latent prawn]

yeah, you can delete the mineral deposits in scim

[rapid wren]

well it's not that bad, it's easy to get up, i use ladders.

i like to stay away from vertical explorations until i get turbo jetpack

[sullen gull]

Ooooh,... really... there is this one quartz node that has been driving me nuts lol

[dusky relic]

#screenshots message

[sullen gull]

runs off to scim

[dense violet]

have you saved, exited the game, and reloaded yet? might be left over radiation

[dusky relic]

Thats a thing?

[dense violet]

occasionaly radiation bug yeah

[dusky relic]

I didnt want to because theres a uranium hog here

But ill try

[dense violet]

but if it's not that and you're right there's a hidden rock you'll need to edit it or find a way to clip into the terrain

[dusky relic]

It turns out doing that did solve it

#screenshots message

[dense violet]

I've never experienced the bug myself but people crop up on the server with it sometimes 🙂

[dusky relic]

They formed back

[dense violet]

oh that's odd.

[sullen gull]

Erm, have a how-to somehwere lol, I don't see any way to show/edit the random deposits on SCIM. Nevermind, Found it

[dense violet]

never seen that before

re mine it and see how it goes? maybe something didn't register right

[dusky relic]

Yep we good

[sullen gull]

Yeah, next if you can figure out how to get this quartz deposit without editing, that'd be greeeat lol #screenshots message

[latent prawn]

I don't think it works with stuff in water, but sometimes you can leverage the hoverpack's extended interaction range to clear those

[sullen gull]

Yeah, tried that, ladder, foundations, and someone even tried nabbing it from clipping lol.

SCIM did the trick though, thank you.

[prisma thicket]

Not that it's a huge deal, but with somersloops in all the machines, 1 piece of wood = 3 packaged liquid biofuel. Kinda crazy if you ask me.

What do you get when you dismantle crashed freighters?

[sullen gull]

Random sheets and rods I believe. Never paid attention to be honest. Was just ecstatic when I knew I could clear the areas lol.

[elder apex]

1 wood -> 3 liquid biofuel vs 1 oil -> 4 rocket fuel. Not so different

[sullen gull]

When you hover over then with the dismantler, it'll show you what they will give.

[prisma thicket]

I'm not on experimental, so I can't dismantle them lol

[dense violet]

you're also adding a bunch more resources to that 😛

[sullen gull]

Ah, gotcha

[prisma thicket]

Well you do need to add 1 plastic and some water per packaged liquid biofuel, but yah, RF takes a lot more resources.

[dense violet]

I think there's an iron recipe too for packages though? makes life a bit easier often times

[prisma thicket]

Yes, there's a couple alt recipes for empty canisters, I think Steel and coated iron.

Steel takes steel ingots and coated iron takes Iron plates and copper sheets

[jovial oracle]

Is there a list where I can find all the energy values for fuel like biomass, solid biofuel, coal, compacted coal, etc? I can't find it online.

[prisma thicket]

I don't know of a list, but the wiki will tell you for each fuel individually

[jovial oracle]

I discovered coal till now. What are the other fuels?

Is it actually called fuel or some other word?

[dusky relic]

There is a fuel burner

[prisma thicket]

Leaves, Wood, Mycelia, Biomass, Solid Biofuel, Coal, Compacted Coal, Fuel, Liquid Biofuel, Turbofuel, Rocket Fuel, Ionized fuel. There's also Uranium, Plutionium and Ficsonium fuel rods for nuclear power.

[dusky relic]

Which can burn oil and stuff from oil

[sullen gull]

I don't believe the fuel gens can burn straight oil though. I could be wrong ...

[prisma thicket]

I guess technically alien protein can be made into biomass as well, but it's not the greatest use of it.

[dusky relic]

You right you right

[sacred summit]

I didn't realize until today that the "Snap" feature with a foundation is to a world-grid, so all my things would be aligned (that breaks my heart, btw...)
Is there a way to do this on a vertical axis? It looks like it snaps (x,y) coordinates, but the height is still based on terrain level.

[dense violet]

snaps in 1m increments

but also it's completely uneeded

and a trap if you like design

[sacred summit]

How so?

I like crisp, linear designs. straight lines, sharp 90-degree conveyor bends, etc.

[dense violet]

well, you never need to connect foundations farom distant factories to each other

even if you do you there are trivial methods to clip them together in any case

and as for design, the world grid doesn't mesh with the environment and locks you to 90 degree angles for everything

[sacred summit]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-movie-avengers-infinity-war-gif-18122928

[dense violet]

if architecture is a goal for you, the world grid is an enemy.
depends if you care about it though

[sacred summit]

Yeah, I get that you can clip them to immitate the result

[dense violet]

convenient video if you do feel like connecting foundations across the map to different grids https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX_2i8T3Dbw&t=2s

[sacred summit]

But I don't feel like clipping like this is somehow "superior design"
https://imgur.com/B7w7leh

[dense violet]

i mean that's an internal factory grid. Doesn't rely on a world grid

[sacred summit]

Yeah, because - as I thought I started the convo with - I just now learned there WAS a world grid

[dense violet]

you always had the option to zoop foundations out to your next factory 🙂

[sacred summit]

I eventually started to!

[dense violet]

but if you're not going to keep doing that, why do they need to be on the same grid?

like, if you have a factory in the SW corner and a factory in the NE corner, if you're not linking them with foundations, why need they be on the WG?

[sacred summit]

Because later, when/if I grow, I don't want to deal with the weird clipping shit. I know I'm a rookie, but I feel like that's the basic principle behind why anyone would use it

Also, I'm kinda tired of this shit 🤣 https://imgur.com/DTnIOsv

Sometimes I'm in the mood to have all the complex, multiplayered shapes.... In this playthrough, not really

[zenith pecan]

That's the huge downside of my approach with tunnels, to make the connections not look like shit, I have to have them aligned on "a" grid, doesn't have to be the world one, just the same alignment.

[sacred summit]

I'm sorry, I just saw that you added this question - and this is a good one. But, to answer it... I would eventually like to add a fully flushed road system to connect everything - and trains, etc. - and I'd like them to all mesh evenly

[sacred summit]

Yep, exactly! I prefer the sharp, inorganic perfection of things I make. I like how it contrasts with the organic world

[rapid wren]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map#3;50302;74341|realisticLayer|oilWellImpure;oilWellNormal;oilWellPure is this way outdates or am i using it wrong?

i figured it out 😄

''resource node'' not wells

[dense violet]

that's where that video gets into it 😛 easily mesh any roads or rails.

though you don't need continuous foundations for rail

[peak wasp]

Ok...

Maybe... Twenty hours spent trying to build this one factory

The first try, I hated it

The second try, it has gone a lot better... But I still don't like it

Maybe I should restart... Third time's the charm, right?

I need a new new philosophy in building this one!

[zenith pecan]

What did you have in mind when you made the first couple of attempts? , it might be worth stepping back and looking up some ideas instead of banging your head into the desk?

[peak wasp]

So the first factory, I built it basically in rows. However, it wasn't one row of constructors, another row of furnaces, another row of just assemblers, etc

Everything was mixed together. It was horrible

[dense violet]

that can work. Just have to plan it out in chunks

[zenith pecan]

Also floors, the lift holes are god like.

[peak wasp]

And now with the second try, I kept things more in clumps. However, the problem this time was in how conveyor belts were run. I tried doing "This smelter produces 60 steel ingots which go to these three specific machines in this cluster over here"

I think for this third factory: more manifolds. Big boy manifolds. I have belts that can do 270 items per minute, why am I keeping my steel ingot belts separated!?

[sacred summit]

Yeah, I don't want continuous foundations for something like that, but I like the idea of it being perfectly straight/level for miles and miles (that's kilometres for any of you fantasy folk reading this 😛 ).

[peak wasp]

I mean, just look at #screenshots for my logistics layer of the factory:

[dense violet]

show some over head images in #design-and-architecture if you want advice

[peak wasp]

I did, but the problem is with my philosophy

That's the core of it. It's all wrong because the way I thought about building it in the first place is wrong!

But this time it'll work :3

[zenith pecan]

A logistics floor, or even under the factory itself, especially one that takes advantage of the 3d space can solve a lot of problems without the nasty visual of clipping.

[peak wasp]

That's what I did

But it's still all wrong

[dense violet]

pinged you in other channel

[sacred summit]

I had to do this in order to make the MkI blueprint designer not utterly worthless for anything beyond the most trivial of designs (in which case, blueprinting them would serve almost no purpose)

[zenith pecan]

The mk1 comes in handy for mass repetitive deployments, like pre configured fuel generators with a positioned pipe splitter up front, imagine the extra work when deploying 720 of them,

[sacred summit]

Well, by the time you're doing 720 of them, you're probably not using MK1 right?

[zenith pecan]

I still chuck down mk1's for fast on the fly prints simply because it is outright trivial.

[dense violet]

just having a single machine with power/belt/pipe logistics already attached in a mk1 bp can speed things up and make for flexible factories

[zenith pecan]

Those tiny prints can speed up deployment immensely, don't write off that mk1.

[split island]

one thing that always helps when I build a new factory is to first make a massive temporary slab and lay out all my machines on it in tight rows. That helps me figure out the rough volume they all take up and how to divide them up into floors.

also, underhang conveyor poles are great for logistics floors, since they allow you to lay out belts on the ceiling as though it was floor space.

[wanton stag]

Is there a way to mark factories on your map? Like give them icons like the truck/train stations

[leaden ether]

Yes you can make custom markers on the map

[wanton stag]

How

[leaden ether]

On the botom of the map on the right of the row of Icons there is a new icon button if I remember right.

[swift kernel]

I'm surprised there's not more mods for icon packs

I really wish there were more monochrome icons

[leaden ether]

I agree, the icons are pretty limited. :/

[zenith pecan]

More icons definitely needed.

[peak wasp]

I wish there were bombs that could destroy buildings

I wanna be able to just throw a nobelisk and have it all go away, without having to dismantle it all

[wanton stag]

Stupid question but I saw in the menu screen a factory cart using an elevator to go up and down floors, is that actually possible?

[steel sluice]

In the mk1 bps I like to set up 1 or 2 machines with wiring partly done, because I hate running power

[dense violet]

you know mass dismantle exists right?

[wanton stag]

????

[dense violet]

hold ctrl to target many items. You can just paint an area with your cursor

[wanton stag]

That's not what I was talking about sir-

[dense violet]

ah I was trying to reply to BH

woops

misclick

[dense violet]

yes elevators are in vanilla in 1.1

[peak wasp]

I do, but it's kinda annoying to have to be precise with it, y'know?

Being left with a few hanging conveyors and cleaning up and making sure it's all gone

[dense violet]

there's also a button to only highlight certain items so you don't need to be accurate

[peak wasp]

Bah. I just wanna blow it up

[wanton stag]

Im talking about in the menu screen for experimental in the background you can see what looks like the factory cart using the elevator to go up and down, I'm just wondering if that's smth you can set up ingame since from what I've seen you can't set the elevator to run automatically

[dense violet]

ah probably not. was there no one in it in the video driving?

[leaden ether]

Heh, Would be nice to be able to streach a cube shape over an area and click to disintigrate everything inside. Throwing everything other than sloops, shards and spheres into the void. Everything else is expendable.

[wanton stag]

I'm talking about in the main menu of the game, I don't see anyone in the cart or lift

[dense violet]

ah haven't paid attention.
you can use jump pads for this though

[wanton stag]

I thought jump pads aren't precise?

[dense violet]

pretty precise.
just make sure there's a path marker on the pad to launch it, and delete any that spawn mid air

[coarse oasis]

Hi

[swift kernel]

Does anyone else use callsigns? Just curious

[prisma thicket]

What do you mean by callsigns?

[swift kernel]

Like... Shorthand. Often used in radio terminology, like in trucking or aviation, but really an industrial standard.

Like, I have a 2.3.4 system

First two letters are the factory, next three letters indicate function, last four letters indicate item

So something like PF.MIN.COPP would mean "Planetfall Plains Factory Miner Copper"

[sullen gull]

Havn't before, but I like the concept for sure.

[swift kernel]

I use this system for power management and truck routes primarily, although I like to try to label rooms in the factory as I go so that it's not hard to navigate

[dense violet]

I'm sure I've probably used similar short hand, but don't tend to bother wit hit that much. Not enough individual spots to have to need them

[swift kernel]

I really build out my factories as I play. So this system really comes in handy. Especially as I start switching to priority power switches. Makes it so much easier to understand which switch does what

[reef prawn]

Hi guys, im trying to play multiplayer using Ani's Modpack , but im getting conection lost and back to main screen does anyone got a similar problem?

[fossil ice]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @dense violet

[swift kernel]

You're better off asking the satisfactory modded server for anything indepth

[prisma thicket]

Why do you call it planetfall plains? Just out of curiosity.

[swift kernel]

Because that's where I fell. I made Planetfall there.

[prisma thicket]

Ahhhhh, makes sense.

[swift kernel]

I've had that name for it since beta

I don't use the official biome names. I like using my own

Like Sodapop Lake is just north of Planetfall Plains. Because there's four coal patches there so the lake is carbonated.

[prisma thicket]

Lol I like that one

[swift kernel]

And there's Strange Alien Spire just north of there, through the cave. And then Caterium Falls is pretty self explanatory. And north of Caterium Falls is Kerosene Coast

And even though I've played since Closed Beta, that's really the only parts of the map I've ever really built in.

[steel sluice]

I work through the NATO phonetic alphabet for labelling factories, zones and associated tractors and trains kinda similar.

[swift kernel]

Ooooh! Yes! Please share!

[steel sluice]

Useful for A to B or G to K truck

And chemical abbreviations

[swift kernel]

Chemical abbreviations are great.

[steel sluice]

(or sometimes made up ones, i.e. Bx for bauxite)

[prisma thicket]

Now you got me trying to remember the periodic table lol

[swift kernel]

I was going to use more of them, but they usually felt unnecessarily complex. But it's how I ended up with the callsign CUSH for copper sheets

[steel sluice]

Hahah that's why I make some up 😇

[swift kernel]

My callsign for water is DHMO

[prisma thicket]

Di-hydrogen monoxide, took me a second lol

[swift kernel]

Lol it's a great prank with a long history

You should look up the wiki article for it if you want a laugh

[zenith pecan]

It's amazing how that long name can make simple h20 seem quite harmful.

[prisma thicket]

yah, it's especially funny when you warn people about the dangers of it, and they don't realize you're just talking about water.

[zenith pecan]

The solvent properties etc 🤣

[swift kernel]

Too much DHMO will kill a person

[prisma thicket]

The fact it has a 100% kill ratio in those that consume it. Don't mention the fact it takes 70-100+ years to do so lol

[swift kernel]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_parody

[steel sluice]

It actually gets into your cells in your skin too!!

Overexposure will change the texture of your fingers and toes!

[zenith pecan]

It will also ruin your computer if exposed!

[swift kernel]

It is a known fact that excessive DHMO will accelerate the corrosion of iron

[steel sluice]

It's airborne 😱

[hollow vector]

well pioneers have suits

[swift kernel]

Get those gas filters ready, just in case

[prisma thicket]

anyone have experience playing on a curved monitor? does it make and discernable difference?

[swift kernel]

The game is noticeably curved

[prisma thicket]

Har har 😑

[swift kernel]

My fiance thinks I'm funny

[prisma thicket]

Good for them I suppose

[sacred summit]

I run mine in a ... I think fairly methodical way, so I don't mind doing it. I really don't want to keep poo'ing all over the blueprint system, because, all things considered, this is a pretty damned good automation/logistics-management game.... but coming from Factorio, Captain of Industry and Dyson Sphere, I'm just reeeally hard-pressed to speak positively about the game's blueprint system 😅

Woah. Yikes

Screen didn't update I guess... someone was something something about using the blueprint system to help run electrical 😂

[dense violet]

that's their job 😛

[sacred summit]

I do. And not really, not with modern monitors. Unless you make it a deliberate point to cock your monitor so you stare at it sideways, it's an unnecessary frill for minimal benefit compared to the cost.

TL;DR: If you're designing a system and being budget conscious, the curve is something you can pass on.

[swift kernel]

I'll let them know you said that

[gusty socket]

@tiny flicker just use power slugs smh

Until we meet again

[swift kernel]

Lol, I've had that happen. You try to join a conversation and then suddenly five hours wizz by and no one knows what you're talking about

[leaden ether]

There isn't a smart merger is there :/ I would love to have a merger where I can say "All" from one input and then "Underflow" from another. Basically the exact inverse of the any/overflow combination of the smart splitter. This would prevent the need for having to sink overflow in situations where one input cannot be blocked but a second "fill in" source can.

[dense violet]

priority merger in 1.1

[leaden ether]

1.1 cannot get here soon enough 😄

[dense violet]

but it's trivial design around that

as production lines inthe game are static

[leaden ether]

Sort of... Requires a lot of fiddling with underclocking or putting in a sprt splitter and sinking overflow. The priority merger would let the machines sort themselves out 🙂

[dense violet]

what are you trying to do?

[tepid canopy]

when will be 1.1 not experimental?

[leaden ether]

Aluminum plant, refinery produces silica, need to sink it into the foundry process, but also need to inject a lot more hand made silica as well if even a tiny bit too much silica is added, the refinery gets even backed up, it halts, which then halting the foundries in a deadlock. So to be safe I have to carefully underclock what OI'm adding to prevent this.

[dense violet]

when it's done

[tepid canopy]

nice

[dense violet]

ok so that requires extremely basic clocking.
And you can choose to not make it injection too

[leaden ether]

I was super close and it ran at lightning speed for like 30 mintues, but fractional errors build up over time and POW

[dense violet]

and keeping it split is even more trivial https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1373880104777682994/image.png?ex=682c050e&is=682ab38e&hm=7c8d8a22d075a1b8984bf2578fd1c3cb7e19d14aa2d15fa232809b02e9222af1&

[leaden ether]

The priority merger would act as a safety valve (as would an overflow splitter, but that's more work. You could run right up to the limits without worrying about a deadlock.

[young sun]

Joined this server in hopes to possibly help my partner who does all of the actual factory stuff in the game and I do the exploring to say:
Gas stinger

[dense violet]

they are a time yeah. jump half way across the map

[boreal musk]

not bad enough, we need an actual radiated stinger

[young sun]

I had no idea the red forest was a late game area as I just explore wherever I can currently in search of Mercer Sphere lore n such and got bodied by the giant jumper

[dense violet]

ehhh.. late game is a bit of a wobbly term. There's a few spots where you'll find the big ones but not many.

as long as you've unlocked the basic exploration gear and jet packs you should be fine

oh and turn on arachnophobia mode. Makes them easier to see

[young sun]

That’s fair!! I suppose it’s just more of a “hostile” area then.

I have most of the exploration stuff, but I think we’re still a bit behind before we have the jet pack which would be wonderful against giant jumping menace

[dense violet]

and blade runners. speeeeed

[young sun]

I may do that both for this and also, despite no real fear of spiders, stingers scare me SO bad

[dense violet]

most of the world has fairly basic critters with only some big ones near valuable items you want to pick up

except for the swamp. They're everywhere there

[hollow vector]

i hate the swamp

you have to build up every time if you dont want to deal with 12 stingers

[young sun]

I haven’t discovered the swamp YET but I know it’s out there and my poor little explorer will become a pile of FICSIT slop

[tiny flicker]

Hello

Is there a way to shrink down 500 smelters with smth similar like foundries or smth I don’t wanna deal with water rn as dune desert so maybe foundries to make like 16400 iron per min

[boreal musk]

alloy iron alt use foundry, but it also need copper as input

[wheat tundra]

you can use pure ingots but it might be worse

[boreal musk]

not much tho, its like 1 copper to 4 iron

[frail sleet]

Stingers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-37j-nUFuIo

[plain hatch]

Iron wire or rescan early game?

[tiny flicker]

Thanks man

[tiny flicker]

I still need 16400 raw iron 😭

100 HMF is gonna take years

Im losing my mind just building bru

[reef basin]

sounds like too many HMFs 🙂

[frail sleet]

(excluding pure/leached)

putting 1 copper into iron alloy generates 3.5 iron

putting 1 iron into copper alloy generates 1 copper

so using both alloys is a substantial resource efficiency improvement, at little cost if you already had both around anyway

[tiny flicker]

Real it is

[reef basin]

what's the reason of making so many?

[sacred summit]

For those of you who don't like to elevate your building (I don't mean 40-50 blocks, but just getting things off the ground), what general design "principles" do you tend to follow to avoid the unsightly tangle of conveyor noodles everywhere? Or do you just embrace the chaos?

[tiny flicker]

I do stuff like this #screenshots message

[tiny flicker]

Just because I wanna have more than one per min (and I was probably crazy or on smth at the time) plus I felt like it would help in the long term

I’m just crazy ok? I admit it

[boreal musk]

i did the exact same design, i just need to place foundation on ground level to match the elevation

[dense violet]

sounds like you're using low iron efficient recipes

[tiny flicker]

I am not using any alts because I don’t wanna deal with water nor do I wanna build like 200 foundries (I say that last part but I need 500+ smelters)

I want to take up room in the dune desert cuz it would look nice idk

I don’t feel ready to play JUST yet

[dense violet]

here https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=qeRSU2bZc1CfGVSCS2oh

only 5600 iron and only a bit of water for concrete

[tiny flicker]

Give me like another 3 months+ 5 months give or take

[sterile blade]

Sushi and building giving priority to logistic rather than anything else.
Eg: first I figure out the beltwork/logistics, then the building's design follows based on that

[tiny flicker]

I have the concrete. Done tho

[dense violet]

ok do the rest then.

[tiny flicker]

It’s the pure concrete alt

[tiny flicker]

Isn’t there one with foundries?

Like with iron and coal?

[dense violet]

just ... pls read the link instead of me reading it at you

[tiny flicker]

Oh yea

Mb mb

[dense violet]

only 187 smelters for iron and you can divide that by 2.5 if you over clock

[sacred summit]

I like that. I've made poles to use to hang conveyors for shipping between locations.

But the conveyor distance is limited enough that I still have looked every 20-some meters lol

[tiny flicker]

Man that is so much easier than mine 😭

[dense violet]

yes. Alts make a big difference 😛

[tiny flicker]

They do frfr I don’t wanna have a LA highway if screws anyway

[dense violet]

these also, imo, simplify the process as encased pipes and steeled frame take the same part

[dense violet]

I like boted plate/frames. I just use steel screws right next to them. No screw high way

[tiny flicker]

Right right

[tiny flicker]

Real

[dense violet]

anyway, gl with it xD

[tiny flicker]

I have this weird monorail type thing for iron but like all the iron nodes are spread through the whole biome so train prob bad when I wanna cover up the biome

[tiny flicker]

Ima work sometime next year haha (I am still scared to play)

[dense violet]

just takes practice 🙂

[tiny flicker]

And my sanity

Anyway time to have nightmares about iron again

[stray patio]

Should i make multiple factorys for the same item or just expand one factory and overclock stuff?

[reef basin]

personally I'd recommend the first one, but in the end it's up to you

[dense violet]

just overclocking things isn't a solution, you also need more resources

[reef basin]

you may find https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency interesting to read

[stray patio]

Im at work and i just wanna play satisfactory 😔

Just throw me on mars ill do it irl

[swift kernel]

I think you'll find it a lot more miserable in reality, especially without a build gun.

You think building factories can sometimes feel tedious now? Try actually having to screw everything together by hand

[last jackal]

Maintaining a handful of laboratory grade furnaces is already exhausting enough

[robust nymph]

At least use heavy encased frame, it is cheaper in every way but most notably only ~50% of the iron cost of normal recipe

Use solid steel too

There are plenty alt recipes that are incredibly useful without needing water :)

This is how I did mine #screenshots message

Also in the dessert, but if you don’t want to use pure iron just use the iron alloy 🤷‍♂️

[thick vine]

heavy flexible frame 🤤

[stray patio]

ill get a alien as a slave. Thats my build gun

[leaden turret]

aliens to massage 2 ababababab all hang out in #1201555265942724758

[stray patio]

I cang figure out what you‘re trying to say 😭

[left totem]

massage 2 ab smth is the planet on satisfactory

[thick vine]

crazy idea:

what if every time you build something, time gets paused and a tiny alien goes and builds the thing and then restarts time

crazier idea:
what if the tiny alien also has a build gun to build the smaller parts, which pauses time again and triggers an even smaller alien with a build gun

and it's just aliens all the way down

[robust nymph]

MASSAGE-2(A-B)b

[leaden turret]

I can never remember it without looking it up

[void gorge]

Same, and my salary takes a hit every time

[leaden turret]

did you catch last week's pokemon reference? #satisfactory message

[void gorge]

Hehe... 👀

[robust nymph]

What? How? XD

[prime summit]

1.1 full release when?

[leaden turret]

soon™️

[prime summit]

my freind uses gforce so i cant play with him

[prime summit]

https://tenor.com/view/dam-damn-gif-27530020

[leaden turret]

take that up with nvidia

[prime summit]

i mean

multibillion company listening to a single complaint i dont imagine how that will turn out

i know theyl leave me on read or something

[leaden turret]

it's geforcenow that prevents access to the experimental branch

[dense violet]

depends how much fire you use

[prime summit]

hmmm arson

would be effective

[dense violet]

what a rip. When military sets fire to things it's collataral damage, civilians? arson.

[prime summit]

ill use war as a business

[dense violet]

I hear PMCs are very profitable lately

[prime summit]

i gtg

[dense violet]

on too many watch lists now?

[robust nymph]

It’s fairly simple tbh:

MASSAGE-2 the telescope/expedition/survey/whatever that discovered the solar system

Capital letter denotes the star, and as the system is a binary system it is (A-B)

The planets in the system are named by adding a lowercase letter to this, with the first planet being “b”, and any subsequently discovered planets getting the next letters (NOT in order from close-far from the star)

Lowercase a is not used for the planets as this is used to denote the star (or both stars, for this part of the naming they are considered a single entity)

[leaden turret]

wall of text not gonna stick in brain, problem is remembering it

[robust nymph]

It helps me remeber things when I know WHY they are the way they are, figured it might help you too :)

[leaden turret]

brain no worky

[robust nymph]

No harm if it doesn’t help, it’s mostly unimportant information anyway 🤷‍♂️

[robust nymph]

Fair enough

[leaden turret]

<nihilism bingo> all information is unimportant

[void gorge]

Not tomorrow

[leaden turret]

new CM smile emote, when?

[ocean fulcrum]

Release confirmed Wednesday noted thanks

[leaden turret]

Shadow drop today, confirmed

[ocean fulcrum]

Is discord being weird or just me

[robust nymph]

But likely within the next 3 centuries

[leaden turret]

[insert anti-capitalist rant about discord here]

[robust nymph]

Gonna have to be more specific than that

[ocean fulcrum]

Was taking a bit to send my messages and load emotes

[robust nymph]

Hmm

Not having any issues tbh

[ocean fulcrum]

Guess it's just me

[robust nymph]

Not more than usual at least, the mobile app has gone backwards over the years in general

[stray patio]

Yesterday?

[coarse geode]

Real

[knotty peak]

Hi everyone! If I play on the experimental version, will I be able to go back to the release version (when the release comes out) without losing my saves?

[tall lantern]

yes, 1.1 saves will work in 1.1

[simple relic]

I'm stuck playing via GeForce Now T_T No experimental for me. 🥲

[leaden turret]

@knotty peak back up your saves anyway.

[knotty peak]

Yes, that goes without saying. I was just wondering if it's possible to go back from the experimental branch to the release branch with experimental saves. I entered the test branch for the first time. Couldn't resist it

[leaden turret]

it's fine for the same version and going forward (mostly), just not backwards

[knotty peak]

Does anyone have screenshots or blueprints with vertical splitters or mergers? Now i dont have ideas for this.

[robust nymph]

I think older saves have always been compatible with newer versions right? It just breaks stuff due to terain/resource node/machine/recipe changes

[leaden turret]

yup

[robust nymph]

If you don’t have ideas for it you might not have a use for it (yet) 🤷‍♂️

[split badger]

getting a weird bug, it's night but the sun is out

[tall lantern]

probably a moon

[leaden turret]

which one

[split badger]

the stars are out, and yes it is the sun, it's super bright

[leaden turret]

it's a binary system, which one

[split badger]

wait are there 2 suns?

[leaden turret]

yes

[alec guiness voice] that's no moon

[chrome ether]

any1 else cant wait for tier 10 lol

[sacred summit]

I don't get how you psychos look at terrain hugging foundations like this and say "Yep... I wanna build on THAT!"
🤣 😭
https://imgur.com/HAlMKkT

[split badger]

what's tier 10 going to do?

also i ran into a hard drive that's both great and sucks

[tall lantern]

it'll be a land of pure imagination

[split badger]

polymer resin with oil, and heavy frames using rubber instead of steel pipes

[chrome ether]

no idea prob some knida alien tech

[tall lantern]

I wouldn't expect to see a new tier in the vaguely near future

[swift kernel]

When I first played the game I tried this so hard. I've since learned to get better at finding a happy medium.

[robust nymph]

Hug the terain a little less tightly

[swift kernel]

I'll have some bumps in my first floor from time to time, but usually only one, and I always use ramps to smooth it out

[robust nymph]

Right now you’re strangling the terrain rather than hugging it

[sacred summit]

Yep, I'll tinker with it to try to do just that. It just feels a little like by the time I do level it out enough that it's easily usable, that I may as well hve thrown a few pillars/columns down and just went flat! lol

[robust nymph]

It works better for large factories, where you can both have large platforms and variations in height, rather than having to choose one or the other

[sacred summit]

Yeah, I can definitely see that being the case

[sinful bobcat]

Why build with terrain

When concrete slab of victory can cover it

[sacred summit]

lol honestly, just self-imposed difficulty

[sinful bobcat]

Depends on how big you building

[sacred summit]

Just using some posts to elevate will solve terrain problems, but it also makes factory building quite a bit simpler too

And having a mountain of boxes across the terrain also gets a little bland 😅

[sinful bobcat]

I’m gunna be honest, the terrain is fine

It’s the big bone shit

[sacred summit]

I know I'll never get it, but I just want terrain deformation. 😭

[sinful bobcat]

Way to complicated to implement

[sacred summit]

At this stage, yes.

[sinful bobcat]

Unreal isn’t the best with terrain deformation

Look at deep rocks terrain deformation, it’s a bit scuffed

[sacred summit]

I've never heard anyone actually complain abotu it tbh

[sinful bobcat]

It’s not bad scuffed but it’s not very accurate unless you a driller

[sacred summit]

Not saying it's an impeccable vision of what terrain deformation should look like in the year 3025. Just that I don't hear complaints about it.

[sinful bobcat]

Deep rock was also made in mind to be destroyed

Satisfactory was not

[swift kernel]

Mostly just wish the nuke Nobelisks could get rid of more structures. Like some of the archways

While I like the archway stone formations, one of them goes right through one of my roads.

[sinful bobcat]

Fuck ass impossible rock formation archways

[sacred summit]

I really just want to build slightly into mountains. And not have it be a flustercuck of clipping.

[leaden turret]

apply to CSS, make it happen https://jobs.coffeestain.com/jobs/5640650-senior-programmer

[swift kernel]

It's at the tail end, where the road meets the natural pathway, so I'm able to handwave it. But it's definitely not satisfying.

[sacred summit]

And to feel like I'm actually conquering the terrain, instead of just working around it 😅

[leaden turret]

giant toenail clippings

[sacred summit]

Only have about half of those qualifications 🤣

[sinful bobcat]

Woah concrete be upon ye

I hope they never fix trucks

[leaden turret]

🤔 if there were a Power Wash Simulator dlc pack for Satisfactory, should it implement the Bean randomly wandering in the way of the power washer and stopping you from cleaning? 🤔

[alpine jolt]

if yous speed ran, how long would it take to phase 4?

[leaden turret]

presumably slightly less than 10 hours, 25 minutes, and 19 seconds

[atomic notch]

Yeah

Make a power washer that sends them to god

[mortal ginkgo]

Greetings all, a question if I may: I know Metal Pillars cant be colored but can the Concrete Pillars can?

I mean the "Big Concrete Pillar" for example

[dense violet]

they should be able to. try it

[zenith pecan]

Coloured concrete however is very muted, it will never be as vivid as the painted beams for example.

Welp, time to design a reanimated SAM factory that will take up 10,200 SAM ore, edit: here's what 10,200 SAM in one spot looks like: #screenshots message

[rapid wren]

does coated concrete affect performance?

it does have a reflection

[latent prawn]

yeah, if you use a lot of it in an enclosed space with many light sources, it can cause fps to drop, but all of that only happens within render distance

my experience is that once you're done building a factory, it is pretty rare to return to it, so use your own judgement

[gilded scroll]

quick question, I though Rail transfered power.. is it no longer the case or has it never been and I am dumb

[leaden turret]

• is your rail connected to a train station at both ends?
• is the train station plugged in?
• is the power turned on?

[gilded scroll]

Yes, Yes, Yes

it was wierd, I have a video of it. might post a bug report. the rail had power but it was transfering to the station, so i took down the station and rebuilt it and its fixed

[deft axle]

Just hit steel, any tips?

[naive pendant]

@deft axle Uh, make sure you have dimensions depots in use.

[vestal mica]

I am a big fan of the solid steel ingot alt recipe

[placid stirrup]

First steel doesn't need to be huge, upgrading or creating new steel production lines are in the near future

[thick vine]

dont be afraid to make outposts that are kinda disconnected from your factory

[swift kernel]

Actually I can help with this

Here, this video is where I learned about this. I'm actually using it rn. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BnsWV4R4acs

Basically, try manually increasing your saturation instead of relying on the slider.

[reef basin]

tip: play the game instead of fishing for tips, don't let others spoil the game for you 🙂

[swift kernel]

Everyone plays differently. Play whichever way is most fun for you

[reef basin]

sure, but that means I can give my tip, as it's one way to play

[swift kernel]

I mean.. your tip is to invalidate their asking for tips?

[reef basin]

my tip is to explore the game on your own pace in any way you want, and ask only if you're stuck onto something, rather than getting spoonfed answers for things the game explains to you and you should learn on your own 🤷

they are free to ignore the tip or follow it 🤷

[swift kernel]

Aight, fair enough

I misunderstood your tone.

I apologize

[brave wasp]

Most tips for this game are pretty straight forward. Make enough things. Provide Enough Power. Fun.

[lime ermine]

Finished my rocket fuel plant!

[split badger]

speaking of tier 10, i''d like to see Mk III pipes

[lime ermine]

Now time to make superposition oscillators

[split badger]

either 900 or 1200 ml of fluids and gasses per minute

[lime ermine]

There's nothing we really need that for though

[split badger]

the faster throughput can hlep with machine clog though

well unless all the pipes are full 😅

[wheat tundra]

Make more pipes

Problem solved

[split badger]

i need more copper sheets and plastic then

[stray patio]

i wanna be huge tho

[robust nymph]

Trust me, that gets boring

Aesthetically at least

[placid stirrup]

The future upgrades you unlock will likely have you rebuilding or at least feel "buyers remorse" if you go big for the first one

[brave wasp]

Steel probably better done in isolated pockets near where they are needed honestly

[robust nymph]

It’s not about the actual steel factory, it’s just his name

[robust nymph]

So is anything else

[coarse geode]

can i load/unload 2 different items from the same truck station?

[robust nymph]

Yes, but I recommend you don’t unless you are very sure you can consume both items fast enough

[mossy phoenix]

Hey question

How do i fix constant power issues and generally being confused how to actually expand

[leaden turret]

do math

or turn off power requirements and just have fun

[robust nymph]

One can fill up too far and fill the station, stopping the other item from coming in, and bringing your production that depends on the station to a halt

[hybrid crystal]

What Tier are you in

[robust nymph]

Build more power, make sure you give your generators enough coal/water/fuel/fuel rods.

[mossy phoenix]

Atm im in phase 2 and struggling to figure out really where to start atm im trying to make coal power but routing all the way to where thats convient is a bit of a pain atm

[hybrid crystal]

Can you build Power Towers?

[mossy phoenix]

Also just to check

There isnt line loss is there?

[hybrid crystal]

Correct

[mossy phoenix]

As in power poles?

[hybrid crystal]

It's a new building in phase 2

[lime ermine]

Power towers are something else

They're far better then poles

[hybrid crystal]

It lets you run lines 3x as far

and they're easier to use for ziplines

[vestal mica]

good bot. 🤷

[lime ermine]

And zipline without having to jump at every pole

[robust nymph]

Power lines have no limitations, they have infinite throughput and no power loss

Only limitation is how far you can stretch a single cable

[hybrid crystal]

Anyway, ideally get at least a bit of steel beam production going for mk3 belts, then look for the nearest cluster of ~4 coal nodes with some water nearby. Then fully utilize that for coal power. Folks in #math-and-meta can help you figure out how many coal generators you can support.

[robust nymph]

@reef basin got demoted to bot :p

[hybrid crystal]

The way to avoid power issues is to build more power than you need, before you need it. So if I look at my power network and I'm using 80% of available power, I go and at least double my production.

[reef basin]

that assumes being a bot is a demotion 😛

[thick vine]

and charge some power storages disconnected from your grid because you're a human (unless ur greeny, who is a bot) and humans make mistakes (like clogging your entire power system). starting that from nothing is not fun

[mossy phoenix]

There are multiple tiers of belts?

[thick vine]

maaaaaany

[mossy phoenix]

Huh aparently i have mk2 unlocked

I havent touched them, mostly as i have very limited reinforced plate production

[robust nymph]

I mean, I guess you don’t need to worry about emotions anymore?

[mossy phoenix]

Atm i cant make smart plates for more than a few seconds without my power going out or having to turn half my base off

[reef basin]

I never worried about them 😄

[robust nymph]

Yes, up to mk6 at 1200/m (20x your mk1 belt)

[hybrid crystal]

In tier 3 you want to get as quickly as possible to a point where you're using only mk3 belts

[thick vine]

that means you shouldve built more power yesterday

[stray patio]

i dont even have a clue what yall were talking about

[mossy phoenix]

Teir 3?

[mossy phoenix]

I did i have like 6 generators

[hybrid crystal]

Maybe start with a smaller coal node just to get some baseline power going. If you're in grassy fields, the one to the east is good.

[robust nymph]

Yeah, get a tiny coal power plant set up. Don’t worry about it being efficient, just make sure it produces some power so you can make the stuff you need for a proper coal power plant

[thick vine]

build 6 more then

[mossy phoenix]

Thats what im trying to do