satisfactory

[swift kernel]

It looks kinda like a mini whale tic

[prisma thicket]

Are you talking about the blue beetle looking guys with the really long pink legs?

[swift kernel]

Yeah!

Like, I've never seen them before.

It blew my mind

[prisma thicket]

I had no idea they released poison clouds O.o

[swift kernel]

They're really really small

I drove right up to it and it was like a small breath

[prisma thicket]

Farting bugs, wonderful xD

[empty spoke]

whats like the best sign to display icons only

[zenith pecan]

I used the 2 metre squares for that, but what is the purpose you're wanting to do that for, mine was to identify what's in a storage can.

[empty spoke]

mines to say STOP oncoming traffic

but with just a X ig

[zenith pecan]

The squares will do that, the question is are they large enough for what you need.

[empty spoke]

#design-and-architecture message

[coarse geode]

there are diamonds?

😭

wtf is dark matter crystal

oh wait

[prisma thicket]

That's late game stuff, you don't need to worry about that yet.

[coarse geode]

its not that bad

coal and quartz seems easy to get

[quick sky]

I just covered most of the man in radars and man oh man, was I ignorant about how many resources I can exploit...

Time to show these natives what pollution is

[prisma thicket]

That's the true Ficsit spirit xD

[leaden ether]

I feel like it's time to make a nuclear plant as getting into the tier 9 items get's hugely power expensive. But I really don't want to deal with collecting/storing waste. While "not worth it" I would like to do the full bore wasteless nuke plant, but that requires all tier 9 parts to accomplish. So it seems like I'm kind of stuck having to build another large oil/fuel plant for now. :/

[zenith pecan]

You don't need nuclear if you want to go nuts on power.

[prisma thicket]

You can make a large rocket fuel plant and get by without the waste

[zenith pecan]

You can also build smaller distributed oil/power facilities and/or rocket fuel, you're not required to build one vast monolithic monstrosity

[coarse geode]

one vast monolithic monstrosity is cooler tho

[prisma thicket]

Hmmmm I just freed up an impure coal node near my coal power plant, do I overclock it to set up 8 more coal gens or send the coal elsewhere to be made into boomsticks?

[coarse geode]

what are boomsticks?

[prisma thicket]

Nobelisks, explosives xD

[leaden ether]

Yeah I used up all the oil (nearly) on the western islands, I'll probablky go for a rocket fuel plant (to do something different) at the large crater east of the grass starting area. As a final capper to the story though I want to do the full nuke plant just for fun if nothing else 🙂

[zenith pecan]

I have one vast monolithic monstrosity and it generates quite a lot of power, but not everyone wants to build an all biome consuming power station that can be seen from anywhere on the map, also consider not everyone has a pc that can run a huge build.

Here's the output of the blue crater converted to rocket fuel #satisfactory-experimental message , power amps present ofc bit it is still a lot.

[leaden ether]

Woah! That'll do it...

[prisma thicket]

That power station truly is a thing of beauty Taromani, so much power all in one place.

[zenith pecan]

This is the place from one biome over #design-and-architecture message

three towers full of production and generators at 600 metres each and a fourth support tower that is marginally taller.

The support tower is almost entirely unneeded, it contains 7776 power stores, but I figured what the hell, go nuts.

[leaden ether]

Nice 🙂 I've made a 250 meter tower (My electronics factory), and yeah it's really weird how it shrinks the scale of the land the further away you can see it. On foot the map is HUGE. But things like tall towers shrink it's size fast.

[strong fiber]

Its 50 nuclear power plants alot

[zenith pecan]

Near the end of the clip, you can see the power station quite prominently even from the central dunes at the decommissioned coal plant. #screenshots message

It's crazy that the power station can be seen from anywhere on the map 🤣

[dusky relic]

#math-and-meta message

I did it finally 😭

[abstract heron]

Is satisfactory calactor working for anyone

[zenith pecan]

Just checked, loaded my map np.

[abstract heron]

When I load calaucatoe it does not work

Not at my pc atm

[outer sparrow]

do I trust the values I get from "Clock speed" or "Target production rate"?

[lean quail]

ye

[prisma thicket]

The two things correlate, but usually clockspeed is slightly more precise, can go up to 4 decimal places when needed

[outer sparrow]

with specific values I get the same output with diffrent inputs. is the one thats been set with clock speed usually the correct one?

[abstract heron]

I think soon I’ll make big belt and pipe and other good 1.1 bp to have

[prisma thicket]

I'm not sure which one may be more "accurate" but since the clock speed lets you be more granular, I'd go with that number whenever you can.

[vestal mica]

you can use a formula and have it be effectively exact

on either one

33.3333333% ? use (33 + 1/3) for clock speed

[white dawn]

The only number that actually matters is the clock speed, btw, which is limited to four decimals

No matter how that value is set (whether plugging in the clock value, or plugging in one of the other values and having it compute for you), it's the four-decimal clock that is the master value

[vestal mica]

but is the display just rounding the actual value?

[white dawn]

So choose either 33.3333 or 33.3334 depending on whether you want to to be technically too slow or technically too fast

(not that it'll ever really matter for like 99.9% of players)

[vestal mica]

i can't imagine it's not stored as a double or some sort of floating point value?

[white dawn]

No, it's literally just four-decimal precision

You can plug in math like (33 + 1/3) just to get it as close as it can, but it's a four-decimal precision value for clock, and all other numbers use that as the base

[vestal mica]

why? that takes more space than something more accurate

is that confirmed by the devs that they just truncate and round everythign to 4 decimal places if use use a formula?

like when it's actually doing the work, not what it displays to you in the ui

[white dawn]

I believe so, yes, though I wasn't involved in that conversation. :)

[vestal mica]

so if I belive not then. and i also wasn't involved in the conversation, who is right?

[white dawn]

I admit I am just a rando, so indeed, who to trust? :D Though I personally trust the knowledgeable folks who have spent years talking with the devs about this kind of thing

[vestal mica]

who is that?

[white dawn]

You can largely avoid repeating decimals in general by following the 45/81 rule stuff, though I don't know how thoroughly that's been checked out versus the 1.0 recipe changes: #math-and-meta message

[fresh wharf]

Hey in the ending do I get a promotion or do I get paid?

[white dawn]

The person who wrote the post I linked to, for one (though they're not in the server anymore)

You'll find many other blue-name folks in here who should be able to confirm as well, though I'll leave it to chance as to whether they'll see this and respond. :D

[white dawn]

||omg spoilers: a promotion||

[latent prawn]

I can almost certainly say that sevrahn was wrong about that all

[white dawn]

I've found it to be quite useful when I choose to use it. (Mostly I don't actually care if I've got an inexact repeating decimal, so I don't use it often)

[latent prawn]

cycle times have to be an integral number of milli or microseconds. the game just uses % for display

[tall lantern]

why do they?

[latent prawn]

because the game internally is pretty much a loop `do_factory_tick() { if machine should put something on belt, put it on belt; move belts; }

that tick happens every x number of micro/milliseconds

[tall lantern]

games have long since become independent of frame- and tick-rates

[latent prawn]

yeah more than likely the game actually does it based on deadlines with some sort of sleep time granularity

[tall lantern]

or just does "well it's been x time since the last tick, so I need to do that much stuff", standard deltaTime stuff

[latent prawn]

yeah, most likely

[fresh wharf]

amazing

[tall lantern]

in which case you wouldn't need to be bound to any particular resolution

[latent prawn]

more my beef with what was posted was the '4 digit precision' stuff

[azure swan]

In any case computers are basically never going to say how many times per minute it's going to do something. It's going to say how frequently it needs to do it.

[tall lantern]

clock rates probably are tracked at 4dp

since that's what they show and there's no reason to assume otherwise

[latent prawn]

if something produces at 3 items/min, setting it to 33.3333% (or more precisely, entering 100/3), will give you 1/min

[azure swan]

What's your beef with it?

[tall lantern]

not quite

[latent prawn]

the reason why is that the cycle time changes from 60 to 180 seconds

[azure swan]

What makes you think that's true? It's very likely not. The issue being you're telling it a rate, but it isn't using rate directly. It's going to use the number you type in (likely at 4dp) and convert that into a period.

[tall lantern]

think that's the crux of it, that's the rounded number

[azure swan]

It's rounding big time.

[vestal mica]

yeah, for the display. it can't show infinite decimals there

[latent prawn]

if you don't enter things exactly, sure

[azure swan]

well 33.3333% is -NOT- exact.

[vestal mica]

but why do you think it's storing it that way? it would jus tmake the math actually slower than floating point calcs

but it's nto storing that i woudl bet

[azure swan]

even if you put in 100/3 the computer will have to round it or truncate it to store it.

[vestal mica]

yeah, but it's way more precise

[tall lantern]

with your 60s default cycle clocked to 33.3333%, you'd get a cycle time of 60 / 0.333333 = 180.000180000180000180000...`s

[latent prawn]

it doesn't store it that way, it stores it as a number of (fractions of) seconds until the machine produces something again

[tall lantern]

so marginally off, but close enough that the display's gonna round it

[azure swan]

Ultimately none of it matters because the 4th decimal on these clock rates puts the error so so far into the dirt it's absurd.

[leaden ether]

Are you sure that is true? Because rounding does NOT happen when you sloop/boost. It is explained that if something is 1/m then you boost by 50 % you then get an alternating 1/m 2/m 1/m 2/m to give an average of the target.

[azure swan]

The 45/81 stuff is simply for a mathematical perfectionist.

[leaden ether]

Would it not work that way for for dividing down as well?

[latent prawn]

also, in my example, if you just enter 'make 1/min', it'll figure it out with more precision than you can enter in the % field

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, I generally just don't care if I've got a repeating decimal in there; I figure I'm never gonna notice it

[tall lantern]

that's just because slooping can't output 1.5 items (not items/min)

[vestal mica]

that's actually not true for things that spit out a pretty high volume of items

and why there's no way it arbitrarily cuts off all precision at 4 decimal places if you put in a fraction

[latent prawn]

lotta stuff would break if a water extractor didn't make 250/min when you enter that value

[azure swan]

That's possible, but how would you "know" that?

[latent prawn]

you watch your power for hiccups

[tall lantern]

pretty sure it just does the calc and stores the 4dp clock value

[azure swan]

You're watching your power and noticing if a hiccup happens once every thousand hours?

The difference between 33.3333% and 1/3 is -incredibly- small.

[leaden ether]

On the other hand accumulating errors and double pumping an item is SO simple, there's almost no reason not to do it. If after al lthis time no one has ever actually measured if the output is rounded or not I'd be surprised. ANd it shouldn't be too hard to test.

[vestal mica]

if i put a mark 3 miner on a pure node and set it to ".3333" vs a true "1/3" the output would be different in just about 3 hours

no way it's not using floating numbers

[acoustic sierra]

just got access to aluminum, should my first small factory just create sheets and casing to send back to my storage facility/

[leaden ether]

Just ran into a scene where three alpha stingers just murdered 6 hogs.

[acoustic sierra]

?

[vestal mica]

what is a storage facility??

[acoustic sierra]

umm

where you store stuff?

[vestal mica]

in the cloud

[acoustic sierra]

what?

[prisma thicket]

You could even simplify it further and just send the aluminum ingots to storage to produce what you need when and where you need it.

[vestal mica]

just being a troll. with a dimensional depots, i don't have any sort of central storage anymore

[acoustic sierra]

oh. i have some of those on top my storage containers

[leaden ether]

Yeah with aluminum I started out storing/DDing sheets and frames but leave room for adding Fused Mod Frames, Heatsinks and cooling systems in the future. I started with 120 ingots/m at first but had to boost it to 240 eventually.

(Well didn't; HAVE too but...)

[hard ivy]

I never built central storage even before 1.0. I just hypertubed to my factories to pick up stuff

[placid stirrup]

Central storage was very convenient, it saved a lot of time compared to the alternative

[upper coral]

what do i do if my world went into a nuclear meltdown

i havent played in a bit and my reactors are missing a few ressources

[sullen gull]

Anyone by chance know how to rectify this: #screenshots message ?

[white dawn]

Satisfactory doesn't have a "metldown" mechanic. The worst that can happen is the same as with other generators: if they starve on input resources, you could trip the power grid

[upper coral]

i found a coal source that was moved but idk how many more of my sources are gone

[white dawn]

Once the grid's been tripped, the usual thing to do is isolate the generators + their support machinery, and then use other power sources to get those running again before you reconnect to the rest of the grid

FWIW, if your savegame was from before the 1.0 release, it's highly recommended to just start over again

[sullen gull]

The original blueprint was created in a mk1, and has 2m foundations, tried to place it into a mk2 bpm and I get that when I delete the foundations ...

[upper coral]

yea i have

[upper coral]

i have a bit of power

[white dawn]

You can take the time to fix your factory from older saves, of course, but there's also a lot of new content, etc.

[upper coral]

my coal generators are running just the nuclear stuff isnt and idk what ressources im missing

ok fuck they just ran out

[sullen gull]

Only thing I can think of is because I have conveyor floor holes?

[white dawn]

If you've found a "moved" coal node, then your save is from pre-1.0. :D

So it might just be worth starting over. There were quite a few recipe changes when 1.0 hit

[sullen gull]

Yeah, best to just start again I would think?

[upper coral]

yea i guess im restarting

[white dawn]

The way to fix it is straightforward enough, of course: take a look at the recipes you've got, then make sure you're supplying what they all need

But it can be pretty tedious to do so, especially on a big save

[upper coral]

only got like 70 hours its not that big

[white dawn]

Well, being as far as nuclear power qualifies as having a pretty good amount of factory that you'd have to fix. :D

There were fewer changes to recipes in the "early" game, but even various earlier alts got tweaked (like Iron Alloy Ingot got a tweak, I think. That or Copper Alloy)

[sullen gull]

Hmmm, ok, it wasn't the floor holes 🤔

Oops, forgot one ..

Dang... still doing it 😦

[twin shadow]

I am having to research petroleum power again, though it is an early acces file that had it before 1.0 is this a known bug or nah

[sullen gull]

I'd assuming any save pre 1.0 is going to have some issues.

[white dawn]

Yeah, various milestones and things were moved around for the 1.0 release; it's a known situation that you may have to re-unlock things if you're carrying a savefile over from EA

[chrome cloud]

Cool, my entire factory broke because a tractor delivered the wrong thing to the station

i have separate tractors for separate paths btw

[sturdy mural]

guys i found out why didnt i have ANY rotors automated

turns out i had
both rotors and stators
but i didnt hook up a SINGLE belt to a storage and then a depot

[sullen gull]

Lol, I've only done that about 1000 times haha.

[coarse geode]

finished phase 3, i dont even wanna know what abominations i have access to now

aw shit

[lime ermine]

Nuclear power and drones and particle accelerators

[fresh wharf]

I honestly feel like satisfactory would be more popular if it was cheaper, everybody's telling me that they don't want to play it because it's either too expensive or it's too complicated

[white dawn]

CSS regularly participates in sales

And the impression I have is that CSS is quite happy with the current level of popularity. :)

Made it into Steam's top 10 concurrent player list on release week

[fresh wharf]

Yeah, everybody knows what satisfactory is but they end up telling me factorio is better..?

[white dawn]

Both Satisfactory and Factorio are good games, and play very differently. They have very little in common, in the end.

Some folks may prefer one or the other, but that's all down to personal preference

(and beside the point when it comes to cost)

[nimble trail]

After playing Satisfactory (and DSP) - I've found it very difficult, nigh on impossible to return to Factorio

[white dawn]

Anyway, CSS will price the game how they feel is appropriate, in the end. Folks who don't want to pay the full price can wait for sales, which the studio seems happy to participate in

And I expect over the years, the sale discount will eventually grow larger, too.

[fresh wharf]

Yeah, that's usually how it is with big games, kinda like cyberpunk that went down to 10 bucks I think?

Or 5?

[sullen gull]

Cyberpunk had a pretty rocky start though.

[fresh wharf]

Yeah, it kept crashing

[white dawn]

As always, steamdb.info is where to go for that kind of info. They say the lowest CP2077's ever gotten is a 60% discount, which in USD was $24.

[rugged abyss]

if i use an external tool for planning my factory, is it cosidered cheating?

[white dawn]

Though we're veering into #off-topic-general . :)

[sullen gull]

Nah

[white dawn]

The more important question is: do you care even if it is?

It's your game, after all.

[rugged abyss]

i dont

[white dawn]

So, there you go. :)

[rugged abyss]

not really, playing from steam family

[sturdy mural]

satisfactory is much more calm compared factorio, since yk, you are not under constant threat of being bug food

[white dawn]

Well if you're sharing a savefile with other people, then yeah, you'd want to talk with those folks to make sure you're all on the same page about how you want to play the game

[rugged abyss]

im not. the one guy bought it, and im using it

[sturdy mural]

guys how do i record a path for a truck
its a load/unload loop
do i just

• start recording
• do the cargo
• drive to other stop
• do the cargo again
• return
  or is it diffirently?

[white dawn]

Just use the external tools if you want to, k? :)

That's the only point I was trying to make. :)

[sullen gull]

I believe they meant that the game is best played however you'd like. There is not real 'edge' to be gained, and it's just an overall sandbox where you can play however you enjoy.

[white dawn]

No need to do the cargo steps yourself -- vehicles will automatically stop at any station they pass through

Once the route has been laid, there'll be a yellow "pause" node at the station. You can edit that to alter how long the vehicle waits there

The station loads/unloads at 2 stacks per second

[rugged abyss]

thats what i love about this game

[white dawn]

(So a completely full transfer of a Tractor would require 12.5 seconds)

[sullen gull]

It will continue to record until to pass through where you start, or you stop the recording. So you can add however many stops you'd like along the route.

[sturdy mural]

2 stacks/s? how long for the truck then

[white dawn]

In fact, manually doing the cargo steps as you go can act a bit weirdly. It won't hurt the route recording, but it also might not always trigger animations, etc.

So I never bother doing the manual cargo transfer when recording

[sullen gull]

Depends on what belt you have

[white dawn]

Nah, belt speed isn't a factor -- number of stacks is

[sturdy mural]

no like truck - station
not station - belt

[sullen gull]

Ahh, gotcha. my bad.

[white dawn]

I don't remember the number of stacks the truck has. But you're unlikely to have a full load anyway. I'd recommend just watching the route as it runs and take a look at the incoming cargo space on the vehicle before it docks

Count the stacks, divide by 2, that's how long it should wait there

Maybe add an extra second or two just in case it gets delayed on a circuit

[outer saffron]

yall if i have a 320 belt running, and i need one side to be 200 and the other 120, if u put a mk3 belt on one side and mk2 on the other side wouldnt it make the mk2 belt only deliver 50?

[sturdy mural]

so from what you guys told me its

• start recording
• drive the road (just drive past stations)
• return to the origin point
• tweak stops later

[white dawn]

That's my usual plan, yeah

[prisma thicket]

A splitter will always try to split evenly between each output

[outer saffron]

so that means it gon work or nah ?

[white dawn]

Keep in mind the "will always stop at any station it passes through" thing; that can have implications on your station layouts if you have a lot of routes going into the same area

[sturdy mural]

also can you like return backwards? or can i go back backwards on the same spot

[white dawn]

The vehicle autopilot doesn't deal with reversing well; best to always go forward

[prisma thicket]

so it would send 120 on the mk.2 belt and the rest on the other belt, since the mk.2 can't move fast enough to unload more

[outer saffron]

aight man ty

[sturdy mural]

no like
lets say i'm recording, and going one way ➡️
but then i go through a loop and go back through the start in the other direction ⬅️

[white dawn]

I'd recommend going into the "start" in the same direction you started

[prisma thicket]

You can even have a short segment of mk.2 belts to throttle the output, and then switch to a higher tier belt to move the items faster after.

[sturdy mural]

im planning on that, i'm asking will it count if i were to go the other way, or can i just pass it like that

[sullen gull]

OK, so for any who may be interested, I had to lay down foundations in the blueprint designer first, then nudge the bp down (running 1.1) and the extensions didn't pop. That's with the bp still having the floor holes. Unless there is another way to avoid that, that's what worked for me 🤷‍♂️

[sturdy mural]

wait i drove through the station but nothing appeared
do i have to drive through or stop at it too (as if i were to unload)

[prisma thicket]

Might have been easier just to rebuild the blueprint without the foundations.

[sullen gull]

make sure you click "Show Route"

[sturdy mural]

i do have the arrows

[sullen gull]

Couldn't as I wanted the floor holes part of the BP for starters. What's odd though is the BP had the foundations included, so when placing, it should have already had a sturdy base.

[sullen gull]

For me, the pauses at the stations don't usually show up until after the route has been recorded. But, I could have also just not been paying attention 🙂

[sturdy mural]

okay yeah i think it does do that

[young crest]

Just redesigned my main base because i feel my eye bleeding whenever i look at it

Also built a highway network and i found out just now that you can place multiple foundations at once

[sullen gull]

Zoop it out! 😏

[prisma thicket]

You can also make blueprints of foundations to lay big grids of them at once. Usually the first BP I make is a 4x4 grid of 2m foundations

[sturdy mural]

yeah guys don't reverse on autopilot

[sullen gull]

Yeah, that's what I do as well.

So that I can just place it into the floor. Also allows me to fake 'clean' wiring 😏

[sturdy mural]

my truck managed to

• get stuck
• fall into water
• get unstuck into my factory
• try to get unstuck again and just slide as a hologram into the ground

all in one spot
in 20 seconds

[prisma thicket]

Lol wow

[sullen gull]

Lol, oh yeah, it's fun. Also fun when you're recording a route, hit a pebble and it send you into a flip... it records the flip lol. Though it doesn't replay it sadly 😏

[jaunty jewel]

they like to become holograms

[young crest]

I have a tractor route where one consistently does a backflip

[sturdy mural]

you're lucky then mine just loves to
get stu-

aand my game crashed
when quitting to main menu???

funny

[sullen gull]

Boo

[sturdy mural]

i mean it's okay cuz i was exiting anyway

[fervent tartan]

how do you nudge? been away for a few months.. my nudge is bound to up down left right but nothing happens when i hit the arrows

[sullen gull]

Hit H first

Or whatever "lock Hologram" is tied to if you've remapped.

[fervent tartan]

roger

[prisma thicket]

You can also hit ctrl while nudging things to nudge in smaller increments

[sullen gull]

And, if you're in experimental, you can have Z nudging and infinite nudging as well 🙂

[fervent tartan]

sickening

[young crest]

At what spot do you guys build your main base

[prisma thicket]

Currently my primary factory (where my hub and space elevator are) is in the North West of the Rocky desert.

[white dawn]

Yeah, as Tinker mentioned, they'll show up once the route is complete

[hard ivy]

Main base? What's that?

[sullen gull]

Just below the crater lakes in front of the waterfalls in the SE rocky desert in this save.

[sullen gull]

Lol, I had to think about it for a sec. And then I was like "Ohhh, where the HUB is I guess lol."

[young crest]

Im at phase 3 and im not predicting ill move anytime soon im comfortable in the grass fields

[sullen gull]

Have you started oil yet? 😏

[white dawn]

Can always leave the HUB deconstructed and just spawn it in whenever you need to unlock a milestone, too. :P

Even easier to do now that it only requires iron ore

[young crest]

Not yet. Currently on coal and geysirs

Im unlocking logistics mk4 rn and after that im doing oil

[sullen gull]

Ohhhh, wtf that's a brilliant idea!

[sullen gull]

If you're in the grass lands, and want to stay 'close', the Blue crater north of you has oil.

[white dawn]

(Ditto Space Elevator, of course, though for that it's handy to belt up material delivery, presuming you're playing that way)

[young crest]

Well i dont have a problem building more highways

Theyre honestly even fun to design

[white dawn]

With the addition of Dimensional Depots you can really quite easily forgo all notions of a "main" anything.

[young crest]

I think ill just connect oil with giant power towers or transport the oil to my base and make it there

[white dawn]

(You could do without a central storage even pre-1.0, of course, though IMO it was undeniably kind of handy back then)

[sullen gull]

I tried doing that once, but I kept clogging and having to rebuild the belts as I would always overshoot how many items were required lol. Now I just hand deliver every thing 🤷‍♂️

[white dawn]

(And of course it does take a significant amount of effort to get your Depots upgraded + built out properly, so it's not like that happens immediately)

[white dawn]

Yeah, I really wish the elevator had a built-in sink or overflow or something

Always feels silly to have to go back and re-belt things

[hard ivy]

Just use different input hatches for each item?

[sullen gull]

And it's not like you could just put a smart splitter on the input because of the 'buffer' each connection has 😒

[white dawn]

Could do, but that's a lotta inputs now that 1.0's out

Not that it'd be impossible, of course

[young crest]

? Sorry english isnt my main language

[white dawn]

IMO an "overflow" output is the most elegant solution to it. An integrated sink would be problematic for folks who only construct the exact amount of needed material, so you'd want that to be toggleable, which sounds like it could be confusing from a UI perspective

[sullen gull]

A merger/splitter holds items, even if you remove all belts/lifts.

[young crest]

Thats cool but how would that be practical

[sullen gull]

And, if I recall, the number is 4.

[sturdy mural]

real pioneers move the hub to wherever you're doing the most stuff at currently

[white dawn]

IMO the most useful thing which really defines a "home" base of some sort, is exploration-spoils processing.

[sturdy mural]

wait could you technically just hardlock yourself by deleting the HUB parts way back?

[white dawn]

Handy to have a bin where you can dump stuff to get sorted + processed, etc.

[sullen gull]

I was saying it wouldn't be. Especially for the space elevator since it can only take as many items needed to complete the phases. so, if you tried to belt it to the space elevator with a smart splitter at the input with one set to overflow, the input on the space elevator would still get 'clogged'

if any of that makes sense lol.

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I am apparently failing at being a 'real pioneer' 🤣 .

[white dawn]

I think HUB parts couldn't be deleted, but it wasn't uncommon to see people who had lost them somewhere on the map

(and of course there's the death-crate-spawning-at-0,0,0-problem)

[sullen gull]

I just usually leave the hub and space elevator up near where-ever I started and hypertube cannon back when I need to use them lol.

[white dawn]

IMO "Hub Parts" makes more logical sense but from a gameplay perspective, iron ore is much better for that reason

[young crest]

I just use the parts that i dont need for the phases anymore in my ticket sink and i get a couple tickets like every hour

[sullen gull]

Lol, I have a "sink-it" BP that I throw up where ever I need to empty out my inventory lol

[young crest]

BP?

[sullen gull]

Sorry, blueprint

[sturdy mural]

where is 0,0,0 btw

[young crest]

I just have a storage container next to a sink and put all my stuff in there i dont need

Full inventory of wires

[white dawn]

Heh, I actually don't know precisely, since the map isn't actually centered on there. Under the ground, though

[sturdy mural]

ngl i still have my space elevator where i put it forst at
except i rebuilt it once to put it on a foundation, not on ground like some animal

[white dawn]

Some mousing around in SCIM should find it for you

[sturdy mural]

under the terrain you say?

[young crest]

What do you guys use for farming tickets

[sullen gull]

Hah, I actually had that open in a tab!.. trying to find it

[sullen gull]

AI limiters are a good one imo.

[zenith pecan]

Sounds like a good place for me to create a capture hall and a backrooms simulation made from a sickly yellow ficsit walled backrooms recreation.

[white dawn]

Literally everything, For every item you produce, have a smart splitter in front of its storage. "Any" goes to the storage, "Overflow" goes to a sink

[sturdy mural]

whatever doesn't get crammed into a storage container for Depo

[white dawn]

Ah, indeed! I don't think I've seen anyone build a room specifically for that

[sturdy mural]

and also Fabric since i'm making fuel from oil which gives the plastic thingy, which you can turn to fabric with just a bit of water

[zenith pecan]

I already build under the map, so it is one more location in the network 🤣

[sturdy mural]

o, another under-the-ground enjoyer? how do YOU get under the map?

[young crest]

I just use refined sam or what its called

[zenith pecan]

Here's my primer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc9T_ZlDv68

[sullen gull]

Hypertubes 🙂

[sturdy mural]

that's
too complicated
you can do it as soon as you get tubes

but it is cool for when you're more late in the game

[zenith pecan]

Reliable and you don't zonk into the floor with the bare tube.

[white dawn]

If you ever decide you want to go for the full set of trophies from the shop, you'll probably want to start sinking basically everything

(If you don't care about the trophies than it sort of doesn't matter; it's not too hard to buy out the shop of everything else)

[zenith pecan]

And my tunnels tend to innervate the entire map, they're usually build like this one #design-and-architecture message

[young crest]

What if i demolish my entire factory and just live the coupon lifestyle

[sturdy mural]

how did you get the lights like this

[white dawn]

The main thing is that coupons get more and more expensive, so stuff you sink right now which net you a lot of coupons will have diminishing returns over time

[sturdy mural]

also do you want to see my marvel of hypertubing?

[white dawn]

Once you're in the habit of sinking all overflow, that helps counteract the effect

[zenith pecan]

Emissive signs, one sec, I'll load up and display something more recent 😄

[coarse geode]

build factories to produce coupons

[sullen gull]

@sturdy mural #screenshots message

[young crest]

Yeah i noticed that. DNA is really good and easy to make tho

[white dawn]

(And again, that really only matters if you want all the trophies. If you don't care about 'em then it's a pretty academic question)

Yeah, DNA is A+ as well. Though even that has diminishing returns

[young crest]

Especially if you use sommersloops for DNA (and power shards too)

Litteraly so much bettee

[sturdy mural]

L Blue is the center?? woah

[sullen gull]

Apparently lol.

I had asked myself that same question the other night, so looked it up 😏

[zenith pecan]

Oops, clip too large haha.

Lighting is more of a pain since 1.0, but I still managed #screenshots message

Since I'm at the incomplete shaft, I might as well complete it 😄

I just looked at the map that was posted, the world border is inaccurate, all of paradise island can be reached without damage since 1.0

[sullen gull]

From the looks of it, the blue line still seems to be a pretty close representation of the map itself, including that area. Still though, the post I found that in was from a while back

[sturdy mural]

the white color scheme makes me feel too poor for the vid lol

[zenith pecan]

I don't understand, why?

[sturdy mural]

feels premium or smth

not the basic Ficsit orange™️

[zenith pecan]

Not much world border difference, they moved the southwest corner out some, and closed it slightly in the north west.

[zenith pecan]

I never liked ficsit orange for widespread building.

[sturdy mural]

orange is my fav color so now i can't choose my fav one cuz its already there and i feel basic
thats pain

[sullen gull]

Yeah, still, I think we were more wondering about the center of the map vs the world border lol

[zenith pecan]

True, I'll nail the location and build a hall there to capture random shit.

[sullen gull]

But you can at least tailor it to your mostest favortist orange 🙂

[sturdy mural]

the ficsit one looks the best tho

[zenith pecan]

the power station shown at the end of my last tunnel clip uses the unpainted look on ficsit walls, it does look rather metal.

[sturdy mural]

also i apologize but i must depart
time for me to sleep

[sullen gull]

Sleep well.

[sturdy mural]

thank you
also i remembered so imma quickly mention
you guys know stackable pipes/belts

but what about a Stack Extension bought in the shop
its a third variant without the pipe or the belt

allowing you to make a taller belt without like 3 empty lanes

[sullen gull]

Post it in the QA site. I like that one too

[sturdy mural]

could ya like tell me to do so (or how to) in DMS? it'll help me rememebr most likely

[sullen gull]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com

[sturdy mural]

thank you

[plucky plover]

I need to stop worrying about trying to produce an insane amount of stuff so I can actually progress

The complex parts do not need to be a full belts worth... There's a lot I need to craft ....

[young crest]

Does a power storage even out the power swings from a geysir power plant

[leaden turret]

that was part of their design intent, yeah

[young crest]

Okay thank you. I didnt know if power storages took some time to fill up

[white dawn]

As an addendum, though, IMO if you're so tight on power that you need the storages to even out the power swings, you'd be best off building more power overall

[leaden turret]

they do

[white dawn]

Though if you're running geothermal on its own segregated grid, that might be handy

[young crest]

I just dont like eye cancer whenever i open up my power poles

[white dawn]

The storages do not even out the graph itself, btw

[young crest]

Fuck

[white dawn]

So if it's the graph you're worried about, storage won't help

[sullen gull]

I mean, ideally it would help 'clean-up' Th graph that's already there right?

[young crest]

Yeah thats what i thougt

I thougt the high points of geo poweplants would charge the storage high enough so that the line would keep a straight line, even if it still goes downward.

[sullen gull]

As SignpostMarv had said, they should. I've never messed with personally.

[young crest]

Ill try it out and see

[white dawn]

Nah, power storage does not affect the main graph in any way

Power storage acts quite differently to all the other power options; there'd be no decent way to try and integrate them into the main graph

Instead what you have is a separate meter on the side which tells you how many MWh you have available in your storage

Which will drain at a rate proportional to your power gap

[mortal ginkgo]

Hello guys, a question if I may. Mk1 Belt is not enough for 2 Smelters that are making iron ingots? I have a merger and mk1 belt not working fully...

[young crest]

Mk2

[mortal ginkgo]

Wait, what am I missing mate? Isn't mk1 belt 60 per minute?

[novel bramble]

The only way to get a straight line for the power production is to ditch geothermal entirely and rely on stable power sources.

[young crest]

If you think its not fast enoigh just place mk2

[young crest]

But i love my 600 MW

[mortal ginkgo]

Thats not exactly an answer though..

2 Smelters making 60 ignots per minute shouldn't sufficate a Mk1 belt, no?

[white dawn]

Power storage does "even out" geothermal gens in that if you have sufficient Storage powered up, you can operate the grid at a level where the power would otherwise dip below, and the storage will kick in to supply what's needed

[frozen cloud]

get used to it, its just how lategame satisfactory works with variable production and variable consumption

[novel bramble]

Each smelter takes 30 if it's not overclocked so a mk1 belt is exactly enough for 2.

[white dawn]

Technically if you power on your geothermal gens at just the right intervals, you could get pairs of them to exactly cancel each other out on your power graph. :)

[young crest]

Miners can only place as much on the conveyor belt as there is space on the conveyor if thats what youre asking

[novel bramble]

Build more coal/fuel generator or go nuclear...

You can't have your cake and eat it too...

[white dawn]

Or if you end up with all geothermal on the map, they're likely to average out to a pretty straight line anyway

[sullen gull]

Huh, I thought they were random fluctuations

[white dawn]

Nah, predictable linear up/down, makes little pyramids on the graph. They all have the same cycle length

[young crest]

Can i dig down to groundwater to dispose of nuclear waste? I want to poison the drinking water

[novel bramble]

Yeah but random fluctuations across a lot of sources will kinda average out but you are never going to have a perfectly straight line

[novel bramble]

Ficsit does not waste™
Not even nuclear waste.

[white dawn]

Fun fact: as soon as you add trains to your network you'll also technically have a fluctuating graph. :)

(just tends to be so minor you're unlikely to notice unless looking very closely)

Since trains give power back to the grid while braking

[novel bramble]

Yeah, the only way to have a flat graph is to keep all truck/train lines on a completely separate network but it's quite a bit of work

[white dawn]

Well for truck stations at least it's only consumption that varies

[frozen cloud]

and geothermal
and particle accelerator
and converter
and quantum encoder
just dont...

[novel bramble]

And still the graph will break once you start with particle accelerators

[white dawn]

Trains will cause the production line to jiggle a bit too, which is more the concern here, I think

[novel bramble]

You sure?

[white dawn]

Yes. It's minor but present. They give energy back to the grid while braking

[young crest]

Will the workers at the asylum laugh at me when i tell them about my power grid

[novel bramble]

Oh yeah you are right, never noticed.

[white dawn]

It's so subtle as to be pretty pointless, honestly. Though it's fun to know it's there. :D

I was wondering for awhile how much power you could generate on a multiplayer server by having three people at the top of a hill constructing engines on a set of rails and sending them down, with the last person at the bottom deconstructing them

But I think it's not nearly enough to even be worth it for a joke

[azure swan]

@sullen gull if you believe the build able area and the buildable volume in this, #screenshots message
Doesn't that make the buildable height just a bit over 2m?

[sullen gull]

Erm, but it goes from -244 to +1997 .... is says there 2241m ... Or maybe I am confused at the question?

[grave mango]

Where can I get help fixing a bug in my game??

[white dawn]

#1038092680493801533 for player to player support

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @white dawn

[sullen gull]

You can check the QA site to see if it has been noted, or you can post it your self. Or you can ask in #1038092680493801533

[white dawn]

^ or that site to submit reports to the devs

[azure swan]

If a box is 2m x 5m x 3m then you could say its area (x/y cross section) is 10m^2 (2m x 5m) and its volume would be 30m^2 (2m x 5m x 3m). You could also derive the height of the box given the area and volume with h = v/a or 30/10 in this case which gives you that original height of 3m.

If the map says the area and volume are:
Buildable area ~47e6m^2
Buildable volume ~105e6m^3

Aren't we saying we have a box that's 47m^2 in its cross section and 105m^3 in volume then its height is 105/47 which is ~2.23m.

[sullen gull]

🤯

Here is where I would do some sort of major shrug gif lol.

I didn't make it for one lol.

[azure swan]

Did you make the picture or did you find it somewhere? Whoever made it certainly either goofed up or just made up the numbers completely and fucked up even making it reasonable

[sullen gull]

Are reddit posts allowed?

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/xe8nrv/how_do_the_ingame_map_coordinates_work/

Guess so.

@azure swan, that's what the googles gave me. The first comment is what I went from.

As far as the math involved, beats me.

[azure swan]

Looks like they just goofed on the order of magnitude by 1,000.
47,112,074 * 2,241 = 105,578,157,834

[sullen gull]

And, as @zenith pecan I believe pointed out, that is obviously an old workup given the world grid is wrong.

[azure swan]

So exact same numbers but just missing a lil ole 3 digits.

[sullen gull]

Hate when that happens.

[azure swan]

Like if you worked for someone and they accidentally paid you $1 for a week of work instead of $1,000

[sullen gull]

Lol, feels like where I work now 🤣

[grizzled lotus]

I just tried setting up different factories for different stuff and it's so much simpler

[tight swift]

is there a way to make a wall not snap to the grid on the blueprint pad?

[sullen gull]

Not really. You can lock it (Default is H) and then nudge.

[tight swift]

alright

[marble tinsel]

Left my account on for a few hours and come back from college to a bunch of full storage containers 🙂
I think I should be able to complete phase 2 tonight

[tight swift]

there's no way to do a sort of lock and rotate though is there? i want an angle closer to 45 than the 90 that it allows

[sullen gull]

Can't rotate while locked with vanilla. You can with the Infinite Nudge mod. Another way is to try and 'cheat' it using foundations or beams if you can.

[tight swift]

rip

[sullen gull]

But, without vertical nudging, it could be difficult. Though, someone may know another way. You can try to ask in #design-and-architecture.

[thin fiber]

in 1.0 do the hard drive recipes matter from where I get them? like do the harder to get hard drives have better recipes or am i tweaking?

[boreal musk]

no

[thin fiber]

ok i didnt think so but i wanted to make sure

because i have only been getting awful recipes 😭

[trim vine]

Is there any way to set it to build from my inventory BEFORE pulling from the Dimensional storage

[leaden ether]

Yes. (Not on ATM so can;t give exact instructions)

I think it's onthe DD portion of the UI when you open your inventory

[trim vine]

Thank you so much

[marble tinsel]

oh im dumb I have to start crafting the stuff for the elevator to finish phase 2 🤦‍♂️

[boreal musk]

set the depot to take from your inventory first

[sullen gull]

On your inventory screen, top left hand side.

[stiff wolf]

in multiplayer if i save and leave my world before my buddy leaves will it cause any problems?

[sullen gull]

If you are hosting the game, yes, it will kick them off. If it's a dedicated server, then no.

[stiff wolf]

yes im hosting but will it make him loose any items or important stuff?

[sullen gull]

No, it will just log them off into the game.

[stiff wolf]

ok

[dense violet]

Recipes all have situations where they are useful

If you don’t creatively think of them of find yourself in those situations it’s not the recipes fault

[sullen gull]

You genuinely love to tell people how to play their game and how they are always "doing it wrong" (Though you probably still have me blocked, which is just as well)

[marble tinsel]

just when I think I finished with one part I gotta start a whole new automation process 😂

[azure swan]

Notably you can place objects on pillars ungridded. Things just kinda slide around on pillars. Put one of those down and slide something else onto it

[tight swift]

ah good advice

i ended up just finessing them around using road barriers and then using beams to hide the imperfections

turned out alright i think

[thin fiber]

well yeah im just saying its not the one i want, some of em could be helpful when im low on resources

Whjats up with stingers literally hating everybody? i just saw a big stinger solo 2 hogs and a big spitter

killed all of em too lol

[frail sleet]

You might've had them connected to a miner that is only outputting 30/min

[sullen gull]

I wouldn't worry about them. They're just crotchety.

[elder apex]

stingers hate anything with less legs than them

[sullen gull]

Stingers are the spawns of the devil! 😏

[mortal ginkgo]

Hello Aeryn. It seems empty-distance on belt was a factor. Once the belt was saturated it fixed itself.

Manifold systems can really be troublesome. (And nope, I got pure Iron Node ^-^)

[thin fiber]

i went to the swamp and got 3 big ones following me around while i was trying to get some oil

i did not indeed get the oil

[sullen gull]

Lol, also because there is no oil in the swamp 😏

Wel, a resource node 'near' anyhow lol.

[thin fiber]

oh wait i think i was hard drive hunting

[sullen gull]

Ahh yeah, good few of them there.

But yeah, swamp = bad times if not enough ammo 😏

[thin fiber]

whats your preferred weapon of choice? im only tiers 5-6 rn and the rifle is doing pretty good for me

[sullen gull]

I personally like the rifle.

[thin fiber]

nobelisks are pretty finicky with spitters

blown myself up more times then i would like to admit

[sullen gull]

But it's fun to stick a bunch of them to them! lol

[thin fiber]

sticking a bunch of em to anything is pretty fun

[frail sleet]

my afk friend disagrees

[dense violet]

All a manifold needs is enough parts per min for the system abd the belt throughput.

It’s objectively the least effort to link up production

[mortal ginkgo]

Yeah, I was just surprised is all.

[frail sleet]

With enough buildings, yes. For input to 2 buildings it actually takes extra parts and clicks to manifold as well and only hurts you

[marble tinsel]

😮 Found a Pure Iron Cluster next to a Pure Copper and Pure Limestone

[frail sleet]

northwest northern forest? 😄

[marble tinsel]

Unfortunately no coal next to it

Uh no its like in a beach

its to the left of the starting area and I was just walking around the beach exploring

[boreal musk]

rocky desert?

[sullen gull]

Don't forget, there are four starting areas 🙂

[boreal musk]

wait no theres almost no pure copper in rocky

[frail sleet]

Gotcha

[marble tinsel]

oh shit

the grassy plains starting area

then like North Western ish

[frail sleet]

There is || a bunch of coal just north of the lower lake to the east ||

[marble tinsel]

the double lake?

I have coal gen farm setup there

[frail sleet]

ye

[marble tinsel]

yeah there is a pure coal node like all the way south and thats what im using as my steel factory

cause there is 2 iron nodes next to it so I can make a bunch of stuff there and transport it back to my base

There are probably better spots to find and explore but this is working out good so far 🙂

[frail sleet]

Ye there are loads more, that's a good spot though

[mortal ginkgo]

Also I demand Assemblers to work SLOWER please. They are too OP.

2 items per min? GOSH DARN BROTHERMAN who are you trying to impress here?

SLOW DOWN BODY GOD.

[marble tinsel]

yeah I just made this giant platform and making like factories with long belts cause trying to make it vertical was too much work 😂

[sullen gull]

You mean you're not running the 15/min Reinforced iron plates recipe?! 😏

[elder apex]

it isn't the assembler that is slow, it is the recipe. Also, you are allowed and even encouraged to build more than one of them.

[marble tinsel]

I could make my assembler faster making smart plates but that would mean tearing it down and having to plan it out again

[mortal ginkgo]

Brotherman thinks I got all recipes in the world whereas I am pondering what to do with iron ingots

[marble tinsel]

actually I might do the alternate way cause that cuts out the whole part making rods and screws for the assembler 🤔

[sullen gull]

Screws can be murder. Except when they're not ... like in the desert with tons of iron and the cast screw recipe 😏

[marble tinsel]

wrote it out and I think I cut down a lot on crafting time and machines if I went the alternate way to craft smart plates

[sullen gull]

You can also use the tools at https://www.satisfactorytools.com/ and https://satisfactory-calculator.com if you so choose. There is also a planner called Satisfactory Modeler for free on Steam. All very useful in production and efficiency planning.

[marble tinsel]

o cool

[grizzled lotus]

I scanned a hard drive and got Fine Concrete (silica and limestone into concrete) and Charcoal (one wood into 10 coal)

is the charcoal recipe good or should I rescan?

[sullen gull]

Depends on your use case I guess. Or you could re-scan to get something else if you don't need/like either. Generally utilizing the Charcoal alt can be a niche use case for most I'd say. But, there are cases. All depends on how you want to play and what will work best for you.

[marble tinsel]

checked it out that will be very helpful

gotta tinker around with it and see how to use it right I feel like im being dumb 😂

[sullen gull]

The two first linked will allow you to enter an end item and it will build the production lines, in the most efficient manner, based on what you have avaliable to you, and I believe both allow for uploading of your save to cut down some of the leg work on the settings. The last one is purely manual. Though it's good for those who want to setup things their own way.

[marble tinsel]

yeah I think I messed up somewhere cause it has Iron ore 300+ a min to make 2 smart plates a min 🤔

[sullen gull]

Is it (not sure which your using) trying to use something like cast screws and Iron wire alts?

[marble tinsel]

idk what I did but I got it to 100 iron ore a min and outputs 5 smart plates a minute

[grizzled lotus]

can I rescan a hard drive than reload my save to get back what I missed?

also, if I rescan again do I get different recipes or are they fixed?

[sullen gull]

Yeah, technically.

[sullen gull]

🤷‍♂️

[grizzled lotus]

worth trying next time. I want those iron ingot - screws recipe

also after rescanning I got +6 inventory slots and picked that

[sullen gull]

Just to be clear, you're asking if you rescan, don't like what the rescan was, can you reload the save to pick something from the list?

Also, be aware that you don't have to pick one right away. If you get one that is two recipes you don't want, the next ones you scan can't show those because they are already 'taken'

[grizzled lotus]

yes and yes

[sullen gull]

Then yeah. You just can't re-scan, pick one, reload the save and get to keep it lol.

[grizzled lotus]

oh, does it autosave?

[marble tinsel]

there is autosave but you can go to a previous save if you don't want to take that reward

[grizzled lotus]

wait, that's not what I'm asking

[prisma thicket]

Man I wish we had more incremental belt speeds, or the ability to slow down belts somehow

[grizzled lotus]

if I get recipe A and B, I rescan and get recipes C and D, but I don't like C and D. so I reload my save to get A or B again

that was my point

[prisma thicket]

You can reload an earlier save. Save scumming isn't against any rules

[boreal musk]

once you scan a hard drive, the first 2 of the recipe will be fixed, no matter how much you save&load, the rng start when you rescanned them

[grizzled lotus]

I see. what about the rescan?

[sullen gull]

But the other question was about the rescan. If it's random...

[boreal musk]

read my message again

[sullen gull]

Assuming rng =random number generator?

[boreal musk]

ye, and u can save before you rescan them

[sullen gull]

Gotcha. Thanks.

[boreal musk]

cuz rescan is not fixed, they are randomized

unlike the first 2 recipe

[grizzled lotus]

I see. cool

regarding trees that have mycelia. once I saw them down, do they respawn?

[boreal musk]

no

flora doesnt respawn except nuts and berries if you didnt chop them

[prisma thicket]

Once you do the research for polyester fabric, there's nothing you need to worry about automating that requires mycelia though, so it's not a big deal.

[forest bridge]

Is there a shortcut for trashing items

[sullen gull]

Out of curiosity, when playing single player, what 'server' is restarting?

[sullen gull]

I don't believe so.

[forest bridge]

damn, that's tough. they should look into that

Like terraria it's alt+click

[sullen gull]

Though I think the goal of this one is a bit different 😏. Can't be efficient if you're just throwing everything away! 🤣

[forest bridge]

Rn it's effecient for me to throw stuff away 😔

I have too much polymer resin

don't know what to do with it and I need to keep my refineries cleared so they can keep making residual which I need to make fuel which I need for power

💔

[sullen gull]

Sink it.

Or send it to some other refineries and make plastic, then sink it 🙂

If you have the alt that is

[forest bridge]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I can use that sink

[prisma thicket]

Best thing to make out of polymer resin if you can is fabric, even if you're sending it all to the awesome sink, it sinks for the most points out of plastic, rubber, polymer resin and fabric.

[forest bridge]

I'm 50 hours into the world and haven't built it yet

I forgor

[forest bridge]

Yeah I'm overflowing with fabric as well lol

Can you make more than 1 awesome sink

[prisma thicket]

Oh the awesome sink is the solution to so many headaches. It lets you dump excess resources, and can help you filter some byproducts like polymer resin. It can't be used for Nuclear waste though, that has to be processed.

You can make as many as you have the parts

[sullen gull]

I personally output all end items to a standard container with a smart splitter and a dimensional depot, set one of the smart splitter outputs to overflow and send it to the sink

[forest bridge]

what's a dp

I haven't touched smart splitters yet

[sullen gull]

Sorry, realized after I sent, fixed.

[prisma thicket]

He's referring to the dimensional depot, a cloud storage type upgrade you can unlock in the MAM with Mercer spheres. Smart splitters are incredibly useful for controlling the flow of items in your factories, I'm still learning of different ways to use them and I have nearly 1000 hours played lol

[sullen gull]

Lol, take a dive into the programmable's yet? 😏

[prisma thicket]

Nah, haven't had a big enough factory to warrant those yet lol

[forest bridge]

do y'all have a bunch of mini factories that make smaller parts

[prisma thicket]

I'm really looking forward to priority mergers though

[forest bridge]

what's aproximately the largest part you make in one place

[cyan garnet]

You can make as many sinks as you want. The points they generate and the coupons they produce are shared across all of them

[cyan garnet]

wdym “largest”

[forest bridge]

like most complex I guess

[prisma thicket]

In my current save I have 3 large-ish facilities making all the basic parts from phases 1 and 2, including space elevator parts.

[forest bridge]

Rn I'm starting to run into train headaches because I got nodes all over the place and the more complex the part the more stuff I need

That's not at the place where the prior part is made

so I gotta ship stuff all over the place with trains

[sullen gull]

Well, currently in this save, working on a 'weapons factory' 😏 #screenshots message

[cyan garnet]

Probably ballistic warp drives. Very last elevator delivery part in phase 5

[forest bridge]

and how the hell you get all the stuff to the factory to make it

do you have long ass conveyor belts from miners out in narnia

or just hella trains

or drones even

[austere valve]

Seems they're droning it in

[cyan garnet]

Trains, drones

There is no right or wrong way to play

I like the independency strategy. Build what you need close to resource nodes and minimize dependencies

!wikisearch independency

[forest bridge]

Yeah I like that as well

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=independency

[sullen gull]

Oil, copper, iron, and sulfur are on the 'gantries' that you see. The rest I would need will be from the five drone ports.

[forest bridge]

Just trying to figure out how big the little factories should be

[prisma thicket]

There's also the fact of alternate recipes, sometimes they allow you to eliminate resources from an items build path.

[cyan garnet]

That being said, there are some things that it makes sense to centralize production on, such as rubber, plastic, and aluminum

[cyan garnet]

My factories tend to be different floors in the same complex

[boreal musk]

you can manage it by having different floors for each manufacturing machine type

like smelter floor, assembler floor, etc

[forest bridge]

I see

My bottlenecks right now are encased beams and steel pipes/beams

[boreal musk]

dont forget to use signs, they are useful so you are not lost in your own sea of machines

it happens a lot especially in bigger factory

[sullen gull]

They're great for lighting and decoration too! 😏

[dusky relic]

My factory is stalling 😫

[prisma thicket]

Steel production is the first sort of bump in difficulty in the game, since the ratios aren't as clean as some earlier items. If you have 2 foundries you can split the output of one so that 1/2 merges with the other output to give you 60 steel ingots for steel beams, and the other 2/3 is 30 which is perfect for one constructor of steel pipes. Obviously if you want encased beams as well, you either need to increase your production accordingly, divide up your quantity of steel beams or find some alternate recipes (by find and scanning hard drives) to help your efficiency.

[forest bridge]

I see

[south siren]

Is there a way to make dismantling factories easier? I find it difficult to loot all the dismantle crate after a mass dismantle. any mod/tricks/tips is much appreciated

[sullen gull]

You could use SCIM if you so choose. https://satisfactory-calculator.com/

[south siren]

Sorry im kind of new. how can I use SCIM for mass dismantling?

[sullen gull]

You can load your save into the Interactive map, use the tools on the left to select the items you wish to delete (or move, etc) and once you select the items, a box will pop up asking what you'd like to do with them.

If you delete, it asks if you would like the items placed in one crate next to you.

Then you can download the save and put it into your save file directory (c:%localappdata%\FactoryGame\Saved\Savegames)

Then load the save in the game.

It does not affect any achievements btw.

[south siren]

Hmm. I see what youre saying but I'd rather do everything in game rather than uploading/downloading the game to SCIM each time. Is there a mod that maybe puts all your dismantled item to a temporary inventory?

Thank you for the explanation btw

[sullen gull]

That I am not aware of. I believe there are some dismantle mods. I have not looked myself.

[south siren]

Sounds good thank you 😄

[golden furnace]

There a way to set generators up to be turned off by a single power switch? I can cut access from them to the rest of the network but all the internal wiring keeps them running. Would really help with troubleshooting

[sullen gull]

There is not. Stand by switch is strictly mandatory. I'm right there with ya though. Others have suggested that you can use the ctrl-c/ctrl-v feature and set them to .1%. Personally I don't find that the same though 🤷‍♂️

[golden furnace]

oof

I cant imagine endgame troubleshooting with 100 different generators

[sullen gull]

If you are making your gens in blueprints, I believe you can set the standby switch to off, and then just have to switch to on when they're placed and you're ready.

[grizzled lotus]

how do I remove a map marker?

[prisma thicket]

Select it on the map and hit remove marker

[grizzled lotus]

thanks. apparently I was standing on it and I couldn't select it

[sullen gull]

Also finicky when putting markers close together as well.

[grizzled lotus]

I just crafted 60 dna capsules. should I chuck them into the awesome sink?

[sullen gull]

Save a few for MAM research if you haven't done that already. Otherwise, you could make inhalers as well.

Er, wait, no, sorry, those take the alien protien. my bad.

[grizzled lotus]

what do inhalers do? I crafted one in a past run but never used them

[prisma thicket]

Full heal

[sullen gull]

Restore health to full

[grizzled lotus]

I figured. are they consumables?

[prisma thicket]

Yes

And they have a use time, so if you're trying to use one when you're dying, say to radiation or poison, give yourself a few bars of health or you'll just die trying to use it (speaking from experience lol)

[sullen gull]

Lol, or don't switch to something else while they're being used until the health bar goes up/

[grizzled lotus]

man, my hard drive scans are just awful this run

[cyan garnet]

DNA capsules are only good for sink points. They accumulate at a different rate than regular points so a good way to boost coupons, especially early

[prisma thicket]

You should save the bad ones in the library, that way you're less likely to get those same recipes on your next scan or rescan

[cyan garnet]

And you can 4x your capsules by slooping the remains->protein and the protein->capsule

[sullen gull]

I have a hoarding problem 🤣 #screenshots message

[dusky relic]

Would #1201555265942724758 be the place to ask for help finding the issue with my factory :exhausted:

[cyan garnet]

#1038092680493801533

Post a thread there, describe your issue in detail, provide screenshots

[prisma thicket]

Lol been doing some exploring have we?

[sullen gull]

Lol, always. Every save I go out and do a massive hard drive, mercer, and sloop hunt lol.

[prisma thicket]

I need to go find more hard drives, I think I almost have all the recipes I can unlock at this point, but I want to have a stockpile ready for when I go phase 3, so I can get the good alts for oil early.

[sullen gull]

BUT also should be aware that anymore I play on 'retaliate'. So it's a bit more tolerable.

Though, currently in 1.1, retaliate seems broken 🤷‍♂️ . So it's like playing on passive anyhow.

[prisma thicket]

Oh same here, I can't be bothered constantly dealing with aggressive animals when I just want to build stuff xD

[sullen gull]

Usually on that first explore, I get enough items to complete a ton of research and tiers as well, so kind of a win/win all around.

I do have to say though, being able to dismantle wrecks in 1.1 is ALMOST better than the Z nudge imo 🤣

So, outside of remains, biomass line, and slugs, what else do you all generally sloop? (Outside of using them for power augmenters of course. )

[prisma thicket]

Ummm... I only use them for shards and a power augmenter (I usually link all my factories to the same power grid)

[sullen gull]

Ahh, I love using Liquid Biofuel for the jetpack, so I end up slooping the biomass chain.

[prisma thicket]

#screenshots message

Lol

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message lol, mine doing the same. Though in that same area are is the line for remains and slugs as well.

[prisma thicket]

xD

[sullen gull]

OK, finally got the infused Uranium alt I wanted. Time for bed lol.

[hollow vector]

0 reason to not use biofuel if you sloop them

its not even that much extra power

[sullen gull]

It actually has the best longevity./

[grizzled lotus]

are the big hogs with horns stronger than the normal big hogs with tusks?

[dusky relic]

#screenshots message

Funny how ONE tier 1 conveyor can completely screw up production

[marble tinsel]

mhm did a lot of beginner mistakes with belts n all that 😂

[dusky relic]

How usefull is the ||SAM tree||

In the MAM

[elder apex]

once you get the things in the SAM tree you'll wonder why you didn't get them earlier

[soft panther]

Hi guys is 1.1 more stable now? have they fix most of the bugs?

[spice patio]

#satisfactory-experimental

[prisma thicket]

What's the most useful/overpowered buildable in the game in your opinions? My vote goes to either Ladders or Ramps.

[peak wasp]

hi

[indigo hare]

Oh I did a massive fucky wucky, there are pressure conversion cubes in my copper powder machines

[jaunty jewel]

maybe refineries for all the pure recipes and all she other things its needed for like plastic and rubber

[indigo hare]

I changed one station of my trains to accommodate 2 engines but not the other station, so everything ended up off by one

[prisma thicket]

Whoops lol at least you figured out where the mixup occurred, now you just need to fix it 😛

[indigo hare]

Yeah, the iron on the concrete line is easy enough to fix because that only goes to 4 manufacturers, the cubes on the other hand is gonna be a pain

[dense violet]

Generally the scarier the look the worse they are to deal with

[prisma thicket]

You think 20 hard drives is enough stockpiled going into phase 3? I have all available recipes from phases 1 and 2, except the last one which was automated speed wiring.

[indigo hare]

I got so damn lucky, the one that carries the cubes hadn't actually docked yet

[coarse geode]

how tf do people place water extractors on land upside down in each other

[jaunty jewel]

mods and or scim

no idea if scim lets you rotate stuff like that or not

[coarse geode]

this blueprint had 20 of everything in each eachother

😭

[jaunty jewel]

yeah thats what happens when you download online blueprints

[dusky relic]

I'm going with wires

Because if you know what you're doing, you can go super fast with the wire rider thing

[dusky relic]

If they have yellow they can throw rocks at you with insane accuracy

[prisma thicket]

Both the big variants of hogs can throw rocks, the Cliff hogs and Nuclear hogs

[golden furnace]

Whats a good heavy modular frame production rate roughly speaking? I just finished a factory that makes 7.56/min that took me several days to fully complete I just dont want it to become obsolete by the end of phase 3 / start of 4

[tall lantern]

for build gun use that's plenty

any other factory that needs 'em can make their own

[boreal musk]

the hub.

[boreal musk]

single digit is always enough for buildable imo, unless you use them in alrge quantity like concrete for foundations

[coarse geode]

holy fuck my piping seems to work

[prisma thicket]

Hmmmm just into phase 3, where to put my first oil processing plant, northern lagoon area or western coast?

Can you still do the thing where you send off 2 milestones at once by loading both then quickly swapping after hitting launch?

[reef basin]

Up to you, like rest of the game 😛

[reef basin]

Afaik it was fixed, but not sure

[prisma thicket]

Damn lol

I'll give it a shot, I have the materials all ready for fluid packaging and the one that unlocks fuel gens

Yah, they fixed it 😦

[prisma thicket]

Man it feels nice to have Mk.4 logistics again xD had so many double belts for inputs because I needed more than a mk.3 could carry lol

[coarse geode]

what do i do with the excess water from making aluminium?

[last jackal]

Loop it back into the system.

[prisma thicket]

Feed it back into your bauxite refinery, and cut down the clock speed of your water extractor

[coarse geode]

oooooohhh

thats smart

[last jackal]

That is the entire point of it. Aluminum is a tutorial for looping back resources.

[coarse geode]

nuclear power will be fun

[night phoenix]

tbh im pretty sure making a large scale rocket fuel plant would be more time + resource efficient but you do you

[dense violet]

I recommend not to mix fresh and waste though
Have some refineries run on fresh abd some on waste. Just needs clocking

[distant hill]

I can make the water byproducts from aluminum feed back into the system and have it run flawlessly, but the system has to run full blast all the time, simple enough with an overflow and a grinder... or I can just make wet concrete and make life easy, filling up a dimensional storage and overflowing the rest to the sink. I prefer the later method, that way I'm not worrying about keeping it going full blast or fidgeting with it to get it going.

[boreal musk]

doesnt need to be an overflow, as long as the byproduct and the separate system that consume said byproduct has the same intake

[distant hill]

At the moment I'm more mixed on what to do with my aluminum production with transportation... It's far enough for a train but with a massive elevation change, so I ended up with a ludacrously long belt... Oof

[coarse geode]

i have more than enough water production yet my pipes are empty, great

[distant hill]

There can be oddities... I had a pipe that graphically was connected, but the game said "Nuh uh" and wouldn't send water through it until I rebuilt those sections of pipes. Trace it back and see if you can find a bugged spot, it's not something you did wrong, it's the game being buggy sometimes

I generally assume you did the obvious stuff like checked the lift with a pump

[coarse geode]

i have added like 20 pumps throughout

[boreal musk]

are the pumps powered?

[coarse geode]

yes

[boreal musk]

are they properly connected to the pipes?

are you really providing water enough to not pass the pipe limit?

what about the extractor?

[coarse geode]

everything connected

my consumption is 540 and im making over 1k

yet everything almost empty

[boreal musk]

see the buffer inside extractor, is it full?

[coarse geode]

one is almost full the other is empty

[boreal musk]

might need to check the pump again, bcs you can accidentally put them at wrong direction

and replace the pipe after you place the pumps

[prisma thicket]

What's the best way to make fuel if I want to process it into a large volume of turbofuel? Diluted Packaged fuel?

[boreal musk]

oil > hor > diluted fuel

[prisma thicket]

Diluted requires blenders right?

[boreal musk]

blender and refinery

[prisma thicket]

Ok, I only have access to refineries currently

[boreal musk]

for oil efficient, use the standard turbofuel recipe
if you want to save sulfur, use the turbo blend recipe

[coarse geode]

i actually have no clue how those stupid fucking pipes are supposed to work

[reef basin]

no, there's packaged variant

that needs only refineries

[coarse geode]

im producing over 500 more than necessary and theyre all almost empty

[prisma thicket]

Yah, that's what I was thinking, just need to work out the numbers for compacted coal, fuel, oil and the like. I'm skipping fuel and going straight to a turbofuel power plant

[reef basin]

personally I'd skip TF, do just diluted into nuclear

[prisma thicket]

Is there any height difference between your extractors and your water intakes?

[prisma thicket]

No thank you, no Nuclear until I have the entire process unlocked, I don't have the mental fortitude to deal with the waste just yet xD

[reef basin]

dealing with waste is easy, and doesn't need the entire process unlocked

and storing waste is also super easy 😄

[boreal musk]

no need to unlock until ficsonium, can just unlock plutonium and sink the rod

if you dont want to deal with waste

[prisma thicket]

Woot woot, hour and a half in phase 3 and I have all the milestones unlocked and one elevator part already loaded fully xD

[coarse geode]

ive compensated with roughly 20 pumps

[boreal musk]

pumps reset headlift

it doesnt stack, no matter how much you put them

[dull dune]

@chrome hollow love you

[chrome hollow]

guh

why are you here too

[sturdy mural]

guys do fuel types increase vehicle max speed and stuff? or is it just items/m usage

[prisma thicket]

I think the only movement thing that is affected by fuel type is the jetpack.

[sturdy mural]

idk my explorer feels a bit faster now

at least less slugish

[coarse geode]

making a train track is so unnecessarily annoying

you gotta go in a corner? yeah gg

you gotta go up or down? yeah not happening buddy

[prisma thicket]

As long as you work within the limitations of tracks it's really not that difficult. Much easier if you lay down foundations first. 90 degree turns require minimum of 3 foundations across by 3 deep. Trains can't travel up inclines of more than 3m, so you're best to use 2m ramps or a mix of 2 and 4m ones.

larger curves are much easier to do, and if you lay down straight tracks on both sides of a turn and then connect them, it's much easier to set up tighter corners.

[coarse geode]

wtf kind of bullshit recipe does radio control units have

gotta set up 5 factories first to make the computers and oscillators

[zenith pecan]

You'll love singularities then.

[prisma thicket]

That's one to look for alt recipes for, might make it slightly easier to produce if you can simplify some of the parts. I made a factory that produced 10 of those a minute in my last save, and it wasn't that big, all fit on one platform

[mortal ginkgo]

Why is this Space Elevator so C H U N G U S

[zenith pecan]

Considering it is a structure that reaches like 90 miles up or even further to an installation outside the atmosphere, if anything, its anchor is understated for what it does.

[mortal ginkgo]

Thank you. Now I allow it to stay Chungus.

He is a good boi. I can see that.

[coarse geode]

is there a way to scan harddrives faster?

[prisma thicket]

Nope, ten minutes every time, better to just busy yourself with other things while they are cooking, and just plop down a MAM when one pops so you can start another scan right away.

Wow... the Diluted Packaged Fuel loop is insanely efficient, if you can manage the canisters. 270 Oil and some water to make 720 Fuel, 40 plastic, 20 rubber and 20 fabric per minute O.o

And with 720 fuel, that makes 600 turbofuel, which does 80 gens at 100% speed or 32 fully overclocked 😄 I think I'll do the overclocked gens this time out, simplify the pipework a bit and save on space.

[tall lantern]

water tends to add a lot of output to raw resources

with the right alts you can convert 1 oil into 3 in (almost) any combination of plastic, rubber and fuel

[prisma thicket]

I've noticed, the Pure refinery recipes are incredible for ingots

Yah, I have most of the relevant oil alts already, saved up a bunch of hard drives before going to phase 3, almost through them all now lol and I have all milestones unlocked, so I'm jumping straight to turbofuel to cover my power needs for the next segments.

[coarse geode]

got a good oscillator recipe, time for automation

[ashen belfry]

1 platform isn't really precise.
I finished T5 and almost everything besides some minor energy and plastic/rubber transportation was on this platform.

[prisma thicket]

Fair point lol

It was I think 40x40 foundations at most, not tiny but not huge.

[ashen belfry]

Although minor energy production is kinda understated. 500GW

[prisma thicket]

Lol that's minor?

[dull dune]

cause i stalk you

why wont you talk to me ex?

[chrome hollow]

guh

[dull dune]

i did not mean to cheat on you

please take me back it was a first time mistake

i will stop talking to the other dude aswell man:(

just take me back PLEASE

[sturdy mural]

is the chainsaw only biofuel

[boreal musk]

yes

[sturdy mural]

ah frickbucket

[prisma thicket]

If I'm using the Diluted Packaged Fuel recipe in a loop, how many canisters should I put into the system to start with? Double the per minute req?

[boreal musk]

i put a stack usually

[prisma thicket]

If I need 720 per minute, you think 1 stack will be enough?

[tall lantern]

unlikely

[boreal musk]

just make a bp, and put one stack each set

[tall lantern]

1 stack per loop would probably be fine

[boreal musk]

not would, will

[tall lantern]

does depend on the size of your loop

can be convenient not to BP it like that so you can move the packages to somewhere more convenient to unpackage (higher up, near usage, or even another facility)

[left totem]

wait until you need to know that you need to them for pressure conversion cubes

[prisma thicket]

Yah, I may not be able to use that BP for this project, need 12 refineries and 24 packagers. Is a raised platform for the packagers a good idea? Seems like it might make some aspects more of a headache.

[coarse geode]

nah pipes have a mind on their own

theres no more oil coming into the pipeline but the amount of oil in there rises

[sturdy mural]

Sorry for ping, but how would you deal with a vertical ➡️ horizontal bend? in the round tunnel

[zenith pecan]

To get belts to/from the surface you mean?

[sturdy mural]

like the foundations

[fallen orbit]

Whenever I leave and join the game
I get a message of
Fuse blown!
One of your power grids shutdown
But it's not a fuse blown
My grid starts from 0mw consumption 0mw production 0mw max consumption and 0mw capacity then just comes back to normal

[sturdy mural]

quarterpipes and inner corners

[zenith pecan]

The quarter pipes etc form all the walls throughout the network, I use vertical shafts to move between levels or out to a mine.

[sturdy mural]

imma send in #screenshots what i got

[sturdy mural]

#screenshots message this is what i got, how would i do the inner bend

or how would i change the thing overall

[zenith pecan]

Ahh, there isn't a viable transition when trying to use curved vertical shafts, I use bog standard walls to create square vertical shafts.

[sturdy mural]

oh so verticals for you are square?

[zenith pecan]

Yep.

[sturdy mural]

wait lemme try smth

[prisma thicket]

Is 3 pipes of 240 or 2 pipes of 360 better for manifold purposes? Got 720 fuel coming out of 12 packagers

Nvm, answered my own question. 2 pipes of 360 flows evenly to 16 refineries (and I'll probably break it down futher to keep the manifolds small)

[fervent tartan]

sorry if its reduntant but just came back to game. Did they fix ceiling belt holes throttling resources in foundations?

[tall lantern]

don't recall that ever being an issue

[prisma thicket]

I've had no problems with floor holes throttling my belts or lifts

[sullen gull]

If you're referring to pipe floor holes, yes

[tall lantern]

pipe holes were historically a bit wack, but belts were fine

[fervent tartan]

the 1m or 2m foundations were bugged a few months ago

[fervent tartan]

the regular belt holes. They were not transferring the actual speed of a belt through some foundations i believe

[sullen gull]

Ahh, sorry. First I had heard of that.

[fervent tartan]

prob fixed then lol

win

[austere dune]

Is the player character FICSIT property?

[prisma thicket]

That's the way ADA looks at it, or at least all the gear you're wearing is.

[austere dune]

Honestly the player character probably is FICSIT property considering we're dropped onto a planet we're never expected to return from

[prisma thicket]

Fair point lol

Ok, I have 500 empty canisters per line of 6 packagers/unpackagers, is that gonna be enough to keep the diluted packaged fuel loop running?

[zenith pecan]

That is quite a broad request, with the package loop, I usually aimed to have the system about 60% full, that way it doesn't jam up, nor run short, so the longer the belts/larger the loop, more cans.

I tried the system at 100% once, the result was a shocker 🤣 it snarled up and gave up the ghost.

[white dawn]

If you've got individual isolated loops, you can generally get by with as little as 20-30 empty packages, though I generally just shove a full stack in there

[prisma thicket]

It's a relatively small loop, I have the refineries feeding directly into the unpackagers, and then it's a short distance to the packagers.

[white dawn]

If you're manifolding a bunch of them together you'll probably just want to watch the system for awhile and tweak until it's working properly

(I'd highly recommend just doing individual isolated loops, though -- far easier, and you can fit it all into a single blueprint (including the empty packages in the input buffer). Simple one-click deployment)

[fallen orbit]

Bro the amount of pumps ill have to use in my turbofuel plant is crazy

[zenith pecan]

You can have a merger with a can to add more containers, or an in-line can where you can add/remove containers, just place enough to make it stable then leave it be.

[prisma thicket]

Yah, I'll probably have to keep an eye on it I guess. Maybe an even 600 cans per line, a full stack per packager.

[sullen gull]

Ugh, I wish 1.1 fixed being able to get rid of these: #screenshots message

[prisma thicket]

Oh I have a container where all the cans are currently sitting

[zenith pecan]

Can you not bomb them?

[prisma thicket]

Or, 2 containers actually, one per set of 6.

[sullen gull]

The bigger ones you can, not the small ones 😦

[zenith pecan]

Urgh, I'll have to keep that in mind as I build out, I'm still collecting SAM nodes atm.

[analog palm]

after adding blueprints why are they not showing up ive restarted my game

[zenith pecan]

I finally recorded at least in part how I access deposits from below 😄 #screenshots message , though this one was marginally irritating due to stingers.

[white dawn]

Blueprints are stored separately from the main savegame. You should be able to copy them over into a new save dir, though. I think you need to save one blueprint on the new save first so that the directory exists

Unfortunately you'll have to re-do all the categorization, though

[analog palm]

ufff thanks

[leaden turret]

1.2prints update maybe?

[inner echo]

Tip: You can ctrl click power shards to 'fully load' the machine. (I really dislike drag and drop..

[zenith pecan]

Tbh, I wasn't thinking 😄

[austere dune]

Cast screws are easily a superior recipe to the regular screws

[analog palm]

where do i find the directory im so lost lol

[fallen orbit]

If my max consumption is 11gw
And consumption is 4.5gw
If I have 10gw production will I blow a fuse?

[white dawn]

In isolation, yeah, though removing rods means you can't make use of rod alts to improve resource efficiency

[inner echo]

immediately above the directory where the save games are.

It's just named 'blueprints'

[white dawn]

I'll leave it to anovelway; I've actually never shuffled blueprints between saves so I'm not really familiar with it much myself. :)

I generally take each save as an opportunity to try out different stuff with my blueprints

[royal rune]

Only if you go above 10gw in active consumption

[inner echo]

I've taken to sym-linking them...which I don't really suggest...confusing.

[analog palm]

some are showing but the one i added dont its a cbp

[austere dune]

Shoutout to iron wires

[inner echo]

As the other user suggested...I always save a single dummy one from the new save first. With a unique name. Then I would search the filesystem for that. There are usually two files for every bp (no idea why)

[fallen orbit]

Turbo fuel plant all the technicals in place connections done fuel is connected aswell
Now for the compacted coal gott bring 960/min of it with a train ;-;

[sturdy mural]

man i wanted to make chains out of pipes but
that's too much for me

unless some1 knows how to make them quick and easy

[fallen orbit]

If it works There is a hard metal looking rope in the architecture in the awesome shop

[sturdy mural]

1.0 not 1.1

[fallen orbit]

Oh

Why not 1.1? It is very stable

Been playing for over 50 hours on 1.1

[sturdy mural]

i'm too much of a scaredy-cat

[sullen gull]

1.1 is fine. So far it seems only minor bugs that surface on random use-cases.

Your saves "should' transfer once 1.1 is live as well.

[sturdy mural]

won't it auto transfer

[fallen orbit]

Sometimes satisfactory forces you to take a day or two of break lol

[sullen gull]

I mean, the save files are stored in the same loc either way, so yeah, technically.

[sturdy mural]

guys i might be stupid

nvm you cant do it that way

[sullen gull]

Anyone every try or have been able to clear this dumb quartz deposit in the middle of this lake? #screenshots message

[sturdy mural]

i did

oh wait the single ore piece

[zenith pecan]

Can you build a foundation low enough where you can reach it? if not, try extending a ladder down to it (the ladder method is how I build underwater.

[sturdy mural]

can you give a coordinate?

[sullen gull]

Yeah, tried both of those methods 😦 It allows me to see the prompt and all, but no reaction

[sullen gull]

sec

855,1617

[sturdy mural]

bet

[rugged abyss]

quick question. if i used a online tool to calculate the amount of machines i need for a product, is it better to start at the end and work towards the start or what?

[sullen gull]

There is a mercer under some explodable rocks that I was able to get, just not this quartz 💢

[sturdy mural]

oh wait thats a diffirent location that what i had oops

[sullen gull]

If you have the amount of machines needed already, you can start where ever you like. Logistics first, production, etc. All depends on how you want to lay it out and such.

[sturdy mural]

okay no the prompt does not work

[fresh wharf]

Whats the point of buying materials at awesome shop if you're gonna need them eventually for milestones?
Isn't that buying from the company to give them their own products?

[sturdy mural]

so you can spend tickets on 200 screws

[sullen gull]

If you have extra coupons, it can save some time if you are just trying to complete a single task instead of setting up automation.

[fresh wharf]

No, like, I meant lore wise

[sullen gull]

Don't worry, ADA lets you know how Ficsit feels about it, in a couple different ways 😏

[sturdy mural]

okay i managed to softlock myself trying to get that quartz

[fresh wharf]

Just respawn

[vestal mica]

in australia they do that. in the northern hemisphere they build it in the other direction

[sturdy mural]

NEVER

[fresh wharf]

It's ok you can do it

[sturdy mural]

no

[fresh wharf]

I believe in you

[sturdy mural]

i'm not breaking my accident-less streak

[fresh wharf]

Fine stay softlocked

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message It shows me the prompt. Just no action unfortunately.

[sturdy mural]

i'll find a way

[mortal ginkgo]

guys

FUSE BORKE

I PANIK

[sullen gull]

Dang, was hoping I could remove it with SCIM 😒

[sturdy mural]

where

[mortal ginkgo]

Everywhere! But just kidding tho'. I am at beginning, its common to get fues borke

[sturdy mural]

guys anyone knows if you can actually get rid of the nut trees

[mortal ginkgo]

if you mean the Beryl Nuts, yes. Chainsaw.

[cyan garnet]

Depends on how big the build is, honestly

[sturdy mural]

no

[rugged abyss]

2 smart plates per minute for now. just want to test my instruction following skills

[cyan garnet]

One thing that really helps me is to lay out all the machines for the production line before running any logistics. Gives me the chance to reorganize or change alignment or whatever. And I always give myself more space than I need. At least two foundations between groups of machines

[cyan garnet]

Smart plating isn’t too bad. I’d suggest grouping your machines for each step of the production line

[rugged abyss]

but on a side note, how can i forcefully unlock something? i want the floodlights from the awesome shop

[rugged abyss]

i will

[cyan garnet]

What do you mean “forcefully unlock” - everything in the shop takes coupons