satisfactory

[peak wasp]

this game is putting it through the ringer especially when i already have CT

[dense violet]

well #math-and-meta is a good place to get some advice on a design before putting into practice

[brittle seal]

is 1.1 already out?

[dense violet]

#announcements

[brittle seal]

ty

[livid heath]

chat, we got diagnonal wall build techniques, but how do i make it so the floors on the top level goes well with it too?

[peak wasp]

headed on to finishing phase 2

gonna have to shut down everything just to put all of my coal power to starting up fuel gens lol

[fresh wharf]

Hey, who has a guide on factory building? I can't find any straightforward answers on YouTube and my factories look so messy and aren't very effective...

I'm currently at the steel stage and I have no idea how any of these work

[fallen orbit]

Completed phase 3 yesterday
Just finished a aluminium factory

[fallen orbit]

Anything could be a factory man if you think about it!
Some constructors setup with a miner to make concrete is a factory aswell
Just try to make the machines fit as close as possible with no impact on production if you don't want to do that place them with perfect gaps to look good
Then just box it up with walls lol add a window or two with one or two factories built you will get the hand of it

With conveyor lifts also try to scale factories vertically but it's a bit tricky at the start

[fresh wharf]

True, but what I meant is my factories aren't very effective and are a vertical mess of floating machines

I find it weird that for every single freight I send, I take an hour to gather the materials

Also, is it normal that all coal sources are a kilometer away from spawn?

[peak wasp]

depends, but yeah usually.

[coarse geode]

i have a spot with 8 iron nodes next to each other, what should i produce there?

[fresh wharf]

Alright, thanks, was about to make a new world for closer coal sources for a second

Lol

[peak wasp]

the entire point of the game my lovely friend is development. both in the mental factor of knowledge, and the physical factor of experience growth. your factories are going to be quite stank at first

[fresh wharf]

Do you think it gets easier when I get blueprints?

[peak wasp]

one thing you'll have to get used to real quick is the realization that some node types are crazy far

[peak wasp]

depends, i dont need them yet cause im not using modular roads or anything atm but its all variable on use case

[prisma thicket]

Depends on the quality of the nodes and what recipes you have. With efficient enough recipes you can produce all of your iron products and even some steel there.

[peak wasp]

i would aim for getting the zipline and blade runners quick though, that stuff saves time if you start making power lines further out. my quartz node which is like 1,200m away has got a line that saves me over like, 5 mins of travel

plus its on the way to current coal / steel plant

[fresh wharf]

What about the tractor? Is it good for movement?

[peak wasp]

hehe, funny you think vehicles do you any good on ground terrain ;)

just get used to crouch-sprint jumping, its all you've really got until you get more vital tools like the runners and jetpack later down the line

[mortal ginkgo]

Yes but not for long.

[fresh wharf]

Alright, BTW can I dm you one of my factories to see what I can modify?

[peak wasp]

my friend, that is not for me to calculate! this game plaforms off of user-by-user understanding and growth, not so much the input of others.

if you are truly that inclined however, you can recon the #math-and-meta channels or #screenshots respectively for inspo / changes / etc.

if this is your first playthrough, i suggest going it mostly blind. it helps.

[fresh wharf]

Alright, thanks then

[peak wasp]

your worst enemy is comparison. i have that issue as well.

[fresh wharf]

I just find it unenjoyable to craft everything by hand as my factories are far slower..

I just have no problems with plates, rods, concrete, wire
That's all

[peak wasp]

kinda the point. you aint supposed to like hand-crafting

i personally just get the numbers as close as i can [i suck with math] and just have them oversaturate the lines needed.

like my modular frames, which the numbers are so wack that even my smelters are backed up :)

[fresh wharf]

Yes, that's why I want better factories

[peak wasp]

i just dont care to bother with close-shaves cause its so early on. im not even dealing with fuel just yet, but once i get those gens up ill be more comfy with pseudo-permanent installs of things

im about to have to hand craft a boatload of motors so

yipee to me

[silent igloo]

Huh

[peak wasp]

wot

[night phoenix]

motors are my worst enemy atm

even after the power gen setup you need them for everything

[median drift]

How many reactors can 5 uRods/min power?

Gonna do plutonium sinking.

[boreal musk]

one npp at 100% consume 0.2/min

[median drift]

25?! That’s 62,000MW! I think I’ll do 20, just so I can always have extra rods, just in case.

That’s still 50,000MW? Jeez, now I can see why people do nuclear.

[dense violet]

50 gw isn't actually all that much when you get to particle accelerators

if you want enough room to do your own projects I'd probably aim for at least 150gw

unless you go massive that'll give you a nice buffer to work with

[median drift]

It’s a lot for me when I do like 0.5 TPR/min, I’m not building a mega accelerator factory!

[dense violet]

I mean it's up to you really. Just depends what your goals are. if you keep doing stuff past phase 5 and make your own projects 150gw is very reasonable

[fresh wharf]

Are assemblers meant to craft very slow or is it just smart plating that takes a while?
I remember it took like an hour for just 50

[dense violet]

well look at how many it does pm

[fallen orbit]

There are different timings to craft on different items

[dense violet]

if it does 1 pm then yeah 50 will take just about 1hr

[median drift]

Wait young one, you’ll be spending hundreds of hours in this game, a single hour is nothing.

[fallen orbit]

More assemblers = faster
Find some power slugs for power shards for easier manual machine craftings

[fresh wharf]

It's been 16 hours and I'm still on coal...

[fallen orbit]

That's completely fine and ok

I got fuel at hour 55 i think

[fresh wharf]

I forgot that's a thing

[fallen orbit]

I used coal for a WHILE

[median drift]

That’s normal, kinda fast actually.

[dense violet]

you can be on coal very easily until tier 7.

[fresh wharf]

No, like I'm figuring out how to use coal

[fallen orbit]

16 hours is really good imo for first time

[fallen orbit]

Yea yea

[pure osprey]

Hey all just wondered if there has been a release date for console yet ?

[fresh wharf]

This game gives me hallucinations from crafting 100 rotors every time

[dense violet]

#announcements

[fallen orbit]

It's a bit tricky at start but you'll get used to getting coal power
In no time you'll have 10's of em running

[fallen orbit]

Rotors factory it is mate

[fresh wharf]

I forgot assemblers existed...

[fallen orbit]

When I unlocked motors (this is rotor+stator)
I got a headache from crafting 50 straight up went to make a factory

[fresh wharf]

Rotors are made of what again?

[fallen orbit]

Most of these factories like rotors,reinforced plates , screws , rods , iron plates you will need forever

[fresh wharf]

I only made screws, rods, iron plates, concrete, wire, cable factories for now

[fallen orbit]

Rod and screw

[coarse geode]

what uses does oil have?

[fresh wharf]

The reinforced plates are still somewhat mentally bearable to craft

[fallen orbit]

Alot

[fallen orbit]

Nah man when you need them in factory making it gets headache but not hard to automate

Get these 2 things automated first imo rotor and rip

[fresh wharf]

Alright

[fallen orbit]

@fresh wharf also blueprint tbh don't make life much easier
In my 100hr save I haven't used them alot

[fresh wharf]

Man I should have figured out power poles could be connected to other power poles wayy earlier because I have 50 biomass burners laying around my factories now

[dense violet]

then you don't know how to use them

[fallen orbit]

I'll tell you something more dumb
For 4 hours I didn't know how to use portable miners

[fresh wharf]

I didn't know they existed until I unlocked miners, you're not alone

[dense violet]

at the very least you can set up very basic sets of constructors, or assemblers or whatever in groups with connected belts and power to quickly put up sections

[night phoenix]

i thought you could put a belt in a portable miner 😭

[fallen orbit]

Yea I do have those sets but everytime I need to change directions so i end up destroying some stuff

[fallen orbit]

XD

[fresh wharf]

Theres belts in this game??

[fallen orbit]

Bro what

You are 16 hours in right?

[fresh wharf]

...yes

[fallen orbit]

....

[arctic swallow]

I think it's because of you ADA says that you can't connect belts to portible miners

[dense violet]

why change direction? aim in the way you need it

[night phoenix]

i didnt hear the ada voiceline 😦

[dense violet]

or build a belt back the othe rway if you really have to

[fresh wharf]

Ohhh you meant conveyor belts 😂

[tulip orchid]

The game literally tells you that doesn't work yeah

[fallen orbit]

Yea happen to done that alot
But I think am gonna make a inverted direction set aswell

[fresh wharf]

I remember ADA taking a very long speech on portable miners not being able to be connected to conveyors

[fallen orbit]

Okay okay yea you know belts

Also 71 i recommend you using conveyor lifts when I started using them in builds it made it alot more clean

[arctic swallow]

i hate when ada says that i should save humanity while i built my rail tracks for 5 hours :(

she even said that it is 0/10

[night phoenix]

ada idc i just want coal power

[hidden sparrow]

Me when i kill ada with rocks and a chainsaw

[night phoenix]

i lowkey thought the chainsaw did creature damage

[fallen orbit]

Man Ada nowadays been telling me everytime I build I could do it better like bruh

[fallen orbit]

Actually it should tbh

Sawing some spiders would be nice

[arctic swallow]

nobelisk

[night phoenix]

ended up disabling creatures cause im not tryna pvp in my factory simulator

[craggy anchor]

Wouldn't that be too gruesome?

[fallen orbit]

Same lol I disabled them at 25 hours mark when I know I could disable them

[fallen orbit]

What's gruesome

[craggy anchor]

Sawing creatures

[night phoenix]

got the guns and all but its not fun gameplay

[fallen orbit]

I although don't mind spiders but have archanphobia mode on cuz this one time building a factory a spider jumpscared the heck Outta me

[arctic swallow]

are these cats from internt or are thay devs cats?

[craggy anchor]

Each time I go on this chat I learn so many new things. Never knew there is arachnophobia mode in the game or that you can disable creatures.

[fallen orbit]

Guys are there mk6 belts?

[arctic swallow]

yes

[fallen orbit]

Yea same i learned it from chat aswell xd

[median drift]

Yes, they go fast.

[fallen orbit]

Just got mk5s today

Aluminium also now automated

240 ingots per min
And those sheets automated aswell forgot the name

[median drift]

Mk6 belts go quite fast.

[fallen orbit]

Like what speeds

[median drift]

Aluminium Casing.

[night phoenix]

real talk whats the best jetpack fuel

[fallen orbit]

No the one used in building the belts

[fallen orbit]

Biofuel is the most long lasting but I heard rocket fuel is fast

[craggy anchor]

I just unlocked the 4th and 5th parts for space elevator and looking at what I have to do rn I'm just feeling overstimulated

[fallen orbit]

I have gone through alot of packaged biofuel

[night phoenix]

rn im just making the packaged fuel but idk if thats the best option

[fallen orbit]

What phase you at

[median drift]

1200 item/min for belts.

Alclad sheets for aluminium.

[fallen orbit]

Packaged biofuel get that

[craggy anchor]

3rd

the one with trains

[fallen orbit]

You got depos unlocked?

[night phoenix]

i kinda want it to be automatable tho so i dont have to stock up on expeditions

[craggy anchor]

what's that?

[dense violet]

stuff from the alien tree in the MAM

[craggy anchor]

oh wait

[dense violet]

so ... spoilers

[fallen orbit]

Dimensional depoter uploaders

[craggy anchor]

no

I don't

[arctic swallow]

its the ability to have 3000 metric tons of concrete in your head

[fallen orbit]

It isn't that bad to automate tbh just get the biofuel solid automated to be only inputed rest automate

[craggy anchor]

I never found SAM

[fallen orbit]

I have gone through 1200 or more biofuel from jetpack

[fallen orbit]

Grasslands the upside U shape building in the ground

Uploaders are so good I can't say it enough

[craggy anchor]

I don't understand a word from what you just said

[fallen orbit]

When I got to know about depos instantly went on a mission to max

[night phoenix]

yea thats fair enough but i have spare oil and it should be simple to do

[fallen orbit]

xD

[fallen orbit]

Yea you won't run out of i that quick as it lasts longer

[night phoenix]

might as well use the oil for something cause im not building a 4th generator setup

[fallen orbit]

@craggy anchor there is plenty of sam ores in the map i spawned in grasslands area so it was very close to me

[fallen orbit]

Does packaged biofuel even require oil?

It's water and solid biofuel in think

[dense violet]

for the packages

[night phoenix]

im just doing the packaged fuel so its automatic

[dense violet]

unless you have an alt for the packages

[fallen orbit]

Oh alr

[night phoenix]

lmfao i just got a alt for them as you said that

[craggy anchor]

I just realised that the ,,upside u" that you were talking about is literally next to my base

[night phoenix]

yeah at the bottom of the cave is the sam node

[fallen orbit]

Go down the hole be careful might be 1-2 spiders

[night phoenix]

for me it was 1 but a leaper

[fallen orbit]

For me it was a peaceful cat

[night phoenix]

lmfaooo same

i changed the settings as soon as i died to a spider

[fallen orbit]

Man I should get gas masks automated shouldn't i

[night phoenix]

tbh once i got nobelisks i just bombed everything

[atomic notch]

Gas filters at least

[fallen orbit]

The only way I die now is sometimes running out of fuel because of carelessness in mid air

[night phoenix]

where do yall get your oil

[fallen orbit]

Oh yea gas filters mb

[atomic notch]

Oil nodes

[fallen orbit]

Near the shore

Sea shore

[night phoenix]

same

[fallen orbit]

My 2 plastic refinery rubber production and 22gw fuel plant all there

[night phoenix]

rocket fuel?

[fallen orbit]

Not yet

I am gonna rip apart my fuel plant soon tho

[night phoenix]

rn im tapping all of them and its only 4600 mw#

[atomic notch]

Rip

[fallen orbit]

Once I have blenders unlocked + have a good setup on fuel power

[atomic notch]

I just tapped like 600 and got like 6700

[fallen orbit]

Cuz rn am using the packaging and unpackaging diluted fuel method

[fallen orbit]

Wdym by tapping btw

[night phoenix]

ahh i dont got the diluted fuel

[atomic notch]

Extract

[night phoenix]

btw do yall know how to get the oil out of the lil rocks with a oil fountain

[craggy anchor]

OH MY GOD SAM

[fallen orbit]

Packaged diluted fuel method of fuel power is kinda a bit tideous I went fr it took a while but still it has fluctuations

[atomic notch]

Well pressurizer

[fallen orbit]

Yessir

[night phoenix]

must be a phase 3 thing 😭

[atomic notch]

4 i think

[fallen orbit]

What is a pressurizer lol

Oh it is a thing

[atomic notch]

Stick it on resource wells

[night phoenix]

im not doing all dat to get 1 extra node of oil

[fallen orbit]

I just got to phase 4 (mind me)

[atomic notch]

You will in phase 4 haha

[night phoenix]

just finished phase 2 a couple days ago

[fallen orbit]

Only unlocked the mk5s hoverpack and aluminium rn

I rushed phase 3 when I automated hmfs , computers and vfs

[eager siren]

What is the reasoning behind packaging? why not feed it direct?

[atomic notch]

Yeah i just finished phase 2 in the lil solo world im finishing up

[night phoenix]

rn i was just finishing my power plant but im gonna start automating the other parts i need for phase 3

[craggy anchor]

It's reasearch time baby!!!

[fallen orbit]

It's been a while since I built that plant I forget a bit but I think it was
A recipe for packaged diluted fuel which you had to directly make ith a recipe then unpackaged it then feed the empty canisters back through a canister loop

[fallen orbit]

You will be enlighted by the might depoters

[fallen orbit]

I did computers first

[atomic notch]

They just had this talk yesterday. Ill see if i can find it

[night phoenix]

rn iv got the versatile frameworks coming in but i need to do the industrial manufacturing milestone first

[fallen orbit]

First time I used trains was for computers plastic

[fallen orbit]

Yea the big boy manufactures

[night phoenix]

yea my base is quite far from the coast so might have to use trains

[fallen orbit]

I recommend you make a blueprint when you unlock manufacturers

[fallen orbit]

It was nice using them for first time for plastic now I have 3-4 running but all of them are short distances

[night phoenix]

tbh so far havent used blueprints or verticality just chilling with my factories

[fallen orbit]

Never used vehicles toh

[fallen orbit]

You will have to get manufactures inputs blueprinted as feeding 4 of them and plus with a chain of manufactures get tricky

[atomic notch]

#math-and-meta message

[night phoenix]

tbh i might have to move my space elevator cause the t2 parts are being made right next to it and idk if il have enough space

[fallen orbit]

You will need alot of space for them

[night phoenix]

i have a lot of computers from exploring so i might be able to skip part of the grind

[fallen orbit]

They get real chonky with the inserters and oll

I meant the input lines

[atomic notch]

Yeah dude space elevator doesnt need a permanent spot

[night phoenix]

think my plan is just to tap a different source of oil for a plastic/rubber factory

[atomic notch]

Yeah

[fallen orbit]

If I remember correctly only 100 computers are required or 200 maybe

[atomic notch]

More oil

[fallen orbit]

For the adaptive control untis

[craggy anchor]

Man that's so cool. Gonna play with that later

[night phoenix]

tbh i might have to use the factory cart glitch for more somersloops

its way too annoying to get them

[fallen orbit]

Man the days when I had to run back to base just to get more concrete because I only had 500 when I came to produce smart plates lol

[atomic notch]

Oh yeah im prolly still gonna get at least 1 computer manufacturer goin just to have em. But you wont need permanent setups for modular engines or adaptive control units

[fallen orbit]

I only used 8 somesloops so far

I automated computers to 10/m idk why
Most of them are sinked

[night phoenix]

tbh same but i find it annoying to look for sloops when you just want to build a factory

[fallen orbit]

But they will probably be used in future

[fallen orbit]

What I do is whatever the item I need most of rn I put the sloops in that factory

[atomic notch]

Thats why i look for them when i do t wanna build a factory lol

[fallen orbit]

The mercer pheres grind also was bad but it had to be done

[night phoenix]

didnt even use that much and i feel like i never have any 😭

[fallen orbit]

Am gonna collect atleast 16 more sloops soon

[atomic notch]

Yeah

I gotta get more too

[night phoenix]

tbh i always have way more spheres than i need cause i dont rlly use that many depots

[compact nest]

100% the map. It's funny

[fallen orbit]

I never plan on using sloops tbh lol

[atomic notch]

Augmenters?

[fallen orbit]

I got depos on most of the stuff

[night phoenix]

tbh i should also do that but im lazy

[fallen orbit]

Can't remember it on top of my head what where augmentors again?

[night phoenix]

i just want more sloops to boost my motor production rn

[atomic notch]

Power boost

[night phoenix]

speaking of i gotta research that rn since i found a sloop

[fallen orbit]

Concrete,plates,rips,rotor,stator,motor,silica,quartzcrystal,cables,rods,screws,wires,quickwire,rubber,plastic,hmfs,steelbeam,steelpipes
Probably more that's all I have on depos rn

[fallen orbit]

I have them unlocked but didn't use as done need it rn

[night phoenix]

yeah rn what i do is if i need a part i take it from the machines directly

prob not a good idea

[fallen orbit]

It gets annoying with so many parts in production to go to a specific factory so depos cool

How many hours in are you guys

[prisma viper]

guys why does my truck station not work properly

[night phoenix]

32h on my first playthrough rn

[prisma viper]

i made like a road for it then it just falls off because i made like a sky bridge thing

[fallen orbit]

Tbh very good playtime I just completed p3 and am at like 104 hours

[boreal musk]

computer is easier to automate than hmf by miles tbh

[fallen orbit]

Hmfs automated is so good
When I saw the first container filling up was amazing

• very good for points as I sink overflow

Although I only did 2/m hmfs the factory scale was a bit big i sloops them for 4/?

[atomic notch]

On this world or in total

[fallen orbit]

4/m*

[night phoenix]

havent finished phase 3 im at phase 2 rn

[fallen orbit]

First play through

[night phoenix]

the one where you need the computers and stuff

[boreal musk]

with proper alts, you can eliminate oil when automating computer, really convenient

[fallen orbit]

Yea yea

[atomic notch]

First playthrough was back in u4 lol

[fallen orbit]

You only need a few in p3 so don't mind using oil tbh

[fallen orbit]

I mean whatever you are playing currently

[boreal musk]

thats one reason why i save oil for phase 4, cuz you dont need a lot of them in phase 3 outside of power

[coarse geode]

90 hours in and i still cant get electricity going wtf is this bullshit, this game is bugged as shit

[fallen orbit]

Plastic is required for manufacturers and alot of rubber is required for modular engines syou will need to complete p3

[atomic notch]

Lemme check

[night phoenix]

tbh im using interactive map and iv found a nice spot for tapping oil

[fallen orbit]

I think around 4,000 rubber it was required for modular engines?

For p3

[boreal musk]

4000 rubber is easy as long as you have them automated, hence i said "not much oil used"

150 oil to automate plastic/rubber id enough for your whole play through

[fallen orbit]

Yea

[atomic notch]

46 hours

[fallen orbit]

What phase you at

[atomic notch]

Just finished the phase 3 power upgrade. Finna start workin on manufacturing

[night phoenix]

lowkey im not as slow as i thought

[cyan garnet]

Are you still struggling with the water for your coal plants?

[fallen orbit]

You mean finished the modular engines ,adaptive units phase?

[atomic notch]

No

[fallen orbit]

That's p2 then

[atomic notch]

Just got to oil

[night phoenix]

tapping the lil lake in the grassy fields worked for me

[cyan garnet]

They have a thread in #1038092680493801533 from yesterday they never came back to and are complaining about electricity in main chat here

[fallen orbit]

There is a coal hole near the grasslands with 4 coal normal nodes
I did 48 gens there

[atomic notch]

Eh this is all just grinding until p4 when i get to build fun stuff anyway

[night phoenix]

48 coal gens is wild 💀

i just got 8 and went straight to oil

[fallen orbit]

#screenshots

[atomic notch]

I have 51.2 coal gens in my world rn

[fallen orbit]

I just wanted to do big scale I could've overclocked

[night phoenix]

bro is pollution final boss

[atomic notch]

Pollution isnt real

[fallen orbit]

I care about humanity didn't do 96 gens

Imagine if you had to take care about pollution in this game

[night phoenix]

FICSIT encourages exploitation of alien planets

at any cost

[fallen orbit]

Any cost

Even lizard dog annihilation?

[night phoenix]

fuck dem dogs

[atomic notch]

😳

[mortal ginkgo]

Technically no, since they bring stuff to home = providing for factory = efficiency increase.

[fallen orbit]

What if they bring a waste barrel?

= harming pioneer = annihilation

[mortal ginkgo]

Use it for the next phase? Like doh?

If the doggo is able to find nuclear waste, that means doggo is already at nuclear power phase

[fallen orbit]

Oh I thouht they were harmful mb

[mortal ginkgo]

Maybe you should get better than doggo?

[mortal ginkgo]

Yeah, harmful on unefficient pioneers kek.

[night phoenix]

doggo sweatin

[fallen orbit]

😭

[atomic notch]

Good karma is nuke bad larma is waste hahaha

[mortal ginkgo]

Doggo doin' dem' factories yo.

[mortal ginkgo]

wait, they can find nukes?

[fallen orbit]

Scared of the day when doggos run full fledged Nuclear plants

[atomic notch]

I think they can find anything

[mortal ginkgo]

holy based doggos

[fallen orbit]

Sometimes I think doggos might just be ADA's companions

[atomic notch]

Ill put my theory in story spoilers lol

[night phoenix]

my friend spoiled the ending to me 😦

[atomic notch]

Rude

[mortal ginkgo]

I think the actual problem is you are still calling that monster, friend.

You deserve to get keked. Here, have a kek: :kek:

[twilit remnant]

yo guys im pretty new to the game, i have to craft adaptive control unit and im watching some videos where people dont use liquid. i was wondering whats the best way to produce it and which recipes should i use

[atomic notch]

For beating phase 3 id just do a temp setup since you wont need them for a bit afterwards

[twilit remnant]

ok thanks

[cyan garnet]

It’s fine to make a temporary setup for making space elevator parts and feed them with containers since you need fixed amounts

You can use sloops to cut the production time in half

[clever pier]

anyone know where the save file is located when playing on linux using proton?

(works fine btw, both 1.0 and experimental)

[atomic notch]

Should still be able to find it through steam

I can check rq

Got to manage then browse local files

[clever pier]

i can open the folder with the game install files from steam but I ddon't see any option to open the save file foldder?

that takes me to the game install dir

[craggy anchor]

Is there like a crazy amount of mercer spheres in the game to collect?

[cyan garnet]

298 on the map

[dense violet]

if you only find half , you'll hae more than you'll ever need

[cyan garnet]

Enough to fully max out all the research in the MAM and have around 200 DDUs

Eventually I got to a point where I didn’t really go out of my way to pick spheres up when exploring or whatever

[atomic notch]

Might be a #1038092680493801533 thing. I just assumed it was there. I never pull my save files tho

[fallen orbit]

Max speed is 240/m on depos right? Or am wrong

[cyan garnet]

Correct. That is per uploader, however. So if you are making 480/min of something you can feed that to two uploaders and get twice the replenishment

Common to do w high volume resources like concrete

[fallen orbit]

I only asked that to verify if I maxed my depos mam tree xd but yea I get it

[fallen orbit]

Tbh I don't ever run out of concrete with one depo but specific usecase ofcourse

[boreal musk]

the last time i did exploring was 1.0 launch, and then next saves i just use pak mod to summon them

[cyan garnet]

But yes if you’ve finished out the MAM research tree then it taps out at 240

[cyan garnet]

I only have concrete shortages when doing massive builds where I’m laying a lot of foundations at once. 6x6 foundation blueprint goes through concrete quick

[fallen orbit]

I remember in start when I had so much concrete for the first time it felt like achievement lol

[fallen orbit]

Oh yea the concrete blueprints haven't thought of using them for faster building

I might use them when I will build a better fuel plant

[atomic notch]

Molded beams is gona use so much concrete almost wanna wait till aluminum beams before i go for hmf factory lol

[cyan garnet]

You can lay them efficiently w blueprint snapping mode too. And other 6x6 blueprints will snap on top

[fallen orbit]

But that time may come soon am at 9gw consumption of my 24gw production

[boreal musk]

using bp for concrete alot to the point im making a factory for 1200/min concrete with 5 depots

[fallen orbit]

My factory decoration is make it less box looking from top and some windows xD

[atomic notch]

Yall decorate?

[fallen orbit]

Damn 5 depos what you building man

[fallen orbit]

I have only done it 3 times hmfs , versatile framework and aluminium factory

It doesn't look that good tho #screenshots

Any tips on better building guys ? Look what I built latest

[cyan garnet]

Sometimes. Or I start on it and then get distracted part way through

[boreal musk]

i decorated my factory from my mind

[fallen orbit]

For me I just lay down floors and do the technicals stuff then log off for sometime then comeback to finish

[limber mulch]

@azure swan Thank you for your fix for incorrect custom colors - it worked like a champ!

[boreal musk]

it was when im building my 300GW rocket plant, 20 floors of concrete

[atomic notch]

All my current factories are either gonna get upgraded or deleted feel like decorations get in the way

[cyan garnet]

I will at least use pillars to hold up floors when building vertical

[fallen orbit]

You got screenshots of it?

[fallen orbit]

Interior?

[boreal musk]

#screenshots message

[fallen orbit]

After they added elevators it gets motivating to make floors

[fallen orbit]

The railway road looks even better

[atomic notch]

My game crashes all the time on experimental i dont get elevators yet🙃

But i wont really make a floor unless i need to

Like sticking a few hundred fuel gens somewhere lol

[cyan garnet]

Yeah. I’ll use pillars to measure out the height I need for clearance and then put the next floor of foundations on top

Particle accelerators are so damn tall

[fallen orbit]

I use walls for the 3 buildings I built to measure height

[cyan garnet]

I guess my aesthetic is more of a parking garage vibe lol

[atomic notch]

My aesthetic is doing crazy clock speeds to get easy belt inputs lol

Especially with screws make those easy and everything will be less stressful no crazy screw balancers

#math-and-meta message

Literally just need 1 steel screw constructor for each assembler

[neat marlin]

how do blueprints work? I am thinking about unlocked them next

[cyan garnet]

You place down a blueprint designer, put whatever inside it and save the blueprint. Then it becomes available to build that blueprint via the build gun just like regular machines

Handy for pre-making manifolds for smelters with belts and power poles already hooked up, for example

Also the blueprint will remember any recipe choices, overclocking, etc

Can be useful for even something as mundane as a 4x4 foundation platform

[silk rose]

ok so satisfactory will use more than 8gb of vram on 4k, ultra, lumen?
bc when i see different bench marks it doesnt, and recommended is 8

bc the choice is between 3070 and 6700xt

[night phoenix]

tbh on my 3060 ti satisfactory runs easy on max settings without fps drops

[coarse geode]

im fucking done with this game

electricity is fucking impossible

[night phoenix]

what phase are you in>

[atomic notch]

👍

You can play with no power cheat on if you struggle with power production

[coarse geode]

i spent days farming crashshites to get the materials to craft some coal generators and then they dont even work

[atomic notch]

!wikisearch coal power

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=coal

[atomic notch]

!wikisearch coal generator

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=coal

[atomic notch]

Idk how this shit works lol

There should be a schematic in the wiki tho

[deft frigate]

It's only grabbing the first word

!wikisearch oil

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=oil

[deft frigate]

!wikisearch heavy

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=heavy

[atomic notch]

Bot spam lol

[silk rose]

ultra lumen 4k?

[night phoenix]

yeah

[rancid turret]

!wikisearch cg

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[atomic notch]

Cg ok

[night phoenix]

personally the first setup worked fine for me

[frozen cloud]

fuck coal
go explore crash sites for items
build alien augmenter for 500mw
build geothermal for even more

[atomic notch]

Thx

[night phoenix]

tbh if you have some decent factories you can rush oil

[rancid turret]

you can also search for Coal+Generator

[atomic notch]

@coarse geode

[rancid turret]

use the + instead of a space

[atomic notch]

Sure

[atomic notch]

As always its just user error

[fallen orbit]

Hate trucks man can't even get myself to use them without building a fully clean road

[atomic notch]

Yeah

Logistics always sucks.

[cinder raptor]

welcome in same GPU team lol

[atomic notch]

I think its in steam user data. I just looked up how to do it tho

[clever pier]

its a really long path ~/.steam/steam/steamapps/compatdata/526870/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/AppData/Local/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames/

each steam game installed in linux / proton includes a fake c drive userdata

[spice patio]

And that start can be different depending on distro.
Same Steamapps as the install is on.

[clever pier]

yeah also if its installed in a different drive then in its that drive not the home user folder. I'm using Bazzite linux

but the game runs great no issues

[night phoenix]

tbh i feel like the 4x power consumption of somersloops and the limited amount is too harsh

it should be one or the other

[mortal ginkgo]

somersloops lets you create stuff out of literal thin air

[night phoenix]

kinda weird how you cant make them like powershards

[mortal ginkgo]

your final product factory is doubled by merely having them in the last factory buildings

I mean, that makes them valuable

[night phoenix]

i think its just kinda weird how this factory game about automation has these really valuable limited resources that you cant renewably obtain

[white dawn]

IMO sloops are balanced quite well

They're just super powerful, they need downsides otherwise the game would be a breeze

Both in terms of limited quantity and extreme power consumption

If the game were, like, incredibly tight on resources I might disagree, but with the amount of material on the map, you've really gotta work to exhaust anything; it'd be trivial to complete the whole game without ever even using a sloop

[pastel carbon]

I feel the opposite, I think those limitations are pretty lenient

I think it's just right for being able to duplicate stuff out of thin air

[white dawn]

Also, this factory game about automation limits their quantity partially so that you are encouraged to keep on building more automated factories. :D

Infinite sloops == less factory. :)

Sloops are sort of a way to avoid the primary gameplay loop

[pastel carbon]

One thing that would be nice is some kind of sloop tracker

So you can find where all your sloops are ingame

[white dawn]

Heh, could add "used sloops" to the object tracker maybe. :D

[pastel carbon]

You can do it with external tools, but I think it would be nice to be able to find them easily ingame

[white dawn]

It helps if you decide to give sloop'd machines a unique customizer skin, though of course that requires some forethought, and doesn't help if you didn't already do that

[night phoenix]

true, but i think some lategame recipe with ficsonium wouldnt hurt at all

[pastel carbon]

Idk, I think infinite sloops is really op

Being able to duplicate everything would change post-game, and maybe even tier 9, gameplay significantly

[junior laurel]

You can make an artificial sloop... it's an alien power matrix. Best ya gonna get :]

[night phoenix]

tbh i dont see why post game matters, its not part of the story so its just for fun

[pastel carbon]

It matters if you're playing it, I'd say

[white dawn]

In that case just give yourself a bunch of sloops using Advanced Game Settings (or SCIM). :)

[pastel carbon]

If you're making a recipe exclusively for postgame, then that recipe should be considered in the context of postgame

[night phoenix]

if you wanted to give yourself a challenge you could try not using them at all i think

[white dawn]

Everyone who played the game during Early Access has had a lot of experience building without sloops. :)

[pastel carbon]

It still doesn't change the fact that infinite sloops is a big change from finite and fairly limited sloops

[white dawn]

Spheres aren't craftable either; IMO it makes sense that these weird alien artifacts aren't things that we're capable of making ourselves

[night phoenix]

mb make the artificial sloops not as effective to balance it

[white dawn]

Anyway, you can certainly request this feature at https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/

In the end, all of our own bloviating about it is a bit silly since it's what CSS wants to do that matters. The Questions site is where you can attempt to sway their minds on it. :)

(That or there's probably a mod which lets you construct them)

[night phoenix]

just cause i think it would be a nice feature doesnt mean it isnt horribly overpowered and will never be added 🙂

[white dawn]

CSS have changed their minds about stuff before, etc. :)

[night phoenix]

i personally would love to be able to use sloops without having to worry ab exploring to get any more

[pastel carbon]

Infinite sloops is something I think is less likely they will change their minds on

[junior laurel]

If you can fabricate sloops within thr confines of the lore.. sure... issue is they're not going to be easy a day may or may not rip a hole in the fabric of reality. Best of luck :)

[pastel carbon]

If you're in the postgame, you can get all the sloops in the world fairly easily

And from there it's all about sloop allocation

[white dawn]

(And if you enable AGS you can get infinite sloops whenever you want)

[night phoenix]

sadly all the sloops in the world isnt as many as you would like

[pastel carbon]

Well yeah, that's part of the sloop gameplay

You need to choose which recipes you think would benefit most from slooping

[night phoenix]

this probably just comes down to me not liking the sloop gameplay ngl

[white dawn]

Good thing sloops are completely optional, then!

[junior laurel]

The only other way you could gather them is make a long distance harvester drone that picks up artifacts from other the planet we can't get to.. but eeecccchhh meeehhhh naahah

[night phoenix]

this might just be a thing on this planet

[junior laurel]

It is certainly more realistic then making them. We do not have the tech to make them.
But the issue is they might... be different. At the start ADA says something like she has tuned into the local frequency of these artifacts for the object scanner.
Local as in our sector or local as in planet?

[night phoenix]

i dont think thats a somersloop voiceline

i have it open rn and she doesnt say anything about a local frequency

[junior laurel]

Or sphere, there's a line somewhere that says some shit about it

[night phoenix]

yeah the mercer spheres have a unique frequency

thats the correct one

[frozen cloud]

"Initially developed in efforts to create a human-made Somersloop, the Alien Power Matrix cannot sustain the extra-dimensional energy connection on its own"
we were so close
F in the chat

[night phoenix]

RIP

i might have to use scim 😭

[night phoenix]

FISCIT did not cook with this one im not gonna lie

[junior laurel]

Mhm

We are close.
But not close enough.
We do not have the reseach

[night phoenix]

it doesnt perform the function of a sloop so i wouldnt say it is a artificial sloop

[frozen cloud]

imagine
feed alien power matrix to an assembler and you get 3x the items instead of 2x

[junior laurel]

It's a prototype. It does what sloops do.
Create something out of power.
Just because it create power out of power

[night phoenix]

sloops burn power for more product while the matrixes make power while giving equal product

[mortal ginkgo]

We can highly assume something went REALLY wrong for the attempts to be stopped.

Earth has a lot of problems with Ficsit

[frozen cloud]

reminds me of
"Used as fuel for Nuclear Power Plants.
The power source that put FICSIT on the map. Literally. The crater is still there."

[night phoenix]

tbf, somersloops are radioactive

[mortal ginkgo]

Yep. Ficsit really did go to other planets and found my ex. They named her "SAM" for some reason but I am not against it.

[junior laurel]

They are not used for one thing. The prototype does one of the two things we use them for.

[mortal ginkgo]

I think we are humbled enough with infinite resources as it is. Having SOME stuff finite can get us from our safe zone and plan accordingly.

Game hardly needs them anyway.

(One can also get RIDICULOUS amount of biofuel by using few sloops)

[frozen cloud]

being able to put sloops into every building would just be broken AF

[latent prawn]

yeah, but why would you need that?

[night phoenix]

a prototype is still not a artificial sloop

[junior laurel]

I never said it was tho a prototype artifical sloop is not good enough for FICSIT.

It however will have to do in the mean time.

[mortal ginkgo]

Good Fuel for your jumppack and for trucks etc, does not use any other resources than animals, etc

[night phoenix]

gonna have to pull out the save editor for this one

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean surely we gonna get Satisfactory 2. Like. Cmon. We need more planets.

I am also tiny bit of sad that we lack snow biome. I like snow. 😔

[frozen cloud]

my man invented bio packaging to replace plastic?
i guess someone cares about recycling and the environment on massage2AB

[latent prawn]

i'd like other continents and shipping boats

[livid heath]

guys how do i get rid of radiation in an area?

[junior laurel]

Your save
Just.. simply

Đꝋ ꞥꝋⱦ łꝋꝋꝑ ⱦħē łꝋꝋꝑ-ꝋɍꞡⱥꞥ

[livid heath]

i accidentally let off a nuke nobelisk....

[junior laurel]

Wait

[latent prawn]

just wait, the radiation disappears

[livid heath]

ohh bet

[mortal ginkgo]

Yes pls. I mean, one animal gives 100 biomass, double that with sloop. Make hard bio with sloop and then turn it into biofuel with sloop.

You will be literally drowning in it.

[junior laurel]

Bio burner only run... have fun

[latent prawn]

i mean, i do so for jetpack fuel, yeah, but running vehicles on it may last ~100 hrs

[mortal ginkgo]

Efficient Planet Life = Happy ADA

[mortal ginkgo]

are you, brotherman, telling me that you are not gonna ever kill afew animals along the way of 100hrs?

also 100 hrs is long yep

[latent prawn]

what was kinda stupid-good, before 1.0 was running vehicles on color cartridges. you'd have enough fuel from them to get aluminum unlocked for batteries, lol

[junior laurel]

Doing a couple laps of the map will get you a damn lot

[mortal ginkgo]

lols, I am glad color cartridges were gone

[frozen cloud]

have you guys seen the swamptopia run on youtube?
where a guy finished the game in the swamp only and was forced to get coal and oil from animals only via biocoal and coupons from animal dna?
shits wild

[latent prawn]

i'm not, they were great fuel

[mortal ginkgo]

Just make the factory beside a place where there are animals. You dont even need to travel then. :3

[junior laurel]

But when will I get my sloops and spheres and drives and stuff and things?

[mortal ginkgo]

He would do well in From Software titles.

[junior laurel]

Would like to see how FICSIT would artificially create sloops.
For science. You monster

[frozen cloud]

maybe some of the former pioneers on the planet tried
thats why they are former

[junior laurel]

Casually needing to rip a hole through the 4th (spatial) dimension

[whole ermine]

can you sink plutonium pellets

[tall lantern]

no, fuel rods or bust

[whole ermine]

oh theyre not even bad to mmake

[mortal ginkgo]

Everyone asking important questions while I am pondering how the smol sink house works

[whole ermine]

smol sink house?

[mortal ginkgo]

AwesomeSink

[tall lantern]

that's neither small nor a house

[mortal ginkgo]

It is a house for me!

💢

Also isn't the building rather smol compared to other ones?

[ashen belfry]

It's big compared to the toilet.
But the toilet can flush almost everything

How does that work?

[mortal ginkgo]

Brother got bigger questions than I do!

[junior laurel]

Crunchy items go clink clonk :>

[mortal ginkgo]

Very well. You explained good. But I will be back. Harder and stronger! 🚪

[hidden sparrow]

Sinky crushy toilet flushy

[junior laurel]

Crunchy.. items.. go splish splash.... yes

Can't even prove me wrong bayyyyyybeeeee

[coarse geode]

is there any way to split a 600 node to 300 when i dont have a 600 belt yet?

[junior laurel]

Nope

Underclock the miner :]

[quick sky]

I just automated motors, encased industrial beams, and computers, so I'm close to finishing phase 3

Surprised with how few resource nodes I'm using too.

I'm gonna automate AI limiters and also hook every part up to a dimensional depot while I'm waiting for my parts to stock up and then I'll sloop the assembly parts

[dense violet]

well the game doesn't intend you to use all the resources on the map

not even most

it's a lavish spread meant to give you options 🙂

[quick sky]

When I'm done with all phases I'm going to use the converter to change all resources that I don't need for power to iron, make all the iron into screws, and fill at least 50000 container stacks with them

It's what ficsit would want me to do

[dense violet]

don't even need to go that far. steel screws will get you there very quickly.

someone did 1,000,000 screws pm and it wasn't even that big

[quick sky]

Then I need to scale up my ambitions

[dense violet]

100,000,000 pm

[quick sky]

My destiny

"what is my purpose"

"Make screws"

"Yes, lord"

[hidden sparrow]

10 60 belts

[dense violet]

if you don't have a belt that can move 600, you can't mine 600 from a node

[rich tusk]

Got a question about trains with two locomotives facing in opposite directions. Does this double the amount of freight cars the train can pull upwards? Or is it just for dead-end stations

[dense violet]

the amount of cars per engine is dependent on how steep you go, but no I don't believe it counts as 2 engines pulling

[night storm]

Any recommendeations on what location to make a new save on? Only did the grassland sofar

[latent prawn]

all starting areas are good in different ways. really it is a matter of what initial building problems you wish to contend with

[dense violet]

they're all very similar honestly
except the northern forests, forces you to build tall but has more nodes closer

[hidden sparrow]

Grassland best biome

Never leave it ngl

[lusty imp]

it has no resources tho

[latent prawn]

has a butt ton of resources

plus blue crater right next door which may arguably be the best biome in the game

[atomic notch]

Grasslands ends up becoming a steel factory for me

[quick sky]

I hate green, I wish this game would add pollution so I could kill all spitters and hatchers with microplastics

[dense violet]

it's got heaps? just with room to build

[quick sky]

There's an awesome spot in the northeastern desert with coal, iron, copper and limestone close by so you can make most phase 2 parts right there

[latent prawn]

what i don't care for with grass fields is that the biome is situated at such a low altitude that running trains later is always an uphill climb

[quick sky]

Just zoop 2m ramps up the hills

And build the train over

[latent prawn]

when resources are clumped very close together, space becomes a premium

[quick sky]

Just build foundations off a cliff

[latent prawn]

i'm not arguing one biome vs another, i'm just saying that each has different +'s and -'s

if you think any of them are superior to the others, you haven't built enough yet

[quick sky]

I'm in love with the look of the dune desert but I'm not so much in love with everything there trying to kill me

[junior laurel]

I tend to start in the grasslands and migrate to the dunes.
The grass has some nostalgia in it for me

[cyan garnet]

Northern forest start is great, but yeah you have to be prepared to build vertical early on

[clever pier]

i like the eastern desert... its really not hard, theres some great spots with iron coal and water all close

eastern.... not west

plus caterium and quartz and sulfur

[cyan garnet]

The waterfall under the crater lakes is where I built my pasta/singularity factory

[quick sky]

I think later in the game I will just make a huge train distribution system hooked up to drones and just build wherever I feel like

[dense violet]

a lot of people have ideas like this. It's actually massively more work than just immediatelly processing thigns or directly moving items to where they need

[latent prawn]

i'll make a point, and i hope it will be well-recieved. There's enough resources in any of the starting biomes if you extend your factory into the surrounding-outside-of-starting biomes that neighbor it. That should be more than ample resource-wise to complete the game. If your goals are to build bigger than what is required, there's 3 starting biomes on the north side of the map and one on the south side. If your goals are to build big, you may consider starting in one of the north side biomes to simplify early game logistics to expand into another starting biome

[quick sky]

Yeah I want to do it because it's different and interesting not necessarily because it's easy

[junior laurel]

"Just use it all" -ADA

[cyan garnet]

“That’s not very cash money of you” - ADA, probably

[dense violet]

I highly recommend getting through the whole game first, doing at least one very large project for experience, and getting very comfortable planning and using the various logistics method before trying it out

[latent prawn]

yeah, i'll sort of agree with Natro. trains are awesome and powerful in the game, but if you don't target where you build your rails to only serve your immediate needs, you'll be building and building train lines w/o much else for 100 hrs

[empty spoke]

guys need some advice, i planned to play my game as in, there is a main base, where all trains bypass to load/unload, and they go out to the whole map where all other factories are that are crafting items on mass like 10k screws/min factory for example, my question now is, what would be items i could craft in the main base directly then, that i maybe don't need on mass?

[latent prawn]

screws 😄

[empty spoke]

cause having a empty main base also sounds boring

[dense violet]

it doesn't soiund like a 'main base' at all if you have all these hubs around.

sounds like a transfer station

also - don't move screws

[quick sky]

Yeah that's good advice, I've already learned that most things I build are temporary and will be replaced when I learn about better techniques, whether it's about function or making it look less like randomly generated garbage

[latent prawn]

make beams, not screws

[dense violet]

get good with it though. To the point where you don't have to think too much about the building and planning.
Cause, sure it's a cool idea, but it's a hell of a project

[empty spoke]

wdym by that

[proper hound]

yes, direction doesn't matter. But, if this is a one-way train on dual rail network, you may want to have the last one facing direction of the ride, otherwise the train may spontaneously try to turn around and drive wrong way.

[dense violet]

steel beams -> screws

[empty spoke]

well, how am i supposed to make it feel like a main base then

[leaden turret]

flashback to when I had 10x mk3 belts going from the screw floor to the HMF floor

whereas now I don't have screw floors, they get produced on-site

[leaden turret]

• hub
• space elevator
• hypertube interchange

[empty spoke]

okay then im good

[dense violet]

it would be a whole different design I guess?

I'd honestly make a plan of what you want to make first. Then figure out the layout and hubs

[empty spoke]

still, what productions could i do in my main base so it doesnt seem empty?

[quick sky]

I could also just do a smaller version of it. Like make a small train go in a circle picking up coal, iron and copper, bringing it to a basic processing plant and storing it and uploading it as a sort of little resupply station

[atomic notch]

Found a pretty good screw solution to bolted frames

[dense violet]

you could, but it's easier to make multiple trains.
Otherwise you'll have insanely long train stations all along the way

[leaden turret]

decorate it https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=furniture

[quick sky]

A circular train track with 2 locomotives and 6 cars could afford 2 cars each for coal, iron and copper, no? Not that I don't like multiple trains but the train stations are just so huge and difficult to find space for

[dense violet]

you won't be able to pick up stuff from many nodes that way.
for example, any particular train going between point A to point B? likely won't be able to move more than 1 belt per car

making it stop multiple stations, extending the return trip, probably means it'll be less than 1 belt per car

[quick sky]

Huh, well maybe I can use block signals to minimize space then

[dense violet]

block signals isn't the issue. It's the time it takes to load and the belts pausing 27 seconds every time a train docks

[quick sky]

But then that also decreases throughout

Maybe drones are a lazier solution if I can tolerate the power cost

[dense violet]

I mean trains are great. Especially because if you create a main line you can just hook up a bunch of branches to it

but if you're moving raw ore, generally that's a full belt per node, you'll need to dedicate a full car at least. Especially if you're doing 1200pm with mk6 belts. Prob need 2 cars for that

[quick sky]

I should consult the graphs

[dense violet]

I mean it's not a huge issue having a large basement floor at the central location that's a bunch of stations

[bleak crypt]

@lavish axle your 50,000MW turbofuel powerplant def. needs an award and we need more screens

[hollow roost]

#screenshots message looks like a Dali painting

[wanton stag]

whats the time to fill formula for truck stations?

[dense violet]

!wikisearch truck

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=truck

[dense violet]

stack pm transfer is prob on wiki

[lavish axle]

Glad you like it but It's not done yet sill gotta make rocketfuel for even more power.

[wanton stag]

i dont need that, i need the formula for time to fill the truck station

[atomic notch]

Stopwatch?

[dense violet]

? depends on your belt speed and stack size

figure out how much fits in a station based on stack size, then divide by your 2 input belts. (assuming 2 max filled belts, change depending on input pm otherise)

[wanton stag]

well im exporting coal, :3

also is there a way to change the color of the patterns?

[dense violet]

ok, figure out how many slots there are, multiple by ... I think 100? per coal stack

which patterns?

[wanton stag]

like the road patterns and suck that go on foundations

[dense violet]

you change the colour of the foundations I believe

for exmaple I painted these blue/white https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1289000710410866700/1289019748344008755/Wire_curve.png?ex=6818adf0&is=68175c70&hm=6ec33021f60e531cb80642e288c69c6c5c660d8f55b37175e3cb6e97906990fa&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1707&height=742

[unkempt blade]

ooh so shiny!

I like the lights

[supple drift]

Whenever you're done with a factory, do you ever just sit and listen to the sound of it working?

Because wow it sounds amazing

[atomic notch]

Yeah it does sound nice

Coal gens are my favorite sound

[cyan garnet]

particle accelerator is defo my favorite of all the machine sounds

[atomic notch]

Geothermals sound cool too

[supple drift]

Like I just built an entire power shard factory for... Honestly just the look of it, I just wanted something simple to get the aurora effect from the quantum encoder at the center of my factory, but now that's it's done...
The sounds of the foundries, the accelerators, the encoder and the converters all working in unison is amazing

[atomic notch]

I made one of those in creative when 1.0 first came out bc i was curious about complexity and it wasnt that bad tbh

[clever pier]

on the other hand the existence of all the train simulators show that some people will happily build trains for 100 hours jst cause they look building trains

[bleak crypt]

How much power is your goal?

[supple drift]

Oh yeah, it's insanely easy for how complex it actually looks

[clever pier]

building a functional system with signals and complex routing is fun

[mortal ginkgo]

Trains are absolute units of awesomeness.

[atomic notch]

Although ig when you get that far in the game everything gets easy

[mortal ginkgo]

Longer the more awesome

[clever pier]

I ust wish the trains went at about 160 km, thats a more realistic speed for something like these

[supple drift]

Also, the phase in the quantum encoder animation where it goes all PRETTY DISCO LIGHTS! Is my favorite part

[latent prawn]

oh, yeah, i mean, if that's your thing, totally, i get it. Good example of such is what @potent berry likes doing

[atomic notch]

It used like 40k mw tho

[supple drift]

Well, again this factory part is just for the looks so at peak it uses 28.4 watts lol

It's SUUUPER underclocked

If I need it, I'm sure I can clock it back up to speed though

[atomic notch]

Yeah on creative unlimited access to sloops went a lik crazy

[latent prawn]

for me personally, i want a rail network that does a bunch of neat stuff for my factory and looks ok-ish, but like the factory comes first™️

[atomic notch]

Controversial idea, dont make a train network

[supple drift]

Takes 5 minutes to make a singular power shard

[fallen orbit]

Uploaded 1k packaged bioFuel for jetpack should last a bit

[supple drift]

Even more controversial idea: only trains, no belt highways, no drones, no trucks.

And even worse. Only drones.

[atomic notch]

Wel i still use trains i just dont mix them

[fallen orbit]

Even tho I have hoverpack but for travelling jetpack still stays good

[atomic notch]

1 train per track

Do the ole <——> train

[fallen orbit]

You can have more than 1 train on a track? (I mean not crashing trains)

Is this something related to train signals? Am at p4 didn't even bother to unlock them

[supple drift]

Oh, fun fact, trains can't collide with themselves, so you can just make some unholy loop train

[atomic notch]

Yeah signals

[supple drift]

No start or end

[rancid turret]

choo choo motherfucker

[supple drift]

I still use <--> trains smh
But I make them longer so most of the time it's <<---<---<>--->--->>

I know you don't need that many, it just looks good and makes more sense, physics-wise

[clever pier]

plus I have blueprints for rail towers of different heights and its super quick to place them then snap

[hollow hazel]

whats the best power output you have gotten

[atomic notch]

a lot

[quick sky]

is there a lore reason why ADA uses a pioneer to exploit planets and doesn't just do it herself with robots?

[rancid turret]

block signals mean only one train can be within one block

multiple blocks, multiple trains

[clever pier]

pioneers are chaper and more dispoable than robots 😉

[supple drift]

Uhhh gross power generation no clue,
But I mean I am currently running an entire factory off of nothing but alien power augmenters, so that's cool.

[latent prawn]

early in my playthrough, i started building out my rail as an elevated thing where the rails floated btw bp'ed supports and really wasn't happy with the look

[atomic notch]

||we are the robots||

[hollow hazel]

wow

[fallen orbit]

What is the key component needed the most in p4?

[atomic notch]

Iron?

[fallen orbit]

New

[quick sky]

canon or headcanon?

[cyan garnet]

aluminum

[clever pier]

i mean we don't have any indication we are human we never see under the helmet

[atomic notch]

Not sure

[fallen orbit]

I have 240/m of ingots currently producing would that be enough or more?

[clever pier]

we could well be something like replicants from bladerunner

[mortal ginkgo]

We are obviously some kind of hybrid. We dont need sleep and food etc.

[quick sky]

I think we are at least biological because we eat and can be poisoned

[supple drift]

Sooooooo much more

[cyan garnet]

just like every other time this question gets asked, the answer is "how much do you need now?" if you need more later, build more later. don't try to future proof

[leaden ether]

We are meat robots, cheap and versitle.

[quick sky]

it's unclear what can be attributed to intentional design and what is just video game logic

[fallen orbit]

Also guys what else do we unlock on p4 completion
Nuclear power is already at completion p3

[cyan garnet]

240/m is fine to start with

[atomic notch]

Biological or not dude just programmable components

[fallen orbit]

Yea your right for now 240 is more than enough

[mortal ginkgo]

We are an anime girl tho'. It is 100% confirmed. I checked. Yes. Trust me. ❤️

[quick sky]

I believe you

[clever pier]

shrug, I much prefer than look than concrete under the tracks...

[cyan garnet]

do you want to be spoiled on what is in phase 5?

[supple drift]

Guys I asked ada for payment and a peanut came out of the coffee machine 3:

[fallen orbit]

I was already spoiled at p4

[quick sky]

They're really paying us peanuts!! laugh track

[hollow hazel]

the question i sare you allergic to peanuts

cuz then they were trying to make sure no witnesses

[atomic notch]

Water too prolly.

[supple drift]

No, what, do you think ada would try and kill m- yeah no I've been too inefficient.

[fallen orbit]

Hope there's enough water in the map

[supple drift]

Hey why is the number one ingredient in our FICSIT brand coffee lead???

[lavish axle]

Eventually it will make around 150.000 MW

enough for phase 4

[fallen orbit]

Or 150gw

[supple drift]

Pure bonafide lead, coffee grounds (Earth native), trace amount of uranium

[cyan garnet]

womp womp

[pastel carbon]

If you want spoilers, go to the satisfactory wiki and look at the phase 5 milestones

[quick sky]

*nervously stares at crashed drop pods

[supple drift]

Well the data in them is how to be more efficient so what if it's just previous employees trying to save us from ADA's wrath

[atomic notch]

Theres a lot. Problem is bringing it where you need it so plan around fluid transport when you build in p4

[fallen orbit]

Aluminium fr takes so many inputs
Coal,copper,silica,bauxite,water
Had to get like 30 copper /min with a train like 2,500m

Quartz was surprisingly really close to the bauxite

[cyan garnet]

there are a number of alts that can change what you need. namely removing silica/quartz (for lower yield), or replacing coal with pet coke (oil). or introducing sulfur for instant scrap

[quick sky]

I feel nothing but love and efficiency.

[fallen orbit]

So with all those alts you can either produce it near sulphur or oil?

[cyan garnet]

pure aluminum ingot removes the need for silica (uses smelter instead of foundry) but has lower yield per scrap
electrode scrap replaces coal with pet coke and has a higher yield
instant scrap uses sulfur (acid) and is made in a blender instead of refineries

[fallen orbit]

Hm thanks
Looking at this i think as I already have copper being transported I can just increase copper production and just increase on my existing factory

[lean goblet]

Morning

[supple drift]

Oh and since I mentioned the ingredients of our coffee, can I mention that our "Fluoride toothpaste" contains no fluoride?

It's ingredients are listed as "death, pain, suffering, hydroxyapatite"

[rancid turret]

instant scrap still needs coal

[lean goblet]

I have a train issue and would love to chat about it. But I am not sure I should just pop in to this community when I need something.

[fallen orbit]

I mean I always try to figure out the issue for a bit but if I can't i just come here

[lean goblet]

yeah.... thanks

[supple drift]

Oh and the book in the hub about won ton burrito meals says lead should be a main ingredient if you, quote, "aren't efficient enough"

[quick sky]

I'm allergic to hydroxyapatite :/

[supple drift]

Well then good luck, because it's all FICSIT gives us.

[lean goblet]

you not paste pictures here?

[quick sky]

It's ok, I'll just gargle some of the approximately eleventy bajillion screws I have, hopefully that'll clean my teeth

[supple drift]

The water in the hub has so much fluoride it might as well be toothpaste, though.

OKAY THIS ISNT A JOKE IF YOU HAVE A MERCER SPHERE TO SPARE THROW IT IN THE TOILET AND FLUSH IT

It makes the alien voice say somethkng

[quick sky]

fun fact: most of the beneficial effect of brushing your teeth comes from the brush physically displacing debris, not from the toothpaste! This is why ancient populations could have relatively clean teeth, by just using wood branches or tough fibers to brush their teeth

[quick sky]

Are there enough spheres in the game to do that, and complete the MAM research tree, and make one dimensional depot for every part in the game?

[empty spoke]

is there like a calculator or somth that can tell me how much i need of a ressource to finish the game? im planning to build a massive hmf factory, how much should it produce so i can provide for everything?

[supple drift]

Idk

I'll be honest, it's nothing important, its just intresting

[mortal ginkgo]

you dont need all items to be depoted, not all stuff are using in building so

[night phoenix]

tbh since i play on 1.0 i use the cart glitch to have enough spheres for all my depot needs

[mortal ginkgo]

Nothing limited is safe from you huh :3

[night phoenix]

im sorry 😭

[near reef]

Hello, my base is in the grassy medows, but I am using all the resources there. where should I move to for an abundunce of resources, water and oil?

do you have any suggestions/favorites?

[mortal ginkgo]

Its a single player game, you can even produce my mom in limitless amounts for all I care 😄

[quick sky]

So how many depots can I build if I finish all research?

[night phoenix]

xdd i got like 20 depots now

[mortal ginkgo]

dont ask the person who didn't play the game yet 😄

[night phoenix]

usually i make separate factories at the oil/copper/water and then transport the products to my base

[near reef]

I want to make a mega factory

thanks for the suggestion though

[night phoenix]

might wanna use walls, it will lag a lot less if all the machines arent rendered

[near reef]

fr? alr I will keep that in mind

[night phoenix]

personally i havent had any lag issues but apparently people do have lag issues with super large factories

and walls help with that

[near reef]

is dune dessert good for mega factory, or rocky desert?

[sturdy mural]

anyone else ever gets mad that a water pipe is not working, rebuilding the whole thing, flushing it, but nothing works, yet the extractor is full

just to realize it was unpowered

[night phoenix]

dune desert has a lot of space but i dont think thers much resources besides iron and copper

some coal also

[quick sky]

You haven't?

Anyway, all MAM research requires about 100 spheres, there are about 300 spheres in total. So there are enough spheres to make one depot for each item and still flush a very significant percentage of them down the toilet

[dreamy surge]

there is coal nearby in the desert

[atomic notch]

I joined a world where they walled everything with glass and used conveyors for everything. Crashed my game like 3 time lol

[mortal ginkgo]

Still gotta do irl work stuff 😄

And from what I heard there are plently of spheres, So it checks out.

[near reef]

so rocky desert?

[atomic notch]

It was also in 1.1

[empty spoke]

how much heavy modular frames do i need to never build another factory for them?

[atomic notch]

Just make the factory expandable

[quick sky]

Sometimes the fluids in this game go on strike. It tends to also happen at random for pipes that are set up perfectly

[atomic notch]

Daily pipe appreciation post

[mortal ginkgo]

No.

Pipes are evil.

[quick sky]

How many foundations do I need to cover the entirety of the map? I am personally offended by the existence of nature

[atomic notch]

A lot

[mortal ginkgo]

yes

[atomic notch]

Easy math if you find the world size

Infinite zoop mod would help too

[frozen cloud]

996.5 x 850 foundations.

[atomic notch]

I was right, a lot

About 5.5mil concrete

[ashen belfry]

But I think that's including the areas where you die to the border

And the boarder isn't a rectangle

[winged bronze]

Infinite Zoop and Infinite Nudge are my 2 favorite mods! ❤️

[quick sky]

I must begin work at once

[atomic notch]

Mods are just crutch imo

[night phoenix]

this does indeed go with FICSIT's motto

[ashen belfry]

Guess it's time to build a big a$$ concrete and iron plates production and multiple DD uploader

[lean goblet]

I am assuming that theya have disabled pictures?

I have 4 train lines that run a long side a serries of pairs of train stations.
There are complicated intersections that take the trains from the 4 lines to and from the 4 lines.
sometimes it runs for hours and times there are 2 crashes in 20 minutes.

I have path signals leading in and blockers at the exits

Is therw a way I can load someone eles game that has some large complex trains and see how they did it?

[leaden ether]

Infinite Nudge is my only installed mod for the vertical nudge. Infinite zoop scares me 😄 I just know I'm going to miss-click and zoop out 250 foundations across the map (Actually don't know if that is possible, just sounds like it from the name)

[lean goblet]

or load it into the interactive map

[cyan garnet]

there's enough spheres for 200 uploaders after all MAM research completed

[cyan garnet]

pictures are only disabled in this channel. if you need help with trains, my suggestion would be to start a thread in #1038092680493801533 - you can include pictures there

[sturdy mural]

man this game's so hard

[atomic notch]

Whatcha strugglin with

[sturdy mural]

like
the game itself is easy
finding resources close enough is a struggle

[atomic notch]

Ah

[cyan garnet]

sorting out long-distance logistics is one of the core gameplay challenges

and imo one of the most rewarding when you crack it

[leaden ether]

The last half of phase 4 and I'm assuming phase 5 are giving me engineering PTSD.

[sturdy mural]

i'm maxxing out my copper kinda with circuit assemblers
and now i look and there ||ACU|| needs even more

[cyan garnet]

I'll be honest, I didn't really use trains in my first playthrough, took me a long time for them to really click for me. now I love em

[sturdy mural]

makes me want to

just cheese it
no full automation

also i wish you could drop stuff on belts

[atomic notch]

You can with a merger and storage crate

[sturdy mural]

yeah but

no direct dropping
like i have a stack of protein
and i have to build that just for this

[cyan garnet]

I wish you could send stuff straight into the awesome sink from your inventory

[sturdy mural]

same

[atomic notch]

I wish numbers were easier

[sturdy mural]

i wish there wasn't playing with 166.66666%

WOAH
222k points/min

[fallen orbit]

Is rocket fuel really good on jetpack I have seen on wiki it's fly speed is crazy but
Is it worth it for me to unlock rocket fuel and automate a little bit of it

[atomic notch]

1/3s are easy

[lean goblet]

Thanks

[sturdy mural]

i'd personally choose smth with more fly time

[cyan garnet]

rocket fuel has good lift but fast burn time

[night phoenix]

rn using packaged fuel but idk if thats the best

[fallen orbit]

I have hoverpack tbh don't really need that much fly time on jetpack now mainly want speed

[cyan garnet]

imho liquid biofuel is the best jetpack fuel until you can get ionized

[atomic notch]

Liquid biofuel is my go to. Dont need a whole factory for it

[cyan garnet]

rocket fuel is good to have on hand when you need to do a quick climb but LBF has much longer burn time and is good for long-distance traversal

[sturdy mural]

(tip- you can conserve speed from slide jumps when flying with jetpack)

[fallen orbit]

I do have like 2k packaged liquid biofuel but i gues I won't go a long way just to get rocket fuel for jetpack

[cyan garnet]

and yeah by the time you unlock the jetpack, you probably have tons of biofuel sitting around so it's pretty trivial to convert and package into LBF and send to a depot uploader

[cyan garnet]

rocket fuel is good for power, and for vehicles (again, just my opinion)

[fallen orbit]

Yea I got quite a bit of it I will see how hard it is to get some packaged rocket fuel as I haven't gone much in sulphur tree

[sudden anvil]

Is there any vanilla way to disable out of bounds damage? God mode doesn't seem to work.

[fallen orbit]

But it could be a nice sidequest

[fallen orbit]

Yea I plan on setting up a rocket fuel plant later down in p4

[cyan garnet]

build in some plans to send some of it to a packager instead of generators and you're good to go

my RF plant is making 450/min, 150 is packaged and 300 is burned in generators

[sturdy mural]

oh boy i have a full big double container of biofuel
(slop goes brr)

[atomic notch]

Prolly not gonna do rocket fuel on my current save

[cyan garnet]

i'm now converting all that packaged RF into ionized just cuz I can, not cuz I needed to

[fallen orbit]

Sulphur coal fuel and what else for rocket ?

[cyan garnet]

nitrogen

[quick sky]

Wth I flushed a sphere down the toilet and nothing happened

[fallen orbit]

Damn gonna be a headache to bring all 4 to one place lol

[quick sky]

I have been bamboozled

[fallen orbit]

Nitrogen with a train , coal with a train and sulphur with a train aswell 💀

[atomic notch]

Luckily all 4 are in one place

[fallen orbit]

They are?

[atomic notch]

Ye

[fallen orbit]

What spot

[quick sky]

I can't believe you lied to me

[atomic notch]

South east

[quick sky]

I will never trust anyone again!!!

[cyan garnet]

blue crater is the best spot for it as they are all relatively close

[fallen orbit]

Oh bet already explored alot of it and power is there aswell

Also how long do you have to go in sulphur tree for rocket fuel? Can someone send the tree screenshot

@cyan garnet what are those machines which are sending beams up in air in your screenshot

[cyan garnet]

quantum encoders, tier 9 tech

used for making synthetic power shards

[fallen orbit]

Oo

[cyan garnet]

so phase 5 spoilers I guess

[fallen orbit]

Am gonna spend alot of time on p4 not that I will have to but won't rush it

[cyan garnet]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/MAM#Sulfur

phase 4 is by far the longest phase in the game

[hollow vector]

what gpu would be considered good for maxxed out satisfactory with a large factory for pretty much every part?

[cyan garnet]

and the biggest difficulty/complexity jump

[fallen orbit]

What is the 3rd one which is locked in sulphur tree

[cyan garnet]

scroll down to see what each icon means. it's an unlock that doesn't grant any direct reward
Experimental Power Generation
25 × Sulfur
50 × Modular Frame
100 × Rotor

[fallen orbit]

Thanks for all the info
Plan all set for Tommorow
First of all unlocking blenders then unlocking rocket fuel then rocket fuel production

[atomic notch]

Gonna need well pressurisers too

[fallen orbit]

That is p4 aswell right?

[atomic notch]

Ye

For nitrogen

[fallen orbit]

Only unlocking rocket fuel for jetpack for now
Cuz tbh really don't need power rn I have 12gw to spare

[cyan garnet]

meanwhile I'm dumping multiple ISCs worth of packaged rocket fuel into the sink because I don't need it anymore

just finished switching over my main drone network from rocket fuel to ionized fuel

[sturdy mural]

guys do you get more power options after completing p3?

[cyan garnet]

yes, nuclear power

[dreamy surge]

nuclear is a pain, i did it but rocket fuel generators work best for me

[ashen belfry]

More like which CPU

[cyan garnet]

5090

[frozen cloud]

you dont need a good gpu if you spread factories out

[ashen belfry]

Played this game perfectly fine on my 4080 12GB set to 70ish W, lumen high and FHD

[frozen cloud]

bro im gaming on my 1070 and its fine

[ashen belfry]

It's a god damn laptop btw

[hollow vector]

bro im gaming on my iris xe intergrated graphics 80eus and its running FINE!

im just tryna use this game as a comparasion for my brothers high end pc*

[ashen belfry]

But probably not on 4k ultra. And that was the question.
So I would go with anything close to 4070 or better

[frozen cloud]

fine as in 40/min warp drives at 60fps using ~50% of all resources
on low settings though xD
probably shouldnt have build everything in 1 place

[hollow vector]

no lol

[sturdy mural]

guess what (read my name)

[hollow vector]

i get like 30- fps on average

[sturdy mural]

yay

man i made 50 circuits/min thinking its gonna be good
used up 40 for comps
i need 15 more for PAPs

[rancid turret]

it's spelt nucular

[sturdy mural]

im gonna spell it Good Powar

[keen crag]

are devs looking at these chats? #1230731356699496510 message

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @cyan garnet

[cyan garnet]

^^ post bugs, feature requests, etc at the qa site

[jaunty jewel]

i dont see why autorun would be needed, you never really go far enough for it to be justified imo

[keen crag]

lol , then you dont play the game. its just mental

1.3k ppl wanted it. i posted it on the forum. in 2025 it should be a mandatory thing. it prevents shoulder issues.

[atomic notch]

Im usually slide jumping anyway

Yall run?

[keen crag]

even slide jumping with autorun is way less restrain for pushing a button for ages. like E on a resources. they did automate that

[mortal ginkgo]

Millions wanted Death Knights in WoW wanted to be buffed. Devs listened and it took a year to nerf them back to where they supposed to be.

Just because many wants something, doesn't make it correct.

There are so many ways to go around other than walking in this game. I don't see the issue.

[echo vapor]

There is an autorun of sorts, right clicking with the zipline