satisfactory

[hidden sparrow]

Satisfactory

My world eats 28gb playing it

[nocturne nebula]

I am using 30gb of ram, lol

[fierce matrix]

nah man. intel + high end nvidia gpu is legit a space heater

[nocturne nebula]

but have 64 so never a worry

[terse venture]

i can recommend you my 57" monitor 😄 very nice but gaming is a small problem, the game all has bad resolutuion and settings for this screens but working and multitask better than everything .p

[nocturne nebula]

when I build, I overkill it! 😄

[wary blaze]

the only thing satisfactory does to my laptop is heat up the battery and reduce my battery life when i play plugged in

[viscid crest]

my cats are sleeping on my old pc like 90% of the sleep time cuz its so warm

[hidden sparrow]

Yeah i have 48 so idrc either

[naive pendant]

Monitor wise the big advances are OLED, higher refresh rate, higher resolution. All of those push towards higher cost, so keeping a 1080p monitor makes sense if saving money.

[nocturne nebula]

super cosy! lol

[fierce matrix]

i am never going back from oled

[nocturne nebula]

interesting number you chose there

[fierce matrix]

1440p 240hz oled is a gamechanger even if you dont do esports, the general smoothnes is desktop is so nice

[nocturne nebula]

I got scared away from OLED when somebody told me you can get issues of burnin

[hidden sparrow]

Thats called having 16gb for 2 years and then satisfactory wants more so i throw a 32gb kit in it

[viscid crest]

Btw because a few people are here talking about Pcs, what monitor type would you all recommend? Mabye below 500 bucks xd

[wary blaze]

me when im working out factory logistics and see something not take something in intervals of 15

[fierce matrix]

if you can Oled,

[terse venture]

have a look : 57" duhd ! 240 hz .p

2x4k ..

[nocturne nebula]

ah, lol

I tend to sell old and make sure my sticks are all the same, timings, etc, even from teh same manufacturing batch .,.. but thats maybe overkill, lol

[fierce matrix]

it is

[nocturne nebula]

lmao

[fierce matrix]

people tend to go crazy about mismatching sticks but it nearly always works, you just cant run xmp if they have different speeds/timings

which might cost you 1/2% in some games

[nocturne nebula]

yeah, I am from dev circles where every bit counts

[fierce matrix]

ddr5 is picky, specially above 2 sticks tbh

[terse venture]

satisfactory not use mopre than 16 gb ram !?

[nocturne nebula]

you need a much beefier PC to make Satisfactory than to play it

muuuuuuuuuch more

[fierce matrix]

would my game shititself if i run a 400hour update 3 safe

[zenith pecan]

My old save had a somewhat larger memory footprint than 16gb.

[gilded marsh]

Anyone got an idea on how I can transport uranium to a power plant without it damaging me whenever I go to the hub or smth?

[nocturne nebula]

suit!

[mossy moon]

drones

[gilded marsh]

I don't wanna wear an suit all the time

[terse venture]

you should build nuclear outside of mainbase ? 😄

[wary blaze]

its simplre just dont transport it through a hub

[nocturne nebula]

best tip yet, lol

[gilded marsh]

Too late, it was the only place near to every source

[wary blaze]

move the hub :okayge:

[mossy moon]

why not. it dosend block any invetory slots for other things

[fierce matrix]

does it consume filters when not irradiated?

[gilded marsh]

Aren't filters expensive asf?

[mossy moon]

no

[fierce matrix]

in my 700hours i never got to nuclear.. lol

[mossy moon]

no not really

[terse venture]

as long as you not must collect myzelium per food .. its ok

[mossy moon]

consumes when radiated

[wary blaze]

i actually dont get how ppl have so many hours but not experience everything

[mossy moon]

and max speed for consuption is 5 per minute only

[fierce matrix]

okay so, 100-200 afk? generously.

[wary blaze]

oh ok nvm then

[fierce matrix]

new safes, helping friends, new update and new safe ect

[wary blaze]

oh right i forget that the game was early access for like years

[fierce matrix]

joining randoms for a build here and there

[terse venture]

this game has much parts where you can get lost .p

[fierce matrix]

i got it in update 3

[wary blaze]

i got it in 2022 but only really got into it this month

[fierce matrix]

i dont think i ever fully finished aluminium tbh

[gilded marsh]

How fast can a drone transport items?

Like is there a .../m count?

[mossy moon]

the port will show

but in stacks per minute bcs throughput will change if an item stacks more in 1 slot

[terse venture]

2 minutes for land and start, aroung 200 km/h for distance = time

[fierce matrix]

i forgot there are drones, are they ridable yet

[terse venture]

fuel can make it some faster or not, normal square

[mossy moon]

nope

[fierce matrix]

hm, ill figure it out

[mossy moon]

its fine you cna just buy filters for now

[nocturne nebula]

i can't believe the BP designer is still bugged

[low relic]

is there a entity limit or sth like that?

[fierce matrix]

yes

[mossy moon]

it just got a big update with autoconnect

[fierce matrix]

but you wont hit it, probably,

[fierce matrix]

whats up with it?

[mossy moon]

unreal object limit but your pc will prob break in other ways before you reach that (for my pc idk if you have a supercomputer)

[low relic]

cuz ive read on some reddit post that there are those limits and im close to hitting them and my pc takes long to load the file and stuff but its still acceptable and when i joined i have no lag whatsoever but i havent even started the big project i was planning to build

[nocturne nebula]

yes I look forward to that

[low relic]

so im worried that i will eventually reach that limit and then have to deconstruct old factories

[nocturne nebula]

looking like it saved a BP and not doing so

[fierce matrix]

Any reason your not on experimental already?

[fierce matrix]

do you have a top end pc?

because your fps will crumble before you hit it

[mossy moon]

theres ways to increase it if you think thats what you need to do and not rethink ur choices abt your world save

[low relic]

nah i dont but my RAM is almost very full so im updating from 16GB to 32GB soon

[low relic]

yeah ive read about that too, but that would make my game unstable and stuff idk

[mossy moon]

yeah im no expert in this stuff so i feel the same

[low relic]

alright haha

[fierce matrix]

Hard to believe games push 16gb now lmao

[mossy moon]

same

[fierce matrix]

thank fuck ddr4 is dirt cheap

[low relic]

yeah idk i think i should setup my pc again and just delete all the shit i dont need

[fierce matrix]

it helps

i really need to clean my windows to, legit uses 10gb on desktop

im using 21gb rn, with satisfactory using 3.9 i dont even know whats using it lmao

[low relic]

yeeees

[misty rune]

Would adding more ram take any of the load off my CPU? I’m noticing as I get better at the game and make bigger and better factories my CPU temp is creeping up slowly.

[low relic]

thats literally me

[mossy moon]

mines already at boiling temps...

[low relic]

well i mean simple said: more factories means more buildings means ur cpu has to calculate more means it will be hot asf 🥵

[mossy moon]

honestly dont know how my pc still functions

[low relic]

if u get more and more ram eventually your cpu will be the bottleneck lol

but im no expert

[misty rune]

It’s only 68C at its highest but the case gets awful warm between that and my 3070ti

[fierce matrix]

its fine

68 is actually nothing

[misty rune]

Video card has been getting warmer too.

[fierce matrix]

what your feeling is the hot air leaving the pc, which is good

3070ti, i would not be concerned till you see 80-85c on core or 105 on hotspot consistently

[misty rune]

Highest it’s ever been. The glass on the case actually gets warm. Never had that happen before. And I clean it regularly.

[fierce matrix]

cpu depends on model, if its a newer ryzen i would not be concerned till its pegged at 85+

[fierce matrix]

pretty normal under heavy use

[misty rune]

It’s intel. Let me grab the exact one.

[fierce matrix]

oh, i wouldnt worry till 90c then

[ashen belfry]

Same. PC is regularly at the 95° C
Sometimes even at 98° C♨️

GPU is meanwhile chilling at 86° C

[low relic]

maybe also talk about ur case since case fans do important work of transporting hot air out and pulling cold air in
if those fans are shit then maybe idk

[fierce matrix]

yours is probably thermal throtteling

running slower to make sure it doesnt damage itself thanks to excessive heat

[fierce matrix]

my fans are abhorrent but they look good

[low relic]

what case do u have haha

[misty rune]

I5 12600K

[fierce matrix]

lian li unifans

im not sure if theres a channel i can post a pics

[ashen belfry]

Probably yeah.
But it's hard to stuff some HighEnd i9 into a notebook and then cool it nicely

[fierce matrix]

ah laptop, expected

[fierce matrix]

put a pic in #off-topic-media. performs ass compared to other fans but it looks good

[mossy moon]

lol same my gpu 99 celsius

and cpu 95

[fierce matrix]

laptop aswell?

[low relic]

yeah hella nice

[fierce matrix]

worth the extra 250 euro

[low relic]

for sure

[fierce matrix]

now just praying to tech jesus my gpu doesnt melt

[low relic]

which one do u have?

[fierce matrix]

4080s

[low relic]

damn

[fierce matrix]

not to prone to melting but not in the fully safe zone

[low relic]

i have amd radeon 6600xt

like 3060 or sth

[fierce matrix]

yeah

[viscid lagoon]

Anyone have the 1.1 post date yet? LEAKS PLS

[fierce matrix]

had a 6750xt before this

[low relic]

yeah it iwll come out tomorrow

😂

[fierce matrix]

it came out 21 days ago

[viscid lagoon]

Lookin for prod, not exp

[ashen belfry]

4080 12GB for me.
So more like 4070.
4060 if you don't want a jet in your room

[spark ruin]

no, adding more RAM doesnt effect CPU usage
2nd-ly, rising CPU temps are the fault of your CPU cooler, not from the game getting more demanding

[spark ruin]

ehh, not really, cuz win-dowes 11 already take 6GB at the desktop then you add chrome and games to that
it starts filling up pretty fast

[fierce matrix]

cooler, paste, airflow, mount.

[fierce matrix]

my 4080s is dead quiet

[fierce matrix]

binbows 11 is so fucking atrocious

[spark ruin]

tech jesus AKA : GN Steve

[fierce matrix]

yes

[spark ruin]

a donwgrade in everyway compared to 10

[fierce matrix]

nah nah

windows 11 file explorer is mint

tabs is a 10/10 feature

[spark ruin]

so. you mean the unlaunched 4080 12GB
(AKA : 4070 TI)

[spark ruin]

okay, it has that going for it

but otherwise is straight poopoo

[fierce matrix]

there are some features i like

clipboard history, Tabs in notepad/file explorer. and the tile snapping is S tier

all the artificial requirement locks can be bypassed with ease for now

[spark ruin]

the only sad thing is that FSR 4 is locked to win-dowes 11* 😭
so when/if i get a 9060 XT i cant roll back to win 10

[zenith pecan]

I'm not looking forward to the debloat hoops of 11, it's bad enough having microsoft installing crap without permission on 10.

[fierce matrix]

It’s really not that much effort

[fierce matrix]

May I dm you?

[spark ruin]

sure

[fierce matrix]

I have some words that maybe aren’t welcomed in this server

[ashen belfry]

Nahh. It's an official launched card, called the 4080. Specwise it's quite similar to the 4070ti

[nocturne nebula]

yikes, I setup a quartz mine in a cave ... now I cannot rememeber how I got into it, lol

[fierce matrix]

Sailing the 7 seas of windows

[zenith pecan]

Understood, no further needed 🙂

[ashen belfry]

So. Yeah. Probably they just decreased the power draw of the 4070 ti and slapped it into a laptop

[spark ruin]

wait, are you actually talking about the laptop 4080 ?
i got confused

[ashen belfry]

Every card with an overpowered cooling solution is quiet. Mine doesn't have it.
2 fans to cool both CPU and GPU
Combined powerdraw of roundabout 330W

[fierce matrix]

My 250watt rx6750xt was a Jett engine. Had to fan curve / undervolt it

[fierce matrix]

I send you a dm with some windows info

[spark ruin]

i saw it,
but i dont think that that version of windowes (cuz it sounds like a 10 spinoff) you talked about has FSR 4
so i still wouldnt be able to use it
though, maybe it would work with optiscaler + FSR 4 ?
IDK but thx for the info either way

[spark ruin]

though, it'd still be nice cuz less bloat is always nice
might help my 16GB RAM

[tropic nest]

hello, anyone wanna join me on my world? I play single save since 2020 and lot of stuff needs fixing/optimizing lol

[spark ruin]

#1201555265942724758

[fierce matrix]

Ltsc isn’t a spin off? It’s a different branch, like pro, enterprise etc

[zenith pecan]

Less bloat and unneeded crap is always welcome, to me the operating system has one job, let me interact with my computer and run stuff I want, it is not to sell me crap or junk itself up and get in the way.

[spark ruin]

sry, i meant branch
i just forgot the word i was looking for

[fierce matrix]

It being debloated is the main advantage of 2024, and 2021 having support till 2027 is nice for windows 10 lovers

[zenith pecan]

Ahh, I do plan on 11 ltsc in the future when finally pushed from 10, I won't say much further because well, other ppl, but hell, worth it for lightweight.

[spark ruin]

certainly not AI BS
i dont need AI in my OS ffs

[fierce matrix]

Ive ran it since it released to windows insiders. Its nice

[spark ruin]

i've also heard that there are some debloated ISO's out there

[fierce matrix]

There are. But real shit? From a security standpoint

Never ever ever use a unofficial iso. EVER

Prime way to get shit stolen

[tropic nest]

ty

[spark ruin]

yeah, i figured lol

[fierce matrix]

Even if it’s a trusted source. Or someone with a reputation

Microsoft is the only isos for windows you should touch

[ashen belfry]

Yes

[fierce matrix]

Do you play battlefield 4

[ashen belfry]

Yeah. Sometimes

That's random a$$ ngl

[fierce matrix]

There’s a server called Oleg

[spark ruin]

cuz i thought you were talking about the
4080 12GB (desktop) which was unlaunched and renamed to 4070 TI

[fierce matrix]

Nvidia tactics

[spark ruin]

5060 TI 8GB in 2025

AKA : restart you game every 30 minutes because you ran out of VRAM at 1080p

[ashen belfry]

There WAS a clan called OLEG. It ain't no more

[fierce matrix]

theres still some people with the clantag

[fierce matrix]

1080p it should be fine

[misty rune]

That’s likely but to be fair as well this is the hardest I’ve ever pushed my computer up until this point. It’s a prebuilt but it’s always done great for me.

[fierce matrix]

just dont use RT, the main advertisement of nvidia over amd

[spark ruin]

no it isnt
its terrible
i cant play ark ascended AT ALL just because my card has 8GB of VRAM
even on lowest settings i run out of VRAM

[fierce matrix]

ark is notoriously shit with its optimization

[spark ruin]

and in SF i cant use lumen for more than 30 minutes, cuz i just run out of VRAM

even though it runs fine otherwise at around 40fps

[fierce matrix]

lumen is software based RT is it not

[fierce matrix]

8gb 300 dorra please

[ashen belfry]

Yeah. But the clan itself doesn't exist anymore, no more servers, discord server dead. Most admins migrated to SiC.
I sometimes use it aswell, when I am not on a SiC server and not a SiC admin

[fierce matrix]

all my homies hate SIC

im banned from both

[ashen belfry]

F to you ngl

[fierce matrix]

i think im unbanned on sic but i havet touched bf4 in ages

[ashen belfry]

Yeah. We delete the ban lists every half a year

[fierce matrix]

for some reason im only using 7gb after 2 hours with it on

it will go up as theres more to render

[spark ruin]

yeah, but it makes the game look drasticly different
and i could run it perfectly fine if it not for my VRAM
and im getting 40fps on an RX 6600
imagine the 5060 TI 8GB in the same scenario probably like 70fps
just to crash a few minutes later

[fierce matrix]

how much is nvidia even charging for it

[spark ruin]

7.8GB from the get go for me

[fierce matrix]

well, how much do they claim to charge

[spark ruin]

8GB ? 380 i think ?

yeah its 380

[fierce matrix]

christ

so thats 400-500 here

[spark ruin]

well, in my country MSRP would be 480 cuz of VAT

[ashen belfry]

1080p Resolution? Or higher?

[fierce matrix]

cheapest one is 405 euro in the netherlands

[ashen belfry]

And vram management is a bit better on Nvidia btw.

[spark ruin]

1080p lumen set to high cuz medium is way to noisy to be usable
i use FSR AA BTW cuz it looks better than anything else i can use

[fierce matrix]

not really relevant

as its not gonna save 8gb in the upcoming years

[ashen belfry]

I mean yeah. That's true. Even the 12GB of mine aren't enough sometimes

[spark ruin]

cheapest (and only) here is 616€
though thats the 16GB one

[fierce matrix]

what country

[ashen belfry]

But I didn't see higher vram usage than 6-7GB in Satisfactory

[spark ruin]

hungary

[ashen belfry]

Somewhere in Europe lol

[fierce matrix]

i thought it would be cheaper there than the netherlands tbh

considering everything else is

[spark ruin]

27% VAT for TW

[fierce matrix]

i think its 21 here

[spark ruin]

also : VRAM usage not going above 8GB doesnt mean that UE 5 wont decide to choke you performance on an 8GB card

[fierce matrix]

why did they move to eu5

[frail sleet]

It's way faster and more powerful

[spark ruin]

cuz UE 5 can only use 87% IIRC of your VRAM

[spark ruin]

i dont care TBH
lumen just helps SO MUCH with making something that looks good

[fierce matrix]

yup

playing cyberpunk with pathtracing was eye opening

[spark ruin]

+ this game runs pretty fine all things considered

[spark ruin]

though, that could be from shadow draw distance being 20Meters

[spark ruin]

definetely the most optimized UE 5 game

[spark ruin]

though subnautica 2 might be more optimized on the GPU side if they didnt lie with the min spec and recomended spec

[sterile silo]

hey guys, i have a quick question, is there something akin to factorio's alt mode in satisfactory?

[spark ruin]

and thats allocation and not usage
usage is at around 5,8GB

[fierce matrix]

LOL

[spark ruin]

❓

[fierce matrix]

Why do they lie

[spark ruin]

GPU requirements are very tame IDK what you're on about

[spark ruin]

though CPU is dicey AF
7700 X for recomended spec ???
with a 2600 as minimum ??

[fierce matrix]

thats really high

it kinda shocked me to see my old 6750xt as the recommended card, games feel so comfortable asking for mid/high end cards and i hate it

[spark ruin]

its actually a 5600 XT as recomended

or a 2060 which i find weird

[viscid crest]

#screenshots message How do I get to this sommersloop? cant find the entrance

[fierce matrix]

dune desert kinda tough early

[spark ruin]

that might be in a hole in the ground where there are a lot of shpiders

[frozen ingot]

i'm still using my 1070

plays fine

[sage orbit]

My world wont load and i get the error invalid_results. What should i do? All my backups have the same problem

[fierce matrix]

What AA do you guys use?

[nocturne nebula]

likely get aq better r4esponse in here bud : https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1038092680493801533

[sterile silo]

by thsi i mean, can i easily see what a machine produces

[nocturne nebula]

your message will not get lost in there so easily 🙂

[fierce matrix]

putting a sign on a machine

[sterile silo]

ahh so manual labour

[nocturne nebula]

whats the max number of inventory rows we can unlock pls?

[jaunty jewel]

you can always make a blueprint

[nocturne nebula]

I have just short of 6 at the mo

[random wasp]

does sinking tickets give anything?

[nocturne nebula]

1 ticket for a surprise

[random wasp]

besides that

[sterile silo]

how can i do that?

kinda new to the game still learnin

[jaunty jewel]

with the blueprint designer

or, you could just group machines together

[spark ruin]

FSR.
very sharp and not to bad with shimmering either in this game

[fierce matrix]

fsr native or do you upscale aswell?

[jaunty jewel]

put wire constructors together, copper smelters together etc

you could also use the customizer to colour code machines but that might be a bit of a hassle

[spark ruin]

native or upscale
depends on my mood
at the AA mode i think its better than every other option
at balanced (75% res scale) i think its still better than TAA and TSR but its not much better than XeSS
then at performance (60%) i think XeSS starts looking better (TSR is worse even here)
just cuz of less ghosting and better fine detail reconstruction but it does run a lot slower
the games native TAA is between FSR B and P in this game

[fierce matrix]

dlss4 beats whatever version of fsr this game has baked in, but on native im not sure which one does AA better

[spark ruin]

well, i'd hope that DLSS TRN looks better than FSR 3.1

[fierce matrix]

steve should be doing the fsr4 vs dlss4 soon

shame its limited to rx9000

[spark ruin]

he has already done it
twice actually
one at 1440p and one at 4K

[fierce matrix]

they had such a gigachad approach making fsr available to carts nvidia didnt port dlss to

[fierce matrix]

youtube for some reason refuses to recommend him, so i have to manually look

[spark ruin]

well
DLSS needed AI/tensor cores
FSR 1-3.1 didnt so there was no reason for AMD to make it exclusive to anything

[fierce matrix]

as far as im aware he hasnt done a direct side by side comparison tho has it?

[fierce matrix]

is fsr4 artificially limited or did do they leverage hardware on the 9000 series?

[spark ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWTot0wwaEU&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H38a0vjQbJg&t

[fierce matrix]

i need my tech jesus side by side shots

its already known upscaling is better the higher the res, lazy titles lol

[spark ruin]

FSR 4 is a hybrid (CNN + transformer) AI model that requires FP8 accelaration
which RDNA 1-3 cant do
and only ADA (RTX 40) and ADA refresh (RTX 50) supports it on the NVIDIA side

[fierce matrix]

but amd locked it to amd hardware, cant say i blame them

[spark ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DbM0DUTnp4&t

GN vid

[fierce matrix]

i did watch this one

its impressive how much they caught up considering they started later

[stiff wolf]

isnt there a way to make all machines and stuff your color? i know you can but how do i do it?

[leaden ether]

On the builder menu there is a "Customizer" tab

[stiff wolf]

ok thanks

[leaden ether]

After customising a color you can right click it and assign it as the default for various categories of items. Don't use the swatch under "Custom" though as it seems to be broken. Otherwise you can click on a color then click on any item in world to change it instantly

[stiff wolf]

ok

[latent prawn]

right clicking on a swatch allows you to set it for building a specific class of buildings

[glossy venture]

Its crazy that satisfactory managed to make spider monsters that are scarier than 90% of horror games

[grizzled lotus]

my hot bar is gone and it's replaced with a new set that has a gesture. how do I change it back?

[glossy venture]

Try holding alt and using the scroll wheel on your mouse

[grizzled lotus]

oh this is cool! thanks

[mossy juniper]

does anybody want to play satisfactory with me

[steady dome]

#1201555265942724758

[mossy juniper]

im bored

[steady dome]

Cool story. For finding other people to play with, #1201555265942724758 is the place to look. Not here

[leaden ether]

Currently my power consumption is ~1800 MW but I have a max usage of ~2800. What causes these spikes? It is then you attach new equipment to power? Like a momentary power surge?

[placid stirrup]

Max consumption is what it would take to run all machines connected to your grid. If current consumption is lower, it means machines are idle. This will be the case for most people

[leaden ether]

Oh I see, makes sense, thanks 🙂

[gilded marsh]

Where should I bring uranium waste?

or wait can you use the sink for waste?

[placid stirrup]

You have to process it into plutonium rods to sink those, anything before that is unsinkable. You can also use rods to fuel drones to bypass plut waste.

[gilded marsh]

I can't find plutonium rods when pressing N?

[placid stirrup]

You likely haven't unlocked them if you've just recently unlocked uranium power. Until you do, you'll have to store the waste somewhere

[wild heron]

28 hours in 2 days this game is too fun

[grizzled lotus]

just curious, but is there an in-game way to "reverse" a blueprint?

For example, I made a blueprint that takes a 1/3 of the input into storage, and the storage container is on the right. Is there a way to flip it and have it on the left other than manually creating a new blueprint?

[turbid lantern]

Mouse wheel up/down will spin it around.....not sure if that will help or not

[grizzled lotus]

not really, the input and output will face different directions

[thorny valley]

So i need some help here, I think I've done my math wrong, ive set up a turbo fuel PowerPlant, it's making 468.75 turbo fuel a minute can that really supply 62 fuel gens?

[turbid lantern]

Only other thing I can think of is to load the BP in the BP machine and manually remove/readd the parts you need to make it work. Not sure how complex the BP is but thats my best guess

[turbid lantern]

Looks right to me. Although thats assuming you're not OCing the fuel generators, which you absolutely should

[cyan garnet]

How much turbo fuel does a fuel generator consume per minute?

[sturdy dawn]

hey guys. i have to wait like 2 hours before i can do meaningful things again.
what is most important when unlocking tier 9?

[cyan garnet]

Reminder that the quick search bar in game can be used as a calculator. Press N for Nalculator

[thorny valley]

Oh okay I will OC

[cyan garnet]

OCing generators reduces the number you need to build. The fuel consumption and power output scales linearly

[thorny valley]

Yeah I know that

I just need to go power alig hunting

[cyan garnet]

eg for regular fuel it’s 20 fuel min making 250 MW, fully overclocked its 50 fuel for 625 MW

[thorny valley]

Slug* but I'm in blue crater so there's a ton around me

[austere crag]

I got stuck

[sturdy dawn]

how?

[cyan garnet]

The dangle spires north of the canyon have tons of slugs too

[austere crag]

In a mountain

With a hypertube

[thorny valley]

Thank you, ive also been using scim to help me

[sturdy dawn]

kekw. use noblisk for fast way home

[cyan garnet]

Sounds like it’s time to respawn from the main menu

[thorny valley]

I do that all the time

[austere crag]

Hope I can pick the items

[thorny valley]

I always have a ridiculous amount of beryl nuts or bacon ageric

[thorny valley]

Turn on keep inventory

Best decision i ever made

[sturdy dawn]

you can change ingame settings to not lose stuff without harming achievements

[thorny valley]

^

[austere crag]

Wait I will just load an autosave

[sturdy dawn]

also if you are already there turn mobs to only attack back or passive

[austere crag]

Insane

[thorny valley]

I have arachnophobia mode on, fuck those gaint creatures

Giant*

[sturdy dawn]

me too. i have just friendly cats meowing at me

[thorny valley]

They scare the shit out of me, those things can jump like half way across the map

[austere crag]

Nvm the game saved when I got stuck

[thorny valley]

It's insane

[austere crag]

Turned on keep inventory and killed myself

[thorny valley]

I hate when it glitches sometimes and you can still hear them normally

[austere crag]

How do you tame the space lizards

[sturdy dawn]

that never happend to me

[thorny valley]

Drop space raspberry on the ground

It will approach and then you pet it immediately after

[austere crag]

Insane

[sturdy dawn]

what to do first when t9?

[thorny valley]

Take a break and contemplate how much time you've spent getting there

Thats what you do

[sturdy dawn]

ficsit told me to

[grizzled lotus]

when befriending lizards sometimes they just walk away before you can give them the berries, is there a way to lure them back or is that not possible when it happens in that encounter?

[thorny valley]

Crouch

And drop the berries again

[sturdy dawn]

once i captured one and it was big like a house and made my game crash and i didnt get achievement

[thorny valley]

That was probably on the April fools update

[sturdy dawn]

lizard dogs are extremely dangerous

[thorny valley]

I want to tame giant whale tick thing so I can ride it like a war elephant

[turbid lantern]

Space Giraffe Tick Penguin Whale Thing*

a.k.a "Bean", "Land Whale", "Chonky Boy", "Mr. Bean", "Steve", or "Tim"

[sturdy dawn]

the walking bounce pads?

[thorny valley]

How do I determine this for turbo fuel

[thorny valley]

Steve? WATER BUCKET RELEASE

[cyan garnet]

What is the turbo fuel consumption rate at standard clocking?

[sturdy dawn]

7.5

[thorny valley]

Oh wait I'm blind it did change the fuel intake number on the gen

[sturdy dawn]

yes it is worth it

[cyan garnet]

Therefore What’s 7.5 * 250%

[thorny valley]

I thought it didn't

[sturdy dawn]

it is 250mw at like a third of the burn rate

[thorny valley]

I need 75 power shards bruhhh

To do all the gens fully over clocked

[eager oar]

Time to go on an adventure!

[thorny valley]

Sadly, I think I'll target purple power slugs the most

[sturdy dawn]

i wish i would have known you can overclock these with no loss (except slug) before i placed like hundreds of generators

[eager oar]

If you have any sloops, you can double your output of slugs to power shards

[thorny valley]

I do

[cyan garnet]

There’s enough slugs on the map to make 5k shards if you sloop their production in a constructor

[grizzled lotus]

crazy thought; smelters accepting iron/copper should by default make iron/copper ingots without me telling them

[turbid lantern]

I think alt recipies ruin that for everyone

[sturdy dawn]

be happy with being 80% done and call it a day?
that's not the spirit - ficsit doesnt approve
for real: what to do in t9 you wish you would have known before?

[long zealot]

Is something satisfactory happening here?

[grizzled lotus]

if I input/merge different stuff into a chain of storage containers will it organize itself?

I would really love to have all my storage in one place

[eager oar]

Organize itself?

[thorny valley]

Nah it's rather factorio in here

[grizzled lotus]

like maybe it wouldn't get clogged

[long zealot]

My god. Thats bad joke number 2. How punny could it get here?

[eager oar]

I think you will need to utilize smart splitters or programmable splitters to organize it

[grizzled lotus]

ok, so I have to wait I guess. thanks

[ashen belfry]

You want a spaghetti belt going into multiple containers in a row or parallel?

[sturdy dawn]

I have questions about power usage in last phase. the 100 pasta were very intense and my 20GWH battery barely sustained it. now i shut off coliders and everything is fine again. regarding the experience i would say even 1000 is possible if i pause production at some point to recharge. Do i really need a nuclear power plant for phase 5 or can i just do very efficient power management and avoid?

[grizzled lotus]

I was thinking of a row

I don't have smart splitters or programmable splitters yet btw

I just now heard of them

[ashen belfry]

There would be a complete chaos.

And you have less storage, if all slots are full, but some stacks aren't full,

Just do separate lines going into separate storages

[grizzled lotus]

I guess I need programmable whatever to do that

[sturdy dawn]

the smart ones are enough for what you need. just gather a bunch caterium to unlock which takes half an hour if you never touched it before

[kind berry]

you need at least 1 gw plus 5 batteries per collider you want running, 1.5 gw and no batteries also works. nuclear is great for far exceeding that 1.5 gw requirement, but you can get similar by covering all the coasts in fuel generators

[peak wasp]

to not live fully - deeply, is to miss life, isnt.

[sturdy dawn]

full slooped and oc is 20gw each

[kind berry]

oh

[sturdy dawn]

yea.. i ran into battery

[kind berry]

yeah nuclear is probably your best bet then

[sturdy dawn]

no estimation for all phase 5 parts in gw?

[kind berry]

what do you mean?

[sturdy dawn]

i have 100GW. i use 80GW. with colliders for 10 pasta per minute active i use 160GW (battery saved my butt here). i would like to avoid nuclear because it is complex and buttload of work and radiation is dangerous. how much extra GW do i need to complete phase 5?

[kind berry]

that all depends on how fast you want to make it and how much stockpile you have, with 80 gw of background usage you clearly have a bunch of production already. i'm really not sure how to answer your question other than faster=more power and slower=less

if you're really worried about power then run each P5 part individually, finish pasta then do ai server, then warp drive, etc

[sturdy dawn]

nothing else i can do to prepare as annoying people with seemingly dumb questions 🙈 while waiting for 300 more items to pull the phase 4 trigger

[kind berry]

oh you haven't even started p5?

[grizzled lotus]

FICSIT should publish a catalogue that shows us what all the materials are worth in AWESOME coupons

[sturdy dawn]

yea 300 more supercomputers into 300 Assembly Director System and boom.. so eh 90 minutes

[kind berry]

i see. well phase 5 in general is very power hungry, it can be done with 20gw free but not well. id recommend at least a cobbled-together nuclear setup, keep all the radioactive stuff in one area and you'll be more or less fine

[sturdy dawn]

is it worth processing the waste or just dump somewhere since uranium is infinite?

and how much gwh equals a full big container of waste?

[slate magnet]

or just make a rocket fuel and use that? It's much easier to make rocket fuel and feed it to the generators

[sturdy dawn]

that is the big question. rather squeeze rest out of oil or go uranium chain

[slate magnet]

yeah oil i super easy to use for electricity

[kind berry]

oh thats true, forgot about that. thats a metric f ton of fuel gens though

[kind berry]

240 waste per gwh

[kind berry]

so 100 gwh per container

[slate magnet]

does this seem like a lot?
#screenshots message

[kind berry]

a bit yeah

[sturdy dawn]

kekw

yea

[slate magnet]

well trains don't power themselves

[sturdy dawn]

i am almost sure nuclear is less work intensive except i have to annoy my math buddy

[kind berry]

not saying that rf isn't good but i personally don't like just spamming FGs

[slate magnet]

no, rocket fuel is super easy to set up

[kind berry]

nitro RF alt makes it so much easier too

[ashen belfry]

RF is really nice, with the right recipes it's quite easy to setup. However placing FGs is kinda annoying ngl

I can speak of experience.
500GW was the result

Endless amount of FGs

[sturdy dawn]

i think you overshot

[ashen belfry]

Only oil from blue crater.

[ashen belfry]

Are you sure?

[sturdy dawn]

i dont know

[slate magnet]

nah 500 is easy to use right after tutorial

[kind berry]

that is at least 800 FGs assuming full overclock, 2000 if not

[ashen belfry]

Yeah. I think I did.
Ended up using like 100MW

[sturdy dawn]

when people say 20gw is enough to do it slow 200gw seems like a good deal which is not even half the work you did

[ashen belfry]

Was before phase 5, so not an endless amount of shards

[slate magnet]

after you finish phase 5 of the tutorial you start using a lot of electricity

[sturdy dawn]

phase 5 of the tutorial lol

[slate magnet]

I mean story is the tutorial. Real game starts after

[sturdy dawn]

3.9% completed the game xD

fun fact that means 40% of people which managed to complete phase 4 failed after

[turbid ledge]

My aluminum production feels like a mess

Im producing so much water from it that i just have nowhere to store it

I was thinking of using it for reactor coolant but that seems to be backfiring

[sturdy dawn]

you need to figure out what valve is

[kind berry]

wet concrete helps absorb overflow if recycling it back to alumina step doesn't work

[turbid ledge]

I guess i can always make more encased industrial beams

I apparently always need those i guess

With said concrete

[kind berry]

concrete is also needed for singularity cells in t9

[turbid ledge]

Swell

[sturdy dawn]

with normal recipes you can bring back 1/3 into the supply.
reduce incoming fresh water by that amount and you have no excess

[turbid ledge]

I think im currently using the water to make sulfuric acid

So i can make 30 aluminum scrap

I forgot that valves exist

[kind berry]

valves tend to make pipe problems worse if they're not 100% open or 100% closed, look up variable priority pipe junctions if you're trying to recombine byproduct with fresh

[turbid ledge]

Got it

Ive also been kinda having a problem with extra fuel

[sturdy dawn]

oh no

too much energy

[turbid lantern]

said noone ever

[sturdy dawn]

he did

[turbid ledge]

Because i have put most my crude oil into making resin so i can make rubber and aluminum however the byproduct has caused me to have way to much reserve fuel

So i have just been packaging it and sending to the ticket machine and turning it all into turbo fuel

[turbid lantern]

Slap down some fuel generators?

[turbid ledge]

Ive powered like 8 generators

However im trying to use up the fuel just enough to where there is always resin producing. Becuase the problem im having is that i have so much that resin production stops causing my rubber and aluminum to stop aswell

[sturdy dawn]

shredder

[turbid lantern]

Overclock the generators if you haven't already toi fine tune the ratio correctly

[turbid ledge]

Time to find more slugs i guess

[turbid lantern]

dont forget to sloop! 🙂

[turbid ledge]

If i find any i will

I know the achievement says get 50 sloops but is there more than 50 in game or is that the amount on the map

Like with getting 150 mercer spheres

Is that the amount on the map or is there more than 150

[sturdy dawn]

yes there is like double the amount since some are weird ass puzzle labyrinth thingies (you can just skip)

[turbid lantern]

298 mercer spheres and 106 Sloops

[turbid ledge]

Oh ok thank god

[tranquil ibex]

Also that one time that half of them respawned for no apparent reason

[turbid ledge]

I did also find a cave where i can just go under the map

So that was something

And by that i mean theres just a random hole that clips through the ground

[sturdy dawn]

can you put conveyor lift there?

[turbid ledge]

Id have to check im heading over there rn anyways

[sturdy dawn]

could be a fine space for waste

[turbid ledge]

The cave was also just weirdly placed

[tranquil ibex]

Happens

[turbid ledge]

Like the cave’s horrendously small

[turbid lantern]

where are you at?

[turbid ledge]

Let me take a screenshot when i get there i dont know the location names

[sturdy dawn]

yea tell us where the infinite waste dump is

[grizzled lotus]

I'm starting to realize iron pipes isn't that good of a recipe

[sturdy dawn]

except you want to use coal somewhere else

[grizzled lotus]

it requires a lot of ingots

[sturdy dawn]

what bothers you about the recipe except iron usage?

[gritty marsh]

how well do fluid trains work now? Ive heard gases work pretty well and liquids are weird

[turbid ledge]

FOUND IT

[turbid ledge]

#screenshots

Its this small little cave and if you up in the cave you can clip out the map

Theres alot of space hete

[grizzled lotus]

it's just the iron usage

[turbid lantern]

I replied...is it that one?

[turbid ledge]

Yes

If you look upwards you should be able to jet pack up and clip onto the outside a bit

Decent amount of room and you can place stuff there

[tranquil ibex]

It's mostly to cut coal out of smaller steel productions, motors most of all, since there tends to be random iron nodes just about everywhere

[zenith pecan]

You don't need specific spots to clip, you can go under the map almost anywhere.

[grizzled lotus]

that makes sense. but I just went through an immense amount of trouble to set up a foundry so I'm not letting that go to waste

[dawn idol]

U can't do 1 huge factory fyi

Last time i checked you can't finish the game while doing that

[grizzled lotus]

I'm having a lot of fun with this game but honestly I find building really long belts and poles to cross distances is quite unfun

[turbid ledge]

I usually use the larger power towers for long distance

Saves me alot of time

[native cradle]

Try to use alternate transportation across long distances. Like cars or trains. Belts id advise only using for transportation within a factory

A good transportation network is important otherwise you stand no chance later in your playthrough

[zenith pecan]

Not the same power towers I built in the blue crater eh 😛 , those are more than half a kilometre in height and generate 1.1Tw

[nocturne nebula]

wow, found some music!

[turbid ledge]

Deep rock galactic?

[proper hound]

You want to compress gases into cylinders instead of using the tank wagons, 4x the capacity

[gritty marsh]

oh great, I get to place A LOT of packagers now

6000 nitrogen/min

[frozen ingot]

you want to package nitrogen?

[proper hound]

packaging makes it faster to transport

[zenith pecan]

I cba to package nitrogen personally, it's a gas, I just pipe it and be done with it.

[frozen ingot]

does it really though? 😆

[leaden turret]

4 nitrogen in one canister

[nocturne nebula]

not sure what was available by default ... I have these: Absolute, Joel Syntholm, Le Michael, Sanctum 1+2, Goat

[turbid ledge]

Deep rock galactic can be found in a cave

[gritty marsh]

you can transport more but i think for this ccase its more work than its worth

[turbid ledge]

I think its behind a waterfall near all the coal

[proper hound]

depends on disatance and if railway already exists
Dragging one rail vs 6-10 pipes is a vsible difference

[gritty marsh]

no nitrogen is nearby where im at so pipes are definitely not worth dragging over

nearest nitrogen is like 2000 meters

[frozen ingot]

yeah but... and even more so now with blueprint auto-connect... is it? 😛

like beyond the theory, i know what you mean

[leaden turret]

go look at belt speed vs. pipe speed

[grave dew]

Are dedicated servers free, if not how much is it?

[leaden turret]

the software is free yes

[frozen ingot]

i just mean for the hassle of packaging and unpackaging it... you could just build an extra pipe or two, right?

[tame garnet]

I'm a little confused about turbo rifle ammo. Is it a higher damage per shot type ammo? It fires much more slowly than regular ammo.

I thought it was suppose to be a lower per shot damage rapid fire ammo

[grizzled lotus]

tbh I hadn't considered using trucks at all cause I thought belts were always better

[green fiber]

keep holding fire

[leaden turret]

one mk.6 belt can carry 8 times the nitrogen one mk.2 pipe can.

[frozen ingot]

much higher magazine capacity, gradually increases rate of fire, 4 damage per round instead of 5, iirc

[native cradle]

Belts are more reliable than trucks but just aren’t good for long distances

With belts you always know exactly what will happen but trucks you need to keep them fueled and you may not get a constant rate

[grizzled lotus]

I didn't want to drive the truck all the way but I guess I'll give it a try

[leaden turret]

belts are fine for long distance.

what isn't fine for long distance is people's patience to build them long distance 😛

[grizzled lotus]

true

[native cradle]

Yea exactly

If you have the patience to build loads of belts spanning the map then go for it

[frozen ingot]

much easier now though with auto-connect!

[native cradle]

I wish auto connect could be used with hypertubes

[grizzled lotus]

auto connect?

[frozen ingot]

i figured it was something like that, although not 8x, but i'd just build a blueprint with as many necessary pipes instead of as many necessary belts, y'know?

[leaden turret]

blueprinting feature in 1.1 for auto-connecting belts/power between blueprints and stuff

[tame garnet]

oh I see, takes way to much time to increase fire speed whilst simultaneously becoming unable to hit the broad side of a barn. So, worthless ammo type, no need to automate. 😄

[leaden turret]

1200 is 2x 600.
1 packaged nitro has 4x unpackaged nitro.

maaaaaath

[frozen ingot]

you may be missing my point 😛

also i'm getting at the point that 'faster' may not be accounting for player time, not just throughput 😄

[tame garnet]

and homing ammo keeps shooting into the ground like there's an out of bounds enemy down there somewhere. 😦 Just plain ol' ammo for me.

[turbid ledge]

After some stupidity. I have realized i can power three nuclear reactors with one fuel rod being produced at 250% speed

I will now just turn the red forest into a nuclear wasteland

Screw you spiders

[gritty marsh]

nuclear is fun (if you like the torture)

[turbid ledge]

It doesn’t seem so bad

Only thing i have struggled with is getting enough water pumping into one at max 250%

i decided to just make a bunch of base ones

[gritty marsh]

this is my nuclear plan #screenshots message

[turbid ledge]

What am i looking at.

[gritty marsh]

my plan for the full chain of nuclear using all but 17 uranium on the map

[turbid ledge]

I keep on seeing these but i dont even know what this software or whatever people are using to make these is

[gritty marsh]

the software is satisfactory modeler which is free on steam, you have to put everything together yourself on it though

[nocturne nebula]

crazy how rare I see both nighttime and rain in this game

[turbid ledge]

Ah ok

[turbid ledge]

I assume night has to do with the fact that we’re probably a moon of the ringed planet if i had to guess

Like we just have a really slow orbit or something idk

[leaden turret]

looks at rain being turned off in update 8

[oblique cape]

I love this game, but crashing 15 times before getting to the main menu is taking its toll

[grizzled lotus]

ok, I changed my mind. I'm going back to iron pipes. setting up the steel production took immense time, I regret even thinking about it

[nocturne nebula]

aw, I found it so soothing, lol

performance issues?

[leaden turret]

In the sense that crashing is bad for performance

[nocturne nebula]

ooof

[frozen ingot]

is dark matter residue a gas or a fluid, i can't see in game

[turbid ledge]

I would recommend getting steel for screws

Theres a recipe where you can get i think 56 screws for one piece of steel

Steel beems

[left totem]

it's a fluid and a gas 😄

wait lemme look it up

yeah it's fluid matter, -> gas

I think you asked about liquids (like fuel)

so DMR is a gas (doesn't need headlift)

[frozen ingot]

thanks

odd that it doesn't say in game

in the codex that is

[dense violet]

it's officially not a gas

it's 'something else'
but it behaves like gasses in all ways it seems

[true mulch]

yeah the quantum substances are just gases

[frozen ingot]

mmmkay

[trim vine]

Gents, I could use some advice...

Working in the western oil fields, I have a recycled set up going:

• 600 Oil > 400 Plastic + 200 Heavy Oil Residue (HOR)
• 600 Oil > 400 Rubber + 400 HOR
• 600 Oil > 400 Fuel
• 600 HOR Byproduct > 400 Fuel

All of the above flows into 2 lines of 13.334 refiners making a total of 800 Plastic and Rubber

This is perfectly balanced and ran great for some time for maybe 3 days, checked on it today and its completely stopped.

My guess is its the fuel from the HOR line, which if that backs up, everything stops.

Whats a good way to have a built in correction for if the HOR line of Fuel gets overloaded over time?

[true mulch]

how are you dealing with the fuel?

[unkempt blade]

lines 1 and 2 are being consumed by line 4?

[trim vine]

@true mulch

Mathematically, it should be a 1:1 consumption rate for the Recyled Rubber and Plastic

@unkempt blade I mean, trying to turn these 400 lines of Rubber and Plastic into 800 😛

[true mulch]

if 100% of the fuel is being consumed by recycled plastic and rubber, then it shouldn't ever back up, no?

[unkempt blade]

yeah I'm just trying to understand where the HOR from the first couple bullets goes. If it goes into the bullet 4 line then you might just need more fuel generators to use all the output

[trim vine]

The combined total of original plastic and rubber lines total 600 HOR, which I then turn into 400 fuel

[frozen ingot]

did you use a tool to crunch the numbers or did you work out the math yourself?

[true mulch]

in case of the recycled oil loop, I believe you have to sink excess at all times

[trim vine]

Theoretically, yes

However travel time (which is as small as it can be) is likely the cause

[trim vine]

I have a spreadsheet going

[frozen ingot]

oooh 😄 old school!

[trim vine]

I have sinks up for everything with overflow splitters

But anyway, my question is, whats a good way to deal with excess fuel?

Mathematically, its 100% balance, but as we all know with liquids, it can get a bit wonky

Just dont know a good automatic way to level fuel out

[unkempt blade]

with a large setup like that I'd usually just look around and see what has a light that isn't green or that flickers off green, check those buildings and see if there's a bunch of stuff in the output with nowhere to go

[trim vine]

No, I KNOW its the HOR line, if that backs up, then plastic and rubber dont get made, and cant flow into the downstream and eat away at the fuel

[true mulch]

way yes, good no
pipes follow gravity, so you can have the intended consumers of fuel lower than the excess handling, that being packaging the fuel and sinking it

I think you should really double check your math with a production planner

because this sounds like a math error

[trim vine]

ok, so I gotta eat a tad into my Plstic line and route overflow into that

[true mulch]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/File:Pipeline_overflow_with_head_lift.png or build this

[frozen ingot]

package and sink it

but if it is truly balanced, you wouldn't need to

[true mulch]

since it's fuel, you can also alternatively burn it in generators, but that takes up a lot of room

sinking excess fluid is always the wrong solution

[frozen ingot]

i like to use SFtool to crunch the numbers for me - but i appreciate that some like the challenge of all that number crunching!

[unkempt blade]

I think you might want to get rid of bullet 3 and the rest of the math maths to me

[trim vine]

I dont see it>

I have 600 HOR/pm as a byproduct > 60 HOR/pm > 40 fuel so 400 fuel

400 Rubber/pm being crafted and I need 30 of that and 30 fuel per refiner

400/30 = 13.3333333 (rounded 13.334, and set to 33.334 in the 14th refiner)

Does that math track for everyone else, at least?

[unkempt blade]

1200 oil => 400 each plastic and rubber + 600 HOR => HOR using residual fuel recipe into 400 fuel

[trim vine]

You need 400 fuel for at least 13.33333, which is one line

[true mulch]

alright, it checks out that using base recipes only, you get 400 rubber, 400 plastic and 800 fuel from 1800 oil

[trim vine]

ONLY reason I dont want to do that is because I dont like "shoddy" power, and since it would be from an overflow, it would be awkward

[true mulch]

you do have 800 fuel total, correct?

[trim vine]

Also, I AM using valves at each point, along with a pump to keep things moving

@true mulch correct, 2 400 lines

[unkempt blade]

valves have some less-intuitive behavior in addition to limiting the flow direction if your pipes aren't all the way full

[frozen ingot]

you prob don't need the valves and you should only need a pump to move liquid vertically upwards

(valves can be tricky)

[remote plaza]

Hi, has there been any saying on 1.1 release date?

[trim vine]

Valves actually fixed things in the short term, when moving liquids along lines of 20 refiners, sometimes they get trapped, in this case, they help direct the flow

[dense violet]

no. Months.

[frozen ingot]

🤔

[dense violet]

try using a powered pump. More reliable for that

[frozen ingot]

months?

[trim vine]

I have those as well to move things along lines

[frozen ingot]

but also no? 😛

[remote plaza]

oh I assumed it would dropped a month or 2 after experimental branch is dropped?

[unkempt blade]

it can even be unpowered if you only care about direction and not adding lift

[dense violet]

no as in there's no update on date
months as in it often takes many months

[frozen ingot]

pumps only necessary for moving liquids up, i have no idea what y'all are talking about 😛

[dense violet]

they actually stop back flow.

[trim vine]

I have found (and this might just be a me thing) that while pumps are designed to only add lift, they do seem to add speed/throughput, which is weird

[dense violet]

without the internal issues valves have

[frozen ingot]

i doubt it'll be months, maybe another month

like historically it's not that long, but maybe my brain isn't remembering well

like a month or two in exp before it usually gets pushed to main

[frozen ingot]

ahh

[dense violet]

nah, 'speed' just depends on how empty the next section is. Which shouldn't at all matter because you should be flooding your system before starting it

[remote plaza]

i hope so

[frozen ingot]

@trim vine i would recommend using that tool (linked in pinned message in #math-and-meta iirc) to double check your spreadsheet math 🙂

or of course, your math is correct but you've missed a section of pipe or belt or something equally frustrating 😄

[dense violet]

was there an issue recently where some fluids were getting deleted on load? I thought I heard about a small bug that was happening

[true mulch]

your math is correct according to SFTools

however, I should note that your setup wastes a huge amount of oil, you could make 800 plastic and rubber from just 533.33 oil (however, using 50 % more refineries and packagers)

[trim vine]

potentially, I am checking it now

but if a valve was misplaced, then the opposite would be happening and there wouldnt be enough HOR to keep up with demand

[true mulch]

do not use valves

at all

[trim vine]

huh

[dense violet]

valves also have hidden mechanisms. Like they'll only let a % of fluid flow through them depending on how full pipes are

[true mulch]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=JAxKkuJKmmP4IPKmV81T

[trim vine]

I am there, how do I work this

[true mulch]

overview tab has the resource usage, building counts etc.

visualization tab has the production line laid out

[trim vine]

Ahhh

Does this utilize the resin as well?

[true mulch]

yeah, as you can see

that can be disabled if you'd want

[dense violet]

if this uses the recycle loop recipes the visualization isn't a very good 'visual' on how to layout the factory though imo

[turbid ledge]

Why does nitric acid require a singular iron plate

[trim vine]

Nah, I think I am going to try the overflow set up thing, and then I can have it dump extra HOR into Pet-coke

[dense violet]

just a little iron, as a treat.

[frozen ingot]

sounds like someone else checked your math, but the tool is great, so recommend it in general!

[dense violet]

overflow?

[turbid ledge]

Its so random

[true mulch]

I had to split your current factory into 3 parts, because it optimizes it away otherwise

1. plastic and rubber https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=rTcVHEtJjthXYzhVxhu5
2. fuel https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=T42CDbKH45YK824jmLHZ
3. recycled p+r https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=DkWa7L77dltXo0gJe39x

[dense violet]

maybe nitric acid actually just needs iron. Never checked it out

[dense violet]

just as a thing, instead of making 'overflows' for fluids, make a dedicated section of HOR producers that only have the volume you need going to the 'overflow'
its much easier to make a stable fluid system like that

[turbid ledge]

Ok I’ve sat here and stared at the description and i am now more confused

[trim vine]

@dense violet original post/math and some more along the way

it SHOULD be balanced

Theoretical Engineering vs practical 😛

[trim vine]

This made my head spin if I am being honest

So based on this diagram, using water and only 533.333 oil, I can turn that into 800 plastic AND rubber?

[true mulch]

Yes

But it uses more alternative recipes and more machines to do so

Resource cost isn't the only factor

Sometimes it's better to waste raw resources and spend less time building a factory

[trim vine]

My mind is just blown at the inefficiency of baseline production

[latent prawn]

package & sink it if you can't burn it

[dense violet]

which description?

[turbid ledge]

The one for nitric acid

Figured it might explain something but it told me nothing

[dense violet]

it's less about 'balanced' and more about layout and flow issues.

if you want reliable piping and flow ? keep fluids going from A to B. No splits or merges or overflows to other systems

[true mulch]

Individual alt recipes provide a trade between resource cost, power usage, building count and complexity. However, when combined, there is a HUGE bias and they end up improving all factors at once. This is prominent the more complex your target product is

[trim vine]

Everything is a direct line to what is suppose to be used

[trim vine]

Yeah, this tool is CRAZY

[dense violet]

well a quick google seems like it might be used as a catalyst? or used in some other way ?

[true mulch]

Satisfactory Tools optimizes for resource cost only, so it's up to you to compare the building count and power usage

[trim vine]

Yuup, can see that, does this assume mk6/5 belts are available?

[true mulch]

Logistics are entirely up to you

[trim vine]

gotcha

[true mulch]

It doesn't work with belts or pipes, just "get this many items to this amount of machines"

[turbid ledge]

At first i thought maybe the acid is pre packaged so they encase it in iron but then I remembered its never like that

[trim vine]

This is a crazy tool, but v interesting

the 99 refiners is making my laugh 😛

[true mulch]

If you want nicer numbers, bump the 800 to 810

Non repeating decimals at least

[whole ermine]

the only thing i rlly dont like about the dune desert is that theres not alot of later-game resources
theres only 1 close by normal sulfur node, the closest SAM patch is in a cave which needs explosives, the next closest is surrounded by radiation. There are some normal and impure oil nodes close but not alot. the closes Bauxite is in the swamp which is very annoying for trains.

Also, theres not alot of limestone in the dunes themselves

[true mulch]

By the late game you have drones and trains, and shouldn't be building everything in one place anyway

[whole ermine]

thats true

but building trains into the swamp is annoying

[naive pendant]

@turbid ledge Best to not look for irl justification for recipes as irl chemistry is, uh, very complicated. Nitric acid production (and many processes) utilize catalysts to increase reaction rates. Those catalysts are often metals for industrial processes. So needing a bit of iron in the recipe is close enough.

Factorio uses iron plate in sulfuric acid as well if that makes you feel better.

[whole ermine]

too low down surrounded by cliffs

[true mulch]

Bridge over it

[dense violet]

none of the starter places have those , there's also 18 limestone nodes there 😛

[turbid ledge]

Ah

[dense violet]

the game forces you to spread out

[true mulch]

I am NOT going near those who live there

[whole ermine]

i dont wannnaaaaaaa

i wanna go up

supa tall

im building my aluminium at my base in the desert this playthrough

[true mulch]

😭

[trim vine]

I have yet to figure out trains either 😛

[dense violet]

do the 5x5 challenge. All building and processing within a 5x5 tower , resources brought in at the bottom https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1fg0d1t/anyone_doing_the_5x5_challenge_for_release/

[naive pendant]

I like trains

[turbid ledge]

Choo

[unkempt sable]

is there any neat way to move things like 500m around a base

i kinda dont want belts everywhere but the other transport options seem abit overkill for just 500m distance

[true mulch]

Everything begins and ends up on a belt anyway

[naive pendant]

Converting 500 m to number of zoops

[true mulch]

There's nothing wrong with long belts

[naive pendant]

7 zoops? I'd just belt it for sure.

[true mulch]

Vehicles exist as an optional way to save you time. 500 m is long enough for a truck line, but what's the point of setting it up if it takes longer than just a long belt

[terse venture]

you should make 1 route in every direction, so 4 routes and use a bundle strategie .. later 500+m is every 2nd spot .)

[leaden ether]

Hmm, pipelines cant use the conveyor stacking poles can they?

[dense violet]

below foundations logistics so you don't see it?

other than designing the base so that the sections that need the parts are right next to each other your options are limited

[dense violet]

for example this makes uranium rods, lots of processes and steps, but almost everything is right next to each other step it needs https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1244244442295042069/image.png?ex=680971af&is=6808202f&hm=4361db649b3d21303bdc110afc48012fc71dbe540dd289cd3360e2121a6be03d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[terse venture]

pilelines has own conyeor poles if you mean them, you can stack both

[unkempt sable]

o

[leaden ether]

Oh! You're right, I was blind -.- 😄 THanks

[terse venture]

they are nice 🙂 plan down the pipes or you pump more later .p

[leaden ether]

Sadly going up hill about 20 meters of ground not including to where they connect to machinery.

[terse venture]

my small belt input https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1364383985219801118/20250423013359_1.jpg?ex=6809791b&is=6808279b&hm=c74d72b5dcc25e1d4b0d6c7c801b3459a5471371735c99f0f5ddd48b0a9631b9&

[loud crag]

What’s your favourite new feature for 1.1? Or a feature you want them to add?

[naive pendant]

If it works well, auto belt/pipe connections between blueprints. Elevators also seem cool.

[loud crag]

My favourite is the garage doors, cus the auto gates don’t work in 1.0

[tranquil ibex]

Being able to place railways anywhere alongside an existing one rather than being limited to the start and end of segments

[loud crag]

Yeah especially with spaghetti factories that’s extremely useful

[north wharf]

any date to 1.1 release?

[loud crag]

Idk

[reef basin]

when it's ready

all we know is in #announcements 🤷

[nocturne nebula]

It’s in testing. Can be a month or much longer. lol

You can play it though!

[prisma thicket]

Does the type of fuel a generator is running on have any effect on power output or is it just efficiency/burn time?

[reef basin]

the gen outputs the same power no matter the fuel

[north wharf]

Okay guys, thank you

[prisma thicket]

Ok, thanks. So just need to make lots more fuel gens to get bigger output 😅

[boreal musk]

different fuel burns at different rate, the power production is still the same for each gen

[nocturne nebula]

How cool would it be if mercer spheres and sloops could boost them. lol

[prisma thicket]

Well sloops can boost power output, just need the augmenter.

[rancid turret]

sloops can boost fuel output

[digital depot]

Nitric acid (HNO3) is primarily produced via the Ostwald process, which involves the oxidation of ammonia, followed by the conversion of the resulting nitric oxide to nitrogen dioxide and its absorption in water. This process typically uses a platinum catalyst and air to oxidize ammonia to nitric oxide (NO), then the NO is further oxidized to nitrogen dioxide (NO2). Finally, NO2 is absorbed in water to produce nitric acid.

basically i think the Idea was to actually use some sort of Metal as a catalyst like platinum but since we dont have such resource ingame availbale it´s like a Workarround 😄 😄 😄

[inland verge]

Does it matter where on the pipe I place a pump? Like, if i have a pipe in an L shape, do I want the pump on the flat side or the vertical side?

[digital depot]

depend on the heightlift

if theres enough pressure after the "L" u can put after ,.. if not ,.. not ,..

[stray jasper]

Console release date ?

[turbid ledge]

ah

[digital depot]

just a tought ,..

considering this makes it not looking toooo random anymore 😂

but i had the same tought ,.. nvm

[turbid ledge]

I think the devs secretly just want me to suffer making more iron plating

Why else would i have to use iron plating for so many things

[digital depot]

hmmm ,...

but the smal ammount you actually need ,.. compared to the 5873761 Nodes available on the map ,.. easy isnt it 😄

[turbid ledge]

Theres never enough plates

The factorys demand more!!!!!

[digital depot]

but sure THEY want YOU to suffer ,.. obviously

😄

alright ,... going to get some sleep ,.. Ficsit dont want accidents

[turbid ledge]

True

[digital depot]

wanna see my latest project 😄

[turbid ledge]

Sure

[turbid ledge]

I can tell you like teal thats for sure

[digital depot]

lol ,.. actually i like the color combination of Mint Black and White

[turbid ledge]

Would you like to see the consequences of free will on my first play through im doing

[digital depot]

sure ,.. HAHA

[turbid ledge]

That picture should sum it up

[digital depot]

my first playtrough was like 100+ hours for nothing as spaghetti 😄 😄 😄

i didnt even made it that far ,...

i quit at phase 3 and restartet ,.. 3x

[turbid ledge]

Im hiding the mess under a lot of floring

Flooring

[digital depot]

like the carpet for the dirt huh

[turbid ledge]

Yes except i cant see the dirt in my build anymore

[digital depot]

massiv carpet

[turbid ledge]

Im planning to just make it pitch black

Put up walls surrounding the sides

[digital depot]

haha ,... another Void ^

alright mate ,.. have fun and good night

2,59 at night local xD

[turbid ledge]

Night

[honest yew]

Do train signals detect nearby rails? i.e. can rails intersect eachother and it'll be detected as a block? What if they're slightly different heights/grades?

[ocean frost]

If the rails are close enough yes

Or touch

[honest yew]

Damn can't post a screenshot in this channel

[ocean frost]

You can use the math and Meta

[reef basin]

or #1038092680493801533 if you want some help

[eager oar]

This sounds fishy or phishy perhaps

It's a brand new account too

You trying to scam people on here buddy?

[zenith pecan]

<@&387163995947270144>

[reef basin]

already pinged in #math-and-meta but more pings better 😄

[eager oar]

Niiiiice

I wasn't sure who to ping

[turbid ledge]

[vital basin]

ada says im 74% more efficient than my peers lets go

[vital basin]

do you play rust

[zenith pecan]

No, I never started that game.

[vital basin]

oh your name is related to it

[zenith pecan]

Not sure how, I've used this name for a couple of decades 🤷‍♂️

[nocturne nebula]

You’re famous and you didn’t even know it!!!

[zenith pecan]

I only started crashing pcs with a game save in the past couple of years though.

[nocturne nebula]

The joys of Early Access

[prisma thicket]

Is the blue crater the only place to find oil, coal and sulfur close together? I only have oil extractors at the moment, so no oil geysers/wells or whatever they are called.

[leaden ether]

Is 1.25 km too far to to a belt over using a train to transport an ore?

[boreal musk]

i would use trains if the resources i need is more than 1km

[zenith pecan]

I've had some colossal belts that if you take the turns in to account, have been like 10km long before.

[leaden ether]

Wow 😄

[latent prawn]

it is probably the most convenient, but there's a few spots on the north side of the map where the logistics don't suck

dune desert has a ton of sulfur (comparitively for a single biome) and a lot of coal too. getting it to the spire coast or canyon oil requires some sort of transport. there's a small amount of sulfur and a lot of coal in the area between north & titan forest that is pretty close to the canyon oil, and then there's a bit of sulfur in crater lakes and oil there as well that can be leveraged with the pink forest coal

[turbid ledge]

I dont think ada likes me then

I got like 52

[prisma thicket]

That's excellent info, thank you. Will likely try doing something in the north since I already have power infrastructure up there 😁

[latent prawn]

if you started in grass fields, blue crater is probably you're best choice. that biome has become kind of the choicest place on the map

[prisma thicket]

I started in rocky desert, so literally the opposite end of the map 😅

[latent prawn]

ahh, haha, yeah, well 🤷

not a ton of sulfur near you, gotta say

what you do have is a pure sulfur node a ways down the gold coast along with the twin lakes' coal

[prisma thicket]

Yah, I've noticed that. Just need one pure node worth of coal and sulfur to get my turbofuel power plant up and running. Well, that and 600 units of oil.

[latent prawn]

i favor using blended turbofuel for power. it requires more crude, but less sulfur and no coal

[prisma thicket]

I don't have blenders yet, so the base recipe will have to suffice for now. If my math is right I'll be getting just over 11000 Mw of power, which more than covers my current needs, and gives me plenty of room to tear down some older power plants and repurpose those resources 😁

[dense violet]

for headlift? doesn't matter.

as long as it's within the previous headlift

[lime ermine]

She says I'm that much less efficient

[winged bronze]

Hey everyone! I was curious to know if someone can teach me the ropes on how to get coal into each of my truck stations so that the trucks can always have coal on their routes. Is there a way to do that? I have a dedicated truck station attached to a coal node for plenty of coal. But I am confused on how to load for example "Modular Frames' at one truck station, to go to a different truck station where I will make Versatile Frameworks. But going from Modular Frame station to Versatile Frame station, the truck will eventually run out of fuel. Is there a way for me to be able to make sure each station always has coal?

[rich ivy]

god the converter is like

a masterclass in Sick As Hell™️ sci-fi technology design

the looks, the sounds, the animations

its peak

[soft oriole]

Usually if you have one station that has fuel you won’t run out - the truck will refill to full at every available fueling point automatically - so unless you are making giant routes you should be fine to just feed one station with the fuel

[winged bronze]

so you're saying have one dedicated station just for fuel? and have the trucks go there in between each route?

when I record my route I mean

[soft oriole]

There is a slot for fuel in every depot - you don’t have to have a dedicated stop for it 🙂

[winged bronze]

I wish there was an easy way to just make sure EACH truck station always has coal, to make the routes shorter lol

[soft oriole]

You can load or unload and the truck will fuel

So you can put coal in the fuel slot and items in the main slot and the truck will pick up the items and refuel at the same time

[winged bronze]

so maybe place a storage container attached to the fuel slot at each station and make sure those containers have coal?

[soft oriole]

That would work but like I said usually you only need one stop with fuel in the fuel slot - unless the path is REALLY big - the truck will only run out of fuel if it uses all 100 coal before refueling

Trucks are good for short trips

Trains are better for long distance

Once you unlock them

[winged bronze]

Right but if that one stop with fuel is not near Station A and Station B route, then there's no other way huh?

I wish there was a way to just have a dedicated truck that can drive to EACH of your station JUST to top of fuel for you

that would be the DREAM

[soft oriole]

True - but does sound like a use case for the alt coal recipes

[soft oriole]

You could do this

Would need two stations at every stop

[winged bronze]

wait I can? But how?

ohhhhh... yeah that's a lot. Whereas one simple container is smaller blueprint, and just fill that up with coal and attach it to fuel slot

[soft oriole]

Have a station that transports coal - feed that coal into the fuel slot of the other station

[winged bronze]

ok so THAT exactly... how do you do that?

[soft oriole]

So let’s say you have a stop that you load coal into the main storage - have that truck (or systems of trucks) have a seperate route that drops coal off at each coal station - the output from those stations can go into the input of the fuel of the other stations

It’s kind of like what you would do with the drones

[winged bronze]

right but my question is... if you have a truck (or system of trucks) have a seperate route that drops coal off... when the station "unloads" the truck... the coal item will go into main container, and not the fuel slot...

and I don't want to mix coal and modular frames in the container inside the truck station lol

[soft oriole]

Yea but you could just turn an output to the fuel input if you wanted

Right - that’s why I’m saying you would need seperate stations

Unfortunately

Like two at every stop

[winged bronze]

so if I turned an output to the fuel input, will it automatically know to put coal in there and not modular frames? lol

[soft oriole]

One for coal and one for the payload and the two routes

[winged bronze]

oh right I see what you mean yeah

[soft oriole]

One set of trucks dedicated to delivering coal

[winged bronze]

one just for coal, and the other just for the items

[soft oriole]

Yup

[winged bronze]

dang... not sure how I will fit 2 stations so it won't look too bad... because some of my spots are tight in space LOL

[soft oriole]

When you get to drones they need fuel too and a lot of people have dedicated refueling drones because there’s usually only a single source for their fuel

[winged bronze]

I see...

[ivory storm]

can i start a new game without overriding my other saves on my other world?

[soft oriole]

Can’t help there sorry lol

[soft oriole]

Yes there’s multiple save files

[soft oriole]

Which blueprint you using mk1?

[winged bronze]

correct

[soft oriole]

Close to mk2 blueprint? It gives an extra tile in all 3 dimensions (5x5x5) it’s noticeably bigger

In 1.1 it basically begs you to make hypertube cannons and I’m now convinced coffee stain wants you to use them

[winged bronze]

yeah very close to MK2 lol

[soft oriole]

Awesome I think that might help ya

[prisma thicket]

If I'm building a turbofuel power plant, what's the best use of the polymer resin? Should I just sink it to cut down on the number of machines or make something out of it?

[soft oriole]

Make something with it even if you sink it in my opinion

Sometimes I ship it out somewhere else to make plastic or rubber

At one factory I send it to another to make fiber for gas masks

Excuse me : polyester

[prisma thicket]

Alright, I think I'm going to need more plastic anyways for my next batch of project parts, so making more of that probably won't hurt.

[ivory storm]

you need so much plastic late stage lol

[soft oriole]

I have two fuel power plants in my save and a factory that just makes plastic and rubber lol

So much plastic lol

And ALL of it goes to my second computer factory

[ivory storm]

going back to square one is kinda crazy

[prisma thicket]

I already have one small power plant making plastic and rubber plus a little packaged fuel for my jetpack. But this turbofuel plant I'm planning is going to be about 10 times the size xD

[ivory storm]

you forget what everything is actually made of

[soft oriole]

No alts either

[ivory storm]

alts?

[soft oriole]

Alt recipes

[ivory storm]

oh right lol

no hoverpack or jetpack even 😭

[soft oriole]

At one of my plants I use the resin to make packaged fuel

[soft oriole]

lol have you jumped off something yet thinking you wearing it yet? I did it enough I went back to my old save LOL

[solid dawn]

Gotta love those suicide jumps.

[ivory storm]

nah just started

probs will tho

[soft oriole]

I literally cowabunga’d into the abyss from muscle memory alone lol

[solid dawn]

I did that once off my 256m tower (had the jetpack, but no fuel,) thankfully I saved myself by steering into the building four floors down.

[soft oriole]

Whoops

[soft oriole]

I don’t watch my fuel enough either and I don’t notice until I’m accidentally burning biofuel and the “/!\” shows up

Not the green jug the little pellet one

[solid dawn]

lol

[soft oriole]

It’s enough time for “wait a second… something’s wrong… oh this is gonna hurt”

Sometimes I’m high enough I have time to pull more from dimensional depot nowadays

Tier 9 can’t come fast enough I’m addicted to buying ionized fuel from the awesome shop

Need that synthetic POWAHHH

ADA make it shameful too

[solid dawn]

Oh man, my latest build on experimental hasn't reached the dimensional portal stage yet...I miss that so badly.

But man, those elevators are such a blessing...

[soft oriole]

I am loving the update though

[winged bronze]

I know eventually I will encounter better fuel, but my goodness do I love these trucks and their routes... I can't stand spaghetti or very long belt lines and much prefer cleaner truck routes lol

[soft oriole]

Elevators and the hypertube stuff is awesome