satisfactory

[cinder briar]

The biomass generators are in the "main base" my plan is to build the coal power generators next to the coal deposits to the west of my base and then run a power line back to the main grid, so if it trips at least it will be simple to separate the gens from the grid.

Are you saying it might be worthwhile to build some biomass generators to power the coal if the grid trips, or did i misunderstand?

I imagined it would be simpler to run one powerline to the base than run many water pipes and coal belts to the main base....

[stiff sparrow]

yeah youll quickly learn putting everything in one place is impractical

its ur choice if u wanna deal with cutting a power line if u wanna put up some biomass gens now

but if u think youll be responsible with ur grid pressure and wont trip it I wouldnt spend the time now and id wait until u have researched grid partitioning or whatever it is, priority switches I think

[obtuse sable]

does the glitch for lift floor holes to make lifts go longer than their limit work with pipe floor holes?

[wispy sequoia]

how do u set up multiple stations on a 2 way train for multiple resources

[old canyon]

No 😔

[wet shoal]

This sounds like a profoundly silly idea.

[old canyon]

Block signals only - on the splits, facing both directions

[wispy sequoia]

it cant be on one line ? like it picks up an item then goes through picks up a second in a diff freit car

[keen crag]

any eta on the 1.1 update on live? estimated maybe?

[spice patio]

When stable enough ™️

[wet shoal]

You can have a single train with multiple wagons full of different things. You just need empty platforms and staggered cargo stations to load it like that.
or a single trainsation with all of the cargo stations next to each other.

[old canyon]

Yeah it can, but more than 1 train in this system will break it

[random wasp]

How many rips should I make in tier 7 and 8

[reef basin]

however many you need

[frozen cloud]

100

[random wasp]

Good enough, thanks

[reef basin]

you shouldn't make things just because you may need them in the future

[random wasp]

I only needed 20 til I got to tier 6 😢

[reef basin]

(also I don't recommend making them centralised 🙂 )

[random wasp]

I would but the biome I’m in makes logistics between two places a pain in the ass

Oh I see what you mean

[white dawn]

Yeah, IMO even if you do jump to centralization early, RIPs are an awfully basic part (especially once you're in Phase 4). Just make 'em onsite where needed; there'll be iron nearby

[random wasp]

im cast screws #1 so that makes them even easier

[cinder briar]

Yeah i'm only on "tier 4" i think with coal power and steel smelting just beeing available for unlocking.

I've dumped quite a bit into an awesome sink but have not seen anything for partitioning the power grid yet.

I'm guessing it will be unlocked later in the game.

Also i would not need to cut anything off right now i would built the new biomass burners over by the coal power site when i build it, so the biomass burners would be as a backup for the coal plants to facilitate easier restarting of the grid if i trip anything.

[reef basin]

if you need RIPs for personal use, make them
if a factory needs RIPs as ingredients, make RIPs in that factory, in the amount that factory needs
(that's valid for every item)

[frozen cloud]

check the mam

[cinder briar]

Will do!

[frozen cloud]

||its under caterium||

[cinder briar]

Ah, that would explain it I have yet to start mining from a Caterium node, will get that on my todo list then.

[frozen cloud]

hm actually you need tier 5 to unlock them

[cinder briar]

Alright, i got some modular frames and something else to feed the great space elevator before that :D

Just setup my copper sheet production for the coal power.

gonna do that then return to manufacturing.

[sacred mountain]

why do i keep scrashing when placing a train station?

[cinder briar]

A clip of your issue would help in troubleshooting

[sacred mountain]

where to send?

[cinder briar]

I would upload It to youtube and then share the link here.

Or hop on one of the voice chanels and stream your game?

[sacred mountain]

Its just me placing a station and then crashing

[cinder briar]

oh you mean the client crashes

[sacred mountain]

yes

[cinder briar]

i thought the train where crashing lol :/

don't know, you don't get any error message or logs?

[sacred mountain]

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x00000000000002d8

and much more

[cinder briar]

Have you verified the gmae files?

[sacred mountain]

i need to place like 30 Stations and i keep crashing

[cinder briar]

are you running 1.0 or 1.1 experimental

[sacred mountain]

its not only me thats crashing. Version 1.1 and on a server

just updated both today when update came out

[cinder briar]

well 1.1 is experimental i would upload my crash log to: https://www.satisfactorygame.com/support/

can't help you further :/

[sacred mountain]

when i restart it says send and restart so i think its sending it when i press it

[zenith pecan]

I know it's been hours, I have only just got home, here's the requested quick guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc9T_ZlDv68 , sorry it's a youtube vid, the clip after editing was 111Mb.

[cinder briar]

Wow did not know this was even possible, thank you for sharing :)

[zenith pecan]

I'm not known as the tunnel rat for nothiong 😄

[cinder briar]

I see the monicker fits the man :D

[random wasp]

ripping up my whole factory, from power lines to conveyors, wish me luck in undoing whats essentially fancy spaghetti🫡

[zenith pecan]

Fighting the spaghetti monster does take time and some sacrifice 😛 🍝

[random wasp]

lol only thing to do while im waiting for my power storage to charge

[wet shoal]

Area delete should been in the game

[random wasp]

tell me about it

but id need an undo button too

[reef basin]

why tho?

[austere valve]

for 1% more efficiency

[random wasp]

didnt like the look of it

also super space inefficient

[reef basin]

well space is technically infinite, so that's not a big problem 🙂

[random wasp]

yeahhh but i built in a lil valley and didnt realize how big itd get

so every inch counts

[elder apex]

space might be infinite, but not all space is equal

[random wasp]

so today i found out that by switching to the heavy turbofuel i can squeeze out double my current power production for pretty much free since i was using the recipe to convert heavy oil to fuel for it in the first place

[placid stirrup]

Are you using diluted fuel alt as well?

[keen trail]

yo how to unlock gas masks

[placid stirrup]

Wham bam thank you MAM

[whole ermine]

why are my freight stations never in sync?

[reef basin]

wdym in sync

[whole ermine]

the crane hook things

theyre never going at the same time, the animation is delayed for some of them

[grizzled lotus]

I haven't seen the lizard in a long time. is that normal?

I haven't befriended it yet btw

[azure swan]

Do drop pods continue to draw power after you've opened the door?

[keen trail]

NO

no

[sinful bobcat]

No

[red sun]

he's probably scurried off somewhere, i'm sure he'll turn up again at some point

[red sun]

nO

[sinful bobcat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1111040810574680076/1361108495180497108/maragun.gif

My honest reacting

[frozen cloud]

are you guys sure
from the wiki
"If connecting the pod to the main power grid, make sure to disconnect it once the drive is collected, as they will continue to draw power even after the hard drive has been retrieved."

also im pretty sure i remember getting the fuse break after wrongly disconnecting biomass burners after getting a hard drive

[wet shoal]

Memo to myself: check local resource maximum with consideration of technical limitations before making a production plan next time

[frail sleet]

I have that also

[left totem]

for drop pods, I highly recommend APAs, very fast to build and generates 500 MW

[frozen cloud]

the fuck is APA

[left totem]

alien power augmenter

the thing that boosts your power by 10% and costs somersloops

[grizzled lotus]

I found ANOTHER lizard

can I befriend more than one?

[frozen cloud]

yes

[grizzled lotus]

it just stares at me, it won't come nearer to the berries

[onyx forge]

guys how do i get the grapling hook or that thing that hooks onto cables

[distant pilot]

it's the zipline, you have to go down the caterium tech tree in the M.A.M. for it

[onyx forge]

ok thank you

[onyx forge]

how do i start

the tree

[distant pilot]

find loose chunks of caterium around the map

[shrewd palm]

theres a pure node in the bottom of the grassy fields, but you need nobelisks for it

[distant pilot]

visually it looks like gold, a shiny yellow (as opposed to a dull yellow which is sulfur)

[onyx forge]

ok

[distant pilot]

when you do the first research with 10 ore you can scan for deposits of it

[onyx forge]

ok thank you so i just go wander around the planet unitl i found 1 and get 10

[shrewd palm]

yeah theres one at the bottom of the grassy fields (-135,430 , 223,342) and another at (-93,546 , 275,943)

[gritty marsh]

is it possible to use SCIM to delete all of something in my world, like I want to remove my current train network and redo it because I dont like it

like a select all kinda thing for rails ig

[leaden turret]

yes, probably (I think there's a selection filter).

ask in the scim discord to be sure though.

[gritty marsh]

alright ig i have to rejoin that then lol

[leaden turret]

put your infrequently-used servers in a folder and mute them all, saves having to leave

[gritty marsh]

yeah I have my servers all sorted, I just dont really stay in servers Im going to do next to nothing in

[wet shoal]

Went with a bioburner BP with overclock instead. Has a storage to drop a stack in, and its all pre-connected.

Load balanced

Didn't get to use it very much sadly since I spam powertowers anywhere I go

[frozen cloud]

you can put fuel into the burners and then blueprint it
that way they are already up when building

its actually so nice for hard drives

[wet shoal]

The more you know

[left totem]

well yeah but APAs allowed me to think simpler

[frozen cloud]

10 sloop cost is a lot though

[wet shoal]

Imagine not having 10 sloops on you at all times

Poor people problems

[frozen cloud]

synthetic sloop when

[gritty marsh]

Im going to be using sloops likely just for power purposes lol

[wet shoal]

Slooping the last step is a net power gain in most cases

[static surge]

Bro 😭

[gritty marsh]

Im only slooping SAM production and refineries for copper for 22,500 copper ingots/min

[vagrant oar]

wrong server mb

[left totem]

you can always dismantle it when the HD is acquired and get them back

[wet shoal]

Slooping the endproduct which consumes the most copper would yield more copper I would assume

[left totem]

d e p o t

[gritty marsh]

I literally cannot make my power plant work without sloops, theres not enough SAM in the world

[frozen cloud]

im using all my sloops right now so i dont have any spares

[left totem]

what if a future build requires sam ?

[gritty marsh]

actually i dont think im slooping those, I think i just overclocked them

[wet shoal]

106 on the map, minues the ones for research

[gritty marsh]

I have like 2.5k to work with after slooping SAM production in my power plant

[frozen cloud]

just dont research the augmenter 🙃

[wet shoal]

Currently not researched because everyone keeps saying power is practically infinite

[frozen cloud]

fuck augmenters
sloops ar eso incredibly powerfull wasting 10 feels just bad

[gritty marsh]

I am overclocking the refineries and slooping/overclocking the place the copper goes to so yeah

? I have SAM left to work with because of the sloops

[junior laurel]

me who will be making 8 APA
I can't hear you

[left totem]

APAs really do be goog

[frozen cloud]

me whos gonna need 32 sloops just for warp drives

[left totem]

can't OC miners

no OC/Sloop playthrough then

hmm, making 100/min of each item challenge

[gritty marsh]

ah I didnt realize you meant thats how you were playing the game

[left totem]

without sloops

[gritty marsh]

I dont think theyre overpowered but theyre definitely something that makes the game a lot easier

[frozen cloud]

they are INSANE

[junior laurel]

I am here to loop the loop-organ

[left totem]

what is the recipe of the oc supercomputer

too late you lost

[frozen cloud]

all i know is that its bait to use it

[gritty marsh]

whats the supposed to mean?

[left totem]

Greeny would always say it depends etc....

But really, on most recipes, supercomputer is straight up better

[frozen cloud]

super state is just better

oh no i said the forbidden word
"better"

[gritty marsh]

Im only using OC supercomputers because it was easy for the factory theyre in, but I would rather use a different recipe

[left totem]

gotta love the supercomputer for its production chain like only requiring :

Quickwire
Ai Limiters
Plastic
Cable
Circuit Board

it's just so easy

[frozen cloud]

have you considered making more

[gritty marsh]

I built my main factory in a corner because im stupid so OC supercomputers ended up being the easiest way for me to make supercomputers since caterium is like 1200 meters from my factory and I dont want to setup trains for it yet

[left totem]

If it were my case, I'd just put a 1200m caterium belt

nuclear pasta, really easy item, didn't take that long

[gritty marsh]

yeah I couldve done that but I have plans to do a factory for everything once I finish my nuclear plant so I dont want more stuff to delete

[left totem]

BWP looks so scary that I finished the game without even making a factory of it

[frozen cloud]

current plan is to make 20 loops

[left totem]

Rocket Fuel™️

[frozen cloud]

wtf is BWP
people need to stop using abbreviations for stuff thats just not clear at all

[left totem]

HOR -> Diluted Fuel -> Nitro Rocket Fuel and boom, very easy fast

[left totem]

if you play the game more than 2 hours you'd know what the end game item BWP is

Both were pride

true

[frozen cloud]

bro i have 1400 hours
i beat the game a week after it 1.0 in 60 hours
my current game is working towards making 40 warp drives per minute
so just stop using weird abreviations that no one understands

[left totem]

bro why

[tame garnet]

So I thought fuel with more energy density would allow burning the jet pack longer to fly higher or longer, but that doesn’t seem to be the case? Am I doing it wrong?

[left totem]

literally everyone understands what BWP is

do you want to play update 2 ?

I wasn't even born in update 2

[frozen cloud]

ye no

[grand wasp]

Maan, i wish there was some kind of advanced train station.
Something where you could assign a train to only dump a type of cargo in a specific bin, instead of all of that cargo in all available bins. Would really help with logistics since I could make longer trains muuch easier.

[gritty marsh]

you can

if i understand right

[left totem]

Literally link two neurons together

also it's not a rather obscure abbreviation like an IP or IR

I started playing the game like 6 months after 1.0

and stopped when I finished it

so the answer is no

DOWNLOAD FREE RAM FPS BOOST NO BUGS NO BAN

[frozen cloud]

you are literally the only person using that abbreviation on the server
no one else out of millions of messages has used it once
so ye everyone else is wrong not you

[left totem]

I lied, never seen IR, although BWP is a relatively commonly used abbreviation

[frozen cloud]

and there isnt even an item that uses the letter B W and P

[left totem]

sadge, I gotta look up to the me who was stuck playing minecraft 1.8.9 on a 15 years old machine

[white dawn]

Ballistic Wrap Prive?

[left totem]

You got it

lucky you

[frozen cloud]

ah yes the well knonw "Prive"

[left totem]

DO NOT, EVER, TRY HYPIXEL SKYBLOCK

[gritty marsh]

I love/hate that game

[left totem]

sb the way we called it...

gotta love the old IMC/IMS community

which were the ironman players, which is like, harder mode

no trade no nothing, "no" relation with the in game economy

I spent like 1.6k in one year

[gritty marsh]

I only have 2.1k in 5 years

[left totem]

and half that time was just me talking through the chat to my guild

hey at least it made me fluent (I think)

[left totem]

you're quite the reasonable type aren't ya

[gritty marsh]

as opposed to satisfactory I currently have almost 600 in the 4 months ive actually played the game

[left totem]

I stopped playing grinding regular video games or video games with story, I'm all about learning japanese now all day, and getting better at valorant, other than that I stopped playing video games since sf

I'm sorry, but actually it's "than"

I played valorant then killed myself because of my lose streak

You're more knowledgeable than me

You're worse than me

then is used in a sequence of event

than is used to compare two things

the more you know...

Trust me, it's been 2.5 years, it's a hard language

because it's VERY different than like english and stuff

[bitter crow]

Im gonna drive myself into a wall, i wish i had trains

[frozen cloud]

bro is correcting grammar but cant even read "Drive" correctly

[left totem]

it was ironic, a joke

(about drive)

I gotta thank youtube where I learned how to understand it fluently then discord and minecraft where I learned and still learn how to speak it at a high level

With little to no mistakes, generally when I do them, it's because I am inattentive and I generally correct myself right away

anyways on that note, I must say good night and good luck to all of you, doing useless factories to fulfill your spare time

[gritty marsh]

it does in fact cure my boredom

[bitter crow]

no one talks about the pain of having to route over 50km of conveyor belts for some steel

[gritty marsh]

its interesting to me that of all languages english ended up becoming the most universal at least from what I can tell in interactions

I hardly see other languages anywhere

[zenith pecan]

Should have seen my old bauxite highway going through a massive tunnel. #design-and-architecture message here it is, old footage from before 1.0 though.

I did eventually create an introduction to tunnelling.

Afterall you did ask for a guide 😛

In case you didn't feel like scrolling back, here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc9T_ZlDv68

The new tunnel network is in its infancy, but already feeds the power station towers that throw out so much power, I'm not sure I'll ever use it all.

More practice with video creation is always welcome too 😄

[prisma forge]

I started a playthrough where I actually calculate everything and DEAR LORD THERE'S SO MUCH WASTED MATERIALS IN MY FIRST PLAYTHROUGH

[zenith pecan]

I dread to imagine just how much power I'd create if I burned the whole maps uranium again in addition to what I already have.

[prisma forge]

I started in the northern forest where there are four pure iron nodes. I calculated what would take to make Reinforced Iron Plates, Rotors and Bolted Frames. I CAN HAVE THREE ASSEMBLERS OF EACH AND WILL STILL HAVE A BUNCH OF IRON LEFT

[zenith pecan]

Not sure I'd manage this with coal #satisfactory-experimental message , this is rocket fuel.

Build a trio of half kilometre towers in the blue crater to generate 1.1Tw of power maybe ? 😛

[prisma forge]

I've been there already lol. I completed all the way to fourth phase, just didn't finish the fifth

[zenith pecan]

Routing 4800 sulphur sucked.

To scale the power more, I'd need a mountain of somersloops, I already have more than normal due to a patch respawning them all.

[frozen cloud]

thats a lot of power

[zenith pecan]

The bauxite highway will be back when I route all of it.

My old one was a disaster of poor numbers and loads of water issues.

[prisma forge]

I really need to start using blueprints bruh

[bitter crow]

Damn

[prisma forge]

The first rule of the Logistics floor is: You don't enter the logistics floor.
The second rule of the Logistics floor is: You don't enter the logistics floor.

[lime ermine]

Dog better

My dog is Han Solo

That's his name

[static surge]

i'm building a pretty large factory and instead of not having spaghetti, i'm just hiding it all under the factory (like 50% clipping into ground) so it's invisible 😭

looks amazing from above, but if i wanna manage any logistics that goes farther than like 15m i have to go into the floor

[near quarry]

whats the best starting location to pick for flat space and good recourses?

[static surge]

are you asking for map or location in the map

[placid stirrup]

Norhern forest is the least flat, the other locations satisfy that criteria though.

[frozen cloud]

rocky desert is flat
resources are fine

[lament niche]

Checkmate, Hannah. Not only have I found willows you forgot to remove, but also floating geometry near any of the starting locations >:D
#screenshots message

your wot

[novel jacinth]

i made something extremely dumb in #fan-art

[wind cliff]

guys how do auto connect work :S

[lament niche]

#rules message sir this is an english only server

[velvet lance]

did they ever announce a release date for 1.1 onto the main game yet or its still tbd

[reef basin]

the third rule is: you don't build logistic floor

[latent prawn]

i know you were being funny, but in all seriousness, i've almost entirely eliminated dedicated logistics floors in favor of just doing the beltwork on the ceiling of the next floor down

[frozen ingot]

yeah i do that a lot these days

i'd do logistics floors for a pure aesthetic build but they can be troublesome and fiddly

[reef basin]

I'm not being funny. Logistic floors are meh. Much nicer to see all the beltwork and pipework 🙂

[latent prawn]

i'm a big fan of leaving it all exposed, yeah

[frozen ingot]

yeah done neatly it's beauty in itself

[lament niche]

this is the way.

[latent prawn]

logistics floors were so much a update 4-5 sort of way of building

[frozen ingot]

vertical conveyors kinda made them neater

which was earlier, iirc

[latent prawn]

i'm not using those much yet in 1.1

[frozen ingot]

i can remember when they weren't in the game

conveyor spirals, anyone? 😆

[latent prawn]

the vert splitters are of limited use if you are doing complex things

[lament niche]

I still occasionally use conveyor spirals for aesthetics

[latent prawn]

yeah, they're still cool as decorative element

[lament niche]

, e.g. if I want a factory to look cooler than it is, I'll use conveyor spirals instead of lifts

[static gyro]

amazing game

[sullen gull]

What would be the best way to post an image to a post on the questions.satisfactory site?

[gritty marsh]

I love looking at my belt work since I always put a lot of effort into making it nice

[sullen gull]

Nevermind. Just saw the side bit on the site

[frozen ingot]

imgur link maybe?

or post it here in #screenshots and get the link

[gritty marsh]

I love trying to undo something on SCIM and it just freezing

[velvet lance]

why did they remove green power slugs btw 😔

[reef basin]

they didn't

they recolored them

[velvet lance]

same thing basiclly

[reef basin]

so that they are more distinguishable

[oblique hound]

according to snutt i think it was for colorblindness, but ironically as a colorblind person the blue is harder to tell apart from purple than the green ever was from yellow :/

depends on type i guess 🤷

[lament niche]

why do you keep reposting this?

[leaden ether]

Is there a polite way of nudging those land whales out of the way? Kudos to the programmes, they worked hard to make sure they would stand exactly wher eyou want to work 🙂

Yeah... I guess being so big it wouldn't hurt that much -.-

[frozen cloud]

theyre fiiiiiiine

[lime ermine]

It's called a nobelisk

[leaden ether]

This one must have his flipper foot caugh in the scaffolding or something 😦

[visual void]

don't say that anywhere else xD

[latent prawn]

haha

[ivory igloo]

what teir do i need to be to unlock roads

[crisp forge]

Anyone ever asked if they could do converter director. If you flip a switch that could be mounted somewhere else or left on the belt or whatever. It would switch belt pathing.

Somewhat niche but for example I want alien protein. Belt goes left. I want dna it goes right. But I can just dump all the bodies into a bin, flip a switch and decide which end results I'm getting in the moment.

[placid stirrup]

That's a smart splitter

[oblique hound]

now that priority mergers exist you can do that, just some power switches, packagers, countless smart splitters, and hours of pain!

[boreal musk]

u dont, u make your own road or use the natural one

[ivory igloo]

what peice do i use to look like a road floor

[frozen cloud]

wait how
something like blocking a belt with canisters?

[oblique hound]

yep

[boreal musk]

if u want to make ur own road, go to awesome shop in customizer tab

[summer hemlock]

whats up with the satisfactory qa website

nvm

wasnt sure what the "hehe" status was

[leaden ether]

THis is weird, I drove my trackter into a cave and then got off and went ahead on foot a little and tried to get something but got killed by gas. When I went back, the tractor wasn't there, Turns out it had re-rezzed vertically ontop of the landscape but in the exact x/y position I left it in the cave.

[latent prawn]

base building in tier 1 - roads are really just foundations

in terms of making them look like asphault, you need the awesome shop style customization which can also be unlocked rather early on, but you still need to unlock a vehicle (tractor) to drive on the roads

[leaden ether]

It would be nice if they added a road feature that worked like the train tracks or belts.

[latent prawn]

i think there's some error correction code in the game that makes vehicles that are under foundations teleport on top

[rapid valve]

I am so glad they got rid of paint canisters

[rapid valve]

in the trash where they belong

[fast dew]

Need help with the railroad again. I know that block signs (on the screens) block the track for other trains on the route, if there is already a train between the two (ie they create a “block” zone). But the situation is as follows - the signs let a train into their “block” zone, but do not let it out of it until another train approaches the first “entrance” sign. What can be the problem?

#screenshots message

[median comet]

Are there any other signals on the rest of the rail loop?

Or jsut the 2 in the screenshots

[fast dew]

It's the only place where there are signals because it's the only station where multiple trains intersect

[median comet]

Then you only have 2 blocks,

The small section of track you have signalled up is one block

The ENTIRE rest of the rail loop is another

So the one inside the block is like “there’s a train inside this block” (any other train anywhere on the loop)

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-eric-cartman-god-fucking-damnit-god-damn-it-pissed-gif-5412135

[median comet]

It seems from that behaviour satisfactory has a feature where it will consider a train to be out of a block if it approaches the next one

[fast dew]

Okay, then how do we adequately separate them? There are 2 railroad tracks from different unconnected lines, which converge before the station, and diverge immediately after it

[carmine beacon]

anyone knows of a way to disable the hammer icon in building mode? i am tearing my hair apart as i cannot find any solution.
-no mods (i'm playing 1.1 but even on 1.0 there's not a lot i think),
-no console commands, maybe something in the .ini?
-no options in the menus
-the only thing is the keybind "hide hud" which works... except for the crosshair.

[iron kraken]

You cant

[lost shell]

Is it normal for satisfactory to get a bit stuttery as you start to build a lot of factories

[leaden turret]

yes

[median comet]

Just add more

Signals dont only need to be where intersections happen

Just be aware that any time you make a signal a train cannot pass it until the block it creates is free of all trains

[leaden turret]

@void gorge question for next week's stream; was the prototype of roads done with or without signals? If buildable roads get re-visited, will they come with functional traffic lights & "give way" signs?

[orchid coral]

Ciao! C’è qualche italiano che ha voglia di giocare a Satisfactory insieme a me?
Mi servirebbe una mano: sono praticamente alla fine del gioco e da solo faccio fatica a gestire tutto.
Volendo, potremmo anche creare un nuovo mondo e giocarci insieme da zero!
P.S. Sono un pro player, quindi posso dare una grossa mano anche a chi è alle prime armi 😉

[leaden turret]

a) english-only server (because moderators can't moderate what they don't understand) #rules
b) #1201555265942724758

[ornate cedar]

Uhhh

ig my multiplayer just broke lmao

I can't join my friends world, even though he has the multiplayer on and everything, I still can't even see him in the satisfactory join world ui

I can't join him through steam or session ID either

no error code, no nothing

[green fiber]

Is your friend by any chance on experimental and you are not?

You can. Just check #math-and-meta for my last messages on mk 2 pipes and junctions

[wanton blaze]

Nu, don't have sf installed.

[elfin trellis]

docking stations bugged in experimental? cant unload cargo

docking stations and trucks are bugged bro this is so sad

[ivory condor]

I have sf installed but you don't want me to play with you because i bring chaos

i have a few guesses on where some might be hmmm

Do not loop the sloops, many temples burned

[elfin trellis]

nobody else having issues with unloading and kloading caargo? works after 10 tries with different things

[inner charm]

anyone having an issue where i tab into the game it freezes but when i tab out it fully works or just me?

just launched the game in the main menu

could the steam overlay be doing this?

cause when i lauch a game it freezes for a second

what do you mean by what else is there

Well I’m currently updating drivers to see if that help then I’ll do the qa site

And now my pc is having a hard time installing drivers amazing

could be but never had an issue before i tried playing this game lmao

i have amd cpu and nvida card

And I just went to restart my pc to see what happenes and it siad steam was preventing my pc to restart I wonder what it was doing

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @unborn gyro

[inner charm]

how would i check what version im on

im on steam no installed betas

alr thx

can i not upload a video to the website?

posted

hopefully it wont take too long cause i wanna play lmao

[zenith pecan]

I decided to move my power amplification station from the dunes afterall.

[inner charm]

yep

yea hopefully

[crude canyon]

I wonder how doing things vertical would be like

[zenith pecan]

When I get back to my power station, I'll show you 😛

[crude canyon]

cause like, you need to put floors every time, without bps

[inner charm]

fair enough just about waiting now

yep

it does

[ivory condor]

why, you killed all your doggos again?

and josh had to show us the alternative way to get rid of waste

[zenith pecan]

Here you go #screenshots message , power in three modest towers that just happen to be 600m tall.

[crude canyon]

it looks good

[zenith pecan]

Just over one stack, I was bombing poison flower things,

[zenith pecan]

The outer curtain wall is incomplete, as are the walkways on the bottom most levels above the water, it's a huge work in progress but it is running and outputs quite alot of power.

[crude canyon]

i normally don't try to make things look good

im more interested if the place feels good to use

[zenith pecan]

I've done hurried runs, I'm building something colossal, so its aesthetics kind of count to me, plus it pushes out 1.1Tw so I'd say it is a pretty permanent place.

Eventually this one will be ready to share 😛

[crude canyon]

how do you go up?

doesn't it take a long time?

[ivory condor]

I have one of Zula's old saves, but that is from a while ago

[zenith pecan]

Initially, just build a vertical wall and stud it with power, then just float around building.

Same as the underground bit, you go down through the ground.

Ben also had a copy of my save 😛

[lost shell]

If i wanted to send my game save file so they could like look around what i have done what file would i send

[zenith pecan]

The gains were because of the object changes, remember my tunnel network was comprised of more than half a million foundations and 40-50,000 signs for lighting.

The foundations were changed from full entities to data only things.

[ivory condor]

foundations are now lightweight objects, use much less memory and easier to render

[zenith pecan]

I didn't start until update 3 and the steam release.

You couldn't pay me to use epic.

[lost shell]

wat

[zenith pecan]

Taking a break from building, and finishing re-farming sloops and cassettes.

[ivory condor]

rip lake shark

[zenith pecan]

At this rate I'll run out of nobelisks, I never rebuilt the bomb factory, however there is the old ficsmas plant, there are around 300,000 snowballs there 😄

The nukes, I've never made, not even once.

With the way I haphazardly toss explosives around, I'll probably end up blasting myself.

Well, you do have a rough primer on how to start tunnels 😛

Coal! ты что ебанутый? 🤣

Yeah I wouldn't end game on that, no thankyou!

Nope,, just an englishman with a half learned second language 😛

I need a decent set of custom keycaps for my keyboard though, blind typing when I switch between scripts sucks.

Having both latin & cyrillic has its perks, some of my passwords are a complete nightmare when I can use both 😄

With the challenges I've faced learning the russian language though, I quickly learned respect for those people who speak multiple languages fluently.

Inspired by greek.

Politics don't influence my fascination with the langage itself, but yeah, back to the game 😄

My collection of slugs is growing!

I have so many shards due to slooping the machine processing slugs.

I avoided politics hard even when discussing language, dw about it, hmm, I've picked this sloop up three times now!

Cannot be destroyed!

[reef basin]

you cannot "suck at mk2 pipes"
you either suck at pipes or you don't

pipes can't really be balanced

[zenith pecan]

Tools has been an absolute godsend, my previous approach involved actual notepads.

[reef basin]

what if Tools had integrated notepad

[zenith pecan]

I mean an actual physical notepad 😛 , hard to get pen and paper to play nice with a program.

How'd that work out, I was born in the middle of England 😛

[digital depot]

@knotty mason better answer here if you got the urge to answer 😄

[knotty mason]

😂 I swear nothing works

Ive replaced the catwalks with the modern ones so it no longer clips

it annoyed me too

[digital depot]

may use a 1m Foundation to raise it a little

then do the walkway arround

[zenith pecan]

god I can be dense at times, I just tried picking up a bloody hatcher and got my clock cleaned, my brain said mercer sphere 🤦‍♂️

[knotty mason]

i thought that said ' as a god i can be dense sometimes' 😂

[zenith pecan]

Second typo I missed, corrected now.

[knotty mason]

the modern walkways fixed it anyways because they don't extend down as much

[zenith pecan]

Eh? 🤷‍♂️

What even is a xee, and how is it powerful?

Who?

Naa, while my relationship is unfortunately long range due to both of us having life commitments, still 14 years has done well enough when we get together as often as we can 😛

[oblique sandal]

speakin of which ur meant to be at mine tomorrow 😄

[zenith pecan]

!

Hitting the DM's with little miss volatile here.

[cursive crane]

Pioneer relations?
When theres factories to be built?

[oblique sandal]

oi!

[reef basin]

that's what you do in the relationship 🙂

[oblique sandal]

no u wouldnt cuz hes mine! ~toodles

[unkempt blade]

I'm teaching my cat to play satis so he can actually contribute to the family and stop being such a freeloader

the dog already knows the iron supply chains so we're getting there

there's #1201555265942724758 channel to find people to play with

[spice patio]

To the InterNets?

[reef basin]

there isn't indeed

[unkempt blade]

indeedn't

[viscid crest]

I got a question regarding mods. Is there a mod that like adds more tiers to everything? with new ores

[oblique sandal]

yeah no discuss pirate

stop there hun unless ur wantin to get banhammered

[reef basin]

[oblique sandal]

thx <@&387163995947270144>

[unkempt blade]

made to walk the plank

arrr he's swimming with the sharks now

[ocean frost]

There is an overhaul mod

[bitter crow]

Gill i need your help with coal gen

[ocean frost]

Sure

[bitter crow]

can i dm u?

[ocean frost]

Sure

[viral ocean]

yall know how many alternate recipes there are by t6? im trying to get the hor alt and cant seem to.

[reef basin]

"by T6" is kinda ambiguous, but you can check wiki for unlock requirements

[viral ocean]

got it, thx

think im like 10 hard drives in

[real wolf]

hello

[real wolf]

like 50

[onyx shuttle]

will i get steam achivements if i dont use AGS but use mods?

[spice patio]

Yes

Only AGS disables them.
Save editing or mods don't.

[onyx shuttle]

nice i ll use cheap power shards

[reef basin]

power shards are already cheap 😄

[onyx shuttle]

wanna overclock basically everything to protect potato laptop

[red sun]

i honestly nearly never use power shards

[red sun]

just means you'll need a shit ton more power generation that your potato laptop will have to deal with

[onyx shuttle]

nuclear power baby

its just 32% more power per item

3.33/2.5

[gritty field]

anyone else have the issue on expirimental that your character shutters for a few seconds every like 10/15 seconds?

doesnt matter if i'm walking or flying/hovering.

Didn't have any issues yesterday till today it updated to 1.1.0.3

[candid moon]

Hi all. I am a 200h noob, close to addiction, and started to get more and more into the aesthetics and automation of the game.
I am trying to move my head around moving out of the spaghetti-era of my Satisfactory towards a more organized conveyor life. What is your "one pro tip" you would give on this?

Also, I am really not sure how to work my way around the sushi table of having mats "go around" and be split off nicely (It is working... ish :p ), and are there any (central?)storage blueprints you strongly suggest trying out? I am looking on the https://satisfactory-calculator.com/ but I struggle to visualize how I get them to fit in nicely to be honest. Thanks in advance!

[real wolf]

#screenshots message all the white is the "marble"

[scenic osprey]

start with the end product of what you want to build at a certain factory and work backwards to plan it is the main one. kind of included in that is "don't try to build a factory that does everything by the seat of your pants"

beyond that, focus on building compact and neat factories and use verticality. there are like a million little things and details in each of these principles but that is a good place to start

[real wolf]

just make your own tbh (imo)

[scenic osprey]

also overbuild your power supply and overclock everything you can to reduce the number of machines if you really want to keep it neat

yes building your own blueprints you will learn a bajillion times faster how to do better at this! worth it

[hidden sparrow]

I think thats a low ram issue

[candid moon]

Thanks! I have sort of started doing it like that now, so I can make sections look nice. Then suddenly a need for a split comes, and BAM the kitchen gets unclean :p

[candid moon]

Sure, but I am not even sure how I want it to work, that is my main struggle

[scenic osprey]

rather than a split maybe find a location that has everything you need for the next step and build a nice clean setup there and then tie them together with trains or whatever later

i am going thru the map right now plotting out my second playthrough this way to avoid this very issue lol

"ok when i need batteries, here is where i'll go to make them" vs "i'll take crap from here and move it over to this thing and make some batteries from them"

[candid moon]

I have completed all stages, so now I am more into the satisfaction part of the game, so it is more about finding out how to make it look nicer.

[scenic osprey]

this is way harder to do if you haven't completed the game and dont know what exactly you will need

[candid moon]

I guess

[scenic osprey]

oh nice

[reef basin]

personally I don't think central storage is needed, since we have dimensional depots

[real wolf]

well if youre making a storage system have it on a sushi belt with smart splitters that sort the items but have the middle one as overflow

[candid moon]

I went "hardcore" for a few days and completed first round at about 145h mark. I think that was ok for someone who is not naturally that aesthetic or overly creative (until practiced). I am a very hands-on person, "fast and dirty", so this is a good exercise for life 😄

[scenic osprey]

yeah i will be prioritizing dimensional depot research over storage this time around for sure. its so much easier

[shrewd palm]

straight build mode

and avoid clipping at all costs if you can help it

[candid moon]

ok, I am trying to write my understanding / take from that.
Create a sushi belt that goes "all over to collect things", bring it to storage units that is connected to all places that needs it, keep an overflow line (with sink?)

[candid moon]

clipping only has aesthetics drawbacks, right?

[shrewd palm]

yes

[candid moon]

Which I guess is the worst in terms of satisfaction :p

[leaden turret]

depends on if you consider "the sanity of strangers on the internet" as "aesthetics" 😛

[reef basin]

why the need for sushi?

[static surge]

200h noob?

how does that work

[scenic osprey]

sushi i guess depends on exactly how many different items you're bringing in

[real wolf]

real

[golden nexus]

200h is often in "first playthough" so they are a beginner

[scenic osprey]

if you're talking about making a huge central storage mall for everything i would do it in a few different chunks of sushi belts

[white dawn]

I went pretty heavy on sushi on my 1.0 playthrough. For my own central storage -- which I doggedly continue to build 'cause I enjoy it, even though we've got Depots now -- I'd have sushi deliveries from vehicles/trains/drones getting sorted into different sushi "lanes" depending on what level of my storage they were going to, etc. :D

[candid moon]

I think I was quite honest on my 200h noob 🙂

[golden nexus]

You also get 1000h noobs but.. hey...

[static surge]

200 hours is a beginner 😭 then what am I with 54

[white dawn]

Getting the buffering right is important; you don't want any single step of the sorting process to inadvertantly slow down any other part; each sushi belt needs to be guaranteed to be able to run at full speed (well, depending on how close you're getting to your belt limits, anyway -- obviously if there's not a lot on the belts then it might not matter)

[scenic osprey]

floor one, iron, copper and cement. floor 2, steel and quartz. floor 3, oil-based and computer products etc

[golden nexus]

beginner

[hybrid crystal]

Do I need to buffer on the output of a fluid freight platform?

[candid moon]

That sound sane and practical!

[static surge]

Can you keep playing after you beat the game?

[shrewd palm]

yes

[candid moon]

you have marely obtained the addiction!

[white dawn]

Oh yeah, just becomes "pure" sandbox at that point

[static surge]

k

but you don't have any motivation to keep playing in the same world though

[golden nexus]

i even saw one of the youtube guys... who had 2000+ hours suddenly realise oh.. you can't build it this way.. "I am such a noob and this is so much easier" cause the time played is oftent he same style over and over rather than trying new / different things without learning

[white dawn]

Heh, it worked well despite being silly

[candid moon]

it is only one world. just 4 diff starting points. After you complete the last phase, the satisfaction begins

[scenic osprey]

i started over twice after i had big aha moments

[static surge]

wait really?

[reef basin]

I would do it separate per item, or just use depots instead

[scenic osprey]

i would as well greeny

[golden nexus]

yes theres only one map... and your only getting this on 50h?

[static surge]

I dont watch any videos on the game so idk

[scenic osprey]

but for the sake of suggesting things that will help sunsun1g accomplish his goal that's what i would suggest

[white dawn]

Well, really just depends on how you, personally, feel about pure-sandbox type games. For some folks that's where the "real" game is at. I admit that for myself I tend to lose interest once the game-given goals are all finished up. I generally have a few things left on my own checklist after finishing the game, but for me at least, once I finish those up, I tend to call it a day for that save

[golden nexus]

scim is the map mentioned here a lot....

[candid moon]

Appreciate it man

[static surge]

don't use scim either, save editing is cheating imo

[scenic osprey]

my central storage design sunsun, if i can describe it without drawing it lol

[golden nexus]

you don't need to do save edit to use it as reference map

Save editing is 1 of 100's of features

[scenic osprey]

big rectangle with a couple foundations worth of space between the wall/edge and the input of your industrial storage containers

[static surge]

yeah i just prefer to explore

[scenic osprey]

one "drop off" area where you dump whatever needs to get stored

[golden nexus]

you can also tell when playing with others when they have watched certain youtube video's cause their playstyle and demands are often based on the guide narrative (often badly broken ones)

[scenic osprey]

from there, it sends it on a belt that runs along the back of all these storage containers with smart splitters. let's say the storage containers are all on the left side of the sushi belt

[golden nexus]

thats quite common in complex games because the youube videos are done for click and are oftena repeat of each other rather than a deep understanding of the game its self

[scenic osprey]

you would set up your splitters

L - item to be stored
M - overflow
R - none

and then at the end of the sushi belt line, an awesome sink. so once your storage containers are full, stuff will stop going into them and remain on the sushi belt via the overflow mechanic and eventually get dumped for tickets

[white dawn]

I prefer to follow my own badly-broken playstyle narratives! :D

[golden nexus]

its optimal for you 😛

[golden nexus]

I play stationeers as well. And people who follow the guides from youtube often hit a wall sooner or later or are badly restrcited to the limits of hte guide its self. Its quite odd to see actually

[scenic osprey]

the dimensional depot theory that gets rid of central storage for things like cement and beams and other basic building crap is you have factories wherever you want that are pumping things into the DD at all times, and when you use materials they will refill as you go

for cement i usually have two dd's getting filled at all times because it is very easy when you're going HAM to burn thru cement faster than 1 DD can refill it

[toxic lichen]

huh?

[golden nexus]

Have you finished the game? How long did it take you?

[random wasp]

Fact check status: what the fuck?

[toxic lichen]

180 hours to 100%

[white dawn]

Yeah; IMO even two is likely to be too few for concrete, eventually. I think I ended up with six on my 1.0 playthrough and even then my nuclear buildout blueprints were slightly outstripping those

[golden nexus]

Right so ... nearly 200h... which means you managed "one playthough"

[shrewd palm]

me with 360 and i havent finished one

[red sun]

counterpoint: calling someone a "noob" at a sandbox game is completely pointless

[toxic lichen]

wouldnt call that a beginner tho

[red sun]

some people like to take their time, doesn't make them a noob

[golden nexus]

on average it does

[red sun]

eh?

[toxic lichen]

sorry to hear about ur troubles, dont project tho

[red sun]

honestly calling someone a noob at a primarily singleplayer sandbox game just sounds like you're trying to gatekeep

[golden nexus]

Sorry you guys don't understand what "On average" actually means.... or the concept of an average player

[toxic lichen]

the average player isnt braindead

[red sun]

why can we not just let people play the game the way they want

crazy idea i know

[golden nexus]

whos stopping them?

[drowsy surge]

Is there a way to kill those pesky toxic plants?

[white dawn]

Explosives -- find some sulfur and start researching in the MAM

[drowsy surge]

Thankfully I already have it

[golden nexus]

You fail to understand.. its just an indication they they are still in the beginner phases of certain things... theres nothing wrong with that... its a normal pattern people go though when learning something..... you seem to be trying to say that somebody is going to be an "instant expert" for all things in the game or something.. when they are not... they can't possbile be.. the average person simply doesn't learn that fast....

In fact what your stating is the typical early part pf dunning kruger effect....

[drowsy surge]

Does explosives destroy buildings?

[shrewd palm]

no

just gas flowers, fart rocks, certain rocks (they have cracks in them), and animals

[red sun]

being a "noob" is subjective. trying to quantify it with "if you've played for less than 200 hours" or some shit like that makes no sense

[toxic lichen]

i aint readin allat

[red sun]

you're a noob if you're still learning the game

[golden nexus]

Yeah this statement shows you don't understand that game 😉

that is a nice demonstration of the dunning kruger effect

[sick agate]

1.1 is actually the "Ada judges your asthetic abilites" update

[livid cloud]

Can't judge them if I don't have any

[red sun]

did you just learn what the dunning kruger effect is and are now using it in every other message lmao

[drowsy surge]

bruh I need ||mercer spheres|| to make ||dimensional depots|| (idk if I should spoiler it or not)

[livid cloud]

yes

[drowsy surge]

Are those farmable or just collectable?

[livid cloud]

Collectables, like slugs just less in world

[red sun]

only collectable, there's a limited amount scattered around the map

there's more than enough though - the trouble is finding them

[drowsy surge]

Do they have other uses?

[shrewd palm]

how many is there?

like 150/300?

[red sun]

i believe around 200 but i'm not sure

[livid cloud]

Just depot's and upgrades for depots in mam

[red sun]

slightly more than there are sloops

[shrewd palm]

just depoit and stuff related

[golden nexus]

this is incorrect

[golden nexus]

There 298 spheres and 106 sloops

[drowsy surge]

Ok, thx!

[shrewd palm]

ty

[red sun]

...more spheres than sloops

which you just said was incorrect lmao

[golden nexus]

By a factor of 2.8 isn't "slightly"

[livid cloud]

I'm guessing they're saying the slightly is incorrect

[red sun]

holy shit in that case you're slightly pedantic

[golden nexus]

Slight is having 100 and there being ~120

[terse venture]

mow

[livid cloud]

mow

[red sun]

man alive you're fun at parties i'm sure

[boreal musk]

298 mercer, 106 sloops and over 5k power shards worth of slugs (slooped)

[livid cloud]

Why go to a party when you can Satisfactory

[tardy basin]

triple is not slightly lol

[golden nexus]

no you just didn't know the answer, or know how t o find the answer because your an "exprt beginner"

and now half the channel is calling you on it....

[red sun]

my bad for not having the location and quantity of every sloop and sphere in the game etched into my consciousness

[tardy basin]

its just 5 second google

[golden nexus]

Exactly...

[livid cloud]

So how's everyone's day

[red sun]

i literally said in my message i wasn't sure but alr

[golden nexus]

So you prefer to be over confident in an incorrect answer and feed false information instead....

[red sun]

^^^^^^

[tardy basin]

the dunning kruger effect in real time

[red sun]

using a word like slightly is spreading false information???

exqueeeeze me?

[golden nexus]

Was about to say. This is the 3rd time they have demonstrated it in 10 minutes lol

[red sun]

you're demonstrating being a douche

[tardy basin]

we just corrected you, is that douche for fact checking? sounds like some one orange stain

[golden nexus]

Of course the first thing that also applied to somebody in the dunning kruger effect is they don't know they are in the gunning kruger effect and when called on it will immediately result to personal insults because its the only thing they have left...... but in reality this actually results in the person showing their true failure

the true failure being an inability to accept they gave wrong information and go with the correction of which multiple people are providing

[red sun]

i used the word slightly and you made it out that that invalidated my entire point, even after i said that i wasn't sure.
it wasn't wrong information. yes i shouldn't have used the word slightly but that doesn't mean that i was totally incorrect

anyway i have better things to do

have a nice day yall

[tardy basin]

you are literally in server full of engineers, mathematicians, nerds and people who love to design factories, you thought we wouldnt correct your perception on ratio?

[zenith pecan]

What did I just log back into?

[tardy basin]

just some dunning kruger happened

[golden nexus]

Real time demonstration of the dunning kruger effect

[zenith pecan]

Overestimation of ones own abilities is a real horror for sure.

On an unrelated note, do doggos respawn after time?

[green fiber]

*easy solution: always doubt yourself! *

[golden nexus]

yes

[zenith pecan]

Brilliant!, I've been using their demise to clear unwanted respawns of spheres/sloops because they cannot be destroyed.

[green fiber]

use the toilet. its much funnier

and it angers ADA

[zenith pecan]

Very slow for cleaning up on full stacks alas, but usable.

[tardy basin]

wait you can flush sloop and sphere and that pisses off ada? til lmao

[green fiber]

yes

There is nothing the toilet cannot destroy flush

[tardy basin]

i assumed so but didnt know on ada

[golden nexus]

can you flush a doggo?

[green fiber]

Im just gonna say yes to that

[zenith pecan]

I'm not opposed to some extras, but my entire map has respawned them all twice, and that is particularly egregious, so the overload is gradually being eliminated.

[tardy basin]

bro i got scammed

i flushed sloop and nothing happened

[reef basin]

not true, you lost the sloop 😛

[tardy basin]

at least i got reload 😉

[green fiber]

im sure ADA is seething. But it did work, didnt it?

[tardy basin]

yeah it indeed flushed both

[red sun]

the shitter consumes all

including the chat apparently

[green fiber]

down the drain it goes

[drowsy surge]

When does one unlock computers?

[quick meteor]

I have a 5 year old world and I think it’s screwed - power draw must’ve changed in something because my power draw is 5k and I don’t have the facilities to keep up with it

[tardy basin]

research caterium

[drowsy surge]

oh, ok

[green fiber]

or just get to oil

[quick meteor]

I might need to full on restart, which sucks bc this world has about 200 hours in it

[drowsy surge]

Everything just pushing me to complete phase 2

[reef basin]

you can always disconnect a few factories and build more power

[tardy basin]

caterium easier than oil but do whatever you feel like

[green fiber]

the switch to 1.0 brought about a change in fuel generator clocking and also in their power output (and in turn fuel usage)
if you have a lot of fuel gens, they are likely all sipping the fuel pipe dry now and thus idling more often

[shrewd palm]

the ratios for this factory are so annoying

[red sun]

pretty much every factory can have their numbers juggled around to get friendlier ratios

[tardy basin]

or do sections

[green fiber]

every ratio is friendly

[red sun]

i'm sure you can make it work

[tardy basin]

also you need to unlock tier 6 for computer

[red sun]

if you're a madman sure

[shrewd palm]

im doing heavy modular frames with the default recipe

[drowsy surge]

But I need plastic first, which I suppose needs oil?

[green fiber]

the ratio is
your sanity : 1 HMF

[red sun]

sounds legit

[golden nexus]

yes

[shrewd palm]

4800 iron is only giving me ~20/min but the ratios to make this work with only iron and a little bit of coal is so annoying

[tardy basin]

all math is friendly, if you feel intimidated by math, its just skill issues

[tardy basin]

true

[shrewd palm]

me sanity is slipping with these steel pipes

[golden nexus]

or your not doing difficult enough math :S

[tardy basin]

just use fractions

[placid stirrup]

e^-1/xcuse me?

[tardy basin]

or just be good with math

its just simple algebra

[wanton veldt]

Has anyone noticed the foot of the Extractor in the menu screen scene is floating off the ground, and the whole thing has no shadow? Vampire Extractor?

[drowsy surge]

Stacking hypertube entrances is so cool

[shrewd palm]

i think the problem is just that im not putting full belts into blueprints that were design for full belts

and because the input is weird so is the output

i think its just a skill issue

[golden nexus]

what recipie?

[shrewd palm]

default

for steel pipes

[scenic osprey]

there is a tidy mathematical solution at almost every step. some require alternate recipes and overclocking but it's attainable!

[golden nexus]

but are you using solid steel or anything?

[shrewd palm]

i think i figured it out

goes to show how 1 miscalculation at the start throws everything off ig

[shrewd palm]

yes

[red sun]

good fun

[azure reef]

is ver 1.1 stable?

[placid stirrup]

it's experimental

[red sun]

nope, that's why it's still in experimental

for the most part it works* though

[golden nexus]

So you get 40 coal/iron -> 60 ingot -> 40 pipe... you get out what you put in for pipes

[tardy basin]

I guess he need some recipe that inputs like 37 or something, just match that number, if you dont like math percentages, just put in parts produced

[shrewd palm]

im just going to put these into a manifold and hope everything works out

if steel:pipe is 3:2
that means that 1980 -> 1320
and that much is whats going in but not coming out of the blueprint

and there should be enough constructors for 2880 steel

[split badger]

oh yeah i finally found my dismantle crate

it spawned in a part of the map i havent even explored yet... ಠ_ಠ

[tardy basin]

is it 0,0,0

[static surge]

per min?

[shrewd palm]

yes

my aluminum factory has desensitized me to big numbers

[near bay]

I have a question, the input rate of the dimensional depot is global or is it per uploader? Like if I connect one to my encased beam factory and upload 240/min can I upload anything else from elsewhere or the inventory?

[golden nexus]

per uploader

but the size is global

[near bay]

Oh, ty so much. I want to hook one up to every usual building item factory so I don't have to worry about running out of iron plates or something when building.

[golden nexus]

there is more spheres than items for this reason as well

[gritty field]

Can you load a new save on a old version on a dedicated server?

1.1.0.3 seems to be abit buggy with stuttering for me but when I try to load my save from that one back to 1.0 it wont upload the server

[drowsy surge]

The tickets in the sink synchronize, right?

[placid stirrup]

Aye

[drowsy surge]

ok

[spiral badger]

Any oil extractor pros in here? I'm having an issue with flow rates and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

[placid stirrup]

#1038092680493801533 post or search through them for pipes, also the pipe manual in #math-and-meta

[languid lance]

super quick question

when in the building menu, what does it mean when it turns yellow?

obstruction? does it have any negative effects?

[south sinew]

It doesn't impact gameplay directly but may make it hard to figure out if things are correct

Because you can't see what's happening due to the clipping

[golden nexus]

clipping its like you gety a soft(yellow) hard(red) clipping / overlap system

[south sinew]

I'd generally say not to worry about it if you can see what's up

[languid lance]

good to know

[golden nexus]

sometimes the clipping makes sense like a wall overlapping an existing power connector and sometimes its just broken eg a belt stright though the middle of a machine

[languid lance]

ty

[bitter dune]

helo

anyone here?

i have a problem with my game, i was just wondering if someone could help me

[leaden ether]

Best just to ask the question, if someone knows they'll answer

[bitter dune]

alr

[jaunty jewel]

even better to ask in #1038092680493801533 , much more likely to be seen and answered by someone who knows what theyre talking about

[bitter dune]

well it says the message is really big i cant even send it

[leaden turret]

all the more reason to post in #1038092680493801533 cos then your post can be summarised then split over multiple messages

[split badger]

yes

[tardy basin]

then its bugged, only way to remove it is from scim map

[split badger]

scim?

[placid stirrup]

Scientology creationist imperceptible master

[white dawn]

Sociologists Can't Intimidate Marmots

[foggy ibex]

anyone else mainly use tractors and trucks for logistics? I set up an entire road infrastructure for it, never got deep into trains

my question is, what do you prefer to use for fuel? right now i'm just using coal

[white dawn]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[white dawn]

I always add in trains (and later drones) once I unlock 'em, but I do continue to add the occasional vehicle route where it's sensible to do so, even into the lategame. I'm quite fond of tractors specifically

Coal is a surprisingly good fuel for them, for sure. I tend to switch them over to using Packaged Fuel once I have that unlocked; in general I don't tend to fuel them with anything beyond that

[foggy ibex]

I've spent countless hours on just tractors, even though I have trains unlocked. They're just cool!

[white dawn]

Packaged Fuel lets you do routes which are honestly sort of at the edge of feasibility for 'em (by my own personal metrics, anyway), so I've never really had the impulse to do more "advanced" fuels

[foggy ibex]

I have hundreds of hours on my current world just building infrastructure and blueprints, I am yet to progress past T3 lol

[white dawn]

If I happen to want a route that's nearby some other more advanced fuel production I might end up using it there, but I'm unlikely to distribute more than just Packaged Fuel

[foggy ibex]

The way I have it set up right now is that I have several refueling stations, and dedicated tractors to refuel the refuel stations. So location isn't a huge problem

I was thinking of trying turbofuel, but sulfur seems hard to come across

[wet shoal]

Blue crater has a decent amount of it nearby.

But turbofuel is a b*tch

[foggy ibex]

I used up nearly all of the sulfur near my base on a power plant

20k mw

[wet shoal]

You mean 20 GW

[white dawn]

Oh, and I suppose that for late-game vehicle routes I do often just go back to coal for fuel, so long as there's a node handy.

Don't need to use the same fuel on all routes, etc

[wet shoal]

That whole fuel back and forth is the reason I will never use trucks.

To move one thing you need to move two things

[foggy ibex]

fueling has been the biggest challenge with making a truck-centric world

but i'm determined

[white dawn]

Eh, moving fuel around is hardly an issue. Worst-case is you have some separate fuel-delivery trucks

[wet shoal]

Do you use blenders for diluted fuel?

[foggy ibex]

that has been my solution, dedicated fuel delivery

[foggy ibex]

don't know what a blender is!

probably unlocked later

[wet shoal]

rip

[golden nexus]

However using trains remove fuel completely it just becomes a powr problem and the trains also run power as part of the system for you

Drones later use fuel but its often just using them temporarylly and then replacing them with a train when suitable

[white dawn]

Heh, I don't think I've ever replaced a logistics line with a different solution

[golden nexus]

It prevents your fuel supply requriments from increasing further

[foggy ibex]

yeah trains would probably be more convenient, but I just think the idea of pathfinding trucks are so cool that I gotta use them to their full potential

[white dawn]

My trains stay trains, vehicles stay vehicles

Technically I think fuelling vehicles works out to be more resource-efficient than the equivalent power for trains, though that calculus does require some hand-waving. :D

[golden nexus]

I have many times

[foggy ibex]

also train stations are massive and not easily blueprintable (from what i've experimented with)

[white dawn]

Heh, honestly would never even occur to me. Why remove something that's working great already? :)

[leaden turret]

of course; this is satisfactory, not transformers

[golden nexus]

trains are more efficent especially when they get busy and you start to put in massive delays on the waits at stations etc...

[golden nexus]

Cause reason above.. as you keep expanding your requirments increase in fuel...

[white dawn]

Ah yeah, waits @ stations is something I've still literally never done. I understand the use-case, but it's never interested me.

I wanna see my trains zipping about

[golden nexus]

But at that stage nuclear is normally well operational so it makes sense to convert it to power... or power the drones with plut rods

[foggy ibex]

I gotta use this channel less often, don't want spoilers

[white dawn]

I'd only need to expand fuel production if I'm adding more lines. I'm not gonna tear down an existing one. :)

[golden nexus]

Yeah.. you start using waits when you start running out of track bandwidth

so yeah.. they are not good when grid locked 😛

[white dawn]

(And I rarely have a map-wide fuelling network for vehicles specifically; tends to be pretty ad-hoc. I may have some hubs which share fuel production, but I often keep that pretty distributed)

Drones are a different story, of course, since it doesn't matter where that fuel's being produced

[golden nexus]

yeah but it does matter it is radioactive 😛

drone = plut rod = 0.01 per trip and stuff so a stack of rods is like a week of fuel

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, I'd personally never use radioactive material as vehicle/drone fuel in the first place, so that's not a concern for me. :)

I know it's a pretty popular choice, but I don't like irradiating parts of my world unnecessarily, and I've never felt constrained by the non-radioactive fuels

If I occasionally need two drones where Pu Rods would let me get away with one, I'll live with that

[golden nexus]

you dont get waste from nuclear rods as fuel which is why people use it as a plutonium sink

[foggy ibex]

I'll give packaged fuel a shot, I do have leftover oil. thanks for the advice!

[white dawn]

Right, though as I've said before: If I'm making Pu Rods, I'm getting power out of 'em

Not gonna waste those suckers on logistics

[golden nexus]

yeah its good to have at least a really decent packaged fuel supply of some type (or multiple) eg fuel, biofuel, turbo fuel for just "stuff"

[white dawn]

If fuels were more difficult to make or had severe downsides of their own I might reconsider, but as I say: I've never felt constrained by the other fuels

[foggy ibex]

I don't even have supply for my jetpack set up!

[golden nexus]

yeah.. do biofeul for that btw 😛

[foggy ibex]

doesn't biofuel require manual work

[white dawn]

Yeah, the biomass sources must be hand-collected. Though it's pretty trivial to make more LBF than you'll ever need

[golden nexus]

tiny amounts... but you will see why when you try it in jetpack... each fuel type has different behjaviour

[white dawn]

At that stage of the game I actually recommend keeping both LBF and Packaged Turbofuel in inventory; they're both quite useful as jetpack fuel

[foggy ibex]

I use turbofuel for my jetpack (I have a supply of it that i'm rapidly draining)

it seems to give the most height

[white dawn]

(And even though LBF is the GOAT of long-range-gliding at that stage of the game, I've honestly found that Turbofuel is Good Enough for that purpose nearly all the time)

[foggy ibex]

of the fuels I have unlocked at least

[white dawn]

(And also also, the parachute cuts into LBF functionality quite a bit)

[foggy ibex]

what's LBF?

[white dawn]

Liquid BioFuel

[golden nexus]

its not....

[white dawn]

But yeah, at that stage I'll just always keep a stack of each onhand, and switch 'em out as the situation warrants. They're both quite good

[leaden sage]

What's the point of the per minute of fuel usage in the supported fuel types screen at the drone port? The actual per minute usage is like 33x the stated per minute fuel usage.

[white dawn]

That display's always been a bit weird

The numbers you can trust on the drone port screen are: round-trip time (so long as the drone has made a couple of cycles since loading the game), and fuel-per-trip. The "per minute fuel consumption" gauge is seemingly busted and will always report too high (at least for Batteries)

You can use the first two to find the actual per-minute fuel usage. (Or, if you load the save in SCIM, SCIM does the math properly)

fuel-per-trip is technically a decimal value, btw, so the number you get will be slightly off reality, but will be pretty close

[dull charm]

Quick question. If a vehicle ghosts, does it use fuel?

I'm wondering if my "vehicle teleporter" setup is actually more efficient than I earlier thought.

[white dawn]

For both batteries and packaged rocket fuel, in my experience the per-min fuel usage for drones is nearly always between 2/min and 3/min. Around 2.5/min for batteries average on my last save, and closer to like 2.2, 2.3/min for rocket fuel. Though your exact numbers will depend on route length

[golden nexus]

1 rod per 4 hours 😛

[white dawn]

Sure, at the cost of "this area's getting irradiated, and I'm not getting the power from that Pu Rod." :)

I admit I am coming at it from the perspective of "making batteries or packaged rocket fuel is, essentially, trivial." If one's opinion on that differs, the calculus could be different.

(Though making Pu Rods wouldn't be any less trivial than either of those)

[leaden turret]

🚽

[hidden sparrow]

all im gonna say, Satisfactory is an awesome game for allowing me to have more than 20 fps on this #screenshots message

[white dawn]

Alas, we can only flush, not sit. 😢

[leaden turret]

[c]

gotta squat to make those pu rods

[distant pilot]

What even is all that??

[golden nexus]

super noodle soup

[static surge]

Are those train lines or belts?

[white dawn]

Even worse! #screenshots message :D

[rotund sable]

Did you know, dropping an ant into a glass of water lets you tell its gender.

[hidden sparrow]

factory !

[hidden sparrow]

oh dw its even worst now

[white dawn]

Heh, awesome, would enjoy seeing the progress. :)

[junior laurel]

I love me some progress screenshots!

[hidden sparrow]

lemme boot the game

[hidden sparrow]

im sorry but you'll probably have a stroke

[junior laurel]

Idk if it's just me but when progress posts reply to their last progress post... peak

[junior laurel]

Cute, show me your worst

[hidden sparrow]

Bet.

[junior laurel]

If it doesn't look like a visual representation of my mental health then you can do worse >:]

[hidden sparrow]

theres wildlife in the way rn

[golden nexus]

shoot it

[hidden sparrow]

its the flying thingy

and i dont have any gun ammos, just nukes

[golden nexus]

pet it

[red sun]

shoot it anyway

it won't die but shooting shit is fun

very therapy

[hidden sparrow]

i just nuke lizzard doggos for fun

[junior laurel]

Haha gun

[junior laurel]

Oh...bigger gun

[red sun]

i won't yuck your yum

[junior laurel]

Disclaimer you cannot kill the flying manta

[hidden sparrow]

which is sad

[red sun]

sure won't stop me from trying

[junior laurel]

Land on top of it and ride it like a
checks corners
A kinda manta jockey

[hidden sparrow]

how good are your eyes now ?

[junior laurel]

But does it work? How much down time?

[hidden sparrow]

it mostly works

the 72 nuclear reactors are currently running well

[golden nexus]

need stronger bleach

[junior laurel]

Sounds like me if I had ADHD meds.
Sadly I do not so my mental rep is worse then your factory 7/10 chaos rating.

Honourable

[hidden sparrow]

i mean it doesnt represent a mental well being, it represent pipes pipes pipES PIPES PIPES PIPES

[honest flume]

Any rumored release date for 1.1? I kinda don’t want to start a new factory until that release

[white dawn]

Nope, When It's Ready™

[hidden sparrow]

nah

[hidden sparrow]

oh and dw, once i'll have consumed the entire ground, i will only go upward :)

im sticking in the plain starter biome thingy

[junior laurel]

Yes the upwards is a huge lack in chaos, I believe you!

[hidden sparrow]

oh and also

2 millions nuclear waste thrown in the red forest :)

[junior laurel]

No better place tbh

[hidden sparrow]

i mean i did nuke it clean so ehh

[hidden sparrow]

oh and to let you out on my small little plan im currently doing, maximum plutonium waste creation and 200 AI expentions per minutes when im finished (:

[latent panther]

Anybody here know of any blueprints that are designed to receive ingots instead of ore? Almost all the ones I've seen on SCIM seem to be AIO builds that just take ore, while I'm a tad focused on trying to use the pure ingot recipes wherever possible

[white dawn]

Why not just make your own blueprints that do what you want?

[shrewd palm]

you could make one

[latent panther]

Yeah, I'd love to, but I'm very limited with playtime these days, so it'd good to be find existing blueprints for this purpose

[lime ermine]

Sink

[junior laurel]

Sorry, was busy.
Why stop at plut waste? have ficsonium lamps go around the map :D

[hidden sparrow]

dont have enough sam to do fisc

[junior laurel]

What do you mean?

[junior laurel]

so how am I planning mine to make 112 Ficsonium fuel rods/m?

[hidden sparrow]

im already using almost all the SAM in my world, so i cant convert plutinium waste

[junior laurel]

me shoving sloops into my reanimation process

[hidden sparrow]

i mean i dont have enough sloops in the world to do that 💀

[junior laurel]

How many APAs are you making?

[hidden sparrow]

APAs ?

[junior laurel]

Power augmenters

[hidden sparrow]

oh i think i have 5 around rn

[junior laurel]

Because I wanted 10 but folded to 8, does work better aesthetically

looks at what I played before 1.0
Quite a lot yes

Making things not a box is challenge enough THANK you!

[gilded marsh]

Anyone got a good layout for a nuclear power plant?

[proper hound]

Absolutely.
Build platform on water.
Build generators at edge.
Build extractors in water (5 per plant) and connect them directly to generator.
Optional: Wire each set of water extractors to separate switch in a control room, so you can turn on and off the reactors by cutting water.

[gilded marsh]

Thank you! I will try it!

[proper hound]

[Insert Yoda Clause]

[junior laurel]

I'm good thx

[leaden ether]

Kinda wish there was a "r.fog 0.5"

[red sun]

frue

talse

[celest olive]

Do most folks get hard drives early game since its easier to target unlock certain early alternate recipes before leveling too far?

[red sun]

depends what recipes you want tbh

[white dawn]

IMO probably difficult to judge what the most common paradigm is. Among new players I suspect it's most common to mostly ignore drives until quite late in the game

There's enough to learn and get used to that hard drives and alt recipes probably feel like something that can safely be ignored by a lot of new folks

I'd assume that as players get more experienced (and for folks doing their n+1'th playthrough) they're more likely to be actively grabbing drives (whether to redeem right away, or to just "lock" choices in the hard drive library)

[leaden ether]

Is there a way to select a customizer swatch as the permanent default?

[white dawn]

Though I know that for some players, the exploration angle loses some lustre, so maybe it becomes more common to just AGS-unlock (or SCIM-unlock) recipes directly rather than bothering with drives

[white dawn]

Yep -- right-click on it. :)

[leaden ether]

On the swatch? Doesn't seem to do anything...

Weird it does for all the other swatches but not custom ones?

THanlks, will just switch to editing a standard one

[white dawn]

You say "custom ones" -- are you using a mod which gives you more than one custom swatch?

The vanilla game just has a single Custom Swatch, and AFAIK the right-click menu still works just fine on that one

[oblique hound]

you cant set custom swatch as default for some reason

[white dawn]

Huh

[leaden ether]

No, I just tried editing the one item under the "Custom" swatches. ANd for some reason that is the only swatch in the entire list that does not bring up the right click menu for me

Yeah will just use anotherone 😄

[white dawn]

Well, thing learned today: ✅ , I suppose.

I must not've actually tried setting that as the default in the past

[proper hound]

It worked pre 1.0 afaik, but was bugged and painted things spawned as black

guess they "fixed" that bug

[white dawn]

Weirdly, either my search mojo is failing me, or nobody's yet asked for that on the QA site. Well, a-posting I go.

[leaden ether]

This is the story of my life really. If there are 29 correct choices and one wrong choice, I will usually select the wrong choice -.- (This does not apply to the selection of the Satisfactory game on steam last week of course)

I should be a QA tester

[proper hound]

Its called being Murphy Magnet

[white dawn]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/6802b0856b7c573196367ccc if you want to upvote

[wet shoal]

Yeah, thats it. Im deleting my first save.

[shrewd palm]

you should hold on to it for the sentinmental value or something

[wet shoal]

This stupid turbofuel with ratios that never add up and everything getting in the way

[oblique hound]

why delete? just start anew :) you can look back and see why you started a new one

[wet shoal]

Delete it is.

[shrewd palm]

you can just rebuild it

worst case start over but dont delete it

[wet shoal]

yOu cAn jUSt rEbUiLD iT

Lmao. Nah. No mass delete, a bazillion crates spawned, and then cleaning up all the stupid alignment errors and whatnot.

Its trashed

Better this way

See you in two weeks

[oblique hound]

oh, two weeks?

when you said turbofuel i thought it had a least a month or two

(i play this game slowly)

[red sun]

have fun

[white dawn]

Could alternatively just leave your existing factories as-is, producing all the stuff they're already producing, and build new stuff elsewhere. Though of course by all means start over if you want to; not like that's unheard of. :)

No need to tear anything down or rebuild, unless you really want to.

[tall lantern]

I get the feeling they're not looking for constructive advice

[white dawn]

Heh, true, sometimes ya just want to vent. :)

[red sun]

i find it amusing

someone will appear, complain about shit they have to do, then dip when they go and do it

[shrewd palm]

i dont know why you'd ever delete/give up on something just because its frustrating

[oblique hound]

i restart when i dont like my build style anymore/when i have ideas that i want a new world for

sometimes i also just want to experience earlier game again

[white dawn]

I do actually Get It -- on my first playthrough of the game I'd gone in for centralization (as is, I suspect, the usual first-time impulse) and despite trying not to, had ended up with a pretty spaghettified base. I ended up tearing down and rebuilding basically everything, and didn't mind the process. A bit tedious, sure, but like many other first-time players I was attached to my starting position + nodes and such, and wanted to build it better

It's just nice once you realize that you can leave your ugly shit as-is and go build elsewhere. :D Getting into the expansion mindset makes a lot of problems in the game kind of go away

[oblique hound]

my first restart was after i died to a hog and lost my xeno-zapper, i was on a potato at the time so the lag would of killed me if i tried to get it back lol

[shrewd palm]

i understand that stuff

im in the middle of rebuilding my save after 1.0

but deleting your first save over turbofuel?

[white dawn]

Heh, I'm also unsentimental about my old saves; I've never kept any old ones around

[shrewd palm]

everyones different ig