satisfactory

[abstract heron]

not even at all

[mossy moon]

wow how

huh, i never had that be a bad thing for me

[worldly zinc]

Why does the "cannot unload" message at a drone port mean?

[mossy moon]

drone port full

or does it say that when it dosent have power? (never paid atention to it)

they still very good and nice imo

[split badger]

i was thinking about trying to pump fuel from the oil well (1859x2159z) i found to my base all the way out in grasslands (-386x2625z)

[reef basin]

why not use the fuel where you have it?

in general you shouldn't have just one "base" anyway

[split badger]

it's still quite a trip, i could do the hypertubes

plus i need the plastic for biofuel as well (containers)

i dont know who that is

[reef basin]

good, keep it that way

[split badger]

yikes, alright

[placid stirrup]

He's what happens when you've learned the rules, followed them, and are now breaking them. Like any good artist

[scenic osprey]

oil is definitely the most "build right where it is" of the resources to me

takes up a lot of space i wouldn't want to pipe it into an already crowded area

coal and sulfur can also be a pain in that way but at least it's straightforward to throw it on a train and send it

[placid stirrup]

Nah they cooked with the new one

[velvet edge]

I have a question: is it good idea to make mass production factories for intermediate products instead putting large production chains into every factory? Like to smelt iron in one place or something similar but with some exeptions like screws because they take up a lot of space

Ok then

[obtuse sable]

question, can drones travel into caves?

do they noclip through the ground into the cave, or actually follow the cave entrance?

my immersion 😢

[velvet edge]

Its because when im going on higher tiers its becoming complicated for me to deliver every ore to factory and then make a whole chain in it, then i think about cuting that production chains into few parts and producing every part on mass scale so it can be deliver to other factories

[tender raft]

yes, but which intermediate products is subject to your and your factory and your opinion etc.

for instance I made intermediate factories for materials such as plastic silica aluminum casing etc.

just to list a few off the top of my head

I wouldnt recommend doing it for very low level products though like iron ore, having to ship HUGE quantities of materials around like that is not ideal

[velvet edge]

So iron like things etc. is good to produce local? but like rotors and modular frames are good to transport ?

Ok

Thanks

[white dawn]

Personally I produce practically everything locally, if possible

IMO Rotors + MFs are still quite basic; centralizing those doesn't seem at all worth it to me

It's really only into Phase 4 parts that I personally start shipping stuff around much. Obvs before then I'll generally end up moving oil products around, since I tend to produce those right near the oil nodes

But regardless of how soon you start doing inter-factory logistics: I recommend setting up specific exports to those factories. Don't just make a bunch of Rotors and then figure out how to chop them up later. If you've got a factory that needs 20/min rotors, make 20/min rotors and send those over. Then if something else needs 30/min, make 30/min more

Having specific exports for each of your inter-factory lines will simplify things for you greatly

[sinful carbon]

should i move away from grass fields

[left totem]

move wherever you want

[sinful carbon]

but where

dune desert is too hard to make any thing look good

rocky desert is kinda weird with the terrain

[buoyant anvil]

Rocky desert is a good next stop after Grass Fields because it's the other side of the western oil

That is, if you want to move to a whole other starter option biome. Lots of interesting places in between.

Also, reasonably flat even compared to Dune Desert for building bigger. Near quartz and some more copper and caterium, too.

[azure swan]

Alternatively if you want your base to look a certain way build it wherever you like and build resource outposts and logistics (trains) to bring them to your base.

What are you calling "rips"?

[left totem]

literally the sky, sky is good, you have space

oh yeah RIPs

they use less iron

[sinful carbon]

then im gonna just stay in grass fields

[left totem]

stitched iron plates + iron wire uses less iron than regular RIPs

true but still

[lament niche]

Remember! Save the business cards of people you don't like, so that if you ever hit a parked Explorer, you can just write 'Sorry!' on the back and leave it under the windshield!

Until we meet again!

[tough breach]

hey gang, i got an odd question, how do i put the game on the task bar? its on full screen and when i alt tab it stays loaded on the screen and thus makes everything really slow, even as i type this, discord is at like 10 fps.

[left totem]

okay I can't copy the ss link but it's the last screenshot in #screenshots

[lament niche]

alt tab again, it fixes it

[tough breach]

no it doesnt. :( i tried a lot of things alread...

[lament niche]

fixes it for me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ashen belfry]

Better PC

[lament niche]

funny thing is I literally play on a potato

[tough breach]

it seems to suck up so many resources, that no other app can function properly, it might eb a multi screen issue, it worked for me before and it only started doing this after i changed to an ultrawide screen.

[lament niche]

ultrawides take up a LOT of resources

[tough breach]

sorry i wasnt clear, the game doesnt react as EXPECTED when im on a different screen, it should (in fullscreen) put the game down to the taskbar, so i would be able to see the main screen, it now behaves as its in borderless no matter the setting i put it on be it fullcsreen or windowed.

oh

is it fixable?

[ashen belfry]

Playing on a laptop lol
But game is running fine for me.
Lategame with lumen and mist maxed and kinda a Megafactory and still mostly above 60

[red flicker]

unsatisfactory

a game where you cause problems in a perfect factory

and hide from the pioneer

[red flicker]

holy 5090 laptop

[buoyant anvil]

Sounds like a sabotage mod

[ashen belfry]

Good workers are hard to find.
That's why I hide

[ashen belfry]

Not even close

[placid stirrup]

I've been windows tabbing and putting the game on a different window after experiencing similar hiccups and it's run much smoother since then. Also close your Chrome tabs.

[tough breach]

i dont use chrome, but thanks for the tip :(

idk nothing seems to do anything, not even the little rectangle o the right end of the task bar that puts everything down. Ig once i figure it out at least i can help the next guy with this

[unborn gyro]

there has been some issue with steam overlay recently since some steam update

[tough breach]

no other game does this so idk, might be steam might something else

[obtuse knot]

Hi All. Any news on when 1.1 will be released to stable?

[ivory condor]

Not yet

[elfin cradle]

question, if i have say 2 freight platforms and 4 freight carts, will those 2 plotforms be able to unload the 4 freight carts or do i need 4 platforms?

[ivory condor]

Maybe a month or longer, we shall see

[reef basin]

#announcements will have the info when we have any info

[ivory condor]

We have Ada, thats the best we get

[jaunty jewel]

you need 4

[elfin cradle]

damm ok

[nocturne nebula]

omg, 2 big ass spider jump scares right at the same time!

[placid stirrup]

Actually I'm curious if you put an empty platform in front of the station, then added station 2 in front of that and set it as the next destination, can you unload four carts with two platforms?

[bitter crow]

Does fluid act like it does irl? like does it always prefer the lower elevation?

[reef basin]

mostly yes

[lament niche]

sir Sabiscracktory literally has tim sweeney code.

[bitter crow]

can you use pumps to make it also take the higher elevation, or neutral elevation?

[nocturne nebula]

has the pink forest become even pinker?

[lament niche]

the wot

[nocturne nebula]

feels like a stronger colour

now

[reef basin]

pumps add headlift

[nocturne nebula]

spider creep me the feck out

[elfin trellis]

do u guys migrate to a new spot after ur like open T5\T6?

[olive condor]

Me: looking at a part of my factory which I built some 100 hours ago - My Brain: "You gotta pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers."

[green beacon]

where do i find the SF BP folder i allways forget it

[wet shoal]

Why would anyone ever settle

home is where the factory is currently build, my take

[shrewd palm]

i have a main base in grassy fields but most of my time is spent jumping around the map working on factories

[green beacon]

PLS I CAN'T FIND THIS STUPID FOLDER

[nocturne nebula]

I am so tempted to move my factory to the dunes

[mystic oriole]

@latent hearth how did you get John Cena to play Satisfactory?

[nocturne nebula]

it's nice place to build a city!

I am nowhere near endgame though, lol

any summer sloops near the green fields starting area?

crazy amount of resources over there too

first time equiping the blade runners

always feels so gooooood

thanks man

I really wanna get into dimensional storage and the like

[latent hearth]

what now

its simple

[olive condor]

We k**l the Batman?

[latent hearth]

you just need to get a test subject, that person needs to enter photomode and go press R and then you need to shoot him with shock ammo of the rebar gun

boom, you done it

👍

[crude canyon]

Alright I made 1 motor machine for storage

and honestly, I feel like I should have made more

you need so much going oil

I need lots of motors for milestones and refineries

[nocturne nebula]

lol

I wanna see more dogs!

not lizard dogs, REAL dogs!

[olive condor]

Look if there's a mod for it.

[nocturne nebula]

I would love to play a game where I can put my own dogs in it

fuck teh real world, VR pls 😛

I have 2 of them lassie dogs

large, super fluffy

sheep dogs ... basically the collies that are brown, white and a lil black around the faces

lol

it is fairly quiet ... not like we;re interupting

I think collies in general are sheep dogs

why?

[red sun]

domesticating wolves into dogs is fine, breeding the shit out of dogs to make them look how we want with zero regard for their health is not

if we were responsible with how we were breeding them we wouldn't have this issue

[nocturne nebula]

I can't believe I can't find a crashed ship

there are many a bad breeder out there

[red sun]

ooh i missed today's stream - any new word on 1.1?

i feel bad for pugs mainly. you can hear the poor bastards fighting for their breath

[elfin trellis]

Phase 2 done yess

[red sun]

i have nearly 800 hours in the game and i've still yet to beat it

[worn crescent]

it is very fun

[crude canyon]

idk I enjoy grabbing just me and my friend and see if we can beat it in an afternoon or smth

[mystic oriole]

I put in 1000 hrs and timed it right to beat it on 1001 hrs. and once

[red sun]

in an afternoon??

[tranquil maple]

tf is wrong with u

the wr is 10 hrs

[crude canyon]

my fastest game was like 75 hours for phase 5

[red sun]

isn't the speedrun wr like far longer

[red sun]

75 hours is six afternoons

potentially more

[crude canyon]

actually 75 hours without mods

[tranquil maple]

on speedrun.com the wr for any % is 10 hrs

[crude canyon]

I think I managed 40 with sloop farming

[red sun]

even that's not an afternoon

[crude canyon]

and random recipes

beating the game in 40 hours is nuts

[crude canyon]

it's about seeing how far I can get through a game

[red sun]

that makes more sense

and is also not what you said lmao

[crude canyon]

yeah it's called hyperbole

[sharp geode]

dare i ask what the record is without prebaked blueprints

[crude canyon]

yeah I think it's around 10 hours by epiphane

[red sun]

i mean not quite but alright

[crude canyon]

the trick is: There is not trick, you just have to play really well and fast an knowing all the tricks

[placid stirrup]

Thanks

[crude canyon]

blueprints, exploration with the hub, lots of power

[placid stirrup]

It's my first day playing the wdym

[crude canyon]

I remember spending hours in phase 1 just using the jump pads and ending myself on them

I stopped playing and it took me 2 months until I came up with manifolds

and the central bus factory

[placid stirrup]

There's still parts of the game I just play with that don't contribute to beating it haha. Photo mode is SOOO fun, you can basically become an FPV pilot if you detach and set the FOV all the way out.

[crude canyon]

took me 100 hours just to finish all milestones on phase 4
So much time spend commuting between the main hub and the oil rig

[zenith pecan]

I started in update 3

[crude canyon]

I started in 8

btw phase 2 is so fun

[zenith pecan]

I built another ridiculous power station.

[worn crescent]

i started in update 6

right before u7 came out i think

[zenith pecan]

A lot of things in my old save are so out of synch now that fixing it would be more trouble than going nuts in a new one.

Now my power station is consiting of three half kilometre towers, and I have 1.1Tw available to use.

Sec, restarting discord, it's being weird.

[elfin trellis]

is there a "show fps" ingame?

[zenith pecan]

Here's the actual output of the towers: #satisfactory-experimental message

A new tunnel network has sprung up to fuel the power station.

[naive pendant]

@elfin trellis You can run the "stat fps" command in the console. Check your keybinds for how to open console. Want to say mine is "~".

[zenith pecan]

Though my power station is too tall for the new lifts.

I don't usually build quite this way, building three 600 metre towers to power the world is new territory for me, usually I'd spread out all over an entire biome.

I only really got away with it, because rocket fuel is a gas, so 0 head lift issues.

[west geyser]

If I overclock a refinery does it give me more of each bi product?

so If plastic is 20 pm with 10pm heavy oil, and I overclock it to 40pm, will it give me 20 heavy oil pm?

[velvet edge]

Yes

[west geyser]

k cool ty

[sinful parcel]

Hey, how many can on an satisfactory Server?

[buoyant anvil]

Can what?

[lavish lance]

Any news on 1.1 leaving experimentsl in todays stream?

[buoyant anvil]

There are too many bugs. Expect to see a experimental that is pretty clean before it happens.

[lavish lance]

So still quite some time then

[velvet edge]

I hope they will fix holes for conveyor belts that are black, I mean you can't see through it like the old ones

[buoyant anvil]

I think that's because the hole is actually a visual overlay to the wall model that is solid.

You can't make them see-through unless the wall is, too, and the black probably looks more believable than just seeing the wall in the hole.

[red sun]

it will be probably a month or two at the absolute minimum

[buoyant anvil]

The 1.0 conveyor walls actually have holes in them.

[red sun]

i can see the technical reasons as to why they did it, but i think they should make the holes consistent. either they should both be transparent, or they should both be opaque

but at the same time it might be good style-wise to have the two choices

[granite granite]

Hi can someone help me out please

[velvet edge]

Yeah, but i think it is possible to make it look through, isn't it?

[buoyant anvil]

Then they'd probably pick black because you can't change the model that's already there.

[granite granite]

Can someone send me a ss of their discord devices settings page

[red sun]

i have no idea how they've put the game together but i can imagine it would actually be pretty difficult to do

[granite granite]

Mine won’t load and idk whether it is like that for other people

[distant pilot]

I remember a KSP mod that was able to do that

[zenith pecan]

@unborn gyro they did change how conveyor walls work, it is no longer an actual hole like it is in 1.0, #satisfactory-experimental message

Here's what happens in experimental #satisfactory-experimental message

[distant pilot]

It allowed for flush RCS ports that didn't show the fuselage they were clipped into inside the nozzle

[lavish lance]

im in no rush, thanks

[buoyant anvil]

How do you make a UE model selectively transparent in variable places when it isn't in the original model of the wall?

[distant pilot]

the mask would have to be on the conveyor hole model

and then that comes with the potential issue of other walls behind it also becoming invisible

[zenith pecan]

The hole is an actual hole in 1.0, it's only in Ex that it is now a solid wall.

[distant pilot]

im speaking conceptually by the way, idk the actual technical details/jargon

[red sun]

my first thought is some Portal type shit on each side, but that sounds like a lot of effort for something that probably won't look that good for something that's stupidly minor

if i were them, i'd just make them both opaque and call it a day lmao

[velvet edge]

I think that is just a bug

[red sun]

also might be tricky because it's a different game engine

not sure what kind of portal support unreal engine has lmao

[nocturne nebula]

is there a way to pull resources back out of the HUB Terminal?

[zenith pecan]

I hope so, throwing down a wall and using it as a shield when shooting at multiple spitters etc is quite helpful without the need for needless acrobatics in a game that isn't meant as a first person shooter.

[distant pilot]

In that case it was as "simple" as having a camera at the position of portal B and then projecting that image onto portal A, with some trickery to make the parallax match up

[red sun]

i don't think so

[distant pilot]

with many conveyor holes and thus many "portals" it could cause UPS issues

[green beacon]

how much lift does water has after coming out of a water Extractor ?

[distant pilot]

10 meters

same for every other fluid output that isnt a pump

[red sun]

also very true. portal only ever had to handle up to two at once

[nocturne nebula]

I still miss the see through holograms from early days of this game ... would love a toggle to bring that back ... we're not all running on potatoes, lol

[red sun]

again i feel like cutting a hole through the wall is more effort than it's probably worth

[zenith pecan]

again, the hole is already there, they added effort in removing it! jeez .

[red sun]

i mean the conveyor wall hole buildable

conveyor wall hole not conveyor hole wall

[nocturne nebula]

it's not hard computationally speaking

[zenith pecan]

The buildable I DO get, the floor hole is the same, so that isn't an issue.

[red sun]

the only thing bothering me is that the hole wall is now not consistent with any of the other holes

[distant pilot]

I've noticed that too actually

[red sun]

i don't care that the buildables aren't transparent

[buoyant anvil]

and 10m isn't even to the top of the fluid extractor.

[distant pilot]

also making them not transparent means they can be used on things like solid foundations without issues

[red sun]

hell, the black voidy thing happens with all of the other holes in the game - machines, lift floor holes, etc

[frail sleet]

I have a technical question, is anybody able to run the game with the nvidia app overlay? I did it once, but the game crashes whenever i have it enabled and i can't figure out why or how to work around the crash.

[zenith pecan]

In fact the buildable can hide so many sins while still allowing a belt to pierce a wall, you can't see inside a spaghetti monster that you have hidden inside a black box.

[velvet edge]

I mean its a bit annoying for me for some reason, but i can live with it

[red sun]

makes more sense to me, like i said the machines, miners, etc all have black voids

why shouldn't the wall hole too

[nocturne nebula]

how come I shift click on an inventory slot, I hear the sound, but nothing moves? this seams to happen quite a bit, and not just in this game

[red sun]

more versatile too, you can have it directly up against a solid foundation and you wouldn't know. if it were transparent you would see it phasing through the side of the foundation

[buoyant anvil]

Various mods allowed you to put a conveyor hole anywhere and they were all black, too.

[velvet edge]

Because there are normal holes for conveyors and they have no black holes so they don't fit to the old ones

[buoyant anvil]

Back to the original quesiton about how quickly the 1.1 would reach production - Mikael and Hannah said "we don't know" today. Hannah said they're changing a lot of things at once.

[zenith pecan]

Half kilometre lift shafts would be nice.

[buoyant anvil]

#math-and-meta

Do you mean how to do math in-game (e.g. caculations?)

[wet shoal]

Take a rock. Purify it with flames. Extract its essence with a special crystal.
Slice it into thin wavers with occult properties. Engrave it with runes and magic circles.
Cut a nicely done magic core out of it. Place it into a conduit, apply a flow of directed arcane energy.
Introduce it to a specifically tailored grimoire, and feed it one spell after another.
Congrats, you successfully turned a rock into a math golem.

[crude canyon]

I like how after phase 2 the game turns into basically creative mode

[buoyant anvil]

Going to math class actually sounds easier.

[wet shoal]

You are correct, making processors is kinda hard. Programming perhaps even more so.

In any case, satisfactory allows you to make simple calculation when you press N

2000 * 144
for example

or
12 / 4

[hidden sparrow]

how to give a heart attack to a poor random pioneer tutorial :
step 1 : #screenshots message

[red sun]

you have put me in the hospital

i'm in intensive care right now

i hope you're happy

[hidden sparrow]

If my factory manage to cause real life physical harm to someone, it would be the single best acheivment in my life

[nocturne nebula]

😮

[austere valve]

NSFW is not allowed on this server.

[hidden sparrow]

Its not THAT bad...

Ok maybe a little bad but uknow we all got our little quirks

[nocturne nebula]

yeah, with context he was only talking about a speghetti factory @austere valve lol

I really need to fix my power gen water

so inconsistent, lol

[lost turret]

Is satisfactory modeler good?

[hidden sparrow]

It works for me so its pretty fool proof #screenshots message

[lime ermine]

Send the file to me who only had a steam deck and watch my house burn down

Jk don't

[nocturne nebula]

yeah, heard great things about that app

[hidden sparrow]

The save eats 27gb of ram LMFAO

[lime ermine]

Dang

[nocturne nebula]

😮

[white dawn]

There are folks who like it, sure. My main complaint is that the graphs it makes are utter #$!@ for actually conveying information to anyone who's not the graph's creator

Since nothing's labelled. Just a mess of inscrutable tiny icons.

[nocturne nebula]

whats your preference?

[hidden sparrow]

Yeah rn the save alone is at 25mb

[lost turret]

Me and my tm8 both have ultra autism so that dont matter

[white dawn]

For showing production graphs to other people, literally any other solver

[nocturne nebula]

do you actually have a preference? lol

[white dawn]

Personally I like https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production but I've got no complaints about any of the other options online. And if Modeller just bloody labelled their graphs I wouldn't mind that, either

[nocturne nebula]

hehe

maybe he has an area for feedback then

[white dawn]

I posted a feature request to their Steam forum, though that's just been ignored so far. Though that may not be the best place to submit FRs; dunno since I don't actually use the thing. :)

[nocturne nebula]

I have not tested it personally

but as its a steam app cool that designs would be saved along with the steam account

[white dawn]

(And again, my perspective here is entirely just "I want to share a graph of my production chain to other humans; what's the best way of doing that?" And by that metric Modeller is just utter crap. It may be a great application otherwise if you're the one doing it, but its information-sharing aspect is awful)

[nocturne nebula]

well making it presentable is certainly important

[smoky zephyr]

sorry guys, do u now when the 1.1 is releasing?

[nocturne nebula]

I have poor memory so more info the better

[white dawn]

If you're actually using the app you can mouseover things and get more info and I'm sure it's fine from that angle. But you can't do that with a screenshot. :)

[nocturne nebula]

its on the EXP branch

[smoky zephyr]

sorry i didnt understand that

[nocturne nebula]

there are 2 branches ... Experimental and EA (now full release)

[white dawn]

As I say, when you're actually in the app you can mouseover things to get recipe names and such, so I think interactively it's probably all right so long as it jives with how you like to do things. It's only the graph-sharing angle I hate. :)

[shrewd palm]

always a fun suprise coming back to an old factory and finding out all the nodes got bumped up to pure

[nocturne nebula]

lol

[smoky zephyr]

i see, so i can play it by getting the experimental or thats not posible?

[nocturne nebula]

yeah, yoiu on Epic or Steam?

[smoky zephyr]

on epic

[nocturne nebula]

cool, just search Satisfactory in your Library and both will show up

[white dawn]

To pick on a recently-posted graph: #screenshots message -- Great, three production chains for the same item. Now how would I build that assuming I liked one? What's the recipe called? I'd have to actually go into the codex and look up recipes and match which one happens to match the inputs (or build a machine and start flipping through recipes that way, but what if you don't immediately recognize the machine icon?) And that's assuming you even recognize the icons for the items, which isn't always gonna be the case

[nocturne nebula]

image makes it look like u8, but it's latest

[smoky zephyr]

thanks, thats so helpfull

[nocturne nebula]

yw!

[white dawn]

Every single step of even figuring out what a Modeller graph is trying to say, just based on a screenshot, requires multiple steps of cognition and interpretation

Anyway, this concludes apocalyptech's Modeller rant for the day; I'll try to not bring it up again. :D

[shrewd palm]

is 4800 iron going to be overkill for heavy modular frames

[white dawn]

(Well, not quite concluding; I should post a counterexample. Here, a graph from sftools where you can tell immediately exactly what it's doing at every single step: #math-and-meta message . Okay, done now. :D)

[nocturne nebula]

lol

modellar auto formats

thats a bonus ... wouldh't it be nice if somebody could make one that has all the best features from the competitors\

[runic acorn]

Can the space-tick-whale-thingies be radioactive?

[nocturne nebula]

i don't believe so

[reef basin]

nothing can just randomly become radioactive. There's a limited set of radioactive items and they are just constantly radioactive

[runic acorn]

Okay then something weird is going on in my world

[runic acorn]

I put it in #streams-and-videos

I got attacked by a radioactive hog, died, and when I came back the radioactive tick was there

[nocturne nebula]

yey, blueprints!

just a coincidence I'd say @runic acorn

[simple plume]

To the devs who may see this, there seems to be an issue with the experimental version disconnecting from Steamworks. I do not know if the devs can do something about it or if it's just a steam issue.

[runic acorn]

Probably, but where is the radiation coming from?

[reef basin]

devs usually don't read here. You can post the bug on QA site

[simple plume]

Thank you

[wet shoal]

If you have encountered a bug report it properly. No devs stalk this discord.

Their time is occupied by actual work

[nocturne nebula]

hot rocks, lol

[runic acorn]

There arent any around there

[simple plume]

is there a link to the QA site? would be helpful

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @reef basin

[runic acorn]

and it wasn't radioactive before

I reloaded and now the radiation is gone

weird

[nocturne nebula]

odd for sure

coiuld have been a mob that de spawned though

[wet shoal]

Did you put uranium ore into your trash

Because its radiation is only deleted after reload.

Encountered that one myself.

[runic acorn]

No, I havent been mining any radioactive stuff yet

[wet shoal]

What also happens quite often: Nukehogs glitching into the terrain

[runic acorn]

Very possible

[nocturne nebula]

if I die by falling into the void, where does the chest with all my supplies go please?

[wet shoal]

Tbh the glirching and teleporting of enemies is beyond annyoing

trashgamelevel annoying

[runic acorn]

I think below the terrain?

where you died basically

[nocturne nebula]

lucky me ... they updated it

ut was above level terrain

[summer oar]

if you glitch through the ground and die under the map then the chest is under the map but if you fall into the void normally it spawns on the nearest ground

[latent prawn]

i don't mind it except when the nuke hog suddenly teleports back out while i'm building, lol

[finite latch]

just making sure I am not missing something.. the max uranium ore is 2100 without using sam conversion.

I have a bunch of places in old notes that say 2700 but I cannot figure out how I made that work out..

[wet shoal]

perhaps the map was changed?

[cloud portal]

is online broken rn on 1.1 experi because my friend cant join it says ''connection lost''

[cursive stirrup]

Do train stations have built-in block signals for trains entering the station, or do I need to place a signal before the station? And same for exiting, do I need to place a signal after the station?

[finite latch]

they added uranium in 1.0 .. I think they just adjusted purities .. but these notes (while I called them old) are from 1.0

[zenith pecan]

Yeah, a normal was reduced to impure, and one more impure node was added, so the same amount is on the map, 2100, but a little bit more spread.

[wise bronze]

Is it part of 1.1 where ADA randomly says things while you build, I’ve never noticed it before?

[wet shoal]

Yeah that what I meant with map-changes. Purity of nodes, etc

[modest smelt]

Ive definitely crashed autopiloted trains into each others butts in stations before

[fresh wing]

I too, have done the same

[crude canyon]

I disabled Ada, I don't know if that's good or not

[fresh wing]

ADA is love, ADA is life

you obey ADA

[crude canyon]

On one hand I don't have to press the Smosh button every time anymore
On the other hand I don't get to hear new juicy lore

[trim vine]

I made a BP for a stackable conveyor pole Belt line (1x3)

When I am building that, is there a way to make them connect without me having to do it manually?

[placid stirrup]

Sounds like someone isn't on experimental branch

[trim vine]

Nope, is that looking like a 1.1 thing?

[placid stirrup]

It is a 1.1 thing, though I admit I haven't tried it myself yet

[azure swan]

Autoconnect is a new feature in 1.1

[trim vine]

gotcha, yeah I saw Kibitz doing it in a video

[placid stirrup]

I like Dr. Pepper

[azure swan]

I said it first, you owe me one 😛

[placid stirrup]

Not the way it shows on my screen!

Alright, alright, we'll get each other a soda

[wet shoal]

The agnostic drink

[wicked nacelle]

auto connect is so frustratingly close to incredibly useful. SOOOO close. But just when you get used to it, suddenly it doesn't work for something or some combination of terrain or whatever.

[wet shoal]

Anyone else having suddenly issues with stuttering upon game start?

Like, im not even loaded into my save, just straightup blackscreen multiple times

[wise bronze]

Could need a driver update?

[wet shoal]

I guess its tirme again yeah

[grizzled lotus]

I just found out that I can press spacebar ONCE for the crafting bench to keep crafting

[static surge]

uhhh

i got turbo motors when i'm not supposed to have them

my lizard doggo (just tamed) got me 9 turbo motors

but they're useless rn

[static surge]

BRUH

i once crafted 500 screws way back in earlygame without this trick

[crude canyon]

they're good to be sunk

so many points!

[static surge]

oh true

DUDE

this dog is AMAZING

i just got a free yellow power slug

[sour pilot]

you can also find them (and other late tier parts) near crash sites

[static surge]

no it's based on your phase in spelevator

I only started getting HMFs after i unlocked phase 2

[sour pilot]

nope, it's predetermined for each crash site location

[oblique hound]

the closer you are to a starting area the more basic the resources are

[frail sleet]

and the less crazy enemies / uranium you get 😄

[static surge]

to me it seemed like it only changed based on phase

sorry

[sullen gull]

You could get pretty far if you did nothing but loot crash sites and use those parts to complete the phases. The alternate recipes that come with them are based on phase though I believe.

[plain hill]

When am I ever going to use trucks over tractors? Trucks are so large and difficult to maneuve, hard to ride on single width foundations and colliding with my otherwise decent height hypertubes

[dense violet]

trucks have a much larger inventory right?
and if you're making a road yo uwant it to be 1.5 foundations anyway for turns

as for difficult to maneuver, who cares if its automated

[plain hill]

Fair, im not moving them far and havent had any issues relating to inventory space so far. My hypertubes are aprox 6m above ground (4m foundation, halway up the next 4m wall with wall holes), but if I ever do ill probably just spring for trains instead

[dense violet]

were you using them for tranport or travel?

[plain hill]

Was planning to use them for transport, couldnt get past my own hypertubes and put up tractors instead

[dense violet]

eh up to you and how you design things right?
but also I don't build roads for vehicles

at least no long sections of them

[plain hill]

just started tinkering with roads, mostly cuz I didnt have trains yet at the point where i wanted/needed them

[dense violet]

trains are unlocked pretty early, better to just wait for them and build the infrastructure. Much better use of all that infrastructure

[plain hill]

fr. Trucks feel a little superflous. But im guessing it might work out better if you have long distances and dont feel like making a train line

[grand wasp]

trucks are good for one off infrastructure, trains are good for large infrastructure networks

you can very easily slap down a station to a rail line and get any resource from anywhere else on the network if you build it right

theres also the fact that trains take power to run instead of a fuel, so you dont have to run fuel logistics

[plain hill]

Well thats the next issue I guess. But I feel like by the time i have that issue, ill be at drones anyway.

Oh thats a decent point

[grand wasp]

drones are even better for one off infrastructure, particularly stuff thats radioactive

I have a drone supplying the uranium for my 25000MW nuke plant

[wet shoal]

Main reason why I will never use trucks, if I need to move one thing just to move another, im moving double.

[grand wasp]

yea

it feels like double the work

plus setting up the routes is a huge pain

trains just make all of it easy, at the cost of massive stations and lots of rail infrastructure

[plain hill]

any video or guide reccomendations for trains? Ive tinkered with them before, but I dont feel like ive really understood it yet

[grand wasp]

yea i usually end up using conveyors for the jobs trucks would do, unless I have some spare coal at one of the end points

[static gyro]

just made this awesome setup with oil and now i make 2.4 GW

[leaden ether]

I read that you can place a miner on a platform above a mining node, but how far above the node can it be> I've tried with a platform that is about 3/4 the height of the miner above the node but can't get it to set

[ocean frost]

Sometimes you need to aim at the node for it to be placed on top of the foundation

[leaden ether]

I did but it placed it on the node, I just tried with a lower platform and it worked. So I guess the distance isn't really all that high.

[manic parcel]

I might be the least productive pioneer alive, I was trying to figure out what was wrong with my truck station. Turns out they need power...

[shrewd palm]

my guess is you can place it at most a 1m platform above the top of the node

[old badger]

is there a way to disable the warning messages every time you start the game?

[lament niche]

sink em for lots of coupons

[static gyro]

450 steel into 5 constructors is how much overclock?

[lament niche]

for what recipe?

[static gyro]

i want to make both steel pipes and beams

i have space for 5 constructors

3 each

[lament niche]

pipes are 30/min, beams are 45/min

fairly simply to do the math then

3x30+3x45

[static gyro]

ohhh, ur right lol

[lament niche]

you can use the menu brought up by N as a calculator

[leaden ether]

Are sam nodes always at the top of the highest peaks or the bottom of the deepest caves? -.-

[manic parcel]

Sounds like a bit of a weird question, but can I make the game "forget" that something was a blueprint?

It takes awhile for the delete tool to switch to blueprint, probably because I have so many tiny ones that I won't even need to delete as whole blueprints

[last jackal]

Also about ×50-100 power but eh...

[grand wasp]

power isnt an issue if you scale your grid in advance

[last jackal]

Power is still power.

Trucks also don't have lockouts. Which is another plus.

[latent prawn]

limit has been 2100/min since before update 4

[dense violet]

often in annoying spots, yes

[latent prawn]

in 1.0, the normal node in the swamp was changed to impure and the dune desert mesa impure node was added

[latent prawn]

there's a few in good spots, but quite a few of them are in very inconvenient caves (blue crater for instance)

[ocean frost]

Sam doesn't spawn in the rock nodes does it?

[latent prawn]

not that i've seen in 1.0. In EA there were some sam ore deposits

[leaden ether]

So I found the one at the bottom of a DEEP cave in the grassy starter area (By accidentally driving my tractor into it) Killed the spider and tried to drive it out for fun but then this Austin Powers moment happened. #screenshots So it's dismantle and try to walk out of this gas fume infested cave...

[ocean frost]

The crater lake deposit is pretty accessible

[zealous chasm]

I have a question. Is it just me or the drop pod screen doesn't play the video? And if it's me then are there any settings that might be breaking it?

[ocean frost]

Sorry just read your comment

[latent prawn]

there's a pure one in titan forest also pretty out-in-the-open

[ocean frost]

And close to aluminum

It would suck for new players not having access to the DD until Sam is unlocked naturally

[latent prawn]

why?

ahh, DD=depot, not dune desert; makes more sense, lol

idk how hard it is to actually find if you are new to the game; i think there's a sam node in each of the starting biomes and it ends up being rather close to a sloop or sphere

[spring drift]

I believe you can manually defeat the blueprint files, they have their own little saves like saved games do. I learned this when I loaded a cloud save on a different system and didnt have blueprints

[last jackal]

There is a dedicated blueprints folder in your save file folder.

This is how you import/export blueprints to other saves as well.

[frozen cloud]

#faq message

[leaden ether]

How do you guys keep track of the location of your various factories? I've only been playing a week but already I'm forgetting exactly where that pure caterium extractor I set up was... -.-

I know you can put icons on the map but it's poretty rudementary, cant like add comments to them or anyuthing

[dense violet]

notes in excel for hte most part.

but for going up the tiers I belt most of it to one location

there'll be an oil factory some ways off, a bauxite refinery as another sattelite, but mostly just in one spot

[leaden ether]

So far I have not done any cross country belting, but I guess that'll become more necessary. Done a lot of cross country electrical wiring though 🙂 (Well not like across the map yet, still within about a 1x2 km area so far.

[dense violet]

you're early on and still learning. Long belts are totally reasonable when learning the ropes

[obtuse sable]

how do I stop a conveyer lift from auto attaching to a merger/splitter?

[ocean frost]

You can put a temp splitter for it to attach to..

Maybe another snapping point would work

[dense violet]

don't have the splitter there?

or spin it to face a different direction

[boreal musk]

u can just put lift first before splitter

[ocean frost]

There is a really useful video on ty that tells you everything you need to know about splitters merges and conveyers

[ivory igloo]

anyone know a good place for me to start

[ocean frost]

what are you looking for in a start

if its your first time i wold say the rockey desert, its got a lot of things you need close by it looks nice and has access to some crash sites to help jump start your game

[leaden ether]

Making these smallish factories purpose built to complete item batches for the space elevator, they take about half the time to fulfill the order than it took to make the factory. It seems a little disappointing, all that work and it's no longer useful as is. Sure it did it's job and saved 1000x as much time as making the items by hand of course. Just sad that it'll now mostly have to be torn down for the next batch of items.

I mean you go through the planning and building and get it all working. IRL, the plant would run for years and all that work was built to last. But After making these 1000 frames, I'll have to tear 80% of it down to reconfigure for the next item. It takes away the sense of fulfilment some to be dismantling it so soon.

[jaunty jewel]

just.. don't dismantle it?

[leaden ether]

Hmm, I guess so.. Like find a completely new spot for each one as you go through all the phases?

[jaunty jewel]

it's not like any of them are ridiculously resource expensive

so yeah just go to a new place or just bring stuff to the existing place and expand it

[leaden ether]

Not sure if it's practical but I keep thinking of like making a bunch of factories specializing on the main items so like the Screw Factory and the Modular Frame Factory and so on, then have all of it transported to a central location for ding the more specialized stuff. Not sure how practical that is though. At this point (Phase 2) I really don't know how many items ther are or if that would be any better than just throwing down 2-5 screw constructors on every factory made to satisfy the space elevator.

[jaunty jewel]

keep in mind every space elevator part uses a previously used one, or introduces it

[jaunty jewel]

you can play however you want it's a sandbox although i personally build small factories for items like that for personal use and then just make new ones for bigger factories

[leaden ether]

Hmm, well if the next item I need to make that needs Versatile Frames only needs them at a rate of 10 and hour then I'll be good 😄 I fear it may need 10 times that but I guess Ill see.

[zenith pecan]

I tend to go full ham when I design and build a factory.

[jaunty jewel]

10/min is like the standard for most items up until the big items in phase 4 and 5

the only items you would want to do a lot more of is likely conveyor parts - which mk3 5 and 6 are all very easy to do so for

[last jackal]

There is never a reason to dismantle something unless you just desperately want to fix something.

[leaden ether]

Heh yeah, I would like to make a single factory that made all the construction parts in one place. I have a few of them scattered around which is why I was asking about how to keep track of them on the map. Cable and copper sheet over there, iron plates here and fast wire somewhere I forgot about -.-

[last jackal]

??? There is a map?

[jaunty jewel]

as well as other parts you need for placing machines eg concrete modular frames rotors

[last jackal]

You can put markers on the map?

[leaden ether]

Good to know, I wasn't sure iof the parts were going to be used if at all, so I know I can keep them in tact.

[leaden ether]

Yeah but as far as I could find you can; label them at all. I think that would be pretty nice.

[jaunty jewel]

you can label them

[last jackal]

You can label them??????

[leaden ether]

O.O

[last jackal]

What are you saying lol?

[jaunty jewel]

dude calm down he's likely new to the game

[last jackal]

It's like, so what if you don't use the iron plate far you made at onboarding. You have about 50 more iron deposits around the map tbh.

[leaden ether]

Oh I see you have to use the New Map Marker. I was expecting to be able to label the various other icons.

[last jackal]

Eh, yeah, the icons can't really be named. They are like temporary stickers imo.

[leaden ether]

Sweet, yeah only been playing a week and only got the map a couple days ago.

[jaunty jewel]

you can place them at crash sites you've looted so you don't go back to them

can be helpful in multiplayer too

[last jackal]

Just a tip, things in the MAM are more important than your phases or your milestones. Do the MAM as much as you can.

I guess the explorer and compacted coal line are kinda debatable early, but. MAM is the most important building in this game.

Blade runners literally change your game.

[jaunty jewel]

unlocking DD and overclocking is also incredibly important

[leaden ether]

Yeah I've been keeping up with that as I can. Got a couple vehicles, probabl;y 2/3 through all the trees. Yeah I went for the bladerunners really quick 😄

[last jackal]

Mk2 poles are such a QoL. Mk3 is debtable, but Mk2 is god. Dear god so good.

[leaden ether]

Yeah I just today unlocked the Mk2 poles and the large power lines.

[last jackal]

Meow.

[jaunty jewel]

hi

anyways i gotta go now cya

but i get to do maths

it's fully a win for me

[leaden ether]

night 😄 yeah I need to get to bed, it's 1am

Oh just got the recipe to make smart splitters today and those are awesome.

[last jackal]

Overflow to the sink is so nice.

[leaden ether]

Yeah specifically for the overflow... 🙂

[summer hemlock]

I was browsing the scim blueprints and how the heck did they put an flipped around water extractor in a blueprint 🤣

[last jackal]

Mods probably.

[summer hemlock]

Yeah cool that it works if you paste it in without mods

Like 20 buildings occupying the same space

Never using it but funny that it's possible, same with the miners that just produce resources out of thin air

[sullen stream]

Can someone help me? I want to build COAL POWER and I need to build one that will give me 2700mv. Does anyone have one to offer me?

[boreal musk]

then build one that produce 2700MW? i dont get what you mean by offering one

[sullen stream]

Sorry I don't know English so I use Google Translate.
😅

I want to build a COAL POWER that generates 2700 MW. Do you have one to suggest to me because I'm not very familiar with this machine?

[boreal musk]

!wikisearch cg

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[leaden turret]

coalgen does 75mw.
you want 2700mw.

do math.

[sullen stream]

ok ty

[mortal ginkgo]

What alts are a must need for first time nuclear setting

[boreal musk]

theres no must need, if u want to use every bit of uranium, u want to use the encased uranium cell alt but it requires even more complex production line, if u want to keep it simple, just use the basic recipe

[mortal ginkgo]

agh supercomputer alts there are 50 alts on the line..

Is 10 supercomputers /min good for beginning?

[reef basin]

You are always asking these questions, but you always get the same answer - it depends 🙂

Just play the game and see

[cursive crane]

10 sc /m for 1 minute is only 10sc
10sc /m for 10 minutes is 100 sc

So you do the math. How much do you need? How much can you store? How much do you plan on playing? Are you actively feeding them into another machine or storing them for later? You are the only one that can figure those questions out

[mortal ginkgo]

Wow, just for this much scomputers. #screenshots message

Alternate, here I come

Wdym?

I changed stuff a little ig.

[true mulch]

Latest 0.2.x and latest 0.3.3.x, yes

0.3.5 and above are available from Steam

Mhm

Update 2 content on the latest game build with all the qol stuff would be awesome

[finite latch]

So I trying to math out nuclear power. 2100 uranium total. is there already a list of perfect alts to do this? I feel like I need a crazy amount of the map to make this happen. I don't maybe I do to max out nuclear. does this seem right?

[ivory igloo]

how do i do 1.1 instead of 1.0

[reef basin]

Well depends what other resources you want to optimise for and such

[finite latch]

only goal is use all the uranium on the map. (not counting sam conversions or slooping)

[tall lantern]

so not trying to maximise amount of power per uranium then?

then alts don't really matter

arguably it'll make it easier if you don't, less to build lol

[finite latch]

ok fair, yes producing as many plutonium rods as possible. but sinking the plutonium rod and not going further yet. so not max wattage.

[golden nexus]

if you have to ask this question. Perhaps attempts to use all uranium on the map isn't for you?

you probably grossly underestimate how much is actually involved in making what you state work....

[sinful carbon]

why 2700mw exactly

i can offer you a design for 2400

or 3600

[golden nexus]

Seen too many people set out with this goal of "I am going to use all the uranium" and then actually fail to deliver making any power output even after several days

[sinful carbon]

its about the journey

[finite latch]

yea, I don't quit just because some one says it migh be hard

[tall lantern]

days? months lol

[golden nexus]

its mostly about scope 😛

[finite latch]

or years 🤷 as long as its fun lol

[tall lantern]

took me like 3 months to finish my plant and I was only using 1200. Though granted I'm not the fastest or most disciplined builder...

[golden nexus]

i would suggest you use 600/min first and then go from there to optimize it and then start making additional ones... you need a complete logestics network to get all uranium + reprocessing of waste

[finite latch]

then it would be more optimum to build 5 individual nuclear plants (one per node) instead of one giant one

the problem with trying to expand 5 fold is space.. you end up have to rebuild six times just because you are not planning for space

[golden nexus]

yes.... its better to make a ton of something like 300/min electonric rods (this needs like 500/min stator) then moves the rods around 4 processing plants and bring the finished rods back than it is to move all the uranium to one place and make all the rods there

[boreal musk]

just start with 1 impure, 300/min uranium can produce up to 90GW, and it doesn't use that much resources

[golden nexus]

you have to do this anway because you will quickly disocver even with the basic recipies you need to be makeing 500+/min stator and 350/min ai limiter which starts to exceed most regional resources

[finite latch]

this is what I am trying to plan for.. what needs to go where and what should be brought it. it very evident that I cannot bring in everything completely raw or I will need a very hefty train network to handle some significate train traffic.

[golden nexus]

For example 1 rods needs 5 electromagnetic rods. Which needs 7.5 stator. Your talking about making 50/min rods So its 50 * 7.5 eg 375/min stator

and this is before you start to think about reprocessing the waste which also needs rods...

you have to do the same thing for encased beam....

or rotors + crystal oss. depending on which approach you go for

[finite latch]

why do I need rods to process waste? I don't see where I need that (assume rod means fuel rod)

[golden nexus]

electro rod

[finite latch]

ah ok.. those rods

[golden nexus]

yup so you need like 500/min of them or so.. which means you start mking them in multiple locations

[finite latch]

the middle and end of the production isn't what the problem is right now.. its looking at needing 500+ water extractors.. 22+ caterium mines.. 17+ quartz miners.. If I am not maxing those out on the map, then I am close to it. that makes me feel like I am missing alts that I should be using.

[sinful carbon]

my game keeps crashing for no reason like once every 6 hours

how do i find the issue

[golden nexus]

yeah you will quickly disocver there is only 17 quarts nodes and you still need quartz to do other things

and there only is 17 caterium nodes and your exceeding that by expecting to have 22

[boreal musk]

you also need electromagnetic rod to make both pluto and ficsonium rod

[golden nexus]

and the tools are often terrible at showing you this....

so what happens is you have to approch the project in a more agil fashion which is to buid 600/min in using method X. then 600/min using method Y etc.. etc...

[finite latch]

that is my point and the basis of my original question..

does it seem right to max out using uranium on the map maxes out other things too. that if you plan to max uranium, that is about all you are doing on that map due to resource limits.

[spice patio]

1.0 or 1.1?
Make #1038092680493801533 thread with the crash reporter contents copied as text, if on 1.0.
Known issue on 1.1 that causes crashes on long sessions.

[sinful carbon]

1.0 and thanks ill do that

[south sinew]

you can use the converter and SAM to get more of some resources at the cost of others

[tall lantern]

you can play around with the alts in your plan to change what resources you're using

[golden nexus]

Yeah so what happens because you use so much stuff... we can't answer the question because you require other stuff for running basic infrastrucutre which we cannot possibly know in order to answer the question... So in fact your question is already answered. You use a node in the best possible approach you can with the local resources for the area. Then repeat this multilpe times for each node because the builds end up a mash of various recipies rather than one magic bullet

[tall lantern]

but there's no single solution to that

[finite latch]

that is what I needed to know.. there isn't something for me to start from.. I am starting from scratch if I am going to make my idea happen

[tall lantern]

no different to any other production plan, yeah

[golden nexus]

another part of the problem is if you go downt he wrong route somewhere.. you have to be able to change a section of the supply chain 🙂

[finite latch]

not true.. if I ask for an ideal coal power plant.. there will be a general consensus on what that is.. that general consensus doesn't exist once you get to late game factories, it appears

[tall lantern]

coal power has precisely one recipe

coal + water -> power

[crude canyon]

It has 2

Compacted coal

[tall lantern]

compacted coal and coke aren't coal 😛

[finite latch]

same goes for fuel.. most will say to go to turbo fuel or rocket fuel.. there are strong opinions around this because players have already done there own experiments.. seems nuclear isn't as researched

[tall lantern]

rocket fuel definitely doesn't have strong consensus

[crude canyon]

But they go into coal power

[tall lantern]

nor do any of the fuels

[reef basin]

And that isn't even a recipe 😛

[tall lantern]

you'll see a fair few people saying not to bother, and the rest disagreeing on which recipes to use

[golden nexus]

Even with coal plants a general consensus doesn't exist for very experienced players. Take this scenario for example. In the grass fields there really is only 2 coal nodes. So the coal plant in the grass fiels is going to impact steel production. Or? You do something off "normal" like make your oil ref by importing crude oil and put it beside the coal plant. Thus you can then burnt he pet coke in your existing coal plant and free up the coal node again....

This is not "normal" #screenshots message

[crude canyon]

Nuclear is not as popular as rocket fuels for good reason

[tall lantern]

even with rocket fuel you've got many options, and there's no community preference. Do you use base, or go nitro? Which turbofuel alts to use in the process?
The only really agreed-upon part would be to use one of the diluted fuel recipes 😛

[crude canyon]

Not to mention not enough people even get to that point

[golden nexus]

There is a basic consensus on basic coal plants for basic/inexpirenced players which is "do that thing there"... but experienced players later need that resource for something extremely different like "mass stator production" eg the grass fiels has the 4 coal nodes on the lagoon... but o the coast there is 3 pure iron nodes and its a real advatage not to use them for a coal generator for some players

[crude canyon]

Personally I do go nitro so I don't have to go all the way to particle enrichment for nitric acid

[finite latch]

yes, which is all what I said.. less players have done their own research on nuclear power compared to other fuels.

[rancid turret]

turbo blend fuel is well loved

[finite latch]

I can search youtube for a bunch of opinions about fuel pwoer and get a pretty good research basis to start from.. I don't think I can do the same for nuclear

[crude canyon]

I mean
For nuclear you have to deal with waste and radiation.

But for rocket fuel you get the benefit of getting rocket fuel (and it allows you to get ionised from the store pretty much immediately)

[golden nexus]

yeah so i am approaching a goal like yours... but with an agil approach to development of the goal.... eg building power to when i need it but doing it in such a way i can end up with a 500/min eletro rod factory by using quite the different overall strategy

For example this is a 300/min stator factory. It also makes 100/min AI limiters (upgradeable to 2x-3x).. you can see where this is going #screenshots message

[crude canyon]

Man I gotta start building up

[golden nexus]

but that stuff will get shipped to an electro rod factory elsehwere.. eg I should be able to expand the eletro rod with multiple supporting stator and control rod factories

but more importantly... what i am doing is putting myself in a situation where i can change recipie when it starts to go wrong 🙂

[tall lantern]

nothing wrong with just planning it all up front mind

[golden nexus]

or change out significant parts of the supply line

[golden nexus]

yup.. but of course i am also trying to make other significant things long the way....

[crude canyon]

That is smart. Being able to change iron ingots to iron alloy will give you huge benefits

[golden nexus]

Yes.. that means i will change the smelters and double the building.... eg 300 stator becomes 600

[fast dew]

#streams-and-videos message

Can someone explain me what's wrong with that railway?

I have already unfolded the station itself, rebuilt it again in mirror order, put it at the end and at the beginning of the station, but the result is always the same - it is impossible to get to the station and that's it. Although up to the head (on the lake in the crater) it goes perfectly normal

[crude canyon]

Is the station the right side

[fast dew]

Arrow same direction as home station

mews?

[golden nexus]

i don't know why more people don't build up.. i guess we just to used to being flat landers 😛

[crude canyon]

Look at the top of the station.
The bigger side should be on where the train comes from

[cursive crane]

Its a tech you unlock after the dozenth save you've restarted. Normal progression

[crude canyon]

Because you need bps to build a floor above, and you need ways to be able to go a floor above

[tall lantern]

verticality was possible long before blueprints were added

[crude canyon]

The problem is practicality

[tall lantern]

doesn't change

[cursive crane]

You can go up soon as you unlock regular foundations. T1?

So many people don't though because its hard to make verticality look pretty.

Most of the time you resort to a big platform, and if you are real creative maybe you add pillars so it isnt defying physics

[tall lantern]

not exactly difficult to just place a couple foundations

[crude canyon]

Yes it does
Sure you can put a Hypertube to go up here or there

[golden nexus]

You use double ramp or catwalks.. or the new elevator

[cursive crane]

Do you genuinely not know about ramps? Lol

[golden nexus]

Or the hover pack later and the jetpack also works...

[crude canyon]

Too slow, Hypertube to go up, gravity to go down

[golden nexus]

It the large towers i build with the belts ont he outside they are actually built by jumping off the top with a parachute to connect all the external belts in a single drop....

[cursive crane]

Real ogs use the ladders on the sides of machines

[rancid turret]

verticality isn't possible? ah heck someone should have told me #design-and-architecture message

[crude canyon]

No one said it wasn't possible. I said it wasn't as practical as sprawl

[rancid turret]

it's very practical

[golden nexus]

nice... its much better than my soviet architecture choices

[rancid turret]

all my shit is vertical

[golden nexus]

also elevator coming in 1.1.. your excuses are running out 😛

[crude canyon]

I feel like it's slower to move around than using belts or zip lines

[rancid turret]

sprawl is so much less practical

[crude canyon]

Eh, still too slow

[golden nexus]

rocket fuel......

this was built by hand.. in about 5 minutes #screenshots message

[finite latch]

it spatially is harder to build up.. at least in perception.. the size of the character to the size of the machine is hard to perceive.. so the concept of up feels 'farther' than out

[rancid turret]

or this #design-and-architecture message

[misty path]

Hey folks, I'm sure this has been asked plenty! But I like having goals to work towards, even if they are lofty, are there any challange sheets or anything of that nature to keep my eyes out for?

Also, I am just about to unlock MK 2 Miners, am I right in guessing it's time for a complete rebuild of my operations?

[crude canyon]

Yeah my brain is too focused with "I must beat this game asap" to be able to build good buildings

[rancid turret]

only rebuild if you want to, there's never a need to

[golden nexus]

it depends if you built your operations in a way that is scalable

[rancid turret]

my iron pipe/plate/screw factory uses default recipes off of one node

[crude canyon]

Since you just unlocked MK2 I'm guessing you're new.
But about the goals, is the space elevator and the milestones and the mam not enough?

[misty path]

Its kind of a mess of small factories in a small area.

It's really not too much right now, just the basics screws, rods, plates, reinforced plates, wires & cables.

[tall lantern]

no need to rebuild. If you want to use the new miners, just slap a splitter in front, send half to whatever they were being used for before, the other half to the new stuff

[golden nexus]

you can be amazed what you can actually prodsuce of a 4 impure iron nodes eg 48/min smart plate #screenshots message

[rancid turret]

you can rebuild it to be nicer looking and more orderly

[misty path]

New but kinda not, I've been playing since Beta, but was waiting for the big release to properly get stuck in 😄

[misty path]

Oh thats an interesting idea

[misty path]

Yeah, the chaos is kinda driving me nutty a little bit for sure xD

[crude canyon]

Just build above the chaos

[rancid turret]

then rebuild! make it satisfactory

[crude canyon]

Put it all under the carpet

[finite latch]

I tend to build buildings and factories as separate ideas. i.e. a shell and the stuff inside.. this way I can be creative with the way it looks without feeling like I have to tear it down.. I just have to gut the machines and reconfigure the inside when I need to upgrade

[golden nexus]

most of it is about meeting your requirments more... if you have enough X.. why you need more X ?

[rancid turret]

if you don't like it, get rid

[fast dew]

Same situation
#screenshots message

[tall lantern]

that station's backwards

[crude canyon]

Station is pointing on the wrong side

[golden nexus]

the train stations section is wrong way around

[misty path]

Thats a decent idea, I have no idea how people make things look so damn nifty in this game lol. Maybe I should spend some time learning

[golden nexus]

you know its wrong when 5+ people tell you the same thing :S

[misty path]

Haha

[finite latch]

I think its simple.. start copying everyone else until you start forming your own opinions.. then you can turn your opinions into art

[crude canyon]

Personally I build my factories in a way that if I get better things I can just add more machines and it doesn't become a spaghetti mess

[golden nexus]

mostly by putting a box around the chaos with a nice pretty colour selection 😛

[misty path]

Im assuming this includes leaving a fair amount of open space for an influx of raw processing? Alternatively I guess I could just make a processing plant, and transport goods ensuring factories always stay the same

[bitter crow]

is 8 sp per minute any good?

[golden nexus]

This for example is a nice "clean build" #screenshots message but in reality this is actually whats under the build #screenshots message

[crude canyon]

I don't really close my factories...

[golden nexus]

it depends on what phase....

[misty path]

Thanks guys, as usual the satisfactory community be pog

[crude canyon]

What's with people afraid of showing their manifold belts

[golden nexus]

not sure.. but its more like people want to do a "clean build" which means "not belts ont he floor" but it often just means hidden spagetti

[fast dew]

I realized the problem. It was not in one station, but in another...anyway, solved it, thank you

[tall lantern]

for me it's also that I like to see my belts moving, manifolds intentionally back up

[digital depot]

@proper thicket Néstle would be Proud of you 😄

[golden nexus]

you also get "all belts must be upgraded" but in reality i also use "least i can get away with" because it makes debugging easier

[finite latch]

I am less concerned about belts as much as how I am now blueprinting.. whether blueprints should be 'serial' or 'parallel'

[golden nexus]

both.... cause like the vertical builds.. some things are best vertical and some best horizontal.

[finite latch]

not what I mean

[golden nexus]

i know what you mean but also its the same thing.. some things do not work well in paralell and some in serial

[finite latch]

serial = should a blueprint be a way to mass a single machine. an array of smelters, an array of constructors, an array of etc.. and then layout your factories based on those..

parallel = build tileable minifactories that turn raw into processed goods and then tile those together to make factories

[golden nexus]

yes and they are situational

just like construcotrs in a striaght line work sometimes.. in other times they do not work well this way. Just like there is times to habve machines facing away from each others rather than towards each other

[finite latch]

that is what I am exploring.. so if you have examples already built.. it saves me time 😄

[golden nexus]

construcotrs making wire are best facing away from each other... since they are going to produce more than the belt speed. But if your making cable then facing towards each other is also good... cause it naterually splits and mergs the belts 😛

you get patterns and the patterns work in some places and not others

[bitter crow]

im doing 2 atm

phase 2

[golden nexus]

So you need 1,000?

[bitter crow]

yep

[golden nexus]

So it will take 2 hours or so to complete? Do you want to complete it faster? Do you have the other parts built?

[bitter crow]

im rebuiling my whole factory

i can finsih the other two i reckon

and 20 rip

[golden nexus]

i will just tease you with this 😛 #screenshots message

[reef basin]

Could also just build new and have two

[bitter crow]

cries

[bitter crow]

the factory is expandable

meaning that i can basically just add onto it infinitely

[golden nexus]

then best expand the factory to support the expanding factory needs

[cursive crane]

Why build one factory when 2 do same job but better

[bitter crow]

atm im getting pure coal for the foundries

[reef basin]

Then expand it and don't rebuild

[bitter crow]

my current factory?

[digital depot]

@fast dew 1 Blocksignal each staion entrance and 1 in the middle

[fast dew]

#streams-and-videos message

@digital depot For what? There's only 1 train there

[digital depot]

so

still need signals

dont question the answer if you get a answer to your problem

[fast dew]

I thought signs were only needed when combining colocations for different trains?

[digital depot]

no

[fast dew]

But my problem has already been answered - I just put the home stations on the wrong side. Okay, I get the signs at the entrance. But in the middle, where's the principle?

[digital depot]

also if im right the "round end " of the station need to face away from your monorail not into it

so you enter the station and the locomotive stops in the station end

[fast dew]

I turned all the stations around now the train runs normally between them as intended

[digital depot]

alright if its working its fine ,.. when i had the problem months ago it´s been solved by adding 3 signals ,.. 2 didnt work for me ,..

but if its solved ,.. Great !

[fast dew]

Are problems arising because of the signs? Tell me more for the future.

[tall lantern]

signals are only important if you have more than one train on the line

[bitter crow]

#off-topic-media

[digital depot]

basically you want to avoid the trains crashing in any case so you will need to set Signals in a decent distance from each other ,.
to set the tracks in "Blocks" each block can only be used from 1 train at a Time ,...

the more Blocks the closer they are ,...

most important are any kind of intersection ,.. and high traffic intersections need Pathsignal most recommeded ,.. but only on the Direction of Travel side at "entrance" of the intersection ,..l.

[tall lantern]

(note that path signals are not required for most intersections, and if poorly placed, might actually hurt throughput)

[crude canyon]

It depends
Once I was making fuel power, taking in heavy oil residue and water and making enough fuel for 3 generators.
I overclocked 2 and just put it all in a blueprint, one of my best blueprints imo

I've also done a modular frames BP. These take a bit longer than the manifold ones, but they can help a lot

But I've also done regular ones. But of course you need 1 for every direction

Also, it can't do complex chains

There's no oil to rocket to power bp

[finite latch]

I build omni-directional

I wrap the output over top (or under) so the inputs and outputs are stacked on one side

[crude canyon]

I mean you need a manifold to the left a manifold to the right

[finite latch]

yes, and I wrap both to one side

[crude canyon]

But yeah it's really your choice

[finite latch]

like this -> #screenshots message

[crude canyon]

Yeah that's the left side

Man I got to start using fused wire

[misty path]

Okay, hauled everything down, now to try make something modular so I dont have to do that again xD

[crude canyon]

You could have just gone somewhere else so you didn't have to delete anything

But I guess this place already has a power line

[misty path]

Also many chests of all my materials

[bitter crow]

GOD I WANT TRAINS

[crude canyon]

Sink it all

[misty path]

Thats actually an idea

Cause the area I'm in is really hard to work with in terms of floor space

[crude canyon]

I feel like I'm the only guy with a bone to pick with trains

[finite latch]

I feel like wanting trains is like wanting a kid to talk.. when they don't, you want them too.. once they start, you want them to stop..

[misty path]

Ive never gotten that far, looking forward to it xD

[bitter crow]

I DONT WANNA DRAG A CONVEYOR BELT ACROSS HALF THE MAP

[crude canyon]

Drones gang rise up

[bitter crow]

caps sorry

[bitter crow]

drones are too far ahead

[reef basin]

Then don't, build near nodes

[bitter crow]

im on tier 5 i think and im out here building a megafactory

[finite latch]

drones > trains for distance
trains > drone for volume

[crude canyon]

Yeah and then put it in the depot

The only thing you need to spread out is power, but hopefully there's power towers by that point

[bitter crow]

i dont have manufacturseesesesesr

[crude canyon]

Btw the depot is disgustingly broken imo
Not even digital storage was this broken

[bitter crow]

what does it do

[golden nexus]

how do you mean?

[crude canyon]

Digital storage mod.
You would have slots and you put items in those slots

[golden nexus]

i mean the depot part...

[crude canyon]

The depot just gives you X stacks for each items

[bitter crow]

ill start working towards depot

[crude canyon]

And you can take it out whenever

[golden nexus]

yeah its worth it... it connects the bins to you inventory

[misty path]

Okay so, if I sink everything - what's a bare minimum id want for a re-starting location?

[golden nexus]

where did you start?

[misty path]

Ermmm, not sure how to tell you that answer UwU

[crude canyon]

Are you restarting from 0?

[finite latch]

don't recycle first.. start some where else.. when the first factory is no longer used.. then recycle it

[golden nexus]

its north forest with mutiple pure iron nodes, some concrete and a copper node right?

and a little water

[misty path]

I already dismantled my first stuffies, yeah and some poisonous areas

Yeah!

If it helps cords are -398, 2247

[crude canyon]

Iron plates, rods, screws, rips, rotors

Wire and cable and a lot of concrete

And power

[misty path]

Oh yeah I meant more like what would I want from an area to be a good set up for a while, (nodes water, surface area etc?)

[crude canyon]

Steel

Normally near iron there's copper and concrete
But coal is a lot rarer

[finite latch]

water.. liquids are harder to move than solids

[misty path]

Okay thanks folks, ill go exploring in a bit 🙂

[leaden turret]

don't think people die from heart attacks while peeing

🥁

[golden nexus]

yeah they are hard to move pre train

[crude canyon]

You can always build above terrain

[golden nexus]

just build vertical

[misty path]

Hmmm yea, maybe not sky island but vertical could work

[crude canyon]

Fine Mist, next thing I do will be building my manifolds vertically

[reef tundra]

Is there a launch date announced yet?

[tall lantern]

1.0 launched last year

[golden nexus]

its not big problem 😛 #screenshots message

[reef tundra]

I meant 1.1

[tall lantern]

no

[crude canyon]

Is the only way to make the vertical splitters by snapping on a lift?

[leaden turret]

refer to #announcements

[reef tundra]

😲

[tall lantern]

"when it's ready" is as good as you'll get, as usual, until it's actually announced

[leaden turret]

is not bethesda, it won't be launched before it's ready

[bitter crow]

ada said that the dimensional depot only helps with my inventory

does it also function as some kind teleporter?

[finite latch]

bing says otherwise lmao

[leaden turret]

eww, bing

[finite latch]

how else was I suppose to get a response to this inquiry?

[bitter crow]

aw shucks

[finite latch]

"When a person is having a bowel movement or is urinating, they unconsciously hold their breath while straining on the toilet. It can lead to a sudden increase in blood pressure, which stresses the heart."
-Bing

accordingly to bing, its equally as hard to move solids as liquids.. and equally as costly apparently

[crude canyon]

We have drones for that

[bitter crow]

im on tier 5 dawg

no tier

[crude canyon]

It's still op af because you can just make 100 auto wiring somewhere and when it's ready you just take it from the depot

[leaden turret]

unless your diet is taco bell, pretty sure solids are harder to move

[bitter crow]

ah

[crude canyon]

So effectively a better drone in this situation

[bitter crow]

i wanna be able to automatically make everything i can make before i move on to phase 3

[finite latch]

I still can argue that coffee stain only gave us a toilet that excepts solids, not liquids.. so game world applied, liquids are still harder to move

[wet shoal]

Did you know that the letter A originally symbolized a cow

[bitter crow]

damn

so im jsut named COW

[wet shoal]

Indeed. You can still kinda see it if you flip the letter upside down. Two horns and the face.

[bitter crow]

cow noise MOOOOO

[leaden turret]

did you know whenever you reply to someone it looks like their avatar is a head on a stick figure holding their knees sitting on a stool?

[finite latch]

did you know the 27th letter of the alphabet was &.. it was pronounced 'et' and the root of where words like etcetera (meaning 'and the rest'). Children were taught to say the abc's with this at the end like you would think. X, Y, Z and per se and. than is why we call it the ampersand today.

[bitter crow]

thats it im renaming myself cow

done

[wet shoal]

Nope, thanks for another piece of obscure knowledge i can throw at people when the right moment arrives.

[wet shoal]

respectable dedication to the cause

[bitter crow]

ill prob change it back when people start asking why im named cow

[wet shoal]

Well at least you will have a good story to tell

[leaden turret]

just wait for someone named bart to show up.

don't have a cow, man

[leaden turret]

one should always be concerned by obscure knowledge thrown by cthulu

[bitter crow]

does any1 wanna check out my world

[wet shoal]

Oh for f*cks sake

My whole factory plan just blew up into my face

because I cant get 1200 ore out of my miner

Why do they only have one port

[golden nexus]

you get 96% right?

[wet shoal]

MK5 belt

[golden nexus]

oh... get mk6 belt

[wet shoal]

On it

[golden nexus]

most pioneers have already reached this stage by this time

[wet shoal]

Ada told me I perform exactly as expected

[golden nexus]

what were the expectations?

[abstract heron]

fused frames and cooling system at alumin build due to 3k gas

[wet shoal]

If I remember correctly the line went like...
"I know everything about you, and can anticipate all of your behavior, therefore, everything you do is expected, and you perform exactly as expected"
Even tho I overshot ficsit expectations.

Dont let pioneers have any ego, else they slack off.

[abstract heron]

ii am debating if i should use that 3k gas or not

u know i am already using 1650 and 1500 gas

i am going to make 9444 RF maxeek

i wish the customzier u can have fluids painted with like purple is HOR only it has inside HOR water is blue etc etc

i mean in the gereneral game of Satisfactory maxeek

[ocean frost]

What's going on

[naive pendant]

I assume it’s the Al pronunciation joke

[normal tangle]

I should take a week or 2 at some point to play with some of these masters I see in Design/architecture and Math/Meta and learn some stuff cause damn I can't do half of what they do. but i'd like to learn a thing or 2 xD

[normal tangle]

english vs colonists english

[naive pendant]

There is a fair amount of mod, SCIM usage for people that post in #design-and-architecture as they add powerful tools and time savings.

Just a btw that you can’t inherently do everything you see in just vanilla.

[normal tangle]

yeah i didn't even think of that. I haven't even thought to mod Satisfactory xD

i usually try and beat a game at least once first

but almost every time I get aluminum set up i've grown tired of the game by then so maybe it's time

aluminum always feels like such a chore after everything else has been so simple

[south sinew]

I found aluminium pretty simple

[naive pendant]

Yea, that’s about the point where you’ve gotten to play with all the mechanics and progressing slows down a lot. So pretty common to fizzle out there.

[south sinew]

being able to throw mk5 belts on everything without a worry was pretty great

[normal tangle]

really? maybe i'm just in a bad location then. cause the 3 resources I needed were no where near eachother so i had to pipe/belt all of it to a completely different location (only thing I had to do that for) then from there I had to do the normal math/new buildings which is pretty par for the course but it just feels like three times the work to me compared to everything else up to that point

I never did get to play with the dimensional stuff though so maybe that's my problem

i didn't even unlock it til after aluminum

[dreamy torrent]

dimensional stuff I unlocked asap. like, shortly after coal i think

[south sinew]

oh yeah, always go full dimensional

[naive pendant]

Yea, aluminum has the puzzle of dealing with byproduct water which is tricky. And it forces you to do long distance logistics. It can be a lot.

[normal tangle]

but i know my playstyle isn't the most optimized either. xD early game i'd usually sit and craft half the stuff manually to speed it along instead of letting factories do it all xD and i'd go watch a movie or something xD

[dreamy torrent]

i literally just unlocked aluminum. and whats worse, i have almost 900 hours in the game and have never gotten passed aluminum

[normal tangle]

i'm only at 300 hours but yes xD

[south sinew]

I built mine on the far left, in the sea next to bauxite, so I ran uh, quartz and coal I think over there which was not too bad and water was right there

[dreamy torrent]

i typically just make a new run and do it all over again up to this point lol

[boreal musk]

dont want to recycle waste water? just turn all of it into wet concrete or pure ingots

[south sinew]

but not having dimensional is going to make the game really suck for sure, will make building anything way more annoying

[normal tangle]

hmm i should try the more challanging area's. I started in the dessert on this last run and it was super flat and convienent until aluminum

[dreamy torrent]

I have to think of a good place to put an aluminum factory, since its all spread apart so far

[south sinew]

I started in the green fields, the easy start area, then went up there for aluminium

[normal tangle]

yeah I haven't started there since I realized how easy combat was xD

can basically just melee everything

[ocean frost]

Aluminum is coal, bauxite and water you don't need much water

[normal tangle]

yeah but that parts just he math

the math is the easiest part for me xD, it's having to get belts set up through the forest and stuff that was annoying

[ocean frost]

Just pipe the excess water back into the first stage

[dreamy torrent]

want to make it look good and then realize theres tons of the map you've never seen before and wind up just cutting everything in its path down

[normal tangle]

don't you need it for nitric or something?

[south sinew]

and quartz

[normal tangle]

it's like a forest with a bunch of stone. can cut down the trees ( i normally do) but can't do anything about the stone pillars and arches

you can't even blast those away

[ocean frost]

You get silica you can sink the excess scrap till you get pure

[normal tangle]

oh it's silica in the off water? why did i think it was nitric xD

[south sinew]

sure, but it seems to be harder to get more bauxite than more quartz, my spot had plenty of quartz not too far away, I made 720 aluminium ingots/min in my first setup

[normal tangle]

yeah there's like 3 normal/pure quartz over by my coal

just had to blast the rocks blocking the entrance

[golden nexus]

not really all the bauxite is in a direction line across the middle of the map

[normal tangle]

maybe i'll try again once 1.1 is on full release

right now i'm pew pewing in elite dangerous xD

[ocean frost]

You don't need a lot to unlock stuff, I normally fill a truck and take it to my base to turn into whatever I need to and do something more permanent when I have the alts unlocked

[south sinew]

it's great for all the mk5 belts you could ever want

[golden nexus]

the other reality is you need a single pure node of bauxite to finish the game

[ocean frost]

The great thing about it is you can process all of the aluminum you need in one factory if you want to

[normal tangle]

yeah it's kinda funny how you just skip 2 and 4 xD or at least I do

I go iron plates, steel beams, aluminum xD

[ocean frost]

There are only a handful of nodes tbh one is close to the sam ores

[reef basin]

Even impure will do 😛

[mossy moon]

wihtout overclocking even technicaly

(or hand mining)

[static surge]

Is a 600-700m long train reasonable or just a waste of resources

Cuz I don't have automated fuel close to base (yet) so I would probably just wait until I build my oil train

[oblique aspen]

do you mean an actual train with dozens of cars? or a rail line that long/short?

because an actual train that long feels silly for actual usefulness

[hidden sparrow]

The other other reality is that you can beat the game with only placing down the hub, the space elevator and a few end game constructors, everything else could be done by hand :)

[jaunty jewel]

maths is the best subject

[static surge]

You can't because you can't get oil

or process it

[hidden sparrow]

• 1 refinery + 1 oil pump + 1 pipe

[static surge]

What do you do with byproducts? If you need this then you need power as well

Solid byproducts are just sinkable

but liquid ones can't be deleted

[crude canyon]

so, how different would this game be if you could control distribution, like 12% goes here and 13 parts per min go there

if programmable splitters worked like you thought they worked

[static surge]

my factory would be extremely efficient and i wouldn't have to rely on overflow

[orchid sphinx]

🤔 where do i go if i found a bug

[placid stirrup]

report a bug
QA site
provide feedback

one of those should pop up checkit
edit: darn, guess not

[fossil ice]

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[orchid sphinx]

poggers

[hidden sparrow]

You can just flush it

In the pipes, or even in the refinery, you can put it straight in the UI bin

[placid stirrup]

that isn't automated though

[hidden sparrow]

Who needs automation in my factory game