❔┃ask-the-community

[brittle atlas]

it's pretty difficult to actually brick a timeline

even if you get some super rippy combo you can probably still struggle through if you try enough times and hit a quick objective

[waxen sundial]

PoE having only 6 tries for each map is pretty buns.

thankfully nothing like that in this game other than the dungeons

[deft moth]

Tempest strike proc spell scale somehow from melee? Or melee is just proc ability, and spells has nothing to do with it, and can be counted like just regular spells (except not casted)?

[brittle atlas]

the spells are only spells and the melee is only melee

so the spells get no benefit from melee modifiers

they're two different parts of the skill

[sonic kraken]

Yeah I imagine that i'd feel a significant difficulty spike before completely bricking my timeline but the possibility of this happening is a bit worrying

[brittle atlas]

Yeah, I've pushed quite far into corruption levels and have at times picked up more offensive modifiers than I could handle

but even then I managed to eventually run the modifiers out

[waxen sundial]

implicits are just the single stats aboce forging potential right?

[sonic kraken]

Yep

[brittle atlas]

they are the stats implicit to the item base

like every pair of solarum greaves has armor, movement speed, and fire res

[sonic kraken]

Basically anything outside of the usual 2 prefixes, suffixes and the sealed mod

[waxen sundial]

does % <any> damage include DoT?

[sonic kraken]

Yes as long as it's the correct damage type

[waxen sundial]

so like instead of searching for fire damage or fire DoT you could do Elemental and kinda blanket everything? same with physical?

[sonic kraken]

Yes but usually targeted modifiers (aka "+ x damage type") are stronger than the generic modifiers like + elemental damage

[waxen sundial]

like have higher roll numbers? thats fair

[sonic kraken]

Yep. So if you specialize in DoT you'd still want specific DoT modifiers instead of the generic ones

[waxen sundial]

miss the days when attributes would give you res

[brittle atlas]

I miss the days of set affixes

[waxen sundial]

?

[brittle atlas]

there used to be craftable affixes that were stronger if you had multiple of the same affix on different gear slots

[waxen sundial]

i feel like i kinda remember that but not really

[brittle atlas]

so like "set elemental resistance", "set increased dodge", "set glancing blow"

[waxen sundial]

ive had the game for a while

OH YEAH

remember now

[sonic kraken]

How does the unique drop rate blessing interact with increased rarity from monolith mods?

[waxen sundial]

probably multiplicative

or additive rather

im actually unsure now cause im not 100% on the difference between the two lol

[sonic kraken]

If it's a multiplier then it would explain the tiny roll ranges. But if it's additive then it's kinda weak

[waxen sundial]

probably enough so we see them but dont get too many

[sonic kraken]

The difference is that increased rarity generally gives more uniques, sets and exalted items. The blessing itself specifically targets uniques

[waxen sundial]

They were dropping like hot cakes for me though in Temporal idk if theres any modifier in there or anything

[charred mauve]

So, can someone tell me it is worth buy game now if i want new exp after other ARPG?

[sonic kraken]

Imo LE is definitely worth the price. I played PoE a lot and was looking for some alternative (Besides any Diablo game) and while LE is a lot simpler (which is understandable because it's a much younger game) it does have it's charm. The crafting system is great and the player has a lot of control over the items but you can only craft to a certain tier so you can't make a OP item from a white item like in PoE for example. If you want to go further beyond you need to find a drop-only tier of the affix that interests you which are significantly stronger than the max tier of craftable affixes. This makes loot more exciting and pretty much creates your "personal chase items"

[tranquil nimbus]

Do higher level monos yield rarer loot? Or could I just run like 58 monos and get a bunch of rare stuff too

[charred mauve]

I played Grim Dawn a lot, game catch me with flexible building opportunity+"sudoku" with devotion was pretty fun. So, will I get the same exciting building process in LE?

[sonic kraken]

I didn't play Grim Dawn so I can't confirm nor deny if you'll get a similar experience but currently i'd say that making a build is a very fun process and respeccing in case you'll change your mind is pretty easy so I think you won't be let down in this regard

[charred mauve]

hmm, sounds good, thx for review

[sonic kraken]

The game is on Steam so you can always try it for 2 hours and refund the game if you don't like it

[charred mauve]

yes, but game like this is some more than just 2h, xD

[sonic kraken]

I mean obviously you won't see the whole picture in just 2 hours but LE doesn't artificially stretch out the gameplay so i'd say 2 hours will be enough to tell if you like it or not

[charred mauve]

oke, good hint, thx a lot

+i saw news about multiplayer patch, and it's even more tempting

[sonic kraken]

Yep multiplayer beta is coming in the next patch which is just around the corner

[sonic kraken]

They give higher level bases which leads to better crafting opportunities. It's not a direct rarity upgrade but the items you get will have stronger implicits. Also higher level monos tend to have more difficult modifiers which leads to bigger rarity increases. In short: You don't get "rarer" loot but you do get stronger loot

[tranquil nimbus]

ohh gotcha

Cool, thanks!

[tranquil nimbus]

Oh one more question. If the legendary I want requires a specific level, do I have to do the monos around that level? Or does it just require my character being that level?

[sonic kraken]

I don't have a concrete answer for that but following the logic of higher level monos = higher level bases i'd guess that if a unique requires certain level it wouldn't drop in monos that are lower level than the requirement

[tranquil nimbus]

Gotcha, thank you

[brittle atlas]

both, the required level to equip is also the required zone level to drop

[tranquil nimbus]

Gotcha

[sonic kraken]

Do boss enemies count as rares?

[cold plaza]

nah, they are bosses.

[waxen sundial]

What do

[sonic kraken]

It says what it does right on the tin

[waxen sundial]

yes, but words to big for small brain

[sonic kraken]

When you have let's say a T1 health affix with max roll this glyph will force the next tier to also be a max roll

[waxen sundial]

ah alright nice

when i take off this sword my crit multiplier doesnt change, why?

wait, is it because its not global its melee?

[sonic kraken]

I guess so. Currently the stat sheet shows mostly the global modifiers so you can't really tell how much actual crit you have

[tranquil nimbus]

I killed the 75 mono boss and it says "confront" but I don't see him. Is this a bug? Spoiler in case people care about that here idk

[rare fjord]

hp regen can be negative? (decay hp instead)

[brittle atlas]

You can’t get negative regen as far as I know, but there are effects called drain and decay on acolyte that with degen your HP and can be counteracted with regen, leech, etc.

[rare fjord]

ty

[brittle atlas]

Some uniques also drain a percent of current HP

[woven fulcrum]

Not sure but that might be a bug.
If you finished killing him, did you get an activation window that gave you your options for passive reward?
what usually happens upon killing him
Is a success window pops up
as well as a window that lists three passives for you to choose from.
If this didn't happen you may have had some bug glitch
report it at
!bug

[tranquil nimbus]

yeah I chose the lightning resist. But I didn't talk to him

[woven fulcrum]

you don't have to. the 'confront' was basically fight him.
You'd be safe to open the portal then and return.
so maybe not a bug
more a suggestion to explain why you didn't realize it,
could help for future.

[tranquil nimbus]

Ah yeah gotcha, cuz when you fight him in the main story you have to speak to him

[steep robin]

So this means that you can't negate the penalties at higher levels? So if I have 75% resistance at level 30, I still have it at max level, but the enemies will penetrate it harder and there's nothing I can do about that? (and if I had 0, they would pen into the negative I'm guessing?)

Just trying to grasp how res capping is intended

[acoustic thicket]

basically, if you have them at 75% and are in a level 30 zone, then you'd be taking 45% less damage. but by the time you hit zones with 75, you'll be taking 0% less damage.
if you had less than 75%, you'd take the difference as more damage, so 65% res is 10% more damage taken of that type.

This is contrasted by other games (like poe) where the it's balanced around you taking 75res , and being at 73 res is 8% more damage

Being at 65 Res in poe would be 40% less, so this is just a more forgiving version of resistances.

[brittle atlas]

Correct. If your sheet resists are 75%, you’re good.

[woven fulcrum]

Query. I have a horde of Runes of Ascendance.
Don't ask, it makes my head melt just thinking about it.
I only used them once to try to get a set helm (which i did after like a dozen-ish.)
Do uniques created from these have the same chances for LP?

[stone granite]

I believe it's lower chance for LP

I usually just use them on boots

[sonic kraken]

If I understand the resistance shred correctly having overcapped resistances would first shred my overcap before starting to shred my actual resist right?

[static glacier]

Yes Overcapping helps against the shred that some mobs have. It does not help against the level based pen all mobs have

[balmy current]

https://tenor.com/view/ronseal-tin-exactly-what-it-says-gif-15344292

[balmy current]

But it's also treated as lvl 100 (which would be the max lvl for chance to get LP).

[deft moth]

Are there any good endgame shaman builds focusing like on spells/melee spells. It seems like it is very hard to make shaman build without trying to spam maelstrom/thorn totems or nearly becoming druid. Right side of shaman passives feel so useless for some reason ;/

[sharp quartz]

Dont think so... I have an old shaman build gathering dust cause I gave up trying to make it work well over a year ago.. I seem to recall some Earthquake build that worked a while ago but I also recall it suffering from changes... The build guide list doesnt show anything recent and all the older 0.8.4 are totem/spriggan type builds...

[safe relic]

anyone else got a fix for last epoch not launching off of steam? its not something im willing to put much effort into so im posting here lol

[sharp quartz]

You are likely gonna have to put some effort in explaining what the problem is tho - there could be plenty of reasons.... Verifying game files through steam usually fixes most problems, as does lowering general quality settings. If not, you can try and run the exe directly from the install folder or you could try and install the standalone (non-steam version) which is downloadable from the link in your EHG account page. If the issue is unrelated to steam, like performance or driver problem/windows issue etc then none of those suggestions are likely to work.

[safe relic]

i did try verifying and reinstalling, it doesnt seem to want to work off of steam for whatever reason

using the base client works perfectly fine so im just gonna stick with that

im mainly asking if anybody else has encountered this issue

[sharp quartz]

I recall a similar post on the forum - cant remember if it was you? Steam can sometimes get its knickers in a knot - especially with betas that have lots of patches over a fair amount of time... It may need a total removal from Steam - including manually removing appmanifest files & left over folders - i.e. getting it to a clean base - and then trying a reinstall... Honestly, if I were you and the standalone is fine, then I would use it until the next patch drops, then try via Steam again if you still wanted to play via Steam then.

[deft moth]

Can chill/freeze effect make frostbite? Or those 2 are completly different things?

[safe relic]

Nah wasn't me, thanks for the answer though! I've got a similar issue with a different game but it lets me open it with different options so I can kinda get around it

[safe relic]

Unironically if you wanna make shaman work play sentinel instead. It's been a long while since I've played the game so I can't remember what everything is called but there's a build that works the same as shamans maelstrom but it actually deals good damage while being much easier to use.

[copper fable]

Shaman and druid have too much overlap currently imo.

Shamans thing was nature spells and attunement, but now that druid has a cold theme and nature spells as well as better attribute stacking mechanics I just dont get what shamans gimmick is supposed to be. But im pretty sure the devs are well aware of shamans lackluster build options its just a matter of time before it is modernized.

Shamans only current theme it really can deliver on is totems, but even that is done by injecting with druid by using spriggan, since thorn totems just become way better by simply going spriggan form... And thorn totems are the only viable totems for the most part.

[marsh maple]

shaman is still in line to be changed, while Druid has just been changed. Shaman's tre is like 2 years old at this point

[copper fable]

yeah but its gonna be a hot minute I think since 0.9 is mostly gonna be MP/minor changes, so shaman fans just gotta wait 😔

[marsh maple]

its ok

ive been busy in PoE land

so I can wait

[copper fable]

I think the most exciting part should be how they change shaman since now that druid has such a heavy lean in on cold I think they can let shaman go heavy on lightning 😏

[marsh maple]

I just had someone tell me that I speak too much with my nose, and im like bruh thats my voice all the time

yeah I want Shaman to be like a catastrophe

in terms of its skills

big storms, big EQs, big avalanches etc

[copper fable]

Shaman is my favorite class flavorwise and since druid rework was such a hit for the flavor and thematics I cant wait for shaman

And yeah I agree, shaman should be all about big. Big totems, Big sticks, Big nature

[marsh maple]

if you do want to play a strong shaman build, I had uploaded a version recently that utilizes Maelstrom to its fullest effects

and it is the most efficient to play on Shaman because of the - totem cost and the spell damage per totem

[deft moth]

Nah. Sometimes I just want to some nodes actually could make sense and be usefull. For example right now I got attention at BMs https://i.imgur.com/acokZBQ.png
And decided that it COULD actually works with something like this
https://i.imgur.com/0KdNEmy.png

Which prob would make sense and potentially create a new interaction/build. Thought it doesnt work because hp "lose" doesnt count as dmg "received". Maybe other effect can cause self-damage to thorn idol, because it definately wont work if it would depend only on damage taken by enemys

[woven fulcrum]

everyone's a critic.
want to REALLY drive them nuts?
little voice tip
pull your nose up like you're 'wrinkling' it and then talk
you'll make their heads pop. 😄

[marsh maple]

lol

[minor kindle]

0.8.5d fixes a bug where aftershocks cannot be affected by the Shatterquake node, which makes it possible to build my Cold Aftershock Shaman

the effect is actually good, although not necessarily OP but a lot of fun

[tranquil nimbus]

Quick question. Do the "Rare x armor" nodes have chances of giving uniques?

[cursive cave]

Can sopmeone tell me why most tooltips hide behind others?

Can't read them

[sharp quartz]

Sometimes does happen depending on resolution and where the mouse point is... usually resets or moves if you try alt again but it probably could use some better fixing - devs did say they are working on new tooltips - hope this includes how they are placed/made visible...

[cursive cave]

Does this passive's "final hit" means that if I take...

This, it means it procs only half the time?

[surreal plinth]

Hello, can we start play multiplayer from 0.9? Or multiplayer characters will be deleted after beta?

[balmy current]

No, "final hit" means the hit at the end of the Lunge, not any damage dealt on the way.

[balmy current]

They won't be deleted, they'll be transferred to a "standard" league.

[boreal oasis]

Hi guys! Can you tell me if the damage dealt by thorn totems increases equally with minion damage and minion physical damage stats?

[balmy current]

Yes

+100% increased minion damage is the same as +100% increased minion phys damage

assuming you've not take the node to convert to cold

[boreal oasis]

no. ty for answer

[cursive cave]

What do you guys think it's the best boss-killer (single target DD) skill for Sentinel?

[sharp quartz]

I vote for Kryces FG, Shield Throw, Manifest Armour build...

[cursive cave]

ONE skill from SENTINEL, please

[woven fulcrum]

Javelin Holy Trail. Melts stuff.

[sharp quartz]

Not sure you can just use a single skill... the best DPS for single target is usually a combination of skills irrespecitve of class... EDIT: clearing can usually be accomplished by a single skill fairly easily... but single nukes usually need more than one skill.

[tranquil nimbus]

This tbh. In my build every skill contributes to buffing my dps lol

[surreal plinth]

@balmy current Thanks! I dont like leagues in diablo and poe and hope standart will be playable, not broken like in poe

[balmy current]

And yet he asked for a single target boss killing skill, not one for clearing....

[balmy current]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-不造-i-dont-know-gif-5094560

[minor kindle]

Bleed Manifest Armor

Although I think its damage is pointless completely overflowing

[cursive cave]

I fail to confirm a theory. People say "yes", but I cannot see it myself. Take Lunge. Has a passive that makes it cast Smite on arrival

Specced Smite with Electricity and Fissure, but neither cast when Smite is cast with Lunge. Help?

[delicate dust]

Do you have the mana available for their costs?

[cursive cave]

I assume so, yes. 71 MP, lunge uses 8, smite uses 3

[delicate dust]

Order of Lagon can be a bit hard to see. Fissure has a 0.5 second cooldown, so should be cast under one of the three smites

[cursive cave]

Sidequestion: Smite apparently has Void damage, but can't find a node with it...

[delicate dust]

Converted through the Void Knight tree

[cursive cave]

Ah ok

Small spoiler: I'm 22, when do I become a VK?

[delicate dust]

At the start of Chapter 4, normally reached around level 25-28

Could be faster depending on how much you're exploring

[cursive cave]

Ok, so I should hoard all passive points I can?

[delicate dust]

You can talk to a Chronomancer to reset passive points at any point for a gold cost. You need at least 20 points invested into sentinel before you can invest into a mastery tree

[cursive cave]

Gotcha, thanks

What are these? They are not marked on the map nor they seem to belong to a quest...

[sharp quartz]

They arent anything in the campaign... but they are in parts of the end-game and have a purpose (no spoilers from me)....

[balmy current]

What Vapour means is that the model is used after the campaign rather than that particular thing.

[sharp quartz]

Have I thanked you yet this month Dad?

[balmy current]

https://tenor.com/view/unappreciated-derek-muller-veritasium-ungrateful-ingrate-gif-20488377

[dapper swift]

It doesn't scale extra because I got the skill on the right of it? Elemental Vulnerability I mean

[delicate dust]

not 100% on what you mean, but by "Oil coating on hit" not scaling it means it will not scale to more than 100% application rate. It's stating that investing more points will simply not cause that part to increase, not more than one oil coating per skill use that hits. You can still stack multiple stacks of oil coating by landing multiple skill hits.

if it weren't to say that, you would expect with a second point invested to be granted two stacks of oil coating per skill use that hits

[dapper swift]

The question more was why I can't scale the first line of the skill not more oil coating on hit

[delicate dust]

you can, put more points into it, the number goes up, then elemental vulnerability converts that number to elemental damage instead of fire damage. the "does not scale with points invested" is a header, it refers to stats below it

[dapper swift]

Ah, I see, makes sense, thanks

[fresh atlas]

As a void knight, how can I add sigils of hope from the paladin specialization to my build? or is that not possible?

[midnight timber]

you can do points int he other specialization up to about halfway

[fresh atlas]

ty!

[dapper swift]

You don't need inc or added Physical dmg on elemental skills?

[balmy current]

You can if you want but unless the skill converts all added damage then it'll be scaled by % increased phys damage (or % melee/spell depending on what skill it is)

It's not PoE, you don't get to double dip on flat added damage & damage conversions.

[dapper swift]

Yeah, as I imagined it to be like thanks

[dapper swift]

I guess similar to poe, you ideally want your resistances capped end game?

[balmy current]

Yes, but it's not as punishing as in PoE

[tranquil nimbus]

Well yeah but it's not as punishing. I have terrible resists pushing 80 monos

I should probably figure that out :D

[waxen sundial]

20 cap for armor shred?

[wide sentinel]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/ailments/

all the info u need is there

[raven dove]

!multiplayer

[ripe brook]

Multiplayer is still being worked on. Here's an update: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/official-last-epoch-multiplayer-faq/42036.

[fierce kraken]

tldr no cap but the are diminishing returns with a hard cap at 85% more dmg for phys

[tired grove]

Hey folks,
just bought the game and getting an error LE-51. Cant open a ticket on the websites support because there is no fitting account issue?!
Where can i get help? the support channel on discord also says: write a ticket... very confusing support process for new players....

Error occurs when trying to create a last epoch account btw

[sharp quartz]

I'd just log a technical issue with installing/updating and take it from there... To be honest, I cannot find a single reference to LE-51 on either the forum or here on discord or on any support pages... sorry to ask, but is it LE-51 or LE-15

[tired grove]

Its LE-51.
Okay, i worked around it: I could create an account on the website instead of using the games form after installation. Maybe this helps other new players as well.

[sharp quartz]

Honestly the first time i have seen this problem - assuming this is via the steam version?

[tired grove]

Correct.

[acoustic thicket]

Sup, if I get 10% increased damage so it increases both my spell damage and my necrotic damage by 10% in my character sheet, does it mean I get double the value when using a necrotic spell ?

[steep robin]

Can Ethereal Revenant proc Dark Rituals?

I'm gonna be low life so in theory the minion would proc on cd, giving me a speed buff. But Its not a direct cast so my hunch is no. but theyre also combined on the tree so...

(acolyte passives)

Respecced passives and put on reaper form in town, the answer was no

[static glacier]

no you dont. the char screen is just super old and honestly nearly useless bad

[acoustic thicket]

ty !

[balmy current]

No because you're not using a minion skill Ethereal Revenant is a proc.

[dapper swift]

Can you respec all your passive points or you have to do one at the time?

[balmy current]

Nope, it's still one at a time, the devs are aware of it

[strong idol]

Is this normal?

[stone granite]

There is no minimum beyond 1 affix for these

Unusual but not impossible

[brittle atlas]

I wouldn't say its particularly common to get an exalted affix by itself, but it's something that can happen

[waxen sundial]

kinda cool cause you can add what you want, but also not enough FP in the world to make it real good

[coral slate]

anyone have a weird 'invisible' line moving down your screen when you move? Wondering what settings to mess with in graphics to fix it...

[floral badge]

Could be tearing, try turning on V-sync.

[mossy brook]

why is game crashed every time when i tried to enter the Shelterwood (portal on the right hand side which was block at the beginning). After that , now i can't load or even create new character, that will all lead to game crash😫

[raw fern]

If youre using steam try to verify your game files

[mossy brook]

I have verified it twice but it doesn't help

[raw fern]

Please create a post here: https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/technical-support/47 with as much details as possible

[mossy brook]

Sure, thanks

[sharp quartz]

Be sure to include your player.log, le_graphicsmanager.ini and the output of a dxdiag report (if using windows obviously).

[upbeat birch]

Guys i specced into avatar of the spire for my hammer throw for nova but it still rotates arround me

[balmy current]

Avatar of the Spire doesn't disable orbiting, it just fires the hammers in a nova (ie, equidistantly spaced around your character) & they then follow whatever behaviour you've spec'd into (orbiting, flying straight, returning/not returning/etc).

Enra's Technique disables orbitting.

[tired ivy]

Hello there, i wonder what condition the bases items availables in gambling system ? your catacter level ? and how ?

[brittle atlas]

character level up to items that require level 40 at most

[tired ivy]

so, no base > 40 ?

thx

[eager magnet]

I love Enras Technique

[balmy current]

Not from the gambler, no.

[real trellis]

does spirit thorns take bonus's from any other skill like ice thorns?

[woven fulcrum]

what should I add???
Forge Strike. Rive. but heavy on DoT fire/physical. Wearing Maehlin's to convert all bleed to ignite.

[waxen sundial]

alright, anything i need to know about each dungeon boss before doing them? Ive done soulfire which wasnt bad, Ive died to Julra twice in the lvl 55 dungeon at lvl 70, idk if i understand the mechanics of that fight, oh and whats the deal with the Arbor boss?

[acoustic thicket]

swap sides to dodge her big attacks. simple as that for julra really

[waxen sundial]

and for big tree?

[acoustic thicket]

honestly, no clue. haven't fought him but twice and failed both lol

[terse phoenix]

Is this game playable offline now?

[minor kindle]

yes

[long night]

Does endurance threshold only consider health?

[brittle atlas]

yes

[long night]

can you get more than 100% potion heal converted to ward or does it not do anything past 100%?

[static glacier]

Guess its such a useless affixe that nobody ever uses it making answering this question really hard... my guess would be no but i really do not know

[pastel garnet]

you can but it doesnt do anything

[woven fulcrum]

i think it helps for low life build doesn't it? For when the walk across potions

[static glacier]

It reduces the negative effect on ward gain okay

[long night]

what does "effective level for legendary potential" mean? Is it just the level required for that item to drop with potential or the area lvl maybe?

[native sail]

It's basically just a measure of the rarity of LP on it really

Like some go above 100, doesn't mean they can't have LP just that it's extremely rare

[long night]

can this mod kill you or does it round down when at 1hp?

[acoustic thicket]

no it can't kill you

[balmy current]

No, it would say if it did. Generally skills are only affected by 1 skill tree, unless they say otherwise.

[long night]

I've heard dots bleeds/poison are alot better to scale than straight up damage, found a way to get 100 crit chance with 600 multi. Would dots be better?

[woven fulcrum]

Can anybody throw me a bone with some thoughts on what prefix would be good to add to this?
Vitality? Damage over time? crit chance to get faster Reen stacks?
It's for this build I'm toying with: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/jAv9a71o
It's pretty tank but lacks a bit of punch.

[frosty mirage]

I think it is fairly subjective. Some Masteries, such as Sorcerer, have a lot of easy access to crit chance and Crit multiplier sources such as passive skills or skill nodes themselves. BD/MM both have access to MM’s Wound Maker passive which is incredibly powerful albeit I imagine it will be looked at in some way in a cooperative environment.

I think all classes can have viable and good crit builds, some just have easier access to crit/crit multiplier investment wise than others.

[mystic acorn]

Depends on how you apply them and what modifiers you have on those dots. The problem is that both Poison and Electrify(might be Shocked, lightning has 2 ailments) has innate resistance strip built into them. Poison removes 5% poison resistance per stack of poison on the target and Electrify removes 5% lightning resistance per stack. So those two tend to scale better than hit damage because putting a silly amount of stacks on the same target will make all of that type of damage deal much more damage.

[frosty mirage]

Shock is the shred resistance ailment for lightning, but unlike poison, it caps out at 20 stacks for 100%

Also, rip the reign of flurry poison BD, she was truly Queen before the bug fixes, up there with pre-0.8.3 EQ Werebear

[mystic acorn]

I'm still over 5 million sustained DPS on flurry BD. Shadow daggers + shurikens armour is also similarly high.

[balmy current]

Shock is capped at 20 stacks though unlike Poison which is uncapped so Lightning is always going to play a distant second fiddle to Poison

[visual hamlet]

heyoo, i have a small question. is last epoch worth buying? i come from diablo 3, is it similar? what does the game offer?

[delicate dust]

Bees!
Sorry, If you'd like I can provide a serious answer, but it might come off a bit biased coming from me 😉

[visual hamlet]

go for it!

[acoustic thicket]

As someone who played both d3 and poe, last epoch falls into the middle of the two for complexity. It's pretty good. And offers quite a lot of interesting options for skills.

[visual hamlet]

not bad!

but how is the end game? are there seasons? are there ladders? etc

[acoustic thicket]

Seasons aren't a thing yet, but are coming.

Multi-player isn't out yet either. But that's coming next update.

[visual hamlet]

ayo nice

its in beta right?

[acoustic thicket]

Yes.

[urban horizon]

No season yet, there is ladder but since the game is offline the ladder is messed up for now until 0.9 launches, There is arena that is more competitive endgame (has a ladder) then you have Monolith of fate endgame system (Kinda like maps, rifts) and has infinite scaling and then you have area level 100 dungeons

[hasty sorrel]

When forging, what determines the items rarity?

Asking another way, is it possible to fore a normal item and turn it into a magic or rare item? Or a magic item and forge it to a rare or unique item?

I'm still learning the forging system, but it seems like even with the buffs I add to it, nothing changes. Even if I add runes, they don't necessarily change the item rarity, at least in my case. Anyone experience similar? Is this by design?

[urban horizon]

Discovery rune should always make the item Rare, Item rarity in last epoch is 0 affixes = white item, 1-2 affixes = blue item, 3-4 affixes rare and any item with exalted affix is going to be violet. Rune of ascendance can turn items into uniques

[visual hamlet]

how active is the game btw?

[acoustic thicket]

Do you mean update speed?

[visual hamlet]

that and community

or not update speed in particular, but more support for the game

[urban horizon]

Community is not that big atm however there is decent core playerbase. I'd imagine MP will push the number up though

[acoustic thicket]

Update speed is a tad slower than poe expansions, but provides large updates when it does update.
Last time it introduced two big dungeons.
The community is relatively small ATM so not that active.

[visual hamlet]

ah alright!

[cinder talon]

so i have an item that says legendary potential can someone explain this too me?

[acoustic thicket]

If you use the timeless sanctum key, you can at the end of that dungeon combine that unique with an exalted item (purple) to add a number of stats equal to the legendary potential. (so LP 2 = 2 stats)

From the exalted item you smash with it

[cinder talon]

gotcha havnt gotten that far, i assume this is end game stuff

[acoustic thicket]

they have to match types. (so shields with shields etc)

[acoustic thicket]

yeah

[cinder talon]

thanks man

[raven dove]

!multiplayer

[ripe brook]

Multiplayer is still being worked on. Here's an update: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/official-last-epoch-multiplayer-faq/42036.

[tulip gate]

is it possible to craft a Legendary item using different types? Like a Bow and a Shield

[woven fulcrum]

no. unique and exalted items have to be the same type.

[acoustic thicket]

is this overkill for getting a LL setup?

[brittle atlas]

neck, shield, and belt are a bit mediocre imo

unless you have decent legendary for the belt I'd just prefer something with double hp rolls

and a neck on a better base

[acoustic thicket]

@dire mist in response to your question over in dev chat, honestly, i don't think that's a particularly good idea, simply because legendary potential exists. which would let you double it up.

[dire mist]

that is the point :)

[acoustic thicket]

Those items are balanced around those being unique to them, being able to double it up would break their balance more than a standard affix would

they'd have to weaken either the affix till it's worthless, or nerf the unique itself to make up for that.

Also, you step on the toes of the unique's purpose in the first place by taking one of their core affixes and throwing it into the normal affix pool

[dire mist]

doesn't have to be of the same power level

could just be +1dmg per 2 att

[coarse grove]

Yo folks, if I've got multiples of the same relic item, should I still hang onto all of them for something they're useful for later, or are they just taking up inv space?

[dire mist]

do u mean unique?

[coarse grove]

Yeah, I think I do. The orange named items

[dire mist]

ye, unless they have legendary potential the only point of a duped unique is it might have better rolls than your current one

[coarse grove]

Right on, so hang on to LP, get rid of lesser stats. Odds are I'll pick more up later/on diff toons anyway

Thankya!

[waxen sundial]

alright, Emperor of Corpses, am i missing something? How do you dodge the insta kill AoEs

and then the insane DoT poison pool after

[dire mist]

walk away?

it doesn't hit the entire arena

just most of it

[waxen sundial]

if you manage to dodge it the poison pool instantly starts and i believe its the whole arena

[urban horizon]

You move out of the big aoe and once it explodes just move back to the inner area

[brittle atlas]

it's necrotic damage

you need like...20-25% movement speed to get out with just walking

[waxen sundial]

starting with my sword rubbing against his head and trying to vault to the other end is a very not nice situation to be in im finding.

[brittle atlas]

really depends on your movement speed more than anything

a lot of builds can get 50%+ and be completely fine no matter where they're at

or can have movement skills on top of their walking speed

[waxen sundial]

does Lunge have a node to make it not target specific

[brittle atlas]

no

[waxen sundial]

well it seems Sentinel is in need of a movement skill then

[brittle atlas]

shield rush is an option

[waxen sundial]

2h

[brittle atlas]

can spec it to use it with 2h

can also just put on boots with good movement speed and then one of the many uniques that give haste on hit

[waxen sundial]

i might have to, im not having a fun time

im waiting for my exalted boots with exalted movement speed to drop

[acoustic thicket]

@waxen sundial jav also is an option

[woven fulcrum]

I'm finding Shield Rush to be very satisfying.
My current forge guard I forwent Lunge for Shield Rush just to get a field with it and levelled from start to now reached 75.
I have a paranoia but that won't be an option until i hit 85 and at this point, I'm not sure I'll change anyway.

[waxen sundial]

sheesh i killed him but that was easily the hardest boss so far, shield rush saved my life

[sharp quartz]

There is a unique that has this feature...

[sharp quartz]

Honestly, EoC is relatively easy to kill compared to other bosses... The only challenge is getting around his AoE which just requires practise and timing... you dont even need movement skills or massive move speed... Its slightly harder without them and takes a little longer to kill him because you have to stop dps earlier to have enough time to walk away, but of the bosses there are much harder ones imho.... It used to be easier but you can even tank him if you are lucky enough to have min/maxed defences by the time you face him or use things like Rebuke.

[static glacier]

Pro Tipp: Giving him Frenzy below half Health is a bad idea 😉

it shortens the windup time of the big blast ... a lot

[pastel garnet]

is Ashes f Mortality any good after the nerf hammer?

[balmy pulsar]

where do you pick up the flame reave unique ring from? is it abomination cant remember as its been a while since i played

[lunar holly]

it's a random drop, or you can try "The Age of Winter" timeline on empowered for the unique/set ring nodes

[woven fulcrum]

oh yeah, i learned this from experience. 😛

[balmy pulsar]

any of you guys good at making loot filters looking for a spell blade loot filter focusing around fire with skills flame reave firebrand surge elemental weapon and flame ward any help would be great

[sharp quartz]

Have you tried Heavys filters on the forum... they are a good start.... otherwise if you want VERY specific filters you can download appropriate filters from Dammits build planner - just load up a build you aspire to, and download the filter using the icon on the left...

[balmy pulsar]

cheers found one hope it works lol

using boardmans lvl 75 one

[sharp quartz]

just be warned about the build planner filter - they can be very specific, so you may need to loosen them up a little to prevent missing out on something that may still be useful.

[brazen hearth]

any1 can helpo me why i have WAYPIONT LOCKED? i have game crash on neropolis now i can t back todo QUEST....i waste 2 hour to fix it

[balmy pulsar]

why is it when your farming for an item you never find it lol

[delicate dust]

If the game is consistently crashing when trying to enter a specific zone, it's a fairly good indicator of a file issue. Try re-verifying the game through steam. The particular waypoint you're highlighting here is not immediately as you enter the zone, you have to progress a short ways into the zone.

What it looks like happened here, is you beat the previous boss, leading to this zone, however didn't pick up the waypoint for one reason or another. So you would need to go back through the previous waypoint, kill the boss again to progress to this area, then keep going to get the waypoint.

[distant hill]

do people still have trouble linking their account to steam? im searching online and theres a lot of old posts with no solutions. can you just not link rn?

[balmy pulsar]

i havnt been able to link my steam account to the forum one since i got the game well over a year ago lol

[distant hill]

yeah same haha i just reformatted and decided to give it a try

[brittle atlas]

My experience was basically just log in with the forum account in game on the first launch or whatever

And it linked fine

[rapid oak]

So... Is there any reason to start playing now, rather than waiting for online-mode, except for learning a few things about the game?

[warm yew]

Offline characters are going to continue existing post-multiplayer; if you are interested in the solo experience, you could create a character now.

[rapid oak]

Yeah. But i want the online market for my character as well, which means i have to restart if i start playing today.

[balmy current]

We don't know when trading is going to come, other than that it has to come with or after 0.9.0

[rapid oak]

Yep.

[acoustic thicket]

that means it's at the earliest probably next year.

[narrow egret]

Looking for build ideas for my Masochist Hardcore Acolyte. I am streaming if anyone wants to come help me out. InsioJ on Twitch

[native sail]

After 0.9.0, EHG already said a few times that 0.9 won't have trading

[neon geyser]

Mike reverted what he said on stream. You can read about it here (TLDR: not a definitive no to trading in 0.9.0 but nothing concrete either)

https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/vnm28b/the_lack_of_party_trade_in_090_is_a_huge_mistake/ie8ulvb?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3

[native sail]

Ah, gotcha. I hadn't heard anything on that and was going purely off what was said in here before, thanks for letting me know

[cloud lichen]

multiplayer without trade will not really be multiplayer

[steep robin]

Idk how much we really need trading though

Being able to play with people sounds fun, but with current drop rates I feel like trading would need to be limited in some way

[brittle atlas]

It’s more that people wanting share items amongst friends

It can be limited so long as you can trade the unique dagger that just dropped for your sentinel to your rogue buddy you’re playing with

[copper fable]

its hard because some people say thats all they want, but once the flood gates of some trading are open there will be push for more. And it remains to be seen how the game will shake up and if we are gonna go full market simulator or if the devs will leave drops as they are and be able to stick to restricted trading

[trim heath]

Yea, sorry about the confusion on that one. I was trying to say we won't have open free trade like how D2 or PoE does it.

[stone void]

returned to the game after a long absence, are dungeons late or early endgame?

[waxen sundial]

both, 4 tiers, can only enter if you get a key drop, you could get a key as early as first mono and run it, and theres up to T4 lvl 100 dungeons

[stone void]

lmao got one shotted by full room aoe julia at the end of sanctum, 10/10

[waxen sundial]

you gotta timewarp

[stone void]

duh, of coursw!

[waxen sundial]

if it makes you feel better ive done it like 3 times and still havent been able to do it

[stone void]

oh no

imma skip dungeons for now then, keys seem rare

[waxen sundial]

kinda

[acoustic thicket]

they are rare enough at the start, but you'll soon fill up a tab while you do other things like grinding uniques

[native sail]

Yeah, Julra's AoE isn't really supposed to be tanked. You can with a super high defense build but you're supposed to warp.

[raven dove]

any ETA on this 0.9 patch release date?

[acoustic thicket]

would have been in the post that came out recently if we had one.

but community estimation is October-ish

[balmy current]

At the very least, not before September.

[woven fulcrum]

Question. Is it normal to do a mono node and not have ANYTHING new revealed.
Especially one of the first three nodes?

[pseudo cipher]

Not normal but I've had it happen

[floral badge]

Possibly dumb question, but... Does the increased cold damage taken apply if you aren't directly casting Elemental Nova? For example, if it's being cast by Teleport?

[fierce kraken]

I believe it would. It would need to read if you directly use for it to only work on direct use.

Worth testing. You could do it in the wengari area in the campaign

[floral badge]

I'm trying, but... It's hard to tell. lol

[still anvil]

anyone can use node woodland bear on were bear form to proc entangling root on maul ?

somehow i can only triger it a few times sometimes but most of the time i cant proc it

[safe harness]

it costs 80 rage

for some reason

[long night]

are there any good build makers?

[sonic cedar]

Ok. So I like izometric ARPG.
And I like to play them with friends, so it was really sad for me to figure out that there is no multiplayer yet.
I heard that they already started testing it.
When should I expect an addition of multiplayer feature? Approximately.

Also... On skill panel there are only 4 buttons for skills(Not counting mouse buttons and flasks).
That's super low and gives an impression of mobile gameplay.
Is it possible to make a build with 10 buttons to press? Like in Grim Dawn?

[dire mist]

no

max 5 skills on hotbar

[sonic cedar]

That's sad. But thanks for the answer.

[cloud lichen]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/

[long night]

I've seen it but alot of the builds are pretty bad it seems just interested if there are any names that suggests a quality build

[cloud lichen]

I thought you were looking for a tool to create your own build

[long night]

ah I see how that can be missleading

[sharp quartz]

LizardIRL, Boardman21, Perry the pig... and plenty more names of good builds - a lot of them are on a break from making builds right now because its been a while since there was new content to work from... but there are plenty that are great.... I seldom find a build that has a planner that is "pretty bad" it all depends on if its a beginner buid, levelling build or one min/max'd meta ones... If you are a little more specific, maybe we can filter out the "pretty bad" for you.

[long night]

I just find that most of the builds are very unoptimized

but thank you, will have a look

What would be the meta rn?

[sharp quartz]

They probably look unoptimised because min/maxed gear is not currently needed to enjoy a build because the majority of the power of builds currently resides in the skills - barring specific gear interactions obviously... So you can run builds without needing perfect gear... they might just not get as far if pushing corruption etc..

[long night]

Its the skill trees ive seen that are a bit pepega

[cloud lichen]

on the other hand, beware of builds that come from an editing of the save file and which are almost impossible to create by the farm

[long night]

but I havent looked that hard

[sharp quartz]

Metas... there are many very good builds (maybe 6 or 7 metas for seriously high level pushing of corruption etc) but it depends on class... Rogue Poison umbral blades, VK Devouring Orbs, Forgue Guard Manifest Armor, Necro Reapers/Abomination minion builds all come to mind...

[sharp quartz]

How so?

[long night]

Have had points that are clearly not worth over other ones

[sharp quartz]

Well, it depends on the interactions required with other skills and there are utility/secondary skills that dont really matter what nodes you take beyond a few core build required nodes - e.g. the first 15 points could be mandatory for a build but the last 5 you can do what you like to make up for other issues in your setup. There are also instances where (especially on outlining nodes at the edge of skills), that you are forced to get preceeding nodes that provide no benefit... the outlining nodes in these cases however are usually very powerful or build enabling - hence the fact that points have to be sacrificed to enable them... EDIT: there are also skill interactions that might seem not worth it - like getting bleed nodes with a fire dps build - only to realise that a specific item of gear does a conversion to make it all work together....

[stone void]

got my first rune of ascendance, what's the optimal piece to use it on?

[sharp quartz]

lol... you could go for a Bastion Shield... but lady luck is unlikely to be that kind to you.

[acoustic thicket]

Yeah, conversion mechanics in this game can seem very jank from the outside if not paying close attention to what is happening.

[woven fulcrum]

It seems you already know how to make builds.
So now you have the tool (www.lastepochtools.com) to make them and optimize them.

[long night]

trying out a low life build, is there any alternate to this? Its the no health regen or leech im after

[stone void]

does the timeline always contain that echo somewhere or is it random?

[balmy current]

They're randomly spawned, they're more likely to spawn them at higher corruption & (I think) further out from the centre.

[dim flare]

Hey guys, im thinking about buy Last Epoch but i wanted some info first. How is the endgame? Will be South america servers when multiplayer release? The game have a good replayability or its boring repetitive?

[waxen sundial]

Not sure if you ever got your answer but whenever a skill is cast that you have specialized your nodes will take effect.

[brittle atlas]

basically any other amulet

it's really not worth using in most cases

[long night]

Cant stay under low life threshold without it though, unless there is an alternative

[brittle atlas]

on what class?

[long night]

rogue

[brittle atlas]

oh

low life rogue is kind of a meme, but you'd have to use Exsanguinous/Last Steps of the Living like most low life builds

[long night]

yeah had a look at the meta and its not even close

[brittle atlas]

and you obviously just don't build any regen or leech

there's almost no upside to being low life on rogue, though

vs hp/endurance/etc

[long night]

figured 600 multi on 100% crit with a ton of dr would be good but realized its the skill points that matter

[brittle atlas]

yeah, rogue also gets 100% crit super easy even without being low life dude to crit vulnerability

you basically don't need to build any crit chance since crit vuln can carry you to really good and often times 100% crit entirely by itself

[long night]

I see, appreciate it

[strong idol]

Does it make sense to have a chance to apply frailty on hit above 100%?

[brave ibex]

It'll apply multiple stacks at once

[pastel garnet]

It caps at 3 stacks though

244 chance will apply 2 stacks with 44% chance to apply a third

[fierce kraken]

that is actually a pretty decent weapon to try something cool with, you can level up the *Flat * crit to t3 or t4 and try sealing it. You could potentially get a 3 prefix weapon that is really exciting and the 2 suffixes are useful (not necesarrily bis) the high frailty chance is good for slow hitting builds.

[balmy current]

That less bonus damage from crits saves ~3 suffixes though, or a monumental amount of grinding for the CSA blessing...

And 65% isn't too bad since it's not an all or nothing affix like CSA.

[zealous orchid]

Haven't falloweded the game in awhile so what would u say to this??

How is last Epoch in terms of content. Do they still do semi regular updates or is the game finished(Asking more so I dont have to spend my life savings in dlc then anything).

[brittle atlas]

the game isn't currently finished, there are regular updates

to my knowledge, all further content to the game will be free, rather than paid dlc

[mild valley]

Hi, is there any restriction to stream ?:)

[eager magnet]

Nope go nuts

[static glacier]

beating t4 yurla while playing on nintend donkeykong drums could be consiered nuts 😛

[steep robin]

DW tempest strike doesn't double the chance for procs right? so you'd basically only DW it if you were focusing on the melee scaling of it?

[brittle atlas]

yep

[stone void]

how rare is apathy's maw?

[eager gazelle]

Reminds me of that one guy that plays games with a drumset, literally gets his own category in speedruns: drum% lo

[native sail]

I forget who it was but someone solo'd Crota's End in Destiny on a Rock Band drumset

[brittle atlas]

relatively common, probably...20-25% drop rate on orobyss?

[native sail]

God damn my luck is terrible then

[copper fable]

yeah i have terrible luck with it

[stone void]

i got like 6 rings so far, that can't be right

[brittle atlas]

29 boots
15 belts
48 axe
204 rings
5 amulets

that's my loot so far

[native sail]

How many of your axes have LP and can I have one with it

[brittle atlas]

I have 3 lp axes, but the vast majority of those were pre-lp

[native sail]

Fair enough

[brittle atlas]

I also don't kill orobyss nearly as often as I used to

there's a lot more incentives to leave your timelines intact now

I'm only resetting via orobyss now during initial push up to 300 and then whenever I fully exhaust a timeline of memory/chaos nodes

[native sail]

I haven't played in a while but I would kill when I saw one for 60+ corruption and each time would think "okay this one is my axe for SURE"

Never got an LP axe

[stone void]

i don't care about LP right now, just want an axe at all

[native sail]

Completely fair, I'm just whining cuz I wanted to make a legendary one for my MA

[acoustic thicket]

guys im kinda new to end game

and im trying to target farm for the squirrel helmet

the black sun timeline is level 66 though and the helmet is 70

[native sail]

Head on over to empowered Black Sun

[acoustic thicket]

do I have to empower before I can do that?

ffs

[native sail]

I don't think so but it will make it far easier

[acoustic thicket]

so level 70 uniques can drop from a level 66 black sun?

[native sail]

If I remember correctly drops are character level not area level but empowered timelines just have far more common unique nodes and better drop chances

[acoustic thicket]

wtf

[brittle atlas]

drops are zone level

a level 70 unique won't drop in a 66 area

[acoustic thicket]

y thats what I thought

[native sail]

I stand corrected, I'm not an expert

So yeah, empowered it is then

[acoustic thicket]

so pre-empowered I just have to get lucky with unique nodes in 70+ areas right

[brittle atlas]

yep

or use rune of ascendance

but the squirrel helm is pretty rare

so

[acoustic thicket]

does the rune have any rules to follow

[brittle atlas]

probably best to just push into empowered and farm there

[native sail]

As it should be, it's pretty absurd

[brittle atlas]

the runes just respect base item type

ie a helm becomes a unique helm

[acoustic thicket]

so I could use it on a helmet I got at level 1

and possibly get it

?

[brittle atlas]

yeah

[native sail]

Sure, but odds are not great

[acoustic thicket]

thank you

[brittle atlas]

they don't respect zone or character level

[acoustic thicket]

Gambling is based on character level though correct?

because I did my first dungeon that was lvl 45 and got an areks bones

[brittle atlas]

yes, but it's capped to level 40 for the normal gambler

idk about the soul gambler

[acoustic thicket]

y i got an areks bones at level 59 and its a 63 unique

the dungeon was 45

[waxen sundial]

such as?

[brittle atlas]

if you're farming for uniques with lp, it's much easier to farm them in a timeline that you reset with memory/chaos nodes to stack up unique nodes

[waxen sundial]

what are memory/ chaos nodes

[brittle atlas]

they're two types of nodes within monoliths. chaos nodes reroll all uncompleted nodes to a new reward type

memory nodes uncomplete all completed nodes

so you can get their rewards again

[waxen sundial]

never found those before, is there different rewards deeper in timelines

[brittle atlas]

yeah, they generally spawn near the edges

and only a few per timeline

[slate kelp]

Hey guys. Could I just use an endgame build for leveling or is the leveling process in this game kinda complex?

So far Im playing the Druid in Werebear form but I dont like it. Im using a leveling guide.

[brittle atlas]

it depends heavily on the build

some things will require specific uniques or specific skill interactions to function, some will be fine to level with as soon as you get them

[slate kelp]

Makes sense. For the loot filters on lastepochtools, how accurate would you say the loot filter is?

[native sail]

As accurate as you make it

[slate kelp]

Well I mean when it gives you a loot filter based on the items slotted

It sounds great to me

Wish something like Grim Dawn had this

[native sail]

Depends on what you click when you generate it, it's usually been pretty okay for me but I've tailored it a little bit when I use it just cuz it can be a bit too exact

[stone void]

the autogenerated one from last epoch tools? i'm having some issues with unique-heavy builds

[slate kelp]

Yeah that one. Im more of a "run with it and figure it out later" type of player

[native sail]

Doesn't it try to fill unique slots if you don't tick the box?

[slate kelp]

Gonna try out this Golem Necro build

[stone granite]

It's much better to make your own and it's really easy to do

[slender estuary]

As a new player who is doing monoliths (lvl 62) Im using a Hammerdin, when should I transition into a different build? SSeems hammerdins are mainly used for leveling

[minor kindle]

Not sure what your hammerdin means, does it mean Hammer Throw proc Smite? That's a powerful build that can endgame and not just level up

[slender estuary]

oh well I guess thats what im going for

I edidnt know it could proc smite 🤔

[acoustic thicket]

yeah, base hammers just get converted to smite proc hammer builds when you get the stuff for them going.

[stone granite]

There is no transition. You can play till endgame with those skills.

[young knot]

How do you get 2 exalted stats on an item?

[brittle atlas]

be exceptionally lucky

[young knot]

is it a crafting process or just a drop?

[acoustic thicket]

just drop

[young knot]

@acoustic thicket When using the sanctum to add stats to a legendary with LP, can you remove all the stats except the ones you want so it guarantees it moves over?

[acoustic thicket]

nope. gotta just get lucky. gotta have at least 4 stats

it's part of why higher LP items are so insane.

[young knot]

@acoustic thicket Is there anyway to increase the LP on items that drop? Like make it more likely?

[acoustic thicket]

higher corruption in empowered monoliths

mainly by virtue of dropping more often

[young knot]

@acoustic thicket Does the penetration stat get calculated in the tooltip damage?

[acoustic thicket]

don't rely on tooltip damage. it's honestly yikes.

[young knot]

@acoustic thicket Is there a way to better see if something is a damage increase?

[acoustic thicket]

if you've been to the end of time place that has the training dummy you can slap that real quick

[young knot]

Good idea, thanks

Although my dps is proced based and super random 😦

[static glacier]

you can go hammerthrow / smite procc but you absolutly dont HAVE to do it to get an full viable build. Hammerthrow does a ton of damage on its own in the right build

[slender estuary]

@static glacier gotcha. And basically the “transition” is just acquiring those idols you need and getting some +elemental damage

[static glacier]

@slender estuary Well switching from a e.g. pure physical hammer throw 0 mana build to an spelldamage based smite build is a lot more than just the idols imho

[eager magnet]

Thank you. So tired of hearing you have to use smite.

[stone void]

got a first non-ring drop from shade of orobyss! It's not the axe T_T

[sharp quartz]

hint, try and farm Orobyss nodes that have high +corruption figures... over 12 worked for me - the ones way out at the edges of a monolith tree... but just wait till you want the axe with LP.... the most soul destroying grind to get back to orobyss nodes and then not gettting axes each time... but hey... i did eventually get a 3LP one.. 🤪

[static glacier]

Lebuilds has a very nice to play pure hammer throw build up 🙂

the only build that makes sigils painfree 😛

[stone void]

i would really enjoy the axe and the belt, i'm assuming it will take a while

[static glacier]

if you could melt n forge those rings in axes ... 20 for 1 ... 😉

[warm latch]

Has anybody ever found a 4 x tier 7 drop? I love the idea of chase items that may never actually drop

[woven fulcrum]

This has been speculated before.
Somewhere on here the devs said the astronomical probabilities for this to happen are vast.
Can't remember what the actual comparison was but it was up cosmic in size. lol

[warm latch]

https://c.tenor.com/VKU7xwwZJ_EAAAAM/dumb-and-dumber-lloyd.gif

[mystic acorn]

I have around 1k hours atm and the best I've found was a t6 + t7

[neat depot]

hey guys im little bit lost. Playing necro and using rip blood, found a weapon with melee necrotic damage - is it ok or should i look for other stats on weapon?

[urban horizon]

Melee necrotic damage won't affect rip blood at all. You'd want adaptive damage so scepter, wand, staff base type so as long as its one of those base types then its fine

[neat depot]

thank you!

can u recommend what kind of stats should i look for? in my build i see guy is using one handed axe with mellee damage 😄

[urban horizon]

I am guessing the person is using Beast king or Eulogy of blood? If you are using necrotic rip blood then spell dmg / cast speed if you use it for ward generation

[upbeat birch]

Guys is there a way to reroll base modifiers? Like movement speed - cold res on boots

Not talking about affix / suffx

[delicate dust]

Rune of Shaping will reroll Implicit properties. Rune of Refinement rerolls affixes within their ranges.

[upbeat birch]

Yeah Found out they are quite rare, i got none hehe

Thanks

[neat depot]

so something like skeleptar sceptre can drop from monolith?

Skeletal*

[balmy current]

It requires a minimum area level of 67, so yes but not in the first few monos.

[neat depot]

got it

[slate kelp]

Does anyone know what this means?

What is a subtype?

[urban horizon]

Regular shows all base types with the affixes and strict only shows bases that you chose in the planner

So if you chose Crusader gloves for example then you won't see leather gloves (unless unique)

[slate kelp]

The "add resist affixes" option would be what then?

[native sail]

It just fills in empty suffixes on the gear with resists on the filter

[slate kelp]

Really wish other ARPGs had this

[native sail]

Honestly, I don't like it

[copper fable]

it does not exactly fill the suffixes, it simply adds resistances to the potential suffix options I believe

So if you say wanted a rings with CSA/Endurance you see rings with CSA/Res show up

So it makes it so you see tons of extra stuff that isnt even close to what you want

with the res box ticked you will see an item drop with two t5 res suffix and it will show up as orange cause its 2 mods with sum greater then 8, which is normally a really good drop, but really its just kinda random ass drop.

I basically never tick that box

[fierce kraken]

I remember mike responding to this and said the best he ever got with dev tools was 1xT7 & 2xt6

[thorn field]

this game worth getting in its current state?

or should I wait for full release

[balmy current]

Yes.

[fierce kraken]

Disclaimer we are hardcore LE fans so our answer is absolutely yes. If you have particular questions about the game we are happy to answer.

[warm latch]

so i just finished a mono and got the portal to receive your reward message and then died after and when i respawned there was no reward is that how its intended to work?

[copper fable]

yes, pushing past the objective is risk vs reward

you can get more bonus stability, but you risk dying and losing reward

[warm latch]

ah i see thank you 🙂

[shut moat]

Hey, question about the gameplay. Coming from d3, I really enjoyed the playstyle of rat runs, basically running around at 5k miles/hr and constantly deleting the entire screen. From what ive seen, the multiplayer aspect of last epoch is still in testing, but do the gameplay mechanics allow for such super fast paced styles, or do the runs generally have a slower pace?

Especially for efficient end game farming, and not just running through low difficulty for the sake of it

[fierce kraken]

generally slower, there are some builds like that but they are mostly outliers.

speed is something the devs are trying to control so that the multiplayer experience doesn't suffer from one person running ahead of everyone else.

[shut moat]

kk thanks, prob still gonna give it a go since the reviews seem very positive from what I have seen. Would be cool to see in the future though imo, getting a good small group together for these super fast runs is super satisfying

[fierce kraken]

cool, its a great game and you can go fast but not light speed. It takes about 2 -3 secs to move 1 screen where something like poe is 2-3 screens per second

this is a good example of end game speed for most builds https://youtu.be/U55bdrSxuew?t=92

[shut moat]

kk, definitely seems on the slower side, but not too bad. I assume once multiplayer comes out it might get a bit faster too as glass cannon dps builds could get more viable.

[pseudo cipher]

I'd say that one is quite a bit faster than most builds. It was designed to have high movement speed while maintaining very good clear. Most builds won't keep up with that. If you're looking for consistently fast paced gameplay, rogue is probably your best bet. Lots of fast builds for that class.

[shut moat]

ok cool, thanks

[slender estuary]

Transitioning into a hammer throw smite build and need to farm specific adroned idols, would farming the first monolith with the increased drop chance for adorned idols be the best method?

[brittle atlas]

just farm whatever the highest area level you can is and look for idol echoes

can also do the dungeons and look for idol modifiers

[fierce kraken]

if you're desparate, but doing what Arborus said should get you a couple to get started

[minor kindle]

I think it's more important to farm a Devotion amulet as early as possible, it will give you a qualitative change in damage, even without the right 2x2 idol you can also use the self casting build first (also very powerful)

[hexed mural]

question

if I take ice peaks in the upheaval tree, does bleed duration or bleed effect from item and passive tree now apply to frostbite?

I'm pretty sure it does, just validating before investing hours in my build 😄

[fierce kraken]

no

it does not work how you think it does

All it does is change %chance to bleed to % chance frostbite

[hexed mural]

I was thinking effect related to bleed now depends on frostbite would do that

ty @fierce kraken

[minor kindle]

No mention = no effect, this is absolute, if there are exceptions that must be where there is a mistake

[fierce kraken]

this line is refering to "upheaval deals 15% more dmg to bleeding enemies" into "upheaval deals 15% more dmg to frostbite enemies" (This is the general way they talk about conversions across all skills)

[hexed mural]

thank you so much!

[frigid bobcat]

Hi all, This might be the wrong place to ask so I'll apologise now just in case but I've been playing Grim Dawn quite a bit which I'm enjoying (I'm new to the ARPG genre) and I'm looking for another ARPG to play especially with the Steam sale on. I've read the reviews on Steam for The Last Epoch which are promising, can anyone vouch for the game? Thanks 😁

[sharp quartz]

Most of us participating on this discord would vouch for LE right now without hesitation.. 🤪 .... only caveat I would mention is that if you like Multiplayer, then the next patch is what you are waiting for.... if you like single player, then there isnt any reason not to buy and play right now...

[frigid bobcat]

Yeah I have seen that multiplayer is due soon, I'm just loving the ARPG genre at the moment, I know there will be bias in the Discord but that's to be expected 🤣 I would play multiplayer but I've only played single player so I've answered my own question. Thanks 😆
Edit: I love the dungeon crawling, character creation, it's just a breath of fresh air with ARPG's

[sharp quartz]

Most of LE is a breath of fresh air... even for ARPG veterans... imho, the devs have slotted it in between being too complicated (like PoE) and too simple (like Torchlight 2)... only time will tell how it matures into itself...

[frigid bobcat]

Thanks for your input it's very much appreciated 😁

[stone granite]

I 100% support LE but do not ever recommend early access games.

[scenic hound]

Why can't I find any items that have +X mana per second?

[sharp quartz]

Lol... LE is my only Early access game right now... its the only one I havent been burnt on and even then its likely to be the last ea game I play....

[scenic hound]

How do I get better mana regeneration on my melee character? I'm usually fine for small encounters, but as soon as I end up in a prolonged engagement I have to walk away and wait a bit for all my mana to come back.

[sharp quartz]

There arent any.. mana management is a hot topic in this game... I would suggest reading up on the forum for the bigger picture and discussions about it...

[scenic hound]

I tried to search for mana regen and the only recent topic was some post from over a year ago where the devs simply said they'd look into mana regeneration scaling with max mana. That's it.

[sharp quartz]

You usually have to allocate a mana earning skill... which is sometimes hard in a class that doesnt traditionally use mana..... there are various mana regen options but they are limited in gear - most existing in class appropriate passives & skill trees...

What class are you specifically trying to build in?

[scenic hound]

How does % mana regeneration work though? it seems like 10% of 8 mana regen is a joke.

[sharp quartz]

It can be, but the primary reason for this is that there are no other ways of preventing spamming high dps nukes... i.e. you have to have the mana limitation in place for balance reasons...

[scenic hound]

I am a Beastmaster with 2 wolves, frenzy totem, upheaval, fury leap, and warcry.

There are skills with 0 mana cost, but how can I work them onto my bar when I already have a main attack and I need all of the other skills too?

If only I could add the 0 mana cost "basic attacks" to my left click when holding shift. Then I could use it when needed, but not have it take up space otherwise.

[sharp quartz]

Thats part of the trick of building in LE - the devs have included the limitation of 5 skills on purpose... and they have confirmed this numerous times... If you post on the forums/primalist sections here on discord with your build, then the primalist specialists will help suggest a solution for you... (dammits build planner - https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ will help you show what you are trying to do)...

[scenic hound]

I guess mana management is the price I pay for having more damage on my attack, because I could just swap out upheaval for a 0 mana cost skill.

[sharp quartz]

Depending on your build concept, you may have to do things like that yes....

[scenic hound]

I was just curious why there's +X health regeneration per second and a +% health regeneration, but mana only has the %.

The developers do know that, while mana may become insignificant with the +X mana regen per second, this is still a choice to be made on the equipment? It's not like it's completely free; something has to be sacrificed for it. Sure, a little bit of that will negate all mana troubles for a melee character, but I can only assume that mages will have to significantly gear for mana regen, nerfing their damage and survivability, just to "spam forever".

I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only person confused by mana management.

[sharp quartz]

imho, its just because of the balance issue... as with most things in LE, flat base values and flat increases have a HUGE affect on the stats because its fairly easy to get "increased" values... too high flat base values can cause skills etc to become OP almost immediately just because of the math..... Mages have the same difficulty with mana but they do have sources of reduced mana spend (e.g. wands with -3 mana etc) and other ways of getting mana back... Lots of mage builds are forced to use mana earning skills as part of the build - these are specifically designed for this purpose and without them, mages would be effectively useless because of the high dps & high mana cost of the mage nuke skills....

[acoustic thicket]

even +5 flat mana regen would actually be very very strong with how some of the mechanics work

because that's multiplicative with all the % increases, and for example: in the mage skill focus, it gives % increase based off missing mana, going from 5 base to 10 base, on 300 mana would make that go from 20, to 40 mana per second, and that's not including any of the other parts of that tree, that's a single node.

[scenic hound]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/base-mana-regen-suggestion/15691/9
So the results of this, did they ever change is to that base mana regen scales with max mana?

[acoustic thicket]

pretty sure it's still the base 5 per sec

@scenic hound honestly, druids in primalist have it easy for mana problems, as do void knights. because they have mechanics that basically bypass mana entirely

[scenic hound]

Yes, the experience isn't terrible so far. I just fall flat on my face the moment I encounter anything that doesn't die in 5 seconds.

[native sail]

Pally also doesn't have much problem with mana it seems

[scenic hound]

It's fine though, the boss fights I'm having to disengage and wait for mana are ones where I should be disengaging to dodge mechanics anyways.

[sharp quartz]

Dont think so... I think its because its too easy to get a huge pool of mana which, if it scaled regen would mean that mages would have no effective limit.... it would be less of a problem for other classes, but still an issue..

[acoustic thicket]

Druids have spriggan form vines granting rage even if you aren't in spriggan form (so you'll see werebear using this to never have have to run out of werebear or mana in general)

Volatile Reversal on Sentinal as a whole honeslty just resets your Mana after you spend it lol

[native sail]

I got back onto my shield rush build for a bit yesterday, forgot it literally doesn't even have to think about mana

[acoustic thicket]

yeah sentinel builds in general don't really think about mana all that much.

either you reduce their costs to basically 0, or you bypass it with volatile reversal.

[scenic hound]

I don't mind the mage's "disengage and channel this spell to regen mana" design.

I think forcing the player into some sort of downtime, or making them vulnerable to regain their resources, is a valid balance.

[scenic hound]

Thanks to everyone who responded. I appreciate the insight. 🙂

[inner creek]

Anyone here willing to trade high level/good geared save files for d2jsp/poe orbs or something like that?? Or just share for pure testing purposes?

[sharp quartz]

seriously?

[gentle rapids]

I have completed all quests and can't find anymore

anyone know where to go?

[native sail]

Head to the End of Time and start doing monoliths

[gentle rapids]

I'm only lvl 34

dw found it

hmm that seems like a bug

[pastel garnet]

in the End of TIme

[gentle rapids]

Nah

[pastel garnet]

you'll find a bunch of quest markers

[gentle rapids]

Ended up going to "The Shining Cove" and the quest to pickup was there

[native sail]

If you're 34 and haven't found anything it sounds like you missed an area somehow

[gentle rapids]

strange that it just disappeared

[native sail]

That checks out

[pastel garnet]

did you get your mastery unlocked?

[gentle rapids]

yep

[pastel garnet]

right next to that guy is the other guy that opens the next zone

Elder Sometingsomething

[gentle rapids]

hmm I might have missed it

[native sail]

You're supposed to just continue moving the first time you get to the Cove after you jump off the ship

@pastel garnet they're past that

Admiral's Dreadnought is complete so they already have gone through the initial End of Time section

[pastel garnet]

ah

than yes

[native sail]

Just a situation where they didn't pick up the following quest after jumping off the ship

[gentle rapids]

Yeah I think that was it

[native sail]

Happens sometimes, I've had it happen on a crash a couple times

[chrome horizon]

Hey there, is the game worth purchasing? And how is the multiplayer coming along? I saw this banner which are aspects I really like about such games.

[gentle rapids]

Yeah well I did crash at that time too

I played all day yesterday and had no crashes but today I have crashed about 5 times

[chrome horizon]

Dfq is that url it copies

[native sail]

Your clipboard is not your friend apparently

[native sail]

Multiplayer beta is coming with the next update later this year (some time after September), we don't have details on trade quite yet as EHG is keeping fairly quiet about how they are handling it, and cycles are starting with 1.0 so they aren't here yet, but the game has been progressing at a good rate so I don't expect a huge wait relatively speaking

[chrome horizon]

I remember seeing this game in like 2018/2019 and it really looked like "EARLY STAGES" if you know what I mean.. not polished or even remote to complete.
But it looks way better now, so I am curious how they listened to the community and how development went/how it is right now.

[gentle rapids]

What sort of trade system would you guys like? PoE style with third party website to trade or would you like more of an auction house style?

[native sail]

They have explicitly mentioned that trade will NOT be open trade like Diablo 2 or PoE so there's that

[chrome horizon]

Then probably an auction based system like BDO I'd imagine...

[gentle rapids]

oh nice, so they're more leaning on the AH side?

That would be pretty cool

[native sail]

We don't know

Prior design was going to be a bazaar of sorts but that has since been scrapped

[gentle rapids]

I'd prefer an auction house styled trade system

[chrome horizon]

What is your stake on this @native sail ? And thanks for the info on mp 🙂

[acoustic thicket]

AH honestly also seems unlikely

[gentle rapids]

the amount of coding involved would be hard

[chrome horizon]

Not at all

[acoustic thicket]

the design goal of trade in this game doesn't line up with an AH. they don't want your primary thought to be: can i get it through trade.

When trade is too easy/too free relative to playing the game itself, then trade is not healthy for the longevity of the game. and that's why they thought about the bazaar before hand. but decided to scrap that specific iteration, we don't know what they've come to since then on how to handle that.

[chrome horizon]

Yeah understandable ofcourse, but even with an AH there are systems and methods that could prohibit such behaviour to actively occur.

[gentle rapids]

will be interesting to see, I agree with trading not being healthy for the game

[native sail]

The game is still incomplete that much is for sure, but that being said the current endgame system is solid and the dungeons are enjoyable, unique and interesting. There's a good variety in building and crafting is actually good and integral to the game which is something that's not often seen in this kind of game. World building in the story is pretty good and the level/area design is phenomenal. It usually isn't a huge wait on updates, this is the longest one I have seen in over a year, and they're fantastic at communicating the majority of information and usually only keep a few things fully under wraps.

[acoustic thicket]

Unlike PoE the game is designed with you being able to acquire everything yourself. which is also a factor.

[chrome horizon]

Ah yeah that'd definitely make it a bit different

But I'd also add the time it takes to get everything.

[native sail]

MOST things are acquirable in reasonable time frames

There's some chase items, but they are outliers

[chrome horizon]

As if they want to cater to the "generic dad gamer" for example.. then a lot of those would like such a trade system simply to be able to participate in "cycles"/"seasons".

[gentle rapids]

I like how the game isn't as simple as Diablo 3 and but not as complex as PoE. It sits nicely in the middle for me

[chrome horizon]

PoE is scary but not even that complex once u know it.

But it all sounds quite good

f it, imma buy it

[acoustic thicket]

You can reasonably acquire copies of most items in within a reasonable time frame even as a dad gamer

because you can reliably target farm stuff unlike in poe

[native sail]

No squirrel helm or funny OP shield for me though

[acoustic thicket]

I mean, you been sitting in the monos for those slots?

[native sail]

I did for about 60 hours

I have abysmal luck in most games when it comes to things I actually want

[acoustic thicket]

oof. tbf, the shield is actually pretty rare

[native sail]

I am on the high end of the unlucky group

[acoustic thicket]

Scurry helm is just as rare as stuff like the dragonsong bow

[native sail]

Which I have three of

[acoustic thicket]

yeah, so actually just unlucky

happens

[native sail]

For sure

So instead of farming for giga items I have moved on to making mildly cursed builds

[acoustic thicket]

Honestly, if it makes you feel better. my pain is trying to get my frostbite shackles for shatter strike shenanigans and that's actual pain, cuz it's not just nodes in a specific timeline, it's from the boss. and it's only the boss drop i care about.

so i get the joy of suffering regrinding the boss up.

[native sail]

I feel that pain with Wings of Argentus as well to an extent, haven't tried for it as hard but luck is less than ideal still

[chrome horizon]

Any beginner tips btw? And I got told you need to make a new char if u make 1 mistake in your talent tree? How doe that work

Installing rn.

[native sail]

You absolutely do not need to remake

The only thing that is permanent is your mastery (subclass basically)

Resetting skill trees costs purely time, resetting passive trees costs gold only

[vocal thistle]

Hey community, I just wanted to say how I really like the community in LE. A lot of the members are really nice and welcoming, it's a great change from many other games. Some folks like @sharp quartz @balmy current @native sail above and others are real gems. I hope this spirit remains.

[native sail]

The only people I dislike are people who spam general with gifs or repeat the same question on repeat without ever reading #news. That makes me legitimately angry

[acoustic thicket]

mood loool

[native sail]

Please ignore my brain smashing together two sentences in the middle there

[static glacier]

Well the discord is still quite good ... the normal ingame chat is as bad as in any other online game now ... the last big "poe sucks wave" after the harvest changes had no positive effect on ingame chat here 😉

[scenic hound]

I got a key for 2 different dungeons. Will I be able to engage with them and complete them without going off to read a guide on how they work? I know one of them requires me to put a unique in a vault at the end. Is it even worth me using this key if I don't have any unique to bake in the oven?

[static glacier]

the boss will make sure you can "do" something in the vault

may not be a good item but the game makes sure you get a matching drop afaik 😉

[scenic hound]

Thanks. 🙂 I just hit monoliths and I wasn't sure if it's OK to break off from monoliths to do something else, or if I should just really grind out some mono first.

[native sail]

Guide not needed, mechanics are fairly intuitive just make sure to read any new ability that shows up when you enter. Temporal Sanctum always drops a Julra unique with at least 1LP which is nice

[chrome horizon]

And every decision there is PERMA/PERMANENT.. ? That is odd

Any guides or smt for such?

[native sail]

No no, just which one you pick

[sharp quartz]

You will not be disappointed... its very good... even as a beta...

[chrome horizon]

Ahhh okay 🙂

[native sail]

So if you choose Marksman you can't choose Bladedancer for example, but you can still put in points in the first half of the Bladedancer tree

[chrome horizon]

Looking forward to that then 😉

[chrome horizon]

Aaaaah

[static glacier]

cant go wrong with mastery pick ... you need one of any mastery anyway 😉

and at least half a dozend paladins cause you can make so many different paladin builds obviously one will never be enough 😛

[native sail]

Like this, on my current character leveling I am a Marksman so I have full access to the Marksman tree, but on Bladedancer tree I can only go up to the chain

sorry for the image wall

[sharp quartz]

Nope... the only permanent choice is your Mastery - i.e. if you chose Sentinel base class, you will be asked to chose between Void Knight, Forge Guard and Paladin as a mastery... with no do overs once chosen.... everything else you can reskill, respec passives etc... the main reason for new chars is simply to try out different classes... not because you made a mistake on a skill or passive..

[chrome horizon]

Ah cool, thanks for the info

[chrome horizon]

Wym with up the chain?

[native sail]

That chain in the middle there stops me from putting in points on the right hand half because I am not a Bladedancer

[static glacier]

half the tree is "for everyone" half the tree is "exclusive"

[native sail]

Makes more sense when you actually put points into things

[sharp quartz]

If you want to find out about trading possibilities, then the best place to look is the posts on the Forum... the devs are not willing to divulge what they have decided on yet but it will give you a LOT of background as to the pros and cons of various trade options that have already been discussed and in some cases even the devs philosophy on the topic... A few things seem chiseled in stone tho - no real world currency linked in-game trade transactions and cosmetic mtx with an in-game shop using real money as a means to support the devs & improve your drip.

[chrome horizon]

Ah like that, thanks for the info y'all 🙂

[chrome horizon]

Yeah definitely understandable, but no ETA for such a system then? First multiplayer in general?

[native sail]

My turn to ask a question, anyone know if there is a limit to how many blades this node can recall

[native sail]

My personal guess on MP beta is around Novemberish

[sharp quartz]

Yip... no info on the trade...

[chrome horizon]

Saddd :c but time enough for me to explore the game first 😄

[chrome horizon]

Ah that is soon

[sharp quartz]

Lol... apparently not soon enough for some people... heh heh

[chrome horizon]

[native sail]

People who don't read walking in to ask "multiplayer when" 80 times a week

[chrome horizon]

I just joined, I have a newbie pass

😛

[native sail]

Oh for sure

Oh god I opened my stash and now I have build inspiration based around set items

[chrome horizon]

Time to avoid sleeping

[native sail]

I just stayed up all night two nights ago to play RoR2 with someone for 7 hours

[sharp quartz]

I get those urges too often... and then the Sets just let me down when I cannot make them work - especially when changing one item to an exalt or unique makes everything better.... although... apparently the new lich one might be worth something... who knows....

[native sail]

I don't doubt that exalteds would be better but that's far less interesting in my head

[sharp quartz]

I suffer from "compareitis"... sets are pretty good for most of the content... but I want to push higher and thats when the wheels come off...

[native sail]

I just like making weird/underused things, which is how I ended up with a Voltaxic Burst character in PoE

[sharp quartz]

Same... I will find a unique in the proverbial bottom of my stash and then spend hours trying to use it because it sounds really cool.... tends to be a downer when I cant tho... and even worse when I cannot find any builds using it....

[acoustic thicket]

NGL, i'm just a fan of just trying new experiences. which is why i don't get hung up on either side of this argument lol

it's why i like things like the judicator spear or the bident or any other actually completely build modifying item like that

[native sail]

Hm. Ballistae seems to have some trouble targeting certain enemy types, particularly the Fumes

[native sail]

Bident is such a good item

[acoustic thicket]

i don't care about making all uniques work. just ones that actually have build modifying things like those.

judicator is also pretty good

holy trail jav got decent damage

[sharp quartz]

Have you tested Ballistae in a different location? There are some issues with its targetting based on map especially the ones that have lots of different "heights".

Also sometimes used to happen with hammer throw for me... havent tested that one specifically in a long time tho.. so I am not sure if it was "fixed"

[native sail]

Yeah it just sometimes whiffs past the orby enemies for no apparent reason

[acoustic thicket]

Sometime down the road i need to get my gear together for holy trail jav. cuz it's got some damage

[neat depot]

Should i first corrupt a monolith or finish quests and receive a blessing?

[sharp quartz]

I seem to remember somehting about problems targetting the floating mobs with ranged attacks... orbs especially... honestly cannot recall if it was dealt with...

[sharp quartz]

If you are still in normal monoliths, then finish it first for the belssing.. Corruption is only really worth it on empowered monoliths.

[native sail]

Thanks, I was having trouble phrasing that

[neat depot]

Thanks this community is a blessing😍

[native sail]

I wish I had the money to upgrade supporter packs, I want the shirt

[sharp quartz]

Where I live there is almost zero chance of any package reaching me normally unless you use the best courier options available (i.e. most expensive)... and with all the crap going on in the world it just makes it worse... I'm holding off on all merch till EHG logistics are a well oiled machine... cause I will most likely have to pay 3X or 4X the value just to ship the stuff to me and dont want hassles...

[native sail]

Makes sense. Nothin extra needed to ship to me cuz I live in a bland yet connected area in the states.

[sharp quartz]

"bland yet connected" heh heh.

[native sail]

Bland is very apt here. This state is incredibly boring in general

[lilac oracle]

what have i done wrong here

i swear this is how i did my filters before, put hide all as lowest rule, put wanted affixes above it

[sharp quartz]

Not sure what you are trying to do but you are only hiding idols in the last rule...

[lilac oracle]

oh thats the mistake i made

[deft moth]

Does echo maps got like pretty much same number of "special" objectives overall? Like reseting completed rewards or changing not completed rewards? Or i can do like nearly/full map and have 0 rerolls

[sharp quartz]

Afaik its entirely RNG... there are obviously nodes that MUST appear - like Orobyss nodes at the ends of the paths.. but the rest should be random... I wouldnt be surprised if some nodes have more chance than others but its still rng...

[marsh sun]

Does "Fight in the Shadows" or "Onslaught" on the Shadow Cascade tree trigger if used passively by "Hidden Blade" on the Dancing Strikes tree?
I'm reticent to take them if they aren't going to be used, but if they can stabilize my mana usage that would be fantastic. I know I could just take them, but sometimes its hard to tell whether something is happening or not.

[sharp quartz]

It should because the node says YOU have a chance to use the skill and not something else - that usually means you get all benefits as if you used the skill manually yourself.... it would be a bit annoying to test with the 10% chance and making sure you have shadows but it should be possible...

[stone void]

any way to always display affix tiers instead of having to hold alt+ctrl?

[sharp quartz]

nope...

[clever bronze]

Когда планируется выход патча 0.9.0 ?

[cold plaza]

probably October/November 2022

!multiplayer

[ripe brook]

Multiplayer is still being worked on. Here's an update: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/official-last-epoch-multiplayer-faq/42036.

[clever bronze]

Thx

[pastel garnet]

I got a question on Upheaval Totems - do they scale with minion or player stats?

I got the impression that the totem just casts the skill as if you are doing it

[copper fable]

Totems scale with minion stats

including upheaval totem, it has a few problems as a skill imo, but it does scale with minion/totem stats not player stats.

[static glacier]

the big upside of the totem is that you get a LOT of flat base damage for a minion

[neat depot]

quick question for next character - void autobomber or void warpath ? 🙂 im kinda leaning to try spinning madness but idk. Cheers:)

[sharp quartz]

Autobomber is OP so you just run from start to end and things just die...echo warpath is running circles around enemies all the time and watching things die.... autobomb is easier imho for single targets... echo warpath takes practise to get the echos to spin in the right place...

[neat depot]

thanks a lot, always helpful!

[pastel garnet]

I was eyeing the Master of the Totem node in Upheaval

i assume it refers to Upheaval hitting other totems to give them the buff

i was curious if it worked from Upheaval totem but there is no visual indication that this is working either way

[copper fable]

there is, its just VERY hard to see, and only shows up on some totems. its this fault gold aura on the totem that has the buff

And upheaval totems can proc it, but its much more random since they will be shooting in random directions

[pastel garnet]

yeah i saw it

seems to be pretty crappy as totems last too short

[copper fable]

that buff is good, but only when you self cast the upheaval, for totems they fire too randomly and slowly for it to feel that good

[pastel garnet]

aren't Vale Spirits supposed to shoot on their own?

oh nvm they add projectiles to self-cast thorns

tooltip is gigabad

[prime badger]

will v0 90 multiplayer progress be wiped?

[static glacier]

Offline will stay offline
Online will be fresh start for everyone

[prime badger]

yes thank you but will it have wipes? it does say beta just asking 🙂

[static glacier]

And i guess 0.9 online progress is permanent but with a poe style league System later

[balmy current]

No

[prime badger]

right ok so like seasons? thank you Hybria and Llama8 😉

[static glacier]

Yes and a dump... er Permanent thing 😄

[balmy current]

Standard?

[prime badger]

ok i have to ask whats a dump? I can still play the toon right? just like a diablo 3 type of general population type thing?

[static glacier]

Dumpster league 👀

[balmy current]

Yeah, standard

[prime badger]

cool cool ty ma dudes

[balmy current]

And yes, you can continue to play your characters.

[prime badger]

awesome possum

[sharp quartz]

First time I have ever seen the @balmy current being mistaken for a possum....

[balmy current]

Not just any possum, an awesome possum.

[icy drift]

Do we know anything about how trading is gonna work in MP? Heard somewhere that it wasn't gonna be like Poe or D2 so was wondering if we know how it's going to be different

[native sail]

All we know is it won't be open trade like PoE or D2, that's all the information we have.

[magic turtle]

Where should I go to farm level 5 uniques?

[native sail]

Literally anywhere

[acoustic thicket]

Get to monos and then you can target farm the type of uniques you want.

[magic turtle]

Didn't realize Monos could give you low-level uniques

[native sail]

The level just dictates when it starts being available to roll basically

[magic turtle]

ahh

neat

thanks!

[native sail]

It is based on zone level

[magic turtle]

do mono uniques also have a higher chance to have LP?

[native sail]

Technically yes, higher corruption means more drops which means more that will drop with LP

[acoustic thicket]

As deias said. As well, in monos each mono has targeted nodes for you to chase for drops. Like the black sun has helmets as a target farm.

[native sail]

Black Sun is the helmet timeline

[acoustic thicket]

Cope harder bud. RNGesus has forsaken you.

[steep robin]

Do passives that reduce damage at low hp work the same? Like... Berserker I think is the name, for primalist?

I guess I coulda put the whole paragraph for clarification

[delicate dust]

Yes and tangentially no

To explain a bit better =p :
Berserker will kick in for any damage dealt to below 35% of life. So say you have 100 max hp. You are at 50/100hp, you take a hit for 50 damage, you would be left at 8 hp~ with 5/5 berserker as it will apply to the portion of the damage below your 35% health.

Berserker is a bit different than endurance though: "if you are below 35% life, you take less damage", so it also applies to damage taken to ward so long as your health behind that ward is below 35%, unlike endurance.

[steep robin]

Thanks!

Different topic, this node is, in theory, a single target increase, as the souls should be more clumped up, but the same amount should spawn in the area, correct? So it forces a more melee playstyle but if I combine it with spectral putrescence, there will be more souls in range, generally, than if I didn't take it? For bossing at least

Just making sure I understand the purpose, because I could see it also meaning I get less souls, to make up for the more damage multiplier on the node

[delicate dust]

I'm actually not 100% on this, would need to double check - but I believe only reveal rate should effect the number of spirits, not reveal range.

[neat depot]

this nod Marrow Drinker in Rip Blood tree ''targets minions instead''. Does that mean that im hurting my own minions or there is some kind of buff to them?:D cheers

[neat depot]

ah ok i have blood splatter so looks like im also granting buffs to minions

[balmy current]

Yes it damages your minions.

[mild hill]

!multiplayer

[ripe brook]

Multiplayer is still being worked on. Here's an update: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/official-last-epoch-multiplayer-faq/42036.

[mild hill]

are multiplayer ok now?

[sharp quartz]

Not sure what you mean.

[scenic hound]

How do I tell my brain to stop telling me the grass is greener on another class/build, and keep grinding at what I've already got, so that I can fully realize its potential? I'm somewhere between level 65-70 and I think the progression on gear has slowed down a lot. I'm kind of glad it did too, because I was running out of crafting mats. To the point where I now filter out everything except T6+ drops. That seems normal though? At some point I'm wasting all of my resources trying to upgrade normie items where I have a 0.01% chance of getting 2 more physical damage % or something silly.

[scenic hound]

The multi-players are currently sleeping soundly in their cribs. They indeed OK.

[empty cliff]

nothing really wrong with starting a new build if you feel satisfied with what youve done but maybe try setting goals? "I'll farm x item. I'll reach x tooltip dps. I'll push to this amount of corruption"

Also you can always come back to a build later, or find items that can improve it on other chars

[balmy current]

Multiplayer is being released with 0.9.0 which will come after September.

[hollow pelican]

Whoa, are you sure about this? The way Berserker is worded it only turns on when you're below 35% health, but you're saying it's just like Endurance where it applies to damage taken above low health that is dealt below the 35% threshold?

[wind night]

hey guys, so i just bought this game on steam and getting a bunch of errors trying to log in.. is this common? is it usually fixed? or should i just refund? trying to get the general vibes

like.. licensing error, linking account error...

[junior flint]

emmm I've never had that maybe verify files?

[empty cliff]

could try submitting a support ticket as well

[wind night]

Did the ticket, thanks

Ill sleep and see if it’s resolved tomorrow

❤️

[empty cliff]

good luck! This game is very very good so hopefully it gets resolved easily 🙂

[brittle atlas]

This is how all of those nodes (berserker, death’s door) work

They’re like endurance, which is why they’re good

[lunar holly]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

Directed by Robert B. Weide 😆

[balmy current]

It doesn't. #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[balmy current]

Berserker isn't, Mike tested it.

[frosty mirage]

Looked like there was even some confusion internally as well

Devs are human, time to revolt

[balmy current]

Indeed, I am disappointed, I thought Kain was better than that...

[delicate dust]

Me too.... me too... 😭 I apologize for the confusion

[frosty mirage]

How dare you be human Kain

[brittle atlas]

on the bright side

-5 points from the primalist tax

[woven fulcrum]

So I jus dropped this.
I know the limitations of it as a stand alone
but would this be worth crafting on
and what/how would you do it?

[copper fable]

Ive seen it used in smite builds with high lp, so ideally you would find/craft a good smite relic with +3 smite and other stuff.

it just gives you a source of leech as well as shock/chill for free basically.

but its only usable at 3/4 LP since its not THAT much of a bonus.

otherwise any good elemental build can use it if you slap good relic stats on it, but its mileage will vary since a DoT ailment build will generally just use a bleeding heart

[woven fulcrum]

This was sort of my instinct on it.
Hadn't considered the smite part though. hhhhmmmm.
I'm a sentinel guy at heart so that has appeal. 😄

[hollow pelican]

Keep in mind they're still good because of Endurance, you're more likely to stay in that range of health (especially if you have Hideskin from Druid) so you get more value than you might think from Berserker. If Berserker worked like Endurance itself, it would just be absurd.

[brittle atlas]

eh, it would mostly be good for extra 1-shot insurance

it's unlikely you stay below 35% for any real period of time

since leech is busted af in LE

unless you're a non-leeching build

like minions or something

[mystic acorn]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzDMwRgo

[brittle atlas]

low life can't benefit from endurance

so that doesn't really apply to the above point

[mystic acorn]

right, but doesn't Berserker apply to ward?

[brittle atlas]

sure

primalist access to ward is kinda jank at best though

all they really have is crow stuff

which is a pretty heavily invested setup

[native sail]

I'll do it. It'll be bad, but I'll do it.

[brittle atlas]

for imo minimal if any benefit over hp

[cold plaza]

Ok, so Endurance applies to ward, right? 🤔

[native sail]

It does not

[hollow pelican]

Don't you do this

[hollow pelican]

I don't think that's true. If you have Hideskin, your Endurance threshold is half of your EHP pool, it's entirely possible to take many hits below half health before you're able to leech back up. It's very rare you're just dealing with one huge hit, and if you are, you probably should have avoided it.

[brittle atlas]

?

hideskin only brings your threshold to base 30% of your hp

from 20%

[hollow pelican]

sorry I edited HP to EHP

[brittle atlas]

ah

eh, my experience is that if you're under max hp, leech puts you back to max hp almost instantly

if you get hit under 35%, you'll be there for a fraction of a second before your hp shoots back up

and if you're even 1% over 35%, any follow up hits you take won't be reduced

so you need to not only get hit under 35%, but then take more hits under 35% before you get over 35%

which isn't likely unless you're a non-leech build tanking a ton of small hits

and if you're a non-leech build, why are you in the middle of stuff taking a ton of hits?

[empty cliff]

with all the hp nodes in primalist I wonder if you could get enough hp to make the ward/s from exsang enough to compensate for not having easy access to ward retention

[hollow pelican]

I don't think most builds leech instantly back from below 35% to full instantly, some certainly do (any Lich build) and well geared end game builds obviously can, but there's a long time before you're at that point.

[brittle atlas]

it's not even if you leech back to full- if you leech over 35% you lose the benefit of the node

which means a 1% hp difference is suddenly turning off a defensive layer entirely for the full damage of the next hit you take

[hollow pelican]

People still take Boar on non-melee builds even though it's inconsistent, I think you just consider Berserker the same way

[brittle atlas]

even if your hp is pingponging from constant damage, if you ever go over 35% you're suddenly in more danger than being even 1% lower

I just can't see the node being turned on in a way that is relevant most of the time

[hollow pelican]

it doesn't have to be relevant most of the time, just relevant enough to save you from dying

[brittle atlas]

if it isn't relevant most of the time why not spend those points on something that is?

[copper fable]

I mean tbh if you dont get the benefit of both halves, I dont see it being worth it. Because before when the logic was it worked as endurance it was useful anytime you were in danger, but with the clarification it seems really dodgy at best and only useful on the rare ward LL primalists.

because like arborus said, if you are at 36% and take a big hit you are just dead

[hollow pelican]

Why spend points on having 3k HP if you rarely take more than 1k damage before leeching up to full? Because you want to plan for the worst possible scenarios.

[brittle atlas]

having 3k hp works all the time

[cold plaza]

Arb, would you take Berserker on a normal life-based build? Or would you take 12 life per point?

[hollow pelican]

if you never drop below 2k HP, it does nothing to have 3k

[copper fable]

yeah but thats because thats 1 shot protection. Berserker offers you no 1 shot protection, which is what matters for the most part

[mystic acorn]

Leech and %Healing benefit from higher max HP regardless

[hollow pelican]

You don't get one shot in LE unless you make a mistake and stand in an aoe you shouldn't

or you're at 600+ waves in arena

[cold plaza]

many people are typing

[brittle atlas]

almost all deaths in my experience are 1-shot or close to 1-shot personally

because leech is so strong anything that isn't a 1-shot can't kill you

[copper fable]

Yes, but you also rarely die to chip damage in LE. I actually very rarely die in my experience the way I play LE

and if I do die, its because I made a mistake and took a big 1 shot

[hollow pelican]

show me a streamer clip of someone dying to one shot?

[copper fable]

having more health means less things cause that situation

[brittle atlas]

which of the many perry clips would you like linked

[copper fable]

poor perry

[native sail]

Me on my way to get one tapped by T4 Julra because she spawned a ground degen and attacked at the same time on my melee character with no free-use movement skill