❔┃ask-the-community

[stone granite]

I have never, ever seen an arena key drop outside a node

[frigid orbit]

Yeah. Just keep playing the game. At some point they drop like candy

[stone granite]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-you-sit-on-a-throne-of-lies-elf-idontbelieveyou-gif-9081954

[frigid orbit]

Get to empowered monoliths, push corruption to 500+ and you will get at least 1 key per echo. At least approximately. Never really counted them but I often don't even loot them. I only loot them if they are close to other items. And will only sell them for the money they provide.

You can ask other players like Arborus who are playing the game for a long time.

[stone granite]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-believe-you-whatever-lies-gif-3602502

[copper fable]

you can get memory keys as drops too

slightly more value!

[stone granite]

https://tenor.com/view/you-know-you-lying-sure-kid-cute-gif-15707630

[bronze trellis]

I wonder if stacking smite on throwing attack hit with javelin siege ballista would help solve the clear issue

didn't even make this connection until now

smite with the lightning bolts

[brittle atlas]

my experience is that it doesn't particularly help the clear

at least not very substantially

[bronze trellis]

imma try to stack 4 2x2 idols for the smite chance

[brittle atlas]

was one of the first things I tried last patch when javelin came out and it was pretty underwhelming

[bronze trellis]

I'm prepared then

[brittle atlas]

I finished the campaign with it and said "ok that was enough" basically lol

[bronze trellis]

I'm having an ok experience
damage is kinda low but I don't even have the unique spear equiped yet

but also I have not much damage specced in anyways

tbh I just wanted to try electrify

[brittle atlas]

I was doing some electrify focused stuff and the damage was really bad even with quite a lot of twinked out leveling gear

I'd have to see if I can find my recording of the majasa kill

it was really slow

[bronze trellis]

I'm gonna ignore all the warnings and proceed

worst case I just don't try electrify again

(and also javelin lmao)

[brittle atlas]

https://streamable.com/7dqjuy

I found it

[bronze trellis]

wow

that's a 5 minute clip

is that recent or old

[brittle atlas]

that's from 083 release day iirc

so majasa has been nerfed slightly since then

september 5th or something?

[bronze trellis]

yeah that doesn't look good

hmmm

when I get to Majasa and I remember, I'll record my own kill as well

[brittle atlas]

the big thing would probably be having volatile reversal

[bronze trellis]

I was thinking that

was going with sigils (that I don't have specialized) since it has both a tonne of ignite chance and some defensive buffs

[brittle atlas]

for mana and the stupid strong debuffs

you could go sigils, I just don't really like using it most of the time personally

[bronze trellis]

yeah, they have a really high mana cost for some reason

my build also utilizes smite spam so it may or may not work out

if it doesn't I just switch sigils out with reversal

[brittle atlas]

I'd definitely use reversal over sigils

the damage increase is waaaaay higher

the debuffs on reversal stack

so if you reversal on top of any enemy on cooldown you can pretty often get them to be taking 260% increased damage

[bronze trellis]

wait they stack

[brittle atlas]

ye

[bronze trellis]

I know my next specialization then

honestly that sounds like an incoming nerf to volatile reversal

[brittle atlas]

you'd think so, but it's been like that for uh

however long its been in the game

[bronze trellis]

an eventual incoming nerf 😌

[brittle atlas]

probably

it's a bit insane

but it's part of what keeps damage over time builds good/viable on sentinel

[pseudo dust]

Interested to see your take on siege barrage, it's my favorite throwing build

[bronze trellis]

this is still not even level 50 so the take isn't fully running yet

once I equip the bident then I'll be able to know for sure if it's good

[pseudo dust]

The clear is not amazing. I was using hammers for clear for a pretty long time

[stone granite]

You know what's insane? Firefly came out 20 years ago.

[rare fjord]

aura of decay can't 'hit'?

[brittle atlas]

by default it doesn't hit

it has some nodes that add components that hit

and its poison application scales with a percentage of your poison chance

[rare fjord]

you mean poison nova or poison volt?

[brittle atlas]

yes

and putrid bombs

[rare fjord]

oh bolt yeah

[brittle atlas]

poison nova, putrid bombs, and poison bomb add elements that hit

[rare fjord]

impressive

thanks

[bronze trellis]

yeah ngl this is pretty wack

[wheat saddle]

harbinger right? any nodes i need to take specifically?

[bronze trellis]

for volatile reversal?

[wheat saddle]

yep

[brittle atlas]

Both of the nodes that debuff from void rifts

Idk their names off hand

[bronze trellis]

me personally, I just wanted pure damage from my reversal
so I went with both Timelost Vitality and Timelost Wisdom
along with both debuffs

and I learned from Arborus that the debuffs stack

so yeah

big damage

[wheat saddle]

but its only really usable vs bosses right./

as in the application

since it pulls you backwards in time no

?

[bronze trellis]

you'd only want to be using them against bosses really

[brittle atlas]

Generally yeah

[wheat saddle]

ok sounds good.

[bronze trellis]

it does pull you backwards so keep that in mind

a small tradeoff for like 2x damage

[wheat saddle]

if i have about 70 vit, since spell damage is so high for void spells, should i just scale it off spell damage % inc?

[bronze trellis]

sure, unless you already have quite a lot inc damage

[wheat saddle]

no im asking if it scales harder with spell damage as opposed to void damage

[bronze trellis]

ahh okay

I don't know how much base spell damage really anything has in this game, but if it has a lot of base damage already then yeah it sounds like inc damage would work better

[static glacier]

usually base damage is very low

can look at epoch tools or tunk lab

most meele attacks have 1 base damage 😛

[rugged lichen]

Volatile is a game changer, most noticeable dps boost you can get... I only found out yesterday that you can put points into half of other 2 subclasses, volatile slaps

Full charge rebuke, holy aura and volatile

Then spin2win

Too bad lunge has no utility besides movement yknow

I miss the old crit

[tired kite]

I'm stuck in the story. I can't kill Majasa on her second form. She's too fast and too strong for me. My rogue can't keep up

Been trying for the past hour. Unfortunately she reverts back to her first form if I die. I can't even cheese my way out of it by slowly chipping away at her

[frigid orbit]

Do monoliths first and go back to her later

[brittle atlas]

alternatively, post your character. if you're level 50-something and struggling with majasa it's 99% missing some core defense/sustain mechanic and you probably won't have a good time in monolith either

[tired kite]

Thanks. I'd really appreciate a look, although I'm managing very well the first timeline: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/EAL00wdA

[frigid orbit]

I get the reasoning why they don't add filter options for LP but I regularly seem to have a bug where hovering over an item on the ground does not show its tooltip. I have to stop walking and do some stuff to see it. In high monoliths you can sometimes easily die doing so. Lost some good echo rewards when picking stuff up at the end 😄

Is it something on my end or maybe related to a skill/playstyle or does it occur for others as well?

[dim crater]

I’ve been hearing the term “auto-cast” a lot. What is that?

[fringe birch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42kVHV7K2Jg

[dim crater]

Ty

[frigid orbit]

@raven patio Don't want to discuss in ask the devs: Of course it is a serious question. They could have intended it this way to be able to bypass really bad modifiers resp. at least avoid them for the following echoes. By dying at after completing the echo you first lose the reward but you also lose the modifiers. This of course can be an advantage or disadvantage depending on the node. Most of the time you like to have easy modifiers since they push your rarity with the disadvantage of a downside. Some of them are even negligible for some buils while others are really bad...

[brittle atlas]

you have about half the hp you should, only 24% endurance, and no apparent hp sustain mechanic. skill-wise...I'm not really sure where you're trying to go. You've got crit stuff, bleed stuff... kinda pulling hard in two opposite directions.

I guess Sanguine Hoard is leeching you some of your bleed

[dim crater]

Ahh my keyboard doesn’t have the number pad on the right. Anyone know of a way to set a macro?

[raven patio]

Its definitely a bug if dying affects the connected echoes.

[brittle atlas]

ye, pretty sure mod cheesing is uintended, just unfixed

kinda like snapshotting

because it removes almost all of the difficulty in pushing up corruption

[raven patio]

yeah which in itself is a major player downside

[tired kite]

Will try and see what I can do about this. Thanks.

[frigid orbit]

True. Just surprised they didnt fix it already. Seems to be easier than changing all skills to avoid snapshotting. Just make the the monolith refresh modifiers at the same time the objective is completed and the stability is updated.

Of course we dont know the code but if it really is unintended they 'should' have fixed it up to now...

[raven patio]

If you do not have a numlock on keyboard you could try AHK. Its an auto hotkey app. I have never used it but some people do. Ask in forums/discord about the use of third party software in-case it causes more issues. Good lucj

I have an issue yesterday where my save got corrupted cause I resized my game window..

[acoustic thicket]

Mike shares his thoughts on auto casting in this dev stream. The link should bring you directly to his response but it is at 37:46 if it doesn't.
https://youtu.be/HS2l96Xcwu4?t=2264

[acoustic thicket]

Penetration works for dots too ?

[brittle atlas]

yes

[frigid orbit]

Even penetration from skill-trees work as long as it does not specify "hit"

[robust talon]

any ultra OP lich build (no minion)
currently it is the only one i am missing to test on 0.9.x

i saw almost no builds for that mastery on youtube after 0.8.x
VK and primalist earthquake maul and magebow are the most popular rightnow

[brittle atlas]

083 killed the best lich build

other ones are good but not op

Mao's crit build is still fine

[robust talon]

sad, ok thanks man as always for reply, now i try to search Mao's

[bronze trellis]

ngl this doesn't seem good

Scales of Eterra

you get a lot of damage but after 10 seconds you can't avoid, you do little damage

I guess you're meant to cycle between fire and cold?

really dangerous cycle though

wait it mentions a lightning overload

where does that come from

[dense root]

there are 3 versions of scales

[bronze trellis]

ahh okay

[frosty tinsel]

Guys, what's the deal with Osprix lightmages hitting so hard?

[balmy current]

That's just you not moving out of the big telegraphed hit

[frosty tinsel]

That wasn't my question.

[topaz parrot]

can u still use an exalted item in the eternity cache even though it has a sealed affix?

[frigid orbit]

yes, but the sealed affix is ignored

[topaz parrot]

oh ok, perfect, ty!

[acoustic thicket]

I tried it and it asked for an item with 4 unsealed affixes

It had 3 +1 sealed mod

[frigid orbit]

You need 4 unsealed affixes; sealed are not recognized at all

[topaz parrot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/806477628831432725/865661301220966451/catto.gif

[charred musk]

is Iron Blade worth getting in the sentinel vengeance tree? or would the armor shred be more effective than added iron blade dmg procs

[static glacier]

They hit like a truck cause you are not supposed to get hit... telegraphed attack 😬

[balmy current]

The TLDR is, the more warning you get, the bigger hit you should expect.

[dusky kite]

Not sure what you mean by "dangerous", but it does require you to have at least two general purpose skills of various elements slotted, and thus resort to the slightly less effective generic modifiers.

[dusky kite]

Lightmages don't hit too hard for the amount of time they actually take to hit you. The little meteor shits on the other hand do hit way too hard for how little wind up their bullshit little meteor has.

[dense root]

embermages hit really hard yeah

i also feel like i’ve been hit by them from off screen before but i might be imagining that

[balmy current]

They certainly used to be able to hit your from offscreen (on a 1440 monitor)

[frigid orbit]

Mh. Does the resolution change how much you can see in the game? I could only imagine that a change of the aspect ratio would do this.

[bronze trellis]

yeah just aspect ratio

[copper fable]

ive wanted to play a scales build for a while now, but I can never find two spammable spells I like lol. Lightning blast can be made to be lightning or cold, then I guess fireball? but man swapping between those two does not seem worth it for scales. And almost no other class then mage has anything close to spammable I feel can make use of scales

[frigid orbit]

I definitely would try going cold + fire. You can make use of both parts of the throne of ambition jewel doing so. Great against bosses.
But I'm also thinking for a while and havent found a good combination.

[copper fable]

Like the problem is not enough low spammable skills, if we go cold + fire, then we have lightning blast, fireball, elemental nova(?) as cheapish spells. I just dont know how you make a scales build feel good with big nukes like glacier and meteor 😦

[balmy current]

Yes, it changes how much you can see, not just the graphical quality

[frigid orbit]

Are you sure you don't mix up aspect ratio and resolution? Just checked it and for 2560x1440 and 1920x1080 (both 16:9 aspect ratio) I can see the same amount. Going to a widescreen aspect ratio adds some more content obviously.

[bronze trellis]

something feels off with static
like I have the nodes that give it 1 lightning damage per charge, and at 100 charges that should be a really decent amount of damage per discharge
but then I try it and it does barely anything
level 23 just before getting to End of Time

is static just low damage or should I really be going for 200 max charges

[dusky kite]

tbh static mostly sucks due to how infrequently you can fire off full-charged blasts, and is only used in builds like proc SB (which is mediocre itself due to numerous scaling issues) for the rightmost nodes that discharge lightning blasts on nearby mobs. However, I've not tested the 1 base damage per charge node extensively.

[bronze trellis]

it's just so weird

I spec into the mega damage and at 100 charges it does like 1 tick of what Disintegrate does

[dusky kite]

Are you using the gamblers fallacy with disintegrate? That might just be giving it disproportionate scaling at low level.

Compared to your regular skills that is.

[bronze trellis]

not using any uniques

[dusky kite]

you should

[bronze trellis]

once i get to End of Time I'll do dummy testing

[dusky kite]

if you are running disintegrate

[bronze trellis]

not to mention the default limit of 5 enemies per discharge

that's like, half a pack

lmao, even after I pick sorcerer, the 100 charge static does the same as a damage tick of disintegrate

very disappointing 😔

I'm not expecting it to do giga damage with 100 max charges, but wow

[bronze trellis]

yeah decided to just stick with disintegrate
first time playing this class

I like how I can speen really fast with it

https://tenor.com/view/docspin-bttv-dr-disrespect-twitch-spinning-gif-16447597

though ramps absolutely fuck with it

[indigo timber]

when does dungeon reset?

[stone granite]

I tested the 1 damage per charge with 150 charges and it felt absolutely terrible for what you expect

[bronze trellis]

yeah I was thinking like

mega damage but really high mana cost and it takes a bit to charge up

but then all I got was

no damage but really high mana cost and it takes a bit to charge up

[stone granite]

Yeah I switched to elemental nova that has no limit on number of creatures it hits and wipes the screen

There's so much in the game to make static a build and it's the weakest spell

It's actually so weak I thought it was a bug

[bronze trellis]

same

I was considering if the added flat wasn't working right or that it had a really low damage effectiveness

adding 100 flat damage while also having 100% more damage shouldn't make the skill do barely 400 on a dummy lmao

[stone granite]

For 150 mana it better pop a rare

[copper fable]

Yeah I dont know why it does such little damage, it really does make no sense.

Cause according to the planner, static has 65 base damage, and has 325% added effectiveness

there is no way that is right

[stone granite]

Yeah it'd be blasting

[bronze trellis]

community consensus seems to be that the skill's bugged

[stone granite]

From what I'm reading it used to have really bad effectiveness so I'm wondering if it never actually got buffed

[copper fable]

Also the target limit is 😬 should probably get some help there

[bronze trellis]

I don't think that 65 base is right

I did like a single charge static on the dummy and got I think 34

[stone granite]

Ok I posted on the forums in the feedback section

[bronze trellis]

I guess the static part of the name is right

it really is just static lmao

[stone granite]

I would actually like it if it was static aura and worked more like holy aura

it has a node that passively shocks nearby enemies already

[topaz relic]

Is it on purpose that if you put a +1 Lightning Blast helmet on, spec into Convergence and take off the helmet it doesn't remove the point from Convergence?

[copper fable]

most people that do run static generally run it as an aura and just use the passive "zap" part of the tree, you can make it trigger lightning blasts for example

[copper fable]

Yes, this is so you dont hot swap for bosses

[topaz relic]

FUCK

ffs hhahaha my plans have been foiled

[stone granite]

It probably took a point somewhere else

[topaz relic]

literally gonna have to rethink everything

[bronze trellis]

yeah, my issue with Static is that it tricks you into thinking it's mega damage with that 1 whole lightning damage per charge
and you think like "BIG DAMAGE"

[balmy current]

Yeah, it's always been disappointing.

[dusky kite]

come on bruh this is the single most obvious thing that was considered by the developers when they first thought of the + skill stat

[topaz relic]

Yeah of course lmao

im too used to playing much more smaller aprgs that havent properly considered this shit

[dusky kite]

But is it actually bugged? The damage calculation just doesn't seem to line up with, well, everything

[balmy current]

I don't know, I assume it's bugged in some way since it can get an aweful lot of flat damage (which should then be modified by the added damage effectiveness) but it seems to do nothing.....

[bronze trellis]

yeah I'm assuming it's bugged as well

[dusky kite]

I'm just asking cause you've been around, and given that it had continuously sucked since I started playing last year, I assumed it's been reported by now

I just don't play enough and trying static is maybe in top 100 builds I haven't tried yet, maybe. Closer to top 200 probably.

[bronze trellis]

trying out static rn
100 charge static with +3 lightning spell damage from the tree
426 damage
100 charge static with +6 lighting spell damage from the tree and the big damage node
371 damage

it literally does not work

lmao

no wonder it felt like it did nothing

it does do nothing

[topaz relic]

I did have in my head that I wanted to do a static build until it literally tickled them so yeah

tbf you dont even need to number check it it just sucks lmao

[dusky kite]

lol let me wind up the client I'll try something

[bronze trellis]

in fact the lighting spell damage small nodes do nothing either

wtf

[topaz relic]

how odd

[bronze trellis]

it specifies Discharge

and the skill does "discharge"

but Discharge is also capitalized

[topaz relic]

the only thought would be instant cast has some weird thing to do with scaling but you'd think at LEAST the nodes within the tree specifying the skill would do something

[bronze trellis]

now I'm wondering if the nodes are trying to buff Discharge, but nothing is named Discharge

capitalized

lowercase

[topaz relic]

discarge

imagine if thats the reason, would be fuckin hilarious

[bronze trellis]

well for the bottom image, it's just a text description so it'd do nothing

[dusky kite]

It will be hilarious if it turns out that nobody had reported this for over a year now

[bronze trellis]

the top one might be messing with the skill though

or the wording that's seen in multiple nodes, like the top image

this is a pretty big bug

Static just doesn't work correctly

huh, the node Empower doesn't display as a DPS increase on Static's tooltip

but Power Surge does
but Power Surge also doesn't work

skill's cursed

[topaz relic]

very lmao

[bronze trellis]

!bug

[ripe brook]

Please post bug reports on our forum: https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/bug-reports. Thanks!

[dusky kite]

yeah well no source of flat lightning damage seems to work from what I had on hand in my stash

[bronze trellis]

made a bug report on it

ingame DPS was about a 12-13% difference between having the node enabled or disabled

[dusky kite]

some nodes do still work surprisingly, mostly the ones not linked to damage or other stats of the discharge

[bronze trellis]

while tooltip DPS was a difference of 400%

[dusky kite]

btw my tooltip dps went down a bit after replacing my frostbite gear with vilatrias set, which is completely nonsensical

[frigid orbit]

This is probably because of your frostbite dps. Discharge should still apply some stacks which do a lot of damage if you have still some frostbite scaling gear equipped

[bronze trellis]

if Power Surge actually worked correctly, Static could be really decent

though that's just the nature of a 400% damage boost lmao

[dusky kite]

yeah right nvm this should be the case, but obviously the real damage didn't go up with the set despite me having around 40 int with it equipped. I've ran a couple of quick tests and it seems that all nodes not directly modifying the discharge damage are working.

[wild laurel]

do low life builds need exsang + last steps

or can it work with just exsang

[static glacier]

low life builds existed before the boots were in the game 😉 so ofc it "works" its just a lot worse

[marsh maple]

I mean

your playing low life at that point

everything is a lot worse at that point

[azure lion]

my level 49 lich is using only exsang and at about 200% ward retention i have the same hp as before, but i feel tankier because ward regens faster than my base hp regen, leech is useless though

i thought endurance worked with ward too but apparently not

[knotty juniper]

Do the drop rate increase blessings work for boss uniques? For example, does "increased drop rate of body armors" increase the chance to drop Wings of Argentus?

[tired kite]

Fine youtubers, a whole lot more interesting than build guides on youtube would be a series of videos on buildcrafting principles for Last Epoch. Tutorials of a sort, that could help players start thinking more objectively about their builds and plan ahead, with information on essential game variables, class breakdown, what are the pitfalls to avoid when making your own build. common mistakes and whatnot...

I dunno. Something that would help reduce the dependency on cookie-cutter builds on youtube.
I find myself at level 65 with a rogue build that is most likely not viable. I'd happily pay the cost of respeccing all the skills and passives, as well as look at my equipment. But the game variables are so intricate, it's hard to know where to start. What works and what not.

[marsh maple]

Well to be honest with you. Not to be analytically minded, but generally, the reason why I mainly do build guides for 90% of my content is due to the popularity of it. People usually don't watch tutorials or guides, at least as of now.

I've been experimenting with guide videos

I also try to be as informative as possible in my videos, as you can learn something even if you dont watch the actual build guide. So a lot of wisdom is imparted their in the first 4 minutes of every video.

but I have plans to work on stuff like that eventually, but the demand for it is very low currently, and stuff like that would be better placed near launch/multiplayer

[knotty juniper]

Is it possible for Wings of Argentus to drop with LP?

[frigid orbit]

Yes, but it is one of the two uniques with the lowest LP chance (LP item level 115); this and the fact that it is the rare empowered drop makes it really really hard and lucky to acquire one

[knotty juniper]

Got 7 of them and no LP sadge

[misty sonnet]

Is the doom effect of siphon of anguish just that strong or does the dps of my skills not display properly?

[stone granite]

Depends entirely on your character

[balmy current]

The base damage of Doom is significantly higher than all other ailments, though it can only stack ~4 times.

[neat ibex]

Are the shurikens cast through Shift affected by the Shuriken Skill tree?

[ember karma]

ya

[acoustic thicket]

Which mastery in your opinions is the best at fire damage and which for cold? So which masteries utilising these elements have the most potential to hit 250+ corruption in empowered monos, and the most fire/ice support from skill trees?

[tired kite]

Is it expected or a bug that a room is inaccessible from all entrances in both timelines in the Temporal Sanctum?

[spare pewter]

Can you access it by using your dungeon ability?

[tired kite]

No. Also closed on all sides

[bronze trellis]

if they're interested in the layout then I guess it's not intentional 🤔

[rapid ferry]

https://i.imgur.com/EHb9Z46.png this doesnt increase poison damage dealt by a bow attack right

[balmy current]

it does

[spare pewter]

So just for clarification this specific room was completely locked from all sides in both the divine and ruined version of the dungeon?

[tired kite]

Yes, @spare pewter

[spare pewter]

If this happens again please submit a bug report and take a screenshot of both divine/ruined eras of the mini map. From my understanding it shouldn't be locking you completely out of both zones.

!bug

[ripe brook]

Please post bug reports on our forum: https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/bug-reports. Thanks!

[past sequoia]

Hey guys, does anybody know about the steam/LE bug, where if i close last epoch steam keeps showing (x stop) for last epoch, and only way to start up the game is if i crash steam and reopen (no last epoch doesnt show up in processes)

[wild lance]

Hey guys, completely new to this game. I've started playing Rogue, could anyone recommend a build to follow or a video at all?

[rapid ferry]

is there chance to bleed/poison thats not specified to hits

[balmy current]

Only on specific skills with the DoT tag that the devs want to be able to bleed

And that (Hail of Arrows) requires a unique quiver

But generally, ailments require the target to be hit to be applied.

[cloud kindle]

I have this sometimes. Clicking to top of the Steam window changes the button to "Play". It's just a visual not updating

[rapid ferry]

ty llama, helpful as always :)

[past sequoia]

Ty, ill see if it works for me aswell, apreciate the help @cloud kindle

[hasty tartan]

What should I add with the remaining forging potential?

I'm playing a shadow daggers/umbral blades build.

[bronze trellis]

is it possible to slap on phys throwing attack damage - mana cost
or is that ring only

[hasty tartan]

rings only

[bronze trellis]

hmm

I forgor neck prefixes

[hasty tartan]

could go crit multi or chance

or % throwing dmg

not sure what'd be best. my crit chance with non-shadow daggers skills is pretty low, but this is mainly a shadow daggers spec

Another option would be to shape it and hope for a better implicit roll. risky though, since I likely wouldn't get a 4th mod

ended up choosing throwing attack damage, but only got t1

[brittle atlas]

crit multi is basically always the right choice if you're a crit build

[vague cloak]

Im confused and dumb here as a newbie. So to increase the difficulty im supposed to find an echo with shade of orobys?? something about corruption?
Im lvl 100 and monos are too easy

[frigid orbit]

Just for clarification. You are not level 100 but you are playing in level 100 monoliths, am I right?

[vague cloak]

no i am lvl 100

i just played mono over and over

[frigid orbit]

Hard to believe you never encountered a node called 'Echo of a World' in any monolith. Which resets the echo web and adds additional corruption to your monolith which increases rarity as well as enemy health and damage. The amount of added/subtracted corruption is depending on the distance to the center of the monolith web.

[vague cloak]

oh those

[sly mauve]

Any suggestions on a build I could do that's based around a 'movement' ability?

Due to physical constraints, clicking with the mouse is difficult for me. I've done spin to win but I'm wondering what other options are out there

[frigid orbit]

You could auto-bomber style builds. They rely on the so called Numpad-Trick which requires a keyboard with a numpad to autocast some skills on cooldown. You essentially only have to walk. There is a very common void knight autobomber if I'm right.

[vague cloak]

numpad trick? im playing autobomber atm

[frigid orbit]

Just google it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42kVHV7K2Jg

[vague cloak]

thanks

[sly mauve]

Using abilities is not a problem for me, my left hand is fine. What I'm looking to avoid is the regular clicking/holding to move my character.
Warpath allowed me to just hold Q and I would move and kill.
(Yes, I know I can bind move to another button, but from what I've found interacting with objects/npcs/etc gets really weird when you do that)

[stone granite]

Get a gamepad

[brave ledge]

am I correct in thinking that for fireball ignite scaling, fire penetration from "lavamancer" in the sorc tree will work and that "immolated core" in the fireball tree will not? ( "fire penetration" vs "fireball hits have additional fire penetration")

[frigid orbit]

yes; if it specifies hit it does not scale applied ailments

[wheat saddle]

how do i fix the bug 'option x' on settings?

[subtle patrol]

Okay I just watch this video https://youtu.be/puVm7R0o26I. My question is where does the Shred/Pen fall into the damage equation? From this it sounded like it came in after all other essentially working like another separate More damage application. (Base damage+(Added damage*added damage multiplier))Increase DamageMore Damage which is then plugged into the equation against Monster defense which is where I would assume shred(shock) and Pen in apply?

[snow spruce]

Shred/Pen are a More modifier

[copper fable]

yes its an effective more multiplier, but it would fall in wherever that video is considering monster defenses.

Damage * Monster Armor * monster Resistance

Is the way id look at it.

[frigid orbit]

I think we need a more clear definition of 'more multiplier'. Resistance reduction is one unique source of damage increases. Pen and Shred go into that. But two sources of resistance reduction are additive. Thus, it is essential only an increase modifier. But due to its rarity is works more or less like a more multiplier.

My personal understanding is that 'more multipliers' would always be multiplicative. This is not the case for resistance reduction.

[copper fable]

Also agree with that, but its hard when answering quickly or without overcomplicating it

[frigid orbit]

Yes. We have to use 'more modifier' increased rarely and should talk about something like 'separate multiplier' in this context.

[stone granite]

Increased rarely*

[copper fable]

it would be something like a "damage taken" modifier, which is essentially what it is, but those exist too so 😦

[snow spruce]

^^ As revelasti says, its not the rarity that causes it to be a more multiplier, its the effect it has in the damage calculation. Pen and shred just happen to be additive together.

I do like your term of Resistance reduction though, as that is the bucket they both fall in

One just happens before the cap, the other after

[subtle patrol]

okay cool this help out a lot, you have basically verified that it is part of the monster defense portion of the equation.

[frigid orbit]

I think 'damage taken' is another separate multiplier. Pen/Shred reduce the resistance but modifiers like provided 'increased damage taken' from skills like volatile reversal should still be multiplicative.

At least in my understanding. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[copper fable]

yeah thats why its like

[subtle patrol]

yes he does mention that in the video

[copper fable]

what do you even call it

lol

2 many modifiers, its just easier to write down a formula and get everyone to be on the same page. Does G have a damage formula like a basic one

[subtle patrol]

he also states that Shred (shock) and Pen are added together

[stone granite]

So technically shred and pen are not additive, just for most intents and purposes they functionally do

[frigid orbit]

Yeah. There sources like 'resistance reduction', 'armour reduction', 'increased damage taken' are all unique damage multipliers but additive in their own grouop

Shred and Pen are not additive. But their effective resistance reduction is additive. Shred will have no effect if the enemy has, from any source, too much resistance. While pen always has full effect

[subtle patrol]

correct, which is why if you have say Lightning shred 100% with 20 stacks of shock (100%) and lightning pen 100% they apply seperately but are added together making it 300% reduction cause I do believe shred has a cap this essentially lets you break that cap.

[copper fable]

its mostly just that because monsters dont have resistance by default in 90% of cases, you dont get to see pen work in the way that it works in say PoE

[subtle patrol]

I thought if they had no resistances it still applies reducing it into negative, which then in turn increases your damage?

[stone granite]

Well you can get echo mods that give them resistances and some monsters DO have resistances

lightning spiders resist lightning for instance

[copper fable]

yeah so if you had 75 lightning pen, and a monster had 150 lightning res, you would treat them as if they had 0.

but because monsters almost never have capped res or even over capped res

pen just works at the end like extra res shred.

[frigid orbit]

Yes. It works like this. But when you start at 0% resistance going from -100% resistance to -200 effectively only is a 50% more multiplier. It has a Diminishing Returns effect. -100% is twice the damage while -200 is thrice the damage.

[copper fable]

I think thats why most people just add them together, cause thats just how it works in 90% of cases

[stone granite]

I said that

[copper fable]

yeah!

Also, diminishing returns gets people confused too

cause people say increased has diminishing returns, which is only true relatively. First 100% is double damage, then its x3 after another 100%, which is linear scaling not diminishing, its just relative gains which have diminished

Seen people fight about that one a few times lol

[subtle patrol]

So you are saying if I average 8 stacks of shock giving me 40% reduction I am better off not going over 60% lightning pen?

[stone granite]

And also, pen works every hit while shred requires successive hits, so for clearing pen is usually better while shred helps a lot on bosses

[frigid orbit]

Isn't this always the case for DR? It is always only meant with respect to the global effect it has. Cannot think about any case where it is different.

[copper fable]

for people with math training no, it means something else, Atleast thats what ive seen it described as. I personally am in the "its diminishing returns" camp, but thats just cause im stupid

[frigid orbit]

Getting shock and shred will always be worth it with respect to damage. Investing in additional penetration on gear is different and depends on how much resistance reduction you already have.

At least for builds with high hit rates

[subtle patrol]

I can get my penetration from passive or skill trees, this is why I am trying to understand this interaction casue I can save my gear slots form other stuff like crit chance and crit multi

[frigid orbit]

Mh. I have a math background. Although applied math and not economics. Wikipedia says 'diminishing returns is the decrease in marginal (incremental) output of a production process as the amount of a single factor of production is incrementally increased, holding all other factors of production equal' which is essential the same as in our use-case. We increase a source linearly, e.g. 'increased damage' or 'increased armour' but will see a non-linear effect on the global stat (damage output resp. damage reduction).

But I get why this can confuse people without experience easily.

[copper fable]

yeah that makes sense to me, I just know I saw some people literally fight about it quite a few times in the arpg community haha.

[frigid orbit]

Mh, I think I have to correct myself. For damage reduction through armour it seems to be really a DR effect. Multiplying your armour by 1.5 does not give you 1.5 the damage reduction.
But for 'increase damage' it is different. Multiplying your 'inc damage' by 1.5 always gives you 1.5 the damage you would do without.

I can understand people fighting about it. But in arpgs this effect is well known as a diminishing returns effect as far as I know 😄

[copper fable]

yeah armor is true diminishing as is dodge

it also means armor shred is also DR

since its just inverse armor formula

[frigid orbit]

true

[frigid orbit]

Try to compare the relative increases of both stats you can realistically obtain. The higher one wins. But keep in mind: If enemies have resistance from any sources penetration/shred has increased effect. If your gain is similar I would go for resistance reduction. But also keep in mind, like revelasti said, that shred has a ramp up time while penetration and crit multi don't have it. But Crit Multi is unreliable on its own with less than 100% crit chance 😄

One additional note: When assuming 0% resistance, resistance reductions base is a 1x multiplier while crit multipliers base is a 2x multiplier.

[subtle patrol]

well my crit chance is stupid high, but my crit multi is relatively low. My passives give my 15% elemental pen and I can possibly spare 4 points in my skill tree for another 60%. Shock (Shred) is a little tougher to get id say I maybe stack between 4-6 so only 20-30% reduction.

[frigid orbit]

Keep in mind that shock and penetration have a reduced effect on bosses where it matters the most. Only 40% effect.

[subtle patrol]

I am currently evaulating my build because I hit a wall and realized I am split 50/50 with two types of damage and I need to fix my build

[wheat saddle]

how do i fix this?

[raw fern]

Delete the le_graphicsmanager.ini file and rerun the game

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/graphics-options-bugged/42604

[novel smelt]

Hey, so I want to make some Shattered Lance set build, but not sure which class/skill. Sentinel with extra regen from Sigil looks nice, but idk if his attacks would be good enough for it, since they don't really synergize with cold. Any suggestions?

[knotty juniper]

Is there a way to stop Julra from positioning on the edges of the arena? It makes dodging the wave significantly more difficult while lasers are active and I'd like to avoid it.

[cloud kindle]

Depends on your build, maybe Warcry could move her for example

[knotty juniper]

I'm Flame Reave

[long locust]

hey guys i have a weird issue with my game again. Ive played LE on 2 different steam accounts but same LE account my first account i played my character up to lvl 18 and the 2nd account same character to lvl 40. i thought my save could sync between the 2 and tried resigning in to see if that fixed it but it didn't. Any way to fix this or is it a permanent thing? Is there a sync option ive missed?

[dusky kite]

Try either shatter strike sb or cold were bear druid.

[dusky kite]

Run out of range to the opposite side of the safe zone, that will cause her to reposition

[knotty juniper]

I'll try it

probably gonna make an entirely different build for Julra tho, trying to do it in melee is a pain

[rare fjord]

this can be triggered with upheaval totems?

or thorn totems

[frigid orbit]

Totems are not melee attacks. Meaning it should not be able to proc it.

Even if they the totems would do melee attacks the attacks wouldn't be yours. The node says 'your melee attacks'

[rare fjord]

thanks

I've been confused

[lavish dew]

Does symbol of loss in the harvest tree affect DoT ailments ? the description says harvest hits but the node itself just says marked enemy dmg

[kind sage]

As a auto bomber void knight, should I just prioritize Vitality and resistances with idols?

[acoustic thicket]

Do shard, glyph and keys drop increase with corruption ?

And better ones too ? like glyphs of despair or ascension things are more likely in higher corruption ?

[static glacier]

Upheaval totem is a meele attack but not "your" @rare fjord

[frigid orbit]

Mike made a comment lately in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs . let me search for it

[static glacier]

Precise the totem does a meele attack

[frigid orbit]

Right.

[static glacier]

You still cast it

[frigid orbit]

Nevermind my previous comment. It was about something different.

[rare fjord]

I thought the totem is using my skill at first 😂

[wheat saddle]

so my 3lp strongmind doesnt show crit strike multiplier on epochtools, can anyone tell me why?

its been imported straight from my save file.

[fierce kraken]

Report LEtools bug in Dammit's discord. (If you haven't already).

[tired kite]

To be clear, the chest drops after completing an echo is dependent on the number of monsters killed, but the echo rewards are not. Correct?

[mystic acorn]

correct

[kind sage]

Wait wait wait. So I should clear maps to get more loot when doing monos?

[bronze trellis]

if you're doing an echo that you really want the most loot of, sure
but if you're doing them for general loot then you want to go pretty much straight to the objective while clearing everything in the way

some of the echo maps are so large, it's not worth full clearing them
instead of just going to another echo

[kind sage]

Hmmm. How do I know if I want the loot? So if it’s a ring one I would get more rings ect

And thanks for the replay homie

[bronze trellis]

yeah exactly
what is says on the node is pretty much the only thing you'll get from the center reward thingy

and the rewards chest is always non-specific

[tired kite]

That's not my understanding.
There are two rewards when completing an echo. The chest to the right and the floating cache in the center.

• The chest is not related to the echo reward. It drops random loot, and loot quantity/quality is related to the number of monsters killed.
• The cache in the center is the echo item reward as stated in the echo information panel. This one is not related to the number of monsters killed. It will drop the same amount of loot regardless.

[mystic acorn]

No, if it was a ring one you'd get the same number of rings, but your chest at the end on the right side of the 'Echo of a World' will contain more random loot. So if you are after the node rewards then you should just beeline to the objective and move onto the next node. If you're after just anything from that area level then you might want to consider clearing the whole place.

[dense root]

it doesn't really make sense to clear the whole place unless we believe the reward chest on the right scales non linearly with monsters killed

like if the scaling is such that going from 90 to 100 monsters killed is more impactful than going from 0 to 10 monsters killed then full clearing one echo will give more total rewards then clearing 10% of ten echoes

but it seems a lot more likely that the reward increase is linear so 10% of ten echoes will be the same as 100% of one echo but the ten echoes will also give you the node specific rewards ten times

[tired kite]

Right. I've been looking at that myself. Hence my initial question, since I couldn't quite put my finger on how the chest rewards work.
It's my understanding that not only the reward increases linearly, but there is a min-max range of drops. Meaning you can clear the whole map and get few loot, or beeline to the echo objective and still get a large number of items dropping from the chest. Just doesn't seem worth the effort to clear maps.

[kind sage]

Thanks for the explanations fellas. Think I will just keep quick clearing and hope for the best.

[bronze trellis]

what would I slap onto a 1LP Exanguinous? just life I guess?

[dense root]

increased health yeah

[torn stone]

Anyone have tips for dealing with the void pools spawned by the chronomancer boss in the Temporal Sanctum? I'm playing a melee build and have max resistances and even some DR from like Aspect of the Boar, but I just can't survive long enough to stay close, which is how I deal damage/get leech. I'm level 84 and trying to do the tier 2 (level 80) version, and just getting wrecked. Since it's damage over time, Armor doesn't do anything against it, is there any other things I can be looking for?

[dense root]

they get cast where you're standing so move to the edge when she starts casting

[stone granite]

She gives you the pool when you shift era, watch it when she shifts to you

[acoustic thicket]

hey, what should I focus to increase my DPS ? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/LB7GwEgB

[mystic acorn]

What is your buffed tooltip for Devouring Orb and Smite with 4x sigils up and Orb/Anomaly casting?

[dense root]

tooltip damage is pretty misleading in my experience

like at least go to the training dummy instead

[mystic acorn]

Well I'm running effectively the same build with similar skills and I need a frame of reference for the difference in damage for the suggestions I would make

[dense root]

right i'm saying the tooltip will not give you a meaningful frame of reference

[mystic acorn]

As it stands now I would say getting more cooldown and base crit would be the most beneficial, but I am not sure if that is strictly true as I am still new.

[mystic acorn]

In what way, I am comparing like-for-like on the same build

[dense root]

in the way that the tooltip fails to account for a lot of things so unless every difference between your build and their build is something the tooltip accounts for the numbers won't be representative of the actual difference between the builds

[mystic acorn]

What isn't accounted for? is there a full list so I can start compiling a calculator for stat weights?

[dense root]

i really couldn't tell you off the top of my head

[balmy current]

The tooltip can't account for conditional effects, such as damage v stunned/chilled/shocked/etc targets, how many stacks of damaging ailments you're able to keep up, etc.

It's supposed to give you a reasonable view on whether any given piece of gear is likely to be an upgrade or not. The devs are working on an updated character screen & should, hopefully have it in the next patch (mid-March ish).

[hasty tartan]

I'm trying to do a ballista build - is it normal for it to be a meh leveling skill?

[snow spruce]

I think general consensus is that its a pretty meh skill in general.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/builds/skill/ba1574

There are two well known build makers who have it in their builds... but at quick glance, I don't think its their "main" skill

[hasty tartan]

Hmm.. I thought I'd try it since I have the uniques for it and it sounds cool.

There is one with it as the main skill

But I'm also in act 3

Where everything feels weak

[wild laurel]

does this cost extra mana still if Im getting the 30% more

[snow spruce]

Yes, it should

[sly fable]

Basic question - does it matter what base I use for rune of ascendance outside of type (eg. a wand)

as in - any level, and mods, any base, rune of ascendance rolls from the same pool with the same odds?

[snow tusk]

where do you guys look up unique items to see which boss drops what?

[raw fern]

LE Tools has good database: https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/timelines Click on the timeline

[acoustic thicket]

no. a wand is a wand for that rune

[static glacier]

a rune of ascendance on a wand is basicly an "extra unique wand" dropping in a lvl 100 area .. it can roll everything this drop could roll with the same probabilities but a lower chance for legendary potential

so its a "worse drop" 😦

[cloud kindle]

Don't forget they have the Minion tag, so you must invest on Minon stuff 😉

[dim crater]

I have a question! If I’m playing an auto bomber vk and I have an item that says increased crit chance..will that work for my orbs or do I need increased spell crit?

[snow tusk]

hey this helps a ton! <3

[static glacier]

yes

its just a more generic affixe and rolls lower numerical values than a more specific affixe like spell crit

[dim crater]

Cool thanks! Slowly but surely my build is getting good

[kindred osprey]

Just asking: Is there a good marksman lightning-multishot or shaman lightning build (that doesnt circle around static totems, it should circle around my abilities that i can cast freely and dont have to worry a lot about positioning (like totems)? would be thankful for one or 2 build-names i can google, i havent found a good one yet

[dusky kite]

For lightning shaman that's gonna be a no, unfortunately it has really bad lightning support - only limited to procs off tornado, malestrom, passives and converted EQ, of which only converted EQ doesn't suck

If you want a mobile lightning "caster" have a look into some sentinel builds based on proccing converted smite, I think either javelin- or hammer-based builds might be good.

Much better than something you can brew up on shaman at least

[kindred osprey]

I have a smite hammerdin but i need some more lightning ^^ but thanks man :)

[sleek valley]

does the target dummy have no resistance or smth ?

im lvl 33 and alrdy deal 5,1k dmg

[mystic acorn]

no defenses at all from what it seems

[dense root]

regular enemies don’t have resistances too for the most part

[bronze trellis]

yeah no defenses

[snow spruce]

It also doesn't get the damage reduction that monsters will, which is the real difference here

[dense root]

the thing target dummy is missing is the damage reduction

[sleek valley]

does this work with 1 dagger + 1 sword ?

[snow spruce]

it should

[sleek valley]

for early on, do you loot everything for gold, or just ignore till a certain lvl

[frigid orbit]

Don't loot items for gold. Not worth the time

[dense root]

imo only pick up things you plan to use

[sleek valley]

ah ok

[dense root]

maybe also random uniques if you don’t know which ones are good yet and don’t mind storing them

also pick up all crafting items since they don’t take up storage space

but selling items for gold is really inefficient and gold is rarely the thing keeping you from improving your character

[static glacier]

Dummy has 0% dr at all levels

Normal monsters have like 90% at lvl 100

[jade badger]

May I get Oriani with an ascendance rune?

[midnight timber]

should be able to... it's a random drop, not a boss-specific item

[stone granite]

Lightning blast sorcerer is pretty popular

[kindred osprey]

i try that one right now 🙂

[thorny glen]

what is your Tier list for classes this patch guys? i just made Action Rpg's javelin smite paladin and the damage alongside the forge guard manifest armor/shield throw are the most broken things i have played so far, i would say sentinel>primalist>acolyte>mage>rougev🤔

[dense root]

idk rogue can do some pretty busted stuff

i don't know that i've played enough builds to feel comfortable ranking the classes but i have trouble believing rogue is last

[thorny glen]

from the things i have played and saw from video builds the speed against julra with rouge i feel it...slow

[dense root]

rogue can kill t4 julra in <10 seconds if you want it to

[thorny glen]

idk, im more a "nuke everything" guy

[dense root]

like as far as i can tell poison flurry is probably the single fastest way to kill julra (or any boss)

[thorny glen]

i need to see that, the forge guard i mentioned melted her in in the same amount of time

and orobyss was a trashmob

[dense root]

manifest armor is definitely strong too yeah

[thorny glen]

i will check rouge a little more then, sound cool

[frigid orbit]

It is always a question which norm you apply to rank the classes. Just T4 julra speed? I mean mages have some builds which do her in around or below 40s (and possibly freezing her) while still having great clear speed in 500+ corruption.

[dense root]

there are definitely a lot of different ways you could rank classes

[thorny glen]

yeahi would take julra as the norm, orobyss is becoming too easy imo

[dense root]

high corruption farming, t4 julra, arena are all different and then you have to decide if you care about just the best build or if the class having depth matters too

probably more stuff i’m not thinking about

[frigid orbit]

Ever played 700+ corruption?

[thorny glen]

not yet, this isn't the only game i play, im on +/-450 with one character and im doing some secondaries

im still searching for a build to feel comfortable with

[frigid orbit]

Was just asking because you said Julra is the hardest content because it is more easy than oro. At high corruption the modifiers go crazy. At 750 you get +300% ele/phys damage or 100% inc damage/life while having 300% more helath and damage. Some minions can do crazy damage. I do not want to think about what happens at 1k+

I always want well rounded builds. Like good clear; decent movement speed and survivability paired with good bossing. Not the best at any of this but decent at everything. Always good if you can take a hit xD

[sleek valley]

is there a thing called EXP dropoff in this game ?

like if im lvl 40 and i kill lvl 44, it will give me less experience than a lvl 43 would

[frigid orbit]

No, you should always do areas as high as you can do decently fast

[sleek valley]

ah ok

[dense root]

there definitely seems to be a penalty for being underleveled but i don’t think it exists and/or is substantial until you’re a decent amount below the area level and as far as i can tell it mostly just exists to offset the increased experience higher level monsters give

[sleek valley]

but generally i should just rush story ?

[dense root]

yes

[bronze trellis]

yes

[sleek valley]

aight

[bronze trellis]

rush story but still get your passive points and idol slots

[dense root]

in general the advice is to rush through both story and regular monoliths and then spend your time farming empowered monoliths/dungeon

[marsh maple]

Idk man I saw a steam review, of a guy complaining that the op strat was to teleport in a zone, kill all the mobs, pick up the drops, sell them to the shop then do it again. He then quit after 4 hours.

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[dense root]

nice

[marsh maple]

Yeah getting to empowereds is the first step of any char and when the real game begins

[bronze trellis]

me when the PoE labyrinth is only for the top 1% of gamers

[sleek valley]

me when boneshatter nerf

[bronze trellis]

whoever at GGG thought an infinitely scaling modifier would be good
is dumb dumb

[thorny glen]

When they are struggling and put in chat they are celebrating for finishing the chapters

[dense root]

labyrinth is miserable to be fair

[sleek valley]

no more Nebuloch + 11 endurance charge

[dense root]

like the ten minutes each league i spend doing lab are the worst ten minutes of the league

[thorny glen]

lab is tedious

[bronze trellis]

getting lab trials is the worst part of league start

[dense root]

they got rid of trials

well they exist but you don’t need all six

[sleek valley]

cant wait for finishing lab and getting oneshot at the last izaro with his slingshot of green

[dense root]

the offering is just a key now you don’t need to find everything

[bronze trellis]

yeah it's nice
I wish they also removed act trials 😔

[sleek valley]

cant wait to be oneshotted by abyssus cause my armor is only 10k

[frigid orbit]

Like old Aspect of the Shark (pre 0.8.3)? xD

[bronze trellis]

ngl I don't know what that does 😔

[frigid orbit]

Was similar on beastmaster. Could stack aspect of the shark which grants increased attack speed and melee damage. More attack speed -> more stacks -> loop

[thorny glen]

when even a talking sword says izaro is a imbecile you know is real stuff....

[bronze trellis]

that sword is so wack

[bronze trellis]

ahh
that dumb dumb too

[sleek valley]

wait what sword

oh

oni goroshi ?

[bronze trellis]

yeah

not only is it really dumb to get (but I do respect it for being creative and one of PoE's only secrets)

[thorny glen]

yas, the truest waifu of the game

[dense root]

i’ve never had an oni because i don’t hate myself enough to spend ten hours fighting hillock

[bronze trellis]

but the creator is uhhh
yeah

[thorny glen]

more easy to buy :^)

[dense root]

yeah but it’s useless by the time i can afford one

[sleek valley]

i made 40 ex a day and i still cant beat sirus

[thorny glen]

lmao

[bronze trellis]

gaming 😔

[sleek valley]

RAIN OF STARS panik

[snow tusk]

I've farmed Oni 3 or 4 times

[dense root]

sirus is a pretty mechanical fight

[snow tusk]

its good for getting through an audiobook

[dense root]

although it has miserable visual clarity

[bronze trellis]

I've only done Oni once and it's 100% not worth it at all

[thorny glen]

the cheapest stuff i killed sirus with was 60c

[dense root]

just infinite black and red on top of other black and red

[thorny glen]

was an A5 tho

[bronze trellis]

GGG subscribes to this design philosophy

[dense root]

yes

[thorny glen]

the fight with sirus is more fight against the arena than sirus himself

[dense root]

like i don’t die to sirus 99% of the time at this point but that first try was really unpleasant

[snow tusk]

I remember when people said Atziri was too hard to be reasonable

[thorny glen]

what i hate most of him is his last phase "DIE" side to side laser, the hitbox comes out before the animation of the attack himself

[bronze trellis]

I died to Sirus on a cwdt build because there was mega heavy degen ground and I couldn't see it through all the skill effects

[thorny glen]

like...dude c'mon

[sleek valley]

o yea btw we have a death counter in LE or not

[snow tusk]

I was gonna ask

in PoE I use /clear a LOT to clean my screen up

are there similar commands in LE?

[dense root]

i know it shows if you have no deaths but not sure about anything beyond that

[snow tusk]

I like it when it says "DEATHLESS" on your char

[frigid orbit]

Back to topic: What to put on a 3LP Volcanus? 😄

[dense root]

my default assumption would be melee fire, flat crit, armor shred/frailty but i’m definitely not an expert on fire melee builds

[frigid orbit]

Mh, k. Never played a build with it but 3 LP cries for it. Was thinking maybe to not only scale melee but the bolt as well. Would be an argument against flat crit maybe...

[dense root]

that's true

i guess the spell volcanus triggers is fire and scales off attunement and smite is the same way so maybe there's something there

i have no idea how you would make that happen though

[frigid orbit]

Maybe. It also has 300% added damage effectiveness. Some sort of warpath smite. Have to check old build guides. I think there was one in the past.

[dense root]

if nothing else warpath does have the adaptive spell damage while spinning and smite per second nodes

[frigid orbit]

Yeah. Sadly swords do not have any sort of spelldamage affixes

[dense root]

yeah you'd have to take like % fire damage and melee attack speed for more hits (i think that works with warpath)

[frigid orbit]

Maybe speed/spell crit/crit and shred?

[dense root]

can 2h swords have spell crit?

[frigid orbit]

no...

[dense root]

i think it's just flat melee crit and % crit

if you're a paladin you can do the flame burst stuff in holy aura maybe?

i have no clue if this is actually good though

[frigid orbit]

Could also go for attack speed and ignite and utilize the proc to get more stacks.

But hit based is probably better

[rapid ferry]

im not going to lie the whole bleed on hit bleed chance poison yadayada stuff with hail of arrows is hella confusing, because i seriously cannot tell what works and what doesnt

https://i.imgur.com/9pGsvAl.png this doesnt work

acid flasks poison pool global poison chance does work

lacerating arrows from black arrow doesnt (?) work nvm thats for puncture only im stupid

toxic quiver from black arrow doesnt work, but getting the crimson quiver note works

[dim canopy]

Is the Aspect of the Shark effect from the Ocean Maw passive added, increased, or more? The description says it is more effective, then the per point effect is written like it's added. And then again given how inconsistent descriptions and effects can become in games, it might just as well be increased, too.
I suppose it being added or more would have the same outcome, as there are no other sources of added Aspect of the Shark effect in the game, but it being increased would make heaps of difference when it comes to gearing. Anyone know which one it is? I suppose it could be tested with some effort.

[sleek valley]

whats the general idea for leveling ?

rushing thru story and go to arena asap ?

[rotund flame]

Saw an unique, i believe, with 15%less dmg recieved while wearing a 2hander. Cant find it now. Can anyone help with that?

[raw fern]

This one ? https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCswRgZiA

[rotund flame]

Yes. Thx a lot!

[lavish dew]

Its increased I believe and its the same as the idols/body/helm mods. It would be insane if it was more since that would negate feeding frenzy and make shark stacking quite busted.

[cloud kindle]

This is "on hit" and Hail of Arrows does not hit: it is damage over time

[rapid ferry]

yet toxic quiver doesnt specify "on hit" and still doesnt work

which is why im confused

[rare fjord]

how does this work?

1.3^4 or (1+0.3*4)?

[earnest nacelle]

sorry this is late, but the thing you're missing is that toxic quiver itself doesn't need to specify that it's on hit, because that's how poison (& other ailments too) work in general

see the tooltip here:

[rapid ferry]

wait so why again does it not work?

the crimson something thing it can give you works though so im confused :(

[earnest nacelle]

it doesn't work because hail of arrows doesn't hit, and you need to hit to poison

idk what crimson thing you're talking about

[rapid ferry]

its in the same tree from black arrow

[wheat saddle]

god its you again

i have bad ptsd

[rapid ferry]

hey jabba :)

but its not really clear this time around xD

[earnest nacelle]

ok I just got on a character to try it, I think it's because hail of arrows has both an initial hit and a dot

so that one initial hit can bleed, but the dot part doesn't

I only have the 50% bleed chance from dark quiver and I'm never getting more than 1 stack per hail of arrows cast

[static glacier]

at 3/3 the node grants you 30% more damage per stack of adrenalin rush ... so at 3 stacks you would get 90% more.

[rare fjord]

thank you

[dusky vale]

Question about the talent Marrow Thief in the Bone Curse spell. Does it proc off minion kills? Should I see the buff on my screen, I haven't yet.

[static glacier]

A) affix item1: increase damage while channeling by 60%
compared to
B) affix item2: increase physical damage by 60%

@robust talon

the item one will increase ALL damage you do while channeling no matter if its ice, void or phys

the item 2 will only increase physical damage - nothing else

so for a 100% pure physical damage build its the same

if you add any other flat damage on your skill the item 1 would be better

furthermore the "while channeling" thing should also work for lets say a smite you procc while warpathing (at least if the wording is accurate)

[lavish dew]

Would farming Orobyss in multiple timelines be faster for making corruption than just grinding one ?

Have never really pushed corruption because I felt it took too long.
Could someone confirm if this strategy I had in mind would work to make it faster ?

1. Kill Orobyss in some timeline say Reign of Dragons -> 16 corruption and timeline reset
2. Do another timeline say Winter and kill Orobyss around same range -> 16 corrupt + 8 from bonus = 24
3. Do another timeline say Abomination one and kill Orobyss around same range -> 16 + 12 corrupt from bonus

sorry for long question

[frigid orbit]

Not sure about the math. But the bonus corruption most of the time helps only to catch up, not to get more than in the other timeline. I would push one timeline and catch up on the others later. But I'm not totally sure.

[lavish dew]

Ah ok thanks I thought you could kinda always be catching up to the highest corruption and keep rotating to make it faster

[robust talon]

thank u so much as always , yeah u are correct, if you have multiples type of damages in your build is better the item A, because it will increase them all,
true

[static glacier]

the "physical" tag of the skill is almost irrelevant for this question in most cases

if i add 200 flat cold on my 1 base physical damage of my meele attack it still has a physical tag but item 2 would be an obviously worse option 😄

[tired kite]

I cannot understand what it does. It seems it only adds crit chance to my attacks.

The perceived benefit of refreshing my bow mastery stacks doesn't seem useful, since these only go away when I stop using the bow

I'm thinking respecing this passive in favor of % damage ones. I just can't quite understand from the tooltip what is it I am supposed to gain from it.

[static glacier]

3% inc crit chance per stack and point invested?

so at 5/5 you gain 15% inc crit per stack of bow mastery (additional to the normal effect)

so at maximum you get 75% inc crit for your 5 passives

so the passive basicly upgrades your bow mastery with a second effect

[tired kite]

Ok. Thanks. So if I understand, this is mostly a +crit% node.
I'm moving towards a bleed build. So I'll respec this. Thanks again.

[static glacier]

it is purley a crit node 😉

doesnt do anything else

for a pure aliment build its totaly worthless yep

[tired kite]

Does anyone from community posted any image illustrating the in-game distances in meters?

[balmy current]

Other than "nearby" is roughly the size of the circle around the training dummy, no.

[tired kite]

There's a few skills mentioning meters in their tooltips. Would like to have a visual aid of what that actually means in-game. But I guess I can test that myself.

[rare fjord]

which ailments are effective for defense when encountering bosses?

among blind, chill, slow

[frigid orbit]

I'd say frailty and chill are the most important. Followed by slow and blind.

[rare fjord]

thx

[balmy current]

Blind is only useful if you don't have capped crit avoidance or a reasonable amount of less crit damage taken

other than that it's kinda pointless (unless you have a skill that does more damage to blinded mobs)

Frailty & chill are must haves though

slow is nice but, IMO, not essential

[frigid orbit]

Doesn't it make projectile attacks less precise? If so I would consider it quite useful for range builds. But the other three are better.

[balmy current]

Yeah, but how many bosses have projectiles?

[frigid orbit]

True forgot he asked specifically for bosses. There it is less useful.

[balmy current]

Personally I'd rather have slow than blind

[frigid orbit]

Yeah. Me too.

[sleek valley]

whats the most smoothest mapper ?

[knotty juniper]

In the same vein as the person asking above, what is the fastest build you are aware of? Something that just zooms through echoes at mach 5.

[raw fern]

Autobomber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2OZIkw5Flo

[knotty juniper]

ngl that does not look that fast

[frigid orbit]

Ngl this is LE and not PoE. Gameplay in general is a little slower 😄
Autobomber is definitely one of the faster builds.

[dense root]

seems hard to get much faster than a build that spends 99% of its time in echoes either walking or using a movement skill

[sleek valley]

yea im thinking of flicker strike but in LE

ig theres none

[knotty juniper]

If only that was a thing

[dense root]

le is just a slower game

[knotty juniper]

Guess I'll have to figure something out myself

If no one else wants to go fast, I'll make it so

[sleek valley]

ill try cyclone ig

in LE if theres any

[knotty juniper]

of course there is

Warpath

[dense root]

i mean it’s not that no one else wants to go fast

[frigid orbit]

I wouldn't say no one wants it just is not possible to go super fast. Most movement skills have a cooldown. But you can of course give it a try to discover something faster 😉 Rogue can also be relatively fast if I remember correctly

[dense root]

fast just means something different

the entire game is slower

[knotty juniper]

as if that will stop me

[dense root]

it definitely will

[knotty juniper]

I have a need for speed

[sleek valley]

umbral is slow asf or thats just my standards too high

and the others lock u in place animation

[dense root]

don’t most attacks lock you in place at least for a short while

like your character has to complete the attack animation

[bronze trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/top-gun-gif-5685912

[sleek valley]

umbral and the initial skill for rogue has the feeling that its the fastest

others not so much

flurry

[frigid orbit]

Is every/any Staff considered a Melee Weapon?

[sleek valley]

ok nvm after feeling it again they all have the same animation speed

its just that melees with such small radius feels really underwhelming with ranged enemies nuking you

also at what level is arena usually you should go

[frigid orbit]

Go as high as you want. Arena currently is more about epeen and not about rewards. Maybe decent exp but monoliths get close or even better with corruption.

[sleek valley]

epeen = ?

[frigid orbit]

ladder

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/epeen

[sleek valley]

ah ok

i heard someone from here says that arena gives a really huge chunk of exp

[frigid orbit]

Yes, it the thing arena is decent for it. But progressing/playing monoliths just gives better rewards and blessings etc. while still giving decent exp.

[knotty juniper]

I have found a way to make Autobomber more my speed. Add Paranoia and Lunge across the map

[frigid orbit]

Yes. Works great. Doing it myself currently but still need an LP Paranoia.

Cast Speed also makes it go faster because less downtime for spells

[knotty juniper]

Time to farm helmets

[sleek valley]

when will gold be scarce ?

[knotty juniper]

hopefully never

[frigid orbit]

When you need more stash tabs and each costs 1kk xD

[sleek valley]

besides trying to gamble

[bronze trellis]

we don't really know if gold will be rebalanced for trade

[knotty juniper]

you just buy stash tabs

lots of them

[bronze trellis]

I hope it does because then gold will be useful xD

instead of having millions just sitting there

[knotty juniper]

I mean, stash tabs are pretty useful

[bronze trellis]

if you're using 20 stash tabs then that's on you

[sleek valley]

wait you guys keep armor ?

[frigid orbit]

Mostly exalteds

[sleek valley]

i barely use 1 at lvl 56

ah

so higher levels

[knotty juniper]

I have 8 tabs for exalteds, 7 for uniques and 5 for my LP items

among others

[frigid orbit]

Here I am with 100 tabs and 20 of them are unsorted dump tabs xD

Always need new ones because I dont want to clean up^^

[knotty juniper]

I usually end up cleaning them before it gets that far

sold like 50 uniques yesterday lol

[bronze trellis]

50 uniques for like 200 gold I'm guessing 😏

[knotty juniper]

yep

but they were useless dublicates so I don't mind

[bronze trellis]

what if we could shatter uniques 😳

[sleek valley]

is this hard to do and is it rewarding for a lvl 57 player

[bronze trellis]

not too hard and yes

1st level though

[dense root]

dungeon has 4 tiers, first tier is level 55 and is very easy

[frigid orbit]

Pro tip: dropping uniques is faster than selling xD You make more gold in the saved time^^

[dense root]

really the first 3 tiers of the dungeon are pretty easy

[bronze trellis]

dropping keys after a point is faster too

[dense root]

the rewards are good though

lots of exalted items

[sleek valley]

im assuming exalteds are top tier

items

[dense root]

they can be

[frigid orbit]

Item with at least one T6 or T7 affix. Drop only

[dense root]

basically how it works is item affixes can be t1 through t7 and you can only craft up to t5

exalted items have at least one t6 or t7

[balmy current]

And what are you using that super high amounts of gold to buy?

[sleek valley]

more stash tab

its an endless cycle

[frigid orbit]

More stash tabs to hoard more useless LP uniques and exalteds

[balmy current]

Yeah, though there's limits to how many of them you need

[frigid orbit]

200 is the limit, isn't it?

Besides it was just the argument why you should not sell uniques from your stash but just drop them. More rewards, even gold in the same time xD

[sleek valley]

for the dungeon do i just mapping or skip to the boss

[dense root]

sometimes it's worthwhile to clear a decent chunk of the second floor

since it can roll mods that increase the number of exalted drops

[sleek valley]

welp i died at the boss cause she nuked the whole map and theres no place i can avoid t

[spare halo]

Hey, I finished the story and now I'm stuck at the boss of the second island in the Monolith (The Black Sun).
Problem is, I'm getting oneshot by all his moves even at 75% Void res.

[dense root]

you have to use the time shift to dodge the boss's aoe

[sleek valley]

oh

[dense root]

what are your other defenses?

[sleek valley]

i was so confused

[dense root]

resistance is not enough for endgame

[dense root]

you should be stacking health/ward, capping endurance (only if you're a health build), capping crit avoid, and potentially having some combination of armor/block/dodge

[spare halo]

ok thx

[bronze trellis]

880 health?

is there not a single health roll on your gear

[dense root]

you should probably have flame ward if you're a sorcerer?

i haven't played as much with mage as other classes but i feel like almost every mage build i've seen has taken flame ward

[bronze trellis]

yeah flame ward is dummy powerful

[dense root]

it's just massive amounts of damage reduction

[frigid orbit]

and/or damage boost as well

[spare halo]

I just used the ancient technique of just not getting hit to beat him, but yeah, I'll need some defs.

[sleek valley]

is the monolith map fixed ?

or its randomly generated

[balmy current]

Everything's fixed (at the moment)

[deft thicket]

Hi there ! Just looted this bad boy and I'd like to have your opinion guys on what's the best way to use it ! I was thinking about flame reave... what do you think ?

[spare halo]

Does Corruption also affect Quest Echoes?

[balmy current]

yes

[spare halo]

Ew.

[cloud kindle]

I would go Warpath, but I hard it is not very good anymore. Maybe @marsh maple can tell you more

[dense root]

i was talking with someone yesterday who had a 3lp volcanus about trying warpath to trigger all the different fire spells since they all scale off the same things (fire damage, spell damage, attunement, crit) but obviously without trying it it's hard to say if it's actually good

volcanus is common though so maybe if i ever get one with lp i'll try it out

[rapid ferry]

https://i.imgur.com/nIivUJe.png

anyone know what use this bow even has, to my knowledge poison is a dot and dots dont go against armor so why is there shred armor on it

[bronze trellis]

Probably to facilitate a dot hit combo

[rapid ferry]

so poison isnt purely a dot?

sorry kinda new or rather didnt play for a long time lol

[boreal parrot]

I posted this in the primalist channel but thought maybe a wider range could help here: #🐺┃primalist message
I have no idea why the mace I have equipped is doing a ton more Maul damage than the sword. I linked Fury Leap to Maul but it doesn't have any bonus damage that would be applied to lightning that wouldn't also be applied to physical so I'm pretty stumped

[frigid orbit]

Poison is a dot but maybe the class has some interaction supported by the unique, e.g., a build doing poison hit damage while still applying poison. You can scale both. And the poison dots reduce enemies poison resistance while the armour shred reduces the armour. Both would increase poison hit skills.

[boreal parrot]

Since my physical damage scales better than lightning and I get +5 strength, I thought for sure that it would do significantly more damage but it does not!

[rapid ferry]

im just gonna try using the bow for a bit, ty

[frigid orbit]

Never trust tooltip dps. Just use it as a some kind of guideline. The shock from the mace will reduce the enemies lightning resistance. It may be included in the tooltip dps. On the other ahdn I assume that the culling effect (instant kill) on the sword is not accounted for

In addition the mace has 20% more flat damage...

[dense root]

training dummy >>>>> tooltip

dummy isn’t perfect either but it’s better

[boreal parrot]

I was testing on the dummy because i thought the numbers might be off, but my Mauls with the sword were hitting around 28-33k and the mace was hitting like 45-51k

and that was like 1 hit, wait for stacking ailments to drop off, and also with stacking as many ailments as I can then doing the big hit

[frigid orbit]

Of course the hits of the mace will be higher. It is slower Wrong. This woulkd be PoE not LE xD

The sword will attack more often (higher speed) which grants an advantage you can not see on single hits. The instant kill is also at least 23% more damage and not visible. The higher hits of the mace are probably due to the higher base and the shock-resistance shred

Can you compare hits from the first hit without debuffs?

[boreal parrot]

mace:

sword:

[frigid orbit]

I'd still take the sword for its utility, attack speed etc. You will move faster and kill enemies below 23%

[boreal parrot]

oh hmmm fun fact: the "overkill leech" effect on that sword seems to be unaffected by the "you cannot leech health" affix

[frigid orbit]

Sounds like a bug

!Bug

[ripe brook]

Please post bug reports on our forum: https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/bug-reports. Thank you. :smile:

[balmy current]

Known bug

https://forum.lastepoch.com/search?q=%23bug-reports Overkill leech

[frigid orbit]

Luckily we have a Llama who lives in the form/discord and checks everything for us 😉

[balmy current]

It's that or spend time with my kids.

[frigid orbit]

He also always makes great decisions! You can ask his kids xD

[hard pecan]

Hello! Quick question, is there an option in game to see specific crit chance for a skill? (Like my skelly mages has increased crit change, but I want to see how much is the total with my character)

[frigid orbit]

Not yet. They will rework the character sheet in the near future. But it is relatively easy to calculate it yourself. If you don't know how and are interested I can explain it.

[hard pecan]

Ohh sure!

[wheat saddle]

maths incoming

girl u like numbers?

oeller got numbers

[frigid orbit]

Most skills and minions have a base crit chance of 5%. You can double check it, e.g., on tunklab (https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/minion/OldSummonSKeletonMage).

E.g. for minions: You have to first sum up all sources of '+# added crit chance' which affect minions, i.e., crit chance from the skill's tree as well as all sources of '+# added minion (spell) crit chance' on gear/tree. This base crit value now is multiplied by the sum of all '#% increased minion (spell) critical strike chance' resp. '#% increased critical strike chance' from the minion's tree.

'sum of crit chance' x (1. + 'sum of increased critical strike chance')

If one of the attributes just specify minions it will only affect spell or melees minions; otherwise both

Sounds complicated but is fairly simple 😉

[hard pecan]

Who doesn't like numbers?
Sweet, I am going to add that to my notes! Thanks~!

[frigid orbit]

Example: with '+3 added spell minion crit chance' and '115% incresed minion critical chance' you will end up with

(5 + 3) x (1. + 1.15) = 17.2 critical strike chance

[balmy current]

Only arty people don't like numbers.

https://tenor.com/view/sick-gif-9975164

[hard pecan]

So every "base" crit buffs is on the first part and every "increased" is on the second part

[hard pecan]

Where am I if I am both?

[bronze trellis]

yeah

[balmy current]

You need to be purged.

[bronze trellis]

and there's some affixes that boost flat crit by a lot

[frigid orbit]

Do you draw numbers?

[hard pecan]

Flat goes for the "base" part, "increased" part or the result?

[bronze trellis]

base part

[hard pecan]

I interpretive dance numbers

[frigid orbit]

Sum up base and sum up increased and multiply them as shown above.

[frigid orbit]

Sounds great as well 😄

[hard pecan]

Thanks for the helps!

[bronze trellis]

helping is cool

[hasty tartan]

For Puncture's Mutilate node, do you miss out on the bleed damage of the third hit, or does it apply it before consuming all stacks?

[bronze trellis]

[balmy current]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-vomit-luvicat-stupid-funni-gif-21439008

[hasty tartan]

I'm leaning towards the former based in its wording, but confirmation would be nice.

[frosty mirage]

… math nerd

[serene root]

if anyone could say how to empower timeline

i closed a few first timelines but couldn't empower them

[frigid orbit]

Do all three level 90 non-empowered and go to the center of them

[serene root]

Ahh so I have to close 90 first

[frigid orbit]

always prefer the right path on the lower timelines (higher area level, good blessings)

[frigid orbit]

yes

[serene root]

thanks a lot

[hard pecan]

If I take the warcry totem node and warcry maelstrom node. It would cast it on the totem?

And would the totem damage buff of maelstrom apply?

[wheat saddle]

can someone point me ind irection of details re: terms like 'horde of' or 'more' in sanctum rewards?

[dense root]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/dungeon/temporal_sanctum

[wheat saddle]

thank you.

[viscid cape]

Can every unique drop with 4LP?

[stone granite]

Sure. You could also get a drop with 4 t7 exalted mods too. Some day. A thousand years from now.

[bronze trellis]

some uniques have a much higher LP level, so it makes them much less likely to get more LP
like I think some have a requirement of level 100, so anything above 1LP is super rare

[viscid cape]

just asking if its even possible.

Have yet to see one ingame

[frigid orbit]

There are only two or three uniques which cannot have LP

[viscid cape]

is there a database for that or do you know which?

[frigid orbit]

The two quest uniques cannot get LP. Gamblers necklace and the ele leech gloves

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/search?query=Can't have Legendary Potential&in_description=1&exact_match=0

Orchirian's Petals is the third

[viscid cape]

thank you

[plush pine]

does attack speed help with casting spells?

[dense root]

not normally

there’s a separate cast speed affix for that

[plush pine]

so this wont help me cast smite faster correct

[stone granite]

And before you ask, throwing damage does not affect fireballs

[dense root]

it shouldn’t

[kind star]

Anyone play this game on GeForce Now? If so do you know how to import a planner using it? Can't seem to find the files for it even on my PC since it's cloud save on steam

[deft thicket]

Thanks ! Warpath is an option for sure. I really want to find the best use for it but I haven't figured it out yet.... and still don't have any good exalted for it :p

[deft thicket]

Let me know if you can try it ^^

[versed tangle]

does inc, more dmg of skill nodes afflict to bleed/poison dmg that skill apply?

[copper fable]

if its untyped yes

if it does not specify hits it will work

[cloud kindle]

Tell us when you find! 🙂

[mint prawn]

Should I use sanctum keys at early level (7x 8x) or continue leveling up to 9x before using them?

[copper fable]

its more about what you can handle rather then level, if you can do the content in them you want to farm then go ahead, your level is pretty unimportant aslong as you have maxed skills at 20

[dim canopy]

Do minions summoned by your minions (e.g. the Vines summoned by the summoned spriggan's Briar Summoner) benefit from your minion stats (e.g. increased minion damage)?

[wheat saddle]

yes

bc ultimately theyre minions

[robust talon]

what am i missing? why this is not working at all?

Melee critical strike multiplier of the boots
are not sinergizing with the gloves increase effectivness of bleed\poison
why?

[frigid orbit]

I think only general crit multiplier works. They boots provide melee critical strike multiplier

[wheat saddle]

correct

[robust talon]

i was hoping for a different answer, like they are bugged.
rip "super secret sinergy"

anyway thanks guys

[static glacier]

The super secret syergie of the boots is called manifest armor 😄

[wheat saddle]

yea tbh salt the wound just quickly became the most useless thing ive seen for me

when melee crit multi exist in a lot of things and u dont even allow it to matter, idk why even bother making the item

[versed tangle]

Is this only for HoA? or increase also poison/bleed that afflicted by other skill?

[frosty mirage]

Any bow attack, if it inflicts an ailment it will inherit the buff as long as it’s a damage over time tag which should include damage dealing ailments

[strange storm]

Hey everyone, I am wondering how you get Apathy’s Maw to drop? Is it an empowered mono only drop, a certain corruption, a certain level? Thanks!

[dense root]

it drops from shade of orobyss

i think you need like 50 corruption or something too but not 100% sure off the top of my head

[balmy current]

That's correct, though it has a higher chance to drop the higher the corruption, but the minimum required is 50.

So it's possible to drop in normal monos but unlikely.

[crisp sail]

Hello ! Does endurance applies when you're in Reaper Form ?

[balmy current]

Yes

[crisp sail]

ok thanks Llama ! 👍

[snow tusk]

how do you unlock The Stolen Lance?

I have outcasts, black sun, ending the storm and reign of dragons, but dragons is level 85 and the DB says stolen lance is 62

[stone granite]

they are all direct connections

the quests you do in the monolith sometimes has two path options depending on how you finish the quest

[snow tusk]

ok so I'm guessing that Outcasts have 2 branches on it, then?

[stone granite]

Yes, it literally asks you on the last quest which timeline to open next

[snow tusk]

oh man

I'm so bad at reading, I just click, man

thanks a lot

[rugged lichen]

Yo should I do all empowered timelines? Are there better blessings?

[frigid orbit]

There are 5 timelines which have blessings that improve your character stats. Others are drop-related. The 'useful' ones are: BlackSun, Ending the Storm, Reign of Dragons, The Age of Winter, Spirits of Fire.

Empowered provide the same blessings but with better stats.

[rugged lichen]

Ty

Gotta say they are way harder than lvl 90 ones

[frigid orbit]

Yes

[solar juniper]

Quite the diff bump

[lone skiff]

hooray, i finally found orian's eye. wats some fun build to use it

pretty good roll, 14% less fire damage

[sterile swan]

Does general elemental penetration stats apply to damage over time? Or is that limited to the Atrophy unique gloves?

[snow spruce]

Yes, they should

[balmy current]

As long as the penetration doesn't refer to "hits" then you're good

[ripe tiger]

which advanced class do I take if I want to try going fire acid flask?

neither blade dancer or marksman seems to support it much

[stone granite]

I'm not sure acid flask is meant to be a primary ability? Like it supports other abilities right?

[chrome warren]

hey friends

I'm having a hard time understanding loot filters, when I see them posted on the forums they always ignore everything but the class they're using.

Is there a catch-all filter i can use for someone who doesn't know what they really want to play yet or something like that? I wouldn't mind getting important gearing stuff for my main class (VK or BST) while also getting exceptional stuff for other classes

[ripe tiger]

sadge

[snow spruce]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/0-8-4e-heavyz-casual-loot-filters-for-all-classes-v2-6/25176 Heavy'z have been updated for the current patch and are very general

[chrome warren]

Thanks friend

[chrome warren]

Another question: I'm playing VK using War Path and all void melee stuff basically. Level 35 now and using Dreamthorn. I have no idea when/if I should replace it and how I'd go about doing it? Just gamble a weapon and then craft melee void on it?

[ripe tiger]

how do u sustain life on necromancer

feels like once im out of potions im basically fucked lol

[sleek valley]

dont get hit and focus on dodging and let your minions do all the work

not rly much you can do in that situation

[sleek valley]

it could if you wanted it to be

you have smth like this and you can just use acid flask as the normal damage hit and run build
or go decoy + shadow build to throw

[stone granite]

Well gear drops constantly, you don't have to gamble. You are only lvl 35, you'll see better stuff later

[bronze trellis]

is there anything that can potentially be both fire and void
guessing no, specifically because the weapon allows both mods

actually looking a bit, there might be 🤔

[ripe tiger]

First character, this is good right? what do i craft onto it? int? got it from the first monolith quest as a drop

and what does upgrading the skeleton levels thing do, does it make it +2 levels?

[stone granite]

Looks good if you use skeletons

Upgrading that affix will increase the minion damage line, the increase to the skill level doesn't always go up with each tier

[lament fox]

what are good mods to go for generally on a shield for a spellblade? I'm currently using this