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marsh maple
fallen seal
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Is multiplayer still going to be released this year?

random dock
soft prairie
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Hey, how can I contact support so they can upgrade my supporter pack? I bought the game off steam, but I don't think I was given the Ardent Gladiator support pack. Sorry if that's not how it works, I'd be happy to pay if it's not the case.

knotty hinge
indigo plinth
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Anyone can link me the lasteestt new about multiplayer ?

soft prairie
balmy current
ripe brookBOT
balmy current
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There are also monthly multiplayer updates but they've not had time to do one for November.

indigo plinth
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Ok so no news since september?

sharp grotto
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shrugR
It's happening before release basically

balmy current
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I think there was one in October

fierce kraken
balmy current
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ah

mighty frost
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so does the sacrifice cast by your skeleton mages have the bonus of your cast as well if you specialize in it?

brittle atlas
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no

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minions have their own skills and don't use yours

mighty frost
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cool, ty

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follow up question: is this node worth it?

brittle atlas
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if you're using it to do something, sure

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I liked using it for a zombies focused build

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that used skeletal mages sacrificing skeletal warriors to summon zombies (since zombies have a node that gives 30% chance to summon a zombie when a minion dies)

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and in doing so bypassed the mana cost of summoning zombies directly

mighty frost
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I was thinking about something along the same lines, but your idea might be incorporated too lol

restive cradle
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maybe dumb question but -- why do arena? seems like such an utter waste of time

sleek cypress
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For teh big penor leaderboards brah

brittle atlas
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this

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just for leaderboards, basically

dense remnant
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ehhhh

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most people that actually play arena do it for community races

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very few people push arena outside of those anymore

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because the leaderboard isn't something with any meaning

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(its full of cheaters)

brittle atlas
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I mean, the community race is still a form of leaderboard, no?

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people trying to place well in the race

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they're just basically subdivided weekly leaderboards

dense remnant
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sure, but I think for someone asking about the reason for arena, they probably arent aware of things like the community races

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so your answer is more likely going to just sound like you're talking about the in game ones.

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and I feel like it's pretty useful to point out how useless the in game ones are so people dont get the wrong expectation of what builds are 1) good, or 2) can do.

sleek cypress
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for teh big penor*

soft prairie
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I just defeated Lagon in the 3rd/4th monolith orwhatever. I'm given 3 blessing, 2 of which would be helpful - one for now, the other for the build I'm going to switch over to when I get my unique in like 10 levels or so, what do I do?

brittle atlas
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I'd not sweat over it since you'll want to refarm blessings in empowered monoliths anyways

queen maple
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I’m trying to farm the fulgurite shard and tool site says its a pretty common drop, does that apply to both normal and leg difficulty? I still don’t fully understand the new monolith since I haven’t played in a while.

dark fox
queen maple
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Ok thank you. I know the fulgurite shard drops on reign of dragons so I’ve set out to grind that part already.

icy moth
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How's the future of this game look for someone who plays 99% single player and doesn't plan to trade or participate in seasons? I'm primarily a grim dawn player if that helps put things into context.

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wait i suppose i should ask in ask the devs too, thats a really neat channel

brittle atlas
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Currently the game is only single player, so it’s hard to know exactly how or if multiplayer will changes anything major in that regard.

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Currently, I feel like the game is very SSF/single player accessible

knotty hinge
brittle atlas
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Like in a lot of areas I would say time to completion is a bit on the short side even

icy moth
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alright thanks for the info, ill ask in dev channel too

sleek cypress
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i'd argue that for a lot of reasons this is one of the best single player arpg games to date

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due to the sheer variety and variabilty of insane items you can get via exalted system, and now even more systems to come

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i mean.. not saying that it's single player perse. But that it functions very well playing ssf.

icy moth
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alright cool thanks, also wondering if you need to be online to play the game?

sleek cypress
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i believe you do but someone else should answer for sure

icy moth
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ah damn

sleek cypress
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i could be wrong on that

brittle atlas
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Currently you need to be online to login but don’t need a persistent connection

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I believe for full release an entirely offline mode is planned

icy moth
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alright cool thanks

buoyant lynx
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So the new glyphs got me thinking... Wouldn't it be nice to have a reroll set items glyph. That just functions to reroll a (duplicate) set item into another of that set. Needs to be sufficiently rare, but could help fill things out.

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It also makes duplicates worth saving. And since it is a new rolled item, you could over time slowly upgrade to better rolls.

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Now maybe that is too powerful. It could get a build in chance to reroll to same base item class from another set instead.

sleek cypress
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not the worst idea. could compromise a thematic element of uniques not having the ability to be crafted upon

buoyant lynx
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Technically, you are not really crafting the item, just recycling them into something else than gold.

sleek cypress
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Hehe sure. but you'd need to apply it to it somehow right? so would you give uniques forging potential too?

dense remnant
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A feature to do that would be neat probably, but I don't think it should be tied to the crafting system

buoyant lynx
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I wouldn't be opposed to have some ways to slightly mod unique items, to give them another layer of chase aside from having them and having good rolls

dense remnant
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cus like you say, you arent really crafting it, you're recycling it

buoyant lynx
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Sure, a vendor would be fine

dense remnant
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well not a vendor

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it would need to be limited a lot

buoyant lynx
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Is there a story reason why the forge can't do unique items that I missed?

dense remnant
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is there a story reason for the forge? :p

buoyant lynx
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Maybe empowered only

dense remnant
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empowered only doesnt mean much

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it doesnt take long to get to empowereds

sleek cypress
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not that i know of no, i didn't mean thematic in the sense of lore or anything like that. i mean that most game mechanics have some type of theme. for example, if you have a poison lich type character casting holy shit that's kind of a thematic violation

dense remnant
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on the unique forging thing, i think you're just overvaluing uniques

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theres a few very strong ones

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but most of your gear isnt uniques

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uniques arent that amazing outside of a few specific ones

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heck, with the crafting changes its now possible to aim for a chest thats better than wings for ehp

buoyant lynx
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Agreed, something I hope will change over time.

dense remnant
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that shouldnt change

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we have legendaries coming

buoyant lynx
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Set items in their current form are hardly worth it.

dense remnant
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unqiues/set items should be about doing interesting neat things, or enabling certain builds

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they shouldnt just be stat sticks

buoyant lynx
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Exactly. There are a couple, some bis even, but most are just leveling options now

dense remnant
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the eclipse sword is a perfect example

buoyant lynx
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So giving a bite more options to obtain shouldn't hurt

dense remnant
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its terrible outside of certain builds, in which case its the best weapon

buoyant lynx
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Yeah, love that kind of stuff

dense remnant
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forging on top of unqiues would just reduce what they can actually do with uniques

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wings as the main example, should every single build that moves 90%+ of the time use wings?

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if you start being able to upgrade unqiues, that becomes the case

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its already pretty close, but legendaries and 5th affix slot means if you min-max you dont have to use it

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and instead it can lean more into the other parts of the unique

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as soon as you introduce crafting onto uniques, you just reduce how interesting your uniques can be (or you have a progression system that's exclusively about uniques, which is bad)

buoyant lynx
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Agreed moddable spots in uniques would probably take them too far

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But being able to recycle set item duplicates into potentially missing pieces or better rolled ones wouldn't really come with any of the downsides mentioned

dense remnant
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i never said it would

buoyant lynx
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It just gives you a select more of the same, if you are going after that

knotty hinge
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@dense remnant I think a lot of us are expecting unique crafting based on this comment from Mike:
https://youtu.be/-mAbhmrgIZQ?t=5276

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buoyant lynx
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But I'm really looking forward to the legendaries

knotty hinge
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might need to rewind it a few seconds for context

dense remnant
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it started with tempest strike

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what time is it meant to be at?

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okay found it

knotty hinge
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1:27:53 "These boots, for example , will be probably really awesome next patch"

dense remnant
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i have no idea how you extrapolate unique crafting from that ngl

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that just sounds like balancing uniques

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lol

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heavily implying unqiues/set items wont have forging potential

knotty hinge
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Perhaps I should've phrased it as utilized in the legendary item process.

dense remnant
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I could imagine something with the eternity cache or something, that lets you change the base item the unique is on, or something like that

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yeah, using uniques/set items for legenadry items is definitely not what i personally would call unique crafting

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cus you're not doing stuff to the unique, you're just using the unique for another item

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which adds like, soooooo much more room for making it difficult/time consuming etc...

sleek cypress
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eternity cache.. you slam together an exalted, a set, and a unique.... PogSpin

balmy current
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But I'm not

sleek cypress
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wtf?

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lama has insider info?

balmy current
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Llama knows eeeeeeeeeeeeeverything

dense remnant
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Like with darkstride as the example, if you could change that base to solarum greaves, its a pretty asweome item already

balmy current
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Mostly.

dense remnant
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llama does testing stuff

sleek cypress
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WTF

dense remnant
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thats how he has answers to a lot of things

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cus hes asked the devs or brought it up to them lmao

sleek cypress
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blasphemy

balmy current
sleek cypress
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idk man, when i think of creatures that "know stuff" lamas aren't the first that come to mind

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thats just me

dense remnant
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fair

balmy current
sleek cypress
frosty mirage
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Llama is a bit of an encyclopedia when it comes to LE

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Ask him how 2h BD works

balmy current
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F###ing awesome! aweful!

finite mesa
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Update is the 10th right?

balmy current
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Yup

finite mesa
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Hype

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I require an LE injection

sleek cypress
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question for yall

What are your guys thoughts on throne of ambition? On it's surface, i think it's really good. However, in practice it seems quite lackluster. Almost comparable to why Ucenui's sphere is lackluster.

You can barely amass stacks in monos due to the relative infrequency of encountering bosses/rares. Monitoring my stacks, I feel i barely get to more than 3-4 stacks (i kill most rares in 4 secs or so)...

Then in bosses, where you'd expect it to be most useful, it ends up having the problem of the adaptive damage reduction mechanic. high damage Burst is a lot more effective than sustained, so i find for bosses it's better to do huge burst for 1-2s, run around for 5s, then do another.

Amassing 20 stacks w throne of ambition almost counters itself due to the adaptive damage reduction bosses gain.

Anyone else make this observation? What are ur thoughts?

Disclaimer: i dont fully understand the boss damage reduction mechanic

dense remnant
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great for arena

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less so for mono

sleek cypress
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So i'd rather have like... 2 really good rolled health idols giving me 50hp + 8% hp

dense remnant
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depends on your build as well

fierce kraken
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My opinion on throne, it is good when you need it. If you kill things fast then they are dead, if you kill it slow then you get inc DMG and armor.

icy moth
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now that I know more about the single player side of things id like to ask about the "meta" specifically how diverse is the game when it comes to end game builds, are all or most classes viable or only a few?

brittle atlas
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Every mastery has at least one really good build, but generally several. For the overwhelming majority of content you can kind of just do whatever though

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The baseline content isn’t hard enough to require optimization at all really

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Beyond that, I think you can make almost anything like 300 corruption viable with the right setup or gear. 300 corruption would be like... the benchmark for a solid endgame build imo

icy moth
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Alright thanks that sounds good, I find difficulty can be a bad thing at times. I'm glad to hear every mastery has at least one build

icy moth
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oh yeah another thing how long does it take to reach max level (i assume 100?)

frosty mirage
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You can get 1-75 fairly quickly, it begins to slow down after that. I’ve yet to try and grind a single character from 1-100 without switching to an alt but I’d say roughly… 20 hours? Another player will probably have better insight to the amount of time

icy moth
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Cool thanks

brave ibex
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Took me about 35 hours for 1-100 on a recent char, just playing casually + hardcore so could probably be way faster

regal osprey
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spriggan's healing aura also heals itself right?

balmy current
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Yes

soft prairie
vestal heart
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Multiplayer when plz someone tell me

knotty hinge
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We don't know.

balmy current
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When it's done

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Every time someone asks, they move the date back a day

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It's currently slated for 3125.

soft prairie
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I'll be in my cryogenic tank until then. I'll go in after the next update comes.

regal osprey
# balmy current Yes

So if I take the node that increases healing to minions, it will increase healing to itself?

balmy current
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Should do

regal osprey
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That must make spriggan the tankiest

sharp grotto
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same thing as a 10k hp guy getting wrecked, and then the 3k hp guy not even feeling it

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Overspecialisation makes it incredible for that one specific thing it decided to get real good at, but then fucking absolute garbage at the rest
eHP is interesting to juggle in LE, and while stacking health and healing is cool & all (and actually fun to see health ping ponging), not as cool if your shit gets shit on by a big fuckoff slap

That said, a spriggan can get revived, and i never actually used that minion (lol ecks dee), but on the eHP logic, if all it does is HP and heals, I gotta wonder if the "tankiest" statement is even true (+ what's the base health for that minion?)

brittle atlas
rugged grotto
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I have an rtx 3060 ti and the game does not exceed 38 fps

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because it may be the graph does not reach 40% and the cpu hopefully 45%

cedar light
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Does anybody know how exactly Forged Weapons scale? I know they have the basic minion scaling, but I also know they apparently benefit from affixes on weapons? Just not sure exactly how. Like, if I have the passive skill that lets my minions cause bleeding, will they benefit from increased damage over time on my weapon, or must it be minion damage over time? I'm not sure how they work exactly...

tranquil kindle
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if I have the passive skill that lets my minions cause bleeding, will they benefit from increased damage over time on my weaponYes

All the stats on your equipped weapons (except for some unique-specific stats) apply to the forged weapons as if they were minion stats.

cedar light
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That's good to know, thank you. I was trying to test it out but it's not like I can stop them from attacking, so seeing their bleed damage is not easy 😛

tranquil kindle
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it's not like I can stop them from attackingYou can command them using the A key by default, like any other minion.

cedar light
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...

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I didn't know that was a thing

restive cradle
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any way to refresh the UI from the tool filter

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like im setting it to show all and nothing is showing

fierce kraken
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Try pressing z or x.

restive cradle
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zzzzzzzzzzzzz

fierce kraken
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Make sure you are saving the show rule before you check

restive cradle
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u r right

abstract aspen
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any estimate when new patch comes out?

timber agate
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https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/eternal-legends-update-patch-0-8-4-coming-december-10th/45500

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Eternal Legends Update (Patch 0.8.4) - Coming December 10th

Eternal Legends Saving Eterra is going to take more than time, it will require becoming something else entirely: Legendary. Last Epoch is proud to announce that with Patch 0.8.4 comes the launch of our first endgame Dungeon and the rise of Legendary tiered items. See you in Eterra on December 10th for the Eternal Legends Update. Previously re...

acoustic thicket
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hi all, how does corruption work? game guide states while progressing in a center of a timeline i will find shades? I completed the first timeline web and echo quests but havent seen any. now at the lvl 66 web but still dont see any. Is it random or do I have to do anything to activate the shades?

static glacier
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the first monos usually have shades so wide out that you killed the boss before seeing them

balmy current
static glacier
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corruption is basicly a very lategame stuff you will farm in empowered monos

dim canopy
# acoustic thicket hi all, how does corruption work? game guide states while progressing in a cente...

The Shade of Orobyss is a boss that you can encounter in the echo web. The echos that contain this encounter have a distinctive look and activating that echo will bring you to that boss encounter and only that boss encounter (the echo will contain nothing but a small arena where you fight the Shade of Orobyss). Once you have defeated the Shade of Orobyss, the echo web that you are currently in will reset and that timeline will start with a new echo web, from the center. The only things that will carry over to the new echo web are timeline stability (that's the progress towards the quest echos) and corruption. The reward from the Shade of Orobyss is corruption (as well as a few exclusive uniques that he drops). Echos containing the Shade of Orobyss become more likely to find the further you venture from the center and at some distance, all echos contain this encounter, making it inevitable.
Have you been farming echos near the center of the web?

balmy current
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It's a specific monolith zone that looks like a monolith.

acoustic thicket
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I notice now that the stability bar has reset itself, this is the fall of the outcasts which I’ve already completed, yes I sort of did go for a circular pattern around the center.

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If I understand you correctly then the echo which contains shades should already look distinct at the selection screen?

static glacier
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yes they look like a pillar

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and on the first non empowered timeline it doesnt spawn that easy

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go on in the next timeline - you will find your shade 😉

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stability resets after you kill the mono boss btw

dim canopy
# acoustic thicket I notice now that the stability bar has reset itself, this is the fall of the ou...

When you do the last of the three quest echos in the timeline, stability will be subtracted equal to the stability requirement of that echo. In your case, you had 252 stability and the last Fall of the Outcasts echo removed 250 of that stability leaving you with 2. This way you can repeat the timeline to reroll your blessing, though you normally want to progress to empowered timelines before doing that, because empowered timelines give a stronger version of the same blessings.

acoustic thicket
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thanks, so there is no real insentive in re-farming a timeline which is already completed apart from choosing a new blessing, and some xp? game guide mentions completing the most difficult timelines will unlock empowered ones, so meaning the final "normal" timeline?

acoustic thicket
static glacier
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in empowered is where the whole corruption / shade system really kicks in

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on normal monos i usually do 1 shade kill to speed up the stability gain on the later ones but thats it - i dont "rerun" them or anything

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if your char cant handle the content anymore or really needs a specific blessing or boss item ofc you can farm normal monos

acoustic thicket
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gotcha, thanks for the info guys was helpful.

dim canopy
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@acoustic thicket Btw, echos further from the center also give more stability improve item drops, so most of the time, it's a good idea to farm echos as far from the center as you can.

harsh rampart
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do bees count as minions?

mighty frost
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do pyromancer skeleton mages cast necrotic mortar as well?

mighty frost
static glacier
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they are minions but no companions 😉

static glacier
mighty frost
static glacier
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if the wording on the node itself is right it should work

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never heared of anyone using it ... 6 seconds CD meh

mighty frost
harsh rampart
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making a beeast master build rn

timber agate
queen maple
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I’ve been doing the monolith and for some reason the game chooses which island to unlock. I’ve only had the choice 1 time and most of the time I can only choose blessings. Is this a glitch or what?

random dock
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some Monos only have 1 unlock for the island some gives you a choice

queen maple
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I should have mentioned I knew that sorry. I just did the ending of the storm and I’m pretty sure it has 2 choices. I wanted the reign of dragons but it gave me fall of the empire. The choice never popped up except the choose a blessing tab.

fierce kraken
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You made the choice earlier when you fought liathi

random dock
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If you fight her it unlocks reign of dragons

letting her go unlocks fall of the empire

fierce kraken
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Yeah, the dialogue is weird bc it doesn't show both options at once.

queen maple
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Thats kinda weird ok

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So is there anything I should look out for to unlock the reign of dragons from the fall of the empire?

fierce kraken
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Note you get something similar for blood frost and death.

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No, that only has one path forward.

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Or you can rerun the Lagon timeline.

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Might be slightly faster since it's a lower level.

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So lower stability requirements.

queen maple
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Ok nice. Thank you. I’m lvl 71 so Im fine doing higher levels. Gives me a chance to farm for uniques I might need in the future.

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Plus lagon tortured me when I first started the game so I dont like him🤣

fierce kraken
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Yeah, the fall of the empire has a really good unique.

strange blaze
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how do attack and cast speed affect channeled skills?

fierce kraken
fierce kraken
queen maple
strange blaze
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are they all fixed except ones that specifically say they scale with attack/cast speed?

fierce kraken
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I know flurry and warpath scale. I think most are fixed rates.

strange blaze
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do you know if channeled nova or fireball are fixed?

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i'm trying to figure out if there is much benefit to using arcane ascendancy with them

fierce kraken
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those are fixed since they say how many per sec.

strange blaze
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that makes sense. thanks!

fierce kraken
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If you are spec into the channeling, just try it. 50% is noticable.

brittle atlas
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I think all spells are fixed and all attacks scale?

polar bough
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is there another super fast melee attack skill like Rogue's Flurry?

brittle atlas
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I don’t think there’s anything quite as fast

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Beast Master can get pretty fast with aspect of the shark stuff

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Warpath can get fast

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Rive

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Shatter Strike on spellblade

thick shuttle
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Hello! Just got the game, and I'm a refugee from Path of Exile.

I previously like to play summoners with a horde of disposable minions (kinda like the "Death By A Thousand Cuts" trope).

Any recommendations on how I can achieve that in Last Epoch? Also, any good beginner resources?

brittle atlas
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Buildwise, the forums have a ton of stuff. Lots of YouTube content as well

thick shuttle
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Thanks, adding to bookmarks

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I assume that the barrier to high-level play in Last Epoch is not as high as PoE? I.E. you don't have to nolife 8 hours daily for two months to experience all content?

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Because that's what turned me off PoE. I have work and other responsibilities, I don't have time for all that.

brittle atlas
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Definitely, if you’re focused and knowledgeable you can do a lot in relatively little time and the learning curve to get to that point is far less steep

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There’s certainly room to no life if you’ve got certain goals, but the baseline experience is super accessible

thick shuttle
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Ah, no , that's ok.

Basically (if you're familiar with PoE), I want to be able to eventually reliably progress to the point where I can play around with gear equivalent in rarity to PoE's Headhunter/Mageblood without having to neglect life commitments.

brittle atlas
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The equivalent items in LE definitely require some luck or focused farming to acquire, but I would say are still quite a bit more accessible than HH or Mageblood

thick shuttle
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I feel PoE is tuned for nolife streamers, instead of real people with real lives and real jobs.

You see guys like Empyrean go around in this ridiculous gear and think, "That's cool, I wanna try that out!", only to find that it's impossible for you unless you get 9 other people to nolife hardcore farm for you or go to illegal RMT sites to directly buy stuff.

brittle atlas
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Ravenous Void, for example, is the current chase-est unique and can drop from any level 100 monolith zone extremely rarely or can be target farmed from the level 100 Last Ruin timeline with a 3% drop rate from the final boss at 500 corruption. With an optimized/fast farming character and the gameplay knowledge you’re looking at probably... 50 hours of setup to get a fresh character setup to farm that. Then farming itself is probably 150 kills average at about 30-35 minutes per loop to kill

thick shuttle
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At least with Last Epoch (from what I can see), you can see insane gear on streamers and you still have a chance of farming enough to eventually copy their setup.

brittle atlas
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The other chase item, Omnis, has a very low drop chance from The Shade of Orobyss boss starting at 200 corruption, but it’s drop chance scales as you get higher corruption values and kill Shades further from the center of the timeline web (thing delving but you start in the middle of the map instead of the top)

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To me, I’d say the biggest difference is that you need very little in the way of optimized gear to see the baseline difficulty of all content

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But can continue to farm and optimize gear to push harder versions of that content

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Or if you want to work towards perfecting a character over a very long time

marsh maple
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Also dropping a good omnis is super rare

brittle atlas
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Yeah, Omnis has massive roll ranges

thick shuttle
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Thanks.

If you're familiar with the Arakaali Necromancer build in PoE (summons hordes of disposable time-limited minions),

What's the closest equivalent to Last Epoch?

marsh maple
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Uhhh

brittle atlas
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Beast Master and Necromancer are your only real summons options

marsh maple
thick shuttle
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Oooh, interesting.

brittle atlas
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That will probably be changed next patch right?

thick shuttle
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Gonna look this up.

marsh maple
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That's why I'm linking this too

brittle atlas
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Oh yeah forge guard is super tanky and strong too

thick shuttle
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I'm assuming that most builds aren't nerfed to the ground by new patches, correct? Unlike PoE?

marsh maple
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The forged minion playstyle is as close to a disposable minion style we have that isn't based on a bug

brittle atlas
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It really depends on the build

marsh maple
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Oh they get nerfed. It depends. That forge guard won't be nerfed

thick shuttle
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I.E. if I get a work project and have to stop playing for two months or so, when I get back on it's not as if I have to start from scratch?

marsh maple
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If you want more permanent minions there are more on the channel

brittle atlas
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The builds I play end up nerfed sadge for the most part, if you don’t play something insanely broken it won’t get massive changes

marsh maple
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Yeah it should be easy for you to come back like that as long as you are not playing something obviously broken and respecializing is easy

brittle atlas
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Yeah, respeccing is effectively free

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The only thing you can’t change on a character is the mastery

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Which is like ascendancy

marsh maple
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Yeah the game isn't gonna mess you up in terms of progression

timber agate
marsh maple
# timber agate what are the outlier builds in current patch? VK and BD builds?

https://youtu.be/AgwKhnUdWbU actually made a video on this topic

YouTube
Epoch Builds
Top 5 Builds Getting Nerfed In Patch 8.4 (Probably) Last Epoch Builds

Top 5 Builds Getting Nerfed In Patch 8.4 (Probably) Last Epoch Builds

PerryThePig's Devouring Orb Crit :
https://youtu.be/yhip3Zn8f6k

Perry's Twitch Stream :
https://www.twitch.tv/perrythepig

Arborus's Poison AND Bleed Flurry Blade Dancer :
https://youtu.be/ilQAhu4t21A

Flame Burst Warpath Paladin :
https://youtu.be/hjbAJnTuRUw

Turbo Smi...

▶ Play video
thick shuttle
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I picked up the game like 8 months ago, tried out a summoner build and had fun, but responsibilities + job hunting due to COVID forced me to let go after a month, so it's been like 6 months of no gameplay.

I was following some summoner build and I was pleasantly surprised to see that it didn't lose effectiveness when I turned it back on yesterday, but I forgot where I was in the questline since it's been so long, so I was thinking of just creating a new character from scratch.

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I'll look into this warpath build, this looks interesting.

timber agate
marsh maple
timber agate
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speaking about necrotic wolf beastmaster, will the upcoming squirrel helm become a good addition for the build?

marsh maple
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It could be

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It depends on how the squirrels actually are

dense remnant
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Have to also take into account LE isn't out of beta yet, you should expect lots of big changes potentially happening to stuff your playing, and lots of new stuff appearing that might be more interesting to you

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The squirrel helm for example could be good for that build, or there could just be another build thats created because of it etc...

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Cant really compare LE atm to PoE in any real way in terms of things like changes from patch to patch, their both in entirely different parts of their games lives

dim canopy
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If a specialisation of a skill causes it to deal more (multiplicative) damage, will ailments caused by that skill also deal more damage?

static glacier
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@dim canopy Yes if it does not say "hits"

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Deals more damage will improve all aliments caused by that skill

mighty frost
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Can my minions proc "on kill" effects for me?

lyric oyster
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If my gear gives me +x lightning damage and my skills don't have the lightning tag, does the lightning damage do anything?

brittle atlas
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Added damage applies to anything of the correct type (melee, spell, throwing)

lyric oyster
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Oh, that's really handy to know. Thanks!

brittle atlas
eternal acorn
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How do we get to the point where we can spend passive points in a secondary "mastery"? i.e. VK is my Mastery but builds have points in the Paladin tree but it wont let me spend anything there

brittle atlas
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For example, using Cinder Strike and having sources of added cold damage means that increased cold damage will scale that cold damage

brittle atlas
eternal acorn
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Ah understood, thanks!

brittle atlas
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Though only your mastery tree will let you allocate passives beyond the 5th (I think?) row

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Or column now I guess

frosty mirage
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That’s correct Arborus

random dock
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Yes buying from the website will provide you with a Steam key

glad hill
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oh thanks, i just realized i might be posting in the wrong section

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so i deleted, but thank you for the answer!

glad hill
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yay got the game now

vital urchin
cloud kindle
harsh rampart
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how do I set up auto cast for a skill?

lucid compass
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Is there a way to display the current FPS?

knotty hinge
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f11

strange blaze
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do "enemies take increased damage" effects stack additively with sources of increased damage on the player's side?

fierce kraken
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dmg taken is multiplicative with dmg dealt

acoustic thicket
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yo broskies and sisterkies is lastepoctools a viable website to find builds onfor a new player as my self? id though id give last epoc another chance since the last time i played was quite a while ago 😛

elder sundial
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Guys I'm so hyped about the multiplayer. How long do you think it will last now ? 🙂

balmy current
frosty mirage
finite ivy
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Any way to keep the chat always open?

thick shuttle
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Where is the Deep Harbor chieftain? I've been scouring Deep Harbor for the past hour and couldn't find the guy.

dark fox
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neighbouring zone

balmy current
stark ore
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Can anyone tell me if Plague Burst works with minion hits?

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That's the Spirit Plague skill that gives a chance to spread it on hitting the afflicted enemy

brittle atlas
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It should work with minion hits, yeah

stark ore
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Thanks Arborus 🙂

queen maple
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What’s the difference between increased throwing damage and throwing phys damage? Im about to lose out on 21% throwing damage because I don’t have shards and was wondering if throwing phys would make up for that, thanks.

frosty mirage
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It's essentially a more specific affix which means it should roll higher ranges. It should affect Shurikens, Shadow Dagger, and base Acid Flask

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As well as other throwing skills like sentinel's group and axe throws as long as they have the physical tag

queen maple
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Ok I think I understand. I was just worried that they scale differently based on what I took in the skill tree but I’m not good at understanding game numbers. Thanks for the help

frosty mirage
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The scalings tags can typically tell you the affixes you want to target when crafting. They're a great starting point

queen maple
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I completely negleted the fact that it shows dps too when you switch gears. My shurikens went from 2883 dps to 2930 after switching 3 pieces so I think thats a good progress.

trim heath
frosty mirage
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That is true, thanks for the clarification!

thick shuttle
wraith cave
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hey could someone confirm something for me? when salvaging an item for affixes, does the amount of affixes you get in return depend on what tier the affix was on the item? I seem to remember hearing you get anywhere between 1-5 shards back regardless of tier but maybe I'm mistaken. Maybe it scales with affix tier. May not remember to check back on here as well, if you could @ me i would love to see! thank you

amber notch
balmy current
thick shuttle
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Do bonuses to Skeleton/Skeletal Mage Damage (i.e. "Increased Skeletal Mage Damage" on chest armor) increase the damage dealt by an Abomination?

balmy current
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Probably not since the Abomination isn't a Skelle.

frosty mirage
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With the storm sprites from tempest maw, do they trigger when the totem is hit or just if the enemy is nearby? “Defend” is a bit ambiguous. I have an idea for a BM build that I think could potentially be fun

balmy current
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They're when you summon the totem

frosty mirage
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Apologies, I was misleading with the word trigger, by trigger I meant attack an enemy. I am also assuming they are one charge, so one attack and they expire, correct?

dim canopy
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how do things that modify your next or every n-th attack/spell/etc. interact with channelled attacks/spells/etc? Do they simply not work? To they count the whole channel as one attack/spell/etc.? Do they work on a per second basis? Because there are effects that specify your next non-channelling attack while other effects only mention your next attack.

frosty mirage
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I might be wrong as I’ve yet to do a channeling but based on memory from previous answers, I believe the initial hit counts as the attack and the subsequent ticks fall under that single attack category for channeled abilities

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So one channel is one attack and only the initial hit counts as the attack, I do not think it snapshots either but I could be wrong

dense remnant
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yep thats how it works in the situations ive encountered

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For 'every x' it might be different though

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I know for eternal eclipse with warpath, the 'every 2 seconds' causes it to apply to one of the hits from warpath every 2 seconds

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but for things that are 'next x' it's just the entire skill

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(and iirc I tested out echo'd warpaths with eternal eclipse, and they didnt echo as if they had the damage bonus from eternal eclipse at any point, so i assume that isnt some cheesy thing you can do)

brittle atlas
knotty river
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Hello, (almost) finishmy 1st unit (autobomber) and to be sure, the "end game" is farmin echoes and arena ? second question : what the best approach too rerol after that ? starting from scrath on story moode again or is there an other way ? thank you

dark fox
knotty river
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thanks, next patch ETA (approximativly ?) , to oknow if i build a new unit ooor wait

dense root
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december 10

lyric oyster
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Do we have any details for the alt leveling thing for next patch?

trim heath
lyric oyster
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Darn. Thanks though!

trim heath
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I do worry slightly that people read that and think that this is a complete leveling replacement system. It's not that.

lyric oyster
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That is what I thought it would be honestly. Kinda like Adventure Mode in D3 lets you level without doing the story

dense remnant
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ive been expecting it to be like delve in poe to some degree, in how it fits into the levelling process (not the actual mechanics of delve)

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i.e. you can do the dungeon a few times over the course of the story (and probably only from a certain point onwards)

lyric oyster
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I don't mind leveling through the story in Last Epoch. It doesn't feel like a slog like Path's story does and I can pop into monoliths as soon as I think I can handle it

dense remnant
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Id guess theres just a lot of different thoughts of how dungeons fit into stuff, because we dont really know how they work at all 😄

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so its hard to think of how it fits into the game

balmy current
frosty mirage
balmy current
frosty mirage
brittle atlas
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Yeah, you only get 4

frosty mirage
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Rip to that idea then

brittle atlas
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I used them for a bit on a spriggan form Druid a while back

frosty mirage
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Would have been fun, since they only last 6 seconds

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With a 15 sec CD

balmy current
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Yeah, that's a bit disappointing, though you can move them with A.

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TBF, the lightning effect on Tempest Maw is awesome & more than compensates for that...

dull rose
#

Will there be a "FULL WIPE" of all characters, progress, stash tabs, etc when LE comes out of Early Access? Will there be a permanent league similar to PoE's "standard" and then fresh start leagues every several months as well?

dense remnant
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Current characters are non-mp characters, so they wont be wiped, they just wont be mp characters

balmy current
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It'll likely be similar to PoE in that regard.

dull rose
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Okay, so all gear found now though can be equipped by characters created after MP launch?

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I would think the character itself has less value than the stash tabs full of gear.

balmy current
dull rose
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ahh, makes more sense... so ALL online characters will be fresh start once mp is available? And zero wipes after that?

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and you gotta buy new stash tabs and everythign?

marsh maple
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well its not a wipe

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you can still play your offline char's

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they just won't be online so its a soft wipe

dull rose
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right, but everyone in MP starts at 0

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0 gear, 0 progress, 0 unlocked tabs

balmy current
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yup

dull rose
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cool, glad they're doing that

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I assume offline will be modable to some degree as well if it's truly offline

frosty mirage
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It’s being considered, but it won’t be for a good while after 1.0 in terms of official mod support.

dull rose
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right, I don't mean dev mod tools. I just mean that if the game is playable 100% offline, those character files are stored locally and someone will build a trainer type app to edit builds and items. which is 100% fine for offline play

minor vigil
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do we know anything about stash tabs in cycles

balmy current
dull rose
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any changes to game files is modding, and i further elaborated on what I was talking about in a subsequent response.

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Grim Dawn's D2 mod is more of a total conversion if we want to make sure everything gets the right label 😉

stuck dove
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Does the increased crit chance from Rive's Adrenaline node apply only to hits from Rive? I don't see any effect on the "C" screen

rocky tangle
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Hello I have few questions regarding Lightning conversion Disintegrate

  1. Does spell crit chance work with Lightning Disintegrate?
  2. Does cast speed modifies Lightning Disintegrate in any way?
  3. What does damage over time modifiers do to Lightning Disintegrate as it does not deal DoT(I think so?)?
fierce kraken
stuck dove
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Yes, and the crit chance in the character sheet does not go up as a result of hitting with the first strike in rive

lone flume
rocky tangle
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Keeping the DoT tag means that it would scale off of DoT damage affixes right?

lone flume
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and INT of course

trim heath
stuck dove
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It just says "increased critical strike chance on hit", so it sounds like it should be global

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But it doesn't result in any change to the critical strike chances on the character sheet

frosty mirage
#

Also note that increased will not be the same as the +x% and is multiplied by the base critical chance value, so for simplicity sake, if you have that node maxed out with the full 4 stacks and you just have the base crit chance of 5% I believe that’s only 5*1.12 for 5.6% increased chance

trim heath
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7% increased is low enough that it might not be enough to register a display change.

Most sources of flat Crit currently are melee/bow/throwing so they aren't used in the displayed stat.

frosty mirage
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Ohhh that’s good info to know! I know for the character sheet a lot of it is purely global but didn’t know the info about the weapon slot flat crit

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And some stats do increase when skills activate, I just know ailment and crit are tricky

trim heath
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It gets used in the damage calculations, just not in that displayed stat in your character sheet

thick shuttle
#

Anyone playing with a controller here (specifically, the 8bitdo Pro 2?)

How's your experience with it?

minor vigil
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i play on a ps4 controller it's pretty good

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missing a cpl features

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mainly involving menus

royal ibex
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I dont own the game yet, but i l have seen some videos and it seems when the char changes some equipment it didnt represent it on the char. Am i wrong or dont they have all different "graphics"?

minor quartz
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they are reflected but a lot of the older models are older so not everything looks like its image

royal ibex
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Do you now if they are going to overhaul the old models? In the video it seemed like both equipment parts (old and new) had the same "graphic"

minor quartz
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they are doing it over time

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they did some items, I think this patch is staffs and spears

royal ibex
#

Can the cosmetic points be obtained in game?

minor quartz
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no, but there currently isn't anything to spend them on

royal ibex
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Hmm ok. I will wait until it is on sale

frosty mirage
# royal ibex Do you now if they are going to overhaul the old models? In the video it seemed ...

This upcoming patch will have remodels for Mage, Acolyte, and Sentinel models. It will also contain some reworked areas as well. The devs are doing work to lift the older areas and models/assets to the same level and quality as the new content.

Weapon and armor models have been getting overhauls each patch that include either new items or reworked items as well as model updates. The most glaring issue where you will see this is the 3D models for a lot of older uniques in the game where they are just the base type of the weapon/armor being used. This is something they are also working on and I believe they stated they would prefer to get those models done before diving headfirst into fully into MTX

frosty mirage
# royal ibex Can the cosmetic points be obtained in game?

If buying via Steam you get the gladiator pack which does come with some MTX as part of the pack. You can also buy directly from LE site and get the steam code. If you want to do a higher pack but bought the game on Steam you can submit a support ticket to upgrade your pack. I believe there is a support article on how to do the latter. This might be incomplete information in regards to buying directly from the LE website and obtaining a steam code.

royal ibex
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Thank you for your answer. I dont know what i should think about these MTX in a full priced game

frosty mirage
# royal ibex Thank you for your answer. I dont know what i should think about these MTX in a ...

The box price is to help offset the fact that they are very much against “pay for convenience” micro transactions. All micro transactions will be strictly cosmetic. Other games that might be free-to-play heavily lean on convenience features to supplement revenue in which you might pay out roughly the same amount of money in the long run, you’re just offsetting the cost over a potentially longer period of time.

brittle atlas
cloud kindle
abstract pecan
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Not just server and maintenance. But more importantly ongoing development like arborus said. 30 bucks doesn’t go very far these days…

strange blaze
#

Has anyone played a build where the "bonus to all stats" mod was desirable?

dense remnant
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its useable for most builds, but its not really needed for any

#

the damage it will give you isn't build enabling, and its taking up a slot for something like chill etc...

lyric oyster
#

Is there an ingame way of seeing which monolith drops what kind of uniques?

brittle atlas
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I believe when you click the monolith pylon things it shows what the unique/set reward type nodes can be

#

It might only show up on the normal/empowered selection screen after you unlock empowered?

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I haven’t paid super close attention to if it shows up before then

lyric oyster
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Ah ok. I don't have empowered yet. The unique/set reward nodes just stated Unique/set items with the corresponding symbol to the item type that I get as a reward

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Was just hoping there was a way to see what types of items the monolith would drop without having to have a node ready to go or resorting to Google

brittle atlas
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Yeah I think it shows up at the bottom of the normal/empowered selection screen on each timeline

lyric oyster
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It's just got enemy/player modifiers for me right now

brittle atlas
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this screen

lyric oyster
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Ah...I don't have that screen. Must be because I don't have empowered yet

brittle atlas
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yeah, just hopped to a different character that doesn't have empowered unlocked yet and it doesn't pop up

lyric oyster
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Welp, gotta get to empowered then. Thanks for the help!

brittle atlas
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if you want a quick reference for it

random dock
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thats an oopsie by the devs of it not showing up in normal timelines btw

lusty kraken
#

Hello,
I am not a perfect english speaker and I don't understand this part of the passive
Can someone help me please ?

brittle atlas
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ignite chance becomes slow chance instead

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for smite

random dock
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for this node it turns into Slowed enemies

Screenshot_-_12_1_2021__9_08_54_AM.png
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this one turns into slow chance

Screenshot_-_12_1_2021__9_09_03_AM.png
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cause the first part of the node you are talking about in the red box says all sources 🙂

lusty kraken
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ah ok

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thanks

lilac shale
#

is there a roadmap somewhere?

eager magnet
#

!forecast

ripe brookBOT
olive tinsel
rugged chasm
#

"increased bleed duration" doesnt reduce the bleed damage right ? It deal the same damage each second but longer ?

olive tinsel
rugged chasm
#

Ok thxs again !

olive tinsel
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So both bleed effect and bleed duration are more multipliers for bleed

rugged chasm
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Oh ok its count as a "more" multiplier

#

Bleed effect increase damage and duration ?

olive tinsel
#

"counts" sounds wrong in that sense.

I would say: It is "effectively" a more multiplier 😛

But that is just lingual acrobatis 😛

olive tinsel
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Usually "increased effect" does give an ailment more dmg/more potent effect

#

In case of bleed, there is nothing to increase, other then the damage

rugged chasm
#

Like chance to freeze for a cold damage over time ?

olive tinsel
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Not sure what you mean

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Freeze does not do any damage.

But to give you an example of some other ailments, where "increased effect" does not give extra dmg but other effects:

  1. Shock will shred more lightning resistance and increases the stun chance against that enemy even more
  2. Frostbite will do more damage and the freeze avoidance it reduces, gets increased as well
rugged chasm
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I was thinking about freeze avoidance ! Couldnt remenber the name

olive tinsel
fresh crown
#

How do I report someone trying to scam thats in the discord?

frosty mirage
trim heath
fresh crown
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Thank you! Ill try to get to it when i get on

lost acorn
#

I'm in the monolith reward area after a successful complete (uniq item reward) but I can't pick up anything, like all items were hidden by a loot filter but they should not be. Any way to get my reward? This is the first time I can't pick up items.

brave ibex
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Probably press Z

lost acorn
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That's it, thanks 😄
Good to know there's such a thing

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not optimal for qwertz keyboards, I better move that to Y

fringe birch
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settings -> gameplay -> change input keys -> toggle tooltips for items on ground -> remove
it's pretty useless feature now that we have loot filter, should not have keybind by default imo

lost acorn
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I might use it if gold was hidden too, for arena zones where I don't move much and gold clutters the screen. The way it is now you're probably right.

jovial leaf
#

How many corruption needed for Orobyss may drop Omnis? 200+?

brittle atlas
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200

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though the chance increases with corruption and distance from center

fiery jungle
#

Does anyone know how to resolve the bug where multiple stash tab categories combine and multiple are active? I can't delete them either because they cannot be directly selected

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balmy current
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you'll need to edit the stash file

fiery jungle
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Is that allowed/is there a tutorial?

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Thanks for the help btw @balmy current

balmy current
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There's a thread about it on the forums in the bug section somewhere

fiery jungle
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Thanks

manic narwhal
#

What are sealed affixes? Are they like fractured item affixes in PoE? I.e. they can't be modified by any form of crafting.

dense remnant
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id recommend reading through that

manic narwhal
#

OK, think I've got it now. Thanks.

topaz relic
#

ay a few questions;

with sacrifice casted by skeleton mages - can it scale via the tags (phys etc...) or does it turn into minion damage since its casted via your skellies

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and changing the tree for it doesnt change anything if its not casted by you right?

brittle atlas
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It's still a physical spell when they cast it, so it would scale with things like minion physical damage and minion spell damage. Minion skills don't use your skills (and therefore your specialization tree)

topaz relic
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oh wait 1 other thing

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sacrifice doesnt have a cooldown so this wont affect the speed its casted by skellies right

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brittle atlas
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correct

topaz relic
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sweet

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cheers man

strange blaze
#

Do skill tooltips for minion health include bonuses for minion health passives/equipment?

fierce kraken
strange blaze
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No, I mean on the detailed tooltip when you press Alt on a minion skill and it says "x health per point of attribute, y health per level"

fierce kraken
#

that just showing base hp

#

so no

rain forum
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is there any guess to when the next character wipe will be?

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if I started playing again now

dense root
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i don’t believe there are plans to wipe characters

random dock
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there is no character wipes

dense root
#

not even sure how that would work since they’re stored locally at the moment

rain forum
#

oh damn what happened to my char then

random dock
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all the characters you have right now will stay offline once coop/multiplayer hits

dense root
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characters you create now will not be able to participate in multiplayer whenever that launches though

dense remnant
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saves are stored locally is what happened to your char

dense root
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did you switch computers or format your disk or something

random dock
#

^

rain forum
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yup

random dock
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unless you are using steam

rain forum
#

ok maybe Ill check on my old HD

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when is multiplayer coming?

dense remnant
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when its ready

rain forum
#

like a few months or like a year

random dock
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patch 0.9

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= when its ready

rain forum
#

of course, but surely you have a ballpark guess

dense remnant
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not really

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they're not rushing it, cus you just have to look at releases this year etc... and see that its really not worth them being like 'it'll be out by this point'

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multiplayer is big important, it'll be here when it's ready, testing starts q1 next year, so maybe we get 0.9 next year

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but who knows

#

theres 4 patches a year as well, so its better to look at it in terms of that. Will multiplayer be ready in 4 patches time? very hard to say

rain forum
#

context like that was all I wanted, thank you

dense remnant
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testing in q1, probably means no multiplayer in first 2 patches, so you have the last 2 patches of 2022 for it to come

rain forum
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appreciate it

dense remnant
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and anything could happen to slow that down

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or it could go really well, everything is working fine, and we get multipalyer in 9 months~

rain forum
#

how are liches right now? I heard they got nerfed. I just really like the aura of decay life drain build that I had

brittle atlas
#

crit lich is still decent too

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ailment lich builds are in a bit of a rough spot at the moment

rain forum
#

So aura of decay is not great right now?

brittle atlas
#

aura of decay as a damage skill has been quite weak for a while now. Because scaling its damage also scales the damage it inflicts on you, scaling it to any reasonable level means you will often kill yourself

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it's a solid minion support skill for poison minion builds, though

rain forum
#

could you link a poison minion build that I could look at?

fiery heron
#

Where do I see when a new patch hits?

balmy current
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10th December.

iron thistle
#

It says in the post about the patch in the news channel.

marsh maple
# rain forum could you link a poison minion build that I could look at?

when he was referring to the poison aura of decay minion support, he mainly means this build https://youtu.be/1a91dGe7WJ0

YouTube
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Necromancer Jade Dust Rogue + DK , Best Necro Build For Fun Times, ...

Last Epoch Patch 8.3 Build Guide, Jade Dust Rogue + DK Necromancer, Best Necro Build For Fun Times

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Timestamps :
00:00 Intro
05:34 DPS Showcase
06:25 Summon Skeleton
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11:48 Dread Shade
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16:02 Passiv...

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rain forum
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cool, thanks

marsh maple
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there are some other builds that utilize it, but I've found that one to benefit from AoD the most

rain forum
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what changed about liches in the last year?

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that mde them less powerful?

marsh maple
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A large amount of blanket nerfs

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Especially towards poison lich and crit lich

balmy current
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And Hollow Lich

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Though that affected Necro more (as it was converting minion leech when it shouldn't have).

glad hill
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Spymaster Zerrick on Masochist. Is he supposed to be this tough? 😵‍💫

balmy current
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Yes

glad hill
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fml

balmy current
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It's called Masochist for a reason

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And now they aren't going to balance it

dense remnant
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stuff on masochist is supposed to basically just kill you :p

glad hill
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okay got him, just a lot of kiting

lament nest
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Hello guys, Which ailments are elemental DoT? Is it only ignite?

random dock
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Frostbite, Electrify and Spreading Flames

zenith field
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HI all, first time posting in here . I am playing a necromancer. I am using skeleton archers and mages. I have 5 mages and at one point had 10 archers.. now for some reason I can only get 9 archers.. and watching some videos I can see that you can get 11.. I am missing something on why I lost 1 and also how to get to 11 .. hope that makes sense

marsh maple
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you can also get 2 from Hollow Fingers

zenith field
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@marsh maple I have all 3 in the skill itself and I believe 2 more in the passive tree but dont see any more

marsh maple
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so you start out at 3, get one from your mastery, get 2 from the passive tree. thats 6

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you get 3 from the skill tree

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2 from hollow fingers and 1 from the chest

random dock
marsh maple
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well the beauty of that affix is until much later on you only need +1

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you dont need t5 until your min maxingf

random dock
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yup yup its a nice to have

marsh maple
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next patch getting 13 is gonna be easy thanks to being able to make legendary hollow rings

zenith field
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@marsh maple ok i think I figured out how I lost 1.. I changed armor and the one I had on had +1 to max skeletons and my current one has +1 to summon skeleton (the skill itself)

marsh maple
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yeah there you go

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chest is insane on a summon skellie build

zenith field
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shoot I put the wrong mod on ... oh well still learning

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@marsh maple thanks for the help

marsh maple
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any time

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what skellie setup are you going for

zenith field
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ice skelys.. reach of the grave weapon

marsh maple
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poggies

zenith field
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im lvl 94 so doing well

marsh maple
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I need to revamp that next patch

zenith field
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just dont know alot of the game yet

marsh maple
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nah thats understandable

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thats a build I need to work on.

zenith field
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I have a lvl 90 something werebear guy too thats pretty strong

marsh maple
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Its gonna be way stronger soon POG

zenith field
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Ive been using death rattle amulet for my ice build but was reading in higher levels the frozen eyes one might be better

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less dps but slows things alot more

polar bough
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is Rogue the class to go to for poison build?

lavish dew
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Rogue, acolyte(lich) and Primalist(beastmaster serpent strike) are probably the main poison builds

polar bough
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ty

lavish dew
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Anyone know if the 3x decoys also makes 3x sonic wave ?

frosty mirage
marsh maple
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@polar bough https://youtu.be/ilQAhu4t21A one of the premiere poison builds currently

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poison flurry is nuts and cheap, play it before it gets nerfed

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yeah it does make 3 sonic wave btw

lavish dew
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for bosses should be ez to stack all 3

fierce kraken
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I heard the exposion on that dont shotgun, are you sure about sonicwaves?

lavish dew
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Hmm yea not sure on that then...

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Detonating arrow's consume mana node is not considered as mana cost for ethereal arrows right. So it would still be a 0 mana cost skill if you take mana arrow but still consume mana and increase dmg anyway right ?

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Theorycrafting ignite detonating arrow is making me question the entire game

iron thistle
frosty mirage
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You can ask in dev channel or wait until next Friday for the ailment counter to be released with 0.8.4, my initial reaction is that if an enemy is inflicted by multiple sonic waves, it should apply each sonic wave’s ailments to the enemy

iron thistle
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It seems to work that way from my testing, but it was admittedly not the most rigorous experiment. Had nothing else to really do with Decoy after it taunted stuff, so might as well make 3.

lavish dew
frosty mirage
lavish dew
lucid compass
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Does completing echo of the world and then resetting the echo web cause the echos near the start to give less stability once you’re back at the center?

fierce kraken
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corruption increase stability and so does distance from the center

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if you reset your distance echoes will give less stability until you get to the same distance.

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If you are just trying to complete a timeline once, probably worth just waiting until you almost fill stability then complete shade of orobyss.

lucid compass
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So in other words, it’s worth doing if you’re trying to speed run to a specific timeline since it gives a massive boost to stability?

fierce kraken
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but if you are farming a specific timeline then going for high corrutpion makes sense in the long term

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but only for empowered since normal caps at 50 corruption

dense remnant
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theres a certain amount of completions of each timeline, where it becomes more efficient to have reset the timeline by killing shade everytime

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below that amount, you should never reset

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(in terms of stability gains)

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the maths not too complicated to do, you just need the numbers

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but its one of the fews ways to increase efficiency in mono progression, so idk if anyones actually shared it yet

lucid compass
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Can all uniques not restricted to bosses be gambled for?

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Looking for salt the wound and it says it has a target timeline to farm, was wondering if it’s exclusively dropped from there or if gambling would work.

balmy current
frosty mirage
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Nope

sick yacht
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How long did it take to get approved for CT for some of you guys? Just curious 😅😁

frosty mirage
lucid compass
# balmy current No uniques can be gambled for.

Damn, I didn’t realize that was a feature that they removed. Kind of bummed that I can’t invest heavy amounts of gold into chase items but the millions I used to juice into Orian’s eye was a very unfun experience as well.

balmy current
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They want the best source of high end items to be mobs, not a vendor.

eager magnet
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Which should be in the form of the secret Llama level

neon geyser
brave ibex
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What is the current application process?

frosty mirage
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!support

ripe brookBOT
fierce kraken
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not sure if thats how they want to select CT still

frosty mirage
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Might be worth asking over in the ask dev channel on whether or not this is still the best practice or not

flint moon
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Haven't played in a longer time, returning player, please remind me again, for minion builds, a modifier on an item "#% increased fire damage" does not increase the fire damage for minions, it has to say "#% increased minion fire damage" or something like that?

In other words, only if a modifier says "minion", it has a direct effect on minions?

random dock
flint moon
balmy current
tropic falcon
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Is there any reason, particularly with the upcoming crafting changes, that you wouldn't want to hide all normal/magic items?

iron thistle
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I imagine they become relegated to early level items.

random dock
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^

iron thistle
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But that's a similar concept in most games with different item rarities. The lower tier ones just have no place in late game.

tropic falcon
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I just ask because, for example in PoE, normal items still have relevance because they're good for crafting

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Seems like in LE though, exalted are going to be the best to craft on

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Just double checking in case there's something I didn't know about

rapid gorge
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The item database says that if i want to target farm Exsanguinous, i should run through the Blood, Frost and Death timeline. Does this mean doing any echo within the timeline, or doing a specific timeline boss?

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random dock
rapid gorge
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ahhhh okay

rapid gorge
dense remnant
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yep

brittle atlas
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The same way people don’t immediately start with double influenced awakened stuff in PoE

tropic falcon
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What's the point of even having normal items then? Other than for the first few levels?

dense remnant
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theres a rune coming with the next patch that fills all unused affix slots with random ones

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other than that rune, no reason with next patch

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(as far as we know)

brittle atlas
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Like currently a item that is total t8 with two or three good affixes is a great base

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Because you can craft those up and generally end up with a reasonably solid item and not too rarely a T20 item

tropic falcon
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gotcha. but that still makes normal items worthless, no?

dense remnant
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yep

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but normal items shouldnt be interesting

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they're the lowest of the low

frosty mirage
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My first rule I make in all my loot filters

dense remnant
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being excited for rare items is more fun than commons

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i hide them from about lvl 3-5

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depending on boots and rings

tropic falcon
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so why have them at all? past like, maybe level 5, why are they even dropping?

dense remnant
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or i just make a rule for quicksilver rings over the top of hiding them

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the same reason card games have useless cards in packs

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if you follow the logic of not showing stuff that isnt useful, you have barely any loot showing, which makes any loot that does show less exciting

random dock
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^

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if its a base I really want I just make a rule for it

dense remnant
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i do agree that with 0.8.4 it will be maybe pointless for them, as the change to make crafting potential higher on higher rarity items double dips on commons being pointless, but heyho

tropic falcon
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just seems like a waste of system resources to generate/render items that literally nobody wants, as minor of an impact as it may have.

dense remnant
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they arent rendered

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people learnt from poe :p

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i think you're also overestimating how many commons drop

random dock
dense remnant
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even if you show them its very little

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oh they'll also be useful with the ascendance rune next patch

brittle atlas
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Yeah, commons are rather uncommon the higher you get in monoliths and especially corruption due to the rarity modifier

tropic falcon
dense remnant
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yeah

tropic falcon
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will that only work on normal items?

dense remnant
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no, it'll work on all non unique/set/legendary items

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(id assume it doesnt work on uniques)

brittle atlas
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Curious if it rerolls implicit range

tropic falcon
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haha, so normal items are still pointless then

dense remnant
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i mean objectively not pointless

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random affix rune, ascendance rune

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random affix rune, depending on drop rate, might make you want to pick up commons of the base type you want

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they'll have more use next patch than this patch thinking about it

tropic falcon
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how would you get runes from normal items?

dense remnant
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they also work to make the gambler less strong

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what do you mean?

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or rather, why do you think im talking about getting runes from items?

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im talking about using runes on items

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would recommend reading up on the crafting changes coming if you arent aware of what im talking about

tropic falcon
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okay, but why would you use them on normal items when you're better off looking for a high tier affix on a magic/rare?

timber agate
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use random affix rune on normal item with good implicit roll is what claire means

dense remnant
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link to crafting change post ^

tropic falcon
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oh, okay, I gotcha

dense remnant
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id recommend reading up on whats coming

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then you can have more informed views of stuff

dim canopy
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What happens when an enemy/player has negative armour due to armour shred?

timber agate
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they have increased damage taken

dim canopy
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is the formula equivalent to the reduced damage taken formula for positive armour? That is, can you achieve a maximum of 80% (I think it was) increased damage taken with armour shred?

static glacier
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its the same formula yep

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can take the armor graph from tunklab and think in the opposite

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5000 shred are

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maximum is 85% afaik but more than 30.000 shred is maybe a bit difficult 😄

terse otter
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Hi ppl, a quick question please 🙂 Would a Omnividence drop from these unique parts of the stolen lance timeline, even when im doing the normal lvl 62 timeline, not the empowered? Because Omnividence is a lvl 70 item ... Where would I farm for it, when I'm not ready for empowered timelines yet? Thanks 🙂

marsh maple
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No

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Omnividence is empowered orobyss 200+ corruption only

terse otter
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TIL, thanks :c

knotty hinge
terse otter
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yea, this one 🙂

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marsh maple
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Oh yeah that can drop anywhere 70+

terse otter
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so it wouldnt drop as a exclusive echo reward in the normal timeline?

marsh maple
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You could make it drop as an exclusive reward echo or just drop it normally

static glacier
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but not in a lvl 62 timeline afair

dense remnant
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also regardless of that, you get a lot more exclusive timeline echos in expowered monos

terse otter
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so best course of action is to just grind through and not try to targetfarm yet?

dense remnant
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yeah

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theres no reason to targetfarm before empowered

terse otter
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ok, thanks 🙂

dense remnant
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(well, woven flesh is potentially worth target farming since they changed the drop rates there so its not nearly always guaranteed)

frosty mirage
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Like Claire said, the frequency of those nodes are much higher in empowered monos, since the drop rate is labeled very rare, empowered mono farming is probably your best bet

split helm
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How much attention do you guys pay to enemy mods in monoliths? At lower corruption I never paid it much mind, but lately I keep getting hit with a "Void enemies deal 250% increased damage" mod that makes all echos super-difficult (I'm in last ruin so every mob is a void mob lol).

dense remnant
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a fair amount, depends on where im at in terms of progress realtive to mono difficulty though

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also build dependent to an extent, some builds really suffer from stuff like dodge

frosty mirage
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In regular monos? None, empowered and before a boss fight? I pay more attention, particularly if I’m traveling a relatively straight path out to increase stability gains.

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I'm assuming this is some RV farming as well

dense remnant
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loot filter puzzle for anyone bored:
I want to show all boots with hybrid health, and 1 of strength, vitality or movespeed. Or an empty suffix slot or prefix slot (or more).
And in the case that theres 2 prefixes that include one of the ones not listed here, that other one is t4 or lower. But if theres one prefix slot empty, and the other prefix is a non listed one, it can be t5.

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I can do it through to the last rule, can't find anyway to do all the other things, but also show if theres an empty prefix slot and a non-wanted prefix thats t5.

snow spruce
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In one rule?

dense remnant
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nah

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do it in as many as you need

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ive got the same result multiple ways now, from 4-6 rules, and i just cant solve the last part

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i feel like it must be possible, because i feel so close every time

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but i just cant get it

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the problem is coming from needing to hide t5 of non-wanted prefixes, except if theres no other prefixes

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while also showing the 3 prefixes i want, if the non wanted prefixes are lower than t5

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and i think its because theres no way to say 'one of these affixes' in a rule, its 1 or more

vital steeple
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any way to have a mana bar under the hp/ward ones in the middle of the screen?

balmy current
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Not without the devs making it so, no.

olive tinsel
sly brook
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i might have missed it but what would happen to my old druid character when 0.8.4 patch drops?

knotty hinge
fierce kraken
fierce kraken
dense remnant
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  • any of the 3 listed
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hybrid and 1 of them, instead of hybrid or 1 of them

fierce kraken
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is that the part you couldn't figure out?

dense remnant
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no lol

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'I can do it through to the last rule, can't find anyway to do all the other things, but also show if theres an empty prefix slot and a non-wanted prefix thats t5.'

fierce kraken
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can you hide anything with those affixes that sum to t10?

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and start by hiding everything with 4 affixes

dense remnant
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the aim is that it shows every boot with hybrid health, and vit, strength or movement speed, and the other prefix either empty, or a t4 or lower prefix not of those 3, or two of vit strength and movespeed, or a t5 or lower prefix of the ones not listed and the other prefix slot empty

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t10 sum doesnt solve the problem

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cus i want to not show t5 of the non wanted prefixes, when a wanted prefix is also on the item

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so thats sums t6-t10, but theres other combinations the fill everything but t10.

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its basically a: 'if this can be made to work, then the current filter rules allow for as much fine tuning as wanted/needed with the crafting changes' problem

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and i could hide by affix, except the non wanted prefix with a missing prefix is 1 affix, 2 affix and 3 affix totals

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which means your rules end up overlapping into the rest of it

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basically it needs a rule, that we can't make, in between 'hide boots with t5', and 'hide boots with 2 prefix', that tells the filter to show boots with t5 (or no specified tier) of the nonwanted prefix if theres no other prefix

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(i got the same result other ways as well, this is just the latest one i did)

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Tiersum is the closest idea within the current rules to making it work i think, but it has the problem of there being no 'and' option for affixes in a single rule, so you cant specify a non wanted affix to a specific range in a single rule (which defeats the purpose for this situation, the tiersum doesnt actually matter, i care more about the affix value of the unwanted affixes here, than wanted ones). You could emulate that with multiple rules, but the idea is to be able to specify that twice in the filter for different conditions as determined by ordering, and needing to use multiple rules stops that working

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Also worth noting this is the simplest of the rules i need to set up to make the filter do exactly what I want, the rest dont complicate it, but just add extra bits, which is why this is kind of wierd with the t5 thing

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(others have different values for the non-wanted prefixes, and its also a variable)

fierce kraken
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are all items shown going to have hybrid health?

dense remnant
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for boots yes

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at least if i can get this working properly

fierce kraken
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(assuming boots for now)

dense remnant
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yeah then, thats the idea with this rule

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but obviously some amount of flexibility is expected

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so it can be adjusted fairly simply

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so planning that the show rule for boots is just showing hybrid health or something

fierce kraken
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so are hybrid health w/o any prefixes, hidden or shown?

dense remnant
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(hiding stuff as the main form of filtering seems to make the most sense for this setup)

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shown

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(also it should really show if theres an empty suffix slot and one of the wanted prefixes, but that just complicates solving the problem as it shouldnt effect it, i can put that in easily, its just changing the show rule)

fierce kraken
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so we hide bad prefixes if they total t10?

dense remnant
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no

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well yeah kinda

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shouldnt be two unwanted prefixes on the item

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if theres a wanted prefix and unwanted, the unwanted shouldnt be t5

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but thats t6-t10, not just t10

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an obviously t6-t9 is wanted if it isnt with a t5 unwanted prefix

fierce kraken
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so what shows from SHOW (atleast 1 wanted suffix), HIDE(sum t10 unwanted) that you dont want to see?

dense remnant
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any of the combined prefixes that have a t5 unwanted prefix

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if you only hide tiersum10, then you arent hiding t5 of the unwanted prefix in most situations

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only in the situation when the wanted prefix is t5

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and just doing a sum of the unwanted doesnt work

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becuase im already hiding unwanted affixes if theres two of them together

fierce kraken
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How does that filter look?

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the hide rules are the unwanted affixes

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can the item have 2 unwanted prefixes that are both less than t5?

dense remnant
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the first rule is hiding any boot with t5 or higher of unwanted affixes

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''I can do it through to the last rule, can't find anyway to do all the other things, but also show if theres an empty prefix slot and a non-wanted prefix thats t5.''

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literally the entire thing i cant solve :p

fierce kraken
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sorry, ive mostly been playing catch up

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does that item also need hybrid hp?

dense remnant
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show:
any boot with hybrid health, and 1 of the wanted prefixes, with either: another wanted prefix, an empty prefix slot, or a t4 or lower unwanted prefix.
any boot with hybrid health, and 1 empty prefix slot with either: another empty prefix slot, or any tier of unwanted prefix.
any boot with one of the wanted affixes, and an empty suffix slot if no hybrid health. (The other prefix slot is empty, another wanted, t4 or lower unwanted)

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if that is how it comes out, then it solves the problem

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i can do everything but: 'any tier of unwanted prefix'

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i can only manage to get that to match the 'or a t4 or lower unwanted prefix' requirement

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ive also spent like, 1-2 hours trying to solve it

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i might have missed something obvious, but i doubt its solved with a simple rule (well i doubt its solvable, but if it is, then id be surprised if its simple)

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the other possibillity is to recolour a specific rule that includes the stuff i dont want to see that i cant filter out, and as little stuff i do want to see as possible, so at least i can pick up everything else, then when i see that colour i look at it and decide myself, but eh

fierce kraken
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still here btw just doing some testing

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Filter rules

iron thistle
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May be a little clunky and time consuming to put together, but could you just make an exception for each potential affix combination?

dense remnant
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no xD

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theres a 75 rule limit

iron thistle
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Oh RIP.

dense remnant
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helmet has a prefix amount of 38 for sentinel

acoustic thicket
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Do people make preset loot filters? Is that what the “import loot filter” is or is it just to import your own loot filter to other characters?

static glacier
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to do that you can use the dropdown list

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the import stuff is really for "other peoples stuff"

acoustic thicket
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Thnx, another question but about monos, in your opinions is it worth building up corruption for chances at better loot in the early monos or better power through them till empowered monos?

static glacier
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if you can handle the empowered stuff rush empowered

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building corruption in non empowered is a huge waste of time

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empowered start at 100 with all the added benefits

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if you totaly need some blessing to make your build being able to do empowered at all ofc you have to farm it in normal

rugged chasm
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Hello, can we craft legendary items with fractured exalted items ?

amber notch
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As long as they have 4 affixes afaik

rugged chasm
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Yeah didnt see that mentioned anywhere so I guess we can

lunar holly
rugged chasm
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Oh right I forgot that fractured won't be a thing anymore

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Explain why I didn't see it anywhere my bad

rugged chasm
lunar holly
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sure thing 🙂

static glacier
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well fractured is now called "0 forging potential"

lucid compass
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For trying to target farm a unique, can that item be dropped anywhere in the timeline or can it only come from the unique item node

amber notch
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You have a guaranteed drop of that type in the unique node

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But it can normally drop anywhere

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(assuming it's in the normal drop pool)

sleek cypress
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how do you guys feel about item sockets/socketables? would it be bad for LE?

crude harbor
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is it known yet at what time the patch will hit on the 10th? haven't played LE in a long time, so i don't really know their usual release schedules

random dock
crude harbor
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alright ty 🙂

frank abyss
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i'm getting the LE-24 error anyone can help?

olive tinsel
# frank abyss i'm getting the LE-24 error anyone can help?

If I remember correctly, this is a license error, that was pretty common 2 patches ago and got fixed with a hotfix.

If you are still experiencing that it's worth opening a thread in the technical support category.

Do you use steam or standalone? (What ever you use, did you tried using the other one?)

cloud kindle
sleek cypress
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Is that not different than items which drop that you can socket, and you can't modify their tiers after (currently, you can modify up to 5 tiers, and 7 tiers with exalted).

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Which game have you played where sockets function like that?

dense remnant
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I think it depends on how the sockets would function

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if sockets functioned just as another stat, then meh

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if socket functioned to give interesting stuff, then cool

cloud kindle
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It's the response Mike gave during a stream. He said something like "it's basically a socket system". Maybe @bitter lion has the source easily available

sleek cypress
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Ah. I see

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Eh, that somewhat makes sense.

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My thought was that sockets/socketables could roll a different pool of affixes. Such as on hit effects or some shit.

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But, it may just have no place in LE.

dense remnant
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it would just need to be something that isnt the stats and thigns we already have

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otherwise you're just adding an affix slot to items

sleek cypress
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Tru

cloud kindle
sleek cypress
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ic

cloud kindle
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@bitter lion don't spend too much time searching if you don't have it easily 😉

bitter lion
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Yeah, I don't have the source available but I know Mike has said previously that the current use of affixes in LE's crafting system is basically equivalent to sockets. And he also mentioned that if they were to introduce a socket system that it'd have to be something else...something unique.

cloud kindle
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OK, thanks! 🙂

sleek cypress
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makes sense

frank abyss
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i received the game as a gift, and it's on steam @olive tinsel

olive tinsel
frank abyss
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but it's on steam i can't play it on standalone

knotty hinge
frank abyss
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i did create an account but i cannot link it to steam

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there is only buy now option on account overview

knotty hinge
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Leaving this for my future reference. The solution was to restart Steam (restarting game did not resolve the issue) and create a new account within the game. The create account button was initially unavailable. LE-24

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foggy onyx
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create and log in to link

knotty hinge
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They couldn't create an account because the button was not present and there isn't a way to link via account overview if the account is created on the site.

frosty mirage
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I don’t think I’ll ever get tired of the Argentus fight, just a classic fun fight, in fact, most of the left side timeline fights are better/more fun imo that the right side

random dock
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I love the soundtrack in that fight

rancid edge
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I also bought LE on Steam, now i see we have to make an account under https://lastepoch.com/
You cant make an account within the steam client, so i made it under the regular LE website
I made that but cant login with my new details in LE via Steam...
There is no account link option
I hope there is an option how to fix that and login again very quick (wanna play)
I cant believe it, there was no email or update regarding that issue

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knotty hinge
rancid edge
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No, there is no option

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only "remember account" 😄

knotty hinge
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Restart steam

rancid edge
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ok

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Lol

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Strange

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Yea, i reinstalled the game and didnt restarted steam, now i did and all is there like before 😄

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Thanx mate

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So i dont need an LE account if i have steam?

balmy current
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You do need to create an LE account if you have it on steam

rancid edge
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Ok, i see this was a lot dust for nothing 😄 😄

fierce kraken
young tendon
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if i make a new HC character today will i still be able to do the new update stuff?

balmy current
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yes

young tendon
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swag

static glacier
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well if you die today you wont 😛

lost siren
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should i wait til 8.4 before creating a new char? or its fine to start now

viral heart
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sooo, trying to get a fractured crown and on LEtools it says in the character sheet its lvl 1. but in the database its lvl 72. which is it?

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start now

lost siren
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alright

viral heart
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the only difference for items is the way crafting will work on new items compared to current drops and uniques. but since ur starting out ull have no problem getting new gear when patch has dropped to take advantage of the new system

lost siren
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im not starting out

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i have old chars

viral heart
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ur saying new char

lost siren
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yeah new char

viral heart
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yeh go play

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u gotta refarm all the items coz they wont change with the new patch]

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so before u get to endgame patch will drop and u can farm new patch gear

lost siren
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ah ok

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thanks

frosty mirage
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Your non-unique items will have some forging potential if they have low to medium instability, but your current pre-patch uniques will not have any legendary potential.

Which reminds me I need to do some spring cleaning today on my common uniques

indigo jackal
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what time is the release?

frosty mirage
indigo jackal
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too excited lel

waxen plover
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I am trying to decide between a Lich and a Void Knight. Anybody want to clue me in on what the focus is of each, and what area in which they excel? They seem similar, with Lich being more magic-focused, VK being more melee?

brave ibex
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VK actually has a mix of caster and melee options, it's currently an extremely powerful class and very versatile. Lich is fine, not as strong as VK, but fun nevertheless. Lich does tend towards caster, but it does have Harvest as well for a melee option

waxen plover
static glacier
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Harvest lich is maybe the coolest and best looking build in the game 😉

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i mean you are the freaking death that scythes stuff while being on constant low hp and decaying

dim canopy
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Does the "damage taken on block" affix that you can have on shields scale additively to the damage reduction that block effectiveness provides?

balmy current
spiral hawk
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Alright, so this is my "should I buy this game or not" question: How long is the pre-endgame, and how fun/quick/tolerable is it to level alts?

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Asking because this is my gripe with grim dawn and poe.

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I hate running the same content over and over and over to get to "the fun part" where I'd rather spend my time

dense remnant
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im normally going into endgame 2 hours or less after making a new character, i still need to go back and grab passives and idol slots, but thats extremely quick once ive levelled up a bunch

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also the patch coming tommorow adds a dungeon which will contribute somewhat to alt levelling

spiral hawk
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Sold. Thanks!

dense remnant
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oh patch notes have a more specific thing on alts

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'Reaching the end of the Temporal Sanctum also allows you to proceed directly to Chapter 9 of the campaign'

spiral hawk
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zomg now I have to buy it twice