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broken pagoda
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When i think most of the bugs or weird interactions are in skill trees

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Lack of tooltip makes it harder to see if stuff work or dont and how effevtive

copper fable
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how long do bees last from keepers gloves

rare parrot
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about 1 hit

broken pagoda
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I think you helped me the other day with burning daggers

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But it turned out i was right cause its bugged or something it actually not efgected at all by skill tree

brittle atlas
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yeah, I'm pretty convinced burning daggers are bugged

broken pagoda
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It shouls

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Should work but

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Even points that say burning daggers do more damage

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Dont add to their damage

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The points behind daggers xD

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So i think the hard part of crafting now is

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Knowing whst works what doesnt

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And interaction im skill tree

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A detailed tool will make it alot easier. But overall i agree anything can work if built with reason

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I went more defensive stacked defensive and damage is fine

broken pagoda
long bramble
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Where i can get the forgotten knight set swrod?

brittle atlas
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it's a world drop

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can also be targeted in reign of dragons

long bramble
brittle atlas
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only from unique/set sword nodes

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it's not a boss drop

hollow socket
copper fable
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its 10, tunks has it

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so yeah you can if lucky get 2 swarms of bees

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I did manage to at one point have like 11 bees heavybreathing

rare parrot
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Is there flat damage that stacks on bleed or time rot or ignite?

brittle atlas
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no

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bleed/ignite scale flat damage via chance to apply allowing for more stacks at once

rare parrot
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Thanks!

magic hill
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does this node work with channeling flurry?

static glacier
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Yes

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At least it did back in december

languid dirge
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Is therr a way to reset passive skill tree?

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Or only way is new char?

brittle atlas
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you can respec at the npc with the brain icon in town

languid dirge
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Thanks

balmy current
static glacier
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afair you can use the increased mana cost with the passive for inc. damage without paying the actual cost - but thats another "back in december"

wanton roost
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Anyone playing a Poison dot build? or is upfront big hits the way to go with poison

hollow socket
gleaming sedge
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how do i see ilvl? if item requires lv63 would that mean that item is ilvl 63?

amber notch
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There's no ilvl afaik

gleaming sedge
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it's in the items filter

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hide item level

wanton roost
hollow socket
wanton roost
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I see, thank you very much for the info

hollow socket
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However I think it's a prefix while poison chance is a suffix, so you can have both.

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Attack/cast speed is one of the most important stats on most poison builds, too.

wanton roost
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Good to know!

static glacier
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the "hit" does nothing for the poison it applies like with every other alliment you need many hits / lot of chance % / duration / effect

wanton roost
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Thanks, I think what confused me was looking over builds where the Poison damage amount in their stats screen was very low compared to Bleed builds Bleed damage - if that makes sense

brittle atlas
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Yeah, the damage in the stat screen is a single stack

magic hill
balmy current
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  1. Yes (generic % minion damage, but not % minion melee damage), 2. No since they aren't minion affixes, 3.Yes.
balmy current
lavish dew
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Anyone with experience with mutilate can suggest if it is viable/ any recommendations ?

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And yeah Ik Valdyr's chalice + rare amulet is another option

brittle atlas
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imo go rare belt and poison res implicit chest. get hp suffixes on helm and chest

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if you need the res suffixes put them on rings

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you should max out the death's door passive in blade dancer as a high priority

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Missile Mastery in Marksman doesn't do much if your focus is bleed

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Should max out Evasion in rogue passives too

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imo Disembowel and Lethal Cadence are relatively weak points

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Wing Guards don't make much sense if your focus is on throwing attacks and a cooldown-gated skill

lone flume
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Disembowel passive = 166% bleed chance so it is not weak

brittle atlas
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on every third use of an attack you get 5 extra stacks of bleed, and need minimum 3 points in lethal cadence, which is ~6.7% damage per point.

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and since the build above is using shadows + shurikens...I question if those shadow-copied shurikens get the bleed from that

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or if it's only your shuriken throw

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it all of the shadow copies get it too, it's probably pretty decent since shadow shurikens with blade shield are bugged atm and shotgun

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if it doesn't apply to their shurikens it's probably not great

lone flume
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also in Suraj's build I wouldn't put more than 1 point into Argent Veil. It is a passive where you either invest heavily or just put 1 point and forget

lavish dew
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Thanks for all the pointers guys !

lavish dew
lavish dew
lavish dew
lavish dew
lavish dew
brittle atlas
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you'd much rather have the powerful % damage reduction points imo

lavish dew
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Oh is it a bugged interaction dang it guess its gonna change up then

brittle atlas
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currently, if you have blade shield in the shuriken tree it lets the fan of shurikens thrown by shadows shotgun

lavish dew
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Those aren't affected by shuriken tree tho right ?

brittle atlas
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I believe they are affected by the tree, just not certain nodes like blade shield

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at least in terms of some functionality

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but they definitely get the extra projectiles, can throw shurikens in sequence if you take that node, etc

lavish dew
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oh then that's kinda busted cos sync strike also has bleed chance meaning they would get double the chance ?

brittle atlas
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I don't think shadows inherit anything from sync strike's tree?

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only nodes like Foreshadowing

lavish dew
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ah ok thanks this my first blademaster

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5 builds so far, 2 self made, 1 partially self made. I love how each class has kinda different systems

pearl epoch
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So I'm rerolling a Paladin today in Hardcore... What would offer me more damage and survivability: fire shield throw, or lightning javelin (not focused on smite)

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I've done Shield Throw in the past before Sentinel rework and it was quite good, but javelin seems like it would offer similar results and it's new

lavish dew
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You need to use avarice/tome of elements/prism wraps(with close to 100% crit chance) till you get the blessing tho

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Also can do temporal corruption+void bolts for more flat dmg but it makes your smites purple and I don't like that

warped dew
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I'm having some troubles with the filter, I've got 3 different recolor rules, one that recolors all exalteds, one that recolors items with at least 2 affixes that I want, and the last one that recolors items with at least 1 affix that I want, but it doesn't work, it's overwritten by the 2 affixes one

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The last rule being above or below the 2 affixes one doesn't change anything

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To make it easier to understand the 1 affix is specifically for rares ones, in that case +1 flurry and multishot damage so I don't have to look at every item that is on the ground

brittle atlas
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the 1 affix should have priority if it's above the others

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not sure otherwise

warped dew
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Nvm I figured it out

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I added another affix to test if it was working or not, turns out I ticked the wrong one bruh i'm just stupid, thanks tho

plush sonnet
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I got a +melee elemental damage chest

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but cant find any shard of that stat

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Am i missing smth ?

warped dew
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maybe because you don't have any

plush sonnet
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I have 5000 shards and been shattering tons

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Unless its very very very rare

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I probably should have some.

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right ?

warped dew
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well I don't have any either

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and I got 3k ish shards

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so very rare maybe

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and I think it drops only on mage gear, so if you filtered it you can't really see it

plush sonnet
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Must been insanely rare cause I got some surge and enchant wpn ones

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I'll make a filter for it and see

stable remnant
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What is the quickest way to progress through the Monolith to unlock the empowered ones? Just beeline straight out from center or reset to add corruption? Kinda bummed we have to redo the easy ones on each character

knotty hinge
crimson gorge
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Is there a way to make items show up on the minimap like set items, that are not set items?

snow spruce
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no

crimson gorge
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Any idea if there are plans to allow that in the future?

random dock
crimson gorge
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Cool, thanks

snow spruce
random dock
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Ill try to see if I can find the VOD 😅 where it was asked

warped blaze
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outside of dancing strikes and warpath, what is wings of argentus best suited for?

warped dew
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What's best to use on a bow : phys% damage or raw bow damage ?

random dock
# snow spruce Do you have a source for that, everything I've seen has been hesitant to commit ...

https://youtu.be/sZZX2po6uBg?t=3601 here it is and yes as you said its because of performance

although I do have faith that they will get over this hurdle 😄 so thats why Im optimistic on it and understand the performance impact too

Loot filter is already good but could be better...thats for later though 🙂

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valid blaze
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how exactly does spell damage scaling work? first time playing and not sure how to tell what stats influence my damage etc

lament nest
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I recently created a rogue and I got my first passive at lvl 3, is it a bug?

knotty hinge
lament nest
knotty hinge
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Skill at 2, passive at 3.

radiant shadow
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is there a way to see the actual stats of my minions? I know it says like 875% increased HP, but is there a way to see the HP number?

static glacier
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No, just excel

radiant shadow
balmy current
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Excel is your friend

hollow socket
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Would you deem the Bardiche or Great Axe a better fit for bleed builds?

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Bardiche adds 60 to 90% bleed chance, but you stack a ton of that stat already and the Great Axe has a 0.06 higher attack rate, with attack speed being hard to come by.

amber notch
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Does empowered mono's increase the chance for rare drops from the boss?

brittle atlas
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via corruption

amber notch
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Thanks

lone flume
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Soulfire relic says '100% armor when ignited' . How can I self-ignite please?

iron thistle
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I think I remember seeing another unique that ignites you. Last Epoch planner search should help.

copper fable
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calamity puts a small fire dot on you, its not ignite.

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As far as I know there is no current way to self ignite

iron thistle
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That's not the one I was thinking of. I'll check when I'm back at my computer.

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Guess I remembered wrong.

fallow oyster
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Do I get a better chance of finding mage uniques while playing a mage?
Because I'm trying to farm a unique for my mage as a rogue, not sure if it's diminished the odds.

wheat brook
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I'm looking to start up a necromancer, just wondering what build people would recommend if i aim to push as high as i can with it?

iron thistle
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You're more likely to find drops specific to the class you're playing.

warped blaze
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how to calculate melee attack hit rate?

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Not sure what base I am going off of

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Like in the planner my attack speed says 124% and changes based on the weapon base attack rate but that confuses me because I thought it was base + attack speed %

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is the base attack speed always 1? and say a 1.2 rate weapon increases by 20%?

copper fable
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% Attack speed is multiplied by weapon modifier.

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Basically the best way to think about it is a 1.0 weapon is 100%, if you have 150% extra, you have 250% total. if you have 150% extra on a 1.2 weapon, you have 300% total

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The reason its important to consider baseline 100% is because if you have 0% increased and a slow weapon your page will actually show negative attack speed

warped blaze
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so if I have 50% increased attack speed and a 1.2 rate weapon I multiply my increases by 20%

copper fable
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Since the less then 1.0 base speed constitutes to less attack speed.

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Yes, but it will be higher then that on page

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since you have a baseline 100%, so if you were naked and had no passives etc, and put on a 1.2 weapon your sheet would say 20% attack speed

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Base speed * (1 + increased attack speed) = sheet speed

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So if you had 50%, and a 1.2 weapon, it would be 1.2 *(1 + 0.5) = 1.8 or 80%

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the tldr is that yes basically weapon base speeds are more multipliers

warped blaze
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so the sheet on the planner is showing the formula and then adding the base attack rate on top?

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Because when I calculate my attack speed I get 102.92 but the sheet says 126% when I have a 1.24 weapon

copper fable
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do you know how much increased attack speed you have exactly?

warped blaze
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82%

copper fable
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1.24 * (1 + 0.82) = 2.2568 rounded up is 2.26, or 126%

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Basically sheet is showing you the final "extra" attack speed you have. You have to account for the baseline speed, which is the 1 in the above formula. 1 is the baseline, which does get mutliplied by weapons

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So even if you were a level 1 character with 0 passives and items, a 1.2 weapon gives you 20%

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Because 1.2 * 1 = 1.2 or 20% above 100%.

warped blaze
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oh woops

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I put in the wrong number

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for some reason I put in 82 instead of 0.82

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but you are right

copper fable
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The sheet also does not account for any attack speed you get in skill trees

warped blaze
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correct

copper fable
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Then for the actual hit rate of skills, I dont think its a direct comparison, each attack has a hidden attack rate iirc. So 1.2 isnt like "1.2 attacks per second" or something, its just an attackspeed multiplier

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So getting the direct actual attack rate is a bit hard

pallid sage
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Bone curse have node "RUPTURED CORPSE" with 25% chance on explode on target death. How many damage it deal?

copper fable
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I couldnt tell, I think its bone curses damage, its pretty low in my own tests.

static glacier
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all the explosion stuff is a total blackbox

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i asked for it many times and noone ever could tell me

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lets just say: not worth it at all from all i tried

near inlet
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If I wanted to go a minion DoT build, would it be better to go beastmaster or necromancer?

brittle atlas
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Beastmaster probably has better overall support for it, but I know some people have been enjoying necro with the new unique polearm and skele rogues

copper fable
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I have been cooking up an ignite skelemages build, but its still cookin.

pearl epoch
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Is there a way to increase the area of Holy Trail Jevelin? It's like throwing a damn toothpick

balmy geode
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So does Apathy's Maw drop from any empowered orobyss? or does he still require some additional corruption?

knotty hinge
balmy geode
knotty hinge
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Requires at least 200+ corruption

balmy geode
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Thanks man, have a good day

amber notch
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Guessing based on the size yeah

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SDDs are pretty sturdy though, you can just have one dangling in your case and be fine mostly

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I think sata ssds are almost always supported

pallid sage
languid dirge
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Is there a fast way to level up skill trees? from 0 after respecing

static glacier
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you start at x - 11 depending on lvl

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from around 80 levleling a skill to 18 takes 3-5 minutes

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to 20 another 5-10

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getting faster later ... at 90+ you can reach lvl 19 in sub 5 minutes and 20 in sub 10

languid dirge
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oh thats so cool

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it takes long time in level 35 so i was wondering

static glacier
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yeah its a bit strange that its most punishing early

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but you will reach like -2 levels of your other skills very fast

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dont worry just try stuff - maybe not respeccing ALL your skills at once

languid dirge
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Yea I am having good time with mines now

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but wanted to ask cuz I might do some another builds in endgame

static glacier
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you will spend 20 minutes to redo passives and skills and 2 hours looking for matching gear at your 127 pages of stash 😛

languid dirge
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probably true

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already trying to find good pieces from stash of 3 pages at times

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xd

static glacier
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well organizing stuff helps

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but pages get really expensive later

frosty mirage
static glacier
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sometimes i enjoy that - sometimes i am like "noooo" and start a new SSF project 😉

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so my pile of chars keep growing

alpine wolf
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Help, which one should I pick?

woeful parcel
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Are minnons such as skellies getting a tool tip dps eventually? , hard to know how much I'm doing with all my minnons on my necro when none of them have dps numbers lol

frosty mirage
woeful parcel
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Oof okay will do

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Thanks

frosty mirage
alpine wolf
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I had a blackout and this appeared after I got online back.

frosty mirage
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Essentially the difference between the two is only that steam can be a day to a couple days behind compared to local files

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As the backup occurs after the session ends

prisma condor
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Would it be worth doing a low life build on my static orb sorcerer? Is earlier game ward build generally more tanky? I have chest/ belt / boots for it. Thanks

static glacier
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sorc doesnt get any % life in passives or any noteworthy life support at all - wouldnt be my pick for LL

knotty hinge
hollow socket
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Or that's my experience.

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It's better to leave your HP at max and then generate ward on top of that since that doesn't put as much strain on your ward retention.

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What I do suggest is converting your potions to ward. Sorcerer can get elemental leech on the tree, which is enough while levelling.

broken pagoda
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guys do stats like int/dex effect burning/poison bleed of skills that are dex/int based? (i mean the 4% stats normally give does it also apply to dot? like ignite?)

plush sonnet
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Is there any way to search "usable" gear in stash ?

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Its not very clear what I can use at my level and what i cant

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like a "level <20" search string or smth

knotty hinge
plush sonnet
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Ty, maybe i'll make a suggestion

broken pagoda
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how is uncapped resist work here? meaning the over cap or if you dont cap?

hollow socket
plush sonnet
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btw if you're 25% overcapped

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and you get 25% reduced resistance

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are you at 75% or 50 % ?

hollow socket
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Depends on what reduces it. Mostly you're at 50.

plush sonnet
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Okay so overcapping isnt good at all then.

hollow socket
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I heard that the mark that reduces 25 would consider your overcap, but I don't believe that's worth building around.

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So yes, invest into a layer that's always active rather than overcapping.

woeful parcel
broken pagoda
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do they mean based of the over capped resist?

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or under?

hollow socket
woeful parcel
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Ahh okay fair

plush sonnet
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marked for death I think its called

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iirc

hollow socket
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But they have to give REALLY massive benefits to make it worth trashing defense slots for a res you don't need.

woeful parcel
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It's generally all your res at that point

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Yeah

broken pagoda
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ohh so these if i have 100 total cold resist base + overcap 25 and item says %ward retation per uncapped then its 100%?

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thats pretty impactful

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thanks

woeful parcel
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What's the item

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Nvm found it

broken pagoda
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Frostbite Shackles

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ya

broken pagoda
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i got another weird question xD if i apply ignite or spell dot any dot.. and then after applying it i get a buff would existing instances of dot start to tick harder? or only new ones made while buff was active will be stroner?

static glacier
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Alliments snapshot when applied

broken pagoda
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i see so only new ones will be stronger thank you

ripe sundial
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What's the best 1H base for sweep werebear?
I see people use crescent axe, but I can't get one that makes me have higher tooltip

hollow socket
brittle atlas
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I would think Katana, Eagle Wing, Obsidian Dagger, or Doom Star

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if you're lightning conversion then Crescent Axe makes sense

hollow socket
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Katana/Doom Star could certainly be an option.

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Probably Katana if you already get added lightning from other sources.

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It might still be weaker than the crescent, do the maths before you go chasing one ^^

brittle atlas
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if you're doing the lightning route in swipe, you already get quite a lot of access to lightning penetration, though

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up to 105%, depending on how many points you want to invest

broken pagoda
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how effective is chill here against bosses?

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do bosses with 3 stacks of chill suffer the same reduction of attack speed and cast speed as mobs?

broken pagoda
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nice so chil is actually super strong defensive

ripe sundial
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Do these kind of passives add a physical tag to it? Like if I got this and got +1 to physical spells, would it work?

woeful parcel
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Is there an equivalent to spiritual aid "minon damage applies to you at a % of the original" in LE?

static glacier
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stormcrows have a node for that e.g.

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well the other way around

frosty mirage
static glacier
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your damage applies to them

frosty mirage
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Also states in the text that it scales with physical damage increases, that includes both flat and multiplicative

woeful parcel
static glacier
woeful parcel
tight kernel
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do rare enemies have blue names?

knotty hinge
tight kernel
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thanks

acoustic thicket
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Is abberant call still bugged?

pallid sage
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Nope

broken pagoda
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guys armor is reducing only hit damage or its effecting dots aswell? for ignite build i want fire res shred over armor right? and what is the best way to get fire res shred chance?

frosty mirage
broken pagoda
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yeah alright thank you i thought as much but wanted to confirm thanks

frosty mirage
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Fire shred your biggest source will be from the Spirits of Fire monos as a blessing, typically they are in skill node trees and passives. The Simoon gloves also do it but only for the tornadoes they proc

final solstice
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Hi hi!
quick question (found no info in the in-game guide)--
what's the difference between "Spell Damage" and "Elemental Damage"?

I'm trying the ice mage, and wonder what will give me more damage output

warped dew
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@final solstice spell damage improves any type of skills tagged with "spell", for exemple, a void skill tagged with spell is a spell that deals void damage but no elemental damage, meaning only skills (they do not have to be spells, they can be melee) that deal elemental damage will be improved

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So in your case, if your skills with the ice mage have the tag "spell" and "elemental", both will improve it, if it only has "spell" but no "elemental" (which could be "fire" "cold" "lightning"), elemental damage wont be useful

final solstice
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Oh, I see.. So I need "spell damage"

warped dew
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I think that's how it works, I could be wrong tho

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see it has cold and spell, both "spell damage" and "elemental damage" are good

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and if you can you could craft both on your gear to get a better dps outcome

lone flume
frosty mirage
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Spell damage would include any skills with the Spell tag (or sub skill), Elemental damage is any skill with the fire, lightning, or cold tags, also applies to sub skills

final solstice
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oof.. but there's also Intelligence

frosty mirage
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They all apply equally

warped dew
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Intelligence improves the skill by 4% any 1 intelligence point

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If you have 10 INT it will improve the skill by 40%

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but you shouldn't craft attributes on your gear IMO, passive trees has lots of attributes

frosty mirage
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I typically stick them on Boots

lone flume
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Intelligence is good for Ward Retention too though

warped dew
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Yeah but only if you want to have ward retention

frosty mirage
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Vitality too if going high HP

warped dew
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yep

final solstice
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woah! thanks! I have LOTS of work, it seems

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and now, back to the grind!

warped dew
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Good luck !

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Try to get your hand on item filters, it helps a lot

broken pagoda
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anyone has a rough idea about when is the next update and what gonna be included?

lone flume
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next update is supposed to be released in December I think

woeful parcel
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Is this just word choice or is actually a chance to proc

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And if so what is the chance?

warped dew
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24%

broken pagoda
warped dew
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the threshold is 30% of their health I think

woeful parcel
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Hmm then that wording is awkward if that's the case

warped dew
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yeah

balmy current
woeful parcel
balmy current
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Yeah, the "chance" wording is unnecessary/wrong.

warped dew
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oh yeah mb

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the threshold is 24% of their life

broken pagoda
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how hard and on which items can i find +2 or above to cinder strike skill lvl?

warped dew
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+2 is T5

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So quite rare

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you'll get +1 most of the time (from T1 to T4)

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T6 is +3 and T7 +4

broken pagoda
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i see thanks and on which items can i find it?

warped dew
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helmet body armour and relic I think

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Depends on the skill tho

woeful parcel
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I'll check for you

warped dew
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Relic for cinder strike

woeful parcel
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Relic

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Lol

warped dew
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xd

broken pagoda
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i see thanks

woeful parcel
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But helmets can get inc aoe in first hit

broken pagoda
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thats sucks considering there are decent relics for ignite

woeful parcel
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And idols for inc aoe

quartz dagger
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am I really bad at math today or doesn't that add up? (22 points in beastmastery?)

broken pagoda
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kinda only looking for + lvl

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weird

broken pagoda
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yes

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it is

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exa tly 25

woeful parcel
quartz dagger
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that's what I mean

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I'm so c onfused

lone flume
broken pagoda
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so guys my best shoot is hunt or rare relics to get any tier of cinder strike and salvage them and then use shards to craft it on some other relic?

warped dew
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hacks

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@broken pagoda yes

broken pagoda
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thanks

warped dew
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or try to find a T4

broken pagoda
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it seems rare option tho

warped dew
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so you get a T5 right off the bat

quartz dagger
lone flume
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what is the current level of your character?

quartz dagger
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74

broken pagoda
#

if i do this.. will it always show items with any cinder strike lvl?

warped dew
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yes

broken pagoda
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thanks ^^

lone flume
broken pagoda
#

btw its weird but im having somewhat worse performance today (FpS)

broken pagoda
#

i guess its the maps looks like bright maps with alot of lightning have performance reduced

warped dew
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thats possible ye

broken pagoda
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yeah it doesnt seem like CPU in this case.. i first thought its cpu like PoE due to calc but CPU seems to be at like 20% or less and 40c FPS in low lightning maps is like 200 but some specific maps really drop the FPS

warped dew
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lower graphic settings?

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I can run PoE full MTX whatever any game that is supposed to be GPU hungry but somehow LE crashes if I put it at max settings

broken pagoda
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i have no problem runing LE on max settings either nor PoE poe i actually get like 350-400 FPS down 200 ish on crowded shit.. i limit to 144 tho on PoE and keep 144 on fully juicy map spell cascade setting with spammy cast speed .

but LE Umm on town i get 200 ish FPs for most part i keep 120-160 fps at action even in arena.. but some jungle maps with sun

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FPS can go as low as 60

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but it doesnt feel smooth at all

warped dew
#

LE needs more tweaking about graphics issues IMO

broken pagoda
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i think so too mainly lightnning / light stuff i only experience less FPS when theres "sun"

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for example here its actually over 220 fps when im tabbed into the game and not discord

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and thats 2k and good graphic

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im gonna bet in this whole map im not gonna drop under 140 fps

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but ill try take screen shoot of when im in jhungle map with sunlight

broken pagoda
#

i think ill write wht i found out in feedbacks instead of here cause maybe that will help them to work it out

abstract aspen
#

was about to ask about LE graphics improvements but the chat above already says it xD

broken pagoda
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the graphic is fine

abstract aspen
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i meant optimizations

amber notch
#

Do the vortices of glacier stack?

broken pagoda
amber notch
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It does

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No idea if it's good

woeful parcel
#

What's the bonus of going pole arm forged weapons, I can see the bonuses of the other choices just not that one

broken pagoda
#

is freeze/multi any good at higher lvl/corruption ?

frosty mirage
woeful parcel
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I'm dumb it's fine I now see that

frosty mirage
broken pagoda
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chill seems very strong

woeful parcel
frosty mirage
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I’d have to test after work or someone else who has tested this could answer, since there is specific text about it the only question I have is whether or not the spear overwrites the benefits of Put to the Sword, particularly the Cannot Crit factor. They are also diametrically opposed nodes as one is focused on Bleed (DoT) and the other on crit

woeful parcel
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I don't have the spear one chosen

brave ibex
#

So apart from crit modifiers from monoliths, does enemy crit chance increase naturally at higher corruption/arena waves?

ripe sundial
#

What's the mana regen formula? What is base mana regen, and how does % regen work for it? Is % mana regen better if you have a higher base mana pool?

pseudo dust
frosty mirage
broken pagoda
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sorry for the nab question but when is the multiplayer coming out ? and what will it bring with it? thanks

warped dew
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multiplayer will bring multiplayer

balmy current
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!multiplayer

ripe brookBOT
broken pagoda
#

thanks

warped dew
#

in the statement "ennemies are deadly if not damaged recently" what is "recently", like how much seconds, and what is "deadly", does it mean they OS u?

prisma condor
#

A/S/L?

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Oops wrong chat

knotty hinge
prisma condor
warped dew
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Alrighty thanks guys

prisma condor
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@warped dew You're very welcome. I love you

radiant shadow
#

are skeleton rogues worth investing in?

prisma condor
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@radiant shadowI would invest in Bitcoin.

radiant shadow
prisma condor
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Sorry I'm not being helpfull I'll show myself out, but I do believe I saw a build on that. One min

radiant shadow
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never apologize for being funny

prisma condor
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I actually think I just saw a unique that did a thing with skele rogues. I'm not that good at this game. I just love ARPGS

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But mainly I just lack the patience at this time to realistically make an effort to look to see if I did infact at one point see a build around them

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69 hardcore is my favorite

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It's that threshold level

warped dew
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@prisma condor u tryna date me boy, bc if yes lets go

radiant shadow
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the fuck

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anyway

warped dew
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dude told me he loves me

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:$

radiant shadow
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looking for an actually good unique, haven't gotten one yet

prisma condor
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@warped dewSorry I've been drinking I'm as straight as a figure 8

warped dew
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:(

prisma condor
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@radiant shadow This is the only unique I've seen to directly benefit the skele rogues

radiant shadow
broken pagoda
#

anyone else having some weird sound issues on the echo web reset boss? like the sound always cut and back cut and back?

radiant shadow
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the weapon I have now is better than that for damage

broken pagoda
#

what does the quest in the echo mean by discover the remaining branches ?

snow spruce
broken pagoda
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ohh alright thanks so the time lines are the branches?

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thanks !

broken pagoda
#

Can we get + level to firs/bow skills on rare items?

woeful parcel
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I'll check

broken pagoda
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Thanks ^^

woeful parcel
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Doesn't look like it unfortunately, but I'm going by the item database so take that with a grain of salt

broken pagoda
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I see thank you! Maybe in unique / sets ill be more lucky ill try find later ^^

woeful parcel
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Believe each bow skill itself will probably have a specific item for it

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We know cinder strike was on relics

broken pagoda
#

Yeah but i use soulfire unique relic

woeful parcel
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Right

broken pagoda
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Because it has like 200% ignite chance

dapper pendant
#

Okay, what the HECK am I doing wrong that I can't do damage to Rahyeh The Black Sun in the Monolith? Like, what am I missing to make the Sun go away so I can do the fight because I'm melee.

elder bolt
#

hi guys...does this line means bleed effect affect the electrify? what about bleed duration? and the double dot speed axe?

static glacier
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Neither works

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Just stuff like "deal more damage with javeline to bleeding targets" would convert to "to electrified targets"

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@elder bolt

elder bolt
#

so this line must obey the rule that bleed duration with javelin or bleed effect with javelin?

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no wonder i deal so less dmg awwwww😩

static glacier
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Bleed duration or effectivenes do nothing for your javeline

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Your javeline cant cause bleeding anymore

elder bolt
#

and bleed duration not convert to eletrify duration, right?

static glacier
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Jep

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And neither electrify duration not effect are in game yet as a affixe

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Asked for it on PTR allready ... hope gets added later 😬

elder bolt
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my whole character was ruined....bye electrify javelin-din...

static glacier
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paladin has some electrify stuff in passives afaik but the support is really poor afair

broken pagoda
static glacier
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yep it just converts what it states ... the % chance

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but you can use all the ignite stuff now of

broken pagoda
#

but it does says effects related to shock now depend on ignite

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so that only mean if i have damage against shocked enemies

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it will be damage against ignited enemy?

static glacier
#

in that tree yes

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the whole conversion stuff would be totaly worthless in almost any case if it would "kill" most more damage nodes that depend on unconverted alliment

broken pagoda
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yeah but it doesnt say "in this tree"

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when some stuff says in this tree

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makes me think that its global

static glacier
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grabbing some random skill just to convert some other skill would be not very logic either i guess

languid dirge
#

is doing a level 58 echo on for example 70 level easier than doing it on 58?

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Do you gain advantage if u are higher level?

warped dew
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More exp

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Only the bosses gets a lil bit harder but overall it's the same

languid dirge
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Oh, Thanks for the information

warped dew
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I think that's how it works, it'd make sense, higher level area with lower level char > more exp

static glacier
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The absolute xp gain should be the same, but relative to what a level needs its more

broken pagoda
#

guys the different between these two is the marksman node can only trigger once per skill and the rouge one which is 16 can trigger more ? once per hit?

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for example if i have skill that hit twice or 3 times the rouge one will trigger 3 times?

warped dew
#

Would losing phys% damage to get chance to bleed be worth it ?

woeful parcel
warped dew
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yeah that's the thing I think it could be worth to stack bleed

woeful parcel
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Probably try it, I can see it working

warped dew
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If my maths is right i'm at 285% bleed chance

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Char sheets + passives + skill passives

woeful parcel
#

Getting over that 300% would be 3 stacks a hit right

warped dew
#

Char sheets only shows bleed chance affixes on gear

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Yeah

broken pagoda
#

dont you guys feel that chill is abit too strong or actually not too strong but too easy? any build with high hit per second regrdless of anything else can have just 10% an benefit fully from the like 30% less attackspeed/movement speed on enemeies?

woeful parcel
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I mean the issue with it a slippery slope, you start tweaking those numbers much and now it's very niche and hardly seen instead, although 30% seems high, I can see like 25% still being fine

warped dew
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Somehow builders says that their build can achieve stupid ammounts of damage (5 mil for example) but it's only working on the dummy since it has no res at all, when taken into endgame you generally deal far less than it's supposed to

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for example, my flurry skill, no buffs, deals at max 10k melee damage on the dummy where it's usually 1k at max on monsters/bosses

iron thistle
#

Yup.

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Clickbait advertising.

warped dew
#

I feel like monster should have numbers on their HP bars

broken pagoda
#

everything rerally is slow motion

warped dew
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i kill shit so fast I don't even have time to see hit B)

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For the nova skill, no, if u don't pick the channel node

languid dirge
#

Yea I just saw it

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the one on the top right node

warped dew
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yup

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but it drains mana real fast

woeful parcel
#

Like... Really fast lmao I was surprised but eh

quartz dagger
#

So I found a build from boardman that requires an item which is apparently legacy.
Take it's not obtainable anymore then in this case?

warped dew
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what item?

languid dirge
#

I am trying a build with flame ward and elemental nova thing

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with teleport

warped dew
#

skills that procs with movement skills aren't that good

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u mostly use them for the buff side of it

languid dirge
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and got an item that gives %263 damage increase to channeling skills

quartz dagger
warped dew
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My rogue has a movement skill called swift that procs shadow cascade which is an aoe skill, but it doesn't deal enough damage to rely on it, I use it to make the ennemies bleed so I deal more damage to them

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@quartz dagger you can still get it

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@languid dirge what's the item type ?

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I think you're talking about "damage while channeling" and I can't find that high of %

languid dirge
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it is purple

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I am new so not sure about how buffs work or not at all much

warped dew
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it's a really good item

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except for the minion part

languid dirge
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yea

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sadly

woeful parcel
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Nice

warped dew
#

you can try to get rid of it but don't

languid dirge
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I have a qeustion tho

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will this be useless when i hit 100 lvl?

woeful parcel
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Use it on a forge guard lol can get the minon roll use

warped dew
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true

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but then the chill part become useless

woeful parcel
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Oh that's high chill

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I red 15%

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Read*

languid dirge
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Will this item gonna be useless when i hit lvl100 or lvl doesnt matter for items?

warped dew
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doesn't matter

woeful parcel
#

I can't confirm, but I'd imagine so as both your damage rolls are decent

warped dew
#

item level means higher flat spell/phys and different base rolls

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but the level doesn't really matter

woeful parcel
#

Couldn't a warpath character use that well too

warped dew
#

it could

languid dirge
#

nice

warped dew
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but then warpath would have to be converted to fire to get the more of it

woeful parcel
#

True true

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Forget void is void

warped dew
#

yep

woeful parcel
#

Have fun with it 👍

languid dirge
#

yea thanks

warped dew
#

just trash base for a warpath build

woeful parcel
warped dew
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but would be better than a nova build

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since u can have warpath to cost no mana

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and i think nova is 30 per sec

woeful parcel
#

Is there fire orbs like there is void orbs on warpath

warped dew
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don't think so

woeful parcel
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Ahh it's smite

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Chance to cast smite while spinning

warped dew
#

smite is base fire i think

woeful parcel
#

Yeah

woeful parcel
warped dew
#

sweat

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sweet*

woeful parcel
#

Not me now wanting to see how a paladin smite warpath build with a fat staff for the adaptive spell damage would go., I'll definitely put it on the list

warped dew
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yup

woeful parcel
#

Oh question, there's some uniques chests that have fire aura baked into them that aren't class specific, so do those allow others to use fire aura without being a mage? Because that'd be nice

warped dew
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I have one of those I think

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but yeah I think you could

woeful parcel
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Okay cool thanks

warped dew
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Chances are quite low tho

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25% at perfect roll

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17 at trash

woeful parcel
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Oof

magic breach
#

hey, can i heal myself by consecrated ground created by judgement? "Allies on the consecrated ground are healed for 50 health each second."

woeful parcel
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Can't see why not

magic breach
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thats great. i was not sure if i am considered as ally 😄

woeful parcel
#

That's pretty philosophical I like it

warped dew
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Yeah

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I think allies would be more like friends or minions

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u can try

woeful parcel
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Agreed

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But logic says it would heal you anyway

warped dew
#

yup

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damn i really need an Omnis asap

#

stop being a douche Oro and give me ur amulet :(

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Ok lol when I'm full buffed I have like 579% bleed chance

#

almost 6 stacks of bleed lets go

woeful parcel
#

Beauty

warped dew
#

4 timelines before empowered

#

this is taking so long

woeful parcel
#

So just making sure, is this all stun chance

warped dew
#

probably

marsh maple
#

yep

woeful parcel
#

Good, because I can get a really 'easy' 300% from a good two handed mace + stun chance

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And 150% from the skill tree itself

warped dew
#

neat

woeful parcel
#

Now I just need some bleed/ignite chance

Good times will be had

broken pagoda
#

guys am i the only one that dont notice any different from monsters lvl?

woeful parcel
#

If I say yes, would that help

broken pagoda
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xD

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so monsters lvl do make different?

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i kill lvl 58 and 85 and they feel the same

knotty hinge
#

Try hopping into a monolith at level 25

broken pagoda
#

xD but then its your lvl that matters

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and not the monster lvl you have less gear less power less skill points/passive points

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etc

knotty hinge
#

All relative

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25->58 or 58->90

broken pagoda
#

but the lvl 58 and the lvl 85 seems exactly the same

warped dew
#

yeah but that's because you're leveling at the same time, so u get strongetr

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stronger*

woeful parcel
#

Indeed

warped dew
#

I get that feel too

woeful parcel
#

don't change your character at all from level 50

warped dew
#

But on monos bosses it's something else

woeful parcel
#

You'll start to see it

ripe sundial
#

What's the best poison skill/class/build?

warped dew
#

Would be rogue for poison

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for the skill and build i don't really know tbh

woeful parcel
#

Lots of skills covert to poison

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So probably quite a few things you could play around with

warped dew
#

Man imagine Swift, but u can spam it

woeful parcel
warped dew
#

Shift yeah mb idk why I think it's called swift

woeful parcel
#

Yeah that'd be fun actually, once I get a great poison on hit weapon/ poison damage

For throwing attacks as well

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Like dual daggers with the chance on hit per. Dagger

warped dew
#

But that's devs decision to make the game kind of slow paced tho

woeful parcel
#

Yeah true true

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But that's okay

iron thistle
#

I think they wanted to avoid the WB hyperspeed meta of PoE.

woeful parcel
#

This^

iron thistle
#

Every skill use is supposed to feel tactical and important.

warped dew
#

Yeah

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Which in a way makes the game slow paced

iron thistle
#

Which is why mana sustain is so important.

woeful parcel
#

I need more time in a day

#

Too many builds

warped dew
#

xd

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man the fuck

#

I facetank Orobyss in lvl 90 monos

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but the lvl 58 Oro fucked me up

woeful parcel
#

Fair enough

broken pagoda
#

xD that big undead monster with wings that become worm after it dies is really annoying XD so tanky

woeful parcel
#

What a great sentence

radiant shadow
#

Is Abomination a good choice for necromancer? I started using him and his movement seems to be clunky, as in getting stuck behind my other minions and not really knowing how to walk. that also affects his attacking, he just takes a while before he realizes he's supposed to be angy

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he just feels like he needs a bit of pathing improvement

woeful parcel
#

I believe the concecus yesterday was he was a tad slow and rough on the edges

radiant shadow
woeful parcel
#

Little tweaks is all it'll take tho, I tried it out for awhile

radiant shadow
#

maybe age of undeath and toning down my numbers will help him path better

broken pagoda
#

hahaha

#

its sooo annoying having them in maps

woeful parcel
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:)

broken pagoda
#

so large and weird sooo tanky and leaving a worm behind

woeful parcel
#

Agreed I always forget they chance

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Change*

broken pagoda
#

also their blood attack mess with FPS if is used on distrance

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to be honest when i have them i just ignore the mobs for the map and rush for object

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finish and leave without cleaing

#

clearing

woeful parcel
#

Fair

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If I have a meh to slow build I definitely do that

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But I'm pretty chill most of the time

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Meaning I'm used to going slow xd

broken pagoda
#

im ignite so it takes time to build damage for most cases i just hold left and right click together to attack and walk but with these it takes more

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and then the worm

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i feel like

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unless you are like high burst build they are not worth killing

woeful parcel
broken pagoda
#

hahaha played that RF is fun

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kinda low damage now days after the nerf

woeful parcel
#

Absolutely unfortunately

broken pagoda
#

wellll they made big promises for 16/17

woeful parcel
#

Indeed

broken pagoda
#

next leagues and i think they got the message from us player leaving altho i dont expect huge improvement on the comfort and quality of life i think for this one wed have to wit for poe 2 which is meh they really need to start making PoE less clunky

woeful parcel
#

Scourge is looking intriguing

broken pagoda
#

i swear i need to but a mice every year from all these clicking

woeful parcel
#

I have like horrible hands so I totally get it xd

broken pagoda
#

but to be fair ... if they keep screw up its fine id just play more LE to be honest im having a really great time here

woeful parcel
#

That's exactly it

#

I have another option now

broken pagoda
#

i really hope LE will work to improve interactions / bugs /wording etc of skills trees because they seem abit idk.. lots of the interactions in skill tree are abit unclear if they work or dont work.. some do some dont .. some are bugged lack of tool tip for effects makes it harder to track and so on

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but other than the skill tree everything is pretty chill and fun

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i been playing PoE since beta like 9-10 years now. but ive skipped last 2 leagues it start to be bad and not fun

woeful parcel
#

Oof

#

Makes sense

broken pagoda
#

im abit tired of having to search info on bugged wiki

#

game relay too much on wiki/path of building/craft of exile / poe db

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but doesnt even give them the tools to update fast enough

woeful parcel
#

Most visited site for me is poedb

broken pagoda
#

im tired of alt tabbing more than playing

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their in game guide is empty

#

they add new stuff without give the info

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im happy to read it all and learn but im tired of having to search for it too

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or wait for wiki to update

woeful parcel
broken pagoda
#

sure

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anyways i hope they nerf the HP of that weird monster

woeful parcel
#

Lol like all one hp 75%/25%

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Big tanky thing is 75% threshold

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Then the last bit it's the worm

broken pagoda
#

xD

broken pagoda
#

is there any way to remove the fire without the other two other than the rng rune which prefer to remove exalted lines? xD

balmy current
#

I believe the technical term for it is "go big or go home".

woeful parcel
#

Be lucky

balmy current
#

Or, "risk it for the biscuit" for those slumming it.

woeful parcel
#

To take something from a different game

Slam currency and pray

broken pagoda
#

haha

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OMG

woeful parcel
#

THAT'S WHAT we are looking for!

broken pagoda
#

rip

#

83% chance and it ripped

#

my fault should;ve used the other one

woeful parcel
#

Happens to the best of us

broken pagoda
#

hhaa

#

its ok

woeful parcel
#

I'm actually using bells reach on my archer atm

broken pagoda
#

would be cool to have more options in crafting tho but i think they want to keep it simple and friendly

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which is good too

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like id love gamble on uniques like reroll afix but with chance to destroy

woeful parcel
#

Perhaps that niche will be with legendaries

iron thistle
woeful parcel
#

Oh geez lmao

broken pagoda
#

i really love how bosses are done in this game

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that the big hits you can dodge by being aware

#

boss fights are very fgun

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fun

ripe sundial
#

What are all the items with ward/ward% per second? Is there any perma ward builds outside of storm crows?

balmy current
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With that chest & ideally Last Steps of the Living, yes

woeful parcel
#

Such a cool idea

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How do you sustain the health loss?

broken pagoda
#

you dont

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you basically build high life and sacrifice it

woeful parcel
#

Does it not kill you?

broken pagoda
#

and you keep having ward regen

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no it leave you at like 1 life

woeful parcel
#

Ohh okay

#

So like lich stuff

broken pagoda
#

and you dont want to regen life because you gain ward per second based on missing life

warped dew
#

nice bow noiwk

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i didnt get any good dagger yet :(

woeful parcel
#

Right I basically just meant how doesn't that just kill you, but you answered that one so no worries

woeful parcel
broken pagoda
#

it will always drain as much HP

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but with ward retantion your ward is lost slower so you keep higher ward

balmy current
balmy current
#

Eventually the drain matches your hp regen

woeful parcel
#

Good point!

broken pagoda
#

i wish they let us do boss fights abit more freely

#

i relaly enjoy any kind of boss fight in this game

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the mono bosses and also the ones from the echo web reset

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but it takes alot of echo clear to be able to do them.

warped dew
#

^

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we should have an arena mode for bosses and they get stronger and stronger

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maybe mixing the small ones in one wave

ripe sundial
woeful parcel
#

Yeah I was going by max life at first, righteous fire brain

warped dew
#

They have a health bar but you somehow cant damage them

ripe sundial
#

Does this affect the life channeling of drain life?

woeful parcel
#

Does it drain a percentage

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I'd imagine so

broken pagoda
#

ohh for lvl 90 we unlock 3 monoli at once?

#

this is how my echos looks like now how do i unlock the other 2? black sun and ending of the storm?

warped dew
#

u unlock black sun through the first one

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instead of dreaming of the past u dream of the future

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and then u unlock ending of the storm through black sun

broken pagoda
#

ohh ok thank you

warped dew
#

np

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empowered monos after that :p

broken pagoda
#

after the lvl 90 ones?

iron thistle
#

Yup.

broken pagoda
#

ya right now im trying to figur eout the other two that you mentioned so im redoing the first oen and paying attention

warped dew
#

when u kill the timeline boss

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there's some spirits that spawns in the middle of the arena

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it'll ask u if u want to dream of the past or of the future

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to unlock black sun u dream of the future (lvl 65 timeline)

broken pagoda
#

ohh cool ty

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btw when unlocking empowered mono it changes everything to lvl 100 right?

warped dew
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ye

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but same monos i believe

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except they're harder

broken pagoda
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in that case is there any difference at all which mono you do?

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after?

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like they are all lvl 100

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are they all the same? is there reason at all to do differnet ones?

iron thistle
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Boss drops and monolith specific unique/set rewards.

warped dew
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blessings are also empowered

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they give the same bonuses, but higher%

iron thistle
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Oh right, new blessings.

warped dew
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anyone has any idea on how to get Omnis from Orobyss ? I read somewhere on the forum that you need to get a minimal of 300 corruption

iron thistle
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I think Mike said it's somewhere above 200 after the change from current fight?

broken pagoda
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ohh so some uniques can only drop in specific mono?

warped dew
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bruh

broken pagoda
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even if they are not boss specific?

warped dew
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that's a lot

iron thistle
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Each monolith has a specific item type that you can get set/unique rewards from.

broken pagoda
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i see

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where can i find list that show in which mono it drops?

iron thistle
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Like the Fall of the Outcasts has some nodes that are set/unique bows and quivers.

warped dew
broken pagoda
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thanks

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so basically after i open empowered ones and get all blessing

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i just check the item drop and chose the mono where some items i want can drop?

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and farm them?

warped dew
iron thistle
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Those monolith specific nodes also spawn on normal monoliths, just not nearly as often.

warped dew
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exclusive echo rewards

broken pagoda
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so not only unique/set but also

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stats on rare

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are specific for each mono?

warped dew
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do empowered monos give more stability or is it still like 10 and u have to build it up ?

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because u need more stability to unlock quests :x

iron thistle
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They give more, but mods and corruption make it more difficult.

warped dew
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oh ok

iron thistle
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My bladedancer was my first character to hit empowered and it hit a wall pretty quickly.

warped dew
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probably going to happen to me as well

broken pagoda
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guys only uniques/sets are depending on the mono or also nodes on rares?

warped dew
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idk about that

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i'd like to try and make new builds but going through the campaign again is kinda boring

iron thistle
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There is one specific echo reward that gives you a single set or unique item of a subtype based on the monolith you are doing.

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That's it. Entire description.

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Rare not mentioned at all.

broken pagoda
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so rare nodes are just random regardless of mono

iron thistle
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Yup.

broken pagoda
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and theres 1 specific item that is for 1 specific mono?

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or its 1 for each mono?

woeful parcel
iron thistle
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Sorta. If you look at the link previously, each timeline has a specific item type associated with it. Sometimes it's more than one item type.

woeful parcel
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Wasn't aware of this either

copper fable
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its split about in bits, so like reign of dragons has unique/set maces, axes, swords, daggers all in it. Axes and maces are their own nodes, and swords and daggers are a different node

iron thistle
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That is ONLY for the specific echo reward that grants specifically a set or unique item of that category.

woeful parcel
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Ohh that's Wht that means!

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Okay

copper fable
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you wont find them very often before empowered, but once in empowered you see them a lot more and you will understand what it means

iron thistle
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Yeah. I only found a handful in my monolith runs up until empowered and then I found like 8 of them before I got enough stability for the 3rs quest of my first empowered monolith.

broken pagoda
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i see

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thanks

brittle atlas
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Eventually you get to where you're able to do the boss every 10 echoes or so

iron thistle
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The specific item drop per monolith was their replacement for being able to gamble set and unique items.

broken pagoda
warped dew
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ok thanks good to know

broken pagoda
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i think that gamble unique is bad

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so good they removed them

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as for specific

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id rather if they had a chance to drop anywjere unless they are boss specific uniques but increaed chance in some mono

brittle atlas
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that's how it is now

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unless it's a boss drop, it's a global

iron thistle
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That's basically what it is. Except instead of RNG, it's an echo reward.

brittle atlas
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and then certain monos let you target specific item types/slots

warped dew
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I guess dreamthorn only drop in empowered tho

brittle atlas
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dreamthorn is a low level unique and can drop anywhere

warped dew
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same as smoke weaver?

iron thistle
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Nope. Drops anywhere.

warped dew
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I never seen it

iron thistle
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Smoke Weaver also drops anywhere.

brittle atlas
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smokeweaver can also drop anywhere that's high enough level to drop it

broken pagoda
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i see

warped dew
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bruh my luck is just garbage then

brittle atlas
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smokeweaver is a bit more rare due to being a mid level unique on a level 1 base

broken pagoda
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so all the uniques that are for specific mono are boss drop from the mono boss?

brittle atlas
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but dreamthorn is super common

warped dew
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well my luck must be garbage

brittle atlas
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Yes, each boss has 4 specific drops

warped dew
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cuz dreamthorn never dropped for me

broken pagoda
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ohh thats cool

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and are the echo web reset boss

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also have specific drop?

brittle atlas
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yeah

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shade of orobyss has 5 drops

broken pagoda
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and hes same for for all monos?

brittle atlas
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yep

broken pagoda
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i see so far i got ring from him every time and boots that reduce cooldown

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and 1 more thing for got

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what

brittle atlas
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ring is the most common drop by a huge margin

warped dew
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nah he's no the same every time

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yeah

brittle atlas
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in normal he can drop boots

warped dew
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I fought him a good dozen of times

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only ring

brittle atlas
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in empowered he can drop ring, boots, belt, axe, and amulet

warped dew
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dropped boots once

broken pagoda
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i see

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thats cool

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to be honest i think they should make that echo more common i enjoy boss fight in this game

warped dew
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same

broken pagoda
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but getting stability for mono boss takes forever

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like entire day almost

brittle atlas
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orobyss is more common the further you get from center

warped dew
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yeah but fight him once and you're good to redo the web

brittle atlas
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the further you are from center improves his drops too

iron thistle
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Yeah, just go in a line from the middle and it will be everywhere.

broken pagoda
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but once you do it you are back to center

brittle atlas
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sure, but resetting the web is fine

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if you're pushing up corruption

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that's the loop

broken pagoda
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i wish to find him more often

brittle atlas
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push out to a +12 or so corruption orobyss

broken pagoda
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and not have to do endless of echos

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before i can find boss

brittle atlas
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I mean...you can find him within like 5-7 of center

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it's just gonna give you negative corruption

warped dew
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idk if i want to farm orobyss tho

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200 minimal corruption to get the amulet sheesh

brittle atlas
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200 corruption is like

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maybe 4 hours?

broken pagoda
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overall id like to ahve easier time to get to fight bosses

brittle atlas
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of pushing up

broken pagoda
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maybe they should reduce the stability required for second time

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and futher

brittle atlas
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the higher corruption you go the easier it is

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and faster

broken pagoda
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like after you complete it once reduce stability

brittle atlas
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it takes me like 20 minutes tops to get enough stability to fight a boss

broken pagoda
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i see

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something to look forward to then

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right now it takes almost the whole day to get the 650 stability

warped dew
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rly?

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then you're doing something wrong

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took me a good hour to get to 650

brittle atlas
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there's 800 stability in 17 minutes

broken pagoda
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i believe you

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im not ther eyet

near inlet
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What does increasing a minions size do? I couldn't find it on the wiki, I might be dumb

brittle atlas
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it makes their hit box bigger

broken pagoda
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id like to see more echos that are boss

brittle atlas
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and gives a slight boost to melee range

broken pagoda
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like the reset

iron thistle
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Also makes them thicc.

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Look at them raptor thighs after a few size increases.

near inlet
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So its kind of a bad thing?

warped dew
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the modifiers omg

brittle atlas
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it's mostly a flavor/cosmetic thing tacked onto other nodes

warped dew
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i don't think my blademancer is going to achieve such stupid ammount of modifiers

brittle atlas
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increased damage mods are the only remotely threatening ones tbh

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everything else is pretty safe/free

iron thistle
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Ooooh, something I've suspected but haven't tried to confirm yet. Does higher level and/or item rarity increase the odds of rolling higher on tier values? So far all the unique and set items I've dropped seem to have better rolls if I get them in higher level monoliths.

brittle atlas
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no impact on set/unique rolls

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but it does increase the total tiers on rares

iron thistle
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Just coincidence then.

warped dew
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aha

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formoSUS

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2 more monos and i'm into empowered

brittle atlas
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I killed formosus a few times for the boots and haven't done him again since