❔┃ask-the-community

[junior stirrup]

Or is it wrong?

[sleek salmon]

all of them or a specific one

[junior stirrup]

By tooltip i mean dps tip

Sry

As i understand there is no way for now to see detailed information in skill like on poe?

[sleek salmon]

not that I know off

on my vengeance void knight i believe the tooltip was showing correctly though

[junior stirrup]

Things like +5 flurry crit chance requires manual calculations

[sleek salmon]

ah i see, im not sure about that

as for the stats what you said earlier

you can get crit chance on rings, crit multiplier on your amulet and relic (weps too but idk if this is good, havent played bladedancer), armor shred on idols/gloves

you cant build every stat on every item so you get those stats on different items that are able to get them

not entirely sure whats the best for you to get right now but whichever comes first on a good piece of gear

[brittle atlas]

You have to take points in it to get to the increased poison damage node after it

For a melee build, you almost always want flat damage as one of your prefixes on your weapons

for rogue...your second could be crit multi or attack speed, a second flat damage roll...

increased damage maybe but I think it'd probably be the least valuable for rogue

rogue has a lot of sources of increased damage already via gear/passives/idols

[sleek salmon]

@brittle atlas ye im following your build, theres an idol that has the same effect as the node that a guide by dread uses

was wondering if it was worth taking health on that affix slot, since idk how much impact plague increase has

[brittle atlas]

I have slightly updated the skills/passive trees since dread made his video. https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/3ApknxoE

[junior stirrup]

Glancing blow seems better then dodge

[brittle atlas]

you can quite easily get both on blade dancer

using 2x sword

[sleek salmon]

ah thanks, the staff isnt bis anymore?

[brittle atlas]

the staff is bis unless you manage to find a t7 poison chance chitin dagger

the staff is still slightly more damage than that, even

but you give up some damage and get to wear a shield for a big defense boost

[sleek salmon]

found a 212% bad boy earlier today

[brittle atlas]

sick

that's huge

[sleek salmon]

thing was a giant boost from my 105% one

dummy stacked up to 4m

[junior stirrup]

For phys flurry blade dancer 2x sword better then sword and dagger?

[brittle atlas]

it's very likely you don't need the increased crit on something like flurry

due to the high attack speed

you should stack crit vuln very fast

which reduces the amount of crit you need by quite a lot

[junior stirrup]

So taking crit multi instead of chance is better option?

[brittle atlas]

on gear? you might still need crit chance on like...

gloves/rings?

maybe the crit chance relic

but for affixes your weapons, 2x katana with flat phys and multi or attack speed is probably good

[sleek salmon]

whats the better idol choice, for 1x3, double chance on poison or the transplant poison combi

[junior stirrup]

thx

[sleek salmon]

or do you specifically want one of each

[brittle atlas]

I use one of each because the CDR reduction is super small from using another CDR idol

like it doesn't even show in the tooltip due to rounding

[sleek salmon]

yeah, I was testing around, I found an idol with transform dmg and physical res% allowing me to skip a physical affix somewhere on my gear, not sure if thats worth tho

[junior stirrup]

Phys penetration would be good option to have?

[brittle atlas]

yes. penetration is great

[sleek salmon]

might be worth it to go for a physical res% one and then 2 1x3 with transplant cd

[brittle atlas]

Yeah, if you're not using the dagger/shield setup, you can just get the phys res blessing from hereot

[sleek salmon]

what differnece is there for phys res with a shield/1h rather than the staff

[brittle atlas]

you don't care about the block effectiveness blessing if you're using a staff

[junior stirrup]

This doesn't work with this?

[brittle atlas]

you'd have 100% glancing blow in most cases regardless if you take apostacy

[sleek salmon]

I meant more like, running 1x transplant on 1x4, 2x transplant on 1x3 and then having a 1x4 with phys res to open up an affix slot on gear somewhere

[brittle atlas]

otherwise, yeah, you can't dodge if you take apostacy

oh, I don't think you can lose a 1x4 CDR idol

or rather, you don't want to sacrifice transplant CDR to get another health or endurance threshold roll

[junior stirrup]

Argent veil works with apostacy you can dodge one hit by using it

[brittle atlas]

that seems odd

but I wouldn't take apostacy in most cases

since you can cap glancing blow without it using 2x swords on a melee build quite easily

and still get plenty of dodge otherwise

[sleek salmon]

yeah wasnt sure if it was worth it, just happened to find one before a second transplant + transform one so been using it for now

[wary shoal]

i think it actually states it somewhere it the description aswell

[brittle atlas]

Apostacy does in fact say as such in its expanded tooltip

[thorny mulch]

Hey! So i bought the game from Steam, however i cannot log in even after creating an account, it says account is not valid aka not purchased the game

[frosty mirage]

I tried to look up on the forums but couldn't find anything, is it expected that totems do not work with the minion attack button, such as on the training dummy? While I have not done single-target testing, it does seem as though they have an auto-target AI, possibly based on distance from totem

[brittle atlas]

Yeah, totems (and other stuff like vines from spriggan) do not target the dummy, as it's not a hostile enemy

totems in particular I don't think specifically target enemies, as much as they cast their abilities when a hostile unit is within range

[thorny mulch]

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[frosty mirage]

That makes sense when considering you can create and reduce thorn totem's area of attack into an arc, thanks for the info!

[tender marsh]

What's snapshotting?

[brittle atlas]

snapshotting means that an effect will remember your stats when it's cast/activated and won't dynamically update as your stats change

it takes a "snapshot" of your stats

I believe that EHG is intending to fix/remove most forms of snapshotting in the future, though.

Currently there are a few things you can really abuse it with

[tender marsh]

Can I snapshot the unique that makes werebear white just for the visual effect?

[brittle atlas]

Yes

I believe it snapshots all of the stats on the chest

related to werebear form, that is

[tender marsh]

So if I snapshot it, I will get stats from both the unique and the current chest I changed to?

[brittle atlas]

yes

you'd get the melee cold damage, the increased mana costs, and the 2 mana on kill

from the unique

and the white fur visual effect

[tender marsh]

I just want the visual effect lol. Wish transmog was avaible already

[terse roost]

wait thats kinda nuts

just gambled for it, time to try lol

[fast otter]

Greetings^^

i have a couple questions regarding the Supporter packs, anyone knows what channel to ask that in?

[wary shoal]

its not the completly wrong channel

so ask away

[brave ibex]

Are there any melee cold skills apart from Shatter Strike?

[snow spruce]

Tempest Strike and Surge as well

[junior stirrup]

WTF

adding this amulet:

Ah

It was bug

On first try it reduced dps

[reef jewel]

I'm at a complete loss for what to do next or even where to go.

[junior stirrup]

Go trough bridge

To the right

[sleek salmon]

do reduced health drain nodes work against the reaper form drain too?

[reef jewel]

how do i view my total stats? i'm trying to see my total defense so I can compare how much individual pieces give me but I don't see anything on the character screen.

[terse roost]

what do you mean "total defense"

[reef jewel]

its pretty self explanatory i think. all of my defense totalled up in one number

i mean, how would that even be confusing?

[terse roost]

because ive never seen an arpg do that

[reef jewel]

where are all my stats?

thats all im asking

[terse roost]

in the character sheet?

press C

and it shows everything

[reef jewel]

you mean this?

that shows me none of my stats

[terse roost]

no, its on the left

[reef jewel]

thats all there is

i press 'C' and thats what comes up

[terse roost]

relog maybe? thers a screen that should come up on the left

[reef jewel]

that is exactly what comes up when i press c, which is bound to my character sheet

[terse roost]

should look like this

[reef jewel]

what keybinding is that? what does it say in the keybindings?

[reef jewel]

:/

i have no idea why that isnt coming up

[terse roost]

idk, would try restarting game. if that doesnt work trying rebinding it to something else

[reef jewel]

it was doing this last night too

i press q for quests and that doesnt come up either

[terse roost]

i have qwer for skills so idk about that one

[reef jewel]

This is the second time I've seen this happen. I see an item and it won't let me pick it up. I have loot filters disabled.

does this happen to anyone else?

[snow spruce]

I think you can press "z" or "x" one is for loot filters and the other disables item labels entirely? I think?

[reef jewel]

i have loot filters disabled

[brittle atlas]

ye, try Z

Z toggles labels

X toggles filter rules

[reef jewel]

whats the keybinding you're referring to for Z? I've changed my keybindings

[brittle atlas]

"toggle tooltips for items on ground"

[reef jewel]

im hitting Y, and it says in loot filter disabled, quickly followed by loot filter enabled

its not toggling

[brittle atlas]

that's normally what is bound to X

which is the filter toggle, not the labels toggle

[reef jewel]

i dont see any labels toggle in the keybindings

[brittle atlas]

the chat output for what is normally bound to Z is "ground item tooltips hidden" and "ground item tooltips visible"

"toggle tooltips for items on ground" is the name of the keybind

[reef jewel]

ok

that did it, thank you

ah ok, its the trigger edges. When i hold down Y, it disables the loot filter, when i release it, it puts the loot filter back up

[west star]

where to see all the side quests to give passive points

😄

[random dock]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/quests

[west star]

oh cool ty

[brave ibex]

Is there any difference between lets say 200% inc physical damage vs 100% inc phys + 100% inc DoT? In terms of how much bleed dmg that gets

[snow spruce]

If its 100% increased DoT damage, then no there isn't a difference.

[brave ibex]

Cool, I've been stacking phys% on a bleed build and just wanted to know if there is a reason to mix in some DoT% as well

[opaque vigil]

For the blessing from Fall of the Outcasts, would you guys say idol drop rate is good?

[brittle atlas]

I'd go xp or gold drop pretty much always

[magic ravine]

hi everyone

is normal that the loot ( i play with a melee rogue for example ) that drops is always mostly for a different class? I observed the same wiht my nigro

[reef jewel]

where do i go to level @ level 29?

[terse roost]

the story

[brittle atlas]

This, continue the storyline

[reef jewel]

ok

so that takes me to an area that is lvl 55 and i get wrecked

im lvl 29

[brittle atlas]

Go up to the area where you did your mastery quest

you're not meant to go into monoliths yet

there's still a significant portion of the story left

unless you really did some speedrun strats

and killed lagon at 29

[reef jewel]

that is my only active quest

im not sure what story you are referring to

[brittle atlas]

Go up to where you did your mastery quest

Elder Gaspar up there should lead you to the imperial era

https://streamable.com/kjya17

[reef jewel]

ok, thank you

[warm cedar]

i got 50 bucks and imma buy last epoch but before i do i have a question, how deep is the endgame

also, does this game ever go on sale? I would prefer to spend less than 35 dollars on the game

although it looks like its worth it

also also if i buy from the site do i get a key or a downlaod?

[brittle atlas]

The currently implemented endgame systems are:

The arena- endless waves, more difficult per waves, has a leaderboard that tracks the highest waves for sc/hc/ssf

Monolith- In each timeline, you start at the center of a web of nodes, venturing out and choosing which nodes you want to run based on their modifiers and rewards. Each node you complete builds up "stability", at certain stability thresholds you can do "quest echoes" which culminate in the timeline specific boss. Each in each timeline has specific boss-only unique item drops and you get a choice between three blessings from a pool of many. Blessings are passive buffs to stats or your chances to get certain types of drops. Beating the boss unlocks the next, higher level, timelines from levels 55 to 90. After beating the three level 90 timelines, you can do all timelines at zone level 100. The level 100 versions have additional exclusive drops and higher powered blessings. You can also find the "shade of orobyss" in timelines, which will reset your current web (but keep your stability) to give you corruption. Corruption increases the magnitude of modifiers on nodes, increases enemy damage and hp, but also increases your loot and xp rewards and the rate that you gain stability. In normal monoliths, corruption is capped at 50. In empowered level 100 monoliths, it starts at 100 and has no cap, so you can continually push up your corruption to improve rewards and increase the challenge.

The game sometimes goes on sale, but definitely not often.

Regardless of it you on the site or steam, you can play through either.

There is a standalone client if you don't want to use steam.

[warm cedar]

holy crap! THank you for all the responses! Sorry to have a bunch of questions but how much time do you think i can spend in the endgame on one singular character?

also is ther any cross-character progression?

like having one main and then "funding" others by getting items and gear

[brittle atlas]

The only cross-character stuff at the moment is your stash and crafting items

so you can definitely find/make gear for a new character via an existing one

As far as time spent on a single character...if you care to push corruption or arena it can be a lot. I've put in a couple hundred hours this patch playing primarily one character and occasionally trying others.

[reef jewel]

any early access game is going to be a gamble. always. i've read too many stories of a developer just abandoning a game part way through development. that being said, this game does have a roadmap and there are regular updates. just realize that its going to be a roll of the dice any time you buy an early access game.

[brittle atlas]

For your first play through, getting a character to level 100 will probably take...50-60 hours if you even get there

Assuming you stick to one character all the way to 100, that is

[warm cedar]

so theres progression past level 100?

[brittle atlas]

There's no like character power progression past 100 except getting better gear/blessings

there's no like paragon level system or anything

But if you're pushing arena leaderboard or corruption you'll hit 100 relatively early in that process

[warm cedar]

okay, thanks for all the info!

ill try and buy it as soon as possible

[patent cloak]

how do i spawn shade of orobyss?

[brittle atlas]

He spawns semi-randomly in timelines

but is more likely to show up the further you are from the center

and will give more corruption the further out you are too

there can be many, many shade spawns in any given timeline

[patent cloak]

is it one of those reset echo ?

[brittle atlas]

You need to kill the shade to reset your web, yeah

[patent cloak]

but i always see "frost" shade

or different type

[brittle atlas]

the type of shade is random

[patent cloak]

o

[brittle atlas]

and his abilities pull from a pool of like

36?

[patent cloak]

so any of those shades can drop omnis?

[brittle atlas]

yup

[patent cloak]

just really rare?

[brittle atlas]

you need to be over 200 corruption

[patent cloak]

thank you

[brittle atlas]

and it gets more common the higher your corruption is and the further from center you are

But even then, it's rare

[patent cloak]

okay got it

tthank you

[tight kernel]

does modifier's increase rarity help in blessings farming?

[low root]

What is nearby?

[brittle atlas]

no

[brittle atlas]

the ring around the dummy in end of time

[low root]

Ty

[acoustic thicket]

dunno what build i wanna go, what recommend

[opaque vigil]

So many choices. 🤯

[acoustic thicket]

and i dunnow here to start aha

[opaque vigil]

I think mage is the best starting class but that's just my opinion.

[tight kernel]

i started with a range character and it helped me avoid alot more deaths as i learned how mobs fight

i'm on my 3rd character and 1st melee... i died alot more in the beginning just by being so close to mob

i didn't need to pay attention to how melee mobs fight in the past because i was at rage

[opaque vigil]

I feel like Sentinel is pretty safe to start melee, as long as you stick to Vengeance.

[tight kernel]

hehe interestingly i never played vengeance when i started my senti, perhaps why i struggled

i used rive and warpath

but now erasing strike vk

[opaque vigil]

Yeah, Rive early on can be risky. My very first char was Vengeance Sentinel into Erasing Strike, and early on felt very safe.

But getting more into VK, VK always feels like a melee glass cannon to me. 😄

[tight kernel]

yeah i love erasing strike

[opaque vigil]

Same! Just love VK in general

Erasing strike, volatile reversal, anomaly

[tight kernel]

lunge and devouring orb for my remaining 2, you?

i'm using apathy's maw to apply doom and armor shred with the orbs

[opaque vigil]

i think my last VK build (now deleted lol) was those and lunge and uhh

oh god what did i use

ah just vengeance i think

but i heard sigils are very good due to damage increases

[tight kernel]

sigils or orb works

but i'm using the crit multi node on VK so i kept all my passive points in VK and only 20 in senti

[thin canopy]

so beside increasing vid card and hope for LE to get vid requirement lowered anythign i can do to avoid cid crashing ?

i already addapted the vid software itself to play nice with LE qua fan mods

[opaque vigil]

They usually recommend using streamer mode, if you're not doing that yet

[thin canopy]

k 1 st time i hear about that , where can that be set .. in radeon aswell ?

[opaque vigil]

It's somewhere in LE settings

either graphsics or video or general or w/e

Sorry, I gotta actually go do work now so perhaps someone else knows things. 😄

[thin canopy]

k will check in LE

[dusty escarp]

yes streamer mode is setting in LE, I often see it suggested so hopefully it will help ya!

[sonic nimbus]

Dunno about sentinel..Acolyte play style more my jam

Would like to start one though

[tight kernel]

my necro is stuck at level 85... i feel like i need to be part of the action or i get bored lol

and with 8.3 going laidback summoner style, it's gonna be even tougher for me

[thin canopy]

activated streamer and set lots from high to medium aswell increased power tofans in vid system , and maybe taking breaks in between the jump portals so vid can cool off for 10-20 mins

wonder how the 3th acolyte class will look and the 3 th rogue

and ofc mage

[dusty escarp]

is it possible to have custom drop sounds to go with loot filter?

[knotty hinge]

No

[acoustic thicket]

Is there a good place to farm specific items

[tight kernel]

monolith

[terse roost]

thats super non-specific. like specific affixes? just nodes that have gear that can roll them. There are certain uniques that only drop from bosses, so have to farm the bosses for them

[raven patrol]

hi guys ive just started with a necro and want to play around with skeletons, i assume theres mods on items to get more skeletons and stuff?

[terse roost]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/search?query=skeleton&in_description=1&exact_match=0

yup

[acoustic thicket]

@terse roost thank you! How does the filter work.? Will it only drop items that I have set the filter to? Or does it just highlight items on the ground that drop that I want

[random dock]

only highlights the items you are looking for

[acoustic thicket]

Thank you .. I'll have to watch a YouTube video on how to set the filters hahaha

[fair talon]

would you guys bother building crit for a down time skill

[terse roost]

wouldnt the skill having a cd mean you need it to hit even harder?

[fair talon]

yeah but my main skill meteor is gonna crit anyway without investment

so I only need to build crit multi

and I was trying to figure out if I should build crit for fireballs when I'm not using meteor or don't bother

[terse roost]

prob not

[fair talon]

because for clearing trash I will probably just use fireball

since meteor is overkill

and is not really a trash clearing skill

[fair talon]

so I didn't actually think this through, how hard would it be to get 400 mana

though doing some basic gearing on letools it seems like I might be able to get 400 easily around level 70 even without sapphire rings

[brave ibex]

Is there any way we can see time played on any 1 character?

[raven patrol]

how do i know which quests to do/dont do?

some give passive points and some just xp

[random dock]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/quests

[trim heath]

Not yet, no.

[raven patrol]

is it possible to remove other mods from an item?

and craft new ones

[raw fern]

Yes, check these runes: https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/category/runes/items

[brave ibex]

So block/glancing blow/armor works vs hits only, endurance works against everything, correct?

[brittle atlas]

correct

[fair talon]

do you guys bother getting block chance on a no shield build?

is it worth it

[brittle atlas]

no

[acoustic thicket]

Currently rocking a 52 rouge testing out different skills loving it... Any advice on a second character that is fun to build and play around with

?

[brittle atlas]

my personal favorite has been lich on the acolyte

transplant + reaper form + death seal is such a great feeling combo

[acoustic thicket]

Nice! I'll have to look up the skills and see what that entails

[raven patrol]

How do resistances work will I end up capping all of them? Will I need to swap gear for x monster type etc

Right now im in campaign and getting shredded by necrotic types

[terse roost]

the game guide should explain how they work pretty well. just press G in game.

and yes you will cap them at end game, fairly easily

[dark fox]

You would barely need to swap gear, since you can craft res on almost everything and a large part comes from passive skills as well. There is also elemental res to cover 3 of them, and poison res isn't that important, since most poison damage comes from ground effects.

Physical is always useful against hitters though.

[raven patrol]

Thanks! This was what I was looking for so necrotic void res should mainly be crafted on items

Is that correct?

Im around level 40 and haven't really being paying attention to necrotic res its like 15% lol

[dark fox]

Yeah, and you don't even need high tier. You will upgrade your items constantly and you can focus on one or two at a time. Like in the beginning you need void, then as you get to Welryn, necrotic guys come out

but most starter passive skills give good chunks of res anyways

[raven patrol]

Thanks for the help ill try and craft some new gear with necrotic res

[dark fox]

You can also use the forge with runes of shattering to get res shards, if you'd run out of them

[raven patrol]

What are runes of shattering?

Is that like taking the mod from items I find?

To get more scrolls?

I've kinda not really done much crafting

[dark fox]

Consumable. It destroys an item and gives back mod shards based on what the item has

[raven patrol]

I see yeah thought it was I took a quick look at the runes etc

So if I add items with ele res to my filter

I can break them down? For scrolls

[dark fox]

shards give mods. Runes and glyphs influence crafting

you can use shards to grant an affix or upgrade its tier. Like, you can use necrotic res shards to get necrotic res or if it exists, a better tier

[raven patrol]

Yeah and it adds instability to the item or something?

Each time I craft

[dark fox]

yeah, higher instability = higher chance of breaking

[raven patrol]

And there's different breaks?

[dark fox]

minor fracture stops crafting, higher decreases mod tiers too

you can mitigate it with glyphs (guardian reduces break chance, stability adds less with the craft)

[raven patrol]

Sweet, thanks for the help definitely gonna toy around with crafting for a bit

Just trying out different abilities atm seeing which ones I enjoy the most

It feels very much like I'll have clear skills single target etc

[dark fox]

use the in-game guide for details, crafting shouldn't be high concern until endgame anyway

as you get better bases as you progress

[raven patrol]

What's the max points you can have in each skill?

[dark fox]

most abilities have aoe augments

[dark fox]

20, but there are mods that give more

[raven patrol]

Mods on gear?

Game just keeps throwing new skills at me lol, keep trying different things

[dark fox]

yeah. Helmets, relics and some body armour. These appear as +1 to Lunge for example

experiment as you wish, respec isn't lethal, as you get back your points faster up to a certain point

[raven patrol]

Yeah the higher level I am the more minimum points right?

[dark fox]

by experience, yes

[last current]

Is there a way to see a skill's crit chance given all the upgrades / gear I've made to it?

[fair talon]

one time I had a beer drop, is that just an easter egg? do potions have a slight chance to drop with the name beer?

[terse roost]

you cant see skill specific stats

[last current]

Thanks!

[tight kernel]

is forge strike meant to have 2 x attunement scaling?

[brittle atlas]

I think one is scaling for the skill itself and the other is scaling for the minions?

[tight kernel]

makes sense

thanks

[candid lark]

Hi, how would I calculate EHP DR for Crit avoidance? Trying to get a sense (via Tunk EHP calc), how much effective HP I have, and crit avoidance is something I have a hard time figuring out.

I need to factor in:

• enemy crit chance
• enemy crit multiplier
• my crit avoidance

[raven patrol]

last night i was playing a HC character and got to around 45 - i teleported to an old location to finish a quest and on teleporting my character instantly died 600hp gone

death re-cap said it was a physical hit from a monster with 0 monsters around, is this a known bug?

it was also an area around monster level 25 or something

[sleek salmon]

do arena scores get uploaded automatically

[knotty hinge]

yes

[lone flume]

is Void DoT from Abyssal Echoes stackable?

[tight kernel]

is there a way to test stun on dummy? like how do i tell i stunned it?

[wary shoal]

if it doesnt fight back?

[tight kernel]

LOL

dummy fights back?

[brittle atlas]

if you can stun the dummy, you'll see the stun swirl over its head

[fair talon]

anyone feels like helping me out again on passives? because my god do I suck at them

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/WQJvEYQe I know I'm wasting points somewhere but idk where

[trim heath]

I think most of the time it's really useful to build at level 85 and then decide the last few when you are at that level and have a feel for the character

[fair talon]

yeah that's not a bad point

I definitely feel like I put too many points somewhere though, maybe I don't need sigils

[void fractal]

does putting emphasize on one rule and recolor on another do both effects for an item that meets both requirements?

[brittle atlas]

You can do both in a single rule

oh

no

it would prioritize the highest rule

from top to bottom

[void fractal]

yeah i know you could do both, was wondering if i could do something like emphasize certain bases and recolor if they had affixes, without having to make a third rule

ok

[sinful ether]

how is the paladin in this game?

[brittle atlas]

In what regard?

[sinful ether]

overall power level

[brittle atlas]

Great. Paladin is in a really good spot at the moment. Probably the best sentinel mastery overall. It can get 100% block pretty easily, tons of block effect, and can be built in a variety of ways.

[sinful ether]

what builds would you recommend? i keep seeing shield throw but that's not really the playstyle im looking for

[brittle atlas]

Shield Throw and Hammers with Smite are both quite good. Bleed Warpath, Crit Warpath, Cast on Hit Warpath, self-cast Smite, Rive and Vengeance could both be melee options.

[sinful ether]

thanks! i just got the game. warpath is cool, gonna check out the others

[woeful comet]

If this is the Last Epoch...
... then what is the First Epoch?

[dark fox]

Perhaps there had been other Epochs that got lost long ago, or the Epoch has been reformed by us for the last time as of now.

[candid copper]

Hey y'all, before I submit a bug report I wanted to check if it is commonly known: I have not played in a while, but I used to have a couple cosmetic pets (including one kickstarter reward). Now when I hop on a character it says everything is not owned. I can see the cosmetic shop is not implemented, and if this is part of that no worries.

[stone gust]

anyone who can tell me what BE and AG stand for? 😛

[fair talon]

so do I have 100% chance to stun or there is a base stun chance, doesn't seem to have one

[brave ibex]

How do you get 100% block?

[brittle atlas]

A combination of some/all of Sigils, Shield Bash, a well rolled shield, various sources of block % from the tree/passives

[brave ibex]

Ah Shield Bash, right. I'm at 79% with everything else, wondering if I was missing something big

[fair talon]

It feels like I have nearly 100% stun chance but I can't tell

I also don't know if the 100% extra stun chance is calculated into the character sheet screen or not

[tight kernel]

ain't that good enough to block everything

[brave ibex]

Yeah it's good enough

[tight kernel]

does hitting 0 enemies refund mana lol

[acoustic thicket]

I do 111k dmg just before that 😉

108 135

[wanton jasper]

https://i.gyazo.com/877207ab44ec2b8fcc68c3d68fb9ed88.mp4

foe novaboy

500k xD

549k

[snow spruce]

No you do not

That is plugged into a formula similar to Freeze to determine if a hit stuns the enemy. https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/community-game-guide/26057/8

[fair talon]

yeah, just that the formula is a bit weird

because you cant actually calculate it unless you know the enemy health

[acoustic thicket]

whaou i'm so bad ....

but i do that dps whitout dungeon after end of time because I can't spaawn the boss in dungeon 62 .... fak

[acoustic thicket]

how it's possible ????!

[brittle atlas]

poison lich is good at making a big number on the dummy

[candid copper]

Replying to self: They are once again available. I'll chalk this up to intermittent beta-ness.

[icy dome]

what are the really fun builds rn? I've been thinking about rolling a spin to win but idk if i should just wait for next patch?

[candid copper]

Fun is subjective, but I am enjoying Cinder Strike Blade Dancer ~lv68 right now.

[cold plaza]

if you haven't tried volcanus warpath paladin, it's a fun way to spin-to-win. sounds like it will have even better support next patch too

[icy dome]

interesting I'll take a look

[late kayak]

Does endurance work with things like exsanguinous?

[dusty dust]

endurance does not work for damage to your ward

[lament nest]

Hello guys, do you know how to compare rings? when I click "ctrl" it compares with the left ring, but how do I compare with the second ring?

[native tinsel]

for the lightning blast passive shattershock, does it cap at 60% or 120% damage against a chilled and shocked enemy?

[raw bone]

how do I get access to support chat please? LE-13 error doesn't go away after re-install

[random dock]

https://support.lastepoch.com/hc/en-us

[raw bone]

@random dock thanks, but I can't log in using my credentials to that website for some reason. I can log in to the normal website, but not that one

[random dock]

oh no you dont sign into the support site

click where it says "submit a request" then fill out the form

[brave ibex]

Does Chill work at 100% effectiveness vs bosses?

[tall kiln]

I have steam cloud linked to the game but all my chars have disappeared along with the loot in the chest, as their been a wipe also I have looked on the support site but nothing helped

[brittle atlas]

Probably an issue with steam cloud corrupting your saves or something. I'd try moving your save files out of the folder and see if steam will repopulate it for you

can also try checking the backups

[inland tapir]

does "increased elemental damage" on a weapon increase the damage of fire aura?

[brittle atlas]

Yes

All affixes are global

Elemental is fire, cold, and lightning

[inland tapir]

got it - thank you!

[inland tapir]

can you clarify what you mean by this? like, the affix doesn't just apply to the weapon, but to all skills is what i'm assuming?

[brittle atlas]

Yes, all affixes on all gear apply to your character itself, rather than modifying only that piece of gear

So regardless of where you have elemental damage or some other stat it’s the same thing

Weapon, ring, relic, etc. the stats are applied the same

[inland tapir]

makes sense, thank you!

[elder gate]

Can someone tell me if this too strict ?
https://pastebin.com/yecGez15

Thanks :3

it's an avalanche + tornado build with warcry , ice thorns and thorn totem

currently lvl 73

Unless i terribly misunderstood something about how filters work in this game lmao and i have to scratch it

[oak skiff]

Does the Sanctum Bastille boss still drop Exsanguinous? Or did they kind of tinkered with the boss drop tables?

like kill boss, TP, go back in repeat

[terse roost]

its not a boss drop, its just a random level 23 drop

people farm that area because its only level 24 so it removes all the higher ilvl items from the pool

[oak skiff]

so just pure RNG.. ok

[terse roost]

honestly i prob wouldnt even bother with it. just run monos and go for all the unique nodes

get blessings for unique and chest drop chance

[oak skiff]

i've done some of that.. just been doing sanctum for a change of scene

i've been bouncing back between the 2

[brittle atlas]

Yeah, I’d just do monos

You get a ton of extra rarity in empowered especially

I’ve found like 15 exsangs this patch in empowered lol

[glossy pike]

I need help please.

Why can't I go further on choice. It's block with this chain... :(

I don't understand, what to do.

[stone gust]

@glossy pike as far as i can tell you have chosen druid as your mastery not beastmaster. only the mastery you have chosen can go beyond the half way point.

[glossy pike]

Thx allatrona!!!! How can I change that plz?

[stone gust]

you can't. if you want to play as a beastmaster you have to level primalist again and choose it as a mastery.

[glossy pike]

I have to create a new character??????

No other possibility?

[stone gust]

yup

[glossy pike]

Arf.

Too bad!!!! Big mistake.

Thx allatrona

[stone gust]

np

[glossy pike]

Nice from you.

[reef jewel]

Does the chance to gain ward from these idols stack?

[brittle atlas]

Yes

[inland tapir]

any suggestions as to what some good/expected defenses should be for a spellblade (fire aura build, specifically) around level 45ish?

this is my first character, and i'm sure my armor is low (but maybe that's expected since i'm a mage?)

here's what i've got currently:

[brittle atlas]

phys res is the only immediate stand out to me

I would try and get more of that asap

as you get higher in levels (into the 60s and low 70s) you'll start to get access to base types with a lot of resists

specifically stuff like Solarum Greaves and Bone Amulet

otherwise, as you get into monoliths and beyond you'll want to get capped crit avoidance

if you focus on ward, ward retention (mostly via intelligence)

if you go less ward-focused, capped endurance

though later on you might be able to cap endurance without much item investment either way

[inland tapir]

got it, thank you!

[fair talon]

can you build marrow shards for physical as main damage not using minions cuz it kinda interests me for my next build

[fair talon]

I'm gonna try it

[junior narwhal]

NM did a test to find out

nm did a test to find out

[junior narwhal]

when wolves and sabres scale off strength, but their howl and swipy thing scale off attunement, which stat should I pick or should I balance both?

[brittle atlas]

strength scales their damage and hp, right?

does attunement do the same? or only scale their abilities

[junior narwhal]

only their abilities

[brittle atlas]

sounds like strength would be the priority to me then

without hp scaling they'll end up as paper later on

and strength is the better attribute for you as well in most cases

[junior narwhal]

tags for 'summon wolf' = minion, companion, strength (minion tags are physical, melee' but their 'howl' ability tags are spell, buff, instant cast and attunement

similar for sabre tooth

now, obviously I'm going to scale minion

but the stat?

okay

thank you for your help :)

[warm gale]

so if i add flat damage to an ability thats not 'local' (from tree only?) that damage isn't able to crit? am i reading the combat calculations right on the wiki for damage? https://lastepoch.fandom.com/wiki/Combat_Calculations

[oak skiff]

I got a question about Unique Rings and amulets, can Xithara's Conundrum show up as another base item other than Ruby Amulet... same would go for other rings and amulet.. I was led to believe that they can but couldnt really find anything about it

[terse roost]

no, they dont change

[oak skiff]

I see, thanks !

[pallid arch]

So I'm crashing about once an hour on Last Epoch. Driving me nuts because its pretty unplayable with so frequent crashes. I've tested all different settings all the way down to thr lowest and still no fix. I have a 2070 super and beefy specs on my pc and don't crash in any other game even on ultra. Anyone else have this issues? Maybe know a fix? Id love to play the game more just literally can't =[

[oak skiff]

have you checked your temps before the crash ?

[pallid arch]

I can next time it happens but I don't think that's the issue. Who knows i can still check

Though it typically does happen during monoliths and lots on the screen

[oak skiff]

yea thats why im asking about it... shouldnt make sense that just LE causes your GPU or something to heatup, but might as well check it before going through other troubleshooting steps.

also when you crash.. do you just "exit" to desktop or is it more like computer hangs/black screen etc? whats the behavior or the crash?

depending on how you crash, you might be able to look up the Event Viewer on windows (I am not sure what other equivalents are there for other OS.. I am on windows) to see what kind of information you can obtain and probably contact support or the LE forums

[inland tapir]

is there an easier way to view Flame Aura damage other than opening up the passive tree, selecting a Flame Aura node and holding alt (or ctrl, forgot which one it was)?

[brittle atlas]

Not currently

[pallid arch]

@oak skiff it just hard crashes straight to desktop

[oak skiff]

@pallid arch ok thats good that means an event is normally created in the Event Viewer if you are on windows

[brittle atlas]

LE also has a log iirc, so it's possible that would have some info as well if you post in the support forums

[oak skiff]

you should be able to find an entry about it on either Critical or error.

yea

[tight kernel]

does shield throw's lava burst scale with a scepter's adaptive spell damage?

[brittle atlas]

Yes

[tight kernel]

nice

but ring of shields' aura doesn't

fire aura*

[brittle atlas]

If I remember correctly, ring of shields are minions and they cast that ability, so it uses minion stats instead of yours

[tight kernel]

yeah it does

[pallid arch]

@oak skiff thank you! I'll take a look next time it crashes. Where would I report that log file to?

[oak skiff]

probably to the official forums or other social site (reddit or something)

[warm cedar]

are there usually sales when updates drop

like, when .83 releases will there be a sale?

[brittle atlas]

Typically no, they don't line up with patch releases

though it's possible

[acoustic thicket]

What is it called when your mana goes negative and your skills change colour, some sort of exhaustion? I just need the name so I can google it 🙂

[brittle atlas]

I believe the game just calls it negative mana?

Basically, you can go into mana debt and while you're negative you can only use 0 cost abilities

[acoustic thicket]

Ahh okay, thank you! Ill have a lil look around

[worldly stone]

Lightning Blast can put spark charges on enemies hit at a chance. Does the base crit chance of Lightning Blast work to those as well? Like if I get +3% base crit chance from passives on the skill's tree

[brittle atlas]

no

they have their own 5% base crit

[worldly stone]

So they scale with more damage from the tree, but not the base crit

Strange

[brittle atlas]

They don't seem to scale with more damage from the tree either?

@worldly stone

[tight kernel]

is it built into a paladin to have high spell crit chance?

i removed all my gear and idol and it's still very high

[snow spruce]

Which spell? Is it still specialized? Do you have blessings?

[wheat saddle]

you specced into a passive

[tight kernel]

passive gives +300% crit chance to both spell and throwing att

no blessings at this point

[tight kernel]

oh wait character page does not show throwing crit chance

[lament nest]

Is it possible to reach lvl 100? When does end game start?

[snow spruce]

Yes, and around level 50-55 or so (right now) if you complete the story. You can start the current endgame activities at approximately level 25 to 30 right now (at the end of the 3rd chapter). Next patch I they're adding the 9th chapter to the game, so things may change then.

[lament nest]

Thanks!

[lament nest]

Another question, is there any death penalty?

[oak skiff]

Only in the monolith and some other end game content.. I dont believe there is a death penalty in general;;; but if you die in the monolith, you generally lose out on the node reward

[lament nest]

Ok, thanks!

[hollow socket]

Now before I call it a bug: It seems like sacrifice, if you take the node where it propagates, can pick the same minion to propagate onto multiple times.

Which still only sacrifices it once and results in fewer total detonations.

Did anyone notice that as well?

[brittle atlas]

Sacrifice has indeed been bugged this patch and the chaining node doesn't work properly

It seems to depend on how close you are to the minion you're sacrificing or something?

[hollow socket]

I had the most success aiming it at the center of the minions so it has more options to chain to.

How well did you do with the skill, by the way?

I had trouble finding any good passive and specialization tree nodes to use.

[brittle atlas]

I ended up dropping it due to the mana cost

and went with skeleton mages casting their sacrifice instead

[hollow socket]

I was using marrow shards to use while I was waiting for my mana, and the zombie node that can fire additional shards.

They ended up doing better than sacrifice though, there aren't many sources of added damage to benefit from the 200%.

And those that exist are hard to combine. My best try was a grimoire, since the tree has some phys/necrotic hybrid nodes.

The sacrifice tree itself doesn't have many reliable damage nodes either.

But I'm curious to see if the warlock spec is gonna be better for it.

[wheat owl]

whats the timeline looking like on 8.3?

[terse roost]

bruh

#news

[oak anvil]

Does ward benefit from armor/resistances?

[brittle atlas]

yes

[oak anvil]

Ty

[acoustic thicket]

when we're going to get more info about the new 0.8.3?

[oak anvil]

Would my mana benefit from my resistances/armor?

[brittle atlas]

I believe yes, you take the damage to your mana after all mitigation

except for mitigations that only apply to life

like endurance

[oak anvil]

Is it used in any popular builds?

[brittle atlas]

Not any particularly popular or meta builds, but there are certainly viable and competent builds you can make with it

I believe boardman has covered a few on his youtube

[inland tapir]

what's the best way to check how much "X%" a shard will add on forging? wondering if I'd get more damage putting "X% damage over time" vs "X% elemental damage" on a 2-handed staff

[brittle atlas]

damage over time has higher values slightly

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/prefixes/AAzCcQ

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/prefixes/AAwdgTEA

[inland tapir]

thank you for the links 🙂

out of curiosity, I assume these still fluctuate pretty often with patches? are items frequently retroactively changed when patches are released? or is it usually items moving forwards only are changed?

[brittle atlas]

The values tend to change moreso with scaling on specific slots than being completely changed

though some systems changes have resulted in modifiers changing from prefix to suffix or being changed/removed entirely

though those are almost all defensive things

Typically items are retroactively changed when those happen, though only in the cases where the modifier is changed on a code level

which results in items like this

Some items become legacy because they aren't changed, like

Shields can no longer get % increased hp

[inland tapir]

ah cool, thank you Arborus 🙂

appreciate your help!

[acoustic thicket]

Wait, am I not supposed to be doing Echoes?

[snow spruce]

Why wouldn't you do Echoes?

[acoustic thicket]

cause I saw something about lvl 55 and I'm like lvl 27?

I can kill some of the monsters but they're super hard

but I've run out of quests

[snow spruce]

Oh, well, no, not necessarily, you technically can, but there are 6 more chapters of story before then

In the End of Time, search everywhere. The should be a quest at the top of the stairs to the far left

[acoustic thicket]

Legend thank you!

[brittle atlas]

Yep, when you come back from the mastery quest it should spit you out next to the elder and the forgotten knight up there

[weak hearth]

hi, question, did we have something to go back at the last wave we died on arena ? (like i die at wave 90 and with a key i go back to 85 ?) thx

[versed sable]

Hi guys, i’m wondering if anyone played glacier with single target lightning blast and elemental nova with lightning blast. I want to try the build but i’m not sure which one is better.

[dark fox]

There was never an item like that. You can only start a new arena run from wave 1 with a normal arena key, or from wave 80 (?) with a golden one.

[weak hearth]

it can be good if we can have in the futur someting like a key that "store" the wave we stop at, all of the people don't have 3-4h ahead of them. but the item that store the wave should be hard to obtain like 15-25% drop rate on the last boss in level 100 monster (don't remember the name)

[empty sonnet]

can anyone explain me how autocast works with wandering spirits?

because i hold down my mouse button and hover over enemies and nothing happens. or is it intended to be only on left click?

[loud harbor]

Hey y'all, do we have any information about what the dev plans are regarding visual / cosmetic impact of wielding different items / armors? Currently it seems to me that it doesn't really make any significant difference. I know cosmetics are planned for the full release, however I'm worried those will be MTX driven, which would suck for an upfront-payment game like LE.

(I know this topic has been discussed on reddit previously but can't pull up any good threads about it.)

Or do we have verification that cool looking cosmetics, particle effects etc will be obtainable ingame? I know this is not something that's top priority for development, but for a final product I feel like will be very important :) Thanks!

[vast void]

wandering spirits aren't really cast where you point. Instead they just "appear" around your character

[empty sonnet]

yeah but binding it to any move to cast doesnt work :/

[vast void]

so what you're saying is that you don't know how autocasting works?

it's relatively easy: you put secondary bindings of your regular skill bar to keys on Numpad, put the skill you want to autocast into your skillbar, hold the Num-key that corresponds to the skill you want to autocast, then disable Numpad.
-You have to renew the autocast when you click outside of the game window
-You can disable autocasting by enabling Numpad and pressing the corresponding key again

[hollow socket]

But don't get used to it, the devs said they don't want it.

[jovial blaze]

Hi, im using shurikans and got a question about how the TAGS work so my shurikan got the LIGHTNING tag on it but i also have added FIRE dmg to throwing but the FIRE tag isnt on the list of tags on my shurikans so im wondering if it only can use 1 element or not?

[vast void]

the tags get added through nodes in the skill tree. For example Primalist has Avalanche, which is a channel skill so it usually has the channel tag. However the skill has a node that makes Avalanche into a casted skill which removes that channel tag

[jovial blaze]

eumb but im not using the lightning passive note on shurikans and its there but not the fire ?

but can it use 2 elements fire/lightning scaling tags or not?

[empty sonnet]

I dont have a numpad unfortunately, actually i was talking about this autocast feature built into the game for left mouse button 🙂

[fair talon]

how do you guys start off builds that get their main attack skill very late, I mean 30 points into the mastery tree late

[snow spruce]

I'm not familiar with Shurikens itself, but some skills can have that.

Added damage where its melee/throwing damage/spell on weapons does not change your skills scaling tags. Very rarely you can do this in the passive tree. More frequently you can do this in the skill's specialization tree.

Added damage will still affect the skill itself.

For example, with Shurikens

You could have +5 added fire damage to throwing attacks and +5 added physical damage to throwing attacks.

The +5 added fire damage would be added to the damage you do with Shurikens (and would be scaled by general increases to throwing damage)

The +5 added physical damage would be added to the damage you do and would be scaled by Shurikens ad general increases to the throwing damage.

There's likely a few edge cases that I haven't covered here, but this is in general how most skills work in this game

[jovial blaze]

can it have then fire/lightning scaling?

this makes it look it can only get lightning

@snow spruce

[random dock]

it can only get lightning scaling as an element as seen on the pic above

[jovial blaze]

so added fire to throwing doesnt work then?

[random dock]

no

[jovial blaze]

okey got it tyty all for info

[random dock]

the nodes on the skill trees will change the scaling tags

when in doubt check the blue tags they are your best friend

[jovial blaze]

okey i got confused with the fire added to throwing cus throwing is on the tagg but fire isnt so idk what to believe xD

@random dock

[acoustic thicket]

the mp/trade will came with 0.8.3? os its not confirmed?

[random dock]

you got lightning as tag because you must have grabbed this node

[jovial blaze]

i dont have the node but i do have this

[random dock]

yeah that affix does the same thing as the node

[jovial blaze]

okey tyty

[random dock]

if you are primarily doing lightning then I would of course max those lightning nodes

[jovial blaze]

mostly doing phys i gues

[random dock]

no its not coming next patch BUT there will be the monthly MP update coming this month

as well as the patch preview of course

[nova sable]

To double check, does https://i.imgur.com/nd0RU29.png work with https://i.imgur.com/lno1RgM.png ? (so it does more damage per ignite stacks) ?

[snow spruce]

It should based off the description

[cloud kindle]

0.9

[weak hearth]

hi guys, it's just me or 80%+ of the lengendary items are for minion ? i don't remember having seen something for bladedancer (other than weapon i mean)

[brittle atlas]

A lot of the really low level ones are minion and elemental focused

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/unique

you can see a full list here tho

[inland tapir]

Ignivar's Head says that disintegrate deals more damage based on your spells crit chance... does that mean rings such as copper rings would increase disintegrate damage? or is spell crit chance different than regular crit chance?

[brittle atlas]

It means it deals up to 100% more damage if you have 100% spell crit chance

copper rings have increased crit chance, which is generic and as such applies to everything, including spells

Base crit is 5%, Ignivar's can give up to +4%

You'd probably need to find some other sources of flat crit or invest in a lot of increased crit to get to 100%

[lucid rune]

Just use Gambler's Fallacy

[inland tapir]

right, but I just wanted to make sure that any crit chance would increase the spell crit chance for damage

thanks 🙂

[brittle atlas]

Gambler's Fallacy is certainly an easy way to get 100% crit for it, but I wonder how it compares to just getting crit on passives/tree/gear and using a rare neck with penetration and what not

or using something like orian's eye/omnis

[balmy current]

Gambler's Fallacy is +100% base crit chance (which is then buffed by your % increased crit), it's the only valid choice if you're going Disintegrate/Ignivar's Head.

[brittle atlas]

Ah, I didn't realize you could be over 100% crit chance

[weak hearth]

what is the oint to have over 100% ? (for crit it's useless ok...) for bleed/poison/ignite etc.. ?

chance to bleed i mean

[terse roost]

can stack more than 1 at a time

also is it "useless" on crit? or would it help with crit avoidance

[weak hearth]

ok so, for dot it's insane but for crit you inflict it's useless

we have crit avoidance in the defence stats i think

and it's not changing with % crit

[brave ibex]

What's the best way to scale the ward you get from exsang? Do things like health regen boost it?

[brittle atlas]

More max hp and intelligence for ward retention

[balmy current]

Health regen is bad for that kind of build.

[balmy current]

Crit avoidance is a multiplier to your chance of being crit, so being at or above 100% means you can't be crit.

[weak hearth]

yeah, i was speaking about our crit, be at 110% crit chance on our skills is useless right? you wont crit 2 time if you are at 200% for 1 hit

[fair talon]

curious, which builds would trade an offhand weapon for a shield

[brittle atlas]

block-focused builds or builds that don't really benefit from an offhand or builds that want more defense

[fair talon]

isnt having a shield a ton of damage loss

[brittle atlas]

Depends on the build

[balmy current]

correct, the only time having >100% crit chance is worth while is for the Disintegrate/Ignivar's head build

[fair talon]

it would be a judgement build

was thinking about running shield on it cuz thought it would be cool

[stone granite]

My shield has 75% increased damage implicit, so...

[terse roost]

increased damage tends to fall off because you stack a lot of it. vs something like crit chance or crit multi. depending on build ofc

[stone granite]

Yeah but I also can have 30 white mobs hitting me and not get hurt, so having a shield is nice

[fickle mica]

Ward works exactly like health, right? So damage done to ward is still mitigated by resistances and other defensive stats (like crit avoidance)?

[marsh maple]

yes @fickle mica except endurance

[fickle mica]

Oki; thank you! Guess I should've asked that question before dumping 1mil+ gold into making my Flame Reaver a tanky boi... glad my assumption was right 😆

[inland tapir]

working on a flame aura mage build... feeling a bit squishy, any suggestions on what should be adjusted for defense?

[versed scroll]

hi everyone, i have a question about the future online multiplayer play

there's this portion in the multiplayer FAQ:

Q: What happens to my current characters when multiplayer goes live?

A: All characters created offline will not be transferable to the online multiplayer environment. If you want to play multiplayer, you will have to start from level 1 again. Your current offline characters will still be available to play offline just as they are now.

does that mean that all characters currently created are classified as offline? or it is still possible to create an "online" character right now, so that i don't lose my progress when multiplayer is finally released?

[urban horizon]

All characters created are classified as offline right now

[versed scroll]

that's a bummer 😔 do we know how would endgame content differ between offline & online characters?

[balmy current]

Nope, they've not said.

[lament nest]

Hello guys, how can I see my FPS ?

[balmy current]

F11

[fair talon]

or enable steam overlay fps

[fair talon]

Why do all my builds turn out crap, I don't get it

[stone granite]

Define "crap"

[fair talon]

Idunno, not very strong

[oak skiff]

based on what

[fair talon]

Damage

[stone granite]

this isn't a place for rhetorical questions

if you are just going to vaguely complain, do it elsewhere

[fair talon]

It was an actual question but okay, be stuck up then

[stone granite]

2 people tried helping you and you kept being intentionally vague

we aren't the ones with the attitude

[oak skiff]

you havent told us why you feel its the build is crap

[fair talon]

I literally said damage but okay

[oak skiff]

you havent told us what you are comparing it too to make you feel like its crap.. are you level 10? 80 ?

[stone granite]

we don't know what "all your builds" is, we don't know what damage, we don't know what level, what you are doing, what your expectations are, ETC

it's not an answerable question

you need to be specific

[tidal barn]

guys, just asking: i found an armor with +3 to meteor and i equipped it trying to see how dps on that spell would have gone up or down using that skill points; i noticed that the skill tree now is kinda bugged and even when i log out some nodes that previously was maxed out now are missing 1 or more points and other nodes that i was testing now are permanently used .-.

reposted here from general

[terse roost]

I had something similar on another skill. not sure how it decides which points to remove.

[tidal barn]

the thing is that it removed like 4 points but gave me 5 in total

and those that got removed were random

and i can still put the items on to get the 3 extra points

[mystic sleet]

Hello fellow travelers, I have a question. I wanted to craft Added Mana on my boots but they dont show up, then lastepochtools tells me it cannot be crafted on boots. What confused me is that I have a pair of boots in my inventory, which I crafted Mana on.

Has it been changed lately? Or was it a bug?

[brittle atlas]

When you remove a piece that allocates extra skill points it attempts to remove points from nodes that are above the requirement to progress without removing points from exterior nodes

as an example, if you lose three points with this tree, it should remove these points first

[tidal barn]

so what should i do in order to have the skill tree?

it did remove 1 point from astral cataclysm,aftermath and 2 points on the left red node,crushing force

*3 points

do i have to reset the points one by one and re-level the skill again?

[brittle atlas]

Depending on how you were spec'd when taking the piece off, it's possible, yes. You might need to manual respec some of the points because the game will avoid unallocating them when losing skill levels

[tidal barn]

: /

i always thought it had "in memory" the original configuration without considering extra points given by items

[nova sable]

how does the cost of respeccing increase? Is there a cap?

[brittle atlas]

I think it's the way it is currently is to avoid creating any illegal tree configurations while also attempting to maintain skill functionality in the event you unequip a piece to craft and forget about losing the points

[brittle atlas]

I believe it scales with how far the point is into the tree, how many points are allocated in the node, how many points are in the tree total maybe? if it's a mastery tree or not

doesn't seem to scale with how many times you've respec'd?

or it's capped super low

my most expensive point to respec at the moment is 2600

[nova sable]

ok, that's fine

the scaling seemed weird

[sonic kraken]

Are there any decent premade loot filters for a newbie?

[brittle atlas]

I believe Heavy has a bunch on the forums

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/0-8-2-heavyz-casual-loot-filters-for-all-classes-v2-3/25176

I think?

[sonic kraken]

Alright i'll check it out, thanks

[nova sable]

Anybody super knowledgeable would know about the various things that interact or not with Hail of Arrows? For example, the various bonus damage on the right side of the Shift tree says "non-channeling" and Hail of Arrows isn't tagged channeling but they don't appear to work, and some other things also don't. I tried going full ignite with the Scorched Earth node but I'm not sure if a lot of the things I'm using actually work properly with it...Like again in the shift tree, the bleed & bleed effectiveness nodes, are they interacting properly with Scorched Earth? What about the base rogue passive applying stacks of bleed every 3rd hit? Elemental Barrage doesn't seem to make a difference either? what about Venom-Tipped Arrow from Jade Arrows on the left of the Shift tree?

[sonic kraken]

Hmmm the game windows seem to be a little too big despite that i've set a correct resolution and it makes some text on the skills go offscreen. Is there a way to make the windows smaller?

[fair talon]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/YQWdYDB7 what could I improve here, it's lacking damage wise on bosses, I was gonna get a lucerne at 74 cuz that would be a pretty big upgrade but it wouldn't exactly fix everything

[oak skiff]

it kind of feels like you might need more physical damage or potentially melee physical damage stats. my 47 sorc has 459% lightning damage on the Character screen page

granted your planner left out the rings and amulet so i dont know if that was an error or you actually dont have any of those equipped

since I dont have a Sentinel, where does your main damage comes from? Forge strike or rive?

[fair talon]

forge strike

[terse roost]

i mean you def need anything higher level than that weapon

you have 3x less damage from it then terror mace

or use titan femur for the str

[fair talon]

I wanna wait for lucerne

[terse roost]

why? just craft a basic one and its easily 3x better than what you have

[nova sable]

Is Oil Coating from Cinder Strike supposed to show in the buff bars? It doesnt seem to show at all

[balmy current]

Yes, it does

[nova sable]

is it working for people currently? Because I'm not seeing any such buffs when hitting with Cinder strike...

[brittle atlas]

Yep, it's like a little orange slash icon with a stack count

[lament nest]

Is it possible to gamble an unique item?

[balmy current]

Yes, assuming it's not a monolith boss drop unique or one of the uniques that had their bases disabled from dropping

https://www.lastepochtools.com/

[lament nest]

I guess the required lvl should match

[balmy current]

your level needs to match or exceed the level of the base (or unique, whichever is higher, for example the Smoke Weaver dagger), yes

[lament nest]

ok thanks!

[nova sable]

ok yeah oil coating is indeed showing up, was looking for a diff icon for some reason, thanks

[fair talon]

how do people even get hundreds of thousands of dps on a single ability, because I dont think my build will even reach a 100k

[terse roost]

part of insane dps is dependant on the ability itself to. but also knowing how to balanced base damage, inc damage, and more damage

[fair talon]

well forge strike scales with a lot of things

[brave ibex]

Forge Guard is not the class you want to play for insane damage

[terse roost]

also forge strike has basically 0 more modifiers. you would have to stack to 100% crit and a lot of crit multi. then if you roll a crit avoidence mono node you are screwed

[fair talon]

yeah I know forge guard is bad

forge strike has 50% more damage but that's about it really

and 145% crit multi

[lament nest]

I'm building a Bleed Druid, and I just realized that this ring improve my damage a lot, even though I have nothing of void damage on my skills.

[brave ibex]

Doom has really high base damage, and will also be boosted by generic DoT increase if you have that

[balmy current]

and % void damage

[oak skiff]

There was a minion version in Forge strike back in 0.7.8, i dont know if it still works
worth a look to see what you can salvage from it and adapt to current patch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utl2lV6wNrw

[fair talon]

that's a minion build though

[oak skiff]

yes, im aware

uses forge strike to generate minions out of it to do most of the damage

[brittle atlas]

I believe the minion reflect stuff got gutted pretty hard since then

[oak skiff]

ah, much shame

[fair talon]

Wouldn't be able to take much from it anyway since it's completely different

[fierce kraken]

has anyone done the math for % mana taken as dmg?

[brittle atlas]

In what way?

You need to be a build that generates a significant amount of mana to really use it effectively

like mana strike or focus

[fierce kraken]

i just dont use mana right now and using Fracture crown i want to see the balance points for %dmg taken, mana and HP

[brittle atlas]

What do you mean balance points?

[fierce kraken]

there is point where more mana doesnt help because you run out of life

also its nice to gauge my ehp

[brittle atlas]

oh, you can't really get enough mana for that to be the case

unless you actively avoid hp

or unless you have a really tiny amount of damage taken to mana

but fractured crown is like...20-50% or something right

at those values, it's unlikely you get enough mana to be ever run out of life before mana for the sake of 1 shots

[fierce kraken]

yeah, knowing the math helps to decide between 2 different fractured crows

[brittle atlas]

very rarely are you going to be over about 300 mana in LE unless you take mana at the detriment of other stats

and basically every character can get over 2k life

[fierce kraken]

i have 388 mana and 1.3k hp

[brittle atlas]

sounds like you could get a lot more life on gear

So, quick check in the build planner- a sorcerer with full T5 mana + attunement everywhere possible on mana implicit bases gets ~1500 mana, if you have T7 mana rolls, about 2100. So if you go absolutely balls to the wall and use a ton of your prefix slots and use some mediocre bases for implicit mana, you're still just barely getting enough mana to "balance" with a decent hp pool if you have 50% damage to mana

That's with mana + % mana idols too

So yeah, basically, if you're wearing fractured crown, you cannot reasonably have enough mana to have too much

[stone granite]

I have 1700 hp

[fierce kraken]

do monster obey the endurance cap of 60%?

[brittle atlas]

yes

[fading jackal]

Do skills that can activate other skills (e.g., Death Seal activating Hungering Souls) include their scaling or is it considered something separate

[brittle atlas]

It uses your skill with its tree and all of its scaling, or do you mean something else?

[snow spruce]

Small addendum to that, Minions/Companions skills do not use your specialized skill.

[fading jackal]

nope just that

[acoustic thicket]

Can someone explain this interaction please?

I assume it's global chance to blind? or is it only when I have a sigil up?

[terse roost]

has nothing to do with sigil. just global chance

[acoustic thicket]

TYVM

[weak hearth]

hey, just a question, did some people have think about some support build for when the multiplayer will be release ? just loot an item and it can be good for a support no ?

a tank build ?

that taunt, chill etc... ?

[nova sable]

would anybody know of an up to date Acidfletch build? I was just done "customizing" my ignite hail of arrows build when I got an insane Acidefletch so now I want to play with it x)

[tidal barn]

can you snapshot dot in LE? for example if i cast black hole which is converted into fire dmg and then i cast meteor with craterborn node (increased fire dmg for 4 seconds) does the black hole benefit the increased dmg or no? if it does not snapshot does this mean that i can cast meter with craterborn as a first spell and then the black hole will benefit of the increased dmg for its entire duration ?

[lament nest]

Hello guys, Do you know how can I obtain this unique? It says "Frost Lich Formosus (Zone level 100+)"

[random dock]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/timeline/blood_frost_and_death from this timeline

empowered only

and its a rare drop

[lament nest]

sounds hard

[brittle atlas]

Not that bad difficulty wise if you’ve got a solid build going, but could take a while to drop depending on your luck

[bronze ocean]

I've updated LE tools db to show more detailed info regarding timeline drops

[lament nest]

Thanks!

[terse roost]

just curious, do you get data for all the items from the api/game files, or is it manually entered? wondering if you will get all the new stuff right away next patch, or have to find them first

[bronze ocean]

all data is extracted from game resources, so there's no delays in updating with new data after patch is out. however if there are changes in game mechanics, internals and ui, then it might take couple days to update planner, this doesn't affect db that much though, so db update usually rolls out within an hour or two after patch is downloaded

[terse roost]

ah, thats pretty nice. ty for the resources 👍

[oak skiff]

hm whats the point of having over 100% stun chance ?

found an exalted mace with +320% stun chance

granted, there is stun avoidance and all

[snow spruce]

It's "Increased" stun chance, with 100% Increased stun chance you only have 2x your base stun chance (which is slightly wrong in the first place, there's an entire formula for calculating stun).

[oak skiff]

oh

ok that makes sense now

[fair talon]

you dont need to be on the level as the item to be able to gamble for it do you

[terse roost]

same level or higher

[sonic kraken]

To scale physical damage is it generally better to go for the most strength possible or for raw physical damage bonuses?

[terse roost]

pretty sure you would want a mix of both

[sonic kraken]

Yeah but early on is it easier to go for strength or raw physical %

[brittle atlas]

physical % will be higher on affixes

as it's pure damage, while strength gives armor too

but flat damage is king for sure

[sonic kraken]

Alright thanks. One more thing: What's the difference between "extra companion health" and "extra minion health"?

[brittle atlas]

companion health only applies to companions, minion health applies to all minions including companions

[sonic kraken]

So basically minion health is companion health but better?

[brittle atlas]

minion health is more generic

companion health is more specific

it's likely they're balanced with that in mind?

I don't know the exact numeric values of the nodes, but yeah. If your only minions are companions, then they're effectively the same

[sonic kraken]

I see. So stuff like primalist's wolf benefits from both minion and companion health bonuses right?

[brittle atlas]

yup

wolf, raptor, sabertooth, scorpion, bear, crows, spriggan

I think that's all of them

[sonic kraken]

And things like thorn totem would only get health from minion health?

[brittle atlas]

yep

or totem health, if that exists

[oak skiff]

hm question about elemental damage for certain spells..

As I understand it, Elemental damage encompasses Fire, Cold, Lighting elements. Does that mean that it would increase the damage of spells like Lightning Blast (which just has lightning, spell as tags).

Generally, what is the main difference between increased elemental damage vs increased lightning damage.
Doing a lightning Blast / Elemental Nova (converted to lightning) sorc

[sonic kraken]

I think it's the same case with minion vs companion health. Lightning damage is more specific and elemental damage is generic

[terse roost]

the specific elements are higher to iirc

[oak skiff]

last question, are increase spell damage, elemental damage and lightning damage calculated at the same place? or are there certain affixes calculated at different places?

[nova sable]

if it says increased I believe this should all be the same multiplier

[oak skiff]

Alright, thanks !

[swift cairn]

Does anyone know if I get my Manifest Armor to get the stats from my weapon does it work with the Chance to apply doom from Apathy's Maw?

[sonic kraken]

Does endurance only start working once you are under the threshold or it works for big hits too?

Like you have 100 endurance threshold with 20% reduction and you're at 200 hp and then you get hit for 200 do you get oneshot or endurance saves you?

[warm cedar]

hey, i asked the gd discord and imma ask here, should i buy that games xpansions or last epoch

also if neither of these are as good as rimworld imma get that

[vast void]

the GD expansions sure do add a good amount of content due to the added classes and story arcs. However gameplay wise I'd say Last Epoch is a more satisfying game due to the different ways you can build your skills even if you only run 5 of them in the end. Meanwhile Grim Dawn has its regular skill progression that you have to go for if you want to play a specific skill with little room for customisation except for the passives and effects of items you still have to farm for to get a desired effect. In Last Epoch you currently get more skill points for your skills or some minor modifiers on items but that's it since the skill's individual skill tree already gives enough options (let's ignore that some specific skill nodes are usually necessary to take a skill to endgame)

[snow spruce]

Endurance works for all damage below the threshold, so if damage would bring you below that threshold, then any remaining damage to be done will be reduced by your endurance. I believe there is a section in the game guide about this? But maybe not.

[weak hearth]

hi, question because i found this confusing, i'm following a guide and the guy wo made it take this in shift

but it wil not work on my shadow cascade used by synch strike no ?

[vast void]

why shouldn't it work?

[weak hearth]

because when i use synch strike it will deal some damage before using shadow cascade

[vast void]

oh that way

[weak hearth]

i didn't found any dif with and without on the cascade used by synch strike but maybe wrong

[terse roost]

you use it with the cascade cast on shit

sync>shift

and it casts cascade with the buff

[weak hearth]

ho !

that way

maybe work xD

zill try

[sonic kraken]

Ah yes there's a section in the guide for that. I played a lot of poe so i'm not really used to having stuff actually explained in-game haha but thanks for the answer

[warm cedar]

also if i buy last epoch on site do i get it on steam

[sonic kraken]

I'm pretty sure that you get a steam key if you buy the game on the site

[weak hearth]

@terse roost i'm trying on the pupet but i don't see any diff, i should deal almost 2 time more damage no ? addidtive on other shift but mult on other

[brittle atlas]

It’s 150% increased, not more

So it’s an additive damage increase

[weak hearth]

it say add with the skil but mult with other so it should mult with the skill from synch strike no ? just add on the damage from shift ?

[brittle atlas]

Where does it say that?

Hmm I see, in the alt text

I question whether that is accurate or if it’s old

[sonic kraken]

Is there any reason to ever use a rune of cleansing? Removing everything from an item seems like it defeats the purpose of crafting it in the first place

[brittle atlas]

You might find a particularly well rolled base you want to craft things on in a situation where you don’t need particularly high total tiers on the item

Like you might do on say... gloves so you can get T3 hybrid health, armor shred, and some attack speed on the endurance base with exactly 15% endurance or something

[sonic kraken]

Isn't going for the highest tier possible the whole point of upgrading your gear tho?

[brittle atlas]

You’d only want to do it on a slot where you care a lot about the implicit but necessarily the total tiers of the explicit mods

It depends on the slot

Like you might not need much stats on your gloves, relic, amulet, a ring

But you might want a high resist implicit roll or something

And you’re fine only getting to like t8 or t9 total

Belt is another good example

Where you might only care about getting T3 hybrid hp and t5 % hp

And you can upgrade implicits later

Specifically for early endgame especially in the low 70s when you’re unlocking most of the endgame bases

[sonic kraken]

Is there a way to tell if I missed a quest for passive points in some area?

[nova sable]

going back to each "city" hub and running around looking for quest givers should help with most of those

I had an old character who had to do that

[brittle atlas]

You can check the quest list on tunklab too

[inland tapir]

do the effects from Tome of Elements apply to Flame Aura?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAw4NgdiA

[brittle atlas]

The leech would, the other stuff wouldn't apply as flame aura doesn't hit

[inland tapir]

perfect, thanks

does disintegrate count as hitting? or no because it's DoT?

[brittle atlas]

no

[livid terrace]

Hello, I bought last epoch yesterday, and I am looking for some good HC barbarian builds (the bearded guy).
I tried a few random ones but they are no where near as durable as my sentinel build build.
Also how does one build shield in this game ? I think it's calles ward or something

[fierce kraken]

for Primalist, go for aspect of the boar on the Beast master tree. That will give you a ton of Dmg Reduction (DR). You can also take the less damage on low life nodes for 30% DR when you get to low life (35% hp).

if you add in %endurance you will be super tanky

For ward, the idea is you generate ward faster than it decays. You can reduce the decay rate with ward retention grant in skill trees and from the int stat. There are a few ways to generate ward but is most restricted to Mage and Acolyte.

[livid terrace]

@fierce kraken thank you. And early what skill should I use, e.g. sentinel has rebuke for facetanking

[fierce kraken]

warcry can give you 1 sec of dmg immunity, if thats what you are looking for

[livid terrace]

@fierce kraken yeah. So I guess early on he doesn't have much damage reduction

All the bosses seem to be doing elemental and and void damage

[fierce kraken]

yes but you will get the biggest bang for your ehp if you get flat hp suffixes over resistances

atleast to level 14-18

[livid terrace]

Last question is resistance as important here as it is in POE

[fierce kraken]

let me give you a link where i explain res

https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/p5xh7w/hello_i_could_use_some_help_with_understanding/h99ibn0?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[livid terrace]

Oh so elemental damage is way more stable in last epoch.

[fierce kraken]

every damage type has a corresponding resist but yeah, if you are at 70% res in a 75+ zone you are taking 5% more dmg

[thorny ravine]

This game gonna have leagues/cycles like POE right ? 😄

[fierce kraken]

yes, but that is a post 1.0 plan

[thorny ravine]

You know if they going to be alike, aka the whole game revolve around making rerolling new character every month or so ?

Cause i found that very boring 😄

Looking for a new game, and not search if LE will be for me

I really like POE, but love sticking with 1 character, and to be forced to constantly reroll, which pretty much kills the whole point for me

[fierce kraken]

nothing is set in stone but each cycle will have a reset. That being said you will always have your offline characters. I dont know if there will be a standard league equivalent or if you will be given the option to move your online characters offline, but it will likely be atleast one of those options.

as of right now every character is offline and they will stay there forever (unless you delete the file)

we dont know exactly what a cycle will look like other than new content/ new features/ new classes.

[thorny ravine]

Thanks for the answer mate

Maybe the problem is that with POE they focus only on new leagues, and rerolling new characters, which i already despise 😄

[fierce kraken]

can i ask what puts you off from playing standard?

[thorny ravine]

Not much players in there, trading took forever and so 😄

And the whole focus is on the leagues

like new content and so

I'm talking about POE 😄

[fierce kraken]

trading will be very different in LE so i dont think that will be as much as of a problem

in terms of new features i dont know how they will do it. TBH i dont think they know yet

1.0 is pretty far away, likely over a year from now

[thorny ravine]

Is LE worth now, or should i wait till full release?

In a search for a new game, as i have said, that will keep me busy 😄

[fierce kraken]

i have 700 hrs

i know of many others that have 1000s

the only thing to consider would be 0.9 will introduce multiplayer and that will be a soft reset. 1.0 will also be a reset so everyone starts on an even footing

0.9 is likely 3-6 months away, but remember you will always be able to keep your offline characters

[thorny ravine]

Soft reset mean start from 0 ?

[fierce kraken]

You will keep your characters and stash, but they will stay offline

if you want to play online everyone will start from 0

[thorny ravine]

thanks

[fierce kraken]

sure, let me know if you want know anything else

[thorny ravine]

Sure mate and thanks again

[nova sable]

which sentinel mastery class would you say is the most fun for monoliths?

[fierce kraken]

probably VK but its more about which build and skills you choose. Which tier of monos do you want to farm?

[vast void]

I'm kind of wondering how multiplayer will deal with the opened instances of the players. From what I could gather they wanted to make the regular map instances be solo/party dependent with towns being player hubs where you can possibly recruit people (so kind of like PoE) but will players just go into instances together when the party leader enters one or do they have to follow themselves (which works better with people still wanting to check out stores/gamblers and/or forge their items)? Is the "have to follow" approach viable for monoliths considering there's currently one entry point and party members would have to follow into the same Echo afterwards. And how are Echo rewards distributed? Monoliths might need a rework when multiplayer drops (they might need one anyway due to the story filling in and 55 no longer being after story) and if it's just spawning a portal to the Echo the party leader is currently doing.

[hazy dew]

Yeah I’m curious how a lot of mechanics will work with MP. When you portal and return it’s not like most other games that leave the instance open it resets everything.

Gonna be interesting to see how they handle it.

[fierce kraken]

I cant address all of your points, but rewards specifically will be instanced per player. You will not see what others drop and they wont see what you drop. I think if you are playing together you can trade the item.

[nova sable]

well something that can do 100s :p

[hollow socket]

They did mention that instances will be handled differently for MP. And even if they don't stay open, you could leave 1 player in it while 3 use the portal to keep it open.

[lean charm]

Hi there. I'm a vet PoE player (2013). And yes, I'm one of the 1% with mirrored tier gear, alt art and and 1000's of exalts. I loved the fast gameplay of PoE 3.13. For the people that played that patch know what I mean. I haven't bought LE yet, but thinking about it since I don't like where PoE is going with it's slow pace game-play. I don't mind hard, but I want fast movement. Can someone tell me how the game-pace feels compared to PoE? Is there a roadmap of the game? Thanks for the reply(ies) in advance.