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wicked plover
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nah nah of course not, i would never miscalculate such simple math sir

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:x

sonic saddle
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haha

prime patio
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Any squirrel player here that can tell me how far they were able to push corruption?

sonic saddle
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not a squirrel player, but afaik they don't do well past ~500

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they have issues with getting bursted down by ranged mobs in echoes

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and are very awkward to revive

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there's multiple better BM builds

silk spindle
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sry for the dumm question but july 9 is the start of a new season?

oblique vale
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yes

silk spindle
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ty

tight violet
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Does anyone with Geforce Now come across this issue?

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It's the only thing I can think of for bypassing this, but don't want to get a membership only for it to not work.

strong thistle
tight violet
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I'd settle with a working game 🤷

hasty tartan
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Does this node apply to the echoes of Erasing Strike or just the initial hit?

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It feels like just the initial but unsure

north bloom
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hmm, just started the game. Is there a reason i can't seem to pick up loot that's dropping?

hexed jewel
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Have the devs fixed the issues with deck I refuse to setup cryoutilitues and I miss this game so bad but can't play if it crashes

hexed jewel
old kettle
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hello, i'm going through my first playthrough and i'm stuck at Lagon.
I'm wondering whether there's a waypoint I can register after the fight before it, because my game is crashing 1 out of every 4 attempts, and it's kind of annoying to have to walk all the way from the temple entrance 😅

shell flame
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Stack lightning res and just finish it already.

north bloom
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should I be doing something besides sell my old gear rn? super low level :D

sweet iris
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Hey all, is there an easy way to compare to the second slot? Is there a keybind?

icy drift
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No keybind for it currently

sweet iris
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Dam, that's a RIP. TY!

surreal verge
whole radish
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Do i generaly need crit if im not doing DoT builds? Like, is it kinda of a must have?

surreal verge
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The "biggest" reason to not run crit (Singularity) is outclassed by having 20% crit chance.
It sucks because 20% crit chance is really easy to get.

crude jewel
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dancing strikes attacks are different in dmg value, why is that? like first attack is 100%, second is like 25%, third is 100% and 4th is 60% and i cant find the reason why

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i see the dps on the skill after using it the value change

surreal verge
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Not all combo skills are made equal

crude jewel
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but it would then be writen in the skill

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there is nothing that indicates that, not on tools like "first hit this" "second hit this"

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or does that have something to do with dual whielding?!

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first time i go on dual whielding

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to be clear, its not rly a problem, i just wanna know the exact value/% how that combo skill works

surreal verge
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It’s just combo skills in general, LETools might have the full numbers

vocal plank
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Is it just me or do mages just fall over to a sneeze early game

odd ravine
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compared to STR/DEX/VIT classes who get natural defenses regardless how small in the early game i'd say you're correct

hollow pebble
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Hei, does "Chance to Gain 30 Ward when Hit" mean when I hit a monster or when i get hit from a monster ? 😄

surreal verge
hollow pebble
odd ravine
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can someone explain what a "failed slam" is? So far I know it has smth to do with Eternity Cache, a Unique with up to 4 LP, and an item w/ 4 affixes.

does it transfer the exact value or will it roll the range agaib?

surreal verge
low phoenix
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does cycle reset at 1.1?

surreal verge
crude jewel
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if i have 100% crit chance, does shadow dagger also everytime crit?

surreal verge
crude jewel
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oh lol i overread that xD

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ty

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well, then i guess i nearly finished my first build i wanna do with cycle 2 :)

rough shuttle
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Whats the theory craft become? (Note: patch notes not out so double check your stuff when they do release)

crude jewel
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what you mean?

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oh you ask what build?

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yea yea i know they change stuff, but the direction what i wanna do, loot filter and even if they nerf hard the skills for bladedancer, i have the direction and dont need days in of cycle 2 ^^

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after i did bow 100% crit, i wanna try now bladedancer 100% crit + focused on shadow daggers with (atm not sure if i still wanna do thos skills) dancing strike, smoke bomb, shadow cascade for mass groups and flurry to regenerate health and mana

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my test so far works ok, on leveling i would see atm similar to bow, but slowly i recognize i have an higher dmg output

rough shuttle
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Very interesting, i honestly haven't yet looked at what i might play. perhaps paladin, but i don't know what will happen to the ward defensive layer. It'll likely see a nerf, but how much is a big question

crude jewel
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mike said its still powerful even after the nerf

surreal verge
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It's shadow daggers.

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Unless they break it in half, it'll always be a decent starter

crude jewel
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you mean the higher output? yea, could be, iam only 32 could not test it constantly on an dummy

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but even before i set the points in, i noticed a bit faster killing things

rough shuttle
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Have we heard anything about how much of a nerf we will see to the ward stuff?

crude jewel
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or i had/have jsut rly bad affix and dmg with my bow ^^

surreal verge
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Wait for full patch notes

crude jewel
surreal verge
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All we got was "higher ward=higher ward drain"

rough shuttle
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Mhm that doesn't sound too bad. just a curiosity if it'll still be a viable defensive layer or if i should theorycraft around it and go for something else.

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Ow well. waiting for patch notes it is

surreal verge
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It should be viable

rough shuttle
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The build i have been wanting to possibly start involves HH and ward as a defensive layer.. 2 things that'll likely see a nerf

sonic saddle
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yeah i wouldn't bet on HH ward generation to be amazing after the patch

rough shuttle
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Yea.. ow well one way to find out huh

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First lets await the patch, i highly doubt they'd just straight up kill the tech

native sail
rough shuttle
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I see. Tho wasn't ward in general supposed to scale with healing effect?

native sail
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Nope

rough shuttle
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Ow. i see well that kinda ruins my plan

native sail
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Healing effectiveness is only supposed to apply to things that explicitly say healing

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Ward generation is explicitly not healing and when it converts to ward it is only supposed to use the static, unbuffed amount of healing as ward

rough shuttle
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Mhm that would decrease ward generation by such a large amount.. I do wonder what'll happen / be done. Completely taking away that scaling, i'm curious how builds that relied upon it will survive

native sail
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Likely? They won't

rough shuttle
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Most unfortunate.. well in that case might aswell continue playing it in this cycle to enjoy its broken nature before switching to something that's more viable

proud prawn
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very likely that they will change the number for the ward scaling

native sail
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Which would be consistent tbh, EHG doesn't really want things hitting 4 digit corruption or arena waves, their stance on "high corruption" is 500ish

proud prawn
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like 20-25% of healing effectiveness would be a reasonable number

rough shuttle
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500?? Damn i found 2K~ already on the medium side.

native sail
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Yeah we were never supposed to hit that

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Their metric of viable endgame balancing is 300

rough shuttle
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Thats pretty damn low

proud prawn
native sail
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Turn back to about 0.7 and early 0.8 and hitting like 800 was considered far

proud prawn
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i know they said that, but from what i've seen they dont have any metric system to monitor build/skills/class performance

native sail
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They do

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They have data on everyone

proud prawn
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for example maximum DPS/EHP

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data != metric

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for example if you make a 2k shade of orobyss with 500m HP

rough shuttle
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I feel like reducing ward back to like 500-1000 makes a bunch of builds not viable anymore. that'd be such a sad sight

proud prawn
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you cant make a skill that can scale to 10m DPS and expect it to not destroy the 2k shade

native sail
proud prawn
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just an example, number is not exact

native sail
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Regardless, bad balancing does not equate to their intentions, they often overlook interactions that they didn't think about

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And... well, most of the crazy builds are just that

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Interactions that didn't get caught

proud prawn
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and that's exactly why i said they dont seem to have a metric system

rough shuttle
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Not too familiar with how they do their patches. But i highly doubt they'd nerf ward back down to the 1K numbers it'd ruin far too many builds.

native sail
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Like the busted af MM build is three bugs in a trenchcoat posing as a build

proud prawn
shut arch
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new playing level 14 lookin for some help

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some tips

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thank you

native sail
toxic echo
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no one will break your game faster than the general public. things that shouldnt work together do or things that you wouldnt expect to put together, and they dont get caught until the public gets their hands on them. that has nothing to do with their data collection

proud prawn
native sail
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sigh alright, I'm gonna stop now, goodbye

proud prawn
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I think u misunderstand me a little bit here

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what i mean is atm, there are plenty of LEGIT build that can reach very far

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by legit i mean no bug

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no unintended interactions

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no fuzzy

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some of them was actually hurt by some of their interactions not working as written

native sail
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I'm gonna be as straightforward and blatant as possible. The literal phrasing of Mike himself is that if you hit 4 digit corruption, they overlooked something they did not intend to exist, hard. Plain and simple. Cut and dry. So while it may seem "no fuzzy" or legit, it ain't.

vocal plank
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What source of proliferation does Mage have?

spark wing
rough shuttle
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Touche.

marsh maple
# native sail I'm gonna be as straightforward and blatant as possible. The literal phrasing of...

Its funny because if they just blanket nerf for 4 digits, theres gonna have to be a novel sized patch notes, because I can count on my fingers and my toes of builds that aren't falconer, warlock, runemaster, using ward, using healing hands, using Wraithlord or the usual fanfare. And I am sure I am missing a few. So all I have to say is bring it on. Maybe actually cap corruption for once instead of constantly having to war against the playerbase

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the amount of changes to fix that would require them to make more changes to the game then they have in the entire history, like imagine the history of lich nerfs but multiply that by 7 for each class. That is an insane undertaking I would never wish upon the worst of people

vocal plank
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Like having T16/17 maps in PoE. There's a cap technically, excluding juice.

marsh maple
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The amount of power creep that was added in this patch alone has exceeded what was in the game before multiple fold

rough shuttle
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I feel like it'd be difficult to do with the sheer amount of builds / setups relying upon it, or something simular. likewise the scaling being so incredibly all over the place that'd just require far too much.. and possibly ruin soo many builds

rough shuttle
vocal plank
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I was more reffering to the cap, not really how they're similar. It's like apples and oranges. They are both fruits but very different.

native sail
marsh maple
rough shuttle
marsh maple
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but until then its the wild west

spark wing
marsh maple
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I mean exponential growth would be the first change

native sail
marsh maple
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pushing past a certain limit shouldn't be about making currency, it should be about achievement

proud prawn
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also 4 digit is just a relative number

marsh maple
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like if the LP bonus's and gold stopped scaling after 1k

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id be 100% happy with infinite corruption how it is, like go nuts

proud prawn
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if they make corr super hard exponential scaling, and everyone got stuck at 100corr empowered

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then the builds that can go 500 would be the new 4digiter

marsh maple
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speaking of 1k builds I just found another one with werebear poggies

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completely new this patch

rough shuttle
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I feel like allowing players to get to like 5K~ Ward isn't the end of the world.

marsh maple
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thats a healthy amount

vocal plank
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5k ward isn't to hard to get. Especially for casuals. But if you have super high ward you often don't have other defenses.

marsh maple
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5-10k is healthy, more than that and it starts getting to become problematic

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because 5k ward is inherintly worse than 5k HP because 5k HP can leech back significantly quicker, at least for most builds

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so 10k ward is not a problem at all

rough shuttle
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Lets say a casual normal limit is 5K-10K normal gear / but slightly specced into it
And a more min-max amount being 40K~ Sure its very high and yes that's pretty intense.. but the sheer time and gear building it requires should atleast be rewarded

marsh maple
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big EHP pool, low sustain, thats how ward was supposed to be like

native sail
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The biggest ward offenders right now are due to a small selection of things; the LL nodes for Primalist and BD, the obscene generation that is RM's existence, and the stupid as all hell visual overflow builds.

vocal plank
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I have the issue of, if I am not going ward late game I feel I'm super squishy.

native sail
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20k ward alone is enough to almost entirely ignore the vast majority of the game, going higher than that should have been legitimately impossible no matter what imho

spark wing
sonic saddle
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is LL ward too good right now? potentially

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but the problem is if you want LL ward to not be viable on primalist, where would it be viable

spark wing
sonic saddle
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eeeh

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depends on the build

native sail
sonic saddle
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the more damage part of beserker should prolly be nerfed

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for sure

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100% more damage is omegalul

spark wing
native sail
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....dude

sonic saddle
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that's stupid

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nobody builds ward alone

native sail
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You don't just ignore other layers lmfao

sonic saddle
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even the massively ward abusing 2k+ corr builds don't build ward alone

vocal plank
spark wing
native sail
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When you're discussing a build or a category of builds, you take into account the entirety

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That alone is an emphasis on the numbers relating to the previous statements from Floris

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Not "yeah just ward and literally nothing else"

celest oak
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Assuming absolutely nothing outside of ward, 20k ehp is still pretty decent when comparing to life build

vocal plank
sonic saddle
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for dot EHP yeah

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for hit EHP nooo

spark wing
sonic saddle
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EHG time and time again treat ward generation as sustain

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and try and make it comparable to leech

vocal plank
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Which it could be, but as of right now it doesn't really feel like that, to me at least

sonic saddle
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but since ward generation is also the main, significant factor in terms of your EHP soft cap from ward it means giving ward builds good sustain is giving them stupid high EHP

spark wing
sonic saddle
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they need to make ward generation not the main determining factor in your ward EHP soft cap

celest oak
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depends on what you think is 'good enough' I guess. I looked at my older Forge Guard which has 19k EHP against physical and 11k against elemental, it is good enough to do 1k corruption. So 20k EHP against anything is more than enough to do 1k

vocal plank
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You're right but I can get 20k+ ward but getting past 4k health means serious issues for the rest of the build.

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Sure health has leech but, you can't leech from one hits.

sonic saddle
surreal verge
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And this is why health builds have endurance, it’s another 60% dr

vocal plank
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So I have to ask. Do I stack % endurance or do I stack + endurance? Or do I do both

celest oak
sonic saddle
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the %, which is your % mitigation under the threshold

spark wing
sonic saddle
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and the threshold, which is what life you need to be at or below for the % mitigation to kick in

vocal plank
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I'm tracking how the math works cook. I just don't know which is better

sonic saddle
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cap your %

vocal plank
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Ok cool. That's what I figured but asking is better than assuming

sonic saddle
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get max health gained as endurance threshold if you can

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don't take flat end threshold over flat life pretty much anywhere

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sometimes flat end threshold on passive nodes is still worth it tho. EHP is still EHP

spark wing
sonic saddle
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doubt it

vocal plank
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I honestly think that health will stay the same. Ward might change but idk

sonic saddle
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health is generally operating in their desired balance range

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why would it change

spark wing
sonic saddle
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you'd need to find a source on that

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but hmmm

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for most builds i think the general idea is gonna stay the same

vocal plank
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I feel that if they increase flat endurance it could be very strong if done to much. And as a whole, ARPG devs have an issue with going to far one way or the other

surreal verge
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Unless they change how flat endu threshold scales, it’ll always be bad

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Your default threshold is 30% of your max health

sonic saddle
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i definitely wouldn't say always...

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20%

surreal verge
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Oops

sonic saddle
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not 30%

surreal verge
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But still

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The fact that just getting max health already scales your endu threshold means you don’t need to build for it if only flat exists

sonic saddle
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if flat end thresh gives more EHP than flat health gives

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then you take flat end thresh

vocal plank
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Yea that

sonic saddle
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flat end thresh is worth 1.5x its value with 60% endurance

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flat health is worth 1 x (1+ increased health) x 1.3 with 60% endurance

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most builds i've seen get 80-100% increased health

vocal plank
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Is that (1+%increased)

sonic saddle
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yeah

vocal plank
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Cool. Making sure because math is fickle like that

sonic saddle
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so if flat end thresh is giving >1.56x the raw number of flat health, it's better than the lower end of that range, and if it gives >1.7333x then it's better than the higher end of that range

vocal plank
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Yea, and getting that capped Endurance Thresh is very nice.

sonic saddle
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....?

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like your full health being covered?

vocal plank
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capped % sorry

sonic saddle
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ah yeah

surreal verge
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You always cap endu %

vocal plank
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I never said you didn't. I was just saying it's very nice.

sonic saddle
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if they make flat end thresh give, say, 1.4x the value of flat health, then i think it'd have a very good place in the meta as something that helps low sustain builds

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plus some nice uniques

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one of which we already know we're getting

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with that unique chest

vocal plank
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I know it's obvious but saying it for those who only read guides and don't actually understand what they say.
If you have no endurance, the number will not matter for the unique. You only get like 20 ward

sonic saddle
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*endurance threshold

vocal plank
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You know what? I should have thought of that because of who I was directing it to

vocal plank
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Ok so. Warlock's Vile Tide node spreads poisons as long as there are at least 25 poisons around you. I assume this doesn't matter the source so poisons applied by minions should work.
The thing that I'm not 100% sure of, but I'm pretty sure it's the first option, is whether or not it scales with my DoT/poison damage or my minions

surreal verge
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If the poison was applied by you, sclaes with you

vocal plank
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So if my minions apply the poisons, it'll scale off theirs

surreal verge
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Yes

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It just copies the poison

surreal verge
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Debatable.

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If you want to spread your own, soul feast+ profane veil is better

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We take poison overload for the extra 100% free pen

vocal plank
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If I would be using minions I would want to spread theirs.
We would get the pen on the minions poisons right? Because it's just copying the older poison stacks?

surreal verge
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Overload is a player buff, it doesn’t buff the stacks

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(So no)

vocal plank
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Oh yea. Dang

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Then I'm basically choosing, do I want defense from minions or do I want damage.

hollow pebble
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Hei is it possible to "export" my stash config from cycle and import it to legacy? So I don't have to reconfigure the whole stash? xD

desert tree
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Sadly no

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Its smth they would like to do, maybe , one day

hollow pebble
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Does it maybe take my cycle stashes if I haven't a legacy char after cycle ? ^^

desert tree
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You will have your cycles stashes as "Remove-Only"

hollow pebble
pliant marlin
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I wonder what stuff on Gathering Storm's tree affects Storm Bolt? Is it only the nodes that explicitly say Storm Bolt on them? Especially Storm Bolts from other sources than Expending Storm Stacks

desert tree
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Nodes that specifically call out Storm Bolts and nodes that are globals

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Rending Vortex
Concentrated Storm
Lightning Strikes Twice
Clouds of the Horizon
Excited Bolts
Thunderous Strike
Tempest Weapons
The Phys and Cold Conversion
Shock Chance of Jolting Strike

pliant marlin
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Rending Vortex description sounds to me like it only affects the Gathering Storm melee part? or really also Storm Bolts from all sources?

desert tree
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All Storm Bolts from any sources

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I mean the Melee Part also get Flat Crit per Maelstrom

safe sky
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Rending vortex is spicy

pliant marlin
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okay, thanks a lot for the list. it's a bit confusing with the descriptions for me

crude jewel
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are those 80% like if i would had an affix that says "80% increased physical damage" or is the calculation differen since it says "more damage"?

pliant marlin
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Follow-up: Does "Of Ice and Snow" work for all storm bolts? The description looks very similar to "Rending Vortex". Both just say "Gathering storm"

pliant marlin
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so that node is always 80% multiplier on your damage

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or rather 180% multiplier I guess

crude jewel
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ok so if it would say 100% more and my skill does 1000dmg (floating text) i would make 2000dmg?

pliant marlin
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It should work that way as far as I know

crude jewel
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k ty, then that node is huge -.- but 50 for one dancing strike is hard xD 2 times and i need 5 times furry xD

desert tree
crude jewel
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yea i thought so but was not sure since sometimes the text is weird ^^

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that explains also why i have the feeling i do already more dmg then with my bow build

pliant marlin
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that's an interesting node. it's a strong modifier with 1.8x the damage buuut also 5x the mana cost probably? something to build around for sure

crude jewel
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yea my plan was to go on shadow daggers with dancing strike, thats not possible if i only hit 2 times and oom xD need to take 4 points out and/or more mana... not sure but that i will figure out on cycle 2 then, thats just 8 points then to alocate elsewhere

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still not sure which affixes i want, still tinkering a bit :)

fading wave
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Get some Mana Regen on your gear then or Hybrid Mana on one of your weapons

storm wren
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I must say this quiver will be the first target I'll try my best to get because my marksman is playing this build!

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Hah I'm more hyped for 1.1 update...Let me play please! I can't wait

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Like the change for way to get stability of timeline and empowered timeline so much. It'll save lots of grinding time!

lavish crane
storm wren
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I'm interested in exploring how that new camp work. Forgotten knight can associate with cof sound a bit complex

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Will my wraithlord stay the same damage after the update? let's see 👀 Hope it's not nerf

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Lots of fun is on the road. Wow wow wow

desert tree
storm wren
surreal verge
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While other builds take much more effort to hit that number, if they can even hit it.

crude jewel
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well tbh SD is third focus, first is 100% crit, second is crit multiplier ^^

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atm i am at 481% crit multiplier with 105% crit and 470% increased melee dmg and flat 86 melee and 39 physical but thats not rly minmax, on tools ofc with full max stats ^^

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and 2281 health

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oh i forgot 500% stunchance i also want to stun much oO

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and armour shred also... i cant choose 😢

proud prawn
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going 100% crit AND shadow dagger at the same time is a huge waste

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oh nvm u're using shadow dagger as supplement damage

crude jewel
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yea ^^

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i ask yesterday already but nobody responded, i have the problem i cant choose just 1 max 2 things to only focus on that

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i already ended up focusing on 5 things

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someday i surley will have found the way/perfect build for me COPIUM xD

prime patio
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Why is it that block effectiveness is not a good stat to have on your items? I see some rolls that give a huge amount of it and I am wondering, how that is not desirable? Is it simply the case that there are better defensive options?

surreal verge
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Eg: Going from 1k to 1.5k is 8% more block mitigation.

balmy oriole
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however the higher your mitigation the higher each other point of mitigation becomes

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going from 0 to 50 halves the damage you take and to half this damage again you would only need another 25

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but i think the main problem is that block as a mechanic does nothing for damage over time which tends the be the way higher danger

surreal verge
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Most things don't do anything for DoT.

wicked plover
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what are the scariest dmg types ingame in your opinion, hit me with your top3

desert tree
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Dot, Dot, Dot

wicked plover
surreal verge
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Not including generic DR/ Dot DR effects.

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Armor? Nope.
Dodge? Nope.
Block? Nope.

safe sky
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Armor to dot for sentinel works too right? But that’s a special case

desert tree
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That's why they added Armor to Dot Affix and Implicit

surreal verge
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Yeah that's a special case.

desert tree
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Because Dot have less layer of defenses

safe sky
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Oops maybe not just sentinel I’m getting mixed up

wicked plover
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so converting poison dmg to phys wouldnt help against poison dot?

surreal verge
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Sentinel has the easiest access to it, so you're technically right

surreal verge
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Which is STILL a dot.

wicked plover
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which also doesnt apply to armor then?

desert tree
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And the Armor to Dot Affix/Implicit is stronger for Phys Dmg

wicked plover
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so if you wanna build defensively the armor to dot conversion is a must have

desert tree
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But imo you are gaining a negligable amount of tankiness

hexed jewel
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Any steam deck memory leak work arounds or fixes yet that don't involve installing cryoutilities?

prime patio
wicked plover
# desert tree Yes!

then for example the 20% dmg reduction from wings would apply to dots as well right since its global
so its not worth exchanging that for the body base with dot conversion

surreal verge
surreal verge
wicked plover
surreal verge
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Yes

faint cape
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Yeah, if it just says "damage", then it's all damage

wicked plover
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cheers fellas

faint cape
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The only reason armor/dodge/etc. don't work for DOT is because they explicitly exclude it by working for "hit damage" or hits

white plank
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i am stuck . how do i get across?

surreal verge
white plank
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time gap?

surreal verge
white plank
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yes it just takes me back to anceint era. my quest is in ruined

surreal verge
white plank
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ahh let me try.. thanks

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thank you so much. it work

muted fractal
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U know that happen to me with stairs in ruined era when u pick Ur ascendancy omegalul

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I don't even know how I even thru story first time in beta lol I think I was stuck in the hoping era mission for some time

north bloom
#

Anyone recommend a guide for the crafting component?

toxic echo
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!crafting

ripe brookBOT
toxic echo
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you can also just repeat that command..there are a few we have listed

north bloom
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Beautiful, thank you :D

crude jewel
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!crafting

ripe brookBOT
crude jewel
#

its the same Sadge

acoustic canyon
#

This nemesis system coming in 1.1.

Do we know how this is going to work in party play? Wife and I play together more often than we don't.

My question is will all party members get there own pool of loot from them or will this be based on who ever clicks the nemesis first?

Like how will this all work. If one wants to empower it and the other doesn't

toxic echo
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If i had to bet, it'd be the owner of the timeline...but they havent clarified afaik. Can try asking mike on the dev stream thats on twitch right now, or in the dev section here

jolly flame
#

Whats a good bare bones loot filter for a brand new account? Like..I kinda want the gold, but having to port out 10 times every map is getting old. I imagine loot comes easier later anyways. Is there anyway to filter it by "only show me items better than what I currently have equipped"? omegalul

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New acolyte eventually going necro if that matters

surreal verge
#

100 gold on the floor is worth almost your whole inventory of items that aren’t uniques

wicked plover
# jolly flame Whats a good bare bones loot filter for a brand new account? Like..I kinda want ...

there is no "green arrow up" function for item display that would just automatically make upgrades noticable
you can go with a very simplistic filter for starters for example if you want int on your body armor you can go with that, recolor all body armor with int on it etc
you'll figure out what you want to look for as you progress and adjust your filter accordingly as you get more used to it

jolly flame
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Ohh, so it only recolors the items that meet the requirements of the filter. It doesnt actually hide items that done meet the requirements

surreal verge
#

The loot filter hides nothing by default yeah

wicked plover
#

so for starters just highlight a few things you want to look out for

whole radish
#

Whats the relation between 2 conditions in the same rule (filter)? Do they work as separate rules or both must happens for the filter to work (e.g. show a gear with both gear type and affixes)?

wicked plover
whole radish
shut arch
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HEY I NEED HELP WITH MY SKILL TREE ON MY ROUGE

wicked plover
#

so it doesnt really work that way, it depends what you wanna do with it

whole radish
shut arch
#

DISCORD BLOWS

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NOONE HELPS

wicked plover
toxic echo
# shut arch NOONE HELPS

if you want help, ask actual questions, either here or in #🔪┃rogue . i promise you typing in all caps no one helps after 15 minutes is likely not going to get the help you want.

ruby tendon
#

With 1.1 dropping soon, any harm in starting a new char or better waiting around a week or so for that to release after having been gone for a bit?

wicked plover
mild sierra
#

Hiya, I don't play LE but I've had it on the wishlist and noticed it was on discount for the Summer Sale; just wanted to ask two questions about it:

  1. How is controller support at the moment? Store page mentions partial support right now, but I want to be sure that there isn't any weird bugs with controllers for right now that might really affect gameplay a ton. Also, does it support PS5 controllers?
  2. Is there anything about adding the option for using WASD for movement on KB+M at some point? If it's already there, how is it right now?

Just reply back to this with any answers you have on them; thanks ahead of time.

yes i know a lot of people in the ARPG scene really love the whole "click here to make your character move there" way of moving around; I just really prefer other methods where possible

icy drift
faint cape
#

Well, Mike reiterated the answer pretty quickly anyway, disregard this

pliant marlin
#

if I have 2 Spriggans summoned, do I benefit from two instances of their aura? or just one?

lavish crane
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Just one

storm wren
#

Ok I'm a newbie again lol Get my void knight role at first

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A 100% beginner in online mode haha

faint cape
crude jewel
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!crafting

ripe brookBOT
pliant monolith
#

Will there be a new season with harbringer?

oblique vale
#

harbinger is the new season

storm wren
#

Do this type of prophecy limit on normal timeline or can be completed in empowered timeline too?

native sail
storm wren
prime patio
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I know that next cycle is 9th of July but when does cycle 1 end?

native sail
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If it's anything like 1.0 launch, the day before

prime patio
#

Can certain armor bases have certain affixes? I am trying to put dive bomb on a body armour and I am not able to

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Although my other body armour has it

native sail
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Unless it's the wrong class, no. There is an affix limit though, 2 prefixes and 2 suffixes. You may have full prefixes?

toxic echo
#

also needs to be rogue body armour, and not out of shards

prime patio
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Nope, 1 prefix open, but can't craft it

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Or maybe I don't have any shards and it doesn't show in the crafting options?

native sail
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It won't show if you don't have shards yeah

prime patio
#

Ah ok

native sail
#

The only locks that exist for affixes are item type and class. None of them care about specific base.

whole radish
#

Is there a way to check the crit chance for a specifc spell?

surreal verge
whole radish
clever lintel
#

Does fencing grace scale with exploding ballista? Using apogee

desert tree
#

?

clever lintel
#

Node in the Falconer passive. Says increased dmg with 1 h weapon

desert tree
#

Unless you have a way to make your Increase Dmg apply to your minions (Ballistae here) then no

clever lintel
#

What do you mean? Do you have an example of what passive or unique passive would apply the dmg

surreal verge
clever lintel
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Okay ty

shut arch
#

hey you guys im new is anyone down to run the story with me

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im level 50

jaunty verge
#

when is the new season coming out ?

jaunty verge
#

thanks, saw the icon on the steam update and got confused

prime patio
#

Is glancing blow cap the same as block chance? 75%?

proud prawn
#

both are not capped at all

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idk where you get that 75% block chance cap from

surreal verge
#

Wait no this is for effectiveness.

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Dodge indeed does have a hard cap of 85%

surreal verge
prime patio
surreal verge
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Yes.

native sail
#

It is rather difficult to do

prime patio
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Ah, ok ... I guess I made this assumption as in most ARPGs block chance has a cap of 75%

faint cape
#

Block doesn't prevent all damage in this game, it reduces by a % capped at 85%

prime patio
#

Still sounds quite good to be honest

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Also, I think most damage in this game comes from DOT and not hits?

native sail
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Nope, most is hits still

faint cape
#

Most damage is hits, DOTs are just dangerous since they are harder to mitigate

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Many common defenses (block, dodge, armor, glancing blows) don't affect DOTs, though armor can get a % of it applied to DOT with a specific stat, it's still hard to stack much up

prime patio
#

Not sure if I understood this right but does poison stacks from enemies lower your poison resistance? I don't understand why poison dot is so deadly unless this is true to be honest. Other kinds of DOT don't seem that dangerous as poison

native sail
#

It does yes

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All kinds of DoT are dangerous, still. The void pools in Julra fight for example will shred your health real quick, so you're advised to never stop moving while that's spawning.

prime patio
#

How much does poison stacks reduce your resistance by?

desert tree
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1 per stack up to 30

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Same as yours

surreal verge
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-2 poison res per stack

desert tree
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... According to Letools it's actually 5

surreal verge
#

5 normally, 40% effectiveness on players and bosses.

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(so 2)

desert tree
prime patio
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So a good defensive layer vs poison dmg would either be to overcap poison res by a bit or have that belt affix that clenses ailments?

clear carbon
#

I joined the game during beta and a friend of me joined just after release. How is it, that I can't invite him into a party, when there is no cycle yet?

surreal verge
clear carbon
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I see

clear carbon
clear carbon
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ok thx

whole radish
#

Does every builds kinda "needs" armor and dodge or only those with Str and Dex?

finite swan
#

does bow count as 2 hand weapon/

whole radish
faint cape
rain python
#

Is there any place to recruit for discords besides this server? Having a hard time finding solid places to get players.

faint cape
wind shell
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Hi) Is there any tool where I can click on a unique and see all builds that are using this unique?

sonic saddle
#

so at late game in general poison res is considered the least relevant resistance, with many people simply not capping it at all, only getting like 50% or so

sonic saddle
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or you have a bunch of strong steroids for them like druid swarmblade builds gaining dodge through serpent strike and maelstroms

scenic bane
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should be able to ctrl+f whatever unique you want

astral ginkgo
#

whats the best passive playstyle build atm. i mean like minions or totems. link to guide is welcome 😄

rotund latch
#

I'm pretty new to the game, when should I worry about builds and grinding specific items?

full quest
#

I have a question why can’t I go through the portal to receive my mastery

spark wing
full quest
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I looked it up lol

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Was so confused

dull escarp
#

What are unique skills?

buoyant sinew
dull escarp
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thx!!

storm wren
# full quest

Had stuck on this icon for a long time until someone tell me there's a path go upstairs

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That path isn't obvious enough to be honest

charred vector
#

Is Orian's eye so damn rare as Red Ring? Been doing Age of Winter for a few days and nothig. Prophecies etc and nothing.

native sail
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Not as rare, Red Ring is the rarest item in the game

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It's close though

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Like, very close.

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Orian's takes third place by technicality, second by pure random drop chance.

charred vector
#

Its the last item I need and I will have all items in game

native sail
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Impressive. I always burn out when I get to like 10 items left.

charred vector
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Still few days to new cycle

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I will fight then

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Till the end!

native sail
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Good luck! I believe in you :P

charred vector
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Thx !

frigid wraith
#

what day are the new patch notes dropping? with like class balancing and stuff

lethal plank
#

hey guys anyone playing on steam deck? just wanna ask how does the game feel and does it run good on the steam deck

native sail
slate wave
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hey i have never played a game like Last Epoch is it Beginner friendly i also work alot is this game worth it been looking for game that i can get into and grind

frigid wraith
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yea its pretty noob friendly

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pick a class that looks fun, find a guide(optional), and just kill things

slate wave
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ok nice would you say its a game that i can play and it will He supported for a long time, or do you think in a year probably die out

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very not good at Combos either

frigid wraith
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itll probably last a good 2 years minimum. the devs seem good so id say longer but 2yrs minimum

frigid wraith
slate wave
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oh ok nice Yeah, I've been looking at a lot of top down games and last epoch Looked very cool. Plus, it's on sale in Diablo 4 looks cool, but I've heard everybody said that Diablo 4 is not the game to be playing right now. Just looking for a game that I can get into for a little while. I work a lot plus I'm kind of new with games like this.

frigid wraith
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LE is fun for sure. Something you can come home from work, kill things for an hour or 2, then go do IRL stuff

or you can hard grind for hours on end.

both are valid

slate wave
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ok nice man Thank you for your information and support.

spark wing
#

Do we know the hp of monsters and bosses? Since stun/freeze chances depend on it, it's important information.

native sail
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Check Tunklabs, they should have at least the base HP.

proud prawn
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they dont

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sadge

prime patio
#

Does global damage affect pets too?

desert tree
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No

prime patio
#

When you get this node and it converts all bleed chance to frostbite chance does that also include pet bleed chance?

desert tree
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No, and thats just Bleed Chance from All Sources (skill tree, passive tree,gear) for Warcry (only Warcry)

prime patio
#

Ah ok, great

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Thanks!

wicked siren
#

Does "healing effectiveness " affect "leech"?

desert tree
#

No, only Heals

pliant marlin
#

is there something wrong with this filter? I haven't found a single dagger with the mana+regen affix in multiple monos (probably 40-50 echoes)... you can craft it with shards on daggers so I assume it can drop aswell?

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it's also at the top of the filter list

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or maybe it's just very very rare?

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well eh I could've just dropped one of my crafted daggers with it and notice that it's working.. lol

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just bad luck or rare to get one I guess

storm wren
pliant marlin
#

for some reason it's under "Attributes" category

icy drift
#

All your progress will be transferred to legacy

glossy rock
woeful pasture
#

I am having 2 graphics issues. Can anyone suggest what setting to change? I tried to switch up everything from low to ultra in graphics but not sure what is causing this:
1: the map shows these white boxes at the bottom instead of the key bind for them

icy drift
# glossy rock ahh thanks so i play now or wait 9th july?

You can play now to get the hang of the game and start a new character when the cycle comes out if you want to play cycle. Or if you just start in legacy you can keep playing the same character after the patch comes out, all the content except for the pinnacle boss will release at the exact same time for both cycle and legacy, the pinnacle boss will release 1 day after it gets beaten in cycle or if no one beats it for a week it'll come out automatically. It'll most likely get beaten day 1 or 2 though

woeful pasture
#

2: these green lights.. they come only on the part of the maps with water most of the times:

icy drift
#

try to verify the integrity of your files

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through steam

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usually helps

woeful pasture
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Didn;t work 😦

pliant marlin
#

ohh exalted color despite it being magic? did you recolor it or nah?

storm wren
#

oh make sense

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heavybreathing Ok find a dragger with this affix but it's a magical item only

pliant marlin
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ok thanks! so they drop, I'm just unlucky I guess. I've had that line at the top of my filter since getting to monos and I'm almost at empowereds now

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I guess empowereds drop way more loot anyways

storm wren
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I'm farming the special dragger you're looking for in empowered timeline indeed

graceful dock
#

Hi guys, i have a Laptop with MX150 on it, will it run atleast on Low? Thanks

icy drift
#

Like maybe? But probably not gonna be a smooth experience sadly

crude jewel
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i thought shadow daggers disappear after a short amount of time, but its like they never disappear as long as the enemy is in combat with you?!

crude jewel
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oohhh i never read that oO

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somehow i thought its like 4 or 8 seconds oO

lost dock
#

Afternoon guys! I am thinking about buying this game with other 2 friends to play together as a new ARPG game and we would like to know about the "Endgame", Can we do it together like the campaign or it doesn't function good with coop? (For exemple we saw in someone`s video that the endgame only gives the party leader progress and rewards.

desert tree
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That's true for now, but we have been told there is going to be some changes about that in 1.1

desert agate
#

is there any info about balance changes for 1.1?

surreal verge
whole radish
#

Is Profane Veil Singleminded bugged? Im teleporting back to where i started when i finish the channeling

desert agate
surreal verge
hasty tartan
#

Howl says it heals now - does anyone know how much it heals or what scales it?

clever anvil
#

is beastmaster fun?

desert tree
hasty tartan
#

Yea

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LETools isn't clear

desert tree
#

Yup can't find it either

clever anvil
#

gona start my first char but have really hard time chosing

desert tree
#

There is a chance it doesn't actually heal you

hasty tartan
#

I've noticed it heal me, but I don't know what the amount is

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Exactly at least, I noticed it heal me for 60ish on a new char?

desert tree
hasty tartan
#

The character is so new I'm still in chapter 1, but good idea.

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I think the tooltip is missing info?

desert tree
#

Oh!

hasty tartan
#

Thanks

desert tree
#

Yip

cosmic rover
#

How do people feel about the experience playing in a group?

dense estuary
#

can't add shard chance to shred armor to bows, bug?

pliant marlin
#

does Detonating Arrow's Arcing Blast hit the primary target? I think I'm seeing three numbers (arrow, instant detonation, the tendrils?) but not sure

faint cape
faint cape
pliant marlin
#

I see

charred vector
#

Ive got them all 🙂

native sail
faint cape
balmy sorrel
#

is the 1.1 harbingers a new season? do i need a new character or can i play with a current one?

buoyant sinew
rotund flame
#

I can bet when I played the game at launch it used dx12, reinstalled the game now to play a bit before s2 start and it uses dx11. Why this happened? Also the display selecting from 0 to 1 has no effect, game stays on the same display.

buoyant sinew
mental oar
#

does DoT duration increase tick damage or just make the total damage higher

buoyant sinew
#

but since most DoTs stack and have a short duration, it's basically just more damage

mental oar
buoyant sinew
#

there is a weird quirk where dot base damage values are reported in LETools as damage over their total duration rather than DPS, so that formula is correct if you don't have any duration. but once you have duration...nope

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oh actually, given that quirk it's not wrong

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if you take "base damage" as "damage for the entire duration" not "base dps"

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

that seems like a confusing way to look at it though lol

mental oar
#

feels wrong any way you slice it unless duration really modifies tick damage.

let's say base is 100 dmg / 10 seconds, 1s tick dmg = 10

according to that formula a 10% increased duration would result in 100*(1.1)/10 = 11 dmg per second

#

but yeah in game guide says you're right so 🤷‍♂️

#

can't wait for the tooling in this game to get a bit better...it's almost there but not quite PoB yet

buoyant sinew
#

you're right sorry, I was thinking that final term was "total duration" not "base duration"

#

okay yeah I can't explain it then

#

weird

buoyant sinew
#

really funny lol

mental oar
#

that's pretty cool, yeah why not

sonic saddle
mental oar
#

in the "calcations" section

sonic saddle
#

oh i think that's just how LEtools does the calculation

#

well

#

calcing DoT's can be awkward, especially with increased duration

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so they just treat increased duration as a more damage multi

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simplifies the calculation

south plover
#

anyone else getting what i can best describe as like an old vhs scan lines when walking anywhere (doesnt matter town or out in the wild )

#

tried vert sync both on and off (its not screen tearing but literal scan lines that travel down my screen

#

doesnt show up in recordings or watching the recording over, but it shows while playing in both online and offline

faint cape
faint cape
south plover
#

tried both monitors and the same happens on both

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lol

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just updated graphics drivers and it persists, have almost 600 hours in and never had a problem, stopped playing for a few weeks - a month and this started happening randomly 🤷‍♂️

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and its weird because its not in an isolated area it starts at the top and works its way down and repeats

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seems changing my main monitor to 120hz and turning on vert sync fixed the issue

velvet agate
surreal verge
velvet agate
#

oh, It turns out that caft line 3 will appear line 4

surreal verge
#

Yes, items always have 4 line slots.

warped mural
#

Will they be fixing the annoying trade api and the silly amount of grinding needed to reach rank 8 on trade faction this season

clever anvil
#

i have a really hard time deciding what to play as first class

#

any suggestions?

storm blaze
#

What kind of playstyle do you like?

last brook
# clever anvil any suggestions?

Reign of winter ice bow build is fun and one of the easiest to build to id say. Bows in general are good starter for campaign clear.
Druid, swarmblade has been fun for me this cycle.

clever anvil
#

soorry i went with beastmaster

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i do usuelly prefer something niche, and that is easy to learn but hard to master

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anything that fits that?

wicked plover
# clever anvil anything that fits that?

in arpgs its more about how difficult is smth to gear for to make it work rather than a personal skill improvement curve
so i'd say just try some skills out and see if something looks like a fun playstyle for you, then try to build on that

cedar locust
last brook
dusky kite
dusky kite
#

if you are looking for a game with actual skill expression in moment to moment gameplay I'd suggest a different genre

floral finch
#

hey, it has been mentioned somewhere but what happens to cycle stash when they move to standard or whatever it's called in le? do they automatically go to a folder of its own

oblique vale
#

it gets turned into a remove only stash tab

floral finch
#

ok ty. i have 65 tabs full of junk in cycle lol cof.....

#

are you fellow humanoids going to delete cycle characters once they transfer to std?

floral finch
#

i don't have any slots left 😄

#

altholic and hoarder....

#

i might delete them all....

wicked plover
#

if you dont intend to play them ever again then yea go ahead

#

capping out on char slots is wild 😄

floral finch
#

it's the norm for me 😄 i don't know how many but i have many in poe.... been playing since 2013

#

it's addiction and foolishness can't finish single build, always something cool drops for other build and there we go again....

dusky kite
#

That's not even two per mastery

clever anvil
upbeat imp
surreal verge
dusky kite
upbeat imp
#

Very crazy to chat with a group of master gamers who play poe or grim dawn or diablo for thousands of hours by this game though

cedar locust
#

The community here is pretty awesome when you need help or info 😁

clever anvil
#

actuelly never been a fan of ARPG's lategame, but i played all of them (not D4 or Dimmoral)

#

i like playing them but once ive just finished campagin im usuelly done

dusky kite
#

campaign is the weakest element of LE by far, not comparable to GD or even Diablo I guess

#

this game is really more focused on replayability/game systems

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as opposed to, you know, story and narrative

clever anvil
#

well

#

i already bought so

#

and im sick and need something to do

dusky kite
#

might as well give it a try

proud prawn
#

there are place where you'd need some actual "skill"

#

but dont expect it be on the same caliber of "skill" like in let's say dota2 or counter strike

clever anvil
#

you arent able to chose mastery untill 20 right?

cedar locust
#

You can choose your Mastery as soon as you reach the End of Time, you can't put points into your Mastery Passive Tree until you've spent 20 points in your Class Tree

clever anvil
#

ah okey thanks

storm wren
#

I guess it's a good time to play another branch in acolyte? Should I try warlock or lich after I own a necromancer 🤔

#

I don't like any melee class even I tried my best...Ok let's try warlock

dusky kite
#

it can be easier to gear up your alt if it's of a different spec on the same class

#

as opposed to a wholly different class

dusky kite
#

chests, helmets and relics are class-specific and you will have more overlap with loot from your previous character

#

idols too

storm wren
#

The most annoying point is...Everything has X mark so you don't has any choice at the beginning haha

red blade
#

Got any legit guide for forging?

#

How often should I do it

#

Should I do it often in the beginning

#

?

lavish gyro
#

Are you through the campaign?

toxic echo
#

!crafting

ripe brookBOT
toxic echo
cedar locust
#

Oops, I'll follow up on it - sorry, we've been heads down in Blog and Patch Note Posts 😅

slate isle
#

Is there a way to hide helmet?

surreal verge
modern crystal
#

is this fixed? im facing the same bug

storm wren
#

I suppose this is the favourite passive point even it's useless at the end game. Had helped a lot while I'm growing the first class :)

kind spade
#

hello what is the cycle system?

#

and why i cannot switch my character to cycle?

cedar locust
#

Cycles are seasons. With each new major update, 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 etc - a new Cycle starts. Your old Cycle characters will be moved to Legacy and you will make new Characters for the new Cycle.

You can still play your old Cycle characters this way but you cannot move any Legacy characters to Cycle.

kind spade
#

ohhh so it is basically season mdoe

#

mode

#

i got i t now

#

ok and now, how do i strart empowered shrines?

#

do i need to be lvl 100?

storm blaze
#

You beat the 3 lvl 90 monoliths and go to the island in the middle of them and you should get a cutscene

hasty tartan
#

You complete the three level 90 timelines.

#

You don't need to be level 100 character level, people regularly start them in the 80s.

kind spade
#

ughhh

#

and the empowered monos drop unique gear?

#

that i cannot find in non empowered?

storm blaze
#

There are items that can only drop in empowered, yes

kind spade
#

cool

#

i think i will stop my bladedancer at 70 tho

#

i keep getting uniques for other classes lol

#

that means i need to start new characters

#

i have a mage in offline, back when there was no online mode

#

and i cant transfer him QQ

half frost
#

So Im kinda confused on how I should go about building my passive tree. Should I focus on maxing out nodes or just do the bare minimum to move on to the next tier? Should I be focusing on damage or defense primarily?

clever anvil
#

if i like explosions sorcerer is the best?

wide sentinel
#

probably not

candid elm
# half frost So Im kinda confused on how I should go about building my passive tree. Should I...

Often the more powerful passives are to the right in the masteries. So you may want to head for those, then go back later and fill in some others.

You're going to have 113 total passive points at character level 100, if you get the 15/15 passive unlocks from the campaign.

You must have at least 20 points in your base class to be able to put points into any of the masteries, including your chosen mastery. The unchosen masteries you can only put points up to the halfway point, marked by the chain.

Thankfully, it's pretty easy to respect passive points if you want to change them. Just talk to the brain icon NPC in towns and you can refund passive points using the regular gold. The only downside is you have to click each time, but you can spam left click + enter to speed it up.

clever anvil
wide sentinel
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sacrifice/zombies/explosive ballista

muted fractal
marsh ivy
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So is 1.1 going to be a full reset. Mg rank , levels, progression?

toxic echo
marsh ivy
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So the progression of factions has to be repeated again. Gotcha thanks

muted fractal
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Ok I m curious now ,are the faction reset completely again so we have to go to first unlock are instead of getting them in first town ?

desert tree
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New cycle means new start, back from 0 everything
So yes, you will need to reach act 9 the first time

muted fractal
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Nice so no fresh farming monolith at start ,good choice

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Stops people from speed ranking things from level 20ish lol

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Apart from mg I m guessing they can still power level selling and buying things for 0 gold ?

desert tree
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Selling for 0 gold is stupid

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As soon as you spend the favor to put the item in the Market you gain reputation

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You don't need the item to be sold

muted fractal
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Favor can be farmed fast ,feels like this need sort of "fix"

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Also floods the market

desert tree
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Still doesn't make any sense to sell at 0

south plover
muted fractal
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And if u on Nvidia drivers maybe try to back em up to older version they temp to scre up sometimes

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It does sound like a graphic card issue TBF

mild sierra
#

Asking another question as a prospective buyer; I'm assuming it would probably be best to wait until the 9th or so when the update actually comes out before actually playing the game, right?

Just reply back to me when you respond

toxic echo
lavish gyro
mild sierra
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What if I'm planning to do offline stuff

candid elm
candid elm
# mild sierra What if I'm planning to do offline stuff

If you're playing offline, you'd probably want to install the game and set it to the "full offline" mode in the Steam settings before the 1.1 update.

When 1.0 launched and there were some server issues, people that had set it into offline mode could still play.

Might as well set it to offline first if that's how you're going to be playing offline anyway.

mild sierra
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So have the game set to offline and also the Steam Client itself set to offline?

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If I understand correctly

native sail
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No, no, just the game. It's a launch setting. The server issues weren't Steam side

mild sierra
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OK, just double checking

candid elm
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Example

raven sigil
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any more additions to group play in next update? i played support paladin on launch are they adding more?

whole radish
#

Does low level base itens have lower implicit values even if i drop them at higher levels?

toxic echo
tidal garden
#

im thinking about getting LE on sale. coming from Poe is the combat and endgame gonna get stale quick?

toxic echo
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Nothing is going to compare to poe's massive endgame options...so it will feel like it. 1.1 is an endgame addition cycle tho

hasty tartan
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Another thing is PoE has had Atlas of some sort out for almost 8 years, and it's been released for over 10 - LE will get there, but it may take time.

tidal garden
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gotcha. might just wait til poe2 so i dont get burned out on arpgs. tried going back to d4 cause of dumb youtube hype and its still boring as hell

hasty tartan
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Also, if PoE is a bit too difficult but D4 is too easy I've heard LE is a good middle ground.

tidal garden
surreal verge
sonic saddle
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yeah apparently they're changing how gazes work

short tulip
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Question with the merchant guild trading, how is the economy regarding prices? cause I'm now on choosing between the guild and Circle. I'm just planning to casually play but I've seen the comparisons that CoF is better for target farming but idk how much items go for in MG.

candid topaz
#

when new season ?,

proud prawn
dusky kite
# short tulip Question with the merchant guild trading, how is the economy regarding prices? c...

MG is much better for targeting anything, COF is only "better" if you either use a broken build to push extremely high corruption that was never intended by the developers, or if you want to just be swimming in random potentially useful bulls hit cause you are running multiple characters. It also remains to be seen what changes they end up making to both, as some had been announced (especially in regards to COF players benefiting more in terms of boss drops).

blazing stone
# dusky kite MG is much better for targeting anything, COF is only "better" if you either use...

CoF is much more casual-friendly if you don't want to play the 'auction house simulation' game. I prefer playing the game and getting loot that I actually use rather than constantly trying to stay ahead in trading. Additionally, CoF is much more party-friendly, as there are simply more items to share with the friends you play with. However, if you have endless time and enjoy trading, it's much easier to target farm and min/max, but for me, that's less fun.

dense remnant
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mg is better for geting betterr items quicker, cof is better for not having to interact with a marketplace, and worry about the gold value of items that drop

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the only place cof could be considered better for getting gear is 2 months into a season when no ones playing, and you play the broken meta build that someone put together after working out how to abuse ward to make something way too strong.

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at any other point mg will have more gear, because thats just how a marketplace works

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cof is he pick if you dont want to engage with a marketplace, thats it, nothing else to consider basically

blazing stone
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D3 is the game where you get the items the quickest... that was less fun for me. However, I accept that there are different views and playstyles, and we can have both with multiple characters, so we don't have to choose. It's great that they made that an option for the players; I think we can all agree on that. Improvements to both systems will come.

storm wren
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heavybreathing The class looks more ugly when she wearing this helmet indeed because the scale not right

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This armor don't match with this helmet of course. Not sure any armor can match with this helemt.

humble kernel
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Kann mir hier jemand zeigen, wie das Spiel so ist ? 😄

desert tree
humble kernel
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Can someone german show me the game please ? 🙂

desert tree
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You might find a few german streamers on twitch

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Someone named Quanyx is streaming in German Last Epoch

short tulip
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I am so confused, are purple items higher in rarity from gold and orange?

desert tree
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Exalted (purple) are rarer than Rare (yellow)

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Uniques are a different kind

short tulip
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so what am i Looking at

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are the boots and wand higher level?

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because the stuff on this purple item dont seem that better on the yellow ones and idk what the eye means on the lower right

desert tree
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Higher level than what ? Level and rarity are different

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The Eye is the CoF rank necessary to equip

short tulip
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ahh I see

desert tree
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And that Item is a Mace btw

short tulip
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cause idk why there are purple items with only three affixes

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lol sorry

desert tree
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Exalted just mean one of the Affix is T6 or 7

short tulip
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gotcha

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i saw piurple, i thought i got something good

desert tree
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Not always ^^

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Health on Melee Hit is quite bad ^^

native sail
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Rarities are as follows:

Normal - zero affixes
Magic - 1 to 2 affixes
Rare - 3 to 4 affixes
Exalted - at least one tier 6 or tier 7 affix

Things that don't quite fit into the rarity system:

Uniques - they're each manually created by the dev team
Set - also like uniques, except the more items of a set you have on the more bonuses they give
Legendary - these are created by the player by mashing together a unique with Legendary Potential and an exalted item at the Temporal Sanctum dungeon

candid elm
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⚪ Normal white
🔵 Magic blue
🟡 Rare yellow
🟣 Exalted purple
🟠 Unique orange
🟢 Set green
🔴 Legendary red

errant pulsar
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How to play coop?

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My boy shows as offline even if we have same server and all

cedar locust
candid elm
# errant pulsar How to play coop?

You need to be in the same game mode. Example, both in Online Cycle or both in Online Legacy. Then use the Social screen - H key - to add them as a friend by their account name that's listed on the H key screen.

Don't add them by character name that's on the C key screen.

errant pulsar
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Server LE-94 cant fetch party data

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Maybe its bugged

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Cause everything else is on the same page

blazing stone
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ah you both have to restart the game (or atleast go back to character creation and laod back in) probably, coop is still a lil buggy

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guess one of you is already at the mono/dungeon waiting for the other one?

errant pulsar
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Im in game divine era, played only a day, lvl 30, he’s lvl 2

blazing stone
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hmm try new characters, i guess the coop with different quest progress is still a problem...be sure noone choose ssf or saf

errant pulsar
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Rebooting both clients fixed the issue, thanks

whole radish
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Is it worth investing in Endurance even if im using a build with massive heals and health regen? I feel like i would instantly heal up above endurance treshold

surreal verge
whole radish
surreal verge
safe sky
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Endurance will increase your chance of survival so that your heals can get you back to max hp. It adds a lot of effective HP to your pool.

whole radish
surreal verge
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It kicks in even in the same hit your health gets sent below the threshold.

safe sky
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If a hit would take you below the threshold, endurance will apply to any amount that crosses over.

whole radish
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Ooooh whaaat? Ok that sounds good.

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Just to be sure, bc the in game description doesnt clarify. Assuming i have zero defenses and minimum endurance and 1k hp. If i would take 1k dmg i would actualy take 960?

surreal verge
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Wait no 960

whole radish
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Weird that the game doesnt clarify that

kind spade
#

yo guys i found a unique bow that boosts damage after i move, what class would be best for that???

candid elm
# whole radish Weird that the game doesnt clarify that

There's an in game guide, G key. On the Endurance page it does mention

Endurance applies to any damage taken below your Endurance Threshold, even if the instance of damage applied while you were above it. For example, if you take a hit of 100 damage, but 50 of that damage was below your Endurance Threshold, the last 50 damage will have Endurance applied to it.

kind spade
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i know about rogue but there are 2 bow subclasses

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which one uses movement more often?

obtuse umbra
#

Any thoughts why this rule isn't recoloring Telfun's?

lean elbow
#

Are companion ability tooltips on your bar supposed to reflect your stats and not the minions?

kind spade
#

does anyone know if the falcon for falconer class is considered minion?

oblique vale
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falcon is minion, yes

surreal verge
solemn stirrup
#

When Harbingers of ruin launches, do characters reset?

candid elm
kind spade
#

bwahahaha

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echo boss destroyed me

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the one that resets the web

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i juist got him to 89%

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how do i kill the echo boss as a bladedancer?

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he is crazy strong

last brook
#

If it's low corruption just need to make sure ur defences are topped

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Phys res most important. Then rest 60

dusky kite
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No amount of resist will save you if you have low max hp btw

kind spade
#

is also DPS check i guess?

#

does he have enrage mechanic?

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i really need more dps for sure

native sail
wicked canyon
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I have a question: I just heard that all new content will be available for legacy chars one week after the new cycle starts. Is that true?

buoyant sinew
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they're not doing cycle-exclusive mechanics at the moment, will start later

wicked canyon
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ok but then whats the point in playing the new cycle at all since I can use my already existing chars?

surreal verge
wicked canyon
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I have a feeling this will backfire spectacularly

surreal verge
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Can't relate, 1.0 had the same thing.

wicked canyon
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yeah but 1.0 is 1.0

surreal verge
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We'll be here a while, no cycle-exclusive stuff till at least 1.4 since the new stuff is SUPPOSED to be base game stuff.

wicked canyon
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only feasable reason to start a new cycle char will be the fresh economy in the MG

surreal verge
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Which is the point for now, yes.

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Devs know this and it's intended.

storm blaze
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Because fresh start is still worth it for me

wicked canyon
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I'm more afraid about the population of new cycle chars since we are not "forced" to make cycle ones

blazing stone
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fresh start and even playing field will motivate to play circle, atleast for me

wicked canyon
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Dude I'm with you 100% but many ppl are not like us

safe sky
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Im guessing that with the hyperinflation of cycle 1 now moving over to legacy, that anyone who wants a somewhat sane MG economy will start new cycle character.

blazing stone
#

they will eventually get there 🙂

candid elm
storm wren
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I need to active this node to turn javelin into a traversal skill? @native sail

safe sky
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Yes

marsh maple
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If you take that node it does not count as a traversal skill so you can still use one with no penalty

surreal verge
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and it's the godamn best part of it.

storm wren
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heavybreathing Thanks. I get what should I do next

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Wrong specialize skills I chosen

solid kindle
#

hi, does this game have pvp?

dusky kite
#

no

candid elm
# storm wren Wrong specialize skills I chosen

You can change the skill specialization at any time. In the Skill screen, select one of your specialized skills at the top. Then in the upper right there's a button you can use to either remove some points or completely remove that specialization. Letting you then choose a new specialization for that slot.

You can again do this whenever you want and there's no currency cost, but the newly selected skill is reduced to a minimum skill level and gets bonus XP until it's starting to get close to being leveled up again. The minimum skill level increases as you level up, maxing at a min level 10 at character level 80. It's usually pretty quick to re-level skills.

hasty tartan
#

I heard of a bug where flurry swipes was bugged to not doublecast with the Frenzy Totem node - is that still the case?

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The thread is really old iirc, so I'm not sure if it's been fixed

sonic saddle
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@wicked plover just cos i don't wanna do convos in ask the devs, farming low corr for 0lp uniques to egg is just a bad idea. Higher corr will simply net you more drops of that unique no matter what the item or your item faction

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If it's a random drop unique then higher corr means more favour for prophecies in CoF and more valuable drops to sell for simply buying the item at any degree of lp in MG.

If it's a boss unique higher corr means more stability to kill the boss more often and higher drop rates of rare boss drops if lower corr means <600% increased rarity

wicked plover
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it was a hypothetical question to sniff out some info about lp rates ^^ so far it seems that egg has a less negative impact than rune of ascendance, thats all

sonic saddle
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I would hazard a guess that it'd have higher rates than regular drops, but that still doesn't change the equation

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It wouldn't really make sense as a mechanic to have lower rates than regular drops. To egg an item say, 100 times, you must have seen at least 100 of those items drop because of the chance of the item dropping with LP

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And have gotten 100 seperate eggs, which i'm pretty sure you're not guaranteed to get each nemesis

wicked plover
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statistically the chances for lp are naturally lower on average because you have a chance to have legendary affixes added directly to the item instead of added lp

sonic saddle
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Er... no? Yes you can have affixes added but that doesn't mean adding lp is inherently less likely than the item dropping with lp naturally

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Also they've said when you egg an item you always either get affixes added or LP.

dusky kite
hasty tartan
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RIP, hope it gets fixed in 1.1

wheat karma
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has anyone had any luck with the omnis amulet? im sitting at 500+ corruption for four different timelines as well as doubling my chances with prophecies and still nothing 🙃

native sail
sonic saddle
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(Prophecies can't drop boss items, even if their completion requirement is a specific boss kill)

wheat karma
sonic saddle
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Omnis is pretty rare, i've been at 500+ corr killing orobyss a bunch for most of the cycle and only have like 6

wheat karma
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at least you have one haha

native sail
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I have I think 4 and most of my playtime for 1.0 was above 800c

sonic saddle
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Yeah but i also missed 17 eternal eclipse slams so yeah, we all got our bad luck

safe sky
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I have about 400h play time and only seen two. But they dropped on consecutive orobyss kills lol

wheat karma
sonic saddle
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Understandable

wheat karma
#

im still determined but geeze

native sail
sonic saddle
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My record for 1/4 odds slams this cycle is like 5/44

dusky kite
wheat karma
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i was baited with one good slam then it hasnt been right ever since lol

sonic saddle
#

Semi rare?

dusky kite
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or is it just rare? idk

#

you filthy mg traders can get all the eclipses in the game, nobody is gonna use it any time soon

dusky kite
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rip

sonic saddle
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Yeah a lot of my cycle went into that lol

short tulip
#

Is the roll available already? I cant seem to find it

naive sable
#

I'm cumback player, what advantage and disadv of forgotten 9 faction ?

upper flume
sleek ruin
#

damn until this day its still unfixed...i will not wonder if EHG will disappear/abandon thier game...devs ddnt care anymore

short tulip
#

can you only progress idols via campaign?

sleek ruin
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as u progress in ur main quest its automatically unlocked, same on passives..with gray marker,.,,just check for the rewards when clicking on gray quest if its passive or idols..i usually ignored gold/exp rewards

short tulip
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yeah I was hoping it would be unlocked when i created another cycle character

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kinda like how D4 unlocks somethings already as long as one class has finished the campaign

scenic bane
#

What time does 1.1 drop? I know the date is July 9, but have they said a time yet?

desert tree
#

The official website has a countdown

short tulip
#

Can anyone clarify the max skeleton summon for the necro? is it 10 or 12?

desert tree
#

Regular or mages ?

short tulip
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regular

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i think mage maxes out at 5?

desert tree
#

Regular is 12 iirc, you can get 4 Golems with Aaron Will

mild sierra
#

So I only started playing today and I've made it to around level 27-ish so far; is it just me or does it seem like there isn't any level scaling on items? I keep seeing level requirements on some of what I find but the stats themselves don't seem to have changed very much across what I've found thus far, and it's kinda confusing me a bit

short tulip
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cause right now i only have 8

surreal verge
# short tulip regular

3 base + 1 necro mastery bonus + 3 skill nodes + 2 necro passive tree + 2 hollow finger + 1 chest affix

surreal verge
short tulip
#

ah might be the hollow finger that I’d need two of those

#

tyrant and the chest affix is also what
i am missing

frozen token
#

how much would this be worth on the bazzar? it came as a 24

mild sierra
vocal plank
surreal verge
mild sierra
#

Gotcha

frozen token
vocal plank
#

So the thing with ARPG that have any kind of economy is that the people will make the choices. If there is a ring with the same amount of weaver at 35M at the lowest, than that might be the price.
Now if you want it to sell faster you can sell lower, but that's up to you

desert tree
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And the economy is very slow rn too because it's the end of the cycle

vocal plank
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Yea. It's just like PoE. We make the economy, and since it's later in the season people are playing less so it's slower like Vlad said

frozen token
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i got it up for 27m if someone thinks they want it or thinks they can make money