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oak wolf
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dropped from a boss

wicked plover
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i love to use that item as well until i get my crit avoid fixed on other items

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or get the empowered blessing

oak wolf
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yeah people said it's a good beginner item

dense root
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it is

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capping crit avoid is really important

near path
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it's a good bandaid for now

pastel pebble
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I avoided it a long, long time

near path
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eventually you'll want to get the crit reduction affixes on other gear so you can use a real armor

viral kettle
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so i cant see the dmg numbers on training dummies? whats their purpose then lol?

wicked plover
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have you turned dmg numbers off

viral kettle
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i didnt but, i am gonna check again, brb

surreal verge
viral kettle
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yea

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auf

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dmg nr was turned off lol

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idk how, bcs i have it on

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forget you are reading this:P

steel merlin
viral kettle
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i was kinda hoping they would be more help...is the spell tooltip acurate, i can just go by that?

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i am comparing disintigrate to fireball, and its hard lol

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bcs fireball also applies lot of ailments

wicked plover
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it gives you a good estimate
but it's very dependent on the circumstances, your buffs, other effects that dont directly show in the tooltip dps

near path
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tooltip is garbonzo

wicked plover
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tooltip dps is just base dmg, dmg scaling, attack speed, crit
so anythign outside of that

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you gotta adjust

near path
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please don't believe tooltip

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there are too many conditional buffs and debuffs in this game to trust tooltip

viral kettle
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so, i have 60% chance to poison on hit.. is that shown anywhere in the tooltip?

near path
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use dummies in the arenas for much greater reliability

viral kettle
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never been in one yet, i am new:P

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died with my mage hc level 50, so i am fooling around now:P

near path
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you'll get there, it's in Heoborea

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unlock it and you can use the dummies for DPS testing

viral kettle
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yea i know, i discovered it

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so i just enter one?

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i guess on sc there is no risk lol

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ok

near path
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I mean, you don't need to start an Arena match

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in the Arena town zone there are dummies

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you can test there

viral kettle
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aha

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tnx

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is death in arena also permanent for hc characters?

true heron
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Is the "freezing point" passive talent for runemaster bugged? it says it converts shred armor into frostbite chance, but i have an item which gives + armor shred chance, however on my character details window when i equip/unequip the item it does not affect the frostbite chance?

viral kettle
dense root
surreal verge
near path
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only to start Arena

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if it's asking for key then you're trying to start Arena

viral kettle
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but i am already there, testing the dummies

near path
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walk around the area till you find the dummies

surreal verge
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Which means the sheet doesn't track it

near path
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ah ok

viral kettle
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did you mean some other dummies?

surreal verge
true heron
surreal verge
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Not specific ones.

true heron
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okay thanks

ancient dagger
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is paladin a decent class?

wicked plover
ancient dagger
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I know you should play what you like I'm just wondering if it's any good meta wise

viral kettle
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i would be more helpful if dummies had fixed hp so you can time how long you kill it with each spell then this honestly:P

native sail
surreal verge
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The "No actual boss comes close to their hp" kind of high

viral kettle
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really lol.. which one has the lowest bcs my dmg is pitiful:P

surreal verge
native sail
near path
surreal verge
near path
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low life

native sail
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Leo did and uh... yeah that's it now, don't think anyone who reached that point is left in the server

ancient dagger
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oh ok ty

cold latch
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i bought this packet via website but in game it shows to pay

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the other ultimate edition says : You have it

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What should i do?

toxic echo
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if you got the wrong thing...maybe support

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!support

ripe brookBOT
ancient dagger
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how do I open the mini map for it to be bigger

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I don't mean to full map

surreal verge
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Tab?

cold latch
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Any dev here?

surreal verge
ripe brookBOT
cold latch
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I bought it and paid for it but in game it still show me option to buy it.

toxic echo
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please go fill out a support ticket, like you have been told twice now. no dev is going to fix this in a discord channel

cold latch
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ok

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I have discovered

misty zenith
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Will first cycle introduce new content?

cold latch
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So after buying a supporter pack via website we are getting on our email steam key and with this key we are activating product.

surreal verge
misty zenith
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Oh, so it's just a reset?

toxic echo
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and of course various bug fixes/balancing etc

true heron
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do i unlock empowered blessings just by keep beating the timeline boss? currently i can only pick from 4/5 one is still locked?

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like beat the boss again and then i can pick from 5/5?

surreal verge
true heron
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ah okay, thanks

buoyant roost
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Hey all, can the Upheaval totem still grant the master of totem buff? (Both nodes from Upheaval)

true heron
faint cape
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Yep, random each run

true heron
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okay thanks

toxic echo
hexed remnant
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@surreal verge LOL I GOT IN! PRAISE JEUBS! XD

surreal verge
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how the fuck

hexed remnant
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Found an old tread from WW2 on the forum, disable Cloud Save and rename save folder in LocalLOW xD

faint cape
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TunkLab actually shows the chance you'll see any particular blessing

weary cradle
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how the hell do you truly disable chat.

Disabling it from the main Social - Menu does nothing. even after restarting. Disabling "Public" does nothing.

I see constantly people chatting popping up.

sinful laurel
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You don't sadly

sinful laurel
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Not yet

weary cradle
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omg.

surreal verge
near path
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you just suffer

weary cradle
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thanks.

sinful laurel
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Lessons for life

surreal verge
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The good news is that it's a known bug

near path
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listen to all the clueless tools give each other terrible advice

weary cradle
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I guess there is less people in offline?

near path
sinful laurel
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There are definitely less people in offline lol

weary cradle
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I am talking about the chat itself.

desert tree
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99% sure last time I played it was disabled

toxic echo
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thought chat was in offline too...since its not true offline rn

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and its a seperate server

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from the game

weary cradle
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I see.

near path
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1.0 comes with true offline

weary cradle
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because I tried offline briefly first. then I read you will never be able to export any offline char. ever. so I thought that... if I am going to test a char anyway before release, I could try online.

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and chat was just even worse.

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I don't want to block everyone either.

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well. thanks for the replies.

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now I am not sure I want to play before release.

near path
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honestly don't IMO. There's a huge bunch of fixes that are supposedly coming

sinful laurel
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Yeah and don't burn yourself out before 1.0

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Plenty of time to play after 🙂

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Does anyone remember the name of the guy who developed the new build planner?

vital coral
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Is marked for death a more multiplier to damage?

weary cradle
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not so much about story, which is something I usually don't care much about in any game (even though depends on the genre/game). but rather discovering the game myself as a whole.

vital coral
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yeah 100 is max level

near path
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bruh

weary cradle
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it's a bit crazy that such a simple feature isn't working being the game so close to release.

weary cradle
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only heard good things about this game and wanted to do a break from Diablo 4 and its incompetent devs. and here I can't even disable a simple chat. lmao

toxic echo
native sail
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Interestingly I know my chat can be turned off

near path
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I'm not a comp sci guy so what I understood it as was the fact that there are versions of the server, and they are working on the final version for 1.0 rather than releasing increments because they are focusing effort that way

vital coral
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You have a great game ahead and you are complaining about reading chat

near path
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if they were to release incremental fixes it would be a LOT more work

near path
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so while I also hate it, I can understand why it is the way it is

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hence, best to wait it out. I haven't played since Oct

native sail
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I have to disable my chat every time I login to a character but I can disable it

true heron
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so my GPU is allways chilling at like 30-40%. at 100+ FPS..but when there is high mob density on certain echos my fps drop to 20-30...rtx 2080s, does not matter wether or not i play on ultra or all low graphics

true heron
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have they said anything about fixing those horrible FPS drops???

faint cape
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It takes a lot of effort and time to release a stable build, so they just didn't

steel merlin
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That planner lost the ability to remove points from tree overnight

weary cradle
# vital coral You have a great game ahead and you are complaining about reading chat

of course I am complaining about being forced to read/get distracted by a chat.

like I would do the same if some text was constantly popping up in any other games. being Tekken, Diablo, DMC, Tetris... I am not streaming reading some general chat of people I want to read. I am forced to see lines and lines popping up with potential spoilers.

this is a major flaw regardless of how good is the rest of the game.

faint cape
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that planner has quite a few issues, yeah

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work in progress at least

steel merlin
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It's already improved since two days ago so there is that

true heron
faint cape
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no

true heron
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yes, click the cogwheel and hit "

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"disable chat"

weary cradle
faint cape
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the discussion is around the fact that the disable chat feature doesn't function

weary cradle
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will try again and let you know...

true heron
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i clicked "disable chat" and my chat is gone...seems to work just fine

faint cape
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but it's okay, in 1.0 if you play full offline, there won't even be a chat for you to disable (and hopefully for online it'll be fixed)

weary cradle
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I was using the general "Social" option to disable it and the one in the chat itself. along with "unchecking": Public.

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but I had not tried the wheel. assuming it's different, will try it now and will let you know.

true heron
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it works on the cogwheel

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after like 5-10 seconds the box will disapear aswell

faint cape
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it re-enables every time you transition zones, unless they fixed that also

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once you are in end game, you don't transition zones very often, so it's largely an early game issue

true heron
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im doing echos all day with disabled chat tho

faint cape
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yeah exactly, when running echoes you never transition

weary cradle
# true heron it works on the cogwheel

this definitely doesn't work for me. not sure why.

at most it worked once (unless people were quiet). then I entered the second zone and suddenly saw people talking again.

true heron
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oh well then

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sadly lots of bugs

weary cradle
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wondering if it could have something to do with the fact that I am playing with the controller. even though I checked and there is nothing binding chat options to the controller (the hypothesis would be that I am re-enabling the chat myself without knowing it somehow with the controller). even though anyway I tried just disabling and doing nothing.

faint cape
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yeah, it seems EHG doesn't have a 'small bug fix' pipeline, so a lot of small bugs just have been sitting around for a while - hopefully 1.0 has a wave of fixes, we'll see

round portal
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I see some people can equip 2 golden guppy pet, but cannot, anyone know the reason ?

toxic echo
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expecting a 60 page patch notes on 1.0 lol

true heron
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game will be great tho when they fix the bugs and the performance, but i cant see them do it all with 1.0

toxic echo
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good thing they have had nearly a year since the last big patch to fix em

limpid maple
toxic echo
weary cradle
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nah. I give up.

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will play on release.

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thanks for all the replies though.

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and trying to help.

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much appreciated.

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I think I will leave the server as well to avoid spoilers.

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at least I can disable "this" chat.

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lmao

acoustic thicket
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If I die I can't revive

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Unless I restart the game

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Is there already a solution for this?

true heron
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never had that happen, dunno

acoustic thicket
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It's no fun like that

lunar sonnet
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i'm currently playing a primalist, what causes a dummy to spawn?

toxic echo
lunar sonnet
deep ravine
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friends how do i find shade of orobyss 🥲

tribal bone
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pick a direction in the monolith

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and beeline it

dawn orbit
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when i for example have 5 crafting potential and the next upgrade will take 1-10 and 6 or more is coming. i assume the upgrade fails. Does the mats are gone? and is the crafting potential still at 5 or goes it to 0?

toxic echo
wicked plover
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that means that will be simply your last craft on that item

dawn orbit
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thanks you both

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is there a way to permanently show the advances stats of an item which i see when i press ALT?

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cant find something in the settings

toxic echo
dawn orbit
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thanks, the toogle for comparing i already found. but looks like there is no toogle for the other stuff

faint cape
solar comet
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I created 2 offline character found characters and they don't share loot as stated. Is that intended?

faint cape
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The default behavior for offline is 'solo account found' (which is what that 'solo character found' checkbox describes)

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You can migrate your two SCF characters to SAF, but everything in their stashes will be deleted (grab everything you want into your character's inventory before migrating)

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crafting materials and gold are in your stash, so you won't have any after the transfer, but you'll get that back up pretty quick

tribal bone
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Is there a way to actually scale warpath well with abyssal tempest

faint cape
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Is that the one that procs abyssal echoes? If so, no

solar comet
solar comet
solar comet
# solar comet

In terms of bugged texts, all the detailed info text in my game guide are slightly blurred and overflowed. Not sure if its bugged or I need to adjust my display settings

buoyant sinew
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it's a common bug, hopefully fixed in 1.0

vocal haven
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Given that falconer's picture had daggers and traps, is there still not going to be a dedicated spear user?

toxic echo
vocal haven
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Ok, was really hoping for more spear support with full release since it kinda feels off to the wayside compared to other weapon types

toxic echo
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yeah. spears are not in a great spot overall. there are some builds that use em tho...but it definately feels a bit lackluster

true heron
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where are the target dummies?

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ive seen videos of people testing damage on target dummies...im wondering where they are?

faint cape
faint cape
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otherwise, you have to find the arena town, it's divine era west of heoborea

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Champion's Gate or something like that

true heron
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ok thanks

acoustic thicket
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This is with "very low" brightness setting. Is there any other setting that might cause the high brightness (and low contrast)? Looks so muted compared to my other games

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I'd love to be able to make it look more like this

candid elm
acoustic thicket
viral kettle
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ok, i suppose i died there, but the screen just halted w/o any message and nothing i can do?

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should i just relog?

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maybe i am not dead? 😛

leaden tundra
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can you change specializations and if not are there plans to make this a thing?

candid elm
candid elm
buoyant sinew
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and there are no plans to make it a thing, the devs have been very clear about wanting it to be permanent

acoustic thicket
agile junco
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This should apply to melee too, right? Or only bows? When I press ALT nothing shows up for concentration

buoyant roost
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Does morr spell damage include dot ailments inflicted by spells

agile junco
wicked plover
sage shale
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does game get season on full release?

faint cape
toxic echo
faint cape
weary hill
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Hello, my friend is stuck in the divine era, he doesn't have any quest anymore and can't go through the next zone.
Anyone know what he could've missed ?

toxic echo
weary hill
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He can't access to the Northen Road

toxic echo
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there is no reason to revisit nothern road. once you beat orian in the summit, you go to keepers camp, talk to leena and balthas, and get teleported to the ruined era

zinc cliff
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Are certain items target farmable in campaign maps? I just got The Invoker's Frozen Heart and The Invoker's Scorching Grasp literally 1 pack after the other in The Lower Sewers - Imperial Era, seems like ridiculous odds?

near path
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Bit lucky but theoretically everything is target farmable in monoliths

weary hill
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@toxic echoThanks ! that was it

zinc cliff
near path
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Most items are general drops as long as the area level meets their item level

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There are some boss specific items

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In monoliths, the endgame system, you can find "maps" or echoes that you can run to get rewards of a specific type, like say unique rings, which help you "target farm" things

zinc cliff
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Yeah that makes sense, I was just curious that I got these 2 set items even in the same area, let alone within 1 pack of eachother. Made me wonder if there was target farming like you had in PoE with certain campaign maps having high drop rates for certain div cards

sharp current
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Just lucky

near path
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Not really no. You just got lucky

zinc cliff
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Time to get a lottery ticket then

near path
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As in PoE some uniques are just more common than others

sharp current
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Too late, you just used the luck on the drops. Should have bought the lottery ticket first.

zinc cliff
deep ravine
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hi guys whats top 3 flashiest builds to play

sinful laurel
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The ones you like the most

desert pebble
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when is falconeer class reveal?

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I saw we have passive points now but im not that knowledgeable

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to see how will class be

buoyant sinew
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8th

true heron
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when doing Empowered Monolith, what is the point in doing the optional quest echoes?

flint yew
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if its a difficult boss you can get rid of some damage modifiers doing those

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since they dont add mods

true heron
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but do they add stability?

flint yew
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nope

true heron
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so doing them removes modifier?

flint yew
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it eats up 1 area of modifiers without adding anything

true heron
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ok

flint yew
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so dont do it if you can handle the boss since you lose the rarity/quant it gives

true heron
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if you loose an echo does it add the enemy modifiers?

near path
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nope

dusky cosmos
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How much corruption do you add to the web in avarage?

near path
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varies the further out you go

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idk how it will be when the system changes in 1.0

dusky cosmos
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How do you add corruption to the web?

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just with these onces:

near path
hasty tartan
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Looking at a starter build for wolf beastmaster, am I right that it's a mistake to skip axe and claw passive, or is it just due to point starvation?

dusky cosmos
near path
true heron
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the more gaze of orobyss you have the more corruption u get

near path
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flat phys is a hard to find stat

hasty tartan
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Thanks, can I link the planner and get a suggestion on what to remove?

near path
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idk your build

hasty tartan
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I thought they scaled hard with flat phys

neon compassBOT
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General:

▸ Health: 3,142, Regen: 305/s
▸ Mana: 120, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 77 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 2 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 67% / 67% / 67% / 64% / 75% / 57% / 25%
▸ EHP: 5,260 / 5,260 / 5,260 / 6,777 / 5,681 / 4,815 / 3,787

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 650
▸ Armor Mitigation: 52% (3,361)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 97%

Damage Types:

Physical / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

Summon Wolf (22)
Swipe (20)
Warcry (20)
Summon Frenzy Totem (20)
Fury Leap (20)

Used unique items:

None

This build has a guide:
dusky cosmos
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thanks

near path
hasty tartan
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Would keeping it at 1 point be OK?

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I get 7 points that way and can max flat phys there

near path
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yeah I mean it's the least important passive node in your tree

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whatever points you need, take from it

hasty tartan
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Thanks. I just remembered flat phys / flat damage in general seems to be really good for wolves

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Tunklab says they only have 18 base but have 100% scaling

near path
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in general the more you get of the stat that's the least available, the more of an impact it has

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%inc damage is easy to get

hasty tartan
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Makes sense mathematically yea

near path
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Wolves tree has a LOT of more multi

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that leaves you with flat

hasty tartan
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As of druid tree, what do you think about spirit warden? Replace with chitinous plating maybe?

near path
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Chitinous is significantly better yes

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takes pressure off gearing

hasty tartan
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Thanks, I'll switch that too then.

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I also added a point to hunters of the deep so my wolves actually get shark aspect

static blaze
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how do i avoid getting one shot i have every resistances to like 60% and my crit avoidance is 134%

hasty tartan
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Got the build off youtube, wanted to make sure I was actually fixing errors

near path
hasty tartan
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rather than adding points where they didn't need to be

near path
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armor / block / endurance / dodge / glancing blows / movement speed are other defensive layers

static blaze
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ok thx

hasty tartan
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I'm in a3, I can safely hide white items, right?

true heron
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yes

hasty tartan
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Thanks

agile junco
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To make a legendary item do I need to use the sabe subtype for both items? (dagger + dagger)? Or just the main type (one-handed + one-handed)

agile junco
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Crap

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Ty

hazy zinc
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When do the current supporter packs expire?

candid elm
# hazy zinc When do the current supporter packs expire?

I don't think there's been any posts about that yet. There will likely be an announcement if/when that happens. There was a post that the Deluxe and Ultimate versions and those upgrades aren't going away when 1.0 launches. The only thing from that not available in the future is the golden guppy pet - which everyone gets if they own Last Epoch before 1.0.

dawn orbit
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I just picked my mastery. On the passives there is written 75% void melee dmg. Does i need to unlock it or does i have it automaticcally?

candid elm
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Note that you can also put skill points in the unselected masteries, up to that chain graphic that's going do the middle of the other two.

lunar sonnet
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A friend of mine is stuck on entering a new zone "entering zone x", anyone has a fix for this issue?

peak oracle
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does this mean that the explosion only scales off spell dmg, and not minion dmg?

peak oracle
desert tree
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It's a Spell, casted by your Minions

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With a Fire and Physical tag

wide sentinel
desert tree
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It scales from Fire minion dmg, Physical minion, Spell minion, minion dmg

peak oracle
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what about the marrow shards? If i make them trigger some

wide sentinel
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i should join the club

desert tree
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That would work

desert tree
peak oracle
desert tree
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"When a zombie dies YOU have a chance..."

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So since you are casting Marrow Shards, it scales from your dmg

peak oracle
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ah ew

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i was thinking of triggering my own zombies explosions, but if i have to scale minion dmg AND my dmg, i fear its gonna be rough

desert tree
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Yeah it's a bad idea

vital coral
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Is marked for death a more multiplier to damage?

desert tree
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Yes but it's additive with penetration and shred

peak oracle
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that being multiplicative wouldve been dumb

desert tree
peak oracle
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its sadly the only one that has warlock enabled for now...

desert tree
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Yeah, it's because (dont know about Maxroll) Letools use game data to make his.

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And since well... The warlock is not in game

buoyant sinew
desert tree
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Changed your name?

buoyant sinew
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a little

peak oracle
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i wanna use maxroll, but i cant

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i figure they may do it after they reveal Falconer

buoyant sinew
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that was how the falconer passives leaked so probably

viral kettle
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do you know if its a known bug that my spells (disintegrate to be precise) keep respecing on its own lol?

dense root
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if you think you've found a bug just report it

desert tree
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Do you have items with + skill?

dense root
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they would rather get duplicates or get reports that turn out not to be bugs than have things go unreported

viral kettle
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i have it that it gets mana on kill, and every so often i lose that node lol

desert tree
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Do you have items with +level to skills? Like +x level to Disintegrate

viral kettle
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let me see

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nope

desert tree
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No +lvl to all skill, or fire skill, nothing at all?

viral kettle
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it can be when i find some new item and i quickly equip it and remove it dps is lower?

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can that unequip the node?

desert tree
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Because loosing the same node over and over looks like you are putting on gear that give you extra level to Disintegrate and then removing it (and maybe putting it back on)

viral kettle
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hm, ok, will look out for that in the future, make sense

dire marsh
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Might be a bit weird.. but what's the best speedy build that doesn't require much setup.. like I played umbral blades BD, but just not really a fan of having to use sync strike every time to do dmg. Also with lich having to manage reaper/death seal cooldowns.. especially death seal having such little uptime xd feels horrible

sinful laurel
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and UB BD, especially the Shadow daggers version, is one of the smoothest fastest gameplays in the entire game

dire marsh
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Well yes and no. Just shifting from a pack doesn't really kill the pack in my experience since it's like 1 umbral blade that gets popped

rugged marlin
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Hello! I really like this game but I have a big trouble. I losing connection to server when changing area in game. It happens maybe 4 of 5 times, so I can repass one area many times in a row. Could you help me?

sinful laurel
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then your damage is low

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one SC plus bladestorm should be enough for sure

livid bear
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Can anyonce confirm, if I leave my legndary item inside the forge in Temporal sanctum and leave the dungeon do i lose the item forever?

sinful laurel
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for trash

sinful laurel
dire marsh
sinful laurel
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what? the aoe is the aoe, you are using bladestorms right?

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dont use explosions for trash

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or for general echoing

livid bear
dire marsh
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Hmm? Idk there's a passive that increases explosion aoe when the blades linger longer

lyric raptor
#

Can someone help me understand how bleed works. According to the game guide it says that "By default each stack deals 53 damage over a 3 second duration". So lets say i manage to get 200 stacks on an opponent (not unusual for my build atm) - When i look at the damage ticks, i only see 300-500 damage being chipped away each second. However 200*53 = 10,600 --> 10,600/3 = ~3533, meaning that it should tick ~3533 per second, but it doesnt

sinful laurel
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but for general mapping, its MUCH smoother and faster to have them not explode and keep spinning

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that plus a low shift CD and you can literally just shift through maps

dense root
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also ticks are more than once per second i'm pretty sure

dire marsh
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Really? Feels like such small aoe without the bigger aoe explosion.. and shift only throws down 1 blade

sinful laurel
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if you take 4/4 in the bladestorm aoe it is fine, but if you dont like it then get used to SS lol

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thats the explode UB playstyle

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or throw them yourself

lyric raptor
dire marsh
desert tree
sinful laurel
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I play a non bladestorm explode UB FYI

sinful laurel
#

the loot missed

near path
sinful laurel
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at least 0

near path
#

could even be greater than -1

dense root
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no

sinful laurel
candid spire
dire marsh
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I'm also kinda anxious about defences for pushing high corruption later but that's mostly just how I think about rogues from most games xd some people say BD can be really tanky and sentinel isn't really tanky

dense root
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you being in denial doesn't change the facts sorry

dire marsh
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(I only played for a few days)

dense root
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no discount on release

sinful laurel
#

BDs main defenses function best on the go

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always moving

near path
#

CAN get quite tanky though situationally

sinful laurel
#

yes

near path
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which is kinda what you need

sinful laurel
#

if you wanna push corr yup

near path
#

best defense for corruption pushing = high speed, quick movement

dire marsh
#

Pushing corr seems fun even though i never did any empowered monos yet xd

sinful laurel
#

its...fun until its not

dire marsh
#

But yeah missing loot sounds pretty bad

sinful laurel
#

honestly, you are likely not missing much killing trash

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95% of your drops come from elites and bosses

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and the caches after

near path
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HOWEVER

dire marsh
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Since you also can't really make loot filter gear show on map with icon like uniques

sinful laurel
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nope, not yet

near path
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a huge chunk of "good" loot comes from objective drops and end of mono rewards

keen quiver
dire marsh
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Would be nice

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But doesn't really matter for most builds realistically

dire marsh
sinful laurel
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well, last thing I will say is there is a good reason so much of the BD playerbase ends up playing a good chunk of UB SD

peak oracle
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at least here you get some

dire marsh
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Well it's like the main viable BD build it seems? Idk

sinful laurel
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its not that its the main one, its that its the most simple braindead one

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and people love one button shit they can smash their face on a keyboard, not think and do well

dire marsh
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I know the lightning chakram is strong and stuff but kinda looks like the exact same gameplay xd just different skill gets popped from clones

sinful laurel
#

its a bit of different gameplay tbh

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more like what you are playing now

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you SS and then chakram and they shotgun out from you and your shadows

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and yes, its very strong

dire marsh
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Yeh that seems fun for bosses but idk how fun that'd be for long sessions mono farming

sinful laurel
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well again, for mono farming you dont need to SS

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the chakram is big enough and definitely enough damage

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that you can throw and move on repeat

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come up on an elite, one SS and chakram and everything is dead, move on

dire marsh
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Yeah i just hate leaving mobs alive when I attack a pack of mobs lol

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Ocd

sinful laurel
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then play shadow cascade

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still SS gameplay

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but melee

dire marsh
#

Might have to try the non explody thing so I don't have to SS all the time

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Paladin/VK also seemed to have some nice braindead builds but slow

sinful laurel
#

idk what you mean by slow but

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i wouldn't agree

dire marsh
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Just what i've seen.. slow base movespeed in the class/spec passives and no real dash ability without a target

buoyant sinew
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paladin and VK have some fast braindead builds

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main issues can be single target damage and tankiness

wide sentinel
sinful laurel
#

it seems like the combo of things you want is so specific that idk if it is possible, to be honest

wide sentinel
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if anything on most maps sentinel is the fastest

dire marsh
#

Ye shield rush is fast but locks you into shield and without stacking mana it's so expensive on mana

wide sentinel
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it doesnt do either if you specialize in it

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you can use it as 2h and also take reduced cost nodes

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so itll be like 25-35 mana

dire marsh
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I see

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But tankiness being an issue also sounds weird to me when I see paladin/VK xd

brittle roost
#

Guys is it possible to transfer an experimental affix? If so how 😂 I’ve shattered a few and can’t get any shards from them but I keep seeing others with exalted items with them

flint yew
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they drop exalted

brittle roost
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Ahh ok

flint yew
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or you use a~~ rune~~ glyph

wide sentinel
buoyant sinew
wide sentinel
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technically we wouldnt miss it if anvil stance was even remotely available or good

dire marsh
#

That's basically what I've read yeah.. the mega ward builds that runemaster has or something are the real tanks xd

sinful laurel
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dont use RM as your metric

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that just isnt fair

brittle roost
wide sentinel
dire marsh
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Fine yeah.. I don't consider RM either way

sinful laurel
#

as are low life rogues

wide sentinel
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if u want to play strong melee build, nothing beats EQ beastmaster now

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espcially ward version

dire marsh
#

Yeh I'd play anything besides mage and primalist honestly.. they don't seem interesting to me

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Spellblade does sound interesting but skills look meh

peak oracle
#

warlock 💪🏻

buoyant sinew
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warlock and all its bustedness will be here soon

peak oracle
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ill somehow make it complete garbage, but its op

wide sentinel
dire marsh
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Warlock sounds cool yeah.. I love Lich archetype aswell but not the cooldown management of reaper/death seal

dire marsh
buoyant sinew
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infernal shade necro is a nice build

wide sentinel
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not a handicap, necro has specific spells that arent available to other classes

buoyant sinew
#

infernal shade warlock looking nicer

wide sentinel
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as spellcaster

dire marsh
buoyant sinew
#

ghost maker

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unique dagger you have to be necro to use

peak oracle
buoyant sinew
#

well, both 😄

dire marsh
#

I hear summons

wide sentinel
buoyant sinew
#

that too

peak oracle
wide sentinel
#

all cool necro self cast builds are focused on dread shade proccing other dps skills

dire marsh
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Killing summons is better ye

dire marsh
wide sentinel
#

one of the examples

peak oracle
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that just looks like a better version of what i wanna do with my Warlock

tall narwhal
#

What is a good class to play as a first time Last Epoch player?
I'm sick of all the DCing in D4.

wide sentinel
dire marsh
peak oracle
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wait the zombies explode on contact?

wide sentinel
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and has 40k ward

wide sentinel
tall narwhal
#

thanks

peak oracle
dire marsh
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I also don't really wanna play a handicap lich without reaper and death seal

flint yew
buoyant sinew
peak oracle
dire marsh
buoyant sinew
# peak oracle what do you plan on making for warlock?

I haven't decided 100% yet but the things I've liked the look of most have been infernal shade with cthonic fissure consuming it, and anguish proc madness using either soul feast or chaos bolts with spirit plague to clear

peak oracle
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hum i honestly have not looked into Infernal Shade at all, the fissure stuff looks interesting ig, but yeah im trying to stay away from it as much as possible

buoyant sinew
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I'm just looking at that fissure infernal shade node and being like, shade is balanced around dealing damage over quite a long duration. if it's suddenly dealing all its damage as fast as I can cast it that must be good

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also getting to auto shade things with profane veil while clearing sounds wonderful

peak oracle
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yeah, i have to look into it better, but i think my idea has 0 auto casts

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for now at least, i cant figure anything out, profane veil can maybe help a bit, but nothing insane

dire marsh
#

Fissure like seems like totem playstyle which is not that interesting to me.. chaos bolts seem nice though

peak oracle
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fissure can proc literally anything, in itself its kinda op

acoustic thicket
#

Is there any info on what season 1 will consist of? trying to figure out how much ill miss out on if I start playing now and dont start over for the season

toxic echo
acoustic thicket
#

What class (now or after release) will be closest to GoD DH Strafe speed build from D3?

near path
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if you want spin2win melee version you can go Warpath on Paladin or VK

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ranged spin2win does not exist

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well, it does kinda sorta but idk if anyone made it non-meme

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probably check Dr3ad's vids he might have a video on it

toxic echo
#

Do minion spin2win count as ranged?

acoustic thicket
toxic echo
# acoustic thicket I appreciate you brother! can you elaborate on what an item faction is?

Be way easier to read about them here. https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/trade-item-factions/61722/9

Last Epoch Forums

Merchant’s Guild Looks like a Ponzi Scheme that requires a constant stream of newbies to work. Moreover, it will feed databases with useless items, over and over, until the server bill explodes and puts down the company. Finally, search’n’buy destroys the whole purpose of loot hunting. ARPG !== Amazon .com RPG Diablo 3 learnt its lesson the...

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Basicly you can go trade, or, solo drop buffs

lunar sonnet
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yeah but the drop buff also works with group, aslong as your friends are in the same map when the item drops

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Group SSF 👍

viral kettle
#

so, do hc characters perma die if they die in arena too?

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or that is separate

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if they do die, i wonder how are ppl so brave to go that high as i saw on a ladder

flint yew
#

brave or just clever use of game mechanics

viral kettle
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ofc, but do they stop when they see last wave was on a verge of dying? 😛

agile junco
#

This is cool and all but, what is infusion?

toxic echo
agile junco
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Not this one tho

icy drift
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Hold control and alt

agile junco
#

OH, nice

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Thank you

tranquil pike
#

I'm traveling and my internet is awful at the moment. Is there any way to play online characters in offline mode temporarily

sharp current
#

No

lethal mural
#

i would lose lots of health and armor, ill test he 3 warpath then if it sucks ill take a risk to remove an affix

quick ruin
#

@here If anyone has issues with disconnects, setup a custom DNS on your router (ideally) or computer.

lethal mural
#

the remove vitality was error ddint change the thing lol

quick ruin
#

I've only dc'd once in about an hour or more.

rare ore
#

Been seeing people mention that EHG has said no launch sale, so pre-order for pet is better than waiting for launch day. Can anyone help verify that 😛

minor vigil
#

yes there will be no sale at launch

#

well

rare ore
#

Seems weird not to imo, slightly extra incentive for people to get in on launch 😛 but alright, tyvm

toxic echo
#

why put it on sale on release when more people will buy it...lol. that makes no sense

rare ore
#

Have you seen basically any indie game release ever, especially from EA?

toxic echo
#

ah yes. definately the pinacle of business strategy

rare ore
#

It kinda is though? Sale on launch helps push people that are on the fence towards buying, while the people that the game is already aimed at either own it already or would buy full price to begin with

icy drift
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It is for indie games since they have little recognition, last epoch has built enough recognition already and the launch is anticipated, this is closer to a AAA release than an indie one at this point.

pastel pebble
#

LE is gettinf some solid recognition in a dedicated/niche community

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I wpuldn't call it AAA but it's got some high hopes on it

rare ore
#

Which is specifically why I was saying a sale helps for those more on the fence, people less into ARPGs than the people that are focused fully on them

near path
#

You have the biggest ARPG streamers rearing to give it a go

rare ore
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Selling LE to the ARPG community isnt hard, selling it to people that arent in it though is the challenge

pastel pebble
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Normally I wouldn't disagree. But in this case it's kinda licky

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Lucky

wide sentinel
pastel pebble
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D4 doesn't have a great rep and is far more expensive, PoE has become known as being too obtuse to newbies, and there's only older titles people hear of

icy drift
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You only do the sale release strat if you're a small release

near path
icy drift
#

If you're a bigger release it's dumb to

pastel pebble
near path
#

Well you CAN, but that's how PR fiascos happen

rare ore
pastel pebble
#

For smaller games it is definitely common enough to do a sale on release

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But this has a lot more namebrand attention

icy drift
#

Exactly

toxic echo
#

this is exactly why i stopped participating in the convo. lol

pastel pebble
#

That's what I mean when I say normally I wouldn't disagree

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Because LE is in an otherwise unique position

icy drift
#

You do a sale on release if all your publicity is asmongold doing a video about your game 6 months before release while reacting to the game Awards or something

wide sentinel
pastel pebble
#

Yeah, D4 was what introduced a ton of people who are now eyeballing something meatier but not as chewy as Poe

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I wanted something less obtuse than PoE and I wasn't a Diablo fan so when I saw this get some good acclaim I picked it up

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Now I'm slowly making people in gen chat discuss Moby Dick with me

wide sentinel
pastel pebble
#

Play Forge King on 1.0

icy drift
wide sentinel
#

i like how more people use class icons as pfp now

icy drift
#

We need them as badges

buoyant sinew
icy drift
#

All I'm saying is they described that corpse like it wanted to be painted a Greek sculpture

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And yes painted not sculpted

wide sentinel
#

i wonder if they will buff spellblade on 1.0

pastel pebble
#

That's every description

wide sentinel
#

maybe add some new fire aura nodes?

pastel pebble
#

Quite literally made the Greeks look asexual

icy drift
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Not wrong

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The arm tattoo made me lose respect though

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Like they thought they would never do better

pastel pebble
#

Ishmael's a neurotic lil champ

icy drift
#

Than a shitty small whale

pastel pebble
#

It's a metaphor for God

icy drift
#

Should be more confident

pastel pebble
#

Platonically

icy drift
#

Only tattoo perfection when you see it

pastel pebble
#

The book goes from bro love to intense platonist speculation so quickly lol

icy drift
#

Not in anticipation of it

pastel pebble
#

Unironically the discussions of the whales are some of the most vivid

#

I think of sections regularly in my daily life

icy drift
#

NGL it did kinda stick

pastel pebble
#

Not even just the jokes but descriptions of bones from various angles, Ahab's monologues on Will/limitations

icy drift
#

I'm still thinking about it

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Made me visualize a nice corpse from the inside

pastel pebble
#

I think some of the ones that stuck to me was Ahab's Soliloquoy, The Armada, On the Whiteness of the Whale

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Cetology is a huge wall to people

#

IDK why, it's very funny

acoustic thicket
#

So when 1.0 releases there’s really no reason to switch to s1 if we already have a toon and some gear and shards right? I mean both legacy and s1 both get updated with all the new stuff ya

wicked plover
acoustic thicket
#

Not at all, just wanna game. Thx for answering

wide sentinel
#

this kinda reminds me of poe sirius

lunar sonnet
#

is there any skill from Rogue - Marksman that can use another weapon then a bow? I can't find anything that changes it yet, so asking if someone knows it.

I feel rogue is super limited in weapon choice.

minor vigil
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there's a unique dagger

toxic echo
#

marksman is designed 100% around the bow. the only things you could do is jelkors dagger for detonating arrow

lethal mural
#

is there a way other that reveling the skill by 1 level to control whats gets changed form +1 skill, when i roved the item it chose a bad skill

toxic echo
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but its either that or bow. its a marksman class...its designed for bow

lunar sonnet
#

yeah I guess i will wait for the falconer then

toxic echo
#

there is a system is uses...but its not really adjustable by the player

lethal mural
#

they need to fix that lol

toxic echo
#

eh. its designed this way for a reason

buoyant sinew
#

it's not broken

#

they specifically make you unable to control it to stop you gear swapping for bosses

lethal mural
#

i hope ill be on accelrated exp

#

takes so long form lebel 19 to 20

toxic echo
#

if its just 1 point likely not accelerated. normally needs a few to get it

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but itll tell you on the exp bar if it is or not

lethal mural
#

that i know yes

acoustic thicket
#

How much gold for a solid t3/t4 lightless arbor?

buoyant sinew
#

it doesn't work

toxic echo
#

maybe more. ive had single rolls that were 12mil

acoustic thicket
#

jesus

flint yew
#

i wouldnt spend more than like 1m on arbor, you get way more keys than you can really spend gold on

acoustic thicket
#

isn't it just not worth it at that point

#

might as well start another and spend less?

toxic echo
#

depends on the mods

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i did not spend the 12 mil on one roll. lol

#

but t4 i think give you like...12 mods for the vault...so its going to get expensive no amtter what you do

wide sentinel
#

it doesnt work but numlock trick always works

lethal mural
#

@toxic echo it does accelarate to 20

lost thorn
#

Are there no support builds in Last Epoch? Where you can support friends etc

toxic echo
#

there are plenty of synergies between classes. but you arent going to find a strictly "healer" or aura bot

night tide
#

Does the "reduced health cost of spells" affix work on harvest?

wide sentinel
#

harvest is not a spell

surreal verge
surreal verge
tall narwhal
#

is there a key to hold and show items that a Loot Filter is blocking?

undone otter
#

I always confuse it with other games

#

take a peep in the keybinds

tall narwhal
#

I just swaped teh Loot Filter off and it was an item that I wanted for my Build, Mages Helm with Elemental Damage, lol

wind oak
#

Theres no crit DMG reduction blessing right? only crit avoid?

tall narwhal
#

yup im new to the game and downloaded on ethat was ment to be for mages, lol

neon path
#

Hey guys, is there a way to display your character name other than Steam name? or are the character names a bit pointless in the social element?

surreal verge
surreal verge
dusty crypt
#

Are the remaining masteries going to be available to play before the launch date?

dense root
#

no

#

they are part of the 1.0 patch

dusty crypt
#

Ah, ok, thanks for the info 🙂

acoustic thicket
#

How do you accurately convert Celsius to Fahrenheit?
#using the ask the community tab correctly

lunar sonnet
#

Which should I try;

  • Lich (harvest / spiritplague build)
  • Forgeguard (Multistrike - Hack and slash build)
  • Spellblade (Electric oriented melee build)
timid kernel
#

Anyone have an opinion on how good the spark swarmblade is ? Got a 3lp enigma , 2lp culiver, and was thinking about it

leaden ice
#

Flat
2h axe: 9% crit
base character crit: 5% crit
skill base crit (passive node): 9% crit

Multiplicative
Ring 1: 78% crit
Ring 2: 36% crit

Would this be the right calculation?
((9 + 5 + 9) * (1 + 0.78 + 0.36)) = 49.22% crit chance with skill

buoyant sinew
buoyant sinew
timid kernel
acoustic thicket
#

whats the best for runemaster sdhould i go lightning or fire

buoyant sinew
timid kernel
buoyant sinew
fleet grail
#

Is there an update on the abysmal rubberbanding for launch?
The teleporting and long loading times to get into a new area being the two most prominent concerns here.
Or will these be addressed in a later patch?

tall narwhal
#

can you take points out of the passive tree?

buoyant sinew
tall narwhal
#

thanks

vague cloak
#

Do you think devs are happy with the skill leveling time when you respecialize into another skill? I mean for a somewhat beginner it would be nice to try different things in the early game but the time to level the skills up is taking far to long so im basically stuck following a guide

flint yew
#

you only really need to keep one main skill specialized while leveling, four other slots are fair game

vague cloak
#

i guess i should try and make up my mind then 😛 will dig info on what to level with. With my runemaster

scenic tinsel
#

So I had a very wide web and used a Vessel of Memory so I could reclear my nodes. It wiped out all my pathing from the start... Did I do this wrong or is there no way to save your path progress?

near path
cinder fossil
#

that's how it works, it uncompletes every node so you can do them again for the reward

near path
#

you are now able to do that path again and claim those same rewards again

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you typically use Memory when you've followed a good set of nodes and want those rewards again. Corruption or idk whatever it's called, the other Memory, is for rerolling the rewards on the whole web, great for RNG has screwed you over and it's all shit

scenic tinsel
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@near path Before coming off rude maybe look yourself. Its says nothing at all about reseting the routes. Just that the node is reset.

surreal verge
#

And if they're reset, they aren't cleared anymore.

near path
scenic tinsel
#

Ah I see. Fucking RIP

near path
#

also it takes a second to Google if you're unsure

#

(can't believe I'm sharing a wiki link but w/e)

plain bone
#

guys , loot filter work?

surreal verge
#

Yes.

frosty pollen
#

Should I clear the whole "echo" before leaving or should i just run for completion, leave and repeat until i complete the "quest echoes"?

frosty pollen
#

Thanks

lethal mural
#

anyone know if time rot void knight 'gets increased by dot ? warpath

surreal verge
robust monolith
#

hi i can´t pick up iteams from the ground+

surreal verge
wide frost
#

Having some technical issues with the game anywhere i can go for some help?

robust monolith
native trellis
#

Are we getting player housing/hideouts in this game btw?

native trellis
#

Ok. That would be cool to have

lethal mural
#

does void peenetration works with melee void too ?

lethal mural
#

kk ty

mint marsh
#

Did we get more endgame content with 1.0?

buoyant sinew
#

more endgame content is meant to be something they're putting a lot of focus on after 1.0

mint marsh
#

Okay thanks

wide sentinel
#

tbf they already have enough endgame content for years

halcyon crescent
#

Which class would you guys consider to be the best starter class to get kinda a forgiving intro into the game? Forgiving as in can take some hits without worrying too much.

#

I’ve enjoyed a rogue class with high movement/evade/crit in other similar games. But not sure how that translates over.

native sail
#

Sentinel is really easy early game but gets progressively more demanding the further you get into endgame until it reaches a point where basically anything else would be smoother. Primalist is just generically good, Druid in particular is really good. Runemaster is currently very strong. Sorc less so.
Bladedancer is alright but relies on player skill somewhat in endgame. Lich is currently bugged to be several orders of magnitudes stronger than it should be. Necro is, honestly, very well balanced.

halcyon crescent
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Is bladedancer kinda a rogue?

#

And I assume sentinel is a bowman or something?

surreal verge
#

Rogue-> Bladedancer, Marksman
Sentinel-> forge Knight, Paladin, Void Knight

native sail
#

^

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LE has five base classes (Mage, Rogue, Primalist, Sentinel, and Acolyte) which have three masteries (akin to ascendancies in PoE) each, though two masteries aren't out yet.

Rogue: Bladedancer, Marksman, or Falconer (this one isn't out yet)
Acolyte: Necromancer, Lich, or Warlock (this one isn't out yet)
Mage: Sorcerer, Runemaster, Spellblade
Sentinel: Forge Guard, Paladin, Void Knight
Primalist: Beastmaster, Shaman, Druid

clear sand
robust tundra
#

Am I doing something wrong with monolith/build progression? I'm level 77 running Reign of Dragons and the boss stomps me. Should I be running lower level monoliths to catch-up to level 85? Should I be increasing corruption? Where should I be farming gear?

tribal bone
#

Are you dodging his aoe?

clear sand
surreal verge
tribal bone
#

I did it at around your level aswell Kata

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First time I went in I ignored mechanics and got deleted

surreal verge
#

If it's not that, I hope you have necrotic resist

robust tundra
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Where can I get better gear? Maybe stomp was the wrong word. I know the mechanics, but the fight prolongs for so long that it's that it's easier to make 1 mistake and die. Tho maybe that's how it's supposed to be.

surreal verge
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And well, crafting decent drops into good equipment

clear sand
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Have you tried using Ice, Fire and Ice Invocation? It gives you a buff that has Damage reduction and grants you ward

robust tundra
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I get my ward from Flame Ward, but the timing has to be correct. Also, another issue is that I'm still running Avarice because I don't have any way of leeching.

clear sand
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That's an easy way of get tankier without too much effort but yeah, crafting is a big part of the game and you should be using it

robust tundra
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Thanks for the help btw

clear sand
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Do you have runes of ascendances?

robust tundra
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3 or so

clear sand
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Maybe you can YOLO a good unique with those

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Which build you're going for?

robust tundra
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Ball Lightning, taken from MaxRoll.

clear sand
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Sec

robust tundra
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My bad, Static Orb

clear sand
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Oh I see

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So you're a mage?

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Sorcerer*

robust tundra
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Yes

clear sand
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Oh, I can't help you with the build

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I did a static orb build but is pretty end game and I used the spinning tech

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But was full endgame gear

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Are you using lightning blast as well?

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I would spec lightning blast into the "chains the same target" thing

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But idk the problem for now seems to be defenses

fluid mason
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I really want to play a slam build in 1.0. What classes/subclasses should I be looking at?

fluid mason
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Noice. Thank you.

polar edge
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is chapter 8 the last chapter for now?

clear sand
# robust tundra Yes

Try crafting some HP on your gear and necrotic/physical resistances if you're lacking

tribal bone
pulsar prism
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Hello, regarding max resistance, the game says each world level reduce resistance by 1%. So if you want to keep 75% resistance in level 100 maps, we need to have 175% resistance?

surreal verge
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At lv 100, 75% res = 0%, at 25% res= -50%.

cursive sky
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Hey guys, anyone had the bug of not being able to complete the The Keeper's vault quest?

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I can't find Leena in the city where the quest is telling me to complete it

celest lichen
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Hey guys is it even worth it to open the Chest at the end of every Monolith or why do we have 2 rewards at the end of every map?

native sail
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The chest spits rewards based on the amount of mobs you kill in the echo. It does not stack across echoes, just open it.

celest lichen
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thx

surreal verge
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Just open it it's free gold

celest lichen
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Why would i need Gold?

surreal verge
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Shattering runes, stashes, lightless arbor

acoustic thicket
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What does it mean when I've explored an area but the map pin shows the star-icon and "waypoint locked"?

surreal verge
acoustic thicket
lone furnace
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How does "Increase damage per arrow with Multishot" work ?

  • Does it increase 20% damage of each arrow ?
  • Does it increase 20% damage for each arrow I shoot ?

Because I shoot 17 arrows, so the 1rst option would increase my damage by 20% but the second one by 340% which is clearly not the same thing ! pika_laugh

acoustic thicket
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My equipped 2H Staff suddenly disappeared while in combat. My inventory was closed, and it didn't drop. Do items break, or is it bug?

clear sand
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sometimes items disappear for no reason

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relogging usually fix that

acoustic thicket
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Thanks, but I relogged and it's still gone 😕

clear sand
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check there

acoustic thicket
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Aha there it is, snuck off into crafting menu, thanks 👍

clear sand
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😄

hardy spoke
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Guys, everything we have before 1.0 will be untradable correct?

I think I will get rid of most of my stuff or shatter everything

clear sand
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keep it for now

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you can always run some testing with the gear if you need it

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is not like you need the stash tabs now

lone furnace
lone furnace
clear sand
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i have no idea how it works

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never been a fan of multishot

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back in D2 i refused doing a multishot amazon

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just gilded and ice arrow for me

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strafe was nice as well

lunar sonnet
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Which should I try;

  • Lich (harvest / spiritplague build)
  • Forgeguard (Multistrike - Hack and slash build)
  • Spellblade (Electric oriented melee build)
lunar sonnet
clear sand
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is not great

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and multistrike is only suited for clearing

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lacks a lot on the single target damage department

lunar sonnet
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ow rooThink

native sail
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(Also don't touch Harvest, it's pretty close to the worst melee skill in the game)

clear sand
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is not that bad tho

native sail
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It is

clear sand
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only highly dependant on high end gear

native sail
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It takes about 3 times the investment of many other melee skills to do at max half the damage

surreal verge
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By high end we mean "Very high end"

clear sand
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oh yeah

lunar sonnet
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let me guess, scaling is just bad?

native sail
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Extremely, yes

surreal verge
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This stupid line.

native sail
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Don't get me started on the tree

surreal verge
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To be fair, it at least has +9% base crit

native sail
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Where are the multipliers Smadge

surreal verge
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So it's a usable build.

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Just...oof

lunar sonnet
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but FG - Multistrike / hack and slash has better scaling though.
especially combingin it with forge hammer no?

surreal verge
clear sand
native sail
surreal verge
native sail
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I've used an LP1 Death's Embrace and I still went "why don't I just play Rive"

surreal verge
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...But it's also hit only

clear sand
native sail
surreal verge
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Exactly-

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It has one more, but it's damn poison

native sail
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That's not real

surreal verge
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And we all know how good poison is

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(Shit)

clear sand
native sail
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RIP poison Flurry

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Your 98mil was very funny

lunar sonnet
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so ... basically stuck with spellblade then xD

native sail
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Lucky for you, @icy drift is an expert

lunar sonnet
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i guess variety in builds aren't really an option for a lot of classes yet?

clear sand
icy drift
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Wazzap

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I've been summoned

native sail
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Call it bad luck

lunar sonnet
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lols its the reason i was interested in Falconer atm, since i might not be stuck forced into dual wield dagger / sword or bow ...

native sail
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Falconer is shaping up to be interesting

surreal verge
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You also picked the weakest builds of those classes

lunar sonnet
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that just means they will be buffed in 1.0 right #Copium

native sail
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Surely

icy drift
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Bro you're gonna overdose stop

native sail
icy drift
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That's like me saying surely they'll touch spellblade with a 10 foot pole

native sail
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If Acid Flask is still bad I'm going to eat Steve's appendix.

icy drift
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I just want RM to get nerfed into the fucking grave

native sail
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Everyone does

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it won't

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Sadly

icy drift
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I'd legit be fine if they made it the worst mastery in the game

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It needs time off

lunar sonnet
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Which should I try;

  • Lich (harvest / spiritplague build)
  • Forgeguard (Multistrike - Hack and slash build)
  • Spellblade (Electric oriented melee build)

so basically, hope they QoL the first 2 and please try spellblade sinds it doesnt suck as much.

surreal verge
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Hey, we still have shattered lance necro!

icy drift
native sail
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I cannot type

lunar sonnet
icy drift
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I'm gonna be real with you

native sail
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SURGE! HUUU GigaChad

icy drift
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As a Spellblade to spellblade

native sail
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Oh

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They could do the weird Static thing

icy drift
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I don't wanna say it deias

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Surge CAN work

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It can do good damage

native sail
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Surge is surprisingly alright

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It's just kinda weird

icy drift
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Personally

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Having your damage also be your traversal skill

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Is a super annoying playstyle

lunar sonnet
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i was also looking into if spellblade + bow was an option rooKek

icy drift
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Lol

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That could've been cool

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Maybe someday

lunar sonnet
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I know ...

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but its all melee

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i feel limited

icy drift
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But yeah just don't try to make flame reave work

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Surge you can do

surreal verge
lunar sonnet
icy drift
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Lul

surreal verge
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Dissapointment 2: Only Rogue has bow skills, THAT'S why.

lunar sonnet
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that i am aware of...

native sail
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Bows are the only weapons that are class locked across the board

lunar sonnet
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bows (in my opinion) is basically every x attack do something, stack att speed and crit

feels so boring

surreal verge
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Using a bow in any other class, currently, makes 0 sense

icy drift
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Enchanting your bow as a spell(blade) would be pretty thematic

lunar sonnet
icy drift
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Like you enchant your arrows with elements and stuff

lunar sonnet
dusky kite
lunar sonnet
icy drift
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Yeah Spellblade has like 3 builds total