❔┃ask-the-community

[solid tartan]

On glacier for mage it has a 80% less mana consumption node leading to a 40% more (x2) node

[icy drift]

They'd cancel each other out

[solid tartan]

Ok so they're additive with each other not multiplicative then

[icy drift]

Mmm in this case yes

I'm mot confident to say that that wording will always be consistent everywhere

[solid tartan]

The reason I ask is because if you want to maintain parity on "less/more" modifiers they would be multiplicative

[icy drift]

They have some wording oddities still

It's kinda like when they say, you cast, cast, directly cast and so on

[solid tartan]

I'll test it

[icy drift]

Do so, I'm pretty sure they cancel each other out in this case and are additive

But I can't say for certain as you can tell lul

[solid tartan]

If you have no other modifiers to mana on your character, then if it's multiplicative it should be (base mana cost x 0.36), and if it's additive it would be (base mana cost x 1)

0.36 is taken from
100 x 0.2 x 1.8
100 representing 100%
0.2 being the 0.2 effective multiplier from less mana consumption
1.8 being both points allocated from the 40% more mana consumption node (which should always be additive with itself because it's the same source)

[solid tartan]

The Lesser Glacier and the following isolated node for the Glacier skill on Mage are in fact additive and not multiplicative despite the wording being "more"

[faint cape]

Yep, there are still a few cases of inappropriate use of 'more', 'less', 'increased', and 'reduced', like that one. They do typically include the (multiplicative with other modifiers) statement when they truly are more/less, but not always.

[solid tartan]

I've heard a decent bit about bugs, typos, and description errors being already fixed in 1.0 and just not in the current version so I'm not really worried about it tbh, more just immediately curious because I'm trying to figure out shenanigans

[faint cape]

Yeah, the two areas where I feel like the descriptions are the most hazy in still are conversions and cooldown recovery, I recommend testing those typically before doing any builds relying on them

[icy drift]

Yup, I've played the game enough to where my intuition is more reliable than the ingame text most of the time now lol

Can never be too careful though so I'd always test before trusting either one

[solid tartan]

I'd tested it and figured it out in this case

That's why I said it definitively

With 62 base mana cost and 80% less with 40% more it landed at 37.2 (rounded up to 38) instead of 17

[strange solstice]

is there a way to block people to just not see their chat logs

[astral tiger]

really dumb question but is LE like POE where you lose xp on death?

[icy drift]

No

[sick dock]

In regards to Frost Claw being converted to lightning, the spell desc says that frostbite damage is converted to shock damage. But what about freeze chance?

It doesnt speciifically mention that at all

like other skills

[sinful laurel]

It loses freeze chance

Also, shock isn't damage. Just fyi

[sick dock]

right i meant to say chance

So taking a node that increases freeze chance wont convert the freeze chance to shock chance

[sinful laurel]

No

Technically it will still have the frm, like for reowyns veil, it just can't freeze

[acoustic thicket]

as level 53 paladin resifine? not all maxed when in town, but this is outside of town stats

[faint cape]

Yep, no need to perfectly cap them all, like you could replace some lightning and poison res with more health/endurance/armor etc. You do need more than just resists for your defenses, though.

[acoustic thicket]

yeah, touch the ice with stick softly befor fixing later things 😄

[mental prism]

Question on upcoming trade system, are you able to shatter bought items for crafting and are those crafting mats restricted to MG or can you use it for CoF items?

[faint cape]

You can salvage purchased items for shards like normal, yes. Gold and crafting materials are never restricted to any faction.

It wouldn't be worth your time to swap to MG just for that if you do CF, though. Shards are relatively easy to get for both

[mental prism]

I often find that I don't have enough shards for stuff like specific skill levels when switching builds

so was thinking it may be worth it to get MG to lvl 1 at least so I can buy items with those skills to salvage

[faint cape]

If you highlight all class-specific affixes T4+ (or T5+ later on) in your filter to salvage, you'll get them all, especially on classes you play often

[high barn]

I am trying to farm for Aberrant Call, which is a drop in the level 62 timeline. But I am overleveled and find it very tedious to go to such a low level timeline for farming. Is there any other way of obtaining this unique without having to farm in low level content?

For example, will I be able to access all these timelines later on at level 100 difficulty when I get to end game?

Or is progressing through all the corruptions the only way to increase the difficulty of these low level timelines?

[formal parcel]

you're gonna want to complete the level 90 monos, then use the thing in the middle of them to unlock empowered. then you'll be able to start a level 100 version of your desired timeline, which is strictly better for loot

[high barn]

Oh thats fantastic! Thank you

Then i won't farm for it until I get to level 90

What build would you recommend for necromancers if I don't have a single unique for any build?

[faint cape]

Aberrant call can drop anywhere high enough level, so you might get it on the way. Boneshatter is a strong build with a kinda strange playstyle that has no gear reqs

[high barn]

Ok! Thanks for the tip!

[supple moat]

Can someone suggest me a good map clear / farmer build
I tried sorcerer (static orb) and I'm lv90 but didnt like the spec, kinds of feel underpowered

is lich or runemaster a better choice?

[wide sentinel]

runemaster is just better sorc in every single aspect

also strange that static orb sorc felt underpowered to you, its a very strong build even after nerfs

[opal nest]

Does "Damage while Channeling" affect attack/spells that lingers before we start the channeling?
e.g: Casting Volcanic Orb > Focus (channel)
does the volcanic orb damage is increased when we start channeling focus?

[surreal verge]

No

[opal nest]

i see ty for the confirmation

[supple moat]

my biggest problem is mana issues but I also dont have great items

it is my 3rd day

[wide sentinel]

well yes then it makes sense,its not a cheap build

unless im missing smth, it needs gear to feel good but then its strong

[supple moat]

well it takes pretty long to farm empowered monoliths

maybe bcuz I'm lv90

so I'm doing normal monoliths to level up, get some gear for now

have no prob on normal ones, pretty smooth but empowered ones, I dont have enough dmg to 1-2 shot packs

[pallid tulip]

Does anyone have any suggestion for a build that is tanky (as close to immortal as possible) with at the same time low APM requirement (Few active skills/ non-complex rotation etc.) for my young son to play with me? 🙂

[desert tree]

Frostbite Frostclaw

90% of it is right click

You get to 10k ward once you have a little bit of gear

[pallid tulip]

Cool I will look into that build

[thin shadow]

Hey all, just wondering i haven't played since march 2023 or something i am playing again now but i am lost. I am lvl 58 spellblade up to the monoliths but my build doesnt feel the same and i dont know what my item do anymore. Any guidance will be appericated thanks.

[shrewd sandal]

does added ele dmg work like in PoE? for example, if i'm using a skill that does (according to its tag) physical dmg and no ele, if i get a weapon with added cold dmg, will the skill add that ele dmg to its overall dmg?

[surreal verge]

Your passive tree got reset since RM dropped.

[surreal verge]

Yes, flat is added as long as it matches the skill type (Melee, Spell, Throwing, Bow)

[shrewd sandal]

alright cool, so having +5 cold dmg on my bow will add cold dmg to flurry (for example) which has only phys tag

[desert tree]

Check Perry The Pig on yt

[desert tree]

Yes, the tags are here to convert Adaptive Flat Dmg

[shrewd sandal]

ohh ok

so that helps with mods such as "+melee dmg"

?

[desert tree]

Like +x Bow Dmg

[shrewd sandal]

i see

excellent ty

are there some 3rd party tools for build making or anything useful?

[thin shadow]

what is rm

[surreal verge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/

[surreal verge]

Runemaster.
TLDR:Check your passive tree.

[shrewd sandal]

ty

[rugged wing]

are we going to have to make new characters to participate in the 1.0 features after it comes out? or do previously created characters have access?

[desert tree]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1187326924754788362

[opal nest]

does this mean when i get hit by enemies?

[low coyote]

Yes

[opal nest]

i see ty for the confirmation

[desert tree]

When hit > you are getting hit
On hit > you are hitting

[shrewd sandal]

anyone encountering some bug that makes projectiles not have a hitbox? i started a rogue character today with bow build (i tried using flurry/puncture and exploding arrow) and the skills would not work

animation wouldn't show, then when it finally showed the projectiles would just fly through the act 2 boss i was fighting with no hitbox, no dmg

exploding arrow (or detonating arrow, forgot the name) wouldn't attach to the mobs i was aiming at, it would fly through them and not explode at all

[low coyote]

On a side note, anyone ever made a build leaning heavily into this stat? Taking it as blessing, and on idols etc. Is there a point where you get your chance up sufficiently high to generate more ward than you might lose through taking hits?

[surreal verge]

Flurry and detonationg arrow has bugs that makes it very hard to hit

Don’t use them

[opal nest]

I got similiar build concept on my Paladin,
instead of Ward when Hit, its a Health Gain on Block,.

It ended up can tank continous hit like ice needle turret and recovering my hp instead

[supple moat]

can I farm boss uniques on normal monos instead of empowered ones?

[olive tinsel]

Depends on the Unique. Every boss has 2 normal drops where one of them drops guaranteed.
1 rare drop that can drop on normal as well.
1 super rare drop that can only drop on empowered.

Some bosses have even more items in their drop pool

[supple moat]

I'm trying to farm Prism Wraps and Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros

but I'm not powerful enough to farm empowered ones so I was thingking of doing normal ones

is it a bad idea? (3 days old char)

[olive tinsel]

I made a meme build once, because I found a 4LP Close Call Shield.

I made a Blade Dancer Rogue with Ward Trial close Call and Raindance.

Against many small hits it was basically immortal and even for slower harder hits my hp would go up and down all the time but not becoming dangerous

I could afk Arena wave 150 or so and not die

[fickle mantle]

is it normal to get stuck in loading an echo?

when playing with others?

[olive tinsel]

That relic is not a empowered only drop, so you can definitely farm it on normal, but it is a lot rarer to get via normal boss kills.

What is important. %Inc. Item Rarity from corruption and Enemy Modifiers does increase chances for Bosses to drop their rare drops.

So ideally you want to farm enough stability for the boss and then stack a few enemy modifiers before doing the boss.

Ideally modifiers that don't make it too hard for your build.

For Emporer of Corpses I would suggest not taking Frenzy or Enrage, this makes his Big Aoe way more punishing because it is cast way faster

[steel merlin]

you depend a lot on your luck though

if thats the bottleneck of your build right now, theres a high chance you burn out before you get it

[cedar locust]

Not always though it can happen - are you playing on the same server?

[fickle mantle]

I play on NEA since it has better ping, he prefers SEA so I get "TP'ed" to SEA since he's PL

[cedar locust]

Something worth trying is logging out, choosing the same server from the Log-in page, then joining a Party - this can be more stable than playing on different servers or changing servers in game!

It's also a good idea to let the Party leader enter and fully load the echo before the rest of the party follows, this makes sure you'll be loading on to the same server instance 🙂

[supple moat]

If I craft the following exalted item with a unique, it can take both the static orb and lightning blast skill affixes onto itself right ?

https://i.imgur.com/CFRr1va.png

[native sail]

Yes but it's gonna take some luck

[faint cape]

And it needs 2 LP or more, of course

[frail knot]

I'm following the Maxroll Rive VK guide atm and need 4 uniques (Siphon of Anguish, Shattered Chains, Titan Heart and Auroras Time Glass).

Can I get Titan Heart/Auroras from Rune of Ascendance? Pretty sure I can't get the other 2.

[toxic echo]

you can. though auroras is one of the rarest amulets in the game. titans is a bit more common

[frail knot]

Thanks, I think I'll try my luck on chest pieces then, or just try for Jasper's Searing Pride with more LP. I think the chance of getting LP with Rune of Ascendance is really low though right?

[merry chasm]

Hi does it make sense to try to target farm set gear when I am in the early game or should I progress the monoliths? I was doing the blood,frost and death map over and over to get the lichs scorn from the ice boss(forgot his name). But gave up after like 5h and I thought maybe it would be better to just progress map and come back to it. I read in a post that when you clear all maps that it will be easier to gain corruption and farm rare items?

[toxic echo]

lower than dropping in the wild, yes

only ever got 1lp from it

[merry chasm]

I also noticed that you can kill the boss and as long as you dont speak to the person to complete the quest you can redo the boss again but I noticed that the boss drops less/no rare loot if you do it this way. Is this intented to prevent fast boss rushing?

[random isle]

Are there any mods yet to improve controller input /acessability?

[dense root]

yes

the boss should be dropping literally nothing when you do this

[dense root]

not that i know of

but also i'd caution you that using third party software to change how the game reads your inputs can result in ehg suspending your account

[toxic echo]

generally you dont really want to farm normal monoliths. empowered monoliths are better to farm in for items (corruption item rarity) and greater blessings.

particualrly monolith bosses, you have to re-earn their stability inorder to get their boss drops. there are only a couple monlith bosses you can go back into without refarming all the stability, but generally not worth it, since the drops you want are locked after the first fight with the stab

[dense root]

they unofficially allow certain things that don't really provide an advantage and what you're thinking of might fall into that category but like just be aware of the risk you're taking on

[cedar locust]

While there is nothing official, Steams in built controller customisation opens up a lot of possibilities! Are you you trying to set up anything in particular?

[merry chasm]

Okay thank you very much^^ Gonna finish the rest then

[faint cape]

In addition to what the other folks have said, it may be worthwhile to mention official support for controllers is a 1.0 feature, so that should be a significant improvement (though I'm sure it'll still need work)

[timid tangle]

How is multiplayer running in the current version of Last Epoch? I played with 3-4 mates about a year ago, and the game would end up in a constant state of rubber banding and crashing, if we where all in the same game - Is that still the case, or has it gotten better/worse? Thanks for reading 🙂

[toxic echo]

it is better, but it is not perfect. still people having parting issues, but plenty have no issues. but its a very case by case basis. its a constant work in progress for the devs up to and past 1.0

[cedar locust]

If you play on different servers, you can get a more stable connection by all choosing the same server at log-in and letting the party leader load into a zone fully before everyone else follows. There are also 3rd Party programs that have helped other players improve their stability in Parties.

[wicked plover]

did anyone ever try to make lunge work as main dmg skill

[native sail]

Trust me, don't even try it

[dense root]

it doesn't work

i am confident in this

[surreal verge]

Peepeepoopoo damage.

[wicked plover]

sadge, thought it could be like d3 raekor, but base dmg is 2, thats a bit underwhelming

[low coyote]

Needs to be buffed to 0 CD, 5000% movespeed while lunging and 20 lunges per second.

[faint cape]

Pretty much all melee skills have a base damage of 2, that's not the issue

[native sail]

Cooldown based with no real damage support in its tree and nothing in game that significantly alters it to be usable as a damage skill

[wicked plover]

?

half of lunges tree is for its own damage

maybe not exactly half, but a very good chunk of it

[steel merlin]

yesnt

[faint cape]

It's the cooldown and the issue that a lot of its stuff is related to rewarding long range lunges

[native sail]

Not the way you're hoping

[faint cape]

and added damage scaling is 100%

[native sail]

It has a bunch of more modifiers, sure. It has next to no increases, and no good source of flat outside of weapon (which is still iffy). Plus terrible uptime and bad added scaling.

Also the only flat crit in its tree is with spear. And spears are the worst weapon type in the game bar none.
Sure you can get flat crit on sword or axe or what have you but the more the better

[faint cape]

For comparison, void cleave has 400% added damage scaling, tons of more multis that are better than lunge's, and a faster cooldown. With all that, it's capable of being a clear skill. (Oh yeah, and a much larger area)

[steel merlin]

theres that crit spear

[native sail]

There are no spears in Last Epoch

[surreal verge]

[dusky kite]

the damage values of nearly everything snapshots when you cast the spell, thus the damage of your VO won't update dynamically with stats you gain or lose over its duration

[steel merlin]

dunno, i like this one

also the judicator base looks nice 🤔

[native sail]

Check their affixes

[wicked plover]

i did like the spear passives on lunge
kinda want to use this
but there are no good phys unique spears

[native sail]

Now check what skills support them

[steel merlin]

what are they missing?

[native sail]

The problem is that they aren't missing anything. But there's no real benefit to them. Other two-handers do everything they do but with more in-skill support nearly across the board, not to mention that most classes that are using two-hand also have more support in their passives for other weapon types than spears.

[wicked plover]

is javelin literally the only skill that utilizes spears?

[dense root]

serpent strike

[steel merlin]

the problem is not so much the skils but as deias said the support in general

[native sail]

That skill has way more issues tbh. The fact that it's basically relegated to "the skill that makes Swarmblade have stupid defenses and nothing else" kinda hurts

[steel merlin]

like this kind of thing

there is no melee phys if wielding spear and stuff like that

same with passive tree

[faint cape]

Hey now, it also gives armblade slash a strong cull!

[wicked plover]

yea i noticed

[dense root]

ok but they asked if other skills cared about spears

like the answer is yes

those skills sucking isn’t my problem

[native sail]

Or like Warpath having buffs for everything melee except spears

[dense root]

tbf spinning with a spear makes no sense

[steel merlin]

tbh spiky warpath sounds weird

theres a glaive base, that coudl work

[faint cape]

It'd probably still hurt to get smacked with a spear, just maybe not quite the same way

[steel merlin]

i unspecced my right click to test stuff and now it is gone

[native sail]

The point I'm trying to make is that there's a lot of skills that have buffs for specific melee weapons but the only ones that mention spears are Lunge (which is not a damage skill) and Jav (which is unironically better as a skill to proc Smite with 1H/Shield)

[faint cape]

but yeah, generally there is no spear class, just some random one-offs

jav was actually good on release since there was a spear that gave generic crit

[native sail]

Jav needs attack speed buffs imo

[faint cape]

haven't used jav as an actual attack since they deleted that lol

[steel merlin]

i wanted to try splitting jav but read it is bugged currently

[native sail]

Still is afaik

[low coyote]

Spinning, just spinning, makes no sense whatsoever as a form of attacking anyone.

[faint cape]

but it's cool

[desert tree]

Maybe we could have a poison conversion of Warpath, because you spinned to much and now you are throwing up on your enemies

[low coyote]

How can you be fine with warpath as a skill in the first place, but draw the line at osmeone doing it with a spear as being the absurd bit.

[steel merlin]

because if you are going to do weird stuff, at least use the edge of your weapon while doing it

[low coyote]

AND of all the weapons, spear is actually one of the few that you actually spin around as part of its moveset

(from a kung fu perspective)

https://tenor.com/view/thedragonprince-sarai-spear-kung-fu-harrow-gif-15712680

[dense root]

animated shows are definitely a great example of how weapons get used in the real world

but also it’s simple

if i’m warpathing with a big sword they’re going to get hit by the edge

if i’m warpathing with a club they’re going to get clubbed

if i’m warpathing with a spear they’re most likely going to get hit by the long wooden handle

[low coyote]

and if you use a spear, they get hit by the speartip

[dense root]

no because the spear tip is a fairly small portion of the spear

[faint cape]

Well, if we're gonna get too real world here, spears are just the best weapon and we can delete most of the weapon types except maybe like sword and bow

[low coyote]

Pretty much

Spears are abosutely OP

[steel merlin]

thats why they have to be nerfed in LE

[wicked plover]

got so many chars lined up to farm gear for but with cof at the horizon it kinda feels lame to do that now

[vale thistle]

there's some merit to hammers and mauls tbh

good luck killing rock monsters or constructs efficiently with a spear

[steel merlin]

don quixote could have used a hammer against the windmills instead of the spear

[wicked plover]

but how he gonna poke em in the eye with a hammer

[faint cape]

The world if Quixote used a hammer: <insert utopia flying cars meme>

[low coyote]

Can I interest you in a Lucerne Mace?

[glacial owl]

Hey everyone! Got a noob question. I started playing a SpellBlade, and some skills have additonal effect "for each equiped sword", but I can't seem to equip more than a single sword. What am i doing wrong? 🤔

[wicked plover]

got the passive that allows you to dual wield?

maybe have a look at that

[glacial owl]

Probably not, where would I find that, is it in the passive tree? ^^'

[wicked plover]

yep spellblade passive

[glacial owl]

Found it, thank you!

[supple moat]

https://i.imgur.com/RUgUFml.png

what is that sphere ice effect?

it procs off of something on me but not sure what it is

[toxic echo]

glacier has an ice nova thing that i think looks like that

[supple moat]

I'm not using glacier

static orb build

could it be that?

[toxic echo]

also some in runic invocation and ele nova.

nah, dont think so, thats just a stat buff. doesnt say anything about a skill proc

[supple moat]

it says when I hit or I'm hit, it procs whirling snow

I guess the name corresponds to the graphic

[mellow mist]

For Bladedancer is it better to go with Shadow Cascade or synchronized strike after hitting the monolith?

[sinful laurel]

SS is generally a skill that leads to other skills, as a good shadow generator.

Idk of anyone that has mained SS as an actual damage skill, but most bds use it

[mellow mist]

ok thanks. I am nowhere near that point yet just trying to plan ahead. appreciate it

[fair maple]

Whats the best way to get an Alchemist Ladle? Been playing for about 200 hours multiple characters, still havent seen it :/

[icy drift]

Mad alchemists ladle or normal ladle?

Mad alchemists only drops from exiled mages found in rune prisons

[supple moat]

https://i.imgur.com/KC0Uw1Q.png

does that mean it will be guaranteed 15x upgrade ?

[toxic echo]

yes. 15 random affix upgrades

[acoustic thicket]

why I cant play it's maintenance?

[unreal hawk]

what is that "weaver's will" thing?

[cedar locust]

As you kill mobs, the item will get 15 random affix upgrades 🙂

[unreal hawk]

damn

that's nice

[fair maple]

Thank you very much !

[dusky kite]

• remove all weapon types
• add 91281 variants of spears with various crap on top
• move greatswords into polearms

[faint cape]

It's a little ice vortex effect. There are a few things that generate that vfx, I'd need to look at your build to tell you exactly which thing. Also, some enemies do generate those.

[unreal sonnet]

sorry if this has been asked 100 times but will 1.0 come with a propper ladder (as in whos first in xp, whos first to beat boss xy etc.)

okay ive found out by searching there will be a ladder, just still wondering what the main aspect is to climb, xp?

[wide sentinel]

i dont think there is any reason for that since lvl 100 is much easier to reach compared to path of exile for example, same for bosses

like its not even an achievment

ladder will be based around pushing arena

its been like that almost since start of open beta

[dusky kite]

Tbh with the announced changes to corruption I'd expect to have that ladder as well

[wide sentinel]

ya would be cool

tho tbh wouldnt really want to open it and see 99 runemasters on top

[unreal sonnet]

just filter by class

[hearty meteor]

playing a Flame Wraith Necro atm and it's pretty button intensive. what is the "Righteous Fire" equivalent in Last Epoch? (just any easy, chill, walking, or spin to win build ^^)

[toxic echo]

warpath(sentinel) is literally spin to win. just gotta hold the button and aim with the mouse. you can add buttons if you want, but dont really have to

[pastel pebble]

Probably closest is something like Judgement focusing on Conscecrated Ground. But that's still a few buttons as well

[toxic echo]

really isnt an RF build. but ya judgement aura is close. wandering spirits is also kinda close, but not as good

[hearty meteor]

oh it doesn't have to be RF. i just mean it as an example of something that is really simple to blast echos with ^^

only other build i've played is Shield Crash or something AGES ago (like 2/3+ years ago)

[manic cave]

is the stress test still going on? getting a weird bug where my hydras just dont summon half the time. enemies are still able to hit me just fine though

[toxic echo]

yeah, its just a really common question. lol. nothing really that compares, but those two would be the closest. and then warpath

[toxic echo]

stress test isnt for like another 12 hours or something. wait its not even the right day. lol

[hearty meteor]

so Judgement and Warpath? awesome, will check them out :>

[manic cave]

oh, its just a bug then

[hearty meteor]

i just had a bug at the end of my first Julra where you merge an exalted tier mod onto an lp unique

i sealed it but it didn't close and was uninteractable

but luckily it was just two random items and nothing important

[toxic echo]

you put the items in the divine era, and then have to swtich back to the ruined era to pick up

[dense root]

you weren’t able to get the item when you switched eras?

[hearty meteor]

oh i have to switch to different era

[toxic echo]

yea

[hearty meteor]

maybe that was it

i was able to interact with it in whichever era i was in

[toxic echo]

its sealed in there for "eternity"

[hearty meteor]

i didn't attempt to switch between the two tho

[wide sentinel]

Kekw

[faint cape]

There are walking simulator builds, typically for shaman and void knight. They aren't the best in the world, but they definitely work

[hearty meteor]

more so just any non-button intensive build

Flame Wraith Necro is surprisingly intense

[faint cape]

Locust swarm is like blade vortex, but it does use some buttons

[hearty meteor]

expected Flame Golems POE experience lol

[faint cape]

Heh, I'd say solo minions are minimally button intensive if you choose to make them that way. There is a good variety in one button builds, too.

[frozen loom]

Are steam achievements coming out with the big release?

[wide sentinel]

there are few 1 button builds like shaman thorn totems, but usually in LE the more buttons u press the more benefits u get, so a lot of builds can be played with 1 button but you will also miss a lot of damage or defenses from doing so

[stone zephyr]

Been a while since I played, when I did coop with a friend before there were some issues, as it currently stands how does coop work? Does it progress both peoples quest states?

[faint cape]

Don't think so. They will come eventually for sure, though.

[faint cape]

Yeah, both people get progress on everything except corruption. There is still some jank and loading screens are a bit long, some of it has workarounds currently and hopefully 1.0 improves it a lot, since bug fixes are a big part of the release.

[ruby pulsar]

Anyone has this font issue?

[stark lodge]

this is probably a dumb question, but is the golden guppy the only pre-order bonus? Like can I upgrade to the ultimate edition when I'm less broke later and still get all the stuff in it?

the release date for being less broke is TBD so could be awhile xD

[balmy current]

Yes, known issue

[ruby pulsar]

No setting I need to change to fix it I guess?

[native sail]

It's a bug. Solved for 1.0 iirc

[ruby pulsar]

Another question, anyhow to 'press' dialogue options with a keyboard press?

Something like space or e is commonly used in games.

[native sail]

I think enter for "single option" dialogues

[cedar locust]

You should have the guppy regardless if you own the base game 🙂

The pre-order items can be purchased as a separate bundle in one of the UPGRADE packs for as long as those items are in the Store!

[soft beacon]

heya, i am thinking of picking up the game this weekend, how hard is it to gear solo self found in this? are items hard to assess for a new player, i have a good bit of arpg experience in general

secondly, are there any good resources for beginner builds that go step by step?

[dense root]

not hard to gear solo

in fact there is no trade yet

[native sail]

Everybody has been gearing solo for uh... 5 years or so

[dense root]

so all accounts are solo

there will be trade in a month but at the same time there is a system being added specifically for solo players to do solo item farming

[native sail]

And most things are pretty straightforward once you have an okay grasp on the mechanics of the game. Definitely capable to learn.

[soft beacon]

`yeah i saw that it looks interesting

[dense root]

assessing items takes a little skill i guess?

it’s not too hard i feel

all items are just stat sticks since every affix applies globally on your character

[soft beacon]

what do you mean by that sorry

[dense root]

so once you understand what affixes are desirable it’s easy enough to figure out what items are good

i don’t know about step by step beginner guides though sorry

[dense root]

uh so like in some arpgs if an item says 50% increased armor it applies just to that item

[faint cape]

There is no concept of "local" affixes on gear in this game, like there often is

[dense root]

in le everything applies to your character rather than to the item it is on

[soft beacon]

ah gotcha yeah that can be tricky

[native sail]

Maxroll technically does but they're a little questionable imo. I think Aaron at least has tutorial vids on mechanics, like gearing, crafting, filtering?

[soft beacon]

ah yeah maxroll will be fine i just wanna see whatthere is in terms of archetypes before i pick a class

are there any especially good builds you'd recommend that are quite solid from early on?

[dense root]

umbral blades

[native sail]

Basically anything Runemaster is very, very good right now. Umbral Blades Bladedancer is more than capable. Druid. Just in general.

[dense root]

it unlocks on rogue at level sixteen and is good for the entire campaign and also all endgame content

[soft beacon]

any decent pet builds?

[dense root]

i think people like squirrel beastmaster the most for that

but it requires a somewhat rare unique helmet

definitely farmable but not ideal for a first character

beyond that i’m not sure since i don’t like minion builds

[wicked plover]

if you like minions you can just jump on necromancer, slap every minion ability on there and yolo through until you figure stuff out, you wont have a hard time, and no rare uniques or anythign required

[native sail]

By pet do you mean minion in general or animal-critter-creature-things?

[wicked plover]

wdym skeletons are the cutest pet bois :3

[native sail]

There are no frog minions yet

[tawdry mulch]

I am a bit confused, and someone might have asked it before so it's ok to link there but:
Is "Echos from the void" just the name of 1.0 or the name of the cycle thing?

[dense root]

frog skin for summon scorpion when

[native sail]

Every major update gets a name as far back as I can remember

[tawdry mulch]

Oh ok

Yeah me too, but didn't expect it at 1.0 😛

[native sail]

Final update will be Last Epoch: The Final Epoch

[tawdry mulch]

no no no no Final, forever!

😛

[pastel pebble]

Last Epoch: The Lastening

[shut pumice]

1.0 will have trade or no

[dense root]

yes

[wicked plover]

yes

[shut pumice]

oh boy

[wicked plover]

optional trade*

[dense root]

technically all features are optional

[native sail]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/trade-item-factions/61722
Give this a thorough read

[tawdry mulch]

Think he means is, if you pick CoF or MG... so "optional" but I think it is advisable to select at least one 😛

[dense root]

yeah i know

[native sail]

Dyas are you being pedantic again?

[pastel pebble]

Days has never been pedantic. Only highly specific

[dense root]

idk who dyas is but i would never be pedantic

[devout kernel]

I'm thinking of buying one of the edition upgrades, what I can buy with 50 EP?

[native sail]

Because I am on a laptop and still dying from my walk

[dense root]

this is why i never walk anywhere and instead use one of those floaty chair things from wall e

[soft beacon]

Any minions

[native sail]

God please

[native sail]

Then Beastmaster and Necromancer are for you. Maybe Falconer when that releases at 1.0 (we don't know a ton about this guy, very minimal info available as of right now)

[soft beacon]

Cool, pet builds always served me well as a learning frame for new arpgs

Do they have permanent minions or are they timed duration or both

[native sail]

Both technically

[faint cape]

Both, also stationary ones (like totems)

[native sail]

BM is far more permanent

Necro has like a 50/50 split on permanenet vs temporary I'd say

[soft beacon]

Prob prefer necro theming tbh

Well I'll prob pick the game up tonight then and pop back with any Q's 🙂

[native sail]

I'm just gonna tell you now to avoid the Volatile Zombie builds that are topping the arena ladders right now, they're bugged beyond belief and will not function at 1.0

[soft beacon]

Ty for the heads up, is arena PvP?

[dense root]

no

[native sail]

No, it's basically wave survival

[soft beacon]

Ah ok

[faint cape]

No, no PvP in game yet. It's like GD's crucible I think

[native sail]

PvP is a "in the future" thing

[soft beacon]

Gotcha

[native sail]

Oh yeah, that's a good comparison, nice call

[pastel pebble]

Sanity survival

That or hardware, lol

Some guys play it for a longass time

[alpine breach]

Hey gang. I'm looking at picking this up. Can anyone point me to a good YouTube video that best showcases the current gameplay? Or suggest a game it's most similar to? I've played most of the notable arpgs since 2000

[native sail]

Hineroptera crashing at 998

[tawdry mulch]

Good question, think the skill mechanic in this game is something I have not met yet... same for the very good crafting system... but others might point better examples 😛

[native sail]

I don't know anything necessarily for like, a "gameplay overlook" kinda thing, but Dr3adful and ActionRPG both have videos that at least showcase builds in actual gameplay.
As for comparisons to other games... Complexity wise put it between Diablo and PoE, give it a passive skill system similar to Grim Dawn, and... I honestly can't think of a comparison for the actual skill system, that's been a completely unique thing to me.

[tawdry mulch]

Ah I am not the only one then 😄

[native sail]

Core endgame system is kind of a mix between Delve in PoE and greater rifts in D3 if that makes sense, with a few dungeons for a few special mechanics (such as crafting legendary items, which are effectively uniques with extra affixes). There are plans for pinnacle bosses in some form as well.

[faint cape]

Yeah no other game I can think of does skills like LE, where each skill has a skill tree. It's pretty hype

[alpine breach]

These are all good notes. If I'm going to enjoy it I wasn't enough depth to keep me engaged without needing 4 spreadsheets.

[native sail]

You definitely won't need spreadsheets unless you're working with the folks figuring out like exact boss drop rates.
There's plenty of depth to try lots of different things on every class, and it basically only expands as they add more items or rework things.

[tawdry mulch]

Indeed, and ingame loot filter that you can adjust on the fly... ingame guide, nothing needed like going out of the game to enjoy it

[native sail]

Oh yeah. In-game, in depth, (almost) fully customizable loot filter. Huge plus.

I say almost cuz there's no custom drop sounds or like lasers, but pretty much everything else

[tawdry mulch]

yeah true, not to forget it has one of the most in depth tooltips as well

[native sail]

Ctrl + Alt

[wicked plover]

ctrl alt is actually a mad functionality

[tawdry mulch]

I only saw one that can match it so far, but that is a whole different system and type of game that I won't mention here. But i find tooltips that are short very useful, and these like Deias says can be expanded if needed.

[alpine breach]

Ya I'm not concerned about the custom sounds etc. I'm not likely to get too into a D3 style endgame loop where that matters more.

[zealous orchid]

how much real $ is 100 Epoch Points?

[wicked plover]

10€ for eu at least

[zealous orchid]

thats it wth

[dense root]

i'll give you 3.50

[native sail]

$10, but the point of those packs is full armor sets + pets totaling more than 100 EP easily

[zealous orchid]

so this ultimate pack upgrade cost $30 and they are only giving us $10 worth of points come on. POE did wayyyy better in that regard

[tawdry mulch]

You get other cosmetics as well?

[dense root]

i mean you do get other stuff

[native sail]

It's $30 for multiple pets, multiple portals, and full armor sets.

[zealous orchid]

yeah but POE gave us the full value of these cosmetics in points as well

i expected atleast half the value

[native sail]

Sure PoE matches the price in points but PoE also can afford to do that easily

If you want to voice your opinion to EHG directly head to #1123697853882187847 and make a post, they read them there

[tawdry mulch]

dang, i had to re-migrate my account somehow, mindlessly did so, hope that aint a bad thing...

[dense root]

banned for life

[tawdry mulch]

Nooohhooo 😢

😄

[burnt mango]

Hello guys, is there level cap/story part in which i unlock cosmetics and store? I should have some bcs i bought game year ago, but when i launch game cosmetic menu is locked and also cant see any epoch points o.o

[native sail]

Uh... are you playing offline?

[surreal verge]

Cosmetics cant be used offline

[native sail]

That's the only thing I can think of

[burnt mango]

I do

xD

Thats really weird..

Why do i need to be online for this?

[zealous orchid]

welp just upgraded to Ultimate

[native sail]

It's a whole thing. There's an explanation in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs somewhere I think

[wheat flame]

gotta be online to access online content

not connected to a server at that point

if youre playing offline

[burnt mango]

Okay gonna try launch my character online

I hope i could if i made him as offline O.O

[surreal verge]

Offline mode is planned to be truly offline and this need no connection, which means no communicating with the server which means no way of verifiying what cosmetics you own

[surreal verge]

Offline and online chars are seperate

[wheat flame]

offline mode is for when youre in the mountains at a cabin in the outhouse with no internet and a steamdeck

[native sail]

Offline mode is for when the snow decides I'm not allowed to have internet

[burnt mango]

Oh...thats is sad :X

[wicked plover]

if it wasnt for global chat i woul play offline exclusively to be honest, why have ping on purpose

[burnt mango]

So i need to delete my character bcs he is offline or else i wont be able to experience all content?

[wicked plover]

no?

[surreal verge]

No, you’re just missing cosmetics,leaderboards, trading and chat

[wheat flame]

keep it in case you wanna play offline. just make an online one too

[burnt mango]

What about future cycles?

[native sail]

All playable content will be patched into offline as well

[faint cape]

You won't be able to trade or party ofc

[surreal verge]

So far the plan is all playable offline

[burnt mango]

Oh...thanks

[obtuse hare]

Is there going to be a wipe on relaese?

[faint cape]

you also don't need to delete it, you can just leave it there

[burnt mango]

Well still need to make new one for cosmetics... xD i even thought about buying ultimate edition

[surreal verge]

Sent to standard

[native sail]

No, we are currently playing the equivalent of standard

[obtuse hare]

Ok, yeah im down for season's prefere it that way, any info On league/season Scheduals ?

[native sail]

They don't have a set in stone period but they're thinking about 3-4 months long, they've stated they will try not to conflict with others though

[obtuse hare]

ohh yeah for sure, awesome super keen! 🙂 I think path of exile really set it in for how ARPG's Should maintain a playerbase 😄

Thank's For answering my question's ! peace!

[pastel pebble]

Maybe you are. I'm playing exceptionally

[burnt mango]

Oh you were right, online char, got my epoch points and cosmetics... Dahm juvenile skullen looks ugly... xD

[fluid horizon]

Can the movement be changed to right click instead of left click?
Because I tried changing the binding, it wouldn't let me

[surreal verge]

No

[native sail]

You have discovered the only binding that cannot be changed

[fluid horizon]

damn

alright thanks

[obtuse hare]

just flip Right and left Click in mouse software hahaha

[fluid horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/not-funny-haha-not-funny-hahaha-evil-laugh-laughing-gif-17347025675359632212

[tawdry mulch]

Any of you know by heart if it is already a known bug that throwing skills if you are next to a mob ... they don't work? - just wanna know if i should report or not

[wicked plover]

when in doubt always report, lets them see how regular a bug occurs

even if they are already aware

[tawdry mulch]

(y) got a clip anyway

thx

[storm forge]

Long shot, but is there any known issue with "window resizing" the game? I was trying to play windowed for performance concerns and I mistakenly resized the window by dragging from the corners.
While the resolution updated, at some point the game froze for a bit and I even think my character somehow "teleported", because I aggroed monsters and have an explored area of the map I did not move into. See screenshot.

I've taken a look at #1123698102470189118 but didn't see anything obvious, don't know about the forum or internal database.

[tough bramble]

uh i switched to no loot filter so i could try pick this unique up but i cant at all

very confused rn

[wicked plover]

press Z

[tough bramble]

alt+z, i found the command just now

we're good now 🫡

[plucky trout]

Guys how do supporter packs work? If i buy the most expensive one do i get previous rewards?

[wheat flame]

theres no "previous" rewards. you get what it states is in that pack.

e.g. the $50 pack doesn't include all lower priced pack items

[plucky trout]

well that a bit wasteful

because only 20$ one seems valuable then

[wicked plover]

value of cosmetics is simply subjective ^^

[plucky trout]

it is, i get it

its just coming from POE this is a bit odd

[desert grove]

critical vulnerability says each stack increases chance to be crit by 2%, is that +2% chance or 2% incresed crit chance? didn't it used to be +10% per stack before rework?

[plucky trout]

increase means multiply. add means add

so your base * 1.02

[desert grove]

ohh in that case i said it wrong

it says it "adds 2% chance to be crit"

[plucky trout]

then its base + 2

[desert grove]

nice

much better lol

[wheat flame]

check these in game. with/without item

[pine dove]

Maybe I should have clarified here before I reported this as a bug. I hadn't played since the multiplayer patch came out, so I hadn't made an offline character up until today. Noticed some weird behavior especially with boss fights resetting if I portaled out after they died. Here was my report:
I can restart the orion boss fight after defeating him indefinately by porting back to town after he dies then running over to his RP event. I haven't played in a minute but I don't remember things like this happening before. Maybe because I made this character "offline", it's my first offline character.

[unique gate]

What is a good rule of thumb which Items are best to use Rune of Shatterin on?

[plucky trout]

also, i heard that the game launches soon

[native sail]

Crit Vuln is flat yeah

[plucky trout]

wwhats the date?

[unique gate]

21st of Feb

[native sail]

Feb 21st

[wicked plover]

mainly class specific shards like +skills

[plucky trout]

hmm, i have a few chars ~lv 75

but didnt play for half a year

anythin new added?

[wicked plover]

you can view your materials in your inventory and get an idea which shards are rarer than others

[desert grove]

have you played since multiplayer (0.9) was released? i dont think theres been anything major added/changed since then but i could be wronfg

[native sail]

Runemaster is major, I'd say

[desert grove]

that was after .9?

oh yea it was

[native sail]

0.9.2 was RM

[plucky trout]

what is runemaster?

clasS?

[desert grove]

im leveling my 2nd marksman right now. i had the itch to play bow build on poe but theyre just too expensive to have a good build. having a blast on le now

[native sail]

The final Mage mastery

[plucky trout]

will feb launch with falconer/warlock?

[native sail]

Yup

[ancient field]

Hey people. I guess we'll get a wipe @ launch, do we?

[wicked plover]

no

[ancient field]

Oh. Okay

[wicked plover]

your current characters will be just legacy characters

[ancient field]

Well... thats "kind of a wipe" then :D

[wicked plover]

its not, currently you get the same features in 1.0 as you would with a new char in cycle

excluding leaderboard participation

[ancient field]

No way of playing them in the leaderbords tho. For me it's a wipe

Thanks for the info tho

[mint thunder]

Will the pre order stuff be pre order exclusive?

[wicked plover]

maybe we understand the word differently ^^ wipe means deletion for me, and thats a hard no

[faint cape]

The "golden guppy" is (don't need to buy an upgrade for it, just need to own the game before 1.0). The other stuff is not.

[soft beacon]

last stupid question, but a pertinent one - if i buy the standard edition preorder i can play right away right?

on the prelaunch version of the game

[wicked plover]

yes, you can start playing right now

(after downloading 🤡 )

[soft beacon]

ty lol

how big is the game actually my dl speed leaves a lot to be desired might be an overnight job

[wicked plover]

my steam folder says 17,5gb

no clue if there is any personal data included or not, roughly around that range

[soft beacon]

yeah seems to be 17gb thats fine

cheers guys

[wicked plover]

have fun

[low rune]

Hi,
I finished the questline and did some bashing around i'm level 75 what can I do to level to 100 faster ?

[wicked plover]

the bonus exp gain is capped at 10 lvls above yours
so in your case i would kill as much stuff as you can in a lvl 85 area if you can manage that

or just simply push through monos to get to empowered monoliths

[low rune]

Where I can find a level 85 area ?

[wicked plover]

reign of dragons is lvl 85 i believe

if you clear all the lvl 90 monoliths you unlock empowered monos which are baseline lvl 100
so you can try to clear that stuff, you will surely gain some lvls through that alone

[low rune]

oh you talk about monolith ok

[wicked plover]

ye

[low rune]

thanks for your answer

do you play runemaster by any chance ?

[long venture]

is there anyway to target farm certain exiled mage gear?

[wicked plover]

i have tried it ^^

[wicked plover]

kill alot of them

[low rune]

okay cuz leveling build from maxroll is shit despite dealing damage the gameplay is not fun at all, and i'm looking for an alternative

a viable one

[wicked plover]

runemaster is more complicated then other classes, do you like the mage type playstyle

[low rune]

hmm i like mage usually in ARPG but in last epoch i feel like (for rm spec) the builds offered for leveling are boring to play.. Like you basically run 3 time runic tile then use your runic invocation to spawn a turret

i mean

repetitive and easy to mess up, which is frustrating to play and kill the rythm

i've tried druid also but it just doesnt tank and doesnt deal damage (at lvl 30 atm)

maybe I have not choosen the right class for me lol

[wicked plover]

if you dont hate the idea, i would really recommend to just yeet guides as a beginner, login and play, read what your skils do, try all of them out and find smth that you enjoy
campaign is very easy and you wont struggle much, so you can dip your toes in every direction, if you find smth that you really like you can think about how to make that stronger and what other options it opens up for you

if you press G you can open up the game guide, most of the game is described there in detail, also if you hold ctrl+alt and hover over an item it will describe everything what you can see in detail

[low rune]

ok I feel what you pointing

might struggle tho with a self made build 😄

i'm gonna give it a try

[wicked plover]

dont worry about going the wrong way, there is only a single permanent choice you have to make, which is your specialized class, other than that you can easily respec

[wicked plover]

dont worry about it, the game is very straight forward

[low rune]

thanks you very much for your time 🙂

[wicked plover]

np have fun

[kindred finch]

Falconer and Warlock both should drop with 1.0 right?

[wicked plover]

yes

not should, will

^^

[quaint mountain]

I’ve been looking for a ARPG to play with my brother… I found this one but I read the reviews saying that the servers are pretty poor in quality. Are the servers still in bad shape? Should I wait till the game leaves early access? What should I do?

[wicked plover]

they are continuesly working on game stability and performance, right now some people can experience issues, i never had a problem playing with a friend outside of my own internet connection
if you really wanna make sure, launch is in 1 month with a big patch coming

worst case you buy it and try it out, steam has a 2h refund window

you can ask that question 10 people and you get 10 answers so there is nothing certain with these kind of problems

[kindred finch]

Much better than when they first came out with the multiplayer. If you're itching for an aRPG right now, the game is fantastic. If you can wait until the full release drops Feb 21st, you'll get to join in on the MASSIVE hype that will be in the air.

[wicked plover]

yea the game itself is 10/10

[quaint mountain]

Awesome! Thanks for the quick response! I’ll try it out.

[woven summit]

I’m thinking of buying this game. How much content does it provide?

[wicked plover]

do you have experience with any other arpgs like this, makes comparison easier

[woven summit]

No I was thinking of getting into arpgs. Was deciding if I should buy diablo but then found this and got hooked lol

[wicked plover]

yes please, whatever you do
If you want to get into this genre i highly advise you to try it out instead of d4

(not biased at all)

[woven summit]

Yh I was put off by the fact that diablo has a battlepass. Doesn’t seem roght

*right

[wicked plover]

in terms of how much content is there, this is highly dependable on what kind of player you are

you will definitely get your moneys worth in playtime, thats for sure

also there is so much content out there to show you how the game plays, what you can expect
if you did like what you saw just dive straight into it

[woven summit]

Fair enough. I’m thinking of buying the deluxe edition. How much is 50 epoch points exactly? Like is that a lot or is it easily obtainable in the game?

[woven summit]

Okay thanks

[wicked plover]

thats the currency they use for their mtx shop
currently there is no way to farm these ingame, thats just smth you buy to get cosmetics
depending on your llocation, for me 50points translate to 5€ you can spend in the cosmetic shop

just to be clear : outside of the base game purchase, any money you can spend in the game is 100% purely cosmetic and this will never change

[woven summit]

Oh so it’s just cosmetic? That’s really nice to hear actually

[woven summit]

I’m incredibly happy to hear that actually

I’m fed up with that p2w bs

[wicked plover]

yeap, no micro transaction crap like other games, you can spend your 35€ and you are good to go

[woven summit]

That’s great! I’m buying it tomorrow lol

[wicked plover]

awesome 🙂 hope you have fun

and if you need help with anything you can always ask here or in ingame chat, you will always get an answer

[woven summit]

Okay. Thanks for your help!

[peak orbit]

Is season 1 coming with launch?

[icy drift]

yes

[peak orbit]

do we have any details for it

[candid elm]

Yes, they're going to be referring to their seasons as "Cycles". The first Cycle is the two trade factions and the two unreleased masteries.

[icy drift]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/trade-item-factions/61722

details on the two new classes will come as we get closer to launch

[peak orbit]

oh so the factions are not permanent?

[wicked plover]

they are

[candid elm]

They're permanent

[icy drift]

they are

for the first few cycles (seasons) they're adding permanent content

since that's what the game needs most right now

[peak orbit]

right makes sense

[unreal hawk]

evergreen features are 🐐

[merry glacier]

what are the epoch points?

[wicked plover]

currency for the mtx store

[merry glacier]

ty

[merry glacier]

Has the Monolith system improved at all? or seen major changes? I just remember end game not being that enjoyable.

[wicked plover]

there have been some additions, like exiled mages that drop specific gear (mini boss encounter in monos), extra loot chests you can find in monos

[arctic dragon]

Sorry for asking but does anyone else still have Lost connection issues? I can't finish my story because of this.

[wicked plover]

have you tried connecting to a different server on login? even with higher ping it might fix some connectivity/performance issues

and maybe make sure its not on your side

[arctic dragon]

It's not on my side. Nothing else has this issue. I reinstalled and did check on US and other EU servers

Seen many people with the same posts on the forum and they were all unanswered so wanted to check here maybe there might have been a solution but guess not...

[wicked plover]

maybe try to open a support ticket, they might be able to assist better with technical issues

!support

[ripe brook]

Anything we can help with? We've support articles and a contact form at https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[arctic dragon]

Yeah, I submitted a bug ticket so waiting for an answer. Was worth a try asking to fellow players in the meantime ^_^

[wicked plover]

hope it gets resolved soon ^^

[split wren]

im thinking about getting the deluxe pack but was wondering, are there any examples of what i can get with epoch points and how much of them i will need for different things?

[wicked plover]

current shop

[split wren]

are there items in the store now? there wasnt last time i played

thanks

[wicked plover]

there are now

no clue if these items are there to stay or when/if/how we get additional options

but this will give you somewhat of an idea what to expect

[random isle]

Was the time of launch known yet or just the date? Also on and offline patch simultaneously?

[candid elm]

Just the date so far, I believe. Maybe when Feb 21st gets closer there will be a time announcement

[tropic hollow]

Hi guys, im looking on both, maxroll and acyveins build and none of the lich one's use volatile zombie nor sacrifies, while all the top lich on leaderboard does.. any idea why?

[sinful laurel]

most likely because its a build that only exists because of one or more bugs that people arent making long term guides around

[pastel pebble]

^

[oblique dome]

Someone said the other day noon est but I’m not sure if that’s been confirmed or not

[tropic hollow]

Oh so the lich build has been builded over some bugs?

[pastel pebble]

Fully exploits a bug

[icy drift]

It does work without the bug, it's just a whole lot weaker

Like

A lot weaker

[queen lava]

Does anyone know if the main story will have any major changes from now until launch? Been holding off on playing because I didn't want to miss anything lol

[icy drift]

Not sure if they've mentioned any major reworks like they did with act 1 earlier but they're always improving in it. They have confirmed that we won't be getting additional acts to the story at 1.0 though

I'd give it a go tbh

[tropic hollow]

oh so basically without that "bug" the lich class wouldn't be ahead of the runemaster and sorcerer in the solo leaderboard?

[queen lava]

Okay awesome, because I had noticed a lot had improved from when I originally tried the game so wasn't sure how far the changes would go. Def going to have a proper start tonight - thank you!

[tropic hollow]

Just trying to figure out at which points its abusing

[icy drift]

Ye

[bleak viper]

someone probably already asked this. but i want to clarify before launch. Does beta access count as a purchase or do i need to pre-order the game

[queen lava]

it counts per the official twitter

[tropic hollow]

Ok got it, so at this point if i wanna practice before the official launch im better just make a runemaster or a sorcerer if i won't be disapointed on day 1

[queen lava]

looks like we can also do upgrades with is cool too

[bleak viper]

nice

[icy drift]

Whenever volatile zombies explode they can cast sacrifice, the bug is that sacrifice will cast despite you have no or negative mana, causing you to be able to go into infinite negative mana, and then there is a boot affix that gives ward based on missing mana . So you get infinite ward and infinite sacrifice explosions

[tropic hollow]

lol wtf

sounds like a deleted build on official launch day lol

Actually i don't know how dev's react to this kind of thing in here but thats what i would assume

[sinful laurel]

yes, its on the list of important things to fix

[tropic hollow]

Got it

[icy drift]

They've said that if something is this absurd they'll most likely fix it mid cycle

Especially because it's a straight up bug

It's not an op interaction or anything

[tropic hollow]

Yeah that make sense and im happy to hear that out. 😄

I love games were dev care about and also play it themselve 😄

[icy drift]

Yup

[tropic hollow]

Does the Runemaster or Sorcerer top tier build on leaderboard for solo is also based on bugs or its safe to path that way? 🙂

[pastel pebble]

What are they?

I never looked at them

[tropic hollow]

i couldn't say exactly what build it is as i haven't looked at them yet, but if it's not bug based build this is where ill head to ^^

[sinful laurel]

all three probably safe to try out

the sorc will require more gear

and a harder playstyle

[tropic hollow]

Ok got it

thanks you very much guys for all the info it is much appreciate !! 😄

[sinful laurel]

also just so you know, this isnt a game where if you dont follow a guide you are fucked

just...play the game. try shit out.

[icy drift]

Yup ^

[tropic hollow]

Yeah and i really like that, im a big poe enjoyer/grinder and i instantly got that feeling when i started this game earlier today that they tend to push you towards doing your own build tech in this game and its really nice

[icy drift]

It's practically free to respec

[sinful laurel]

yup. 95% of the time, you will end up with something not a fail

[icy drift]

It's impossible to brick your character

[sinful laurel]

and yes, respec is super easy in all but mastery

[icy drift]

Yeah if you dislike your mastery choice you gotta start a new character but otherwise you can change anything at will basically

[dense root]

don’t lie to new players. you can brick your character and you do it by picking forge guard at the end of time

[sinful laurel]

forge guard best guard

[icy drift]

Lol

Didn't you see Mike beat campaign Lagon first try?

With his forgeguard

[sinful laurel]

it only took him what, like 13 minutes?

OP

nerf

[icy drift]

Details that don't matter

[tropic hollow]

I would be trying some more stuff but im so unlucky that the class and "type" of gameplay that i love and was building towards is one's of the bugged one that should be fixed for the official release so i just wanted to reroll and follow a guide to be able to test and learn the engame without experiencing any problem until then haha

[icy drift]

Well like I said you can play practically the same build without the bug

[sinful laurel]

wait was there a patch?

[icy drift]

It'll just obviously be weaker

[icy drift]

Yeah for the new cosmetics and stuff

[sinful laurel]

oh oh gotcha, didnt put that news post and an actual patch together lol

[candid elm]

If you want some builds to look at.
LE Tools builds https://www.lastepochtools.com/builds/
LE Tools written build guides https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/
Maxroll written build guides https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides
I'm not going to link the Icy Veins written guides again...

[tropic hollow]

Nono, i was refering to multishot build ^^

[icy drift]

Oh yeah that one you can't really avoid lul

[tropic hollow]

yeah

[sinful laurel]

well you can, just dont use flurry haha

[tropic hollow]

its playable but kinda annoying

haha

[icy drift]

Maybe try a mage with fireball soak or something

[tropic hollow]

😭

[icy drift]

Kinda similar playstyle but obvious thematic difference

[sinful laurel]

I will make my procced fireball meteor sorc work lol

[pastel pebble]

I will league start FG

[tropic hollow]

thanks alot, i had the maxroll and icyveins ones but i didn't knew that lastepoch had their own build "guide" page 😮

[tropic hollow]

thats alot for the info ill look into that 😄

[icy drift]

I've made if work, just make sure you have t7 for the mana affix, if makes it quite a bit smoother

[candid elm]

Oh the LE Tools one isn't from the LE Devs. It's made by a person named Dammit who's probably around here somewhere

[sinful laurel]

so has anyone ever seen this happen? I was putting stuff in a tab, game hitched for a second, and then all the unique items duplicated back into my inv

mourningfrost, ward trail and ladle

all straight duped

[icy drift]

Sort the tab

Like click sort items

[sinful laurel]

dude WTF is going on

i sorted twice

even logged out and back in

[icy drift]

Uh oh

[sinful laurel]

and then all of a sudden the whole tab changed

[icy drift]

Oh

Lol

Back to normal or no?

[sinful laurel]

yeah normal now

[icy drift]

Ye

[sinful laurel]

never seen that happen before

[icy drift]

All good in the hood

Happens

Phantom items

[sinful laurel]

wack man

[icy drift]

Happens if you take out or put in items while a tab is sorting

You can repro it very easily

But it's just visual

Thats why server authority is Pog

[sinful laurel]

cant believe ive never seen it tbh

[wet chasm]

How does. Snapshotting work for avalanche? If i cast warcry with the cold buffs the 8 sec avaa that follows me, does every boulder for 8 seconds get the dmg boost?

[nova sparrow]

I just beat Eye of storm boss at 10+ tries
but I'm wondering, can I neglect the water beam and ice circle that one shot me somehow?
my cold and lightning resistant are 70%+ even with Rebluke on, Health 1000

or those are one shot mechanic intentionally

[sinful laurel]

beam attack is pretty much a one shot for 99.9% of players, do not get hit by it. circle slam hits real damn hard, also...dont get hit by it. The rest are weak

also not technically a one shot, the beam. but a LOT of heavy damage hits really fast

[maiden pasture]

is there a bug with THE IMMORTAL EMPIRE quest? i have talked to the old man on top, he created the portal but nothing happens when i click on it. I also tried to releport to the Outcast Camp, but it does not work, is there any other way to get to the Outcast Camp?

[nova sparrow]

I see, I was wondering if I'm not building character correctly
tyty

[quick escarp]

hm. i just unbound right click, trying to get my abilities lined up for runic invocation, thinking i could rebind it to my second ability

but when i try to bind it, it says "right click is already bound and is unavailable" even though it isn't bound

and then when i try to re-bind right click to the fifth ability like it is by default, it also says "right click is already bound and is unavailable"

and so uh, i kinda can't use my 5th ability anymore? has anyone had this happen to them?

i'll report it either way but it'd be nice if someone knows of an easy fix

yeah, even rebooting LE didn't change anything, i just permanently can't use my 5th ability on any character... :/

[unreal hawk]

try resetting your keybind settings (make screenshot backups beforehand if you want an easy way to get them back)

[quick escarp]

oh im genuinely upset i didn't think of that

[unreal hawk]

also if the problem persists and you haven't built up muscle memory yet you can always consider learning to play with all your abilities bound to a keyboard key

could do something like A Q W E D for skills and S for pot

[quick escarp]

oh ive def built up muscle memory lol, the problem is i finally got my build to the point where i needed a very specific runic invocation, which means having to put my abilities in a specific order on my hotbar... a different order than my muscle memory

so i figured i could just move them around and then change the hotkeys to what i was used to (so they wouldn't be in QWER order anymore)

[unreal hawk]

and force move on space bar or a mouse button if you have a gaming mouse

[quick escarp]

and i def still wanted fireball on right click, but now fireball had to be the second ability, so i tried to swap right click over to ability 2 and viola, bug

[unreal hawk]

yeah I guess it's a big oof

[quick escarp]

the fact that i have to put fireball on W means static has to go on right-click and i have to redo my muscle memory completely 😦 kinda wish this node worked differently, maybe if we could pick the runes with a UI element instead of it just inheriting from the ability order on the bar

how do other people deal with this i wonder? surely lots of runemasters reach this point where they need a specific invocation every single time, and grab this node, and then run into the same problem

[unreal hawk]

idk about runemasters, but when I was playing diablo 3 I liked playing archon builds. And when turned into archon you couldn't change the order of your skills. So what I ended up doing is putting all my teleport/movement skills on all my characters on the same place the archon blink was by default

so maybe the answer is planning ahead

[eager aurora]

hey guys really struggling to play the game with all the connection lost issues. Is there anything i can do to fix this on my end or is it completely their issue.

[lament blade]

How to play while keep disconnecting after 5min, anyone know how to fix that?

[surreal verge]

Swap servers.

[eager aurora]

@lament blade you as well

maybe it is on their side and will be fixed in a few days

[lament blade]

I tried 3 sv but it not help

[lament blade]

Back to the game afer few month i dont remmember its happened before

[eager aurora]

yeah ive heard alot of server issues with this game and its the worst part i really hope im not one of the fucked ones

sorry to hear you have this as well

[sleek meteor]

Yeah I'm having a bunch of issues right now and it's very unfortunate

[fickle mantle]

friend told me there was gonna be a free twitch drop on release but didn't give me a date... can someone tell me the dates?

[desert tree]

#news message

[fickle mantle]

cheers!

[supple moat]

is there any spec/build that uses attunement?

[native sail]

Yeah, Primalist uses attunement a lot and there's a couple Judgement Paladin builds that use it for mana stacking

[supple moat]

ty

[sick shoal]

Hey how you dual wield in this game? I have 2 gladius one handed swords but cannot equip them both

[low coyote]

What class are you?

[sick shoal]

ranger

[knotty path]

why my Blazing Flux doesnt reduce cooldown of Flame Rush, is it bugged?

[sick shoal]

ohh theres passive to get that cool thanks!

[low coyote]

This passive in the blade dance tree

[sick shoal]

yep found it thank you

[peak orbit]

Which one would you guys choose

for the left one, I can level up flat dmg and crit chance further at higher levels

[desert tree]

Do you mind posting the node?

[desert tree]

The feather seems better

[peak orbit]

for now yes, but after upgrading left one might be even better

[desert tree]

Don't think so

Inc lightning dmg is less valuable than crit multi

[knotty path]

here they are

[desert tree]

That's weird

1 try re logging
2 try verifying your files

[knotty path]

how to verify it?

[peak orbit]

Ok, wanted to know this, thanks

[tired pond]

Yesterday - after some break with a game I did something really stupid

[steel merlin]

In steam game list, right click over the game

[tired pond]

deleted empty cathegory in tabs - but those tabs holded data from my primalist and mage

any chance to restore those tabs on offline mode ?

it seems like renamed tabs were empty but they holded data from my current tabs

the best thing about it is that removing empty cathegory in tabs removes them and gold spent on them is also lost

wtf

[knotty path]

thanks, I see it

Let me ask one more question, I'm currently playing hydrahedron, will it be scaled by casting speed?

[sick shoal]

Can somebody explain me how are shards used

In example i want to apply inc phys dmg on my white sword and i have absolutely 0 idea

how it works

oh ok nvm figured it out lol

[desert tree]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/runic_invocation27_repeating_fire_mortars

90% sure it does

[knotty path]

oh thanks, btw flame rush still happened, im trying to redownload the game 😦

[molten sinew]

So do we get Warlock and Falconer on release?

[native sail]

Yes

[molten sinew]

noice

[crude needle]

Hello, I have a question 🙋‍♂️ ! I tried Last Epoch during the early access but as I have chronic wrist pain I can’t play arpg with kb / m, so I tried LE with controller but I did not have a smooth experience. Gameplay was pretty good but inventory management was really lacking. Have there been improvement for the release ?

[hollow belfry]

Hi all! Please tell me is this just an online game or with a career? If it's a career, is there a co-op mode or something like that? How does it work online here?

[wicked plover]

yeap there are controller improvements coming with 1.0

[wicked plover]

what do you mean with career

[hollow belfry]

like titan quest

[wicked plover]

you mean offline mode?

[hollow belfry]

ye

[wicked plover]

yea there is a true offline mode on 1.0 release

right now you have to login once through steam online and then go offline

co-op is only available for online paly though

so no lan offlien support

[native sail]

Career... First time I've heard that in reference to this genre

[hollow belfry]

Got it, thank you very much)

[magic acorn]

Did the devs confirm they will fix the 10 second long loading screen when transitioning zones? Really the only thing thats offputting to me and my friend who play in a duo

[native sail]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message
They're trying

[magic acorn]

Fingers crossed then, don't take it with a negative tone, I am loving the game so far but it will be DoA if that isnt fixed on 1.0 release, offline mode I've had no hickups so far, everything is instant

[native sail]

Well yeah. It's offline, it just has to load the files and that's reliant on your system and nothing else

[molten sinew]

is there an option to increase the text size of items dropping or a like loot button in the works? (Press A to loot) i find it hard to click lol

[steel merlin]

well you can make it wider if you tell the game to drop items with full name i guess

[native sail]

No loot button afaik, you can emphasize in filter but might not be enough for your purposes

[molten sinew]

gotcha

well its fine i guess

[steel merlin]

youll get used

[molten sinew]

just when u go fast and want to pick something specific up i fail alot and just stand there and die instead lol

a loot button would be bliss tho is all im saying 😄

im not saying auto loot by that btw

[steel merlin]

yeah i got used to it in torchlight infinite this league

[molten sinew]

exactly

looting in torchlight is the smoothest of any arpg

@steel merlin did u enjoy the league?

[woven summit]

Has anyone else experienced this on linux

[pine sun]

yes, i have played on the steam deck (offline) and it deleted my char after it crashed and you cant see the map and some items.

just play on windows

[woven summit]

Not an option for me sadly

I guess I’ll try to run the game through proton

[woven summit]

That’s a shame. I saw it was natively supported

[native sail]

Proton is the usual method afaik

[finite shell]

Are the servers off?

[wicked plover]

no

[mint thunder]

Are there no cosmetics in offline mode?

[wicked plover]

correct

[finite shell]

i just crashed randomly then when trying to get back in all my characters crash my game before loading in. I verifyed intergity of game files close some background applications and even restarted my pc any other ideas no how to fix this?

[native sail]

Swap server

[finite shell]

i'll give it a shot.

[finite shell]

No idea why that worked but it did, thank you very much!

[native sail]

No prob. I don't know the reason why it works either but it has been working for people lately

[true depot]

Do the pets do anything? collect gold?

[molten sinew]

@true depot Nope

@true depot Gold is already AoE based while looting so not really a need of it

[inner socket]

In the monolith, as far as echoes go, does it matter which direction I go?

[desert tree]

No

[glass iris]

hi , i am new to this game , totally have no experience
what if i finish some map in main story line , can i still go back to that map to help my friend and play together ?

[flint moon]

If we buy the game pre-1.0, do we still get a soundtrack DLC for free on launch? The announcement only mentions the “Golden Guppy” Baby Chronowyrm cosmetic and doesn't mention the soundtrack. Am I misremembering this or did it used to say on the store page a long time ago that you get an exclusive pet as well as the soundtrack DLC when you buy the game pre-1.0?

[desert tree]

Yes you can

[desert tree]

There was a pet (some kind of skullen), I don't remember the soundtrack

I got the pet but not the soundtrack and I bought the game around 2 years ago

[glass iris]

oh okay thanks

[flint moon]

The soundtrack DLC has not been released yet and I could swear that I read somewhere that you get the DLC as soon as the game releases in 1.0 if you bought the game before that (any edition, back when there were no editions), maybe on that screenshot on the store page? Will do some digging if I find it mentioned somewhere

*alongside that pet thing

[glass iris]

the ultimate and deluxe is worth it ?

[rough kraken]

YES

imo

[desert tree]

I believe so, but that's just me.
I got 600+h in the game

[rough kraken]

they are better than the supporter packs and cheaper

[candid elm]

I think the pet I got from getting the game in beta is the one on the left here, I just got the base game.

[rough kraken]

How did one get the one all the way on the right?

[candid elm]

The pets don't do anything. Just a cosmetic that follows you around.

[candid elm]

There were different supporter packs years ago https://twitter.com/LastEpoch/status/1124414492178300928

[rough kraken]

Oh snap

I forgot about those

I passed because I got kickstarter

But I just bought ultimate pre order because its just too good

[glass iris]

but i can play the game without delux and ultimate package right ?

[rough kraken]

yes of course

[candid elm]

Yes, those just give you cosmetic items.

[glass iris]

okay nice i am interested in the non-trading system thats all

[candid elm]

The devs have been very clear that all MTX are only cosmetic. There's going to be no pay to win crap going on.

[glass iris]

now still beta ? how long does 1 cycle last ?

[radiant echo]

will the progress from EA be removed when the full game comes out or not?

[rough kraken]

Nope

[candid elm]

You can play right now if you want. The 1.0 version releases on Feb 21st. I don't know if they said the duration, but if it's anything like the other ARPGs, probably 3-ish months, give or take. PoE leagues are typically 13 weeks, for example. I imagine it will be something like that.

[radiant echo]

great 🙂 thank you

[candid elm]

No, they're just going to have the first season/league that they're called Cycles. You can create a new character for that, if you want, and it will have a separate ladder. No characters will be deleted. When the Cycle ends, if you made a Cycle character it will be moved into the regular/legacy game mode. Very similar to PoE leagues or D3 seasons.

[desert tree]

No precise information rn, but they have said we can expect something like 3-4 months

[gentle valve]

HI, I'm fairly new and just wanted to ask. Is going full physical a bad idea?

I was just planning to do a rive paladin with holy aura. Maybe lunge for movement shield bash for CC and rebuke for a quick nuke.

I don't really want to watch a guide or build guide since I want to make my own build and wanted to get some suggestions.

[flint moon]

Regarding my earlier question whether you receive the soundtrack DLC if you buy the game in Early Access, I find some conflicting evidence regardíng that. There seems to be some consensus in 2021 that you do get the soundtrack DLC just for buying the game in Early Access, like https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/m8891c/comment/grgl2a5/

Other sources like https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/any-recent-information-about-releasing-the-ost-somewhere/39724/2 and https://support.lastepoch.com/hc/en-us/articles/1260805146710-Downloading-The-Soundtrack are more vague or directly link receiving the soundtrack to purchasing a supporter pack.

I could swear that in Early Access, there used to be this little image with the Skullen pet as well as the (not yet existing) soundtrack DLC telling you that you receive these for free if you just buy Last Epoch in Early Access. Haven't found said image anymore though, even tried looking at SteamDB to see if they enable one to access like previous versions of the store page but didn't manage to find something.

[candid elm]

Thankfully, respeccing in this game is very painless. You can change everything except for your base class and chosen mastery. Skills you can change at any time at no cost. The newly selected skill will be a minimum skill level that increases as you level and you just level up the new skill. Passives cost the in game gold to respec, and you'll have a ton of gold. You can respec passives in towns from the NPC with a brain/head icon.

[wicked plover]

just to add to that, nothign wrong with your plans, try it out and see how far you can push it 🙂

[candid elm]

Yes there was, example https://twitter.com/LastEpoch/status/1124414492178300928 When I bought the game I got that little Skullen pet.

[candid elm]

Yeah definitely try out whatever build you want to play. The campaign is not that difficult, especially if you're experienced at ARPGS, and there's just a couple bosses that may give you trouble. Lagon and Majasa usually.

[flint moon]

Thank you, that's the one I meant! I did buy the Ardent Gladiator one that comes with the soundtrack. Crossing fingers then since I didn't see it mentioned anywhere (well, technically they only said you get access to the soundtrack, e.g. through account management, not that you get the actual DLC on Steam),

[candid elm]

Yeah that's also what I got

[gentle valve]

Thanks, the respecing isn't really bad as I noticed and hopefully going full physical won't be that bad 😄

[rough kraken]

Those of you wondering if the pre order packs are worth it, i think the Pre Order packs are better than the Kickstarter packs and imo it should be the other way around, for example I got this in a 75 dollar kickstarter pack

now you can get this in a 15 dollar pre order pack

[glass iris]

you think its worth it to play this game that reset every 3 -4 months ? and i mostly only play like 3 hours a day , can i reach all content ?

[candid elm]

It's way easier to respec in LE than in PoE. Don't have to get a special respec currency item or anything.

[candid elm]

You can also just play in the regular game mode. The Cycles where you make a new character is optional. Similar to PoE Leagues or D3 Seasons. Also your characters won't be deleted or anything. If you play Cycle the character is just moved to the regular game mode when the Cycle ends.

[steel merlin]

Isn't that just because they got better at making models

[rough kraken]

Could be, still stings

[wicked plover]

how long was kickstarter ago, 6 years? longer? alot of things change in that period

[glass iris]

i am attacted to the No-Trade game mode

[steel merlin]

Also the guppy is free, not from pack, I know it makes it worse for you but I have to point it out

[wicked plover]

you are not missing out on any content cause of cycles, and you keep your characters even after cycle

[rough kraken]

The Guilded Chronowryn was not free

[steel merlin]

Yes?

[glass iris]

thanks for the info @wicked plover , whats the different playing in cycle or regular server if both doesnt missing out any content ?

[steel merlin]

Just a willing reset

[gentle valve]

May I ask what do pets do?

[steel merlin]

Look cute

[native sail]

They look nice.

[candid elm]

The first couple Cycles it sounds like they are going to have the same content in both regular game and Cycle mode

[native sail]

I'll go get the Mike screenshot

[candid elm]

Just cosmetic, follows you around.

[gentle valve]

oooo

I thought it picks up loot

😄

[native sail]

Nah. EHG has promised they will not put power nor convenience behind a paywall

[steel merlin]

What's with this week and pet looting questions

[native sail]

Idk

[wicked plover]

cause its common in other games

[sinful laurel]

In one other game?

Torchlight

[desert tree]

D3 too

[steel merlin]

Poe in china I guess

[desert tree]

They pick up and salvage most of what's on the ground

[native sail]

We don't talk about China client

[sinful laurel]

D3 does? Huh

[desert tree]

Yeah since the last 2 seasons

[glass iris]

@native sail thanks alot

[sinful laurel]

I wish I had someone to sit in my chair and click all the mouse buttons and keyboard keys for me, so I could get that true arpg power fantasy

[steel merlin]

I do have a friend that keeps saying that it would be nice to have in arpgs the follow character option that some mmos have

[native sail]

[steel merlin]

Like dude, you are just making me not want to play with you

[desert tree]

It's called QoL

[sinful laurel]

Quit on life?

[icy drift]

lol wtf why

[steel merlin]

Points at the disaster that is disgaea 6

[icy drift]

ngl that would make aurabotting in poe literally botting

[glass iris]

so basically , the items that havent tweak will be OP if moved to regular server

[steel merlin]

So he can have a smoke while playing

[glass iris]

[icy drift]

what? xd

[gentle valve]

Thank you for the replies. BTW if I bought the game last year do I get a freee pet? 😄

[glass iris]

like same as POE ?

[icy drift]

no

if you have a unique, and they nerf it

the unique you have also gets nerfed

not just the ones that drop after the nerf

[glass iris]

OH

[steel merlin]

Gorgas you get the golden guppy, congrats

[glass iris]

so there is no legacy item ?

[icy drift]

there kinda is but not really no

[desert tree]

Some items have 3 suffixes ^^

[icy drift]

sometimes they'll change affixes and create bugged "legacy" normal items

[native sail]

The only legacy items that have existed so far are exalted/rare items where an affix got removed and replaced with something else as consequence

^

[icy drift]

i have a T7 armour ring

[steel merlin]

Legacy items will be untradable by devs words

[icy drift]

i'm kinda cool