❔┃ask-the-community

[low coyote]

Both have less poison and not reduced poison

Couple it with cleanse belt and you might make it workable

[surreal verge]

Nope.

Ruby set does not help it's middling damage at all.

Cleanse belt is mid since a good AoD build means you have 3-5 stacks of poison on you at once.

[cinder musk]

Hello!
Just started up Last epoch again and loving it. Im wondering if there is any way of boosting characters? Or do i have to run the campaign on every char?

[surreal verge]

You can by powerleveling.
But you'll still need to do side quests as they give 15 passive points and your idol slots.

[cinder musk]

Guessing then there might be a guide to get the right side quests and just go grab em?
Also how does powerleveling work?

[surreal verge]

There is, but it basically still takes you 2/3 of the campaign anyway.
Just get carried to a high level map by another player.

[mortal pollen]

just curious as ive just bought the game is there a class thats "easier" than others just to get to grips with the basics ?

[surreal verge]

The more sane way is to just clear the campaign up to the point where you get all of your points, and skip the rest and go hit end game

[surreal verge]

"Fuck around and find out" & "The best class is one that you like"

[cinder musk]

SO just get to end of time first and then get someone to map me up in levels?

[mortal pollen]

now thats what i like to here

say less time to fuck around and find out

[surreal verge]

You could yes.

[surreal verge]

In-game game guide does help if you wana read. Also the only thing you can't respec is your subclass choice, have fun!

[icy drift]

I would say go with whatever you think seems cool tbh, the only class I would say can get a little more confusing would be acolyte but even then you won't need a 10 page pdf to explain it and can figure it out with experimentation and reading the tooltips

Almost all the info you need is either in tooltips or the game guide

And respeccing is super easy and cheap

So fuck around and find out is the way to go

[mortal pollen]

oh hell yeah so this isnt gunna like poe then im guessing! asweome thanks for the advice!

[icy drift]

Nope I've never followed a single guide

0 issues

There are a couple of database type sites I would recommend though:

Lastepochtools - general database and build planner

Tunklab - has some calculators, a beastieary and some other stuff

Both super useful

[surreal verge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/
https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/

[mortal pollen]

oooooo those will be super helpful thanks heaps!

[surreal verge]

[icy drift]

You got it

[mortal pollen]

time to find out 😄

[surreal verge]

Any more specific questions can be asked here once you start and find out-

[icy drift]

Yeah and if something is worded really weirdly to you or you can't find more info about it and it's kinda obscure you can always ask the devs, they should be back on from tommorow onwards (they were on holiday)

But usually you can get answers here

[mortal pollen]

oh wow a dev team that communicates with there player base thats insane!

[icy drift]

Since the community has already asked most of those types of questions 😛

Yup they also do weekly streams on Fridays

Where you can talk with the devs and ask questions

(usually just mike but he's great!)

[mortal pollen]

woah thats actaully super cool! ill stay on the lookout for those streams

[icy drift]

It's usually 22:00 CET on Fridays

[sudden wedge]

#❔┃ask-the-community Trying to see if this is a bug or a setting I messed up. I used to be able to click a quest on the map (right side of map) and it would center the map on the location of the quest. This recently stopped working. Any suggestions?

[icy drift]

Bug

It's inconsistent at best

[haughty arrow]

for me it (only) works when clicking on the quests on the left

[sudden wedge]

ok

[foggy crag]

hello all 👋

right now i'm in EUW spanish servers, in the council chambers

and i can't talk to any npc

so can't progress for now 😦

do you know something i can do? I restarted and closed the game and nothing happened

[low coyote]

What is the measure of a "good" build? What corruption level should it be able to do?

[surreal verge]

200-300 with zero issues.

[cinder musk]

So i just killed the word thing in the campaign. Is that the last quest? Is it now time for me to start doing late game content or whats the next step?

[crisp sentinel]

hey guys. me and my brothers have been playing this weekend and enjoying it but once we made it to this game’s version of maps, we have started to have Sever desync issues while grouped up. Causing a lot of deaths. Is this a server issue specific to this weekend or is this a long-term problem?
We were having issues like models not moving for 6-10 seconds at a time then having huge bursts of damage. As well as having our friendly characters running in place using attacks while in discord confirming on their screen they are moving and attacking. Finally, we were having 5-6 second loading lag every time we would zone since starting.
Can we fix this on our end or is this a known issue?

[toxic echo]

can try changing hosts/party leader, and try other nearby servers. also resetting the game every few hours helps as well. party play is still a little wonky on the connection side

[icy drift]

I've never had it that bad but they're switching to a different multiplayer backend for 1.0 (don't know exactly what server/system they're changing) so that might help a bit

But yeah if you're all close together and none of you guys have like 200 ping or something I've never had it quite that bad but the multiplayer in general isn't in the best state right now

[cinder musk]

Is Bhuldar's Wrath always req lvl 76?

[sinful laurel]

Uniques don't change req level

[cinder musk]

Thanks! Do you know when i can fight that boss?

[sinful laurel]

When you complete the spirits of fire timeline

[graceful totem]

How can i change my ascendancy

[sinful laurel]

You can't

[surreal verge]

You missed the dialog box telling you that you can't change it did you?

[graceful totem]

Which dialog

I am MMORPG player i dont read diologs

[sinful laurel]

The one you had to click confirm on lol

When you chose your mastery

Might want to read some things

[pallid wave]

wassup guys i am getting a lot of arena keys lately and i am not the biggest fan of killing the waves, except if it is interesting drop wise ?

[surreal verge]

You do it for 3 things:
Braindead xp
the 3 uniques the bosses drop (And only from them)
leaderboard chasing

[sinful laurel]

I sell them lol

Easy money

[pallid wave]

okay thanks for the info, i am doing good money wise got a gold blessing working , the xp part makes sense and will check out the bosses

[latent herald]

is the server lagging guys? i got higher ping, rollbacks and noticeable lag... :/ (EU west)]

[toxic echo]

EU west is known for being a not great server for LE

[latent herald]

aight thanks

also, first time doing monos, i farmed so many "nodes" what do i do now? i filled the bar on top

[toxic echo]

the timeline quests are on the left side of the screen. do the three quests, beat the boss, move onto the next timeline

[latent herald]

it will reset my progress on the current path?

[toxic echo]

you also dont need to (and shouldnt on normal) fill the bar. just need enough to unlock the boss

no, only orobyss fights will reset progress on the web

and some vessels, but, not important here

do the quests, move on to the next timeline

[latent herald]

can I die on the quests? the 3 ones

[toxic echo]

you can. you only lose a little bit of the stability you farmed

and you have plenty extra

[latent herald]

i see, thanks a lot! so main goal is the 3 quests, not the node tree

[toxic echo]

correct

when you get to empowered timelines (lvl 100 stuff) then the web matters a bit.

but for what you are doing, web until quests, beat quests, next timeline, repeat

[latent herald]

empowered is after i beat all of these?

[surreal verge]

The top 3, the 3 lv 90 ones.

[latent herald]

i see, thanks a lot friends! 😄

oh and do I need to redo the whokle thing on other characters or is mono progress account wide?

[surreal verge]

Char locked.

[latent herald]

too bad

[arctic arch]

do enemies generally have the default endurance threshold of 20% of their max hp? (trying to see how impactful "enemies have 30% more endurance" is)

[strong rampart]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/kA26XgzA
How would this theory build work?

[neon compass]

Lich, Level 100 (Beta 0.9.2f)

Class:

Acolyte (40) / Lich (73)

General:

▸ Health: 1,065, Regen: 26/s
▸ Mana: 128, Regen: 9/s
▸ Ward Retention: 157%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 23 Int / 1 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 0% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 57% / 32%
▸ EHP: 640 / 640 / 640 / 640 / 640 / 949 / 783

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 213

Damage Types:

▸ Necrotic / Spell, DoT, Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Wandering Spirits (21)
• Hungering Souls (21)
• Death Seal (21)
• Reaper Form (20)
• Transplant (21)

Used unique items:

• Curse of Perseverance

[latent herald]

uhm, what do i need to chose? i'm level 62 and finishing my first ever mono

[desert tree]

66

[latent herald]

what does it mean please?

[toxic echo]

just means you are unlocking the lvl 66 timeline. the right side 66-75-85 have all the stat buffs that matter for leveling. the left side has all the item drop buffs.

most people dont touch the left side (62,70,80) until late in empowered when you start really farming for items

[dense root]

the right side is also just faster

[surreal verge]

Yup

[desert tree]

Sorry, timeline lvl 66

[latent herald]

interesting, thanks for the tip!

[swift comet]

Yo, will last epoch do season shit or will we have a nice and healthy standard?

[sinful laurel]

Both

[scenic dragon]

are there any raptor uniques? I wanna try make a raptor build

[hallow galleon]

Hey there. Been rolling around with an Acolyte Lich and kinda want to try a different class build for fun. What are others enjoying a lot?

Thinkin about Primalist Druid but not sure.

[mortal pollen]

is there a way to filter loot so it only shows stuff for my class ? cause i keep filling up on junk lmfao

[arctic arch]

shift F

[mortal pollen]

oh wow this is cool thanks!

[pallid wave]

guys i have all my resistances maxed except void which is at 70 and i am getting one shot by some void attack in monoliths (not empowered basic ones) how much health do we need to have ?

my build regens quite nicely but no can do against one shot

[safe harness]

You need more hp

Unless you’re playing a ward build, you should aim to have as much life as possible on all gear

[sonic saddle]

if you got one shot then it doesn't matter how much health you have currently, you need more

or other DR of some description

[pallid wave]

i am at 800 ish hp level 68

862

[sonic saddle]

yeah that's very low

i was expecting like 1200

and that would still be low

[pallid wave]

alright i'll push it to the limit and get more life

[sonic saddle]

that honestly sounds like you don't have any of the life on your passive tree

[pallid wave]

8/8 fearless

10/12 prayer aegis

but my passives are not optimized

[sonic saddle]

hmmm, so about 168 flat life

get %increased life on your helm and torso

hybrid health on gloves, boots, belt

[pallid wave]

yeah for now i have no life on gear

[sonic saddle]

yeah gear is where you get life

[pallid wave]

and some resistances are way too high

so i can drop some res and add life

i'll take points in abyssal endurance to max out void res and get more lire

life*

[safe harness]

You can aim for 65 res and be fine

[pallid wave]

is the fighter mage fun to play ? i found a sword for him and it seems great

[safe harness]

The way resistances work in this game is they reduce extra damage taken, rather than acting as general damage reduction

[pallid wave]

chronostatsis one handed sword

i figured my life was low but it hasn't been a problem until now

[safe harness]

I don’t think that sword sees much use other than sometimes on a summoner wanting more ward

[pallid wave]

the level requirement sucks on it

if it were low it would have been great

[empty bison]

Hi everyone,
happy belated new year.... who can help me????(give me list passive buffs "monolith" )For example

sorry about my english )

[pallid wave]

happy new year i am still new i don't know this blessing and don't understand your question

there is lastepochtools web site if you want lists

[safe harness]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/endgame/monolith/fall-of-the-outcasts/empowered/blessings

You have to click to the different monoliths then check blessings

You can also go to the blessings tab on the build planner and see all of them for each monolith

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/

[empty bison]

Tnks

[latent herald]

Hello beautiful people, any idea how I can drop this https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzBsCYA5SA? Im not at empowered yet - do i just farm the web until I find a node that looks like a catalyst or?

[icy drift]

Look at the bottom of the items description, if it doesn't specify a boss then it's a world drop, which this is. You just have to get lucky essentially

It also means that you can get it from runes of ascendance, so use them on catalysts

The reason it's telling you to go to the stolen lance is because each timeline has its own unique echo modifiers that will drop certain slots of uniques, and the stolen lance has the unique/set catalyst echo rewards

But I would advise against doing that before being in empowered

[latent herald]

i see thanks, i only got 7 runes of ascendence tho, im lvl 68 working towards my first mono completion, worth gambling on it? also what are the chances?

[icy drift]

You can use tunklab to figure out the exact odds but yes it's worth doing it, it's the item you currently want so use them to try and get it

It's a common drop so the odds will be pretty decent

It's around 17% chance per rune of ascendency

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/ascsim

[latent herald]

yeah i get 10% chance with 10 runes, wellp, gonna gamba 😄

3rd try thanks again! 😄

[icy drift]

Np

[latent herald]

what is the blue circle around blessings please? do they level up?

[desert tree]

It shows how good the roll is

[latent herald]

oh so just to taunt me with my bad rng xD

[desert tree]

The void res is pretty well rolled

The first one is not really useful anyway

[icy drift]

Getting perfectly rolled blessings is a grind and a half lol

But look at how nice they look when you get them

Don't mind the others they're perfectly rolled also

[latent herald]

hihi that's dedication 😄

uhm also i've been wondering, why do glyphes/runes/shards go to inventory first, we can't trade them anyway, only point is to sell for gold and inconvenience to have to click a button to add to account inventory?...

[icy drift]

Don't sell for gold

Just be inconvenienced that you have to click the button because it ain't going away

They're giving us a mile but don't want us to have the last inch when it comes to convenience for crafting mats

Just be happy we have an infinite inventory and vacuum pickup for them

[latent herald]

yeah i guess

[native sail]

Another reason is there are plans for a shard sink of some sort, odds are it will need an actual, tangible item form for it

[latent herald]

hmm could be dubious if we cant extract shards back from the account stash

[native sail]

We don't know details, all we know is they've mentioned it in some form.

[mortal pollen]

was just curious whats the go with the dots on loot ? noticed 1 to 2 dots sometimes and other times none dont know if im just being silly or not didnt see anything in the game guide about it either

[surreal verge]

Affixes.
Left dot means prefixes, right dot means suffixes

[mortal pollen]

ohhhhhhhhhhh tytytytty!

[haughty arrow]

do class requirements matter when crafting with LP? can i use a unique mage relic and put an exalted primalist relic in the right slot for crafting?

[surreal verge]

You can, but if there's a class specifix affix, then it denys the craft.

In the same way, if you're crafting on a LP with no class requirement but you pass over affix(es) that has a class requirement, it will update to have the class requirement

[desert tree]

If the base unique is class specific you can only combine it with class specific base + generic base.
If the base unique is generic you can combine with anything but if it grab a class specific affix it will be class locked.

[haughty arrow]

so for my box of hydrae i actually need a mage relic exalted for crafting, damn

aint got no lol

actually got a mediocre one, this will do, hehe

[surreal verge]

Or a non-class specific one.

[haughty arrow]

ah yes, true! thanks

lucky 🙂

i crafted a handful of uniques, so no statistically relevant number, but: i think i got the exalted affix every time. was i only lucky or is there a higher chance for these to be transferred?

[desert tree]

Luck
100% rng

[haughty arrow]

i have +5 skills to runic invocation. on every character level up it seems like 1 or 2 nodes are getting "unspecced". is this a known bug?

[desert tree]

No

Are you sure?

[south wigeon]

hi guys, waht build would u recommend for ssf almost that can easily go through normal MoF, and maybe into corruption potential? sth can /easily/ take on MoF bosses, like lagoon or this void boss from dying sun, something that 12year old could also follo lol /my daughter/ ?

[haughty arrow]

not every level up. i'll watch it closely next lvls

[desert tree]

Shaman/Druid Thorn Totem, Lightning Bug, Cold Dot Werebear, Holy Trail Paladin, Warpath VK, Hammer Throw (Bleed, Smite or Crit Hit),............ List goes on forever

[desert tree]

Maybe you move some gear pieces, that take out points

But don't put them back

[haughty arrow]

might be the issue, crafting on my helmet and putting it back

[desert tree]

Yep

[south wigeon]

so for a 12 year old what would your 2 picks, so that she could choose pls? so the tankies ,aybe with best sustain
?

[desert tree]

Vk Warpath

I would say, good sustain, easy to play, pretty mobile

[south wigeon]

and holy trail pally looks good too 😄

good combo of everything for noob us lol

[desert tree]

Holy Trail has 2 variations, Pally or VK

[south wigeon]

and I forgot to ask...shield throw manifest armour? i saw a yt vid once where it pulled off some crazy stunts

[desert tree]

It's very good but imo the playstyle is a bit wonky

The AoE around MA is quite small

You need to move your character and manage the MA at the same time.

[south wigeon]

overly complicated.

😉

cheers!

[south wigeon]

can sb kill 75 lagon for me pls?

its been three days already

[icy drift]

You still need help?

[south wigeon]

yes pls

[icy drift]

Aight give me a minute to log on

What's your in game name

[south wigeon]

ShieldThrowManifest

[icy drift]

Account not character

[south wigeon]

okk

steam name?

[icy drift]

Press h and look in the top left

what does it say there

[desert tree]

CYBORGWARS

[icy drift]

lol

[south wigeon]

JaCeK

old noob me

[pallid wave]

wassup guys just to make sure rune of removal leaves the slot available right ? so if i have an item with 4 affix slots and i use 4 removals on it i can personnalize the item ?

[icy drift]

yes but it uses up forging potential

so using 4 removals will usually leave you very low on forging potential

using 1, maybe 2 is the norm

[pallid wave]

ok great thanks

[low coyote]

Can lose up to 25 potential on a remove

[pallid wave]

it is worth it haha

[low coyote]

Not really

[pallid wave]

i have a lot of them and no great items

[low coyote]

Removal is good because it guarantees you get all the affixes

[pallid wave]

i mean worth the gamble of course

[low coyote]

So it's good to use to harvest items with rare affixes instead of shatter

[pallid wave]

oh yes blue items are a waste form shaterring indeed thanks

for*

[south wigeon]

Thank you for killing the guy! 😄

[icy drift]

np ^^

[desert tree]

Did you shatter it?

[icy drift]

ooooooh ya

he didnt even finish his starting voiceline

[desert tree]

😂

[surreal verge]

[desert tree]

Poor Lagon, getting bullied like this

[icy drift]

think it was sub 1 second lul

i mean it was normal lagon, kinda to be expected

[south wigeon]

it was

for me its a pain

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/0AKz00Do

[neon compass]

Void Knight, Level 70 (Beta 0.9.2f)

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (49) / Paladin (14)

General:

▸ Health: 1,319, Regen: 28/s
▸ Mana: 99, Regen: 9/s
▸ Attributes: 32 Str / 0 Dex / 0 Int / 7 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 125% / 104% / 100% / 87% / 73% / 49% / 66%
▸ EHP: 2,272 / 2,272 / 2,272 / 2,578 / 2,214 / 1,782 / 2,083

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 33%, Threshold: 315
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (18)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 31% (1,159)
▸ Block Chance: 9%, Mitigation 22% (210)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 84%

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Melee, Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Warpath (20)
• Shield Rush (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Anomaly (20)

Used unique items:

• Dreamthorn
• Darkstride

[south wigeon]

my build 😦

[icy drift]

no for sure my character is quite strong ^^

[south wigeon]

😭

[icy drift]

yo that's not that bad tbh

your gear is decent for where you are

except for the relic

that thing sucks

[south wigeon]

i need relic for poison res, so crafted that piece of .....

[icy drift]

poison res is very low priority

[south wigeon]

but Im so weak agains lagon

[icy drift]

don't bother

Lagon is just hard

if you don't dodge his attacks

[south wigeon]

on normal damn it?

[icy drift]

yea

[pallid wave]

yes he is the first boss that made me ask questions here

[south wigeon]

old me wanna cry 😉

[icy drift]

it's very normal to get stuck on normal lagon

think i've helped over 60 people at this point with him

[south wigeon]

my 12 year old daughter is slowly getting better then me

[pallid wave]

since him i am fixing my build by taking off unnecessary things and adding health

[south wigeon]

thats comforting !

[icy drift]

ngl jack you're kind of a gigachad for where you are in the game

your gear is way better than most peoples, except for that relic

throw that thing in the trash right now

[south wigeon]

so what piece of gear do I need there?

[icy drift]

like anything else lol

[pallid wave]

how did you share your build ? filled it manually ? or is there some magic tool ?

[icy drift]

similar to your other gear

strength, hp, stuff like that

damage

[south wigeon]

Big LoL

so basically this build will get me through Normal MoF

?

and into some corruption?

Where can I find this 2h axe so many ppl recommend for this build?

[south wigeon]

and I guess have to use sigils finally

[icy drift]

go to https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ and import your build

[pallid wave]

yes !! i love technology

[icy drift]

yeah exactly, the two handed axe you find from shade of orobyss

it's a boss that you can find at the edges of the timeline "webs" that you do echoes in

let me see if i can find one to show you what it looks like

[icy drift]

this is the item you're looking for

you can find it in the same site you use for the build planner :

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzAcEYHYE4g

like i said it drops from shade of orobyss but you need to have atleast 50 corruption for it to start dropping

[desert tree]

If you want more dmg you can dual wield

Before you get the axe with lp and added crit

[pallid wave]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/VBMd55wQ

[neon compass]

Paladin, Level 68 (Beta 0.9.2f)

Class:

Sentinel (26) / Void Knight (3) / Paladin (52)

General:

▸ Health: 914, Regen: 31/s
▸ Mana: 190, Regen: 11/s
▸ Ward Retention: 32%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 57 Str / 8 Dex / 8 Int / 19 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 114% / 121% / 130% / 91% / 104% / 86% / 92%
▸ EHP: 1,707 / 1,707 / 1,707 / 1,976 / 1,707 / 1,707 / 1,707

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 36%, Threshold: 243
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (50)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 34% (1,368)
▸ Block Chance: 27%, Mitigation 38% (820)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 40%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Lightning, Physical / Melee, Spell, Throwing, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

• Warpath (21)
• Rive (22)
• Holy Aura (21)
• Javelin (21)
• Judgement (21)

Used unique items:

• Urzil's Pride
• Swaddling of the Erased
• Thorn Slinger
• Transient Rest
• Tongue of the Aberrant Seer
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

[icy drift]

This is what a shade "echo" looks like, sorry for spamming you ^^

[desert tree]

What are you trying to do?

[south wigeon]

and I need 50 corruption, right?

[icy drift]

yeah atleast, but the higher you go the better

[south wigeon]

so this void knigt as I have him will let me do lets say 100 corruption and farm the axe?

[icy drift]

it shouldn't take long to get one, it's fairly common after 100 corruption or so i feel

yes

[pallid wave]

it started by being bleed build, by being super fast i proc frenzy and heal my self and do damage with judgment and i spin and or rive to do damage

and now i am trying fire by converting bleed to fire

[desert tree]

Yes, but you don't really want to wasted time climbing Corruption before empowered, and empowered start at 100

[south wigeon]

so I get empowered 100 and farm the axee?

and stick to my build.

[icy drift]

yup

[pallid wave]

and javelin just for fun and having range

[south wigeon]

perfecto

[desert tree]

So you are doing an ignite Warpath build?

[icy drift]

just make sure to read stuff along the way and try to understand how/why your build works so you can pick up and craft good gear for it

[south wigeon]

I will try dual wielding katana and axe then

and respec a little WP for this dw node

[desert tree]

Or you are doing a crit hit?

[icy drift]

blindly following a guide from the getgo usually blinds people to everything that's not in the guide

[pallid wave]

yes i agree that s why i am not following a guide haha

trying stuff to understand

[desert tree]

I am to say I am very confused by your build bob

[pallid wave]

fun factor is a big one hahaha

[desert tree]

Where are you at?

[pallid wave]

monolith of fate

this is an offline character btw

[icy drift]

doesn't really change anything

[desert tree]

Imo you will start struggling with dmg soon.

There is not real synergy with your skills

[pallid wave]

i will respec javelin for sure

and ;aybe holy aura

[desert tree]

Warpath does ignite and fire hit, Rive has some ignite stuff, Javelin is lightning, Holy Aura is specced for crit and phys dmg.

[pallid wave]

at first i was doing bleed with warpath

i changed to fire just recently i an nid switch

mid*

is bleed with physical damage a viable path ? because i kind of hit a wall damage wise that's why i am trying fire now

[desert tree]

Yes but you need to find some dmg multiplier for your bleed

[surreal verge]

It would help if you stick to one damage type-

[desert tree]

Some uniques, chance to bleed on implicit, high attack speed, Bleed duration etc...

Phys pen

[south wigeon]

can I make a better combo with these then my current sword - 2H DREAMTHORN?

[icy drift]

idk imo the dreamthorn is the way to go for warpath no?

it's a good 2 hander

until maw

plus you have plenty of hp for normal monos, but honestly take my opinion on defenses with a grain of salt, i play very squishy builds

[pastel pebble]

DW is the way to go post thorn pre-maw usually

Katana + that one void axe 1h

They get bonuses off of Warpath that are hard to pass up

[pallid wave]

we can make unique weapons with runes of ascendance right ? is there like a system ot it or full RNG ?

[icy drift]

you can get any world drop unique from them, the unique item will be the same base as the item you used the rune on, so if you use it on a ring it'll be a ring, but using it on a silver ring doesn't make it give you a unique silver ring, it'll be any unique ring

[surreal verge]

Semi-RNG, it takes the item type you give it.
Eg: give it a 1h sword and it'll give you a 1h sword.

[icy drift]

and by world drop unique i mean any unique that a random mob can drop

[surreal verge]

Cannot create boss-only uniques

[pallid wave]

void rayeh is no joke hahaha i need to fix my build before taking him out

[desert tree]

900 hp is kinda low

You don't need that much res

[icy drift]

yeah your resistances are a bit over the top lol

but tbh the black sun boss is very telegraphed imo, the only quick attack is the dive but even that is fairly avoidable in my experience, i think you'll beat him with some practice

[cinder musk]

cant we play multiplayer in the monoliths

[surreal verge]

You can.

[cinder musk]

Oh, my mate gets dced every time he trys to join me?

[icy drift]

it can be very janky at times right now, just make sure you're not zoning or moving while he's coming to you basically and it'll usually work

basically one person should just be perfectly still while the other tries to teleport to them from town

that's the highest success rate method I have

[white roost]

is the quest "Deep harbor rescue" glitched ? tells me to save civilians but there aren't any

[haughty arrow]

what build might profit from stun chance on weapon? are these prefixes (as t6, t7) worth keeping at all?

[cinder musk]

Like how far of am i from reaching spirits of fire?

[desert tree]

Once you finish Reign of Dragon you are good to go

[desert tree]

Forge Strike has a node that convert stun chance into Increased DoT Dmg

[cinder musk]

ah perfect 🙂

[desert tree]

FYI Black Sun and Ending the Storm blessings are stats, like Health, Resistances, etc...

[cinder musk]

cool, yea just want that weapon for druids to proc earthquakes atm D:

[scarlet wren]

I havent played LE yet so bear with me 😂 but am i wrong in thinking that out of PoE, D4 & LE that LE is the least "zoomy" in terms of going around the map killing stuff?

[native sail]

Yup.

PoE is by far the speediest game in the genre, bar none

[wide sentinel]

all these exalts are bad just because of bad base, the only good base is katana which doesnt have anything impressive on it, but dreamthorn is even worse so any rare katana+shadow cleaver with decent rolls is better

dont look for exalts look for magic and rare bases

exalted item doesnt mean its better, you need a good base and the right affix, if its something like armor shred or stun chance u dont care, thats basically a rare item not exalted one

[south wigeon]

Okk

What affixes should i highligt in loot filter now?

[wide sentinel]

base melee crit, atack speed, flat melee void damage

bases are katana and shadow cleaver, anything else not worth looking at, but u still can

[scarlet wren]

Alrighty. Thanks 😄

[fossil light]

Any recommendations for zooming build? I do not like minions playstyle so everything else would be nice

[wide sentinel]

almost any runemaster build, any shadow dagger bladedancer, judgment pally

any swarmblade build

there are plenty

[latent herald]

How does endgame itemisation work when following a LEtools build? Do i need to look for the item exact name & then hope for the right affixes? or are non uniques, just general guidelines for stat sticks?

[latent herald]

by endgame i prolly mean 70/80 notr fully cleared normal monolith

[old mason]

Are the servers down for anyone else right now?

[surreal verge]

Base item is important as their stats are normally unique-ish. And so are most of the affixes.
So find one with the correct base and 2 or more of the affixes you want, then attempt to craft the rest on

[icy drift]

Imo it depends on the base though, if it's just some generic base like a gold ring or whatever on the planner then you're fine to use any base for that item until you get something better

[pulsar prism]

Hello, is the sentinel viable for a damage reflect build for campaign? Just want to give it a shot for fun but from what I saw online, reflect build seems to be better for primalist?

[surreal verge]

yes, but you'll be pretty slow.

[pulsar prism]

Hm too bad. Reflect shards only work on shield and armor right?

[desert tree]

Reflect Build are not really viable imo

Boss fight will be absolutely horrendous

[pulsar prism]

I see. What would be the recommended class and skills if I wish for such madness ? 😄

[safe harness]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRmCYGYHYg

[pulsar prism]

tHANKS

Can such an item be looted during campaign ?

[safe harness]

possible late in the campaign

its required level 52

also, spriggan form has thorn shield which gives +50 damage reflect

I believe the immortal spriggan build makes use of reflect

[pulsar prism]

Ok, I guess I'll give up reflect on sentinel. Is there any fun build with shield/block then?

I thought reflect would be a good match for sentinel and shield but since damages are too low, not much point indeed.

[safe harness]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/dual-form-ward-generator-druid

[neon compass]

Dual-Form Ward Generator Druid Build Guide

Game Version

Beta 0.9.1

Class

Primalist / Druid

Used skills

• Warcry
• Maelstrom
• Werebear Form
• Spriggan Form
• Eterra's Blessing

Used unique items

• Hazelroot
• Advent of the Erased
• Thornshell
• Frostbite Shackles
• Throne of Ambition

Tags

Arena / Hardcore / SSF

Created by WaltzingBear · Aug 2, 2023, 3:11 PM

[safe harness]

well block is just another form of damage reduction. There's nothing really special you can do with it

[lament stirrup]

is Alluvion sword better on shaman or spellblade?

[pulsar prism]

So there's no build which would make use of those +% block shards?

[safe harness]

there are, but it's just more survivability at the expense of damage

[safe harness]

unfortunately this unique kinda sucks due to the long cooldown on the wave and the mix of damage types

[pulsar prism]

I see, thanks!

[lament stirrup]

rip, I can't even test it on my shaman as he's low level lol

[analog wadi]

what enemies blind you? i dont think ive ever been blinded before

or are there plans for PvP?

'Snowblind'

[surreal verge]

Monolith modifiers

[analog wadi]

never seen blind there either

[faint cape]

I don't think there's actually anything in game currently that can blind you

Closest we have is dread shade, but that can only blind your minions

[fossil light]

Thanks m8. God bless you in this new year!

[iron valley]

could i get the damage increase if i healed myself through leeching life or using the warpath healing skill

[desert tree]

Leech =/= Heal

But the node you showed from Warpath is a Heal and should work

[iron valley]

appreciate it, thanks

[urban wind]

What kind of bug/interaction is occurring that is causing me to enter/spawn with half HP regardless of my max?

[sinful laurel]

A known one

[urban wind]

Okay but what's causing it?

[desert tree]

You are loaded before your gear

So your max hp without gear is generated, then your gear is applied

So your max life goes up but your current life does not

[cedar locust]

Oh the team did say what was causing it - iirc, you load before gear stats causing a 'gap' though it's not as bad as it looks and is in the QA queue already!

[urban wind]

That's so strange, is it character ID based? It's consistent on this character but not on my others. I play HC so it kinda spooked me the first couple of times and just wanted to see if I could find out why.

Either way tyty I'll just be cautious for now.

[sinful laurel]

Yeah sorry, that's why I didn't give more. Nothing to be done about it but wait

[cedar locust]

Making use of the grace period after using a waypoint will help recover that HP before you get into a fight

[urban wind]

Yeah just popping a pot on entrance to anything, not a huge biggie

[cedar locust]

I do the same, nearly 1/3 my HP is gear generated atm 😅

[warm yew]

Ahh - My friends who don't run the game Naked and Afraid! Only the overconfidence of Softcore lets you do the really wacky no-gear builds...

Alternatively, there's the Exsanguinous/Symbol of Decay build that really tests how much leech you can get...

[haughty arrow]

thanks!

[surreal verge]

Exsan and last steps make up the Low Life Ward build, which is very meta.

[low coyote]

Don't forget experimental gloves

[warm yew]

Oh, I know - and every three seconds Symbol of Decay consumes all your ward. Low-life no ward shenanigans to ensue...

[surreal verge]

[mortal pollen]

ayo i dont know if im being dumb but how do me and my homies party up together

[candid elm]

H key for social tab. Add friend by account name. Then you can invite to party. Here's a very short how to video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KU5BIb_OrOY

[mortal pollen]

my lord and savior pradge be to ye ❤️

[cedar locust]

Oh that's a really useful video! Thanks for sharing it SweetGoat!

[pallid wave]

wassup guys, what the difference between chance to bleed on hit or on melee hit when we are a melee build can i stack both ?

[surreal verge]

If you're melee, both works and stacks. And ailment chances can go above 100%

[pallid wave]

what do you do with items after removal got them to no affix no FP ? lol

[desert tree]

You don't use 4 removals on an item in the first place

[pallid wave]

blue item no use except taking tha affix

i know using rune of ascendance on it

[surreal verge]

Throw them away.

[quasi hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/happybirthdaytotheground-happy-birthday-lonelyisland-thelonelyisland-gif-22301779

[pallid wave]

we care about the timeline around here 😂 we recycle

+X health is better than + X increased health right ?

[minor vigil]

usually increased and hybrid are better

[pallid wave]

i missclicked without taking out glyph of chaos

dayum we need an undo feature 😢

lost my increased health affix

[faint cape]

Outside of a few edge cases, health affix priority/power is hybrid > increased > flat

[icy drift]

Yup always be careful when crafting :p , an undo feature wouldn't be a good idea since you could undo bad outcomes that you risked intentionally

[elder dagger]

I just started with Last Epoch, coming from Path of Exile.
One build I enjoyed a lot in PoE was the classical Cyclone Slayer, no gimmicks spin through your enemies and leech their life style 🙂
Is a Warpath based Sentinel close to that, and how endgame viable would such a build be (thinking of going Void Knight)?

[cinder fossil]

the answer to both of those is "very"

[elder dagger]

Void Knight is a good choice of mastery for that playstyle?

[cinder fossil]

mhm

[minor vigil]

its a lot better than cyclone in poe is now lol

[dense root]

warpath void knight is definitely endgame viable but it’s not lowlife bladedancer so i’m obligated to trash talk it

[elder dagger]

Should I help Erza or Artem?

[minor vigil]

they give a different unique

but it's like 5 seconds into the game

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCsEYGZiA https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCMoZlI

avarice is rly nice

[faint cape]

Helping Erza gets you Avarice, which is actually useful

for some builds, at least

[dense root]

avarice is better unless you want to play exactly the one gimmicky disintegrate build and don’t want to farm the dungeon for the better version of gambler’s fallacy

(there’s a better version of avarice in the dungeon too but avarice is a better leveling item than gambler’s fallacy)

[ebon quiver]

Dumb question, but is there a quick way to revive after death on a controller? It seems to go back to this mouse based movement on this screen, and I can't see which is making difficult just to revive.

[sonic saddle]

looks at their 900/3241 health pool on load yeah i don't think one pot will do the job here

:L

but i just hit warcry and i'm basically full HP so is fine

[rich bluff]

Is online play not available right now? First time playing in a few months and it wont let me log into any of my online characters.

[low coyote]

You should just be able to press A on the controller, but the controller UI sometimes fails to take focus, like when you interact with doors in a dungeon. The controller system needs a lot of work still.

[fiery idol]

Is this the correct place to ask for help with my build or should i ask in acolyte section?

[icy drift]

You can ask here if you want

[fiery idol]

Okay! im struggling a bit now in empowered monoliths 100 corruption i was following a guide on maxroll for hungering souls. moslty struggle with mana on longer fights like lagon. https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/3ApRpZxB is there anything i should improve or maybe try some other skills?

[neon compass]

Lich, Level 90 (Beta 0.9.2f)

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Necromancer (4) / Lich (77)

General:

▸ Health: 1,731, Regen: 13/s
▸ Mana: 103, Regen: 18/s
▸ Ward Retention: 255%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 4 Str / 4 Dex / 59 Int / 4 Att / 29 Vit
▸ Resistances: 83% / 47% / 75% / 38% / 130% / 93% / 29%
▸ EHP: 2,372 / 1,857 / 2,372 / 1,878 / 2,372 / 2,372 / 1,624

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 346
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (46)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (802)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 60%

Damage Types:

▸ Necrotic, Fire, Physical / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Bone Curse (20)
• Hungering Souls (21)
• Reaper Form (22)
• Death Seal (22)
• Soul Feast (24)

Used unique items:

• Marina's Lost Soul
• Grimoire of Necrotic Elixirs

[icy drift]

Hmmm I myself am not an acolyte player usually but I'll take a peek to see if there's anything obvious

To be fair though a lot of builds get stuck on lagon in general

[fiery idol]

I see! i did get him in the end but i had to run around a lot waiting for mana

[icy drift]

You really wanna get your physical resistance capped is the first thing I see. It's the most important resistance out of the 7 usually

[fiery idol]

oh

[icy drift]

I know that's not a mana thing but still something to note

[fiery idol]

aight! i didn't know it was more important

thanks!

[icy drift]

I would take off a point from "great soul" and put it into "soul drain" for now at least

Just taking a point out of great soul should by itself help, while soul drain might not help much against bosses it'll help a lot in echoes (maps)

Basically the great soul node is why you're struggling so hard with mana, take one or two points out until you can sustain your mana better and then you can put them back

Your hungering souls costs 11 mana, 8 of which are from the great soul node

[fiery idol]

Hm! i'¨m not sure about that i don't cast hungering souls by myself at all

or does it still cost mana when death seal releases it?

[icy drift]

Ah no it doesnt, I thought you were manually spamming it aswell

[fiery idol]

Im starting to think maybe i shouldn't spam soul feast and bone curse so much

[icy drift]

Yeah lol

[surreal verge]

Ther we go, soul feast is the issue

[icy drift]

Soul feast is also expensive at 17 mana

[surreal verge]

That thing eats mana like asians eating rice

[fiery idol]

yeah

[icy drift]

And bone curse you don't need to spam, you can just cast it every few seconds on a boss since it's got a long duration

[fiery idol]

yeah i don't know why i was

[icy drift]

Mhm it doesn't stack or anything so it's just wasted mana

[fiery idol]

i cost a lot as well i saw

[icy drift]

Yeah 16

[fiery idol]

there was also one thing i noticed about the skelton vanguard

they died instantly on lagon

and i can only get them when i kill stuff so are they even worth on bosses xd

[icy drift]

Yeah lagon will laser minions to death quite a lot

You can try to micromanage them by pressing A

But yeah it's gonna be annoying lol

[fiery idol]

yeah

i guess i could swap soul feast on bosses for summon skeleton maybe

and just summon 3 minions

[surreal verge]

Yeah, if you're lich those things are paper thin.

They will NOT survive 5 seconds in a boss fight

[low coyote]

Given the game has physical damage spells, you can't blame me for thinking physical resist didn't protect from melee hits...

[surreal verge]

Well yes.
But most mobs do physical damage by default.

(there's enemy non-physical melee)

[fiery idol]

Oh wow i had such an easier time on lagon now when i wasn't wasting mana

[cedar locust]

Lagon is the first proper 'Build Tester' most players come across, took me a while to beat too 😅

[ebon quiver]

I genuinely appreciate your help. Menus are the hardest part of the game for me, ironically just because of how some stuff like you said doesn't react, and other stuff is just annoying like moving skills around which seems to require left clicking.

[warped vortex]

When playing with two people, we can't each receive an orobyss gaze ?

[low coyote]

I am fortunate enough to own a steam controller, which really makes this game so much more enjoyable. It's a real shame they discontinued this device as mine is starting to wear out.

[ebon quiver]

I have xbox, but even then I don't have the vision to move the curser in that way that is sometimes required. If it's D-pad it's no problem, but as soon as it becomes kind of like a mouse I struggle.

[orchid niche]

hey guys, can some1 suggest a feel good melee build?

i`m curently leveling a paladin but dont mind a respec

or to start over

[desert tree]

Warpath if you are into the spin to win 1 button builds

Rive (as a VK) is pretty good

Erasing Strike or Void Cleave

[devout frigate]

hi - it seems it is not possible to map controller button A - is there a known bug? it is neither working with native nor with steam input mode?

[cedar locust]

Not all buttons can be re-mapped at the moment. The ones that can be are highlighted in the keybinding menu!

It might be possible to remap the buttons through Steams Controller Configuration tool, though I haven't tested this myself

[devout frigate]

ok, thank you, i'll try

[cedar locust]

No worries - these links might help!

https://old.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/14j2whh/simple_movement_skill_fix/ - It's says movement fix but that link is a player guide for setting up Controller to work around the targeting issue!

This one for more generic advice for Steam Deck that might help a little - https://old.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1559pgc/is_anyone_successfully_playing_this_on_steam_deck/

[devout frigate]

great, thank you. i love LE, but controller support is not great

[cedar locust]

The team have been working hard on Controller support and want to have full support ready for 1.0!

[devout frigate]

it seems to be working better now. i think it might have been a problem that i thought i could use A for an attack, but it is the fixed interaction button

thank you!

[low coyote]

Would love to hear what is in the works for controller support. It's quite clunky right now.

[cedar locust]

Mike would probably be able to answer that best!

[low coyote]

I should make a compilation video of all the times I've tried to use a traversal skill for it to only go sideways 2 feet into a barrell.

Or the times dread shade ended up on a mage standing behind me instead of the abomination I wanted it on before me.

[cedar locust]

Set it to the Benny Hill music 🤣

Targeting is something the team was working on iirc, as we had a lot of feedback on it

[devout yacht]

Why won't i get the storm aspect buff when i play lightning swarmblade?

[desert tree]

1. The buff doesn't show so make sure to check your move speed to be sure
2. If it doesn't work it might be because you need to directly cast Tornado. Technically you are not casting it but proccing it.

[rain wedge]

The description of the sword apogee of frozen light states you gain a frozen vengeance stack whenever a minion dies, does that count baby scorpions? The babies are not your minions, but the blade doesn't specifically say they have to be yours

[desert tree]

99% sure it needs to be your minion

[icy drift]

i assume they have to be yours but the wording implies it doesn't have to be yours

so if it doesn't work they should update the wording

[desert tree]

That would mean one of your friend minion could get your the stacks

[icy drift]

yeah i mean maybe

the wording implies that it should work lol

i doubt it does

but the wording implies that it does

[limpid dome]

Hey guys I am new here. I have a question, what is the best way to understand the gear system in the game? Is re-rolling a bad idea for trying to get more resistance or better stats?

[latent herald]

Is it possible to check a skill's crit chance? I got base crit chance from gear, from my passives and then from the skill tree (frost claw) but no idea what's the final skill specific crit chance

[wild epoch]

Hi, is there a way to self-cast an ability (thorn shield) on myself without having to aim? Keybind or something?

[faint cape]

You can definitely use the crafting system as much as you want early game, it's great for people who like to figure things out as they go imo, most of the materials are super common

[faint cape]

No, gotta calculate it by hand. For most skills it's (5% + base/flat) * (1 + total increased)

[latent herald]

Agreed, my biggest mistake was to greed on shards/runes/glyphs thinking it was better to save for late game or on a better character, the game is so rewarding when you start understanding crafting

[faint cape]

Thorn shield has a node that does that. Generally no, though.

[limpid dome]

Ok thank you! I have a lvl 54 necro and still trying to figure it out 😂

[quartz blaze]

Use it early and often 🙂

[ebon quiver]

Can I move a skill to the bar from this screen, or am I in the wrong spot to do it?

[quartz blaze]

wrong screen, gotta select it by clicking on the toolbar itself

[ebon quiver]

Is there an easy way to get there via controller? It doesn't look like there's a textual indicator I can click on, and the bar graphic itself is too visual for me lol.

[quartz blaze]

have not used a controller for LE so hopefully someone else can answer your question

[ebon quiver]

No worries. Ty anyway. 🙂

[pastel pebble]

I use right thumbstick to move the mouse and select the move on the bar

From there it opens a small tab of your available skills and you select what you eant there

I have only played with controller for what its worth

[ebon quiver]

Is the bar on the top or bottom?Is it at the top or bottom of the screen? Also, can I do it from anywhere, or do I need to be in a speciffic menu to click on it? Sorry for the obvious seeming questions lol.

[pastel pebble]

No stress! I do it from the skill bar itself

[ebon quiver]

So I'd have to press s, then find the skill bar with the thumbstick?

[pastel pebble]

No, no. No menus needed

[ebon quiver]

oh okay I got you lol.

[pastel pebble]

Like lets say you just opened the game. No menus opened or anything

You use your mouse to your skill bar and from there select it

It took me a bit my first time too, lol

[ebon quiver]

Got it, ty!

[pastel pebble]

Happy to have helped!

[scarlet wren]

is steam family sharing available for this game as of right now?

[quartz blaze]

i'm able to download LE on another steam account family sharing with my main so I assume yes

[cinder sable]

Hello guys. So I've been looking up this game for some years now but I wasn't able to try it out bcs I had not a nearly decent PC to play this game. Now that I finally upgraded the machine, I noticed that the price went considerably higher. How's the game doing? Is it worth the money? Does it have any advantages over games like Grim Dawn or Path of Exile?

[desert tree]

AFAIK the price did not change, but steam regional pricing did. They are aware of this and we might see smth changing

[minor vigil]

faster than grim dawn slower than path of exile. more class identity than poe, more endgame variety than grim dawn

less endgame than poe

skills are more rotational than poe

[desert tree]

It's less complex than Poe while retaining a good lvl of depth. They try to fix stuffs they consider not very good from other arpg.

[cinder sable]

Well that's considering it's still early access?

[cinder sable]

Oh that's already a big plus

[minor vigil]

Yeah maybe. I mean poe has a shitton of endgame and it's very good

[desert tree]

Even at 1.0

Nothing is really going to change in term of how much end game we get

[minor vigil]

And ya 1.0 is soon though it's not gonna feature the end of the campaign or anything

[cinder sable]

Hmm I will wait for news about the price. Not that I don't want to pay adequate prices for the games, it's just that my country is banned on steam so I have to overpay if I want to top up steam sigh..

I hoped for the new year sale tho 😅

[desert tree]

No sale before 1.0

Can I ask where you are from?

First time I hear a country is banned from steam

[cinder sable]

Well it's mostly about purchases

[cinder sable]

||Russia||

[latent herald]

Uhm so I just reached empowered mono for the first time, now what? just grind for exp and better gear? and try to target farm?

[toxic echo]

better gear. better blessings. target farm uniques with LP. exalted items for legendary crafting. you are now playing "the game"

[latent herald]

mmmm okay, im still using a leveling build that for some reason is still pushing strong lol - maybe time to respec and try some endgame runemaster builds

[toxic echo]

most leveling builds are there because they are strong. most can be used in the late game itself

[low coyote]

I think I spoiled myself by making a really simple and powerful abomination build on my necromancer, one that trivialises most content. Now everything else seems weak by comparison.

[minor vigil]

time to play druid

[solar leaf]

I haven't played in a while. Is the game still slow to switch zones and other oddities with multiplayer?

[toxic anvil]

wait le has more endgame variety than grim dawn 🤣

jesus i had no idea grim dawn had that bad of an endgame

I hit empowered monos and im like okay nothing much to do lmao

(especially with trade coming out soon)

[hushed mortar]

How does multiplayer empowered farming work? We did a duo emperor of corpses and I dropped a unique but my friend got nothing. We both had enough stability

[sonic saddle]

IMO the problem with grim dawn is that basically everything you want to farm in grim dawn has a very specific farm for it

pretty much

also some of the best endgame loot content is boring as shit

crucible is nooooot fun

[toxic anvil]

true LMAOO

i mean same for LE for me in some regards, its nice that drops are more distributed and that trade will mostly solve that issue, but the endgame content imo is pretty lame

i lose all interest when it comes to monos

[sonic saddle]

well, most people i talk to don't mind monos

[toxic anvil]

hey I wish I was one of them 🤣

[surreal verge]

Did your friend unlock empowered yet?

[round mountain]

Any <@&1082357055484071997> around that I could ask about getting a “Streamer” tag? 🙂

[cinder musk]

Hey!
Any sentinel guides up that are good? Any tips?

[icy drift]

If it's your first character i would advice to just start playing tbh, the game is a whole lot more straight forward than something like poe and it's quite easy to make your own build that's functional and clears most content

but otherwise there are some guides on maxroll and most of them should be fairly up to date (nothing major has changed for a while)

[cinder musk]

Nah been playing some and love the game. Just trying out diffrent characters before launch 😄

[surreal verge]

LETools also has a handful of guides

[zealous tusk]

Is there a way to make mirror bolt chain longer? Also why is it my dmg is random like i make 10k and sometimes it will go to 50k

[icy drift]

should always bounce up to 11 times

might just be that you have runic energy or something giving it extra damage sometimes

or some other buff

[zealous tusk]

Mine only bounce one or two times then return to me 🤔

[icy drift]

it can bounce both to enemies and allies

after it bounces to you it's most likely too far away from enemies to bounce again

[safe harness]

Flame wall can give big damage to runic invocation

[surreal verge]

It might be once per target only?

[safe harness]

Is it hitting an enemy summoned unit?

[icy drift]

not sure but it doesn't say anything about that

[zealous tusk]

Sometimes it bounces like crazy but most of the time it just bounce like one or two so idk if I need something to do or what.

[icy drift]

nah it should always be 11 bounces, i'm guessing it's just going out of range or something

[zealous tusk]

Hmm maybe, icant follow it enough bec it is too fast

[safe harness]

I think enemy summons don’t get the zone level damage reduction so they take a lot more than normal enemies

[zealous tusk]

It is. Like the reign of dragon boss

Im using fundamental criterion, should I focus in str for dmg?

[safe harness]

If it’s boosting your damage, yes

[zealous tusk]

Wish I can upload my character in planner to show it here, i want some suggestions what to change or to upgrade. 🤦

Im playing in offline and everytime I check the folder of save files it doesnt show anything.

[patent cosmos]

hello

just started playing last epoch progressed until lvl 27 at offline and from now on cant enter game anymore... Stuck at character screen

nothing happens when i press enter game

[icy drift]

verify integrity of your files and then try again

[patent cosmos]

already did 😦

for testing i created second offline character

after video i restart game

now i cant enter that too

also reinstalled game..

[icy drift]

not sure then sadly

!support

[ripe brook]

Need a hand? Just head on down to https://support.lastepoch.com/ for support articles or to reach out to us directly.

[cedar locust]

Hi there! I'll ask who you might need to reach out to!

[cedar locust]

Oh you can! https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ lets you upload both Online and Offline characters to share. Just click the import button on the left and select Offline.

For your save files, if you have Cloud Saves on, double check where Steam puts those files. To find them locally, the App Data file they are in is hidden by default so you may have to choose 'show hidden folders'

[fiery idol]

when do you start doing dungeons/arena?

[wide sentinel]

When u can

And you dont do arena, unless u like it

[fiery idol]

oh okay

[candid elm]

Whenever you want and have the keys. There's multiple tiers:
Lightless Arbor: 20, 65, 88, 100
Soulfire Bastion: 45, 75, 92, 100
Temporal Sanctum: 55, 80, 95, 100

[fiery idol]

I'm 92 now have a couple of keys

[candid elm]

So feel free to try out the lower tiers so you can unlock the higher ones

Each dungeon has a special mechanic

[fiery idol]

Oh okay i need to do the lower tier before the higher tier?

[toxic echo]

yep

[candid elm]

Yeah, it also lets you know the area level for each tier on the screen where you put in the key

The dungeons are also one try / death per key

[fiery idol]

Aight!

[candid elm]

You'll see the special mechanic button, defaults to D key, when you enter. If you'd like spoilers or a guide to read, let us know

[surreal verge]

Dungeons are good for their special stuff/uniques.
Arena is for leaderboard addicts or the 3 uniques the bosses drop,.

[graceful totem]

Does 90 level map gives me xp (i am 75)

[cedar locust]

It caps at 10 levels either side iirc

[toxic echo]

give you xp as if its an lvl 85 map

[cedar locust]

Thank you Eagles!

[icy drift]

xp gets capped at 10 + levels above you

[graceful totem]

Is there any support build in this game like aura in PoE

[icy drift]

kinda but not really, there's no real support only build

there are builds with support elements, like auras and buffs

but they're not such strong buffs that it's worth having someone around just for them if that makes sense

you still gotta do some damage and stuff

[surreal verge]

There isn't enough support skills. No aura boting here

[icy drift]

Also there is no "aura effect" or buff scaling really at all in this game

So you'd probably end up with a zdps character with only defenses on their gear buffing their party a little but not really doing anything useful

[graceful totem]

Do you know when we are gonna able to trade items ?

[surreal verge]

!trade

[ripe brook]

Our latest plans on Trade, and Factions can be found here: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/trade-development-update-introducing-merchants-guild-and-circle-of-fortune-factions/51994.

[icy drift]

Tldr, with 1.0 in February

[fiery rapids]

which class uses the lightning elemnt best as a main lightning build?

[icy drift]

Mage

All three masteries can main skill lightning damaged but I would say sorcerer and runemaster more so than spellblade

[fiery rapids]

nice, ty

[desert tree]

Primalist has some nice lightning builds too, not as much but still

[icy drift]

True, personally I feel like stuff like lightning blast, glyph of dominion,lightning nova and lightning meteor are a lot more in your face lightning but stuff like storm totem and lightning bug are for sure lightning

[minor vigil]

paladin also has some lightning stuff

[warm lantern]

Will 1.0 be a fresh start, or can old and new characters play together?

[minor vigil]

legacy online characters will still be able to play in the permanent cycle

but there will be a new cycle (season) as well

[graceful totem]

Guys what does channelling means ?

[warm lantern]

and the new season starts on day 1 of 1.0?

[toxic echo]

Yes

[candid elm]

Abilities where you hold down the button and the skill keeps going, like Disintegrate.

[graceful totem]

Oh thanks

[scarlet wren]

Would you guys say its "worth" buying the game now or just wait for release? Might be a stupid question but 🤷🏻‍♂️ 😄

[icy drift]

I'm around 900 or so hours total, and considering its not gonna go on sale or have a price change at launch you might as well just get it now

[tranquil briar]

Hey guys !
I recently started playing a Rogue Marksman.
it feels like arrows miss monsters even when I have my mouse on them, and they are highlighted (and not dodging).

It happens so much that, even with the bonuses to damage with bow attacks from the marksman passive, I use Acid Flash and Umbral blades as my main adamge skills ....

[scarlet wren]

I guess you're right.. 😄

[tranquil briar]

Is there something wonky with the way bows and arrows are handled ?

[icy drift]

Are you using detonate arrow?

[tranquil briar]

the first marksman skill ? yeah

[icy drift]

Yeah known bug that started fairly recently

I think it affects detonate arrow and flurry, but is most noticeable on detonate arrow

[tranquil briar]

uh :/
It looked great, looking at its skill tree :/

[icy drift]

Yeah, hopefully it'll be fixed for 1.0

[tranquil briar]

it does not affect Cinder Arrow (or whatever the fire one is) ?

[icy drift]

It most likely will be

As far as I know cinder strike is fine

[tranquil briar]

Oh, but Cinder has no option for poison ... still leveling, poison seemed a great tool to deal damage

[icy drift]

But I haven't tested it so I honestly don't know for sure, the person who first reported it and people who have mentioned it since have only pointed it out on flurry and detonate arrow as far as I know

So hopefully cinder strike and the other skills work fine ^^

[tranquil briar]

another question : there are melee atacks, bow attacks, and throwing attacks.
The Marksman Mastery seem to be focused on Bow,
The BladeDancer is focused on melee ?
The (missing) Falconer is the Throwing focused ?
I liked Acid Flask and Umbral Blades, and wondered whether rerolling my rogue to get the BladeDance Mastery would be useful

[icy drift]

As far as I know puncture should also be functional and it has a poison option btw

[icy drift]

We don't know what falconer will be focused on yet, and unfortunately you cannot respec your mastery if that's what you meant

You'd have to make a new rogue and choose blade dancer, which a lot of people enjoy

[tranquil briar]

I was also asking : does one ofthe two available masteries boost throwing attacks ?

I mean, do throwing attacks benefit from the BladeDancer's +15 melee physical damage ?

if you have a bow in your hands, do the throwing attacks benefit from the marksman's 50% increased damage while "using a bow" ?

[icy drift]

Blade dancer does have a few nodes that work for throwing yes

The 15 melee damage from the mastery passive would not work for throwing attacks no

[icy drift]

Yes

[tranquil briar]

alright, I'll test Cinder and Puncture, and check ho I continue from there, bow or throwing attacks

thx ! 🙂

[icy drift]

Np ^^

[round mountain]

Thank you! I’m new to the discord and I wanna get as involved as possible, I love LE and wanna see it be the best it can be

[shy ore]

What are some of the better masteries / skills if I want to do a range / caster build?

[wide sentinel]

anything but sentinel, shaman or marksman. shaman is good only if u go sprigan totems which is ranged

[scarlet wren]

Okay im missing something obvious here.. how do i import lootfilters into the game? the clipboard function says it dosent have a valid lootfilter to import? its just a pastebin link 😂

[analog wadi]

you would have to click the pastebin link and copy the code of the lootfilter\

then that should be valid for "psate from clipboard

@scarlet wren

[scarlet wren]

i'll give it a shot 😄 thanks

[little veldt]

How do I get this idol? is it something that you craft?

[desert tree]

You can't craft idols, you will have to drop it

[little veldt]

frig, any way of knowing where to farm to get it to drop

[desert tree]

Not sure where you are at but there is a blessing for adorned idol (the 2x2 shape) drop rate. That can help a bit.
But most importantly make sure you are taking every idols drop in the monos

[latent herald]

@desert tree I just wanna say thanks for taking the time to ALWAYS answer in this chat, a true soldier 😄

[little veldt]

why is it important to pickup every idol in the monolith?

[surreal verge]

There’s a node in monoliths that gives you idol drops as a reward

[little veldt]

Thanks friends

you guys are very helpful

and kind

[sterile bane]

Yet!!!

[soft mural]

yo Im running into a problem where when I try to load from the character screen the game just crashes

[faint cape]

Try revalidating your files on steam, that's all I know

[latent herald]

I'm considering changing build on my runemaster 81, my only character - whats the preferred way of rerolling? farm new build items > respec least usefull skills / passive nodes > respec rest? am I thinking this through or is there smth I might regret? 😛

or just straight up bite the bullet and make a new toon

[icy drift]

Thats about right yeah , just get the basic items to make the new build work and then switch over , I would just respec all the skill at the same time personally

[latent herald]

would i be able to handle empowered mono with low level skills? + any idea how long it takes to remax them?

[icy drift]

It'll be fast in empowered and it shouldn't be an issue unless you're at quite a bit of corruption

[latent herald]

sweet thanks!

[soft mural]

worked thanks

[faint cape]

If you are worried, you can run an xp tome echo before respeccing. After completing it, respec all your skills and then grab the tomes to get them more levels, then respec your passives and do the gear swap.

[faint cape]

Yay!

[latent herald]

I tried a few of these nodes, the exp they give seems so negligeable no?

at least character exp

[faint cape]

Yeah for leveling your char it is, but for skills it's substantial, it'll level them back up to 17-20 depending on your level iirc

From a fresh respec

[zealous tusk]

Is vk wp still viable?

[icy drift]

Yes

[zealous tusk]

Build can do like 500+ corruption?

Because i just got the axe with 2 LP im thinking of creating one

And i land a crit chance on it too

[icy drift]

Not sure about 500+ but I imagine it can with good enough gear and investment

Bossing might be a bit slow though

[safe harness]

should with the t6 crit

[zealous tusk]

Vk wp is bad at boss fight?

[latent herald]

What could cause direct damage to HP and bypass ward? all DoTs?

[desert tree]

Dots should go into your ward

[latent herald]

hmm weird then, watching a video and the guy's health drop even when he has ward

[icy drift]

Nothing bypasses ward except for arena traps

[latent herald]

he is doing mono, video link with timestamp https://youtu.be/YwGtGBnL92c?si=us8rNuL7ieaghQ-o&t=35

[surreal verge]

Twisted heart

90% bet

[icy drift]

He's using twisted heart or something

[surreal verge]

DINGDINGDING

[icy drift]

I'm on a tablet kzb stop being so fast

[latent herald]

ding ding ding good catch

[surreal verge]

Oh it's a spark build

[latent herald]

yeah looking to improve my build without changing too much

can someone help me understand unique targetting? what are:

• effective level for LP
• drop from mono boss, what is "rare"? i can try to do it on empowered but do i need corruption? is so how much?

[marsh maple]

I would suggest Mad Alchemists Ladle

its BIS for most spark charge builds

[surreal verge]

LP: https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/legendary_items
Dropped:In this case, it's a boss only drop.

Of course,empowered if yopu can, but it does not list a corruption requirement, so it can drop on any.

[cinder musk]

Hey guys!
Just leveled my first character by doing monoliths with my mate. Thought id get the story in to get the idol slots and passives. While looking at the map you can see 15 passives but checking a site like lastepochtools it shows 23 quests. Whats correct here?

[surreal verge]

Both, there's more quests that give you points than the amount you can get.

[cinder musk]

Oh so 15 is the max amount i can get but there are like 23 quests incase one misses them? If i already got 15 that just means i wont the the passive as a reward?

[surreal verge]

Yes.

[cinder musk]

Guessing idols are the same? Would i be able to jump to acts where quests are if someone whos already done em got the waypoints or do i need to run the story aswell?

[surreal verge]

Yes, yes in theory, people can bring you to the quest starter

[cinder musk]

game just got alot better 😄 Thx alot!

[pulsar prism]

Is it intended for necromancer that dread shade is vastly superior in term of damage compared to bone curse ? Even with Sinathia's set which boost curse powers, Dread shade is about 2 or 3 times more powerful than bone curse when playing as a necro summoner full pets.

I wanted to level curse and use transplant to move around with the curse node but bone curse is way too much underperforming.

It's a bit sad.

[native sail]

Dread Shade is the most powerful thing on Necro by far.

It's intended in the sense that it's not bugged or broken or anything, it's just... better.

[pulsar prism]

Do they plan to balance stuff out later on ?

[native sail]

Is it the intended state of balance? Who knows. Bone Curse used to be extremely busted in both actual bugged aspects and power but got fixed and nerfed a few times.

[pulsar prism]

Oh, I didn't know

[native sail]

They do some balancing passes every patch so... yeah? It's not like they look at things and go "yeah this is literally impossible to beat but we like it so it's gonna stay"

[pulsar prism]

Ok

[native sail]

I do think on Necro Dread Shade is likely to remain the most potent buff by very nature though. It does a lot more than Bone Curse does, and Warlock will have more curse support to our knowledge as well. Dread Shade is just kinda Necro's thing

[pulsar prism]

Well, I wouldn't mind trading some damage for some movement skills since transplant can apply curse with the correct node, but 2-3 times less power feels a bit too heavy for the price.

[native sail]

Dread Shade just does too many things that Bone Curse doesn't. It's a buff in multiple aspects versus a rather constrained debuff, even if the debuff was extremely high it probably wouldn't compare to the utility of the multiple buffs.

[surreal verge]

It’s also the issue with that dread shade is a buff VS bone curse being a debuff

As necro you can’t scale bone curse’s damage anyway

[pulsar prism]

Indeed

[surreal verge]

Transplant can still help you by giving you bone armour

Which is free DR

[languid terrace]

is there some kind of a loot noise in this game? walking around a specific part of an Echo was making a sound like an item drop, but turned off my filter and couldnt see anything special. Could it be a sound signifying something else?

[icy drift]

Exalted items also make sounds when dropped, could maybe be that?

[scenic vigil]

is there a way to auto-pick up shards?

same as u can with gold*

[native sail]

No

And there likely won't ever be

[scenic vigil]

oh, would seems like a nice and easy QoL feature

[surreal verge]

Devs kinda WANT you to click to pick up

[scenic vigil]

oh ok fair enough

[desert tree]

Quote from EHG Mike about the shards

[scenic vigil]

Ah its ok, i just found it a bit tedious to pick them up constantly. would be easier to just walk over. xD

see no reason to leave them on the ground either.

[analog wadi]

personally i like picking them up

it feels good to vacuum a whle stash full of shards

but i hate going backwards when shards drop

[humble steeple]

I understand that this sounds like paranoia and a conspiracy theory, but have you ever noticed that in a single player game (even online) much more useful stuff drops (more unique, more legendary) than in co-op?

[native sail]

No

There is zero difference in loot between solo and party play, you can ask the data miners if you're skeptical

[humble steeple]

It would be logical that these are just coincidences.

[fading plaza]

hello, i have a question. i must chose in my first monolith between an echoe with +10 corruption but it will reset the monolith (if i m correct) or should i do the 3rd mission first for the boss and blessing? or will that also reset my monolith?

i have done the monolith before and already have my first blessing so not sure what to pick

[native sail]

Don't do corruption in normal monoliths, just kill the boss and move to the next until you unlock empowered. Whenever you are presented with a choice of any kind in quest echoes check both options and take the higher level one.

[fading plaza]

kill the boss as in the 3rd mission or the boss on the outskirts of the monolith?

[surreal verge]

3rd mission

[icy drift]

If you're doing none empowered monoliths just do the third quest and move on to the next timeline. You want to complete the following three:

• spirits of fire
• the last ruin
• the age of winter

They're located at the top right of the end of time map.

Once you complete them you'll unlock empowered monoliths where gaining corruption actually matters

[native sail]

^

[fading plaza]

ok thanks guys 🙂

if i can choose between 62 or 66 timeline, always play safe or is it possible to go fast and yolo?

if 66 is to hard i ll have to re do the first one, correct?

[toxic echo]

66-75-85 is the recommended path, since it gets you to the 90s fastest, and gives you the better blessing options.

Yes you would have to redo 58 to unlock 62. But its not really that much of a difference tbh

[fading plaza]

ok it s just that i understand the system and how it works, i have them both unlocked now (did 58 twice) so i ll go 66 to try

[toxic echo]

You dont loose xp on death, so, unless its HC, just go for it

[sick dock]

Any reason that my buddies when they play are constantly losing connection to the game server or just getting locked up when trying to change zones in MP?

My one friend and I played all night without issue. These other two are constantly just getting stuck Entering Zone or losing connection to the server

[cedar locust]

What server are you all connecting to?

[sick dock]

US East

Its happening pretty regularly at this point. 4 times in the last 30 mins

aaaaaand again.

[desert tree]

Are you all from the same server?

[sick dock]

Yep

[wispy ether]

Yeah I'm the one friend from above and I actually just died on a hardcore character. The desync seems to happen most often with transitions but over the last half hour has gotten progressively worse from being unable to manage skill points to seeing enemies dead and them continuing to hit.

[sick dock]

@wispy ether Is the other player

[wispy ether]

Same server US east

[cedar locust]

Sorry about your HC character! Would you all mind trying another server for me? Another US one or the EU West server.

Some players have a more stable connection even if the ping looks like it's 'worse'

[sick dock]

Hes gonna take a break for now because of the loss but ill make sure we try that next play

[cedar locust]

Understandable - next time you load in, it would be helpful if you could do so on your usual servers and submit an in game bug report explaining the desync and disconnects. This will send the relevant logs over to the team before you try again on a different server.

If it continues to happen on other servers, the next thing to try is changing your DNS settings or using a VPN (selecting a local server is fine, this is to test if there is an issue caused between your ISP and the game servers)

[lean pewter]

Hi. I am in a situation with several characters. Empowered monoliths seem to difficult (specifically - bosses). But in regular monoliths I'm not getting gear which would be close to what I need for my builds. Sitting at around 1.5k health tops. I don't really understand how people reach 3.5k+ health. Is there a specific place to farm gear before empowered monos? Or a specific approach to craft for desired stats that I am missing?

[surreal verge]

Craft health at most places.

Most gear is crafted from an item with 2 desired affixes.

[lean pewter]

Yeah that's what I'm doing, at least I think so. Chaos-ing unwanted affixes, crafting what I need afterwards.

[surreal verge]

Sealing a low tier affix that is "Sure, but I don't need need it" also works

Eg: a t1 resist that you already have somewhere else

[lean pewter]

Despairs are more scarce though

[surreal verge]

Yeah they're more situational

[rotund pecan]

Im at level 29 after about 10hrs of play. Is that a normal amount of time for story progression in this game? Or am i going really slow?

[surreal verge]

[wide sentinel]

in 10 hours you can get to the endgame and be around lvl 70

[rotund pecan]

is that with good game knowledge and using twink leveling gear or something?

[wide sentinel]

no twink gear

just good build

[rotund pecan]

i made my own summoner build with mages and archers and golems. All cold focused.

Maybe thats the problem

[surreal verge]

Oh

Necro doesn't have enough cold support

[wide sentinel]

summons shuoldnt be an issue the reason u go slow is probably cause you kill mobs and spend too much time clearing

[surreal verge]

Unless you're running a very specific build.

[surreal verge]

This too

[rotund pecan]

i am clearing a lot while trying to find where to go 😄

[wide sentinel]

well thats your answer

[rotund pecan]

so is physical or fire summons stronger?

[surreal verge]

Fire can work I guess, but honestly at campaign, anything with the same damage type can work

[surreal verge]

This is probably the core issue.

[rotund pecan]

gotcha makes sense, thanks yall. I added a filter condition to not show any magic rarities and they are still showing on ground. Im confused

[surreal verge]

Loot filter does not hide anything by default.

[surreal verge]

Did you accidentally turned it off? (Z)

[rotund pecan]

where would i turn it off accidentally?

[surreal verge]

Keybindings.

(It also show a chat messeage)

[last kettle]

Hey guys, I was wondering how should I craft this one. Slam some hp% and try to get perfect implicits?

[desert tree]

Holy shirt!

[rotund pecan]

Found this hotkey. It turns off all loot from showing on thhe ground but that is outside of whatever loot filter i have on

[fringe birch]

@acoustic thicket is trying to get in empowered monos in 3 hours atm https://www.twitch.tv/ter3k

[surreal verge]

There should be a keybind that disables your filter.

[surreal verge]

Is that double T7 on the same item?

[last kettle]

yeah

[surreal verge]

Did you suck off satan for that?

[last kettle]

maybe Santa brought me a late xmas gift

[rotund pecan]

when i press the loot filter toggle keybind, it automatically enables it again from one key press. What the fuck is going on ugh

[last kettle]

first map after a month away xD

[wide sentinel]

lol i dont belive but we will see hahah

[surreal verge]

Yeah it's supposed to be that button

[low coyote]

Satan/Santa only a typo away...

[latent herald]

do we have info when the first cycle will launch? I dont think it's with 1.0 right?

[icy drift]

You can't have that health Regen tainting such an item, removal

Just hit the 1 in 3 and don't run out of fp crafting it after and you ascend, ez

[desert tree]

It will be at 1.0
21st of February
Straight away

@icy drift

[last kettle]

@icy drift with 1.0 coming in a month I might just try the removal xD

I'm scared... I'll sleep over it and decide tomorrow

[icy drift]

That's what I'm saying

You can forever flex with it

Can't flex with regen

[pastel pebble]

2/3rd a chance of fucking up forever too

[icy drift]

He clicked left instead of right on fall of the outcast lul

[wide sentinel]

[acoustic thicket]

FFS

[pastel pebble]

R I P

[acoustic thicket]

I had very good rng too

[south wigeon]

gys, how can I find the boss how drops apathy maw axe? im at 1oo corruption - so basically any node that resets echo? in what direction should I go? is it just random?

[minor vigil]

yes it's just the shade of orobyss

it's quite common

[south wigeon]

so patience then :d

[minor vigil]

just go any direction

[round portal]

what to do next ?

[minor vigil]

flip to divine era -> put item in -> flip to ruined era -> take item out

[latent herald]

oh awesome, i only found one mention of it from a (mike?) livestream, but no mention of what the cycle mechanic is - do we have any other leaks? 😄

[toxic echo]

The "cycle mechanic" is the item factions along with the two missing classes. Thats it. Its their first release. People need to know the base game first before you add stuff.

[latent herald]

fair i guess - so legacy will not have factions on day 1, we need to make new chars?

[toxic echo]

Legacy will have all the bells and whistles that "live" does. They have stated they dont want 2 versions of the game. You will need to make new toons for the "live" version every cycle, yes. But the legacy toons will not be missing out on anything except a fresh leaderboard and economy for trading