❔┃ask-the-community

[glacial shell]

yea, i have really good health regeneration and as much base health as i could find :D some armor, too. I'm a necromancer so i dont expect to be that tanky myself

[dapper tide]

Hey Guys wonder if you could help, I seem to have a mission stuck " The Immortal Empire" Speak with Gasper in the End of time, but I only see Elder Gasper here, not sure what to do

[glacial shell]

did you miss the spiral stone-stairway like I did when I got there?

he's on the upper level

[dapper tide]

Yeah I did walk up the spiral stairway, spoke to him, opened a portal then nothing changed, I have gone through that portal, land up at Council chambers and its just another Elder Gasper

[dapper tide]

Looks like I got it thanks

[stone lynx]

Hi there, i sorted my chest and some loots out of my sceen, some button can reset view?

[toxic echo]

z or alt+z to toggle ground items, sometimes they will move back to their drop point

[stone lynx]

BIG THANKS!! worked alt+z!

[glacial shell]

is there a good reason to "finish" shards all the way or do I just want to go on as soon as I'm able?

[sudden trellis]

which timeline is Abomination at?

[desert tree]

1st one , Fall of the Outcast

[faint cape]

If you are in a really juicy map (lots of rare mobs, especially weak ones) or you have an active xp shrine on you it is sometimes nice to kill some more past the objective. Otherwise, only if you see a cache or rune prison on your map, always grab those. Sometimes shrines, too.

[balmy current]

More kills = more loot from the chest ata the end plus more stability.

[fiery beacon]

What does this mean?

[surreal verge]

Whenever you leech, you leech that much more.

[glacial shell]

didnt know that it affected the chest. that is good to know

[balmy current]

It increaases the amount of hp you get from leech.

[fiery beacon]

oooh, lmao. Basically 11% increased leech rate?

[balmy current]

That's a separate effect, but sure.

[fiery beacon]

i see, thanks

[balmy current]

They'd both increase the amount you leech per second from the same amount of damage

[dreamy raft]

How can I get bless buff like in the right photo.

[sinful laurel]

Go to empowered monos

[sinful laurel]

Ok that's pretty cool discord. Touche

[dreamy raft]

That means next time I need to kill the boss again to upgrade the blessing, right?

[sinful laurel]

Yes. And get lucky that that blessing drops, and get lucky that it's a high roll

[dreamy raft]

im clipped from astepochtools web for comparison

[sinful laurel]

I know

[dreamy raft]

ty so much

[timber dawn]

is there a good place to find some beginner guides on mage?

brand new level 6

[surreal verge]

"fuck around and find out"

[balmy current]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/search?q=%40boardman21 levelling guide

The Runemaster ones are the newest

[glacial shell]

I've also started relatively recently and while it's not mage specific, i think you should definitely check out a guide on how crafting works in LE. it seems much more important than other ARPGs

[timber dawn]

Yup, i remember hearing that as well. thank you!

anything else i MUST know off the rip?

[toxic echo]

Read the game guide. Its got tons of good info on the game.

[rancid gate]

Is it possible to turn an item into an exalted item through crafting?

[surreal verge]

No.

Exalted have t6 and t7s, which are tiers that cannot be crafted by any means.

That's exactly why exalteds existed.

[rancid gate]

ok thank you

[mighty ivy]

So I just got the game last night, and not sure if this is the correct place to ask this but needing help knowing if there is a way to get past the "server load time" screen when I start the game up. I restarted the game a few times last night and was able to get in but having the issue again today. Is this common or is there a way to get around it to where it will stop?

[spice creek]

hey guys

If I buy the game, will I need to rebuy if it officially releases

?

[surreal verge]

no

[glacial shell]

does "+X to all skills" exist outside of unique / set items?

[surreal verge]

No,there's only +X to X skill.

[toxic anvil]

how may total monos do we have to do to reach empowered?

[native sail]

5 I think?

Sorry, 7, I went and counted them

[toxic anvil]

ah yikes

[glacial shell]

what does "healing effectiveness" affect? is it only for actual skills that i can actively use or is it also going to help with stuff like "if my minion punches a guy, I get +17 HP"

[sinful laurel]

Only actual skills that are healing skills. Not leech or life gain on hit

Or health Regen

[desert tree]

If a friend/party member tp you only 3

[toxic anvil]

how lol?

[carmine coyote]

Last 3 only

[swift star]

any way to make it so that just running near a zone transition doesn't trigger because activate and move are the same key?

[sinful laurel]

That's not why but also no. Lol

[crisp violet]

whats the best way to earn gold while still going through campaign? my runes of shattering are running low

[sinful laurel]

Finishing the campaign and getting to empowered monos

Don't waste your shatters on random gear, save them and removals for gear with rare affixes and class affixes you actually need

The rest of the shards drop like candy

[toxic anvil]

what about removals?

ive been using them to get specific shards also

[sinful laurel]

As you should. That's the right way

[toxic anvil]

do we get a lot of em?

[sinful laurel]

I have 800

But starting out, save them for gear that has valuable affixes you want

I still save them lol. I don't removal unless it's worth it.

[toxic anvil]

lol im using some for %inc mana

i have very few of those

[sinful laurel]

That's fair

If it's important to you and you need it then all good

[toxic anvil]

aight cooool

[desert tree]

How do you calculate dmg reduction?

Let's say I've got 60% res, 10% armor mitigation and 35% from block effect

[toxic anvil]

Multiply I believe

.4 * .9 * .65 I think?

[desert tree]

Oh forgot to do 1- xxx

[misty helm]

welp, I just wasted a dozen rune of research not realizing that I needed to upgrade the gear first if I wanted to get glyphs of insight. do we have a table somehwere with glyph drop chances based on TAT? I just did a dozen unupgraded T4 experimentals thinking it was based on teh experimental affix not TAT, no drops. then the very first item I upgraded had a glyph, and I remember them dropping frequently before. basically, looking for what min TAT has a decent drop rate.

and if the experimental doesnt matter, I need to adjust my loot filter to let them drop easier and just upgrade the rest I guess?

[misty helm]

also, anyone know a good tool for calculating odds of improving an item over X rolls? I have a bunch of probability calculators saved for MTG and chances in card games, but I dont know what calculator to look for when it comes to odds of improving in ranges. preferably one where I could weight each affix.

I guess maybe i should just go search for PoE tools and see what comes up

basic mathing says 6% chance to improve both prefix per roll, but thats if ignoring suffix, and doesnt include the whole forging potential system of also rolling potential cost per roll

[viscid spruce]

Do all affixes have 7 tiers?

[sinful laurel]

i cant think of any non-unique affix that doesnt

so. yes pretty sure

[viscid spruce]

Thank you ❤️

[lament stirrup]

is better controller support confirmed for 1.0?

[faint cape]

Yes

[glacial ocean]

Can a bleed minion forge guard with a focus on the forge weapons specifically work? the weapons seem to have a good amount of attack speed, so it got me curious

[lament stirrup]

awesome glad to know

[amber void]

how's the interaction with added damage on skills (Spirit plague + Rotmind)? The added damage benefits from increases/more damage?

[polar holly]

when a skill passive converts base damage to cold, does it also convert added damage?

[sinful laurel]

If the added damage is adaptive yes (doesn't have a type associated)

[polar holly]

what will the element of these adaptive added spell damage be?

oh okay

[polar holly]

i have another question, if a skill's primary lightning, and i add cold damage to spells from sceptre, will it deal mixed damage, i.e. both cold and lightning? How will adaptive spell damage get added in this case?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/primal_lightning

[sinful laurel]

Adaptive always adapts to the base of the skill. Non adaptive will still add in based on the skill tags and will be applied but obviously won't be boosted by any specific damage bonuses of the now converted damage type

[polar holly]

hmm okay

[toxic anvil]

does your teammate need stability to join u in a mono final fight?

[swift star]

for online characters, is there a limit to how many you can have?

[native sail]

20

[swift star]

thanks 😄

[toxic anvil]

if I hide affixes in a filter, it wont hide shards on the ground right?

[native sail]

Correct, only gear with those affixes on it

[toxic anvil]

got it

[swift star]

I don't know how I feel about ||us being the ones killing the Gods when that is kinda how the Immortal Emperor started out...||

[sinful laurel]

Cyclic time multiverse shenanigans

[swift star]

||am I the immortal emperor?|| 😄

[sterile widget]

Maybe

[surreal verge]

Yes.

[acoustic thicket]

How do we use mastery skills? I think I unlocked summon wraith from necromancer and can’t figure out how to use it

[desert tree]

If you have chosen the necromancer mastery you just need to put the skill on your skill bar

[acoustic thicket]

I was guessing that, but my skill bar disappears when I open the menu

I’m playing on my steam deck so I’ll keep looking for another way

[flint elm]

Is the game gonna come out for ps5?

[sterile widget]

Not any time soon, but the devs have said they like to get on console one day

[lofty mirage]

when is it worth using a rune of ascendance?

thinking of using them to get smoke weavers cos the shift cooldown is annoying me

[sterile widget]

Whenever you want

[buoyant sinew]

a case like this is a great time to use them in my opinion

[sterile widget]

They are there to help you find items you don't have

[buoyant sinew]

exactly

[lofty mirage]

oh cool alright, thanks

[buoyant sinew]

and using them to get a relatively common item isn't a waste, they're relatively common themselves (in the endgame)

[glacial shell]

do i have to unlock the ability to do something with the "legendary potential" uniques I keep getting?

[desert tree]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/legendary_items

Press G open the Game Guide, type legendary

[glacial shell]

i see. if i have a unique bone scythe, does it fuse with any 2h axe or just another bone scythe?

[desert tree]

2h axe with 2h axe

You need the same type, does not matter what the sub type is

[glacial shell]

and rerolling it is fine, right, but since it says "exactly 4 unsealed affixes" i need to avoid unsealing one

[zealous tusk]

How do you guys solve mana problem? Im playing bladedancer

[desert tree]

You can seal one but it wont be able to be transfered or does not count in the 4 unsealed affixes required

So if you seal and end up your craft with 3 affix +1 seal, you cant use that item

[glacial shell]

ah then i definitely should avoid that :D imagine if seal the one i want to transfer >.>

[desert tree]

Something like this probably. I am not a rogue player I am not sure

[zealous tusk]

I see thanks

[glacial shell]

i finished all the normal timelines in the monolith, where do I go from there?

[surreal verge]

Check the island inbetween the 3 lv 90 monoliths

[glacial shell]

ah there it is

[faint cape]

No. They can join and will get credit for the kill in terms of monolith progress, but will not get drops nor a blessing.

[faint cape]

On pc, you left click on the skill bar slot you want to reassign and pick from a popup menu - just do the steam deck equivalent of that

[fading wharf]

Looking for a strong bow build, I got almost every bow weith atleast 1LP and now and that arrowsmth quivers and one other multiple on 2LP, what would be the strongest/fun to go for?

I've never played a rogue yet, only all the other classes many times

[desert tree]

Flurry/Multishot

[fading wharf]

you got a tools link to the 'most prestiged' one?

[desert tree]

Nope

[fading wharf]

alright, np, let my searching begin :)

lets hope my stash tab of T7 exal quivers and bows prove worthy of having one filled up for ages

[toxic anvil]

Ah so ignore the warning? And will they get drops and a blessing if they do have the stability?

[surreal verge]

The warning means they won't get drops or blessings, but still get whatever else

[toxic anvil]

Ahhh ok, by drops you mean echo specific drops right? Not regular drops?

[faint cape]

The warning only applies to the boss, which doesn't really have regular drops. I mean, they might get regular drops from the boss (it's been a while so I don't remember), but they definitely cannot get any of the boss-exclusive drops.

[glacial shell]

are any of the keys I am currently drowning in worth saving? I've only done one of these dungeons and it seemed like at the end I need a ton of gold. my keys to gold ratio seems to be definitely key-heavy

[cedar locust]

Lightless Arbor is 'the gold sink' dungeon - you get great rewards the higher your spend!

Temporal Sanctum is needed to create Legendary items!

Soulfire Bastion has some good Uniques from the Boss and the Gambler!

[native sail]

Temporal Sanctum is required to make legendary items, Soulfire Bastion let's you gamble items in specific slots, Lightless Arbor is a gold sink with good rewards, and Arena sucks.

[glacial shell]

ah so they dont all cost a lot of money. doesnt sound like any of the keys are rare, though, so i guess if i save 5 of each, I should be okay? because right now I've got almost one full stash tab of keys :D

[cedar locust]

I'd say 10-15 but I'm a hoarder 😅 When you want to try crafting Legendaries or farming a specific item drop tied to a dungeon, you don't want to have to farm Keys too

[glacial shell]

yea I'm hoarding too that is part of my problem :D I'm about to take out a payday loan to finance my stash tabs D:

I actually do feel like a hoarder "no I cant possibly throw this idol away. maybe one day i will need to resist 4% fire damage and then what? hu? THEN WHAT?"

[desert tree]

1 tab of each is the law

[cedar locust]

It's a struggle to be sure! I follow this guide -

Is it low level enough to get an alt character to a decent place to earn their own gear?
Is it a Unique I don't have, or better than the version I do have? Is it a Set Item I don't have?
Is this Idol a mid or high roll?
Do I need this item to shatter for a rare affix?

If yes, then Keep - if no, then Throw!

[glacial shell]

yea i only keep one of each thing i dont already own

...mostly

[toxic anvil]

No plans to allow skipping of regular monos if we have them unlocked on another char right?

[desert tree]

Iirc they agreed it's not fun and need to be addressed in some way

[toxic anvil]

And no campaign skips either right?

I swear the only thing stopping me from ever creating a new char is monos and campaign

It feels like a massive chore at this point

I don’t want this to turn into a one char a league game

[glacial shell]

if i replace my skeletal mages with pyromancers, do i respec the points out of undead mortar and battle hardened or do the fire boys also benefit from it?

[surreal verge]

They both still work, but the mortar still does it's normal damage type (Necrotic), but they do fully benefit from battle hardened.

[glacial shell]

then I'll keep it i think.

[toxic anvil]

what happens when I use a glyph of order on an affix that has a single number as its range at current tier, but if upgraded will have a multiple number range?

[native sail]

Well then you get the funny background thing of "where did it roll decimal wise"

[toxic anvil]

huh?

[native sail]

Almost every single thing in the game has decimals in the background which can (and in history, do) affect how glyph of order will turn out. So if you have something that's written as a range of "1 to 1" it's possible for it to actually be, say "0.75" behind the curtain and when upgraded to a tier that has a wider range will use that as the determiner for what percentage of the roll it would be. It used to be a huge issue with some uniques.

[lunar holly]

I've been wondering ... should we always aim for 101+ sheet crit avoidance (unless wearing woven flesh) then ?

[toxic anvil]

so we can't tell lol?

[native sail]

Pretty much yeah

[toxic anvil]

ah

also anyone get a bugged ruined world quest?

i tpd a friend to the surface

and its stuck on "Reach The Surface beyond The Sheltered Wood"

[native sail]

With res they have the little parentheses thing under them that shows up when you actually clear 75% (even if it's only by like 0.5%, not sure if crit avoid has the same though

[amber void]

there's any way to report a player?

[native sail]

!support

[ripe brook]

Let's work together to get it sorted! We've support articles and a contact form here: https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[native sail]

Upper right corner of the site has a submit button

[amber rain]

Hey, I can't find anything on how Locust Swarm's duration scales. The base duration is 4s and there's a node that increased duration by 100%, but it can last much longer than 8s and I assume it scales with the amount of locusts you consume? Can't find anything on that though

[faint cape]

It is explained in the Alt text on the skill - but Alt text is not shown in online tools, only in game

It's 15% increased area and duration as well as +15 phys and +15 poison damage per locust consumed

They are all additive with other sources of area/duration/damage

Oh shoot, almost forgot my shameless plug. The cold conversion does NOT convert the added physical and poison damage, only its base damage, so the cold conversion does almost nothing.

[sinful laurel]

toast is nothing if not consistent 🙂

[amber rain]

Where exactly does it say that?

[faint cape]

It's actually on swarm strike

I didn't even think about finding locust swarm's tooltip, since it's kinda hidden away 😅

[amber rain]

Ok weird it's not on the Locust Swarm tooltip

[faint cape]

Yeah, locust swarm is just a subskill of swarm strike really, so the effect description is mostly there instead (since it's the skill actually on your bar)

As a nice bonus though, that means all effects that apply to swarm strike apply to locust swarm as well

This, for example, gives locust swarm 12% more damage per point, since it doesn't specify "hit" damage

[sudden trellis]

so if I select Found Character when creating a new char, I can't access the shared stash with my other char?

[sinful laurel]

Correct

[desert tree]

Well that's how it work in offline

In online not yet

It's actually solo account found

You will be able to do ssf at 1.0

[sudden trellis]

so no stash sharing in online?

regardless I select character found or not

[cedar locust]

They might be able to fix this by TPing back to the waypoint just before this quest and running through it as intended.

Have you travelled through any zone transition points since TPing them to yourself?

[cedar locust]

Thanks for letting us know!

[toxic anvil]

ah yeah i tpd them further and it worked 🙂

[surreal verge]

Stash is shared by default.

There's no way to say "I don't want to stash share" right now except with hardcore

[sudden trellis]

I'm sorry but why is sharing or not sharing stash is even optional? I'm sure more than plenty people like me who doesn't know won't select Self Found when creating their first chars at 1.0 and come to realize that their alts don't have access to items they collected. If a person wants to farm for the character itself without help from other alts, he/she can avoid using stash, create new tabs or there can be UI for seperate "Character Stash" and "Account Stash". I farmed for 2 weeks thinking yeah I'll start a primalist and acolyte after this one is done, and I got my main to 300+ corruption but playing the same thing bored me but now I can't have all the goodies I farmed with that char because I'm not a 15 year old ARPG player who knows all the lingo and didn't expect that a game in 2023 wouldn't have account shared stash because... reasons. Such a braindead mechanic, not gonna play a game that blinds with me this so I can farm even more now = more playtime statistics to shareholders and executies baybeee. See you guys on 1.0!

[native sail]

...What?

[cedar locust]

Personal choice in limitations.

You can report the misunderstanding of game types to us though as that's something we want to make sure is clear to players when they choose!

[viscid spruce]

That is uh.. certainly one way to go about giving feedback, that's for sure.

Kind of related - are offline characters automatically considered "Circle of Fortune" since we can't trade?

[cedar locust]

Yep!

[native sail]

To my knowledge, yeah

[viscid spruce]

Is this feature out yet? How do I know/see my rank for it?

[native sail]

Not yet, that comes at 1.0

[viscid spruce]

Ah, okay. Thank you 🙂

[cedar locust]

If you want to read up on how CoF will work we have this blog post - Trade Update

[viscid spruce]

Oh don't you worry, I saw that. As a solo/offline player I'm pretty excited there's a kind of "buff"/option that makes me not feel so bad/disadvantaged for wanting to play my way 🙂

[lunar holly]

currently when you create a character in online you have a checkbox that says "Character Found", which is a typo and should actually say "solo account found" (SAF)

• characters with that checkbox turned on can't play in party and have stash shared between them
• characters without that checkbox can play in party and have stash shared between them

currently the only way to have stash not shared between characters is if one is SAF an the other is not, however if your character is SAF you can go to Settings > Challenges and opt out of it and get access to your non-SAF stash

here's a potato for anyone who read: 🥔

[cedar locust]

POTATO!! 🥔

I have logged this from the Feedback Forums for you Jarq!

[viscid spruce]

So what does CAF stand for? Your post doesn't say.

[lunar holly]

it was a typo 😄

[viscid spruce]

Alright, nice. Thank you 🙂

[sudden trellis]

that's what I'm saying, why is it up to player to choose that option? not everyone knows or even reads the things on screen, most people will see a popular streamer playing LE and jump right in and create a char without giving much thought and 1 week later realize "Oh it's MY fault that I'm not sharing items". Why would anyone NOT want to share items between their chars other than hardcore players?

[glacial shell]

what is the base item (1h weapon) I'm looking for as a summoning necromancer? I was expecting one of the wands to have implicit minion stuff but it doesnt seem to be the case?

[viscid spruce]

Well, a few things there. It's the persons own fault for not reading & you can still share items, just make your other char SAF as well. You can also just opt the char outta SAF and then your other chars can be created non-SAF too. The checkbox is also off by default, so you purposely have to check it on to be SAF.

At least to my understanding.

[cedar locust]

Imposed diffculty option without having to choose HC

[native sail]

The default is to share items. So... You have to intentionally turn on the system to NOT

[viscid spruce]

But you still can share, you just have to make your other chars also SAF, correct?

[native sail]

Correct, inability to share items between characters at all is only in offline right now

[viscid spruce]

Is SAF in Last Epoch not just the same as SSF in Path of Exile? For those that know PoE.

[faint cape]

Oh, is this a done deal now?

[native sail]

You are correct

[sudden trellis]

That's what I'm saying, ingame description when SF is selected is already confusing enough, if a person is gonna play hardcore, they more than likely min maxed every guide and video on the game beforehand, whereas casuals won't even know.

[cedar locust]

I do believe Mike confirmed this, let my go find the post!

[native sail]

People wanting to play SSF and people wanting to play HC are not going to be a 100% overlap

[viscid spruce]

I actually prefer the term SAF over SSF, tbh.. it's more clear in my mind.

[faint cape]

Right, but as far as I know you still need to "unlock" it at the appropriate story point and choose it from how it sounded

Like, it would give you the option to choose MG for some reason (though possibly will be disabled for solo/offline) or go with neither

just for more self-imposed challenge, I guess

[cedar locust]

Oooh, is that what was asked? I think you'll need to reach the correct point of the Campaign to unlock CoF as usual, though I'm not sure how the selection choice will look! I'm sure the team have considered it already and have a plan!

[viscid spruce]

Not that I'd ever do it personally, but the option of none/neither is a good point to bring up.

[faint cape]

Okay cool, like Wolfie I probably won't do it myself normally, but I figure that may be an interesting challenge mode for people into that or races/events

Thanks as always!

[surreal verge]

Well if you pick to enable/disable something without reading what it does, then you can join the TCG community, people don't read there-

[surreal verge]

Axes, scepters iirc

[faint cape]

Swords can also work in a pinch, but don't have any minion implicits like axes do

[wide sentinel]

But why are you saying that you dont have acess to your farmed items when you do have it

You can acess all your loot if the new character that u created is on the same game mode as your first one

I dont see whats the issue here

[glacial shell]

should I be getting one-shot with 2k hp, 75% in all resistances and 1400 armor in empowered monoliths? (at their "base" corruption, that is)

[swift star]

when it comes to monoliths... if I do one with my buddy, and I die, he can still get the reward, and vers visa right?

also, it sounds like there are monoliths for bows, and monoliths for swords/daggers, etc... does this mean that we won't both get good gear drops in the same monolith if I am playing ranged, and he's playing melee?

[toxic echo]

Lots of moving parts.

1400 armour is fairly low depending om your class. Only like 20% phys hit help. And less non phys.

Do you have crit avoid/reduced crit dmg taken?

What other defenses do you have? Endurance, ward, dodge/glancing?

[viscid spruce]

I'm looking at this filter https://www.lastepochtools.com/loot-filters/view/3VBM4nQ7 and notice that RECOLOR CLASS SPECIFIC MODS - XX - SHATTER is above things such as RECOLOR ITEMS FOR ANY CLASS 2+ GOOD STATS & TIER 3+ & RECOLOR ITEMS FOR ANY CLASS 3+ GOOD STATS & TIER 3+.

Won't this mean that it will color things as if I should shatter them even if the item was actually GG and had 2 or 3 good stats t3+?
Why is the order not reversed with 2/3 t3+ stats at the top, so that they catch first before the shatter rule?

[glacial shell]

I'm a necromancer, dont see that many ways for me to get armor, what i saw, i took. also dont see much i can do for dodging

[wide sentinel]

necro gets free armor from vit stacking+dread shade buff

[toxic echo]

Bone armour is very good (transplant bone curse) and just things on your gear and blessings. And im sure there are other ways

Ya, dodge would be hard for necro. Could also look into ward depending on build. What about the crit avoid? That is very high priority for most if not all builds in empowered

[glacial shell]

i have bone armor

i have some crit avoid. but i dont think what killed me was crits

[wide sentinel]

well as necro your best defense is getting twisted heart to get 6k+ward on certain builds 10K+ or just dont get hit since you do not need to engage with mobs in any way

some builds go LL

also viable option

[glacial shell]

LL?

[wide sentinel]

low life

and ya dread shade armor buff is huge

[glacial shell]

i mean i just go from full to dead or it's not a problem

i dont have dread shade

[surreal verge]

Wait

What?

you're not using dread shade?

[wide sentinel]

ye minion build without dread shade?

thats just wrong

[surreal verge]

No no

More like "You're missing free damage"

It doesnt' really help defense wise

[glacial shell]

so what i have to take dread shade or my class isnt playable? >.>

[surreal verge]

You're losing a very good chunk of damage.

[wide sentinel]

no but you are missing free double damage as well as 25armor per pt of vit which scales into thousands of armor with right gear

[viscid spruce]

I also dislike the "dread shade is basically mandatory" playstyle for minions, honestly.

[surreal verge]

It doesn't help your defense, but well, if they're dead faster you would need less defense.

[wide sentinel]

it does with armor

that node is pretty op

[surreal verge]

The issue is that the buff is SO good it's kinda gimping yourself, or you're doing something non-usual

[viscid spruce]

I wanted to go full minion/lazy-mancer, but you just can't not take dread shade :\

[surreal verge]

Lazy mancer doesn't work well in LE tbh

[glacial shell]

same :D that is my jam

[wide sentinel]

[viscid spruce]

Dread Shade isn't that bad, to be fair. It's 40s duration. Let me link you my build.

[glacial shell]

also the things that kill me wouldnt not kill me if I did more DPS

[wide sentinel]

well if you are plaing lazy zoo then all u can do is not getting hit

[surreal verge]

Even if dread shade doesn't exist, infernal's minion buff node would be used insyead

[wide sentinel]

since you have so many minions to hide behind

[glacial shell]

what i die to is stuff like, the last one was some kind of moon spire thing that did a huge AOE that i didnt see the marker of

[surreal verge]

Yeah being lazy means you have all the attention in the world to dodge attacks.

[viscid spruce]

I'm sure this is going to get picked apart.. but here's my Fire Summoner: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/KQbXawLo

[neon compass]

Necromancer, Level 100 (Beta 0.9.2f)

Class:

Acolyte (21) / Necromancer (92)

General:

▸ Health: 1,092, Regen: 22/s
▸ Mana: 103, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 80%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 20 Int / 1 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 30% / 30% / 30% / 0% / 0% / 87% / 17%
▸ EHP: 792 / 792 / 792 / 656 / 656 / 1,148 / 727

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 218

Damage Types:

▸ Necrotic / Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical, Necrotic / Spell, Melee, Bow

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Summon Skeleton (20)
• Summon Skeletal Mage (20)
• Summon Bone Golem (20)
• Summon Wraith (20)
• Dread Shade (20)

Used unique items:

None

[surreal verge]

Jesus that's some dogwater health

[viscid spruce]

It's just skills and passives.

[surreal verge]

Wait

[glacial shell]

yea, that is kinda what i have except instead of dread shade i have teleport-from-wish

that cant go over walls

[surreal verge]

You took all these minions and DIDNT run Empty The Graves?

[toxic echo]

If you are getting one shot, and you dont have crit avoid/reduced crit at 100%...gonna have a bad time. Its literally 1 blessing and an affix slot (only 1 slot on some uniques)

[viscid spruce]

I was trying to go full summon with Abom, but dropped abom for the dread shade.

[toxic anvil]

Empty the graves?

[surreal verge]

It is free defense.

[toxic anvil]

Ahh yeah

[surreal verge]

Espically if you're running mass minions

[toxic anvil]

How many minions are we talking?

[viscid spruce]

I'd likely move 4pts from Heresy, I guess?

[viscid spruce]

I'm currently at, uh.. 15? I think.

[glacial shell]

i think i have even more :D

[toxic anvil]

240 armor huh

[glacial shell]

it was great until it wasnt

[toxic anvil]

That’s a free gear piece worth of armor

[viscid spruce]

I have every +max minion node, so I think 15 is my limit.

[toxic anvil]

Plus the %inc from your other sources

[glacial shell]

i didnt take "wraiths last forever" so i have 8 wraith that last quite a while

[viscid spruce]

Oh, true. I went with permanent ones, so only have two. But I never have to resummon 🙂

[surreal verge]

You don't have cold minions, so Blades of the Forlorn is pretty low value.

1 passive point for 7% crit multi

And I guess chill chance

[viscid spruce]

Crit multi isn't worth the pts?

[glacial shell]

yea but i need something that dies so i can summon my +3 free skelly spearmen

[viscid spruce]

Or moreso, I should leave Heresy at 10pts and remove from BotF instead?

[surreal verge]

200%+70% is okay ish? but idk if it's worth enough.

It barely doubles their crit damage.

[viscid spruce]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/zQq8JWYA

[neon compass]

Necromancer, Level 100 (Beta 0.9.2f)

Class:

Acolyte (21) / Necromancer (92)

General:

▸ Health: 1,092, Regen: 22/s
▸ Mana: 103, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 84%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 21 Int / 1 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 30% / 30% / 30% / 0% / 0% / 87% / 17%
▸ EHP: 792 / 792 / 792 / 656 / 656 / 1,148 / 727

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 218

Damage Types:

▸ Necrotic / Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical, Necrotic / Spell, Melee, Bow

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Summon Skeleton (20)
• Summon Skeletal Mage (20)
• Summon Bone Golem (20)
• Summon Wraith (20)
• Dread Shade (20)

Used unique items:

None

[viscid spruce]

Stop it bot 💢

[viscid spruce]

Where skeleton spearman at 😮 ? I'm interested.

[surreal verge]

Skele vanguards.

It's chance based tho

[glacial shell]

uhm it#s one of the necromancer passives. 1 point for 4% chance to get some. but since i spam wraiths i have them all the time

[surreal verge]

Yeah don't see a major issue aside for what I said already

👍

[viscid spruce]

Was that updated tree better?

[viscid spruce]

^ here

[surreal verge]

Yeah it is, no issues to my eyes

YOu'll have some decent armour with all minions up

[viscid spruce]

Should I move the last 5pts from BotF to something else still? Blood Armour or something?

[glacial shell]

yea, i also have something that gives armor for each minion. that's why i want many guys intead of a few big guys

[surreal verge]

Honestly idk what else is good, it can stay there

It's otherwise a "You'll have to find out what's better" deal.

[viscid spruce]

I was kinda wanting more points in Blood Armour. That extra bit of regen for minions so I don't have to resummon as often from the slow death of them.

[surreal verge]

Since there's no super good nodes left.

Fuck around and find out I guess.

[viscid spruce]

I only just hit monoliths, so we'll slowly figure it out.

[surreal verge]

[viscid spruce]

Why does bot say Phys damage as well.. should I be pumping that up along with Fire?

If so, Unearthed Arms seems very good. I just thought my minions were basically all Fire so I didn't touch it.

[surreal verge]

Your skeletons and golem still do physical damage as auto attacks

[viscid spruce]

Is it enough to warrant speccing into phys dmg nodes, such as Unearthed Arms?

[surreal verge]

Oka golem is a bit... weirder

Unearthed gives flat damage anyway

(Flat damage is already added regardless of damage type)

The minion melee physical flat even helps normal wraiths

[viscid spruce]

I only have fire wraiths

[surreal verge]

Then it won't since flame wraith is casting.

But ye, might be worth? Test out and see

But since you're not going physical focus it may not be good enough

[viscid spruce]

Perhaps the 5 outta BotF into Unearthed, I guess.

[surreal verge]

It's a test and find out

[viscid spruce]

Is there some kinda test dummy or dps target? I have trouble just going out into groups of monsters and being like "yep, looks good" or not lol..

I moreso just go "Yepp.. they all died very quickly" LOL

[surreal verge]

Do you have Arena keys? The Arena lobby has training dummies on the left.

(Always test on the very left dummy)

[viscid spruce]

I have a few keys of different types, I shall see tonight I guess.

[surreal verge]

Going to the lobby doesn't spend the key btw, it's just easy access.

[viscid spruce]

I had taken BotF in the first place because I took all crit chance nodes

Assumed the crit multi was very good

[surreal verge]

It's ehhh

It's not TERRIBLE, but there's probably better nodes

[candid elm]

It's located by Champion's Gate. It's in the Divine Era on the west side of Heoborea.

A key is not needed for the dummies, but if you've got an Arena Key, you can put it in your inventory and Right-click it for the map to zoom directly there.

[viscid spruce]

Awesome, ty.

[viscid spruce]

Btw, was there something you'd change there?

[surreal verge]

No I meant the damage type thing:
FIre golem gets their basic attack converted to fire, but not their slam

[viscid spruce]

Ah, okay.

[surreal verge]

So the slam still does physical damage

No I don't know why it's like this.

[viscid spruce]

Things die very quickly atm. But it's still hilarious watching golem run across the screen and absolutely slam an enemy into the next dimension.

Intended or bug, I'd be interested to know why it doesn't convert.

I would think it should, so you can live that full fire golem dream 😛

[surreal verge]

Well at least for generic affixing minion builds are easy since the common minion damage affix covers all damage types.

[viscid spruce]

Is Twinned Golems worth it? Or does the multiplicative -damage make it equal to less in the end?

[surreal verge]

It depends on what you're looking for.

as an example:

They do not share fire auras, and will stack their own.

(Which can be terrible for builds that want a high damage fire aura)

[viscid spruce]

I am too new to know what I'm looking for tbh 😆

[surreal verge]

If you're just asking the golem to slam into things and do damage, it might be worth

Once again, fuck around and find out

(2 golems DO mean double the proc chances)

[viscid spruce]

I think all my other minions are most of my damage? But I'm unsure if that changes on bosses.

[glacial shell]

maybe I'm blind but I'm not seeing where dread shade gives me armor, only my minions

[candid elm]

There was a new boot affix added in 0.9.2 that you can get on Experimental Items from the Rune Prison mages that gives you # minions teleport with you when you use a traversal skill. Makes Golem feel better while going through echoes.

[surreal verge]

Shit ninjaed

[surreal verge]

My bet the order is:
Wraiths>Mage>=Golem>skeleton, but your mileage may vary

[viscid spruce]

Having a minion traversal skill (basically) would be great, but my build is full lazymancer lol. I only click Dread Shade every 40s and nothing else basically.

[glacial shell]

ah although that tethers me to the aura

[viscid spruce]

Hmm?

[surreal verge]

If you put the shade on a ranged minion you can stand back and just benefit from it.

[viscid spruce]

Oh, like your actual character.

[candid elm]

Not even A to command the minions?

[glacial shell]

i mean i have to stand next to whoever i cast this on

[viscid spruce]

Oh, well true. I have it on mouse though so it's basically the same as me clicking for myself 😛

[viscid spruce]

Yeah like Kzb said, I just put mine on a ranged minion where I am near them anyway.

[surreal verge]

You can do some.. intresting things with that node in dreadshade

[viscid spruce]

And on a ranged minion means all but my golem benefit too. Although even he does in some cases.

[glacial shell]

fine, i'll stand in the aoe with my morons xD let's see how that goes

[versed pecan]

hey i have a quick question is there a way to change mastery?

[viscid spruce]

I was hard against Dread Shade too, but it's really nuts honestly.

[surreal verge]

No, as the mastery pick window warns you.

[viscid spruce]

Plus the node to make dread shade not decay your minion is the only reason I ended up going with it..

[glacial shell]

i mean, i just dont want it. if i wanted to be forced into very specific builds I'd play diablo3

[surreal verge]

It's also basically the best node.

[viscid spruce]

I feel ya, don't worry.

[versed pecan]

oh ok i was to excited to play i guess i missed that

[surreal verge]

You cut down on upkeep, and don't have to worry about the drain, or having multiple shades to kee track off

Since it also doubles the duration

[viscid spruce]

Just an extra reason to level up another character 😄

[surreal verge]

Every minion build runs dreadshade, but whatelse they do vary pretty wildly

[versed pecan]

yea

[surreal verge]

It's only a must have becuase it's SO SO good.

It's their strongest buff

[viscid spruce]

The 3pts in Flesh Harvest feel wasted since my minions are almost always full health, unless they're not in which case they are 0 health and dead lmao..

[glacial shell]

well i dont have any necrotic damage

so it seemed ass for me

[viscid spruce]

It's 60% dmg and 24% attack/cast speed. The necrotic damage doesn't matter.

[surreal verge]

Oops. But it's helpful on golems

It gives FLAT damage, so anything and every thing will benefit from it.

SO it's at least +15 (necrotic) damage.

[glacial shell]

yea but i have no multipliers for necrotic

[surreal verge]

+10 and another 50%

Flat damage is always good.

Suddenly your skeletons auto attack go from 50 to 65 min as an example.

[glacial shell]

i dunno. it's hard to see who does how much damage when there's 20 guys

[surreal verge]

But honestly yeah the cast speed and attack speed are also godlike nodes.

[surreal verge]

That just means about 300 extra damage at least

Asusmign they're all in aura.

Also this funny node grants +% all damage

[glacial shell]

well like i said, my problem wasnt the damage. it's getting one shot by huge aoe blobs of damage that i didnt evade

[surreal verge]

Yeahhh

[viscid spruce]

Even the +15 goes to +22.5 with the 50% boost, if I calculate correctly.

[surreal verge]

This is why I prefaced "It helps with damage, but not much on defense, but if they die faster you would technically be taking less hits"

[glacial shell]

but maybe I'd just be better off going with a different damage type now that I'm chaging it anyway

well if i dont die instantly i never die

i have an axe that heals me for 50 when my guys punch something

[surreal verge]

Minions builds have this weird thing where the damage type doesn't matter sometimes.

Oh you're using that unique

[viscid spruce]

Seems like 20 vit is a rather low/easily obtainable amount, which is 500 armor with dread shade, jeeze..

[glacial shell]

well i have 2 weapons that do stuff for minions. one i found at level 10 (unique wand) and the other one is that axe

but +2 to everything seems good

[surreal verge]

Yeah it's good as a generic unique

[glacial shell]

also it has potential

allegedly

and before i knew what that did i shattered a great exalted item xD

now i cant find one to fuse

[surreal verge]

Small issue:2H axes don't really have affixes that would hugly benefit minion builds

All the affixes are useless for miniion builds

[viscid spruce]

Funny how "going fire" means only 32% more than necrotic increased...

[glacial shell]

it has minion phys damage, DOT minion, minon spell damage and minion melee damage as suffix on 2h axes

[viscid spruce]

That +15 dread shade with the +10 from passives turns into +87.5, kinda crazy.

[surreal verge]

Here's the funny part:Because of how the nodes of wraith are setup, going flame wraiths means you're actuall doing 50/50 necrotic and fire damage

[surreal verge]

Yeah, that's kinda about it.

It's not terrible, but that means 2lp is technically all you need

While something like a scepter can use all 4

[glacial shell]

i'll worry about that if/when i get one

[surreal verge]

👍

[viscid spruce]

Yeah, not a huge fan of the +necrotic basically being the only path to flame wraiths..

[glacial shell]

so far i have barely found any good weapons for this guy.

[surreal verge]

But it DOES turn them into ranged minions instead of melee, which has less AI issues

Also logi's hunger.

[viscid spruce]

Was anyone able to help answer this, btw?

[surreal verge]

No clue tbh

FUnny amulet for fire minion builds.

[viscid spruce]

I'm trying to make my own loot filter so seeing something like that is puzzling to me.

[viscid spruce]

Do the first 3 mods work for minions, or is it only for the last 2 mods?

[toxic anvil]

Uniques you kind of just have to know about

Last 2

[surreal verge]

First 3 is only you, last 2 are only minions

[viscid spruce]

Is that +2-3% base crit?

[surreal verge]

But it's FLAT crit chance.

Yes.

[toxic anvil]

For fire yah

[surreal verge]

And it's ALL minions

[viscid spruce]

Perhaps I'm missing it, but where do you see base crit in-game?

[surreal verge]

It's not even locked to fire minions

You don't

[toxic anvil]

So what if a skill does partial fire dmg?

[viscid spruce]

Oh..

[surreal verge]

If it has the fire tag it counts.

If you're talking about the 1st affix

The minion crit chance just says minion

[toxic anvil]

Yeah 1st

So needs to have tag?

[surreal verge]

(All skills have a base crit of 5%)

[viscid spruce]

Where do I see base crit outside of the game than lol.. on Summon Skeletal Mage for example.

[toxic anvil]

So I can’t just +fire dmg lmao

[surreal verge]

Ye

[toxic anvil]

Spells and attacks have a base of 5?

[viscid spruce]

"All skills" includes minions?

[surreal verge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/minions/skeleton_mage

All.

Exlcuding certain subskills and ShadowCascade, it's 5% without any boosts.

you can search up LEtools

[viscid spruce]

I think my mages get 60% crit atm?

5 base + 15 flat * 100% * 50%

[toxic anvil]

Order of operations boiiii

😂

[surreal verge]

Why two multipliers? Increases are all addictive

[viscid spruce]

So just 150%?

[surreal verge]

Ye

[toxic anvil]

20 * 150%

[surreal verge]

That's 50%

[toxic anvil]

So 50

[viscid spruce]

Only 30%, oof.

Nope.

I'm high.

[toxic anvil]

You said 150% increased crit?

[surreal verge]

HAHAHAHA

[viscid spruce]

We're good.

[toxic anvil]

Or 150% total lmao

[viscid spruce]

I got there in the end.

[surreal verge]

It's fine

[toxic anvil]

Math lmao it’s hard for all of us

[surreal verge]

[viscid spruce]

There's 15% base from skill. 100% inc from passives, and another 50% inc from passives.

[toxic anvil]

I hate crit so much I play only non crit builds 😂

[surreal verge]

Yeah the inc are added together

[viscid spruce]

ye, I knew that, but then just did the math wrong. ez pz.

[surreal verge]

Kekw

[toxic anvil]

Wait another 15%?

[surreal verge]

no he meant (5+15)

[toxic anvil]

Ah

[viscid spruce]

5% base, +15% base from skill, ye

[surreal verge]

Yeah that's 50%

That's not bad.

[toxic anvil]

Ahhh ok

For what skill?

[surreal verge]

Skele mages

[toxic anvil]

Also I had no idea sigils could give you +15% block chance 🤣

Ah ok

[surreal verge]

Sigils is a funny skill overall

[viscid spruce]

skeletons only get 18% crit really..

5 base, 260 inc

[surreal verge]

+3% base makes it..28% ish

[viscid spruce]

ye, I was counting without amulet atm

Wraith is 35% I think.. I believe the two bottom-left nodes are base crit

+3 and +6

[surreal verge]

Yeah that's base

[viscid spruce]

just cause im a spreadsheet nerd

(which doesnt help my case with getting the math wrong earlier..)

[surreal verge]

Hey, if it works it works

[viscid spruce]

Some sizable increases to crit chance tbh from that amulet

Not to mention that +2 skills is nuts.

[surreal verge]

there's a reason it's pretty meta

it's also not terribly hard to get since it's a boss drop.

[viscid spruce]

I haven't even gotten to boss stuff yet lmao..

Was theorying out my build and now wanting to finish my own loot filter.

It's like Path of Building all over again lol

Is there a way to search letools for a specific affix? ie I want to see all items with "Minion Critical Strike Chance".

[surreal verge]

Just type it in the search bar

I know a few people that missed the search bar

[viscid spruce]

Hollow Finger, jeeze..

[surreal verge]

Oh , on the topic of hollow finger:
Do you know with some setup you can get 12 normal skeletons?

[viscid spruce]

I'm fairly certain my cap is 8, how the heck do you get +4 lol

[glacial shell]

i found a ring that said it would summon a tree, but if that's a tree, I'm the queen of england >.>

[surreal verge]

God knows why they call it a tree when it's a dummy, but you know

[glacial shell]

it behaved like a tree though

[viscid spruce]

Searching "Maximum Skeleton" I only see hollow finger lol

[surreal verge]

3 base +1 necro mastery+3 skeleton spec +2 necromancer passive +2 hollow finger +1 chest max skeleton affix

[glacial shell]

there's a regular affix that gives + skeleton

[surreal verge]

It's a rare affix, but ye

[viscid spruce]

Oh, I had that suffix collapsed in my search..

I'm just insane today. Math, clicking. Doing all around great.

[surreal verge]

It's a stupid setup, but it works

(Gives +3 golems with aaron's will)

[glacial shell]

i actually have that armor but i stashed it. didnt want to spec in a skill i couldnt use anymore. just feels wrong >.>

[viscid spruce]

I must have 9 skellies than, not 8.

Cause I have all max nodes, but not the ring/armor obv

[surreal verge]

Yeah you should in theory have 9

[glacial shell]

i dont have that ring and i have 9 so you can too

[viscid spruce]

Remote connection from work laggy af but good enough to summon some skellies in town so let's see lol

Ah, I don't have Tyrant's Legion yet. So yep, 8 atm.

Once I get that I think it's:
9 Skeletons
5 Mages
2 Wraiths
1 Golem

17 total

[toxic anvil]

What about beeeeez 😂

[glacial shell]

5 mages, 9 skellies, 8 wraiths, 2 golems, 3 vanguard, 1 revenant and 1 tree >.> that's 29 friends

[surreal verge]

Acolytes don't have access to bees LOL

[viscid spruce]

🐿️

[glacial shell]

i think i'll have to let the tree go though

[viscid spruce]

I want to find that helmet to play squirrels.

[glacial shell]

oh also i had boots that made vines. they counted as minions but they really did nothing

[surreal verge]

The boots have two funny intractions:
temporary armour with that one necro node.
Apogee.

[glacial shell]

yea, that is what i used them for. the armor anyway

maybe i should go back to one big golem to anchor the shade on

[viscid spruce]

Considering the highest base armor has 179 armor, I guess 272 armor from Empty the Graves and like ~500 from Dread Shade is kinda insane.

[glacial shell]

i think i need an RTS control scheme

[surreal verge]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/

Have fun with the calculations

[toxic anvil]

why is the elemental damage over time affix available at a higher t5 range than the fire dot affix?

[swift star]

in the monolith, if I do an echo and die (so I don't get the guaranteed reward at the end), can I just redo the Echo and get the reward if I don't die that time?

or is it a single death locks that reward forever?

[viscid spruce]

How do you make an item rare on letools to be able to add four affixes?

[surreal verge]

No. A death loses you out on the node reward forever

[glacial shell]

i got the reward if i died after qualifying

probably a bug tho

[surreal verge]

Item rarity is determined by amount of affixes.

SO just add them

All normal items have 4 slots.

[viscid spruce]

It removes the other

[surreal verge]

Pick the 2nd tab.

There's two tabs for each, 2 prefix and 2 sufix

[viscid spruce]

Oh. Prefix 1 is all same group, Prefix 2 is all same group, etc?

[surreal verge]

Ye

[viscid spruce]

And you can only have one from each group I guess

[surreal verge]

Yup

[surreal verge]

We don't know. If it's a bug it hasen't been fixed for a while.

[viscid spruce]

Oh, not necessarily groups like I was thinking, but moreso "heres your first prefix and heres your second".

[surreal verge]

Yuppp

[swift star]

are unique items that you might need for end game builds gotten as rewards for this? like can I lock myself out of an end game build this way?

[glacial shell]

i mean, it felt like i didnt deserve it :D

[surreal verge]

No, since they're random uniques. Just find another unique item node.

Exlcuiding two unqiues (Side quest rewards), everything else is farmable

[glacial shell]

maybe i should take "spectral distance" for shade? i just put it on my fat golem and otherwise i mostly make ranged boys?

[surreal verge]

It also doubles the 'aura' so it might not work as well, tho you should test and figure it out

(Do you know the meta flame wraith builds use that node along with an undecaying and stationary abom to turn it into a dread shade totem?)

[glacial shell]

yea that was kinda my idea, except i dont have the abom. i didnt want something that eats my minions :D i wanted to have more, not less guys

[surreal verge]

Nah that abom eats no minions and just let it stay in the corner of a map.

(With the condition that you have a low count of max skeletons)

[glacial shell]

that build lost me at low count

my goal is to outnumber the enemies

[surreal verge]

Yeah, it just works for flame wratihs since they don't care about not having skeletons

[glacial shell]

how good is hungering souls for the DKs?

[surreal verge]

Seems okay, did not do much testing on my side

[glacial shell]

well i already respecced everything might as well <.<

[swift star]

I thought you could redo echos? I went back into the monolith, the one I just did has a checkmark in it, and I can't redo it

[glacial shell]

yea you can redo it forever

[surreal verge]

No you can't.

[glacial shell]

and when you run out of map you just get a new one

[surreal verge]

You can 'retry' ones that you died on.

But there is a special node that resets the 'done' status on your nodes.

[swift star]

so if I die, I can retry, but the stuff listed under "Echo Rewards" won't be available because I died once... then once I stabilize this whole map and do the quest thingy... then I just choose a new map to do?

[viscid spruce]

Does int double dip to increase minion dmg? https://www.lastepochtools.com/minions/skeleton_mage says minion gets 4% inc dmg per int, but then it's skill also says 4% inc dmg per int

[surreal verge]

No.

[surreal verge]

The quest echoes do not reset an monolith, the shade bosses do, the ones that increase corruption,

[glacial shell]

when you get to the edges you will find nodes that reroll the map

[swift star]

can you reroll without fighting the shade boss so that corruption doesn't increasae?

[surreal verge]

Nope

(Don't farm in normal monoliths)

Go unlock empowered monoliths instead.

[swift star]

only lvl 59... just concerned about making the game too difficult for me to do

[surreal verge]

Ahh

You'll most likely clear the quest echo way before being forced to reroll

(also most decent builds can clear base empowered at lv 80+)

[swift star]

but I am not a decent player 😄

[surreal verge]

If you REALLY need to reset a normal map, it might be time for you to move on tbh, since it is quite a lot of nodes.

[swift star]

like, move on to a different game?

it just sounds liike I could potentially complete some echoes, without getting any upgrades, and make the game more difficult without making my character more capable

[surreal verge]

The monolith web is... very big.

Like, 100 nodes or more big.

You'll be hard pressed to find all the deadends.

[glacial shell]

did you skip a lot of stuff? I just went through the entire game in the last few days and by the time i cleared all the regular monoliths i was about 80

[surreal verge]

Normal monoliths also have a 50 corruption cap, where empowered starts you at 100.

So even if you were forced to get corruption there's a hard cap.

And if you can't clear 50 corruption then your build might have an actual issue.

[swift star]

gotcha, so there is a limit to the difficulty scaling on a normal, it won't just get forever hard

[surreal verge]

Yup

It's also the reason most people just say "DOn't farm normal, get empowered asap and farm there instead"

[swift star]

I appreciate all the explanations

[glacial shell]

you cant really manage to get yourself stuck. worst case you have to look for gear in a different area first

[misty helm]

am I blind to an option to filter out specific uniques or uniques without LP in the loot filter?

[balmy current]

Without LP? No (by design)

[misty helm]

what abou the specific uniques part

[balmy current]

You might be able to bodge together a hide rule for just uniques on the specific base with a specific affix or affixes?

No idea, never tried

[misty helm]

hrmm, but only affixes that will be in the filter are ones that could be on non-uniques. wouldnt work for all but maybe still worth me time

[swift star]

should i max out bonus stability in each echo area?

[sinful laurel]

No

[feral yarrow]

Any tips on Julra t3 boss fight?

[desert tree]

Try to dodge most of her attack

[icy drift]

What are you dying to?

[sinful laurel]

Nothing changes from t2, so do it the same as you did before

[feral yarrow]

Prolly skill issue

[icy drift]

It for sure is, but maybe we can still give some tips

[feral yarrow]

Having hard time timing D at a good time

What yall think is the best time to temporal shift

[icy drift]

You can just press it as soon as she starts the explosion if you want

[sinful laurel]

One thing I will say. Make sure you don't double tap or panic hit it

If you double jump it will kill you, you'll port right back into the aoe lol

[icy drift]

Just press it and wait for her to teleport to your timeline, and then dodge the puddle thing

If the puddle oneshots you then you can try cheesing her with the quick swap, but tbh I would just practice dodging the puddle or get tankier (if you dodge it properly it'll do 0 DMG)

[feral yarrow]

Alright noted thank you

[icy drift]

Since the cheese will most likely get fixed eventually

[sinful laurel]

Another thing I will say is don't get greedy with damage windows

[icy drift]

So you want to be able to beat her without it

[desert tree]

Are you able to not take dmg from the puddles ?

[sinful laurel]

Her big damage skills are meant to kill you.

[desert tree]

I always take a tick or 2

[sinful laurel]

Yeah if you time your traversal as it's hitting

You can 0 damage it

[feral yarrow]

Alright thank you, i got lots of keys to “practice” till i get it actually done lol

[sinful laurel]

Hard to do and depends on your server connection:)

[icy drift]

Yeah if you dash or teleport as it's dropping you can take 0 DMG

Pretty tight tbh but you can get it down eventually, it's not like you gotta do anything else while it's happening anyway

[sinful laurel]

But you should be able to take one tick

[icy drift]

Yeah

[humble bridge]

Hey guys has anyone reported a bug that won't let you enter any echo? I have been unable to play for 3 days. Upon trying to enter an echo it just says "loading echo" indefinitely until I alt f4.

[sinful laurel]

Verify integrity of steam files

[humble bridge]

I'll try that

[sinful laurel]

Works for most everyone. Issue with recent hotfix

[humble bridge]

ohhh okay I was unaware. Thanks a lot.

[humble bridge]

Thanks a lot, it worked.

[scarlet peak]

I keep getting the screen telling me to make sure steam is running to to migrate my account and i'm like, 'my brother in christ, i purchased AND launched you through Steam..." (Yes i've updated and migrated my account as it were.) I ran into this last night and was able to get in. Today it's just saying the same thing. 'ensure that steam is open and try again'

[sinful laurel]

Force restart steam

[scarlet peak]

yeah that did it.

started doing so right after i posted 😄 silly things

[sinful laurel]

Yup yup

[brittle crest]

So I'm getting the same issue, force restarted steam and it still is doing it. Going to try a reboot but I've not much hope

[icy drift]

Can always try to verify your files, fixes a lot of issues for this game

[brittle crest]

Will try if reboot doesn't fix, this is the first time I've had an issue and I've been playing since 0.6 off and on

[scarlet peak]

i did verify before restarting, fyi

[brittle crest]

That got it going, thank much

[viscid spruce]

You can filter out a specific item slot and/or a specific base, but not a specific unique.
Choose "Type" to filter on an item slot. Choose "Subtypes" to filter on a specific base.

[misty helm]

ty ty

[faint cape]

You can filter for many uniques specifically by filtering for their base type (and level requirement if multiple uniques share the base)

[amber void]

Merophage says it can gain or replace affixes when you shatter a 2-h sword, does that mean you can modify the item whenever you want?

[sinful laurel]

Yes

For better and for worse

[toxic echo]

definitely a double edged sword

[amber void]

mmm

[sinful laurel]

You run the risk of forgetting and shattering your inventory and accidentally replacing your good roll

Just don't forget to take it off

[amber void]

you also need to be lucky to get much affixes as you can

[sinful laurel]

Right but once you have it good, just don't forget to take it off before you shatter others

[viscid spruce]

Would anyone mind looking over my filter to see if there's anything glaringly obviously wrong? https://github.com/WolfieeifloW/lefilter/blob/main/Wolfie Filter.xml

I basically took every single guide from Maxroll, wrote out all the stats mentioned from every build for gear and idols. Then did some spreadsheet work to find which ones were most sought after/required for the builds. Then also used https://www.lastepochtools.com/loot-filters/view/3VBM4nQ7 to get a basic layout and input a mix of my own findings and his selected affixes.

If anyone is as nerdy as me and likes spreadsheet stuff feel free to geek out too: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1a3I3lPotyEQhk1Q6CvUzahzQ_yAh_e-_OsBJeuRwOIk/edit?usp=sharing

[dense ravine]

Actually Julra Explosion has countdown timer, the red highlight I think the best time to timing it

[sinful laurel]

Temporal sanctum indeed 😉

[toxic anvil]

Do 2 “more damage” nodes in the same skill tree stack multiplicatively with each other?

Also, any way to have the loot filter specify empty affix slots?

[sinful laurel]

yes

no (i think)

[toxic anvil]

Thanks man 🙂

[sinful laurel]

btw on this one, you can see it visually on the floor before you pick up the item

two dots on the left of the name are prefixes, two dots on the right are suffixes

[toxic anvil]

Ah got it, I just need specific things haha

Like any of 2 prefixes or empty prefixes and total affix level

[sinful laurel]

i mean you can do any 2 prefixes and total affix level iirc

i jsut dont think specifically empty affixes is an option

[balmy oriole]

what does this minion power stat mean?

[safe harness]

Not sure what power means exactly, but minions gain some stats based on your level, like health and damage

[wide sentinel]

hazelroot bm

[icy drift]

You could theoretically make this happen but it'd be pretty damn complicated since there isn't a rule specifically for this. You'd need to do a combination of individual and total affix tier rules for all the items to show all the combinations you want to see and still hide the ones you don't want to see. You might honestly hit the rule cap.

Tldr: yesn't

[wide sentinel]

i hit rule cap on my 2 filters

since i put like 8+ builds on 1 fliter

[toxic anvil]

no way to increase the duration of skills with a duration right?

[sinful laurel]

nope

sadly

i hope that affix gets introduced someday

[toxic anvil]

ah yeah same

[lofty mirage]

so what does weaver's will mean? i dont think its in the ingame guide

[sinful laurel]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/resources/weavers-will-uniques

[lofty mirage]

so tldr when you kill mobs it rolls random affixes from the base item's affix pool?

[sinful laurel]

yup, and it can either add a new affix or upgrade an existing

basically, a new way to get a "legendary"

[lofty mirage]

and every tier upgrade subtracts 1 from the will?

[sinful laurel]

yup

[lofty mirage]

ty ty

imma try levelling it up to see what i get

i was intending on replacing my relic anyway

[sinful laurel]

i got a 23 swaddling yesterday, was super excited. it rolled like the worst combo of mods

fy,i, getting above 20 is quite rare

[lofty mirage]

i see, i guess mine was mid then

first upgrade, unfortunate

i guess it still has a melee damage roll tho

[sinful laurel]

if your not using LM, yeah unfortunate haha

[lofty mirage]

🥲

its dodging every skill im using

[toxic anvil]

does total affix tiers on a filter only count the tiers of the selected affixes or the whole item?

or does tier of individual affixes do that and not for each affix?

[sinful laurel]

wdym? total affix tiers is the total of the tiers of affixes on the item?

seems pretty self explanatory 🙂

[faint cape]

It's only of the selected affixes

[sinful laurel]

oh you mean filter dont you? im a dingus

[zealous tusk]

Does inc. Minion melee atk speed affects totem?

[sinful laurel]

depends on the totem, according to their tags

some totems attack with melee attacks

some dont

[zealous tusk]

Im using thorn

[sinful laurel]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/minions/thorn_totem google is your friend

[zealous tusk]

I am really confused, it says physical and does not have melee tag on it.

[sinful laurel]

The attack it uses scales with cast speed. See?

[zealous tusk]

That im not sure im new in this game. Still confused about tags.

Because i got this item says minion inc. Melee atk spd

[sinful laurel]

if the skill taht the totem uses is a spell and scales with cast speed, then attack speed wont do anything

attack speed scales skills that scale with attack speed

melee attack speed specifically scales things that are attack skills and have the melee tag

mystic thorns has the physical and spell tags, neither of which are melee or attack tags

[zealous tusk]

Ahh I see. So it will only affect minions like wolf, etc.

Thanks!

[sinful laurel]

it will affect any minion that uses a melee attack

[zealous tusk]

Okay thank you.

[desert tree]

Claw totem is a melee totem that scales with AS

[toxic anvil]

do we get reduced xp if we're in a zone wayyy above our level?

[buoyant sinew]

if monsters are >10 levels above your own level, you gain xp as if they were exactly 10 levels above you

[desert tree]

5 if you are in a party iirc

[zealous tusk]

Im playing thorn totem as druid, but i keep seeing they taking shaman as mastery. Can someone tell me whats better?

[desert tree]

I believe Shaman has more Dmg but Druid more Tankiness

[lofty mirage]

Besides rogue, which classe/skill setups have easy campaign levelling ?

[zealous tusk]

Try the primalist

Using thorn totem

[odd bolt]

Guys How to be a content creator here ?

[desert tree]

Thats just for hit right ?

[lofty mirage]

aight ill check it out, wanting to try swarmblade anywy

[crude jewel]

whats the equivalent in %? how much more +% would that be?

[desert tree]

Thats flat dmg

[crude jewel]

i know i wanna have an equivalant

for example what brings me more dmg in total; +18 flat or +100% dmg?

[desert tree]

Well there is none because it depends on what skill you use and their Dmg Effectiviness etc

Most likely +18 flat

[lofty mirage]

im pretty sure the calculation would be different depending on what build youre actualy using

[desert tree]

Or if its 100% More Dmg and not Increased Dmg

[crude jewel]

i see and you cant generalize it ~ like all above 200% or all above +300% would be in general more then the 18+ flat?

[crude jewel]

i see, well atm i am only try to figure +% out not increased

so i get a feeling for it

thats why i am asking

[desert tree]

Flat dmg being multiplied by your skill Added Dmg Effectiveness then all your multipliers is often the best stat

[crude jewel]

mhm

[desert tree]

If you play a fire melee build you should probably use Hakar's Phoenix

With all the Flat and the Fire pen on it, its pretty good

[crude jewel]

i am still waiting for that character-stats-page update we were promised... so in general you cant say +18 flat dmg is more then f.e. 1000% because it depends, and so i only can - if i have no stats f.e. for minions on that - equip it, pull out the preferd minion and test it on an dummy?

i try an scuffed minion only build and not atk at all ^^

[desert tree]

1st Good luck

[crude jewel]

i know ^^

[desert tree]

2 I am not sure what to advise you on that ^^

[crude jewel]

but the + flat dmg i have still i starte the game problems to figure in whatever build if it brings me more then a +% /increased % item

[desert tree]

Do you have a planner on what you are trying to do ?

Inc Minion Dmg is pretty common to find

But Flat Melee Dmg for your minions is quite rare

There is some in passive BM tree(phys iirc), Yulia Boots (necrotic)

[crude jewel]

yes and no, but you helped already much :) ... the question atm i have is rly only "is that 18+ flat dmg worth against +9 strength, since strength scales for minions on beastmaster

or another weapon that has 77% increased dmg

if i figure the math behind that out, i should then understand the rest of my questions, you know what i mean?

[crude jewel]

the passive i have already in, so much i did understand that flat +dmg is mostly better then % or increased (mostly)

[desert tree]

You need some Increase , and as many More Dmg as possible.
But Increase is pretty common, that's why I advise you to get the Flat

And be careful, sometimes Inc Minion Dmg can be Melee, Spell, Dot or physical and not everything will scale that Flat Fire or Flat Necrotic from Yulia's

[crude jewel]

i know iam focus on melee/physical and overall min dmg

[desert tree]

Increased Minion Dmg can be found on ring, amu, gloves, relic, off hand

Min ?

[crude jewel]

minion

well i guess i need to go on a dummy then and look at the numbers :/

[desert tree]

Yep

This is the way

[crude jewel]

??? how come i make the same amount of dmg (~600-800) with a minion on target dummy without ALL items and with all them equipt?

[lofty mirage]

does the game have a memory leak problem? feels like my fps always gets worse and worse the longer i play and i have to restart

[surreal verge]

What minions? If it's totems they kinda snapshot.

[desert tree]

Snapshotting, you need to re summon everything

[crude jewel]

i tested it with sabertooth

[desert tree]

Yes

[surreal verge]

Did you witness the sabertooth resummon itself?

[crude jewel]

oh god damn ok

so everytime i equip i resummon? -.-

[desert tree]

Yep

[crude jewel]

all again -.-

[desert tree]

Skill tree change will refresh the companion, but not gear change

[crude jewel]

and i was wondering "oh wow all those 3 weapons are the same, interesting" LUL

[balmy oriole]

does manifest armor get the unique effects on items like the bleed pen from salt the wound?

[desert tree]

Some uniques work

I am not sure about Salt the Wound

[crude jewel]

if i would want to calculate a dps, how much atk-hits data would i need for it? 20 hits? 50 hits? more?

nvm i dont know the speed of the attacks of minions ^^

[desert tree]

You can check it on letools

https://www.lastepochtools.com/minions/

[crude jewel]

oh there are stats for minions?! kk ill check

ty <3

[faint cape]

Every skill has a base 'use rate', minions also often have some additional stats with pretty dramatic effects, bee minion for example:

[crude jewel]

the higher the attack rate the faster? so attack rate value is not seconds?

i try to find out the seconds of that rate

[olive flame]

Hello all. I have a question: My thorn totem, stacking on dummy ~12 stacks of armor shred. When i placing idol with +29 cast speed for totems, stacks decrese to ~8. Im missing something, or it slows attack speed of totems some how? o_O

[cedar locust]

Are you removing an Idol that can affect Armor Shred?

[olive flame]

I dont have idols with armor shred, only talent 100%

Same situation whrn i spaming totems, with out idol i have ~100 stacks, with idol it ~66

Is there some hidden animation treshold like dialo 2? (frame animations)

[cedar locust]

I'm wondering that myself (Totems aren't something I know a lot about), are you now casting 'too fast'?

If no-one in #🐺┃primalist knows then Mike might know in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs ! I'll do some searching too!

[cedar locust]

Are you potentially casting faster than the animation spawns in Totems?

[graceful wraith]

does anybody know what this icon is? I can't see it of any of my skills or items.. I am mainly a druid and it appears in combat in the upper left next to my bear buddy

[cedar locust]

Pummel and Bash node!

[olive flame]

I replace idol with +cast speed for totems, and +crit chance for minions. So my character cast speed is same.

[polar holly]

if i have 150% res, does that mean i am immune to the 75% penetration from lvl 100 mobs?

[toxic echo]

no

for purposes of your res defense...the calc stops at 75%. no matter how much you have. best you can do is break even.

[cedar locust]

Oh cast speed FOR totems - which Idol is is?

[graceful wraith]

thanks! is that the name of the node? because I can't find anything with Pummel and Bash, or just Pummel or just bash

[cedar locust]

Its a node in the Werebear Form Tree 🙂

[icy drift]

@desert tree almost sure the answer is no to your question in the dev channel

[graceful wraith]

Great! thanks, I was searching from the main thing and it didn't highlight werebear form! odd, thanks a lot again!

[cedar locust]

LE Tools is super helpful when searching for node related stuff!

[graceful wraith]

odd thing is. I don't have any points in it.

[cedar locust]

I'm not seeing anything stand out as to why you'd lose Armor shred stacks by increasing totem cast speed, sorry 😣

#🐺┃primalist or #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs might be your best place to get an answer!

[toxic echo]

claw totem from swipe? @graceful wraith

[surreal verge]

No.

[toxic echo]

since its up with your minions and not a buff

[surreal verge]

The 75% pen is done AFTER your resistances are capped.

[faint cape]

That icon is a Claw Totem

[olive flame]

Ok, i will ask devs, if no one can help in primalist node, thanks a lot )

[graceful wraith]

Great, that sounds more plausable! thanks!

[cedar locust]

Ah! I was going off the LE Tools Icons - which has Pummel and Bash for that Icon - lesson learned! xD

[faint cape]

Heh yeah, a lot of the icons are reused in a number of places

[cedar locust]

There it is -

[graceful wraith]

all good! and it's hidden too.. need to go to swipe, hover over claws of stone skill. and then hit alt..

[cedar locust]

Sneaky node lol

[odd bolt]

Guys is there a bug or smth when you play lich?

im watching top 1 ladder

2330

top 4 is 1195

is that possible?

[desert tree]

😢

[icy drift]

Usually the only things that work with over 100% are ailment applications

Which is really nice for spark charges since they're technically an ailment 😛

[native sail]

They're playing an exceptionally bugged out build that is literally immortal

[odd bolt]

ohhh

I understand now

only with lich?

[native sail]

Yeah, it relies on a specific unintended interaction they have with some of the experimental affixes and the Volatile Zombies skill. Pretty sure they go Lich because it also allows them to have stupid amounts of damage.

[odd bolt]

I hope they fix that then

[native sail]

It will be dealt with at 1.0
They've already gotten a lot of feedback that their choice to leave it alone for several months was a bad one though

(I personally agree it was a bad decision)

[odd bolt]

true

[crude jewel]

why do i lose/gain 8% poison resistance if i unequip/equip that? am i blind or is that some bug?! ^^

[lunar holly]

vitality gives you 1% necrotic and poison res

[crude jewel]

OH

didnt know thanks a lot!

[lunar holly]

it's since 0.9.2 , it used to only give hp

[crude jewel]

i see

[sinful laurel]

Nah it used to give hp and hp regen. I miss that 😦

[crude jewel]

how can i test regeneration of hp, like with a dummy its not possible it doesnt atk... i wanna test difference between: harthenons vow "5 health gained on companion hit" and "11.6% of minion melee damage leeching as health" what would be from a 2000 dmg hit 232 health and i dont see any difference at all (i resummoned this time the minions ^^)

[toxic echo]

Go into a lower level monolith. And just let some trash mobs beat on ya a bit

[crude jewel]

then i cant see if it runs faster cause the minions would need to constantly hit something

higher mobs are not the problem, its that i dont see any difference, i see a difference if i put hharthenons on and not on but i dont see a difference if i have the leech stat on me

i think that affix is broken, atm iam google after comments about it

or maybe the text is wrong and its not that i get health and only the minion and/or all companions of beastmaster dont count as minion?! but it should? no clue atm

[void stream]

Hello! I am new to the game, I have been using this amazing unique since like level 10. I am almost levle 50 and I really want to upgrade it. Is there any way or am I going to have to replace it? Thanks 😄

[desert tree]

Minion leech is for minion

Not for you

[surreal verge]

The text is using the generic leech text. Oops.

[surreal verge]

1.https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/legendary_items

[crude jewel]

ok i found atm 2 forum post that says the same as you guys leeching minion is for minions so that text is wrong then

thats a bummer

[desert tree]

It's not wrong

It tells you how leech work

If you deal dmg you get some hp back

[crude jewel]

i thought EVERY text under the affix explain THAT affix not globaly

[desert tree]

It does not say if your minions deal dmg you get hp

[crude jewel]

?

[desert tree]

It could be changed for sure

[crude jewel]

it does?

ooohhhhhh

[desert tree]

It does not

[crude jewel]

now i see what you mean omg i didnt read the your

-.-

my bad ty

[desert tree]

It's because you are not your minions, and your minions are not you

[crude jewel]

yea that i know ^^ i rly thought i read it otherwise

so harthenons vow is the only item plus the necro Usurper's Mandate that gives you health from minion/companion hits mhm

damn it back to the dummy testing oO

[desert tree]

Yes but there other way you could heal yourself and buff your minions