❔┃ask-the-community

[pine trail]

Yeah but it doesn't last that long

[sinful laurel]

This may just be my outside opinion here, but it seems like you are probably focusing a lot on damage and not enough on defenses

[pine trail]

Could be, I'm checking my gear now

[sinful laurel]

At level 24 with no twink stuff. Don't worry as much about gear. Focus on your passives and skills first and then supplement with we'll crafted rares

[icy drift]

Flame ward can legit carry you by itself to like 300 corruption+

Obviously with a side of game knowledge but yeah flame ward is a super big defensive layer, to the point where I'd say it's a must have unless you're a giga high ward build that gets like 20k+ ward

Or have crazy armour or something

[sinful laurel]

Spec into the double cast, ward gen and damage reductions and you're golden

[wind blaze]

Here quests kind of unbugged but it still drops me back to end of time era

[pine trail]

So on the filter, the one above takes presedence, correct?

[sinful laurel]

Correct

[pine trail]

Might put a filter for just health regen only

I got my health regen uo a bit, so hoping that helps

[sinful laurel]

Like I said, passive Regen won't save you unless you go HARD on it, and you just can't where you are at

And you don't want to as a sorc anyways

Regen is not a reasonable defensive layer for you

[pine trail]

Whats good caster class beginning to end thats not overly complex?

[sinful laurel]

Lich

Sorc

RM

Druid in some flavors pretty sure

Even paladin/vk

[pine trail]

Well I've gone by all the guides out there, as close as possible being as most are end game.......but I can't figure out were I went wrong

[marsh maple]

uhhhh

so

I have a few

that arent overtly complex

do you mean to like

play

or the concept of the build

because those are 2 different things @pine trail

https://youtu.be/VroXiizRkgU

this isn't too complicated

if you understand how spark charges work

https://youtu.be/ea-Mit5W334

heres one if you want complete brain dead

but it has a unique buy in

Perry has a few as well

oh actually

https://youtu.be/oFyT9ovcpYc this one is pretty brain dead too

[hollow elk]

Hi, anybody knows how to open doors like this one?

[wide sentinel]

u cant its edge of the map

[hollow elk]

so why they are highlighted? there were enemies, which I killed through the wall, and the money is lying there (a bit farther)

Looks like this

[wide sentinel]

cause its bugged texture

[hollow elk]

oh, ok, thank you 🙂

[steel merlin]

theres a disconnect between the map and the areas where you can go, at least since some areas redesigns

[loud tusk]

Hi, can tell me what these stripes in the blessings mean? I couldn't find any info in the game.

[icy drift]

It's how well your roll for that blessing is

Full circle = perfect roll

Empty = minimum roll

[loud tusk]

thx you :3

[icy drift]

np

[scenic sparrow]

anybody has some working guide for this ???
-it slaps,
-consumes way too much mana
-relatively low Area of Effect for its costs

[wide sentinel]

this is nothing more than high LP base cause has fire penetration. As for judgement itself going hit version is a meme, while Aura dot version is really strong

[marsh maple]

https://youtu.be/ckZixCVOlrA you are insanely lucky

[wide sentinel]

[marsh maple]

I actually have a judgement setup that is waiting for a video

that isnt a pain in the ass to play

[scenic sparrow]

well, thats not what i have in mind, i dont wanna bosser but universaly good paladin that can clear maps aswell

[marsh maple]

well

pay attention for the next few days

probably tomorrow

[scenic sparrow]

i am using attunement and the gloves for AoE and damage... but when i think about it, its useless ...damn...i think ive got baited 😄

[glossy quartz]

can i change mastery class or i need make a new character?

[sinful laurel]

new char

[glossy quartz]

thanks

[icy drift]

btw i'm pretty sure there is actually a dummy that's considered a "boss", it's like the middle top one that's alone or something, i don't remember. It doesn't have a tag or anything like the far left one

i might also just be completely wrong but i think it's correct

[marsh maple]

yeah there is

its sucks though

imo

[icy drift]

yeah, was just watching the video and you were talking about your dummy damage and it not applying the 80% more dmg to boss node

[marsh maple]

its hard

because it applies like

the boss damage reduction

that is natural for a 100 zone

so its hard to like, translate that back to dummy damage

so its easier to just calculate the number yourself based on the dummy damage

[icy drift]

yeah fair

[pine trail]

@marsh mapleBasically I wanna play a lightning cast build, problem is I am so squishy I die way to easy. Most of the build guides you see are end game, so it's hard to find a build guide that goes from beginning to say 70ish step by step with skills and what to use. I used one that worked but I still die a LOT, we're talking 2 hit commenly

Maybe rune keeper would be better survivability?

[sinful laurel]

Runemaster is almost guaranteed better survivability

[scenic sparrow]

can i make the judgment rly big, so it slaps whole Screen ???

more than this ?

[marsh maple]

nope

if you want big aoe

your in the wrong place

[icy drift]

if you want big aoe go runemaster glyph of dominion

damage not guaranteed

[marsh maple]

https://youtu.be/1BjC9l2VhGU

that too

also wait what do you mean

@icy drift

ignite glyph does insane damage

[icy drift]

yeah i went lightning lul

[marsh maple]

that erasing strike build is something you want for aoe

[pallid socket]

hello, im currently having some problems with launching the game. ive played the game for about 100 hours before 0.9 but now, my game won't even launch. there doesn't seem to be any solution to this

[sinful laurel]

Verify integrity of game files?

Update GPU drivers

[pallid socket]

i did verify and it still didnt work

[sinful laurel]

Can try a clean reinstall including deleting the game folder in users/user/appdata

[scenic sparrow]

maybe you have unclosed game after crash in Task manager ? try to end forcefully Last epoch in task manager, or restart PC
and if that doesnt help, then Reinstall the game

[pine trail]

@sinful laurelSo I started over lol......gear that has +health and +health regen, your saying choose +health over regen?

[sinful laurel]

Yes. Your Regen is very small and as a mage your health should be covered by ward anyways

[pine trail]

I'm 81 health at lvl 6 with 24 regen, seems to be working better

[sinful laurel]

You just want enough health for reactive ward to be stronk

[pine trail]

Oh wait that is mana LOL

448 health

[sinful laurel]

As your damage improves, even a small amount of leech will vastly outweigh passive Regen, unless you go super hard on it

And again, you're a mage

So that's silly anyways, outside of twisted heart type synergies

[pine trail]

Ihave firestrters torch as well, helps with fireball........at least Im guessing it does

[sinful laurel]

Dots are incredibly strong for the campaign.

I leveled every mage with torch and calamity

[pine trail]

So with torch and the added stuff, should I use glacier at lvl 8 instead of fireball? Seems like fireball and torch the damage would be not as much but way way less mana use

The guides all say use glacier + mana strike

[sinful laurel]

That's the hit damage way to level yeah. Lots of people like that

I'm not a fan

But personal preference

If you campaign with dots all you care about is ailment chance and number of hits and some % increases to dmg

[haughty compass]

when does dungeon loot change?

[dense root]

8pm est

[haughty compass]

15 minutes right?

[pine trail]

@sinful laurelAt 65 mana cost if I do it that way, it's gonna be a very long a slow haul though lol

I have 103 max

[sinful laurel]

What are you casting for 65 mana?

[pine trail]

Glacier

mana cost is 65

[sinful laurel]

Well take some of the mana cost reduction nodes. That's also what nana strike is for

[pine trail]

Hits like a mac truck but mana drainer

[sinful laurel]

Glacier>4x mana strike>glacier

Easy rotation

[pine trail]

Nice nice, got a melee speed attack, mana should build fast that way heh

Gains on each attack

err thats health nm

[sinful laurel]

mana strike regains mana...on strike.

[pallid socket]

I just updated drivers into reinstall and it's still not working

[sinful laurel]

what exactly happens?

[pallid socket]

I click play on steam and after a while, the game pops up for a second before crasing

There was a red exclamation point in the icon before the game came up

[sinful laurel]

where, on desktop?

or in steam library?

[pallid socket]

Desktop

[sinful laurel]

well that isnt right, but unsure why

where is the game installed to?

C:/program files (X86)?

[pallid socket]

I updated my AMD drivers, and tried again with desktop. Got the "you need steam" screen and thought nice, I can just go to steam now but somehow my drivers got reverted (?). After reupdating drivers + reinstalling LE, the steam one didn't open

One sec let me check

[pallid socket]

Yes, inside steam folders

[sinful laurel]

ok well one thing first, maybe stupid question, have you tried just restarting your computer?

[pallid socket]

I actually did, my screen froze while I was playing around trying to get it to work after updating the first time

[pine trail]

Yeah, I meant faster melee attack......the manastrike skill gaines on hit, so should build faster with faster melee, right?

[sinful laurel]

a bit yeah

[sinful laurel]

well you can try fresh installing the game outside of a windows protected folder. no guarantee it will help but it cant hurt

[odd spruce]

Any tips on farming the mad alchemists ladle?

[sinful laurel]

kill a lot of exiled mages

[odd spruce]

Oooh, only drops from them? Any specific nodes?

[sinful laurel]

mage prisons are random in every node

[pastel pebble]

They can appear in any node afaik

[odd spruce]

Cool. Thank you so much. Time to kill some annoying mages

[wide sentinel]

arent they garanteed? it feels like its on almost every mono, sometimes i dont seee them cause get to objective quickly

[pastel pebble]

I feel like I haven't seen some in maps I had to cover a lot of but that may just be an odd moment

[sinful laurel]

they are very common for sure

[pine trail]

@sinful laurelThnx for the help btw......this is going MUCH better this go round......more tanky like than before. The glacier+mana strike works well

[marsh maple]

They are not guaranteed

Misha

[sinful laurel]

freeze also equals a layer of defense. glad it is going better

[wide sentinel]

rippp

i wonder if they scale with corruption then cause it really feels like they are everywhere

also watching them jump out of the prison into 60k eq crit is pretty funny

[pine trail]

Oh yeah WAY better, just beat orion boss without even going below 1/2 health

Before I was near dying

[sterile widget]

Yes I believe this was confirmed either in the patch notes or by Mike /Judd somewhere

It was actually Tras
#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[wide sentinel]

well that explains it then, above 300 corruption its basically almost always there

[sterile widget]

It will be interesting to see how this changes with the corruption rebalance

[icy drift]

Wait they're not guaranteed?

Sure feels like they are lol

[sterile widget]

As a lowly 100-200c pleb I see the difference regularly. In standard monos (0c), they are infrequent and at 200c they are quite common

[grim jacinth]

Hi all, if I’m running pet beast master build. Should I use the rune of shatter for all the gears I’m not using with minion affixes ? Sorry am new to game lvl 20

[sinful laurel]

save shatters for items that drop with affixes you actually want, especialyl rare ones

i.e. flip your thinking 180 🙂

[pine trail]

@sinful laurelI'm gonna guess, manastrike gaining ward per hit is a good thing as well?

[sinful laurel]

indeed

[pine trail]

I never saw that part of the tree earlier

[sinful laurel]

if you have the points

[pine trail]

Man I'm gonna be like almost tanky lol

I'm headed over to that part

[sinful laurel]

theres a pretty standard mana strike tree most of us use when using it for mana gen

but do whatever you think is good 🙂

[pine trail]

HAHAH thats just it, I don't know LOL

[sterile widget]

I am not using Mana Strike but if you want to know mistakes to avoid, i can try to find an old build link later .. 😏

[grim jacinth]

So with the gear I find while leveling with the affixes I need. Should I just store them or sell them?

[sinful laurel]

use them

[grim jacinth]

I already found better ones

[sinful laurel]

then drop them, gear sells for pennies

[grim jacinth]

So what do with old ones? Just trash them?

[sinful laurel]

and you dont want to waste a shatter on an item that has maybe t2 affixes at a random chance to get shards

[grim jacinth]

Ahh I thought I’m suppose to save all with the minion dmg affix

[sinful laurel]

you will eventually have so many shards, especially common ones like that

[grim jacinth]

I see ok. Tbh I haven’t crafted anything yet so idk how the system works so i just read to save gears

[pine trail]

This is more what I was after.....not the dying a lot like last time

Whatever I did last time I REAAALY messed somthing up, sad thing I don't even know what it was

[hallow basin]

Does the Node Shadow Master increase the damage of ailments applied by the shadows skills they use?

[icy drift]

Don't think so? Not too sure though tbh

[sinful laurel]

abyss ask mike

now im doubting myself haha

[hallow basin]

already did

[marsh maple]

They do

It works with ailments they apply

[dapper canopy]

if a unique item has a skill bonus on it, is possible to apply the same skill bonus again via legendary crafting?

[sinful laurel]

yes

as long as that affix can exist on the exalted

[dapper canopy]

thanks, that will make looking for bases easier

[pine trail]

Well lvl 12 and already MUCH better

[thorny glen]

guys i have a question so...i was watching a buiuld video of action RPG and ina comment this guy said there is anitem very hard to find for him, and RPG answred him that if he was struggling he could buy it in the "DEC bazaar" anyone knows what that is?

[sinful laurel]

!trade

[ripe brook]

Are you a Merchant's Guild Member, or a Circle of Fortune member? Find out here: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/trade-development-update-introducing-merchants-guild-and-circle-of-fortune-factions/51994

[thorny glen]

wait...

[sinful laurel]

coming on 1.0 release

[thorny glen]

oh i was getting hyped to that stuff already implemented

[sinful laurel]

nope, but soon

[thorny glen]

sad, it's tedious to specific farm items in this game

[sinful laurel]

eh, lots of us like that

[thorny glen]

those rings are going to hurt me to farm them

[glad otter]

Is the new loot system going to help farm idols at all

[sinful laurel]

its going to help buying them

i dont think we have heard anything about idols for CoF

[thorny glen]

bee builds incoming tho

[undone otter]

@marsh maple what do you think this the best Sentinel or Rogue builds? (best = highest corruption pushing, tankiest etc)

been looking for a build for each to level so I can say I've played every class well into the end game

[safe harness]

@river fulcrum ^

(Leo is excellent sentinel player)

[dense root]

just level with umbral blades

it’s super smooth

[undone otter]

if only my brain worked like that lol

my Autistic/ADHD brain desperately loves a good guide (not that they're needed in LE) - but it helps me focus

[faint cape]

If you mean CoF, yes. We'll find out the specifics in January. #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[pastel pebble]

Any preferences for Sentinel mastery?

Don't play Rogue

[river fulcrum]

here is my list of the best BD endgame builds : low life syncronized strike shadow cascade (got a planner for that if needed)/lightning shakram/explosive umbral blades

or their full life version (way worse but you can actually start with those) except for lightning shakram because you can't reliably cap crit chance without death door.

otherwise you got lethal mirrage that is extremely good on paper, but no one actually tried pushing with it so it's still a question mark

[pastel pebble]

Ignore Leo

Leo probably supports oppressive fascist regimes

[undone otter]

I want to play them all to know our game better 🙂

lol

and no, no mastery pref

[pastel pebble]

Nah, refuse to. Just make kt up on the spot

[river fulcrum]

how do you know ?

[undone otter]

just something that is tanky and can do high corruption (clear speed is whatever)

[river fulcrum]

then that's not sentinel

[pastel pebble]

Not most anyways

[undone otter]

tankiest* for sentinel

[river fulcrum]

i'm all for sentinel gaming but it struggles hard at pushing, more than other class unless you play paladin hammerdin

[undone otter]

whatever is considered the best within the class

[river fulcrum]

paladin hammerdin actually can do corruption 2000

[undone otter]

cool

my buddy plays that, sorta bleed based ya?

[river fulcrum]

no clue lmao, i just know sommeone reached 2000 with it haha. ask sommeone else for an actual planner

i can only help on rogue for that

[pastel pebble]

Paladin Hammersmite is very good, I'm finding success with Smelter's Wrath

[river fulcrum]

if ever you solely care about corruption number, any variation of low life sync strike BD can do corruption 5000 and possibly 6000 if you're feeling motivated

[pastel pebble]

I don't rhink Muffin has that amount of time

[river fulcrum]

he is a dev, he can cheat himself the gear

[pastel pebble]

Lmfao

[faint cape]

I vote he runs cold locust swarm so that he can get the conversion bug fixed (shameless plug)

[undone otter]

sadly not my realm of expertise 😛

[river fulcrum]

by the way i think i already mentionned it, but i know you are really into minion and hydra RM (not technicaly a minion but same playstyle) is a contender for the best pushing build in the game, so consider giving it a try maybe haha

[faint cape]

It's okay, I've heard all the specs are one prefab, so maybe it's already fixed internally.... coping here

[undone otter]

I actually play Zappy Boy RM

I have a 99 RM and a 100 Necro and a 94 Druid

I play a lot 😛

lol

[pastel pebble]

But for the masteries:

Paladin - Bleed/Smite Hammerdins, Judgement, Kain had a solid Rive build apparently, Holy Trail, Warpath, Manifest Armor

Void Knight - Anvil Rive, Devouring Orb has seen some success, Erasing Strike (has a few variants), Warpath

Forgeguard - Smelter's Wrath (Dr3ad's Chronostasis one and I'm doing a big crit one with Vengeance), Manifest Armor, Shield Throw, Shield Rush, Rive but not as good

[faint cape]

Low life BD is really a blast, and hammerdin is okay too

[river fulcrum]

just for stats, anvil rive and devouring orb are both confirmed 1000+ capable as vk

[pastel pebble]

These can generally do all content between corruptions and T4

[undone otter]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Akkhala/character/Szayel

what flavor of BD is that?

[pastel pebble]

Kain's Paladin did 1000c ye?,

[river fulcrum]

yup but it can go much further

[river fulcrum]

speed scaling shadow cascade

warning, it's not up to date

apostate is dead and i didn't fix my res balance after vitality change

it used to be min maxed

[pastel pebble]

Apostate lives

Just not for you non-Sentinel players

[undone otter]

😛

[river fulcrum]

i can still leave it equipped and do twice your max corruption as a sweet spot corruption

[pastel pebble]

BD atrophies you mentally

I am strong and lively

Mentally and physicallt fertile

[river fulcrum]

bold of you to assume i wasn't mentally atrophied before BD

[pastel pebble]

LMFAO

[river fulcrum]

when i push to 2600 in the first place it should clue you in

[pastel pebble]

I feel like FG's Smelter's Wrath has potential

Apostate 2x Chronostasis does a lot of damage and has that Rebuke protection goinf

[sterile widget]

I'd previously said I expected merge conflicts were the reason for some regressions... serialized data is the worst.

Whitespace-sensitive serialised data...

[dusky kite]

it's not gonna get much easier with trade. First off, they need to balance trade against the "SFF" faction that will have only slightly better rates than now, and secondly they need to balance trade against the current rates of farm/item acquisition. To that end they had announced a global reduction in drop rates for the trade faction, which some community members estimate to be in range of 95%+

although we don't have official info on that part yet

[faint cape]

Yep, that is definitely one thing Unity is not great about. Pros and cons! Spirit Plague can suffer.

[thorny glen]

still fast raven's rise

[sterile widget]

Hahah. Poor Spirit Plague.

[eager crystal]

since the game is still in beta/early access. does the game will reset all your progress on your character on official release?

[undone otter]

nope

[eager crystal]

thanks!

[undone otter]

np! 🙂

[hushed rain]

Good morning. Around how much corruption do i need to get the Heart Of Uhkeiros to actually drop ? I am over 300 corruption now and haven't see any single one drop ☹️

[grim jacinth]

hi all, im going through the campaign first time and i noticed there some zonei've never entered. should i go thorugh each zone in case of a question inside?

[safe harness]

sounds like rng 🤷

[hushed rain]

So it's just bad luck...pfff...thx

[scenic sparrow]

Does Offhand sword counts as "Unarmed" in paladin Judgment Gloves ??? ( shield counts as unarmed)

[marsh maple]

no

[quartz lily]

morning guys

[scenic sparrow]

good morning Europe 😄

[quartz lily]

what would you guys try to slap on a 1LP Static Shell? I got this but Im wondering if I should aim higher (t6/3x t5)

Nothing I'd rather have than maybe swap a suffix for Crit reduction, I suppose

or health

or % armor

[icy drift]

Prob armor ngl

[vestal stone]

Quick question: is rune of removal completely random? or does higher tier affix have higher chance of getting removed?

[surreal verge]

Random

[odd bolt]

Guys do we know wich is the % for a specific unique item?

[storm blaze]

no

[desert tree]

In what situation ?

[odd bolt]

Box of Hydrae

[desert tree]

From a echo reward ? From a random drop ?

[odd bolt]

echo reward, i think random drop is common

[desert tree]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/uniquesim

[odd bolt]

i love u sir

tyty

[desert tree]

❤️

You need 2 websites from extra infos
Lastepochtools and tunkslab

[ashen meadow]

I just download last epoch last night and Man there are a lot of skills to choose from. I am just wondering is there a way to always refund what you spent and re-spend it and if you raise your attributes, can you also refund those and respend those? I’m always worried about doing the wrong thing and getting stuck with it.

[dry narwhal]

you can respec everything except your mastery

[desert tree]

Mastery > Cannot be changed
Passive > You need a NPC and a small gold fee
Skill > You can respect at all time but you will need to lvl them up again

[ashen meadow]

Can I at least level all masteries to max and just swap them as needed? Other than that that is cool

Oh, I think you just mean choose your master you can’t change that?

I presume the skills within the masteries you level up like you do skills

[desert tree]

If you start as Sentinel and pick Void Knight , you cannot swap and become a Paladin for exemple

If you want a Paladin you will have to create a new Sentinel and become a Paladin

[desert tree]

I am not quite sure I understand that one

[dusky kite]

not on one character but nothing stops you from having a character of each class eventually

[sick rampart]

what's the difference between 100% stun chance and anything else above 100%?

[native sail]

The difference is you don't have 100% stun chance you have 100% increased stun chance

[sick rampart]

aaaah

[native sail]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/stun

[scenic sparrow]

the bonuses are little bit tricky

There is "Base ability/stat"
and these increases and multipliers modify it

[sick rampart]

i think i get it but i prob dont, which wont make much difference

tyy

[onyx oxide]

Can you respec your mastery after choosing it ?

[scenic sparrow]

no, the game specificaly states that when you are choosing mastery
you can still invest into half of the tree

[onyx oxide]

Mmh okay, and no plan whatsover to change that mechanic in the future ?

[onyx oxide]

Weird, it's not mentioned in my game

just the three choices

A bit sad though, even diablo 2 allows respecs

[slim scarab]

Most tankiest class for infame progression, for a slow reflexes player, bladedancer or runemaster?

[onyx oxide]

Guess I better consult build guides first then

[cold plaza]

Between those 2, I'd go runemaster

[sick rampart]

even in grim dawn you cant respec classes

thats pretty common

[onyx oxide]

dunno, it feels punitive to me

means I kinda have to check a guide

[slim scarab]

Ty master. Atm I'm leveling Hydra, waiting for go to your frost builds. At which level I can switch in your opinion? 70?

[scenic sparrow]

i hate the fact i cant swap classess aswell , it feels super limiting. and if the only reasoning is "do the same class with different specs" well i am not doing it then

[sick rampart]

that depends entirely on what you're seeking. if you're looking for the mathematically best build, you will always have to check a guide if its your first time in the game. if you're looking for the concept of the class, the descriptions are very clear about them and how each class works with its own mechanics and skills

[cold plaza]

I think 35 or 36 is appropriate for playing fb Frost Claw, rushing the Frostbite Armor Shred node in the runemaster mastery

[native sail]

It is stated in big red letters when you pick your mastery that it is a permanent choice.

[onyx oxide]

not really no :

[native sail]

Click one.

[sick rampart]

but i understand the frustration, i've been there a couple times, but it was mostly because i wasnt sure about which one to pick

[native sail]

It gives you a pop up.

[whole shuttle]

Anyone using GFN to play Last Epoch no of a way to restored deleted characters? I accidentally deleted mine 😦

[onyx oxide]

it's more about choosing the gameplay that I feel I enjoy the most, I can't know in advance if the skills from a mastery are gonna be fun to me or not. And since I can't respec I feel bad having to pick one without being able to just try

[scenic sparrow]

i agree

[onyx oxide]

Doesn't need to be super easy like D3 but just ahving some kind of repeatable quest or certain items to gather that would allow a mastery change would be really nice

[native sail]

They have deliberately said no for years, the system is staying.

[sick rampart]

although there is still a big versatility in each mastery, allowing you to pick a few skills from other masteries trees which wont actually put you into only 1 kind of playstyle forever for each mastery, most of the skills follows their respective mastery concept

[onyx oxide]

Alright alright. I don't really agree with the decision but it's their game after all

[sick rampart]

i know this doesnt truly answer what you want, but it is just to let you know that you wont be stuck into one kind of playstyle only regardless of the mastery you choose

[surreal verge]

WHen you were picking mastery there's a dialog that says exactly that.

[sick rampart]

id suggest taking a look into a few yt videos, to aknowledge each skill better, so you can understand how each mastery go as you level up

[onyx oxide]

Haven't picked mastery yet, exactly because I wanted to check the respec possibility first

[surreal verge]

Also, you can actually check a skill's skill specs even if you didn't unlock them

[onyx oxide]

Can't really play with the skill though

[surreal verge]

Just try right clicking the skills in the skill boxes

[surreal verge]

It's better than nothing, at least you get a base idea.

(Also franky, mastery pick is so early now, making a new char to pick another one isn't the end of the world)

[onyx oxide]

Thanks, it's good to know at least

[sick rampart]

not quite, if its your first playthrough tho

[surreal verge]

Well it was double the current time in the past first OR repeated playthroughs

So in that comparison it has technically improved.

[candid elm]

You are able to change everything except your initial class and chosen mastery - the mastery you get at like level 20, very early in the game. You also can still put points half way into the unselected masteries.

Respeccing your Passives and Skills is very easy. Skills are free, just takes a little to re-level. Passives just take the in game gold currency, which you'll have a ton of.

[faint cape]

Yeah, it can be kinda hard. There are usually (but not always) a few really strongly themed base class skills you get before mastery selection, that may help.

But I'm an altaholic either way, so I made a bunch of characters before ever getting serious in the end game lol

[surreal verge]

Yeah there's also builds that mostly use base class skills, so there's a lot of stuff you can mess around

"Fuck around and find out"

[balmy oriole]

How do more multipliers interact with ailments that the skill applies but that are from external sources?

[sick rampart]

yeah that's when i took a break from the game i think. honestly i think it should've stayed the way it was, so new players could get a bit more of the game's core mechanics and the combat pacing, and having explored more of the base skills. and giving some way to allow players who already beat the game to just skip straight to the mastery selection point

[native sail]

EHG is against zero effort skips. So that wouldn't happen.

[faint cape]

Same as normal, they inherit modifiers to the applying skill, and are affected by whatever is relevant

[sick rampart]

then i should stop delaying all those ton of builds that i've been thinking about and level up new characters 😔

[balmy oriole]

I dont quite get what you mean, so I am thinking about a frostbite tornado setup. Tornado has a lot of more modifier and if I have external frostbite chance does the frostbite applied by tornado (the lightning) inherit the more multipliers or does it not? ^^

[faint cape]

Yes

[balmy oriole]

okay great thank you

[knotty tinsel]

is there a list somewhere of the hidden ailment-reduction stats on all class skills? like warpath etc

maybe warpath is the only one but I'm not sure

[scenic sparrow]

have you looked into loot filter ?

[desert tree]

D2 doesnt allow to respect from sorcerer to barbarian

Going from Runemaster to Spellblade is closer to Sorcerer>Barbarian than swapping Liightning Nova > Fireball/Meteor

And if we want to be accurate you have 3 "free" respects in D2 and then you need to farm for the token

[faint cape]

It doesn't show on LE Tools nor TunkLab afaik. I think pretty much the only ones are warpath and flurry. Can't think of any others off the top of my head.

And both -40%

[onyx oxide]

Still you don't make a fixed choice for your character after you've started it.

but anyway

it's not important

[sick rampart]

wait warpath has some hidden feature? what is it?

[surreal verge]

Don't worry every thing else can be freely changed outside of combat.

[surreal verge]

Lower ailment chance.

[sick rampart]

oh dang

so would it be even worth it to invest in the node that gives chance to shred armor?

i've seen a few build planners that people completely skip it and i never knew why

[surreal verge]

It's 40% less of the total as a last multiplier, might be worth it IF you have enough attack speed, but most of the time probably not.

50% becomes 30%, 200% becomes 120% etc.

[desert tree]

I dont think so, you might find a better use for thoses points , and you can get your armor shred from other sources (gloves, weapons, amulet)

[sick rampart]

ahhh okok thats very good to know

tyyy!!

[onyx oxide]

Stupid question, but when comparing an item to two potential equipped items (rings for example) how do you compare to both ? Currently when comparing a ring it will only show one of the two equipped

same with dual wielded weapons

[surreal verge]

Oh, you can't. Known 'issue'

[onyx oxide]

ah alright

[faint cape]

It's not hidden, it's in the Alt text (shows in game, just not on external tools sites afaik)

[sick rampart]

Oh frick another tooltip I completely missed. Man I really need to train myself yo actually read the thing before asking. Ty tho

[cedar locust]

What other tooltip did you miss? I like to track stuff like this for the design team 🙂

[sick rampart]

Don't worry about it, its just me being me. I completely forget about the extra info on alt key and stuff that are not in the main tooltip

[scenic sparrow]

i missed the warpath thing aswell 😄
yeah, the thing about the "dmg ,attack speed, 40% , 60% , double attack speed" could be in the main tooltip
and what i would like would be : there is the "strenght" effectivnes
and stuff
would be cool, if there is in the alt tooltip the "increased melee damage" etc, all modifiers that affect the spell currently

[faint cape]

An update to the character sheet is coming eventually that should address that last thing at least

[kind spade]

what weapns should i use as bladedancer for max damage?

[sinful laurel]

depends on your build

[kind spade]

i have the rhytm build

bottom line

havent finished campaign yet

[sinful laurel]

I'm sorry, idk what that is

[kind spade]

lvl 27 rite now

it s a buff

[sinful laurel]

oh rhythm

[kind spade]

yea

[sinful laurel]

hmm ok, thats not really a build

[kind spade]

that line

[sinful laurel]

so are you using dancing strikes as your main damage?

[surreal verge]

If you meant "Weapon type", whatever that gives you the best damage with the right affixes.

ALso yeah, what skill you're using is important

[kind spade]

i noticed maces have way more base damage

compared to swords

talking about single handed

[sinful laurel]

lerim you are thinking about this the wrong way

you want to pick the weaponthat has the best combination of stats for your damage, regardless of the base type. Now this comes with a HUGE caveat, in that bladedancer has weapons of choice passive and other passives that gives you bonuses based on TYPE of weapon

so you would want to stay within whatever weapon type gives you the bonuses you want from the passive tree, and then go with the weapon you find/craft that has the best stats

[surreal verge]

That assumes you run that passive node of course

[sinful laurel]

sure but if you are dual wielding its a no brainer

and with dancing strikes you are dual wielding

[kind spade]

ok another question

i see rogue has alot of skills that turn phys damage into bleed/poison... which one is stronger or they are quite the same?

[surreal verge]

Bleed is physical and poison is poison.

[sinful laurel]

Generally bleed is stronger at the moment but both can be played if you desire. Also LE doesn't TURN physical damage into bleed or poison

Yeah

[kind spade]

well there is a node that say heal per bleed

that is super beneficial

[sinful laurel]

Sure. And you can build some bleed

[surreal verge]

Well both are for different builds and for different skill sets

[sinful laurel]

But in LE, any skill that hits can apply any ailment that you have a chance to apply

You just don't want to split your damage. So if you want bleed, then focus on physical damage and damage over time (and bleed chance and attack speed lol)

[kind spade]

how can i target farm legendaries?

they only drop in empowered monos?

so that means i cant target farm before lvl 100?

[sinful laurel]

you craft legendaries from combining uniques and exalted items of the same base type. You can target farm uniques and they don't only drop in empowered monos, you just have a better chance at getting the one you want in a shorter time in empowered. No one really stays in non empowered

[dense root]

you should start empowered well before level 100 just for the record

[ashen meadow]

What happens if you do not choose a master class?

[dense root]

nothing

you can't progress the story

and your character can't use any of the mastery passives tree

[icy drift]

people about to start leveling warlocks and falconeers from now

[wind blaze]

I didnt expect this game be for pussies, even hardcore character it's too easy

I just rush the map

and kill only hardest mobs

to get most xp

[icy drift]

there's infinite scaling, it literally cannot be too easy xd

[sinful laurel]

Campaign is easy by design

[wind blaze]

they seems not to be

[sinful laurel]

Ok but it is

[wind blaze]

I rush the map

[ashen meadow]

I’m just wondering if leveling stops can I just use the skills available without any of the masteries I’m only asking this in case they come to the point where I need to choose one. I just wanted to delay it for a little bit.

[icy drift]

there is, you're just not at the endgame yet

[wind blaze]

I was hoping they would scal

like in all games

[sinful laurel]

They do...

[icy drift]

they don't scale with your level no

[sinful laurel]

Oh not level scale no

[wind blaze]

but it's silly I can rush through map with lvl 33 and kill the boss

[sinful laurel]

Dude you're in the campaign

[wind blaze]

yeah

[sinful laurel]

It's easy. By design

[icy drift]

i don't understand the issue here

[dense root]

the campaign is basically a tutorial

[wind blaze]

that's silly

[sinful laurel]

I feel like you aren't listening to the words we say

[icy drift]

i mean fair enough

you can think it's silly

not many share your opinion though

[wind blaze]

why to make long tutorial with no challange !?

[dense root]

arpgs are complicated and they want people without any experience to be able to pick up the game and learn as they go

[knotty tinsel]

a fair question

but it's how it is

[icy drift]

you can delay choosing a mastery however long you want, but you won't be able to use any of the mastery skills until you choose one

[dusky kite]

cause the developers don't want to turn off hordes of causals who had taken a mouse and keyboard in their hands for the first time ever

or something

[dense root]

one of the strengths of last epoch compared to something like poe is that if someone is a new player with limited arpg experience they can play through the campaign and learn how the game works without needing a bunch of outside assistance to get through the most basic content

[dusky kite]

I mildly dislike easy time sink chores like campaigns or mmo leveling myself but this is quite endemic in the genre so apparently the bucks flow that way

[icy drift]

and fyi a lot of people complain about stuff like campaign lagon being too hard, so just because it might be easy for you and us, doesn't mean it's easy for everyone

[faint cape]

Yep, it can be argued the challenge may come too slowly, but that's for #1123697853882187847 or #1123698164503949392

[wind blaze]

seems to be the problem with most games these days... player base has no hands and no brain, so most games are "you are awesome" 10x every minute shown on the screen

[faint cape]

Masochist challenge may also make a return eventually

[ashen meadow]

But I can still level up?

[icy drift]

just blast through the campaign and get to the endgame and you can make it however hard you want

[faint cape]

Yes

[icy drift]

yes you can level to 100 without chosing mastery

[dusky kite]

sure that's how a lot of people were "preparing" for the rm release, but you won't have normal access to any of the skill point or idol slot quests

[wind blaze]

trying to, it's just long... and I play casually... I picked hardcore character hoping game will be challanging....

[icy drift]

you can legit just not do the campaign too if you want. just go to the end of time right now

and start doing monoliths

[dusky kite]

unless somebody teleports you to skip past the story

[wind blaze]

oh can one do that?

[icy drift]

yes

[wind blaze]

I can try

thx

[icy drift]

just go to the end of time, on the right you can enter the monolith of fate

but it starts at level 58*

[dense root]

58

[wind blaze]

I dont know what they are but I assume its this path there where stairs appear

[icy drift]

no

to the right

[wind blaze]

yeah

[icy drift]

there's an entrence that says monolith of fate

not the stairs to the left

[wind blaze]

yeah I saw that

[icy drift]

yeah

just go there

[wind blaze]

thx

[icy drift]

np

[wind blaze]

yeah 33lvl now need to level up a bit I gues

but it goes quick

[icy drift]

care not to die, the mobs are gonna be a lot harder

[wind blaze]

I guess hardcore character if it dies it dies right?

[icy drift]

nah it goes to softcore

doesn't delete

[wind blaze]

that's shitty

lol

[icy drift]

i mean you can delete it yourself if you want

idk lol

what does it matter

[wind blaze]

😄

no adrenaline than

[sinful laurel]

Inb4 mashoo messages tomorrow that his HC char ripped

[icy drift]

i mean the character is no longer hardcore if it dies

[wind blaze]

I like Albion where you can lose in 1min whole month of grind

thats good adrenaline 😛

[icy drift]

yeah that happens when you die in hardcore

because it goes to softcore

so you don't have it in hardcore anymore

[wind blaze]

what's the difference?

[icy drift]

unless you go "oh well guess i'll play softcore now"

[wind blaze]

easier mobs?

[icy drift]

none

[wind blaze]

no mobs?

[icy drift]

no difference

[wind blaze]

😄

[faint cape]

They have separate stashes

So it's basically like your character was deleted from HC, you "lose" all their gear

[wind blaze]

ok so there is some penalty at least in this game

[wind blaze]

more games should be by default like that lol

[faint cape]

Yeah, it's a soft delete essentially

You can hold on to the ghost char for memories/display

[knotty tinsel]

I think that if my character dies an anvil should fall out of the sky and crush my skull killing me instantly
that's good adrenaline

[dense root]

if you die in game you die in real life yeah

[wind blaze]

house should burn

and PC explode

[dense root]

it’s the only way

[wind blaze]

yes

finally someone who agrees

Can I kill other players when I am playing online that are also hardcore char

and take their gear

[dense root]

no

[wind blaze]

sad

[faint cape]

No PvP here yet

[wind blaze]

no pvp at all !?

[faint cape]

Nope

[wind blaze]

good that you tell me...

[dusky kite]

lol bro do you even read the description of games you buy

[knotty tinsel]

I think they just wanted to play world of warcraft

but clicked a wrong button somewhere

[wind blaze]

I want full loot pvp experience

[knotty tinsel]

yup, this game is not that

[wind blaze]

sad

[sinful laurel]

So... Tarkov?

[knotty tinsel]

should've read the descriptions I guess

[faint cape]

Yeah, that is definitely not ARPGs, like any of them ever afaik

[wind blaze]

cause kids would cry?

[sinful laurel]

Full loot pvp hardcore experience where you die in real life

[wind blaze]

I havev that when I go out

[knotty tinsel]

are you the type of person to open up a chess board and complain that it isn't monopoly also

my brother in deity you bought the game

[wide sentinel]

wait really? i mean are u familiar with arpg games in general?

[wind blaze]

I do play AlbionOnline

[wide sentinel]

feels like trolling ngl

[wind blaze]

it's nice...

[wind blaze]

I am not, I dont know Last Epoch just started playing yesterday

[icy drift]

albion is not in the same genre as these games

[wind blaze]

had some bugged quests

[sinful laurel]

So you want a pvpve open world loot mmo

This is not that

[wind blaze]

even diablo had pvp

iirc

[sinful laurel]

In one small zone

[icy drift]

"pvp"

[knotty tinsel]

if only steam showed you a list of tags that describe what the game is about on the store page...

oh well

[sinful laurel]

Or with a toggle

[wind blaze]

yeah

but it was there

[wide sentinel]

well what u said is just not something arpgs have in general, even tho poe and diablo 2 technically had pvp no one played it really

[knotty tinsel]

it very much is not, oh the d3 pvp thing yeah that is there

[sinful laurel]

And it sucks in like 99.9% of cases

[icy drift]

well this game doesn't have that, rip

[sinful laurel]

If you want I can just invade you over and over in dark souls?

[wind blaze]

cause many players like games that you pay some money and you win, or game reminds you how awesome you are every other minute... without any substantial consequences of dieing.... well here Last Epoch isn't so bad cause at least you lose stash...

but perm delete char would be better

[sinful laurel]

Welp. It's not

So

Rip in peace?

[knotty tinsel]

a lesson to carry into the future I suppose. look at what a game is before buying

[surreal verge]

[wind blaze]

not that expensive these days

[wide sentinel]

ye last epoch as any other arpg is about hundereds of hours of grinding mobs to get 1-2 armor upgardes, not killing players

[sinful laurel]

There are quite a few games that would fill that niche for you though

[knotty tinsel]

Maybe something like lost ark would be up your alley?

does that game have pvp?

[surreal verge]

Yes

It has surprisngly decent PvP

[wide sentinel]

ye, a dead one, it died 2 months in even tho it has one of the best pvp systems among mmos

[sinful laurel]

Maybe play some destiny 2

People love some pvp there iirc

[faint cape]

GW still best PvP in MMOs

[wide sentinel]

or mortal combat

[sinful laurel]

True and based

[knotty tinsel]

maybe we can get him hooked on PoE HCSSF Ruthless

[icy drift]

you should try lost ark, decent pvp in that game, but no hardcore or anythin

[sinful laurel]

Nah, other players aren't constantly trying to kill him. Not hard enough

[icy drift]

wait i have a better one, play league of legends

[knotty tinsel]

has some great boobies though

[wide sentinel]

what was that vampire sandbox game

[wind blaze]

I already play DoTa2

[knotty tinsel]

oh my condolences

[desert tree]

V rising

[wide sentinel]

yes

that one

[icy drift]

what character, i used to play lich

[wind blaze]

and Heros of Newearth

[knotty tinsel]

mf has been gaming since the neolithic era

respect

[wide sentinel]

tldr this game has no winning or losing, there are competitive aspects but they boil down to who makes a better character and can get further in the game

[sinful laurel]

V rising is fun if you can do the survival crafting stuff

[icy drift]

true V rising might be more up your alley

[knotty tinsel]

V rising doesnt seem so great if you're playing solo from what I saw

[sinful laurel]

The combat is aces though

[cedar locust]

I liked that, though I was playing on a solo, heavily adjusted server, cause I'm grumpy and only play alone xD - some 'mini-bosses' were just too hard on the standard settings

[icy drift]

man i thought Ave was about to off-topic us in this channel too

was ready to revolt

[sinful laurel]

We're slowly convertingvher

[cedar locust]

Nope, now I'M going Off-Topic xD

[sinful laurel]

Join us

[knotty tinsel]

maybe we can make the last epoch v rising server

[icy drift]

hell yeah

come to the dark side

we mean no harm

[wind blaze]

I think for thrill I will keep playing AO and for brain shutdown I will just do clickign in Last Epoch

[cedar locust]

That's no fun

[icy drift]

get baited
https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-rabbit-bunny-gif-11190286

[wind blaze]

Last Epoch seems casual enough for after work relax

[sinful laurel]

For thrill, try whitewater rafting. Or free climbing. Or base jumping. Or skydiving.

Can recommend

[wind blaze]

I do wall climbing

[knotty tinsel]

holy shit

[cedar locust]

[knotty tinsel]

@river fulcrum

[wind blaze]

would get kicked out from the gym if I used no ropes

😄

safety rules

[knotty tinsel]

fellow climber spotted

[sinful laurel]

who climbs in a gym, free climb mountains man. you want that thrill right?

[knotty tinsel]

SPONGE BOB SQUARE PANTS

wait

I misread that entirely

[icy drift]

LOL

[wind blaze]

ok gotta go, gf wants some attention,cheers !

[knotty tinsel]

holy

[cedar locust]

Pssh, safety? I grew up in a school gym like this (not sure why ALL photos are in B&W it was the 90's), one safety mat for the whole room lol

[icy drift]

isn't that what school gyms still look like? had a friend break his leg with the bone sticking out once

[wind blaze]

yes they do pretty much

my mom is a teacher 😛

[icy drift]

nice

[wind blaze]

no hard feelings, but I need to mute this server for this evening .. peasky notifications 😛

cheers!

[icy drift]

bye!

[dusky kite]

wow did you actually have a gym? We used to hang around abandoned construction sites

our football field was a patch of relatively clean land near an illegal trash dump

third world country problems

[vapid lark]

anyone knows if there is a possibility that the game is gettin a discount on steam any time soon ? :3 it looks like a game i could really enjoy

[sinful laurel]

Nope

But it is worth it.

[river fulcrum]

Yes ?

[knotty tinsel]

jump to the message

[river fulcrum]

Rock climbing bro detected

[grand harbor]

Is like harvest lich the only way to play lich

[sinful laurel]

no, its one of the hardest ways in fact

or at least most investment needed

[grand harbor]

Can you tell me what other like main dps skill builds there are haha it's like honestly slightly boring and I find I really on reaper form like too much and basically get obliterated by ranged enemies when I'm not in reaper since I can't dash

[candid elm]

@vapid lark The devs have previously stated there will not be another sale "for quite a while": https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/steam-summer-sale-june-23rd-july-7th/49045. The last sale was around June of 2022. That was a 20% off sale at $27.99 USD compared to the regular price of $34.99 USD.

If you're interested in the game, while yes it's still in early access, there's a good amount of content already. I feel like I've definitely gotten my $35 worth of playtime out of it and don't regret my purchase

[sinful laurel]

rip blood transplant, marrow shards spam, hungering souls spam, spirit plague/wandering spirits necrotic dot.

[dense root]

we actually have more specific info than that which is that they said the game wouldn't go on sale until after release

[surreal verge]

Harvest Lich is TECHNICALLY the worst of the working Lich builds.

[dense root]

and since it's not releasing for 4 more months

[solar shore]

just started the game and choose lich

any good builds for it?

[surreal verge]

^

[solar shore]

which 1 has the fastest map and fastest bossing?

[dense root]

technically the answer to both questions is volatile zombies with the new experimental affix

but i think no one expects that build to survive the next patch for a few reasons

[solar shore]

ah i see

cause right now ive got no idea what to build

[vapid lark]

Alright ty then i will buy it now:)

[sinful laurel]

LE is really good at letting you figure it out on your onw 🙂

try stuff out and see what you like

[solar shore]

is there such thing as int stacking in LE lol

[surreal verge]

OHOHOHOHOH

OHOHOHOHOHOH

Yes.

[sinful laurel]

yes

[surreal verge]

(At least for acolyte)

[sinful laurel]

not just that way

several ways

[dusky kite]

stack 150 int
suddenly realize that you should not have been stacking int

[sinful laurel]

thats one way for sure

the wrong way

[dusky kite]

on a more serious note int is mainly stacked in ward builds

[surreal verge]

But these two are the most common ones.

[dusky kite]

cause it gives ward retention that is otherwise hard to get

[sinful laurel]

get 150 int on rogue, realize you done fucked up

[solar shore]

ah I see so it isnt as good as it is in poe lol

[sinful laurel]

that isnt what we are saying

int stacking can be extremely strong

but there needs to be a reason for it, just like PoE

[surreal verge]

Well stat stacking isn't always useful in LE, but you can build around it sure.

[native sail]

You can int stack on Mage to get basically free 100% crit

[sinful laurel]

*spell crit

But yes

[dense root]

well it's bugged to be generic crit

but in theory spell crit

[sinful laurel]

Still ?

[dense root]

i believe so

[sinful laurel]

Thought that got fixed

[dense root]

i haven't tested since i wasn't going to take advantage of the bug

[sinful laurel]

Oh well. Yay/rip

[dense root]

but i didn't see it get fixed in patch notes

i may have just missed it

[native sail]

Okay tbf, Spellblade isn't real so Mage only has spells

[icy drift]

Wait wat really lol

Thought they fixed that

[sinful laurel]

Ow 😦

[icy drift]

You're telling me I could've had a bunch of free crit all this time?

[sinful laurel]

But my spellblade uses spells 😦

[dense root]

spellblade is the forge guard of mages sorry

[surreal verge]

OOF

[sinful laurel]

Y'all harsh

[native sail]

It's true

[dusky kite]

it's a tiny bit better than fg so it will have to wait half a year more for its rework

maybe in 2225

[spring bone]

Is there a way to reset your account on last epoch to fresh start?

[dense root]

no

well you can delete everything manually

but there's no button you can press

[south wigeon]

in the blademaster shadow dagger build - should I take shadow dagger in shift? maxroll guide doesnt. takes only shadow cascade?

[candid elm]

I couldn't find that post, but I think I remember reading it. If you can find it, please link it so I can use that for the next time someone asks about the sales. The one I linked was from the last sale that was around June 2022

[dense root]

i don't have the link readily available sorry

[candid elm]

Just if you see it again later

[native sail]

Don't use the SD node in there, no. The Shadow Cascade one is setup to stack them a bunch for you and easier.

[candid elm]

I tried to find it at one point, because I kind of remembered reading it

[spring bone]

How's that possible? I can't find a way to manually delete the stuff online

[dense root]

so you log in and manually drop all your items on the ground

[surreal verge]

Are you talking about online or offline.

[dense root]

then you spend all your gold

[surreal verge]

[dense root]

then you delete all your characters one by one

if you're offline i imagine you could just delete the saves from wherever they store them

[icy drift]

You'd still have gold and shards though :d

[dense root]

it's probably like 5 files

[spring bone]

online

[dense root]

i did say spend all your gold

you're right that you also need to craft away all your shards

[icy drift]

lol

[dense root]

not much to be done about tabs unfortunately

[spring bone]

I want to be able to start fresh with my friend because they're new to the game and I have so much stuff unlocked already

[surreal verge]

My condolences. None.

[drowsy mulch]

Is ivory rings in the gamblers loot table?

[surreal verge]

No, gamblers only stock lv 40 or lower base item level items.
ALso don't use the gambler it's bad.

[south wigeon]

what is the optimal order to take skills for the shadow dagger bladedancer?

[spring bone]

rip guess we're going to to find a diferent game to play then

[dense root]

idk just take umbral blades at level 16

it doesn't really matter besides that

[drowsy mulch]

Then what's a good way to target grind Cycle of Putrescence? My character is level 70, so I don't think I can do The Age of Winter.

[surreal verge]

That... and that's it. Find any unique nodes.

Also, the gambler never stocks uniques.

[icy drift]

Yeah, and use your runes of ascendency on rings

[surreal verge]

ALso Rune of Ascendance doesn't give a crap about an item's base, just their type.

Eg:Any ring can make any ring unique

[dense root]

back in my day the gambler gave all the uniques

[icy drift]

Yup

[candid elm]

And that's why we have a nerfed gambler now

While days shakes his walker at the kids on the lawn

[drowsy mulch]

so when using runes of ascendency do lv or any ting mater?

[dense root]

just the item type

[surreal verge]

Nope.

[candid elm]

No, just the general base item type

[surreal verge]

Just "Oh you gave me a ring I'll give you a ring"

[dense root]

like 1h sword -> 1h sword and stuff

[surreal verge]

Also "Oh you gave me a 1h axe I'll give you a 1h axe"

[candid elm]

Ring to any non-boss drop only unique ring

Boots to boots, etc

[dense root]

also if you turn on streamer mode you get rarer ascends

but aside from that

[surreal verge]

Oh yeah it can't make boss only drops

[drowsy mulch]

I whish it respeckted what type of ring

[surreal verge]

Then some uniques will be impossible to make

(also too easy to target)

[candid elm]

The Ascendance Runes would have to be much rarer then

[drowsy mulch]

Never to easy cuz i hate farming for my build enabling uniques

[surreal verge]

The zombie ring is also pretty common. Or supposed to be.

[drowsy mulch]

I pray 🙏

[surreal verge]

At least in LE you can just run another build on the same char until you find the unique you need, then you can respec into the build you want

[faint cape]

Yeah, the vast majority of build-enabling uniques are common

Which also makes them easy to hit with rune of ascendance

[pine trail]

@sinful laurel Just curious, and I probably know the answer, but +mana vs +mana regen.....same as health, choose +mana over regen?

[icy drift]

Depends

[sinful laurel]

as always, it does indeed depend

[icy drift]

If you're having issues sustaining mana and you don't use a skill to generate it then yeah mana Regen can be nice

[pine trail]

Well yeah, always is a depens hehe. I'm guessing +mana vs regen will warrent more mana pool

[icy drift]

If you're casting something super expensive that takes a good chunk of your mana pool but you have a decent way of getting mana back, max mana can be nice

[sinful laurel]

well thats just definitional

yes

[icy drift]

But unless you're scaling with max mana, max mana is kinda meh outside of making your build smoother and nicer to play

[sinful laurel]

just depensd on what your needs are

most builds that dont scale max mana can get away with like 200 or so

[icy drift]

^

[pine trail]

Casting glacier which is a mana sucker......but I am using manastrike and focus to regen mana, but it'd be nice to have a bigger pool to cast more times before regen/focus/manastrike

[sinful laurel]

thats your answer

no amount of passive regen will EVER compete with mana from mana strike

[icy drift]

Yeah if you're using mana strike you'll have enough mana generation

[sinful laurel]

you probably dont need focus either

[icy drift]

Just get some more max mana so you don't have to use mana strike after every glacier

[sinful laurel]

waste of a skill in a mana strike heavy build imo

[surreal verge]

Yeah you either use focus or mana strike, not both

It's not like you can use both at the same time

[sinful laurel]

you can spec frost claw instead and get even more mana back when it procs off mana strike 🙂

[pine trail]

Ahh yeah never noticed that before, gift of winter

[sinful laurel]

its a nice bit of damage too as you are already scaling cold and spell damage

[pine trail]

I may mess with that later. Right now I'm at a good comfortable spot using glacier+mana strike, don't wanna mess a good thing up sorta thing

[sinful laurel]

literally nothing will change

but up to you 🙂

[jade jetty]

hello, loading are very long when I'm in a party. When I'm playing alone (online but alone), it's fast. Is it only me ?

It's not exactly the loading, it is the "before loading" step

[surreal verge]

This is normal. Multiplayer is a hit or a miss

[jade jetty]

frustrating

[pine trail]

I'm torn honestly, the less mana will be nice, but that massive dps glacier has is also nice LOL....why can't I have both!!

[sinful laurel]

wait wait wdym

your glacier damage wont change

you wont have less mana

focus isnt doing really anything for you

[pine trail]

Ohh I thought you were talking about frost claw

[sinful laurel]

why not drop focus for a better skill that has more utility

no, you spec frost claw to proc on melee hit

and you just keep mana striking

[pine trail]

Oh I see now ok, I was wondering heh

[sinful laurel]

and it can give you ward too

its an easy win

[pine trail]

But yeah, that sounds better than focus

[sinful laurel]

for zero gameplay change

[pine trail]

wait frost claw gives ward?

[sinful laurel]

yes, shiver shell and reowyn's veil

which you have to path through anyways

with enough points you can spec it to proc ice barrage too

for more damage

with again, no change in gameplay

[pine trail]

Well knock me down and call me shorty it does if you go down.....and it's really close to the middle so ill be able to spec it fast

I don't think I'll ever learn all the damn trees lol

I'll focus on lvl 20 first then figure that out

[kind spade]

better go for lvl 50 to unlock all skill slots

[pine trail]

Baby steps 🙂

[pine trail]

Man that ward per hit really pays off!

[sinful laurel]

you are learning the same way we all did

one bit at a time

[pine trail]

The health mixed with a small bit of health regen + mana strike + ward, helps a lot. The + to melee speed helps too, gets mana back slightly faster that way. I can mostly stand toe to toe now with mobs, and if I kite with bosses I can do those as well.
I think overall the health + ward is the biggest factor why I'm doing quite a noticable bit better this time around.

I know you all don't hear it much but I greatly appreciate the advice and suggestions, really helps with being new to the game. So many times I've just quit playing because the game (not this game in particular) but some games there just isn't any community help to be had. That to me helps enjoy the game a LOT better

[sinful laurel]

glad to hear it. This game is worth it

why we are all still here

[native sail]

Hey speak for yourself, I'm here to make fun of my friends

[sinful laurel]

aw. we are your friends?

worth it

[pine trail]

Oh yeah.....of my 30+ yrs of gameing, started with text based BBS mud called major mud, then went from there until now, I've played a lot of games. This game is the first one I've enjoyed a lot. Not overly complicated, but can be on builds, but with help, that get get lessoned. The game is like a diablo/poe mix feel. So far I really like how the mechanics are, not pay to win, not overly complicated as a whole, and is pretty newb friendly, for the most part

[sinful laurel]

you have a long way to go too

lots to learn, many hours to spend 🙂

[pine trail]

What threw me is the attack and cast mecahnics, hard to wrap your head around coming from other games. Tags = important heh

Most generally have melee and cast, this has a mix of both

[native sail]

Yup. They diversified things in this game in a way that makes it intuitive while not homogenizing everything.

[knotty tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/fresh-prince-we-will-smith-theres-no-we-shocked-gif-17214689

[pine trail]

I see people playig this game that are from diablo and poe backgrounds, see a lot of poe type builds cropping up, trying to get the poe build converted to LE, which is really cool

[sinful laurel]

i was just excited to maybe have one. thanks for fucking it up

[knotty tinsel]

You're welcome, fellow internet stranger

[pine trail]

LOL, that comment had a erkel/sheldon vibe to it LOL

Melee attack speed is 49% lol, love me some fast attack speed at low level. Helps that mana leech baby!

[sinful laurel]

torg we arent strangers at this point. We are at least strange acquantainces

[sinful laurel]

elemental weapon

[knotty tinsel]

eh, nah, I'm sorry. No one here knows me and I'm happy to keep it that way

it's not personal

you're acquainted with how I act on discord

[sinful laurel]

lol im jk

[native sail]

You are a human 🫵

[pine trail]

Is there a base build for passives and sorc skill trees that most use, ie: glacier tree

[sinful laurel]

some skills have a more common layout that most use

[knotty tinsel]

pressing log out and creating a runemaster seems to be the meta rn.

[sinful laurel]

but not something that is so common that EVERYONE uses the same thing

[pine trail]

Yeah I was gonna do that, even naes my toon alpharune LOL.....but.......I looked at some rm builds, I'm gonna wait a bit before I venture into that class, to busy for me atm

[sinful laurel]

it is inherently more mechanically involved yeah

[drowsy hornet]

gonna roll a the new falconer class when it comes out - whats the best way to prepare? level up until the end of time to choose the mastery and leave it there? Theres no way to level up more than that point correct

[native sail]

You can just hop to monos

[sinful laurel]

some people leveled non mastery mages to 100 for runemaster release haha

you are welcome to do that

not something i would ever do myself

[drowsy hornet]

holy 💩

[sinful laurel]

indeed lol

[drowsy hornet]

i mean the quest line can't proceed without choosing a mastery - so it'd be power leveling or griding monos with leveling legs

[native sail]

Yup, pretty much

[drowsy hornet]

damn thanks - i could only follow Alric and Zerrick for so many times beforee it gets stale lol

[pine trail]

Yep I know I'm doing better now. I'm at the spot that I had a terrible time staying alive again, and I'm doing tons better

@sinful laurel You were 100% correct, I was spec'd for damage as apposed to health last time

[young topaz]

Hello i play a minion build acolyte and i don't understand the unique ring "cycle of putrescence", i don't know which minion skills are tagged as DoT minions

[desert tree]

Its not just DoT minions but minions with a DoT Spell

Vomit Zombie and Fire Aura Golem match thoses tags

[young topaz]

So once i put a point in vomit zombie both of my rings will each give +1 to those skills?

[desert tree]

They should

[young topaz]

okay i'll try thanks

[young topaz]

fyi it worked for the zombies but not for the golems it seems

still great though, ty

[pine trail]

Woohoo, all time high lvl on sorc....lvl 23

[pine trail]

So at what lvl should I be able to switch over to like lightning strike? Guide i'm looking at says don't use it till 35, so my guess would be lvl 35?

[zealous musk]

Hi, so I heard rogue seems to be a bit buggy atm. I wanted to play a marksman next any idea what I should look out for what is not working properly?

[sinful laurel]

Lightning strike?

[pine trail]

Err lightning blast sorry

[sinful laurel]

You can switch to it whenever you want

Very different playstyle but

[pine trail]

I doubt I'll last, lightning doesn't do near the damage as glacier right now

[sinful laurel]

How do you know

[dense root]

you'll be happy to hear that marksman's viability is not impacted by the bugs at all

you'll be less happy when you find out why

[zealous musk]

It was never viable I assume lol

[wide sentinel]

why? there are some good marksmen builds not sure where u heard that its very bugged tho

[zealous musk]

I think I read on reddit that rogue is bugged atm

Imma try it anyway tomorrow

[sinful laurel]

The main bug is shuriken blade shield. But just don't use it

[sterile widget]

Piles of bugs. Still most powerful class in the game. Story checks out?

Obviously we have to exclude Vengeance / Smelters Forge Guard from that assessment

[dense root]

tbf most of the bugs are not relevant

there's like exactly one bug that actually matters in terms of impacting rogues top end builds

[pine trail]

Well hells bels I'm stuck :0

can't kill the Emprors remains

[faint cape]

Have you tried reducing its hp to zero?

(but seriously, what part of it are you struggling with?)

[pine trail]

I finally after 6 times of dying beat it, what a pain

[faint cape]

Ah okay, yay!

[pine trail]

So.... I'm lvl 27 now. I'm still doing melee a lot with glacier. When does the melee get less and the lightning strike more? I try lightning strike but I still can't use the skill as a main yet, I get beat up to much and the damage isn't real hard/high with it yet

[ashen meadow]

How do i Dual wield as a Rogue?

Nevermind i figured it out

[strong bane]

what kind of item is this? like rarity-wise?

[pastel pebble]

The experimental affix on it or what?

[strong bane]

oh so is this an experimental item, because I heard someone talking about it in a vid

i just havent played in a while

and yea the faded purple affix