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native sail
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Do you have move speed on your boots?

lament tundra
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not anymore :/

native sail
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Get it.

lament tundra
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i replaced them w/ health

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i mean ones that had health

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rolled

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ok i will try when i get new boots

native sail
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Ideal boots are almost always move speed + hybrid health + flat health or CDR and then whatever stat you feel like to fill

lament tundra
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why flat health not %?

native sail
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Boots don't have % iirc

lament tundra
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ah

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also i got confused

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i replaced different boots

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but i will try to get movemenet speed then try him again

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but when do i jknow when to talk out the circle

native sail
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Generally when he does the weird movement where he lurches backwards

surreal verge
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Isn't there also a big ass AoE that appears when he starts winding the cast up?

native sail
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It can be a bit behind the initial movement

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Generic boots I look for. Vit can be swapped to whatever really, I just like to have more health cuz the others aren't as necessary

lament tundra
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ok thanks

native sail
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The cold res base is also decent, but this one is almost always going to be better

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(EHG please, item bases need some rebalancing)

lament tundra
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i got him to 30% hp

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@native sail

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thanks

native sail
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Oh hey, you got a good roll on your blessing too!

lament tundra
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i like that i insta kill boss when they drop low hp

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as lich

native sail
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Yup, cull is super nice

lament tundra
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btw is it me or death comes quickly is bugged? i never see the effect

native sail
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Post it? I'm not an encyclopedia unfortunately :P

lament tundra
native sail
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It's possible that one doesn't have a visual timer

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EHG has a weird philosophy with timers where they think buffs that are likely to be on all the time don't need a visual, this might fall under that umbrella. Of course it is also entirely possible it is bugged.

lament tundra
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is there a way to note the strongest active cull %?

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that i have active

native sail
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I think it's legitimately just the highest one that you hit them with

native sail
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Thanks for the confirmation, that one felt right to me but wasn't a 100% certainty

surreal verge
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Yeah it's in an alt text somewhere

lament tundra
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yes but i meant

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how do i know the highest threshold i currently have

native sail
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I think you'd have to manually check your sources

surreal verge
sterile bane
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Prima has a similar skill, does it work on bosses??

native sail
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Yup

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Cull works on everything

visual plaza
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For rings with prefix "throwing damage and reduced mana cost", does this apply to Shield Throw?

native sail
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It is a throwing attack, so yes

knotty tinsel
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throwing tag = it works

visual plaza
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Ok noted, thanks guys.

knotty tinsel
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it'll even reduce the manacost of decoy. only a bit but it's consistent

native sail
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I'm gonna reduce your mana cost soon enough, Torg

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This is a threat

knotty tinsel
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please do I'm a sentinel

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we're fighting for our lives here

visual plaza
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I am trying make shield throw have zero mana cost. Hahaha

knotty tinsel
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definitely doable and worth doing if you wanna play capt. america

visual plaza
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Assuming i max polished steel and steel barrage, i get -25 mana

I i max ricochet, i get +8 mana

I get ring with prefix throwing damage and reduced mana, i get -3 mana

The base cost of casting shield throw is +8 mana

Hence everything adds up to zero mana cost. Does it make sense?

knotty tinsel
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seems about right

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also an exalted throwing damage ring affix gives -4 manacost instead, might not be worth it though

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and there's the forge guard shred node to consider. if you're a physical or fire build and can fit just one point of that in your budget that's a big win

visual plaza
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I wana theory build a paladin shield throw manifest armor and also judgement for support damage / heal.

native sail
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I mean, Shield Throw is already integral to a lot of MA builds tbf

visual plaza
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The problem i only got 5 skill slots.
Shield throw
Manifest armor
Smite
Holy aura
Judgement

native sail
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Smite seems like a wasted slot on that. Void Cleave has a pretty nice buff for MA though

visual plaza
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You need smite so that you can proc smite on shield throw for healing sustain

knotty tinsel
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you're also not gonna get that much mileage out of judgment I'd assume, since you wanna be shield throwing constantly

native sail
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I mean

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Healing sustain and MA are reaaaaaallly rough

knotty tinsel
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scaling like 5 different things at once lol

native sail
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Cuz then you sacrifice idol slots that you are going to NEED

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MA's whole thing is a combination of "don't get hit" and "kill it before it moves" really

visual plaza
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Shield Throw manifest armor is squishy build. I need healing sustain.

native sail
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You're not gonna find it in an MA build

knotty tinsel
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one problem at a time, having half of everything will fall flat

visual plaza
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I feel like binashole shaman totem is so much easier to play than sentinel. You get both damage and sustain together. I wana build a good paladin too.

native sail
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You are starting to see the sentinel problem YEP

visual plaza
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Yeah, i still can't crack the sentinel code

knotty tinsel
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the code is you're the squishiest class, concealed by a thin metal shell

visual plaza
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Haha true

native sail
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There's no code to crack, everything Sent does something else does better. Can't even call it a jack of all trades because it doesn't even have half the capabilities other classes do

desert tree
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Play judgment conc aura

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It's so stupid and so easy to gear

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I still can't believe I ve almost 1 phase lagon yesterday

visual plaza
desert tree
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The non empowered lagon with a lvl 60 character

visual plaza
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Cool

desert tree
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With garbage tier stuff

visual plaza
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judgement is very good skill because you get both damage and sustain in a single skill.

unreal sonnet
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is storm crows basic attack a spell or physical attack?

desert tree
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A spell can also be physical

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Like avalanche

unreal sonnet
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OK i got confused by the node that said melee damage but it was for the buff

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kinda lame that you cant convert the ability to cold tho NOTOK

sterile bane
unreal sonnet
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i have that they still cast lightning pet ablility

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the crowstorm

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oh wait

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ure right

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it has a lightning ring but a cold flash lol

serene patrol
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Can I search tier 7 in my stash?

desert tree
desert tree
sterile bane
desert tree
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Don't think so

wide sentinel
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and u had judgement healing

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but overally idk why would u take judgment over banner which heals more and also buffs both u and armor

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and also a teleport

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holy aura is also questionable for that build, barely provides anything and void cleave would be way better

obsidian orbit
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if my weapon have a "increased 40% lightning damage", i need to have a lightning dmg source right? or else it wont function?

visual plaza
surreal verge
visual plaza
surreal verge
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No, Javelin.

visual plaza
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oh... banner is the battle standard.

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I have not explored javelin class in the past... but now when this has been brought to my attention... i notice that the right side of javelin is pretty good for healing and sustain. there is even a node for it to cast smite every 1.6 seconds. it looks pretty awesome at first glace.

pastel pebble
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Its very cool

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I should play with Javelin more

surreal verge
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It is

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Javelin banner is like one of the two default sentinel traversals

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Apart from Void Cleave

desert tree
sterile sandal
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so I read elsewhere on here that Hakar's Phoenix is BiS for Locust Swarm. Why is it? When I equip it (I just reached level 63), my damage on skill bar drops by over 30% (from the 2 hander I'm using), and it has pretty good rolls (except +1 skill)

knotty tinsel
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damage on skill bar is terrible dont trust it for anything

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not sure about what hakar's phoenix does for it myself though

pastel pebble
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Its so far off with Rive

spark yacht
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did anyone experience extreme rubber banding while using channeled abilities (warpath)

knotty tinsel
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you're better off asking who doesn't

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birthing pains of online

obsidian orbit
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is there anyway i can find out what's the total shred armor % i have?

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didnt see it in character screen

surreal verge
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Don't think so except with pen and paper

sterile sandal
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should I use hakar phoenix + the mace, or the 2 hander, for locust swarm?

obsidian orbit
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is the giant crab meat in coral pool quests bugged?

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cleaared the map, but not a single meat...

latent canyon
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For off hand people usually use a shield

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Cradle or bastion

faint cape
unreal sonnet
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any tricks to cast shields such as thron shield on yourself with controller?

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it keeps targeting my minions 😦

faint cape
latent canyon
sterile bane
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im going to try squirel bleed with bee

opal nest
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does higher tier in Lightless Arbor affect the Vault drops?

lost delta
vale lake
sterile bane
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no i meant a squirrel and bee build

vale lake
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Also, squirrels scales off of str and bees off of att

sterile bane
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i saw one but ti requires springon form i want to see if i can do one without it

vale lake
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You're better off just doing a full bees if you go sprigg imo

sterile bane
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well if i get the bee glove ill let u know if it works at all

vale lake
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Tried bees gloves and the relic on a BM, so no sprigg, not worth it, you have to split too much on your build and it ends up not being worth, let us know if Sprigg is better

opal nest
runic slate
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Javelin build maybe ? 🤨

pastel pebble
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+5 Javelin is kinda wild

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Is there a Javelin + Hammerthrow build that can make use of that modifier?

sterile bane
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isnt 22 the most a skill a can have?

runic slate
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Maybe, I'm new to the game and was just grinding on my Fire Warpath when this droped and got the +4 javelin on it

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+5 with the sentinel skills

pastel pebble
runic slate
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so I was curious about trying a javelin build

sterile bane
runic slate
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I'll maybe try some Javelin shenanigans since I'm not too invested in my Fire warpath yet

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could be fun with the +5

native sail
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Why would +4 and +3 items exist if they capped at 22?

sterile bane
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thats what iw as wondering

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good to know

native sail
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I think the highest recorded is 30 though

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Most things can't get higher than that

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Most can't even reach 30

latent canyon
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on wolve/squirrels you can get to
+7 on helm. +6 from apogees. +1 from ww relic. +1 from omni

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so thats 35 levels

next quail
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hi can I have question about blessings ? If I pick blessing in one map like "Fall of the outcast" is this blessing valid only for this one map ? Or does is affect whole monolith (e.g. even black sun and later one) ?

latent canyon
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blessing works globally with minor exceptions

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the item specific magic find blessings doesnt work on boss only unique drops

next quail
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oh thank you ! For some reason I though it's just for one map. That's make my build much easier.

pastel pebble
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Is it even worth going that high?

latent canyon
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for wolves yes there are always more nodes

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the omni one is kinda useless for sure just for wolves itself. fang is much better

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so 34 is meaningful

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and without 33 pts you cant even get all the flat dmg/more dmg/ias nodes

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on top of all the ultility nodes

faint cape
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yeah, wolf is a very point hungry skill for sure

muted holly
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sup guys, what would be the best item to merge with hand of judgment? should i grab only an exalted attunement affix? or there is any better mods to put into it?

mighty grotto
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What's the point of Ride the Lightning in Surge's Skilltree (30% more spell damage for surge). It doesn't seem to affect lightning blast and fire auras. Is it only supposed to affect spark charges? and if yes, why is it behind lightning blast. Am I missing something and does it affect the others (my testing so far seems to imply it doesn't, but I might have missed something)

faint cape
faint cape
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I think they meant to make it global 30% more spell lightning damage while you are using surge, but it didn't get implemented that way, lol

mighty grotto
buoyant trench
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Had a great time playing the game in "offline" mode for a month since I was out of town, I came back home, played on my online mode characters, and can barely play the game, game is freezing and stuttering a lot, is this common?

visual plaza
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I will also get random crashes at offline mode. All these random crashes is very discouraging. Make people want to rage quit.

buoyant trench
cinder pumice
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do double uniques stack. like 2 unique rings/dual wields

surreal verge
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To an extent, yes.

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SOme stuff won't matter if you stack them, like certain things over 100%, but otherwise

stable pebble
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Hello, I'm not sure if this is the correct channel to ask, but does anyone know why I can't add void resistance here? I tried multiple items from the list on the right, but it still is marked as 'cannot be applied'.

desert tree
stable pebble
surreal verge
stable pebble
sterile bane
knotty tinsel
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if in doubt you can hover the item, and the affix lines have a little > at the left or right

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that's also the quickest way to scan a full stash tab for open affix slots to craft on

sterile bane
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i know when you craft it tells you if its prefix or suffix

sterile bane
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@vale lake do you use the vines boots with your squirrel bleed build?

vale lake
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No

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Will update my planner and link it to you after work if you want, right now it's still the version when I was trying to put bee in it and failed

sterile bane
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ok thanks. i asked because i jsut got the boots

visual plaza
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I have rushed to unlock empowered monoliths. However at Fall of the Outcasts, there is still a left branch I need to unlock. To unlock the left branch, can I do legendary echoes instead of normal ones? Or is the game need me to do normal echoes to unlock the left branch?

surreal verge
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Normals, but on empowered unlock you should have waypoints to ALL monoliths.

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Even without branches

knotty tinsel
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do sealed affixes count towards total affix tiers? i.e. for the fractured crown rune requirement

dense root
restive mortar
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hello. i respec`d transplant for summon skeletons, but something is stopping them being cast and i cant figure it out. must be a skill node somewhere or passive. any ideas ?

knotty tinsel
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aarons will chest I presume?

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read its affixes

restive mortar
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you right you right.. good looking out. reading is key

knotty tinsel
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tbf you should be able to still have skellies, that item needs all the help it can get 😛

restive mortar
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now to find a chest to replace it, and cry when i lose the health leech from one less gollum

surreal verge
minor schooner
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I recently started running empowered monoliths and finally have an endgame build that works super well. I was just wondering if anyone has any favorite ways to grind gold, because I love the loot explosion from Lightless Arbor and would like to run it some more for fun, even if I don't get anything that significantly modifies my build. Any suggestions?

runic slate
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Quick question wonderful people : Friend and I hit the monolith grind. Do we bother with secondary objectives or not ? I feel like they are a waste of time/reward for now.

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We are around level 66~ ish

surreal verge
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What secondary objectives? Murder?

latent canyon
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Stability?

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Most of the time no

knotty tinsel
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totem poles?

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idk

toxic saffron
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Is there a skill (sorcerer) or item that casts volcanic orb?

runic slate
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Stability ones yeah

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like "fill this bar" to get extra

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every time we opened the chest, it was a dissapointement so was wondering if its worth it

knotty tinsel
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stability only progresses the bar at the top of the screen on your monolith web far as I know

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and it's much faster to keep rushing objective than to stick around looking for mobs

surreal verge
runic slate
knotty tinsel
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not really. It's a bit of a point of contention

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no reason to stop, just run at the objective, do it, port out, repeat

obsidian orbit
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what is a purple item? legendary?

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and what do i do with items that have "legendary potential"?

spark yacht
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Exalted aka with t6/7 mod

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legendary potential is a special mod that lets you use exalted item with same item base and 4 mods to transfer them randomly onto unique item at the end of one dungeon

knotty tinsel
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open game guide -> type in "purple" -> only result gives a detailed explanation

obsidian orbit
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alright thanks

sterile sandal
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but as stated, the damage on the 100% bleed consume is sick, on dummy I'm already up to over 300K at level 65 with my mostly crap gear

sterile bane
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im fighting edler husk on last ruin and it keeps showing that i was hit by him when im running away. am i doing something wrong???

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yea that was really weird. i was running from the beams he was channeling and it showed that i was still being hit. anyone ever experience that?

obsidian orbit
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so, is the snek boss the last boss? cos now im sent to monoliths of fate...

sinful laurel
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Yes of campaign. Start monos now

pastel pebble
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For now anyways

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More chapters to come

sterile bane
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no one had the issue i had with elder husk?

sinful laurel
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Pod no offense at all, but it's hard to take any issues you have as widespread with your current situation 😦

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Who knows what severe, persistent lag would do to that fight with all the timings and rotations and backend calculations. Oof

sterile bane
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well thats the thing, i wanted to know if it was my lag or if it was the boss so that way if i do it with cor i know what to look for. also, call me pear

sinful laurel
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Gotcha :). And I don't think I recall any issues like that on husk

obsidian orbit
sinful laurel
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Rahyeh is a timeline boss

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Black sun

obsidian orbit
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so i will get back to that timeline during the monos?

fresh aspen
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alternate timeline

sterile bane
sinful laurel
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When I say timeline it's slang for the memory islands in the monolith of fate

obsidian orbit
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ah i see, thanks

sinful laurel
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Black sun is one of the alternate timelines

fresh aspen
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its like the multiverse in mcu

sinful laurel
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Player is loki. Confirmed

sterile bane
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how do u merge leg and exalted?

surreal verge
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In temporal Sanctum

sterile bane
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ahhhhhhhhhhhh do u have to defeat the dungeon first?

dense root
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yes

surreal verge
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Yes

sterile bane
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well thats going to have to wait

sinful laurel
sterile bane
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once i clear normal monos ill try that and areana to unlock it

sinful laurel
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I know you got the lag but if it's a low level unique you shouldn't have any issues clearing tier 1 to smash

sterile bane
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do u have to clear it everytime you want to smash?

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or jsut the first?

sinful laurel
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Yup. One clear, one chance to smash

sterile bane
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damn

native sail
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Or do me and clear repeatedly to get a cup and cry when you never get a cup

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30+ T4s in :D

near path
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that cup is way rarer than what the LE tools site states

pastel pebble
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Doubt it even exists

knotty tinsel
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mfw I finally have a character with the power to do t4s but the main skill basically bricks the fight

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(tornado pulling her into purple goop. aaaaaa)

native sail
faint cape
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rng be rng

native sail
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Let me Smadge dammit

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I just have garbage luck when I actually want something

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I've been storing exalted health regen items cuz I wanna try the cup but I can't get the damn cup

faint cape
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Yeah, I hate trying to actively target something because then it always feels like it takes forever lol

native sail
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Took me a year to get squirrels Deadge

faint cape
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doesn't help that running dungeons on repeat feels miserable... at least it's not as bad as farming the arena boss uniques

native sail
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There is a reason I have none of those

near path
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I think I'll inadvertently push like 400+ corruption on Fall of the Outcasts just trying to get my bow

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and probably 500+ on Spirits of Fire for an LP Bhuldar's

native sail
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Which one?

near path
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Flight of the First with LP

native sail
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Ah, good luck

near path
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game has given me 2LP of almost every other bow except Drelkor's

native sail
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I want the weird new one with 2LP or more but I have gotten one drop of it KEKL

near path
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I've got two of those if you mean Shadowstring

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two 2LP I mean

native sail
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No, Shadowstring is old

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The blue one that repeats

near path
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Gathering Fury? think I have a 1LP of that

native sail
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Yeah that

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I wanna get one and jack the attack speed up

near path
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problem is the limited use cases because it specifies "when you DIRECTLY use a bow ability"

faint cape
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The cooldown on its duplicate effect does kinda put a damper on aps stacking

near path
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the only bow ability you can effectively spam is Puncture or non-channeled Flurry

native sail
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I can spam Cinder Strike

near path
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everything else has really high mana cost

near path
faint cape
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yeah, there's quite a few

native sail
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And since the entire reason I want to use Cinder requires attack speed scaling, Gathering Fury seems like a good choice

faint cape
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you can spam all of the bow attacks except HoA, but that's just because of the cooldown

sinful laurel
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Puncture, cinder, MS, flurry, DA, all are easily spammable at their base levels

drowsy hornet
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What's the top frostbite dot builds, is it sorc and druid bear?

vale lake
# sterile bane ok thanks. i asked because i jsut got the boots

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/5BxX1yqB

That's what I ended up with, mostly min maxing at this point and a lot of my choices are a matter of preference and not necessarily optimal but there are quite some variations you could apply anyway

The empty idol slot are either some res to balance or health

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This version is tanky af, I once tanked t4 Julra room wide aoe inadvertantly, not that you'd want to do that anyway but it's a very good build for not dying

faint cape
wide sentinel
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especially after the recent fix to thorns ailment application

faint cape
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Maybe with the recent fix to spirit thorns, yeah. I forgot that happened.

wide sentinel
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well even before, it dealt less damage(but even then respectable amount) than others

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but it permafroze anything even on high corruption

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which is absolutely stupid and must be fixed

faint cape
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Swarmblade gets insane levels of frostbite pen, but it doesn't have a super high application rate

wide sentinel
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ye but it doesn freeze enemies, just big dps

faint cape
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yeah, my cold spriggan definitely permafreezes everything except mono bosses, where it's a little more unreliable - and my build doesn't even scale freeze rate lol

wide sentinel
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oh thats why, quiet does freeze all bosses that arent immune

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he scales freezerate tho

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why dont u scale it? just need more gear?

faint cape
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it's just a crit build rather than frostbite

wide sentinel
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arhh ye then its different

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i feel like dot version is better cause u scale both cc and damage with uniques

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so freeze rate is very efficient scaling

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plus eledot affixes are busted

faint cape
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I've got no problems with cc on mine though, I still stun or freeze bosses often enough that a lot of the time they are trivialized

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everything that's not a mono boss doesn't get to move if its getting hit

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unless it's one of those eye things that's immune of course lol

wide sentinel
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ye build is so stupid

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maybe one day ehg reworks cc

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both stun and freeze breaks the game

faint cape
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they did at least get rid of acolyte's permastun on drain life, so they made some progress lol

wide sentinel
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well freeze is slightly better cause affects less skills, but stun is out of control

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people just dont abuse it that often cause probably dont know

faint cape
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yeah, and hopefully they don't find out because it makes a lot of content really boring lol

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I played around with the acolyte permastun for science, and I must say it was dreadful

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like playing arena for every bossfight

wide sentinel
toxic anvil
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How does freeze rate multi work?

opal nest
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does blessings that grant shred resistance like "Shred Cold Resistance" from Age of Winter also affect minion?

dense root
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if it does not contain the word minion it does not affect minions

dense root
toxic anvil
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Ah

toxic anvil
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Like lightning

opal nest
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i see, ty for the confirmation

faint cape
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The resistance shred does benefit everything, including minions and other players, assuming it's applied. The blessing only gives application chance to you, though.

faint cape
# toxic anvil What about a spell that is cast by one of your spells

Can you clarify what you mean? Like subskills? If so, yes those still benefit from stats you have on yourself, as well as any stats specific to the skill that triggers the subskill (unless stated otherwise, though there's a few exceptions and skills that have a skill tree are almost never used as subskills).

naive nimbus
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hey, I can't bring the party panel of portraits up in my multiplayer, is there like a known bug?

drowsy hornet
toxic anvil
faint cape
toxic anvil
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doesn't that say it doesn't scale with the skill tree's points?

faint cape
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It used to say that, a couple updates ago they fixed it to work and removed that text

knotty tinsel
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oh so that one does get more multipliers

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...I have some respeccing to do

safe harness
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Maelstrom’s lighting doesn’t though

knotty tinsel
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mhm that one has the alt text

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I just assumed tornado was just missing it lol

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single tornado might still be less damage overall but it's sure worth removing the pull strength

muted holly
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sup guys, is it possible to tank the necrotic nova from the reign of dragon boss with rebuke?

knotty tinsel
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probably

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you dont lose much for trying

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unless youre one of the brave souls playing sentinel HC lmao

muted holly
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:x

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he literally didnt dealt any damage while i was channeling rebuke

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i guess im tankier than what i expected

cedar locust
opal nest
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does DoT spell can inflict Resistance Shred from blessing each second it active?
e.g: Infernal Shade with Fire Resistance Shred blessing from Spirits of Fire

surreal verge
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And thus cannot apply any ailment.

opal nest
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ah isee, ty for the information

faint cape
surreal verge
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Close enough,probably

faint cape
#

yeh

obsidian orbit
#

is there a dummy where i can test out my damage?

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I switched to a weapon that gives me more flat damage, but reduced my additional physical dmg %

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......

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and i'm not even sure if im doing more dps, because i haven't see the numbers at enemies (i don't usually notice the numbers too)

dense root
obsidian orbit
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do you rmbr which era?

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ok nvm found it, divine era, thanks

timid monolith
#

are their any known quest bugs going around right now? i have a quest available called 'a long detour' but i cant find out where to go to finish it

drowsy hornet
#

can rune of ascendences give monolith boss uniques

native sail
#

Nope, only random drop uniques

serene patrol
#

Does Primal resonance (swipe tree) trigger cry of the lynx (beastmaster passive tree)? I'm guessing not since the primal resonance node doesnt mention casting and aspect of the lynx requires you to cast the companion ability

fading imp
#

What does lich's playstyle look like? How much is the uptime on reaper form and do i focus on melee attacks or no?

native sail
#

The uptime on Reaper can be near permanent. The focus is usually spell focused though because the melee attack everyone wants to use on it (Harvest) is kinda... bad.

fading imp
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Ohh dang. No harvest builds viable?

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That's what i was building my acolyte with lol. Bone curse+harvest

dense root
#

harvest is alright if you ignore the words and numbers associated with the skill

fading imp
#

Wdym ignore the words and numbers?

native sail
#

If you're okay working significantly harder to do less than half the damage of other skills at similar investment, go ahead

fading imp
#

Ahhh i see. It's that bad huh

dense root
#

that's the real answer yes

native sail
#

It's a shame

fading imp
#

Sad. I was hoping lich would be like the spellblade equivalent

native sail
#

A lot of people are hoping Warlock will help it cuz Warlock is supposed to have a lot of curse support

fading imp
#

Ahhh the passives? I see. Not enough of negative feedback/big enough of an issue on lich for the devs to have some opinions on it? Like future buffs

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From the community

native sail
#

In actuality, Lich is probably going to be nerfed in the future because the other Lich builds are disgusting

dense root
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i agree

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nerf everything until forge guard is the best mastery

fading imp
native sail
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Rip Blood for one.

sinful laurel
#

god imagine the pure self flagellation and masochism to sit through 1000 waves of arena

native sail
#

Hungering Souls is also very good. Marrow Shards can do alright. Honestly, Acolyte has an issue of not having many "direct damage" spells, too much DoT imo

sinful laurel
#

hats off to that person

fading imp
#

Oh btw another unrelated question but do the dps shown when you hover over the skills take into consideration all stats like the 25% increased DoT and is the assumption of X dps is casting it every time a spell is on cooldown?

native sail
#

Tooltip is a meme

dense root
#

tooltip dps doesn't work

native sail
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It takes into account not enough and too much at the same time

sinful laurel
#

lol. Tl;dr no one knows

fading imp
#

Oh for real? How do i assess my damage then? is it just feel?

sinful laurel
#

hit a dummy

native sail
#

It ignores cooldowns on some skills, doesn't take in the proper stats or buffs of others

sinful laurel
#

UI and character sheet and tooltip dps are on the list of things to work on

fading imp
#

1.0 comes out with all mastery classes right?

buoyant sinew
faint cape
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You can also math out your damage

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but yeah, tooltip dps is really miserable for most skills, and others it just doesn't exist on (e.g. minion skills)

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in the end, feel is the most important imo, and use dummy to compare gear/passive/spec changes

pastel pebble
fading imp
#

Are runes of ascendance easy to get by or do i stock them up for lategame?

native sail
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Medium tier.

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If you stock gold and run Arbor you won't have an issue.

fading imp
#

What is Arbor? Kind of end game dungeon? And why the need for gold

native sail
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Yeah, endgame dungeon, it eats gold to give you rewards

fading imp
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Ah isee. So i can just use it early on since I can reliably grind for runes of ascendance later on?

native sail
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It uh, eats a lot of gold

fading imp
#

So better to just save it? For context im level 14 lmao

native sail
#

Oh yeah, you're a ways off from it :P
And I wouldn't worry about the runes in general for a while.

fading imp
#

Alright thanks man

tribal rain
#

when my primalist / druid goes into bear form, does the weapons i am wielding have any impact on my bear attack like Swipe ?

surreal verge
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Yes, of course.

fading imp
#

In my spellblade character, i get a staff that gives +21 melee damage but my shatterstrike dps goes down when i equip it over my sword that gives +20 melee damage. Is there some multiplier here as well that im not seeing here that is based on weapon type?

surreal verge
fading imp
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Yeah i don't trust the tooltip, im basing it on the numbers shown but it still does bring it lower. Affixes dont have anything regarding damage except +17 melee lightning damage but im using the shatterstrike skill.

tribal rain
surreal verge
#

Eg. Getting +100 melee poison damage (if it even exists) would add 100 poison damage to all melee skills

toxic anvil
#

bruh rayeh is one shotting meeee

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heeelp 🤣

toxic anvil
#

nvm i spam freezed him LOL

raven scarab
#

I am a little stuck, am on The immortal Empire questline, up to the bit where it says to talk to Gaspar in the end time.
I go talk to him, and he tells me to go back to the last refuge and talk to him there, however the quest doest complete and move forward, its still showing to talk to him in end time, and now the quest marker is missing and he is just repeating to talk to his old self.
The Gaspar in the last refuge (council chambers) doesn't want to talk to me at this stage.
I do have two active questlines, this one and "the ruined temple" do I need to progress one before the other will update?

raven scarab
#

oh nvm once I hit the imperial era it went away

cedar locust
faint cape
raven scarab
#

Second everytime I log out I always log back in and find myself at the end of time recently, even though the last time I logged out it was in the outcast camp, which while not a city still has the amenities, I would have thought it would just leave you there (online play).

cedar locust
native sail
#

I'm pretty sure it's intentional as End of Time is planned to be the "main" town

flint grail
surreal verge
sterile bane
#

if on the loot filert i hide non exalted items but i put show yellow blank, will it still show that item i put to show?

undone nimbus
#

Question: does Enchant Weapon's "Conflagrate" node explode all ignite stacks, including those applied by other players, minions, etc and whatnot?

surreal verge
surreal verge
sterile bane
#

got it

undone nimbus
#

My build applies literally thousands of ignite stacks and I was wondering if another player could use conflagrate to pop them

surreal verge
#

unlike the node from Soul reap where it states otherwise, maybe?

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fuck around and find out

near path
#

Oh wait never mind

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That only works for self applied ignites

faint cape
undone nimbus
#

Yeah Rive’s node also says it excludes ignites from other players and minions

undone nimbus
surreal verge
#

Fuck around and find outtttttttttt

sterile bane
#

is there a unique or set item that is bis for the weapon slot for bleed squirrel?

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hold on

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i mistyped

faint cape
#

Ah yeah, maybe they already removed that interaction where you can remove other players' ailments... I haven't been keeping up with it lol

faint cape
#

there's not a lot of options for weapons for minion builds

knotty tinsel
#

unless you're manifest armor 😛

faint cape
#

yeah, FG is weird lol

sterile bane
#

fg?

faint cape
#

forge guard

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(also, probably not dragonbone axe, I think that only gives flat damage to minions, you'd likely want soemthing that improves their bleed damage)

sterile bane
#

well i got an axe that increases bleed chance for me by a lot but i feel like theres something better

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i am using a low level unique for now but i might switch

faint cape
#

yeah, there are sceptres with a % minion damage implicit and you can roll % minion phys damage on them

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I'd probably run one of those and a shield, but that's probably a personal preference

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you could also certainly run 2h or dw if you want

sterile bane
#

ohh im def keeping ym sheld its realyl good

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does chance of bleed on player apply to minion?

knotty tinsel
#

no

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if something applies to minions it will have the word "minion" or "allies" in it

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Julra's Obsession is an exception with the affix "stats on this also apply to minions"

sterile bane
#

if this applied to minion it would def be BIS

#

are there any current bleed, non minion, builds that can use an axe?

faint cape
#

yeah, I think it's common to use axes for some bleed builds since they have such good implicits for bleed

knotty tinsel
#

the 2h axe base for bleed is the best option for a lot of different bleed angles

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simply because it's a lot of application chance

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Bardiche or summat

faint cape
#

only if you need to use a 2h, you can get more application chance or bleed duration from dw

sterile bane
#

whats dw?

faint cape
#

dual wield

sterile bane
#

yea i thought bout dw and go crazy bleed but my def would fall a lot

knotty tinsel
#

on an ailment ramping build I'd be less inclined to jump to dual wield just cuz more dmg taken

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especially when the tradeoff is Titan Heart

faint cape
#

yeah, but attack speed

knotty tinsel
#

yeah but death

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damage has a ceiling of functionality, survival doesnt

latent canyon
#

You peeps are catching onpogey

knotty tinsel
#

you spend enough time in the kitchen you stumble into the right spices shrugleft shrugcenter shrugright

latent canyon
faint cape
#

which I am definitely not touching lol

knotty tinsel
#

I have yet to break 250 corruption or beat a t4 dungeon boss on any character and I stand by my opinion

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also softcore fwiw, because hardcore would prioritize tanky regardless

faint cape
#

it's not an opinion - you can always kill faster, but once you are survivable enough to not die, you can't die any less

knotty tinsel
#

wut I don't know how to respond to that one so I think I just won't.

faint cape
#

if the way I phrased it is confusing, I can try to rephrase - I'm a bit out of it atm lol, sorry

native sail
#

The balance of the game is weighted in a way that you don't need to stack damage on most things and survival is valued far, far more even in "early" endgame. There is a reason why we don't waste affixes on resistances.

pastel pebble
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If rhing dead how I die?

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Me am kill fast, me am not die

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Me am outrunninf death

faint cape
#

thankfully getting to that point in this game isn't as big of a thing

knotty tinsel
#

greatly depends on the class you pick

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on a druid? no big

faint cape
#

where you build enough damage that everything is trivialized

knotty tinsel
#

oh, nvm

sterile bane
#

if something says +melee fire damage does it add fire damage to your melee skill or does it increase the damage your fire melee skill deals

faint cape
sterile bane
#

I UNLOCKED CORRUPTION!!!

faint cape
sterile bane
#

now i have to find the squirrel helmet

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so you only do shade of orbyoss after corruption?

faint cape
#

that's just the way you increase corruption in your timeline

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fighting the shade, that is

sterile bane
#

wait, i think everytime u beat the boss it increases the corruption?

faint cape
#

level 100 timelines have a minimum of 100 corruption

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no, the timeline boss is separate from corruption changes - in empowered monos, you do get Gaze of Orobyss which can increase the corruption you get from your next shade fight, but doesn't increase corruption on its own

sterile bane
#

corruption def makes it harde rbut i get why people want to push it but how somoene does this at 1000+ i have no idea

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i think im going tos tart a necro this week though

toxic saffron
#

Does the loot from lightless harbour chests depend 1) of your level 2) of the dungeon difficulty level?

near path
sterile bane
mighty grotto
#

anyone aware if there has been some update on plasma ball (50% lightning conversion on fireball) + Liath's Machinations (another 50% conversion) not converting fire res shred and flame burst? The latter may be fully intended, but the former is just a major problem since it makes it 3 empty nodes to get homing plasma balls. Thanks for any information!

sterile bane
#

i know this is good but idk what to do with it??

knotty tinsel
#

get different affixes

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prefixes*

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either risk a rune of removal to hit one of them and seal the other, or glyph of chaos the other, or chaos both

sterile bane
#

but i use melee damage

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i have to wath the video perry did on seal to see if its worth it

knotty tinsel
#

if you use melee damage then what use is bleed to you?

sterile bane
#

well im using the bleed and melee so the question is, do i save it for a different build, should i save it for a slam, or do i try to max it now

native sail
#

Wait why are you using melee damage and bleed at the same time

sterile bane
#

well im not using melee and bleed but since my minions do bleed and i do bleed as well

knotty tinsel
#

it's kind of one or the other, else you'll be bad at both

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even if the damage type is the same

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or is this a misconception about how flat damage works? that melee physical damage affix gives zero benefit to your bleeds

sterile bane
#

now i have to see if my build is optimal

#

and of course my echo froze on the one echo i wanted

sterile bane
#

do unique item echoes give you uniques from that mono or is their pool any, non boss, unique?

native sail
#

The latter.

sterile bane
#

ugh

native sail
#

There are no uniques that are not boss drops that are say "Fall of The Outcasts uniques"
Fall of The Outcasts just has nodes to get specifically a bow instead of any random unique.
You cannot farm any more specific than that.

sterile bane
#

i know you keep saying this but i keep hearing that to get the squirrel unique you have a better chance on that mono

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well no not that one, but black sun

faint cape
native sail
#

Yes, you have a better chance, not because of higher rates but because Black Sun spawns nodes that specifically only drop helmets. This does not make it a "Black Sun unique"

faint cape
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^ these nodes are the ones that look half green, half orange and the reward says "unique or set X"

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aside from the reward rock from those specific nodes and the boss drops, there's no difference in loot between the different monoliths

sterile bane
#

if endurance is capped at 60% does that mean theres no point in goign over 60???

faint cape
sterile bane
#

is that the dugeon unique?

faint cape
#

one of the arbor ones, yeah

sterile bane
#

lightless thats the one

#

yea if you can sell/trade anything when factions come out its going to be interesting

faint cape
#

you will be able to trade everything that is equippable (including idols)

sterile bane
#

i know thats why its going to be interesting.

#

you could make your entire build just by buying stuff

near path
#

I mean, you'd still need a good build to farm the gold required

native sail
#

You also need to have the rep and rank required to buy and sell the items you're looking for

sterile bane
#

so to buy it youll still need rank?

#

not rep right just rank?

native sail
#

Both.

sterile bane
#

well i mean that is fari but still doable

faint cape
#

rep is spent through trading, so it's something you have to continue to farm just like the gold

acoustic thicket
#

Is glacier sorc good i feel the damage is low what do you think ?

faint cape
#

I haven't played it, but I've heard that it's very strong

hollow oriole
#

Is crit chance bonus multiplicative or additive

sinful laurel
#

% crit chance is additive to base crit, % increased crit chance is additive with itself and multiplied by the base.

#

There are a couple sources of multiplicate increased crit (more crit) but they are rare and only apply to specific builds/classes

native sail
#

Flat crit * (1 + total increased crit) * (1 + more crit)

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Repeat the more crit step for every source of more crit, if you somehow have multiple

toxic anvil
#

what are shields good for?

#

not sure if I should want block that badly

sinful laurel
#

Shields are good for blocking indeed

sterile bane
#

from what ive seen shield have good blocking/armor/resistance affixes

fading imp
#

if i add points to hollow lich, i cease to have health leech? It just becomes increased damage? Or do i get both?

surreal verge
#

This covers ALL sources of leech.,

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(IF you get both it would be a must take on all lich builds)

fading imp
#

I thought so haha it sounded too good to be true. Thanks!

#

So taking this is detrimental? Since i wont be able to sustain reaper form for long periods?

surreal verge
#

Reaper form sets your health regen to 0.

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Leech is the only way to sustain it.

fading imp
#

I see i see

knotty tinsel
#

technically you could use healing abilities and effects that give health on hit or kill

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not that those are plentiful enough usually but it exists

pastel garnet
#

just dropping for a random question

#

the last patch was fairly disappointing for me

#

when is the next (big) patch supposed to arrive roughly?

surreal verge
#

Aug is the current guess and estimate.

surreal verge
fading imp
#

Also are scythes not a normal weapon type here? Is it just unique items that can be a scythe?

knotty tinsel
#

they're two handed axes, and some of those common ones look like a scythe too

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considering scythes are wildly impractical to use as actual weapons I think it's a good compromise 😛

fading imp
#

hmmm i guess. since they're axes they do melee dmg?

#

or are there any that look like scythes that also do spell dmg

knotty tinsel
#

you can hold one and cast spells, sure

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I think they give some necrotic damage which is actually pretty good for Acolyte's spells most of the time

fading imp
#

campaign is not yet done right? so i can go to endgame without finishing campaign and how early can i start it

knotty tinsel
#

you can go to endgame at like level 15 if you want and can kill the enemies XD

visual plaza
#

If I play necromancer full minion build, I can have high dps with 8 regular skeletons, 4 skeleton mages, 2 wraiths and 1 golem. But I find it hard to survive. How do you build sustain for necromancer?

surreal verge
visual plaza
surreal verge
#

Then just more hp,res and armor

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You can focus on dodging

knotty tinsel
#

that node feels very meh from when I tried to build around it

#

16 armor per minion is nice collateral but not worth summoning extra stuff for I feel

surreal verge
#

This is for builds that already want to spam minions

faint cape
#

Pure minion builds typically struggle with sustain. You can use dual blood golems, that unique axe that gives you life on minion hit, regen, ward, or probably some other stuff

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But it's balanced around you being able to just flat out not take damage most of the time

rocky ravine
#

Hey guys. Do I have a chance to see all the skill animations in the game ?

faint cape
rocky ravine
# surreal verge What do you mean?

I watched a lot of youtube videos. On the wiki pages, there are only the descriptions of the skills. I am currently playing in the Sentinel class. But for example, I'm curious about the base&mastery skill animations of the rogue class. Unfortunately, the skills are not clearly visible in the videos on Youtube. So I was wondering if there is a bulk video or page like this page (https://lastepoch.com/class/rogue). Thanks for the replies. I guess the best way seems to be to keep playing 😄

surreal verge
#

That is certainly oddly specific

faint cape
#

Yeah, definitely. Keep in mind that a lot of skills' visual effects change based on skill spec

rocky ravine
#

Yep. Thank u sm ✌🏻

cedar locust
runic slate
#

Hello everyone o/
So, I hit level 80 and I have an ok-ish build for my Warpath paladin but I'm missing the uniques that makes it better. Eye of Reen and Throne of ambition idol. I was wondering if it was worth my time trying to get them in normal monos or should I just push my maps, unlock empowered and then farm for them

native sail
#

Throne is a rare drop from the boss in Fall of The Empire iirc, so absolutely go to empowered first. Eye of Reen is a global drop (like all non-boss uniques, with like 5 total exceptions) and happens to be pretty rare so I'd also head to empowered for your best chances on that too

runic slate
#

Aight, I will just get empowored monos then

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You get them when you complete the last 3 zones and then activated blue altar thinigy in the middle right ?

native sail
#

Odds are you'll be okay without the items for a bit there, most things that aren't directly enabled by a unique but are still cohesive builds can at least get to 250-300ish with okay gear

runic slate
#

Yeah my build is doing ok right now even without them - I'm lacking some Res cap or some good rolls on my gear but I can clear whatever map there is. Lack a bit of crit i'd say

native sail
#

Don't stress about res cap (and definitely don't stress about overcap, its protection is limited), 60+ and you're fine for almost everything really

#

Layered defenses + mediocre res > res cap every time

runic slate
#

Oh yeah, I mostly focused on getting Health rolls than having res cap

#

just that, they are somewaht cap by themselves with some rolls here and there

#

I guess it's time I unlock empowered monos then - thanks guys for the quick anwser and see ya

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❤️

cedar locust
#

Good Luck! And if I haven't said it to you yet

visual plaza
sterile bane
#

so i dont understand what this does

faint cape
#

You can definitely use the health on hit node with any golem type, but the example I gave is a generic setup

faint cape
sterile bane
#

no i mean is that how i get corruption or is the ebst way to get to 1000 than do orboys?

#

or am i confusing myself

quartz blaze
#

thats how you gain corruption yes

#

you must complete those nodes to gain corruption

faint cape
#

Stability is not related to the shade fight. If you do have enough stability and are trying to get your corruption up, run the timeline boss first to get Gaze of Orobyss

sterile bane
#

so whats that 800 stability thing on top

faint cape
#

That's for the timeline boss

snow raven
#

Im need a help to choose my First build, i like skills with great aoe and like warpath and bow builds

Any sugestions ??

sterile bane
#

dont do marksman

sterile bane
sinful laurel
sinful laurel
#

Rake you liar!!! You said you were leaving! 🙂

near path
#

I'm not playing tho

#

Game uninstalled

sinful laurel
#

Ah now just discord lurking. I feel that 🙂

near path
#

Ye

snow raven
snow raven
near path
native sail
#

I think I'd consider it second most reliant. Maybe third.

#

Both Mage specs are really item hungry

sinful laurel
native sail
#

Funny Decoy

#

What's a boss health bar

sinful laurel
#

I personally do rogue campaign with cinder strike. It's such easy leveling with just one unique, maybe two

#

Puncture is also piss easy to go through the campaign and early monos. Dots rule in early to mid game and puncture lays on the bleed strong

snow raven
near path
#

Oh fire pally. You can start Paladin itself, there's beginner friendly builds for that. There's Holy Trail Javelin, Bleed Hammer Throw, two pretty solid starters

#

Which can function just fine on crafted gear

vale lake
#

Bone curse lich, still worth it to take illusion of pain with the cursed limbs nerf ? You pretty much can't gain a full uptime so isn't the full uptime better ?
And if someone had the formula of # of hits needed per cursed limbs duration to roughly see if it's worth, that'd be great

sinful laurel
#

When it first changed a bit of testing was done and iirc the general consensus was that cursed limbs is def still worth. It won't have a full uptime but with some CDR investment you can have a very decent uptime

#

It's just not free anymore

vale lake
#

Yeah free crit and the 150% more still seems strong, and decent uptime with transplant but wasn't sure, thanks 👍

sterile bane
#

can detonating arrow do mid corr?

toxic anvil
#

how do I not get oneshot at monos?

safe harness
#

Get 100% crit avoid, 60% endurance, hp on every gear slot that can

toxic anvil
#

where do I get crit avoid on?

#

rings?

safe harness
#

It can be on most on most armor; rings, boots, belts, etc. There is also a blessing from Reign of Dragons that gives a lot

toxic anvil
#

im dying to lagon boss

#

his eye laser melts me

#

and his ground explosion 1 shots me

#

i can take the claw hits

surreal verge
#

Any projectile he shoots that isn't the waves hit really really hard.

safe harness
#

You have to not get hit by those, unfortunately

toxic anvil
#

ah ok

#

just beat him haha

#

7th try 🤣

#

where can I see my blessings?

grizzled ice
#

guys, I really dont understand what going on lightless arbor dungeon. When I cross the portal I die when the loading screen ends. Then when I click on respawn botton my character stays freeze and I need disconnect the game

visual plaza
# faint cape The node right before the blood golem node gives golems life gain for you on hit...

Thank you for the suggestions for necro sustain. Very much appreciated.
Yesterday I was experimenting with rip blood and I think I finally crack the code for sustain. There's some nodes there for targeting minions for greatly increase health regain and also converting health regain into wards. This works wonders and I am able to greatly generate at least one thousand wards as a defense layer by spamming rip blood on my minions. So far it's working good. 😀

sterile bane
#

@vale lake you never sent me your build

cedar locust
quartz lily
# safe harness You have to not get hit by those, unfortunately

I have the same problem. Clearly a player-skill problem 🙂 as my kids have no problems with Lagon, it's just me. As far as I can tell, Lagon has 2 different big-hitter attacks that as must-avoids. Can anyone tell me what indicators to look for, i.e. how does Lagon telegraph his big attacks in advance?

visual plaza
faint cape
flint grail
buoyant trench
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I'm new at using legendary potential:

Is there a possibility the sealed affix will attach to the Unique?

surreal verge
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(Also does not count for the 4 affixes needed)

buoyant trench
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Aw man! Oh well, time to clean my chest then.

vale lake
acoustic thicket
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Static orb or elemental nova channel what is easier to start as begginer sorc and what is stronger plz ?

surreal verge
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Meta wise I think static orb is more consistent.

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Idk what's easier tho

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(Also if you're playing the campaign as long as you can read you can clear it easily)

acoustic thicket
surreal verge
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Not strictly

knotty tinsel
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there's so many ways to play that even now the best is subjective in a lot of ways

buoyant trench
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Is there a video i can look at regarding what to keep regarding Exalted for LP use?

knotty tinsel
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Be like me and keep a copy of everything

visual plaza
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What happens if critical chance or minion critical chance becomes more than 100%? Any additional benefits or bonuses to damages?

dense root
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no

knotty tinsel
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there's some very specific effects that benefit but those are one unique and one skill node

visual plaza
knotty tinsel
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Ignivar's head, which is* a catalyst does it; and the primalist skill serpent strike can enhance a DoT ailment with it.

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Unfortunately neither is very good right now as far as I know.

faint cape
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Has anyone really tried to push serpent's venom?

knotty tinsel
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I didn't after I found out gamblers fallacy doesnt work for no reason

faint cape
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yeah, I basically did the same lol

unreal sonnet
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does this convert to frostbite if u have the cold node?

knotty tinsel
unreal sonnet
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OK i feel like u drew those lines in anger but thanks

knotty tinsel
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I am lefthanded and use mouse with right

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😢 I try ok

native sail
surreal verge
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COndolences to both of you-

pastel pebble
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Haha get fucked

knotty tinsel
dense root
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wow

sterile bane
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is confluece of fate common drop?

knotty tinsel
sterile bane
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im in the game and my internet is too laggy to do bothh

knotty tinsel
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(but not really no)

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(I said yes because I get them constantly)

sterile bane
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is it smart to do a shade of orobyss without studying a how to first?

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do high health enemy modifiers apply to shade or bosses?

latent canyon
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Yes and yes. Early corruption shade is not very threatening

sterile bane
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i have to get rid of some of these modifiers

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ohh wow that wasnt bad

pearl plank
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Connection problem I've been having while playing with a friend: can't warp anywhere, just has an infinite loading saying "Entering blah blah blah"

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It gets fixed if I restart the game but it happens every 5 minutes

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I open the game again and two or three portals work then it gets stuck and I have to restart

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Anyone have the same thing?

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Or a fix

wide sentinel
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if not then you are f'ed

faint cape
sterile bane
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i did get help but we will see on the second round how it goes, if i do one

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how do ppl do 1000+cc

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primalist can channel??

faint cape
knotty tinsel
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and if it didn't you'd see the affix anyway lol

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looking at you, increased spell crit chance on rogue relics

faint cape
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Hey now, rogue can trigger spells

knotty tinsel
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most of which are... on crit

latent canyon
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but youd want the triggered spell to also crit XD

knotty tinsel
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ah yes of course my bad, I better separately stack attack and spell crit

latent canyon
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low key tho. low life BD is op af. 24% flat crit hello.

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not only you get more defense you also get free crit. poggers

knotty tinsel
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free crit is indeed poggers

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harvest OP

pearl plank
latent canyon
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dicovering low life is good is very interesting tho.

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tested 6 builds right after. technically i tested like 8 of them. 2 not listed here

toxic anvil
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How does low life work?

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There a node that stops regen?

latent canyon
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Last step of living+exsanguinous

toxic anvil
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What are those?

latent canyon
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Typically a four piece combo. Last step+exsanguinous+building hp for ward regen.
Frostbite shackles+strands of souls+stacking cold res for ward retention

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Uniques

toxic anvil
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Oh 😭

sterile bane
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isnt there an item that says if your life is below your ward you gain something?

toxic anvil
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That’s the one thing I don’t like about the game lol

latent canyon
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Its meant to be a high end build

sterile bane
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hey tomorrow is stream night

toxic anvil
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Building hp for ward regen?

faint cape
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yeah, the new weaver ring - haven't messed with LL since it was released, though

latent canyon
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But getting the base uniques you can also have a functional pretty equivalent build vs not going low life

pastel pebble
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Not all ward stacking is just via building HP. But its fairly reliable with those items

latent canyon
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We are talking about low life here sir.

toxic anvil
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Is ward worth it with most low cost builds?

knotty tinsel
faint cape
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but has potential if you're stacking mana and sit on an empty mana globe... if sentinel had some good LL stuff, I'd totally use it on devotion

latent canyon
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Low cost of what. Skills or gear

toxic anvil
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Gear

pastel pebble
toxic anvil
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Yep

latent canyon
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Yes. Specifically on primalist and bladedancer tho

latent canyon
toxic anvil
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Was asking about ward in general

latent canyon
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Ohh cool

sterile bane
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but seriously how crazy is doing 1000+cc. do you have to use zoom zoom build to do that?

latent canyon
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Not too crazy

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There are 25 builds that have done it with real players. Strictly powerlevel speaking there are probably at least a few dozens more that can also do it

faint cape
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it's definitely harder to zoom at that level of corruption

latent canyon
toxic anvil
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Is it worth is over health?

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Like it’s not mit right?

latent canyon
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Depends on how you obtain ward.

toxic anvil
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Whereas health scales endurance thresh also

knotty tinsel
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"is ward worth it over health" is a question that's different for each build and class and player

latent canyon
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Twisted heart and low life builds gets ward from converting hp to ward so you'd wanna build both

toxic anvil
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Right yeah

latent canyon
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For other architypes hp is way less important when ward is your primary defense

toxic anvil
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Like is it worth over like armor or other defensive layers?

latent canyon
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No. They work together

faint cape
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Main differences are ward has no leech or endurance, but usually you can get higher values

toxic anvil
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Ah ok

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Ward gain and retention are weird lmao

sterile bane
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what does ward do? does it prevent you from dying ot does it lower hits?

latent canyon
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Armor and dodge and generic DR and glacing blows and block are the only ways to protect your ward.(excluding res cuz everyone builds res)

toxic anvil
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Like it’s not like poe with energy shield

faint cape
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ward is just blue health

latent canyon
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Just as how it also protects your hp

pastel pebble
latent canyon
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So with ward you'd ideally wanna have other defense layers to amplify it

toxic anvil
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Why can’t we just get flat ward on items and skills 😭

latent canyon
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You can

toxic anvil
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Not this retention crap lmao

pastel pebble
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We have some ward per sec stuff

latent canyon
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But numbers are low

faint cape
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only things that don't work to protect ward are things that specifically protect health, which I think are just endurance and damage to health taken by mana

pastel pebble
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Retention crap is important!

toxic anvil
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Was talking about in general

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Lmao nahhhhhhhh

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I wish it worked similarly to health

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Sorry similarly to poe energy shield

faint cape
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mechanically speaking, there's no reason to have a second health bar

latent canyon
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Then it wouldn't be fun.

faint cape
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that behaves identically

pastel pebble
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I kinda prefer it this way. Gives it its own identity

toxic anvil
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Fair enough

knotty tinsel
toxic anvil
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It’s weird to understand tho

toxic anvil
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Cause I don’t completely understand how it works lol

pastel pebble
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Torgor has a good point

faint cape
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You can get 100% health damage taken as mana, and then you basically have PoE energy shield lol

sterile bane
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so what does ward do?

toxic anvil
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Lol

knotty tinsel
latent canyon
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Wdym for free sir

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Takes a lot of affixes

knotty tinsel
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which you have bcs no health scaling so it's pretty fair

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the affixes that is. not sure of endurance on mana as a concept is fair

pastel pebble
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Isn't it a bug?

latent canyon
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when you see what low life builds do

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you will understand why its fair

faint cape
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endurance should not affect your mana, if there's any case where it does, that's a bug

latent canyon
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if damage to mana and endurance is a bug then low life is way way way too strong

native sail
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I mean, it's not intentional

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Mike said multiple times endurance should not affect damage to mana

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But it does

latent canyon
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low life gets 1-2x dmg to mana ehp and very high passive regen

native sail
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Therefore

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Unintentional

pastel pebble
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Fuck it just buff Sentinel more to balance it all out

toxic anvil
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Lol

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How does ward regen work in general?

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I know retention drops the decay rate

sterile bane
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Once damage is taken the amount is subtracted from

The characters Ward
Percent dealt to mana equal to the Damage Dealt to Mana Before Health modifier
The characters Health

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so its blue health

pastel pebble
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No mana is blue health

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Ward is ghosty health

latent canyon
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if you are talking about builds with a static ward regen source then your max ward can be calculated with a formula

native sail
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Health with no leech/endurance and weird mechanics for upkeep.

faint cape
# toxic anvil How does ward regen work in general?

The more ward you have, the more ward you lose per second, so eventually you reach a steady state. When you take a hit, you'll get up to an okay amount of ward really fast, but it takes a long time to fully recover without ward generating skills

native sail
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Otherwise pretty much identical

latent canyon
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like vessel of stryfe builds, low life builds, regular ward per sec builds

knotty tinsel
pastel pebble
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Its all identical until it isn't

knotty tinsel
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ravenous void is the grimace gloves

pastel pebble
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Torgor I will kill you

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Keep that shit OUTTA HERE

knotty tinsel
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you take a sip when you hit endurance threshold

pastel pebble
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Mods! Mods!!

knotty tinsel
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turn your hp into grimace hp and then die to DoT

sterile bane
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but it says that if you get hit and you have ward it takes from the ward first, so if you have crazy amount of ward you wont die

faint cape
latent canyon
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0.4 x (max ward) / (1+0.5*ward retention)=total ward per sec

latent canyon
sterile bane
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all im asking is if the way those low life builds work is because tehy rely on ward and maybe mana damage so they survive more even though they have low health?

latent canyon
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low life builds takes heavy investments in uniques. it is virtually impossible to have both going

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you can but then you either will have a low hp pool(which hurts your ward per sec) a low mana pool(which makes dmg to mana ineffective) or a low ward retention number. basically by branching out it makes your build worse

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low life builds are also pretty equivelent to just building hp if you dont have a lot of LP gear with selective affixes to support it, if you do tho thats when it scales way beyond building hp.

faint cape
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If you run 100% health damage to mana on a low life build, yeah sure, but to get that to 100% you cannot have ward

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that actually might be funny, a low life 100% damage to mana build lol - but I guess mage doesn't really have anything to benefit from being on low life to make it interesting

latent canyon
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that lives only in offline save editing land

dense root
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isn’t 100% damage to mana worse than like 90% or something

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i haven’t done the math but i assume it’s actively good to have your hp regen and leech constantly be applying to some of the incoming damage rather than only after you’re completely out of mana

faint cape
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for normal builds probably worse yeah, but for one relying on taking no health damage nope

dense root
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i guess if you’re low life sure

sterile bane
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so how do low life builds survive?

dense root
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ward

latent canyon
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large ward pool. and high passive regen number

sterile bane
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ok so they rely on ward not mana damage or watheer it is

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got it

latent canyon
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those are usually mutually exclusive defensive options yea

sterile bane
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i do see mike run around with quite a bit of ward, or at least to me it is

latent canyon
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thats because he was playing a spellblade/sorc?

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the coc metoer i assume

toxic anvil
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Does armor shred and elem shred apply before dmg?

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And I assume elem pen applies before

faint cape
toxic anvil
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got it

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what is cap for block chance?

dense root
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100

toxic anvil
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wait fr?

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is that tough to get?

dense root
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yes

buoyant sinew
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but not impossible

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face of the mountain or bulwark of the last abyss with lp can get you there

latent canyon
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Or cradle

buoyant sinew
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oh yeah sorry I still need to properly learn 0.9.1 uniques

latent canyon
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Cradle on max roll is 76% block for the first hit. So t7 block chance get you to 102%. Or you be a sentinel and get there easier

toxic anvil
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Lmao yikes

latent canyon
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Its worse than it sounds due to block not affecting dot also block effectiveness is another consideration

safe harness
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I hate how most defensive layers are only for hit

pastel pebble
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I think they may be expanding ways to mitigate DoT more in some cases. IK we just got more items for it

latent canyon
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They can add low life support to all classes then everyone magically can get a large hp pool vs dot

pastel pebble
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Lmfao

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Wardguard dreams really do come true!