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[sterile bane]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[shrewd owl]

thanks. ill ask there too.

its not support though. thats why i put it here to ask

[surreal verge]

Known bug that the devs are working to fix.

[shrewd owl]

ah wonderful thanks for the confirmation.

[cedar locust]

Judd is currently in game chat and has confirmed the team is working on it now and they hope to have a fix in and pushed out today!

[vernal burrow]

Hey I’m starting to stream the game on kick, what should I do if I want to announce it on here.

[vernal burrow]

Yay

[faint cape]

Pretty sure it's automatic as long as you are tagged as LE and assuming the platform is supported

[cedar locust]

Not sure if Kick is tracked but I can ask - I know twitch is

[thin tinsel]

if i were to use this as a rogue, the only way to get more blockchance would be with +block on rings right?

[native sail]

Correct

[thin tinsel]

and t7 block on ring was 4% if i remember right?

[native sail]

I think 5%?

[thin tinsel]

thx 🙂 hmm so at max 38% block chance, sad

[latent canyon]

and gloves

[thin tinsel]

oh, also 4% max? but oh well gloves is tricky anway from what i have seen, because the good throwing stuff is also there, also uniques like liark or how its called

[latent canyon]

Well im just giving you ideas. You decide the execution

[knotty tinsel]

play sentinel and get more 😛

[thin tinsel]

oh thats fine i appreciate it 🙂

[thin tinsel]

sentinel has no shurikens tho 😛 im also just theorycrafting, havent really lvlt a rogue yet

[latent canyon]

But then you lose out all the rogue values

[knotty tinsel]

rogue has no values

[surreal verge]

Who was the madman that tried this unique on sentinel again

(Which worked, but the unique itself is meh)

[desert tree]

@sinful laurel did one, don't know if you are thinking about him

[surreal verge]

It's probably primeval honestly.

[sinful laurel]

I'm a madman, what did I do?

[surreal verge]

Bo's anarchy on sentinel

Didn't you fuck around with that for a bit

[sinful laurel]

Oh yeah I did. Dont do the direct damage version but smite proccing warpath VK would be nutso

[next root]

Is there any workaround for the stuck in "loading echo" bug? Or do I just have to ALT-F4 and try again? 😄

[vale lake]

Lagon blessing on a fireball ignite sorc, which generates ward through uhkeiros and ashes of mortality, what would you pick ? I picked health regen, went from a whooping 18 to 41, but I'm pretty sure nothing else is worth there ? Stun chance ?

[exotic idol]

Honestly man just wait for the Patch or lvl an alt, it happens so often that its not worth doing Echos rn.

[candid elm]

I usually take Lightning Resistance. There's 13 options from Ending the Storm:
Cold Damage,
Freeze Rate Multiplier,
Lightning Resistance,
Lightning Damage,
Shred Lightning Resist,
Health Regen,
Mana,
Stun Chance,
Shock on Hit,
Shock Duration,
Ward on Potion Use,
Ward when Hit,
Ward per Second.

[vale lake]

I don't need the light res

And I know the options, just wondering, there's really nothing outstanding for my build, so was seeking some input

[buoyant trench]

Been leveling a fireball/meteor sorc build for a fire build.

Any advice for other sorc fire spell builds?

[drowsy hornet]

Does anyone know if the seasons/cycles will play like d3 and have season only perks?

[native sail]

Doubt it because they're adding any content that comes with them to standard at the same time

[faint cape]

If you can't get great use out of any, and you're a hit build, I'd just say get stun

I know you said you do ignites, but it might help still

[vale lake]

I'll try, I already stun sometimes since I spam so many fireballs, hence why I included it, just not sure what is the blessing worth overall, clueless about stun and how it works

[knotty tinsel]

I don't really know a way to phrase my question about this other than "huh?"

Spirit plague is not a hit spell it just applies the ailment of the same name. so this make sthe ailment stronger?

[native sail]

Yeah, it just adds damage to it. Same way Lich's Envy adds flat damage to Infernal Shade.

[knotty tinsel]

interesting, seems pretty good

apart from the whole you either get death seal or ward thing making Int not so good

[boreal venture]

can you repesc passives?

[native sail]

Yup. Brain NPC in towns.

[boreal venture]

omg

thank the lord

[native sail]

You cannot change mastery, just a heads up. If you picked Paladin that character is always a Paladin. But you can respec everything else.

[faint cape]

Stun is really quite good. If you can reliably stun things, they will just be completely incapable of doing almost anything. This is pretty easy to achieve with hit builds against everything that isn't stun immune or a timeline/dungeon boss, depending on how high you want to push corruption. When not scaling the hit damage, you'll have a harder time getting to that level, but extra stun chance still helps.

[candid elm]

Math on Stun is over here https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/stun

[surreal verge]

Or you can take light res and rework your equip to not need light res,thats a thing as well

[jagged inlet]

im brand new. just hit level 52 primalist. i wanna try cold dot werebear. can I just run it as is with little gear and build into a nice build or is there certain pieces/breakpoints i should have in place prior to switching? im currently doing maxrolls swarmblade/werebear build and its a bit of a nuisance to run

[buoyant sinew]

you can run cold dot werebear on no gear, yes. the main thing you need is enough rage generation to stay in werebear form, which all comes from points in the werebear form skill tree. if you have enough levels to get all that rage stuff you're all good to transition

well I suppose that + the vines on maul node in werebear

[jagged inlet]

ok cool. sadly id have to respec the werebear tree so I guess itll be a bit of a struggle till i get those points back but that shouldnt take too long

[buoyant sinew]

nah should be pretty quick

[jagged inlet]

sounds good. thx for the help!

[vernal burrow]

Yeah that would be nice

I want to announce when I stream the game on kick

[median oxide]

Ok, so I did the quest chain to advance the level of my Echos, but they are still level 58...

What gives?

I even selected the higher level upgrade

[surreal verge]

You unlocked a new monolith.

There should be a bridge you can interact with now, that leads you to another monolith.

[median oxide]

oh

Ah, there we go, yeah, didn't realize

[ivory prairie]

Hi, I just started playing LE and wonder about forging, when do you start forging and what? I am lvl 17 now and never forged so far.

[surreal verge]

Whenever.

Shards you'll normally use for affixes are common drops.

If it gets you an upgrade, craft it.

[ivory prairie]

I see, thank you

[marble oriole]

Anyone play with a controller? (Xbox for example) I'm not able to remap keys in-game, the game keeps switching between controller and Keyboard/Mouse inputs... is the game just not ready for full controller support?

[vale lake]

Yeah, not an option, trust me I thought about it

[surreal verge]

Then mana, ward per second, hp regen, or stun I guess.

[latent canyon]

I didn't bother interacting with it until i was in like chp8

[thin tinsel]

there is no reason to keep more then one of those i guess?

[dense root]

to show off

[thin tinsel]

also can someone give me a ELI5 of "more"?

[dense root]

more is multiplicative

[thin tinsel]

👀

[dense root]

so if you have 10% more you multiply the number by 1.1

[thin tinsel]

but... which number? is it more of the increased armour in this case or more of the flat or both? i dont get it ._.

like in a simple example:

[dense root]

it’s after increases

[thin tinsel]

lets say i have 100 flat armour

and 20% increased, that would make 120

in that case how do i factor in this idol

[dense root]

your armor is your flat armor * all your increases added together * your more

[thin tinsel]

so i would apply it to the 120 then?

[dense root]

yes

[thin tinsel]

alright thx 🙂

[sterile bane]

how big is update?

[surreal verge]

30mb download

[sterile bane]

ohh ok. my internet is slow so it took 3 mins just to realize it was a 30mb download

can someone link me a beastmaster build guide for squirrels or anything else thats viable?

[tired helm]

Hopefully this is what you're asking/looking for: https://www.lastepochtools.com/builds/filter/mastery=beastmaster&item=UAwFgjGDsBMQ

[faint cape]

"More" always multiplies the final total value. It is the only scaling that does not have diminishing returns.

[candid elm]

There's also one on maxroll. Works fine until you get the Herald of the Scurry helmet https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/squirrel-beastmaster-guide

[sterile bane]

this thing is geared to the max

[tender kayak]

but why tho lmao ?

[thin tinsel]

because i am a hoarder 😄 but already sold all but 2 of them

[sterile bane]

when trading comes cna i get one?

[thin tinsel]

dude, its not that rare just do the boss a few times, why wait months for it lol

but sure if you pay enough why not 😄

[sterile bane]

since its that easy ill give you 10gold

[buoyant trench]

What's better for clearing for a mage sorc cold build: cold Static orb, or ice barrage?

[sterile bane]

isnt there a game where your character and gear automatically uploads to a site so everyone can see it, if you make it public?

[slate turret]

can I get Reign of Winter (bow that drops from monolith end boss only) from Runes of Ascendance?

[knotty tinsel]

boss only drop means can't be in a rune of ascendance.

[slate turret]

ok, thanks

[vernal burrow]

So what happened, maybe I should go to ask the devs not support?

[boreal venture]

should i just go for empowered monos? because ive been farming reign of dragons for this fulgrite shard for 4 days

like whats the big difference between normal and emporwed

[sinful laurel]

You should always play in empowered if you can.

[faint cape]

Empowered has higher LP chance and higher unique drop chance, so definitely way better

[sinful laurel]

Faster stability, more unique/set and exalted nodes, better experience, higher tier blessings. All around way better

[boreal venture]

oh ok

cause i have been slaving away at reign of dragons

for far to long

😭

[sinful laurel]

Yeah. Def do that in empowered. Still no guarantee you get the dagger lol, but better hedging your bets

[faint cape]

Yup, andd slap some runes of ascendance on some daggers if you can, there are very few daggers, so your odds are really high

assuming you just need a 0 LP one to start at least

[sinful laurel]

Oh also that!!! Very good chance of fulgurite!

Inb4 9 acid flask daggers in a row 🙂

[boreal venture]

well

that never happend with em

whats a good way to even get them

ive gotten one in my life time

after 6 lightless arbor

espically since it isnt extra runes i need another way to farm them

[sinful laurel]

Rune reward echoes for where you're at

[boreal venture]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-rain-gif-23391878

[sterile bane]

you have to pass lvl 90 mono before you can do empowered right?

[near path]

You have to do the 3 level 90 monos at the top right

[sterile bane]

well thats not happening for a while

[near path]

Doesn't take that long

[sterile bane]

i can still barely do lvl 75 and i havent defeaed lvl 66 boss

[near path]

You don't have to do all the others

Just have to keep unlocking the higher lvl monos in dialogue choices till you reach the top right island

Then all 3 of those are unlocked at once, just do them

That unlocks Empowered Monos across the board, even for monos you haven't done

This stuff really should be in the In-Game Guide idk why it isn't there, considering how important it is

[sterile bane]

i still have to get to lvl 90+ im still 79/80

because ppl dont read

well off to work

[near path]

The monos aren't level dependent

It's not like you need to be lv 100 to do empowered Monos, if that's what you're thinking

[vagrant elbow]

do i understand correctly that ailments cant have more base dmg in any case, but for example does % increase in physical dmg increase bleed dmg? 🤔

[sinful laurel]

In most cases correct, ailments can't get increased base flat damage. Also yes correct, physical boosts bleed

[vagrant elbow]

alright thanks! 👍

[spark yacht]

Man, everytime I read any guide I feel like my gear is progressively getting worse, every item slot is basically exalted flat/%life with sealed resist

No wonder i cant clear emp monos on 1.4k hp when recommended is 3k

[cedar locust]

Sorry, I did ask in the wrap-up though those can get big! 😅 I'll ask again separately - not sure if Mike will know anything about CouchBots set up.

You can manually share a link to your streams in both #🎥┃video-shoutout and #🔴┃livestream-shoutout as far as I know though!

(Just saw Mike responded! Apologies I wasn't online when you asked, but glad you got an answer!)

[deft shadow]

Once oyu cna do monos is there any reason from a player power perspective to finish the campaign?

[sharp quartz]

If you have gotten the maximum idol slots and passive points then there is no reason to do the campaign farther if you dont want to.

[desert tree]

you can get +1 all attribute by completing the last act

[sharp quartz]

oops.. forgot about that one..

[deft shadow]

gotcfha thank you

[desert tree]

but you can go run your monos and come back when you are overleveled compare to the area and its much easier

[deft shadow]

haha works for me

[burnt pike]

guys im looking for a way to trigger the "hit with melee" part of Apogee https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzBsCYE5yA

without needing to exit spriggan form

[little yacht]

so I just entered a dungeon for the first time, lightless arbor in this case... Cleared the trash mobs until I got to a new area with a new modifier, destroyed some branches and then nothing happened and since I was trapped there I tp'ed out and ended up losing the key. What was I supposed to do again? Is it a bug or did I just miss something completely obvious?

[surreal verge]

You should have moved past it and there should be a door foward

[little yacht]

I couldn't, because there were some more branch obstacles blocking the way

tried destroying them, teleporting through, no luck

I saw the door on the map but the path was completely blocked

[cedar locust]

Was this in one of your last two game loads?

[little yacht]

wdym? @cedar locust

[knotty tinsel]

you did try to destroy the branches with your torch friend right, not slapping em?

[little yacht]

I lost my torch as soon as I entered the new area

[surreal verge]

What?

It should be still with you

[little yacht]

well, it wasn't :S

[cedar locust]

When you load LE, the game generates a player.log file though only two are saved - so if you need to report a bug with your player.log files it needs to be in the last two loads of the game

[little yacht]

that's why I'm confused

[surreal verge]

That crystal should be there until the boss I think

[desert tree]

Since spriggan form does not have any melee attack... It's going to be very hard

[burnt pike]

yes, that is the problem. melee vines do not trigger it

[desert tree]

You can send it on your mouse

And call it back

[desert tree]

Yeah, vines are not you

[little yacht]

I'm on the same session (logging) so it should be good on that front

[little yacht]

That makes sense, thing is I only had those targettable branches, no torch, then another branch completely impossible to destroy or get through, if that's a mechanic attached to the torch that explains why I wasnt able to move past it: there was no torch

[cedar locust]

Awesome! If it turns out, after talking with other players here, this is actually a bug then please report it to the Bug Forum here : https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/bug-reports/23

Here's a Player.log file Guide :
https://support.lastepoch.com/hc/en-us/articles/1260805192629-The-Game-s-Log-File

[little yacht]

Thank you

[surreal verge]

Technically you just need to stand on the branch long enough for it to catch fire and get you a path

[cedar locust]

TIL the super react button is very close to the regular react button XD

[tired helm]

Hmm…looks like my super react has a limit, currently 4 super reacts remaining, and it’s global across all of discord 🤔

[knotty tinsel]

it's intentional to get you to use them up XD

[cedar locust]

Same - though I'm sure I've used like 3 accidentally so far XD

[knotty tinsel]

I don't really see the point of em.

[tired helm]

Well that’s some bull poop LMFAO

So I removed the super react thinking I’d get a usage back? Nope! My remaining super react count is still 4 😂😂😂

[knotty tinsel]

If it's any consolation I haven't talked to a single soul that actually cares or uses them intentionally

[native sail]

On it!

There ya go

[tired helm]

Yeah just for shits and giggles I’m trying to see where my super react usage history is while on the mobile app…

Doesn’t seem to be readily available like how you can see which servers you’ve boosted.

Ah there we go! Just figured out how they work

[native sail]

[thin tinsel]

this is only useful if you convert meteor to lightningt right? or is there any other benefit from this node

and does this work with harbringer of star triggers? it doesnt say direct cast so it should right?

[surreal verge]

Even then you can only have one instance of this.

[surreal verge]

If you add flat spell damage-

[thin tinsel]

yeah i know but one is better then none^^

[surreal verge]

My bet's on no, but tbh idk.

[thin tinsel]

you mean like flat spell dmg from a wand for example?

[surreal verge]

Wands give adaptive no? Those wouldn't work

[thin tinsel]

oh, so more like the flat dmg that you get in the necro tree for minions?

[surreal verge]

For example I guess?

[thin tinsel]

or this maybe?

this would add it to comet and get increased by the node?

[desert tree]

Yep

Or spell void from the community spear

😉

[thin tinsel]

well that one wouldnt fit in my build but yeah hmm that could be another cool use o.o

[median garden]

For say fireball.

Is +elemental damage % and +spell damage % and +fire damage % (as long as no mods are changing it) all functionally the same? As in 10% of whatever will basically give me the same increase in dps?

[vale lake]

Yes, the mods themselves will roll different ranges, IE elemental damage affects more damage type so roll lower than most, spell and fire damage are the same iirc, both rolling higher than elemental damage, because they're a bit more specific

[median garden]

is there any diminishing or anything as in a reason I would ever want elemental damage % if I can get spell% or fire% instead (if say I have a full fire build)

also, when you use the rune that upgrades an item into a random unique of the same type. Can those items have any LP and if so is it just 100% random or based on your level or anything?

the LP i mean, i assume what you get is 100% random

[vale lake]

Rune : What you get is random but weighted, rarer unique are harder to get, and I remember reading somewhere here that you have a lower chance for LP than dropping it
No particular diminishing returns related to stacking the same source of increased damage, virtually, 50% increased elemental damage is gonna be the exact same on your fireball damage as 50% increased fire damage

[median garden]

I was thinking of trying for this, any 2h staff would work right?

ok cool thanks, I got like 5 of those upgrade runes but Im not really sure what to use them on. I got a fireball/meteor build going thats doing ok in empowered atm. I guess the worst thing is I only have about 1600 health

[vale lake]

And yes, items base doesn't matter, any staff can turn into Aergon (if it's not a boss drop, don't know for aergon on the top of ym head)

[vale lake]

Tends to be harder to get health on mage but tends to be easier to stack Ward

[median garden]

this is what the wiki says and I still need the one idol anyway that gets stacks from fire spells so I was thinking of just target farming that area for awhile instead

Effective Level for Legendary Potential: 70
Timeline to target farm: The Stolen Lance ("Unique or Set Staff or Sceptre" echo rewards)
Random Drop (Very rare)

[vale lake]

My fireball ignite sorc is always at ~1.5k ward minimum, goes up to 5k vs bosses

[median garden]

nice mine is more damage focused but I do wanna try an affliction type build eventually. Fireballs can stack them FAST

[surreal verge]

empowered monoliths recommended

[vale lake]

What he said, you wanna unlock empowered as fast as possible

[median garden]

yeah thats all I do now but good catch

[vale lake]

Cinder song + the right nodes on a 150% cast speed mini with higher on some procs, not meta or broken in any way but it's fun

[median garden]

neat I wrote off cinder song bc of its low spell damage but I guess if youre going for the ignite damage it makes sense

[wide sentinel]

elemental damage is for skills that have several elements, its useless for anything else

cause lower values than 1 element affix or spell dmg

[median garden]

gotcha makes sense

[boreal venture]

brooo how do i beat chambers of ruin

this boss is crazy

[pastel pebble]

A little sustain goes a long way

[vestal path]

is there a specific "best" way to farm gold?

i wanna gamble a little on arbor

[boreal venture]

nvm

i went crazy

im a goat

but what does helemt shard rate mean

[pastel pebble]

Shards specific tp helmets are more likely to drop

[wide sentinel]

no

[vestal path]

bummer ^^

takes a good long while to get enough money to beef up the arbor caches

[desert tree]

Well gold blessing + running all the gold echoes

[vestal path]

yeh prolly should go and get the blessing

trying to farm up a bastion tho ugh ^^

[scarlet bolt]

Hi, i am working on a multishot build rn, and i was wondering if any of you know if the multishot proced by Fusillade can proc Back to Back

[sinful laurel]

Yes fusillade can proc double shots

It just casts multishot from your tree

[scarlet bolt]

nice then i will def pick that one up ty

[thin tinsel]

guys did the devs say something about lost knowledge not working on things like harbringer of stars? i feel like read something about that a long time ago that they are gonna discuss this internally or something

[native sail]

"when you use"

Triggered abilties are never used

[thin tinsel]

i am not talking about this as a bug

[native sail]

follows the rules of everything else, I don't see why they'd rework this one thing

[thin tinsel]

its actually pretty inconsistent, not that it matters because the reason i am asking is I said i think they already talked about it but here some examples:

this says cast, doesnt get triggered by meteors that i CAST on crit with harbringer of stars

this explicitly says DIRECTLY CAST

[native sail]

"when you cast" is the inconsistent term. I know of no inconsistences with "when you use a skill"

[thin tinsel]

and i am sure there are many more

but i am using a skill, jus not directly

[native sail]

I understand what you mean, but the terms are different and likely coded differently as well

[thin tinsel]

i just think it can use some polish over all and i know they will get there, but like i said in this case i am more interested if they adressed it and if its gonna stay that way with lost knowledge 😄 i guess i will dive into the search bar

[native sail]

Gotcha. My bad on the initial interpretation for sure though. Lemme know what you find though, if anything. I'd be interested to see if it changes.

[thin tinsel]

hmm seems like mike adressed it one time and it at least works how its intended(not proccing from harbringer comets for example) but i couldnt find any talks if they tought about changing it, maybe i will ask myself later :/

or better i think i will just make it in suggestions

[native sail]

Out of curiosity, you mentioned the new nova chest, does that trigger with the tele-nova for some reason?

[thin tinsel]

havent tested it but i wish it would, i actually made that as a suggestion as well lol

because it shouldnt work if the text is right

[native sail]

I don't think I have a mage leveled high enough to use it

[thin tinsel]

already testing it 😄

[faint cape]

I'd say, if nothing else, report the wrongly worded things in #tooltip-hunt

[thin tinsel]

well nope, it doesnt work like i tought 😦

[faint cape]

If someone wanted to get really serious, they could compile ALL uses of that kind of wording and the behavior of each. That would be better for a forum post, though.

[thin tinsel]

i mean i am fine with helping them to improve the game but THAT seems more like something they would need to pay me to do 😄

[faint cape]

Yeah, that's a bit too serious for me

[icy drift]

I've found that practically no "cast" mechanics work with triggered spells, i treat it more as a default negative unless it explicitly says otherwise

Even stuff like mana spent gained as ward doesn't work, and that doesn't even have usage or casting of skills at all in the wording

[wheat saddle]

i think it means that you didnt cast it directly, it got casted off somethingelse

like its a proc

tbh if im bothered oneday id love to try unstable core

[hushed dune]

Just start end game i want to ask should i build cold dot bear or lighting bear

[sterile bane]

i spent a day without playing and i feel like this

https://tenor.com/view/dave-chappelle-need-gif-21451408

[near path]

So I've got a silly question. I am terrible at the T4 Julra fight. I have characters that should be able to do it easily with their gear (Swipe Bear, Anvil Rive, Smite Hammerdin) but I fuck it up one way or another. Can someone kindly tell me some foolproof strategies I can practice to kill her?

The biggest problem I find is that the lightning shots from the towers are near invisible while arming, and they inevitably whittle me down. Also it's a bit hard to stay in melee range while dodging her AoE blasts and water breath

Realm shifting to take out the towers makes her spawn those stupid degen pools which are just insane

[native sail]

Personally, I try not to stay in the era where the towers actually shoot at you, I find them too much of a risk

[near path]

Hmmm.. so deal with 1 pool spawn and stay in the other era where you can kill them?

[native sail]

Yup. That's what I usually do. The pools are rough, I honestly think they're a little too rough. I can do them, I just don't think that they're well tuned atm since they chunk through health so quickly and the only solutions to them are to hit a potion or "just use a movement skill lol"

[near path]

Yeah. Also those rotating beams have an insane hit box

It's a very melee unfriendly fight I feel (what else is new in ARPGs)

[native sail]

Oooooh yeah. That's why I'm a ranged player more often, can't believe they put that in the game

[near path]

I made a Hammerdin specifically to kill her

And the damage is very much there

Just the gameplay

[native sail]

Overall she's a combination of a "skill" check (more of a "how quickly can you move out of the way" thing) and a build check (can you take a couple ticks of the pools and not get one shot by her other moves)

I definitely think the fight could use some tweaks though

[near path]

Trying to fight her on Rive felt ass

At least Werebear can yoink her

Rive can't even do that

[native sail]

never in my life will I try this

[pastel pebble]

Yeah, Rive feels rough fightinf her

[wheat saddle]

julra is easy

you want to just be melee 24/7 becuase its easier to track her attacks that way

the thing that you might get hit by when you do that is just the ranged water attack thing

and before you attack after the 2nd countdown blast, just wait a little bit becuase the pillars/turret will line up a lightning attack

she casts a circle aoe lightning attack before that about twice also, which you can just dodge easily if you pay attention to it

if youre right next to her its a lot easier to dodge the cone ice blast

during 2nd countdown, tele straight away to kill 3 pillars so that you have easier time

thats it really

just dont switch out when youre not supposed to

and just switch as fast as possible

if you switch out slower than you should or rather, run out of time; she'll teleport to you and you'll get hit by pool

if you do all these things i mentioned that pool should NEVER exist at all

the pool exist if you fuck up your rotation

the only class that i think can be hard vs julra is just bladedancer cause shift distance is really annoying

[quartz blaze]

yeah with julra you gotta learn to dodge her attacks. they are all easily dodgeable, you shouldn't be hit with a single one. If you're having a hard time with the 3 shrine attacks just swap era and kill them. The only thing is to remember to stage on edge after u swap era, always leave the void pool on edges. the entire fight otherwise should be near center

[wheat saddle]

you also want to make sure that julra is on the spot between the orb during laser

[quartz blaze]

low dps just makes julra annoying bc of a long fight, but you shouldn't really be dying ever.

[wheat saddle]

if you do that, then the orb/laser wont block your projectile

[quartz blaze]

bc you can dodge everything

[wheat saddle]

i purposely put her in the space/between

the rotating beam is fking easy as fuck

you just need to practice

it doesnt have insane hitbox

[carmine wind]

Does anyone know if attribute scaling gets effected by damage scaling? For example Devouring Orb has 200% added damage scaling and it also gets +2 void spell damage per vitality. Does 1 vitality give it 4 void spell damage or 2?

[surreal verge]

The latter.

[worthy wave]

Hey guys, is there an area during the campaign that is better for the exp gain (e.g good density.. etc, etc)?

[glad nimbus]

Hi, offline wont work anymore, anyone have a tip I can try? Server side issues?

[faint cape]

It's added damage, so it's affected by 'added damage effectiveness'. Only base damage is not affected.

[surreal verge]

It should be working as intended.

[glad nimbus]

If I rename my saves folder it works again but I lose my entire stash though 😦

[faint cape]

The only server issue that can prevent offline mode from working is if you can't log in. Sounds like a corrupted save, potentially?

[glad nimbus]

Could be corrupted, PC crashed... So I guess all my chars are gone now 😦

[faint cape]

With some effort, it's possibly repairable, but I wouldn't know how to do that

if you have steam cloud saves, you might be able to rollback some? not sure on that

[glad nimbus]

Let me scrath around there are steam cloud saves

[cedar locust]

That's definitely worth reaching out to our Support team for! You can submit a new ticket here : https://support.lastepoch.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[glad nimbus]

So, I found .bak files in the saves folder

Deleted all the non bak files -> renamed and its all good again

[glad nimbus]

Well characters are back but stash is empty .... cries into hands

[cedar locust]

Oh I am so sorry - please do reach out to Support! They may not be able to restore your items though letting them know this happened so they can look into it might help stop it happening to another player

[glad nimbus]

I will log a ticket 👍

[slender loom]

I play offline mainly. The only time I've enjoyed playing online was when I played aura support in PoE. Is there anything like that in Last Epoch? A class that significantly boosts the survivability and/or DPS of allies? I know about paladin aura but I don't konw if that's really enough.

[surreal verge]

That's about it.

At best, pair that with judgement aura and you can heal AND do damage.

[slender loom]

judgment aura keeps the healing? that's an idea

I was thinking of doing warpath/rebuke tanky channeling or something so I can tank for peeps if needed

[desert tree]

Javelin banner for healing and Inc dmg too

[surreal verge]

The damage SCALES with healing effectiveness as well btw.

[slender loom]

that sounds like a good direction to go in

thanks, I'll look into that

[desert tree]

Sigils of hope applies to your allies too

If they play fire dmg it's very sweet

[slender loom]

is the consecrated aura permanent? or do I still need to recast it?

[desert tree]

Recast

[slender loom]

DoT affects consecrated aura, yes? So if I get the "%ignite chance" on sigils, fire DoT would work for incerasing the damage of both?

[surreal verge]

Con aura isn't ignite.

So no for ignite chance

[knotty tinsel]

consecrated ground/aura is a fire dot area spell. since it doesn't hit , it won't apply ignite.

(not sure it has a way to do so via the tree either.)

[slender loom]

no the sigil of hope node that gives everyone ignite chance

oh, nvm I'm being dumb. Allies will be making the ignite so it'll use their stats

[surreal verge]

Aura isn't hit, so ignite chance wouldn't help you either even if it applied

[slender loom]

the DoT, not ignite chance

I'm just thinking of what stats I should gear for to do damage myself

but I think I'm just gonna see if I can pull off a support build

[surreal verge]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

Yes fire dot would improve both con aura and ignites, yes.

[desert tree]

Ele dot, attunement,

[knotty tinsel]

attunement => healing effectiveness, some spell damage, some increased damage that applies like elemental over time and fire.

[slender loom]

people on hardcore should appreciate some guy coming into games and increasing their defences as well as healing them, yes?

[knotty tinsel]

people on hardcore know better than to rely on someone else for their survivability 😛

but the more the better

[slender loom]

a little extra always helps

[surreal verge]

You may or may not need to pull your weight because of the hp scaling tho.

[slender loom]

is there a way to modify how much "+3 fire damage to allies" is given by sigils? does %inc fire dmg give them more?

[surreal verge]

No

[slender loom]

just the sigil of hope nodes themselves then, kk

[knotty tinsel]

there's a spicier way to be doing good damage without worrying about positioning.

manifest armor spells 😛

or well, it has one spell, that it'll spam for you

[slender loom]

are you talking about the shield throw manifest armor thing?

I could still get manifest armor as a paladin, that's interesting

[desert tree]

No he is talking about MA forgebreath

This is a forbidden jutsu @knotty tinsel you,will be ban from the village

[slender loom]

sigil of hope "allies' attacks" are minions allies?

[knotty tinsel]

did the rounds in #🔱┃sentinel a few days ago since there was a misconception that it you can have a 0 cooldown spell on your minion

instead it's only effectively 0 cooldown

[knotty tinsel]

the world must know! it's too powerful to contain!

[knotty tinsel]

yes

though I'm not sure how that works with other players' minions. I'd assume it's fine

[surreal verge]

Yes, including yourself.

[slender loom]

interesting

I do quite like manifest armor

I will try this

[knotty tinsel]

Prometheus restores the gift of fire to humanity (ca. 565 BC)

[desert tree]

I am still sad it does not procc gaspars 😢

[knotty tinsel]

apparently poor Bob can't use set bonuses either. rip bob having his own forge weapons

[desert tree]

Shattered lance MA... Shattered

[knotty tinsel]

no relic 😢

[thin tinsel]

so... any ultra high ward enjoyers here? i was curious about all your opinions on ward retention and how important it would be for a high ward (lost knowledge mage) build, i am not using exsang or last steps but i am using frostbite shackles

i was planning to use them and go for cold rest just for the ward retention despite not being a dot build but im not sure anymore if its needed

[native sail]

Just a reminder, being able to fight Julra with no pool is a confirmed bug, it is supposed to show up every single time you swap.

[thin tinsel]

also how good would armour shred be for non physcial builds, still good enough to want it on gloves i guess?

[native sail]

Armor shred is good on every hit build regardless of damage type

[pastel pebble]

Yeah

[dense root]

idk if i want to get my shred on gloves though?

it’s a suffix right?

hard to spend suffixes on not health when that’s one of the hybrid health slots

[native sail]

Depending on class/build sometimes you have to

[dense root]

sure maybe it’s the only option

[thin tinsel]

yes, i think it is for me, also idc about health

[pastel pebble]

What's your build?

[pastel pebble]

Most builds will care about health

[dense root]

wow health is so good

[native sail]

For me I personally don't factor in pure flat health for every piece

[thin tinsel]

look above and you know why idc^^

[dense root]

not dying is just so powerful

[native sail]

Izanagi is on a cup build guys

[thin tinsel]

cup?

[native sail]

Vessel

Cup

[pastel pebble]

Ok, ok

[thin tinsel]

huh

[native sail]

Aren't you?

Or am I losing my mind

[pastel pebble]

I lowkey assumed it was like Exsanguiuouis type beat and standard ward stacking

Cause Exsang cares about health

[dense root]

that’s what i thought yeah

[native sail]

I did just wake up so I might just be losing it to morning-ness

[thin tinsel]

nah didnt beat yulra yet, need to try it again 😄 a good vessel could be good for me tho i guess

but i would prefer the new mage relic rolled with t7 mana i think

[surreal verge]

He'''s running ward. But health still helps if you can slot in

[dense root]

this is why i never sleep

[thin tinsel]

honselty no

[dense root]

(also the insomnia)

[thin tinsel]

the moment my health is in danger im ded anyway

like, when enemys eat trough 10k plus ward i think i just fucked up lol

[pastel pebble]

The eldritch voices of the deep jank tell me to make a ward VK

[surreal verge]

I don't think LK can get you that high right?

[native sail]

Mine left alone last night, first night getting over 5 hours sleep in almost two weeks

[surreal verge]

Doit, do a orb ward build

[pastel pebble]

ORB WARD ORB WARD BIG MANA MAN BIG MAN BIG MANA TWO BIG ORBS

YEYEYEYEYEYE

[thin tinsel]

just 4 casts already get me to 5k

[native sail]

The first T4 Julra kill of 0.9 was an LK Glacier Sorc who just stood in the middle of the explosion you're supposed to shift from. All they did was cast it a bunch.

[surreal verge]

[thin tinsel]

i easily go above 10k ward all the time

[native sail]

LK is fucking broken

[surreal verge]

I clearly have not played enough LK mage

[native sail]

It legitimately needs a massive nerf because it makes Sorc have near infinite ward gen

[thin tinsel]

thats why i asked about ward retention above

im not sure how hard i should stack it

[native sail]

I mean

If you stack int that's retention and damage

So go for it

[thin tinsel]

yeah int is fine, dont know if i want to continue use frostbite tho

the gloves i mean

[pastel pebble]

Play a real build

WARD ORB

[native sail]

Oh. I legitimately do not use those unless I'm playing Frostbite lol

[thin tinsel]

i play what i want 😛

[pastel pebble]

Deias, I'm gonna gaslight this entire server into believing Ward Orb

[native sail]

Do it

[thin tinsel]

i just want to understand ward retention better ._.

[pastel pebble]

There's a mathematical equation for it

[native sail]

Look when I've played ward I played with like 350-400 retention and sustained 5k ish without LK.

And no, I didn't use Exsan or Last Steps, Exsan sucks

[pastel pebble]

I may need to level another VK just for all my VK jank

[thin tinsel]

oh wait i didnt even see this, wtf, how much ward did this guy have at the time and how much armour? because last time i tried that i got deleted by her lol

[native sail]

Uh... someone reported they hit 40kish ward. Don't know in armor. So that should give you some idea. No, I have no idea how they managed that, but they did.

[thin tinsel]

oh 40k seems doable if i manage to get a better off hand and amulet

[native sail]

Just make sure you can get your mana back instantly because its TOTALLY BALANCED

[thin tinsel]

the funny thing is, i already can hit even more then that given enough time and enemys in theory

found out the game bugs out at roughly 63k ward and it starts counting agian from 0

it doesnt do it when you hit 63k again tho 🤔

[native sail]

Weird.

[thin tinsel]

in regards to armour shred, at how much stacks are the diminishing returns really bad?

[native sail]

Around 100ish is where it pretty much becomes unnoticeable until you get like 350 stacks lol

[thin tinsel]

wait why is it noticable again at 350 ._.?

[knotty tinsel]

math

[native sail]

Because it increments in such tiny amounts past 100 that comparing it along the way you barely notice a difference until you have the direct comparison with a much larger amount

[thin tinsel]

hmm alright then i guess 1 t5 of armour shred is sufficent, thx! 🙂

[buoyant trench]

I'm absolutely horrible in making builds by myself, so I depend on build guides to do builds; Is there a video or a guide that can help me understand on how to make a build myself?

[unborn elk]

question, can the sabertooths flurry swipes activate itself off the savage catalyst skill node?

[desert tree]

Can you post the node?

[unborn elk]

how?

[desert tree]

Screenshot, copy paste

[unborn elk]

ah lol

[desert tree]

Window + shit + s

[unborn elk]

one sec

[desert tree]

Yes royal mail is quite slow, discord will be faster

[thin tinsel]

i cant recommend a video but you can basicly make everything work up to 200 corruption i would say, it comes down to experimenting a lot and gathering expirience how things interact with each other

[desert tree]

So you mean can flurry swipe procc another flurry swipe?

[unborn elk]

yes

[desert tree]

Should be, flurry swipe is a melee attack

[unborn elk]

thats what i thought too after seeing it go off so many times in a row but just wanted to see if others thought the same thing xD

ty ty

other than class nodes and gear is there a way to incease my vitality lvl 56 with 8 vit and for one of my nodes from serpent strike to work i need min 50

i just feel like im missing something lol

[desert tree]

Passives, gear and idols

[unborn elk]

ok so im not missing something just dont have the gear and idols ty

[desert tree]

On gear it's quite easy

Rolls quite high on prefixes
And you can use either opal ring +1-2 all attributes +cdr or coral ring for +3-6 vit

[unborn elk]

ty for the info doing a beastmaster companion build so my personal stats really havent been a priority but will have to keep this is mind for later when i go gear hunting

[desert tree]

Bm serpent strike with sabertooth?

[unborn elk]

yeah

bear wolf raptor sabertooth and serpent strike for the summoned minion

[desert tree]

Serpent strike for the primal serpent?

[unborn elk]

yes

is this a weird setup?

[desert tree]

I have not seen it before

[unborn elk]

xD

its pretty fun tbh i personally dont do any dmg but man do the pets smack

[desert tree]

Just be careful with hybrid ish build

They struggle

[unborn elk]

oh ik had to kill the boss god thing took me so long to kill (forgot his name but had to get a blessing from him if that helps any)

stuggle was real on that boss lol

but i think the hardest thing so far has been finding spears cuz oh man i have found more set items and uniques than spears lol

[unborn elk]

Lagon is his name lol

[desert tree]

^^

[native sail]

Lagon is the first wall most newbies face

[desert tree]

Espacially the ones with a build that can't target it 😂🎯

Playing self cast smite? Go next

[acoustic thicket]

How much gear do i need to transition to crit nova hammers? I swapped like mid 60s from Holy Trail and my ST is legit terrible. Should I be playing bleed until I get a certain amount of gear?
E: if this isn't the right channel for build questions let me know

[desert tree]

This is or you can try your luck in #🔱┃sentinel

[chrome vessel]

Is there ever going to be a way to identify a unique with a group members name in case someon goes dc - so that you may give it to them after the group ends?

[faint cape]

You cannot see items dropped for other players. If you get an item when you're not actively playing with someone, resonances are a planned feature to let you gift in that case. Otherwise, if you are both in MG, you will be able to directly sell to them at the cost of faction.

[wheat saddle]

who said this? the pool supposed to only spawn if you switch on really bad timing

[desert tree]

no the pool is supposed to spawn

[wheat saddle]

im talking about it spawning underneath you

man im actually so indifferent about it, ive been doing it this way for so long without watching videos

nor was i told that its an exploit

[desert tree]

she does the big charge up attack

[wheat saddle]

literally ever since sanctum came out

yea

and i switch

[desert tree]

you swap era

[wheat saddle]

and it doesnt spawn pool

yes

are you talking about pool on the corner of the map

then yea they do spawn

im talking about the pool thats spawned on yourself

[desert tree]

and normally no matter if you swap back she is supposed to spawn a pool under you

[wheat saddle]

no

[desert tree]

thats the plan anyway

[wheat saddle]

plan by who

where can i find them talking about it

[desert tree]

devs

i would have to search through discord but instead i will be going to bed its already 00.16

but i garantee you : julra is supposed to spawn a degen pool under after the big charge up attack

always

go ask Mike in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs if you dont want to search its fine

[wheat saddle]

hmm

thats just wack

[median garden]

Does anyone else hate arena monos? All the other ones you can zoom around, maybe even complete it faster if you are lucky. But arena ones is just WAITING for the waves. And the mobs don't seem to drop very good loot during the mono either, is that so people dont have like an afk farm build or something and just sit in the corner during the waves?

But yeah my least favorite mono.

[native sail]

It's cuz apparently the game suffers a lot when they leave normal drop rates in arena monos

[amber void]

i have a question about black hole, how does scattered behave when binary system is assigned? it spawn 2, 3 or 4 holes?

[median garden]

I figured it was something like that bc it seemed intentionally bad

[faint cape]

Yeah, they do give a lot of xp and kills, though. Great for releveling skills or ranking up WW items

[polar holly]

Which is a good build that uses bastion shield? I just got it as random drop

[toxic saffron]

Is there an incentive to do lightless harbor in T4 for the vault?

[desert tree]

Every builds that does not want to die

[desert tree]

Just guessing but I think it allows you to get higher item lvl

[normal bolt]

quick question, when crafting a legendary, does the exalted item NEED to have FOUR affixes? or can it have like 2 or 3 to get a higher chance to get the affix I want imprinted to a unique?
plz @ or dm me!

[surreal verge]

Need 4. Ignores Sealed.

[normal bolt]

ty!

[toxic saffron]

Thanks, seems strange, can someone confirm ?

[toxic saffron]

Thanks, seems strange, can someone confirm ?

[surreal verge]

Wait no, wrong dungeon, just better drop rates.

[toxic saffron]

Thanks, seems strange, can someone confirm ?

[desert tree]

Discord being mischievious or you being impatient?

[trim estuary]

Using Ravenous Void sometimes when entering a new mono the void barriers don't show up. Neither the effect around my character or the symbols in the buff bar. Is there a known bug with this? Also wondering if it's just visually missing but still counting.

[toxic saffron]

Discord having a bad day 😊

[desert tree]

Discord right now

[scarlet bolt]

Hey guys, i am in the process of forging me a multishot build, but i can't descide if i should go for flurry with the multishot augment, so i got flurry for single target and the multishot component for aoe,

or straight for multishot and take the augment to allow multishot to hit the same target with multiple arrows, so it has single target dmg on top of it's aoe

[desert tree]

Try your luck in #🔪┃rogue, you will reach a more accurate audience there

[scarlet bolt]

good diea thx

[desert tree]

I have seen a multishot giant slayer build recently by Perry on yt

[scarlet bolt]

*idea

[desert tree]

Don't know about the flurry version though

[scarlet bolt]

i don't wanna go after a guide, did that with my shadow dagger build and while that is nice and all, missing out on the theory crafting process robs me of at least half the fun in ARPG's 😄

[desert tree]

Sure but you can learn from it

Your call, just giving you the info

[scarlet bolt]

i know my way around the rouge, thats why i went and build after a guide the first time, now i wanna give it a go, with a chance of completly fcking it up 😄

[trim estuary]

Can someone eplain excactly how less and reduced damage taken interacts? Let's say I've capped glancing blows and have 1 red ring and meet the stat requirements. So that's 35% reduced damage from glancing blows and 10% less damage taken from the ring. How is that then calculated?

[surreal verge]

Damage X 0.65 X 0.9

Multiplitive

The usual increased,added,more rule.

(Right?)

[desert tree]

If you have another source of reduced it will be added to the 35

[knotty tinsel]

how many sources of reduced DMGTaken are there anyway compared to "less"

[surreal verge]

[desert tree]

Very few

[trim estuary]

I think almost all damage mitigation is reduced

[desert tree]

Are they not less?

Titan heart is less for exemple

[trim estuary]

and that's an exception I think. Armor, resistances and block are all reduced for instance.

[desert tree]

Aspect of the boar is less berserker is less

I think there is more less dmg the reduced dmg

If you reach 100% reduced that means you don't take dmg at all

Résistance are less dmg

[knotty tinsel]

reduced damage has 0 pings when ctrl-F ing it in item list

so that makes sense

[trim estuary]

if you hover over resistances they outright say reduces damage taken

[desert tree]

Pretty sure armor is less too

Once again reduced dmg is way too strong to allow multiply sources

[trim estuary]

then tooltips ingame is wrong

[surreal verge]

Or defenses work differently where they just keep multiplying the damage and never stack together

[knotty tinsel]

when every word is a keyword you're bound to get some mix-ups

english sucks

[desert tree]

Armor cap at 85%+ glancing blow 35% that would mean you take negative dmg

[desert tree]

#tooltip-hunt

[trim estuary]

I'll ask for clarification in ask the devs

[desert tree]

Sure

Maybe the tooltip should say "multiplicative with other source"

[surreal verge]

Or maybe all defenses work this way

[knotty tinsel]

even if it reduces damage you'll only feel that in <75 areas anyway

[desert tree]

Or mitigate instead of reduces

[surreal verge]

[knotty tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-objection-capcom-gif-20965907

[desert tree]

I know but it seems to be confusing

[knotty tinsel]

Void Aegis does say reduced damage taken!

[surreal verge]

Ik

[surreal verge]

Uhoh

[knotty tinsel]

for a whopping 100 hp

ah shit but the actual listed effect says 10% less too

what a mess

[surreal verge]

Here we go again

[desert tree]

And I agree when you establish a vocabulary with a massive difference between more/less and increase/reduce, you need to be consistent

[knotty tinsel]

aiaiai

[desert tree]

#tooltip-hunt

[surreal verge]

If they made them all “less” then it technically would be consistent

[scarlet bolt]

Has anyone else these obnoxiously long load times when playing with someone else? not even the loading screen, just standing at a zone entrance waiting a good 3-5 sek before even getting to the loading screen?
and if yes, do we have any info from the devs on a upcomming fix?

[cedar locust]

It's worth verifying your steam files when this happens as it can help, though if it doesn't please report it on our Bug Forum here : https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/bug-reports/23

[scarlet bolt]

will do thank you

[unborn elk]

i am on the monolith of fate quest and i have to speak to the forgotten knight in the end of time but when i spoke to them nothing happened. am i missing something?

[sick pilot]

hello everyone, how do i change the position of my skill? say from 1 key to 4th key

[vernal seal]

Is there a best place to get WW items? Like, are T4 dungeons better than echoes, or the vault, or is it just echo farm and pray?

[cedar locust]

If you click on the 4th skill slot, you can pick which skill you want there and rearrange them however you like!

[desert tree]

farm and pray

[native sail]

Ignore that NPC, they don't actually do anything

They're closer to being an Easter egg than anything else really

[sick pilot]

thank you soo much!

[cedar locust]

Also if you make your movement 'move-and-attack' you can assign one of those skills to left click 🙂

[sick pilot]

oh how?

in the settings?

[cedar locust]

Nope, I think it's the second to last skill slot, should look like a pair of feet!

[unborn elk]

i have this sigularity item what do i do with it??

[sick pilot]

oh yeah i understand what you mean

[sick pilot]

thanks again 😄

[cedar locust]

You're welcome! Let me know if you have any other questions!

[native sail]

Singularity is a unique idol. Put it in the idol slot. (Don't actually, it's really bad)

[unborn elk]

ah ok ty

[native sail]

There are three total unique idols but the other two are boss drops only

I'm sorry, Av. I love this game to bits but the fact is that disabling crits on a hit build is just a bad idea :(
Would love to see something that makes that not a problem anymore but I figure balancing that heavily is a very long term thing

[cedar locust]

Have I missed something? When does that happen?

(Not sarcastic - there are a lot of mechanics and skills I don't understand yet)

Oooooh, the Singularity Idol - #368968647114227723

I imagine if you glanced over that modifier you would be very confused

[native sail]

Yeah. I haven't made a post on it cuz some others have brought it up a few times and I don't wanna be the kind of person who puts repeat feedback :P

[dense root]

crits are busted it's true

[cedar locust]

Knowing how many players find that Idol frustrating is important, so please don't hold back if you share the same opinion as already posted feedback!

[dense root]

also because it would be confusing i think there should be a critical strike avoidance avoidance affix

which bypasses enemy critical strike avoidance

[desert tree]

Singularity is more dmg if you dont invest in crit at all

[dense root]

right but investing in crit is so much better that it's not a contest

[native sail]

^ this

[dense root]

like you're obviously correct that singularity does the thing written on it

it's just never the right choice

[native sail]

Even if you get only a 30% crit rate you're doing more average DPS even without pumping up multi than you would with Singularity

[desert tree]

Technically even a 21% chance to crit is enough

[native sail]

Yyyyyup. Numbers funni

[desert tree]

I am currently lvling a dw shattered lance build

I dont have space for flat crit and crit in general

I am considering singularity and wing guards

[boreal venture]

can someone help me with herlot on monos

i cannot beat bro 😭

[floral badge]

But then we would need critical strike avoidance avoidance avoidance, so you can avoid the chance to avoid the chance to avoid your chance to crit.

[lyric sonnet]

But then there would need a need for critical strike avoidance penetration avoidance penetration.

[tired helm]

oh damn yeah this idol seems like a giant trap 😅
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwhMBYDYg

Hmm...what if my crit chance is over 100% though?

[dense root]

doesn't matter

[native sail]

Doesn't matter, cannot always takes priority over can

[desert tree]

100% less crit means you take whatever crit you have and multiplies it by 0

[faint cape]

I guess that means if we can get infinite crit, we'll end up with NaN crit

[faint cape]

Crit vuln is crit avoid shred, so we kinda already do

[sinful laurel]

That's how you become super saiyan three

[tired helm]

Ooohhhh I initially read it as 100% subtracted from your total crit chance

I totally missed the multiplicative in the tooltip 😅

[tired helm]

Game causes a divide overflow trying to calculate your NaN crit chance 😜

[faint cape]

This one actually specifically says how it works, which is nice. "Always crits" is actually just +100% flat crit, so it's super misleading in some cases

[faint cape]

Most likely the NaN would effectively be the same as 0% crit chance, but it depends on their specific implementation, and whether they try to use that NaN in a place that will crash the game

[thin tinsel]

does this work

with this

[desert tree]

@latent canyon I am sure he knows

[latent canyon]

np

no*

[thin tinsel]

it doesnt? sadge

but i tought so :/

[latent canyon]

only work with global spell and generic crit multi

[thin tinsel]

im fucking arround a bit with static orb right now, not too impressed i have to say

[latent canyon]

[pastel pebble]

Charged Ground is not Static Orb. A lot of rulings are very specific in their wording

[latent canyon]

yea its a sub skill

[thin tinsel]

yeah i mean with static orb in general, its part of it

for a whooping cost of 300 mana its kinda meh for my build right now^^

[desert tree]

^^ saying that to the guy that pushed 2k corruptions with it
I appreciate the irony

[tropic moon]

what equip is considered jewelry?

[latent canyon]

XD

7mil per tick

[desert tree]

ring amu maybe relic

[pastel pebble]

That's what I mean. In a lot of evertday language is very casual and carries intended implications or suggestions. The wording in this game, abd many others, is very specific. X is X and you may trigger X via Y but they are not the same skill

[thin tinsel]

yeah im aware^^

[desert tree]

why ?

[thin tinsel]

probably some boss reward thing

[latent canyon]

haha

[thin tinsel]

yeah i guess when you play with crown and stack more multiplier it slaps a lot more

[latent canyon]

you dont have to use crown

and tp free cast my dude 😄

[thin tinsel]

oh right that exists 😄

@latent canyon how much mana are you at if i may ask?

[latent canyon]

1670 on max mana gear

nowadays i run 1550 ish on cdr gear

[thin tinsel]

oh you are using the shield thath increases cost right?

[latent canyon]

yes

[runic sedge]

@latent canyon For mana stack static orb, how do you think frostbite would do, between the small orb shotgun and the all shock converted to frostbite? Just curious how you think that would stack up vs crit? (I assume its not better than charged ground or you would probably be doing it lol)

[latent canyon]

i dont think its as good cuz the on hit dmg is usually a smaller component of the dmg. main problem about any of these ailment stuff wanna do is that they dont scale well. you cant add to the base dmg. the stuff that do well with ailments are usually builds that can pop the stacks and benefiting.

[runic sedge]

I thought frostbite might have enough scaling with the boots, but fair enough

[latent canyon]

this ruins the day

[runic sedge]

since they changed it to pen instead of effect?

[latent canyon]

no its the fact that it doesnt scale off FRM off skills

[runic sedge]

yeah, I thought maybe you could get enough from other places, but I'm not too familiar with frostbite builds tbh

[latent canyon]

pen by itself wont get you there

the charged ground stuff is getting 100x multiplier and what not

for example on swarm strike you can get 550x inc dmg

[runic sedge]

yeah i didnt think it would match up to charged ground, but I thought it might match up to crit

[latent canyon]

that prolly would be hard as well

if you just wanna deliver ailments wouldnt VO be better

[thin tinsel]

@latent canyon as one of the authorites of mana sorc do you know how exactly the sorc mana mastery works? The part that says higher cost gives increased dmg

[latent canyon]

Isnt it just as explained. More mana is more dmg. And aslo double dips with increased cost

[runic sedge]

VO doesn't have the massive more damage multipliers from stacking mana, but point taken

[fossil tulip]

hi there, how can I reach there?

[faint cape]

from the imperial era, there's a quest from Oracle's Abode

[fossil tulip]

let's see ...

[sick pilot]

hey guys. i have a question.. how do you break marrow shards where you want it?

i dont know if i phrase it right tbh xd

[surreal verge]

Take the node that does it, and aim at where you want it to break

[sick pilot]

thank you 🙂

[polar holly]

how do i make sorcerer tankier? i cant handle any t4 bosses at lvl 100

[knotty tinsel]

good luck tanking t4

though sorcerer apparently can do that

can check out the Lost Knowledge node, it's perfectly balanced

[polar holly]

i am using plasma fire ball so i can't trigger that, my current build uses heart of uhkeiros + reactive ward, i get around 6k ward but things get really spicy when i get hit

against lightless arbor t4 boss, i get one shot

[desert tree]

Do you have flame ward?

[polar holly]

yeah

[golden sluice]

Once you've picked a mastery is there anywhere ingame that says the passive effects you get?

ah found it nvm

[vestal path]

can i somehow influence with how much forging potential stuff drops?

higher corruption? something?

[surreal verge]

Don't think so.

[vestal path]

._.

[fossil tulip]

is there any way how I can load my build into planer and check how can I upgrade it?

[surreal verge]

If you're online no.

You'll have a manually input the stuff

[fossil tulip]

I am currently lvl 93 druid with lighthing swipe and I only have live 13k on tooltip and I think it's not enough and iit feels like(

[desert tree]

Dont trust the tooltip,
They are... Unreliables at best

What content are you doing?

How does it feels?

What does your weapons looks like?

Do you reach max shock easily?

[surreal verge]

Also yes, tooltip dps is a lying son of a bitch

[fossil tulip]

I found a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlVUJiAshZg and I am trying to follow, currently I am farming for that specific unique amulet

[desert tree]

I wonder... They don't want to give us a way to measure of dps too precisely so we don't end up in a poe style dps contest >that build doesn't have 3M dps? It's garbage.
But at the same time they need to fix the dps tooltips which may have the same effect, no?

[fossil tulip]

feels like it should be twice at least

[desert tree]

Do you mind sharing your setup a bit more?

Maybe screenshots of your swords?

How is your crit chance?

[vestal path]

which one was the dungeo nthats really good to farm exalteds?

temporal sanctum, right?

[desert tree]

Depends on days but yes

Lightless harbor if you are rich is nice too

[vestal path]

what counts as rich?

[desert tree]

iirc the general consensus is around a million for a decent run *fixed

[vestal path]

only have 1.5 right now

so yeh probably gonna farm up some arbor then, got way more keys anyway

[fossil tulip]

it's a little bit like that @desert tree

[desert tree]

Damn! They are sweet

[fossil tulip]

@desert tree please say that you are not russian?

[desert tree]

No why?

Because vlad? 😂

[fossil tulip]

thaks god, yes because of vlad)

[desert tree]

1 let's not be hateful toward Russian, I am sure they are some lovely people. And some of them are awfuls li'e everywhere else.
2 vlad is the French translation of Golden Sun hero Isaac, one of my favourite childhood game. Don't know why they thought Vlad would be better then Isaac though.

[fossil tulip]

you know, I am in Ukraine and this night russion fired 51 cruisse missiles on me, my parents on ocupated territory for almost 2 years, so let's focus on game and not politic, you probably didn't know anything )

[knotty tinsel]

it's not a topic for this channel (or any channel on the server that I know of), but let's not vilify every person that lives in a nation because their governing powers do such things.

I'm sorry that happened to you revolver.

[desert tree]

I am sorry for you and your family,. But if I had say yes despite me being nothing but nice and helpful, what would you have done?

[desert tree]

#lobby?

[vestal path]

ok julra is fucking bullshit. volatile reversal teleported me on top of the big scary aoe dot thing, even tho i never was at that point of the room during the entire fight

guess i unlock the last dungeon tier after dnd ._.

[desert tree]

Yeah if when you VR it's supposed to change era, it will tp on the side.

You need to wait a little bit longer when you change era before you VR

[vestal path]

ah, good to know

yeah it was right after the clock thing

might be what happened there, good to know

stil lannoying 😄

[desert tree]

Yep

Died 5 times before realising

I am so afraid to use VR now ^^

[vestal path]

ngl, kinda getting bored at lvl 92, seems to be my ceiling, none of my chars are higher lvl ._.

[desert tree]

Hammer smite?

[vestal path]

yeh

not bored with the build necessarily

more with endgame. echos sadly are very often very similar layouts. nothing really to do

[desert tree]

It's time you join the 100c farmer club

Only hipster builds

[surreal verge]

Come run AoD and question the skill tree

[desert tree]

Poison warpath

[vestal path]

aod?

[desert tree]

Aura of decay

[surreal verge]

Aura Of Decay

[vestal path]

i... dont know what that is

sounds like righteous fire build

[surreal verge]

Lich's 3rd skill(I think)

[desert tree]

But worse

[vestal path]

i see no obvious weirdness on the skill tree at a glance

clue me in plis

[surreal verge]

It's not weird, it's just.... meh.

(Also there's a convert to armour shred node which is pretty funny)

[desert tree]

Support

For you harvest

Or hungering soul death seal

Does hungering soul hit?

[surreal verge]

No

Unless you convert it

Problem with the armour shred node that it also shreds yourself.

[knotty tinsel]

just cleanse yourself every second of every fight and it's fine!

[surreal verge]

[knotty tinsel]

also hungering soul does hit by default

or LEtools listing is very strange

[surreal verge]

Oh wait it DOES count as a hit.

But it does no hit damage by default

Which is...

Just for ailments

[knotty tinsel]

it does though?

the possess debuff doesnt share values with listed Base damage

[surreal verge]

Oh it DOES hit damagE?

Damn I must be fucking blind

[knotty tinsel]

it's more a hit skill than a dot skill in general, at least on paper

because it only has a single node that interacts with possess (which I find disappointing tbh)

[desert tree]

Can you not do single skull ignite?

[knotty tinsel]

you have to take single skull to convert ignite at all, other than the unique relic XD

[desert tree]

I did mention single qkull

Can HS pierce?

[knotty tinsel]

don't think so

[desert tree]

Sadge

Its sad that sentinel does not have more fire melee skill

Warpath and judgement, am I missing one?

[knotty tinsel]

rive with a mace

COPIUM

also void cleave can convert, smelter's wrath is melee technically

[desert tree]

I am thinking about ruby gang set

Ruby gang 😂thanks swiftkey

[surreal verge]

No

[knotty tinsel]

shadow wizard ruby gang

[thin tinsel]

so you dont know the exact math/formula? hmm guess im gonna ask mike

[desert tree]

Talking about that?

[thin tinsel]

yes

[desert tree]

Well, Inc dmg = mana cost

If it cost 300 mana you get 300% Inc dmg

Seems pretty straight forward to me

Maybe I am missing something

It's an Inc dmg so its additive with all your other Inc dmg

[latent canyon]

Its all more modifiers

[desert tree]

Wdym?

[latent canyon]

Idk what exact formula is needed

Assuming max points
Mana charged more=max mana/20x5%
Overcharged more=max mana/5x(1+inc cost)x3%

[thin tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-unga-bunga-loading-uga-gif-23786525

[desert tree]

Does the Inc mana cost from the shield come after manacharged and overcharged?

Or is that on the base cost?

[latent canyon]

Its on overcharged

Says in the formula i just gave

[desert tree]

Oh yeah

[latent canyon]

Assuming 1660mana which is close to what i have and 50% inc cost
Mana charged more=1660/20x5%=415%
Overcharged more=1494%

[latent canyon]

Dmg just from these two nodes are 5.15x15.94

82x dmg

[thin tinsel]

Setting all the static orb things away... how inpactful is the sorc master by itself?

[latent canyon]

Not sure what you meant

[dense root]

gnasherrr did the hammer throw guy get back to you

[thin tinsel]

Im playing arround with Meteor belt atm, if i specc it into multiple meteors the dmg obviously is a lot higher because more meteors, but the its base cost is increased by 70

I just wanna know how much the 70 mana would contribute to the dmg of each individual meteor

[desert tree]

70 mana cost = 70%increased dmg

[latent canyon]

Yes he was just following the guide in terms of pts.

https://www.caimogu.cc/post/211045.html

[thin tinsel]

Is it really just that? Thats what, a t5 increased generic spell dmg on a wand?

[knotty tinsel]

well you also get more meteors in return

[dense root]

thanks

i’ll take a look when i’m at my computer

curious how close my guess was

[latent canyon]

His shield has no t7 block chance

[dense root]

huh weird

is he getting block chance from rings and stuff?

like there are definitely a lot of random places to make up the extra points

[strange parcel]

anyone got a link to the patchnotes?

found em here https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/patch-notes/39 *

[little yacht]

as a mage, if I use a rune of ascendance on an item, shouldn't it be rolling on my class items alone?
For example, I've used a couple of runes of ascendance on 2 different mage relics, and the result I got were two sentinel relics. Is this meant to be this way? imo it should be random, but if you're rolling a mage relic, the result should also be a mage relic, not a random relic from a different class

[dense root]

that’s intended yes

it doesn’t care about anything except the broad category of item

any relic can become any relic, any body armor can become any body armor, etc.

[latent canyon]

Mhmm no extra block chance but t5 eff and t7 less dmg on block

[desert tree]

RoA looks a the type of item not the subtype

[dense root]

i guess you get block chance on rings/gloves and then take the extra in forge guard and sentinel tree and it works out the same but still very weird

less damage on block does sound strong here though yeah

[little yacht]

thank you @dense root and @desert tree
in that case I wasted 2 runes, oof : (

[desert tree]

Just play a sentinel 😉

Best class anyway

[latent canyon]

Oh yea

[thin tinsel]

Yeah i know but thats not the point, Meteor was just an example if you take any other spell lets say fire ball and you double its mana cost from 3 to 6 thats just 3% increased spell dmg then right? Seems kinda low if this is how it works

[surreal verge]

For skills that ALREADY have a big mana cost, it's free damage

[silver iron]

does rogue's graceful arena gives damage to allies ?

[surreal verge]

No.

[silver iron]

aight tks!

[faint cape]

Yeah, that is how it works. At that level yeah it's worthless, but like 100%+ inc damage definitely isn't negligible.

[little yacht]

blasphemy

[thorn rune]

did they change the animation of the profane flesh's rock throw? I was just hit by one a bunch of times without moving his arms...

[vestal path]

man, cant bring myself to start up the game again. i wish there was some proper endgame shit, im brainbroken and cant just enjoy farming ^^

[sick pilot]

anyone having problem with the game today? the game crash 3 times in 30 min for me

[dense root]

i played for a bit earlier and it was fine

try verifying files

if that doesn’t work idk

[sick pilot]

ok i will thanks 😄

[sonic fulcrum]

man Ice Barrage is killer, offscreening mobs is so fun

Bosses a bit annoying tho

[surreal verge]

Build frostbite barrage?

[sinful laurel]

Yes

[sick pilot]

1 more question... is it a good idea to use loot filter from maxroll ? the one that comes from "levelling guide"

[near path]

their filters are decent yeah

you can always edit filters once you've learned more about the game and items

[sinful laurel]

Heavyz's filters are also a great starting point and easy to edit once you get deeper in

[sick pilot]

okay. thanks everyone. i was just worried if im not gonna see any loot if i use loot filter because im only level 20 haha

[vestal path]

i know heavyz includes leveling rules

perfectly fine using it, wont miss a thing

[sinful laurel]

Yup. Level 15 is his cutoff

But even then his base filters are very loose

[knotty tinsel]

best thing to do is pick a different source for every filter you start out with, so you get an idea of what your style is

since it's really a preference thing

[sinful laurel]

They are meant for first characters and also meant to be heavily edited once you get comfortable

[sick pilot]

understood.

[desert tree]

What do you people think about a rune of "exaltation"?
Consume all remaining fp has a chance to turn a random t5 affix into a t6 or 7.
You need 4 t5 to use and some remaining fp to use it

Good? Bad? Op? Trash tier?

Should it have a chance to brick the item? Or a downside? Like loose a tier

[near path]

if it worked like an Aisling unveil it might be balanced IMO.. 1 affix gets exalted, 1 gets scrapped, and you can use a Glyph of Hope with it

it's not at all easy to get an item with 4 correct affixes at t5 and STILL have FP left over to craft

[dense root]

4xt5 isn’t really that hard

maybe on some specific bases but in general it’s pretty easy to do

[vestal path]

its the whole "correct base" and "correct affixes

its not as common. like at first you think "yeah, get all t5 all the time" but then you think back and go "yeh, didnt use it tho cause wrong affixes, or base"

[dense root]

i mean i’ve farmed 4xt5 on the correct base dozens of times it just isn’t that hard unless you need a rare base

[faint cape]

yeah, but base wouldn't matter in the case of making exalts for legos

[dense root]

this is also true

like if you want a really specific katana i bet you’ll have some trouble but it’s very easy to get like a ruby ring or whatever with 4xt5

[vestal path]

maybe its just a difference in playtime

i get plenty 4xt5 items by accident (chaosing for correct affixes mostly)

but rather rarely i end up with the correct set

[faint cape]

it depends on how picky you need to be with your affixes for sure

if you need two rare prefixes on your body armor, makes it a lot harder to get double life for the suffixes

for example

[silver iron]

Hey , blade dancer 's dancing strike's graceful arena increased damage affects aot?more precisely poison damage? or just physical?

[sinful laurel]

"you deal increased damage" means global damage.