❔┃ask-the-community

[copper fable]

The real problem is just that some builds are so strong even in 4 person scaling with no supports they blast the whole screen dead

if people wanna build synergistic support teams I think its pog and good, but what is really a head scratcher is when my 3 man team had almost no synergy other then rogue existing and our smite hammer guy was able to solo kill everything on 3 man scaling before we could catch up

[native sail]

Crit Vuln

[copper fable]

the rogue didnt even get to do it once our smiter got all his smite idols

smiter just lunged around blasting the whole screen on 3man scaling

[sinful vine]

is hammer smite that overtuned? o.O i thought javelin was the big hotness

[copper fable]

Jav has better single target id bet, but hammers just let you never have to stop to cast for a lot of packs because the hammers stay on you. so you can cast like 20 hammers, and just lunge pack to pack and you will still have hammers that are casting stuff as you zip through the packs without having to stop

the hp scaling is just really weak

I think before empowered mono 3 man is 240% monster hp, its not even full 1:1 scaled

dunno if it ever even hits 1:1 I dont think it does

it should be 1:1 by default I think, and maybe like 1:1.25 to account for potential synergy etc.

[acoustic thicket]

What is end game like?

[native sail]

That's a broad question. Some people push corruption, some people like farming rare items, some people go to farm T4 dungeons, some people like pushing endless arena for leaderboards. For me I just play a build into okayish corruption until I get a unique(s) that causes neuron activation and makes me want to try and build around it.

[stray gale]

is there anyway to change the controller button binds? the portal button is the same like the hide all loot button -.- very annoing

[native sail]

Should be able to? Check your options.

[stray gale]

is it grey out

this 5 i can change

[native sail]

Hm...

[stray gale]

6

[native sail]

This might be an issue that hasn't been resolved. Check in with support or the #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs (they may not be able to help there)

[sterile widget]

Can you unbind the tooltip one completely?

[stray gale]

i removed the alt+z and it hide it like befor

[sterile widget]

Darn. 😦

[crisp crane]

Hi, I redeemed to Steam but I can't see the MP mode during the character creation

[faint cape]

MP mode is not released yet

[crisp crane]

yes I read bad the news channel, it's the 23rd, ty

[faint cape]

I think it's safe to say that it's never intended for bosses to instantly die from anything other than a chandelier dropping on them

[sterile widget]

On the other hand, if he does a backflip off the map, he got his

https://tenor.com/view/backflip-back-flip-gif-5547677

[balmy current]

!bug

[ripe brook]

Please post bug reports on our forum: https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/bug-reports. Thanks!

[tawny imp]

Is there a level sync for multiplayer?

[balmy current]

No

But if you're more than 5 lvls below the area you're in you'll only get xp as if the area were 5 lvls above you.

And if you're massively above the lvl of the zone you'll get #### all xp, but you'll breeze through it.

[wise surge]

Hi all. Just tried to login and it has failed, asking for my username and password. I normally login via steam, never actually made an "account" so to speak.
Is there an issue with the login server?

[cinder fossil]

are you still on the [internaltest] branch?

or rather, did you participate in the playtest?

[wise surge]

I did participate but I changed it back, also just checked

[cinder fossil]

tried restarting steam?

[wise surge]

hmmm fixed it. How strange. Thanks for the help @cinder fossil
I always forget about the old, switch it on and off again 😛

[balmy current]

If that doesn't work, you'll need to switch to a percussive maintenance regime.

[warm yew]

Thermal Reconfiguration is always an option, if that fails. You know, can't get stuck if it's a liquid...

[sterile widget]

You gotta blow on it

[lofty swift]

Can I double dip this and get 24% more dmg if the enemy is BOTH shocked and chilled?

[urban horizon]

Yes however they are multiplicative with each other so 1 point would be 25% more dmg

[lofty swift]

pog. Yeah true

[raw fern]

@sleek lily i don't want to talk on the "ask the devs" chat so one mention is that the game doesn't have gender options, because it's currently to expensive to make. Maybe after 1.0 if the sales will be good 😉

also if you have more questions about the game ask them here

[sleek lily]

I see, thanks. Hope the sales will be good then 😊

[raw fern]

They sold 500k copies already and the next patch is big step forward

If you want bag pack mtx buy the game before march 9

[sleek lily]

Will do

[raw fern]

#news message 😉

[sleek lily]

@native sail I'll reply here! I agree, that sounds like a good motivation. As long as progress stays I'm happy, compared to e.g. Tarkov where progression is reset each wipe, which I hate.

[native sail]

EHG seems to be making good decisions with how they're handling long term progression for everyone. Separation of offline and online, standard league and temp league (referred to as "cycles"), trying not to make HUGE things for cycles so as not to induce FOMO for those who can't make it, etc etc. I really like this team, they're smart.

[sleek lily]

Much appreciated!!

Listening to the community is always the best way to go imho.

[native sail]

They do a lot of that, that's for sure. That being said they also don't bend over backwards for player demands if it's something they explicitly do not like in any form. They make it clear that nothing is ever exactly a "this will never happen" as they always like having options but they are vocal when it's unlikely to happen.

[sleek lily]

Smart! 👏

[native sail]

Yep! I am a fan of them for sure, definitely one of the best companies I've seen around.

[sleek lily]

I'm in! Such a beautiful game visually, can't wait to learn more about it.

[native sail]

Oh they did some great updates to visuals in the coming update too, as well as performance so turning up your settings is actually possible without big hits.

[sleek lily]

Why does my mana bar turn purple and drain after using blizzard? 😮

[warm yew]

Because your mana is currently Negative - you also can't cast spells that cost mana while negative.

[sleek lily]

Ohhh, thanks.

Didn't know u could go negative on mana

[warm yew]

Aye - it's one of the coolest Out of Mana mechanics I've gotten to interact with. So spells will always cost the same amount, but if you have 'some' mana but not enough, you'll go negative the amount you didn't have, and be locked out until you recover some.

Certain spells like Focus even have interactions with being at Negative Mana when cast.

[static dust]

wanted to ask, what level do you reckon to start crafting ?

[sleek lily]

that's awesome, need to get used to it 🙂 Thanks mate.

Now when I have u on the line, is there any keybind to loot all nearby items? Annoying to manually click each one 🙂 ty

[warm yew]

That's really subjective - on some characters, I craft on white items that I found in the first town-like-zone, just to get some basics on my gear to speed things up; but those are usually my third, fourth, and beyond characters. On a first run-through, I tend to set up a filter for "pick this up and shatter it" and one for "pick this up and craft on it - and do so immediately on the first one, so I don't get confused.

Right now, there's not a ton of other options for the common/uncommon shards - they just pile up throughout playtime - so you get less and less careful with them as you go.

[copper fable]

Items dont vendor for a lot, so the key would be to actually just not pick them up. Essentially they are designed in a way in which you simply dont pick up items not important to you. This can be hard as a new player not understanding what affixes you need. But as you become experienced with the game you basically will just leave items on the ground.

There is no reason for a loot all button because there is no value to doing so.

[warm yew]

^^

[sleek lily]

Well true, mostly me hoarding items early game

[copper fable]

Shards auto pickup all nearby ones when you click on them, and that will be the majority of clicking in end game. gold is auto looted

[static dust]

Thanks all!

[grand river]

I will pickup outside of my filters when first leveling a character to have a starter-like set of low level rares usable for several classes filling up a stash tab maybe two. Once I get to mono's I stop checking anything and rely only on filter sets.

[bleak coral]

I'm making a filter, what does "Max lvl below character lvl" mean and how can I utilize this?

[sleek lily]

Orange looks cool, but seriously, which is better for me as a elemental sorcerer?

Throwing attack damage, dodge rating etc, idk if it's even good for me.

[buoyant sinew]

neither are that amazing for you. sorcerer doesn't have any throwing attack skills, so the throwing attack damage on riverbend would only be scaling the axe it triggers. dodge is okay but as a sorcerer you don't really have any interactions or scaling for it, so you're probably not getting any.

health is nice, armour is nice resistance is nice, crit chance is probably nice. if you're very early in the game I'd probably just slap on the riverbends for the health until you get something better, but it probably won't take long to find better than either of these.

[sleek lily]

Awesome. THanks for the detailed answer

Im just lvl 18

Trying to get the hang of the game and what stats i need

Stats lol

[buoyant sinew]

damage with sorcerer is fairly easy. spell damage, elemental/element-specific damage, cast speed, critical chance/multiplier if you're going crit, damage over time if you're going dot.

defences are more complicated, but you can't go wrong with life/armour/resistances for most of the game.

[sleek lily]

Cool. Thank u

[buoyant sinew]

you'll probably also want mana regen

[sleek lily]

Thanks friend

Also, sorry for all questions. Blue is better right?

I fall victim to more rare more expensive = better atm lmao.

[buoyant sinew]

yeah I would use the blue one, it's close though

rarer doesn't necessarily mean better in this game, most builds end up using a mix of rare and unique items

[sleek lily]

Good to know

[native sail]

This game tends to only let you sacrifice a few slots on uniques otherwise you cripple your character :P

[safe harness]

It depends what skills you’re using

[native sail]

This is my current character (and highest level. Probably tankiest to boot).

[sleek lily]

Thanks guys

Niice

Btw, can't believe Ive dodged LE for so long, game's been crazy fun so far.

[safe harness]

If you’re doing a big aoe every 4 seconds, gamblers fallacy is better

[sleek lily]

Love the animations and gfx.

Just found my first relic 🎉

[native sail]

It is a bit heavily geared, a few pieces on it are a little ridiculous, but overall it isn't the most broken thing ever or anything. But it definitely works.

[brittle atlas]

Fallacy is very good for leveling sorc if you use Glacier

[sleek lily]

Will note! 🙂

[broken depot]

I'm getting back into LE (as the upcoming multiplayer means I'll be able to play with my S.O.) and I saw that there is a rework planned for ailments. Could anyone point me to where I can get more info on the changes? Do I have to wait for 0.9 to be live to get my question answered?

[native sail]

I can only tell you poison's rework because I don't know the others and there's no patch notes yet.

Poison is being reworked to only shred resistance for the first 30 stacks. It's effectively a nerf. It's still absolutely playable. Just isn't theoretically infinite damage scaling.

[buoyant sinew]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/september-2022-development-update/49746

this has some details in the "ailment changes" section

[balmy current]

That's the main one, that & the change of "ailment effectiveness" to "penetration with ailment"

[balmy current]

Which, of course, means that it's been nerfed into the ground & is now trash tier dps might as well remove from the gaem.

[orchid turret]

any settings tips for this game?

[broken depot]

I'll be curious to check how it affect one of my build, because it also says the poison base DoT would increase to compensate for it
I ran aura-of-decay lich, and the skill has an option for poison resist shred = to your int, but it was hard to maintain more than 200 poison stack

[copper fable]

Frostbite -> only first 30 stacks make it more likely to freeze. 200 freeze rate -> 20% increased chance to freeze(up to 30 stacks)(I assume this is applied last.)

Poison same as frostbite, only shreds for first 30 -> higher base damage, dont remember the % offhand, but it is really obvious during leveling when you cant hit 30 stacks.

Ignite -> 2.5 seconds for total damage instead of 3.

Effectiveness -> Pen with said ailment instead.

Shock -> 10 stacks instead of 20.

[desert quest]

Absolutely. Nobody touch poison builds. It is horrible.

I will suffer alone

[broken depot]

Guess I'm nobody then

[copper fable]

There might be other changes as well, but thats what I remember from the test.

[balmy current]

But at least you can watch Dr Who & Clara.

[copper fable]

Bleed seemed unchanged other then global effectiveness mechanic shifts.

but these have big changes to many builds other then poison builds, depending on the gearing or set up of said ailment, shred becomes pretty lackluster of a stat to chase.

Which might open up blessing choices. Huzzah!

[balmy current]

Depends how much ailment pen you can get

[copper fable]

me when my meme plague builds got nerfed

cause now I cant stack poison shred and 200 plague effect from plague bearers

cause now they just add together which is lame

[balmy current]

They've always done that though

[native sail]

Me who's still gonna take the shred anyway

[copper fable]

well tis still good on lots of builds, but others its kinda not as good

but it will always be some extra damage if thats what u need

[copper fable]

What I mean is currently effect is a more multiplier essentially that adds with itself, but its in a seperate step

so if you had 50 effect and 50 pen, in the new system you have 100 pen

which is a bit weaker then what you had before

[native sail]

Defense isn't real. Big number trumps all.

[copper fable]

before you had 1.5 * 1.5 * X = 2.25x, now you have 2X, so you lose like 12% of your damage

basically its removing an entire scaling vector from some builds

like salt the wound for poison builds was a straight damage multi in most cases

[orchid turret]

anyone run ultra quality?

[copper fable]

now it just adds pen to the already 300 shred you have lol

[vapid aspen]

Tbh more pen/shred than any build has any business having considering pen on amulets is like 10%

needs actual base damage

[broken depot]

I'm curious though, they say that changing poison mechanic is a way to enable more build diversity. Which poison build didn't stack as many poison dot as possible?

[vapid aspen]

The bad ones

[broken depot]

Or, which build are they enabling

[vapid aspen]

like acid flask and stuff

But even those went over like 60 stacks so they also got nerfed

Poison static orb though...

[broken depot]

And how many stacks were good build getting at? (sorry for being a casual)

[vapid aspen]

around 1000 I think?

like the insane ones were in that area roughly

[brittle atlas]

it shifts the focus from pure hit count to more multis kind of like bleed

[vapid aspen]

Yeah but if you are playing it that way you just go bleed

[brittle atlas]

so more skills are now relatively better at poison

as compared to pre 09 where hit count was by far the most important thing

[broken depot]

That is insane

[vapid aspen]

The issue is that the worst posion skills didn't get any better, and they weren't playable before

[copper fable]

tbh its still the biggest flaw with ailments, its still kinda that way imo.

hit rate is just 2 damn important

[vapid aspen]

Like you can't just do this and not even look at all the skills used for poison

[brittle atlas]

there's now some room for slower hitting poison skills, there's just a balance point

as long as those slower hitting skills can still hit 30 shreds

and have enough more multi

[balmy current]

No, I think they did it to reduce the maximum power output of poison builds somewhat without screwing over the lower end builds

[brittle atlas]

is that good enough? probably not

[vapid aspen]

Aod is 70% less damage than before?

[brittle atlas]

but it does add a bit of diversity where none existed before

AoD was never particularly good for damage tbh

[vapid aspen]

And it's even worse now

[carmine coyote]

4man poison stacking with old mechanic would have been a disaster tbf

[vapid aspen]

it's definitely on the lower end of poison builds

[brittle atlas]

that's an issue with AoD being rate limited tbh

and rate limited way below what even single hit skills can do

[copper fable]

AoD needs rework anyways I dont think even if it had tons of multis anyone wants to play a build that does that much damage to themselves. I still dont understand AoD design purpose

fixed rate poison application that also kills you? why is it got so many downsides lol

[brittle atlas]

because they haven't fixed snapshotting xd

imagine if AoD was actually really good on top of being a completely free skill/specialization

[vapid aspen]

The other half though is that over the past years they've been balancing poison by nerfing the skills that applied it

[broken depot]

I had some decent fun running a full time AOD build. Convert to ward generated through missing life to offset self damage

[vapid aspen]

and then they finally nerf the ailment and none of those skills get their scaling back

[brittle atlas]

luckily they decided to not nerf UB to the ground 🙂

but flurry is still RIP tho

they did the same thing with shadow daggers too tbh

[vapid aspen]

wandering spirits is also looking pretty meh

[brittle atlas]

nerfed all the ways to apply it when SD itself was the issue

[vapid aspen]

for poison

[brittle atlas]

yeah, it's been sort of ok since the rework, but definitely not as good as it used to be

[copper fable]

yeah they nerfed SD ub really hard imo and im not really sure it needed it :/ literally makes it feel like trying to play shadow daggers is a waste of time

[vapid aspen]

Right, it is sorta ok now and my money says it won't be sorta ok after 0.9

[brittle atlas]

eh

SD UB is still insane

[broken depot]

I'm guessing acolyte is going to get some love when they introduce the last mastery

[brittle atlas]

imo it's probably the best league start build for BD atm

[copper fable]

yeah but does it scale

[brittle atlas]

yes

quite a lot

that's like the one good thing about SD

[vapid aspen]

Dancing strikes SD is also up there

[brittle atlas]

is it scales insanely well with added damage and crit multi

I tried dancing strikes a bit in the last mp event and it felt pretty awful compared to UB

[vapid aspen]

since the bladestorm 3 hits per second is a buff for setups that only had 1

[brittle atlas]

the application rate is insanely slow feeling

and trying to keep uptime on the dancing strikes buff seems pretty awful

[vapid aspen]

yeah that's just dancing strikes feeling bad as usual

tbh the SD change only hits the mourningfrost stuff. Otherwise it's a hit build that gets an enormous amount of low cost penetration that basically nothing else gets.

[brittle atlas]

mourningfrost has been bait for a while imo

[vapid aspen]

Like even recall UB with SD looks pretty good

[main plover]

Noobish Monolith question. Each monolith initially has an increasing level as you travel through them to the end. Once you get empowered monoliths, when you choose Legendary Area Level 100 for example, are all areas now equal in difficulty if they are all 100? For example is a area like Black Sun empowered at level 100 now equal in difficulty to ones near the end which initially were harder?

[cinder fossil]

all empowered monoliths are level 100

[dry narwhal]

i think the short answer is yes oldgoat

[main plover]

It felt that way but just wanted to make sure, thanks

[orchid turret]

what is attunement?

[dry narwhal]

G to open game guide

[sterile widget]

If you open your character window, you can hover over some things to get more information, including the core attributes 🙂

[faint cape]

Yeah, though difficulty of the monos does vary by enemy composition. For example, meteor bird dudes and act 9 enemies.

[native sail]

Any mono can have any group of enemies

[midnight timber]

you can teleport out and restart the echo to get a different mob set, btw, without losing the reward

it's a cheeze move, but it works 🙂

[dense remnant]

Not true, look at tunklabs for enemy types in different ones

[knotty tinsel]

will my lootfilters stay as they are when the update rolls out?

I'll have to update them after balance changes ofc

[lunar holly]

yep, filters are stored locally under AppData\LocalLow\Eleventh Hour Games\Last Epoch\Filters

[acoustic thicket]

Sind hier Spieler, die 1. Deutsch verstehen und 2. sich gerne austauschen würden? Bin selbst Anfänger und habe einen Sentinel ForgeKnight Solo (mit Versuch macht kluch) bis Level 75 gespielt. Bei Monolith Fate stehe ich gerade bei 'The Solen Lance' und 'The Black Sun'.

[viscid musk]

Hi hier gibt es einige deutsche Spieler, aber der channel wird hauptsächlich in englischer sprache genutzt. Falls du Fragen hast kannst mir gern ne pm schicken. Es gibt auch einen deutschen discord server wo wir neuen spielern helfen und uns austauschen.
Back to english 🙂

[elfin oracle]

for the open multiplayer, can you use your old characters?

[native sail]

No.

Characters from the last MP test are on a different closed realm. Characters from this MP test will also be on a different realm. Only 0.9 and later will keep your MP characters. Your offline characters are unaffected by anything, they exist forever.

[elfin oracle]

thank you!

[native sail]

[lime sky]

Sigils of Hope skill is missing and can't be selected.
Any idea what is happening?

[brave ibex]

How many points do you have in Paladin?

[lime sky]

Oh, I did a quick re-spec and forgot to allocate enough points. Thanks.

[high ether]

are guilds a planed thing for this game?

[orchid turret]

so i wanted to respec my skill tree to aquire other nodes but once i took them away i cant put them anywhere

did i do something wrong

[cinder fossil]

you have to relevel the skill once you unspec a point

you dont immediately get the point(s) back

[orchid turret]

gotcha

well this might be bad hahaha

[balmy current]

Maybe, they just want it to be more than a glorified chat channel.

[sleek lily]

Are there any capes in game? Would be so cool.

[native sail]

I think Grael lost his cape.

But no there's not any capes right now. Maybe there will be some cosmetics for it in the future.

[sleek lily]

Please god, it would be so cool.

[cinder fossil]

they did mention capes as mtx during the interview with zizaran last year

[knotty tinsel]

grael lost his cape?! uninstalling

[native sail]

Maybe he has a new cape, I don't remember exactly. He looked fantastic though. No more bland, uninspired, bald white guy.

[sleek lily]

I bought LE on Steam. Just noticed there are supporter packs out there. But holy hell, those are expensive no? I hope they chill with the mtx prices later. I mean its still a paid game after all.

[clever hedge]

Has any news been released about Runemaster?

[native sail]

Supporter packs are made to 1) support the devs further 2) get currency FOR the MTX and 3) give you extra goodies on top.

[sleek lily]

I guess 🙂

[native sail]

I don't think they are indicative of the prices

[lilac sonnet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/118cq9h/which_trade_faction_do_you_see_yourself_joining/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[finite socket]

Just curious, what are usually the 'uses' of your 5 skills

For example a build with 5 abilities could use them like:
1 - wave/group clear
2 - boss killing / single target
3 - mobility
4 - defensive skill
5 - idk

Rogue for example might often have a builder, a spender, perhaps 2 builders within a bigger combo, maybe it would have decoys for CC/survivability

[native sail]

I usually go damage, buff, mobility, defense, defense/utility

[knotty tinsel]

it really varies. some builds/classes have skills that combo into each other (very literally for blade dancers for example), but most will always have one skill focused on moving around.

other than that your 4 are some amalgamation of damage and survival

[finite socket]

Kk, thanks, just curious y'alls thoughts on that

I'm trying to think of a randomizer that gives you 5 abilities for a class, and gives you assignments for them too. Like it would choose one that you have to turn into your main damage / spender ability for example

It could be a fun way to give me random characters and force me to mix it up with some builds. But I was trying to think of other potential "assignments" or "roles" for abilities. But some can only be 1 role it feels like ofc

Like teleport for mage could probs generally only be mobility I'm guessing

[knotty tinsel]

some abilities just don't have mobility at all so you'd have to sort them a little

what I'd do is randomize character, then class, then roll 2-3 skills that you build around and see what you come up with.

[finite socket]

Yeah I'd have to give them a pool of potential tags
Could leave some abilities blank too, not every one has to be given a role

Mmm that's a good idea too

[dry narwhal]

see a randomizer is nice until it gives you vengance as your damge skill and you just don't

[finite socket]

Lol

[knotty tinsel]

hey! Vengeance can uh, shred, and um... uh...

[dry narwhal]

🛌🏼

[finite socket]

I spose that ability wouldn't be able to get the "main damage dealer" role in that case lol

[knotty tinsel]

you can certainly try

[dry narwhal]

thats the only thing vengeance does though

[knotty tinsel]

but building around an ability doesn't always mean making it do damage

[dry narwhal]

i mean i guess it "can" be a tiny buff for reduced daamage taken but 2 seconds? yikes i think id rather use rebuke and i havent used that skill in...years

[finite socket]

True. Basically I'm trying to give myself restrictions (but not too many) so that it forces me to use abilities in new ways compared to the usual ways that I use them

And potentially come up with new builds or play styles that I otherwise might never have done

[knotty tinsel]

When I did it I rolled into paladin hammer throw by chance so that was a bit of a dud XD

i'll be sure to try again in the future

[dry narwhal]

i use new uniques to make myself try new skills

like when the lightning meteor set came out i finally played meteor

[knotty tinsel]

I've got my hands full for 0.9 already

or rather, my hands empty

its UNARMED TIME HO YEAH

[finite socket]

Lol

Is there a way to do an unarmed build?

[brave ibex]

There's a new pair of gloves for that yeah

[buoyant sinew]

they're not in the game yet, coming in 0.9

but they're the only unarmed build that makes sense atm

[finite socket]

I see I see, ty

[native sail]

They're almost assuredly getting a nerf before they come out

[finite socket]

Which part? The plus dmg per attunement particularly?

Or whole shebang

[dry narwhal]

the part that they work on every part of judgement

including the consecrated aura section

[native sail]

Yeah, they're just a bit insane

[finite socket]

Mmm
Well don't they have to make up for all the dmg and stats you're not getting from weapon(s) and/or shield

[native sail]

Sure, but they make up a bit too much

[dry narwhal]

you can use an offhand/shield

[native sail]

Also that

Me about to slap on the GB quiver as a meme with those

Hm. Synergy?

[dry narwhal]

but bastion exists

[balmy current]

Good luck equipping a quiver as a Sentinel.

[native sail]

Bows are locked

[balmy current]

Are quivers not?

[native sail]

Nope

[balmy current]

Fuck

[native sail]

You just can't equip a weapon

[balmy current]

Yeah, that's a bit borked

[native sail]

Very weird, but seems funny to do

[balmy current]

Not sure it'd be better than a Bastion though

Mind you, I remember when you could shield throw bows

[native sail]

Probably not but it's funny

[balmy current]

Feels like something I'd have to do just 'cause

[royal mauve]

For the open beta, can we download the game in advance if we didn't buy it?

[noble wasp]

any good UB builds? havent tried it

[lofty swift]

Is Laggon's hit box buggy? I feel like Im not hitting him even when I click on him

Other times I do hit him fine

[dry narwhal]

incredibly

[vapid aspen]

I'm kinda curious how you are hitting him fine sometimes tbh

[orchid turret]

So once at monoliths that’s endgame correct

[dry narwhal]

yeah

[orchid turret]

So I just keep going into different ones trying to find better gear

And I just keep progressing

[dry narwhal]

yeah

[lofty swift]

You want to get into Awakened Monoliths asap. Once there yeah pretty much what you said

[native sail]

Empowered*

[orchid turret]

How do I get there?

[dry narwhal]

complete the 3 level 90 monoliths then go to the thing in between the 3

[tidal pilot]

Hi folks! Any thoughts on the best class/build for a first time playthrough. I've got about 8k hours played in Path of Exile and I tend to gravitate toward explodey archetypes.

[dry narwhal]

the best class is the one that looks the coolest to you

click on them and see what masteries they have and some skills and if there's anything that tickles your fancy, try it!

[buoyant hawk]

i think void knight spin to win is strong and easy to play for 1st time . just take abit of grinding for specific unique items , literally spin to objectives and win so might be boring for some people , but imo its fkin strong . my 1st class was ignite minions necromancer and even i capped out alot of defensives stats , im still struggling at 100-120 corruption . meanwhile my void knight i can push to 300 corruption easily

[tidal pilot]

I'm a huge fan of spin to win style builds. that might be the play! thx for the input. 😄

[orchid turret]

Void knight warpath has been a breeze but I really want to play blade dancer just don’t know how to go about it

I stopped at 27 because I just wasn’t doing enough

[native sail]

SD, Poison, bleed, plenty really

[lofty swift]

Make one, try each skill until you find one you like?

[buoyant hawk]

no worries 😁 ! since u said u like spinning builds . Swarmblade build from primalist class ( druid mastery ) can be interesting for u - basically u summon bugs then convert them into tornado spinning around u . Shame on me i dont have times to research and invent builds for myself . So i look up people builds on lastepoch build guilds . incase u also want to see how ppl running the build . but i still suggest just play around and build what u like then check the builds later if u r struggling at late game 👍 .

[lofty swift]

Scaling the damage is pretty standard for rpgs. Not too different from PoE.

[orchid turret]

I was following a action rpg vid on shadow blades but he didn’t really go into depth on how to get there

Since I’m at like 80 with VK warpath I’ll go back to my 27 blade dancer and give it another go

[tidal pilot]

bug summoning tornado action sounds pretty dope lol

[dry narwhal]

it sounds better than it feels to play

personally

[buoyant hawk]

need a few unique items to make it feel good , otherwise quitehard to stay on swarm form all the times . making a druid 2 days ago then i found that build , luckily i have enough all unique items it needed to work . i dont think it will feel great for a 1st timer

[buoyant hawk]

my druid is like lvl 50 atm so i dont know how it will be at end game , maybe i will be getting rolled by mobs . but void knight for sure its strong cuz he have gigachad energy

[tidal pilot]

Yeah I think Void Knight's the one. Pulled the trigger, games downloading. Les gooo

[buoyant hawk]

pogger and hope u have fun 😁 !

[tidal pilot]

thx m8 😄

[lofty swift]

How long is 4 meters in game?

Asking mostly due to this passive:

[dry narwhal]

i wouldnt bother with that passive lol

[lofty swift]

Really?

[dry narwhal]

why get small aoe when you can get more damage

[lofty swift]

But it does give more dmg

That aoe does dmg

[dry narwhal]

it doesn't give more damage though

that would be an increase to damage sure

[lofty swift]

Im just wondering how far I need to be to proc it

Havent decided to go for it

[native sail]

A distance

Meters is hard to really tell in games

[carmine coyote]

'nearby' should be around 6-8m, so a bit closer to that

[knotty tinsel]

the ring around the dummy in end of time is a round number of meters I remember that much

was it 10?

[viscid musk]

No, should be 4

hope this helps

I tested both Bastion + Warcry node with 100% increased knockback. Knockback is 2 metres by default. So 10 metres is offscreen i guess

[pseudo ocean]

Will factions be available for offline players? I'd like to still get the CoF bonuses.

[random orbit]

There are so many posts here that I can't get an overview if this is maybe asked before. Sorry in advance if it's case. I own the game but signed up for the free beta on Monday to play with my friends. It says that I get an email, but I haven't. Can't I participate the beta if I own the game?

[random orbit]

One of the devs wrote that they plan CoF to be offline too

[pseudo ocean]

Thank you!

[lunar holly]

Everyone will be able to participate. You'll most likely get an email when they open the servers. I've used the same system on another game and I got the email just before I was able to play. Also the free beta starts tomorrow, Monday is the day it ends.

[random orbit]

Thanks for the answer. Maybe I misunderstood because "sign up now" etc. From that I expected to get a sooner feedback. Ok, I wait what will happen until tomorrow

[desert quest]

Steam sends the email when they enable it. From my experience with other games it was a totally separate install and shown separately in the library.

[sleek lily]

What do you guys think about the replayability of LE compared to e.g grim dawn and poe? Rerunning the main quest and making new characters etc, is it as fun? I'm just level 40 but loving it so far. Wondering what you with hundreds of hours say about it 🙂

[knotty tinsel]

It's definitely much much less painful which is a huge deal to me personally. If you're on autopilot you get through it without much trouble or needing a solid game plan

and you can respec almost anything leading to less characters made overall. Win win

[copper fable]

Its got slightly less replayability then poe for me, mostly because of a tighter skill selection choice. PoE basically cant be beat in that regard.

But in terms of enjoyment in repeating stuff? hands down better in LE then poe because the early game is the easiest part vs PoE where the early game is arguably the hardest part.

[sleek lily]

Thanks for the insights guys

love the respec thing, reminds me of GD

Can't wait to get to LE's endgame. It's been pretty straight forward till now without hiccups

Progression is suuuuuper fun.

For once I actually understand items and what I need for my character lmao.

[sleek lily]

Is there any way to lock this pet? Each time I start the game I have to pick him 😦

[amber rain]

Does anyone know how the whole open beta accessing works when you already own the game? Like do I have to download a different branch than the current single player one to play with friends? I clicked on the sign up for beta on the steam page, but nothing happened

or will they only unlock it for downloading when it starts tomorrow?

[dry narwhal]

it will likely unlock by steam at exactly the set time, we know nothing else.

[native sail]

This is one area Mike can't help in

[dense kestrel]

how do i know if i can play the open beta?

cause i never got the email

[dry narwhal]

it hasnt started

[forest steppe]

I had a quick question hoping someone to help, I'm looking to buy the game. Just wondering if you are always connected to a server or if you play local. I have a internet connection but live pretty remote so ping is a big issue sometime. Thanks in advance!

[sharp ibex]

there is an authentication on initial launch

[native sail]

If you're only looking to play offline then you only need it for initial login.

[forest steppe]

That helps so much, thank you. Was hoping that to be the case, the main reason I haven't really gotten into other stuff like poe in the past.

[native sail]

There are plans to eventually have no internet required even for authentication but they're not quite sure how to make it work yet.

[sharp ibex]

Currently, you just have to connect for that initial authentication, then can turn steam offline when that's done.

They implement a periodic auth system where you have to only do that once every like 30 days. They are still figuring that out I believe, and I'm unsure if it will make it in 0.9

[native sail]

Zeckar I'm pretty sure they're not making 0.9 online only.

[sharp ibex]

Sorry the functionality will be the same. I thought they were having to re-implement it

"No, not at all. In fact, one of the things we're working on is the oft-requested "true offline" mode. For 0.9, 'offline' will work how it does currently, where it still requires you to log in each time to verify your account, however we want to work towards a system which say, only requires verification once every 30 days. We're excited to start getting back to our more frequent release schedule following 0.9 with more content additions and all that good stuff. - Kain

[honest acorn]

How do I sign up to the multiplayer event this weeekend? When I click "Sign up" in steam I'm just redirected to the store

[dry narwhal]

that's all you can do.

wait misread

[native sail]

Did you hit the request access button?

[dry narwhal]

you need to do to LE's store page and do that^

[honest acorn]

Oh I missunderstood. I thought since I bought the game several years ago I got access and could bring friends in for free this weekend.

Thanks for help!

Do you know if we can play endgame after chapter 4?

[copper fable]

no, MoF is disabled. You can do lightless arbor if you get keys

[dry narwhal]

not during this demo.

[honest acorn]

ok, thanks

[hybrid latch]

I have a friend who doesn't have a ton of experience with arpgs like LE except for D3, I'm looking for a simple easy and fun build that they could play during this beta weekend, any suggestions? they liked DH and Wizard when playing D3

[carmine coyote]

multishot MM or lightning blast sorc

[hybrid latch]

Thanks I'll take a look at the two on the forums

[orchid turret]

idk how you guys level blade dancer this is just annoying hahaha

[native sail]

Pretty easily.

[orchid turret]

i guess im just boo boo then

[dry narwhal]

melee flurry was actually really easy

[orchid turret]

im using cinder strike

[dry narwhal]

even without poison

[native sail]

I don't like Cinder Strike at all

[dry narwhal]

i like it in the decoy build

but its mainly a debuffer there

cinderstrike melee with new crystal swords probably gonna be a bit crazy

[orchid turret]

trying my best to stick in there i wanna see the glory of this class

[dry narwhal]

it's actually one of my least played classes

you don't have to like them all

[orchid turret]

i woudlnt say i dont like it just more of a longer start to get a build going

love the mobility and the look of the skills

just have to be more on my toes

[copper fable]

yeah BD and rogue in general I basically dont play at all, just cant get into it

I played bleed flurry when flurry was op, thats about it

[orchid turret]

all i know is i gotta get this together by lagon

i hated that boss

[native sail]

Simply do not fight him

[orchid turret]

i must

its my duty

[native sail]

I don't think I've bothered to kill him or Majasa in campaign since Majasa came out

[orchid turret]

theres a option?

[native sail]

Just go into monos

That's what I do

[orchid turret]

whaaaaaat

[native sail]

I only play campaign until I have all my passives and idols

[orchid turret]

im still low on this char 36

[native sail]

You should be like mid to late-40s by the time you have them all. Just go into monoliths after that.

[orchid turret]

good to know ty

[dry narwhal]

you only need to kill tree to get all idols

[orchid turret]

i have all the skills now to kinda hve the build but scared to take off cinder strike

i feel i need more passives

[sterile widget]

Always kill Lagon. He deserves it.

[faint cape]

You can't kill him until the mono either way

[dry narwhal]

not worth my time lol

[faint cape]

I usually use umbral as soon as I get it for rogue, and that carries me pretty well for leveling either mastery

[orchid turret]

holy moly i see the why this shadow blades is craxy now

dis is fun

[sterile widget]

Don't listen to this madness @orchid turret . You must believe

[orchid turret]

i shall skip in your honor

[sterile widget]

[orchid turret]

no if i get my mana management toigether this is it

now

[orchid turret]

@native sail when the game fully comes out im playing rogue lmao this is amazing

[native sail]

Rogue is very good, yes

It only gets better when you are able to jack defense into the sky with Bastion

[orchid turret]

The lvl 14 one increases my dmg by 28% that’s worth right?

[native sail]

I'd say so. The one you have on right now kinda sucks

Also, win+shift+S

[orchid turret]

i feel all my low,lvl gear is just better

no true upgrades

[brittle atlas]

idk, at low levels on chest I'd just be looking for hp or armor anyways tbh

damage is pretty free at low levels from passives/skill trees

and just base damage in general

[orchid turret]

my blade dancer feels really good rn

im 47 running through monos

think its a good stopping point for today

tomorrow ill kill lagon just cause in honor of @sterile widget

[native sail]

Has anyone played Bleed HOA to a reasonable level?

[sterile widget]

I will also kill Lagon, in my mind because he won't be there for open multi demo time!

[orchid turret]

So what’s the biggest part about this multi demo

Just playing with peeps?

[dry narwhal]

i forgot HoA was an ability

[native sail]

Public demo with MP basically

[orchid turret]

Ah okay

Fresh starts I’m assuming

[native sail]

Yeah

[orchid turret]

I feel since I’m so new I need to just focus on what I got so I’m ready for the big release

[native sail]

Pick whatever works best for ya

[orchid turret]

Definitely playing rogue tho

Shadow blades feels so good

[native sail]

I think they got nerfed a bit in 0.9 just a heads-up

[orchid turret]

Aw man……

[native sail]

Still usable

[dry narwhal]

lizard's newest iteration of bowmage might be my new favorite mm build

thats not jelkhor's ofc

[orchid turret]

VK warpath just too simple but if I find out later I shouldn’t do shadow blades I’ll play it

[lost tartan]

There are some new terms in this game to me.
Fire - check
Lightning - check
Cold - Check
Physical - Check
Poison - Check
Necrotic - WTH is this ??
Void - WTH is this ??

[native sail]

They're just damage types?

[dry narwhal]

damage/resistance types

[lost tartan]

I got that much, care to explain what it is ??

[native sail]

I don't know what there is to explain. It's necrotic damage and void damage

[acoustic thicket]

It's just a damage type. if you understand that much, it's no different than the others. void being the dark purple attacks you'll see from enemies or from void knights and necrotic being the light green/blue attacks you'll see

[wide sentinel]

there is nothing special about any of damage types, they are just calculated against corresponding enemy resistances thats it

[lost tartan]

so aside from the norm of physical, fire, cold, lightning and poison. they added 2 types that nobody knows how to explain what it is, just that there are 7 types of damage/resistances. Sounds like they are lacking some knowledge of things on the site.

[native sail]

You'd have a fucking aneurysm playing Grim Dawn

[lost tartan]

i have that game too

[wide sentinel]

they are self explanatory necrotic is dealt by undead enemies and void damage is coming from void creatures that are plenty explained in the game lore

not sure whats the confusion there

[native sail]

Got it so Grim Dawn's "vitality damage" and "aether damage" are fine but this game's "lacking some knowledge"

[lost tartan]

guess i haven't come across that yet

as for GD, only played it for about 20hrs, so

Thanks for your answers

[acoustic thicket]

Note if you are here asking about lore. The vast majority of players here probably have not actually read the lore at all. And just clicked through all the dialog to get to the end game

[lost tartan]

I've watched the discord chat a few days now and it has me wondering if some even play the game or just sit on discord all day and night.

[sterile widget]

Oh. Let me assure you I can do both. I have four arms.

[native sail]

Ever heard of multiple monitors?

[acoustic thicket]

Or using your phone as your discord monitor

[lost tartan]

I do run 2 computers and 5 monitors

[sterile widget]

But for real, yeah, the damage types relate to the game lore 🙂

It's a bit timey-wimey so still untangling it in my head even after running through campaign multiple times

FWIW - hottest character in the 0.9 release is The Shard. You can debate me later 😉

[wide sentinel]

now there is no point playing since devs needed a year to rebuild game on mp client and there were 0 updates

so everyone are waiting on the patch

[native sail]

I'm still playing

[dry narwhal]

im playing right now

[wide sentinel]

idk i dont have any builds left to try out on the class that i play, so just waiting on the online client

[sterile widget]

Siri and the Android / Samsung / whatever one do text to voice and voice to text, so if you use your phone for Discord, things can get pretty wild

[acoustic thicket]

I'm not playing, and haven't played since the start of the closed MP event recently. and only played that cuz it was 0.9 and i was playing with dread

[lost tartan]

I got a pally to 60 and did a few monos, now starting on toon 2 for a build guide

[sterile hare]

So i had bought LE through steam in 2021, and i just saw on steam that it comes with ardent gladiator pack and 350 cosmetic coins. Which i haven't received. DId i miss something or they are yet to be rolled out ?

[dry narwhal]

cause those don't exist yet

that's all an eventuality

[sterile hare]

Ahh. So they will be given upon release 1.0 patch ?

[dry narwhal]

im not a dev so i cannot say yes or no

[lost tartan]

I bought mine online (steam sucks) a few days ago, paid for the gladiator pack, was able to download the game, haven't seen the pets yet

[dry narwhal]

it might happen 1.0 it might be later

[sterile widget]

I believe they said the cosmetic coins would be visible once 0.9 releases as that is the first minimum viable cosmetics store

[verbal burrow]

I need to signup the beta if i already have the game?

[dry narwhal]

yes

if you intend to play a 4 chapter demo

if not then the update is in like 2 weeks

[verbal burrow]

Thank you so much!

[stiff notch]

Do I need to update my client for 0.9? or there is new client for that?

[dry narwhal]

.9 isn't out for 2 weeks

[lost tartan]

the Demo is steam only and is seperate and anything done on it will be wiped when over. what you currently have will update to 0.9 on march 9th

[dry narwhal]

unless you mean the standalone client in which case you should connect your standalone account to steam on the website

[stiff notch]

but steam client sucks ;w;

[dry narwhal]

.9 is only available on steam

from EHG themselves, they do not have the ability to support the standalone at the moment

[stiff notch]

sad to know, the performance on the standalone was better for me.

time to redownload steams xD

[lost tartan]

i downloaded the game and playing it standalone, not using steam

[dry narwhal]

.9 has huge performance upgrades incoming, i've played it myself

you're going to need it on steam for .9

[stiff notch]

Already downloading :)!

[lost tartan]

the demo is steam only. The beta that we are playing now is able to be played on steam or standalone.

I went to the website and purchased the gladiator pack, I was able to download the standalone and play it without having steam up.

Now if you want to play the demo of 0.9, you will have to use steam

[acoustic thicket]

you will end up having to redeem the game on steam (which you can do without buying it again) if you want to participate in 0.9 multiplayer period. as it handles the multiplayer through steam.

[lost tartan]

i'm not messing with the demo. I will wait until march 9th and update my standalone then

[acoustic thicket]

Your standalone will not be able to play multiplayer on the 9th.

You have to use the steam version to particpate in multiplayer period, not just the demo.

[lost tartan]

I'll look into that

[wide sentinel]

ye standalone client will not be updated in march. all next patches will be on steam unless they decide to change that

but i think u can still play offline version from steam, just need to login into steam and after that it doesnt matter

[lost tartan]

where does it say that the standalone won't be updated ?

[acoustic thicket]

Mike has mentioned it

[lost tartan]

where, link to that ?

[wide sentinel]

in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs

devs respond there

[lost tartan]

ok

[stiff notch]

steam old save just deleted all of my standalone save files 😭

replaced all of it

lmao

[dry narwhal]

they've gotta be somewhere still

[ivory plume]

Have they said at what time the game is open?

[dry narwhal]

the #news announcement has it in your timezone

[ivory plume]

Ohh yah, thx 🙂

[lost tartan]

so at 10am, what time zone ???

[dry narwhal]

CST

[digital oasis]

The announcement is in your time zone

[dry narwhal]

Central Standard Time

[digital oasis]

Like it says 17:00 for me as I'm in central europe

[dry narwhal]

if it says 10 am for you then you are in CST

[lost tartan]

what sucks with trading is that crafting materials cannot be traded, only the items, white, magic, rare, unique, legendaries and sets

[sterile hare]

if you play the game, you will know that crafting mats are a bit easy to come. the items as well the bases themselves are a bit rare

[frosty dew]

Anyone know if we gonna get the acess last minute ? or i just don't get picked up for this week end ?

[dry narwhal]

We will know when it starts in about 7 hours.

[frosty dew]

if someone already get the access we would know it know :/

[dry narwhal]

That's up to steam, not anyone else.

[iron girder]

So you will have to download from scratch I guess when it does release? Can pre-load or anything?

[desert quest]

Steam tests come as a totally separate install. I guess that is how they manage ownership without giving actual game

[jade fox]

How long will this new demo that they release today last?

[reef lagoon]

Will we be able to do Monoliths with our friends during the multi player open beta ?

[brittle atlas]

No, this weekend is a short demo through chapter 4 content. Monoliths are disabled.

[high ether]

oh some one yesterday was saying monoliths weren't disabled

[unique solar]

Are they still approving people for the playtest?

[nocturne narwhal]

all you gotta do is click the link 🙂

emails haven't started coming out yet but you'll be set

[unique solar]

What link?

[nocturne narwhal]

https://discord.com/events/368953963267096586/1076285950629527553

[unique solar]

oh okay so go to the steam page and hit request?

[nocturne narwhal]

si

[unique solar]

ty

[cold geyser]

Anyone knows if i will be able to play the 0.9 beta with Geforce now?

[terse roost]

I dont see why you wouldn't be able to. tho its not "officially" supported from my understanding. think the biggest issue ive seen is you cant really import/export loot filters

[stiff notch]

wait... I have to redownload it all over again?!

what?

[cinder fossil]

its a separate client

[desert quest]

That is how Steam works

[cinder fossil]

honestly i dont see a point in playing if you already own it

just wait until march

[stiff notch]

then why didn't they open the download ahead of time ._."?

so I can preload it

[dry narwhal]

steam will not do that

[cold geyser]

Does not work since its a separate game so cant launch it on geforce now if they dont add the "multiplayer beta test" into geforce now

[terse roost]

ah, my bad

[high relic]

when can you add new players?

hugh sorry

new friend

[dry narwhal]

H for social

as soon as you get in game you can add people

[high relic]

hmm

maybe its bugging

trying to add friends and it's not showing up

[obsidian basin]

is there a way to log out of your account? I had an account already through steam sharing the game and I want to login with that one.

[small stratus]

I have requested access a couple of days ago, but its not been granted. Anybody else having that issue?

[native sail]

It should automatically be in your library now.

[nimble falcon]

restart steam and check library.

[small stratus]

aahh there it is, thanks @nimble falcon

[twin briar]

not sure this would be best channel, but im looking to level new character this week, have a few friend that might level as well, 1 for the first time. how is class balance at the moment? all the classes feel pretty smooth and rewarding for the 1-60 etc

[hard dew]

anyone getting this error? any idea how to fix?

[native sail]

All classes are good. Some are easier to level than others but they all have viable builds.

[forest steppe]

Is the demo always online? Wondering if the stuttering im getting is ping or my potato.

[native sail]

The demo is always online yes

Its primary purpose is a public multiplayer demo

[forest steppe]

My potato prevails! Thanks.

[native sail]

Lol yeah, no worries

0.9 will still have the offline option don't worry.

[elfin oracle]

i have an infinite spinner on multiplayer login

sad

[twin briar]

good to hear. i know sometimes as they balance things,certain classes can get left behind for a bit

[copper fable]

Shaman

[naive delta]

Is it possible to drop trade people currently in partys?

[native sail]

No.

But if they're in the area with you when it drops you can gift it to them.

[naive delta]

Ah k so D3 style

Ty @native sail

[native sail]

No prob. There will be proper trade eventually as per #news but it's gonna be a while

[split quail]

Is it better to wait for a good Rare item to roll, or find an item with high forging potential and craft on it?

[native sail]

Usually go with the former.

[split quail]

Why do mobs ignore my minions and only attack me most of the time?

[elfin oracle]

any solution to infinite spinner on login?

[glacial bear]

any1 other isnt able to choose his mastery ?`if i klick on void knight and confirm i get the quest done sound and effect but my mastery didnt unlock 😦

[young goblet]

is the server down or this is a me problem ? xD

im in nvm

[dull dagger]

are the servers overloaded? I cant connect

[glacial bear]

nah they have some server issues

but they work on it

[neat salmon]

Seems to just be selective, i got kicked, cant rejoin but my party member is still on

So yeah give it some mimutes for the devs to figure it out and keep retrying

[glacial bear]

im able to play too on EU West server

[high halo]

Do i have to sign up if I own the game already?

[glacial bear]

yeah its a different game version

have a seperate launch button

[high halo]

oke

thank you

[dense smelt]

Is there a city where you can see other players?

[native sail]

Not yet afaik

[novel sonnet]

infinite loading? do i let it sit until i get in?

[silver oyster]

the servers are having issues with the number of people right now

[native sail]

Servers are a little jank right now, sometimes relogging helps

[novel sonnet]

[buoyant roost]

Hey all, does Barbed Thicket from Spriggan Form stack?

[novel sonnet]

oki doki

i got in ty guys

[brave ibex]

Yea

[zealous token]

If I own the game already and want to play with a friend on the playtest do I need to swap to internaltest build or do something else?

[sturdy crane]

Is this a unique item drop? How can I pick it up?

[native sail]

Store page for the client you need

[native sail]

Hit Z or alt+Z

[zealous token]

Bugger

[sturdy crane]

Ty! Damn, I was wondering why no items showed, who knows what I already missed 😂

[dense smelt]

Will characters in the playtest be deleted after the test?

[native sail]

Yes.

[native sail]

Yeah it happens, it's a really common thing posted here

[sturdy crane]

There was no tutorial for that at that point in the game yet, or did I miss it?

[native sail]

Nah, there's no tooltip for it or anything. It's just a feature to clear your screen really. Some people hit it on accident.

Hence why it got changed to alt+Z

But people who have had the game since before the change didn't get theirs updated automatically.

[zealous token]

thanks

[native sail]

[sturdy crane]

Yeah I have a lvl88 or so Paladin from a year or so ago, but I forgot everything, hehe

[native sail]

Yup, you're from before the change

[sturdy crane]

I'm from the last epoch 💀

[pulsar tree]

How do I join games?

[native sail]

H for Homies.

There is no "public party" system in game

Ask around in global, join friends if you have em, or pop over to #👥┃lfg

[pulsar tree]

Awww

Aight, thanks \o/

[native sail]

[tired plank]

anyone know why my mouse cursor spazzes out and clicks don't register?

[safe cradle]

what does no suffix mean sometimes when i try to forge runes into weapons?

[native sail]

Chuck a screenshot real quick?

[safe cradle]

nvm i think i figured it out. what exactly are the little shards for exactly though?

[native sail]

Those are crafting materials. You slap em on an item to add that affix to it.

[safe cradle]

ohhh i see now. do you need like 5 of them to make one or something?

[native sail]

Nah. One shard = one tier

You can craft up to tier 5, tier 6 and 7 are drops only

Each craft takes a random amount of FP (I believe the range is listed in the bottom of the tab while looking at it)

[safe cradle]

oh ok how do you combine multiple to make like tier 3?

[native sail]

You don't combine them, they just go one tier at a time as you keep crafting

[safe cradle]

ohhh gotcha and last one was how exactly do i add shards to the material list? it wont let me drag and drop was a bit confused

[native sail]

In your inventory there is a "transfer crafting materials" button, hit that

[safe cradle]

jeeez im blind

thanks deias LOL

[native sail]

No prob. You'd be surprised how common that is tbh

[safe cradle]

are glyphs drops only or are they craftable too?

[native sail]

Those are drops

[safe cradle]

ah gotcha. and yeah i bet lmao. i try to read everything but i guess i missed it

[native sail]

A way to get shards outside of drops is to take an item you aren't going to use but with affixes you want and then put it into the crafting thing and either use a rune of shattering or a rune of removal. Other than that, all materials are dropped.

[modern fjord]

Anyone else having a problem with entering the game atm? On the beta that is. I was trying to login into my character but it's saying that I cannot login to multiplayer atm

[native sail]

Try relogging.

[modern fjord]

I did, event turned the game off and on, to no avail

[safe cradle]

thanks @native sail !

[native sail]

Hmm.... check if you can re-opt in on the store page.

[native sail]

No problem. I do my best to help how I can with what I can.

[stray gale]

??? anyone know why? invalid platform

[native sail]

alright, don't know that one.

[modern fjord]

Bit weird

[wide sentinel]

are u sure that you opened the right version and not the client from the previous playtest

[modern fjord]

Well, it just seems to work now, probably the servers were dying

[crystal tartan]

Question, can I play the beta with the same account in which I already own the game? it's making me create a new one when I launch the MP beta

[native sail]

No, it isn't under the same authorization

[hybrid latch]

Anyone know what would cause LE-92 Failed due to gamemode mismatch while trying to play with my friend?

nvm they accidentally made a hardcore character

[unkempt patio]

Is there a dummy accessible for the playtest or nah?

[native sail]

I don't think so

[wind shoal]

Hi all Is the Online version work ? internaltest BETA ?

[native sail]

Not that one. Go to the store page.

[wind shoal]

I have the original version ? but ok I ll chesk it

thk

[native sail]

It's a separate client listed on the store page

[wind shoal]

OK found the button .. 🙂 thks

[native sail]

No problem

[thorny glen]

So...how i can check the new skill visuals they are in the beta too?

[unkempt patio]

After you get to the end of the demo, where's the best place to keep getting xp?

[random sun]

So once 0.9 multiplayer is live, the 0.9 characters will not switch to Offline once 1.0 drops. Right?

[copper fable]

correct.

[random sun]

sweet, ty

[lost scarab]

for the MP test do i install the normal version or the beta internal test?

and is it live yet?

[native sail]

Go to the store page, it's separate.

[lost scarab]

ahh i see thank you!

[orchid turret]

soooo hows the event?

[copper fable]

i just wanted to look at some of the changed between the two betas. So for me? I beat it huzzah! farming chap 4 ending now for funzies

https://i.imgur.com/PDaJeDW.png Speaking of which...

hehe

[half pier]

Is monolith available in open beta?

[copper fable]

No, it is disabled

[exotic estuary]

Are you using a 32bit version of Windows?

[stray gale]

no 64, but i works after a reinstall

[charred zinc]

does the mark for death node work with bone curse aura?

[buoyant roost]

hmm... seems to me like there might be a good build centered around serpent venom now. Kinda cool!

Only problem being... only 1 stack.

Ah wait... nevermind... cannot stack.

at all

[junior knoll]

Is the Paladin the only support oriented build?

[severe crest]

Primalist has support abilities and a support companion (Summon Spriggan)

[silk star]

what causes this if we are both on sc nvm he picked hc

[next shore]

Can affixes that appear only on class-specific bases be transferred to the uniques with cache of eternity, to use with other class?

[native sail]

It will lock the resulting legendary to the class the affix belongs to

[next shore]

Ty

[sonic kraken]

Does that work if I have blade explosions? (no recall)

[lucid holly]

are the multiplayer beta display names a separate pool? I can't register an account with the same name and email I picked when I started the game

[primal barn]

are the 2 new factions already in 0.9?

[dry narwhal]

No.

They will not be in game for quite a while yet i imagine.

[sonic kraken]

Eh now that the hard part about MP is done i'd expect updates to generally come up a bit quicker

[tender ledge]

Question - will characters from the open weekend carry over to 0.9 ie - tradable items?

[sonic kraken]

No, and trading won't be in 0.9

[tender ledge]

thanks

[sleek lily]

Im struggling to understand what's better for me as a lightning mage.

Should I prioritize spell dmg over lightning damage?

I think Ill continue using mine due to the crit chance, but still, I don't really understand what is better 🤔

[old burrow]

When can we access monoliths?

[sleek lily]

ty

why tho? Lightnigs dmg vs spell?

thanks

[dry narwhal]

In the demo? You can't

In normal game technically as soon as you reach the end of time

[old burrow]

Thought we could do some monos

[neat salmon]

lvl 26 monoliths monkaSPIN

[sonic kraken]

Technically as soon as you reach end of time. "Officially" around level 50

[old burrow]

That I knew, I asked cause of demo

[vale relic]

What are builds that can perform well both in a party and solo setting for 0.9? I'd say something like necro would be the obvious choice with dread shade aura, but what are some less obivous ones?

[sonic kraken]

Paladin has a bunch of team buffs and a cracked aura

[dry narwhal]

Any rogue using decoy is kinda nice

[sonic kraken]

To be honest I think all classes bring something to the table for party play

[vale relic]

Can you elaborate? I'm new to LE (but a PoE veteran)

[sonic kraken]

Decoy taunts enemies. Which means that the enemies won't attack your buddies so you don't need to tank as much

[vale relic]

That's fair. I feel like that's a minor qol and not something you can rely on in terms of giving up tankiness on your build

[sonic kraken]

You can also build it so that it inflicts a bunch of debuffs on enemies and gives haste to allies

[vale relic]

Ah, that's more like it

[sonic kraken]

Don't underestimate the decoy. It might look innocent but that thing is a beast

[vale relic]

I feel like multiplayer synergies needs to come together so they are more than the sum of their parts. At least that's how it is in other arpgs

Which is why it can be pretty specific what classes/builds makes sense for it

[sonic kraken]

Well until now the characters were mainly designed around solo play. Putting too much focus on party play will alienate the people who prefer to play solo

[neat salmon]

Also almost all the skills are flexible enough in their trees to swap around dmg types (bleeding into poison or any elemental combo or physical into fire etc) where builds can naturally compliment eachother dps wise

You would think rogue and mage wouldnt go well but heres comes BOWMAGE into fire shred sorcerer and you are a glasscannon grp of the ages

[burnt arch]

Hi all, I have a weird question. I'm back to the game since a long time and in every recent video I see about necromancers, they have this new bone golem icon. In game, I still have the old orange one which makes me think there is a problem. I verified my files with Steam but everything is ok. Is it linked to my old character ?

My bone golem icon is indeed not the one from the build planner

[vale relic]

I completely agree. I don't want to change anything for the sake of party play, but as an arpg player i can't help but want to optimize when playing with friends

[lunar holly]

the updated icon is part of the multiplayer builds, you've probably seen videos with footage from the multiplayer test events, in your game version (0.8.5F) that's the proper icon

[burnt arch]

Oooh ok, thanks a lot for the calrification 👍 👌

Did the skills changed as well ? Because the "death chilled golem" node that I see in those vids is also not present in my game...

[lunar holly]

yep, you can see the updated skills here: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ it's been updated with the skill trees from 0.9 which will be released on March 9th

btw in case you missed it there's an ongoing open beta for multiplayer if you wanna check it: #news message

[burnt arch]

Many thanks for the info and sorry again for the stupid questions. I will definitely comeback on the 9th then 🙂

[sonic kraken]

There is no stupid questions. Only stupid answers

[surreal thunder]

Hey guys , i was playing minions and the ui on top left disappeared, i cant figure out how or why unfortunately even though i checked keybinds, using Delete to show or make UI disappear doesnt bring it back. Any ideas?

[twin oak]

That's a visual bug, it comes back after restarting the client

[surreal thunder]

ty mate i'll go do that

[sleek lily]

How do I unlock dual wielding on my rogue?

[willow bone]

Twin Blade passive

[sleek lily]

Thank u 😍

[buoyant roost]

Hey all, random question. Swarmblade form ahs a node which increases damage per bleed consumed to empower locust swarm. It also has a node to base things off of minion damage. Would these things be multiplicative or additive? Reason I'm asking is because Manifest Armor has some funky interactions with this (stats being multiplicative with minion damage increase %) and I'm wondering if the same sorta thing would occur.

[desert quest]

You can do it through settings on chat itself instead of game settings. Hit enter and click on cog top right of chat window

[dawn trail]

Can someone confirm I cannot change the controller button assignments
? I am trying but nothing happens button doesnt change.

[sonic kraken]

Besides a passive point does leveling up give anything else?

[faint cape]

The bleed node applies increased damage, so it should be additive with your increased minion damage. Would have to be tested though, since the minion scaling node is quite unusual.

[faint cape]

Aside from random specific things that scale from level, you get flat potion health, flat minion health (based on the skill), and "minion power" based on level (see character sheet)

[timid hemlock]

hello, do i still need to have [internaltest] on my LE on steam?

[warm yew]

No - that was public-facing for the last Multiplayer event, and can be removed at this point; it may make a return as a PTR in the future, but I'm sure there will be a fresh set of instructions at that point.

[timid hemlock]

thank you!

[vernal burrow]

I think im almost ready to publish my build. what should i do to test it to the max to make sure it actually performs at high levels? It clears stuff pretty well but i want to know what content i should test it on

[rocky mango]

Has anyone noticed that the game is bug at the passive skill branch "Unbound Necromancy" when raising the specializations for "Summon Skeleton"?

It says my minions get 40% critical chance but when checking the stats panel, none of the stats are added.

[warm yew]

Ah - it's "Minions get +40% Increased Critical Strike Chance" - and your minion-stats aren't displayed directly.

[rocky mango]

yes, it seems that some of the specializations of the "Summon Skeleton" skill don't add stats, but skills that increase the number of minions are still working.

[acoustic thicket]

anyone know what this failed solo challenge th ing is when partying with friends?

can't seem to re-invite people

[warm yew]

Stats that are added to your minions are added they're just not displayed anywhere. The same thing happens when you add Minion Damage or Health from the skill-trees or passive-trees, and are one of the big pushes to improve the character sheets to show skill-specific numbers

[copper fable]

if you have been in area for a long time

resummon stuff

if you level up, add some passives like crit chance

any skeletons that were alive already wont get it

minions currently "snapshot" when cast

so they didnt have that crit when you cast them, so they dont get it when you spec it

if you suspect its still bugged after resummoning everything file a bug report, but its very hard to prove something like "40% crit chance" is bugged

since its a very small benefit

[rocky mango]

So as you said, the character and minions stats information does not show the stats added from skill-trees or passive-trees, but only shows stats add from weapons or items, is that so?

[warm yew]

Anyone have a screenshot of the Character Sheet? I don't remember it having any lines for your Minion Damage, at all - the other Increased Damage lines are for You. (It may have gone through an update with this release, I haven't played the demo version this weekend)

[dense smelt]

Will the first cycle start on 9 March? I don't know whether to start the game or wait for the release of the new version.

[native sail]

The first actual cycle may come with 1.0, they aren't sure yet.

[onyx root]

Hi, is "Saving Last Refuge" quest bugged? Im on last point, go back to Elder Gaspar and i cannot turn in the quest

[small sinew]

Dudes, long latency in party game was fixed or no?
tag me with answer pls

[sleek lily]

Hey! Im level 38 currently and struggling a bit with low hp / mana atm.

What should I do? I don't really know if I should grind or what to do, or if I'm just bad. Would be nice with some input regarding my stats for my lvl

[copper fable]

You want to look for defensive affixes first and formost imo. Health/resistances early on help a lot

You dont need to cap resistances, but they help. But you want as much health as you can get

[sleek lily]

Good to know, thanks. I seem to struggle a lot with low mana, and need to use the focus spell every other second. Any tips there?

[copper fable]

You need to be wary of how you build skills, mana is a huge limiter in this game by design. You are intended to find solutions to your mana, or simply spec abilities around using less mana.

And if you do find you use focus alot, but dont exactly have a large pool, look into speccing the burst stuff in focus

you can easily use focus for 1 second every pack and with burst nodes it will heal like 60~ mana which should allow you to use your skills enough to clear packs

Unfortunately im not that versed in Sorc or its mana problems as I dont really play with static orb which has a high mana cost, so you might need more sorc based advise for solving that problem.

[sleek lily]

Ahhh ok, cool. Will do. I love my build so far, I'm following a link from youtube: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/pA6PYqLB

HP is fine as I like kiting, but spamming static orb + teleport drains mana like crazy lol.

Thanks mate, appreciate the help!

[copper fable]

yeah see I just dont know how you sustain mana on a build like this personally lol. you will basically always be oom if your main clearing skill costs a whopping 38 mana cost per cast.

But im not really sure what this build is doing since you also seem to take a non single target focused Lightning blast.

oh nvm you do

okay, yeah I dunno ask sorc players I guess, 38 mana is insane lol

[sleek lily]

Haha, agreed. But it hits like crazy, maybe I just need to spam it less 😅

[twin oak]

Instead of spamming static orb I like to mix it with lightning blast
Get mana regen on gear
If you are specializing in focus you have some nodes to increase the amount of mana you regain
Flame ward has some mana regen nodes
Teleport can be used to give you a free cast
Static orb has nodes to regain part of its cost

And you also can make it so lightning blast doesn't consume mana with certain types of wand and in the skill tree

[twin oak]

But yeah mostly try to spam it less

[mellow crow]

Had this issue yesterday and figured id give it some time and come back and its still an issue. Anyone know if there is a fix for this?

[mint wharf]

Soo if my friend and I both own the game, can we continue to play multiplayer?? We reached the end of the "demo"

[dry narwhal]

no you cannot

the update will release march 9th and you will have to start new characters

[ashen loom]

hey i have a qustion when the beta end if i buy the game i can keep the caracter that i create ?

[raw fern]

No

Everyone starts fresh on March 9

In online

What i'm trying to say is that this event is voided, all characters created will be deleted/not available on march 9

i'm playing rocket League/drinking beer and trying to answer questions on the discord 😄 Multitask

[ashen loom]

ty

[young goblet]

maybe someone asked this here , but can i respec from void knight to force guard or paladin ? and if so how ? i cant find

[native sail]

You cannot change mastery.

[dry narwhal]

^

[young goblet]

really ? 😦 oh

[dry narwhal]

you can pick passives from your nonmastered class (to a point)

so you still have plenty of options 🙂

[young goblet]

yh i saw that , but i wanted to try the 3 subclasses , ill try the skills , at least tyyy anyways

[dry narwhal]

level every subclass

😈

[young goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/think-smart-gif-22411928

[pallid crag]

does cast speed affect channeling?

[native sail]

Nope

[pallid crag]

didn't think so

thanks

just kinda annoying channeling fireball is behind cast speed

[river drift]

Hello, can anyone tell me if the 0.9 beta works on linux steam? or is it windows only? the steam client does not seem to want to install even after a full reboot+restart... maybe I'm doing something wrong?

[native sail]

There was a discussion about it earlier, try searching for it maybe?

[river drift]

I did try to find it... maybe a different channel? any idea which one?

[dry narwhal]

you should be able to type linux in the search bar

i'm not sure if the word Proton means anything to you (im a linux noob these days) but i've heard suceess with that

[native sail]

A quick search lands me seeing stuff about proton

[river drift]

Proton is not the issue, I seem to have the same issue as other linuxers... 0.85 runs great but no patching to 0.9 possible

[dry narwhal]

ah, damn

[ember shore]

How do you get to the multiplayer prompt?

[native sail]

Are you on the right client?

[ember shore]

yes3

[dry narwhal]

do you have it downloaded from the steam store?

[ember shore]

ye

[native sail]

Did you try hitting H?

[ember shore]

im in the multiplayer beta

ahh okay there it is thanks

[dry narwhal]

yeah H for the homies

[visual sun]

I've been looking for an answer about this but can't find anything. Does increased melee damage affect bleed damage, or other damage over time effects? What about melee physical damage? I know increased physical damage does, but I'm wondering if melee causes it to not anymore.

[native sail]

Melee damage should not affect DoT effects

[visual sun]

Thank you!

[solemn raptor]

can someone help a noob? Im stuck on a main quest, i dont know how to get there

[pallid crag]

where are you at? you might have to go back and fight the emperor again

[brittle atlas]

If you missed the waypoint in that zone, yeah, you need to go fight the emperor again

[solemn raptor]

where do i go to fight it

[brittle atlas]

Imperal Era, Immortal Citadel or something like that?

[pallid crag]

yeah

[quasi reef]

is the multiplayer just the first 4 chapters for everybody or just those who don't own the game (friend doesn't own the game, i do)

[solemn raptor]

here?

thank you

[brittle atlas]

yep

[solemn raptor]

the map and timelines are confusing

[brittle atlas]

it's an open demo for everyone basically, you don't need to own the game to play this event.

[quasi reef]

got ya. so regardless of ownership or not this multiplayer event only includes the 4 chapters.

[brittle atlas]

yep

[pallid crag]

yeah

but is more than enough i think for you to form an opinion on whether or not to buy it

[native sail]

^ that's my opinion too

[quasi reef]

he will be playing for sure just didn't know how much content there would be. He will purchase when patch drops

[brittle atlas]

It's kind of odd to me to demo this section of the game honestly, I feel like it's probably the weakest section of the campaign

the zones have gotten some visual touchups obviously, but the gameplay and quest design is a bit dated now compared to the more recent stuff

[buoyant hawk]

does damage over time affects on cold dot ? or only elemental damage over times increase cold dot ?

[native sail]

Both. Ele over time is just a higher value.

[buoyant hawk]

thanks , i was abit confusing there haha

[native sail]

Hovering over skills to see scaling tags usually helps.

[buoyant hawk]

yeah i usually do that , i just checked on wiki before i ask , did not see cold dot on it so was abit confusing

[native sail]

Don't touch the wiki

It is outdated as hell

Use lastepochtools.com

[buoyant hawk]

ah cool , good thing to know

never touch wiki again xD

[native sail]

[faint cape]

Just to be nit-picky, DOT can be melee damage, but ailments aren't melee

[wind shoal]

Hi All .. I get to outpost or concil and don't see any other players ? is that only in the 0.9 version ?

[native sail]

You can't see other players outside of your party yet. They plan for hubs eventually they just haven't been able to do it yet

[visual sun]

Is there an option to disable showing minions on the minimap? They're even drawn above player icons- we often lose track of eachother.

[wind shoal]

ha ok They talk about it .. I was confuse.. 🙂 thks

[native sail]

[wind shoal]

it will come later.. 🙂

[grand flame]

normal to stare at this for 20 minutes trying to get in?

[faint cape]

Relog/restart

[grand flame]

have tried restarting the game three times. guess it's not quite ready for primetime

[rare ore]

Once you hit the end of demo, is it mainly just farm Harton and hope for keys atm?

[native sail]

PRetty much

[rare ore]

Ok. ANy recommendations for what to use a rune of ascension on for a blademaster umbral blades build?

Also I saw someone mention a way of seeing damage breakdowns in parties, is that available for solos too?

[native sail]

Not particularly. Try amulets for Bleeding Heart I suppose

[native sail]

Not sure what you mean

[rare ore]

Already got that as a drop xD so will try other slots I guess

[native sail]

Fair enough lmao

[rare ore]

Thought I saw someone mention there being like a dps tracker or something when in a party, I may be mistaken though

[native sail]

Don't believe there is

There's no accurate DPS benchmarkers(?) in the game by design

[rare ore]

Ah alright

Not sure how I feel about that, I like having an idea of where my damage is coming from and/or lacking so I can try to build better xD

Like in particular atm I wanna have an idea of how much my bleeds are contributing vs just the hits of the bladestorm

[native sail]

They just don't want us to have a way to instantly look at it and go "this is the objective best way to do this" and remove decision making

[rare ore]

Ah, I get the sentiment but there will always be a way for that to happen xD if I had to guess, whatever the first serious endgame boss is will likely be a benchmark for people

[native sail]

Bosses have adaptive damage reduction :P

[rare ore]

Not having data though is a double edged sword imo, since not having a way to see what is failing leads to less possible decisions too

o_O Oh?

[acoustic thicket]

Having seen how even just seeing total dps in game for torchlight infinite turned out. i can see why they'd not be too fond of having something like a dps tracker

[native sail]

Well trust me, you feel when something doesn't work in this game

[rare ore]

Makes sense. Like I said though, at least my particular situation atm is trying to figure out how impactful my dots are

Unless it is just intended to build for them anyways at all times

[native sail]

Those are weird to calculate due to many reasons

[native sail]

Nah, plenty of hit based builds

[rare ore]

Well yeah :P I am hit based right now but also stacking a lot of bleed, that is why I wanted to see how much my bleeds were doignin comparison xD

But with how many dot nodes there are in passives it feels like you are intended to at least have them anyways even if they arent your main damage

[native sail]

Nope, just there for variety

[rare ore]

Ah ok

[native sail]

Some hit-based builds (depending on skill) do take a lot of application for ailments because sometimes their skill has a thing to deal more damage per ailment on the enemy

Shurikens, for example

[rare ore]

YEah, I started as shurikens but I really like Umbral Blades