❔┃ask-the-community

[austere hound]

Reading 🤣 I also doesn't read and miss important things

[spark bane]

good thing the first dungeon forces us to try it with a low level unique so we can fail, due to that stupid process, with an item less valuable to us

[austere hound]

Until I looked up a guide it didn't occur to me that I could avoid julras screen wide explosion with switching time

[vapid aspen]

I've never failed that...

Also like

[spark bane]

It didnt help that the quest log says "continue forward in the dungeon"

[vapid aspen]

Well I guess they could have made it so that you need to switch to ruined to get out of room

[spark bane]

yes

[austere hound]

Well can't be bad to give that feedback in #368968647114227723

[spark bane]

that would have been ideal, and they should implement that

[vapid aspen]

Could be as simple as a confirmation before leaving saying "You left an item in cache, its gonna be deleted"

[spark bane]

Agreed

[spark bane]

if it weren't for the quest log, making me think that continuing the dungeon would give me the sealed item, I would've stayed in that area until I got an answer

[vapid aspen]

Still I think reading the text on the screen telling you what to do is kinda a no brainer

[brittle atlas]

after putting items in the cache in divine era

[spark bane]

Well, it didnt help, and I doubt I am the only person to experience this, so unless we want to continue making some players extremely frustrated, they will want to make another fail safe

[spark bane]

You read in-game arpg text?! 😮 I havent read any in decades and this was the first time it's come back to bite me. But, myself aside, people read less now, and will continue to read less, so.... they should probably factor that in, and save us from ourselves. (side note, I did look over this page many times, but the one sentence that matters is tucked away and not in the FAQ: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/legendary-items-and-eternity-cache/45738)

[warm yew]

You also can't lose items that way - the next dungeon run will still have it.

[vapid aspen]

There is literally a gif of it

no words required

[spark bane]

I watched the gif, it doesn't show them press the D button, they cut around it

[spark bane]

Thank you!

[next burrow]

is there a way to track quest?

[outer jay]

is there a build that uses physical damage cause ive gotten way too many items that just use physical damage

[woven fulcrum]

a single quest or are you looking to know how many quests you've done?

[next burrow]

a single quest

[woven fulcrum]

single quest: the drop down on the right beneath the minimap

[outer jay]

does future strike scale on void damage?

I know it says 60 void damage but wondering if it was just a flat 60 or if it scales

[vapid aspen]

it will scale with increased void damage and iirc increased damage over time despite all happening at once

[outer jay]

ah ok ty

also should I farm up corruption or something cause my damage really sucks ass

im not getting very lucky

all the helms and everything have nothing for me at all

[dry narwhal]

are you in empowered?

[vapid aspen]

Also future strike damage is extremely poor atm

so if you're building around that... that is why

[outer jay]

nope

just bomber

[dry narwhal]

i'd say get to empowered

if you're not

[outer jay]

its wiping everything but since i dont have a movement ability im kinda fucked when it comes to the reign of dragons boss

[dry narwhal]

if you don't give him extra speed

then that move is so telegraphed you can easily get out of it

without a move skill

[outer jay]

wdym by this

[dry narwhal]

modifiers on monos

enrage at half health is a big no

i think thats the biggest culprit

[outer jay]

ah so how do I change the mods?

[dry narwhal]

mods last a certain amount of echoes

[outer jay]

oh ok

[dry narwhal]

noted by the numbers next to them

[outer jay]

i see

that was my problem lmao

[dry narwhal]

so run monos that add useless modifiers, beacons, or lost reward monos don't add any either

well useless modifiers as in ones that don't hurt your build too much

[outer jay]

lmao I didnt realise that tysm @dry narwhal

I killed him the 2nd try after that

[dry narwhal]

it took me like 6 tries my first time on (old) swipe werebear, i know the struggle

[outer jay]

I had some pretty bad mods lmao

[dry narwhal]

yeah i don't knmow how to read either sometimes xD

[outer jay]

when you pointed that out I was like holy shit im blind

[dry narwhal]

i honestly don't look at mods til im in empowered

i should lol

[outer jay]

I am peeved I keep getting minion uniques and everything but im playing vk bomber

[dry narwhal]

save 'em for if/when youdo

[outer jay]

also I might have totally missed my uhh necrotic resist

[dry narwhal]

vk bomber doesn't really need uniques so its chill

[outer jay]

i cant seem to read

its an mmo illness

[dry narwhal]

lol its a gamer illness

[outer jay]

ye lmao

[cerulean egret]

Hit level 94 on my first build and I'm looking at Primalist to make my second; how viable are Druid's multi-form clusters? I'm thinking of going Werebear Swarmblade mixed just looking at the trees, though I've seen a decent focus on just Werebear

[cerulean egret]

That or a Shuriken build, really I wanna test everything eventually

[regal gale]

Can someone explain why I get 10% to all damage when using this unique belt?

[knotty tinsel]

there's a rogue node that grants 1% increased damage per % ms, you probably have it allocated

[regal gale]

Ah, yes you are right! Forgot I had that 🙂

[regal gale]

So I beat Monolith lvl 58 and chose 62 and after finishing it I advanced to lvl 70, but what happened to 66? Do I need to complete 58 once again and chose 66 to complete it?

[knotty tinsel]

yes

as a hint as well, people that rush to endgame content tend to skip the monoliths on the "left" side of the map (so 62 and the two mono's up and left of it), because their ending bonuses are drop rate modifiers which not everyone really cares about

no harm in doing it though!

[regal gale]

I see. Thanks!

[sterile widget]

Does critical strike multiplier cap?

[minor kindle]

no, why do you think so?

[knotty tinsel]

critical strike multiplier is how much damage your crits deal so you can go to a morbillion if you want to and are able to

technically you can stack a million % crit chance also it just won't do much 😄

[vapid aspen]

happy disintegrate noises

[austere tree]

Hey, I was wondering if someone could help me understand a decision in a build from YT, please?

It's a rive-ignite build by epoch builds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQEcqylyeEI
The sigils tree is what im curious about (around 10 min 20 secs), so there's kind of a choice between more chance to make ignite stacks or just more damage - 6 percent chance to apply an ignite per point or just 6 percent more damage per point. The idea of the build btw is to apply ignites then strip them off with the 3rd attack to apply more damage which also always crits. So, more ignites, more physical damage essentially.

What i don't understand is why 6 percent chance to apply an ignite (which would make rives third hit deal 15 percent more damage if it succeeds), is better than 100 percent chance of 6 percent damage?

[vapid aspen]

Ok so first, it's not more damage from consumption, it's a buff granting increased damage that lasts 2 seconds.

I'm not actually sure which points in sigils you are referring to

In order to get to all the points he mentions as being important your tree needs to be this. You have 2 extra points and both of them go into the ignite chance

like that's basically the pathing nodes

[marsh maple]

the math does not exactly work out to be like that, you do eventually hit some diminishing returns with ignite. Tbh its more or less I forgot to put it in the ignite node. been a busy boy. Oops 🤷‍♂️

Idk why its not 4/5 or 5/5 for the ignite idk why that is wrong

yeah mine was 3 out of 5

if you had +2 to sigils on relic you could squeeze in the last 2 points. I didnt get lucky enough

[vapid aspen]

Other side of it is that you consume every third hit, so you actually have 3 hits worth of ignite stacks applied by the time you consume

and also that 6% is per sigil

[austere tree]

thanks for the reply man, i still dont get why you'd want more points in ignite chance over just more physical damage from empowering sigils though. I know my maths off, but it seems like the damage increase is better than a way smaller (6 percent) chance of getting some more (15% from execution) damage.

[north mist]

He is saying that on average you'll get more damage increase from putting those points into the flat 6% dmg node rather than the ignite

[marsh maple]

Oh you mean the cull?

I hate cull, its buggy

[north mist]

Since on average you'd get slightly less than 3% dmg from the ignite node but always 6% from the "Empowered Sigils"

[marsh maple]

it has IN THE PAST deleted uniques from bosses. So I am always sketchy

[austere tree]

uh, i mean isnt empowering sigils better than burning sign

[marsh maple]

ohhhhh

uhhhh I mean

it really depends

at 1500% physical damage

nothing really matters

😄

[austere tree]

lol fair enough

[north mist]

Well ye the dif between 1563 and 1582 isnt that big xd

[austere tree]

but just on a theoretical basis, cause i dont understand ARPG math too well tbh

[vapid aspen]

I don't think execution stacks, but if it does then the ignite does win

and there is also a bit of a question of breakpoints. If that last 6% is getting you to a multiple of 100% it is potentially worth it

[north mist]

I mean 6% extra ignite chance means you'll have on average 0.17 extra ignite stacks every execution, which is 2.55% increased dmg

[vapid aspen]

Yep, but the distribution of outcomes at 399% vs 401% is more favourable in the bad cases.

it all averages out eventually but that doesn't matter if some bad luck means boss survives first combo or something

[north mist]

If anything youd probably want some utility rather than that tiny bit of extra damage

Like a better faith proc or haste after proccing it etc

[marsh maple]

Ill be honest this is an insane over analyzation over something that will never affect your actual gameplay 😄

[vapid aspen]

isn't that what arpgs are all about?

[marsh maple]

Yes but the difference between 1500% phys damage and 1600% is almost undetectable, so its much better to focus one things you don't have boatloads of like crit multi and flat damage (which is also what ARPGs are about btw, shoring your weaknesses)

im much more practical minded, and I just play theg ame until it feels good and bonks Jurla good.

[vapid aspen]

random thing btw, did you ever test out the lich's scorn self buffing?

[marsh maple]

Not yet

ill be honest thats probs gonna wait till next patch

this few months are looking to be insanely busy if EHG decides to do Multi by the end of the year

(I've also been addicted to torchlight infinite which doesn't help with productivity either)

[vapid aspen]

I'm gonna test it rn then

[marsh maple]

please do 😄 People forget im only one person. I shouldnt nor will I test every single thing 😄

[vapid aspen]

It works

[marsh maple]

oh I know it works...but how well does it perform

[vapid aspen]

oh

[marsh maple]

oh I thought you were talking about infernal shade

[austere tree]

yeah, that's a good philosophy. I just ask more for the sake of better understanding the maths in arpgs rather than as build critique, a lot of the time i dont udnerstand some or other mechanic / way formulas work so end up making suboptimal decisions as a result. Im loving the build though, its a great idea. I ended up doing a little twist on it because it just dropped me the things i needed for it - those gloves that convert bleed to ignite chance and that axe with a load of bleed. Been pretty fun

[marsh maple]

the gloves

[marsh maple]

no your all good. Its just sometimes you eventually get to the point where its just and not even worth a thought and just click button do damage

[austere tree]

ha yeah i get ya

i dont suppose you'd know if you make the scorpion into an ice one she makes little frost scorpions? no one seems to know and i dont wanna commit to doing a little janky build based on it if its not gonna work lol

[vapid aspen]

lemme see if I can respec to something that can test it

[austere tree]

aw no worries if thats gonna screw you for a while

i could as well, i just dont wanna re-level my skills lol

[vapid aspen]

Respecs are free which is why I love this game

you get back to lv20 in like 2 echoes tops

[austere tree]

mm but it takes ages to get em good again... ah fair, im not at high level yet

well thanks for taking a look my dude

[vapid aspen]

well they look the same so build ded on the visual side

[austere tree]

hm that doesnt bode well

[vapid aspen]

they probs take after the father XD

[austere tree]

damn, was really looking forward to that build

was gonna use the boots that make vines and the scorpion with loadsa babies and frenzy totem to give poison chance and convert it all to frost for some reason

[vapid aspen]

bleagh we need real dummies in eot too

[austere tree]

careful what u wish for. im currently in eot

[vapid aspen]

They still apply poison

[austere tree]

goddamn

thanks a lot for testing that ❤️

i guess the poison variant would probably be better anyhow

[plain juniper]

newb here, first day playing today, i came across a dungeon - lightless arbor - but it says i need keys to enter. where do these keys drop?

[minor kindle]

ignore it, keep playing the other content and will get them sooner or later

[brittle atlas]

They are global drops, but get progressively more common the further into the game you get

[outer jay]

im totally going to forget to look at the enemy mods lmao than question why I died during a boss

[true rivet]

they drop all the time when you get to Monos

[drowsy moss]

is there anything i can do to get characters back that i did not delete but have disappeared( i do have cloud sync on)

[vapid aspen]

I remember someone mentioning a way to grab the files directly from cloud sync

if your characters are in those ones then you are good. if not then you're probs screwed.

[drowsy moss]

i mean i got cloud sync on

[knotty mesa]

!multiplayer

[ripe brook]

Multiplayer is still being worked on. Here's an update: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/official-last-epoch-multiplayer-faq/42036.

[viral sierra]

Hey guys, i bought game today and having a blast, small question, my character is literally missing any shadows, is this working as intented, is there maybe a setting i am missing?

[sharp quartz]

There is a shadow setting in the game settings that you can try. Note that obviously with all special graphical features, it will come at a performance price, the magnitute of which will be relative to your hardware capabilities. (remember LE is generally unoptimised at the moment).

[viral sierra]

yeah, tried that no matter what settings i ticked on that map there were no shadow, weird but it seems its that map specific or something, another map actually has shadow, thx tho!

about optimization, my rig seems to be able to brute force game pretty good 10900k+6900xt, solid 100fps at least on first maps i played (my display refresh rate)

[sharp quartz]

Please can you post a bug report on the forum with the maps (name in Top right corner) that dont have shadows. Its likely that you may have stumbled on a specific bug that needs investigation. Please be sure to include you player.log and system info like what gpu drivers you are using ( specific version) . A dxdiag report would have everything the devs may need re your system info.

[sharp quartz]

Be careful there. The game isnt optimised so the wheels can get wobbly if you dont restrict it in some way. Later maps with special effects and higher mob density can increase the load. Generally its a good idea to make sure your gpu has headroom to spike up to max but not stay flatlined for too long.

[quasi pier]

Hey everyone, I wanted to ask how global increases work with damage over time. For example when hungering souls grant global increased damage over time, does it only apply to damage over time applied after or even to ticks occuring after from already applied damage over time effects?

A niche case could also be wandering spirits, which might have been casted already (and snapshotted without buff) but apply their dot later

i know that for bleed etc, the dmg is evened out over its duration, which would make it unlikely for a global increase to affect an ongoing dot, however for other dots (like wandering spirits) its not clear to me whehter they also work of a base damage that is evened out or an actual "per tick dmg"

[sterile widget]

The UI was showing crit multiple as 200%, but didn't change when I added a point in my passive tree... 🙂

[viral sierra]

thx, noticed some maps drop to 60 fps or something without load on gpu so there are certainly stuff devs need to work in certain bioms/layout

[native sail]

The stat screen needs work, it does not show a LOT properly.

[brittle atlas]

DoTs and duration skills like Wandering Spirits snapshot when applied or used.

[quasi pier]

well wandering spirits is applied when the spirit touches an enemy, but cast prior, does it snapshot on cast or when it actually touches the enemy?

And thank you for the reply ^^

[brittle atlas]

It snapshots on cast, not when the individual spirit is created or when it touches an enemy

[quasi pier]

There is just one thing, that makes me thing it might be on reveal and that is the fact that chronicle of the damned gives u spirits on kill, which obviously need to snapshot as they are revealed, but ofc that does not mean it applies the same way to the skill

[brittle atlas]

It’s pretty easy to test on the skill with Death Seal

If you want to look into it yourself, my experience with it was definitely with it snapshotting the full cast at once

[quasi pier]

Though at the end skills are probably implemented individually, I mean a snapshot happens for sure, but yeah maybe i can test it, its just not as easy to see with my current overlapping dots x)

[lime cargo]

I'm getting obliterated by wengari mat/patriarch fight, despite having capped cold/phys resistence.. is it meant to be a difficult fight? So far the campaign and been very easy.

[dry narwhal]

they just hit really hard

annoying but pretty kiteable

mainly watch for the matriarch's jump slam and patriarch's avalanche

[lime cargo]

kitable... I'm a melee build though lol

am I going to have to respec?

I get like half a second up-time on the boss before the shaman starts dropping aoe totems on me.

[dry narwhal]

i also got through it on a melee build

[lime cargo]

guess its a skill issue on my part then

[dry narwhal]

they also don't regen hp, so like you can just brute force it

not HC advice of course

maybe you need more HP

what's your build?

[lime cargo]

possibly.. I think I'm sitting in the high 500s. The build is using is this one:
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/EALZLEBk

I think its boardman21's FG leveling build from April 2021

so I'm also wondering if some major changes have happened that has made the build not usable.. but everything up until this fight as been a breeze

I'm lvl 42

[dry narwhal]

what's your main damage here? rive?

[lime cargo]

yeah, Rive and forge strike sometimes does a good crit, but fairly infrequently

[dry narwhal]

forge strike got changed since that

i believe

[lime cargo]

it deals nicely with large packs of small creatures, but it definitely feels inadequate for ST for anything that is an elite enemy (blue text on the health bar)

[dry narwhal]

also are you using manifest armor?

[lime cargo]

yes - he gets melted in 1-2 seconds on this boss

[dry narwhal]

cause there's like a couple different builds here lol

[lime cargo]

and that's even with having the nodes that increase his stats from my armor pieces

[dry narwhal]

i personally have been enjoying a Forge guard build with MA and forged weapons

using warpath to proc the weapons

[lime cargo]

yeah, like I said, the build has been amazing up until this fight

[dry narwhal]

it's the campaign

most anything will work

[lime cargo]

that's what I've read, which is why I'm a bit confused as to where the sudden onset of difficulty has come from

[dry narwhal]

those two are just really hard

the other boss fight for that chapter isn't fun either

[lime cargo]

fair enough

I might make some build tweaks then because forge strike doesn't seem to be doing enough damage to play a pseudo ranged fight

[dry narwhal]

i really don't know what forge strike is doing here

ah yes

4 out of 3 points

if it's going for forged minion then i think warpath is just better now

[lime cargo]

ahh.. I was wondering what was up with that node.. So its trying to use forge strike for minion procs?

I can see how warpath would be better for that then, as it would easily get more procs

[dry narwhal]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/forge-army-forge-guard

that's what i was using, but i already had the sunforged set

although i think you really don't need the chest

but you could also just go to monos at this point

[lime cargo]

Even before I've finished the campaign?

[dry narwhal]

ya

you remember when you got your mastery

you can go straight to monos from there

xD

i wouldn't recommend it without proper knowhow

but you can

[lime cargo]

Ahhh yeah okay

@dry narwhal thanks for the chat, back to work for a few hours.

[dry narwhal]

i wish you luck when you can play again

[lime cargo]

Alright, got it done. Didn't alter my build, but just stayed at range like you said and chipped them down with MA and Forge strike. Same with the next boss.

[dry narwhal]

[crystal raft]

Hi I'm trying to understand Lootfilter rules, what does '8 subtpyes of gloves with 2 of 11 affixes and tier sum8' mean?

[austere hound]

Click on the rule and you will find 3 conditions, by type to filter for gloves and then certain subtypes of gloves

2nd condition would be which affixes should appear with 11 chosen and 2 of them must be on the same item

The tier of the mods must also be 8 in sum, they can have 1-7 each iirc

[sonic fulcrum]

Hello! Where can I get build advice?

[vapid aspen]

you can ask here or in the class specific channels

[sonic fulcrum]

I started building the build: Spellblade Shatter Strike
I am now level 60.
And I have to use skill "Mana Srtike" to play comfortably.
However, this skill is not in the build guide, they use another - "Firebrand" to increase damage.
Question: how to solve the mana issue? she is critically missing
(passive skill "river blade" pumped 5/5, but it does not help 😕

[vapid aspen]

How close are you to sustaining it?

And what variant of shatter strike? are you doing the one with repeat casts?

[daring trout]

Hi I'm new to LE. What content creators/websites are good to follow or use for this game?

Also what builds are good to learn the game on with low gear reqs? Are there any summoner builds that are good?

[vapid aspen]

epoch builds on youtube is fantastic

The build planner website also catalogs builds and has some build guides on it https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/

In terms of learning the game, most builds work

As long as you dont pick a concept that makes next to no sense (in mike's words, don't try to play summoner void knight)

There are 2 and a half summoner classes. Necro, beastmaster, and forge guard is half of one.

I'd probs suggest forge guard just because manifest armour is a really cool skill with a lot of options

[marsh maple]

No, @cold plaza is more fantastic than me 😛

[vapid aspen]

inb4 nou from perry

[desert tree]

Inb4?

[vapid aspen]

Say it out loud

[desert tree]

I get the before part but "in" is supposed to be I know?

[lunar holly]

in before

[vapid aspen]

pls stop making me feel old :(

[lunar holly]

it means "I say this before X happens"

:3

[outer jay]

I dont understand why is this increasing my dps

[lunar holly]

it gives doom which deals damage

https://www.lastepochtools.com/ailments/doom

and tooltip dps is weird

[knotty tinsel]

When having Alignment skilled as a paladin, is it intended to just not work while you have holy aura in use?

whenever the latter is on my hotbar, the alignment buff will exist for a split second only before assumedly being eaten by holy aura in some way

(the passive effect, not activating the aura)

[desert tree]

What is alignment?

[outer jay]

you mean ailment?

[balmy current]

It's a buff that affects the next spell every 3 seconds

[torpid cedar]

There's a post on the forum about it consuming a year and a half ago

[knotty tinsel]

I guess holy aura just counts as being a spell that's cast constantly?

[torpid cedar]

Ya

[knotty tinsel]

bit odd considering holy aura is the central skill of paladin and alignment is paladin only

oh well, not like there's a lack of options for heal eff on the tree

[balmy current]

It shouldn't, no

[torpid cedar]

It makes sense I guess, but not how I'd have it behave personally

[balmy current]

Holy Aura should only count as being cast when you cast it (gaining the "active" buffs)

[torpid cedar]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/paladin-alignment-passive-triggering-on-regen/39301/4

[knotty tinsel]

that seems fix-worthy at least imo

[desert tree]

Sorry I am not a native English speaker I have never heard in before

[vapid aspen]

No worries lol

[leaden grail]

If I get increased Abyssal Decay duration, does that also increase the total amount of damage or does it spread out the same damage over a longer period of time?

[buoyant sinew]

it increases the total amount of damage, which basically makes it a multiplicative damage stat if you're proccing the damage immediately

[leaden grail]

Nice. Thank you very much.

[daring trout]

what's a solid build that I can use to learn the game? I've been eyeing cold dot werebear, warpath void knight, and some necro build. I come from poe so I'm looking for a build that's somewhat similar to a poe skill

[buoyant sinew]

I would advise cold dot werebear even if you hadn't shortlisted it. it's a very chill beginner build and not gear reliant at all. very tanky, very high clear speed. just has mediocre single target and the early levelling is a bit slow.

warpath is tempting because it's so similar to poe cyclone and has a good guide, I know. but the endgame damage just kinda sucks until you can get an apathy's maw, and that takes a while

[daring trout]

does the tankiness come from regen or the ability to take big hits?

also is this a good guide for it? https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/strength-stacking-cold-dot-werebear

[buoyant sinew]

kinda both, you have high hp and a ton of DR, but also very good healing

and yeah that's the standard guide for the build, I've used it personally alongside many other people here I'm sure. it's good

anything from dr3ad/epoch builds is good

[daring trout]

oh those are the videos i've seen

[buoyant sinew]

do note on the suggested gear at the top though, bastion of honour is a fairly rare item and ravenous void is incredibly rare

you don't need either but don't expect to get them particularly quickly

[daring trout]

how long does it take to finish the story and what level do I end up as?

[daring trout]

oof. how bad is incredibly rare?

[buoyant sinew]

if you do the whole story it's 5-10 hours depending on build and how much you dawdle? you end up at about level 55

experienced players usually skip some amount of the story and go into endgame early then come back to clean up the story later. wouldn't recommend for your first time, but it's something to keep in mind for later

[buoyant sinew]

literally 10x rarer than any other unique in the game. in the endgame there are rewards you can target farm to give you a unique for a specific slot. usually the rarest items have a 1-2% drop rate from those. ravenous is 0.15% from gloves rewards

but it's just extra tankiness, it's not a required item for any build

[daring trout]

so is that like a couple hours of playing the same content or a once a month level of drop rate? I have no idea what the endgame looks like

[buoyant sinew]

main endgame content is kinda like delve in poe except there's no resource you need to spend and the areas are more varied

a map of connected areas to navigate, each has a specific reward it gives that's shown on the map, infinite difficulty/reward scaling

farming gloves rewards for ravenous would take dozens of hours on average. I was farming for another unique glove a couple of weeks ago and counted how many unique glove rewards I was getting per hour on average, it was like 10-15

I don't really recommend worrying about that right off the bat

[daring trout]

I guess it'd be something like a chase item for endgame then?

[buoyant sinew]

definitely

it's the single biggest chase item, because it's so rare and good in so many builds

[dry narwhal]

it's just a luxury item

you absolutely don't need it

espescailly on that bear build, it's already incredibly tanky

[lime cargo]

Will there be an account wipe prior to full release?

[dry narwhal]

all of your current characters and stash will be "offline"

they will all still exist and be playable but not playable online

[errant dawn]

MP/online will be a fresh start

i need someone more realistic than me to tell me frostbite sorc is not a great idea compared to ignite.. just seems like a lot less total chance at around similar damage but in exchange for safety/freezes?

[dry narwhal]

i have not played ignite in LE except abusing it for rive

[lime cargo]

Oh MP brings a fresh start, that's cool!

That will be heaps of fun. Think I'll try and convince my friends to all roll necros so we can fill the screen with minions and lag out 😂

[worldly pawn]

is there anyway to remove enemy modifiers on the monoliths?

[warm yew]

Use the Beacon nodes or Quest Echoes - they will count down the stacks, but don't add new modifiers.

[worldly pawn]

thanks

[upper plinth]

This is my first playthrough and I'm having an issue with the Lagon's Trial. I beat him and I think he wants me to talk to him but I cannot do so. Tentacles are blocking the stairs down so I cannot go that way. I've clicked all around his head but nothing seems to work? I beat him 4 times now and it's always the same. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

[sharp quartz]

That looks pretty odd. There are obviously three stages to that fight... you beat on him to fill up the moon on the ground in front of him, then you go back down the stairs to defeat his tentacles, filling the moon on the floor at the bottom, then you teleport back up and bash away at him till he says Enough and then gives you the reward for surviving his battle.

If you use movement skills to go past his tentacles at the wrong time (up or down the stairs) then things can go wonky. Minion based builds can also have some issues with the minion targetting or summoning not working properly but this usually doesnt bork the fight. If you are using Fear ailments/debuff then that can sometimes make him get stuck and not attack you but it doesnt prevent the fight from completing normally.

I also would recommend you verify the game files to make sure your installation is ok.

[upper plinth]

Thank you. I just crawled my sorry retired butt out of bed and will give this another go this morning.

[vapid aspen]

Also the secret 4th stage where you accidentally kill him in phase one right as phase 2 was supossed to start, then the loot drops at the top but every time you walk close to it you get teleported back to the bottom area.

That phase is the hardest one

[marsh dock]

Is there an alternate website to lastepochtools that people use to check drops for items?
For example of what im having issues with, Apathy's Maw apparently needs 50+ corruption to drop from Shade of Orobyss.
Neither page has this mentioned

[vapid aspen]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/uniques

[marsh dock]

Same issue. 😦

[vapid aspen]

???

[marsh dock]

Ah, not when hovering over

ty

[desert quest]

https://tenor.com/view/doctorwho-david-tennant-ten-allonsy-gif-5114776

[marsh dock]

I checked that as soon as i pressed enter xD Sorry

[vapid aspen]

haha np

[upper plinth]

Is there a way to quickly drop items from your inventory or stash tabs on the ground? I'm trying to clean up everything in the storage and there is a ton of stuff in there right now. If there was a way to keep the Stash Tabs but wipe all contents that would be awesome.

[torpid cedar]

When I did that I just grabbed everything and vendored it cuz it was easier to hold shift and spam click than to drop everything

[daring trout]

is it worth shattering items during story for shards?

[sharp quartz]

If they are rare affixes or class ony affixes then yes. Its a bit expensive to shatter everything in the beginning - when you are in end game gold isnt so much of an issue anymore so you can shatter much more often.

[daring trout]

how do I know what a rare or class affix looks like?

[torpid cedar]

I only shatter mods I need and don't worry about the other ones

But removal if it's a high tier and need it asap

[sharp quartz]

Class affixes are usually on class only items and are linked to a specific skill in some way. Rare ones are harder to see without experience. but you can look here https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/prefixes and sort by rarity to get an idea of the ones that are rarer.. (note thats just prefixes, there are suffixes too)

the key is that in the beginning just look out for what you need. I promise there will be LOTs of opportunities to get affixes as you go and you dont need to micromanage finding them - at least not until you have reached min/maxing stage.

[daring trout]

oh ok thanks.

how often do ppl craft while leveling through story? I've only updated my weapon maybe twice but I think I might need to add resists or something to my armor cuz I got randomly 1 shot

[sharp quartz]

Crafting becomes important once you reach mid levels and critical for end-game

[desert quest]

I wouldn't worry about shattering during story. Only shattering for affixes once you need them works just fine thanks to item filter. Trying to shatter rare ones regularly will consume unnecessary amounts of the rune and you won't use them for quite some time likely.

[errant dawn]

am i mistaken? i thought damage effectiveness of skills affected how many stacks of ailments were applied too, or was that a warpath exclusive thing?

[desert tree]

Because of his high AS warpath has reduced ailment chance on hit 60% iirc

[errant dawn]

so that is a warpath exclusive thing, other higher effectiveness skills dont apply multiple stacks?

[desert tree]

It is exclusive to warpath

[desert quest]

The two are completely separate stats/mechanics

It just happens to be both 60% on Warpath

[balmy current]

And Flurry

[brittle atlas]

and umbral blades

[minor kindle]

and spirit thorn

[lunar holly]

https://tenor.com/view/axe-lotr-gif-5532799

[vapid aspen]

and my axe

[lunar holly]

rofl

[vapid aspen]

I win

apparently I lose

[lunar holly]

"works on my end"

[vapid aspen]

I'll blame relativity and say I still won

[desert tree]

Got iceberg first

@vapid aspen is that you on the abomination build?

[vapid aspen]

ye

[desert tree]

👏👏👏

Very enjoyable

[vapid aspen]

:)

[uneven oxide]

Hi I'm thinking about buying this game, I see that it has a very good opinni as a beta, itu my question what are the pros and cons of a given production at this stage of production? it is playable and to what stage? how is + and - this game

[desert quest]

• Very enjoyable. Can pour hundreds of hours if your type of game.

• Some visual and gameplay stuff still feel like a low budget, beta game.

[knotty tinsel]

It feels like a beta game because it is a beta game

[desert quest]

How long this "it is a beta" will be used to defend some stuff I wonder. Some things are same they were 3.5 years ago.

But still it is very enjoyable as I said

[knotty tinsel]

to me it's not really a defense just a fact. I haven't been around long enough to feel like things are progressing slowly if that is the issue

game gud me like

[brittle atlas]

the biggest jumps in quality have all come in last year or so tbh, dunno what really changed, but ye. just a string of banger updates

[desert quest]

I think the visuals/gameplay feeling and MP are top for me but they probably know MP isn't here yet. Also couple missing masteries but there is enough content for people until those are added.

[knotty tinsel]

if I had to pick out one thing that sticks with me as very beta-ey it's how you suddenly get voice acted lines halfway into the game.

things can be subject to change etc etc but it's a little jarring

but this isn't the discussion channel oopsie, havagooday

[upper plinth]

Will we be able to keep our existing characters once Multi-player is released or will we be required to wipe our characters and start fresh?

[brittle atlas]

existing characters will remain playable offline, but cannot be taken online.

[upper plinth]

ok thank you. So to bring characters on line multi-player you would need to build a new character. Which is fine. Will there be an auction house or player trading?

[buoyant sinew]

there will be player trading at some point, but we don't know much about it yet. the devs are still deciding on the details. it sounds like it will end up being much more limited than an auction house though.

[upper plinth]

As long as it will be possible to do some player trading. I have rotten RNG luck and can never find what I need for a build.

[buoyant sinew]

it doesn't sound like trading will be in for the initial multiplayer release though. not even drop trading, IIRC loot is going to be completely instanced.

[upbeat creek]

will there be seasons|leagues?

[minor vigil]

yea

called cycles

tho it seems like league mechanics will be added to standard immediately

bc theyd ont want standard players to miss out on content

[upbeat creek]

yeah, tx

[outer jay]

how many T6 prefixes can drop on an item

cause I got one with 2 on it

[brittle atlas]

technically 4x T7, but realistically 2x T6 or T6 + T7 is all you'll really see.

very rarely you might see triple exalted items

as in like, see other people that have found one

[outer jay]

jesus

[vapid aspen]

I've seen I think 2 total 2x t7

One died in temporal sanctum with a 3lp base

The other is patiently awaiting a unique helmet for lightning shurikens.

[frank wasp]

does this crit bonus apply to whatever skills the squirrels get?

also what about the other how nodes? like this one

[warm yew]

I believe squirrels inherit abilities from howl with sciurine rage

Haven't ever levelled a beast master enough to get there - keep getting bored.

[frank wasp]

thats good, ty

[outer jay]

what build uses necrotic damage cause i casually got 3 T6 items that have necrotic damage on them

I swear the game wants me to play necro it keeps giving me necro items

[vapid aspen]

Lich

Also lich

[frank wasp]

could probably do a lot of builds

[vapid aspen]

sometimes lich uses them too

And I guess necrotic maelstrom on primalist with the boots

[frank wasp]

probably look at acolytes skills
and see if you like any

that skill has a good chance of being necrotic

[vapid aspen]

What type of necrotic mods?

increased damage or flat?

[outer jay]

percent

which one is better?

[vapid aspen]

For lich its complicated kinda

Is neither a valid answer to that question?

[outer jay]

lmao

[vapid aspen]

Flat necrotic to spells doesnt exist, but if it did it would be incredible

[outer jay]

ill just go with my vk bomber until the game annoys me more into playing necro

[frank wasp]

im playing hungering souls, imo its fun

[vapid aspen]

flat necrotic to melee exists but isnt useful because both necrotic melee skills get flat damage instead of % from attributes

[outer jay]

i havent even gotten to empowered with my vk bomber yet lmao

so ill play more on him than maybe swap later

[frank wasp]

oh

yea lmao

finish ur first character

then decide what to reroll

[outer jay]

i also have way too many fire items

[vapid aspen]

imagine not playing lich as first character

[outer jay]

yea but you see there was spin to win on this character

so

[buoyant sinew]

lich is currently the only mastery I've never played 😆

just cause reaper form seems annoying

(and I'm too in love with sentinel dot builds)

[vapid aspen]

reaper form is free stats because it never runs out

Technically it runs out eventually but you can refill entire health bar every frame with leech

[frank wasp]

imagine not playing sentinel as first character :^)

[vapid aspen]

I still cannot seem to enjoy sentinel no matter how hard I try

Sigils needs to die in a fire

reversal needs to be vk exclusive

[frank wasp]

nah

[buoyant sinew]

maybe try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61I8DuKDeYQ

while it does use both skills, it can't ever cast sigils and doesn't use reversal for mana

[frank wasp]

pls no

love sigils and reversal

[vapid aspen]

I love the stats they give and hate the skills themselves. reversal is fun on vk because it fits. Why do I need to use it on every single sentinel build just to have reasonable dps?

[frank wasp]

you dont

[buoyant sinew]

I think "just to have reasonable dps" is a bit of a strong statement

[frank wasp]

i dont use reversal on my smite character and cruise through 400 corruption

[outer jay]

I love not pressing 50 buttons at once like poe lmao so bomber is literally my favourite so far

[buoyant sinew]

plenty of builds have good dps without it, it just feels forced because it's a "free" damage amp on top

[vapid aspen]

because smite doesnt cost mana XD

[buoyant sinew]

which isn't great, I agree

[frank wasp]

but you said damage

i wouldnt use it for mana on my smite build if i did use it

[vapid aspen]

Its like playing minion necro without dread shade... Yes you can do that but why on earth do you hate yourself so much?

[frank wasp]

u see

the thing is

i cant comment
because i havent played necro minions

[buoyant sinew]

dread shade feels much more extreme tbh. it's much more damage than reversal and much more annoying to manage

[frank wasp]

so i cant speak on what its like

to not use dreadshade on minions

but
at the very least
anything with smites level of damage

does not need VR for damage

[vapid aspen]

dread shade is just right click every 40 seconds and you're good

[buoyant sinew]

I guess on abom

on temp minion builds it's such a pest

[frank wasp]

like
to be clear id be fine if they nerfed the damage that sigils and VR give
and gave some of that damage to the skills themselves
id be very ok with that

but i like the skills themselves

[vapid aspen]

ok so imagine this though. Take your current damage dealt and you can do X content. Now more than double your damage, what content can you do?

[frank wasp]

i wasnt limited by damage

400 was real easy damage wise

but defense wise started to get spooky

which is why i didnt take VR btw

i have javalin banner

for a dash, healing, and more smites for more healing

[vapid aspen]

the more damage you have the more you can invest into defense

[frank wasp]

outside of having better rolls

i dont think i could really invest more into damage

had a mostly defensive passive tree
had life in every slot i could fit it

vit where i could get it

[vapid aspen]

You can start swapping inc damage rolls for str rolls for more armour

[frank wasp]

i mean, this is true
but i already had decent armor, i think i could only get like, 30% more DR

so like, maybe i could go up to 500 corruption?
but like, from what ive seen from going from 100-400
the rewards dont scale enough to even matter

[vapid aspen]

anyway I did play smite a few times and the sfx made me sad :(

vfx looks great and the sfx is someone opening a bottle of soda

[frank wasp]

i love soda bottle sound tbh

[vapid aspen]

I'd prefer something more punchy but I suppose this is subjective

[frank wasp]

with how fast smites go off i feel like my ears would be overwhelmed by too punchy of a sound

[vapid aspen]

But its not even a new soda bottle, its the old 2/3 empty one at the back of the fridge

[frank wasp]

i would def prefer a fresher soda bottle sound :^)

[vapid aspen]

XD

[frank wasp]

but yea, i do agree the power of sigils and VR need to be redistributed to the skills themselves

so they feel less mandatory

but i enjoy the skills

honestly my only complaint with actually using the skills themselves
is that sigils arent instant by default

[outer jay]

what builds use fire damage?

or spell fire

[desert tree]

judgement aura

i am playing a flame burst paladin rn

[knotty tinsel]

I'm transitioning to judgment aura right now and it's not a great time so far

mana-damage node and sigils make monitoring mana levels annoying if not difficult

I suppose I can opt to not go for the mana route but it's so much damage on paper

[buoyant sinew]

it's not an aura version, but if you want an alternative I'm currently playing perry's new judgement build and can vouch for it being excellent. will hit 100 on it soon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61I8DuKDeYQ

(EDIT: as mentioned below, this version will probably be fixed/nerfed in 0.9)

[minor kindle]

How is it annoying?
Basically you only need to use judgment→sigils→reversal once every 6 seconds

don't think it requires to monitor anything at all, except for the 6 seconds

[vapid aspen]

some people (like me) have an aversion to upkeep timers lower than 18 or so seconds.

[marsh maple]

This is the bugged version so it's probably not good to recommend

[buoyant sinew]

why not? I guess adding a disclaimer that it will probably be changed in 0.9 would be good, fair enough.

[marsh maple]

I mean you can play it for sure

it doesnt really matter

just remember that thats now how the skill is supposed to function

[vapid aspen]

alternatively: play it now because fomo

[quick dove]

I've been running werebear cold dot and am enjoying it quite a bit but I want to also start farming/gearing for a smite/hammer paladin in the future so I've set my loot filter to search for chance to cast idols in preparation. Question tho - would it make more sense to try to farm those idols on a sentinel? Most idols drop for primalist so I assume its weighted today my class?

[buoyant sinew]

idol drops are weighted to your class yes. farming them on another class can be done, I've done it for flame wraiths. it just depends whether your goal is just to get them eventually and play it when you do, or you want to start playing the build asap. because yes, it will be way quicker to get them if you're playing a sentinel

[quick dove]

Thats what I thought, appreciate it bro. I'll probably just keep going with this build and find em when I do.

[timber wren]

Can anyone tell me why I'm not seeing dragon fire cast ever? Even with 100% crit chance? Is it a visual bug?

[chrome ferry]

Any tips for Majasa? I'm doing a void knight, poison and fire resistance are a bit low since my health gets shredded from those. Only keeping alive from high health leech, but even then it is quite tough.

And my forging potential for current items is pretty much zero from getting other resistances up

I can barely make it by the first phase but the 2nd phase destroys my health

[dry narwhal]

best advice for majasa is to just not do it

there's nothing stopping you from leaving and doing monos instead, and if you really want the reward for "finishing" campaign get it later

[outer jay]

does future strike proc off of any type of damage?

[chrome ferry]

I basically started doing that, wasn't getting any bonus experience from that fight by trying over and over again anyway

[burnt bolt]

are Immolator's Oblation and Pyre of Affliction the only ways to get decent ignite stacks on yourself?

I have 2 Ashes of Mortality I'm trying to make work on a spellblade

[dry narwhal]

pretty much, i will admit it does feel bad to not finish it, but chapter 9 is such a step up, even in the nerfed state now

[vapid aspen]

only other way is with the bleed to ignite gloves and the self bleed on spirit plague which gives 5 stacks per cast.

Not using that setup is gimping yourself super hard

[cerulean egret]

Does the Unique drop rate blessing increase the overall chance of rare drops from bosses along with common drops to drop, or is it just the chance for a unique to drop in general from normal mobs?

[regal gale]

Question: Does this passive only work on enemies killed IN the smoke or can I shoot outside of it and blind and crit? thx

[crystal raft]

I waited on my Bowmage untill I was like 10 lvl above maplvl. Then it was quite easy 😉

[knotty tinsel]

I guess there's my issue I dismissed reversal right out the gate because the few guides that do exist of the build don't use it

most recent one is 13 months ago

[dry narwhal]

read the tooltip

[regal gale]

Can be interpreted in 2 ways imo. Either it works on enemies while the player and enemies are inside smoke or while player is inside smoke but you hit enemies outside of smoke.

I'll level it up and try anyway 🙂

[dry narwhal]

it literally says while you are IN the smoke bomb

[crystal raft]

what is a good place to farm Reign of Winter?

[dry narwhal]

the level 90 mono boss where it only comes from

[knotty tinsel]

is the Reen's Ire buff effect doubled if you dual wield it?

[lime cargo]

how do I switch item comparison to my 2nd ring?

[fervent panther]

i switch manually left ring <-> right ring then compare 🙂

[gilded silo]

Does increased damage apply to damaging ailments from the source of that ailment?

i.e. if I have 20% increased spell damage, and a spell applys poison, does that increased spell damage also increase the damage from that poison-instance?

[warm yew]

As long as the increase is 'general' then yes - i.e. not "with hits" "with melee" "with spells"

[gilded silo]

so "increased damage", "increased dot damage" and similar would work, but "increased spell damage" does not even if it's a spell that is doing the poisoning

[warm yew]

So, in your example, no - but "Bone Curse deals 30% Increased Damage" would cause ailments applied by bone curse to do more damage.

Increased Damage over Time also works on ailments that deal damage over time (all of the damaging ones, as of now)

[acoustic thicket]

Its a boss drop in age of winter (heorot)

[acoustic thicket]

No, but it adds to the chance

[gilded silo]

So "increased spell damage" would not increase the damage from a poison inflicted by marrow shards, because the poison isn't a spell.

[warm yew]

Correct.

[gilded silo]

But intelligence would increase the poison damage because marrow shards scales with intelligence without a qualifier

[warm yew]

Correct

[gilded silo]

Cool, thanks!

[warm yew]

Best of luck, and happy hunting!

[gilded silo]

That does make the lich passive bonus kinda pointless with poison then, but i'll manage 😄

[warm yew]

Aye - but ailments deal a considerable amount of damage as-is. And they can still get more damage scaling from low-life with other skills like Death Seal.

[gilded silo]

plus low life with steps and exsanguinatus gives a strong for of permanent ward recovery to sustain the self-poison from aura of decay....and there will be a bunch of general dot/necrotic scaling because some of the nodes that scale poison also scale necrotic at the same time so it still does something for e.g. spirit plague

[vapid aspen]

Well no

you cant run ward with death seal

and lich without death seal is really bad

you need absolutely insane gear to make up for it

[warm yew]

You need insane gear to match Lich with Death Seal - compared to my VK or Bear, Lich without it is fine.

Lich with it is just nuts, however.

[vapid aspen]

lich without it is pretty underpowered tho

you can make up the defenses lost but good luck making up the damage

should really be a node in death seal that is like "no longer gives damage reduction, no longer removes ward"

at least opens up some options

[gilded silo]

Does Soul Maw's "increased health leech" interact with Hollow Liches leech to damage conversion?

Meaning, say, I have 10% of damage leeched as life with 5 points in Soul Maw, so 50% increased health leech, and also Hollow Lich.

Is it 10% * 1.5 * 10 = 150% increased damage, or does the "increased health leech" not apply before the leech-to-damage conversion?

[brittle atlas]

it works with poison

pretty sure anyways- it's skills tagged with <spell> or <melee> have <increased damage>

despite the somewhat ambiguous wording

[brittle atlas]

it does not apply to the conversion

[raw mesa]

Is it possible to Eternity Cache Woven Flesh anymore? It looks like, based on the database, that Gladiator Armour doesn't drop anymore.

[brittle atlas]

gladiator armor as a craftable base can't drop

woven flesh still drops

most all-class unique chests are on a unique-only base

[raw mesa]

So what's the point of Forging Potential on Woven Flesh?

[brittle atlas]

you can make a legendary with any type of exalted chest

you don't need match base type

[raw mesa]

Ah, so the answer is I'm a dumbass 🙂

[brittle atlas]

only item type

[raw mesa]

Great grea -- but for Weapons do you need to match base type?

[brittle atlas]

yes

staff for staff

sword for sword

etc

dagger for dagger

[raw mesa]

I see -- tyvm

i appreciate your explanation

[knotty tinsel]

haven't played with bows at all yet, does the Bow Damage affix work on DoTs?

[brittle atlas]

"increased bow damage" does not work for dots unless that dot is also bow damage

like Hail of Arrows

[knotty tinsel]

probably not worth using on a bleed build then, gotcha

[sweet stump]

can i summon minion with an item to gain it's buff then swap to another

like summoning minions with sinathia's dying breath then switch to lethal concentration and gain it both buffs

[brittle atlas]

You won’t gain the stats of the second item

Only the items worn when you summon the minion

Unless it’s something like the buff proc on lethal concentration

That would work

But the normal stats on it won’t

[sweet stump]

ahaa

thanks mate

[sweet stump]

can someone explain that poison ailment part

[brittle atlas]

Your “increased damage” “increased damage over time” and “increased poison damage” stats will apply to your minions

But they won’t get “chance to poison on hit” or “increased effectiveness of poison”

[sonic cedar]

!multiplayer

[ripe brook]

Multiplayer's still in development. Here's the latest news: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/official-last-epoch-multiplayer-faq/42036.

[outer jay]

does abyssal echos proc future strike cause its doing damage?

[balmy current]

Ailments can only be applied by skills that hit. DoTs don't hit so can't apply other ailments, though the initial cast of Abyssal Echoes ('cause it applies the Abyssal Decay ailment) might be considered a hit and thus might apply Future Strike.

[zealous orchid]

Anyone else have performance issues??

This guy is refunding cuz he said he's playing on medium settings with a 3060 and getting 28fps

He's blaming unity and he said he's gonna block me when all I offered was to just ask the devs themselves in this discord

[desert tree]

The game is very cpu heavy from what I have understood

Oh you are talking about Maru

Really I am shock he wants to block you, he seemed like a nice lad..........

Anyway performances issues are a thing, a lot of optimisations are coming in 0.9

[zealous orchid]

All I said was the game is not done yet and performance is the last thing they want to do

Surprised u know him? He visits here?

[lime cargo]

That's what I'm doing, but was hoping there was a better way.

[woven fulcrum]

Not yet, but it's been noted and asked for numerous time so I imagine it'll arrive eventually.

[errant dawn]

if you were to combine frontloaded & focal blast on lightning blast, what happens? does the chain penalty apply all at once or does none of it apply because of focal?

[cerulean egret]

Positing the question again now if anyone has any insight to it.

Does the Unique drop rate blessing increase the overall chance of all unique drops from bosses as well, or is it just the chance for a unique to drop in general from normal mobs?

[errant dawn]

from everything from what i gathered, except gambler

cause those dont "drop"

[terse trench]

is there any kind of way to get better specific implicits or is it literally just keep killing things and hope

[knotty tinsel]

rare affixes or just use-viable pieces for your build?

either way best to keep scythin' those wheat fields we call monoliths yeah basically

[lime cargo]

Oh nice!

[cerulean egret]

Cool, thanks! I was hoping so because I've been trying to get Apathy's Maw to drop and didn't know if it'd affect bosses that guaranteed drop uniques.

[errant dawn]

yeah regarding that axe especially someone told me to get the twohand blessing as well, but i wasnt gonna put that much effort at the time 😄

[knotty tinsel]

it also has a corruption minimum to drop apparently. Idk if it's the only unique to behave that way though

[errant dawn]

right i forgot if it was 150 or 200

[native sail]

It's only 50 actually

I believe 150 is the belt and 200 the amulet

[cerulean egret]

Yeah I just pulled the blessing so I’m crossing my fingers that I’ll actually get one lol

[knotty tinsel]

feels kinda arbitrary considering it's hard to not have 50+ corruption

[native sail]

I wish you luck. May you be blessed with at least a 2LP Apathy

[knotty tinsel]

I guess it's so you don't immediately find one at level 40 😛

[cerulean egret]

I thought the belt was 125 minimum, did they up it?

[native sail]

Not sure, I'm recalling it off the top of my head on that one

[cerulean egret]

Fair do’s

[native sail]

I know for a fact the axe is only 50 though. It just hates me and never drops LP.

Imagine getting the items you want, could not be me

[knotty tinsel]

I get the items and then never get the LegAffixes I want to actually connect

gonna play a Solo char for the first time tomorrow because I can't stand looking at my tab of failed legendaries anymore

[native sail]

looks at bricked legendaries

sobs

[buoyant sinew]

and to round it out, I have five 1LP maws but somehow no exalted axes I want to merge with them >_>

[knotty tinsel]

better hit them monolith mines brother

rock and stone

[buoyant sinew]

t6 flat void where

[native sail]

I have 3 axes with max roll T7 flat crit. No LP Maw.

[buoyant sinew]

we need to swap again

[native sail]

For real dude lmao

[terse trench]

like just minion damage

[torn tartan]

hi guys, where is the new update? I've been waiting for a long time but still its not come out

[woven fulcrum]

#news

[wanton hatch]

Is "Spark Nova" proccing the "Lightning Nova", using the Elemental Nova skill tree??
I kind of think no, but not sure if that's a name error because they both have the same skill icon.

Thx.

[brittle atlas]

no, spark nova =/= elemental nova

[wanton hatch]

Thanks!

[minor kindle]

icon is meaningless and should not be used as a basis for judgment

[knotty tinsel]

unless specified any skills granted within a skill or passive tree are their own thing

it can get a little confusing but the skill database is very helpful

[viral sierra]

guys, how do you target farm things? i was thinking of getting https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzBMYTiA for my bleed build but not sure how to approach it

[desert quest]

As it says there, you can farm Reign of Dragons timeline

It helps limit the drop pool quite a bit

[knotty tinsel]

if you're having trouble finding many Unique or Set xyz echoes, prioritize rushing to the edge of the web where they'll be very common, then work your way around (or repeat if you're working on corruption as well)

[lime cargo]

is it worth to keep pushing a monolith to find all the timeline nodes for the quest?

As an example, the first mono - even though I'm quite over leveled for it now.

[native sail]

You don't find the nodes, you click them on the side.

[lunar holly]

I think 🍋 means the remaining branches

You can do them on empowered

[native sail]

Oh. Right. My bad, I've been awake under an hour and it is 5AM

[lime cargo]

I think I worded it pretty poorly too haha 😅

How do I start empowered?

[native sail]

Complete the three level 90 monoliths and then go click the big crystal in the platform they all connect to in the middle

[lime cargo]

awesome, thank you!

[native sail]

No problem

[knotty tinsel]

since smelters wrath is (technically) a melee skill does this convert melee attack speed only?

[viral sierra]

so just ran any map from there and pray it drops since its "common drop"?

[desert quest]

Go for the unique or set item nodes

[dry narwhal]

you have to run the node that says Unique or Set Axe Mace or Polearm

but with how common it is for me, you'll probably see it pretty fast

[desert quest]

Helloo, does anybody know save location?

[sharp quartz]

On Windows generally : C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\LocalLow\Eleventh Hour Games

With Steam Cloud saves [STEAM_GAME_FOLDER]/steamapps/userdata/[STEAM_USER_ID]/899770/ac/
WinAppDataLocalLow/Eleventh Hour Games/Last Epoch/Saves/

[desert quest]

Thank you

[lime cargo]

what is the maximum level of skills? I keep seeing some with lvl 25 others only 20 on lastepochtools

[amber notch]

You can get + level on gear

20 is the max you can get without gear

[lime cargo]

hmm okay. So it has to have +1 to Summon skeleton for example?

[amber notch]

Yes

[lime cargo]

what does +2 to Fire Minion skills imply then? Can that increase the max skill level, or does that apply to the minions internal skills which we cannot see?

[balmy current]

It gives +2 levels to minion skills where the minion has the fire tag (eg, Flame Wraiths, Pyromancer Skellie Mages)

[lime cargo]

ahhh okay.. that makes a lot more sense now on how this video guide is achieving so many extra levels on his skele mages and wraiths

[woven fulcrum]

aside from all the other recommendations
you can also try a rune of ascendance
https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/ascsim

[viral sierra]

thx for help, guys ♥

[austere hound]

How does leech work with dots? When are new instances of leech created? Each tick or does it depend on how often a dot deals damage? Afaik there are differences between dots

[cold plaza]

Each instance of damage is a new source of leech. Things like ailments tick twice a second iirc, and something like internal shade is 3ish times per second

[austere hound]

But how does that work if leech gives hp over 3 seconds and an ailment ticks twice per second? Wouldn't that give multiple leech instances per damage instance

[vapid aspen]

No?

One bleed produces multiple instances of damage

each of those instances should also produce one instance of leech

that's how I assume it works but devs haven't confirmed if there is anything special with leech and dots due to their weird hidden tick rate stuff.

[austere hound]

Why does one bleed produce multiple damage instances? Now I'm confused

[vapid aspen]

Because it ticks

[austere hound]

A single instance can also tick

[vapid aspen]

one bleed also displays more than one damage number

each tick is an instance of damage

that's what is ticking

bleed is an ailment that applies an instance of damage x times per second

[austere hound]

Would make more sense to me if it's only one instance that deals damage x times per second

[vapid aspen]

I don't see how that makes sense but pretty sure we're debating terms right now

so it's kinda meaningless

call it whatever you wanna call it. The "deals damage" part is what produces an instance of leech

and that instance lasts 3 seconds

[austere hound]

Ye I think I got it, thx

[vapid aspen]

afaik the only unknown thing here is what the actual tick rates are. devs have said that ailments usually have a higher tick rate than the numbers are displayed

so there is a question on if the leech instances are made when numbers display or when the dot actually ticks

[daring trout]

I'm playing cold dot werebear and for some reason my maul doesn't proc the giant aoe wave sometimes. is there a reason why this is happening? other times I can constantly chain it every time maul comes off cd

[desert tree]

It can be because your rage is too low, and since you can't pay the cost it won't trigger entangling roots

[daring trout]

oh. that might be why then. never paid attention to my rage. does it say how much it costs somewhere?

[north mist]

Iirc the entangling roots is bugged and "costs" twice as much rage as it should. As in it wont actually consume twice as much but if you have below that bugged amount it just wont cast it

Or something similar, dont remember the exact details

[north mist]

Its the mana cost of entangling

[daring trout]

does the bug make the build unplayable? I'm lv61 and it's my 1st time playing the game. i've died a few times cuz things don't die and i can't cast

[lunar holly]

do you have Garden of Rage from Spriggan Form plus Eterra's Path or Rampant Growth node in Entangling Roots ?

that's pretty much how you sustain rage

[burnt sky]

Do monolith modifiers affect the bosses in quest echos too?

[daring trout]

yeah i have that maxed. i'm at 1/5 on invigoration in the bear tree

[daring trout]

is it this?

[burnt sky]

Those are the modifiers, I'm asking if those apply to the quest echo bosses too

[lunar holly]

they do

[burnt sky]

OK thanks

[daring trout]

should I be filling the bar before portaling out?

[balmy current]

If you want to yes, otherwise no.

[frank wasp]

is this decent?

[knotty tinsel]

warpath ignite time? lel

[desert quest]

Random question, are you the author of Filtration?

[minor kindle]

For melee ignite build, even with 4LP it is nowhere near as good as Bardiche...

[knotty tinsel]

ofc not but it looks so cool

I was sad to drop it during leveling because whacking stuff with a torch is awesome

[balmy current]

@burnt sky Unless the modifier says "rare enemies" then they won't 'cause bosses aren't rare enemies.

[burnt sky]

Yeah I am 🙂 Been a long time since it was updated now though

[wanton hatch]

Just started browsing the Mage skills. Anyone try something like Convergence Lightning Blast, with stacking chain, maybe crit, shock + shred, and possibly even Spark Charge? For single target DPS.

[north mist]

Absolutely not, its still fantastic

[frank wasp]

feelsbad

[brittle atlas]

that's basically the meta way to build LB, minus final spark

you generally get spark charges just from the sorc tree tho

[wanton hatch]

makes sense. always think I'm on to something new, but it's usually the meta

I'm too late to the party

[vapid aspen]

No, too late would be discovering it after it has been nerfed XD

[wanton hatch]

Going to look through all the mage stuff, but when I get to a higher level to really be able to test some things out.

For now, what's a fast(est?) leveling method for Mage?

[brittle atlas]

glacier

w/ gambler's fallacy

[wanton hatch]

I have to imagine there's a speed boy variant of the Mage, using Static

• Teleport.
  possibly it's even melee, with +Surge.

I've only looked at those skills so far, but I think there's some potential here for speed

[buoyant sinew]

proccing static with the discharge node in surge ignores the mana cost added by static's power surge node

which may or may not be intended but makes for a pretty neat build where you just surge around to clear

I'm not aware of a way for it to have great single target though

[vapid aspen]

surge?

Or static

[buoyant sinew]

the build as a whole

[vapid aspen]

because surge was amazing on single target before they doubled its damage

It's got more multipliers than the rest of spellblade combined

[wanton hatch]

that's kind of why i want to level up the mage before really deciding. cuz I cant use static yet. Do I cast it and then it starts scaling up stacks over time, for example.

and how quickly.

[vapid aspen]

movement charging is slow

if you want passive charge generation you need the idols too

[wanton hatch]

Makes things like surge build up more relevant

[vapid aspen]

the one in firebrand is far better

or static orb

[buoyant sinew]

that build with static can't really deal damage with surge though, it's basically a spell damage build

[vapid aspen]

you could probs set up a hybrid of sorts

[buoyant sinew]

possibly

[vapid aspen]

just figure out the bare minimum investment to clear with static

[buoyant sinew]

but you burn so much of the surge tree on the static points

[vapid aspen]

not really

[wanton hatch]

i liked these nodes

[buoyant sinew]

the version I tried was using spark charges from various sources as its single target

[wanton hatch]

just as a general clearing + movement. but agian, without being able to use the skill. i dont know how fast they build up charges. so it'll be a puzzle, which is the fun part

[buoyant sinew]

it was doable but not a ton of damage

[vapid aspen]

Yeah so that node is 50% more damage per point

[wanton hatch]

I'd possibly be doing something like this as single target.

[vapid aspen]

Like I would take the more damage per charge node even if I wasn't using static

[wanton hatch]

scale up the max static. (maybe do something else), surge + detonate the static every 4 seconds. cycle permanent haste

[vapid aspen]

I actually numlocked static with cd reset when full charges

[wanton hatch]

Depending on static build speed:

Certainly probably likely.

i think there's some potential here

[vapid aspen]

Basically I ran static as a way to be immune to all damage in packs

[wanton hatch]

gotta put some time into leveling and theorycrafing tho. so far i'm only level 9 and looked at like only these 3 skills. lol.

[vapid aspen]

you gain charges when you get hit, can get ward per charge on activate

and you just auto activate it

[wanton hatch]

Independent of the build idea I mention above. This could have some potential

[vapid aspen]

it kinda doesn't

maybe back when lightning blast was a functioning skill for map clear

but it's a single target exclusive skill now

[wanton hatch]

that makes sense. that was just a back pocket something to explore

[austere tree]

hey, was wondering if anyone knew of a good guide to gearing. I've just got to like level 90 and wanted to do a big reshuffle of my gear, and just remembered this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98H3Ncv7QAs - where he says he doesnt like the physical resist on chestpiece, i think because chestpiece can get some fixes which rings cant, so puts the phys resist on the ring. Was wondering if there was like some guide to what stuff's good where with some explanations out there really?

[buoyant sinew]

IIRC this video still holds up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gWE6xW8Xlw

[austere tree]

awesome, thanks a lot!

[vapid aspen]

Yes that video is like.... first thing to do when making planner

throw stuff in those gear slots and put the important affixes on. Everything else comes after that

and never take those affixes off unless your build literally implodes without some specific thing that overlaps

[cunning granite]

Where if possible, can I possibly get access to the muliplayer beta

[dire mist]

apply for it using the application in the multiplayer beta posts

[cunning granite]

Guess I'll just wait for it

[stone granite]

That's a thousand percent false

LB is actually going to be my first build when multiplayer is live

[native sail]

I'll probably just be a basic loser and run something DoT for an easy start

[stone granite]

Your build doesn't make you a loser, nobody cares. Play what's fun for you.

[native sail]

I like poking fun at myself :P

[vapid aspen]

I mean you dont use lb for clear in lb builds...

its a fantastic single target skill but you are gonna be there all week if you want to clear packs with it

The setup being mentioned above is the autocast build with static which iirc was used with a clear specced lightning blast to walk through monos.

there isnt much merit to autocasting it for a single target

[stone granite]

I do

[vapid aspen]

Well more power to you then

[lime cargo]

is leveling in LE considered up to lvl 100 when you unlocked empowered monos or does it imply the point where you usually beat lagon?

[warm yew]

?? Not 100% sure I'm answering that correctly, but: Empowered Monos are level 100 - but you usually unlock them much earlier (my record is ~65 solo, but usually ~75); you can run them as soon as you unlock them, but there is a gear-check when you first start.

[vapid aspen]

I'd say once you are in reign of dragons that is the endgame

85 and 90 stuff is still a pretty significant spike relative to earlier monos

the 3 90s timelines basically are there so you can get your gear in order for empowered

[lime cargo]

hmm ok.. so when a build says take xyz skill for leveling, they mean up to reign of dragons? I swapped my skills over from the "leveling" ones after killing lagon, and its been fine.

[vapid aspen]

ah

yeah that's up in the air

so like, some skills only come online with a specific number of skill points

but if that is the case then a guide should say so

maybe your build needs 20 skill points in some spell to work, maybe it only needs 6 points to work.

[lime cargo]

that's where my confusion has been.. some of these guides days "leveling" but refer to it interchangably as the campaign.. lol

[vapid aspen]

if it needs 20 then you use something else until then

leveling imo = what you do before your build has all of its core mechanics in place

[lime cargo]

I haven't found any build guide that's gone into that level of detail.. they just splash up their lvl 100 thing distribution of points and say "there ya go"

[vapid aspen]

T_T

[lime cargo]

interesting... I can see what you mean by up in the air then

[marsh maple]

oof

[warm yew]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/

[marsh maple]

I try to put as much detail as I can shove in 20 minutes 😄 Idk how I could do even more without it becoming actual handholding.

[warm yew]

These all have written descriptions and thought processes in there - usually with enough detail that you don't have to muddle through.
That being said, muddling through is the best part in this game - it's so easy to try everything for a while and figure out what works and what doesn't - and there are still those deep-dive learning moments where you realize you can learn so much more about what you didn't think was important.

[vapid aspen]

^

[warm yew]

We know you do pretty good Dr3adful

[lime cargo]

I have watched a few of your vids dread, but as I'm really new to the game, I always thought your builds were designed for late game people with a lot of resources behind them.

[marsh maple]

It depends

some are

[vapid aspen]

Even on builds I've experimented with for months I'll still sometimes just say screw it and totally respec my main skill to try something else

[marsh maple]

some arent

there, had to fix that

[vapid aspen]

omg he rebranded right before my very eyes

[lime cargo]

I'm sure a lot of it also comes down to experience too.. I've only had the game a week so still learning what everything means and how the game works really.

[marsh maple]

Seriously though, a lot of my builds are easily achievable through just a bit of grinding. Its very hard to find a build that can't be played in solo mode.

If something I do is very not newb friendly, I try to make sure people know, like the Surge Spellblade. That is def not newb friendly 😄

[lime cargo]

I think I had a bad experience with one build on LE tools.. I later realised why I was struggling on that character, the build was designed in patch 8.1 so probably wasn't viable anymore

[vapid aspen]

This all said, if you're brand new then the best thing to do is experiment

[marsh maple]

I forgot to change it here when I changed the other day. People don't like it when your making non - LE content when your waiting for a patch

[vapid aspen]

if something doesn't make sense ask someone

[marsh maple]

but yeah just have fun. Thats my #1 rule

[lime cargo]

See I've wanted to do this, but after played POE for a bit, I've been worried about making a mistake and ruining the build and having to throw the character out

[vapid aspen]

respec is free

My bladedancer has had like 93 different builds on the same character so far

[marsh maple]

Don't think of my videos as guides. Think of them as just educational. Use them, don't. Learn a thing or two. I try to shove as much info as possible so you can learn the stuff on your own but also not be stumbling around in the dark.

[lime cargo]

I know that now... actually, dread (and others) seeing as you're here... what are some good principles to keep in mind for trying to put a build together? How do I even approach trying to put something together and making it work?

[vapid aspen]

Step 1: find a cool mechanic

[marsh maple]

Sadly that comes with time and experience. I will be honest with you, I have hundreds of ideas but almost none of them work. Or if they do they require a lot of refining until they do work. Its a lot of put point here, pull point out there.

I have significantly more failed ideas than ideas that actually have worked. Its astronomical the difference. Failing happens all the time

[knotty tinsel]

I spent up to level 65 speccing into a particular druid build, then decided I wasn't having much fun with the result so I made it a cold dot werebear instead. respeccing passives + skills + grabbing basic gear + leveling skills up a bit took me all of ten minutes

the sky's the limit with respeccing

[vapid aspen]

Really though first thing is to learn about the mechanics in the game you can use.

Just as an example, take this item. Think about what classes might synergise with it.

[knotty tinsel]

what build are you personally the saddest about that it didn't end up working (well)?

[lime cargo]

yeah, all the uniques and set items is what seems like the biggest challenge atm... throwing skills and points together is fine, but knowledge of what items to pair all that with.. I think will just take me time

[vapid aspen]

then you decide on a class or 2 and you look at the potential issues you will have. For that item, the issue you worry about is that flat hp regen is a suffix and suffixes are important for defense.

[marsh maple]

Volcanus Warpath Paladin

[knotty tinsel]

alternatively say "fuck it we ball" and run shattered + last bear set and have 2k hp with 800 regen

[lunar holly]

Dr3ad, what's your twitch now ? 😆

[knotty tinsel]

[vapid aspen]

so if my 2 classes were spellblade and druid for good synergy (spellblade has lots of cold options, druid has lots of hp regen) I would probs go druid because druid has a lot of defenses built in to help compensate for any issues I have while still getting my regen

[marsh maple]

Dr3adful

[vapid aspen]

and from there you kinda just play around. What skills do melee damage?

[lunar holly]

🤔

[marsh maple]

wrong one

[vapid aspen]

you could fairly easily land on a cold swipe werebear setup just kinda following the steps looking at an item.

[marsh maple]

I pm'd you mine @lunar holly

[vapid aspen]

but yeah so basically what I do to learn about items is type shit in the search bar.

for this I would type in "health regen" into search bar on item db and see what comes up.

you find like, call of the tundra and health regen while transformed idols on primalist and that basically is the majority of your build decided

just use the searchbar and follow the thread

[lime cargo]

thansk for the tips.. I'll keep it in mind when I feel brave enough to make my own build 😂

[vapid aspen]

you don't have to run the build, just reading stuff and seeing what fits together can be just as fun

[lime cargo]

how will you know its viable without play testing it though?

[vapid aspen]

experience

but like

again above example, maybe the idea is in the back of your head.

[marsh maple]

you will learn if its viable or not by just slamming your head into a wall until it does or does not

sadly there is no PoB, so you just throw yourself at it 😄

[vapid aspen]

and you're playing a different build and you drop a +4 warcry lp2 call of the tundra from the boss. Now you have an item that might help you

[lime cargo]

alright thanks again for the help guys. I'll keep with this build guide until unlocking empowered at least, then I'll try throwing something together

[marsh maple]

dont be afraid to ask as well

there are plenty of people who have made all the mistakes your about too, so it will save you time

[wide sentinel]

!multiplayerwhenkapppa

[lime cargo]

many thanks! this community has been so helpful already

[twin bramble]

any new info on multiplayer? been waiting to play the game anymore since about February, gettin itchy for it!

[minor vigil]

!multiplayer

[ripe brook]

Multiplayer's still in development. Here's the latest news: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/official-last-epoch-multiplayer-faq/42036.

[twin bramble]

so then september I guess?

[wide sentinel]

no, its noctember

[desert tree]

How could it be September?

[sharp quartz]

Back to the Future part 6

[twin bramble]

september was the last time we heard anything about multiplayer

[burnt bolt]

I could use some help here guys
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/KBgRpLrQ
How can I fit more life/ward buffer into this build? I'd like as much ward as possible, but I'd also accept more life too. Don't mind the crit avoidance, it's what I was tinkering with before i stopped for work

[brittle atlas]

last time we had a news post, but the weekly dev streams always have multiplayer questions. If people want whatever info is coming from those there are transcriptions on the forums, recap videos on yt, etc.

[brittle atlas]

use fewer uniques, basically

don't put resists on chest

use a resist base amulet

get resist blessings

your helmet, chest, belt, boots, and gloves are all missing the core increased health suffixes

[burnt bolt]

@brittle atlas what'd be the best way to turn those slots into ward then?

i've never really built a ward heavy character

[brittle atlas]

if you want to be fully ward focused, then items that generate ward or give ward retention.

things like Twisted Heart, Exsanguinous, Last Steps of the Living, Frostbite Shackles, Strand of Souls, etc.

Vessel of Strife

there are different ways to build into ward depending on how exactly you want to get there and what your build is mostly likely to be good at

but imo, for spellblade, you're best off being more hybrid

building decent life pool and then having some incidental ward via passives, flame ward

[burnt bolt]

alright ty ty

[desert tree]

Does dmg taking in mana instead of hp work with ward?

[brittle atlas]

no

[desert tree]

Are increased dmg and increased ailment effectiveness multiplicative or additive?

[vapid aspen]

they multiply

20% bleed effect + 20% bleed effect = 40% bleed effect. direct 1.4x damage multiplier for bleed.

[desert tree]

And how would affect 20% increased phys dmg?

[balmy current]

The sum of all relevant % increased modifiers multiplies the bleed damage.

So it depends how much % increased phys/DoT you have

[sweet stump]

i have a question about julra's obsession

if i have one with 4lp

does all 8 affixes apply to minions ?

[brittle atlas]

yes

4lp is pretty unlikely on it tho

even 3lp would be quite rare

[desert tree]

I must have phrased my question poorly

Or there is some I don't understand about multiplicative and additive

[sweet stump]

if i add minion damage in the crafted outcome , is it doubled then ?

[safe harness]

Sources of increased damage is added together then their total is used as a damage multiplier. The same is true for ailment effect

So if you’re at 100% increased physical damage, and you gain an extra instance of 20%, you would be at 120% damage

[brittle atlas]

no, because your minions having minion damage does nothing

you're better off putting rarer or harder to get stats on the gloves or things both you and your minions can benefit from

like cast speed in the fire wraiths build, for example

or perhaps crit chance, depending on the minion

so you free up chest/idol affixes for something else

or armor shred chance

[sweet stump]

got you

[thorny frost]

Has it been said anywhere what exactly will be in the first open release of LE multiplayer? I tried searching, but found no statements from devs.

[sweet stump]

is minions considered companions ?

@brittle atlas

[floral badge]

All Companions are Minions. Not all Minions are Companions.

[sweet stump]

so artor's legacy increase max skeletons number ?

[brittle atlas]

companions are a specific subset of minions- only wolves, crows, bear, scorpion, sabertooth, raptor, spriggan are companions

Companions are notably different in the fact that they do not die when their hp reaches 0, but instead go down and can be revived by standing nearby

[sweet stump]

ahaa

[desert tree]

Not yet

[desert tree]

Just to be sure, I can be a bit slow sometimes. If I have 20% Inc bleed effect and 100%increased phys dmg it give me 120% Inc dmg right?

[brittle atlas]

It will give you 100% inc damage and 20% effect. Effect is a separate multiplier