🔪┃rogue

[wary cedar]

thats why we need dem bees

[serene crane]

You gotta ask the devs I guess...

[wary cedar]

if we get a cold melee skill on rogue without uniques requirements, you could do something like
shift - with acid flask - acid flask on bee - a lot of health regen

but then still the strength kinda useless then

i have this as base

or if you can dual wield, depending on class, the mace from the bee set instead of the catalyst

[serene crane]

If you can get enough shadows out, just get Careful Assault, Shadow Torrent or just extra armor shred

[gentle saffron]

Thank you!

[serene crane]

I guess depends how many bees you can get out for the health regen and then you still need some cold melee skill, which can only be Jhelkor DA, to get the damage bonus... otherwise all you're getting is health regen 😄

[wary cedar]

imma try a planner

give me some minutes

i ll show you my cookings then

i m just not sure about the skill trees, never tried melee da

so i need to ttest ingame how things feel ig

[serene crane]

Ive never played any DA at all other then few minutes of trying it out while lvling at like lv25

@daring blade we summon the Detonating Arrow enjoyer for some meme wisdom

[wary cedar]

no this build is hidden op

trust me

[serene crane]

Well, mine has like 1600-2300 health regen with fairly maxxed gear... should have decent crit, multi and inc too

[daring blade]

Honestly? It was only okay. It was fun but couldn't push very hard. It's also very finicky on targeting.

[serene crane]

3000-3500life

[serene crane]

Isnt it like round/cone aoe?

[daring blade]

Yeah, but you have to be practically on top of the enemy or it whiffs

And it doesn't explode if it doesn't connect

If they made it explode 100% of the time it would immediately be 3x better

[serene crane]

Yea I can see how it can be weird 🤔

[daring blade]

The range is short enough that sometimes even controller auto-targeting won't bring you close enough

That's mostly for large targets

What I will say though is that it likely has one of the highest single hit amounts possible in the game without busted cheese like umbral blades

And switching to melee allows it to consume flow

[serene crane]

Yea all the damage nodes look quite good there

[daring blade]

I actually think it might be best as a dot build since there's yet another multiplier on flow and some other multipliers in the tree, but I never attempted that

[serene crane]

There is ignite... before Ive tried cooking some melee DA for ignite and Ember amulet, but well, thats just theorycrafting some off-off-meta builds 😄

since Ember amu can replicate your fire skills, it should also replicate fire converted DA

[wary cedar]

i think you can't even get 5k

what a stupid set item limit

ragebaiting me to the moon

[flint turret]

god damnit my throwing cascade unintentionally became umbral recall

https://youtu.be/Z-Xnsl8EU20

no flow or idols for umbrals but it still hits like a truck

[wary cedar]

@serene crane do you know how good bees survive?

[serene crane]

No idea 😄

[wary cedar]

because bees would be around +100 base regen

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AVa98N1O

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Rogue (36) / Bladedancer (25) / Marksman (25) / Falconer (27)

General:

▸ Health: 2,420, Regen: 1,585.62/s
▸ Mana: 319.51, Regen: 11.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 143%, Regen: 459/s
▸ Attributes: 101 Str / 175 Dex / 45 Int / 60 Att / 89 Vit
▸ Resistances: 32% / -143% / 32% / -128% / 32% / 121% / 126%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 65%, Threshold: 824
▸ Dodge Chance: 40% (1444)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 13% (378)
▸ Block Chance: 5%, Mitigation: 23% (350)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 10%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 25%

Used skills:

Detonating Arrow / Shift / Acid Flask

[wary cedar]

but this build would just be corrupting simulator

but i think with the bees it can get to 3k regen at least

would make 900 ward per second

and number is big

[half nova]

was any specific reason why detonating arrow xd

[serene crane]

its the only cold melee attack

[serene crane]

well with this its:
up to 9 bees from Acid Flask per second
15 bees per 10 seconds from 3 Huge idols
6 bees per 10 seconds from 2 Large idols

[wary cedar]

cold meele

[wary cedar]

how you get bees from flask now

[serene crane]

By cringy throwing them yourself... idk if Bladestorm with traps=>flask and Artifice relic would spawn them... probably would

[wary cedar]

how does throwing flask makes them spawn bee

like what unique

[serene crane]

Huge idol prefix

[wary cedar]

and it needs to be self cast?

[serene crane]

No idea, it doesnt say so so probably not

[wary cedar]

shift only drops 2 flasks tho

maybe combine with this

but this has 3scd cooldown

so maybe traps -> throwing flasks will be the better way it think

[serene crane]

Well it says bow hit tho... no idea If even this gets converted to melee hit with converted DA... I doubt it 😄

[wary cedar]

no would need different bow attack

but the 3sec cd seals it to be unusable

imagine it like shurikens with multishot

lmao

[half nova]

did you test if the cold damage tag was required for the damage scaling?

[wary cedar]

well it's not

but leaving behind adaptive dmg

idk about that

and without mourning you cant really stack flat cold dmg

so would make this rogue only

[half nova]

i mean use mourning and leaving behind adaptive and going with something less jank to play xd

[serene crane]

At that point I'd rather go for the Artifice-Explo-Flask throw, its already a lot of buttons and sh!t 😄

[wary cedar]

no no

i m making this a one button build

with one more button for mobility

[half nova]

also does shadow cascades procced from shadow rend require dual wielding hmm

[wary cedar]

but you see, only one month into the season and my brain is rotting with ideas like these

[serene crane]

No, shouldnt; can play Sync Strike with 2H and it still procs Cascade

[serene crane]

Thats not bad, we started like 3 weeks ago 😄

There are legit bee builds tho

[wary cedar]

i do wonder if the 3 per sec limit is global or per idol

[serene crane]

I woudl guess per idol 🤔

[rare halo]

Hey guys this is my build but im looking for improvements. currently on 300 corruption. worth switching to something like the one in the link? The build i follow said 2.5k corruption and 1 shot uberoth but doubt I'm anywhere near that

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Tektik/character/Narx

[wary cedar]

this build is lowkey so stupid, that i will try it

[serene crane]

It would be nice If we could check how many bees are out in the planner... theres only minions

[wary cedar]

yea the planner doesnt calculates them, i ll do it myself

gimme a min

so alone from corruption we would have 25 bees

that makes it 125 base regen

[flint turret]

i thonk you are pretty close to oneshotting uber tbh

[wary cedar]

makes around 1200 health regen

• any amount of acid flask bees

[flint turret]

just need to add julras and not mess up combo probably

[rare halo]

julras as in the rings?

didnt know they were apart of the build aha

[flint turret]

they are part of oneshot

and more idols for umbrals

[wary cedar]

@serene crane apperantly the 3 bees per sec is a global cap

[rare halo]

the build you posted with the movement speed boots and the primordial dagger looks fast as fk. is the damage just as good?

[flint turret]

overall id say your weakest link are idols

[rare halo]

ahh okay

been trying to farm 2lp boots but not having any luck ill try get some bett3r idols today

julras rings just with throwing dmg or get some phys dmg?

[flint turret]

its decent. but im swapping to tabi for uber #🔪┃rogue message

[flint turret]

ideally both but flat is more important

[serene crane]

Well thats super bad then... 😄

[wary cedar]

it's crazy that there is a 5k cap build in with no way reaching it

[serene crane]

Well the set wasnt made for rogue, half of the sets are pretty much for one class... 😄

[wary cedar]

this class is ass tho

no ones plays it

🤨

[serene crane]

I would really just ditch the bees

[wary cedar]

for what?

for a unique armor?

[serene crane]

Yeah like Yrun / Null... Last Bear set gives 100% life regen but only If you stunned enemey recently so its nothing special

[wary cedar]

or maybe low life setup

since i already have ward via reliq

[serene crane]

Its not 100% convert tho 😄

[wary cedar]

how much ward per second do ward builds usually have?

[serene crane]

Depends on your health

[wary cedar]

3k regen with the reliq is 1k ward per second
would need 5k missing health for it on the armor so sounds good no

[serene crane]

ok also that relic corruption, t7 gave me +400 health regen, so I got to 1900-2600 with average/max rolls

[wary cedar]

have you updated yours

[serene crane]

No, just swap the relic corruption, I didnt touch anything else 😄

for more, just ditch Mourningfrost and go full strength instead of slammed dex

or keep the boots for soem damage I guess

[wary cedar]

i ll get myself this dagger and swap builds

then i l lsee how far i ll go xd

[serene crane]

Almost 2800 health regen with also t7 strength corruption on the amulet

[wary cedar]

on Exilus?

[serene crane]

Its just super corrupted with like 2x t7 slams so its quite unreal without big grind... 😄
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZ37raDP

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (36) / Marksman (30) / Falconer (20)

General:

▸ Health: 3,896, Regen: 2,166.48/s
▸ Mana: 228.51, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 90%, Regen: 87/s
▸ Attributes: 97 Str / 71 Dex / 45 Int / 45 Att / 101 Vit
▸ Resistances: 84% / 81% / 76% / 100% / 91% / 129% / 134%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 46%, Threshold: 1,363
▸ Dodge Chance: 29% (1013)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 11% (300)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 75%

Used skills:

Detonating Arrow / Explosive Trap / Smoke Bomb / Net / Flurry

[wary cedar]

just get the set gloves i have

the give 3% regen incr per strength as well

[serene crane]

OK I updated the link in my message, almost 3400 regen

Well even at minimum rolls, 1700 isnt bad

[wary cedar]

i ll do test run now

[flint bough]

@flint turret i can only use 2 humble idols because im using 2 large omen idols. should i just go for the other ones you suggested?

[serene crane]

Doing offline stuff? 😄

[flint turret]

i think i suggested only those 2: humble and omen

[wary cedar]

no online with close to naked gear

just to see how melee da feels

[flint turret]

so im not sure which ones are you referring to now

i really dunno why you dont want to swap to throw tho, but its your call afterall. im not seeing any benefits of being melee cascade anymore

[potent rune]

Its a lot worse at everything that's the benefit👍

That cascade throw its insane

[flint turret]

single target damage can be better because of better damage efficiency, but if the target is not stationary, melee will be missing more hits so...

[potent rune]

I saw a shuriken multishot one shot uber by stacking blade shield with all the shiriken procs ,unlimited scaling rofl

[flint turret]

yeah thats basically what im trying to do

but i cant get drelks with a corrupt

so im just using all throwing gear i prepared for it on my throw cascade

[potent rune]

Kinda funny they just stack on you ,its impossible to know how many you got

I am not sure but the weaver set 50% should also boost the procrate of shuriken

[flint turret]

im not going bladeshield tho id rather go chakram. its not better dps but its much more cool kekw

[serene crane]

Yeah having a counter at buffs would've been great, since you can at least self-cast them for the armor shield

[flint bough]

think about it this way. it might not be as strong but its more desirable playstyle for me. it's like choosing to use rive instead of erasing strike for a void knight

[flint turret]

but the playstyle is the same...? you just have double the aoe and thats it

[flint bough]

oh?

i thought it was a throw build

[flint turret]

it is a throw build. cascade converted to throw

[serene crane]

Sierping => dex stacking => aoe size stacking => bladestorms casting chakrams If only Bladestorm could also proc Cascade, that would look sick

[flint bough]

can you link me a planner with this. i will consider it

[flint turret]

its not any different from melee cascade, you just need t7 throw on ammy\rings\belt, and hopefully some on relic and gloves

[flint bough]

ohhh i understand

rings will be easy

[flint turret]

thats my current gear https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWXj5PpZ

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Rogue (25) / Bladedancer (74) / Falconer (14)

General:

▸ Health: 1,824, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 215.51, Regen: 10.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 21 Str / 29 Dex / 12 Int / 12 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 124% / 86% / 86% / 96% / 75% / 85% / 90%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 639
▸ Dodge Chance: 29% (989)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 29% (1,367)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 26%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 37%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Shift / Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb

[flint turret]

its giga lowbudget

body and relic should be reforged ideally, maybe champion gloves too

[flint bough]

so with all my BD passives and skill passives i have right now i just need to get t7 throwing damage as a priority

on lets start with rings?

[flint turret]

as you can see my passives are almost exact the same. skills are differemt but that doesnt matter really, you can use sync or whatever. You would need to ready gear with as mych t7 throw as possible, then you swap

[flint bough]

and this will increase my AOE by a lot?

[flint turret]

you have dagger throw 1 point

in cascade

[flint bough]

i know

[flint turret]

thats the basic aoe and you can get 40% extra

[flint bough]

so thats doing nothing right now because i have no throw?

[flint turret]

thats doing all proc in addition to melee

[flint bough]

i understand now

🙂

[flint turret]

but yeah it doesnt do actualo damage for you. but for doubling proc from cascade its 100% worth a point

[flint bough]

🙂

want to watch me run 6.7k corruption

[pearl forge]

i just failed another 10 corruptions

what is this system xd

[serene crane]

You must have missed a 0 at the end...

[flint bough]

hehe 😮

[wary cedar]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/om6xdZN5

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Rogue (36) / Bladedancer (25) / Marksman (25) / Falconer (27)

General:

▸ Health: 2,873, Regen: 2,268.03/s
▸ Mana: 309.51, Regen: 11.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 143%, Regen: 658/s
▸ Attributes: 110 Str / 175 Dex / 45 Int / 45 Att / 89 Vit
▸ Resistances: 32% / -143% / 32% / -95% / 32% / 121% / 126%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 54%, Threshold: 933
▸ Dodge Chance: 51% (1940)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (520)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 15%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 25%

Used skills:

Detonating Arrow / Shift / Smoke Bomb / Explosive Trap / Shadow Cascade

[wary cedar]

yea it can reach around 3k regen

idk what to do about my negative resistances but who cares

[serene crane]

Your resistances from the planner are so in negative numbers it wouldnt be enough to fix with max rolled blessings and idols...

[wary cedar]

let me try different boots

and swapping all dex for strength

[serene crane]

Maybe Snowdrift - small cold flat to attacks, movement speed per dex and frostbite for a bit of damage numbers with all that cold %inc

or Foot of the Mountain, back at it again

[wary cedar]

mana is defn a problem lol

so yea

[serene crane]

Puncture/Flurry with Sapping strikes; both with attack speed and mana gain nodes 😄 or Cinder Strike has mana gain node too, but idk how fast this would be

[wary cedar]

TECHNICALLY

we could put in full set of doppelgaenger

and go shift spam with potion sucking

[serene crane]

would this just be giga bad? 🤔

[wary cedar]

and regain mana with cascade

[wary cedar]

bro, i think without explosion melee DA is just normal melee attack xd

[serene crane]

Yeah that sounds super bad... 😄

[wary cedar]

i l lset up a loot filter tomorrow and farm some gear on my heartseeker for it

[serene crane]

That would be some horrible experience during Omen windows...

[wary cedar]

with enough attack speed the small chance maybe wouldnt matter

like 500% attack speed

but the build is already really tight

[serene crane]

Yea you arent reaching 500% atk speed with this... 😄

[flint turret]

Yeah sure make a video I'll give it a look

[wary cedar]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B5PaM3V3

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Rogue (36) / Bladedancer (25) / Marksman (25) / Falconer (27)

General:

▸ Health: 3,156, Regen: 3,051.72/s
▸ Mana: 362.51, Regen: 13.36/s
▸ Ward Retention: 143%, Regen: 885/s
▸ Attributes: 187 Str / 74 Dex / 45 Int / 45 Att / 89 Vit
▸ Resistances: 32% / 32% / 32% / 80% / 32% / 121% / 126%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 54%, Threshold: 1,143
▸ Dodge Chance: 33% (1132)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (513)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 15%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 25%

Used skills:

Detonating Arrow / Shift / Smoke Bomb / Explosive Trap / Shadow Cascade

[wary cedar]

4k

but losing a lot of flat cold dmg of course

can i somehow import those builds into offline mode?

[serene crane]

Looks great tbh, just getting all this gear will be insanely painful...

no idea, never played offline

[wary cedar]

i think

getting this node

• enough mana regen

would make brutality more worth it

but like only one point

[serene crane]

0mana cost attack with Sapping Strikes would probably be more helpful than just mana regen tbh

[wary cedar]

since bburtality caps at 20 anyway

[wary cedar]

if it costs zero mana brutality ain't doing anything

thats the opposite of what i want

[serene crane]

For Brutality its not really there for the damage but for more health regen 😄 and 0 mana skill wouldnt care for Brutality, it exists there only to get mana back

so like... spam DA => Shift whenever => 0mana skill to get mana back => spam DA

[wary cedar]

bro pls what the hell is sapping strike, give me more context pls

k found it

[wary cedar]

that doesnt look fun to play tho

[serene crane]

Not having mana for skills is not fun

for 0 mana DA you would need dual Jhelkor and at that point you just lose the %inc cold from set sword 😄

[wary cedar]

i want 20mana DA

and sustain it

somehow

maybe

mhhh

shurikens with bladearmor should be best

since im insinde enemies anyway

and they stay around for some time

so i dont need to constanlty cast them

and also gives armor

[serene crane]

Possibly, yeah 😄

[flint bough]

i got the video

going to load it to youtube now

[serene crane]

Its just the one with lowest melee range, Puncture and Flurry can hit from longer distance

[wary cedar]

about same range as meele DA tho

and how does sapping strike work if i hit mutliple enemeis with one cast?

[serene crane]

No idea tbh, never tried it like that 😄

[wary cedar]

the maxroll bladestorm build has it the same

[flint bough]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMIWydhegx4

@flint turret

[serene crane]

You just might get more attack speed, idk how fast you will normalyl throw shurikens

[wary cedar]

i ll see

but if i can pull it up the build becomes quiter tanky

just need to fix res

[serene crane]

Yea this looks crazy

Null can do some good job

[flint bough]

if anyone wants to check me doing 6.7k corruption on melee i made a video 🙂

[wary cedar]

ok that's the final setup i'd say
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AKg9Ee2G

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Rogue (40) / Bladedancer (25) / Marksman (25) / Falconer (22)

General:

▸ Health: 3,100, Regen: 2,695.14/s
▸ Mana: 415.51, Regen: 14.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 143%, Regen: 782/s
▸ Attributes: 169 Str / 74 Dex / 45 Int / 45 Att / 89 Vit
▸ Resistances: 68% / 68% / 68% / 100% / 90% / 121% / 126%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 54%, Threshold: 1,096
▸ Dodge Chance: 33% (1132)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (513)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 15%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 25%

Used skills:

Detonating Arrow / Shift / Smoke Bomb / Shurikens / Shadow Cascade

[flint turret]

I have mixed feelings about this

[serene crane]

1LP relic is more realistic to get tbh, 2LP is lowkey rare I'd say

[flint turret]

It looks better than I expected and looks too bothersome for me play simultaneously

[flint bough]

what do you mean?

[flint turret]

I mean running around in circles trying to kill a rare and going into negative mana doesn't look that appealing to me, but at the same time it's working for you, so it's definitely not bad in itself

[flint bough]

yeah the mana was a mistake. i usually dont have that issue

i will make another video where i dont run into that issue if you wnat

i accidentally used sync twice in a row

[flint turret]

When I played sync cascade I was able to use sync 4-5 times in a row, that felt okay

[flint bough]

oh?

[flint turret]

And I never manually pressed cascade

It's a waste of mana and time

[flint bough]

but i have no mana regen or mana efficiency

[flint turret]

Yeah that's the issue

You can't spam sync

Ideally that would be like 5 sync into shift and repeat

[serene crane]

nor lowlife for better Shift mana, but it is what it is

[flint turret]

Lowlife is dead. Doppel too good

[serene crane]

Yea, its kinda sad 😄

[flint turret]

Ty ehg for health on shadow creation on doppel

It's surely what we all wanted

[flint bough]

so this is worth getting a bunch of mana regen affixes?

[flint turret]

i think you need 2-3 of those

[flint bough]

ah

[flint turret]

and probably manareg yeah

[flint bough]

i made another video with 0 mana issues

[flint turret]

overall i dunno

[flint bough]

so that shows my setup is doable

[flint turret]

i wanna help you with the build but it just seems counted-productive to invest in a dead horse so to say

[wary cedar]

invest in my new build 😎

[flint turret]

i just dont think sync is any good anymore

before they nerf rend at least

[flint bough]

you think i really should ditch the old school bladedancer strategy?

its my favorite

[flint turret]

you should do what you enjoy first and foremost

[flint bough]

it takes a lot of skill to do this

this build

[flint turret]

yeah i know i played it a lot, and with ds too

even tho i dont think its that great to climb corr because melee

[flint bough]

whats the max corruption you have gotten with shadow cascade bladedancer build?

full on melee

[flint turret]

i dont think iwent over 2k on any build, it doesnt really make sense

[flint bough]

i actually have more fun on my 6.7k timeline than my 2k one

[flint turret]

for farming purposes around 1-1.5k is the reasonable max

[flint bough]

i like dodging high damaging attacks

[flint turret]

for that i do uber in budget setups

[flint bough]

so then u understand

[flint turret]

i do

[flint bough]

people want to be able to do something thats hard to do

even if they get nothing in return

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mn1NPARQhM

this is a quick map

no mana issue this one

[flint turret]

Can you link your planner again?

[flint bough]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Big_Mike69/character/Mike_Blade

[serene crane]

If you're using bunch of base set items, just get few of them and corrupt them for the max roll corruption

[flint bough]

yeah?

[serene crane]

Yeah

tiny numbers matter

[flint bough]

🙂

i will look into it

[flint turret]

Okay so realistically you can get t5 mana Regen on belt and one ring at least

And swap to sync mana efficiency on 2 idols

That might help

[flint bough]

so i will need to give up all the armor for a new idol altar

[flint turret]

Also your idol altar is terrible

[flint bough]

let me check something

i can get +16% sync strike on large idols

mana efficiency

and my idol altar can have 2 of them

so i dont need the extra slot for huge idols

[flint turret]

You want a better altar anyway

[potent rune]

@flint bough can you buy idol altars in mg or thats impossible?

[flint turret]

Even if you want to keep thos type with armor at least get it with some t7 affixes

[flint bough]

i can

[flint turret]

Like prefix efficiency t7 or something

[potent rune]

Then I would take advantage having one with good stats give a lot of power to any build nowdays

[flint turret]

Not sure if worth on this altar tho

Pyramid would be giga

[potent rune]

Piramid better yeah

Since you already grt armor from perfection

[flint bough]

can u link me

picture

of altar

[potent rune]

Most op altar ingame

[flint bough]

can you show me example of idols inside the altar

[serene crane]

The relic affix shard isnt bad either 🤔 would free a slot for Primo

Imprinting uniques feels so good

[light tendon]

Is there a reason I'm not seeing Mirage champions anymore?

I have the gloves set to show on filter. But just realizing, since late campaign / early monos, I havent seen any, which is surprising

could be that I messed up the filter...

[potent rune]

I get a ton of drops from omen veil

[serene crane]

Well their spawn is just random

[flint bough]

hey guys im looking for a good Pyramid altar in the MG. can someone help me find a good one?

im trying to replace mine which apparently is trash

[flint bough]

is this good?

[rare halo]

I just found 2 of these so happy 😊

[sour salmon]

I have a question about enemy's crit, If I make them blind then Do I still need crit avoidance or crit DMG reduction?

[pearl forge]

nope

[raw hornet]

can anyone explain how does the explosive trap falconer ballista build work? i cant find any videos about it

[ebon jungle]

wtf 😂

[sour salmon]

I have no clue how this skill node will benefit in some way? is there any good use for it?

[naive saddle]

Faster clear

Does anyone have any intuition to how much damage shadow daggers do (the ones from umbral)?

As far as I can tell they're not an ailment

[digital path]

this is what letools has on it

[naive saddle]

Hm, they should hit like a truck, right?

With stats like that

[digital path]

they do have quite a large ADE

I'm not sure if they inherit any modifiers from the parent tree though, seem like they can be procced from various sources so maybe no

[wary cedar]

alright guys

im starting my journey to get detonating arrow in the ladder now xd

[flint turret]

I had it in my setup #🔪┃rogue message

[flint turret]

Max corrupted set is better. No as hurts

[sour salmon]

is it for melee build? sorry, I'm just messing around with Bow Shadow rend lol

[naive saddle]

just shadow rend

[sour salmon]

I mean. is it also make Bow Shadow Rend clear faster?

*Does it also make Bow Shadow Rend clear faster? sorry not native speaker

[flint turret]

mot much in endgame

it doesnt have "more" scalings available outside of 1 passive and affix that gives pen with shadow daggers

[naive saddle]

kk

So is Lethal Darkness kind of useless?

[serene crane]

No, its just extra damage on top of everything that can still pull some okay numbers

[flint turret]

well its still some damage and a bit more triggers for other stuff... but shadow daggers main purpose is leveling and early monos overall

[serene crane]

Ive done Rend with purely shadow daggers and it was doing fine for like 600-1000corr but definitely not stronger than other Rend builds 😄 but it surely works

[flint turret]

i dont have lethal darkness now in my throw cascade rend because umbrals are hungry for points

i think +4 flat for umbrals do me more than sd

[naive saddle]

I'm purely looking to eek out extra damage past 9k corr

[flint turret]

or maybe not dunno

at that high corr sd is irrelevant

just focus on your recall umbrals or whatever you are using

[serene crane]

As Misha said before, at that point you just kill things with stacked umbrals 😄

[flint turret]

yeah the scaling on those is pretty insane. i dont have neither idols for umbrals nor im using flow but they hit really hard already with shift recall on my throw cascade

[serene crane]

I guess converted DA to melee no longer benefits from bow passives in MM tree, right? 🤔

[wary cedar]

🥀

[serene crane]

Hows your immortality going

[wary cedar]

i think i will to the build with shatter strike

but the build is the same, only one unique changes, despite using completely different classes xd

[serene crane]

Yea Shatter Strike can be cool I guess 😄 it can go pretty wild with high attack speed

its like Flurry on crack

[wary cedar]

selling point is mostly the range of DA

since the range is non existence

and i can use this, so stacking strength will also scale skill dmg

[serene crane]

oof is it realyl that bad?

[wary cedar]

the explosion can be good, but for the attack i need to stand in the enemies

but since the build is the same, with both classes, i can try with both

trying to get some starter gear rn, farming it with heartseeker

[serene crane]

Well the aoe of Shatter Strike is pretty nice tho

[wary cedar]

yup

i also have a spellblade at around 80 or so

[serene crane]

I was thinking about something with Orb Weaver 2H sword and Abandoned set for the 50% weaver weapon affix bonus... its either lightning Rend, detonate Bladestorm which I already play the phys version or some Sync strike => Cascade 🤔 Flurry/Puncture would probably feel pretty bad... and sadly Dancing Strikes is dual wield...

[wary cedar]

maybe Meele DA?

[serene crane]

If I could dual wield 2H sword with Jhelkor dagger, yeah... 😄

[wary cedar]

maybe if you reach 250 strength you can use a two hand weapon with just one hand

[serene crane]

ngl that would be a funny passive or affix on some unique

[wary cedar]

not the final base

but first craft

good for starter

[serene crane]

Should be some nice amount of strength on mage 😄

[wary cedar]

redemption

man give me regen!!!!!!!!

[serene crane]

crazy health

[wary cedar]

hybrid health be like:

[serene crane]

Just corrupt it into t7 hybrid health

[flint turret]

okay time to pump another 400k into red rings

and then farm another 500 for drelks

feels a bit to grindy ngl

[wary cedar]

lets gooooo

[serene crane]

Big ward too I guess 🤔

[wary cedar]

is there any good mechanic for farming set items?

besides CoF?

[serene crane]

Only echo rewards I guess

that Shattered set you want for cold/hp regen is from The Stolen Lance boss tho, so thats a boring boss fight

[serene crane]

The season will be over before phys throw shuri build gets ready 🙁

[wary cedar]

this set isnt the problem

[flint turret]

it is what it is

[serene crane]

2nd echo in a row that gave me LE-63 error, fml

[wary cedar]

its a feature

so you remmber to restart your game so you dont complain about memory leak

[serene crane]

@buoyant roost definitely not some fast boss killer, but I guess its tanky enough 😄
https://youtu.be/83QlzxY3eSk

[flint turret]

yeah i was expecting 4lp before second rr

[serene crane]

I bet on 4LP crab ring before RR

[flint turret]

i got rr at home

24 lul

[serene crane]

I got like 2 since Friday, corrupted them both and it removed all legendary affixes on both

10/10 deal

[flint turret]

400k without rr again

but i got 6th ravs out of 2 extra gaspar kills

its 6 out of less than 20 kills in total i think

i guess i still dont have to farm drelk and thats an upside? kekw

another 4lp

[serene crane]

Being lucky in the wrong way

[flint turret]

i think i wont be taking any gaspar prophesies for rings anymore, i wont be able to tolerate another ravs from 2 kills

dam i messed up my prisons setup

killing boss counts as finishing an echo? it removed my double 40% bonus exp for next echo

not 4 still

[wary cedar]

lp5 when?

[serene crane]

Then RR drops and Nemesis gives it t1 minion damage

[flint turret]

for some reason im giga unlucky with rrs this season, i never had this issue

i have 2lp nihilis and 2lp shattered but no second rr in like 1.5m+ favor deep

[jade bridge]

thats because both nihilis and shattered is statistically way more common than RR

[flint turret]

i would argue with that if we factor in the amount of attempts for them

1 ring is 250 favor roughly. 1.5m favor is 6k rings

chance for rr even from asc is 1\818 and unique prophesies cant drop set rings so its even better

and i got 4 rings for 1.5m

and none from double imprint

[jade bridge]

because imprints are useless now thats 1 issue

2 is your kinda wrong understanding how % chances work

i average 300k favor per ring

[serene crane]

Imprints are about the best now for some more common-ish uniques

[jade bridge]

so u dropping 4 per 1.5m sounds about normal

do you know what reroll chance on the item means?

[flint turret]

yes i know how it works and the table already includes those

thats why its so high

[jade bridge]

i never seen that table but basically, RR is silver ring base

there is 3 unique silver rings that can drop

98% chance to reroll on RR is that when it drops a unique silver ring base, it has a 98% chance of not being an RR

so if u dropped solely 100 unique silver rings statistically only 2 of em will be RR

[flint turret]

is that were true i would have bathed in rrs

because ive sold hundreds and hundreds of quicksilver and aboreal at this point to vendor

[jade bridge]

and thats why its a statistic

if u flip a coin, it has a 50/50 chance of landing on heads

but that doesnt mean u can flip it 200 times and it will be a 50/50 split

you should be close to a 50/50 split, but u can roll heads 200 times in a row too if u flip the coin enough of times

so yes i had dry streaks of spending milions of favor and not getting single one, then dropping 3 back to back basically

but even the chances we know are thanks to dataminers, since EHG loves to not tell u anything

[flint turret]

thanks i know how statistics work, and that was exactly my point that im far from statistics on lots of occasions. dropping 6 ravs from less than 20 gaspars is nowhere near normal

[jade bridge]

yea, lucky somewhere, unlucky elsewhere, like me landing perfect unstable core corruption on my second try, while corrupting over 80 legend entwined rings and not getting anything even remotely usefull to my build

[unique umbra]

To your point. I got my first RR ever yesterday and I also got three more from imprints yesterday.

One of them lp 1

[jade bridge]

i generally think a lot of items need to be tweaked to begin , not only are some items like RR super rare, then u add another layer to it with rolling LP

if u code an item into the game right, and u give it 4LP chance (taking up code space and resources) and then u give it 1 in over 400mil chance to drop

why did u even code it into the game? 😂

instead of fixing bugs or focusing on your terrible balance in the game 😂

[serene crane]

All the people over the years in #👑┃item-showcase with their 4LP Red Rings without a planner or online character to be seen or heard of ever again...

[jade bridge]

they argued to me that some items are just not supposed to drop with so much LP cos of their power

that is totally fine and valid

i agree

soooooo , limit their LP instead of making it a unicorn just for the fun of it

[light tendon]

huge lmfao!!! howd u get that particular 2x t7?

[jade bridge]

smells like a nemesis drop to me

[wary cedar]

nemesis and redepmtion

i didnt want health tho

so i rerolled further and got health gen and slammed it on my wall of nothing

[serene crane]

You better show up with some crazy numbers

[wary cedar]

playing some ARAM rn

after one month of grinding i gotta take it slow

espaically since i have no runes for crafting left

[serene crane]

Yea they really need to do something better for runes in 1.5...

[wary cedar]

lack of runes really hit my motivation hard

if there would be a gooood way to farm them it would be something else

but hitting Runes on CoF is kinda whanky

[serene crane]

Im running with the weaver node for chance for runes/glyphs from rare enraged enemies, which kinda helps... Rift Beasts feel good when you get the right evolution, but all it takes is bad luck and it just feels like super waste of time 😄

[light tendon]

I got a questionj about the Omen Chains - ive largely been avoiding them cuz HC but need idols so gonna push the content.

The final echo of a chain... there's a "breach-like" Omen that is found in regular timelines. But then there's also this purple "monster-like" icon on the map that somewhat follows you.

Should I be dragging that monster into the omen circle? Fighting them indepdentntly? Ignoring him all togehter?

I've only done 2 so far. it's kinda hard to tell whats going on in the thick of the action + i cant see anythihng with Rend build

[serene crane]

There is either the Omen window that just keeps spawning waves of enemies which you gotta kill before the Omen guy becomes killable; then the roaming Omen guy where you only kill few mobs around to be able to kill the Omen guy and then the Pinnacle of Chaos echo, where are 2 Omen guys that keep spawning waves of champion enemies, can be quite rippy and after you kill them you get the option to spawn a new echo chain of like beasts/nemesis/stability/omens or to take the currency... and Omen's Veil echo which you can buy from the naga vendor for triple Omen windows for waves of enemies and possibly to get the drop for Observer new uber boss fight

[jade bridge]

there is, its just a miserable thing to do

[wary cedar]

that's what i mean with goooood

[jade bridge]

i mean honestly a lot of problems have simple solutions with adding some QoL but EHG seems to be allergic to it

but they did promise a CoF revork for s5 so im on copium again

[wary cedar]

idc of CoF rework

[jade bridge]

if they fumble the rework i might just quit the game

[wary cedar]

rework the old season mechanics to make them more accessible

but the content we got overall since launch would be just one content update in different games

[wary cedar]

what game else you play? LE is the only arpg i play xd

[jade bridge]

atm, nothing actually, but i do have some stuff i always come back to for few months until i get bored again and cycle to the next thing

and on days like these where i dont feel like playing at all, i just watch some anime

[wary cedar]

i feel like i got adhd or something, i cant focus on animes because i cant to anything next to it since i need to read the subtitles

[jade bridge]

i feel like that about the trashy ones , but i also seen so many i dont need to look at the screen to know whats happening cos i know about 70% of the common words

if u hear it enough and read the subtitles enough u will eventually learn the words

thats how u learn any language to begin with

[light tendon]

Thanks. Yes I Just had the 2 omen guys that keep sawning waves. It WAS veyr rippy. why is that one so much more dangerous? It looks kinda like the normal ones in the echoes... I almost died tbh.

[jade bridge]

im not native english either, had to learn, i speak 3 languages, and understand 6 others at a basic level

[jade bridge]

because of the omen tethers

the little line they attach themselves with the mob itself

not only does it heal them to full from time to time, but its also massive HP and dmg reduction and atk modifier

normal champs barely scrape me, but omen boosted ones can onetap me from full if im not careful

[light tendon]

Ohhh so it's the linked guys that are the biggest threat?

GOod to know - avoid their melee and try to kite any ranged they do...

[jade bridge]

i always try to instakill at least one of the champions as they spawn because thats when they are not tethered yet so they pretty much get deleted so its one less thing to worry about

but they gotta spawn near u

[light tendon]

yeah i jsut did a normal omen in an echo and I can literally face tank it infinitely. But those 2x omen guys, I was kiting and pre-generating ward before re-engaging etc, and it still was sketchy... and I was dancing around a lot

[jade bridge]

if they all spawn on the opposive side of the arena its asspain

[light tendon]

It's not an expanding circle, it seemed?
Almost like the whole map becomes spawnable area?

but the tethered mobs will likely be near-ish the OMen guys

[jade bridge]

the way to not get hit by the omens themselves at all is to just run a circle around them, champions gotta pay attention to what they are doing and what types spawned

[jade bridge]

ist not but u gotta stand in the circle, the champs spawn on the very outside tho

[light tendon]

I see

[jade bridge]

the champs dont actually spawn the champions

i mean omens*

[light tendon]

are the omens much of a threat

[jade bridge]

depends on your build i guess, there is a couple of omens i can ignore but the fire vortex or the avalance one i cant

because the dmg ramp of them is too fast and too high for me to tank it

[light tendon]

and what's the point of the 2 omen guys that patrol around (not associated with the Omen circle itself). I killed them fairly easily. They have specific monster-icons on the map.

[jade bridge]

from what i understand its just the omen guys, but they ´´yet to establish´´ their fracture

its just a free rune of corruption pretty much

[light tendon]

my second (first?) char died to some sweeping laser beam that the omen did then it exploded. I was early in echoes tho, wiht that char.

[jade bridge]

there is no point to them

its just a gimmick to the omen echo chain

[jade bridge]

dunno what u mean by laser beam, outside of the electric omen

they spawn something like an electric laser from point A to point B

[light tendon]

not sure tbh but needless to say, Im careful of short-range laser beam sweeps lately

[jade bridge]

could also been the avalanche, it fires a big icicle that leaves almost invisible trail of frost on the ground that deals massive DoT dmg

the ice omen can use snap freeze too

if u know what that skill is

except he actually does dmg with it 😂

close range shotgun blast that freezes u basically

i wouldnt actually worry too much about dying to omens from skill issue perspective cos whoever came up with this garbage didnt playtest it at all, as is evident with the countless bugs associated with em, (like the slugs, they fixed by some miracle cos people complained about it so much they had no choice)

[flint turret]

at least i can farm 500k favor in a bit more than an hour...

[serene crane]

Well thats a nice one... I got like 10 in stash and they are all mid at best 😄

[light tendon]

do we know if LP on uniques witin the Imprint slot (Weaver Tree) impacts the chances of LP on drops?

I feel like it does cuz I have a 4LP Firestarter's Torch in the Commoner's Riches. And I've gotten about ~16 Firestarter's Torches from it so far. And most if not every single one, is 2LP+...

Alternatively, I have a Tabi of Dusk and Sawn in Echoing Riches, that has 2LP already used (Move speed and crit avoid/dodge rating), and the couple of Tabi's are 0LP and 1LP

(So if LP matters, does it have to be unused LP)

[potent rune]

It does matter quite a bit look at it this way normal lp gain of an unique is defined by a reroll ,when item drops its 0 lp,then it rolls for it to become 1 lp if it fails it stays at 0 if it pass it now is 1 lp item,then it try again for a 2 lp if it fails it stays at 1 lp if ot pass its now at 2 lp and this happens for every lp level,and you only got 1 chance.

[potent rune]

But for imprints uniques every 2 lp levels you gain an extra reroll,so a 4 lp item has 3 rerolls instead of 1 so you have extra chances to get higher lp items, every level is half a reroll meaning a 50% chance it tries to reroll but this is not guaranteed,this applies to 1 lp and 3 lp items imprinted

[potent rune]

Slammed lp it functions the same a 3 lp items not slammed its same as a 3lp item slammed,this is good cause nemesis fail lp gain can get you some insane rare lp items for imprints

[light tendon]

Damn...knowing the mechanics is like 90% of the battle to get good items

[potent rune]

It is 👍

Thats why we are here

[light tendon]

That's huge to know... To recap:

• Yes it matters. every 2LP gives +1 reroll chance.
• "Slammed" LP is the same as "Unused" LP
  ?

[potent rune]

Yep

[light tendon]

Huge...thx...

[potent rune]

If you had a 3 lp item imprinted for example you would had 2 reroll and a 50% chance for a third to happen

1 lp would be a 1 reroll and a 50% chance for a second reroll to happen

2 lp 2 reroll guarantee ,4 lp 3 rerolls

Imprint wise

Also idk if you know but imprint items care about the range of the affixes in it

So a max rolled imprint unique would drop more often max roll uniques

[light tendon]

That makes a lot of sense because my 42% (top range) More Fire Dmg FIrestarter's is dropping a ton of 39-42% more fire dmg Torches

[potent rune]

This is useful for example items that have big ranges and you care that they have max rolls or close of it

[wary cedar]

so much wow

so uwu

[light tendon]

A question about Nemesis encounters. I find myself banishing like 70-80%. I dont have 0LP uniques (that I need) for the Egg. And I need Exalted base types: Sceptre, Body Armor, Belt, Ring (So if none of these spawn, I Banish). That's a fair strategy?

Just makes me feel like I'm missing opportunity.

[potent rune]

And imprinted uniques get buffed by cof rank of buffing the lp on uniques as well

[potent rune]

If you don't have uniques to egg and dont care about empowering other exalts you are doing it ok,for conquered tower though I would have an unique and empower no matter what ,also you can empower and egg will become something random and sometimes its pretty good

[unique umbra]

Wow this is so helpful.
I have a raw 3lp dagger imprinted but I think I have a 4 lp nemesis dagger I need to swap it with. (It might be corrupted one though. Can’t remember. You can’t put corrupted items in imprint right?)

[serene crane]

No corrupts in the imprints

[unique umbra]

If you have points in your weave tree you’re missing out on the exalts the nemesis drops by not at least challenging it.

[potent rune]

Just sharing the wealth 😅

[unique umbra]

Don’t trust the turtle though. It’s a demon mistress. I rolled a full page of daggers (tongues) and fot 0 lp3s. Best bet is high corruption prophecies.

[flint turret]

another 500k looks like going to some useless 4lps again

[potent rune]

Turtle is not great imo,is still buffed by cof bonus,but with no corruption scaling its kinda weak

Sometimes it does the job but rarely

[jade bridge]

i mean nearly all my best LPs are from turtle

my only 3LP foots were from turtle as well

2 out of my 3 2LP shattered worls were from turtle too 😂 its definitely helpfull

currently on a mission to completely fill up a page of stash with just maxroll 1LP Entwined rings and then turtle all of them,

probably a futile effort bur rolling them first then doing LP is easier than hitting like 3LP entwine with shit stats and having no way to ever reroll it

[flint turret]

okay got extra 1rr so im at 5 rr per 2m favor now

[jade bridge]

below average luck

but not too terrible

[flint turret]

3 3lp nomads 4 3lp crabs and a bunch of 4lp garbage

[jade bridge]

if u think farming RR is pain try getting 3LP Julra stardial with good rolls , good slam and good corruption 😂

[flint turret]

nemeisis does have a sense a humor afterall

[jade bridge]

minroll pain

[flint turret]

dunno if i should just settle with it

probably yes

othervise im neverr gonna start farming drelk at this point

[serene crane]

Maybe I even find a motivation for another build to play before you start farming bows

[potent rune]

Ysah but most of mine come from nemesis ,this guy is the true hero

[serene crane]

Was there any talk or info about the new BD skill from devs, btw?

[jade bridge]

nemesis loves to brick all my items

[potent rune]

You want another skill didn't you get a busted one already 🤣

[jade bridge]

forget new skills, give me a mage passive tree/class stats rework

[serene crane]

Well for some reason EHG decided to make it a rogue skill

[potent rune]

Its too early for next changes in 2 -3 months should get maybe leak uniques if its not a 7 month season

[jade bridge]

its actually sad how weak the mage stuff is compared to other classes

[potent rune]

Ysah baffling indeed shadow rend should be bladedancer exclusive which means you have a spot for another mega busted shadow skill

[serene crane]

I think its gonna be in style of Puncture, some more direct skill than just another enslaved skill to break the game with shadows

[potent rune]

You are giving them too much credit ,maybe an alternative to not use cascade only as a dps option for melee

Next league they should focus on shaman or forgeguard ,paladin missing a skill too but its very good anyway

[serene crane]

Yeah... "here, you get another shadow and cascade geneator with shadow daggers and you gonna like it !"

[jade bridge]

go forth my child. enjoy being broken while we nerf everything else (all mage builds) again and make u more OP

[potent rune]

Shadow daggers getting their own tree 👍

[vestal flare]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/dka5o0tg

i really need help figuring out how to sustain mana

i'm constantly running out

it works if i remove the dark allies node from sync strike, but that's extremely crippling

[jade bridge]

you want the RNG fix?

[vestal flare]

huh?

[jade bridge]

2LP brewmaster with experimental mana on potion use slammed

[vestal flare]

i

i'd rather not have to constantly hit pots

and it doesn't exactly solve the issue, does it

i won't be able to constantly get pots

[jade bridge]

actually the way the pots drop is the more u used up the more they drop

my ground is littered with potions and i have no extra potion find chance

[vestal flare]

i mean, you need to kill stuff to get pots

[potent rune]

You need more mana efficiency with syncro strike either an affix on your chest or helmet or get like piramid altar and get mana efficiency idols

[vestal flare]

if you do bosses, you're fd

[serene crane]

More mana efficiency with sync strike idols, actual altar with prefix boost and possibly even prefix on body/helmet

[jade bridge]

i mean yea thats the regular way to fix it 😂

u just need better utility gear

[vestal flare]

i have those

currently searching for a t7 altar

[potent rune]

You got 2 more like 5 I was implying

[jade bridge]

yea, pyramid altar and stack 5 of those 4 by 1 idols with mana eff

wait can pyramid fit that actually

[potent rune]

2 dont fix anything,you still need that affix on gear if you don't get more idols and a good altar

Yeah it can omens have that affix i think

[serene crane]

yeah

[potent rune]

Sucks loosing the 13% hp omen idols but wcyd

[jade bridge]

no but isnt the pyramid only 3 tall on the sides or am i washed

can only fit 3 into the pyramid

[serene crane]

2x 3 tall omen and 3x huge normal

[jade bridge]

ooh omen has the affix for shorter idol

yea that makes sense

[potent rune]

You can get 5

[jade bridge]

ye ye ye, i forgor gome

btw i dropped an insane sunrise altar, but need another good 2by2 idol to swap

lemme post it so u can be jelly 😂

55 prefix 73 suffix

[serene crane]

What to use there tho... like 2x adorned, 3x large and 3x 1x1 ?

[jade bridge]

2x2 bottom left and right

3x1 left top and right collums

[serene crane]

or like 5x strout maybe for the penetrations and stuff

[jade bridge]

1 stout bottom center

5x small idol

1 small weaver in the last refracted and 4 to fill the left over gaps

[potent rune]

Remember only 2 weaver ones

[jade bridge]

will make use of all the refract slots

yea, 1 stout weaver and 1 small weaver

[potent rune]

Do use normal ones

[jade bridge]

3x small normal

with armor and light dmg

[potent rune]

If it was a 3 ornate idol altar would be real jelly

[serene crane]

Would be pretty sweet for some dual swords bleed build

[jade bridge]

i mean ultimately a pyramid with 5 omens will beat anything

but i dont have 5 good omen idols 😂

[light tendon]

good point.

I only see 2 nemesis nodes on the weaver tree. +Chance and +Weapon drop chance.

[potent rune]

I stopped doing enchantment on my idols like too much pain ,drop then get corrupted ,?unless its a op enchantment that you need .

[potent rune]

They are unreliable anyway for sure empowering nets you more exalts in the long run

[serene crane]

You dont enjoy like 60% corrupts being minion crap?

[potent rune]

Stun avoidance the thrue goat on corrupts and prefix on many of my idols farm

[serene crane]

I got this one recently for Weaver boost + omen limit... just the shape is not great for me...

[unique umbra]

Get your cooldown up and switch to the 8s cooldown node.

[unique umbra]

Chance to not consume silver shroud + increase weaver pyramid alter is goated.

I think I currently have 35% chance to not consume and it can still get better. (10+7+4)*1:68

[wary cedar]

i dislike people who use the maxroll planner

that's all i had to say

thanks for reading

[light tendon]

like this. Any way I can make this "imprint worthy"?
Goal is to get belts to seal Jormun's (and ideally strong 1P / 2S (THrowing Damage, Health, CDR))

[wary cedar]

Imprinting Exalted Items is dead

if you re looking for a single Exalted Belt go for it

[light tendon]

ok so craft my little heart out on this one

cool finally got a 2x T7 Sceptre. Trying to get a perfect 4LP sceptre but I'd settle for 2x T7 Prefix.
What's best math to accomplish that here? craft 1 suffix, Havoc until T7, Craft 2 prefix? (I can't seal the existing Prefix tho...) Then try to Havoc back to prefix?

Sounds like a lot of FP

[wary cedar]

you need like 100-150 FP for what you want to do

[light tendon]

so no hope

[wary cedar]

you can wait for S5

devs said they think about adjusting FP

[potent rune]

After many years that would be nice and appropriate

[potent rune]

What affixes you need on this weapon

[light tendon]

Ive been sitting on a 4lp firestater's torch for a bit

Worst case, just the 2 prefixes, because even a 2LP Firestarter's (which I have plenty of) with the right prefixes, would be an upgrade

[potent rune]

Need to redemption the fire one unless you go for a rune of removal , trying to hit that t1 cast speed

[light tendon]

True. Even with a successful redemtpion, Id have to Remove the cast speed?

[wary cedar]

titties

[jade bridge]

you already have a seal so the only thing u could do is havoc to t7 the cast speed then redemption it away

or gamba 25% removal

eitherway its most likely gonna brick

even if u havoc and hit what u wanna reroll its still random reroll

so either u chaos upgrade the affix and hope it gets u what u need or gamba 25% removal

[plain flume]

I finally managed to craft my glove

[kind adder]

I weirdly get this

[random halo]

Is exalt the best gear to use?

[zenith bridge]

Anyone tried out a beemancer build as rogue?

[vital tiger]

Can anyone suggest a build for farming corruption and bosses

[muted cradle]

What is better ? Mele damage or shadow damage ?

For idols

[ebon jungle]

Would you guys argue that Gathering Fury is a better weapon to proc shurikens on crit?

[wary cedar]

for proccing you only want attack speed

[serene crane]

Technically you want crit to even proc it 🤓

[serene crane]

There are probably some better ones, I know Max has done some bees build
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKZQmV9bidY&t=360s

[serene crane]

Shadow Rend is fairly easy to put together for mapping and killing bosses while facetanking whole bunch of stuff with all the ward generation

Should I start the bleed shuriken Heartseeker with Puncture to big bleed pop? 🤔

[flint turret]

i think i already have most of corrupted affixes t6-7 on 1lp slammed drelks except shuri

i actually ran out of creation runes which i had 30+

and im running of t7 bows with as \ flat crit \ phys damage \ crit multi, and i had a ton of them

[serene crane]

Im down to like 30 corruption runes too... Not great tbh 😄

[flint turret]

t7 slam > ruined > t7 slam > made into rare > t7 slam > removed legendary affix > t7 slam > minroll

i hate my life

[flint turret]

got second drelk corrupt with t7 icicle fml

and second t7 slow

okay so im at 33 1lp drelkor bows that have gotten +affix after corruption, not a single shuriken one. and i havent even counted 0lp dreklors i got and corrupted all of them without seeng shuri of any lvl

sounds kinda rigged

it should be 4.25% chance to get a shuri corruption

[tired hinge]

Hi, new player here getting to the end-game and want to push corruption, what is the best place to do this ? I've quite ineffective spread out my efforts to all monos; get all to 300 > get all to 500 etc.
But I assume focusing on one is better, is there any consensus on which is the "easiest" or "best" to do this in ?
I'm running phys shadow rend and mostly just need good exalted, so should not matter much about uniques

[flint turret]

i like dragon because the boss is big and doesnt do anything

[tired hinge]

Reign of dragons ?

[flint turret]

but in general it doesnt matter tbh

yeah

you just kill all bosses with needle and if you have more that 10 gazes the orobyss node spawn is guaranteed

if it has the place to spawn near you

you bsically just kill boss-clear 1 echo-orobyss

and repeat

[tired hinge]

sounds like a plan, I also notised I liked the dragon boss since the umbral recall seems to miss alot, but not on this huge boss 😉

[serene crane]

Alright, I found one lonely lv60 marksman with no purpouse... I guess its time to turn her into the bleed heartseeker build

[wooden lava]

Welcome to why I gave up on multishot

If I have to rely on a corruption to make it even viable at higher monos and Pinnacle bosses, I don't want it

I had everything at 2lp perfect for MS, didn't matter and it still sucked

I feel like MS is balanced around being a passive damage bonus for everything else first so the ceiling is stupid low

[serene crane]

Thats why it lowkey sucks... If anything there should be either a node/unique/set that enables to proc Shurikens from bow/whatever attacks (honestly make it for melee too, so something like lightning Detonate Arrow with Shurikens to proc might be quite cool), and just then having a corruption to proc shurikens on top of this would be reasonable to grind for as optional upgrade to minmax stuff

[wooden lava]

Meanwhile, I have a single LP for erasing strike slammed on my alt's gear and it feels nearly as good as the almost 100 hours I put into theorycrafting and perfectly itemizing and experimenting with MS lmao

[serene crane]

There are just those few skills that will outperform other skills way more easily 😄

Eeeh I was really hoping Hail of Arrows could crit so it could proc the shurikens aswell... but the skill isnt even considered a "hit" so I guess there goes that

[wary cedar]

@serene crane make me say uwu

[serene crane]

5000 health regen rogue

[wary cedar]

slightly moans

but tbh i think all these build sucks in reality

since you have nothing for mana beside a mana sustain spell

and i really hate the gameplay of having an attack for filling up mana

[serene crane]

Depends on the build I guess 🤔 I really liked the Detonation Bladestorm... not some insane damage, but good for 400-1000 and it pretty much fills mana itself

[ebon jungle]

what doink

[serene crane]

Just replace Decoy for more beyblading

[wary cedar]

imagine a class that can use any skill from every class

the cooking would be so cool

[serene crane]

With animations included, I'd go for Dancing Strikes swarmblade.. or werebear

Ive suggested something like that in #suggestions but tbh... its like 95% too much to expect

[wary cedar]

i dont think this channel does anything at all

[serene crane]

Yeah, I was hoping there could be some stream with devs, since those are happening, where they would just go post-by-post in that channel and talked about some possible stuff

I think I kinda overkilled it with Peak at lv61...

[wary cedar]

even then, with the lack of content we have, talking about it wont make it happen, i m not very optimistic

[serene crane]

Yeah, 1.4 could've had so much more... buuuut there is still more game development and communication from devs than for example ANet and guild wars 2... thats some crazy horrible experience 😄

[wary cedar]

i never played those nor do i know what they are

but in terms of LE it is a Life Service game since it depends on new seasons and stuff

and content just feels so sparse

The Weaver Update was a good one as far as i remember

primo update also kinda small

now small update again

[serene crane]

I guess they took a big bite with the whole expansion announcement when the story of the game wasnt even finished yet 😄

Hmmm I wonder... If I take this silly node, then I equip Carrion of Creation... would that technically convert all armor shred to bleed chance or its very illegal and unreal double conversion? 🤔

[wary cedar]

idc about story, i want meaningful and fun endgame loot grind with a good varity on builds, every build i think of ends in a dead end somewhere 😔

[serene crane]

The game overall got some powercreep everywhere... so I guess kinda whatever can do 500corr nowdays, kill Aberroth and most likely Observer too

There should definitely be more uber bosses and more loot from them tbh

[flint turret]

okay so i asked to check mg for t6-7 shuri drelkors.... its 23k gold.... and here i am trying for a week to start playing it on cof

[serene crane]

ngl, this all feels like 1.2 CoF all over again with no CoF resources to keep up with corrupting the items

[flint turret]

i guess it would have been faster if i just swapped to mg and farmed\sold some nihilis and worlds

[marble zealot]

uhh i havent seen lower than like 1-2mil for a t6+ corrupt shuri drelkor in ages

[flint turret]

1-2mil is basically free anyway

[marble zealot]

ye

[flint turret]

i guess ill just go mg next season for a change, because its not even funny fow disproportional access to this build is

i can farm 500k favor in hour but i just cand do this anymore bros

[marble zealot]

ye its definitely pretty wild atm

on mg you farm uabby for 3 days and tada 2t7 every slot

maybe prophecy rework brings back some balance

[serene crane]

Maybe the game could use a bit less of this constant rng circus gamble fiesta...

[flint turret]

on cof i also have to farm ubers just to keep buying tabs, because hundreds of bows and quivers eat a lot of space ngl

im even selling rings for gold from prophesies

1-2k each, hundreds of thousands them

i mean i still like cof... but this one build with a corruption as a requirment just doesnt work on cof for me

[serene crane]

Just very bad game design decision

[flint turret]

im way past all statistic expectations of 4.25% chance of shuri corrupt because im pretty sure im over 100 drelks already. because i have 34 of them with 1lp+second corrupted affix already, and i havent even counted 0lps

[flint turret]

yeah thats what i was saying since day1. you cant put a build pre-requisite behind hundreds of corruptions and call it a day. its terrible

for cof especially, because on mg everyone is getting it from omens for free and only a tiny few need them

[serene crane]

I think devs are just gambling addicts

[maiden gyro]

purty good...

[flint turret]

what a waste

[maiden gyro]

good enough for me -shrug-

[serene crane]

Corrupt it

[maiden gyro]

no, got a 3lp ill corrupt for the hell of it

[serene crane]

[flint turret]

this one ended up as 2lp basically tho

[maiden gyro]

shrug better than what i had which was a 1lp

that somehow rolled a 3rd one even though it only had 2lp on it

[eager mason]

tried the acid flask stuff was pretty shit

[wary cedar]

corrupt it

[serene crane]

Im pretty sure next patch will bring like two new bee uniques, several idol affixes/enchants and maybe even some nodes... 😄

[granite rover]

Hi all. . looking for some advice on my shadow rend rogue.. anyone know why when i am fighting uber aberoth.. i can't seem to get my mana back quick enough.. vs when i fight like a regular harbinger boss

i always run out at like in the middle of the battle and i can't keep my ward up and get 1 shot

[wary cedar]

maybe health regen will be a thing then

[flint turret]

If you have falconer passive for mana on dodge that might be the reason. You don't dodge as much in a Uber fight. I can recommend sticking to the top part of the map, and on phase 3 there will be water waves which will trigger your mana on dodge, that phase you basically "recharge" to full and you should last to the end of the fight. Or you can just add 1 mana Regen affix t5 somewhere and swap that piece for uber

[granite rover]

no i dont' have mana on dodge. I am jusing the shadow cascade with shadow rend built

[zenith bridge]

Yea tried it with fire conversion AF and wildfire amulet for extra procs. But the playstyle and dmg ramp up for bees is horrible. Also you need full corrupted idol setup to finally have good clear and st dmg

[granite rover]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qqwvy2M0

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Rogue (28) / Bladedancer (70) / Marksman (9) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,729, Regen: 19.86/s
▸ Mana: 275, Regen: 13.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 34%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 17 Str / 35 Dex / 17 Int / 30 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 98% / 34% / 34% / 67% / 29% / 46% / 104%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 346
▸ Dodge Chance: 19% (616)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 30% (1,451)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 95%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Smoke Bomb / Umbral Blades / Shadow Cascade / Explosive Trap

[granite rover]

really want know what am I missing to kill that fker!! lol

[flint turret]

The you probably should

And you don't have clnwatly enough crit btw

God I hate that guide by now with a scepter

Literally everyone who is trying to make ends up with no crit

Also I don't see armor shred

[granite rover]

I can change it the build if necessary

[flint turret]

And you are missing essential points in cascade

[granite rover]

what other weapon you recommend instead of the scepter?

[flint turret]

You need to max damage with 4 shadows and damage per attack speed

[granite rover]

damn which one am i missing .. man .. I must be following the wrong guide

[granite rover]

oh sorry i do that .. just missing in the guide cause i was playing with my gear

[flint turret]

Scepter is okay if you exactly know what you are doing and why, but you are like 10th+ guy who comes here with shit crit chance because of a scepter

[flint turret]

Can you import the actual one then?

Maybe crit is fine too?

[granite rover]

ok let me do that now

[flint turret]

Honestly you are not missing that much, your gear is probably even better than mine and I can kill Uber in 1-1.5 min

Maybe just a skill issue and a few adjustments needed

[granite rover]

here you go https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AVa9l9JX

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Rogue (29) / Bladedancer (70) / Marksman (9) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,735, Regen: 19.86/s
▸ Mana: 275, Regen: 13.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 34%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 17 Str / 36 Dex / 17 Int / 30 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 98% / 34% / 34% / 67% / 29% / 46% / 104%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 347
▸ Dodge Chance: 19% (623)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 30% (1,451)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 95%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Smoke Bomb / Umbral Blades / Shadow Cascade / Explosive Trap

[granite rover]

yea i feel like i am almost there, just not sure what it is

[flint turret]

Still no damage per as in cascade node

[granite rover]

which node is that?

Careful assault?

[flint turret]

And there are 2 main issues:
You are at like 63% crit
You have almost no increased damage

[flint turret]

Left one

How to fix it easily: get a second tongue it fixes crit
Get 2 idols with damage per shadow for cascade it fixes increased damage
Get mana per dodge passive in falconer it fixes mana

[granite rover]

oh you mean Shadow Florish

[flint turret]

No

The one that gives more damage per attack speed

You have 2/3

[granite rover]

got it.

i will add that back

[kind adder]

The Maxroll guide?

[serene crane]

Classic maxroll moment

[granite rover]

lol any good guide to that i can use aside from maxroll?

[granite rover]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AVa9lVJd

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Rogue (28) / Bladedancer (70) / Marksman (9) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,729, Regen: 19.86/s
▸ Mana: 275, Regen: 13.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 34%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 17 Str / 35 Dex / 17 Int / 30 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 98% / 34% / 34% / 67% / 29% / 46% / 104%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 346
▸ Dodge Chance: 19% (616)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 30% (1,451)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 95%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Smoke Bomb / Umbral Blades / Shadow Cascade / Explosive Trap

[granite rover]

this better? lol

grabb'd a 2nd tongue with high crit chance, but only have 1 idol that increase cascade dmg

will farm more.

[flint turret]

crit on second is not working anyway, just get one with good AS\multi\skills and slam it t7 as

and when you add second idol for cascade damage it should be fine

and you forgot passive in falconer for mana

[flint turret]

yeah

[flint turret]

also i dont know what gear do you swap for uber but i sure hope you are not going there with 29 void res

[granite rover]

i am...

[flint turret]

then you are cooked

[granite rover]

LOL. kk. so for my weapons.

i should keep sceptor main and a 2nd tongue

on off hand

[flint turret]

if you can cap crit sure

but if you could i guess you would already have done that

[granite rover]

yea my luck on on the gear hasn't been that great. let me farm a bit more

[flint turret]

tongue will fix crit you just need at least 1lp

[granite rover]

ok the last link i sent.

i have two tongue. 1 with 125 % crit

[flint turret]

no you need it with attack speed

[granite rover]

and the other is the atk speed with fire damage

[flint turret]

you dont slam crit on it

you get crit from passive per dagger

[granite rover]

oh ok ok

[flint turret]

or idol whoich you might have

with crit per dagger

or you can actually slam 1-2lp rainbow sword and use weapons of choise passive

same with t7 as

[granite rover]

ok ok.

[flint turret]

your majasan idol does almost nothing

[granite rover]

oh i was looking for throw dmg

[flint turret]

you diont need it

you need damage per shadow with casacde

which can also have throwing btw or shadow damage

25% damage per shadow translates to 175% damage inc because you have 7 shadows

[granite rover]

wow thanks for your advice.

[flint turret]

and your throw gives like what, 30?

[granite rover]

damn i can get only up to 65% crit now.

need to find another idol

[flint turret]

the crit you are looking at is not the real crit probably

because you had like 65 almost with a scepter

[granite rover]

you right right

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BM6xyXk5

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Rogue (28) / Bladedancer (70) / Marksman (9) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,729, Regen: 19.86/s
▸ Mana: 275, Regen: 13.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 34%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 17 Str / 35 Dex / 17 Int / 30 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 98% / 34% / 34% / 67% / 29% / 46% / 147%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 346
▸ Dodge Chance: 19% (616)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 30% (1,451)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 95%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Smoke Bomb / Umbral Blades / Shadow Cascade / Explosive Trap

[granite rover]

ii have 71 based on the planner

[flint turret]

it doesnt include 4 flat from cascade tree and 5 flat from relic

[granite rover]

ah ok ok. .

[flint turret]

if you want to see your somewhat actual crit add t7 flat crit to any of your weapons and see the melee crit

wow this dagger is sick

swap daggers also

left has more crit

and its betetr overall

[granite rover]

i will give that a try and try aberoth to see if i am getting more dg

dmg

[flint turret]

getting 2 more idols with damage per shadow would have been big

[granite rover]

you are referring to dmange per active shadow. instead of dmg increased used by shadow skill right?

[flint turret]

yes

ideally idol you want would have both

or throwing suffix instead

[granite rover]

ok i will look for those.

[granite rover]

you are right. i just tried the first phase. i was doing more dmg for sure.

[flint turret]

nice

now remove your weapons of choise passive and get hooked blades 5\5

something liek this

and remove rapid concealment in smoke and get max duration + aoe

[kind adder]

Wait what's wrong with it?

I haven't tried it but I was gathering gear for it

[flint turret]

regardless of reason it results in many people coming here with semi-bricked build after that

having neither crit nor increased damage

[kind adder]

Wack

[flint turret]

even tho the planner in that build doesnt nherently have those issues to nearly the same extent

[kind adder]

I will say a lot of the Maxroll build guides have seemed a bit off this season, like some passive and skill tree points make no sense, and some affix picks on gear doesn't seem optimal

A TON of them have typos or old content in the guide itself, and only the planner has been updated

[flint turret]

this is not the case here probably

people just dont understand it and cut corners where they shouldnt

[kind adder]

Ah yeah. It does explicitly state the gear reqs for that specific version of the build are INSANE

It does result in a massively powerful build tho

[flint turret]

its really hard to crit cap with scepter

and if yo uare running 60% crit you lost more than half of your dps just from that

either you chose to have scepter with 60% crit or white dagger with 100% crit - white dagger wins

[granite rover]

@flint turret https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BgRr837k here is my build now

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.5

Class:

Rogue (28) / Bladedancer (70) / Marksman (9) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,646, Regen: 19.86/s
▸ Mana: 275, Regen: 13.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 34%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 17 Str / 30 Dex / 17 Int / 30 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 98% / 34% / 34% / 52% / 29% / 46% / 147%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 329
▸ Dodge Chance: 21% (718)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 30% (1,451)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 6%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 60%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Smoke Bomb / Umbral Blades / Shadow Cascade / Explosive Trap

[granite rover]

i was able to get lower to 45%

i think i am missing some resist and mabye a better off hand

or idol. and will try again ..

[flint turret]

2 of the idols are terrible yeah

and res is non existent

other than that you are fine

[granite rover]

hahaha

i shoudl swap my amu

[flint turret]

you can get void res from blessing swap btw

[granite rover]

back to the orybs one

that has all resist

[flint turret]

actually not 2, rather all except 2

and throne isnt even corrupted to all res or frenzy

you should be somewhat fine with uber as is if you swap to void res bless. maybe will take like 2-3 min to kill

[granite rover]

kk

[flint turret]

and cap phys res with small idol swap

[serene crane]

You could try adding Volcano affix to the loot filter, its nice little way to get a bit higher elemental crit

[tired hinge]

Is Guile good or bad for shadow rend phys build ?
Which one do you think is best?

[flint turret]

i think xithara is best

[errant pollen]

Trying to build a ballista falconeer setup but not really vibing with the explosive trap deployments. Thinking of using Dark Quiver to buff more but want something for sustain like flurry or puncture to go with it
so Aerial assault, Falconry, Ballista, Dark Quiver, then 5th skill]

[kind adder]

Decoy probably goes in that 5 slot

Or smoke bomb

[errant pollen]

yeah probably, I just wish there was another way to do direct DPS with yourself. Like a skill that made ballista shoot at what the skill you fire is shooting at

like the aerial assault targeting