🔪┃rogue

[buoyant roost]

so.... if we get the heartseeker node for fire and fire dmg

[serene crane]

Should be ezpz to test, buuuut theres like 12% or so chance to repeat the skill... As a seconday skill, why not I guess

Can you convert DA to fire? Might be funny 😄

[buoyant roost]

yes DA has a node for fire

[serene crane]

Time to cook some melee DA Ember terror!st build with Jhelkors I guess

[buoyant roost]

how does infused charges on DA work with sapping

[flint turret]

I hate how good cascade and bow shuri is... I don't even have time/will to go memes like I wanted with bane of winter or ignite kuzon dancing casacde or whatever

[buoyant roost]

I don't think a dancing cascade can ever approach the rend stuff

[flint turret]

thats kinda my point

[marble zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXB-0yHTddQ

[zenith bridge]

same as without sapping, sapping just allows you to stay above 0 mana but you lose all the dmg benefits of course since you only consume a low amount while attacking

[wary cedar]

i think i will reroll

[serene crane]

looks great... sad how gambling for the corruption can be super unlucky

[wary cedar]

i will do this build next ⬆️

scrapping my cold heartseeeker would feel bad so i do a 2nd character for it

[serene crane]

Multi shuri? 😄

[wary cedar]

dont know yet if multi or HS, but bow build with more emphasise on throwing shuri dmg and so on

[serene crane]

If you have some low lvl bow with the corruption, leveling with Flurry and Peak at early lvl its quite alright, I had it on Shadow String so double Shift felt nice

[wary cedar]

idk what i have in my stash lol

[buoyant roost]

erm you can just do throwing dmg on lvl stuff

[wary cedar]

nu uh

[buoyant roost]

on low lvl stuff* i have bleeding, peak, fire bow with physical and kestrel with physical

1 hour all slots + passives

[wary cedar]

NU UH

[serene crane]

Its fine with Flurry, the campaign early on is easy enough, Lagoon melted fast aswell 😄 but lvling with Bladestorm with the explosions, calptrops and triple-throw is actually crazy

[buoyant roost]

wait what. i got omnis from a +6 orobys? I thought you get it only from 10+

[buoyant roost]

why do you even do lagon 🙁

noob

you fniish campaign at the big tree

[serene crane]

wdym +6? Gaze of Orobyss? Got nothing to do with that 😄

Idk I prefer doing the campaign, its pretty fast anyway 😄 started yesterday in the evening and Im already in Majelka

[buoyant roost]

you do the WHOLE thing? act 10 as well?

[serene crane]

Yea its fast 😄

Mom didnt raise a skipper... a dummy maybe, but not a skipper

[plain flume]

Has anyone here played Bina Shadow Cascade?

[wary cedar]

it gives stats, so why not

[buoyant roost]

sure 😄 but I dont feel like spending another 1-2 hours in the campaign for it tbh

[wary cedar]

well you can do it a bit later once you re stronger, will take only 30min or so

[buoyant roost]

admitebly though Act 10 is beautiful

[serene crane]

Not exactly, but people here did, its one of the super popular builds... what do you need?

[plain flume]

I don't know how to conserve my mana.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Andershow1/character/NemSei

[serene crane]

BRUH... yes, but... F that sky chain map, idk why but my void knight was getting stuck on every single chain-land transition part every time 😄 that map and also the map after is so annoying to do in echoes

[serene crane]

Well Ive played it on lowlife so Shift gave me even more mana, together with recalled umbrals I didnt really struggled with mana and on top I even had Coated Blades 🤔

[naive saddle]

Okay real talk, I have two rogues already. What's going to be my next alt.

[wary cedar]

cold acid flask

[buoyant roost]

a rogue

[plain flume]

I had to place 3 mana idols to try and hold on.

[naive saddle]

FFFFF

Wait, what's the 3rd rogue class. I have a falconer and a bladedancer.

What's the bad one called.

[serene crane]

Heartseekerman

[naive saddle]

Yeah let's dust off one of those!

[wary cedar]

you forgot one, not takiing any subclass skills makes you a pure rogue

[naive saddle]

Eww

[serene crane]

You could try body armor, can have prefix for Sync Strike mana efficiency there aswell, t7 up tp 60%, so If you get t5 ward on shadow and base with damage of shadow skills, it should be still good

[naive saddle]

Maybe it's time to do a proper bow build.

Like, with shurikens and shit.

[serene crane]

So, a throw build

[naive saddle]

You can still throw the bow, right?

They have those in australia

[serene crane]

Of course, you have a quiver on your back to store additional bows

[naive saddle]

https://tenor.com/iTk5OZgBftc.gif

Ah, perfect!

And I can pull turrets out my ass and they can do the bow-throwing instead

and I'll ride a dino

to shrow thurikens

[serene crane]

For some high corruption stuff, Jessrabbert has cool build(s) its just more in the zhp area 😄 Ragu posted more budget versions; other plebs like us cooked more meme-y ones 😄

[naive saddle]

I played balista falconer last season, it can't possibly be more zhp than that.

[serene crane]

Its maybe close enough... but Ive nver played anything with balista at all, not a fan

[buoyant roost]

wings of discord dont affect weaver enchancment?

[serene crane]

lightning crit shurikens with heartseeker / ignite shurikens with Ember amulet / bleed Hs with Carrion of Creation / poison Hs with armor shred... playable for sure also I wonder If detonating arrow would be any good for lightning shurikens and Zeurial quiver... or just Multishot stuff aswell

[naive saddle]

Or well, I could play one of the worser classes.

[serene crane]

It should, Wings just say "stats" 🤔 should be easy to test 😄

[serene crane]

Also, Im not sure how important is high tier of Doppel affix on relic, but it should just be more free ward/damage... you also dont have any primordial item, so you could get t8 of something nice... or swap Nomad for Entwinned ring, get The Last Bear instead of Doppelganger body for strength=>armor and endurace while having Doppel and Last Bear sets complete, so twice the bonuses from Entwinned ring (would also need to get Last Bear suffix on gloves, less shadows but some melee phys damage)

[plain flume]

I'll try out the suggestion you gave me. Thank you in advance for your attention.

[naive saddle]

Maybe using sync too much?

[serene crane]

Should just be holding DS => Sync Strike for Flow consumption => Shift for recalls and mana... mana jumping down and up but shouldnt really run out

t8 doppel relic looks pretty goood tho... ezpz shadow stuff

[buoyant roost]

it's very strange....i have 8% throwing on my adorned idol (weaver). prefix is bow attack speed, sufix shred effect. I removed the altar. no idol = 655%. With idol = 674%. That's 19%. If it's 100% should be like 16%, 8+8, but somehow it's 19 lol

[serene crane]

Maybe some rounded up number from who knows what? 😄

[buoyant roost]

now check this out. when I put an altar that has 54% weaver will effect. (i removed all idols now). So now with idol 533%, without idol 515%. that's 18% . WTF is going on

so it's even less with weaver enchanmnet on the idol 🙁

the last epoch tool says 19%. 0 sense

[serene crane]

#🔪┃rogue message Hushed mentioned something about that being bugged

[buoyant roost]

it's bugged for sure

[solar gyro]

You guys like Flow + Rhythm on shuriken build?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o3Zl2E7E

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (64) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 2,184, Regen: 51.46/s
▸ Mana: 275.51, Regen: 13.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 102%, Regen: 19/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 69 Dex / 16 Int / 16 Att / 16 Vit
▸ Resistances: 45% / 67% / 84% / 79% / 84% / 85% / 66%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 29%, Threshold: 437
▸ Dodge Chance: 39% (1376)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 31% (1,566)
▸ Block Chance: 1%, Mitigation: 5% (26)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 108%

Used skills:

Bladestorm / Shurikens / Dancing Strikes / Smoke Bomb / Shadow Cascade

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[sour salmon]

I have finally realized that my build isn't too weak for normal abby, it just keep slingshoting cuz i'm using wifi

slingshoting back to abby's void beam

so I will do what I never expected to do

buy eternet wire

[serene crane]

Yea hopefully it gets fixed soon... big part of 1.4 mechanic and it doenst work

[buoyant roost]

were almost one month into the patch 💀

[wary cedar]

after the patch, is before the patch

maybe the devs corrupt their patches as well

would explain a lot

[serene crane]

nice

[wary cedar]

okay, so thats my final coldseeker build https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/ohthemisery/character/miiisery

i m putting it to rest now like margit

starting new character later today

[harsh elm]

hello someone can help me for my build pls new on this game

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/asahina11/character/apocryphaa

[flint turret]

have you at least done uber with it? considering 24 phys res i doubt but eh?

and no red rings sadly too

[wary cedar]

got to 36% once xd

[wary cedar]

i do havbe some redrings in my stash, i just equiped the rings with more dmg for the end now xd

[flint turret]

you are letting him go like that?

[wary cedar]

i ll try again once my 2nd character can feed my HS with Uber items

[flint turret]

relic and gloves can be decent yeah

[buoyant roost]

what do you want to build

[flint turret]

also you could have a lot more damage just from skills swap

shadow creation on smoke+ dark quiver, shadow consume nodes in hs

[harsh elm]

i saw a build with shadow rend and lots of aoe i found it cool

[buoyant roost]

okay. I see your skills. but your items are bad. get throwing damag eon amulet/rings/relic at least. belt is plus

[harsh elm]

okok i will farm that ty

[wary cedar]

i had some throwing stuff going on in my skills before i ended, didnt mind trying to minmax it when i leave it

[flint turret]

i can recommend starting with melee if you dont have good gear. throwing has much higher gear req

[wary cedar]

was just to show my gear

[harsh elm]

okok i will do that

[flint turret]

lemme find it...

for monos you swap out tabi for skin boots and change to shift with umbral recalls for mana so you could be constantly moving not bounded to smoke

also it doesnt have to be fire, i just liked the aesthetics, it works with doppel helm as phys perfectly fine

[dapper depot]

May I ask you about this? At what state should I focus on this? I JUST started MONOs, not empowered. I got a good set so far, but it's not "shattered" / "corrupted" - But I don't feel I've learned about this part yet, and I think WAffle is in the same boat.

But if it's not a point to focus on now, or until 500 corruption etc, I won't stress it now.

Thanks for your time

[left vapor]

soo... I'm trying to maxroll uber killer variation of the shadow rend build

and I must have missed something huge because I do absolutly no damage

but I can't figure out what 🙁

could you help me with that ?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/eynixl/character/Tyra

.. the planer is not updated

[flint turret]

you dont need any reforged set items or higher than 1lp items to clear uber with rend cascade

[left vapor]

idk how to force the update

🙁

[flint turret]

just use regular set items and focus on getting 1lps

[flint turret]

build planner > import

[left vapor]

? really. Because I can't kill him with it. I'm stuck at 20% when things gets crazy

[sour salmon]

its funny with 2.8 k Hp and about 3.5 K plus ward

[dapper depot]

Awesome! Thank you for your answer

[flint turret]

#🔪┃rogue message i just linked it. thats was like 3rd try, i optimized it a bit later but thats already good enough

it went down to 2 min after some optimizations with 1lps when i dropped defensive affixes for more damage

hes just dead at 20% before he even slams in the last phase half of the time

or dead right after the slam

[buoyant roost]

man Hail of Arrows is so dissapointing 🙁

I don't even know how to skill this bs

[left vapor]

you do less damage than me so I guess i'm just shit at the game

[flint turret]

yeah on that video i overinvested on defences because that was like 3rd try like i said, defences can go way lower and damage way higher which i later adjusted

but it allowed me to tank pretty much anything outside of slam and gigabeam so its not bad either

[loud arrow]

I’m getting to 6k and my damage isn’t that high to delete them that fast.

[flint turret]

maybe some issue with a build then

at 580 they should just melt

most of the time i didnt even knew which harb spawned because it didnt have time to cast the specific boss skill

unless you go there with a mono running setup without tabis or something

[serene crane]

The set is good on its own, ofc with the normal set you wont have such ward generation, but you can craft that whenever you find some good item for it... for the start and early X hundred corruption the normal set is fine

[wary cedar]

Ich sage ein freundliches Hallo in die Runde

[serene crane]

Misery used corruption rune on himself...

[inland yacht]

should i farm out a 3LP jungle queen for this dumb cold flask build

[wary cedar]

Ich mach dich kaputt wenn du weiter so brabbelst 😡

[inland yacht]

i'm just using a scavenger from leveling right now for the potion find since my bird eats all my potions

[dapper depot]

Thank you - I won't focus on this, until I reach about 500 corruption then. Thank you a lot 🙏🏽

[serene crane]

You can still try corrupting extra set pieces you find around, crafting something even with t6 can be a solid upgrade

[serene crane]

I guess Queen with chance to find potions might be better 🤔

[flint turret]

meh... doppel helm and relic is not worth unless its t7 set, and there are plenty of great high lvl unique bodies to choose from

[serene crane]

Depends If you care about other prefix(es) or not I guess 😄 but ye Doppel on its own is already nice even without all the ward on shadow nonsense

[inland yacht]

it didn't occur to me until started actually leveling my rogue this season, but the acid flask node on bladestorm is more radius. it makes some pretty big explosions

[flint turret]

doppel body is the worst because of ward on shadow exactly, thats why i said 1lp bodies

[dapper depot]

Hehe thank you Olvrin - Next step, I'll need to figure out how I corrupt set peices, so far I can only see the nemsis allowing me to put in uniques

[serene crane]

From what Ive tried, having only one ward on shadow was more than fine... but it was on Rend, so... 😄 set/t7 doppel Helmet for umbrals is definitely nice just to keep Dusk stacks for umbrals... SD or Ignite/bleed was the most annoying since it was like 3 prefixes so one of them kinda had to end up just sealed

[serene crane]

Those Omen guys you keep meeting during campaign/echoes drop corruption runes, so just open your Forge, put the set item there and use corruption rune; or The Great Bridge woven echo has option to shatter multiple set pieces into shards

[dapper depot]

Shadow rend or shadow cascadw build, which is your preferred?

[flint turret]

i mean... swapping from set items to reforge items on relic and helm is just getting a bit of numbers advantage, but swapping from set body to unique or reforged with ward on shadow is a game changer. It can be a helm with ward on shadow creation too i guess, but you cant make it from a unique and you would want both t7 on reforged which is rough

[flint turret]

at this point its a same singular build tbh

[serene crane]

Gear is super similar in both... for both If you take Shift and Umbrals for the mana on recall, should be easy enough to manage mana for both of the builds... Rend might be easier, its like two buttons? 😄 extra shadows on body/gloves, attack speed...

[flint turret]

i dont really see a reason to play sync at this point at all

rend is just much better qol

and damage too

[serene crane]

Easier for sure 😄 in mapping you just throw away Tabis and forced stationary and its 1-button-go through entire map

[flint turret]

tabi on maps are terrible bruh

[serene crane]

The sync strike build is pretty much just evolved same build from all the ages ago? 😄

[flint turret]

you always go with movement rend

[serene crane]

It was alright as long as you kill stuff fast enough, at like 700-1000 I rather went with Tabis

[flint turret]

you cant kill anything fast because it takes like 3 seconds for shadow to be able to cascade

while you stay at 1 spot with tabis

terrible horrible

thats probably the only advantage of sync

with rend everything dies behind you

[wooden lava]

So I'm omega dumb and put my 2lp item into strife because I thought the sacced item just ported over all of its stats. Now all the rolls on it are really mid or bad.

Is my only recourse to now do strife over and over until they roll well again? It's not a hard item to get 2lp to drop

It took me far too long to even get those two affixes on it in the first place

[serene crane]

Yea but even at staying at 1 spot, I rarely died to anything in echoes with like 7-12k ward... in Omen's Veil there can be some random oneshot nonsense or Uber stuff 😄

[flint turret]

dunno i was dying all the time with tabis even at 600

[serene crane]

Weird tbh... stuns kinda suck tho 😄 most of my deaths were when I opened Neme egg or something like that and a mob from 205859105 meters away got aggro on me

[wooden lava]

Because now I'm straight up too nervous to corrupt it lest I have to go back and try to get both those affixes on a slam again

[serene crane]

Mmmmm pretty much... another bad 2LP (or just corrupt 1LP with anything, as long as the corruption gives it a second affx, you can use it as 2LP fuel).. in Strife you can reroll as many times as you want

[flint turret]

dunno whats weird, you get ward only after 3 seconds after you start to attack and when you attack with tabis you stay still. Im not runniing monos to stay still every 10 meters for 3 seconds

without tabi you just shift-rend spam and have ward all the time

and move all he time

its not even comparable

[serene crane]

I was just doing little steps, pressed Rend like 2-3 times, with attack speed its not so hard... also ward from recalled Umbrals was like 2-3k

[wooden lava]

Oh, I didn't realize the additional corrupt counted as an other lp. Maybe it won't be as hard as I thought

[serene crane]

Its definitely faster without Tabi

[serene crane]

Yeah, so If you get some bricked uniques from Nemesis, you can corrupt them, which is pretty good use of the bricked stuff

[flint turret]

i mean yeah i did too until i realized what im doing is nonsence and unrequired struggle

tabi is awesome for bosses but boy they do suck at mapping

[serene crane]

Yeah 😄 Im just expecting Rend to get some big nerfs for the next season, so I dont wanna bother with it too much... and some rework in the nodes would be nice

like the node that turns it into traversal, shurikens/umbrals node behind it... and the elemental part feels like barely anything

[flint turret]

i would bet on nerfing 60% to resummon primarily

down to 30 or smth

other than that i dunno what else can be done outside of nerfing cascade and umbrals themselves

[serene crane]

I guess somebody forgot to put a dusk cap at those idols

[flint turret]

not only idols, crit multi in umbrals per blade is also uncapped

we lack only uncapped flat and pen

[serene crane]

Is it not? I dont remember, but yea... I guess it would be alright without all the Rend speed on crack

[serene crane]

I wonder how much of everything you could have Id Rend got converted to Fire and Ember amu would just go brrrrr

[native grail]

Hi everyone. I got a T7 Shadow Affix to drop and I don't want to mess this up....im trying to craft the Cascade BD helm in the photo using the Exalt in the other photo. What's the best order of operations here?

[loud arrow]

oh, that's probably it, I have been using the 'standard' from MR for everything. What now that you mention that echo is more a boss fight than anything.
this is what I have atm https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A83WbNgg (still working on getting some better items on some places)

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 92

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (61) / Marksman (19) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,600, Regen: 18.88/s
▸ Mana: 170.47, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 14%, Regen: 8/s
▸ Attributes: 7 Str / 32 Dex / 7 Int / 7 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 94% / 80% / 81% / 98% / 158% / 92% / 122%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 29%, Threshold: 396
▸ Dodge Chance: 23% (739)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 30% (1,360)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 15%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 70%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Shadow Cascade / Smoke Bomb / Umbral Blades / Explosive Trap

[flint turret]

i dont even know where to start tbh

maybe with non existent crit chance

or non existing inc damage

or 100 flat

[loud arrow]

That bad huh 😂 well thank you for the insight. I’ll look around to see what I can do to improve 👍🏼

[wary cedar]

i hope they nerf primalist next season

[flint turret]

thats why im saying dont go throwing cascade if you dont have gear

you cant just have neither crit nor inc nor flat and expect it to clear

[native grail]

Can someone help with my dilemma I mentioned above? ❤️

[flint turret]

get throw t7 on amulet, get rid of scepter, get a second dagger, get an idol with crit per dagger, get passive in rogue for crit per dagger, get 2 idols with damage for cascade per shadow, get liraka gloves or falcon gloves with max as roll, swap void res bless to crit chance or multi, get armor shred somewhere at least... maybe passive

[native grail]

Is there a site or place maybe even in this server that helps with questions like I have?

[flint turret]

which one

[native grail]

A few messages above where I sent photos of the two helmets

@flint turret

[flint turret]

it doesnt show tiers

make a new one of exalted with tiers

probably its havoc into seal pref if its t2

[serene crane]

Since you got exalted in both prefixes and I guess you would like to keep them both exalted... you can do Havoc to get one of the low tier suffixes to prefix (idk what tiers they are), then Despair glyph seal it away => put Doppel preffix shard in the emptied slot => havoc again to get the exalted tier from suffix back to prefix while Ward on shadow also stays exlated

[flint turret]

pretty much what he said

expect it to fail horribly tho, because vast majority of crafts do

[serene crane]

It might be a solid exalted armor to imprint maybe before you do anything with it?

[native grail]

Sorry guys I'll do a new one showing the Tiers. I could go without the T6 but the T7 feels like a must keep.

[serene crane]

Probably the worse approach is Removal and try to remove the exalted ward on smoke... but it sounds like a waste of double exalted item 😄

[flint turret]

if its t3 or higher yeah its pretty much remove and pray

[native grail]

Trying to grab screenshot but essentially the smoke bomb is T6 (dont care about that) and the good one is T7 (Shadows). Both of the other 2 are T4

[loud arrow]

It does pretty ok on monoliths. Or at least ok for me. Of course it’s not deleting bosses but I was not expecting that.
I’ll check tonight to make some of those changes. Ty again

[serene crane]

In settings If you scroll a bit down, there is option to always show tier affixes... t7 doppel in helmet is great and same for ward... but tbh having those as t5 is also very much fine

[flint turret]

with t4 you can only remove its almost impossible to seal

you either havoc and remove or just straight up remove

[native grail]

It's pretty insane honestly

[flint turret]

it will brick 90%

[native grail]

What is the safest option I have?

[flint turret]

you dont

if you only care about that t7 its straight up remove

[wary cedar]

@buoyant roost is this enough for the leveling bleed build you mentioned?

[flint turret]

if you wanna try to keep t7 and t6 its havoc into remove

[serene crane]

Corrupt it

[native grail]

Alternatively I have this helm...

[wary cedar]

HUGE

[serene crane]

Osiris world record kill soon

[wary cedar]

corrupting at lv 1 xd

[native grail]

@flint turret So I only care about the T7. If I remove, what am I hoping happens?

[flint turret]

depending on what are you trying to do

[native grail]

@flint turret My goal is to recreate the Maxroll helmet i sent in the original photo

As best i can

[flint turret]

witho those 2 helmets you simply cant unless you win a lottery chances

[fresh forge]

Guys can I have some advice on my build? I keep facing mana issue with shadow rend/cascade and umbral blades and my damage isnt as good as I want it to be.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oP6Y62Yl

Currently still gearing but i just keep getting mana problems

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (68) / Marksman (25)

General:

▸ Health: 1,498, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 222.51, Regen: 9.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 26%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 26 Dex / 13 Int / 13 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 171% / 81% / 83% / 77% / 77% / 79% / 56%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 300
▸ Dodge Chance: 81% (9836)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 44% (2,585)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 410%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 132%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb / Shift

[flint turret]

you hope to remove the t6, then add set and make it t5

[serene crane]

If you dont have anything important in weaver imprint slots, I would probably throw this there, might be worth it... otherwise either Remova and pray it removes t6 smoke bomb, then its easy... or else Havoc to get t4 from suffixes into Smoke bomb => Removal and pray it hits Smoke since its t4, sealing sucks hard => put Doppel => Havoc t6 back while keeping t7 in preffix too

[flint turret]

then chaos suffixes if you feel like it

or you probably will remove one of them too in the process

[native grail]

Im sorry guys idk what a weaver imprint slot is

[serene crane]

With my luck I'd hit removal on t7, or every craft would eat 23FP

[flint turret]

yep its pretty much how it goes

[flint turret]

then you probably shouldnt even worry about making that helmet

just use set

[native grail]

What is it?

Ive made all the other pieces just fine

This is the last piece i need

[flint turret]

and use unique body with 1lp slammed with ward on shadow

[native grail]

I just dont know the terminology you are using is all

[flint turret]

untill you farm tons of exalted helmets and mats

[native grail]

I have 100 hours played this season 3 lvl 98 characters. I just dont know what the terminology you are using is

[serene crane]

Press "Y" or whatever you use to open Factions, top right corner click the green icon for Weaver faction, there is "tree" button... then there are slots where you can put item/weapon/armor/jewelry (it only copies it into the slot, it wont take it from you) and based on the imprint slot, you have chances to find a similar item to that one

[flint turret]

3x98 without using imprints is impressive ngl

[native grail]

Dude ive used imprints i just didnt know the terminology ffs

Good lord. Yes, I know what you are talking about @serene crane Thank you for the help

[flint turret]

ah okay sorry xd

[serene crane]

All good, its a learning day

[flint turret]

if you have ward on shadow on a body already yu dont even need that helm tbh

[wary cedar]

my Lv 1 Boots corrupted into Lv 76 Item 😔

[flint turret]

you forgot to get it

[native grail]

I do i actually have a T6 version on my body piece

[fresh forge]

Holy wtf I missed that?

[wary cedar]

cant be real

[native grail]

I thew it in the imprint slot...but I don't need to keep it on my person after I do that, right? I can still give it a shot and I don't lose the imprint, yeah?

[fresh forge]

im legitmately trolling wtf

[wary cedar]

wtf

[serene crane]

You could seal Abandonded t1-t2 on ring and use mana regen there; same on belt where t1 is super fine... ofc it would require to get a new items for those... "Stamina of the Rover" in Falconer ís quite nice while mapping, but thats removing points from Marksman

[flint turret]

also if its not a bosing setup id recommend getting rid of tabis

and leave rend a movement skill with skin boots or razors or whatever

[serene crane]

Yea you only put it there, then you can do whatever you want with the original item, the imprinted only exists in the imprint slot... cant dupe items with it and once you replace the item in imprint slot, then the previous one gets of course deleted 😄

[fresh forge]

Was using that ring because of the crit chance cause don't you need umbral blades to crit to trigger the damage? since i have lowered damage from non crits

[fresh forge]

Doesn't tabis spawn more shadows for the dps though? unless you dont need so much dps for clearing

[loud arrow]

Would you or anyone have linked a builder or something that has kinda that so I can check? Been following the Maxroll one to this point

[flint turret]

yes and yes, its awesome for bosses

[fresh forge]

I see... ill give it a try then

thanks for the advice guys!

[loud arrow]

Also nothing better to keep you humble than to post the build you are “kinda proud” and end feeling like you have no idea what you doing 😂

[serene crane]

I mean, you can always find a ring with t7 throw; get t1-2 Abandonded there and seal it, then add mana regen and use Envy glyphs on the remaining affixes to change base from whatever ring it is into this ring base with %crit chance as implicit

[flint turret]

maxroll shouldnt have those issues like you do, i doubt you copied it well at this point. you just need better gear

what i wrote seems like the easiest fixes wothout changing a build to something else

while you farm your endgame gear

[serene crane]

also you have 150% throw crit chance already... even without that ring base, you have 120%, you'll pretty much have that like 99.9% time with 8 Atropos stacks

[fresh forge]

Ohh cause I was following Mishmishka's umbral rend for my build then i saw they were using resistance rings, but i thought i needed more elemental resis

ill go look for more rings then

[serene crane]

Copper ring for crit, Silver for speed (also a bit of damage), Sapphire for mana+regen, some reistance rings... its kinda what you happen to get 😄 crit should already be good

[flint turret]

but you said its rend\cascade and not rend umbral recall

[fresh forge]

How does cooldown affect my umbral throwing speed though compared to melee attack speed

[fresh forge]

I mean rend cascade and umbral are all in, is there a diff? plus i did say umbral too

[flint turret]

yeah there is a diff

[serene crane]

It shouldnt, base is already 0s, its just attack (throw) speed 🤔

[flint turret]

throwing rend cascade most of the time have umbrals in them but they dont rely on umbral damage

and rend umbral is all about recall damage of umbrals

[fresh forge]

huh then why is umbral even a thing in mish's build then? there isnt a video on the explanation so im confused on it

From what I know to now umbral has their own stacks of dps which i think goes tgt with cascade's umbrals unless they share diff multipliers as different skills so i though if umbral goes up individually the damage of cascade's umbrals also will scale

[flint turret]

Mishas build is aboit stacking umbral damage as high as possible to combo it with flow to manually recall, it uses idols that give damage only to umbrals

while rend throwing cascade uses cascade as main source of damage with idols giving damage only to cascade and it has umbrals as a secondary damage and mana generator on shift recall

while they scale both from throwing, the idol setup and gameplay is different

[fresh forge]

So basically 1 shot burst vs Constant Sustain

[flint turret]

pretty mych

[serene crane]

From Misha about the Rend Umbral manual recall
#🔪┃rogue message

[fresh forge]

thanks guy i finally understood this

[loud arrow]

Aside from lp2 landing on the wrong affix and some items that I’m using while I farm better ones (Omni and etc) I feel like it’s pretty close to their build (not the boss killing one, the standard one) https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/shadow-rend-bladedancer-guide#build-scaling-header

[fresh forge]

@flint turret For Rend throwing Cascade is LizardIRL build a good build to follow?

[kind adder]

Nice they finally fixed the 2x1 and 1x2 weaver affixes being absolute shite

[outer comet]

They also resolved the Dancing Strikes stuck issue. Nice.

[serene crane]

Damn

[serene crane]

No fix for weaver altars tho

[fast ferry]

which bow has the best physical damage implicits?

[serene crane]

Longbow has +60 flat bow damage

[wary cedar]

uwu?

[serene crane]

Obsidian has like 45, but also crit chance and %phys damage, some others crit multi

[fast ferry]

bet, ty

[flint turret]

Fixed several affixes exclusive to Humble Weaver and Stout Weaver Idols having too low values.
This gotta be a joke. Most of people already dropped a season and the rest didn't even pick them up because everyone was sure that there is no way it's unintended at this point

You can't make this up

A month to fix couple of affix ranges ffs

[serene crane]

Yeah, not great... but at least it happened, I guess

[wooden lava]

For anyone playing actual Marksman, if you're having trouble with bosses, I found a slight solution

Take the Cloaked Incursion node in Smoke Bomb. Full uptime on Smoke Bomb meaning permanent silver shrouds unless you get hit several times in one second

kind of a non-bo with Shift, but I find shift useful for farming and smoke bomb useful for brain-off bossing

Could even just outright get rid of Shift at that point, but as far as my build goes, I don't really have anything else to use in that slot

[serene crane]

Now check out the weaver enchant

[wooden lava]

Besides maybe Shurikens with Blade Armor and getting stupid lucky with shuriken corruptions

[wooden lava]

I'm trying to get this on every idol possible tbh

Silver Shroud is just so much more useful than any other defensive layer

[serene crane]

eh its kinda meh since it got changed to direct use

[wooden lava]

Not wrong at all. Its just in the situation where you are a Marksman build already using Dark Quiver and Decoy and you opt out of Shift for just using Smoke Bomb as your traversal skill, there really isn't any other option in that last slot

At least for my MM build. Decoy, Smoke Bomb, Multishot and Dark Quiver are already specialized. So if I were to take out Shift and just use Smoke bomb as my way of getting around quicker, there isn't any other option for either specs that could be another passive source of damage/defense or something else to incorporate into the build

[flint turret]

Dunno, I haven't read it. Should be fine most likely

bro i hate it that i need to farm idols from scratch just because i didnt expect them to change them mid season

[wary cedar]

did they only change future drops?

[flint turret]

i have no idea but i wasnt picking them up due to filter settings

why would i pick up stout idol with weaver affix if regular affix gives more

[serene crane]

Dont items usually change across entire game with changes like this? I think they do 🤔

[flint turret]

not anymore i guess

it doesnt matter if you dont stockpile them kekw

i simply dont have them because i filtered them out

[serene crane]

It shouldnt take too long to drop some 😄 at least for those who still play... here on legacy I dont really worry, got too many garbo idols Im way too lazy to even clear at this point

[flint turret]

i would argue with that

because this basically changed not only people who already have set up their corrupted idolsto make them farm them again but also totally changed the mg value of idols

im glad they returned the old values overall but the timing is pretty bad

might as well do it next season if they already let it slide for a month

instead of farming omen idols i have to farm weaver idols smh

[serene crane]

True, a bit weird then... I would rather see bugs being fixed faster

[wary cedar]

they have to fix only that many bugs, as many bugs get implemented in the next season

so everything stays balanced

[serene crane]

Corrupt the bugs

game gets confused

LE2 gets released

???

-23 FP

[flint turret]

i mean it kinda made sense they nerfed the 1x2 and 2x1 weaver res affixes and stuff because they are shared with minion, so i would dare to say they most of us were expecting them to later nerf 1x1 too which looked like they forgot

i couldnt be accidental the changes were too deliberate

[loud arrow]

These changes apply only to new idols I suppose

[flint turret]

no

i checked stash

old ones changed as well

yeah okay throwing cascade is miles better than melee in omen veils

[serene crane]

So lightning LM is a bit better now again

[flint turret]

and lags way less

they hit kinda hard with the fire pool at 1k corr tho

13k damage from just touching it

[serene crane]

Damn 😄

[flint turret]

hmmm free crit cap and 2 smokes?

[loud arrow]

If someone have a planner with an example of shadow rend bladedanxer plz @ me so I can check when I get home tonight. Plz and thank you

[flint turret]

you have to be more specific there are to many of them

[loud arrow]

Well ideally I want to try uber aberroth to finish my season before Diablo extension next week so I guess boss killing

[serene crane]

#🔪┃rogue message

[flint turret]

any of them is capable for uber on a budget

[serene crane]

This boosted by Abandoned set is... interesting

[thorny hull]

guys, someone know how fix gamebad issue with dancing strike? it cant change direction while iam use this skill, with mouse all works good

[desert bridge]

uhhh, maybe a frostbite Mage build with that? lol

[serene crane]

There is frost blade detonation Bladestorm build from Max Pita which looks super interesting and is using this sword 😄 another build with Clotho's needle that caps Parry chance... Im lvling... kinda both right now, trying to somehow combine all this weird stuff together, with idols enchanted by chance to not consume silver dusk 😄

[flint turret]

kinda big?

[serene crane]

Big health

[flint turret]

can fit 3 huge and 3 omens

only res is an issue

i wish i could just imprint kekw

[serene crane]

Surely it cant be that hard to make a new imprit slot that would work for corrupted affixes, which would grant a better chance to get imprinted corr. affixes on the same/similar gear you've imprinted right... game please...

[desert bridge]

Yeah that would be awesome

Make it (have a chance to) trigger when killing omens

[golden veldt]

Does this idol affect bow damage only or all damage done?
Asking because the name and prefix refer to different damage

[serene crane]

Any damage from whatever, just need to be using bow

[golden veldt]

Cool thanks, wasnt sure due to the name of the idol

Well idol prefix*

[native grail]

Yo - The Affix "Increased damage with shadow cascade per active shadow" is a shard, right?

Sent it and got the helm down to just the T7 affix I want and only lost 1 FP....but now I can't find the shard for the shadow cascade damage...

[flint turret]

the luck is unreal

[native grail]

@flint turret Yeah im pretty jazzed lol except of course now I think I don't have the shards to craft and seal the cascade damage affix...

[serene crane]

well, it exists 😄 just add a rule to lootfilter to show and recolor any item with that affix and use Removal rune to get the maximum shards from it

[native grail]

Bro 800 OF THEM?! lol

[serene crane]

also If you put the prefix there, you still need to use the Doppelganger prefix shard first... which I guess you wanted it for first, no? 😄

[serene crane]

Its not hard to get since its helm+body and also its legacy while playing for years, so dont worry about it 😄

[flint turret]

hmmmmmmmm

[serene crane]

@buoyant roost best map in the last act... pretty af + the giant t-rex in the river looks super cool 😄

[serene crane]

Chakram Ms time

[native grail]

Wouldn't I put the cascade affix 1st, seal, then add the doppelganger shard there in its place?

[serene crane]

Yea, true

[native grail]

Cool! Never thought i'd say this, but looks like I actually have to farm shards of all things

[serene crane]

t1 is safe, t2 is fairly doable but can fail into t3/t4... t3 is greedy 😄

[flint turret]

i doubt its worth sealing at all

he has 3 empty slots to fill with t5

thats 15 crafts already

[native grail]

I'd rather have lower T Health/Armor and have that affix sealed, no?

[flint turret]

up to you

just remember to fill all 4 first

[serene crane]

sealing t1 doppel, adding t1 cascade per shadow; add 2x t1 of whatever suffix you want, then upgrade the doppel... should be doable with ease 😄

[flint turret]

because if you dont your seal can fail even at t1

[native grail]

Wait really?

Interesting

[native grail]

Very good to know!

[flint turret]

only if you have 4 its guaranteed

(((

[serene crane]

Is it the fat guy or the tiny occultist one?

[flint turret]

dunno

the average drops of phys shuri chaser

[wary cedar]

would this make sense? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A6PVMGKX

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (15) / Marksman (52) / Falconer (26)

General:

▸ Health: 1,327, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 269.8, Regen: 9.92/s
▸ Ward Retention: 32%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 52 Dex / 16 Int / 16 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 11% / 11% / 35% / 11% / 11% / 33% / 62%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 265
▸ Dodge Chance: 42% (1507)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 15% (487)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 29%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 60%

Used skills:

Multishot / Umbral Blades / Shift / Smoke Bomb / Shurikens

[flint turret]

thats third already with light or cold damage fml

[serene crane]

bleed, lightning, cold... classic, might play it with Hydra bow

[flint turret]

outside of being zhp and having no crit?

[wary cedar]

well for crit you can just be lucky no?

[flint turret]

makes sense

and it solves zhp too, just dont get hit

[wary cedar]

i mean i have dodge

[serene crane]

I'd rather get Copper ring base at least, Grand idol with crit chance suffix

[wary cedar]

i might just play it with peak + wings of discord

and take the generic red rings then

[flint turret]

now using xithara is a waste btw

[ebon jungle]

Is it better for me to hail mary the seal on the t3?

[wary cedar]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYEOWVe2

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (15) / Marksman (52) / Falconer (26)

General:

▸ Health: 1,369, Regen: 27.2/s
▸ Mana: 296.32, Regen: 12.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 58%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 29 Str / 67 Dex / 29 Int / 29 Att / 29 Vit
▸ Resistances: 36% / 36% / 36% / 36% / 36% / 65% / 70%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 274
▸ Dodge Chance: 59% (2536)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 17% (588)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 29%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 60%

Used skills:

Multishot / Umbral Blades / Shift / Smoke Bomb / Shurikens

[wary cedar]

this then

[ebon jungle]

or chaos it instead and hope i get heartseeker lol

[charred falcon]

What is the best build for a levelling rogue first time playing

[serene crane]

Im lvling with this, with 2H sword and the explosions blast hard... you just need throw damage on gear/passives and ideally rings to make throw attacks cheaper for mana, so you can spam it more

the numbers are how I went with points

[wary cedar]

glad you clarified, was about to call that number

[serene crane]

you can also go with Puncture, shadow daggers are ezpz for clearing campaign... get some attack speed on gear and in the passives and you're good to go 😄

[ebon jungle]

Double T6, T7 😂

[drowsy kayak]

hi i did a Ballista Falconer build its all good with the damge but i got 1 shot , is there any thing i can do to fix this

[wary cedar]

more dmg

[serene crane]

"just aproach her, the worst she can do is say 'no' "

[drowsy kayak]

what i need not damge

i need survaival

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o3Zl2gRV

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 91

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Marksman (75)

General:

▸ Health: 2,035, Regen: 31.3/s
▸ Mana: 131, Regen: 9.92/s
▸ Ward Retention: 31%, Regen: 37/s
▸ Attributes: 5 Str / 27 Dex / 4 Int / 1 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 162% / 38% / 75% / 87% / 36% / 8% / 34%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 41%, Threshold: 407
▸ Dodge Chance: 8% (216)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 18% (545)

Used skills:

Cinder Strike / Heartseeker / Hail of Arrows / Smoke Bomb / Decoy

[wary cedar]

to my knowledge your build is a zhp build, so idk in how far it can go tanky

[serene crane]

resists, dodge, endurance, some glancing blow chance?

[buoyant roost]

suggestions 🤔

(ignore the slam on maehlin) old build 😄

[charred falcon]

Can u get power levelled in last epoch ?

[buoyant roost]

and wilfire slam as well XD

[drowsy kayak]

im following the same build but still cant avoid any hit

[naive saddle]

Servers lagging for anyone else?

[ebon jungle]

Im sure youll be ok after all that 😂

[serene crane]

Yea, get Puncture since you already went for the Puncture Hs node

[wary cedar]

the highest build i found using the exact same skills in this build etc has legit no survivabilty, thats why i said you need more dmg x)

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/KARTAL/character/KARTAL0001

[buoyant roost]

im thinking of removing it tbh 😄

not sure if I will benefit much

[drowsy kayak]

my dmg is op but im still looking a survive

[flint turret]

why not bo then

[naive saddle]

Nah, if you need to survive then your dmg isn't good enough.

You're dead if an enemy makes it onto your screen. So you gotta clear them off while repositioning

[serene crane]

I'd ditch Decoy and picked Puncture anyway; get the rapid speed first, Fury stacks, then Frenzy and the Toxins... just fire Puncture when you get the rapid stacks; then blast Hs/HoA

[serene crane]

For leveling sure, but I doubt a new player will get one soon

[drowsy kayak]

hhhhm

[flint turret]

ah, leveling... nwm

[serene crane]

and for my build its not really that good other than more damage to bosses.... buuuut one guy a while ago posted a build with block+Bo, for shuriken shield... it looked pretty interesting 😄

[buoyant roost]

I will try. One thing I dont like it is becuase it has no impact when killing bosses, but I guess for clear it will be better. Decoy is huge mana hog anyway

[drowsy kayak]

is there any speed farming u guys recomnd

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane what do you think on amulet slam? elemental damage over time?

[wary cedar]

your build is S Tier in Speed Farming

so idk what else you re looking for

[serene crane]

Max 6 stacks, each gives you 60% bleed=>ignite chance, thats 360% chance for like 3 seconds when you spam Hs

[kind adder]

What the best way to farm the champion that gives +1 shadows affix

Mirage champion

[serene crane]

Probably yea 🤔 there is ignite chance on amulet, but I dont think any more is even needed with this, especially with Ember amu 😄 fire pen also not really needed with helm+body+boots+idols... either %ele DoT, or some health/defenses

[serene crane]

Idk which one is the best, but there are some options:
#🔪┃rogue message

Pillar of Skulls might be the best? 🤔 either way you need to get lucky and have the Mirage champ to spawn no matter where 😄 Bloodline Glade drops them often from the Rift Beasts, but as t8 Primo

[kind adder]

Yeh primo no good sadly

I'll try pillar for a while see what I can get

[drowsy kayak]

thx u all

[serene crane]

Prison Complex should be good for favor, but not really a guaranteed to have champ spawned with Exiled Mages... honestly I was just running maps with twinned champs and better spawns

[wary cedar]

did i missed something?

what has rune complex to do with favor? xd

[serene crane]

All the mages and champs should give a lot of favor 😄

[wary cedar]

i hate this echo tho

[flint turret]

It's like 5k favor per clear even without champions on mages

And you don't finish it, just tp out and re-enter

[wary cedar]

ok not worth it imo

i rather grind normal echos and stuff

more fun

[flint turret]

Omen veils also give ton of favor

Like 4k per clear

And you also get tons of stuff

[wary cedar]

how much is a normal echo?

[flint turret]

Like 1k?

Prison is best for favor afaik but overall combined with drops I'd say omen veils

Prison gives almost no loot

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane good enough I guess

[buoyant roost]

time well saved

[wary cedar]

its crazy that the display of them can't be disabled

[buoyant roost]

there's a - there 😄

removed just for your convenience

[wary cedar]

but then i cant see the echo objective

[serene crane]

Looks good? 😄

[buoyant roost]

I mean.... good enough for abberoth I guess. but theres no chance to do veil's or uber 😄

[serene crane]

Naaaa gotta get better gear first 😄

[buoyant roost]

O

I'd like to get this T7

good thing is... I can keep corrupting gathering fury's 😄 now at least I hope for 2 affixes

[serene crane]

Honestly, getting shuriken one would be absolutely the best... 😄

[buoyant roost]

you mean even for this build?

more stacks?

[serene crane]

this one 😄

and idk, my gear was also pretty potato, didnt bother upgrading it almost at all 😄

[buoyant roost]

that is really an insane amount of ignites

whats your ignite chance 😄

[serene crane]

Shuriken shield stacks like crazy... 😄

[serene crane]

like 900% combined bow+throw chance.... 3LP peak, 3LP Kelthan, 3LP Sunweath, 1LP Ashes, 3LP Maehlin... all non-slammed 😄 Ember amu is just from Nemesis
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Olvrin/character/Shuriken_Giga-spam

Its just not really tanky

[buoyant roost]

yeah. i mean... 😄 it's not like EHG is going to make dot builds tanky. they're too op /s

but if you have that much dmg

you can just put hhp everywhere 😄

[serene crane]

Wings of Discord definitely helps 😄 half of my resists are also bad... the base %dodge is super bad 😄

[buoyant roost]

I dont think youre still going to be able to do veils though :D. unless some build has either liek 5 hp with 2k endurance threshold or like mega ward youre not surviving it

[serene crane]

I think you could once the survivability is fixed... spec out of Shuri shield into regular line+piercing, maybe riochet, idk.... the ignite prolif from Ember amu helps quite nicely with aoe with Puncture procs here and there 😄

[buoyant roost]

Bows waiting to be slammed 😄

have similar amount in the 2nd tab as well

[buoyant roost]

I will try this at lowest possible corruption 😄

[serene crane]

Kill one of the bosses at the last 3 timelines

[wary cedar]

Danke dir

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane
Why would you not pick this

[serene crane]

No points, I need +4 on body

[buoyant roost]

well it might be a better choice then recurve. not sure

i went for +4

[serene crane]

Idk, more recurve is more crits and thats more shurikens

maybe t7 ignite pen, t5 +2 for Hs would be ideal

and just slam recurve+ignite pen on helmet

[buoyant roost]

yeah. you could swap around.

I have isues using cinder strike. I'd like that oil coating, but ... its the time you lose throwing Hs

[serene crane]

lol I actually have this.... 2x t7 + t6 😄 but I dont really need extra points for Shurikens

[buoyant roost]

redemption 😄

This is also good for additional ignites. But I struggle with mana

[serene crane]

Maaaaybe... but I dont care about it right now 😄

[serene crane]

If you have Heatdrain and some mana regen from MM passives, is it not enough? 😄

[serene crane]

I wonder If I maybe should go lowlife with the 2H Bladestorm... but it sounds a bit annoying putting together 😄

[topaz forge]

slam a max roll t6 %health roll on astral chest or wait for a t7?

[buoyant roost]

bladestorm? 2h? what am I missing :d

[buoyant roost]

t7 health should not be that hard to get?

[serene crane]

I'd wait unless you super much need more ward 😄

[topaz forge]

not sure. haven't seen on yet that I'm aware of.

[topaz forge]

I think I'm chillin rn alr thx

[buoyant roost]

are you doing CoF?

[topaz forge]

ye

[buoyant roost]

grab a few exalted body armor prophecies 🙂

[serene crane]

It has some nice bonuses from the nodes, detonation does ton of damage so far and boosting Weaver Orb/Needle with Abandonded set 😄

[topaz forge]

thanks I will. First imma try and drop my last unique I need. The razorfall boots

[buoyant roost]

yeah but how much better can it be from dual wield. you will need crit %

tongue is so good in dual

[serene crane]

Tongue is for the weak

smol dagger, size matters

[wary cedar]

👁️ 👅 👁️

[buoyant roost]

also for the bladestorm isn't only physical that will boost its damage, or what am I missing

[buoyant roost]

ugly too. pierces hand

[serene crane]

Yea its physical, idk why but it should also convert to cold with the Bs conversion... but it doesnt 😄 so its phys and throw

[buoyant roost]

so basically you will get only 50% on top of like 200%ish for 2hander increased

with dual wield you get 400%

+(307% to 384%) T7

[serene crane]

Looks like nonsense, what are those numbers

[buoyant roost]

from tunkpab

+(614% to 768%) T8 now this would be a thing 😄

[tired hinge]

Which is better for phys shadow rend?

[native grail]

@serene crane @flint turret Wanted to share with you the final result after all the chatter!

Honestly for how many steps that took im pretty happy with it lol

I then corrupted two eye of reens and landed both with T7 affixes lol. My luck is great today. Which one would y'all go for on the Shadow Cascade build?

[ebon jungle]

POTENTIAL UPGRADE

i lose 400 hp

[unique umbra]

Wait! you can get the mirage affix as a corrupt??

[nimble lagoon]

At what point should I swap to shadow rend as my spammable ability on bladedancer?

[native grail]

Anyone have any recommended key bindings for shadow cascade?

[cobalt mantle]

Yeah, you can get personal and experimental affixes as corrupts

[ebon jungle]

2 t7, 1 t6

[wooden lava]

65 forging potential, sheesh. What do you even do with this, slam redemptions and pray?

[ebon jungle]

drop it on the ground and move on

its more of a curse than it is good unless u get stats

i got 2/3 stats wanted except heartseeker level

[wooden lava]

F

[ebon jungle]

ouch

[echo nebula]

does anyone know if shadow dagger benefits from deadly crit?

[loud arrow]

is there a good strategy to farm Atropos sword, aside from repeating lost wood folly, imprinting... And maybe cenotaph?

[kind adder]

Imprinting does not work as it only drops from Atropos

You'll never get a random drop that's a Scissor

Folly is pretty much the best way

[plain flume]

No atk speed?

[native grail]

Maxroll planner said melee physical. Once I land a 2LP Reen I'll throw some attack speed in there.

[serene crane]

Nice nice !

[serene crane]

Yea they do

[wooden lava]

When does that weaver idol update drop? I'm looking to start getting some good pen idols and they're all still dropping at 1-2% instead of 3-4

[serene crane]

Your game should be 1.4.5, but the idols are those 1x2 / 2x1 (Stout / Humble)... not the 1x1 weaver idols with damage %pen, those will be 1-2%

[tired hinge]

Hey, using shadow rend and specced for umbral blades. It does not seem like the knives are recalled by the shadows. But I see almost everyone of the top plays putting points on the recall skills, why is that ?

[serene crane]

I was lvling with it right away.... early on its a bit rough because of the mana, but once you get some mana regen on gear => Shift + Umbral recalls => Smoke bomb for reduced Rend cost, its alright... Shadow cascade for mana gain and +1/+2 shadows from body/gloves its fine

[serene crane]

Depends If you recall the blades yourself for the Flow combo / recall them by Shift / go with the explosive node so you just leave them on the ground to explode

[wary cedar]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ozwXe4PE is this a thing? (the body armor)

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (15) / Marksman (52) / Falconer (26)

General:

▸ Health: 1,424, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 262.99, Regen: 20.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 28%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 26 Str / 52 Dex / 14 Int / 22 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 25% / 25% / 257% / 25% / 25% / 39% / 44%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 285
▸ Dodge Chance: 35% (1205)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 21% (801)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 29%

Used skills:

Multishot / Umbral Blades / Shift / Smoke Bomb / Shurikens

[wooden lava]

How important is a single extra point in a skill? I've been using Thornslinger for multishot but Jungle Queen's chaps are looking pretty sweet with 10 free dex, 50% increased phys damage and crazy dodge chance on potion use. Plus, it is WAY more likely to be lp3 or even 4

[serene crane]

I mean... nice mana regen, but everything else just kills you? 😄 I'd rather get mana regen either on ring+Sapphire base/relic/belt with some other body armor

[wary cedar]

i kill them first if i have mana

[serene crane]

It shouldnt struggle that much with mana tho? 😄

[wary cedar]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/ohthemisery/character/Taube

thats my character i started yesterday

mana is crazy

like

i have no mana

i mean i do have some missing -mana nodes

but idk if they are enough once i get them

[marble zealot]

do this

i never go oom

[serene crane]

16 mana regen already looks nice, Stamina of the Rover from Falconer should be decent too 🤔

[wary cedar]

i m looking at your build for refrence xd

but i highly dislike potion sucking

i only want to press multishot and dont care about anything else

or maybe i jsut macro potion use on shift xd

[marble zealot]

yes

[wary cedar]

do you know if that can be canceled by attacking?

when i used shift into smoke bomb with macro, i could cancel the smoke bomb if i attacked to early

[marble zealot]

hasnt happened to me atleast

[wary cedar]

but even with macro i would need to manage picking up potions 😭

[serene crane]

For boss you have like 16+ and from mobs they should drop quite often 😄

Lagoon for 60-90 more mana looks like a no-brainer I guess... stun chance might be nice too since your resists are good 😄

[wary cedar]

i really would love managing mana without poitions or mountin boots or whatever

so far this armour seems best

[serene crane]

nvm 500% stun chance from Ms node, huge

[wary cedar]

that might even stop your mom

sry

[serene crane]

"yo momma so fat when she crafts in LE the first craft eats all FP"

Idk, that armor... trading Discord for it doesnt really look any better than what you already have 😄 trading a lot of defenses everywhere to go from 16 => 20 mana

[wary cedar]

i might just take acid flask on shift btw

just to be funky

[serene crane]

Maybe like this If anything? 3LP is easy enough to get

[wary cedar]

OMGWAIT

if i take the armor from @marble zealot

i get potion use on acid flask

and i throw acid flask on shift

does this work?

and since i skill into acid flask the armour would make more sense

[wooden lava]

I actually can't believe I asked about jungle chaps right after you posted a multishot build using jungle chaps

[wary cedar]

everyone uses that brotha

[wooden lava]

That's the weirdest coincidence. Also points me more to Thornslinger being dog water

[serene crane]

yea Queen overall is nicer... If you would be some DoT build, Thornsinger is nice, attack speed isnt THAT huge there anyway

[wooden lava]

All builds online say to use Thornslinger but it's felt like the weakest part of the build

Now I have to really dig into every part of this build to see what isn't working as well as other parts

[wary cedar]

okay nvm, the armor works only on direct use, maybe i should read

but reading is for the weak

[wooden lava]

I'm not even doing a throwing variant of multishot, just the standard shotgun version

So Thornslinger makes even less sense

[wary cedar]

the game would be so much more fun if we had less "on direct use"

[tired hinge]

Thanks, but is my observation correct that the shadows never recalls them, only throws them ?

[serene crane]

Yeah

[low grail]

I am doing the umbral b lade one shot build, but i am not understanding why i CANT get uber to under 50% hp. I can link my build https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/senyah/character/Daggerdelphia
I am wracking my brain trying to understand what I am missing

[wary cedar]

ok

[serene crane]

Atrpos sword, but thats a bit of grind and pure luck to get a good one; 64 throw damage; all affixes and corrupted affix gets 50% bonus from Abandonded set
You could try to look for new Mirage gloves with t7 throw damage, t5 melee speed, (could do Last Bear suffix for extra melee phys damage and bit of endurance from the set)
1 point from Dawnfall to Backstab in Umbrals
move points in Rogue from Evasion and 1 from DodgeNparry to Agility, thats some damage loss too

could also get a belt with sealed Jormun and t7 hrow with t5 %phys dmg

Pyramid Altar with t7 %prefix bonus

[low grail]

my problem is i'm seeing people do it with worse gear than me lol

[wary cedar]

skill issue maybe

[serene crane]

phys res shred blessing from Heorot instead of the phys resist one, you are super overcap there anyway 😄

[low grail]

thats a good call actually

[serene crane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf8aEk0XRjE

Gotta make sure to Shift=>recall to consume Flow too I guess

[low grail]

oh i think i am forgetting to shift

[wary cedar]

i said it first

[serene crane]

There is a rotation in description or here in the channel from Misha, she also lurks around, definitely knows stuff better about the build 😄

[low grail]

i got it thanks dude im really dumb. hes one shotted lmao

twas the shift

[serene crane]

Its easy to mess up the combo tbh

[low grail]

i wasn't noticing the shift but that made way more sense

[serene crane]

Spam some Lostwood Follys woven echos and try to get the sword, the speed gets crazy with t7 and posibly even t7 speed corruption

[buoyant roost]

t3 🙁

[serene crane]

Im pretty sure that attack speed is over a legal limit

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane

Tongue vs Gift. contest for the ugliest one?

[serene crane]

Gift looks pretty cool, its just big af

[buoyant roost]

its sooooo big 😄

[serene crane]

Did you get any good rolls on them? 😄

[buoyant roost]

it

it's for that bleed build. and to be honest it's doing good damage. but something with dancing strikes just feels weird. its not enjoyable to play. there's this stoppages at point that just feel janky and uneven

[serene crane]

having %dodge in suffix is actually not bad I guess with the 50% boost 🤔

[buoyant roost]

haha. I broke the 80% dodge rating 😄

I saw 81%

[serene crane]

Sounds like Rend every 2 seconds... 😄

[buoyant roost]

i just want the dancing strike to be more smooth. to have better control like with warpath

[serene crane]

Yea that would be nice... but at least for me I didnt have any issues with getting stuck or anything like that

[serene crane]

I saw 91% block chance last night... but everytime I check for Parry, it doesnt change, so Im not ever sure if it gets converted with Clotho... 😄

[buoyant roost]

i don't know how to describe. but the more damage on the DS is insane really.

Im think this whether it will improve the feeling

[buoyant roost]

91% withuot a shield?

how 😄

or wait on forge guard?

[serene crane]

Could be nice so you dont bamboozle all around the place so much 😄

[serene crane]

Corsair hat for converted glancing blow 😄

[buoyant roost]

oh but that is double converting 😄 you will break the game

[serene crane]

Well thats the thing, it doesnt show being converted to Parry 😄

[junior oriole]

Got a question about the shadow cascade or shadow rend builds where atleast maxroll wants to stack crit chance for crit capping. But shadows have extra base crit from the relic so they are way overcapping crit? what could be the reason

[serene crane]

It most likely doesnt have crit cap on its own without the shadow crit chance from relic, not the easiest thing to do without Peak helmet and other nodes for crit

@buoyant roost rate my forgedancer

[buoyant roost]

Budget Tyrael 😄

are those burning daggers

[serene crane]

Forged weapons

[buoyant roost]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/480944488999813130

[serene crane]

Lets ask there then

[light tendon]

Hmm. Often, when I Smoke Bomb onto Champions or tanky enemies in my echoes, then spam Shadow Rend,

I do almost no damage for like ~1 second.

Is it fair to say that Shadow Rend build has a "ramp up" period.
It seems like the mechanics: Shadow Rend casts Shadows, and those Shadows, disappear when you cast Shadow Rend again. When they disappear, they: cast shadow cascade and have a chance to resummon another shadow.

Is that fair understanding of the main damage mechanic?

And if so, it seems that the Shadows do not immediately disappear once you re-cast Shadow Rend. It seems like the Shadows need that ~1second to cast their melee and bow attacks, before they have a chance of disappearing through a future cast of Shadow Rend?

Sorry that's a bit wordy and I hope it's not confusing... just getting into the meat of this build (super strong) and want to make sure I'm understanding how the mechanics are interacting.

[wooden lava]

Okay, uber abby MAY be improbable to beat as multishot. I've been watching other classes kill it without one shotting it with an umbra blades build just to compare damage output.

I've gotten my Multishots to be able to get to about 400-500k a shot. The videos I'm seeing people do are doing that much damage as fast as Heartseeker ticks or hitting for 1 million plus as frequent as I'm shooting Multishot

[serene crane]

Shadows from Rend has a little delay before they attack and whenever you Rend again, you consume the existing shadows to trigger Shadow Cascade

[wooden lava]

Feels bad that you can't ratchet MS's damage numbers alone higher with sweet gear. The damage really does cap out fairly quickly

That's probably common knowledge at this point, but I didn't want to believe it until I tried it

[buoyant roost]

builds that can do UBER are super special

but you can do multishot with shuriken build to beat him

[wary cedar]

i wonder if they will fix the set ring tho

[wooden lava]

Yeah... I just can't get behind the level of rng trying to put that together at this point. I've already spent so much time trying to eek out every extra bit of scaling on regular multishot and heartseeker that I couldn't bear the slog of praying for shuriken corruptions

[wary cedar]

maybe marksan is op, we just didnt found the build yet

[wooden lava]

Non-deterministic gear crafting stresses me out bad. Exalted crafting feels great, lp slamming is the first "I sure hope it works" layer, then corrupting hurts bad when you've worked hard to make a good legendary and it has a chance of bricking entirely

I had to try like 15+ times to get +phys bow damage and crit+as on a drelkors

And having to do that again just to have it break would kill me

I'm not built like other arpg players. When I lose noticeable time, I feel it in my soul

[unique umbra]

That’s why I love this season so much. The set reforging + corruption makes for very viable options. If you can reforge and have even 1FP left over you can rune of creation for a safe chance at corruption

It took me all season until yesterday to get LP2 Razorfalls. Thank goodness they hit the slam on the first try. No way those are getting corrupted.

[junior oriole]

I have had the worst luck with set crafting..getting everything that you want is nigh impossible. Thankfully shadow cascade/shadow rend is so busted that you don't need that perfection at all for Uber/1000C

[buoyant roost]

You can take a rest a bit, or change character. The wearing out happens to everyone. But if you keep pushing through it, you will just quit. If you starting to feel the drain, pause. Rest for few days, and come back.

[wary cedar]

more uwu pls

[signal sail]

how do i build this?

[serene crane]

#🔪┃rogue message

[signal sail]

im confused T_T

[serene crane]

Confused by what? 😄

[wary cedar]

same

[wary cedar]

does a magic item can have a set affix nad still count for it?

[desert bridge]

No, it counts as a set item

[wary cedar]

that's not good

[desert bridge]

Yeah, the spear is in a bad place because they kinda overnerfed it

Even if you can use corrupted magic items with it

[serene crane]

all I need is to get crab ring and swap to Falconer... maybe the dino off-hand

[cobalt mantle]

It should count, magic just means 1 or 2 non-sealed affixes

[wary cedar]

two answers

what now

[serene crane]

I'd guess Toast is right 🤔 like exalted-set item, rare-set item... makes sense I guess? 😄

[cobalt mantle]

How sure are you on that? I haven't tested it, but based on Mike's explanations it should work still

[cobalt mantle]

Yeah, since having T6+ affixes doesn't prevent it from counting as magic, either

Technically, exalted isn't even a rarity tier

[serene crane]

I dont know about that one...? 😄

[cobalt mantle]

Internally, rarity is a number from 0 to 8. 0-6 is number of affixes, 7 and 8 are unique and set. Exalted, reforged set, and legendary are all "fake" rarities. The spear just checks rarity <= 2 afaik.

Sealed affixes are not accounted for in the above

[desert bridge]

Not THAT sure, but I thought we tested it last season. Happy to be wrong, tbh

[cobalt mantle]

The spear is definitely buggy when swapping out items, so testing can be tough... I think you need to re-equip the spear after changing equipment or something to update it properly?

[desert bridge]

🤷‍♀️ I don't remember testing it super thoroughly after they nerfed it. The numbers kinda weren't there to make it worth it

[cobalt mantle]

Yeah, exactly why I haven't messed with it too much either

[white steeple]

cries in no +1 shadow

[wild ridge]

what you guys think of my upgrades 😄

I still cant 1 shot Uabby reliably (in multiplayer)

[wild ridge]

I gotta ask what ones better 1 or 2

for shadow rend

[unique umbra]

Sword two by far

[wild ridge]

the katana would push me over 500% multi

but losing 19 attack speed is kinda bad

I was trying to craft a better sword but its hard man

[unique umbra]

Actually. Sword 1 is better if you already crit all the time with it. The base has 12% attack speed over sword 2 which makes it very close and you get crit multi and more flat with it.

[wild ridge]

yeah

and bleed chance is around the same

[unique umbra]

Rend already gives frenzy so you don’t benefit from the frenzy on evade

Funny they both got bleed and chill on hit.

[wild ridge]

yeah its weird cause I got both like that with suffixes

and worked with removals etc

[wary cedar]

when you lost track in your cooking session

[serene crane]

If you think about it... If 200% ailemtn chance means 2 stacks being applied... then 300% crit chance should be 3 separate crit hits...

game plz

[wary cedar]

plz game

[flint turret]

i odnt see how either are better than maxrolled set sword

[wild ridge]

no bleed chance on the set sword

[flint turret]

and why do you care about that

[wild ridge]

because I have no bleed anywhere else

[flint turret]

you have crimson shrouds and passive for shred\bleed combined

[wild ridge]

idk man I think the custom is still better

[flint turret]

if you dont... well, you can always rethink your decisions

50 bleed is nothing tbh

crimsons are 150

i mean i would get it if you wanted reforged sword to get pen or dodge % for example... but using sword with less flat and less crit multi just to get more bleed? your set affixes on them arent even t7, whats the point of bleed even

[wild ridge]

wheres crimsons

[flint turret]

here for example

if you run sync it has it too

smoke also has it

also rend has bleed nodes

umbrals have bleed nodes

cascade has bleed nodes

this also has bleed

[wild ridge]

I had hooked blades

[serene crane]

Finally got one and its only t2...

[buoyant roost]

t2 stun chance is what makes it good

but when you think about it's 9%, it's only 3% smaller then t7

[serene crane]

Yea but its not that cool...

[gleaming cove]

I just finished the campaign on my first character, and I'm really confused trying to find an end game build. I'm thinking maybe a blood falconer or something, but all the guides on maxroll have a bunch of endgame farmable uniques as "recommended to play the build" and in the starter gear set. How am I supposed to get endgame uniques before starting the endgame?

[buoyant roost]

one step at a time, as usual

it ain't magically going to happen to get that gear. climb the corruption, something will drop, slowly improve until you get BiS

[gleaming cove]

but then it's really weird to say "Blood Roost and Doublet of Onos Tull are recommended to play this build", since I take that to mean the build is really bad without them

[loud arrow]

Where the mana recovery for shadow rend comes again? I started running out of mana and I don’t know why. Maybe not having the mine trap is doing something

[buoyant roost]

Cascade and Umbral on Shift

[loud arrow]

Where do you even shift

[buoyant roost]

The most fun aspect of the game is getting slowly to your build 🙂

node in Umbral

[gleaming cove]

I don't disagree, I just think the guides are confusing. I'll try a bleed falconer with my random shitty gear then, and we'll see what happens.

[buoyant roost]

take your time. those small icnrease with like exalted gear you will find feel great. a good build based on the guide usually has those great progression times

[serene crane]

@buoyant roost classic... 😄

[buoyant roost]

you had the misery itch didnt you

you should stop hanging around

[serene crane]

Well if you arent corrupting, you're just losing at the game 😄

[buoyant roost]

im losing to uber 🙁

[serene crane]

With the shurikens? 😄

[buoyant roost]

no. fire cascade

36% best i could

I wonder whether attack speed on my tongue should do better than fire dmg

[serene crane]

Well 36% is not bad

[flint turret]

First of all, bleed falcon is terrible at almost everything, unless you know what you are doing and why I would recommend to reconsider the build

Secondly, most of the time you start with a build that can clear campaign and go straight into climbing harbs as is without being gatekept by unique items

For falconer that's probably aa into umbrals with shadow daggers I'd say or bladestorm shurikens

This also can be played as bleed if you really want to

With bow puncture giving you bleed chance for umbral explosions or whatever

But it's just making things more complicated for no real reason

[gleaming cove]

The maxroll guide says it has good clear and survivabilty, IDK. Just trying to avoid janky builds that use weird interactions for my first run

[outer comet]

If it's any consolation, I bricked a LP4 Peak earlier today.

[flint turret]

I dunno what guide you are referring to, but I'd argue that bleed falconer has either good survivability or clear without giga items

[flint turret]

I mean.... Bleed falconer is as janky build as it gets, maybe just outside of ballista

[gleaming cove]

keep in mind this is my first guy, so that doesn't mean much

[serene crane]

No reason to look at endgame/inspirational planner right after you just finished campaign for the first time... you most likely wont have the right gear for most of the builds anyway and early game is just fine with basic uniques/sets or just some exalted items

[flint turret]

That's exactly why I'm suggesting to reconsider the choise unless you just really want this exact build for whatever reason

It really needs specific items to come online and the gameplay is not really smooth either

[gleaming cove]

My "complaints" have all been based on the starter gear suggestions being confusing, of course endgame is endgame - im just wondering how to get there

[serene crane]

For a few seconds I saw like 150%... but I dont see it being converted to Parry so I guess that doesnt work? No idea tbh...

[gleaming cove]

I want good clear, smooth gameplay, and not to die all the time. What do?

[flint turret]

If you post your current planner we probably can think of something

[flint turret]

Specifically for falconer or rogue in general?

[gleaming cove]

any rogue is fine

[flint turret]

If any is fine I can recommend using rend cascade bd as a starter. Its kinda op rn for both damage and survivability

While not being completely broken like umbral recall

[gleaming cove]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/shadow-rend-bladedancer-guide ?

[serene crane]

after my current char, I'd definitely say lvling with detonate Bladestorm is better 😄

[flint turret]

This one can do but it's a throwing variant that has much higher gear requirements. I'm talking about melee for now

You can transition into throw later when you will have gear for that

Even starter is already kinda endgame in that guide

[gleaming cove]

Right. Can you link a guide for the melee version?

[flint turret]

I'm not really reading guides usually, sorry

But it's something you don't really need a guide to start with, I leveled with it and went straight into empowereds and it was just fine

If you somehow have doppel set and jormund set you are basically ready to go already to climb corr

[potent rune]

Isn't bleed falconer dead after the nerfs in 1.3?

[flint turret]

I'd you don't, well, just use whatever you have it will still work pretty well even withiut crit cap or whatever

Here's the planner #🔪┃rogue message

No items in it is mandatory really, but the only thing I would emphasize is having t6-t7 ward on shadow creation on any body and doppel relic

And it's as good or even better as phys

With doppel helm

I just liked fire for visuals

If you have tongue+jormund weapon it's fine, just use exalteds with high flat and inc like weaver mace or whatever

If you also don't have set it's not great but it's okay too, just use whatever has useful stats on them

Getting 2 sets is a priority tho. Can be done quite easily with prophesies for set items

[gleaming cove]

Cool, I'll give that a shot

[flint turret]

Keep In mind that's a bossing version and it's fire. You won't need traps for phys and you would want umbral recall with shift to sustain mana while having rend moving you(remove 2 leftmost points) and no tabi boots for running monos

You basically do this in monos, just hold rend and shift #🔪┃rogue message

[loud arrow]

I need to check those planners again. I think I broke something and I’m dying like an idiot and running out of mana 😆

On maps. Haven’t tried bosses

At 500c

[flint turret]

If you have mana on umbral recall with shift and you have set relic it shouldn't be the case , you can just hold shift and rend

Falconer passive with mana for dodge helps too

It sustains mana even without a smoke manacost reduction

Honestly I've come to dislike that fire throwing rend cascade guide, since I guess it's either too complicated or just misleading for people. People end up trying it and it just doesn't work for them because they are missing a lot of things, especially crit chance. Using scepter is giga terrible for capping crit chance because basically nothing rogue has works with it. Neither crit per dagger nor crit per sword, nor weapons of choise.

And the scepter isn't even that good to begin with. It most just 42% more damage, you lose 15% more damage in cascade because it's neither a sword nor a dagger, and also makes capping crit a nightmare

Also destroys weapons of choise passive too

And fr, cascade guide that doesn't use a single idol for damage per shadow with cascade smh

[tame jackal]

Hi all ,

What defenses do I need to focus on for bladedancer? Just started 100 corruption runs and I’m taking 10K hits when I have a 2k hp pool 😆, all resistances max already

[flint turret]

2k should be fine at 100 corr, and I don't really remember 10k hits on 100 corr, I don't thing even orobyss meteor can hit that high

[tame jackal]

lol woulda took a screenshot if it didn’t crash right after

But it’s happened twice now

One was for 10k the other was like 8 or something

Which made me feel like I was doing something wrong .-.

[flint turret]

Okay, what was that say at least

[tame jackal]

That’s the thing it was just a mob, not even a boss or anything

[flint turret]

There are some enemies with heavily overturned attacks and harbs/Oro can sometimes hit much harder than what they should

[tame jackal]

I don’t think it was a harbinger

[flint turret]

But in general it should be fine more or less

[tame jackal]

Unless it spawned randomly

I had just opened one of the t2 gates

[flint turret]

Ah... Omens can sometimes fo that yeah

[tame jackal]

Ok well what should I focus on defense wise to start pushing corruption ?

In general

[flint turret]

Depends on a build, but in general doppel helm is great, ward on shadow creation is great, just getting more hp, armor, endurance is decent

Reduction items help too

Like null, ravs, vise, red rings or whatever

Armor to dot mitigation is also big and less dot damage taken in general

Blossom primordial amulet is super strong to start with and not worry about res

Crit avoidance or crit damage reduction or blind is also quite important

[maiden gyro]

I need an exalted amulet with t7 throwing and whatever dex so I can try to slam the neck that converts potion too ward..

[flint turret]

Amulets can't have dex

[signal sail]

how to craft this im confused where to start

[flint turret]

start by farming at least 50 t7 helmets and 100 havoc runes

then you just remove-redemption-havoc everything and see what you can work with that didnt brick immidiatly

spoiler tho: you dont really even "need" that helmet, you can just slam t7 ward on shadow on a unique body, or craft a reforged one with sealed t1 set affix

[signal sail]

for real?

T_T

[signal sail]

wdym

im kindda confused to it im sorry im new

[flint turret]

just use the set doppel helm

[signal sail]

im using it rn

[flint turret]

and get ward on shadow creation on a unique 1-2lp body or make a reforged body instead with t7 ward

body is easier because you only need t1 set affix which you can seal

[signal sail]

what body should i use?

[flint turret]

are you throwing?

[signal sail]

im using the shadow cascade build

[flint turret]

throwing or melee

[signal sail]

melee i think

[flint turret]

fire or phys

nwm its phys since doppel duh

null portent would be the best probably

[signal sail]

and how about the helmet

[flint turret]

mountain body can work too

discord primo body is great

[signal sail]

in the mean time the set is okay tot use?

[flint turret]

just set

until you farm a stockpile of mats

[signal sail]

isee thank you

how about this one?

[flint turret]

im using set helm at 1000 corr still and i was farming uber with 0 reforged items and 1lp max

[signal sail]

im also using the set of mimicry

[flint turret]

and it works great

[flint turret]

this is even harder because it would need runes of evolution which cost lots of bones

again, just use set

[signal sail]

isee copy that

i gues its a really end game build

[flint turret]

i dont know what build you are doing but it doesnt look great already, because it uses crazy crafted items and its not even throwing cascade

melee has like 1\2 to 1\3 aoe of throwing

melee is great exactly because of how easy it is to gear it and start with

but it doesnt really make sense to go all-in on melee in endgame, the clear is much better on throwing

[signal sail]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/shadow-cascade-bladedancer-guide#gear,-idols-blessings-header

here

just saw it on maxroll and copying it xd

[flint turret]

of

im not liking what im seeing ngl