🔪┃rogue

[serene crane]

Yea would have to swap things around :c Kuzon sword instead of Jormun, Kuzon helmet over Calamity

[flint turret]

helmet not neded

yo dont care about cascade element unless you manually cast it

+4 is nice tho

[serene crane]

Got this yesterday 😄 I just should've sealed t2 instead of just t1... well, next time 😄

[buoyant roost]

but that lose the whole point of dancing strikes being converted to fire

[buoyant roost]

That's very decent I would say

[buoyant roost]

sorry I misread that. Yeah but would lose many +skills 🙁 and dancing strikes is HUNGRY

[serene crane]

mb, you already have Kuzon sword on the last planner you posted... the bonus from the set completion just wouldnt be there and DS (converted to fire) would have a chance for the Wisp to do the same part of DS so If they would copy 1st DS attack they would also copy Cascade, just would have to drop points from Arena into Cascade trigger and I guess swap Cinder for Cascade?

+4 DS on Relic and +4 on sword... even tho they dont drop that often, I'd still try corrupting them to get the max rolls

[buoyant roost]

Im thinkinng about that wisp mechanic. So it only appears when I ignite it, so I need to be using DS there. By the time I'm over the mob with DS he is dead

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olV7NOdk

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 89

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (21) / Bladedancer (69) / Falconer (9)

General:

▸ Health: 2,086, Regen: 18.46/s
▸ Mana: 145.95, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 59%, Regen: 33/s
▸ Attributes: 25 Str / 52 Dex / 18 Int / 15 Att / 24 Vit
▸ Resistances: 94% / 25% / 46% / 132% / 76% / 37% / 70%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 47%, Threshold: 667
▸ Dodge Chance: 17% (506)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (780)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 13%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 25%

Used skills:

Cinder Strike / Bladestorm / Dancing Strikes / Smoke Bomb / Shurikens

[buoyant roost]

this is the current one

Another issue with Cascade is probably mana

[serene crane]

Trash mobs in the lower corruptions melt either way, but it also makes bossing faster for sure

[buoyant roost]

I swapped a bit in DS to get the Lacerating Aura

because Lacerating Aura gives all my skills (shuriken most importantly) 200% chance to bleed

I can remove one point from Arena, and one point from Cutting Corners I guess.

[white knoll]

big win

[serene crane]

When I was playing DS I also took Puncture just to get mana/fury stacks, Sapping Strikes and Mind Piercer in Puncture should do the trick 😄 just no more spinny beyblade bladestorm

[buoyant roost]

nice. maxing resses would also be nice 😄

[buoyant roost]

give me +10 more points on lvl 😄

[serene crane]

How about dropping Rhytm completly? 🤔 10 stacks is 150% global bleed chance while the Aura is 200%

[flint turret]

what about global 80% more damage tho

[serene crane]

from Underdog node?

[flint turret]

from rhythm

underdog is not global its ds only

[buoyant roost]

yeah. but it applies to bleed ds applies (not the shurikens though)

maybe.... hard to caluclate

[flint turret]

dunno whats so hard to calculate about it 80 global applies to everything and other 80 applies to ds only

[serene crane]

Hows that different from Leveraged Momentum then? 🤔 same has pretty much the same text

[buoyant roost]

You mean from Rhytm?

And Refined cuts.

[flint turret]

wdym

[flint turret]

perfect choreography

[serene crane]

before you said Leveraged Momentum would increase DoTs applied from Cascade?

[flint turret]

yes

they are no different

i was talking about rhythm tho, which IS different

[serene crane]

Alright, yes... but to manage mana from Rhytm you'd have to take Sapping strikes with something

[flint turret]

i think you can sustain it if you dont sync inbetween

6 manacost is not THAT high

its the same as rend in smoke which is sustainable

[buoyant roost]

oh worried about mana issues :9

[buoyant roost]

I guess I can try

I also use smoke all the time. I do "insert" the cindering strikes during the dancing

this is to trigger the 5th flow

I can get some mana from that with sapping

[serene crane]

For the second ring, Sunweath looks great for damage

you can also corrupt Argentus for the +1 corrupt

[serene crane]

Also yeah, but it can be a lot better 😄 sealed t3 Jormun is 2% so 40% crit multi instead of 20% just from this... not max rolled crit multi in prefix and different corrupted affix would also go hard

[buoyant roost]

It's all bouat that RNG 😄

[buoyant roost]

hmm ill check sunwreath

currently pushing corruption on the detonation char

[serene crane]

Yeah.. 😄 but still easier than getting that Weaver's Gift... that would be better If we could somehow influence what rolls it can get but its even more random

[signal heart]

Is it? Every Blade Dancer Rogue Guide I can find out there uses it as a "this or don't" item.

[serene crane]

Exsanguinous gang 💪

[signal heart]

And to be honest I wouldn't even know how to make myself survivable against big bursts of damage - I already got roasted thinking Dodge was a valuable stat

[buoyant roost]

I think MG might be the only way.

[flint turret]

All I can say it's heavily biased but you. Rogue has 3 masteries and only bd has at least some low life support, and even bds are most of the time not lowlife. Sustain kinda suck on ll, doing Uber also suck as ll. Ll has a good entry point tho with how easy it's to get started with nowadays

[serene crane]

You know what, let me ask in MG chat how much that sword would go for, If it even exists, both season and legacy 😄

[signal heart]

And how would you go about mitigating these random hits of monsters that slam you for 5 - 6k damage if you can barely scratch 3k base health? I would consider 4k a high end past Uber value that would still miss a lot but I am also very inexperienced with rogue hp building, so I might be missing sources that double the final value

Right now I slam all my uniques with Throw Damage and not Hybrid Health

[flint turret]

3k health is usually more ehp than 6k ward, and 3k is super easy to get

[signal heart]

How so?

[flint turret]

Endurance mostly, and other forms of mitigation like null portent or whatever

Also stable ward number doesn't represent the same sustain level as being full health. You drop 80% of your health and you are back to full in the same moment if you are attacking, but if you drop 80% of your ward, gl getting it back that fast

I'm not saying ll is bad or anything, it's just not omnipotent as it might seem from a glance, but if you know how to negate it's downsides it's great for sure

[signal heart]

As of yet (first time beating normal Abberoth) "run in circles until it is back" is usually enough

[serene crane]

More sources than just top 3 builds from Maxxroll might also be great 😄

[signal heart]

Hey I also watched 2 YouTube videos for other blade dancer builds and they also used it xD

[flint turret]

I can outleech the Abby slam just by staying and not moving as 0-1lp life rend. And it's possible to make yourself tanky enough to live through 90% of attacks of Uber Abby too

[serene crane]

Ofc depends on your gear setup and all the stuff, but you can get ward on shadow creation, some ward on hit exists on few times, some skills can give you ward aswell

[signal heart]

Though I am mixing and matching builds anyway to what feels good and fun to play for me

I would never integrate Decoy as a spell

[flint turret]

#🔪┃rogue message

it didnteven have ward on shadow creation to make fair comparrison to a ll build

[sage canyon]

Why leech or tank if u can oneshot

[signal heart]

How did you mitigate so much? Endurance would only be 60% and something like big Tentacle Guy hit me once for 14k

[flint turret]

lots and lots of mitigation layers

[serene crane]

mid rolled t7 ward on shadow on helmet and high rolled t6 on body and I started facetanking t4 Julra's blast... I guess damage wise it should be bigger hit than Abberoth slam?

[flint turret]

endurance + null + convert void to phys + armor applied to dot + perfection armor stacks + crimson shyouds + glancing blows + more armor ftom throne idol+ etc. Can also add RAVS or stygian gloves (were not used in this) which would make it even more tanky

can also convert dodge to endurance thresh with mountain boots(were not used), also ridiculos ehp

[flint turret]

blast is dodgable by silver, you just need to otsustain the pool beneath you after that

[flint turret]

thats exactly why i said that 6k ward is at best like 3k health, realistically more like 7-8k to 3k would be a more fair comparrison

[serene crane]

I still eat the blast and live and the ward generation is so dumb I can stand in the pool aswell

[serene crane]

reminds me of this... normal Aberroth, but still 😄
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAf312jlTG0

[flint turret]

yeah thats why im not even making a point that one can add tons of ward on top of life, but you cant add life to a lowlife

hybrid life ward isnt really a "life" build anymore

[flint turret]

i guess i like dog skills

even tho they clearly overtuned cascade for no reason

well and tabi works not like they initially said they would

both shadows leave an actual shadow for some reason

[buoyant roost]

and? 😄

[serene crane]

Nothing yet, maybe MG is already dead

[serene crane]

Maybe they will just nuke Bladedancer, Rend, Cascade, shadow on ward absolutely from orbit in 1.5

[flint turret]

most of it was totally avoidable, they just needed to make things like they said in ask devs, and not buff the skills that are already super strong

so yeah i expect some nerfs for sure

specifically tabi, 60% chance to resummon in rend

for umbrals i dunno tbh, i dont even want to get into that rabbit hole

also doppel helm to 50% probably or something

[serene crane]

Maybe something like "this effect can occur once per 2 seconds" or something like that few other things have

[flint turret]

yeah that might be the case too even tho i dont like the idea

[serene crane]

Have you tried more with the shuriken corruption rend-multishot? We talked a bit about Heartseeker, but I dont think anyone has played it

[sage canyon]

its a dog skill

like literally nobody does dmg with it

[flint turret]

nope sadly i havent played at all since than im really fkd in irl currently

[sage canyon]

both rend and storm are full support/utility

and were advertised as some kind MEGA nuke/cool abilites

one is fukcing shuriken bayblade generator

the other is sync strike without cd

🤮

[serene crane]

Well make sure you're alright irl first !

[sage canyon]

BAD DESIGN

like has anyone tried full rend dps build without cascade or ms, that shit is probably sub 5-7 mil dps

and even as support skill for current op rend builds the only reason they are so op is cause we can get 350%+ attack speed and we dont need to sactifice any affixes for throwing speed

[flint turret]

while its true, most of us id dare to say wanted another way of generating shadows outside of sync, and we got exactly that

[sage canyon]

well literally 99% of what they showed in the trailer is long delayd slash/projectile

which is autrocious

and it turned out autrocious

like they didnt even try, at least they couldve added couple more multipliers for pure hit dps

[flint turret]

yeah it was unecpected that there were no nodes to make it faster or instant

[sage canyon]

bladestorm turned out even worse

idk wtf were they thinking or testing there

another fire trap skill that for some reason got nerfed only to add bs

logic? none

feels like 2 different people making skills with 0 communications inbetween

💀

[flint turret]

sadly they didnt turn out as good as HS was, but still somewhat decent and interesting

[sage canyon]

well idea is good

but MATH WHERE

idk amybe im so triggered cause i work with math

but this is insane illogical and stupid to me

is it so hard to put 1-2 multipliers on the tree?

but then again thats how half of the skills in the game, they literally do vibe balancing with 0 testing/comparison

like they coulde made it into a cool trap like skill where u place it and it shreds mobs, without it turning into better way to cast shuriknes

[pearl forge]

you can play rend nuke like LM

just think no one is trying

because tbh cascade looks cooler

to spam

like a rabid dog

and it is also sustain and gets you dusk shrouds etc

even without speccing into rend with shaodw dmg etc before i got BBC i was getting 2.1 mil crits doing the flow combo

and my gear was full dex for preparing to go LM

so if you go entropy + dmg to shadows and phys pen etc i expect to crit for silly amounts hell idk if there is also another big 2H apart from that one but would also work actually does world splitter work for it hmm

[coral tundra]

@pearl forgeHey, what is LM in your text ? 🙂

[serene crane]

Lethal Mirage

[coral tundra]

Oh right ! I don't like this skill so i forgot it xd

[serene crane]

Event Horizon? 🤔

[pearl forge]

yea event horizon idk why i say entropy always

[serene crane]

Its great with BBC, stacked cooldown reduction and Shift to always make it crit

[pearl forge]

but also maybe going the set combo with the set sword and ring to get more dmg and a good exalted dagger/sword

[serene crane]

Coated Blades with Event Horizon for some slow Rend hits? Sounds like crap for mapping, but it could hit bosses pretty hard

[coral tundra]

I already do this build in s2, with shadow i feel it's to heavy to play it

[serene crane]

Wait... I want to see Bladestorm with World Splitter, Strength of Arms for 50% increased area and Slagstorm throwing Umbrals into BS to make it even bigger... might look funny for sure

[serene crane]

Yea Ive played it with shadow daggers and lightning, its just Rend is pretty stupid when it comes to majority of a lot of skills

[pearl forge]

vaion's should also work so it would truck very hard yea

[coral tundra]

Sure but it's look cool xd

[pearl forge]

problem i dont really have time to make that build

so i hope someone tries

think i will update my LM one and maybe if wow mythic prog dies down and there is no new poe league i can try the rend one

[serene crane]

eh World Splitter only makes melee skills larger in area, so no bladestorm... sad Artifice relic it is then

[flint turret]

sierpin

[serene crane]

biiiig bladestorm

[mental dove]

guys i'm winging a build, first time as rogue. its dancing strikes proccing blade shield (shurikens) and it's all poison specced

right now I got 4 skills, dancing strikes, shuriken, shift and smoke bomb. what could be the last specialized skill? im not really familiar and don't know what i'm lacking tbh

about level 40 rn

[serene crane]

You could run Explosive Trap for Dusk Shroud stacks and the node that applies it with melee attacks; Decoy for dodge+crit multi nodes If you also manage to get Salt the Wound unique gloved which convert almost half of your crit multi to poison penetration so stacking crit multi becomes useful

[cinder ibex]

What’s stronger - shadow rend, shadow cascade, fire aura, shatter strike? In terms of builds

[serene crane]

Then there is Bladestorm that could be as a other spinny thing applying poison stacks, it works nicely with shurikens but might be more diffocult for managing mana

[mental dove]

but what could be the rotation? alternating bladestorm and dancing strikes?

the way it is right now its pretty dumb easy but thats the purpose

[serene crane]

You just throw bladestorm to sit on the boss while you keep dancing

[mental dove]

i might try that, thanks a lot

[crimson latch]

but only work with melee, the proc with bow is disgusting is bad af

self cast Multi is better

[mental dove]

also what do you think about my smoke bomb choice? as I said, pretty new to rogue and not following any guides etc

[serene crane]

You can also check on the Flow passive in bladecancer which can give you some nice damage

[mental dove]

im choosing defensive nodes + shred poison on the smoke

[serene crane]

Shred on shurikens is mu h better

[serene crane]

Yea I heard...

[wary cedar]

quitting work to grind on LE seems reasonable

[serene crane]

While working you might get a paycheck but you wont get those tripple t7 items... think about it

[wary cedar]

i work from home and with no worktime tracking

so technically nothing is stopping me

[thin vessel]

anyone know a strong falconer build but also tanky? i cant find a balanced one

[pearl forge]

there is no tanky build when you get higher in corru

just kill before they kill you

no ass can tank the 14k+ hits that rain everywhere

[neat walrus]

Do You guys like how Multishot works? Whenever I try to make a build by multishot I find the skill very clunky, where its often hard to hit enemies if you fire shots far away.

[main cape]

do i just use removal and pray?

[serene crane]

Yeah 🤔 even if you hit suffixes with removal it can be fine If you get lucky with FP... a lot of if's and luck 😄

[main cape]

just want to make sure i don't do it wrong, it's okay if it doesn't work

[wary cedar]

32FP is nothing 😭

[main cape]

it's long gone anyways

i'm very low on havocs

i don't think redemption is going to cut it

seems too hard to hit

just need to keep grinding

[wary cedar]

redemption is good for boots/gloves

[main cape]

ill keep that in mind thanks

after burning like 40 redemptions i had the relevation that this is probably a bad idea haha

[wary cedar]

ya many pieces have a lot of affxies

boots/gloves have somewhat few

[main cape]

FP doesn't matter for the weaver tree 'riches' nodes right where you imprint?

[wary cedar]

it does

[serene crane]

Doing Rift Beasts and picking rare/uncommon rune evolves is pretty good way to get ezpz runes

[main cape]

ah crap i thought they changed that

[wary cedar]

get a high FP exalted from nemesis and imrpint that

[main cape]

throwing attack speed is no good for the shadowrend build right? Maybe redemption this?

[serene crane]

Yea If anything you want melee attack speed or flat throw damage, you could just add it to 2nd prefix, Havoc it there and then chaos whatever lefts to something else

Alright, so 1350corr harbringer is dying just a lil tiny bit slower than 380corr one... 😄

[shrewd dome]

what build are you using

[serene crane]

bleed Rend

[shrewd dome]

ah

how is it on uber

[serene crane]

No idea, didnt try that yet

[shrewd dome]

oo lol

I get close with my shuriken bladestorm build but I keep dying in the last phase

so much crap on the ground its hard to see anything

trying to squeeze out more damage but not much room left 🙁

[serene crane]

Well If you can get to the last phase there, then its doable 😄

[astral stag]

for bow builds, is dex just the best slam for gloves or hybrid health?

I have some immortal vise, idk what to slam tho

I dont want to follow a build, I like home cooking its more fun that way

[wary cedar]

what boots you use?

[astral stag]

might go mourning frost for damage once I get a reign of winter, for now just move speed highest I can get

this is my alt, Im just leveling rn

lvl 65 rn

[wary cedar]

for mourning always slam dex for dmg

[astral stag]

ye ye true

otherwise?

for immortal vise ill prob go dex

but in the meantime

[wary cedar]

if you need tanky you can go health and stuff, but i would focus that as the second stat

[astral stag]

ok ty

wish bow attack speed or just regular attack speed was a glove mod

seems odd that its only melee but theres prob a reason for

it

[wary cedar]

just get cold/phys res

[astral stag]

ye

[wary cedar]

you will need a lot if you want to max out xd

[serene crane]

Might just ask EHG for a rifle

[astral stag]

lol real

wheres the hunter mastery

[wary cedar]

paradox class will be Sniper Rifle

like future weapon theme

[astral stag]

anyone tried carrion of creation gloves for faster clear?

I thought about a phys build for it, but idk yet

explode seems less important in LE than PoE since pack size isnt as large it seems

[wary cedar]

bow got good clear anyway

no need

[astral stag]

yeah seems that way

unfort

I will say, when I did the omen woven echo, and did all 3 at the same time, that was the first time in LE where I felt like it was PoE

so much density

very fun

too bad thats the only time it feels that way lmao

[wary cedar]

what bow you doing

what attack

[astral stag]

heartseeker rn fire with an lp3 hell reach while leveling lol

but again, prob going cold

bc reign of winter is very good

and mourning frost is cool scaling

[wild ridge]

does anyone here know about shadow rend rouge with trailors and the set items build I dont know what to upgrade to get more dps for uber abby

[astral stag]

but im open to all heartseeker tech

[wary cedar]

ya heartseeker can do the 3 omens just fine

[astral stag]

im a mage/acolyte player learning rogue

so

not sure

[strong storm]

link your character maybe?

[wild ridge]

how do i link it

[astral stag]

that was on my lich btw where I did that

not rogue yet

[strong storm]

import it into lastepochtools

[wary cedar]

that's why i am saying, heartseeker will do just fine for that, no need for more clear items and stuff

[astral stag]

ye ty

seems like just defenses and ST are the deep investment

clear seems chill af while leveling already

[wary cedar]

ST?

[astral stag]

single target

like uber bossing

zhp giga dmg type shit

[wary cedar]

hmmm

i think the best two options are full cold dmg with full cold pen

and the other one dragonsong build with the firebreath, firedagger etc might even take the kuzan set

but havent tried that

[wild ridge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BEdxL2Pw

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 93

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (61) / Marksman (20) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,655, Regen: 19.02/s
▸ Mana: 268.97, Regen: 11.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 34%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 17 Str / 38 Dex / 17 Int / 17 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 120% / 136% / 98% / 74% / 84% / 91% / 163%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 52%, Threshold: 331
▸ Dodge Chance: 21% (658)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 37% (1,891)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 14%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 70%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Shadow Cascade / Smoke Bomb / Umbral Blades / Explosive Trap

[wild ridge]

I think its good but i just dont know what to upgrade cause i can get UAbby to like 80%

[serene crane]

Get Mirage gloves, it gives you +1 to max shadows

[strong storm]

uber abberoth is a very technical fight, you can't expect to kill him after a couple tries...

do you know the mechanics of the boss?

[wild ridge]

mirage gloves?

I do

[serene crane]

Its a champion affix thats always sealed on gloves, cant be slammed on uniques and drops from Champion rare enemies with the "mirage" under their name, you can put points into more Champions spawn rate in Weaver tree and soon enough you'll see some

[wild ridge]

oh okay thanks I was looking for that

[wary cedar]

looking for me? 👉 👈

[wild ridge]

lol no

[wary cedar]

😡

[flint turret]

dps is not an issue just focus on not dying #🎥┃video-shoutout message

[serene crane]

Also craft some better sword 😄 and how many bleeds do you usually get on the boss? with Rend you have it converted to Poison which kinda lowers the bonus you get from Jormun set

[flint turret]

having 1600 hp is the biggest issue here tbh

unless your dps allows you to skip phases you are gonna get hit

[wild ridge]

yeah

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane Find me T7 added physical throwing damage and T7 while wielding sword/dagger helm

[serene crane]

there

[buoyant roost]

now transfer somehow.

[wary cedar]

why does it look like lastepochtools???????

[buoyant roost]

hack servers

this season im rarely getting double T7s 🙁

[serene crane]

Just click it by your left mouse button, hooold and drag it into the game

[buoyant roost]

ill give you this @serene crane

[serene crane]

Thats a horrible deal for 2x t7

[buoyant roost]

idols are the worst XD

[serene crane]

I got kinda lucky with this one today 😄

now when I look at it again I realized Im not using dagger tho

[buoyant roost]

hahaha XD

buts its a decent one

whats the max on penetration? 12%?

[serene crane]

9

[buoyant roost]

almost maxed man

90% is bottom?

[serene crane]

yep

[wary cedar]

uwu

[buoyant roost]

do you think this is worth for my detonation build

I ended up switching to net instead of aerial assault

[serene crane]

I'd say so, there should be enough points in Net to grab the good stuff and this can even give you attack speed, so why not 😄

[buoyant roost]

yes, and its a mana rechager 😄

I'm scared

[wary cedar]

if you do it

i ll give you an egg

[buoyant roost]

died 🙁

[serene crane]

No egg

[buoyant roost]

number 2 coming up

half an egg? XDD

[serene crane]

is this some kind of Song of Ice and Fire joke

[buoyant roost]

yeah man. now figure out how to freeze them.

[wary cedar]

get icecicle corr affix on quiver

[serene crane]

No, Im spiritually dedicated to the shuriken corruption

Buuut Ive seen some guy with cold Hs today doing 1000corr and uber Aberroth and the icecicles looked funny

[daring blade]

Cold damage boots

[wary cedar]

i onlt get icecicle on quiver all the time

not once shuri

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane your next build

[serene crane]

Id rather buy Diablo 4 than play Falconer

[wary cedar]

beat me in brawlhalla 1 vs 1

[buoyant roost]

FINALLY

[wary cedar]

lol

got mine as well today

missed the T6 Dex and got useless Corruption

sooooo, i need another one, and another exalted

[buoyant roost]

i would be afraid to corrupt 🙁

[wary cedar]

as i already said before, i aint playing the game to be a p*ssy

i am already irl 😔

[desert stone]

my last words before I lost my 1LP Shattered world that I had put a 37 throwing damage on

[wary cedar]

isnt that easy to get?

[desert stone]

Uber abby, just chance for LP

[wary cedar]

yea boss drop

also only 1lp so getting the slam and the exalted is easy

[desert stone]

having problems clearing uber abby atm, really rusty on the mechs atm. Getting back into the swing

[wary cedar]

are you playing legacy or what?

[desert stone]

Playing seasonal, just havent played since S2

[wary cedar]

how did you get the shattered world then if you re rusty?

🤨

[desert stone]

MG

[wary cedar]

well then, just buy another one xd

[buoyant roost]

now I just need T7 health T7 weilding a sword/dagger armor

[wary cedar]

this ain't S3 anymore

multi exalted = dead

double liraks, double armor 🔥

[serene crane]

Then pray the corrupt wont put them on 60% because that would be brutal...

[wary cedar]

jokes on you

i only get 60% anyway

to sad imprints are dead

[serene crane]

forbisdden balista affix

[buoyant roost]

yeah seems like it. and nemesis is giving me shit

[serene crane]

Nemesis just gave me 3LP Gathering Fury with 12% chance...

[wary cedar]

havocs just ate all FP

[buoyant roost]

why havocs and not redemptions 😄

[wary cedar]

redemption on chest piece?

broooo

thats even more delusional xd

[serene crane]

I mean thats better than whats already there... 😄

[wary cedar]

ig if i take +4 Level and hit the Health + good corruption

still good

17 FP for one T1 is crazy

[serene crane]

I just got two katana swords with t7 I wanted, had to remove one prefix... ofc both twice it hit and removed the wanted t7

[native summit]

Hi All, any comment or recommendations on what to focus first on my BD build

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Tom_Hanks/character/TomHanksBD

I am currently trying to farm +level of Dancing Strike affix so that I can replace peak of the mountain and drop Sync Strike completely

I also have another T7 Throw dmg and -Mana Julra ring that I will only start using on the swap

Any other recommendations would be welcome

[copper radish]

what's the strongest leveling build for rogue (will play shadow rend bladedancer)

[dull sequoia]

can i do something with this?

[royal solar]

Hey does someone have a showcase of the top blandedancer builds? Bc all people have the nearly the same build but I can’t find a build video with those skills

[serene crane]

Surely youtube is floaded with showcasing the same two/three builds

[crimson latch]

so shadow rend is now more OP? :V

[serene crane]

Nice, Flurry fix

[royal solar]

Can’t find this specific build but gonna search more

[shrewd dome]

Is ricochet for shuriken strong for single target?

[zenith sequoia]

ricochet/chain is never better for single target I don't think 😛

[flint turret]

okay i guess we were just misinformed about tabi and second shadow was intended all along since even hidden strenght will affect it now

[shrewd dome]

What about the pierce conversion on it

[zenith sequoia]

I think for certain shuriken setups it's fine since it doesn't override other behavior. Like for Chakrams

[void cargo]

got question how or where u can gte +1 shaodow roll??

[buoyant roost]

Shove it up your butt? 😄

I think yoiu can play around with this

[sly bloom]

I farmed the pieces for this and threw it together - any glaring errors or low hanging fruit? Working on getting the right idol/altar https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/MASHYSC2/character/Impracticality

[serene crane]

+1 on body from Doppelganger set affix and +1 on gloves (+2 Primordial) from Mirage champions

[dull sequoia]

dang

[serene crane]

For like 2 seconds I just saw a bit over 2700 bleed stacks...

[wary cedar]

i accidently turtled a 2lp RoW

[buoyant roost]

youre seeing things.

[serene crane]

Did it turn into 3lp? 🤓

[wary cedar]

it's back in my nemesis tab 🥀

[serene crane]

You wish...! but I run another game in the background and my shadowplay keeps recording that game instead of LE...

[gleaming rampart]

hey guys, how can i imprint a experimental affix on a unique?

[buoyant roost]

imma try abberoth now with my detonation. ill make sure not to record something else 😄

[serene crane]

Same as other affixes unless its sealed or personal affix

[gleaming rampart]

so to get a tier 7 and a experimental i have to be lucky and drop a exalted with a experimental on it?

[serene crane]

Yea any tier of experimental will do, you just Havoc it from whatever t7 to that experimental, make sure the item has 4 non-sealed affixes and slam it on unique

[buoyant roost]

yay

I know you said other way around, but im not listening to oyu 😄

[void cargo]

so its rng u get or not got it

[serene crane]

As pretty much everything, but its not exactly rare, pick nodes in weaver tree for more champion spawns and it gets way easier... just getting some exalted ones that are usable is about as same as other exalted items

[wary cedar]

[buoyant roost]

noway. imma use them to enjoy them for a while :d

[serene crane]

gamba time?

[wary cedar]

you know what you are

[buoyant roost]

I had some

this is not the LP2 one though 😄

that one waits for good enough exalt

[wary cedar]

this is nothing

why is my bro orange

bro what

bro

hmm

you also see it as orange?

[wary cedar]

bro

ah nvm

i m just colourblind

it's red

[serene crane]

Not only its red but it also means it didnt get sent 😄

[wary cedar]

ya i know what red means

but i was like

[buoyant roost]

https://youtu.be/n__GaxFzvbQ

[wary cedar]

wtf is orange

[buoyant roost]

not great not terrible

[serene crane]

its private

[buoyant roost]

ah sec

check now

[serene crane]

Insane

[buoyant roost]

only if it was one number 😄

[buoyant roost]

if I had that helm you woin't hack for me @serene crane at least 20 sec off

[serene crane]

Maybe one day you get your throwing hat

[buoyant roost]

but the clear is really good on this build. at least on 300 cc

[wary cedar]

discord straight up not wanting to load videos

dog shit app

[buoyant roost]

yeah not loading for me as well 🙁

what you play now misery?

still that icycle?

[wary cedar]

heartseeker yes

i will not swap builds

[buoyant roost]

where you at now?

pushing cc?

[wary cedar]

i m not pushing

just farming at a confy spot

to get better gear

[buoyant roost]

just found this 😄

[wary cedar]

you dont need the recurve i woud say

[buoyant roost]

isnt recurve always good

[wary cedar]

not if you can dex instead

heartseeker nodes makes recurve scale with dex

[buoyant roost]

ye ye. you dont get so much recurve, but damage + dodge

[wary cedar]

idols give 80% recurve
passive nodes 30%
and with 150dex you get 75% more

[serene crane]

Damn, Im surprised I managed to send a video without stupid nitro

[wary cedar]

with this % you have 3 guranteed recurves
and at 6 recurves you will hit your minium recurve treshold of 66%

so adding even more recurve chance wouldnt give that much value
just get more dmg

[buoyant roost]

that ward gen though xd

yeah sounds like you have a lot

[serene crane]

Dont worry about it, its only mid rolled t7 and t6

[wary cedar]

is this the normal one?

[serene crane]

yeah

[wary cedar]

weak

idc then

get better

lol

[serene crane]

didnt ask

[wary cedar]

i still got your answer ✨

[serene crane]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-kitten-angry-mad-gif-16754054616247640902

[buoyant roost]

omg...

Just dropped from killing the beast in echo

[wary cedar]

it's not that rare

[buoyant roost]

y 1 in 104

but you still have to spend a lot of shit to roll 😄

[wary cedar]

show me your shit

is it red?

[buoyant roost]

which shit 😄

here's one

thats my current belt

[flint turret]

dam the damage still kinda suck but at least its not a minute for you anymore

link a planner

have you tried it with explosive umbrals?

[serene crane]

still missing some better stuff, gloves could be a bit higher and 2lp, relic, ring
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXzjwyqb

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (21) / Bladedancer (86) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,770, Regen: 19.86/s
▸ Mana: 160, Regen: 9.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 40%, Regen: 69/s
▸ Attributes: 20 Str / 28 Dex / 20 Int / 20 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 85% / 126% / 118% / 110% / 88% / 101% / 140%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 354
▸ Dodge Chance: 12% (385)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 24% (1,035)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 24%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 7%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades / Shift / Smoke Bomb

[serene crane]

nah not yet 😄

[flint turret]

go try

dam no items for bleed duration, rough

[serene crane]

I could get some crafted corsair, would just be less Dusk stacks

[flint turret]

i think having at least Valdyr's Chalice would be better

yeah corsair is a decent option too

do you have a set helm? just go as is with it

pen with bleed on it is nice too

tbh i would prefer carrion gloves for primo instead but whatever

[wet bear]

does this mean that rend is even more broken lol

[serene crane]

So with explo UB and Corsair its 35s
with explo UB no corsair its 32s
with recall UB+shift no corsair its 30s

cant really try Carrion now without checking whole bunch of stuff 😄

[flint turret]

interesting, ty

[serene crane]

eh gonna just remove the ring real quick and see, its just -4 to all skills

[flint turret]

yeah probably not worth at this point

im more interested in converting to ignite tbh

[serene crane]

Carrion also super nukes nad bleed damage in the stats 😄

[flint turret]

it just scales much better

[serene crane]

Also the helmet I have just gives me 36% crit multi, so like 16 bleed pen with Salt

[flint turret]

???

???

[serene crane]

right, I should probably take that

[flint turret]

why the hell shadow flourish instead of those

[wary cedar]

it's crazy how many negetaiv feedback i see about imprint nerf lmao

not one positive feedback, seems like no one wanted the nerf

[serene crane]

so with Carrion and changed Cascade its 43s, but it also doesnt really do much on this setup

[flint turret]

yeah carrion is worth if you convert something into bleed i guess

[serene crane]

no Salt

with Salt

[buoyant roost]

huge 😄

[serene crane]

If you get lucky and get Weaver's Gift with like two DoT chances and Abandoned amu+ring, that might be interesting since it gets boosted by 50%

18s with Salt+Doppel helmet, swapped cascade and explo UB

might be even a bit faster with Shift swapped to Bladestorm 🤔

[tawny spoke]

@serene crane BRO IM STUCK LMAO

[serene crane]

Hopefully not in a washmachine at the end of time

[tawny spoke]

i have no idea what to do man lmao

i was gonna try the stuff u sent me and copy this tree https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/zge0t60e#2

and then i tried the planner u linked me but that also felt wonky because i think urs only works well with the items u have

so now idk what to do

https://tenor.com/view/kanokari-anime-fall-kazuya-kinoshita-gif-26402084

[tawny spoke]

by tree i mean like the skills and passives

[serene crane]

Technically it works the same, because he goes for fire converted cascade than purely physical shadow daggers like I did 😄 you still spam Rend to generate shadows=>ward while consuming shadows to trigger shadow cascade that refunds you mana per clone and deals bonkers damage 😄 shadow cascade, umbrals and explo trap all all automated by you using Rend, ideally in smoke bomb so its cheaper and faster, or just maintaining smoke bomb to keep it making shadows

nvm he doesnt generate shadows from smoke bomb

[tawny spoke]

ya that was a big diff i noticed

[serene crane]

You just have Rend and the Doppel relic, its improtant to have as highest tier as you can get

[buoyant roost]

What do you guys take as Ending the storm blessing usually

[wary cedar]

cold dmg

[tawny spoke]

i mean for now i just want to be able to get into empowered monos and start farming me smoothlyu

[serene crane]

Should be able to do that tho... 😄 maybe link the planner 😄

[tawny spoke]

ok give me a sec i need to respec again lol

ive respecced so much already

[buoyant roost]

I mean for you yes 😄 probably no other rogue build that uses cold

[serene crane]

I have ward per second now, but the stun is also pretty good

[tawny spoke]

wait which should i spec into ur planner or the one i linked

[buoyant roost]

never used the stun before. that mechanic slips me always.

[serene crane]

I mean, similar builds but each focuses on different thing 😄 he does damage with cascade which is probably stronger and I just go for shadow daggers procs

[tawny spoke]

right but

would u say ur build works better with the gear i have access to

or does that not matter

wat i mean is the uniques/set that build needs are those easy to get just like the ones u recomended

[serene crane]

I was playing just fine with set items and the two uniques, when I get more copies of the set items I started corrupting them and after that crafting stuff 😄 even to start his build you'll be fine with the basic set items/uniques

[tawny spoke]

which one is faster

as far as movement/clearing

[serene crane]

His build is theoretically faster since its the Shadow Cascade that hits hard instantly, while I have to stack the shadow daggers on enemies so it hits them even tho with Rend+Cascade its still very fast and pretty much instant, I was running 1400 about as fast as 700, just dropped it down to delete bosses faster

[crimson latch]

so with the patch notes this boots are awesome isnt?

[serene crane]

Pretty much 😄

[tawny spoke]

thats hugeeee

this is the planner right?https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXzjwyqb

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (21) / Bladedancer (86) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,770, Regen: 19.86/s
▸ Mana: 160, Regen: 9.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 40%, Regen: 69/s
▸ Attributes: 20 Str / 28 Dex / 20 Int / 20 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 85% / 126% / 118% / 110% / 88% / 101% / 140%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 354
▸ Dodge Chance: 12% (385)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 24% (1,035)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 24%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 7%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades / Shift / Smoke Bomb

[tawny spoke]

oh shit wait u have WAY MORE SKILL POINTS THAN I DO LOL

[serene crane]

@flint turret soooo first one is with explo UB and second with recall, its pretty much the same kill time at this point... 18s sounds alright and I'll still get some more damage from gloves, ideally 2LP Entwined too... CDR on belt might be very nice aswell + some passive/skill tweaks around

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 83

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (21) / Bladedancer (78) / Falconer (14)

General:

▸ Health: 2,642, Regen: 25.94/s
▸ Mana: 135.92, Regen: 12.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 56%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 58 Str / 44 Dex / 28 Int / 22 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 122% / 116% / 102% / 83% / 86% / 97% / 128%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 31%, Threshold: 1,082
▸ Dodge Chance: 30% (895)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 58% (3,647)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 72%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 42%

Used skills:

Dancing Strikes / Smoke Bomb / Shurikens / Bladestorm / Shadow Cascade

[tawny spoke]

WAIT NO ITS THIS ONE LOL https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A83pyWJ6

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (79) / Falconer (14)

General:

▸ Health: 2,106, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 172.73, Regen: 11.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 49%, Regen: 12/s
▸ Attributes: 22 Str / 53 Dex / 22 Int / 22 Att / 30 Vit
▸ Resistances: 141% / 102% / 87% / 150% / 46% / 85% / 131%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 421
▸ Dodge Chance: 26% (900)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (664)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 23%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 68%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Smoke Bomb / Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades / Shift

[serene crane]

Thats bleed dancing strikes, what did you mashed together

[tawny spoke]

sorry i couldnt find the link this is the one u gave me

and these items #🔪┃rogue message

the main issue is the skill points im no where near that

[serene crane]

Can you link your character?

[tawny spoke]

i havent respecced

but also hoiw do i do that LMAO

[tawny spoke]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/unento/character/sleep1

[serene crane]

You dont have the unique ring, thats why you're missing X skill points, resists and some stats

[tawny spoke]

i have to buy it u said

[serene crane]

Yea from the hunter npc that joins you in Beast Rifts he is also in that town in Ancient Era, idk If you can buy the uniques there tho

[tawny spoke]

they dont really show up often for me in monoliths

[serene crane]

ok he sells the stuff there too

[buoyant roost]

haha. wolves bugged. i killed heorot and harbinger but they still keep on coming Xd

[serene crane]

You can drop points from Sapping Strikes, you dont have any damaging skill that costs 0 mana, just take Dodge and Parry; in Bladedancer you can drop points from Pursuit and Once so you only get the bonuses for now and get Perfection or If you need some more mana then in Falconer 5 points in Wilderness Scout, 5 in Raptor's Wing and 4 in Stamina of the Rover for a bit of mana regen and flat 5 mana whenever you dodge

in Cloaked Reaper you only need 3 points for the bonus

[serene crane]

damn, never seen that 😄

[tawny spoke]

i feel like i just neeed to redo the whole thing right

[serene crane]

If you have any Ascendance runes, you can try using them on boots to gamble for the Tabi boots, Zerrik is cool but Tabi is better

[tawny spoke]

just copy this?

[serene crane]

nah just move 4 points from bladedancer to Rogue so you still have over 20 there and then move points from sapping strike, no need to redo the whole thing

[shrewd dome]

whats b etter on relics, %phy damage or crit multi?

or +throw damage

[buoyant roost]

which build @shrewd dome

[shrewd dome]

shuriken

[buoyant roost]

so whats your current damage % increaase physical and throwing

[shrewd dome]

508 for phys and 399 for throw % damages

and +88 added throw damage

throwing crit multi is 699%

[buoyant roost]

then flat is probably best

[shrewd dome]

okay. are you just basing it on which one is the lowest in general?

[buoyant roost]

you can run the calculation on the chat gpt

Im just basing it on my experience, but the math should be right that flat should give you the most

you already have around 900% increased, which is decent

but your added is not a lot

[shrewd dome]

okay thanks

[buoyant roost]

no proble

[tawny spoke]

so should i not use umbral blades at all for damage

just bladestorm and rend?

[errant pollen]

Is there a point to using Gladiator's Oath if Dancing strikes can just make the arena itself and it gives good buffs taking that node anyways?

[shrewd dome]

why do people put 1 point into ricochet on shuriken for uber abby? to convert the pierce into crit multi?

[crimson latch]

holy molly

[crimson latch]

why melee users can have throwing attack speed at rings, and attack speed at gloves but bow users can't

[errant pollen]

Does anyone know what item converts I wanna say Poison, void & necro damage to fire and then reduces fire damage taken?
I swear I saw something like that at some point. and it's not the primal that converts to physical damage

[tawny spoke]

does it matter? for rogue

[topaz schooner]

lmao I bet that felt awful in omen windows

[errant pollen]

When you create a Fighting Arena with Gladiator's Oath, is that like a 5/5 points in the dancing strike node or like a 1/5 points? I don't see any stats on it

[topaz schooner]

lol thats hilarious for those that were doing non-cascade rend

[kind adder]

Neither, you only get the stats from the skill tree if you put points in it, and you only get the guaranteed melee crit if you have the sword equipped

[errant pollen]

but the node in Dancing already auto makes the arena on the 3rd hit, why does the sword also do it?

[kind adder]

No clue, could just be an oversight. But the arena itself doesn't actually do anything, it's the node in the tree and the stat on the sword that make it do something

[fading burrow]

is Omen Veil best farming method/area rn?

[potent rune]

For idols sure, for loot no they suck

[signal heart]

I am a bit confused about Endurance: It seems the only item where you can get Endurance Threshold anymore are belts? Has it been removed entirely from other natural sources? So the only thing to look out for is basically 60% Endurance and then just raise your HP?

[charred pagoda]

I just learned how you get scissors of atropos, i wasted so many ascendence runes and favor on prophecies 😭

[lucid trail]

ok so i was about to run bladedancer (currently marksman for fun) and this dropped:

should i stick with marksman?

im pretty new to LE and so im still figuring out how to evaluate items

is this enough to stick with the marksman build? my first though was "this is awesome" but my 2nd thought is "maybe bladedancer is still better anyway?"

[unkempt kiln]

leveling a rogue (blade dancer) what's a good build to use? this is an alt so i have access to LP gear to slam some crazy stuff.

[signal heart]

In my limited experience: Bladestorm with Shuriken Storm and Dancing Strikes with Windmill Ballet and a Shurikens Skill with Blade Shield is rather fun to play - I wanted to combine Meele and Throwing by using both Shurikens with Bladestorm AND Dancing Strikes with Shadow Cascade proccing each other a lot but it turns out using Dancing Strikes just for the Rythm to boost Crit Multiplier and "More Global Damage" is way more effective while sticking JUST with Throwing damage

[tawny spoke]

which timeline should i farm for my first 300 corruption tl

do any of them drop tabi

[signal heart]

Tabi of Dusk and Dawn seems to be a non specific drop

[topaz schooner]

Oh my god I dont believe it, i dropped one. 60 hours later

[topaz schooner]

tabi comes from generic boots, so spirits of fire

[topaz schooner]

puncture + bladestorm until 27 then swap to shadow dagger. same as before

new bladestorm feels a bit better for the bleed part of the leveling tbh. you throw out 2 blades instead of 1 now, but you do lose the bladestorm from shift, which sucks

i miss that passive

[tawny spoke]

ty also btw not rogue specific but, has the woven tree changed much since last season? ive been looking for a guide and found one from s3

and im wondering if its still relevant

[wispy hatch]

any one got a good loot filter for blade dancer leveling?

[topaz schooner]

I didnt play S3, but It's a bit different from s2. Overall the most important thing that every tree should have is Memories Of The Observer, and all the Rift Beast nodes.

[tawny spoke]

like asap rush the rift beats?

[topaz schooner]

rush memories first

[tawny spoke]

wat does it do

or rahter

whats the importance of echo chains

[burnt cradle]

Did they remove concentration's buff icon? I'm not seeing it

[topaz schooner]

basically completely changes the way monos work. Instead of getting one node at a time you get a chain and your woven echoes spawn next to them instead of within, so you can pretty easily target farm any woven echo by just imprinting, resetting your web with Memories

[tawny spoke]

how do u imprint the woven echos

that sounds nuts

[half nova]

Nodes in the weaver tree that allow you to "imprint" woven echoes so they have a chance to naturally appear

[tawny spoke]

do u know anyuthing about shadow rend rogue btw

i feel like i kinda remember u

u helped me with a falc build a while ago

[topaz schooner]

In terms of twink leveling since you mentioned this is your second character, i have a list for that

Puncture Setup (before 27)
Bow: Shadow String slammed with T7 bleed chance. Tons of APS, tons of bleed, puncture will be absolutely popping off, and you can actually use this + bladestorm until monos if you want.

Shadow Dagger Swap
x2 Traitor's Tongue with t7 melee phys
Alternatively for main hand you can use Renegade's Will slammed with t7 flat melee phys. Tons of APS for your Shadow Rend once you hit 50

Rings
x2 Arboreal circuit slammed with T7 phys damage, the higher MS the better. You can do flat throwing but you'll gain more from % phys and you can use it on both bleed and shadow dagger setup.

Boots
You can either do Mourningfrost t7 movement speed, but tbh I'd just wait until level 24 to use Stormtides with t7 MS, and then Eterra's Path at 30 with t7 MS, which will be good enough until empowered monos.

Belt
Depends on what you have, but t7 cooldown on Vipertail is likely going to be your best option, unless if you have Jungle Queen then t7 cooldown **Jungle Queen **should be better. You could also do t7 phys, but the campaign is 80% walking so CDR should win, you'll have plenty of damage with just a single t7 flat on weapon.

Relic
Vortex Pennant with high phys roll slammed with t7 crit multi, could also do +4 shadow rend levels as the levels on shadow rend are quite nice QOL

Gloves
Honestly could just use void+phys res rares, you don't need uniques here. If you want to go ZOOM ZOOM then Fighting Chance with 10% ms slammed with t7 throwing damage is your best option for that.

Body
Kestrel with t7 hybrid life should be best here, could also do t5 phys t5 void res, or t7 armor, could also do levels to shadow rend

Helmet
Max rolled armor Decayed Skull with t7 flat life should be nice here

Amulet
Bleeding Heart slammed with either t7 phys or t7 crit multi

[topaz schooner]

I do yes, whats up?

[tawny spoke]

i just got to empowered monos

and i need to transition from this https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/bladedancer-leveling-guide

this is my first character though

[unkempt kiln]

@topaz schooner damn thats a big setup thanks for that

[tawny spoke]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/unento/character/sleep1

[topaz schooner]

you're pretty much ready to swap sleep

what corruption are you at?

imo the best version of the build at endgame is the set stacking version with Legends Entwined

[tawny spoke]

i literally just killed the first harb

so idk

[topaz schooner]

are you doing full shadow rend or just cascade?

wanting to do

or rather

[tawny spoke]

uhh im not sure

[topaz schooner]

shadow rend + cascade

[tawny spoke]

prob cascade

[topaz schooner]

yeah

[tawny spoke]

but i think thats more item req

[topaz schooner]

well cascade gets a lot from levels

but you can do it without the levels

the most important thing is capping crit

to be able to swap

thankfully you dont need peak of the mountain since doppelganger is so broken

for defenses when you start to push corruption you'll just want ward when you create a shadow on both helmet and body armor, but you wont have to worry about that and can use doppel for a while

i think i used doppel until 500c lol

[tawny spoke]

damn lol

is this a good build to follow

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/zge0t60e#2

hold up whats the diff between shadow cascade and shadow rend bd (this also has cascade)

[austere shadow]

Seem cascade physic kill uber faster fire version ?

[solar gyro]

Which for BS Shuriken?

[dire sable]

Shadow Rend is fairly easy gameplay, Smoke Bomb into Shadow Rend. Thats youre rotation :)

I havn’t killed Uberoth yet, but think I’ll get it today.

It can clear C1000 too, but have lowered to 500 to minimize random deaths :)

I can’t speak for Shadow Cascade build

[topaz schooner]

finally a good one my god

[edgy jacinth]

hi all, is shadow rend fire version the cheaper version than a phys version?

[shrewd dome]

what strat are you guys using to farm havoc runes?

[serene crane]

There hasnt been an icon since at least 1.2, idk before... you have the buff automatically on and whenever you get hit, just then you get a blue icon with timer which is a cooldown before Concentration becomes active again

[serene crane]

Check this for something better 😄
I just lock non rune and non-xp rewards in weaver tree; points in chance to drop runes in echo completion (Runic Hoard node) and the chance for double echo reward, what is nice to run Rift beasts and look for uncommon/rare rune Evolution whatever its called, then every Rift beast you kill will just drop bunch of them... you could try Fury and Fortune weaver node but that might bea bit rippy unless you just feel tanky deleting everything in echoes
#🔪┃rogue message

[shrewd dome]

okay thanks. yeah so far rift beasts have been the best

triying cemeteries/erased but it sucks so far lol

[half oxide]

Good morning guys, best new player build after completing campaign? Was thinking ballista.

[serene crane]

Surely some ballista falconer builds are still around

[lapis pumice]

Ballista got a very unique gameplay & has some requirements to feel good. Id recomend gathering most uniques, affix wise get the +skill & attack speed ones at least (without attack speed ballista will feel megaslow) and the minion teleport on traversal boots affix

Before swap

[shrewd dome]

man I cant see anything on the ground in uber abberoth lol

[royal lake]

this is ridiculous how do you even play shadow cascade build? i farmed 15mil gold on my primalist just to try the class/build out and now I cant play the game coz i get animation stuck every effin 5mins and end up abandoning echo

[serene crane]

Getting stuck in Cascade animation? 🤔 People sometimes had issue with getting stuck in Dancing Strikes

[royal lake]

yeah dancing strikes is 1 of the 3 priority skills in the build

and its not sometimes for me fml

[serene crane]

I havent tried myself and cant try it now, but apparently when you keep holding DS and use evade, you get stuck 🤔 try it out, bug report it ingame and hopefully it gets fixed soon... alternatively you could swap DS for Rend, a bit different playstyle and it doesnt look as cool as DS, but its still strong aswell, uses somewhat similar gear and stuff
#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[royal lake]

cleared echo without using DS so it's most deff a DS thing

[topaz schooner]

what the f

[golden stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlJ1AQlSh3M

Anyone know why OG Exploding Ballista Falconer isnt viable anymore or on any build sites at all?

I miss the screen cancer

[fading burrow]

no more free armor from Shuriken

its viable still but fragile af and dying nonstop from random shit

also, you can do the same with shadow rend and even much tankier

so no point to play explosive ballista anymore

[serene crane]

Based Nomad ring gang 💪

[topaz schooner]

dude i just dropped it in that map

echo

and then it rerolls to lp3 lol

[golden stratus]

im just trying to do the most screen clutter awful on the eyes epilepsy build but nothing comes close to exploding ballista

even shadow rend is mid af when it comes to my expectation of screen aids

[serene crane]

Rend with shop vfx Cascade and exploding umbrals is pretty more spammy than the traps in that video 🤔 not like screen tactical flashbangs, more like cluster explosions everywhere

[topaz schooner]

which vid? theres no umbrals or cascade mtx

mtx on rend tho

[lapis pumice]

It's viable but not meta

Couple 0.3 versions around, uber Abby is also doable but not particularly fast or ez

[serene crane]

the one Vaereth linked

there is mtx for Cascade, the fiery one

can add the yellow umbrals of light

[golden stratus]

who the hell is buying mtx though, gross, no thanks

[topaz schooner]

ahh

[serene crane]

Whole bunch of people, you wanted screen cancer without specifying any budget for it 🤷‍♂️

[golden stratus]

one would assume you aint paying to flash bang people, nonce

[serene crane]

Sure thing 🧠

actually got blocked, what a dude 😄

[topaz schooner]

they kinda cooked on the latest supporter pack

[flint turret]

So I'd say explosive wins in this case. Much better aoe + you don't need to spec shift

[serene crane]

I cant really say I'd be struggling with aoe clears tho

[flint turret]

You can add traps for more bleed and aillments

And dusks

[serene crane]

Truuue and more Dusk shrouds!

• traversal smoke for the cool points

[flint turret]

Don't forget to take trapas and no man's land in traps

And lighting bomb if you have points left

[serene crane]

Ive always only tried "Hold This", isnt No Man's Land kinda big for mana?

[flint turret]

Manacost doesn't matter when you have hold this

But more damage will still apply to your dots

[serene crane]

so something like this then? 🤔 No idea about the left conversion side, it just throws fire, cold and lightning trap?

[flint turret]

You forgot trapuchet

Maxing traps thrown didn't do anything to the right

[serene crane]

Yea I dropped one point from Minefield to Trapuchet, need 2 points in Clustered Eplosives for the No man's land, could probably drop another point from Minefield for Prepared Demolition I guess

[flint turret]

Anyways the damage and sustain is already there, go kill Uber finally

[serene crane]

Soon soon, I want to do some Observer runs, Ive killed them only once with the SD Rend

[topaz schooner]

I dont understand why people replace jormun's feast with a katana. it's so good with max corruption...

8% base crit, t5 melee attack speed, 140% crit multi, and t7 flat melee

that is impossible to beat with crafted katana

[flint turret]

But what about crystal sword

[topaz schooner]

is cascade elemental?

thats a pretty nice implicit

if it is

[flint turret]

Cascade Converted to fire

Rend converts to light

[topaz schooner]

ah yeah duh its rend that i care about

not a bad idea actually ragu

i'm not doing fire version i'm doing phys

but

i like that base

[serene crane]

Rend with fire conversion would go hard

[flint turret]

I did fire it just looks better, and I like that wings of argentus is non a meme anymore , and throne of ambition helps pretty good on uber

[topaz schooner]

what primo do you use on that one?

[flint turret]

Convert ammy

[topaz schooner]

ah

yeah

that amu is nice

[flint turret]

Ring works too or discord

[topaz schooner]

yeah tbh points after 26 seem kinda meh for cascade

so i could drop entwined for another setup

such as the fire one

doesnt the helm give +4 cascade?

[flint turret]

Yep

[topaz schooner]

crazy

[serene crane]

Yeah, sword for +4 to DS and CS

[flint turret]

No sword, jorm+tongue

[topaz schooner]

what do you do with points after 26 on cascade?

[flint turret]

Nothing really

[topaz schooner]

20-26 is like double damage lol

cascade gets so much from points

until 26 anyways

[flint turret]

26 is a soft cap tbh

[topaz schooner]

then its just more base crit ig

yeah

[flint turret]

Unless you go throw

[topaz schooner]

i'm throw converting but dont really need to, just using flat on rings atm

could easily replace that with % phys and it'd prob be more damage

or just go life and stop crutching on ward

[flint turret]

Throw is better overall but it has much higher gear req

Just because of range

[topaz schooner]

yeah

i'm just using the one point on dagger dance to add throw tag

atm

[flint turret]

Same

[topaz schooner]

i kinda wana try gloomstalker

with my excess points

wouldnt hurt to have more bleed chance too ig

[serene crane]

Im just putting some ignite DS with the Ember amu and this is not the best, but fire tornados might look look with it

[topaz schooner]

really good fire res shred application

these are my current gloves, havent found much better

[flint turret]

Shred is not an issue with trap attach

One of the reasons I went fire

[serene crane]

Yeah, worst case scenario you can get it from blessing, but why when the explo trap is free

[topaz schooner]

i cant even remember where i'm getting phys shred atm

ah yeah blessing

[flint turret]

I didn't like +shadow gloves that much from my testings

[topaz schooner]

i'm using brutality tho so my armor is terrible

[flint turret]

+2 primo glove without any other useful affixes was not even better than 0lp falcon fist

For dummy dps

[topaz schooner]

yeah i use it more for the entwined set proc

[topaz schooner]

i'd imagine so since melee attack speed gives so much more damage

[serene crane]

Losing access to all the cool primo uniques is also a bit meh...

[flint turret]

Yeah and it has some melee flat too

[topaz schooner]

yeah there's so many good options for primo

[flint turret]

Not really, fire don't really need any

[topaz schooner]

i see some using the dagger but it felt pretty meh compared to tongue

[flint turret]

So primo is mostly whatever

[topaz schooner]

are you guys using doppel relic craft?

[flint turret]

For body we have argentus and null, for ammy we got nihilis or exulis or omnis, for relic we got set, glove - falcon or lirakas, ring - crab/siphon/rr, weapons - reen/jorm/tongue

I was using none of crafted just sets

[topaz schooner]

i'm using exulis rn but if i get a max roll corrupted nihil i'll use that

[topaz schooner]

its so hard to beat the regular relic with max roll corrupt yeah

[flint turret]

I was thinking about primo set relic but I don't want to craft it for sure

[topaz schooner]

which one? 👀

[flint turret]

Primo set doppel

[topaz schooner]

ahh

t8 doppel

is it 12% base crit?

or 11%

[flint turret]

It's 50% shadow resummon

[topaz schooner]

holy

wait thats 100% resummon

with 6 meter distance

wow

[flint turret]

I don't think it adds

[topaz schooner]

someone said it was additive but it definitely doesnt feel like it

[flint turret]

But who knows

[topaz schooner]

im curious i'll test that and get back to you

[serene crane]

could be same case as on Ashes ring?

[flint turret]

And how that would apply

[buoyant roost]

does tornado cost mana

[flint turret]

I think it's just a double separate check for resummon instead of adding

But it's just my speculation

[topaz schooner]

i think you're right tbh

because 90% does not feel like 90%

[serene crane]

Could be tbh... Rend is so spammy I see shadows going from 1 to 7 all the time anyway

[serene crane]

I think Ive never tried playing with the gloves so no idea

eh it says it consumes 50% of Tornado's mana on cast, so yea; and base Tornado is 18mana

[topaz schooner]

there's no way thats a 10% chance to not be consumed, right?

i'm psure thats max distance

[flint turret]

I was also thinking about whetstone gavel primo + jormund reforged crystal sword

But I'm not crafting that either

Stun, damage and surv would be through the roof tho

[serene crane]

Gavel only works on exalted weapons tho, crafted set should no longer count I think? 🤔

[flint turret]

it should work from the answer i remener in ask devs

[tough thunder]

omens feel impossible on ballista is that normal?

[flint turret]

whoops wrong affix

[serene crane]

People here today mentioned its pretty damn squishy and with Omens vomitting horde of mobs... you probably have to pray and oneshot anything asap 😄

[tough thunder]

yeah...cause ive been farming them on my warlock but seems to prioritize acolyte omen idols when i do that

might need to switch to shadow rend to farm them

[serene crane]

could even get like t2/3 attack speed in sealed slot, If Gavel works then it should count every stat

[flint turret]

yeah

[serene crane]

Yea Rend with Cascade pretty much keeps clearing everything on the screen while you have a lot of ward from creating shadows, definitely easier pick I'd say 😄

[flint turret]

oh yeah and corruptions also work with gavel probably

getting some on exalted would be sick

but crafting all that is pure pain so ill leave it to someone else

[serene crane]

Yea its definitely a lot of tries... Im trying to farm some better swords and my removal runes straight up hate me

[tough thunder]

howabout redemption runes they hit for me sometimes

[serene crane]

Its just getting lucky with worse chances than 1:4 of removing the affix you dont want to make space... and in my case ofc it hits my t7 I want everytime 😄

[flint turret]

redemption weapons is rough, its 2 out of 22 that you would want as t7, and if you want a set t7 its straight up impossible

[buoyant roost]

@serene crane
Maybe?

terrible base though 🙁 and no chance to bleed/ignite

[serene crane]

Yea its pretty much only the conversion and %DoT 😄

[buoyant roost]

so close yet so far 🙁

[serene crane]

Buuut I guess its 2x t7 so a decent start

[topaz schooner]

Yeah that would be stupid good. 280% crit multi lol

[buoyant roost]

I need a finish, not a start though XD

[lyric smelt]

guys, whats the rune that change item to set?

[topaz schooner]

huh?

you mean ascendence which is unique or set

[serene crane]

None, there is Ascendance rune that upgrades the item to the same item type (axe to axe, helmet to helmet) with either unique/set result

[lyric smelt]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qnapn0dV

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (70) / Marksman (13) / Falconer (10)

General:

▸ Health: 3,766, Regen: 33.6/s
▸ Mana: 195.51, Regen: 11.68/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 40 Str / 21 Dex / 10 Int / 10 Att / 18 Vit
▸ Resistances: 99% / 63% / 63% / 64% / 71% / 67% / 66%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 55%, Threshold: 1,440
▸ Dodge Chance: 69% (3653)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 60% (4,433)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 77%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 75%

Used skills:

Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb / Shadow Rend / Shift

[lyric smelt]

like how is the chest crafted?

[serene crane]

You can get lucky with corruptions (even tho hitting Champ affix with corruption is pretty damn lucky); its better to just grab the CHampion nodes in Weaver tree and do mapping - or some woven echoes that have champions in them by default

[serene crane]

You find any set item, then you either go to this echo where you can shatter a bunch of set items into shards OR you use corruption rune on set items and they have a chance to be changed into like exalted/set items... you can get some good one or If you simply shatter it, get shards and use them as other shards during crafting

[lyric smelt]

ah so they are shards, not runes

[topaz schooner]

sadge

[lyric smelt]

got it

[topaz schooner]

set crafting is so rough man

[serene crane]

Yeah... ideally you want exalted item with t7 that you want and free slot for prefix/suffix (some sets are pre/su), then you just slap it there... also it depends on the set, not every time you need like t5/t7 of it so you can seal t1 set affix with Despair, it frees the slot for something more useful and it'll still work as a set item

[topaz schooner]

^

Its especially hard to craft if you need the set affix sealed because you have to start with a removal, add the mod, seal it, then add back the mod you want, then land the havoc, then upgrade everything else and reroll the values

[flint turret]

or you can just ignore sets ans slam uniques instead without worrying about set bonuses much

or use maxed set pieces

[topaz schooner]

you could do that too and tbh i might do the primo gavel setup

with fire conversion

since levels are kinda w/e

after 26

like what am i doing with 2 more points at 26

[flint turret]

you still have 26

[topaz schooner]

lol

thats my point

[flint turret]

4 helm and 2 argentus

[topaz schooner]

what do you slam on argentus?

ward on shadow?

[flint turret]

well and +2 from nihi\omni if you want also

probably yeah

[serene crane]

I can still link you the 41 point DS potato planner If you want more points

[flint turret]

or cascade or shadow damage if you want more

[topaz schooner]

the problem is argentus kinda pointless if you're doing omen windows and shit that you just sit in smoke and spam rend

[flint turret]

why

you move with rend

sit still is for bosses

[topaz schooner]

oh i use tabi

for extra ward gen

[flint turret]

you dont have too its terrible for clear

#🔪┃rogue message

you sustain rend without smoke from recall

you dont have to sit still

[serene crane]

Get some cool pair of Vaions

[flint turret]

i prefer skin over vaions prob

[topaz schooner]

how are you sustaining mana?

[serene crane]

UB Shift recall

[flint turret]

its totally enough to just hold rend and shift forever

[topaz schooner]

Ah

i might try that when i get some more melee attack speed

[flint turret]

t7 as falcon +t7 as tongue thats pretty much it

[topaz schooner]

yeah i dont have any melee attack speed on tongue, trying to hit one stil

[flint turret]

you went for flat?

[topaz schooner]

went for multi because i had no bleed application at the time

didnt realize how important crimson shrouds were

[flint turret]

bruh

multi would be probably #4 prio for me after as, flat and % inc

[topaz schooner]

i have a lot of % inc from idols i dont think it comes close to multi

[flint turret]

yeah idols can help with inc

[topaz schooner]

i'm at 756% with 7 shadows atm

need a 5 omen altar

one day...

maybe

lol

so rare

[flint turret]

its easier for phys, using fire limits idol setups quite a bit

[topaz schooner]

best one i've been able to find in maybe 30 omen veils?

[topaz schooner]

you cant just use the same one?

[flint turret]

looks terrible ngl

i was just using the squate one

[topaz schooner]

ah

[flint turret]

with 8% inc hp for each huge idol

[flint turret]

i have to use throne which is 2x2

[topaz schooner]

yeah i just realized

sucks

[flint turret]

well, i dont heally "have" to, its just a boss dps tool

[topaz schooner]

20% more damage is a big multiplier but out of convenience I'd just use the same idols

as my phys casca

[flint turret]

its 40 not 20

[topaz schooner]

oh

yeah thats uh

jesus

is it 100% uptime?

[flint turret]

and 40% more armor too

[topaz schooner]

oh wow

[flint turret]

in monos no on bosses yes