🔪┃rogue

[crimson latch]

they need to fix mana cost and attack speed and the node for multishot just sucks, even fireball do more dmg

[pulsar solar]

You’re right

[wary cedar]

i already went through all the steps of "why the fck does loose pocket not work?!"

could say i m a professional in that topic

[serene crane]

Rendered all the problems

[flint turret]

Yeah it's a drastic difference between rend cascade and rend multishot. Each cascade costs 5 and gives back 6 while multishot just drains you and deals less damage. I'm still committed to build it eventually but I don't see it being good without shurikens, and that needs much longer gear preparation

[crimson latch]

ikr

[finite arch]

.....

[crimson latch]

i hate EHG just because hates MM, but i love them because i've never played that many hours like i do with LE

[pulsar solar]

I think guile is a nice idea but bad ingame. It’s just not worth it rn. I have 136 Guile and I get 0,3 cd recovery

[floral cypress]

any falconer build worht besides ballista? Or should I respec into bladedancer?

[halcyon crane]

cdr just sucks in general the more of it you stack

[amber solstice]

where is it better to invest an extra point?

[crimson latch]

Hi
which is better for BD bladestorm

[pulsar solar]

Definitely 👍🏼

[twilit ibex]

Depends if you're dying or want damage

[crimson latch]

i have enough dmg, i farm at 700c

but the first one looks sweet i dont want to lose too much dmg

[steady cypress]

hmm

just saw this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIYWiQGUoRY

I wonder why do we convert damage to shadow cascade to fire here

[halcyon crane]

firestarter and kuzon set effect probably

[steady cypress]

don't we have better physical supporting stuff?

[halcyon crane]

technically

burning daggers and the more fire dmg mod more than make up for it

also cascade has a lot of generic dmg multipliers so conversions are fine with it

[steady cypress]

this one look nice

[twilit ibex]

Throne of ambition is also broken

[cyan wren]

I've fallen to one problem on rogue:
Killing Uber Abberoth is faster than killing Normal Abberoth.

Why do we have to RP 1 hour every Normal Abberoth?

[dusty olive]

Anyone got an endgame shadow rend build? Loving my leveling build at the moment

[fading burrow]

idk what is best but not ballista who is bad in Omen Veil (other contents is still pretty good)

[floral cypress]

falconer has 0 good builds besides ballista

[crimson latch]

dude fnally my first RR and its 1lp

[cyan wren]

Crafting Set items is really hard huh.

WHere people get their forging potential to get those gg items done.

[cyan wren]

what?

[crimson latch]

you cn try corrupt them

i got a insane 2t7 from tht

armor piece mult shot t7 + t6 health an dopp fixed and alot of ress

t_t

[cyan wren]

Corrupting Set Items can make them go from T1 to T7?

[crimson latch]

try corrupt a set item

it goes totlly random item with the afixx

t1-t7 or sealed too

[crimson latch]

from corrpted kuzon

[elder condor]

Yall like lizard’s guides?

[crimson latch]

no

[elder condor]

I think a lot of people don’t like lizard’s guides but idk why. I thought there was one time where he had outdated shit compared to everyone else and people called him out about it

[rain creek]

It only procs when near enemies

[crimson latch]

is the bd bladestorm with dancing strike the strongest? cause i get bug all the time with the animation x

[turbid oar]

is black blade mirage any good rn? at a glance i'd assume it's probably worse than bd synch cascade but hard to say

[shrewd dome]

I started a quest echo and it didnt send me into the zone, now Im stuck in the safe area...

do I just relog or wait?

[cobalt mantle]

Did a portal open up near the monolith thingy? If so, touch that. Otherwise, yeah relog or rezone should hopefully fix.

[jaunty glen]

How do I stay stationary while I dancing strikes?

[turbid oar]

in my experience u need to click like right next to your character

[cyan wren]

Anybody in chat has Uber Abb and needs carry?

I wanna test my dmg.

[covert cairn]

@fathom stag got it to one shot uber nearly every time now just needed to change weapon... I will be trying for more damage to make it more consistent but with 1LP it you need to be more exact

i will be upgrading a couple key pieces to to get even more dps and more consistency

and thanks potato for such an amazing build 😛 and even echos half decently with the rings I linked before

mind you i did do more than 1LP

[stiff oar]

I noticed that my created shadows weren't creating their shurikens as blade shields, are they not using my shurikens skill tree?

[lyric smelt]

anyone tried shadow rend for lvling?

[potent hemlock]

hmmm

Doesn't seem to be triggering 100% of the time

[cyan wren]

Ubber Aberroth carry.

[covert cairn]

i mean I can kill uber in 90 second on my warpath but this build is way more fun 😛 I just 1 shot it

[cyan wren]

Yeah but u cant one shot him in party. He gets lots of more hp.

[covert cairn]

yah, I might be able to... if i get my next 2 upgrades

I am on legacy so I have access to all my old exalts etc

[cyan wren]

Well I one shot him solo and I cant one shot him in 2 man paryt.

[covert cairn]

just need a 4LP traitor

i wasnt gonna play this season TBH then i saw this build

[cyan wren]

HOLY dagger.

Well gl finding 4LP Tongue.

1 in 5300

[covert cairn]

yeah, I just need to upgrade boot + traitor

I am cof so 1:2500

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Vuthia/character/slicer

current gear

[cyan wren]

damn thats pretty good gear u should be consistently one shotting him. U dont lack dmg at all.

I have worse gear.

[covert cairn]

I can 1 shot him nearly every time now

got better at timing

I did notice more damage made it easier consistently

[cyan wren]

yeah this build 1 shot even on 1 LP gear so upgrading it is pointless anyways.

[covert cairn]

I suck at timing lol

but i got better

[cyan wren]

well timing is the only way to 1 shot him. If u fvck up timing on 4LP items u wont be 1 shotting him anyways.

[covert cairn]

will help you echo.

i kept dieing without these.

[cyan wren]

When u can do on 1LP. SO i see no reason to keep upgradin it.

that good dagger can be used for more fun mappin build.

[covert cairn]

it's a fun echoer

you should see my warpath

under character look for it

unholy slayer...

[cyan wren]

wdym?

[covert cairn]

i mean i did echos before without the rings I kept dieing

so if needed to plant ubers or level

but with the rings on I can at least survive mostly at 500c

[covert cairn]

i like nearly perfect characters sadly 🙁

[potent hemlock]

I still don't really understand why my Heartseeker deals way too little damage and clears like shit

33 dex, +2 HS on chest, RoW, LP1 Troaka's, LP1 Mourningfrost

monakS

[serene crane]

Ive only played it in 1.2 so cant say much, but it looks more or less similar, might be stronger with corruptions and omens now 🤔 low life lightning felt better than shadow daggers; 500-1000c echo farming was fine, just Uberroth was pretty slow and didnt kill him back then, one youtuber from here has killed him I think 😄

[weary magnet]

corrupt? 💀

[daring trench]

has anyone used the maxroll shadow cascade build? was curious whether or not its good or if there's better options

[serene crane]

Thats... pretty nice? 😄

[cyan wren]

Any tips on crafting Set Items without it getting to 0LP so fast before finishing it?

Or just get lucky.

U got all highest tier on it and still have 22 FP left

[serene crane]

Havoc and pray I guess?

[turbid oar]

yeah I was thinking of playing low life but there's a bunch of leech in lethal mirage's tree that you can't avoid I'm guessing the gloves that remove leech fixes this?

other thing that's kinda lame is that dancing strikes needs dual wielding

otherwise u could use dancing strikes to buff the damage of lethal mirage by a shit ton

[serene crane]

Those gloves were bugged in 0.2, idk if it got fixed already, I didnt bother reading any patch notes.... 😄

I think I got 4LP Boulderfists tho... that stun chance is definitely great with LM if you get cooldown low enough, can easily stunlock bosses on some corruptions

[flint turret]

It's now stong as ever with buffed damage effectiveness and new flow, but I think it's gonna struggle with omens. Without having a constant and big aoe output it's hard

[turbid oar]

i kinda wish we could have bbc's cdr built into the tree, i lowkey just really want to try dancing strikes + lm but you don't got any method of dealing with the cd and yeah

[flint turret]

Even with spammable skills it's tough when they start stunning you

[turbid oar]

i heard the targeting is complete ass in omens

the mirages will try to hit invul stuff

[serene crane]

Yea Ive done that new Omen woven once so far and hoooly PoE mob swarm vibes... that new omen chaos echo is cool tho, but also a lot of random sh!t flying everywhere

[flint turret]

Yeah

[turbid oar]

kinda misreable to try to tell what is going on on the floor

[serene crane]

lol sounds about right I guess 😄 atm I play with bleed bladestorm+shurikens and net... its funny to stack bleeds on the invul Omen, then the invul is gone and they just explode 😄

[flint turret]

The only thing I didn't like in the boss fight is how the observer constantly teleports

And I literally have no idea where he is

[flint turret]

Same problem with rend

But at least I can spam it and it has great aoe

[serene crane]

I havent done Observer yet, but Ive heard it should be below Uberroth with scaling? Im just chill farming 300c, t4 Julra... havent went to normal Aberroth yet

[teal remnant]

Guys, how do i farm crytallized beast material for the armor?

i am at 200 corruption

[turbid oar]

main thing I dont like abt rend is the delay tbh

bruh why isn't there a way to serach by idol type in the market

[serene crane]

In weaver tree I just picked every Beast node, doing Rift beasts in every echo... maybe one of the woven echoes?

[flint turret]

Yeah it's between Abby and Uber. I've done it once so far, and it was not harder than doing the 3 omen echo at the same time to get the observer map in the first place

[flint turret]

Heart nodes in weaver atlas+beast nodes+imprinting beast maps like beast champions or whatever

[serene crane]

Have you tried Rend with Shadow Daggers?

[flint turret]

I leveled with it, pretty good

But nothing changed that sd falls off hard

[serene crane]

Damn, really?

[flint turret]

I mean... I'm at 40-ish seconds dummy kill time on 0-1 lp and half of regular set items with rend cascade

Gl with sd

[serene crane]

Hmmm... I'll probably give it a try, worst case scenario I continue with the bleed bladestorm instead 😄

[fallen whale]

does a mace does anything for bladestorm and umbral blade ?

those skills are throwing and not melee right?

[flint turret]

I think they overbuffed cascade tbh. I know it's nothing compared to the new umbral recall but still

We double dip on attack speed now

Attack speed gives faster rend = faster cascades AND cascades get MORE damage per attack speed

[cyan wren]

all the stats on it are melee, bs and ub are throw.

[serene crane]

The armour shred should still work tho

[serene crane]

Yea sounds kinda like wild scaling

[fallen whale]

I read it as bonus for shadow blade which is a melee dmg right?

[desert hazel]

There’s the bd passive that gives crit multiple for mace and dagger combo

[serene crane]

Well yeah... Umbrals and Bladestorm is Throw, but the Shadow Daggers from them are both melee and ranged

[fallen whale]

ty for answering 📈

[turbid oar]

afaik shadow daggers scales off both right?

like both melee and throwing damage affixes

[flint turret]

only 1 1lp damage item

[wary cedar]

i hope next season will address balancing

[serene crane]

Is that 20m hit? 🤔

[flint turret]

yep

[coral tundra]

I'm curious, i'm playing the same build but i don't hit at 20m xd

[flint turret]

import ragulol \ ragulrend to see the diff

[serene crane]

Looks good... Ive cooked some scuffed SD rend/cascade with full set items and the beast unique ring, it probably wont br much but it looks funny 😄

[flint turret]

sd rend felt decent

[coral tundra]

What do you mean ?

[flint turret]

i forgot to check if tabi shots apply sd tho, did you?

[serene crane]

Gotta try later how I do on the dummy with bleed, havent tried that yet either

[flint turret]

do you know of lastepochtools?

[coral tundra]

Sure

[flint turret]

import there

[coral tundra]

From build guide ? Build planner ?

[serene crane]

It doesnt say on the planner... and Tabi isnt green so... not very ECO-friendly

[flint turret]

from character name

[coral tundra]

Got it thx

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A14RY1wb

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Rogue (28) / Bladedancer (62) / Marksman (13) / Falconer (10)

General:

▸ Health: 3,071, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 205.51, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 30%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 31 Dex / 15 Int / 15 Att / 23 Vit
▸ Resistances: 84% / 59% / 59% / 73% / 72% / 81% / 85%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 57%, Threshold: 1,075
▸ Dodge Chance: 74% (4766)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 52% (3,372)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 113%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 73%

Used skills:

Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb / Shadow Rend / Explosive Trap

[coral tundra]

I'm playing this version for now

[flint turret]

why throw tho

it didnt got buffed like melee did isnt it

[dreamy shuttle]

sorry where is dummy ?

[coral tundra]

don't know, i see him on YT, looks cool so i copied this build xd

[flint turret]

in arena

[dreamy shuttle]

thank you

[flint turret]

did it say why its throwing im a bit curious

[dreamy shuttle]

now i play this build

[flint turret]

maybe to scale umbrals as well...

[dreamy shuttle]

corrupt 650 really feel good

[coral tundra]

Not really but it's very strong actually

I just need to be better to bit ubber

[flint turret]

yeah its likely for umbral damage, kinda makes sense, im focused on melee

[serene crane]

Maybe for the Explo trap? idk... Ive tried the +11mana node in Explo with the Bladestorm relic and my mana almost instantly disappeared so that was a no-no-node

[flint turret]

umbrals scale of dusk shroud and hes getting 20 easily

[coral tundra]

Throwing for passiv set of the mask maybe ?

[flint turret]

well it requires much better gear to afford throw affixes everywhere so not really my theme

[coral tundra]

Yes needed a lot of t7 throwing affix

But just 1 skyrocket your damages

[flint turret]

well damage isnt the problem for me on melee for a long time, i just need some survivability from the missing ward on shadow on body

[coral tundra]

It's super hard affix to get

Even weaven three

[flint turret]

im not going for a reforged, ill just slam it on discord\null\wings or whatever when i solve the res without blossom

[coral tundra]

And you thinking you can beat ubber with that ?

[flint turret]

im mostly sure yes

[coral tundra]

Arf, i really need to train my skills for him ... i never beat him

[flint turret]

its tough if you cant burst him down or tank him out

it took me 3 days to clear it on my scuffed zdps HS, fight took 11 min back in 1.2

[coral tundra]

He's one shoting me but i can do 20% of his life in 2 secondes

But when he got ward, i can't really survive with this pattern on the ground

(sorry for my english, i'm really trying to do my best xd)

[flint turret]

ifyou can get him to ward while he spins thats more than enough damage to clear him, the rest is tankiness and movement

[coral tundra]

kk got it, thanks mate 🙂

[flint turret]

ideally you want to be tanky enough to not die to random hits outside of pizza slam, spin, stacked beams, gigabeam, void ground

[coral tundra]

I have for the moment, 2k5 life and 5k ward but no enought xd

[flint turret]

it should be enough

[coral tundra]

I already have t6 ward with shadow on my chest

H'es one shooting me xd

[flint turret]

he hits for like 6-7k ward with his hits, your should have some hp left after his hit

[serene crane]

Its really a lot of dodging... 😄

[coral tundra]

I'm trying xd

[flint turret]

using ravs gloves can help a lot too

[coral tundra]

I try maybe 30 times to beat him so i'm not super warning at this patterns :/

[rocky nova]

It takes a while to learn his patterns, he's supposed to be really difficult even for strong builds

[flint turret]

ah, yeah, do another 300 and youll be more or less fine

[cyan wren]

Holy maxroll ball.

[flint turret]

he is really difficult unless op build indded

[coral tundra]

Ah !

[rocky nova]

slam and corrupt it! 😄

[coral tundra]

Nice idea

[flint turret]

just make sure to have cleance, but thats already a reqirment for uber tbh

his frailty destrous your damage output, and if you dont have cleance its rough

[serene crane]

Uber noob question, but this wouldnt trigger any other skills like Cascade, right? 🤔

[flint turret]

at least it shouldnt

also i didnt get a clear answer about shadow consumptions priorities from devs

for like if you have a rend shadow consumption and dark quiver shadow consumptionn at the same time

[wary cedar]

i m in positive phys res, that's insane

[serene crane]

ah crap I missed that... Im thinking about trying to use traversal Smoke Bomb with Rend for the SD, doppleganger set... jump to spawn bunch of shadows => spam Rend in Smoke bomb => trigger Cascades for Dagger Dance and mana refund

[raven wave]

the multishot one is so miserable

[flint turret]

thats pretty much what im playung but no sd

check if tabi shots apply sd

if they do its gonna be fine

not like uber-fine just fine

[flint turret]

i still have hopes for it with shuriken slams

[serene crane]

nah, just extra dodge, shadows, no move for Rend and the damage for Shadows... I'll just stick to Zerrick for the crit multi

[flint turret]

have you tried it

if bow shots apply sd its big

[serene crane]

Nope, I barely started lvling the character before going back to playing Bleed bladestorm

[flint turret]

well its bis for rend anyways

[lilac stump]

worth?

[raven wave]

not alot

[elder condor]

Did y’all do bladestorm with sync strike?

[lusty wagon]

corrupt time

[wary cedar]

rip first lp2

[lusty wagon]

Oh damn i have same thing on my 2 lp gloves

rip

Mine

Jet perf

[fallen whale]

corrupt just add a corrupt modifier right? does it has a chance to brick the other mod or poof the item?

[lusty wagon]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/corrupt

look this

[wary cedar]

75% it's some stats - 25% 🧱

[serene crane]

It has a chance to completly remove the legendary affixes, making it corrupted or straight up unequaipabble 😄

[lusty wagon]

look my luck for +1 all skill ❤️

[fallen whale]

💀

[lilac stump]

@terse bloom

Look at this beauty!

[lusty wagon]

is only 25% , i brick 2 items on 20 corrupt

[wary cedar]

don't you worry, it will brick when it's the most important item

[lusty wagon]

Someone want duo for Bernacle king x6 & other some good WEAVER ECO like rune prison etc?

i'm at 600/700 corrupt

[fallen whale]

the wiki was a bit confusing to me tbh, what does tier weight mean? and how do u know it is 25% a negative outcome?

[wary cedar]

tier weight is just the rarity of the affix

[lusty wagon]

positive chance is 75%

the bad outcome is 25

et the weight is the rarity for proc

[fallen whale]

ah ic

[lusty wagon]

0.01 is commun

[fallen whale]

it is clear right there but I overlooked

[lusty wagon]

1 is rare

[serene crane]

Always corrupt, never look back

[lusty wagon]

tell me if i'm wrong

[fallen whale]

tier weight is t1 t2 t3...t7 for 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 right?

[wary cedar]

y

[terse bloom]

goddamn, nice find!

[coarse grove]

@terse bloom idk if you answer questions here but might as well ask, on your falconer chakram build, you can also go lowlife like bladedancer right? just not as good since it doesnt provide 24% dr from bladedancer tree

just trying to think how to make this thing tanky

[wary cedar]

my dmg is so arse lmao

[lusty wagon]

guys tell me the ways for fast up the corrupt this season pls

i want rush 1k5 fast

[lusty wagon]

hmm

[daring blade]

Wish the multiplier were higher, but you could still pick up throwing damage and speed

[daring blade]

I've decided to ignore defense past some basics and just stack damage to the moon. Dead things can't kill you.

[coarse grove]

yeah that is a no go for me having this under the character name in menu

[daring blade]

Oh, yeah nvm lol

[coarse grove]

prob eventually just gonna respec to lowlife with bladedancer

falconer just offers no defenses

[serene crane]

Can always keep it as a fuel for Gauntlet of Strife to reroll other 3LP with bad rolls If the slam fails

[daring blade]

I think it has some armor and block support, doesn't it?

[coarse grove]

it is not comparable to 24% dr

[daring blade]

Could also gamble with corruption

[daring blade]

Debatable. Going for a life build enables endurance, and you can get 30% hp as endurance easily without gear.

[serene crane]

True 😄 I wonder If you can still sacrifice corrupted unique as a fuel in that echo 🤔

[daring blade]

I kind of doubt it

[coarse grove]

there is no way 3k life (which is late game) with endurance is comparable to 7k sustained ward with lots of generic dr

its not even close

[flint turret]

0lp cascade

[serene crane]

You could even go for Concentration from MM for another 10%... but depends ofc

[flint turret]

i agree, life is much tankier

[coarse grove]

let me see how many pure life builds alive on ladder in hc xd

[serene crane]

Alright that goes pretty hard... well If SD wont go too well, I guess I can always swap to another thing anyway, thats easy enough to do

[flint turret]

dunno how thats relevant but okay

[serene crane]

Night's Aproach in Rend shouldnt really mess up Unending Twilight, right? 🤔

[flint turret]

im using both

and betrayal too

[daring blade]

If you can get to regular Abby and get a seed helm, you can have 40% max life as endurance threshold, plus half of endurance applying to some degree of mana shield.

The biggest draw to endurance is that it's a huge multiplier for your healing.

[cyan wren]

Another potent 40 Ubers. This time got 11 Balls.

[serene crane]

ah alright... If I get the nodes right, you want Shadows to be 6m away from you for the respawn chance, so their movement from Betrayal pretty much maxes the distance?

[flint turret]

yeah

[serene crane]

Roll them all over Nemesis towers

[flint turret]

im not a fan of the aiming ai tho

especially on omens

[cyan wren]

shieeee... idk if i wanna do that, i remember the odds are pretty horrendous on these balls.

[serene crane]

Still better than straight up corrupting them, no? 🤔

[crimson latch]

Send planner

[flint turret]

import ragulol \ ragulrend

[daring blade]

Unless you're MG there's literally no disadvantage to running them through the nemesis system

[solar merlin]

Yo guys, does burning dagger scale with cinder strike nodes like "inferno"?

[cyan wren]

im MG. They sell pretty good rn thats why im cautious.

[serene crane]

Burning Daggers is like its own skill, Inferno buffs only Cinder Strike

[solar merlin]

i c, thank you! then i guess oil coating is the path to go on cinder strike tree after the dagger nodes

pretty confusing as those damage nodes work on ailments from the tree unless it's specified as "on hit"

and apparently not on subsequent skills

[daring blade]

Most multipliers on a skill apply to all triggered sub skills. Idk that specific case, but fyi

[flint turret]

most of the time they dont

[zenith bridge]

damn

[flint turret]

do you think multishot can be better wihout shurikens?

[zenith bridge]

you mean the corrupted affix?

[flint turret]

yeah

im yet to try multishot rend seriously but i feel like shuri is a requirment

[zenith bridge]

i mean, what does the shuriken proc on crit do for us?

we only used it for armour, and thats direct use now

[flint turret]

damage

[zenith bridge]

dmg with shurikens?

[flint turret]

and clear in omens since multishot has limited pierce

yes

[zenith bridge]

my tooltip on mm for shurikens says 1k dmg, why dmg with shurikens on a bow build?

[flint turret]

because they scale of mourningfrost+dragonfang even if dont go full throw

and smoke too

[zenith bridge]

i dont play with mourning or dragonfang

[flint turret]

maybe going full throw with using multishot just as trigger is even better idea i need to explore it

well then there are no skills to add to rend-multishot-smoke really

[zenith bridge]

i play self cast

no rend

[flint turret]

u done with rend?

[zenith bridge]

yep

[serene crane]

The last video felt depressing... 😄

[coarse grove]

i saw multiple showcases of this build and the geenral consensus is that it looks better on paper

but when you actually play the build its very meh

im talking shadow rend + multishot shadow maxxing

[serene crane]

Sounds like almost every build I try to do... 😄

[spark burrow]

has been done alrdy :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIYWiQGUoRY
from this chinese build
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZ3O2OpV
https://www.caimogu.cc/post/2338246.html

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (63) / Marksman (13) / Falconer (10)

General:

▸ Health: 3,348, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 205.51, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 30%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 23 Dex / 15 Int / 15 Att / 23 Vit
▸ Resistances: 89% / 64% / 64% / 73% / 72% / 81% / 85%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 57%, Threshold: 1,172
▸ Dodge Chance: 71% (3955)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 53% (3,509)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 67%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 70%

Used skills:

Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades / Smoke Bomb / Shadow Rend / Shift

[low quiver]

so i took the node flow which give life gain on hit but peka of the mountain doesnt allow leech from crit somehow im steel gaining health does it mean gain on hit differ from leech?if the answer is yes since im playing a low life build that benefit from death's door + architecht of astral blood, did i jsut brick my set up by gaining life on hit from the flow node?

[spark burrow]

Im playing it, its rlly good

using prim ring to stack lot of set bonuses, like doppel

[flint turret]

sadge

[serene crane]

Its Fire cascade tho, not really shadow daggers?

[spark burrow]

both

its exactly what u described tho "spawn bunch of shadows => spam Rend in Smoke bomb => trigger Cascades for Dagger Dance and mana refund", getting all throw multipliers and sd too

and using tabi too

I use attached explo trap instead of shift since we use smoke as traversal

[flint turret]

rend have specific SD nodes, its a different thing

[serene crane]

Mmmm, I guess so yea 🤔 Ive only done planner so far as an idea, only with full set items, nothing crafted and the unique ring and nodes for SD in Rend... should be fine enough for the start I guess, but surely far from what SMK has

that ward on shadow goes hard tho

[spark burrow]

I leveled the rogue yesterday, used this build from 51, as soon as u get the doppel set its working

bit scuffed on mana but its comes online rlly quick

u are basically invulnerable and u can tank any hit with the ward (u dodge 99% of the time tho) and u offscreen everything

[low quiver]

so all the rogue i have a question... which one is better'?to take the "once" notable from the blade dancer tree or the concentration node from the marksman tree?

since the concentration effect has no indicator im not so sure if im having it or na

[serene crane]

Its automatically on, you wont see any icon but when you get hit, you get a blue icon which is like a cooldown before Concentration becomes active again

[ornate nexus]

Looks like this. The indicator that concentration is on cooldown

[low quiver]

hmmm

interesting

[serene crane]

yea the mana will be probably rough at the start, I'll just grab Rend with SD and mana nodes first, Smoke for traversal before doing acrobatics around with Cascade and Massacre; should be good enough to delete anything in the campaign anyway

[cyan wren]

Uber carry.

170% life so cant 1 shot.

[spark burrow]

now do this with smthing else than falco umbral recall

[cyan wren]

no reason.

[spark burrow]

and it will be impressive

well that would give u a reason to flex

seems like u are into that

[cyan wren]

Well this build needs precise timing to pull the 1 shot. Idk why u so mad.

We are not allowed to brag about a simple game?

[spark burrow]

Im not, I just saw all ur posts

[serene crane]

I'd say throw 5 points in Once especially If you play SD and slowly go for Concentration... its pretty nice thing to have, more dodge to keep the buff up more

[spark burrow]

and find it funny

[cyan wren]

No reason to be cranky.

[low quiver]

at this point i got hit quiete often,ill put point to it when i can dodge more

[cyan wren]

I help people here.

[spark burrow]

Ty man.

[cyan wren]

you're welcome.

[spark burrow]

and helping isn't enough for the recognition you chase ?

[cyan wren]

Arent u that gouli guy who duos with Arrowli in wow pvp?

[spark burrow]

no bro

[cyan wren]

Maybe not. Mb. Anyways I see you being very angry rn so I"ll leave it to you.

[spark burrow]

🙂

Im not, I just find attention seekers pathetic tbf

[serene crane]

a bit sad this didnt get any change at all... maybe one day 😄

[fallow verge]

Hey TriKster did you think ignite heartseeker can be good this season with wildfire ? ^^ i really like this skill but season i take 12 min to kill uby with cold heartseeker reign of winter and mourning and a very good gear 🥹

[serene crane]

Shift in that build looks kinda weird ngl... have you by any chance tried Decoy instead? With so much dodge from the Dusk stacks, it should give pretty nice crit multi

[spark burrow]

Not yet, but explo trap isn't doing much (still not using fire cascade and fire sceptre tho) so there is a free skill slot for sure. just using unspec decoy rn

I started yesterday the char, will give other filler skills more testing for sure

tried bladestorm but manual refresh sucks

[steady cypress]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/shadow-rend-bladedancer-guide

[spark burrow]

not many options tho, acid flask on hit seems meh, shift for additional cleansing but mess with smoke cd..

decoy might be it

[steady cypress]

the build in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIYWiQGUoRY&lc=UgzM12j7DNIcFcYHSk94AaABAg.AV-LEL59GP4AV-aTmJBw_o appeared on maxroll :)))

[spark burrow]

ahah lizard did it

smone showed him on stream

fr it was coming

its the best build w zdps balista and falco recall

[serene crane]

Could be nice with some node to spawn Bladestorm when Smoke Bomb ends or something... but well, unlucky 😄 I thought about using Bladestorm too with the purely SD build since I'd be ine Smoke Bomb almost all the time, but all that mana... probably not worth it

[spark burrow]

I wish we could ve an auto bladestorm pop on shadow or smthing, like the old umbral

but EHG wants active gameplay smhow

[serene crane]

there is cleanse on smoke bomb so I dont really see the point of Shift... mana sustain should be fine and there is no Umbral recalling anyway

[spark burrow]

true

[serene crane]

Meanwhile you can play Bladestorm with the relic that throws Explo traps which throws Acid Flasks

[spark burrow]

Well Lizard took explo trap for his maxroll build too

guess thats defo the play

make sense with the fire pen stacking

[serene crane]

Yeee

[zenith bridge]

i tested wildfire real quick on heartseeker. The ignite numbers next to the main target are still the same as before. So basically nothing changed

the spread is a bit faster, but the dmg numbers the same. Better single target, but same clear speed

[fallow verge]

Okk thank you :/

[spark burrow]

That means that I can get a proper loot filter now 🥳

[serene crane]

I'll still stick to the physical SD and see how it goes

[terse bloom]

https://youtu.be/SZiV4yq33ik

[pine hatch]

FK I just played Falconer for 6 hours

[rocky nova]

nice music in the background, had the exact same song open on my playlist so i was confused why i was hearing it twice 😄

[serene crane]

Has anyone tried channeled Cascade since its 30mana now instead of 50? 😄

[terse bloom]

found it this earlier week and haven't stopped playing it since

[ornate nexus]

Heartseeker should be fine for levelling at 50 without reign of winter right? My scuffed-ass puncture build is getting annoying to play.

[tepid marlin]

QQ: does stuff like "increased damage while wielding a dagger" affect ailment damage?

[cyan wren]

Yes.

[tepid marlin]

Thanks! Then I assume something like the duelist passive node also affects ailments right

[cyan wren]

if it says increased dmg it affects all dmg.
if its physical then only bleed.

etc..

[serene crane]

Yea, but Id say there are better places to use the points

[flint turret]

okay i guess thats my plan for uber. need couple of slams to land https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oN2XNqe5

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 97

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (79) / Falconer (14)

General:

▸ Health: 3,666, Regen: 23.58/s
▸ Mana: 201.99, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 12%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 6 Str / 10 Dex / 6 Int / 14 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 125% / 110% / 100% / 112% / 25% / 35% / 65%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 63%, Threshold: 1,363
▸ Dodge Chance: 16% (512)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 36% (1,861)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 2%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Smoke Bomb / Shadow Cascade / Explosive Trap / Umbral Blades

[heavy canopy]

Been off the game for abit. Started heartseeker rogue om hc cuz i just love bow skills. Is maxroll guide the cold variant a viable choice? Or better follow 1 of the top players i saw some guy called thai is doing something with cinderstrike and heartseeker a better choice?

[flint turret]

then i go multishot shuriken crafting

[tepid marlin]

Thanks. I've been trying a frostbite acid flask with the nerfs, hopefully the new bladestorm unique and skill nodes help that

[crimson latch]

i hate how falconer has been strong for 4 season and MM just sucks so bad.

[cyan wren]

Thats what i been saying. There was a season they said Falconer is finally dead but turned out its top of eco system again.

They just cant nerf this bird guy enough.

Im building currency for the Rend build. That looks like the most fun build this season.
Infinite shadows are so POE.

[balmy flame]

Does anyone know if there is a way to combine the kuzons set with the dancing strikes shuriken build? Kuzons set seems super nice with the points to dancing strikes, but would be a big dps loss to have shurikens doing bleed / phys pen, and everything else doing fire

[obtuse ledge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb67n30jCpU this looks unethical

[heavy canopy]

Newbie question. https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/ThaiiThaiiYoYo/character/ThaiiGoAgain this persons build says explosive trap and heartseeker are linked. So 1 procs the other. Can someone explain how? I dont read any nodes on the skill itself that does something.

[grand oasis]

this is a good and fun item

bladestorm doing everything xd

[rocky nova]

The cold variant is better for hardcore due to better survivability. (but still quite squishy)

[heavy canopy]

Yeah i figured they are squisy but its okay. Dont tend to get super far usually but love archers. That link i send. Feels its not a real heartseeker build but it spams bladestorm i think right?

[rocky nova]

I don't see a link?

The heartseeker cold variant is really fun and quite strong, i played it on hardcore last season, got to like 1k corruption

most of your damage is actually icicles though, not heartseeker itself

[rugged night]

I’m trying to make a Cinder Strike/Heartseeker Bow build

Cinder Strike started out pretty weak but I’m impressed with how it’s scaling with better gear

[flint turret]

how does budget bladestorm shurikens work on uber?

[solar gyro]

What are the key nodes to take for uberoth on bladestorm shuriken build?

[rocky nova]

pierce -> crit multi

Tbh uber abby is just a skill check as bladestorm shuriken, dps is more than good enough even with pretty mid gear

[wary cedar]

700
4

so i just booted up my legacy character to do some corruption because of shit and giggles aaand

[crimson latch]

is not with heartseeker is with the relic, when he cast bladestorm it procs

[crimson latch]

also he uses heartseeker as buff stacks flat fire dmg and with 0 mana cost he regain mana with the rogue node

[jagged sedge]

Which unique can I use on rings as bladedancer

aside from red ring which I don't have

[serene crane]

You can get a crab ring

Or the Temu red rings

[jagged sedge]

what are the temu red rings

[cyan wren]

Siphon are best before red rings no?

or it at least it seems like it has lots of fitting melee stats.

nvm it leeches.

if u low life u dont want that.

[serene crane]

Heirloom of the Last Nomad

[cyan wren]

Just do Exalted with CD bases + attribute.

Exalted CD + Attribute Base ring + sealed mod = 5 usefull stats + corrupt.

[wary cedar]

crab

[flint turret]

we also have the giga gamba ring now with decent base stats

[jagged sedge]

dunno which one that is

[flint turret]

couple of decent corruptions on it can make it giga attribute stick or whatever

[serene crane]

That might get a bit more work to drop it and then get some good stuff from corruptions tho

[flint turret]

observer has 100% chance to drop it, on cof you get couple

[serene crane]

Sounds good then, hopefully Ill get to it today

[coral tundra]

@flint turret I gonna try to mix both build (mine and yours) i craft this to try it xd

[flint turret]

noice

[sage canyon]

ds/cascade as predicted 100+ mil dps 9 sec dummy kill on budget

[flint turret]

dam, rend cascade 30s on a 0-1 lp

which setup did you use?

ds-sync spam as before?

[jagged sedge]

I hate these elusive boots

Never seen em

Mercurial Razorfall

[cyan wren]

Razorfall is very rare for natty drop.

[sage canyon]

yes

[sage canyon]

its much lower dmg but way tankier and offscreen imo rend better

[jagged sedge]

got em right when I said this lmao

this universe got jokes

no LP though

oh well

we go again

[cyan wren]

lol. I mean its not that rare if ur cof and spam shoes.

now imprint it and it drops like candy.

[jagged sedge]

imprint it where?

[cyan wren]

on the woven Tree.

[jagged sedge]

lost caches?

[serene crane]

Weaver tree, its quite nice way to get some extra stuff

[cyan wren]

like this.

[jagged sedge]

?

[serene crane]

I got 2LP Razorfall yesterday... just with 4dex roll... but still, not gonna play that god forsaken class, so I guess I'll have to slam 2x t7, succesfully corrupt them and then vendor them to bring me some good luck

[jagged sedge]

just got 2 LP traitors fang

with 2 dex

but i got nothing to slam it with lol

[jagged sedge]

it is actually crazy how much + throwing damage increases shuriken damage

I got a few lucky ones and my damage skyrocketed

[serene crane]

When then double Shuriken shield starts cutting through a pack of mobs...

yumyum

[hexed snow]

Not good enough for pinnacle bosses but I'm done with Aberroth with my first time trying BD in any season /planner/A14R2YLe

[coral tundra]

Shadows are like minions or not ? 🙂

[hexed snow]

shadows are shadows

[coral tundra]

kk ty 🙂

[jagged sedge]

how often do you guys corrupt items? I'm scared to lol

[hexed snow]

i only do it if i have a replacement i can use

[jagged sedge]

yeah I do the same

[coral tundra]

Same

[cyan wren]

Temu omni.

[serene crane]

Damn, give me that thing

[hexed snow]

so can you keep rerolling the oculus as many times as u want or does it have a specific number of times it can be corrupted

[covert cairn]

depends if you can replace, if you really can't dont.

most corruptions are not that good, some are good such as on weapons.

[flint turret]

hmmmmm

[hexed snow]

you also a fire bladedancer & shadow cascade?

[flint turret]

yes

[serene crane]

My guess is you can hit the one where its no longer equipabble?

[naive saddle]

Falconer up and running, we cookin' 🫡

[placid fox]

Is the dragonsong/heartseeker build dead?

[jagged sedge]

is it bad that I skipped the campaign

just to do monos

ok so campaign apparnetly gives +2 to all attributes

[heavy canopy]

Hey ye i figured so he just casts heartseeker to regain mana. But he is only casting bladestorm for dmg

[jagged sedge]

Guess I gotta do that

[serene crane]

I think if you open the map, in the left bottom corner there should be a number how many skill points you got from side quests, thats probably it

[lusty wagon]

how i can have set item with stat ? farm omen for drop withh corrupt?

or its weaver echo?

[hexed snow]

looks like a corrupted set effect

same as my chest piece

it's sealed, and can exist alongside other sealed affixes

[lusty wagon]

where u drop ur set item like thhis? pls

[hexed snow]

i got lucky with a rune of corruption putting the set effect onto my chest, but if you rune of corruption the set piece and it turns into an item, you can shatter it to get the shard for that set effect

[lusty wagon]

for this i need corrupted the set item ?

and pray for t7 ?

i dont understand

[hexed snow]

you can corrupt the set item, hopefully turning into a normal item with the set effect added - if it's a good roll then keep that piece (like in my screenshot).

otherwise, shatter it and you get the shard for that set instead

[lusty wagon]

i Never play a build withh set item in LE

[hexed snow]

when you shatter a normal item that has a set affix on it, you get a "set shard"

like this:

you can put set shard, like normal crafting, onto a piece of gear that it can be put on, and that item will then give the set effect

[lusty wagon]

oH TY

[hexed snow]

So here's the set shard for Jormun's Feast (I used a Rune of Corruption on Jormun's Feast which is a Set-item Sword).

I can place this set shard in the prefix slot of a normal sword (because they are both onehanded swords).

now that the Set Shard is added as a prefix, it now contributes to the set effect

You can see it went from a regular purple exalted sword to a green one, since it's now part of the set.

[lusty wagon]

thanks for explains

[fallen whale]

sry how do zhp ballista falconer deal with dot beside not stepping on the barely visible ground effect?

[glacial osprey]

hey guys does anyone has a planner for the build this guy is using? or a similar one?

[serene crane]

beyondplan / Juse
probably best bet

[glacial osprey]

ty 😄

[wary cedar]

you dont need to be sry

[low vector]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/AXCXX/character/Axcxx-a

Just check this website

u can check whole ladder there

didnt think that build is still viable good to know huh

[glacial osprey]

oh dang ty thats exactly what i was looking for

[low vector]

u can even see his weaver tree on there to check which exalted item bases he is farming and stuff

[wary cedar]

it's sad that most builds are op because it's just unbalanced and not because of god tier items

[low vector]

Every arpg ever and that's not really a problem

Playing zHP Ballista to push corruption might sound "cool" but it's just not fun for 99.99% of the playbase and you're not really "gaining" anything by doing that since this game is mostly SSF (COF)

Meta switches, things that break the game are fun

[wary cedar]

i feel like most people just take the dumb op stuff lol

[low vector]

and tbh any class can get to 2k corruption, at that point you literally finished the game already

[low vector]

Why would that matter to you tho? this game is basically just a singleplayer game

[wary cedar]

if you think so

[low vector]

I dont think there's a single class that can't do pretty much all content

in 3-4 days if you play a lot ez pz

[lusty wagon]

damn

[low vector]

only 4% of the playbase is playing falconer and it's by far the best pushing class, at the same time it's the least fun build in the game I can think of xdd

[velvet bridge]

Game is trolling me 😡

[serene crane]

How the numbers have turned from 1.2... 😄

[covert cairn]

i like my uber one shot haha

[hexed snow]

im jus chillin with my fire bladedancer, might swap over to phys if i can find the right pieces

[wary cedar]

did you ask for consent first?

[covert cairn]

😛 nope

The falconer is the only reason I made a new character to one shot uber and clear some echos can do abut 600 or so at most... but good enough

[wary cedar]

i switched back to legacy lmao

[covert cairn]

haah why

[wary cedar]

i went for the same build i did in S2
this time i tried with the new corrupted afixes and stuff, and i was at point where i would need to turbo grind to get my build going

then i just hopped on legacy to do some quick corrupts just for the lols

and i hit the exact corrupt affix i needed on a lp3 bow

[covert cairn]

nice, yeah. But the grind for anything new like exalts etc is rough... I am still using past league stuff to build characters.

[wary cedar]

and farming for the same item i already have gotten lucky once felt wrong so i just continue to play it there xd

[stable quiver]

How is Heart Seeker? I was thinking about tinkering with the Khuzon helmet + legends entwined and doing stuff with Burning Daggers.

[covert cairn]

such an insane corrupt

[wary cedar]

you can try, the moment you scrawl back here crying you do no dmg we will tell you the way

amen

[covert cairn]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Vuthia/character/slicer

Build is done, I dont think I will get a 4LP traitor to slam my 3t7 dagger into. So, I am calling this final build.

[wary cedar]

yep, it will take hours to get that on my season character, so i continue legacy

still need a lot of grinding there, i basically have no survivabilty, but i have an idea already for zhp build

and also i need to build the shurikens i can now cast

[wary cedar]

uber items and not even lv 100 xd
no long term goal with that class lol

[covert cairn]

exciting I hope you GL on slams and enough LP items and exalts to finish it all. It's short supply.

[covert cairn]

haha, yeah good gear still. but I ran out of exalts and LP items to do anymore, so nothing is corrupted. Doesnt need it.

[coral tundra]

@flint turret Thanks for the inspiration, I finally defeated Uber Abberoth ! 😄

[covert cairn]

huge Nath

[coral tundra]

Thx mate !

[wary cedar]

i always keep my best dropped exalted for imprinting

[covert cairn]

imprint is busted, doesnt work except 1t7 or 1LP items. I imprinted 4t7s and 4Lp boots and nothing.

[wary cedar]

ya it got nerfed hard

i havent tried that much with multiple exalted affixes yet, but i do on my legacy character now, maybe i will see something one day

[flint turret]

nice!

[covert cairn]

maybe if they fix it next season.. if not dead. Literally jack on drops

but as of now, drops are pretty bad favor is tough to get.

[wary cedar]

maybe we all need to do a zhp ballista build to push 30k corruption or something to get good drops again

[covert cairn]

never did that meta haha

if you do omen of veil or any content that is new... it gives zero favor and zero resonance, even with all the monster spawns

so only way to get favor is to kill non new content monsters and since troves are dead...... echos get boring

[bold brook]

has anyone messed around with kuzon dancing strikes + wildfire embers yet? I don't think the wisps are throwing shurikens when copying dancing strikes

[desert bridge]

Wisps only copy fire skills so that tracks

[bold brook]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message the wisps should be copying dancing strikes which is fire, and the dancing strikes throws shurikens

[desert bridge]

Huh, could be unlucky and they aren't copying 2nd and 4th strke, or could be bugged

[ebon python]

not playing ballista myself but this looks decent?

the ballista mod

[cyan oriole]

dwweaver tree

[ebon python]

Uh what do you mean

[finite arch]

rip

but we hit

[lime holly]

does dex increase damage dealt by poison?

[serene crane]

Nemesis into at least 1LP, slam it (BAM!), Corrupt it (BAM!), +1 to skills corruption (BAM!BAM!BAM!)

[serene crane]

Mmmmm, nope

[lime holly]

why is poison so ass

bleed at least can be scaled a bit

poison just costs extra points for convertions on every skill and it still sucks

[wary cedar]

corrupt it and get "-> minimum roll all affixes"

would look so funny

[tidal cliff]

Folks, does Shadow Daggers damage scale in any way with the skills which trigger the daggers? Presumably not, right?

[finite arch]

ill put in nemisis first then corrupt

[wary cedar]

@finite arch btw is switched characters now xd

[serene crane]

Nope, unless the skills gives you some kind of buff that affects anything

like this

[finite arch]

oh to what?

[wary cedar]

to my legacy heartseeker character lmao

i ll continue grinding there xd

[finite arch]

oh what da

you done with the league already

[serene crane]

Yea idk... the only build I can think of is the poison bee build, maybe some acid flask falconer? And even those might be questionable? 😄

[wary cedar]

i got on legacy to do some yolo corruptions on my gear there

and i hit a realy good bow

trying to get the same one in league would take me so many hours
and i just could not motivate myself to get the same weapon again just because it's "in league"

i still have to grind a lot of items there

[finite arch]

i might try bladestorm

[wary cedar]

no stay with me on heartseeker <3

we gotta stay strong

[finite arch]

im just getting 1 shot man

its annoying

[wary cedar]

show me how you look

(your current build)

[tidal cliff]

Sure, because this increases all my physical damage, not "damage of shadow cascade is increased" :)

[serene crane]

Yea

[finite arch]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QeYJdGGn

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 97

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (73) / Falconer (2)

General:

▸ Health: 1,645, Regen: 27.8/s
▸ Mana: 113.21, Regen: 8.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 25%, Regen: 60/s
▸ Attributes: 20 Str / 59 Dex / 6 Int / 6 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 86% / 0% / 51% / 76% / 56% / 113% / 60%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 457
▸ Dodge Chance: 16% (501)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (735)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Shurikens / Smoke Bomb / Dark Quiver / Heartseeker / Puncture

[finite arch]

still havent found chest and ammy

[wary cedar]

what you going for there?

[finite arch]

well i want +lvl for hs with health/res and ammy with spell dmg/crit multi and hp/res

[wary cedar]

i mean in terms of uniques

[wary cedar]

also i considered three quivers when planning my heartseekers but i never consideres Crystalwind xd

[finite arch]

oh im just following dragonsong guide

[wary cedar]

never saw one lol

[tidal cliff]

Overall I'm quite confused about throwing attacks, I have to say. Melee damage on weapons shouldn't affect them the way I'm reading their tooltips (e.g. Bladestorm, Umbral Blades), right? But unlike those two skills, the Shadow Dagger "explosion" DOES scale with Melee damage, right, because the tooltip says so, ...so it double dips into both Melee and Throwing, and makes use of the melee weapon +dmg, unlike e.g. Bladestorm and UB.

[finite arch]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/marksman-dragonsong-master

[sharp raven]

Marksman Dragonsong Master Build Guide

Game Version

Season 2: Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class

Rogue / Marksman

Used skills

• Heartseeker
• Puncture
• Shurikens
• Smoke Bomb
• Decoy

Used unique items

• Peak of the Mountain
• Crystalwind
• Flames of Midnight
• Ashes of Mortality
• Immolator's Oblation
• Mourningfrost
• Dragonsong
• Julra's Obsession
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros
• Throne of Ambition

Tags

Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer / Ranged

Created by lucidd · May 22, 2025, 5:56 AM

[wary cedar]

[finite arch]

yea

cba making a build

[wary cedar]

i also use dragonsong in my current build tho, but i dont go to heavily in spell dmg

[wary cedar]

cba?

[finite arch]

cant bother asking

[wary cedar]

@finite arch what corr you running atm?

[finite arch]

huh?

corr

[wary cedar]

corruption

[finite arch]

oh. just hit 300 but cant kill abber

[wary cedar]

ya i was at this point as well, when i hit 400 corr enemies started to feel tankier again on my league character

[main beacon]

What's a good way to farm rift beast materials in the current season? I skipped season 3 so I'm new to the rift beast stuff. I assume it mostly just comes down to imprinting the rift beast woven echo?

[wary cedar]

definitely skill it in the weaver tree

and i feel like the echo chains or whatever they sre called are good for them

[main beacon]

For sure. I'll definitely do that when I get the points. I'm still at regular monos

Ohh yeah true I can choose rift beast echo chains after I beat the omens

[wary cedar]

about the waever echos idk how good they are havent tried them yet

in S3 my character never went that far needing something from it so i m also tryingstuff out

[main beacon]

I'm definitely gonna try it out
I need a chest piece for the shrunken bladestorm build I'm playing so

[wary cedar]

the astral blood thing?

[low vector]

They really had to kill Umbral blades falconer.. It was so fun to play.

[halcyon shale]

is it really dead? I just saw a YT where a guy is playing a recall umbral blades falconer and hes doing 1.2k corruption. This is a build I really wanted to play but I dont think you can level it [havent been able to find a leveling guide]

[low vector]

I'm talking about the classic umbral blades build which doesn't exist anymore

The ability got deleted

Recall umbral blades is basically a fully different skill mechanically and visually

[low vector]

https://youtu.be/e-9htH0gLn8?t=258

This one

[halcyon shale]

Ahhh ok this is the vid I just watched
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZiV4yq33ik

[low vector]

Yeah that skill works very differently

A lot more clunky

Old one you never had to press umbral, you'd use aerial assault with razor boots

• The umbral blades turned into bladestorms and auto tracked targets

[daring blade]

Is T4 Julra still a good benchmark for a build, or is she old news? I instantly deleted her yesterday.

[low vector]

Most builds just shred her tbh

without swapping button thingy

[halcyon shale]

Ah ok I was super hyped that it might be still viable but I guess not. I really wanted to play the falconer build but now im sad lol. No build looks fun

[daring blade]

I'm playing falconer and loving it

[low vector]

If you don't mind recall then that's good

[daring blade]

I run bladestorm/shurikens/explosive trap/acid flask/falcon.

[low vector]

havent tried acid flask but

Explosive trap is still very strong but needs lots of mana regen gear to work

Ballista is very strong but needs t7 belt mod and lots of + lvls or it will feel really bad

but with gear those two are insane

Just need to be fine with being zHP

[daring blade]

Yeah I just got 2xt7 mana cost reduction on my rings

[low vector]

For bladestorm? ye thats big

[daring blade]

So the storms toss out explosive traps which sometimes toss acid flasks, and my bird does so too.

And they have shurikens ofc

[low vector]

Oh that version

I was talking about ballista explosive trap loop setup

That thing drains infinite mana

ive 35.2 mana regen and it's still not enough

[daring blade]

Ah yeah, nah I haven't bothered with ballista

[low vector]

explosive trap ballista feels amazing it's basically just a rain of arrows build

with auto aim

doesnt feel like a ballista build at all

[daring blade]

But I've seen some 200k acid flask crits on regular enemies

[low vector]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuYN9y0YSf0&t=1s

last season video

but

plays 1:1 the same nothing really changed

[daring blade]

Yeah I briefly ran that one season

[low vector]

Yeah its good but mana is a little annoying

mana regen in this game just sucks tbh

[low vector]

not bad, what corruption u at?

i crit for 300k ish on regular enemies atm

[daring blade]

I'm just at like 350. I haven't been pushing yet. Been trying to shore up some stuff, like finishing the harbingers.

[low vector]

i see :v im sitting at 900 not sure what else to do

[wary cedar]

how the fck do i get this item?
i did read it but i understand nothing

[daring blade]

I have some clear improvements left to make in the build. I have a 2LP traitor's with no suitable dagger I want to slam yet.

[low vector]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCsCYDZSA

[daring blade]

Isn't that from gambling at soulfire?

[low vector]

lastepochtools is best to find out stuff

[wary cedar]

i said i read it, but i dont understand it

[low vector]

Oh the picture u send didn't have the "obtained from" section

So I assume you didnt have that info

[wary cedar]

because i already read it lol

[eager mason]

you do the dungeon

[daring blade]

Just buy amulets with the soulfire currency

[eager mason]

and gamble amulet

[wary cedar]

no, i mean i was just wondering if you can get it from the woven echo as well ?

[low vector]

Then clear dungeon and gamble yes

[eager mason]

there is also a woven echo for it

soul foundry

[wary cedar]

i did like 9 of them and didnt get any

[low vector]

unlucky thats all

[wary cedar]

why god hates me so much

[low vector]

cuz ur a little toxic

[serene crane]

iirc the first item you buy will be unique... just not sure If from the dungeon or echo

[flint turret]

i made couple of planner attempts but none in-game yet

[low vector]

bruh I just noticed I dont have to press any abilities on my explosive trap build

[daring blade]

I'm trying to stick with life builds and wondering where I ought to end up with my sole primal item. Right now I'm using the dagger, but I got a 2LP crit lens. I don't think it's an improvement though over the dagger, because I don't have much pen from elsewhere.

Another option is a 2LP relic that boosts +skills.

This is me rn: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ozwY4Npe

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 99

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Rogue (24) / Bladedancer (25) / Falconer (63)

General:

▸ Health: 1,423, Regen: 22.86/s
▸ Mana: 176.7, Regen: 10.48/s
▸ Attributes: 4 Str / 48 Dex / 9 Int / 4 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 218% / 41% / 165% / 72% / 46% / 120% / 52%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 72%, Threshold: 456
▸ Dodge Chance: 15% (493)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (523)
▸ Block Chance: 3%, Mitigation: 19% (220)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 5%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Shurikens / Explosive Trap / Falconry / Bladestorm / Acid Flask

[daring blade]

I know there's some cleanup to be done in my skills and resistances. Haven't gotten around to it yet.

[flint turret]

uber down on 1 lp rend no reforged items

took onli like 3 tries

[crimson latch]

send PLANNER ASAP RAGUGOD

[solar gyro]

What’s the most efficient way to farm Omnis?

[flint turret]

ill upload to y\t you can import for now

ragulol \ ragulrend

[crimson latch]

Also is not DS bldestorm the best version? or the maxroll version is also good?

[eager mason]

I was thinking phys instead

[flint turret]

dunno, i fust finish my lowcost rend uber project, didnt have much time to do anything else. i think im gonna do rend multishot next

[flint turret]

phys totally works i just like the novelty

[eager mason]

gz btw

idk if I wanna play another cascade character but rend probably isnt surviving next patch

[wary cedar]

can you shotgun with shurikens?

[serene crane]

Isnt Shadow Cascade the big thing?

[eager mason]

nah spamming 7 shadows with 0 mana issues is the thing that breaks it

[crimson latch]

xD for melee? because bow MM sucks already

[serene crane]

It might still not be the best or anything great, but bleed Heartseeker with the bow corrupt that shoots shurikens might be sweet

[desert bridge]

Only if you take the node that shoots shurikens in a line, or TECHNICALLY blade shield shotguns but I wouldn't count on that one

[flint turret]

rend only op because of ward on shadow, the culpit is actually buffed cascade

have no idea why they buffed it tbh

[wary cedar]

ok so really gotta chose the line
the cone looks so cool tho

[desert bridge]

Or go for chakram and get big crit numbers, yeah

[flint turret]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PuxRRu7SFs dam hdr messed it up kinda

[eager mason]

I mean compare it to sync

[wary cedar]

does it look cool tho? xd

[eager mason]

this has no cd has 7 shadows and no mana issues

[flint turret]

sync gives 200% stackable damage increase for 4 second each cast

[desert bridge]

I think it looks cooler than shurikens, but you gotta decide that for yourself.

[flint turret]

im mostly sure sync will do the same as rend now

maybe even better

[eager mason]

3 more shadows is more damage from tree, 75% more damage and more inc from cascade mod

[ebon python]

Was browsing ladder - why are most Bladedancers running architects of astral blood

[eager mason]

compared to the inc

[desert bridge]

Low life node makes you take less damage and have more crit damage.

[flint turret]

well yeah if you roll max shadows gear tahts true

[ebon python]

Ohh that makes a lot of sense, ty

I assume kuzon set won't scale well into endgame and it's likely better to just go phys?

I love the appearance of fire DS/SC

[wary cedar]

this dude scams btw

[serene crane]

If you were a skeleton in a soul draining torture dungeon, wouldnt you scam too?

[obtuse ledge]

i'd open a brothel

[wary cedar]

15 tries no gambler unique

[serene crane]

ouch

[wary cedar]

well but i think line would acutally do more dmg because i dont directly cast it

[wary cedar]

am i doing something wrong?

😔

[serene crane]

Just unlucky I guess... idk If tier of the dungeon matters... it shouldnt? 🤔

[wary cedar]

it does, but i do the woven echos, what tier are they? xd

[ebon python]

Any tips for making Kuzon's set work?

Going fine now but I'm only in normal monos

[serene crane]

No idea tbh 😄 maybe try t4 dungeon

[wary cedar]

those dungeons are so annoying to run

[serene crane]

Yep...

[wary cedar]

and it's only 6%

bro what

[serene crane]

dis just a scratch wound

[wary cedar]

what do you guys think of the new crafting meta?

[flint turret]

havent heard about it kekw

whats the meta

[wary cedar]

like you can't really go for double t7 slams anymore since imprints are what they are now

[flint turret]

ah, so nothing changed for me basically

i havent used double exalt for slam ever kekw

[wary cedar]

i really loved being able to chase big items like that

[flint turret]

i like like it more now i think

slammin' 1lps and corrupting feelsgood

[wary cedar]

but why not have both?

[flint turret]

too op i guess?

[wary cedar]

being able to 1lp slam and corrupt but as well chase big items

[wary cedar]

i think in terms of op they should focus more on some builds instead of the really late game grind no? xd

[flint turret]

nothing really prevents you from chasing items as before, its just harder but both ceiling and floor have risen

[hearty topaz]

is this any good for rogues? dropped like that

[flint turret]

i didnt like how powerful imprints were in the first place tbh

[half nova]

personally speaking theres only 1 good stat on that chest piece, you probably want to reroll the attributes on it and hope it hits something useful

[flint turret]

in previous season i was spending all favor and runes of acendancy to get tongue, and i got it first at lvl 90+ while my cof was lvl 8 already, then i just imprint and farm 5-10 daggers per hour, its just stupid

[wary cedar]

i'd say only few people played so far to even consider multiple t7 slams
so why make it so much harder for them and take away some of the fun
i mean they could nerf it, thats fine, but i didnt got any multiple exalt with imprints ever this season

i just think the nerf might be to big

[flint turret]

try asking in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs, but if i had to guess id say people didnt like it much same as i did

its too "mandatory"

[serene crane]

t7 %phys throw is nice, void res is alrighty I guess too... you might Redemption it and hope for something better tho

[wary cedar]

i mean you could not like the system behind it, but there should be a way to farm good item in late game

espacially considered that one of the big points of this game is the crafting system, so why take away the stuff to craft with?

[serene crane]

noob question about this... is it technically +108 flat to SD?

[wary cedar]

and slaming multi t7 is just more exciting

[flint turret]

i dont think i agree with your sentiment, because they expanded the crafting system by a large margin this patch if anything

[wary cedar]

didnt they just add the rune?

[flint turret]

that "just" rune changes the crafting entirely

some of the corruption affifes are basically build-changing

[wary cedar]

that's what i meant by crafting meta in the first place lmao

you also said that the imprints felt to "mandatory" by adding the Rune on top of the old imprint system you could have both and chose what you like more, or even combine it

would that not be the best way to offer somewhat different lategame grind or at least possibilities?

[serene crane]

Yea but to get them you need to get kinda lucky? And If the legendary with high LP and lucky slammed X t7s bricks... its gonna take quite long time to farm it again? Idk, could be just the "high risk high reward" king of endgame "crafting", but it can also screw you over.... buuuut I guess at that point you should prooobably have some solid backup

[flint turret]

dunno, crafting any (maybe not primordial) item 1lp is super easy in big numbers, same as making exalts to slam with havocs and creations

[plush lily]

im trying to set up the bladestorm shuiken build, can anyone help me figure out why im gaining health on a LL setup?

[elder condor]

https://youtu.be/Dc67GE0XQ0s?si=azj_OQaZbiMwI8M8 have y’all seen this

[serene crane]

got a link?

[wary cedar]

to add on my point: removing certain features by nerfing them strong when those featureds didnt hurt anybody is always imo a bad game design choice. instead of nerfing stuff and adding new stronger stuff - just add equally strong systems for endgame grind to make it more intereseting - and in terms of balancing some builds maybe need the multi exalted to be able to defeat uber in a somewhat normal time while other build do that with basically no gear - so nerfing late game crafting is something...

[plush lily]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B4Xd4lZd

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (64) / Marksman (24) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 2,223, Regen: 26.6/s
▸ Mana: 223.51, Regen: 11.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 53%, Regen: 19/s
▸ Attributes: 29 Str / 81 Dex / 19 Int / 19 Att / 19 Vit
▸ Resistances: 95% / 124% / 85% / 144% / 97% / 107% / 98%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 27%, Threshold: 445
▸ Dodge Chance: 30% (1043)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 31% (1,561)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 22%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 70%

Used skills:

Bladestorm / Shurikens / Synchronized Strike / Smoke Bomb / Shift

[plush lily]

yikes

thanks lmaooo

[serene crane]

Yea 1LPs are ezpz, but some 3-4LPs, some 2LPs like Red Ring or something

[flint turret]

thats the best part, you no longer really need 2lp, because cotrruption is often time on par or even better

[serene crane]

oh also Shift heals you for a bit... well, like 130 or so

[flint turret]

whi needs second lp if you can corrupt 1lp for +1 skills or whatever

[serene crane]

Yea fair enough... corrupting is just fun

[flint turret]

it kinda makes gear progression more fluent

[wary cedar]

i mean i never said corruption is bad 😭
i like it as well, but basically removing imprinting is bad

[flint turret]

you get 0lp, you nemesis it, it didnt get lp but got better
you corrupt it, you have a better version over nemesised
you get 1lp, you slam it, you have a better version over 0lp corrupted nemesis
you get another 1lp, you also slam it, and corrupt both, decide whih one is better and wear a better version
You can continue currupting 1lp to get a desired corruption or begin to turtle to 2lp
vs
You get 0lp, you nemesis it, it didnt get lp but got better
you get 1lp
you farm for 2lp

progression is much better

[wary cedar]

but now it's stop earlier

[serene crane]

...doppleganger set not having 3D models are criminal af

[wary cedar]

what's up with these enemies

they got no chill

[dusty olive]

Any shadow rend enjoyers, how y'all feeling with your builds?

[serene crane]

lvling SD rend+cascade now with only set items and the unique beast ring... campaign lagoon deleted in about 2 seconds and mf still went to the ads phase.... soooo, so far very good! Hopefully it lasts till some high corruption

Dusk Shroud stacks are cracked, I pretty much threw Explo Trap away and went right for Bladestorm 😄

alright I lied I still have Fighting Chance gloves and some +1skill amulet from Omen... 🙁 but few more lvls and they're gone too

nvm scratch that, I can use Last Bear gloves

[dusty olive]

Sounds similar to what I've got, have you got a planner set up? Id love to see what done others are working with

[wary cedar]

my legacy character do be eating good

[halcyon crane]

at 1k corruption and its good

[serene crane]

• Abandonded amulet at lv54
• later on craft some SD pen on body/helmet, havent checked that yet
• SD pen idols; Idol altar with increased effect of prefixes
• armor shred/bleed on Bladestorm to get more crit multi from Jormun sword
• possibly swap from axe to dagger to get SD procs from umbrals? Idk If it works tbh
• some more health in passives; Perfection probably over Concentration; Cloaked Reaper; Critical Eye 3/5; All In; Shadow Master 3/5
• maybe some more Endurance in Falconer/Bd
  https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qb6767aN

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 53

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Rogue (21) / Bladedancer (31) / Falconer (14)

General:

▸ Health: 1,348, Regen: 24.29/s
▸ Mana: 172.77, Regen: 12.08/s
▸ Ward Retention: 34%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 27 Str / 45 Dex / 17 Int / 17 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 19% / 66% / 28% / 75% / 16% / 33% / 43%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 50%, Threshold: 324
▸ Dodge Chance: 55% (1550)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 27% (686)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 49%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 58%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Smoke Bomb / Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades / Bladestorm

[flint turret]

yeah with doppel and ward on shadow creation it should push corr np. i just wanted the fire melee for style points tbh

[dusty olive]

Is shadow daggers actually a good source of damage? It's so hard to tell

[dusty olive]

Any chance you have a planner?

[serene crane]

Yea that ward value looked cracked af did you get that VFX from shop?

[flint turret]

thats default fire cascade vfx

kinda looks better than paid one

[serene crane]

So far, yea, should slowly go up aswell... its guaranteed crit, benefits both from melee+throw

[dusty olive]

I've been focusing on ramping up shadow cascade damage and it's hitting like 200k+

[flint turret]

i think you get ward on shadow regardless of phys or fire, its just too good

but doppel helm gives another huge layer

which fire cascade helm does not

for uber fire is alright because you scale 40% more armor with throne too

but for monos i think doppel is bis

[serene crane]

Technically I dont really need much from Doppel body since I run SD? extra bit of damage from Cascade daggers from Shadows I guess, but t7 SD is way better anyway... also I already have Doppel helm+relic with unique ring soooo I could maybe drop it completly

[halcyon crane]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdzJz2ve

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (79) / Falconer (14)

General:

▸ Health: 2,117, Regen: 27/s
▸ Mana: 151.73, Regen: 14.72/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 21 Dex / 10 Int / 22 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 91% / 76% / 130% / 99% / 56% / 92% / 71%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 805
▸ Dodge Chance: 20% (683)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 31% (1,544)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Shift / Shadow Rend / Smoke Bomb / Shadow Cascade / Umbral Blades

[flint turret]

do tabi bow shots apply sd?

[serene crane]

Idk, I havent tried it (Im still few lvls below Tabi)

[flint turret]

i think you wanna go discord body maybe as a primo?

[serene crane]

why should it apply SD tho?

[flint turret]

why not

its a rend shot

rend doiesnt have weapon req for sd

it should apply imo

[serene crane]

Hmmm alright I see 🤔 I'll check later ona dummy

[flint turret]

or maybe glass as primo

[crimson latch]

@flint turret whats better for map clear bd bladestorm or shadow rend fire

[flint turret]

dunno, i havent played bladestorm

rend clear is not THAT great because of the delay between rend attack ans shadow spawn, but its okay

throwing cascade rend should be better because of more range but the gear req is much higher

[dusty olive]

So I have it too from a builder i copied early on but what does umbral blades actually do for the build

[halcyon crane]

mana sustain

with shift

[dusty olive]

How is it generating mana?

thats what ive never understood

[halcyon crane]

played it earlier with a lot of mana regen and you can play without it

and this

[dusty olive]

ok so i have umbral blades but havent been using that + shift and ive had infinite mana

i seem to sustain purely through shadow cascade refunds

[halcyon crane]

it's optional, i played with the explode+shadow dagger nodes earlier on this season and it was ok

also since you'd want to stack attack speed for cascade dmg scaling, you might run out of mana while waiting for cascade to explode so it helps fill your bar

[dusty olive]

looking through im honestly not sure what else i would even specialize so i guess ill leave it on as extra damage

[left glen]

how does a low life bladedancer sustain ward mid fight? are there good ward on hit sources? or can i somehow supercharge my ward gain rate so it just slams back to full after i take damage?

i'm running into a sustain wall.

[toxic charm]

is explosive trap any good

[lilac stump]

@terse bloom worth?

[terse bloom]

I’d go 1 lp 32% but works

23% inc dam off of that ms via rogue passives

[lilac stump]

ok ty

[crimson latch]

im lv 100 and 5 days farming and only find 1 razorfall

[lilac stump]

I got this one from a random ball drop, revealed it, and it was this one lol

But I never dropped it again lol

[dusty olive]

Hmmmm, flay boots for shadow rend build? 50% more damage, melee attack speed and move speed

[crimson latch]

if you dont corrupt no balls

[dusty olive]

I will never not corrupt

Has it cost me some fantastic items? Yes.

But mama ain't raise no coward

[elder condor]

What meta build yall doing

[fading burrow]

me just zhp ballista

[elder condor]

Bruh he literally gave credit to them in video and mentioned the Chinese community https://youtu.be/Dc67GE0XQ0s?si=tpf2xKp3bzc-i-qR

[lusty wagon]

Hello , how i can have +1 shadow on glove pls ?

Just luck ? its sealed affix

[coral crow]

Champ affix for gloves so just getting a lucky t7 on glove drop from champions with the shadow affix as well

[lusty wagon]

okok ty

[coral crow]

Np

[dusty olive]

That shadow rend guide posted looks so all over the place to me lol

[cyan wren]

Failing to craft every set item. FP goes to 0 everytime before finishing.

[cyan wren]

Your shadows inherit all your crit right?

[loud arrow]

is there any build using the new skills for season 4 that doesn't depend on a million uniques from the get go? I am fine with gearing after getting to monoliths but all builds I saw is like 'this build only works with many uniques, level 100, and if the moon is on the correct place'

[cyan wren]

Bladestorm doesnt need any unique to be good while leveling.

even early mapping. Its uniques are not hard to find.

[loud arrow]

I found one build with it on letools and it's beeeees

and this one that suffers from the level thing I want to avoid https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/bladestorm-bladedancer-guide