🔪┃rogue

[blazing locust]

soo...corruption can turn it into a set lol

[carmine kelp]

its not meant to be a shadow rend built but a shuriken build, and i already have bladestorm in it, however i want to make use of the fact that there's plenty of items now that boost shadow damage, so i was only really looking at shadow rend as a shadow generator

actually it might be better if i straightup link my build planner
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BjqGekzx

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Rogue (24) / Bladedancer (75) / Marksman (5) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,506, Regen: 23.6/s
▸ Mana: 134.51, Regen: 10.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 12%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 6 Str / 23 Dex / 6 Int / 6 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 18% / 18% / 85% / 54% / 18% / 24% / 29%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 301
▸ Dodge Chance: 74% (4661)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (861)
▸ Block Chance: 27%, Mitigation: 22% (330)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 183%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 75%

Used skills:

Shurikens / Shift / Shadow Rend / Bladestorm / Smoke Bomb

[weary magnet]

You can't use shadow with bladestorm+shuriken well. Are you trying to create Shurikens with bladestorm? If you are, the node specifically says you need to remain above 50% mana in order for bladestorm to proc shuriken. Shadow Rend cost too much mana

[carmine kelp]

indeed the mana cost is the primary issue

but that's what im trying to figure out, if not shadow rend that what can i use instead? and how should i build that something

[weary magnet]

If you are using bladestorm shuriken, just continue using those 2 with other 3 skills supporting it. smoke/decoy/synchronized strike are all good. Shift for mobility

[carmine kelp]

i think ive seen Raxx use sync strike on a stream

but i'll have to find how he built it, and probably adapt that a little bit

[weary magnet]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/bladestorm-bladedancer-guide

Just follow this guide if you need help. Tweak it if needed to suit your needs.

[ashen rampart]

for 1lp tongue, do i go for phys pen or physical dmg? playing bladestorm shuriken

[north tree]

Im using the set my survival+dmg skyrocket

[gusty fox]

any good build for

shuriken maybe or something?

i'm using now

terek leveling guide

[rapid sky]

Bladedancer or Falconer for Bladestorm (70+) Endgame, not leveling ?

[finite arch]

@wary cedar hows HS?

[weary magnet]

For bladestorm specifically, blade dancer

[wary cedar]

i can play empowered now xd

still missing quite some uniques

but i got my bow today

[blazing locust]

Aiiight

[flint turret]

You rend multishoting? I just got to empowereds only and I'm still melee sadge.

[finite arch]

im struggling with t3 temp keys

its sad

[wary cedar]

haven't even tried dungeons yet, nothing to slam lol

[rocky nova]

"low life" surely does mean low xD

[royal torrent]

So with bladestorm, does that just push the rouge into a ranged character?

[rocky nova]

You can play a ranged style rogue with bladestorm yeah, also more melee oriented options with bladestorm

[royal torrent]

I would rather stay melee only but im struggling to get into a good combo with just melee

[half nova]

Just forces you to to press bladestorm button

[wraith nacelle]

Rend multi is pain at low level damage and mana cost eats you up . Ended up switching to ignite HS for now but still building rend multi gear in the background

[weary magnet]

It’s not exactly ranged. It’s close-midrange. With higher dps output at close.

Arpg in general turns melee into some sort of midrange build. With small exceptions that typically involves super high mobility/teleport.

[rocky nova]

just switched over to this dancing strikes / bladestorm / shurikens build and it's kind of insane and super comfy to play

[flint turret]

That's not really news to me, I checked it in the first minutes after the patch and went melee rend for leveling instead

[rocky nova]

playing super comfy at 550 corruption with half my resists not capped and very bad gear

[flint turret]

Mana drain is too much

[rapid sky]

which guide did you follow? trikster?

[ashen rampart]

qustion, playing bladestorm shurikens, what relic shall i use? twisted heart or the new rogue relic that makes bladestorm spawn mines?

[royal torrent]

dancing strikes is really quite good but does seem hard to control at times

[blissful juniper]

Nah just regular multishot for now, going to do rend multishot later though once I get bored.
Regular Multishot already feels amazing as soon as I got the idols + relic though, I cant imagine Rend multishot being bad atleast damage wise once you get the proper setup.

[rocky nova]

Mostly playing the same ye

[wraith nacelle]

even ounce you get a drelcor its not enough might make a break through with that later in the season but I back burned it for now . I think with min max gear it will be possible but not from bare bones as a start

[flint turret]

I see. I thought you are already rend and was gonna ask what mana tech are you using. From my testing hs with charges that you cans once every 3s was more or less okay with sapping strikes, but it only allows to somewhat spam multi in smoke

Maybe I'll try mountain boots for 0 manacost rend too

[vague cobalt]

What build are you guys playing endgame?

[flint turret]

Yeah I agree, that's why I'm still melee mm in empowereds

[blissful juniper]

I was using Rend + Multi up until level 75 but swapped to regular multishot as I felt it would just be annoying to play until I had better gear

Mountain boots might be the solution though

[flint turret]

Mountain sadly disables mourningfrost

But I might use for multishot shurikenntrigger

[wild harbor]

feel any better without the cooldown?

[royal torrent]

Never played it with the cooldown

However it is a really nice skill with the animations and movement while dealing damage. It just doesnt have great single target and is hard to deal damage to one target since it moves you away from it

You kinda have to attack through them and then stop and turn around

[wild harbor]

i see

[dapper bramble]

chat how is umbral blades

does DoT umbral work with recall rather than explosive? I like the ninja type shit fantasy

[wild harbor]

now that multiple shuriken casts can stack wonder if you can convert to chakram and then take blade shield ... then trigger it with something like dancing strikes and have a bunch of big shurikens (cough cough chakrams) circling you

cuz i dont think that part is limited to direct casts

just the buff

but the buff sucks now

[flint turret]

It's just... I want everything and I can't fit it together sadly. I would gladly mana sustain with shift+umbral recall, but then I don't have a place for hs. And I need hs to buff bow damage and throw damage for shurikens. I can drop out mourningfrost, but than again I'm loosing flat and I need to get flat corruptions on a bow instead of shurikens. Maybe I just need some mana Regen affixes and attunements conversion at the end of the day

[wide yacht]

this season made me realize how little mana sustain rogue has outside LL, shift+umbral blades

[flint turret]

Sapping strikes big

[wild harbor]

only marksman ngl

[wide yacht]

BD with dancing strikes

is unplayable

it's now very fast, and as such, your mana goes down very fast

[wild harbor]

cinder strikes with the marksman passive can give back like 50 mana per cast

[wide yacht]

yeah, lucky MM players

[flint turret]

Falconer has is much easier

[wild harbor]

17 for normal people

its rough but ye \

the best way to deal with mana on rogue is making your skills free\

[wide yacht]

but yeah, as it stands, there's many interesting playstyles and build ideas that are just dead in the water because no mana

[wild harbor]

lol

[wide yacht]

which sucks, honestly

no matter how creative you can get with your builds, if your class can't even cast

then gg

[wary cedar]

anyone tried "loose pockets" from shadow rend yet?

[flint turret]

Yeah I feel like rend has too much mana pressure on a player. It's only spammanle inside a smoke bomb, and it's not even enough for multishot spam

But I still like it so far

I'm set on making multishot rend work at least better than regular multishot

[wide yacht]

maybe a T7 mana regen is gonna save you lol

[flint turret]

Probably will take a while tho, I'm slow as usual

T7 mana Regen is terrible value

Its not even twice the t5

[wide yacht]

holy you're right

it's doomed

imagine your build wants red rings, lol

[flint turret]

It does

[wide yacht]

i'm so sorry

[eager mason]

ragu which altar do you use for wings of discord

I need 1 4x1 and 1 1x4

[flint turret]

The one with 4 fractured in the corners and bricked middle cross

[eager mason]

ocular

[pine hatch]

@eager mason wat build are going to play

[eager mason]

potion shift cascade

[flint turret]

Why not rend ffs

[pine hatch]

Have to tried the +shadows set and chance not consume shadows with melee cascade

I know someone uploaded something on offline

[wide yacht]

btw ragu, how do you cap crit on your velocyn dagger build?

i couldn't help but stick to traitor's tongue at the end of the day

[flint turret]

Which one? Rend cascade? Relic caps it np

[wide yacht]

you mean the corrupted crit chance per dex?

[flint turret]

Both it and flat crit for shadows on relic

[eager mason]

I showed lizard my build on offline if thats what you are talking about

[wide yacht]

yeah it's 9%, + cascade base crit

right

[flint turret]

+4 velocyn

[wide yacht]

i see the vision

how hard would it be to roll that corruption though

[flint turret]

Tunklabs has chances

I haven't gotten to corrupting it tho

[wide yacht]

otherwise you'd be putting points in your tree for crit for the most part until that happens

[flint turret]

Just got 1 set so far

[wide yacht]

oh right, CoF

[flint turret]

Cof has nothing to do with it, I'm just slow I just got to the second harb

And I'm still melee on a goddaam mm

[wide yacht]

beautiful

[pine hatch]

I tested two builds one with rend like + max shadows it's mad also with sync

[blissful juniper]

At that point though what is Rend giving you? I mean rn my build is basically multishot + hs + eventually shurikens once I get the corrupt

[flint turret]

Having 40 dusk shrouds makes even melee mm with only 3 skills pretty good in empowereds already

[flint turret]

Much more multishots if I could sustain mana

1 rend is basically almost 2 multishots even if we count out smoke bomb

Because 60% chance to resummon and 30% chance to not consume

With smoke it's basically+2 multishots per second extra

The amount of hits per second it can potentially produce for shurikens triggers is off charts

Hs has like 7 maybe 8 recurves on average at best

[wide yacht]

tbh, adding rend to my cascade build seems impossible mana-wise. either i have to give up on DS (which feels good currently) or remove smoke bomb for umbral blades and add mana in the build

which is a lot of sacrifices to be made

[flint turret]

Yeah I don't really see rend working with ds currently

[wide yacht]

didn't expect that one day we'd be saying DS is too fast for its own good

[flint turret]

Ds and rend kinda do the same job

Trigger cascade

[wide yacht]

although, i see a world where you replace cascade with a pure damage rend?

with DS being just an ultra buffing skill for it to burst

[flint turret]

I tried it on legacy a bit and I wasn't impressed

Sync rend cascade DPS is quite something tho

But mana....

[wide yacht]

sad

also exposed weakness seems like a bit of a pain to fully utilize for that purpose

5 different ailments on an enemy?

[flint turret]

It's fine

You should always have at least 4 anyway

Shred, shred, chill, doom

Bleeds from crimsons

[wide yacht]

so anything counts, good to know

[flint turret]

Well I haven't really tested it but it should right

[snow ember]

What happened to blast rain marksman btw? Used to be super popular now... no-where to be seen?

[flint turret]

Deadge, traps nerfes in both manacost and da triggers

Replaced by hs entirely

Same gameplay basically

[wise echo]

Is the dusk shroud passive bugged? I don't think im getting them

[flint turret]

Dread dropped rend multishot too sadge

Oh well, I'm still gonna do it

[north tree]

You shouldnt have mana issues if you take smoke bomb node and occasionally press shadow cascade

Also I have 7 shadows so during smokebomb im positive and out of it I last 3-4 seconds

[ebon python]

I looked a guide for fire dancing strikes with new set swords, but early on, it seems there's no way to convert it to fire. Would either running it as phys or leveling with cinder strike be options?

[snow ember]

Either, but I'm gonna save you some time. If you want an easy, high corruption rogue this isn't the build

[ebon python]

How high is high

[snow ember]

I'm getting mixed results with the fire conversion, the fact they're set items means they're just not as good as legendaries

[ebon python]

If it can do 200-300 as a starter I'm fine

[snow ember]

I'm at 140 and I've just been absolutely rolled repeatedly by greater omen windows

It simply cannot clear fast enough

Dodge will not keep you alive against masses of strong mobs in omen windows and you can't kill fast enough 🤷‍♂️

[ebon python]

Hmm. It sounds cool and I want to give it a shot but thanks for the warning.

If it doesn't work I assume there are other bladedancer options

That or tweaking it with the knowledge I do have

[flint turret]

i was talkijng about rend hidden strenth

[snow ember]

I guess what I'm saying is this: if you invest a gigantic amount of time into this you might get it somewhere

But it caps at a lower ceiling because you can't slam set items and you the set affix from Kuzon's is bleh

[ebon python]

Got it, was thinking maybe use a different 2nd weapon and not go as set heavy

[snow ember]

Yeah you need the blade + ring that counts for all sets

The helmet is...bleh

And you almost certainly want traitor's tongue in the offhand or you're gonna find it real hard to max crit

[ebon python]

And you'd use something else over shadow cascade?

[snow ember]

I don't know, I'm only using SC when it's triggered by Shift

The Hidden Blade node in DS is an option but I haven't pathed to that, perhaps I should

But then you'd want the helmet and I don't think the set is good enough to give up two slots

That's 4 prefixes and 4 suffixes you can't use

[ebon python]

Hm. True, what might be other options for dancing strikes while I'm still low level and not committed?

[snow ember]

Honestly try the build

It's niche and definitely a 'for fun' build, but I'm doing it despite knowing this isn't going to be a 500c build without insane investment

I should point out that I'm CoF and can't just buy the gear I need

So it takes me longer to find upgrades

[ebon python]

Alright

[steep anvil]

has anyone tried Hydra Arc with shadow rend?

I want every repeat to summon the dudes and have them spread out multishotting

but I have no idea how the interaction will actually work

[finite arch]

ik aint crazy but holy res

[tribal yarrow]

do I want Shadow Massacre on my Shadow Rend builld? eventually I'm aiming to get the new set items for shadows

[rigid stratus]

what was the falconer build that killed uber abby yesterday? Oo

[unique umbra]

do you need a specific base type to hit a traitor's tongue with rune of ascendency or any dagger will work?

[autumn depot]

i've never done a ranger build in this game. what's fun to play? i see this heartseeker/icicle build looks kinda fun

[void cargo]

not bad at all first usabel uniqe item lol 😄

[unique umbra]

anyone know if the nodes in rend like Intensity and Heavy Shadows only add More damage to the player's attack or if it also adds More damage to the shadows attack?

[north tree]

Ive been loving that combo

[tribal yarrow]

Yeah just tested, it's good. now i found a helmet that gives me ward every time i make a shadow hell yeah

[north tree]

The set + mana reduction w/ smoke bomb and 7 shadows im basically spamming rend

Also gives a ton of dusk shroud so you feel tanky

[finite arch]

im so weak my god

[north tree]

What build?

[finite arch]

heartseeker dragonsong

im barely beating 100 corrupt lol

[flint turret]

have you wncountered immortal emenies often guys?

that are literally not loosing health while taking damage

[eager mason]

here is offline gameplay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zvKa-vR8ls

[flint turret]

can anyone explain whats going on? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f0CVf8OP54

[eager mason]

lol

no clue

[surreal condor]

:xdd:

[flint turret]

i cant kill a rat bruh

[eager mason]

you can tank it at least

[flint turret]

melee MM power

[dire pawn]

@zenith bridge are u against recommending bladestorm falc on your planner?

because im running that

and im on 100 corruption, struggling a bit but dont have any of the gear yet

[zenith bridge]

not against falconer, but the bladedancer version is way better

[pine hatch]

I like it that's similar with wat I tested

[eager mason]

I wanted the new belt to work

[pine hatch]

But you are gonna get dced in arena

[eager mason]

but it actually needs you to restore 20% life

[pine hatch]

Hahahaha

[eager mason]

so it doesnt count when you are full life

this would have been so good

[eager mason]

idk if I wanna do arena anyways

my fps already isnt the best on this

after hours of arena its gonna be so bad

[pine hatch]

Hahahaha that's what I thought

It's fked

[eager mason]

would you run smoke bomb or sync

[pine hatch]

Probably smoke?

[eager mason]

smoke is more single target sync is incase I run out of pots

[pine hatch]

Well this patch my GPU doesn't fall off to 40% after hours of playing so my fps is good

[dire pawn]

think i might switch builds lowkey...

[patent ledge]

is it possible to indirectly cast bladestorms now?

[flint turret]

nemesis chill bro

[eager mason]

holy

set corruption makes it a normal item right?

[north tree]

Thats what ive been seeing

Ive corrupted 5 set pieces all became a random exalt with their shard

[grave gale]

there a way to get more bladestorms?

[wise echo]

CORRUPT!!!!

[wise echo]

Not 100%.

It can land the minimum/maximum affixes too

[hollow palm]

any way to check real crit chance of the specific skill?

[eager mason]

giga

[crimson latch]

Listen to me

Stop hacking uwu

Scale 1-10 how much are you enjoying the season guys?

[mental perch]

That’s Sus

[candid pebble]

A solid 8, I think! Bladestorm is fun so far.

[daring blade]

Bladestorm/shuriken has been hilarious. I'm near the end of the campaign, and this is the fastest I've ever downed the bosses. Najasa didn't even get to move to regen her health.

[candid pebble]

🤣

I wonder how long this power will last before getting nerfed 😂

[daring blade]

Imo throwing builds have always been pretty nutty in the campaign. To make up for the fact that you don't get weapon damage, they all have intense scaling.

[royal torrent]

hows shadowrend?

[iron crane]

for those bladestorm bladedancers people out here, how was it? what can you say about the scaling?

[kind adder]

Anyone got the new Kuzon set and tried it?

[halcyon shale]

I assume umbral falconer got gutted as I see no one playing it anymore

[dull perch]

That season doesnt really feel good for zhp ballista. Standing around in a small area with hundred mobs where some feel immortal really doesnt help when you are 1 hit

[delicate onyx]

well well well, how the turns have tabled

[blissful juniper]

Its a 6 or a 7 right now

[grave gale]

are you doing chakram or blade shield?

[kind adder]

I don't think anyone is doing chakram lol, I don't think it scales very well

At least I haven't seen a way to make it viable

[grave gale]

is the shadow daggers part of blade storm just a non starter?

[kind adder]

I take it back... @zenith bridge watching your chakram vid now. That looks insanely fun

[jaunty glen]

Should I play Heartseeker or Bladestorm/Shuriken?

or the Bladestorm Chakram one

[tulip edge]

i need more levels

[oak plume]

im doing zdps at number 184

and 400 corruption

and 0 survivability

bricked build so many times now

[eager mason]

its the huge altar too nice

[potent hemlock]

My heartseeker build is so slow early on

lol

[blissful juniper]

Has anyone actually got the shuriken on bow crit corruption to see if its any good?

[potent hemlock]

Dragonsong so far, still clearing early monos to unlock RoW

Any good early sources of crit besides that crit/attack speed mod?

[coral kelp]

needing to manually cast shuriken for the armor buff is soooo bad now

[blissful juniper]

Yea its basically a dead skill now for marksmen unless you are doing shuriken on crit or some kind of bladestorm shenanigans

[jaunty glen]

Is it better to just level as Marksman early on through the acts?

[sand dome]

puncture with a bow is one of the easiest leveling experiences

also, did the tabi hotfix make it so that your 2nd shadow lunges forward if you have the node? anyone able to check?

[jaunty glen]

Truuuue I’ve been doing that super early on and hella chill. Wanna play Triksters Shuriken Bladestorm build cause it looks cool, always prefer to level with the build I plan on using but transitioning is fine I guess

[sand dome]

idk if bladestorm is any good but its probably pretty good, it was used very often back when it was a subskill of umbral blades

[tulip edge]

honestly i got lucky and got the bo staff for my shuriken bladestorm really early

[elder rain]

what does your explosive trap tree look like?

[turbid oar]

is umbral blades good for shadow cascade blade dancer? tbh idk that it deals that much damage and the mana refund doesnt seem very strong

[elder rain]

thanks

[turbid oar]

ive thought of just using lethal mirage as a nuke but it's kinda garbo without bbc

im using shadow rend/synch strike/shift/cascade/dancing strikes but idk the mana sustain isawful

[elder rain]

your using sync strik and shadow rend but not specializing in them?

[turbid oar]

no im specced in both. it seems to not make sense at first since they both consume shadows but shadow rend can generate shadows too so in theory looping between both should be pretty good damage

main thing is idk dancing strikes just doesn't really do anything in the build, except for using flow

[silk coral]

do you guys have a good rogue lootfilter for bladedancer

[royal torrent]

sync strike into cascade seems good for the nuke

[elder rain]

lizard's build revolved around spamming shurikens after sync strik, but it looks like the shadows only repeat one attack

[royal torrent]

Is hidden strength or shadow massacre usefull at all?

[crimson latch]

i love gamba

[potent hemlock]

My heartseeker is feeling sooooooo slow in normal monoliths and I have no idea why that is

[river talon]

holy smokes wait is ruined item = just forever bricked!?

[topaz robin]

just bricked

[river talon]

no way to undo that? that suuuuuuuuuuuucks if so

[topaz robin]

nope

They should have just had it eat the item instead, it's so dumb

[river talon]

AH okay so I see. the corruption did nothing other than ruin it

wow that is giga depressing

[crimson latch]

its ok because is +1 dex skill if was 2+ i'd be ctying

[river talon]

fair

i'm currently deciding between (as a bladedancer) if i want to do throwing focused or melee and then either pure physical or element / status of some kind
found it interesting that shadow rend has a lightning node

no idea how good any of them are or if my stat focus would be spread too thin if i go with elements tho

[topaz robin]

you generally wanna focus one element

[river talon]

like if you were gonna take a poison node do you just focus on poison damage on gear too and ignore crit, for example?

i've never actually done an ailment build in this game idr if it can crit or not and i play a few other games where they do lol

[topaz robin]

Ailments cannot crit, so if you go dots you dont generally care, there are some exceptions but they are very rare and require the sent class or items

Also, if you dont know, you can press G for the in game guide which has a LOT of stuff

[river talon]

i've got prob idk a few hundred hours but i also came back after taking a break for like 10 months or so

soooo many things i haven't tested yet / gotta remember tho lol

[topaz robin]

Not that much has changed in that time honestly, corruption is definitely the biggest one to learn

[river talon]

seems many people are saying rend is interesting but too many hungry

but then again i see more people doing rend + other for marksman and i'm doing bladedancer

[topaz robin]

I havent played much rogue, not a fan of how it feels so I cant help you there. Im planning one stupid build with it this season and that is about it

[river talon]

i was a huge shaman fan when game first came out 1.0 but then they did that passive change where they gutted a lot of his defensive capacity, and I couldn't really get melee shaman to work like it does in grim dawn so i kind of gave up on it

[turbid oar]

do different sources of additive damage interact with other additive damage additively or multiplicatively? eg say I have additive phys damage %, additive melee %, (50% melee, 50% phys) do you get 1.5*1.5 or 2.0x? ik this is how POE2 works but iirc this isn't the case in last epoch?

[night laurel]

Heartseeker not good this season? 😕

[vagrant lagoon]

Increased is additive, more is multiplicative (as said on the tooltip)

[royal torrent]

is the Jormun set usefull?

Seems that I get quite high dps for it atm at least

[narrow dome]

I'm kind of surprised how much im liking shadow rend as a traversal skill- its a bummer to lose the teleport of shift but the basically perma frenzy is super handy to have, especially now that shift+bladed armor isnt basically mandatory

[daring blade]

I've been running blade shield, but I'm thinking of switching. I ran chakram earlier in the campaign.

[kind adder]

Dancing strikes is actually so much better on mkb, it's ridiculous

It is horribly clunky on controller

[fallen whale]

do I need to be mechanically gifted to play zhp ballista in endgame?

like do I just instantly die if I get touched by anything in endgame?

[granite current]

Guys did you try this out yet? Worth farming the set to spam this for some cool hits

Another insane 2x t7

WTF xD

[royal torrent]

How are you getting corrupted set items?

[granite current]

Corrupt it in the forge

Its insane

Worth farming them in troves

[granite current]

Just found and crafted these as well. Now I'm at 7 max shadows xD

[simple chasm]

guys how do you handle OCD with playing bladestorm as a baldedancer and wasting its melee phys dmg passive? I cant

pls devs change it

[fading burrow]

yeah they will change it next s5

stay calm

[fading burrow]

exactly this lmao silver shroud cant help much

[simple chasm]

really? when

[fallen whale]

next...year?

[night spruce]

so it seems kuzon converts bleed and shred to ignite/fire

but does it convert all sources ?

[dusty olive]

We can get amulets with inherent +1 skills now???

[fossil scroll]

where do i target farm reign of winter?

[coral tundra]

On the boss of "The age of winter"

[night spruce]

does anyone know if Kuzon set converts all sources of bleed when using fire converted Dancing Strikes/Shadow Cascade ?

[grand yoke]

thrown skills dont work with melee leech right

[wary cedar]

y

[elder condor]

Alright rogues how are our new skills looking and what not

[ebon belfry]

id say shadow rend is only usable in its traversal version.

[dusty olive]

Anyone got a decent rogue lootfilter? Looking at doing some sort of shadow rend or bladestorm build

[sage arch]

what should be the best rogue build to push corruption on hc?

[tulip hollow]

peak

[ebon belfry]

any thoughts on using bladestorm with Explosive Trap and Axplosive arrow?? alongside with the new unique relic

[faint holly]

i tested it with explosive trap but it get mana hungry

[patent ledge]

is it possible to indirectly cast shadowstorm?

[snow ember]

Greater omen windows? Yeah you're gonna get bent over

[snow ember]

#🔪┃rogue message

[elder condor]

Sometimes I wish we have a mana flask in this game not sure why it’s just health🥲

[snow ember]

Mana is one of the primary balance levers

Certainly a choice, not sure I whether I agree, but LE went with that

[elder condor]

Yeah mana seems one of the biggest problems you need to solve and it’s not as “free” like other game lol. Poe it’s nice because it’s a really really useful backup

[wary cedar]

is poison as a dot any good?

two my unqies give poison chance

[low quiver]

What would be the best and smoothest transition for a falconer?

[flint turret]

does imprinting work on set items? not reforged, the actial set items

[ebon belfry]

how can i make kuzons furry wortk with doppelganger? both use a helmet? (besides that ancestral uinique ring)

can i transer the helmet onto a non helmet ? or can i use 2x Sword from kzons?

[wary cedar]

with the ancestral uinique ring

[north tree]

Downed Abby with shadowrend+Sc now I sleep

[pastel rock]

SC?

[north tree]

Shadow cascade

[pastel rock]

Ahh thx for response

[sharp thicket]

+.

[eager mason]

a lot of attack speed

[vague depot]

whats a good bladedancer build to try out, with few buttons as possible?

[cyan wren]

@candid ledge Yo can you share your pob rq?

[blissful juniper]

this is actually a good corrupted bow

no flat damage prefix but thats fine

what build would want that though 🤔

[flint turret]

okay so bladeshield works on bow shuri trigger

this actually might be crazy single target damage

[violet kindle]

Anyone else noticed that the Slagstorm Talent point from Bladestorm does not seem to have any actual interaction with Umbral Blades? They are not destoyed and the blade storm does not last longer nor does it seem bigger or deal more damage.

[ember apex]

How to prevent moving when using dancing strikes?

[flint bough]

how are you guys finding this season?

[terse bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTyMrDILhww

[cyan wren]

@terse bloom Hi sorry to bother you, any idea why am I always leeching to full life (crippling the low life status).

oh wait sorry u playing other build.

[dire pawn]

anyone running falconer bladestorm? chakrum, blade shield or deadly aim

[lusty wagon]

someone say where drop that? pls

[vernal swift]

is there anybody running lethal Mirage?

[serene dust]

How can I determine in advance whether certain skill branches will work when activated by other abilities?
Example: Shift -> Dancing Shadows doesn't activate the evasion branch in Shadow Cascade.

[flint turret]

Planner?

[cyan wren]

I had an issue when I healed to full life in maps whlie playing a low life setup.
Found the problem: it was health on kill on my new idols.

[flint turret]

Alright

[ebon belfry]

so...korazons with doppelganger and with shadow cascade/dancing strikes/shadow rend seems pretty busted o.o

[blissful juniper]

@flint turret trying rend multishot again and it actually doesnt feel that bad with the new boots

normally when you use it the bow shadow disappears, but with the boots making both shadows stay it feels a lot more smooth

[flint turret]

Boots don't make both shadows stay

Melee should be disappearing if you are wearing a bow

[candid ledge]

U might also have health gain on hit in passive free

Should still be lowlife most of a time though

[cyan wren]

Yeah got rid of the full life problem when I ditched life on kill idols.
Saw you on Corruption ladder u mind sharing the POB?

[candid ledge]

U can just import my name on last epoch planner

My account name is sandst0rm

[cyan wren]

Got it ty.

[candid ledge]

I doing smth rn so I can’t

[cunning jackal]

I wonder if bladestorm bladedancer scales good? Everyone plays it

[flint turret]

so i was right

[halcyon shale]

Is the umbral falconer build still viable?

[blissful juniper]

wdym? without the boots the bow shadow attacks with the normal shadow rend attack* and disappears. with the boots the bow shadow stays and shoots multishot on the next cast

[floral cypress]

I'm too dumb to understand patch notes and I see maxroll doesnt support it anymore, is umbral blades falconer dead?

[blazing locust]

Damn we actually have an op shadow rend build now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aj6uaxJdG0

who should I congratulate 😄

[ebon belfry]

since it worked with bladesotrm aasfaik, its dead in that case.

[muted current]

at what point should i transition from the falconer leveling guide to the bladestorm bladedancer im planning to play?

maxroll guide mentions uniques needed "for the low life setup"

but i guess that means i can easily play it already as regular life ?

im only in early monoliths lvl 64 atm

[daring blade]

Anybody doing bladestorm falconer? I'm running falcon, acid flask, bladestorm, shurikens, and shift. BS is set and forget, while I spend most of my time flinging fire acid flasks.

[eager mason]

@terse bloom offline one shot with 1lp gear https://streamable.com/l92dwp (edit: did it online too)

need to hit the flow and its giga

[flint turret]

got ravs on the first ghaspar kill lol

remember farming him for dozens times without any

[ebon belfry]

any tips on managing mana with shadow cascade/Shadow rend

?

[full hill]

Anyone rebind dash from space, and if so what key?

[narrow dome]

suffer, mostly lmao

[ebon belfry]

q

[flint turret]

-4 manacost in tree, -10 manacost in smoke, done

[ebon belfry]

hm dont want to use smoke...im too mobile 😄

[vague depot]

i guess any skill node that produces shadows gets boosted by shadow rend skill tree?

[ebon belfry]

anyone got a video on understanding these new altars?? 0o

[cyan wren]

Whats the planner on that offline character.

[crimson latch]

finally some luck

[crimson latch]

send planner

im just OP speed farming with bd bladestorm to try my shadowrend multishot but it needs investment

[rugged night]

Anyone running melee Shadow Rend?

[finite arch]

man im struggling with 100 corrupt jesus im weak

[bold brook]

use umbral blades that spawn from shadows and shift recall to gain mana

[fossil scroll]

got some1 an exalted bow with increased box atk speed?

[halcyon crane]

It's the current build im playing with

[rugged night]

What skills you using to syngerize with it? I’m using shuriken - blade shield node for extra damage when I dash in with Shadow Rend but I’m looking for some other synergies that may exist

[oak plume]

survivability fixed

[turbid oar]

yeah i use bladedancer, shadowrend, sync strike

[halcyon crane]

currently using cascade + umbral blades with the new boots

[crimson latch]

build?

[oak plume]

experimenting still

trying out blade storm shurikens

[kind adder]

Hmm. I would have thought with the sword + ring it wouldn't be that bad. Were you building it for burning daggers + shurikens? I would think it wouldn't play so different from regular DS+shuri builds

Again I haven't actually found it yet, I'm only lvl 65 and still in regular monos

But if its really that low of a ceiling, that is very disappointing

[kind adder]

This is assuming you're using exalteds in place of the set pieces, but I feel like the set pieces would be better than any exalted you could put there... maybe I'm crazy

[snow ember]

I don't think the ceiling is where a sufficiently-well slammed legendaries build is. I do think there's a higher ceiling than I've reached though

[kind adder]

Fair enough. I hate that legendaries will always be better than sets, but if you could slam set pieces they would be godly

[snow ember]

I don't think the burning daggers are good enough to step down from legendary items

[kind adder]

So I see why they don't go that direction

[snow ember]

The shattering and reforging is a good idea, you just don't always get the useful part of the set item

[kind adder]

Yeah they are best on heartseeker and even then not a super high ceiling

[snow ember]

In this case the kuzon affixes are shit

So it's set or bust basically

[kind adder]

Yep. Doesn't even convert to fire with the set affixes which is BS imo

[oak plume]

:d

no crit dmg on dagger 💔

[snow ember]

There's also the point that even post-nerf shadow daggers crits like a truck and can easily reach very high phys pen

Why swap to fire with Kuzons only to lose the insane shadow daggers

I think it's a firmly niche build that probably does ok but not great in late game

[rugged night]

Oooo nice, I’ve seen the synergy node with Cascade but how does Umbral Blades fit in the picture?

[halcyon crane]

i choose the explode + shadow dagger nodes for flavor and bonus dmg, you can also go with the recall with shift nodes for more mana sustain but I found it to be overkill

[snow ember]

@kind adder What's your tooltip dps on DS?

[wise echo]

Is this node not working?

I move and use skills with movement tag and its not working

[silk coral]

are recall nodes obsolete with this? (umbral blades)

[tulip hollow]

i dont think the less damage taken stats from passive tree show on your character sheet

or maybe not the conditional ones

i dunno

[wise echo]

It showed last season, so it should now

[finite arch]

guys do i corrupt or na?

[tulip hollow]

i dunno death's door doesn't show for me either

and im low health

[wise echo]

Any conditional effect that i've seen, are shown in your characther sheet while you are fufilling them

[snow ember]

vaal or no baals

[wise echo]

That's weird, but Evasion 100% showed it before.

[wise echo]

balls deep on it

Or slam it first

[tulip hollow]

oh ya maybe you're right that its not working

well guess i can change those points

[finite arch]

ah screw it. send it

pog

[tulip hollow]

ya i was wrong about this i just missed some increased damage taken stuff i had

guess evasion is broken

[wise echo]

Oh come on

Amazing chest

[tulip hollow]

oh wait the dodge rating isn't conditional

its just the damage taken while moving

which isnt on the character sheet i guess?

[wise echo]

Maybe they removed it from the sheet, but it used ot show in the "Less damage Taken" text in Defense

[tulip hollow]

guess would have to ask devs 🤷‍♂️

[kind adder]

Not sure, I'll have to check when I log back on. Still only 65 in regular monos running double Kris so it won't be very high, why do you ask?

[snow ember]

Just to compare, I don't think in getting DPS numbers even close to other skills

[kind adder]

Yeah I think it's really just a proc skill atp

Great for shuri/cascade procs

Its actual dps probably pretty low without those

But I was interested in a shuri/burning dagger combo using DS to proc

Like, how much damage do you lose by just swapping out the main hand Traitor's in this build for the set sword?

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/1e2kqm0i#2

You just swap increased phys for increased fire, or you can keep it there for the shuri scaling. But all the added throwing damage is adaptive so BD inherits all that

I guess you lose the crit multi... but is that such a big loss?

[snow ember]

As long as you keep the offhand traitor's so you're at 100% crit I don't think you lose too much

The phys shred nodes in DS required to path to cascade are annoying though

Also annoying that fire res shred is in Cinder Strike but you have to use DS

It's all just slightly not right

[kind adder]

Yeah agreed. A few tweaks and it could be great. Also that set bonus is garbage lmao

Absolutely useless, you don't throw enough daggers for that to be any good. Unless you're going cinder or heartseeker

[median harbor]

has anyone else tried out a bladestorm/shuriken build yet? does it seem to benefit more from bladedancer or falconer?

[kind adder]

But then why would you use that set lol

Just all around not great synergy

But it looks cool af

So I'll find a way to make it work

[kind adder]

Trikster has a video on this

[median harbor]

awesome, thanks

[errant pollen]

Does anyone know what nodes in Shadow cascade don't work when you have only the throwing knives node?

[snow ember]

Yeah based on YouTube bladedancer and faceroll

[blissful juniper]

Dont have one yet, and still needs to cook probably.

[cyan wren]

1700 Corruption Bladedancer:
https://youtu.be/0zz3d2hxZfs

[tulip edge]

yuge

[pulsar solar]

Is this a bug?

[patent ledge]

Is it possible to indirectly cast bladestorm?

[pulsar solar]

Nooo, unfortunately:(

[jagged sedge]

What do I do about my squishiness?

[pulsar solar]

Building a tank

[carmine kelp]

the fact that none of this looks like rogue gear, yet it is, is the most RPG thing ever

what im really here for though is, would this make shadows cast shurikens around themselves as well?

[surreal condor]

nope, shadows cast in cone

[carmine kelp]

but still hits the same target

with each individual shuriken?

[surreal condor]

each shadow hits but dunno if it counts all shuriken they cast

[jagged sedge]

Is it important to cap out resistances?

[surreal condor]

yea

no need to cap really but keeping them close to cap helps

[jagged sedge]

After playing Sentinel, rogue resistances are so damn bad

Sentinel is a fcking cheat code

im 60 lol

[carmine kelp]

it is literaly a tank class tho, kind of in line with expectations

[surreal condor]

had same feeling but after some gearing its pretty much same

[carmine kelp]

also something like this tends to fix most issues, throw a resist on 1-2 more gear pieces, then add in blessings and you're chilling

not even taking into account the resistances from small idols

[jagged sedge]

ok that affix that gives ward every time i gain haste is is pretty good for defense

i get haste a lot

[carmine kelp]

and that too

[jagged sedge]

ty btw

[river talon]

i am so lost on how to build my rogue this season

[wary cedar]

now corrupt it

[carmine kelp]

im having fun with bladestorm shurikens

tho i wouldnt advise going for shurikens and bladestorm as your first 2 specs

puncture feels so much better, as always

puncture into shadow daggers, then bladestorm into shadow daggers, only then spec into shurikens

[river talon]

i'm torn on 2 fronts, i feel like i don't understand balancing defense/damage in passives and i also feel like there's no way to link together the skills i actually want to use

[carmine kelp]

those skills being?

[river talon]

so

i liked shadow rend and i thought it was interesting that it had a lightning conversion node

and i noticed lethal mirage had a lightning conversion node as well

but if i was going to run it melee (i'm playing bladedancer) idk what third skill if any i'd throw in to add with those? and i'm not sure how i'd scale or what to gear for, either

to my knowledge you can't make shadow cascade lightning

or like anything else that you'd want to juice it with

and shadow's are limited on what skills they can mimic

i feel like i get baited by thinking about shadow daggers and all the shadow damage nodes and such and then end up trying to focus on pumping two different damage sources and losing out on optimal/significant output

[carmine kelp]

i think only shurikens, lethal mirage and umbral blades really have lightning

[river talon]

the other idea i had was cold throwing for bladestorm + umbral, and decoy even has cold and that's cool, and hell even flask has cold, but i don't really know how to group my skills properly if that makes sense.

in my head, abilities that rely on shadows often feel (at least to me) that they're kind of predicated on having like umbral + cascade or umbral + mirage or something for shadow generation

[river talon]

does umbral even have a lightning node? i thought just phys + ice

[carmine kelp]

could just add shift and smoke bomb to that for survivability

it does

[river talon]

where

[carmine kelp]

oh nvm

i just filtered "light" instead of "lightning"

and didnt read it lol

[cobalt mantle]

Detonating arrow can be lightning too

[carmine kelp]

oooh good point

add the dagger than converts into a melee

[river talon]

ye i'd have to swap to marksman then

[carmine kelp]

also true

[river talon]

fkn depressing lmfao shadow rend is such a cool ability on paper, actually like 90% of these are sick, i wish there was just easier access to damage type conversion

one of the things i loved about grim dawn was there's soooo many sources of converting damage types on sooooo many skills

[carmine kelp]

i wanted to try build around lightning shurikens

but there's really not much to support that tbh

neither does it seem to have any real endgame scaling

[wary cedar]

i use lightning shuriken AS my support

[pulsar solar]

I complained too about Shadow Cascade isn’t a lightning skill cause of synergy with rend and LM

[carmine kelp]

if anything even full cold looks more promising

[river talon]

yeah

umbral + bladestorm for throwing

what 5 skills would u take for that would u use flask too or like whats ur thoughts

[pulsar solar]

I don’t know why someone should use Shadow rend with lightning conversion

[blazing locust]

Loving these corrupts

[wary cedar]

why would you front me like that? 😨

[river talon]

because it's interesting

elemental damage is on average to me at least more interesting, thematically

[pulsar solar]

It is, but has no synergy

[river talon]

hence my complaint

it's cool as hell on paper but there's no way to like actually do it which is cringe

[pulsar solar]

Reminds me of that

[river talon]

right see this guy gets it LMAO

[carmine kelp]

you can do a fire shadow cascade & fire dancing strikes with some set items, namely the Kuzon set

[river talon]

yeah i'm looking at the ladder on lastepochtools atm and just saw that

[coarse grove]

whats the most optimal combo with bladestorm + shuriken assuming people figured endgame scaling?

[river talon]

seems interesting

not sure if there's a visual bug or what but when you search for builds using bladestorm it says some people are using it when they aren't and then one of the top results on top of that is a guy who has +damage while wearing sword and +cold damage on some slams but isn't using cold or any swords

gotta be a bug or sumn

[fossil scroll]

is any1 here playing heartseeker?

[carmine kelp]

there's definitely some cold synergies here too

or just go pure bleed with shurikens and bladestorms

[river talon]

bleed could be cool

[carmine kelp]

throw in some umbral blades and you're set

[river talon]

never done ailment before

idk how good it is

[carmine kelp]

hell even poison could work here

[river talon]

it would either be that or cold bladestorm + cold umbral
poison certainly also an option

[carmine kelp]

eeeeh its pretty good but suffers later into the game

unless you can somehow make it do damage instantly

[river talon]

i consider that to be the opposite of good, getting thru campaign and early monos is irrelevant cause that's the easy part

[carmine kelp]

waiting for enemies to die instead of just critting them into the grave in 0.5 seconds isn't always great

[river talon]

agreed

holy shit wait
almost everything in here has some good bleed chance synergies

[wary cedar]

first corrupt for my chase item didnt hit, but also not bad xd

[slate zenith]

Anyone got a CoF Bladestorm Loot Filter i can use 🙂

[pulsar solar]

Yesss

[fossil scroll]

which heartseeker?

[wary cedar]

i am

[pulsar solar]

Cold

[fossil scroll]

lvl and dps?

[pulsar solar]

I mean lvl 99
Dps? I don’t I have to add the it with icecircle and puncture . The dmg is high

[fossil scroll]

do u have a planner for me

[flint turret]

bro slamming 9 flat crit is a crime

[wary cedar]

i am on massproduction now to hit the shuri affix

if i try to get every bow perfect i ll die before i hit it

i ll try for a better one once i hit my cheap one xd

[flint turret]

why do you even go for flat cri slam then

shuri corr already fives flat crit

[wary cedar]

i m still in early game 😭

gotta use what i get

[pulsar solar]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oy4vl14n

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Rogue (32) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (62) / Falconer (10)

General:

▸ Health: 1,714, Regen: 30.19/s
▸ Mana: 201.6, Regen: 17.28/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 53 Dex / 29 Int / 25 Att / 30 Vit
▸ Resistances: 79% / 69% / 114% / 90% / 53% / 117% / 88%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 66%, Threshold: 600
▸ Dodge Chance: 43% (1542)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 23% (913)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 33%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 38%

Used skills:

Shift / Shurikens / Puncture / Heartseeker / Smoke Bomb

[pulsar solar]

Hahah

[wary cedar]

but i will do T7 flat lightning bow dmg if i can

[flint turret]

why?

[cyan wren]

@eager mason How did u get the dmg per dusk shroud on this 3x1 idol? Tried to search on market but only 4x1

[wary cedar]

i just think they re neat

[eager mason]

its an omen idol

[eager mason]

those can get 4x1 1x4 affixes

you dont need it tho

[wary cedar]

nah, they re not real, they don't drop at all

ehg propaganda

[flint bough]

should i get this or increased armor from heorot?

[cyan wren]

When u said its not consistent, what do u mean? Like that 1 shot fishing has to require everything RNG star aligned?

[blazing locust]

can I get a similar dagger to drop ffs

[pulsar solar]

Depends on your build?

[cyan wren]

Im about to spend 10m+ gold to make your build.

[eager mason]

I was just bad at doing getting flow and falconers mark on it

[flint bough]

shadow cascade bladedancer

[eager mason]

even if you mess it up you leave him at like 30% hp

so its fine

[cyan wren]

Oh thats not bad.

[cyan wren]

Do you need to spam Umbral Blades at all? Or its just whatever?

I reckon Aerial Assault will do most work?

[eager mason]

umbrals is how you recall the blades

you spam the other skills a bit then recall them

[cyan wren]

I see.

[rigid stratus]

@eager mason u just respecing blademaster for mapping/farming and then just going falconer for ubberoth? or is there a "tankier respec" you're doing for farming high corruption on the falconer?

[eager mason]

I want to play bd just swapped to falconer to record one shot

[jaunty glen]

How viable is getting trikster’s build cof

[eager mason]

very

[rigid stratus]

did u confirm that the flask chance to consume charges wasn't working? i was creeping on that build you posted 👀

[jaunty glen]

Cool

[eager mason]

set belt needs you to actually restore 20% of your hp

so it doesnt work at like full life

[rigid stratus]

ah so the amulet cucks it then?

[eager mason]

yeah and that

idk tested it a bit felt bad so Im not gonna use the set belt

build still good enough with jungle queen but you need to farm enchants is the problem

[rigid stratus]

just stack more "guile" and get more movement CDR on other items and do slightly slower version?

[wary cedar]

like how rare are the corrupted idols? i dont get any at all

[eager mason]

you can get another chance to find potion on belt too

but yeah build needs a lot to start going

[pulsar solar]

I forgot to change the amulet with truessight

[wise echo]

My damage is so bad right now, all the swords are all suffixes wtf game

[crimson latch]

What build

[eager mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zvKa-vR8ls

[wise echo]

Cool build

[rigid stratus]

@eager mason you should post a video of your just normal farming build if you get some spare time ❤️

[eager mason]

Im just playing smks build rn until I have my potion stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecx_4HNsfPM

trikster is also playing it

so you can check either smks setup is from last season so it has more gear

[blazing locust]

Im blasting this and melting my FPS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVkBfX8Y5yc

the most bladedancer-y rogue-y feel so far from the builds I've tried 😄

[carmine kelp]

million damage crit 👀

[blazing locust]

i think there was a 19 somewhere underneath all those numbers as well 😄

[rigid stratus]

am i blind or are you just straight up using 0 primordials or t8 mods?

[blazing locust]

not my build (not sure whose it is - maybe he can write here 😄 )

the relic is t8

reforged

[rigid stratus]

oh i see it now ty lol

[blazing locust]

you get 100% procs that way

60+40 from the relic

[wary cedar]

comments got it

[blazing locust]

😄 probably, those corrupts be hella lucky anyway

[rare latch]

Anyone other marksmanship players having trouble with omens? So squishy as is the rogue way but obviously cannot kite fully. Like I literally cannot stand still for a second to dps. I am kind of dreading if I ever try and push corruption. Marksman kind of feels like a bad choice this patch?

[wary cedar]

try shooting while moving

[snow ember]

Which ones? Greater omen windows smash everyone until you gear properly

[rare latch]

Wow such a genius why didn't I think of that

[carmine kelp]

im not exactly at a point where i can test this yet, but... for those who are:
if going for a build that focuses on shadow damage from replicating abilities, would Blade Shield be the best even if means shurikens have spread, or could Deadly Aim do more burst damage even with reduced projectiles simply due to more shurikens hitting in total?

[wary cedar]

as a rogue you want to be on the move, you want to stand still, things doesnt add up

[rare latch]

Greater yea. But then those lesser ones at the end of the chain also

[snow ember]

The double omen greater windows absolutely ruined me at first

I'm talking a dozen deaths bad

Took a lot of gearing up to get there

[rare latch]

I am aware, but with heartseeker u really need to get off some damage and u cannot do optimal dps if moving constantly

[wary cedar]

i play heartseeker as well, i m not really standing still, maybe for the 0.2sec my guy is shooting the arrow

[carmine kelp]

you can, gotta use the unique helmet that gives you an autoheartseeker

https://tenor.com/view/yondu-gotg-guardians-of-the-galaxy-marvel-mcu-gif-16575932

bruuuuuh

[rare latch]

Nah that is for a different variant, I think in rain build

[flint bough]

OMG im having so much fun on my bladedancer 🙂 🙂 🙂

[rare latch]

Ice or dragon? Not gonna bother on the path of minutia if u want to assume i mean standing still for 5 seconds then u can

[wary cedar]

neither, but doesnt matter. just to make sure i am asking the obvious here, you do play with wasd?

[rare latch]

No but I am thinking of changing it. I often use controller tbh, but using KBM atm

What other option is there that is viable for heartseeker 😮

[wary cedar]

if you play heartseeker without wasd you lose a LOT

[wary cedar]

i m playing hydra

[rare latch]

Rain of arrows?

[wary cedar]

no, i said heartseeker already xd

[rare latch]

Yea, but rain build involves heartseeker also normally

[wary cedar]

just normal heartseeker so far

[rare latch]

Ok

[jolly jungle]

is acid flask viable these days?

[rare latch]

So purely relying on bow damage heartseeker and u are in empowered?

[wary cedar]

ya, currently doing the harbingers, echos are no problem beside random one shots when i dont watch my screen lol

[rare latch]

Hmm

[wary cedar]

what's ya tooltip dmg for heartseeker?

you most likley miss some crucial items/slams

[tulip edge]

you guys are making me want to go back and do another heartseaker this season

[rare latch]

Yea I am still in early stages, but just got to empowered. Got a basic reign of winter

[wary cedar]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWXOly7D

[sharp raven]

Marksman, Level 95

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Rogue (24) / Bladedancer (5) / Marksman (79)

General:

▸ Health: 1,205, Regen: 53.78/s
▸ Mana: 201.74, Regen: 8.72/s
▸ Ward Retention: 6%, Regen: 9/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 72 Dex / 3 Int / 3 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 31% / 33% / 54% / 58% / 96% / 103% / 30%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 57%, Threshold: 241
▸ Dodge Chance: 33% (1116)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (836)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 10%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 71%

Used skills:

Shadow Rend / Puncture / Shurikens / Heartseeker / Dark Quiver

[wary cedar]

that's the things i have atm

[rare latch]

A bit annoyed to keep getting stomped by the windows

Way ahead of me to be fair! What corruption are u pushing?

[wary cedar]

just around 150, still unlocking/beating all the harbringers

[rare latch]

Also AFAIK shadow rend and heartseeker have no synergy?

[wary cedar]

i m doing my own heartseeker version

[rare latch]

Fair

[wary cedar]

synergy is the quiver tho

but that's stuff for later lol

[rare latch]

I started trying a shadow rend multishot but felt too weak

[wary cedar]

i use it for traversal

[rare latch]

Did u not struggle with omens when u first started empowered monos tho?

[wary cedar]

with two charges + evades i m perma dashing

[wary cedar]

i struggled when i didnt had the important unques

got some lp1s and slams done today, no problem anymore

[shrewd dome]

Is dancing strike still bugged where you get stuck in place?

[rain creek]

Does ricochet work if you convert shurikens to the barrier? It doesn’t say it doesn’t work, will test it I guess

[half nova]

Iirc if it pierces it doesn't ricochet

[crimson latch]

What build is that? Holly molly

[blazing locust]

shadow rend giga juiced prob in offline with insane corrupts 😅

[crimson latch]

Offline = shit braindead for me

[cyan wren]

That dude typed every max roll tier 7s on his items. "Dirt cheap" on title.

[blazing locust]

Im curr playing it and it started feeling very good when I slapped some melee speed on both weapons

the corrupts he put though on them for example are like hyper aspirational given the 3lps anyway 😂

[candid pebble]

So I just finished chapter 7, where do you recommend I go for better gear? I need to up my resistances

[wary cedar]

monolith

[placid tartan]

is there a bug that causes the new uniques to always roll max in their range or am i just really lucky 💀

[jaunty glen]

Is Dancing Strikes really that clunky on Controller?

[harsh pumice]

Whats the best build for rogue most meta this season ?

[pulsar solar]

Should I go for shred lightning resistance or 100% more lightning damage? Btw i have 94% lightning penetration

[placid tartan]

🤔 where are you finding a source of 100% more lightning damage where the other option is shred lightning resistance?

[livid lodge]

Whats the best rogue build atm? Im falconer, but i see some bladedancer builds pop up

[gentle spear]

whats the strat for getting good exalted daggers to slam into my 2 lp traitors tongues

[pulsar solar]

Blessing of Lagon

[livid lodge]

Could someone tell me what the most meta build is atm for rogue? not sure which build to follow

[placid tartan]

blessing of lagon isn't 100% more lightning damage, it's 100% increased lightning damage. shred is better if you have no other source of shred

[pulsar solar]

Thank you

[lyric hollow]

anyone having problems finding corrupted omen idols ? of any kind ?

i found 4 red rings, and 5 corrupted omen idols (in total). They seem incredible rare

[cyan wren]

4 red rings in COF?

[lyric hollow]

ye its easy

[cyan wren]

zamn son.

[lyric hollow]

200k favor average (max rank iam)

[topaz schooner]

why are people using shadow rend for leveling rogues?

[cyan wren]

I think they use Bladestorm more.

[lyric hollow]

after the first one droped with imprints its around 100k i think

[cyan wren]

Shadow Rend is more of a end game build with lots of items.

[lyric hollow]

@coarse inlet did you guys look into corrupted omen idol drop rate? something seems way off. You want them as rare as they are?

[topaz schooner]

what about umbral blades? whats the point of using that at all if you just throw one dagger at a time now

[placid tartan]

who says umbral blades only throws one dagger at a time? 🤔

[topaz schooner]

if you use SD it only throws one

[placid tartan]

SD?

[topaz schooner]

shadow dagger

[cyan wren]

Rogue got lots of new fun and cool lookin builds this ss.

Dont know about other classes.

[placid tartan]

every class got a new fun and cool looking build this season - bees 😄

[cyan wren]

Still havent seen anybody with bee build.

Somebody made a giga bee setup on planner but havent seen it in action.

Might need someone hop to Offline and type the build out of thin air.

This one: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oP69KlDp

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Rogue (25) / Bladedancer (13) / Marksman (8) / Falconer (67)

General:

▸ Health: 2,651, Regen: 182.16/s
▸ Mana: 180.51, Regen: 9.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 60%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 38 Str / 234 Dex / 30 Int / 40 Att / 35 Vit
▸ Resistances: 67% / 74% / 69% / 56% / 41% / 76% / 191%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 54%, Threshold: 1,087
▸ Dodge Chance: 67% (3276)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 63% (4,873)
▸ Block Chance: 100%, Mitigation: 52% (2,248)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 37%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 30%

Used skills:

Acid Flask / Shift / Decoy / Falconry / Aerial Assault

[tranquil narwhal]

Does dancing strikes give any i-frames?

[placid tartan]

i've seen some unrealistic builds in my time but this one is literally not possible to create, so 🤷🏻‍♀️

not to mention it's a "bee build" that has almost zero investment into the actual power of the bees

[junior oriole]

how rare are the omen idols? haven't seen one in hours?

[coarse inlet]

#1486744068347269301

There is an issue with Omen Idols dropping

or rather, not dropping 😄

We are going to be testing a fix for this tonight.

[placid tartan]

thank you for your weekend time 🙏🏻

[coarse inlet]

You betcha

[pure sand]

Why bladedance can equipe architect of astral ?

[dire pawn]

how many ballista should i summon each time i want to deal dps

before i summon aerial assault on top

[stiff oar]

Does Velocyn's Jaw penetration apply to ailments or just hits?

[rugged pollen]

can we get corrupted mod on set items guys

or always become reforged?

[blissful juniper]

Man these corruptions might as well not exist, I bought out the entire market of 2LP Drelkors and 10 more 1LP ones and I still haven't hit the corruption for Shurikens on crit 😔

[ebon python]

Revisiting the fire dancing strikes build, is there a reason not to take Skiasynthesis if you're using shadows a lot?

Only reason I could think is point starvation

Seems really good in any case tho?

For recovery mainly

[cobalt mantle]

Both, it applies to all your damage

[cobalt mantle]

No, you cannot get extra affixes on sets

[rugged pollen]

that's meh

[cobalt mantle]

yeh

[jaunty glen]

so bummed

really wanted to play Shuriken Bladestorm/Dancing Strikes

but it's non-starter on controller

[rugged pollen]

this corrupting stuff is becoming less and less interesting the more i know abt it

[coarse inlet]

We'd love to hear your feedback or suggestions to improve it in #feedback or #suggestions.

Always listening 🙂

[half nova]

Well it's an item deleting mechanic

[patent ledge]

How does attack speed affect shadow rend? What exactly becomes faster with more attack speed?

[elder condor]

Is bladestom mana hungry or how is it?

[half nova]

Bladestorm is probably the least mana hungry spell unless you play explode

[pulsar solar]

I m stupid, why does this corrupted affix not working. My gear is is complete corrupted??

Got it!! It was bugged. I have to equip the gear again

That dmggg hahahah

[elder condor]

https://youtu.be/QMKUJWvTch0?si=fvSM2KINyKf9TatB bruh is the same build from two leagues ago? lol

[rugged pollen]

it's not

well same items and pretty much everything iguess

but mechanically different

[lyric hollow]

Thank you for your response bro, iam long enough here. Should’ve checked the thread first. My bad

[coarse inlet]

All good!

[rocky nova]

I recently swapped over to fully speccing into concentration. it feels really nice, but it's such a big investment passive point wise (playing blademaster shurikens/bladestorm/dancing strikes variant). Wondering how people feel about it? Don't think it's doable pre lvl 98 or 99 really, i just did it now at lvl 99.

it's massive, but also sometimes you do get hit and effectively lose out on 24 points in your tree lol for 4 sec

[ashen mulch]

whats the best way to get a bunch of favor

[lyric hollow]

No life, no shower, tell the wife you don’t have time for her. Quick blaster build 300+ corruption

Basicly arpg in a nutshell

[ashen mulch]

🫡 no specific setup then? just blast

[sacred relic]

Does anyone know off the top of their head how the falconer deflect and weave threshold works with the corsairs set bonus. I would prefer to get the set bonus as block effectiveness is better than glancing blow after a certain point

[buoyant surge]

Any advice on how to farm razorfalls quickly, I've seen none in like 1k boots

[buoyant surge]

What's the build damn boy

[pulsar solar]

„Increased Area of mirage attacks with Lethal Mirage“

Does that mean the area of the attack or the circle?

[rain creek]

I’ve got one…

[rain creek]

Isn’t it like 2.8 seconds or something? Doesn’t one of the nodes reduce that 4s down?

[rain creek]

Have you got the favour cache nodes in your weaver tree?

[pulsar solar]

I m not sure about that this is why I m asking

[half nova]

targetting area iirc

[rain creek]

@cobalt mantle @rugged pollen

[rugged pollen]

ehh

that is not a set item with corrupted mod

that's a reforged item

[ebon belfry]

anyone tried korazons so far?

[flint turret]

I don't think so

[steel hatch]

for Lethal Mirage, if I pick up Shocking Grasp (https://i.gyazo.com/87ce622dd1abdf9a8fe8b13cbc6288fd.png), does that bypass the Can't Inflict Bleed downside of Without A Trace (https://i.gyazo.com/342a8fb976a617b337e67e4491122b83.png) or would it make it so that whatever bleed chance I have doesn't contribute to Shock?

[sturdy bridge]

shadow daggers damage is affected by increased damage nodes from the skill that applys them?

just like othr ailments?

[flint turret]

No, it's a different skill triggered by getting 4 stacks of ailment on a enemy

[sturdy bridge]

oh I see

thank you

[pulsar solar]

You got me! I think I will try this node with kill treshhold

[tulip hollow]

do you know what the "add low tier standard affix" means for positive outcomes on uniques?

oh it literally just means low tier

i was confused about what these different outcomes are

[pulsar solar]

I think it means just bleed

[steel hatch]

that's what I'm hoping, but it feels like a strange enough interaction that I was hoping I could get some confirmation about how they work together

[steel hatch]

not sure how I got you, considering I'm just asking for clarification on this rather than giving advice on something 🤔

[pulsar solar]

Thank you, I was able to improve my LM build. It works, I have tried it

[steel hatch]

cool! glad I could help, albeit indirectly

[sacred relic]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A832XOVN can some check this out and tell me what they think.

[sharp raven]

Falconer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Rogue (24) / Bladedancer (10) / Falconer (79)

General:

▸ Health: 1,410, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 122.51, Regen: 9.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 22%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 102 Dex / 11 Int / 11 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 84% / 84% / 84% / 72% / 84% / 108% / 78%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 33%, Threshold: 494
▸ Dodge Chance: 52% (2037)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 40% (2,268)
▸ Block Chance: 91%, Mitigation: 42% (1,410)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 264%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 60%

Used skills:

Decoy / Falconry / Acid Flask / Smoke Bomb / Cinder Strike

[pulsar solar]

LM is soooo busted hahahah

[flint turret]

How does it feel for omen encounters? Having a skill that needs a set-up time instead of dealing constant damage

[pulsar solar]

It does constant damage

[flint turret]

You don't combo it with shift and flow?

[pulsar solar]

Only shift for morreee damage. Shift and LM

[zenith rivet]

can you share your planer?

[pulsar solar]

And I don’t need shift

[flint turret]

No flow for 100% more? Weirdge

[pulsar solar]

No flow in my build

[flint turret]

That's like a biggest appeal in 1.4 for lm imo

[flint turret]

You capped crit or what

[pulsar solar]

My highest number was by 5 million

Yes I capped crit

[flint turret]

I see, so that's how you adapted to omens, by giga cutting damage for the ability to spam it

No coated blades either I guess

[pulsar solar]

What’s that? Hahah I forgot it

Ahhh coated blades, I have two points in that

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QqwgW750

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Rogue (27) / Bladedancer (62) / Marksman (24)

General:

▸ Health: 3,185, Regen: 29.92/s
▸ Mana: 210.92, Regen: 14.72/s
▸ Ward Retention: 62%, Regen: 8/s
▸ Attributes: 48 Str / 127 Dex / 31 Int / 31 Att / 33 Vit
▸ Resistances: 74% / 100% / 100% / 73% / 66% / 112% / 104%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 29%, Threshold: 637
▸ Dodge Chance: 57% (2359)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 56% (3,830)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 37%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 109%

Used skills:

Shift / Umbral Blades / Lethal Mirage / Shadow Cascade / Smoke Bomb

[pulsar solar]

Here my build

Pls tell me your opinion

[flint turret]

What's up with that belt

[pulsar solar]

What do you mean?

[flint turret]

I mean why it's there

Just for stats I guess? Since doom from it doesn't work

Also I don't really like boots. Skin or stymied looks better, but at the cost if ward....

[pulsar solar]

Just for the stats yess

[pulsar solar]

Try whatever you like. I wanted more wards

I tried stymied too it wasn’t for me

[flint turret]

Not trying to be offensive but the planner just looks boring, it doesn't use anything from 1.4 that it can offer. No doppel helm, no doppel relic, no flow, no ds

[drowsy wind]

if it works it works tho

[flint turret]

Or more like a "safe" version

That works without experimenting

[drowsy wind]

it requires a bunch of specific gear aswell

[pulsar solar]

What should I use from 1.4 ? Hmmmm

[drowsy wind]

in other news, i managed to drop fulgurite + TT froma single prophecy hence swapped to electroc lawnmover

[pulsar solar]

It’s a endgame build

I can send a video later

[drowsy wind]

yeas i assumed so

[gaunt mesa]

does "Reflection" passive that gives 10% less hit dmg taken work on DoTs?
According to the wording it shouldn't but on LE tools it is included in ehp calculations for DoTs

[zenith rivet]

pls do, i would like to check it out in action

[flint turret]

I mean if it's your first time playing lm that's perfectly fine, otherwise I would expect people running lm in 1.4 to use the specific tech from 1.4 like I mentioned above

It might not be "bis" but it's at least new

[pulsar solar]

Sureee

[pulsar solar]

Which specific tech? Aaaa you mean the doppelgänger kit. I don’t need this. Why should I use a builder that’s weaker?

[wary cedar]

is this enough?

[zenith rivet]

going for more shadows could potentially be stronger

[blissful juniper]

just dont get hit

[zenith rivet]

you might need a bit more, like 74% more

[daring blade]

Razorain is a lie. Embrace alloy automation, instead.

(bladestorm nodes)

[pulsar solar]

You can’t spam LM if you not low life

I have already 5 -6shadows

[zenith rivet]

Do you mean because of the mana you ger from Shift?

[oak plume]

trying fading brink at 830 corruption and this thing still desyncs

[plush rune]

time to reroll lmao

[oak plume]

i finally got my build working

[pulsar solar]

Yess

[oak plume]

need boots still

[upper talon]

anyone playing bees falconer?

[zenith rivet]

you absolutely can

i was running a similar build in season 2

without low life

[pulsar solar]

Yes it’s possible but it wasn’t defensively not so good and mana management is more annoying

[tawdry badge]

I have also yet to see a single razorfall after 100s of unique boots

[pulsar solar]

And with 24% CD recovery you will have mana issues

[zenith rivet]

mana management was indeed a bit rough but doable defense wise i would say it was similar. i was using Titan Heart so i had lots fo hp and some dmg reduction as welll

[pulsar solar]

With 16-18 Cd recovery it works

[pulsar solar]

I have tried that tooo. I’ll try to send a gameplay video

[drowsy wind]

is it me or umbral blades don't actually land where cursor is?

[amber solstice]

Before this, 6 daggers also had 1 skill

[pulsar solar]

https://youtu.be/XT5wFtvkRNA

@zenith rivet you asked for a video. do you want a longer video?

[zenith rivet]

that one is fine, i mostly wanted to see how the build plays right now

thank you

[pulsar solar]

whats your opinion?

[zenith rivet]

i like it, i was pretty much playing the same version. Same skills just not Low life.

Your version is away stronger

[pulsar solar]

Thank you. Omen is where it shine. It makes soo much fun

[buoyant roost]

hmm the Shadow Rend -> Loose Pockets node does not work it seems. It does not cast anything, Umbral or Shuriken. I have it on 100%. Anyone tried?

[wary cedar]

it's because you have the "Night's Approach" Node skilled

it says "doesnt move you anymore" no move no "Loose Pocket" procc

But still does say that "Shadow Rush" still moves you

i already asked in the dev channel about it, no answer yet

most likley a bug, or unclear descriptions

[atomic remnant]

Whole game is still a mess in terms of performance. I just learned to accept it for what it is. The epic gameplay helps with that.

[buoyant roost]

I removed the "Night's approach." Still doesn't work 🙁