Yeah, I tried this build before the patch and wasn't causing any issues.
#🔪┃rogue
rocky zealot
wary cedar
i m using this atm, it always cast umbral blades, why man 😭
coarse grove
Anyone who tried, is Deadly aim or Bladed Shield spec is better for Shurikens?
covert furnace
Does Bladestorm's Shuriken Storm need Alloy Animation if you are using Blade Shield?
coarse grove
nah
alloy animation if you just trying to play bladestorm as is
shuriken storm scales off shuriken tree
covert furnace
Ok, so without alloy the storms cannot multihit but shurikens from multiple storms can still hit?
coarse grove
yes
covert furnace
Anyone who tried, is Deadly aim or Bladed Shield spec is better for Shurikens?
Bladed Shield DOES circle around the storm so I have been liking the damage from there
coarse grove
ive been playing bladed shield up until i traveled to the top and clicked deadly aim
its just so much more clear
wise echo
Bladed Shield DOES circle around the storm so I have been liking the damage from...
Thats great.
Does the Kuzon set change DS bleed to ignite too?
coarse grove
also with Deadly Aim you have an opportunity to click ricochet later
for even more clear
finite arch
man rend costs so much mana
covert furnace
What I'm going to try for clear speed is the artifact that makes Bladestorm also throw explosive trap and then explosive trap into detonating arrow mana arrow
topaz schooner
What does corrupted do exactly? Any extra stats?
coarse grove
ye tests will be done for sure later, but the basic spec is still blade + shuriken so
wise echo
What does corrupted do exactly? Any extra stats?
It CAN give an extra corrupted affix.(One of the item available or one of the exclusive corrupted affixes)
It can also max all the affixes in the item.
Like these, it was 9% on the DS area before corruption, the corruption maxed all affixes.
topaz schooner
It CAN give an extra corrupted affix.(One of the item available or one of the ex...
Can you still force 1 mod on 1 LP uniques
topaz schooner
Not related to corruption
Haven't played in a few seasons did they ever nerf the LP change
wise echo
No
topaz schooner
Oof
wise echo
There was no mention of them nerfing it
topaz schooner
That was the worst change they've done in a while
wise echo
That was the worst change they've done in a while
I see you didn't understand, you can still select one mod
No, they didn't change it.
finite arch
gilded sequoia
Hot
covert furnace
waow
wary cedar
think i need better bow lol
i m using this rn
rugged pollen
everything works lol
devout python
Shadow Rend is really mana hungry but feels very good
I was going to use DS but I might spam SR instead late game
blazing locust
does it say anywhere if the animation of summoning the shadow gets faster somehow from a given stat ?
wary cedar
does it say anywhere if the animation of summoning the shadow gets faster someho...
should be attack speed
blazing locust
so if yo ugot high as it should be instant more or less ?
i was worried about the slowness of the initial "cast"
wary cedar
i hope so, i m using that as traversal lol
but so far it feels like it's getting faster compared to me lv 3
blazing locust
okay, i'll try investing in it as well see how it goes
the bladestorm shuriken idea also sounded good
finite arch
i m using this rn
you shadow rend? cause right now i feel like its slowing down at lvl 31
wary cedar
you shadow rend? cause right now i feel like its slowing down at lvl 31
as traversal only instead of shift
i m using puncture until i get heartseeker
finite arch
oh i was using shurikens lol
wary cedar
i have shurikens skilled as well
but the node from shadow rend "loose pocket" dont seem to work
i never get shuri procc with it
crimson latch
i hope so, i m using that as traversal lol
how does feel as traversal?
wary cedar
how does feel as traversal?
distance isnt great
makes up for it with the 2nd charge
depending on how fast i can cast it late game it should be competetive with shift
finite arch
oh im following a dif build then
wary cedar
oh im following a dif build then
you doing heartseeker?
blazing locust
shuriken storm + blade shield should work right
finite arch
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/owL2zReN this @wary cedar
sharp ravenBOT
blazing locust
so the bladestorm has circling shuris
jagged sedge
there's some heavy lag
coarse grove
so the bladestorm has circling shuris
yes it works like that but the clear is kinda bad
pulsar solar
Hmmmmm 😋
silent relic
Any way for cascade and bladestorm to work together ?
night spruce
How is rogue looking for bossing?
great
just squishier than lich prolly
is this shuriken tree fine to run if you focus on shurikens for bleed? or do you guys think pierce is needed?
wary cedar
@flint turret 
tulip edge
what we thinking bladedancer or falconer for bladestorm build
blazing locust
is this shuriken tree fine to run if you focus on shurikens for bleed? or do you...
I think pierce is quite a good investment - maybe im wrong but it makes them hit more times ?
gusty fox
Hey
What are u all playing build?
Idk what is worth to play
now i'm focusing on umbrals
tulip edge
im thinking shurikens, smoke bomb, umbral blades, bladestorm and now trying to find a 5th to use
finite arch
yea i do no dmg lol
night spruce
I think pierce is quite a good investment - maybe im wrong but it makes them hit...
They only hit once per target
thin quartz
if you run blade storm + shuriken, this 3 node is free damage
night spruce
if you run blade storm + shuriken, this 3 node is free damage
for ailments, do you want chakram?
dont think you do?
wary cedar
i need 6 more passive points for heartseeker
gusty fox
😄
devout python
Do you guys like the new option to use Dancing Strike without moving? Or do you keep using the old version?
thin quartz
for ailments, do you want chakram?
i dont think you want your shuriken to be on ailments. they have too little hits
crimson latch
<@502432741951012880> <:omegalul:570776988327870475>
Bruh i thought it was like 60+ drop
gusty fox
im not liking shadow rend that much it seems lacking
i'm not using it
it give me only
bonuses ;d
wary cedar
Bruh i thought it was like 60+ drop
getting it random is one thing, getting it one the legendary you want is a different story
i have so low attack speed and crit, i barely procc it atm xd
tulip edge
bonuses ;d
only think for that i can think of is hidden blades and the dusk shroud
gusty fox
only think for that i can think of is hidden blades and the dusk shroud
yea ;d
but idk what i want play
later
now i'm just leveling with that
How unlock this 5 slots?
thin quartz
How unlock this 5 slots?
welcome to LE
you cant. that's the LE special
finite arch
ok i screwed up somewhere
scenic smelt
Anyone blowing stuff up with shadow rend yet?
finite arch
@wary cedar am i doing something wrong. it took like 5 minutes to kill mini boss just before desert waystone
my rend is 3k dps and puncture is 680
wary cedar
my rend is 3k dps and puncture is 680
i have around the same stats
thin quartz
my rend is 3k dps and puncture is 680
melee or range?
finite arch
range
thin quartz
during leveling, you gotta use puncture for bleed
max these 3 node that i circled. get 1 point into frenzy for free attack speed
thin quartz
then pop bladestorm for more bleed stack
thin quartz
can still progress good lol
good and quick/fast is not the same
finite arch
im not doing bladestorm
thin quartz
im not doing bladestorm
rend is kinda iffy i think... on early stages
wise echo
Dancing Strikes is much better now, it actually hits the enemies omg
night spruce
i dont think you want your shuriken to be on ailments. they have too little hits
What do you mean too little hits, there's literally 7 avg hits per
thin quartz
What do you mean too little hits, there's literally 7 avg hits per
its a proc, i dont think you want to depend on proc to apply ailments. you want something that you can spam to keep applying it over and over again.
grand valley
Do some people still use Puncture as their primary damage skill?
night spruce
its a proc, i dont think you want to depend on proc to apply ailments. you want ...
Dancing strikes is pretty much spamming them
night spruce
Do some people still use Puncture as their primary damage skill?
its not bad yea
thin quartz
Dancing strikes is pretty much spamming them
you're using DS/BS/shuriken for ailments?
night spruce
you're using DS/BS/shuriken for ailments?
Shuriken, SC and shift and dancing strikes triggering the former two
night spruce
this man is
thin quartz
Shuriken, SC and shift and dancing strikes triggering the former two
idk if ailments will be good end game but you can try. unsure since new season. do it!
night spruce
idk if ailments will be good end game but you can try. unsure since new season. ...
The new flow upgrade kinda enables it, but i'm okay swapping to hits if it sucks
wise echo
Someone is playing dancing strike ?
Me.
sharp ravenBOT
night spruce
feedback welcome
thin quartz
im getting every corrupt other than a bow
got lucky with this. the flat bow damage carrying me hard.
2 hs and i clear screen
night spruce
ngl its so nice with DS feeling like a real ability now
finite arch
got lucky with this. the flat bow damage carrying me hard.
im just rng gapped ......
night spruce
nice levelling axe 😄
night spruce
what yall putting for a dancing strikes build ?
Thoughts?
blazing locust
so dancing strikes procs shuris and cascade
cascade scales from the burning daggers set in a way
blazing locust
which was pulse
night spruce
the flow 5th
little flower
sweet crit multi
night spruce
t4 life bleeding heart? ill take it
finite arch
holy
wary lynx
the flow 5th
I might be being stupid here, what do you mean the flow 5th?
night spruce
I might be being stupid here, what do you mean the flow 5th?
Pulse on passive tree
Flow is multiplicative with Pulse
so that kinda incentivizes thick dot builds
night spruce
gotta go through the questline sir
eyo
rift beasts now randomly drop primordials
why do i get a 72 chest in my act 3 area xD
wary cedar
free of story now
slow sierra
gotta get +2 all stats
wary cedar
maybe not, gotta get the faction one day xd
crimson latch
finall
playing wohoo
is this fake? i can't see it at shop i want to buy evverything
night spruce
seems like incomplete
prolly placeholder
oh how convenient, you can hold DS and click cascade whenever you just see flow at 4. neat.
finite arch
maybe not, gotta get the faction one day xd
you just swapping to heartseeker as main dmg?
thin quartz
i just wanna let you guys know... i broke my shoe
finite arch
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/owL2zReN you doing this build or something else?
sharp ravenBOT
wary cedar
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/owL2zReN you doing this build or somethin...
that's no heartseeker build
thin quartz
oh god.. what is this...................
finite arch
well that explaines alot
wary cedar
i m doing thunder/cold heartseeker 🔥
wary cedar
- lightning
finite arch
just testing rend on story?
finite arch
oh you cooked up a build
wary cedar
oh you cooked up a build
i just took regular heartseeker and mixed it up a bit around the corrupted shuri affix
idk if it's going to be much better
but at least reaquires "some" grind to get going lol
honest salmon
does shadow dagger kills trigger on kill affects for the skill that triggers it
like this
slow sierra
probably not since shadow dagger does not even get more multipliers from the proc'd skill
I think it is one ailment that is uniquely separate from trees
honest salmon
side note, shadow daggers shadow rend feeling real good
i was spawning a ton of shadows so i grabbed the umbral blade spawn on shadow, and using shift to recall
one shotting campaign bosses damn near
atomic remnant
Newbie here !
What's a build i can go for that's a nimble rogue that zooms around and fires a rain of arrows from above ?
Also open to any build that's easy to pilot, mobile, and not very gear dependent. 🙏
thin quartz
Newbie here !
What's a build i can go for that's a nimble rogue that zooms arou...
HoA build
you can google for this skill build
finite arch
i should of just went bladestorm
thin quartz
i should of just went bladestorm
that's what i told you earlier for leveling
once you unlock HS with puncture, your clear speed gonna sky rocket
by then you use BM for bosses
finite arch
oh no i meant like the build bladestorm
unique umbra
How is rend for zooming campaign? I haven’t had a chance to play yet and probably won’t for another 5 hrs.
night spruce
first ascendance rune baby
finite arch
my whole build is now screwed
thin quartz
How is rend for zooming campaign? I haven’t had a chance to play yet and probabl...
awkward skill
thin quartz
my whole build is now screwed
why is it screwed? you can change your mastery if you want to
finite arch
thin quartz
multishot is dead when heartseeker came.
finite arch
well i was doing multi cause of the shadow rend
i was just following the build ragu made
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/owL2zReN which was this one
sharp ravenBOT
thin quartz
oh.. him... lmao
thin quartz
might have to wait for people to start to learn how to use rend.
finite arch
ok welp i guess ill just play cold HS then lmao
wary cedar
ok welp i guess ill just play cold HS then lmao
do with lightning on top
to be special
✨
finite arch
theres a lightning build?
atomic remnant
Is ice heartseeker marksman still good ?
finite arch
no clue
thin quartz
Is ice heartseeker marksman still good ?
yes. nothing change for that build
finite arch
holy HS is so strong still
wide yacht
Kuzon's Fury makes dancing strikes look so good for no reason btw
wish there was a way to keep that flame effect without actually using the item lol
blazing pilot
Is Shift good for anything at all? It feels like if you’re wanting the dash, both Smoke Bomb and Shadow Rend do it better, the first for utility and the second for offense/charges. Am I missing something?
What does shift actually offer these days that the others don’t?
coarse grove
So, did anyone feel like blade shield or deadly aim is better?
assuming anyone actually clicked deadly aim at all
left sun
my first corrupted item
thin quartz
oh wow. LETools removed the function to check people's gear on this season
flint turret
i was just following the build ragu made
i dont think it works for leveling, multishot drains too much mana. Im currently still melee on MM with rend at lvl ~45, waiting for a drelkors. Melee rend feels amazing tho
and aiming for multishot shadows is not that great sadly too
drelcors and mourningfrost will help a lot ofc, but overall multishot rend might not be as great as expected
finite arch
yea i swapped to just HS build. with rend as traverse skill
coarse grove
-throw cost affix is so rare
pseudo nexus
Why did EHG put :3 in the node description? (jk)
flint turret
yea i swapped to just HS build. with rend as traverse skill
i would have swapped to hs too, but i got too addicted to melee rend cascade even on mm works great
i guess ill roll eith it until i get drelks
left sun
Anyone else having mega frame rate issues when using blade storm?
analog jacinth
Shadow massacre in shadow rend doesn’t consume shadows if you spam and you cast the next shadow rend before the previous shadow does its fallow up attack🗿
finite arch
send it
analog jacinth
lol, useless node
flint turret
Shadow massacre in shadow rend doesn’t consume shadows if you spam and you cast ...
before rend shadow makes an attack its not considered a "shadow" for skills that can use it
it turns into a regular shadow only after its attack
analog jacinth
before rend shadow makes an attack its not considered a "shadow" for skills that...
Hidden strength still works though
flint turret
Hidden strength still works though
like how?
are you consuming it before it attacks or what
hollow palm
does this node actually works?
i didnt saw it proc a single time despite me being far enough
analog jacinth
like how?
Let me explain: in the first case, if you use Shadow Rend even once so that a shadow ignores it and doesn't use Shadow Cascade, the shadows will become bugged and won't react to Shadow Massacre Node again until all the shadows are gone. If you use Hidden Streangth, you can absorb the shadows at any time if they've already did their attack. I hope I've made this clear.😅
flint turret
I was running rend cascade for hours and I didn't notice such an issue
Maybe something else is required
wise echo
Dancing Strikes got the warpath bug. you can get stuck on air
flint turret
It looks more like you run out of mana for cascade
analog jacinth
It looks more like you run out of mana for cascade
Oh, thanks
flint turret
It won't cast if you are in negatives
I got -4 to manacost and -10 in smoke, and traversal smoke
Along with +6 mana on cascade shadow usage I can spam it pretty well in smoke
analog jacinth
Still though, I think hidden strength has a lot more potential🤔
flint turret
Sadly not the case for multishot, that thing just drains like no other
flint turret
Still though, I think hidden strength has a lot more potential🤔
Maybe
Everything needs testing
unique umbra
Is it faster to campaign with a 2hander or dual wielding?
flint turret
Depends on weapons itself, both worked great on me for rend
candid pebble
I'm really enjoying Bladestorm. Anyone else running it this season?
coarse grove
i felt like more people would play shuriken + bladestorm combo but guess not
analog jacinth
I think smoke bomb + shadow rend + shadow cascade looks also quite promising 🤔
honest salmon
I think smoke bomb + shadow rend + shadow cascade looks also quite promising 🤔
oh hi
playing shadow daggers
could probably swap out blades for bladestorm
flint turret
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/owL2zReN which was this one
Might have to swap to shift with umbrals recall from traversal smoke to help with mana at least a bit. I didn't expect multishot draining mana so much, might not even be enough. Will need to seriously think about mana sustain
Too many shadows multishoting
hollow palm
noone run this and this is not working?
flint turret
It works for me at least
finite arch
are u guys doing the monster rifts?
hollow palm
It works for me at least
melee or range?
flint turret
are u guys doing the monster rifts?
Yeah it's a decent source of runes and you will need bones anyway
flint turret
melee or range?
Melee
hollow palm
lol i wasnt able to spawn it a single time
or am i missing something
rend > shift > cascade?
or just run instead of shift
flint turret
I almost didn't play ranged, I logged in on a legasy after patch dropped, tried multishot lost all my mana in seconds and understood it won't work for leveling kekw
flint turret
rend > shift > cascade?
Wait are you casting cascade manually?
analog jacinth
could probably swap out blades for bladestorm
Abusing shadowstorm node?🤔
flint turret
Or with shift rather?
flint turret
That node will only work if you consume with rend
hollow palm
i didnt read shadow massacre properly
yeah i see it now
thank you
it was driving me crazy
damn this is not what i wanted
flint turret
Yeah it works a bit weird anyway. Net being able to use the shadow right away because it's not a real shadow yet is unusual for rogue
Need to get used to it
left sun
had a 4 mod haste body armor corrupted it now it just dead, best league can't wait to break more armor!
analog jacinth
Can you somehow convert shadow dagger to lightning?😅
rancid girder
anyone know about umbral blades on how much of the tree translates to bladestorm? cause the tooltip doesnt seem clear
left quail
has anyone tried the node "slagstorm" from bladestorm? Throwing umbra blades into bladestorms dont seem to do anything
hollow palm
Yeah it works a bit weird anyway. Net being able to use the shadow right away be...
it seems like other node, about damage per shadow, has insane potential
you can kinda doubleprofit from every shadow from sync strike
looks like shadow cascade is no longer needed lol
flint turret
doble profit like how?
hollow palm
hmhm
no wait
sync strike increasing shadow damage
does consuming them will "save" this buff for hidden strength too?
idk
it probably should, per tooltip on rend
jaunty glen
Just logging in now, is there a good starter I can play as a bow enjoyer?
thin quartz
Just logging in now, is there a good starter I can play as a bow enjoyer?
blade storm + puncture leveling till you unlock heartseeker
after that its up to you entirely
left sun
Just logging in now, is there a good starter I can play as a bow enjoyer?
I am going bladestorm using this and swapping to explosive trap-bow
jaunty glen
blade storm + puncture leveling till you unlock heartseeker
True, thanks guys, I remember Heartseeker from before might be fun
iron crane
which of this is better for end game?
raw magnet
The one you'll have more fun playing. 🤯
analog jacinth
Remind me, if indirect use of shadow cascade restore mana?
Through fight in the shadow node
iron crane
The one you'll have more fun playing. 🤯
i dont know actually because i dont have much time to play thats why im asking. I can only run 1 build and im still new to the game.
raw magnet
Ehhh for someone without much time I wouldn't run either of those, but that's just me.
blissful juniper
Yeah it works a bit weird anyway. Net being able to use the shadow right away be...
ok yea rend feels like trash without attack speed and the mana cost is crazy, its prob something ill come back to once I have sufficient items but def not right now
flint turret
ok yea rend feels like trash without attack speed and the mana cost is crazy, it...
dunno, i love it so far
analog jacinth
does consuming them will "save" this buff for hidden strength too?
Even if so, you will loose a lot of shadow dagger damage🫱🏻 And a lot more, because you couldn’t spam. Synchronized strike is extremely expensive
flint turret
at least the melee cascade one
loosing faith in the multishot one tho
Maybe shurikens will be able to carry it dunno
blissful juniper
loosing faith in the multishot one tho
yea I mean the multishot one
should have clarified
flint turret
Leveling with sd melee rend was fun too. 2 sd stack in big aoe hit+3ghost blades per cast
With a 2-hander
flint turret
yea I mean the multishot one
I just tested in legacy, I somewhat can manage mana sustain with the initial planner with slight alterations
Adding mana on hs recurve allows to spam it on a dummy for like 20 seconds
And sapping strikes
But it's still not nearly impressive
Aiming of shadows is pretty decent tho, could have been worse
kind adder
Kinda struggling tryna level with dancing strikes 😭 it's just so clunky on controller
flint turret
Is it good to level with now?
kind adder
It's fine for clear, have to pair with puncture or something else for single target
I'm sure it's better on mkb
hollow palm
Even if so, you will loose a lot of shadow dagger damage🫱🏻 And a lot more, bec...
well i played such a build (sync strike > cascade) like 2 leagues ago and every cascade did like 100k crit x5 shadows, so i was two-shotting everything
kind adder
Controller is difficult because you can't control distance
hollow palm
probably now it can be pushed at least x2 or even more
floral cypress
does falconer survavilty gets better at some point or do I straight quit and go back to trusted paladin
blazing locust
how can I select cof if i've got 15/15 and 8/8 but havent completed campaign
was there a trick or i had to get to majelka
tulip hollow
ya you gotta get further into campaign
or you can go to monos until you get a temporal sanctum key and skip a bunch'
blazing locust
-_-
carmine kelp
any enthusiasts willing to help me piece a build together?
im trying to have something that would create shadows and play around them casting shurikens as the main source of damage
errant pollen
Anyone know if Umbral blades is usable as a primary damage skill with the shift recall this season?
uncut notch
how's heartseeker for season 4?
finite arch
how's heartseeker for season 4?
still pretty good
potent hemlock
How do I make Shuriken deal more damage? I don't think I'm supposed to spend a bit over a minute fighting a random echo boss lol
hollow palm
How do I make Shuriken deal more damage? I don't think I'm supposed to spend a b...
use any skills with shadow daggers early before u ramp ur items and lvl
shadow daggers broken as always
potent hemlock
I swear mine weren't doing that much damage too
I'm wondering if my filter is just too shit
desert hazel
Make sure if you are doing shadow daggers you are scaling crit multi
potent hemlock
Grabbed the one for the leveling build on Maxroll but I haven't seen much drop
now that I think of it lol
desert hazel
Then 2 Kris will be what you want for shadow daggers leveling
potent hemlock
I specced out of Deadly Aim for Blade Shield atm and it works way better for now
desert hazel
Traitors tongue is a unique to look out for
potent hemlock
Blew through 11 runes already :despairge:
analog jacinth
well i played such a build (sync strike > cascade) like 2 leagues ago and every ...
You can’t use cascade with hidden strength, and without cascade you don’t get mana replenish🫱🏻
hollow palm
You can’t use cascade with hidden strength, and without cascade you don’t get ma...
yeah that what i meant when i said cascade may not be needed anymore
i think there will be a plenty of other ways to get mana
analog jacinth
i think there will be a plenty of other ways to get mana
I don’t see those🤔
But if you find…
hollow palm
i used blessing for mana and i believe i had shift node or something to restore a bit of mana
and i felt enough for 80 mana sync strike + cascade
idk will see
analog jacinth
i used blessing for mana and i believe i had shift node or something to restore ...
Do you take +2 shadow node in synchronized strike?
hollow palm
i never took mana replenish nodes on cascade, felt like a waste
yes
i had like 200 total mana which was enough for two casts
on monolitth everything dies at one
even when they added that stypid shield
on bosses i used puncture as a filler i guess, there's mana node there + armor shred + phys res shred + frenzy
potent hemlock
I see where this bladestorm shuriken is kinda going, but hmm
hollow palm
I swear mine weren't doing that much damage too
lvl 44, just shadow daggers damage
potent hemlock
Shadow daggers?
Ah, yeah, I see
My damage during campaign wasn't bad, but I feel like it should have been at least twice as high
Anyways, going blade shield kinda fixed damage and clear for now, being melee is kinda scary though
coarse grove
eh was thinking using shadow rend as movement skill but there is just not enough useful points
finite arch
so whats the plan now with this? still go right side?
uncut pebble
Feel like dancing strike would feel better to use, if it had auto-target the nearest mob instead
delicate onyx
Feel like dancing strike would feel better to use, if it had auto-target the nea...
in what situation? If you dont wanna move just keep the curser close to you
uncut pebble
on controller
errant pollen
Does anyone know how Dagger Dance from Shadow Cascade works with the Rending node if you take Porcupine's Wrath?
delicate onyx
on controller
ohh I see, you have to hold it steady it, that sucks
uncut pebble
dont usually have problems wiht controllers... Tried flay last season and that one works wonderfully
i can see dancing strike workin like Flay
topaz schooner
How do I make Shuriken deal more damage? I don't think I'm supposed to spend a b...
use SD until you get gear
potent hemlock
Yeah, I should have stayed with whatever combo I was using before
Gonna roll a heartseeker regardless, just finished watching Trikster's day 1 update and doesn't look like something I'm gonna enjoy in a day or two
topaz schooner
anyone using shadow rend?
delicate onyx
anyone using shadow rend?
yeah but Iam still leveling
deft grotto
Shadowstorm doesnt work with hurricane of blades (channeling shadow cascade)
topaz schooner
32 people named jenebu on ladder holy
terse bloom
what do we like better chakram vs blade shield
raw magnet
32 people named jenebu on ladder holy <:omegalul:570776988327870475>
What's the significance of the name? I don't recognize it
topaz schooner
What's the significance of the name? I don't recognize it
richest player in poe history, long history of RMT and monetizing the mirror service, owner and founder of TFT
raw magnet
People need to touch grass, holy.
topaz schooner
he got banned
for real this time
had an absolutely insane meltdown
now hes a meme in every arpg community
errant pollen
Is it possible to put the Corsair's Set bonus on items other than hat and shield?
delicate onyx
richest player in poe history, long history of RMT and monetizing the mirror ser...
he founded teamfight tactics?
raw magnet
I have 6k hours in PoE and never cared enough to know about this. People have too much time on their hands, and I understand the irony of saying that with 6k hours in one game lol
topaz schooner
I have 6k hours in PoE and never cared enough to know about this. People have t...
whats painful is that 6k hours on poe is light
raw magnet
Right? Kappa.
topaz schooner
but yes poe players need to touch grass
raw magnet
All right. 2 more hours of my shift and then back to bladestormin
topaz schooner
and get a girlfriend, a job, both
errant pollen
So super rough outline planning for starting the season tomorrow, could anyone give me some tips/suggestions on missing slot items or replacements?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q9J1LrvY
I'm looking to do a bleed stacking, throwing build around umbral blades. Shadow cascade cast from the lethal mirage & shift. Throw blades, shift thru boss, pop lethal with extra damage from bleed stacks
sharp ravenBOT
candid pebble
i felt like more people would play shuriken + bladestorm combo but guess not
It's a shame, once I got the shuriken node things died a lot faster
Harton just evaporated when he wasn't Warded
left sun
the 0 gear build op
carmine kelp
I’m currently theorycrafting a bladestorm+shurkines build
topaz schooner
Did they ever add a way of farming runes of havoc or what is the best method for those in s4? @flint turret
carmine kelp
But it’s hard to tell how well that’s going
Ima see tomorrow if I can get some nerd build maker to help me polish it lol
silk coral
@flint turret how’s shadow rend shadow daggers? Havent played rn
topaz schooner
@rotund plover you playin LE s4?
rotund plover
yes sir but playing mage
topaz schooner
yes sir but playing mage
which build? 👀
me and doorhinge might play groupsf this season
but
i just put 500 hours into a poe league so a little arpg burnt
i was thinking about trying thorn totems
or mana strike spellblade
rotund plover
probably runemaster something
i want to try the blackhole build
ill go back to falconer after probably
eager mason
rancid girder
has anyone tried out slagstorm? it doesnt seem like extra stacks of the buffs add more than the initial 4 seconds
eager mason
gametime
my practice run was 8:48
I think this season you can get under 8
after they fix the game
rugged pollen
quiet briar
oh forgot to post it
Is the clear decent with recall?
rotund plover
oh forgot to post it
nice work
ebon moon
is bladestorm or shadow cascade bd better?
pine hatch
oh forgot to post it
First uber kill again?
eager mason
yeah
eager mason
forgot to change scene on the first recording so here is the second kill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQAoifQu6jc
lyric smelt
which skill should I use for leveling
earnest moth
forgot to change scene on the first recording so here is the second kill <:omega...
what's mono clear like on the build?
terse bloom
lean wagon
little flower
forgot to change scene on the first recording so here is the second kill <:omega...
another season of falconer OP lol
little flower
their balance is...interesting
analog jacinth
God damn, why the new rogue skills so mana heavy? The only build that can more or less sustain some spam is hidden strength shadow rend😓
And then you cannot combine it with bladestorm, coz you don’t use cascade nor umbral blade
If you want to, then you need to put into shadow massacre, but it is triple more mana consuming and above that you need to use bladestorm which is also ridiculously expensive😓
I, am not kidding, start to think of building bladestorm with dancing strikes to sustain shadow pop and shadow cascade proc
Oh, and then you need 20 mana every 5 sec for smoke bomb… maybe I should think of taking net to save 15 mana on it🌜
crimson latch
any1 having trouble with paste filter into the game
hazy agate
anyone knows/has a build of a bow+shadows build?
cyan wren
@zenith bridge Shurikening Day 1
magic carbon
Mornin'
anyone else has the problem that shadows created by shadow cascade -> gloomstalker don't do anything?
according to the tooltip they should also trigger on indirect cascades
gusty fox
day one 0 dmg 🙁
bleak wadi
Is it viable to play bladestorm and dancing strikes in terms of damage scaling even though one is melee and other throwing?
coral tundra
forgot to change scene on the first recording so here is the second kill <:omega...
wow gg !
cyan wren
forgot to change scene on the first recording so here is the second kill <:omega...
wait wtf they buffed Razor Shadow Daggers again?
hazy agate
is there any shadow rend bow build? that shit looks so fun
gusty fox
Hey i used leveling guide from terek. Now i have 70 lvl can i swap in any better build? bladedancer
left sun
anyone else keeps running into unkillable enemies?
thin quartz
anyone tried slam WITH corrupted items? cant be done right? just double checking and not wanting to waste my key
night spruce
hmm
Dancing strikes mana is a bit harder to sustain now
i think arena > rhythm now
silk coral
Any review on shadow rend’s shadow daggers? Havent played atm
daring yew
wary cedar
has anyone tried "loose pockets" from shadow rend? just looking for confirmation that it's bugged
flint turret
is there any shadow rend bow build? that shit looks so fun
i have couple of planners but none tested ingame yet
can dm if interested
also dread had muptishot rend lowlife video on yt
so far it looks rough tbh. maybe shurikens on bow crit can become a gamechanger
flint turret
<@502432741951012880> how’s shadow rend shadow daggers? Havent played rn
i leveled with it before i got to cascade, pretty decent
big aoe hit for 2 sd stacks followed by 3 ghost blades for another 3 stacks, one-hsotting rares
even on p2
flint turret
Did they ever add a way of farming runes of havoc or what is the best method for...
dunno, havent seen anything about that in patch notes so its probably a no
topaz schooner
dunno, havent seen anything about that in patch notes so its probably a no
sadge
hazy agate
also dread had muptishot rend lowlife video on yt
Yeah there is a maxroll multishot build with shurikens for buffs but I'm only just leveling atm
flint turret
Yeah there is a maxroll multishot build with shurikens for buffs but I'm only ju...
dont bother with it for leveling, its pretty bad
im rolling melee rend on my mm so far lvl 45 or smth
melee rend feels good indeed
if i wont be satisfied with what i can make from multishit ill swap to traversal melee entirely in bd
silk coral
No mana issue? Did you take -mana inside smokebomb?
flint turret
hopefully shuri on crit corrupt can carry multishot tho
flint turret
No mana issue? Did you take -mana inside smokebomb?
i did
traversal smoke, -4 mana and -10 mana. Cascades give +1 mana for each shadow too
blazing locust
how is dancing strikes in monos (emp)
patent ledge
is it possible to indirectly cast bladestorm? if so, how?
thin quartz
i believe they are gonna nerf the omen encounter
long oxide
Any rogue build that mainly uses shdowrend?
desert oasis
any good build for roque ?
tulip hollow
does merchant guild favour not transfer to legacy server?
i wanted to test some stuff but i can't equip any items cause no rank and no favour 😒
analog jacinth
No mana issue? Did you take -mana inside smokebomb?
I spent all morning testing this. Mana is primarily spent on bombs. If I use a cascade node with +6 mana cashback per shadow, shadow spawns from bombs(may be overkill), and a 60% chance to recast a shadow after activation node (it's important that this node only works reliably if I use another node that throws your shadows 5m forward, giving them a 50% chance to auto-recast), my mana will fluctuate quite a bit, easily from 100 to 10 in a second, with high attack speed. Therefore, I recommend having at least 150 max mana to avoid suddenly going into negative territory, where the cascade no longer activates and therefore no longer restores mana (which is quite realistic). It's also important to note that in this build, I'd recommend making bombs a traverse skill, as they can activate Ghost Blades (you can, of course, use dash, but it's not very convenient). The tricky thing about Ghost Blades is that if you activate them through a traverse skill, they'll roll indefinitely until they reach 0, which can easily be countered, giving you an additional, stable source of Shadow Dagger.
However, for now, I'm forced to recharge my mana through Puncture every 5sec. The mana management there is pretty brutal.
daring blade
What is the behavior of shurikens fired from blade storm when you have the blade shield node? Do they circle the blade storm?
rugged pollen
they do
daring blade
That's... nuts. That's so much damage.
I know what I'm switching to when I get on tomorrow.
blazing locust
@zenith bridge respecced to chakram I think for better clear
daring blade
I personally am running the node for multi hitting with a salvo. The self cast damage is very high with that.
quiet torrent
is there any good way to consume shadow rend's shadows?
north tree
Doppel set is insane I have no survival issues as im getting 60+ dusk stacks
lyric stag
guys what is the most trusted rogue bladestorm build so far ?
is it maxroll or trickster or lizard
silk coral
I spent all morning testing this. Mana is primarily spent on bombs. If I use a c...
So far can you say it is can go far in corruption? Or just leveling
limber parrot
Hey guys, is there an "easy" way to "fix" clear? I made a build that uses bladestorm and dancing strike to stack shadow daggers but my clear is kinda ass
(in PoE you have explosion for this)
drowsy wind
What is the behavior of shurikens fired from blade storm when you have the blade...
they make a moving shuriken tornado. don't know if it's top tier but it's fun as hell
blazing locust
Hey guys, is there an "easy" way to "fix" clear? I made a build that uses blades...
Havent seen yet a good clear with those
north tree
bladestorm seemed kinda shit when I tested/saw people play it
brittle blaze
Dancing strikes been a total vibe. Just cruising in empowered still haven’t really upgraded my gear but def starting to feel squishy
limber parrot
Dancing strikes been a total vibe. Just cruising in empowered still haven’t real...
Yeah idk if going all in on shadow daggers was a good idea 😄
oak plume
this thing is extremely bugged
brittle blaze
Yeah idk if going all in on shadow daggers was a good idea 😄
I’m doing shadow cascade and shurikens with it and using shadowrend as my movement skill. Invested into the flow nodes and just chilling. If I want I can just hold right click and it’s basically a stutter warpath
oak plume
this thing is extremely bugged
i went from 20 dex to 48 dex and all my other attributes got reset to 2
i corrupted 1 more item and now it gives 12
and when you unequip the item and put it back on all the attributes are just gone
until you equip another corrupted item...
blazing locust
Dancing strikes been a total vibe. Just cruising in empowered still haven’t real...
Yeah but that close melee on a rogue doesnt sound safe 😆
brittle blaze
Yeah but that close melee on a rogue doesnt sound safe 😆
Close melee? It’s all aoe shadows. My dancing strike idols are all aoe
blazing locust
what is your main dmg dealer
brittle blaze
I am hitting them pretty far away, it’s not been an issue at all in the echo chains either. We have two charges of shadowrend and you get a total of shadows. Dancing strike with aoe is really nice plus you can get arena if you want.
limber parrot
Close melee? It’s all aoe shadows. My dancing strike idols are all aoe
Oh yeah I am close melee 😄 No, its not safe
blazing locust
can you clip a quick gameplay - curious what you mean by far away then
brittle blaze
Yeah when I get on in few hours will clip
blazing locust
can you give a hint more or less what's the setup so I can try it out while waiting
brittle blaze
Oh im totally just testing. I like dancing strike. It’s pretty simple you take shadow cascade and shurkiens, using the shadowrend double dash for movement which is really really nice but you aren’t getting the defense from shift. Will clip some gameplay in a but it’s nothing too crazy. Pretty standard bladedancer stuff we don’t gave that many options honestly
I think Bin has a shadow cascade build on his list
It’s more using dancing strike as a buffer though
stiff nexus
I'm following the Shadow Rend bladedancer build from Maxroll
but dear god it just doesn't work
blazing locust
shadpw rend is an L to me - it needed more cooking imo
i dont care if it hits hard - it's clunky
stiff nexus
Tbh atm it's bugged with Keyboard Movement
You can fix the targeting, but it still feels meh
pearl forge
i havent been able to play but it is likely rend is liek LM
and you need to treat it as a combo
if you try to spam it you will have a bad time
stiff nexus
Nah the problem is that you need to play with mouse control, otherwise it goes to your facing direction
blazing locust
combo meanwhile warpath.....
stiff nexus
or you need to make EVERYTHING go in mouse direction, but then dodging sucks
blazing locust
they can't balance for their life 😄
pearl forge
hopefully today after doing some m+ and the uma runs i can finally play
stiff nexus
There's a node i wanna try next level that makes it autotarget, and see i that fixes it
pearl forge
im hyped to update the guide also did anyone find out if that ring can roll +1 shadows yet?
stiff nexus
The big problem in the end i feel is the mana cost is faaaaaar too much
pearl forge
says it can roll champion affixes but maybe only ring ones
stiff nexus
I mean that and the fact that Umbral Blades hit for 10k while everything else crits for 1k
and i don't understand why.
cyan wren
limber parrot
Hmmmh. I might respec this into another build. How bad is it to completely change builds? I should probably farm some ger first right
sage canyon
Guys how can I "solve" mana for non-throwing melee?
umbral blade recall mana and ll shift +sync strike mana ef
or mana generator
yes you have to do it sometimes
carmine kelp
Any enthusiasts here willing to help me make a build?
I’m tinkering with shurkens, bladestorm, shadow rend, shift and smoke bomb
Have some uniques pieced together, but I’m not sure about how I should be planning the rest of the build in terms of passives, affixes, blessings and idols
stiff nexus
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
That's why Shadow Rend sucks for mana regen
If you don't have enough mana to cast Shadow Cascade it just doesn't cast at all
And it has an activation time
From where it's Shadow rend into becoming a Shadow
So if you spam too fast, you make more "shadow rends" but they're not transforming into Shadows to attack with Cascade
Jesus
This is one clunky skill.
abstract elm
man, was glad I dropped a vial of volatile ice early and was going to go for cold acid flask... only to see the Instruments of the Alchemist brutally nerfed
finite arch
oh no. how
snow ember
My prediction: Kuzon's Dancing Strikes will be worse than regular crit Dancing Strikes late game
If it was unique instead of set this would not be the case
crimson latch
Si bladestorm sc is the most op build isnt
lyric stag
any planners for good stable bladestorm build ? detailed
lapis kite
is bladestorm that crazy strong/dominating then?
lyric stag
as i watehcd on youtube yeah it is fun but idk who to follow
lizard or trickster
different passive tree for blade dancer
and am newbie idk how to make build m self
my self
if someone got any idea which planner to follow better i would appreciate bec am confused
crimson latch
i have problems with loot filter wtf
wary cedar
i have problems with loot filter wtf
cool
finite arch
lol
dusky steeple
How bladestrom shuriken in endgame? I kinda suspect it would lack of damage, no?
faint holly
How bladestrom shuriken in endgame? I kinda suspect it would lack of damage, no?
woudnt say lacking , am critting for 100 k with shitty gear
coral tundra
woudnt say lacking , am critting for 100 k with shitty gear
Do you follow the maxroll's build ? I don't really like it
craggy talon
Do you follow the maxroll's build ? I don't really like it
Well there are different builds sure but maxroll it's more or less just middle ground
faint holly
Do you follow the maxroll's build ? I don't really like it
following my own build and still testing stuff
coral tundra
following my own build and still testing stuff
You're too good for me xd
coral tundra
Well there are different builds sure but maxroll it's more or less just middle g...
I'm trying to follow this but i don't have any damage with syncronize burst xd
dusky steeple
woudnt say lacking , am critting for 100 k with shitty gear
That 100k come from shuriken right? Do u change it to chakram?
faint holly
That 100k come from shuriken right? Do u change it to chakram?
bladestorm rn
not a fan of chakram
gonna swap to deadly soon tho
terse bloom
cyan wren
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u94VotLUPLQ
How's Recall Umbral Blades nerfed to unplayable state last league but now its even more OP than the league before?
What did they do exactly.
vagrant junco
New ish player question-
Nodes that say increased movespeed = more or increased damage % does this effect bleed ? Or is bleed based on only Phys% dotmulti%
Playing around bladestotm using bleed & shurikens
Just before I spec into movement nodes
Generally doing good phys hits + bleed so dont know if its worth
terse bloom
How's Recall Umbral Blades nerfed to unplayable state last league but now its ev...
they added crit multi and shadow spawn on recall
carmine kelp
i'd love some opinions on the skill selection and passive tree as well as gear choice so far
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BgROG3Z9
sharp ravenBOT
cyan wren
they added crit multi and shadow spawn on recall
Thanks good to know.
dusty olive
im so confused, im following a guide on a bladestorm/shadow rend/umbral blades leveling thing
and he says that shadow rend in smoke bomb should be refilling my mana but im draining super hard
gilded sequoia
Anyone got a good Weaver tree?
jagged sedge
woudnt say lacking , am critting for 100 k with shitty gear
How?
What's the best way to scale it up?
ashen rampart
do you all play bladestor shurikens with the sync strike or you play with dancing strikes and shadow cascade as shown in trickster build?
tulip sentinel
crimson latch
this can be proc with indirect use?
for example the heartseeker helm that autocast?
blazing locust
corruptions can max out an item...mkay
ebon belfry
so...any thought on how shadow daggers is in this season???
thin quartz
there is something wrong with heartseeker but im not a math guy so i just cant pin point where.
short story:
Basically im playing heartseeker build again for S4, i just feel something is off but i cant put my finger down. thinking probably its just in my head.
then i remember my S2 HS with insane item and since we can corrupt item, i decided to go back to S2 HS to farm a few corruption rune and then corrupt all my gears for fun.
during S2, i speed farm 1.1k corruption, i shoot 2 HS and i shift forward.
Now in S4? im doing like ALOT more HS before my screen is clear at the same 1.1k corruption.
Edit: this is my gear that im trying to corrupt.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/aeonwcs/character/AeonWcs
i already noticed the weaver idol cold pen nerf, during S2 was 6% but i still dont think its just that.
if anyone has any idea/theory, please share.. im not a thinktank gamer
jagged sedge
If you take chakram, does that mean Bladestorm triggers chakrams instead of shurikens
thin quartz
If you take chakram, does that mean Bladestorm triggers chakrams instead of shur...
yes
jagged sedge
Is that better than shurikens?
faint holly
If you take chakram, does that mean Bladestorm triggers chakrams instead of shur...
Exactly
I don't like chakrams deadly oder blade better
jagged sedge
Deadly?
faint holly
Deadly aim
jagged sedge
What does that do?
faint holly
Throws shurikens in a line and can hit the same target
wary cedar
based on recent incidents
halcyon crane
and he says that shadow rend in smoke bomb should be refilling my mana but im dr...
do you have reduced mana while in smoke bomb node clicked?
ebon belfry
any thoughts on shadow daggers this season?? what skills are best to apply them?
flint turret
any thoughts on shadow daggers this season?? what skills are best to apply them?
same as before, good to start, falls off later. Same umbrals, or rend now
ebon belfry
so...not late endgame viable???
eager mason
bladestorm with cascade triggering it is probably gonna be the best
dusty olive
do you have reduced mana while in smoke bomb node clicked?
i ended up figuring it out, i needed to spec shadow cascade mana return and suddenly infinite mana
flint turret
after they buffed cascade there is littke to no reason to use sd tbh, you can just use cascade without having a crit cap and it will be great
dusty olive
build guide didnt actually explain what gives mana
eager mason
but the build falls off as ragu said
flint turret
bladestorm with cascade triggering it is probably gonna be the best
have you tried bladestorm sd btw?
is it decent
ebon belfry
after they buffed cascade there is littke to no reason to use sd tbh, you can ju...
cascade with melee i guess and not the dancing dagger?
eager mason
yeah thats what I lvled with
bladestorm and umbrals sd
and swap to crit once you have the items
flint turret
cascade with melee i guess and not the dancing dagger?
yeah
jagged sedge
have you tried bladestorm sd btw?
What's SD
flint turret
shadow daggers
flint turret
bladestorm and umbrals sd
was it better than before?
jagged sedge
What's the best build rn
eager mason
was it better than before?
single target is better
but its slower since you need to press more than just your movement skill
eager mason
clear was decent
also they changed aerial assault
you cant basically jump from one corner of your screen to other now
flint turret
im in monos with melee rend mm feelsweid man but it works well so far
eager mason
it jumps so little
eager mason
im in monos with melee rend mm feelsweid man but it works well so far
what are you gonna play end game
also why melee on mm
flint turret
im getting everything for melee instead of bow
....
flint turret
the plan is multishot but it doesnt look as good already
so either shurikens will fix it or i wont play it prob
then ill try consume rend with zurial and shurikens and then i guess hs with shurikens
if everything sucks ill go to melee traversal rend which i already like(not traversal yet)
stiff nexus
and he says that shadow rend in smoke bomb should be refilling my mana but im dr...
So it's a mechnical problem about Shadow Rend and the ability to cast the other skill that gives you mana back, because the shadows of Shadow Rend spawn like a second after you cast the skill, so you if you spam Rend, then you'll not have enough mana to cast the other skill and get mana back
So to actually be mana positive you can cast shadow rend just like once a second
jagged sedge
Shadow Rend melee is basically a shittier version of Erasing Strike
flint turret
dunno, i like it
ebon belfry
i use the traversal version so far
stiff nexus
Shadow Rend melee is basically a shittier version of Erasing Strike
10000%
ebon belfry
though it does seem like shift with another name.
stiff nexus
I mean, i'm still planning to play it a bit more, but it's extremely clunky
dusty olive
So it's a mechnical problem about Shadow Rend and the ability to cast the other ...
nah im fully mana positive i just didnt have the uh
shadow cascade mana refund thing
stiff nexus
Even if you spam it fast? Damn
zenith bridge
the plan is multishot but it doesnt look as good already
Not happy atm with shadow rend in general or just multishot node?
flint turret
Not happy atm with shadow rend in general or just multishot node?
im not actually playing it yet i have no gear, but on my legacy sharacter it wasnt great
the multishot bow one
mana drain is too heavy
jagged sedge
Can't you fix it somehow
zenith bridge
What about the shadow positioning? Do they actually hit with all arrows?
flint turret
i have a few ideas but the only real hope are shurikens on bow trigger
flint turret
What about the shadow positioning? Do they actually hit with all arrows?
yeah its okay
zenith bridge
But self cast overall prob better?
jagged sedge
I do think that shadow Rend costs a little too much
flint turret
But self cast overall prob better?
dunno, i havent played it
zenith bridge
Any other ideas you came up after testing some skill tree mechanics?
jagged sedge
What are you playing Trik
zenith bridge
I just leveled it until lvl 10 with a t7 corrupted bow phys mod 😅
zenith bridge
What are you playing Trik
Bladestorm shurikens
jagged sedge
Nice
Same
Idk how to properly scale it though
I guess I'm just unlucky with loot
It's throw damage and physical % right
zenith bridge
It's throw damage and physical % right
Yea. + Levels also important
Build needs some uniques to shine
zenith bridge
I have a couple with 1 or 2lp but only 10crit and 1 dex -.-
jagged sedge
Yeah mine is 1 dex too
analog jacinth
So far can you say it is can go far in corruption? Or just leveling
It is not good for leveling, it’s for sure, but for endgame, I think, it might have a good potential🤔 You effectively have the highest speed of shadow dagger applying in the game, but you need to think, how to mana manage
copper shard
i havent really played since the first season, did they nerf falconer? i remember it being fun but not seeing a lot of love for it in build guides
though some things are saying its good for speed farming, i dont know what to believe lol
i just want to find a good "league start' build 😄
wraith nacelle
For the experts out there does the avengers dart count as a direct cast ? Might try to spec it for more mana sustain on multishot rend if I can
jagged sedge
What baseline body armor do I use to ascend Elecoe's Abandon
cobalt mantle
What baseline body armor do I use to ascend Elecoe's Abandon
Any, doesn't matter
cobalt mantle
Just any, if you're CoF maybe go for CoF tagged ones to preserve runes
ebon belfry
is bladedancer the best ascendancy for goint full throwing with sd or could that be falconer??
so hard to decide for a build...every skill seems to work in the end...at least it seems like that in story...
pastel rock
So I went Dancing Strikes with Cascade and I think they changed the Node "Hidden Blade". Cascade cast this way costs mana now and I think that wasn't the case before tho. It is crazy damage and interaction with the Node from cascade "Gloomstalker" but damn it is mana hungry 🙁
oak plume
im doing zdps with this -_-
kind adder
So I went Dancing Strikes with Cascade and I think they changed the Node "Hidden...
No I was testing leveling with dancing strikes before patch, and I took cascade node and it definitely ate my mana
So it didn't get changed, but maybe they changed the description to say that it consumes mana
pastel rock
Hmm it does not state it and I also have the "Windmill Ballet" Node and it does not use the mana from Shuriken
both say it has a chance to also cast either one
But looks like a lot of mana management this season, Shadow Rend is eating mana as well like crazy
kind adder
Yeah not sure why it doesn't state that it uses mana to cast cascade. But it definitely did that before the patch as well. Not sure why it doesn't cost mana for shurikens
stiff nexus
Shadow Rend problem is that the shadows spawning take time
stiff nexus
So if you spam too fast at the start they're not active and not casting Shadow Cascade
unique umbra
im doing zdps with this -_-
What is zdps
oak plume
poop ass dps
pulsar solar
Menn…. I miss the old bladestorm. It was a really good cc.
I hope they bring it in a another form back
oak plume
yeah proccing shadow daggers is pain
pulsar solar
And freeze was really helpful
oak plume
craggy talon
Does those shurikens sux?
drowsy wind
question: i am building crit, whatvare the best ways to scale it up consistently?
wise echo
Kuzon's Fury doenst convert bleed to ignite is it?
analog jacinth
So if you spam too fast at the start they're not active and not casting Shadow C...
Yes. And if you have a really high attack speed, you're burning some shadows uselessly. It takes about a second and a half for a pseudo shadow to transition into a shadow state. If you spawn five more shadows during that time, the first one simply disappears, along with the mana spent. 🤔 Now that I think about it, it really looks bad. That's where my mana was leaking.
If you calculate the required attack speed correctly, you can easily save a bunch of nodes in the smoke bomb and in the shadow rend itself
stiff nexus
I'll say this about Last Epoch, the guides are god awfuls
90% of the builds i'm looking to go for are like "oh yeah you need these 5 uniques just to work"
cool man.
Because atm playing Shadow Rend truly feels like playin an absolutely awful Erasing Strike voidknight
ebon belfry
I'll say this about Last Epoch, the guides are god awfuls
you ndont need a guide. just try out what you like. youll get a working build in the end if u have ever played an arpg.
jeah shadow rend seems not optimal while leveling.
stiff nexus
It's not even leveling, i'm just like 75ish not much doing monos
It just feels awful to play
How's the Bladestorm/Shuriken build?
drowsy wind
How's the Bladestorm/Shuriken build?
right now it works fine. it's a matter of how much i can scale them up
analog jacinth
How much of speed you need to use shadow rend 5 times before the first shadow’s attack?🤔 I’ve forgotten how the speed in this game work😓
stiff nexus
I mean, 90% of the problems i face is that the last like 4 characters i played were Sentinels of some kind
drowsy wind
i'm pretty sure the hit damage x bleed is a node i should take
stiff nexus
And this is just not as chill as them 😂
surreal condor
does peak of the mountain leech mod disable sapping strike health on hit? it feels imposible to stay low life somehow
wary cedar
what can i use to alter the look of my mouse when i m ingame? i always lose track of it
surreal condor
what can i use to alter the look of my mouse when i m ingame? i always lose trac...
yolo mouse
analog jacinth
How many shadows you potentially can have? 5?
gusty fox
with full items 8
wary cedar
yolo mouse
aight, wish i could screenshot my cursor ingame to show you what i gto xd
ebon belfry
so...i devided to go for bladestorm to apply SD, which skills are the best to add here to stack more SD?
and how to treat mana issues?
brazen elk
Is rogue where it's at this season?
weary magnet
and how to treat mana issues?
You want to use sapping strike passive node from the Rogue tree. It recovers mana when you cast 0 mana cost skills such as puncture.
But you can also reduce skills like Shuriken to 0 mana cost either using mods on gear or the node scintillant steel after specializing it.
weary magnet
Is rogue where it's at this season?
It's alright. Nothing crazy like last league with Necro/Warlock/Lich.
Same build, just a bit stronger.
But it's also early, maybe no one has found anything yet
ebon belfry
You want to use sapping strike passive node from the Rogue tree. It recovers man...
ty
weary magnet
ouch
This is the rogue channel? Try #💬┃general instead
carmine kelp
what's next....season 5 25k or 1/10th of all time
depends on what changes
raven wave
they coulda let shadow rend travesal go a little further surely, its pathetic lol
wary cedar
they coulda let shadow rend travesal go a little further surely, its pathetic lo...
lol
finite arch
the reforge changes the ward gain and bow dmg right?
drowsy wind
You want to use sapping strike passive node from the Rogue tree. It recovers man...
adding to this, umbral blade combo apparently counts - first throw spends mana, subsequent ones not and trigger the node
ebon belfry
adding to this, umbral blade combo apparently counts - first throw spends mana, ...
ahaaaaa 🙂
ashen rampart
umbral or bladestorm shurikens is better
drowsy wind
im running bladestorm with shurikens and mama is a non-issue. i could add traps if i get the new relic but i am not really sure how to make it work. until i go lightning shurikens/traps and change bladestorm to cold for chill/freeze
drowsy wind
umbral or bladestorm shurikens is better
i use all three. throw UB into bladestorm for increased dmg
ebon belfry
im running bladestorm with shurikens and mama is a non-issue. i could add traps ...
jeah i just got that new relic...so im thinkn in a similar direction.
drowsy wind
and running 2h sword XD cannot wait to get my hands on merophage
ebon belfry
and running 2h sword XD cannot wait to get my hands on merophage
which ascendancy do nyou paly?
drowsy wind
which ascendancy do nyou paly?
blademaster for full crit nodes, glancing blows etc. just need 5 points in marksman to unlock traps (and haste proc is nice
weary magnet
umbral or bladestorm shurikens is better
I'm currently doing Shuriken Bladestorm. You can use all 3 like coldkil says, but it depends on how comfortable you are with 3 skills instead of 2. It doesn't feel comfortable for me since I'm too busy spamming shuriken.
My other skills tend to be for survival or movement. Smoke, Shift, Decoy
analog jacinth
Am I correct in understanding that this doesn't affect the damage from the shadow dagger, and that I need to look for global bonuses to crit damage?
ashen rampart
i will probably drop the build and play something else.. i just cannt get the body armour or the boots or the twisted tongues.....
without them is almost unplayable..
wary cedar
mindset issue
ashen rampart
i mean only till i get my items
btw, will i still get 1 shotted even with the armour from the beasts?
drowsy wind
btw, will i still get 1 shotted even with the armour from the beasts?
res capped? armor/end? getting life back in some way? crit immune?
wary cedar
we 're rogues, that's what we do lol
ashen rampart
well we will see how it goes, if i do not like it, i can try the ballista
OMGG, got the dagger !!
blissful juniper
I was about to reroll to Lich and then I hit this
raven wave
I was about to reroll to Lich and then I hit this
gime ;_;
zealous plank
man. would be great if they could get blast rain node to actually work with shadows
carmine kelp
I was about to reroll to Lich and then I hit this
daaamn
maybe i should catch up on shotgun marksman, haven't done that since S2
blissful juniper
maybe i should catch up on shotgun marksman, haven't done that since S2
its pretty crazy rn, I mean im only at 300 corruption, but once I got the correct idols + T7 slammed bow I dont even need to melee range enemies at all
everything just dies off screen
once I get everything maxed out Ill have 2500% increased damage with 1000%* of that coming from idols
carmine kelp
only thing is will have to update my loot filter
solemn shore
I wanna make my own Spear (or Sword) Falconer Attack build. Any chance its viable?
..or will i hit a wall?
Scaling would be Armor Shred, Crit multi, Immobilise.
Flurry or Puncture as skill with Aerial assault, Dive Bomb, Smoke bomb, Net?
Not sure if thats enough for a simple attacker or if i need to add another scaling layer like bleed or so. Never played falcon.
I want to have an auto attacker melee build.
carmine kelp
what's a good skill targeted specifically at mass-producing shadows?
ebon belfry
shuriken storm not working with blade shield??
weary magnet
what's a good skill targeted specifically at mass-producing shadows?
Synchronized Strike. But there's really no "mass-producing" shadows. The limit is usually 3 by default for most skills. There's nodes/gears that can raise this limit.
ocean copper
Howdy. Im following the maxroll leveling guide, which says I should get Melee damage leeched as health, but Umbral and bladestorm are throwing, so does that really work?
weary magnet
Howdy. Im following the maxroll leveling guide, which says I should get Melee da...
No it doesn't. But I know the guide you are referring to because a lot of people are following it.
That build uses Shadow Rend. It's for Shadow Rend.
wary cedar
Howdy. Im following the maxroll leveling guide, which says I should get Melee da...
i don't really see the reason for a leveling guide in this game, just build dmg at the start and you re good most of the times
steady cypress
carmine kelp
Synchronized Strike. But there's really no "mass-producing" shadows. The limit i...
in the sense of producing them quickly (and efficiently), ive looked into Shadow Rend for its healing and mana utility as well, but im not sure how i feel about the animaiton and cast time
ocean copper
No it doesn't. But I know the guide you are referring to because a lot of people...
But it drops shadow rend at lvl 9 or 10 I think
weary magnet
But it drops shadow rend at lvl 9 or 10 I think
It does not. It's reserved for bosses
carmine kelp
maybe it'll be better with the Tabi on and at higher levels
weary magnet
in the sense of producing them quickly (and efficiently), ive looked into Shadow...
I tried making shadow rend work. I couldn't figure it out even in endgame. I'm going to let someone else handle it. I'm currently working on pivoting to Lethal Mirage and see if I can get anything out of it
ocean copper
It does not. It's reserved for bosses
Are we looking at the same guide?
No need to get too deep on it. I just wanted to know if melee leech worked on throwing for some reason i didnt get
weary magnet
Are we looking at the same guide?
Scroll all the way up
main beacon
Man I'm so sad multishot shadow rend is weak. It's the coolest skill in the game imo.
I'm really hoping shadow rend gets buffed but idk if EHG will do any mid season balance changes
weary magnet
Are we looking at the same guide?
Big bold red text
ocean copper
lol i haven't updated the page since yesterday. Now I see it 😆
carmine kelp
oh yall looking at shadow rend with umbral blades
im doing something completely different here i guess lol
tulip hollow
damn hit the perfect corruption
wary cedar
yo guys, just to verify. use is not directly cast or? 🙏
drowsy wind
damn hit the perfect corruption
i need that thanks
left glen
yo guys, just to verify. use is not directly cast or? 🙏
only directly use if it says the word 'directly'
wary cedar
gotcha
tulip hollow
i didnt even bother getting a proper exalt roll cause i thought i was gonna replace it with an experimental one eventually 😒
weary magnet
oh yall looking at shadow rend with umbral blades
He's talking about something entirely different. If you are trying to get "shadows" to work, you are better off atm following a Lethal Mirage guide.
Shadow Rend at the moment has 2 major issues.
- It takes too long for it to transition into a shadow
- It consumes too much mana
Putting aside the delayed strike, it's not good enough to combo into other skills since it takes time to create shadows, and it's not good enough as a primary skill since it cost too much mana. That's just what I experienced after experimenting it all day yesterday. I haven't found any uniques that would mitigate this issue. You can also pray someone big brain figures something out.
jaunty glen
so is marksman still mid
wary cedar
can i put an echo here that requires 100 corr and still get it without being on the corr?
low quiver
what would be the bare minimum to start a balista falconer?
carmine kelp
He's talking about something entirely different. If you are trying to get "shado...
i was thinking somewhere along the lines of this, to make use of the new Doppelganger set bonus
combining this with Shift and spamming shurikens with Bo's anarchy + Sapping Strikes should potentially solve mana issues
drowsy wind
nice to start
weary magnet
combining this with Shift and spamming shurikens with Bo's anarchy + Sapping Str...
I've already done that. It doesn't. If you remove Shadow Rend from the equation and sub it for something like Bladestorm, your DPS will double.
Shadow Rend is just not in a good state. If your goal is to "dupe" shuriken using shadows, Bladestorm does that job significantly better. Which goes back to problem number 1 that I mentioned. "It takes too long for it to transition into a shadow"
And if you simply want to use shadow rend as a damaging skill, removing the shadow creation from the equation, again, you run into problem number 2. It cost too much mana to be used as a primary skill.
You'll be alternating between shadow rend and shuriken consistently, at that point it's not even a shadow rend build, just a very slow shuriken build