🔪┃rogue

[thin quartz]

LE mob density isn’t thick enough for explode on death😩

[atomic vapor]

the moment I see on potion use, I lose interest

[flint turret]

yeah my favorite self-cooked build in poe is ignite prolifereation ark with which i was one-tapping the whole blight map or timeless realm

[rugged pollen]

maxroll planner

[thin quartz]

This is big. Very big

[atomic vapor]

I don't care if it's the most broken thing in existence, I'm not building around potions

[bold brook]

real

[novel rune]

they can be strong but yeah, i dont like pot drinking being part of my "rotation"

[thin quartz]

Pair it with nihilis. Evade for frenzy. Dont need to care about using potion

[cosmic briar]

My favorite build is CWS

and (now dead) hexblast

XD

i think its says anything about me

[atomic vapor]

rather utilize it with something that has better uptime and no evade in the rotation tbh

[cosmic briar]

like new helmet 'you have frenzy' maybe? 😄

[novel rune]

just get the uberroth relic kapp

[thin quartz]

Then hopefully the build has other sources of frenzy

[cosmic briar]

oh u cant, only 1 primordial...

[atomic vapor]

yeah I was thinking that this will be very very build specific

this blows though

horrid for pushing

[cosmic briar]

u just need something like falconer

[thin quartz]

Okay back to work. Hopefully more to come.

[rugged pollen]

attack speed has diminishing return in nature already

[cosmic briar]

boss will deal no damage if he never hit u

[rugged pollen]

and you'd have to jump through all those hoops

to get those

def meh

[atomic vapor]

that class no longer exists sadly

[flint turret]

i wouldnt ever use it even if it wasnt primordial and had 0 lp lvl

[atomic vapor]

the potential final version

[atomic vapor]

effect of frenzy isn't bad on a strength stacker whatever that may be if ever

but it's bad for primal

[rugged pollen]

20% sounds about right

[atomic vapor]

they knocked down the flat a lot too

[novel rune]

just play HS MM and offscreen enemies while sitting in your smoke 24/7 for push

xd

[atomic vapor]

shade at 2k corruption says hello

move or rip

[novel rune]

i mean ofc you move at bosses

i mean map clear

just playing around your silvers and range, classic

[atomic vapor]

oh

no silver shroud fix still btw right?

lol

I didn't read anything about it

[flint turret]

i doubt you would want to go to 2k as hs

[silent relic]

Fair and just nerf

[novel rune]

1k is where you got all the corruption bonus you need right?

[atomic vapor]

the concept of pushing as hs is a little ambiguous to begin with

[novel rune]

like going beyond is just optional fun

[novel rune]

depends on the style of HS i guess

[flint turret]

rarity scales indefinetly

[atomic vapor]

maybe when MM receives enough passive support to not require aeon's gear to live

[novel rune]

havent played in a long while so idk if its viable but icicle HS just freezing shit is strong

[flint turret]

exp falls of a cliff tho yeah

[atomic vapor]

yeah it's only quantity that caps

[rugged pollen]

bro this is truly a lich patch

i've seen so many lich-related shit

[atomic vapor]

did anyone see the flay tree? I don't have the energy right now

does it have reasonable more modifiers

[rugged pollen]

it's ass

as expected

[atomic vapor]

bro...

so rip the traitor offhand cold conversion mourningfrost dex stacker dream?

[novel rune]

its acolyte season and lich still in shambles xd

[rugged pollen]

i think the letdown from Flay will be like 3 times worse than with HS lol

[flint turret]

what about sent btw? was it nerfed a lot?

[atomic vapor]

yeah

es got .3% maxroll on splitter

[bold brook]

any potential here?

[rugged pollen]

but i think low life sacrifice lich will be very strong now

[atomic vapor]

jav gives more on hit and not on all

[rugged pollen]

like super strong

[novel rune]

also flay is like scaling from 2 attributes right

[atomic vapor]

void well 4s cooldown

what else

[novel rune]

world splitter nerffed

[silent relic]

Looks like lich bad flicker for me to start

[atomic vapor]

.

[flint turret]

looks interesting

[novel rune]

the void well nerf alone is really bad

you need so much mana for it to not feel clunky

[atomic vapor]

and most important of all

all mana minor idols got culled

so rip reasonable mana pool

black blade chance to apply timerot halved

on top of jav being useless for it

so no gigantic more modifiers

they could've just nerfed the more dmg

but nope let's give it the falc treatment

[novel rune]

not the biggest fan of QoL being nerffed

(unless something was too easy like judgement)

[atomic vapor]

but I care very little about the nerfs in all honesty

what I care the most is absolutely no cof qol

and it was even discussed on stream

[flint turret]

does letools already have new items?

[silent relic]

It’s just maxroll planner rn

[flint turret]

okay ty

[atomic vapor]

looks like a nop

[flint turret]

bd passives buff is nice

especially avoidance and dot leech

[atomic vapor]

I found the bear weapon

[flint turret]

falcon weapon kekw

[atomic vapor]

the strength stacker falconer 💪

[flint turret]

no joke, this can boost the aa and dive clear a lot

[atomic vapor]

lpl 63

I like this

[inland yacht]

this goes hard for solo cat or raptor. both have issues with clear

[atomic vapor]

at a first glance to me this looked like the go to EQ bear thing

[flint turret]

hahahahaha

[inland yacht]

probably would yeah. i played a lot of solo raptor and it overkills basically everything it touches, but has tiny melee AoE

[flint turret]

they actually nerfed it for bd and mm too

[atomic vapor]

yeah that's what we were saying earlier

it's so stupid because you can't shroud stack anyway

what's the point of nerfing umbrals

[novel rune]

they nerffed how you stack and they nerffed how much you can stack

xd

[flint turret]

okay ive read the changes

who said falconer is dead

[atomic vapor]

you better not come up with some nasty tech that I missed

I'll be sad

[flint turret]

i dont really see how its dead

[atomic vapor]

you have to wait for the bird to come down for shadow falcons to spawn, in the duration of which you can't press AA

they fixed exactly what we were discussing of shadow falcons copying interrupted dive bombs

they have to complete the animation now

[flint turret]

thats fine but it doesnt mean its dead

same for umbrals

its still 16 umbrals

with less damage and cd

for 0 mana

[novel rune]

im sure its still playable but its not as exciting to play for the 10th time when its a "normal" build now

[atomic vapor]

I don't see a world where pressing umbrals every 4 seconds with like, 30 stacks average is competitive. It's 1,5 or so second for falcon to come down, then the AA hang that freezes you in place, then another 1,something seconds for the next divebomb

the damage came from machinegunning AA

which now can't happen

[flint turret]

it will remain super strong rather than normal i believe

[atomic vapor]

idk

also I think it's extremely clunky and counter intuitive to, say, be playing uber and always keeping an eye of when the bird comes completely down manually to press AA after

with that visual clutter and all

or for maps for that matter

I don't know

[rugged pollen]

UB on falconer does like 1% of the damage now

compared to before

it might be the normal standard for sure

[atomic vapor]

it's not that dramatic, you just don't shroud stack, and you don't machinegun for sure

[rugged pollen]

but compared to the atrocity we've been living with

it's dead

[atomic vapor]

I was thinking reimplementing traps somehow but with the mana nerf too it's not sustainable

[bold brook]

hold up, Gladiator's Oath with the super crit amulet and dancing strike changes

[flint turret]

alright i guess im playing falconer now

[atomic vapor]

LOL

[flint turret]

with bleed or ignite umbrals

[atomic vapor]

dot might be strong because you don't need to recast them often

bladestorms persist

don't need razors either if 3 are gonna be up

[flint turret]

with razors ofc

[atomic vapor]

still blade explosions then?

[flint turret]

yeah

[cosmic briar]

u cant stack shrouds

[flint turret]

its still 16 umbrals for 0 mana

when bd gets 5 shadows for 80

[atomic vapor]

yeah dot might work because you don't need dive bomb at all

[cosmic briar]

bleed version u mean?

[atomic vapor]

we have a new shiny pair of gloves

[cosmic briar]

we also have AA CDR nerf

[atomic vapor]

it's still 16 umbrals

also

you can still use dive bomb to reduce cd and nothing else

[flint turret]

even SD falconer can break faces using primordial pen affix for sure

[atomic vapor]

no I like the dot approach more, you completely bypass the shroud stacking

you might be onto something

[novel rune]

wasnt one of the uber melters a bleed falconer

[cosmic briar]

doesnt umbrals can hit only 1 time per blade? i mean. each blade hit once

[novel rune]

with some 2h weapon

[cosmic briar]

u cannot stack many sources of bleed

[flint turret]

they also explode

[atomic vapor]

they forgot to nerf one thing

blade explosions bypass that

[cosmic briar]

mhm

[novel rune]

you can only have X amount of umbral blades out at the same time (i forgot how many) and as you spawn over the max, the extras instantly explode

[rugged pollen]

nope

[novel rune]

and thus hit

[rugged pollen]

spinning UB != umbral blades

[cosmic briar]

16

[flint turret]

dam i was set on playing bd but now im actully interested in falconer because everyone saying its deasd

[atomic vapor]

bladestorms only hit 1 per target but blade explosions don't, since one explodes after another

[atomic vapor]

you're broadening the term of what's dead to be fair lmao

I bet falconer tech will emerge

[cosmic briar]

ok lets take how many stacks we can get

clear must be ok anyway...

question is mostly about single-target

[atomic vapor]

clear isn't the best on bleed falconer but these gloves look strong

[cosmic briar]

not best, but not awfull

[flint turret]

i played falconer sd using yellow gear at 1000 corr and i dont see almost any changes to that tbh

[atomic vapor]

also keep in mind, to instapop bleed you needed dive bomb

now you do not

[devout python]

Sooo dancing strike cooldown reduction : what does it means? Is it basically more attack speed? Like, do you "dancing strike" faster?

[atomic vapor]

didn't you play sd pre sd nerf

[novel rune]

from where did the new prolif come from

a primo unique?

[flint turret]

what nerf

[atomic vapor]

I heard that before I played sd had way more more dmg

[flint turret]

dunno, it was buffed overall since 0.9

[novel rune]

SD was nerffed when falconer came out but because falconer, it was overall buffed lol

[rugged pollen]

yes

[atomic vapor]

I remember that the 50% more passive was compensation for something else

[flint turret]

50% more damage to rares and bosses does more damage than damage effectivness nerf from 450% to 360%

[cosmic briar]

bleed version i found is related to Blood Rost

so no new gloves

[atomic vapor]

if that was the only nerf, then ppl made it sound way worse than it is

[flint turret]

so overall its buffed

they also nerfed bladestorm application to 40% but explosive umnrals dont care

[atomic vapor]

they don't care about anything seemingly

I'm shocked they didn't get touched

[novel rune]

SD is either good or unplayable

no inbetween xd

[flint turret]

i dont know any instance when it was unplayable

[novel rune]

i think SD wasnt really touched cause it wasnt the giga uber killer

people did that with bleed builds or shroud stack

scaling umbral dmg itself

[flint turret]

it doesnt scale that well into high corr

but primordial pen can be interesting

[novel rune]

and i mean the 5 second uber kills or faster

[atomic vapor]

I really think the play is a unique and not a t8

some pretty good ones so far

some bad ones too but

that's expected

[flint turret]

t7 is more than double of t5, to t8 might be double of t7

and 300% from one piece is prtetty big

[atomic vapor]

yeah pen with sd does go very high

[cosmic briar]

they already said its rolls 50-100% increased from t7, no?

[atomic vapor]

I'm willing to bet pen will be one of the stats that get the 50% though

[flint turret]

yeah depending on affix

and we dont know which roll what range

[atomic vapor]

actually probably class affixes in general

might get a global 50%

[cosmic briar]

if we got something around 1 minute per kill with reasonable gear it will be enough

not needed shit wich deals 120985710295701billions dmg and instakill uber

[atomic vapor]

I'm trying to understand the wording on the frailty changes

on uber

does it mean just healing or all sources of health recovery

would it apply to leech or life on hit

[flint turret]

i dont think 1 min kill builds can be described as "reasonable" tho

[cosmic briar]

if its not allrounder

it is ok

[atomic vapor]

in all fairness we still have no word from them on what they consider an ideal kill time

they got asked and said we don't wanna tell

expected

[thin quartz]

I just realize… no ring shown.. right? Or did I missed it

[atomic vapor]

also mike said there's internal disagreement on it

[atomic vapor]

I only saw the set ring

[cosmic briar]

if they wanna long fights they need to stop do so hellish visual spam and DPS checking on last phase

if they dont wanna long fights they need to stop cap everything xD

[flint turret]

which one

[novel rune]

dw guys, it will powercreep over time like PoE xd

and you will have end of season builds one tapping ubers

[atomic vapor]

uber aberroth's frailty reduces healing alongside damage dealt now

[thin quartz]

Yeah I mean Primordial ring. I doubt set is gonna be useful in s3

[cosmic briar]

we will not

[atomic vapor]

the set ring is a primordial ring ;P

but I know what you mean

[flint turret]

it was alredy doing that, and ward gain or retention too, and leech

[novel rune]

i dont mean this season specificly but powercreep over the game's life

[thin quartz]

Oh. Can you @ me with it if you know which one. I wanna take a look.

[atomic vapor]

the healing part is in the current notes

is it different somehow

[flint turret]

hmm

[atomic vapor]

I found them

[cosmic briar]

i cant find anything related to frailty out of BD passives

[atomic vapor]

@thin quartz

[atomic vapor]

uber aberroth's frailty

[thin quartz]

Eww again😭

[atomic vapor]

a dmg dealt to mana ring

[cosmic briar]

debuff from laser shit i think wich make your hp bar purple

[flint turret]

+50% healing effectivness redyction now

[atomic vapor]

yeah it was regen and leech

no healing

I see

[flint turret]

life on hit untouched kekw

[cosmic briar]

so no 'huh i stil have flasks' moment. Doesnt matter at all

[atomic vapor]

marksman needs all the help it can get lmao

[cosmic briar]

for several minutes fight yes

but i just dont even enter to it with that kind of boss dps

xD

[flint turret]

oh wow they nerfed ucenui quite a bit

[atomic vapor]

the lpl part hurts the most imo

[cosmic briar]

ye, and make its lp less common

[flint turret]

oh well, cant say i liked it anyway

[atomic vapor]

same with talon did you see

no nerf to traitor lpl

[flint turret]

still reading

[atomic vapor]

😭

I went through the entire post, either they did not include everything or there's absolutely no woven echo rewards changes

[urban mesa]

no love for Ballista 😑

[atomic vapor]

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[thin quartz]

Do you know after the nerf is it common 2LP and super rare 3LP now? Pre nerf was 3 slight rare 4 rare.

I dont really know the LPL difference.

[atomic vapor]

It's still at a very low lpl of 30 and that won't affect 3lp chances too much but it's still one of imo the least expected lpl nerfs

[thin quartz]

Yeah I was shock to see the nerf. Not big but still.

[atomic vapor]

The Water Orbs now have 80 base damage and 400% effectiveness of added damage (from 60 and 300%).

this though

Blood of the Exile grants +5-8 strength, dexterity, and intelligence (from 8-12).

people hate this as well

[cosmic briar]

Huh

lich tree

Symbol of Decay has been replaced with Impact Ward. It grants 4% less damage over time taken per point, and has a 3 point threshold bonus which grants all damage over time taken bypasses ward. Maximum of 5 points.

imagine if that shit will be able to skip shields

in general

[atomic vapor]

it's not strong enough to have any impact on uber

[cosmic briar]

nevermind

taken

i am blind

[bold brook]

was just about to ppoint that out lol

[atomic vapor]

wait I missed that too

[cosmic briar]

shittiest point ever

xD

[bold brook]

i made that same mistake when looking at the lich article

[atomic vapor]

yeah i've been looking too long at these notes

but yeah, imo a crap property

flames of midnight also got gutted

minroll is now maxroll

@flint turret Pearls of the Swine grants +5-9 vitality (from 7-13), +7-11% all resistances (from 7-13%), and 113-166 ward per second for each curse affecting you (from 113-133)

not too big but it might concern you

[craggy talon]

hope SD not dead

[atomic vapor]

no sd changes at all

this patch is a massacre

[cosmic briar]

First time i check

i missed that

[atomic vapor]

we knew about it

was teased

[cosmic briar]

ye, i wasnt

[atomic vapor]

😭

[cosmic briar]

xD

[atomic vapor]

the only section worse than cof changes

[cosmic briar]

and added flying chest to location, dont forget

[atomic vapor]

this is some diablo 2 level of update

[zenith bridge]

looking again through falconer changes, i think its far away from being dead

[cosmic briar]

XD

[cosmic briar]

a bit earlier we talkd about bleed SD version

so maybe it will works

[zenith bridge]

yep exactly, they kinda missed a cap on Gaping Wounds^^

[cosmic briar]

but stacking/DVboost version both dead as corruption pushers/boss killers

[atomic vapor]

yeah I don't think anyone meant "falconer in general"

just that umbrals is unviable if you have to wait for the divebomb animation to complete

one AA per 3 seconds or something dumb

[zenith bridge]

yep, i think someone will test this day1 offline

[atomic vapor]

opinion on the new bleed pop gloves? it removes the need to do it with the skill tree

[cosmic briar]

he talking about that

[atomic vapor]

I know, I just like the idea of bleed

[cosmic briar]

so its 5% more from 10% stun chance, question is how many of it we can get

[atomic vapor]

if it turns out that the best way to do it is with that spear even if nerfed

I'm uninterested

[cosmic briar]

no

cos u will be forced to play non-uniques, also, we dont know HOW it will be nerfed

[atomic vapor]

we already have the nerfed and potentially final version

I posted it earlier

[zenith bridge]

Mechanically i prefer ignite prolif amulet because the prolif is more reliable than the bleed pop (which is based on % on kill, while amu does it every second guaranteed), and also generates wisps for better boss dps

[flint turret]

pretty nice ammy btw

[cosmic briar]

i think they wanna this spear to be lvling unique, so if they do 'but not slammed options', its done

[flint turret]

and not primordial

[atomic vapor]

I see, that makes sense

[bold brook]

oh thats cool

[cosmic briar]

oh, if design that beast

can be VERY impactfull on uber last stage

[atomic vapor]

better rolls than nihilis lol

[cosmic briar]

wich is shittiest

[atomic vapor]

also decent lpl

[cosmic briar]

ye

seems not to be so hard to get at least 2lp on it

[atomic vapor]

1/517 3lp

rookie numbers

this is farmable

[cosmic briar]

if its global drop =/

but anyway its farmable ye

oh and we dont need crit multi now i guess?

if we go to overtime

or we have something like crit multi conversion to overtime damage like in poe

[flint turret]

new cascade boots just dropped

non primordial

holy moly

[silent relic]

This is just good because of as right?

[cosmic briar]

+idols crafting feature

[atomic vapor]

that's a lot of stats for that low lpl

[flint turret]

52% more damage

[silent relic]

Huge, time to keep cascading

[atomic vapor]

shame this is primordial. could've used this, slam t8 flat crit, replace shattered worlds

[flint turret]

yeah but its better than using a body for idols tho

[stable sierra]

@flint turret Clear speed with puncture would be insane, but it does nothing against bosses. And frost trap freeze a lot, even bosses, and multiple times with only one cast (once per trap). Thats real smooth

[atomic vapor]

that is a lot of threshold

[bold brook]

i love when cascade can make great use of an item that is designed for a completely separate build (falcon fists too)

[flint turret]

well, suit yourself ofc ) fighting bosses is like 5% of the time or less compared to the rest tho

[stable sierra]

@flint turret and it does not stack with cold

[flint turret]

with what cold

[stable sierra]

puncture

[flint turret]

with what cold it doesnt stack

[stable sierra]

Pucture is physical

[flint turret]

yes, and?

[stable sierra]

I do cold damage

[flint turret]

half of your puncture is cold tho

if not more

[ashen thorn]

hey guys still at work so cant really read notes, did they nerf ballista falc ? if they did how bad is it?

[flint turret]

probablty more

[stable sierra]

Since flat damage with the boot?

[flint turret]

and from the bow

[atomic vapor]

AA is a little slower so the ballista buff doesn't come as regularly, but the ballistas themselves remain untouched

Clear shouldn't change much

[ashen thorn]

good to know 🙂 thank you very much 🙂

[atomic vapor]

tunk has everything updated

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/uniques?r=new

[flint turret]

i wonder whats the stats of blood explosion on gloves gonna be

i mean if we pair it with crit

[atomic vapor]

A little disappointed that it's a on kill effect tbh

[flint turret]

oh wow that meele boots are common\

[atomic vapor]

in case I'm not the only one who missed this

[cosmic briar]

@atomic vapor another downside of bleed gloves is u will not have any over ailments

[atomic vapor]

t8 champ affixes are woven echo only

[stable sierra]

@flint turret Ok puncture procs on hs make it a lot faster

[flint turret]

who would have thought

[cosmic briar]

Feels like it will be ignite amulet really

[atomic vapor]

falconer has a lot of bleed support, I wanted it to be a build defining primo

but I hate on kill effects

[stable sierra]

I thougth so also, but i was focusing on boss fight, but its not what takes the most time you are right. Ty

[cosmic briar]

Also it's seems not really useful for bossfights, and I think we will have good clear even w/o explosions from them

We still have not that high mob density

[atomic vapor]

btw I'm not a fan of this at all

[flint turret]

wait am i reading this right

[atomic vapor]

as if champ affixes weren't rare enough

[flint turret]

wtf is this

1k ward ward per stack?

[cosmic briar]

No

Not per stack

But it's heavy EHP tool anyway

[atomic vapor]

I don't see how this isn't per stack

where does it say otherwise

[cosmic briar]

Also I can't understand they are limited or no

If no... Well, u know

[flint turret]

limited to 1 per second it seems

[atomic vapor]

no buff duration stated so

[flint turret]

but its still can be 1.5k ward or something

and you can actually use it on a dot falconer

[cosmic briar]

More interesting it's unlimited to stack

Waaaaait

Wait a second

Do we have some minions here like... Idk if someone played Poe, Writhing Jar?))

[flint turret]

we have a falcon

[cosmic briar]

Nvm

Hit, not kill

[atomic vapor]

it's 40% more and 20% cdr on the damage side the implicits are useless and the +skills are of debatable value in a complete build

[cosmic briar]

Seems like another broken shit, no?

[atomic vapor]

is it worth the primordial slot

(attack speed useless for falc)

[flint turret]

its a shitton of ward too tho

[cosmic briar]

If no stack limit it's broken

[atomic vapor]

yeah true..

[atomic vapor]

10 stacks, it says so

wait no it doesn't what

huh

[weary widget]

It probably says the duration in the alt text

[atomic vapor]

yeah

[weary widget]

Cus noway it just gives infinite damage

[violet maple]

Seems like stack limit will be based on stack duration. If it's the default four seconds it's probably trash, unless it has a refresh all on stack gain or something, in which case ya it's naninf damage and there's no damned way.

[atomic vapor]

sadge moment of umbrals not being a minion hit

[violet maple]

If it's like a 10 second stack duration though, seems pretty solid, maybe not primordial solid though. 40% more, 30% speed, 20% cdr is a lot of goodstuffs for any build.

[flint turret]

uts fine, falcon can do lots of hits with dive\aa\feather knives\featherfall

[weary widget]

I'm more interested in combining it with foot of the mountain, cus you can get some nutty endurance threshold

[flint turret]

and wall of nothing

and anchor

[weary widget]

Lots of synergy

[flint turret]

and ravs

and blessing

[atomic vapor]

and seed

and slam health everywhere

[flint turret]

it can go up to 2k np

even wiithout boots

[atomic vapor]

and then whenever someone says rogue is squishy

paste planner

[weary widget]

I have... idea

[flint turret]

bit of ward incoming

[atomic vapor]

wasnt there a sentinel build in season 1 that was in permanent max endurance threshold

covering the entire health

paladin prob

[weary widget]

ye, lots

My pali does too

[atomic vapor]

kekgaming

[flint turret]

does he have minions tho

[atomic vapor]

lmaoo

[flint turret]

waaaait

we can do it WITH BEES

[fickle forum]

hmm i see Dancing strikes/ synchro strike buff

[flint turret]

(i know balista too but bees sound more fun)

[weary widget]

Bee pali with 80k ward incoming

[atomic vapor]

1 second cap will make bees overkill

F

[flint turret]

dam this ofhand looks really strong for ballista

no uheretin bow tho

[fickle forum]

a lot of Acolyte rework as well. a looot to reead...

[atomic vapor]

primalists get a +4 max companions unqiue idol

but no +4minions one

discrimination

ballista deserves this

[brittle blaze]

Anyone play flask build?

[flint turret]

dam, hard to choose what to play this season, lots of interesting stuff

last season was a hs no brainer

now ignite hs looks sexy af too but im not sure i want to play 2 seasons in a row on it

[atomic vapor]

I spoke too soon

this is for that weird zoo thing people wanna play

didn't read the second line

[fickle forum]

i didnt catch this

[flint turret]

do we know how does this work?

how much does it inctease

we can actually do a setup with all ifferent ones that have decent stats

[cosmic briar]

We don't know amount

[cosmic briar]

Also realised that this thing is getting effectiveness with long fights

And since I wanna short...

[flint turret]

it looked interesting just because of ward tbh

not that often you see 2k ward a pop

[cosmic briar]

Insane thing for corruption pushing ya

we have some way to put Ignite tag on our dive bomb?

fire*

[flint turret]

dont think so

[cosmic briar]

if no, so ignite amulet will not work

[flint turret]

ignite can be gotten from talon knives

thats pretty much it

[cosmic briar]

nah, the problem isnt ignite itself

wisps repeat fire tag skills

[flint turret]

yeah i know

[cosmic briar]

so if no, its also useless for bossfights

but stil can be for clearing

[flint turret]

and i doubt it will repeat umbrals from aa too

but who knows

[cosmic briar]

no, we dont cast them directly

[flint turret]

yeah i know

[hybrid forge]

I don't have a build and seems like an underpowered skill, but if i did i will probably go with the fire conversion node because it gives you access to +100% more hit damage, +48 throwing damage, and +200% critical strike multiplier

Also i would get the elecoe's abandoned unique for +125%-185% more damage to acid flask by sacrificing a potion and +1-2 levels to throwing skills

With the jungle Queen's chaps of holding unique to get +16 potion slots

[cosmic briar]

so they will not repeate them(

[flint turret]

oh i didnt realize planner already has it

dam thats a lot

[brittle blaze]

Yeah I’m using fire conversion

[flint turret]

700%+ damage for cascade

[cosmic briar]

300 pen?

oO

[flint turret]

sexy

[hybrid forge]

With the new 50% reduced anticipation time to synchronized strike my favorite rogue build is coming back so well

Already felt great 4 years ago now it will feel butter smooth

[flint turret]

yeah cascade is gonna be strong af

passive tree buffs as well

[cosmic briar]

@flint turret ye, it will not repeat umbrals

[flint turret]

and LL version gets exang on steroids too

[cosmic briar]

how it is for single target?

[flint turret]

great

[cosmic briar]

someone have some vid playstyle?

[flint turret]

it was one of the builds under 5min uber abby

[cosmic briar]

hoho

sounds like real option

[flint turret]

without cracked gear

[hybrid forge]

Behold:

[cosmic briar]

hm

so its attack. It can hit multiple times one enemy?

[hybrid forge]

4 years old gif from my first character playing last epoch

[flint turret]

Every shadow hits once

[hybrid forge]

It can shotgun so all repeats can hit the same target

[cosmic briar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYO_Ni4lwos Found this vid

but this guy gear is... well, kinda strange

huh wait a second

[tranquil urchin]

rough no buffs to acid flask and no mention of fixing bugs with flurry lol

[flint turret]

Misha played it a lot this season you can look it up, it's good stuff

[cosmic briar]

what it we also will try to use shadow dance

[flint turret]

https://youtu.be/mjc_KjdsD8M?si=9Ufwg6CeO723vUhX

Flick I think too

It's a pretty popular bd build overall

But can be played very different. Low life or not, dual swords or sword+dagger, dancing strike trigger or sync trigger, melee or throwing, etc

Can even be played with 2h

[rugged pollen]

it bugs me alot seeing ppl playing ll

with only 20% health lost converted

[flint turret]

Ward on shadow tho

[crimson latch]

i want to see all the new uniques, where i can find them? :'c

[flint turret]

Shadow on kill

It's fine

[cosmic briar]

for what the hell reason he used falcon fists????

[flint turret]

As

[cosmic briar]

he havent falconry lvl out ot those gloves

[rugged pollen]

as

melee flat

bruh

[cosmic briar]

ok thanks

[rugged pollen]

easy lpl

[flint turret]

As is one of the biggest damage multies for cascade

[crimson latch]

i wish that hydra bow could be usable

[flint turret]

Bruh

Hoa will be crazy with it

[crimson latch]

oh nice

tier S? :v

[flint turret]

It's already tier s

[cosmic briar]

ok i dont know

[flint turret]

Sss probably

[cosmic briar]

if that damage misha shows on dummy will be at least x1.5

it will erase uberroth

[crimson latch]

what about my beloved HS

:'c

[flint turret]

Wdym lol

[cosmic briar]

i mean its perfect, but not enough to skip phases. And if u dont skip it, u need to dodje skillspam. And if u need that, here are we have another kind of problem with fact of skill using moving you around place

so its really easy to die in fight

as example, just moved to fire hole, or smth like that. And he show version of ZHP

but he also placed link to uberroth kills from another player, had less damage but more survivability

so it seems like better option (for sure, if cant skip phases)

[flint turret]

You are not supposed to skip phases bro

[cosmic briar]

so zhp for build wich moves you is bad option, ye

[flint turret]

I killed it on build that takes 40+s to drop dummy from 100% to 70%

[flint turret]

3-4k ward is not zhp

[cosmic briar]

HS doesnt move you)
I mean only one thing. Its ok that we will not skip phases, but since we will not skip them - we cannot be zhp AND be moved while cast skills

[cosmic briar]

he said by himself its zhp version

[rugged pollen]

eh i dont think so

[rugged pollen]

in this vid the dude took hits alot with 3-4k ward and didnt die

and he didnt play DS

DS is lot tankier

like a lot

but i agree that if you cant phase skip, building for mor survivability doesnt hurt

[cosmic briar]

and its a bit different setup. 3sec damage immunity, to be clear

[flint turret]

Mishas planner is definitely much further on the damage side than I would build. It's a build that allows lots of tuning to your taste

[cosmic briar]

thats true

[flint turret]

Still, 3-4k ward is a respectable amount

[cosmic briar]

hm

[cosmic briar]

most of time u lowlifed as i see, so it isnt 3-4k, no?

anyway, this is solid

very solid

[rugged pollen]

since the ward formula change, stable ward over 4k has a very steep diminishing return

steering into the "more ward" route doesnt look as appealing as it used to be ngl

[cosmic briar]

we will also have a bit less stats from idols.. but more from new affix

[flint turret]

You can use exang and last steps to get much more ward per second. Also cascade has a shadow on kill nodes to in monos you can create tons of shadows with ward per shadow affixes

Also you can play it as life version as well

[cosmic briar]

build Misha linked is just utilising unique armor with 3sec damage immunity after being hit

[flint turret]

Or hybrid

[cosmic briar]

cos anything outside it does not provide real ehp (dodge is nearly useless for abby as well as armour)

[prisma marlin]

How are the rogue nerfs? Will we still be able to kill uber in under 2min?

[cosmic briar]

not as falconer

but i am sure we will

not as OLD falconer*

[prisma marlin]

Infinite stacking seems insanely OP

[cosmic briar]

forget about it

no more stacking

[prisma marlin]

25 % cap on infinity is still a lot

[flint turret]

Im pretty sure you overestimate the falconer nerf amount considering it's current power level

[cosmic briar]

if we talking about umbral blades falconer, i am not overestimate it

u cannot just most broken part: infinite scaling from shrouds stacking

so u lost erm... around billions of damage?)

i dont wanna say falconer is dead as class, cos it isnt

i am pretty sure we will find something

[flint turret]

I'm pretty sure umbral will still be very strong

[cosmic briar]

but no more most broken parts like infinite shrouds or gigachad divebomb percentage

[flint turret]

Not infinite strong, but strong

[rugged pollen]

how? alot of his abilities are dodgable hit no?

[cosmic briar]

depends on what u calculate as strong

[prisma marlin]

My falconer had 398 uber kills season 2 with 1.5min clear time using umbral blades version from maxroll.

[flint turret]

Strong being Uber capable

[cosmic briar]

what 'how'? armour from lightless arbour or how that dungeon named

[prisma marlin]

Interesting to see what uber feels like using the same build after nerfs

[rugged pollen]

i mean this

sry wrong replied

[prisma marlin]

Or maybe the game is being designed for t8s

[flint turret]

Also ballista isn't touched at all

[cosmic briar]

well,,, for me most deads was from dots/laser/dot shit landing

[flint turret]

Dot shit can be outsustained

You die mostly to hits

[cosmic briar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tNPRMfkeFc this one?

[rugged pollen]

well maybe because of the dodge/armor that leaves you with only DOT to be concerned with

[cosmic briar]

cant be 100% sure really)

[flint turret]

No this is something weird

I meant minion ballista

[cosmic briar]

u know that is that

[rugged pollen]

also for Misha video remember he's playing DS

[zenith bridge]

hoa has cd, so will not work with hydra bow

[rugged pollen]

ALOT of his survivability

doesnt show on sheet

[flint turret]

It won't work with a bow?

Dam

Rip

[zenith bridge]

''excludes channeled attacks and attack with cooldown''

[flint turret]

My bad then

[cosmic briar]

only showcase i found with ballistas

seems like they just will be instakilled by ubby

[flint turret]

How do you think it will work with manastacking da?

[rugged pollen]

what's tho hardest hitting 0cd non-channeling ability you MM players can come up with?

pro det arrow right?

mana stacking?

[flint turret]

Yeah

It'd damage depend on mana consume tho

[zenith bridge]

i hope the repeated arrows will snapshot the original arrow before mana consume

this could be crazy

[rugged pollen]

also one more thing

do you need to use -> repeat > use > repeat

or just 1 use

then can repeat forever?

[flint turret]

If it will not snapshot it doesn't seem useful yeah

[cosmic briar]

Do we have someone who get uberroth with minion ballistas here?

wanna hear some expirience with that

[zenith bridge]

also something we prob need to test first

[cosmic briar]

oh well nvm in theory i can try to build that... if all uniques on mm

[flint turret]

Also might be interesting to snapshot hs with dark quiver 3 shadows if it works

[rugged pollen]

also the infused charge node for DA

that mana doesnt counted as cost right

since consumed?

[cobalt mantle]

Right

[tranquil urchin]

Not personal just the rage i read from various people saying he just kills ballisters way to easy so no dmg sustain

i did a lot of digging as I was wanting to play one at one point but the comments put me off since on normal abby it was slower than my other rogueys

noticed the attack throwing speed etc on prim affix is up to 63 from 36 yet the -cost is only up to -7 from 5, rudeeeeee

[flint turret]

Oh right ve have that affix too

Can open up some 0 manacost traps build

With mountain boots

[tranquil urchin]

you can only have 1 prim, atm with -5 on each ring, mountain boots and even using julras it drops mine down to like 8 or something and you can't slam it on julras

so it's still going to cost you double figures

its weird since all other stats across the whole board went up by a shit ton, should have been least 9-10 ima go cry over brekky lol

[flint turret]

You can just not take extra traps thrown

But yeah 7 seems too low it could have been 8 at least

[zenith bridge]

damn i expected the dusk shroud on melee hit primordial affix to go higher than 100%. T7 is 90%

[flint turret]

Yeah it surprised me too

[zenith bridge]

just checking what are the best t8 affixes for rogue

[novel rune]

they really dont want any kind of shroud stacking xd

[flint turret]

Shadow daggers 300%

Damage with shadows 720%

[pine hatch]

So Falconer dead yet

[zenith bridge]

dont think its dead yet, bleed version could still be very strong

[flint turret]

90% ignite pen, to bad cant use with amulet

240% bleed per sword

[pine hatch]

Not a big fan of any dot builds😆

[flint turret]

This is a bleed and ignite season bro

[zenith bridge]

i feel you 🙂 heartseeker made ailments alot better for marksman at least

[flint turret]

Ignite hs will rock for sure

[zenith bridge]

and yep i prob also start ignite with wildfire amulet

[pine hatch]

I was thinking to use wildfire to gain ward from ignite

Looks like they put a limit on those rings as well

[flint turret]

Have you guys seen catalyst for ward gain?

[zenith bridge]

also saw it yep, i tested a version in 1.2. Got around 6-7k ward in combat with ashes ring

[pine hatch]

Yeah

Damn

[zenith bridge]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/go6330ql
Gear setup looks something like this, passives and skills i will test around

drelkor you pretty much need to sustain mana with burning dagger procs, and maehlin i only took because crimson shroud stacks from HS tree do not get converted to ignite without gloves.

[flint turret]

Yay I'm not the only one who thought about drelkors ignite

[zenith bridge]

its the best bow if you wanna go full ignite yep

burning daggers do alot for ignite stack ramp up

if you dont bring HS to 0 mana you have no chance to sustain

[flint turret]

0 manacost is big

[zenith bridge]

kelthan was one of the biggest dps increases

ignite duration is so rare

[flint turret]

Well, most I've seen half-assed 1/4 or 2/4 burning daggers

Without drelk

[zenith bridge]

@pine hatch about your acid flask marksman, any new unique/primo exalted you could add? Thats prob still one of the strongest rogue builds

[thin quartz]

is there any new unique reveals

[zenith bridge]

you can find all in maxroll planner

[north tree]

Is it possible to get 2 tier 8 exalts as long its the same item

[flint turret]

Don't think so

Primordial takes its own slot

[thin quartz]

T8 is a new sealed affix, so no

[hybrid forge]

how much movement speed do you think we can get from this dagger? with the agility passive too? we may reach +200% movement speed with also +200% increased damage

[flint turret]

Movement is whatever on it tbh. 4 skills and 40 pen is what matters

And it's still not THAT great

[hybrid forge]

movement speed is fun though

[flint turret]

Unlikely you gonna get more than 220 dex, so it's not relevant really

[novel rune]

if you want to focus on ms, you can already

with stuff like shift and smokeweavers

LP ms rings

[pine hatch]

Probably just the wildfire I have to test it out first

[hybrid forge]

Yeah but generally your movement speed get capped at 100-120%

So with this item you can finally push to 150% unfortunately i don't think it will make us reach 200%

[novel rune]

im pretty sure some builds can already go at those speeds

with enough LP at least

[hybrid forge]

I have advent of the erased with t7 movement speed + 2 silver rings + haste + all the movement speed possible to get from rogue tree and this gives me around 100% movement speed

Unless there's something else i missed i don't think it's possible

[flint turret]

Shift alone gives 50% so I have no idea why you have only 100%

[toxic swift]

lmao primordial exalts are cooked with some of these uniques

[flint turret]

Some of the primo exalted affixes are bonkers tho

[toxic swift]

I've only seen that dagger and the deadly crit ammy, but tbh gonna be hard to beat those

[hybrid forge]

Very temporary 1.5 second i'm hoping for more constant speed

I think if replace my silver ring with arboral circuit unique and my idols the enchanted affix for movement speed i can get it to 130% average maybe 145% if i get lucky with the rolls

[flint turret]

300 pen with shadow daggers on body or 720% inc shadow damage

[toxic swift]

720%? jfc

so maxroll planner is updated then?

[flint turret]

Yeah

[toxic swift]

the dodge rating when hit one tops at at over 1k dodge rating lol

70% inc health lol

these are kinda silly

LM did get another mirage, and max shadows got another shadow

[deft horizon]

whats going to be the "safe" build to lvl and progress monos ?

umberal blades still?

[novel rune]

my ES VK alone was running passively at over 100% ms, im sure rogue can go much faster

[zenith bridge]

heartseeker marksman unchanged, shadow cascade bladedancer, any shadow dagger variant (BD or Falconer). They easily get you through campaign/monos until you reach good gear

multishot, HoA, chakram also all still strong builds for leveling and early endgame

[flint turret]

t8 attack speed on 1h is 93%, crazy

[novel rune]

i wonder if there are some cool items to use this part of the bleed prolif gloves with, besides just extra ignite/whatever on bow/quiver etc

[flint turret]

maybe ill try to play something like this. have no idea how viable cinder strike will be, im used to it being a meme

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/r161t0gl

im not a fasn of traps attach but i dont know what else to use

cinder doesnt really synergise with anything

[zenith bridge]

Looks interesting! You get a lot of dodge and fire res from cs casting alone. Curious how high you can push ignite stacks

You can swap ca blessing to all res. Boots solve your crit alrdy

[flint turret]

oh right my bad

yeah dodge is gonna be bonkers

perfection+oil coating

im thinking about dusk on melee hit for body as well

dunno whats better

[zenith bridge]

Oh yes do it! I was super happy with that affix on my crit flurry bd

[flint turret]

120% dodge tho

also dunno if 10% crit will be enough for reen but i can get some crit per sword if anything

[zenith bridge]

Its alot for sure with the dodge stacking oil coating. But i got 100% gb very fast after couple attacks. It felt good in combat

[flint turret]

or crit vuln

[flint turret]

im also getting gb from traps so i would expecte to have capped gb even without it since im using 2 swords anyway

[zenith bridge]

I would swap out the critical eye passive and invest into disembowel. Those 5 bleed stacks will feel good for additional dps, since you attack so fast

[flint turret]

or if traps would perform badly ill swap to smoke i guess

[zenith bridge]

Ok that makes sense yea. I think this is something you can always adjust and see while testing

[flint turret]

yeah its barely a draft i have no idea how it will perform actually

since we dont even know how proliferation works

im more than sure that ignite hs is much better but i dont want to commit into second season playing hs

[zenith bridge]

Maybe similar to leveling sceptre?

[flint turret]

actually

maybe worth to use scepter 42% more damage

[zenith bridge]

I think its a cool concept of yours. And if it sucks, just swap the build:)

[flint turret]

it will cost me around 350 ignite chance and 40 gb tho

and it has slow attack speed too dam

[zenith bridge]

Yea stick with dual reen. That crazy amount of attack speed alone gives you so much more ignite stacks, probably worth more than 42% more dmg

[flint turret]

yeah and lots of oil too

[zenith bridge]

Also dont forget the hit component from CS. Of course you focus on ignite ticks, but reen can give you additional hit dmg that you prob realize in longer boss fights

[flint turret]

thata blood dance change to dot leech comes in handy

meh i dont think hit damage is gonna be relevant

[crimson latch]

TRIKSTER

ur my hero for rogue class

[zenith bridge]

Yea with marksman im always happy with life on hit 🙂

[flint turret]

hs gaines so much on hit its crazy

outsustaining 40 frailty stacks on uber abby like np

[zenith bridge]

Insane yea. Also the value of disembowel passive on HS. With the recurve mechanic

Thats shit ton of ignite stacks

[flint turret]

for sure, burning daggers too

100% baseline ignite chance

[crimson latch]

you think HS could hit top tier this season?

[flint turret]

depends on what you consider top

and what you consider hs

flask with hs support is gonna be one of the strongest for rogue for sure

hoa too

hs itself is fine too. not op, not weak, just good skill overall with awesome mechanics

[deft horizon]

What’s the ops, I’m a filthy meta slave lol

[crimson latch]

u think that hydra bow is for HoA :V?

[north tree]

I was thinking hydra bow is for mana stack marksman especially if its free casts

but im not sure how much we have to worry about proper order with it

[gentle kernel]

Does bow work like melee where the flat elemental damage applies regardless of attack damage type, I was thinking of using the new Bow for Heartseeker because 141 flat seems pretty solid

[crimson latch]

i will play HS no matter what, i love that skill xd

[north tree]

yes

the problem with the new bow is the range of it is extreme 3-33 for each elemental type is kinda rid

[gentle kernel]

Oooft, that's the range? I just saw the pic of it with 33 for each

[north tree]

yeah I mean hopefully its easy to farm but with woven system not sure if we can see it drop since its a vendor item

trying to find ways to do more evades

I wish there was better/more reliable ways to generate potions because thats the best way to infinite evade

[eager mason]

stupid question but thats 100% right?

[fair quail]

damn i'll take 1 increased effect

[lunar socket]

We can play falconer finally because the main skills are nerfed! YEAHHHHH

[cobalt mantle]

Correct

[violet forge]

has dancing strikes been fixed on wasd and controller so you wouldn't dance your self through the bosses and die to mechanic? (last played season 1)

mm, looks like nope, it's still tied to movement skill category (for control option) which it really shouldn't be in

unusable if you don't play click to move

[graceful notch]

Bad luck with bow

[zenith bridge]

I think they updated the new Hydra bow. 50% mana consume for the repeated arrows 🙁

[rugged pollen]

lol

[atomic vapor]

It lasted a whole second 😭

[zenith bridge]

yeah i think this kills the mana stack DA or Blast Rain idea. Also the bow is hard to get with LP. So i still see Dragonsong/RoW being way better. Maybe a speedfarm bow with heartseeker procs.

[fleet prairie]

has anyone given any thoughts to wildfire embers + Ruby fang melee cinderstrike ?

[rugged pollen]

melee

cinderstrike

💀

[graceful notch]

Real men 👍

[cosmic briar]

[void cargo]

its huge

[wide yacht]

man why is it poison, ugh

[graceful notch]

last try, but something wrong with roll -.-

[pine hatch]

beat Falconer already

[onyx talon]

Would the new Truesight amulet work well with Shadow Daggers? SD's already have a guaranteed crit chance, so would you just need 40% base crit chance for the maximum benefit on the amulet?

[boreal walrus]

wp

[flint turret]

Dam we really needed a new decent bow

[flint turret]

I'm going melee cinder, so far maybe with dual reen

[flint turret]

Most likely for sd you would want that t8 300% pen on body instead

[flint turret]

does anyone know if damage increased by shadows affects dot that shadows inflict? probably yes?

[glass stag]

lightning chakram should be much better now with the sync strike buff?

[hybrid forge]

What do you guys think will give better damage for shadow cascade

720% increased damage to skills used by shadows or 93% attack speed?

[flint turret]

there is no place for exalted weapon really

while 93% is sick its hard to beat either reen or tongue

im also thinking about that dodge body with idol buffs for cascade

you can make a setup with all non repetetive idols and affixes for cascade ate pretty good

if it really doubles all idols its pretty sick

[bold brook]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

i think there are better primordial choices for shadow daggers though

[flint turret]

yeah im not convinced that 40% for 300% multi is worth over 300% pen

[eager mason]

I was thinking about it but its kinda hard to drop the flat melee damage idols

[flint turret]

Not really

Lots of damage increase and crit multi I think complensates for that

[eager mason]

its also pen

[flint turret]

Since you already getting plenty of flat from double t7 flat

Pen got nerfed

[eager mason]

yeah that part is kinda sad

but I would still prefer to go for 8 of these and primordial exalted chest

[flint turret]

You can get t7 pen on ammy tho

Dunno

Idols also give lots of health and res

[eager mason]

I really like that idol chest tho

I think a lot of people overlooked it

its pretty good for rogue

[flint turret]

Yeah it has a really high ceiling potentially

Also flat crit is awesome

[eager mason]

I think what you do with it is this

you get 4 of these

which is 40% glancing with the armor

[flint turret]

Yeah I thought about it too, if you are capped on crit it's really cool

Dodge % is not easy to come by too

Was it confirmed that body doubles idol effect?

I've only seen speculations so far

[north tree]

What else is it suppose to do?

[eager mason]

this is the line on tunk, unless you mean like does it 2x the enchant

[flint turret]

i see, all good then

behold my cinder cascade ignite kekw
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/so7180qr

[eager mason]

holy

[flint turret]

spam cinder>spam sync>spam cinder

[graceful notch]

16 Intelligence or 120% minion damage, which one gives better damage right now with Ballista?

[flint turret]

depends

[north tree]

Probably int if decent amount of minion damage already

[flint turret]

oh lastepochtool is updated to 1.3

[north tree]

Yep

[eager mason]

I hate pressing extra buttons so it would be just sync for me

but I guess you are not gonna get much from smoke bomb with this

[flint turret]

im dedicated to a cinder build i cant drop it out

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/cm7160qh

only cinder

[eager mason]

can you not put 2 more points in acid flask pen node

for double dip

[flint turret]

yeah i misklicked looks like

[north tree]

I feel like im missing something why Cinder with shadow cascade?

with wildfire amu

like I think decoy would be sick with wildfire amu

[eager mason]

oil coating

bunch of pen and increased

[north tree]

no I get the cinder in the fire build but shadow cascade was confusing me

[eager mason]

it has a lot of more multis

[flint turret]

i dont know what else to put there because nothing really sinergises with cinder. i can regain lots of mana with cinder but i need to spend it somehow too

[eager mason]

you dont really have a better skill on bd

[flint turret]

and yeah cascade takes tons of multies

[eager mason]

other than acid flask explosive

[flint turret]

yeah i dont want to spam traps

[north tree]

figure it was a ignite/fire build saw the 2nd build going flask/Explosive

[bold brook]

any obvious mistakes i'm making here? unsure if mana sustain will be good enough but i'll fix that if it comes up https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BglOVjxo

[sharp raven]

Bladedancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Rogue (28) / Bladedancer (71) / Falconer (14)

General:

▸ Health: 4,478, Regen: 24/s
▸ Mana: 201.51, Regen: 10.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 28%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 27 Str / 9 Dex / 14 Int / 13 Att / 15 Vit
▸ Resistances: 77% / 77% / 97% / 84% / 16% / 31% / 36%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 56%, Threshold: 1,648
▸ Dodge Chance: 20% (687)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 63% (4,789)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 14%

Used skills:

Dancing Strikes / Shadow Cascade / Synchronized Strike / Shift / Umbral Blades

[flint turret]

traps are already one of the styrongest builds im not really interested in that

[vital ivy]

does traps thrown by the wildfire wisp counts toward the player trap limit?

thinking about cooking a flask fire convert with traps with the new unique

def not the best, but the ignite prolif might help with clear and the wisps with the single target

[flint turret]

why no reen?

[north tree]

think wants the +2 skills

[bold brook]

i was debating between reen and scissor, probably going to swap between them depending on what drops better

[flint turret]

he can get +4 on body instead

[flint turret]

i dont really see any increced damage on this

apart from idols and shadow buffs

you would probably want damage per shadow for cascade

on body\helm

or idols

[bold brook]

true ya, forgot that

[flint turret]

also i dont like all res blessing when you dont use 3 of res at all

[bold brook]

phys damage blessing there instead you think?

[flint turret]

maybe swap it to phys damage instead

dunno

seems like a waste to have res there

[north tree]

Crit avoidance + BD new threshhold is cap

[flint turret]

you basically just need elemental and phys

[north tree]

I know you have reduce crit damage helm

[bold brook]

ya i agree, was thinking about crit avoid too, but i like the huge armor bonus from tundra

[flint turret]

yeah id rather get avoidance and extra 30% in new passive

[bold brook]

and its easy to cap crit protect with tundra + 1 affix

[flint turret]

and get t7 damage per shadow on helm

[bold brook]

good idea

[flint turret]

or you can just ignore the avoidance and leave it as is with tundra

60% from tundra kinda takes care of crits

not entirely but eh

also i dont like crit on ring

[north tree]

yeah your going to have mana issues big time

[bold brook]

i dont like crit on ring either, but needed a little more to crit cap - is there a better spot?

[vital ivy]

does this actually work with traps?

[vital ivy]

the decoy detonate confused me xD

[flint turret]

also flat dodge bless can become crit

and that flat dodge on body is confusing too

why its not armor then

[bold brook]

true

[flint turret]

also id recommend getting shurikens

with such high armor

[bold brook]

ya my previous cascade build uses shurikens, but I wanted to try dancing strikes next season

[flint turret]

and consider getting null to get extra 20% phys reduction

[bold brook]

ya i plan on null eventually

[flint turret]

you can swap umbrals for that