🧙┃mage

[eternal mango]

what I want to know is does CDR work on reactive ward

Because if you can get the cooldown to 6 seconds, and then get 50% CDR, that's 4 seconds

[karmic folio]

someone said it doesnt work with passives, just active skills

[eternal mango]

Does it work on cooldowns on things inside of active skills?

like if x active skill triggers thing on y cooldown, does it work there?

[eternal mango]

Sadness

[karmic folio]

Nah, just the skill itself

[weary hamlet]

you look through idol effects and see if they do anythign for your build, the baseline now is filling your idols with weavers stat sticks like ward/health/mana etc

[carmine abyss]

so usually weaver idols are better than regular ones?

[karmic folio]

no dont take weaver idols, take class Idols and enchant them at the weaver altar

[weary hamlet]

I'd put it like this, if your build wants something specific from idols, you go for that. I.e.volcanic orb builds really want the volcanic orb idols. Or ignite builds want ignite duration idols. But if your build doesn't rely heavily on those, you are just maximizing stats

[carmine abyss]

thats tricky part.. I still didnt get how to use them properly

[karmic folio]

you just take the class idols that you like, enchant them, whatever you get is fine, finish the weavers will and then corrupt them

[carmine abyss]

if I play ss build, what idols are good?

[carmine abyss]

but doesn't weaver will/enchant give random stats?

[karmic folio]

yeah but its on top of everything, you dont loose anything

[carmine abyss]

okay and also I remember we can re-enchant the idol too

[karmic folio]

you can but everything gets rerolled into new stuff

[carmine abyss]

okay..but why should I corrupt it after

[karmic folio]

corruption gives another stat on top of all, unless it fails xD

or the stats get put to maximum/minimum

[carmine abyss]

I saw people corrupt legendary gears too... isnt that risky? it might change to something else. I noticed this afternoon I used the rune of corruption on my set item then it became a rare garbage sword

[karmic folio]

that only happens on set items, they cant get an extra stat, your either max everything out or make it into a reforged item with the setshard

on uniques/legendaries you get extra stats

[carmine abyss]

oh I see. but its also possible that it fails then I get nothing?

[karmic folio]

yeah, so if its a really good item you could get a backup first

[carmine abyss]

got it! thanks.. sounds very rng and fun I guess xD

[karmic folio]

yeah^^

[carmine abyss]

btw how do I reforge a set item?

I saw it on a planner.. it says reforged but mine doesnt have that

[karmic folio]

you can either corrupt it and then extract the shards, or farm a specific weaver node where you can directly put setitems into it to get the shards and then you add them to items like any other shard, usually you wanna seal them right away

[eternal mango]

Okay, does reactive ward trigger any time you take damage, while under 70% health, or does it trigger when you go from 71% health to 69% health, and won't retrigger if you're below?

[carmine abyss]

okay! I have to look into it. haven't done it before and when I corrupted my jormun sword this afternoon, it became something else then I was like hmm

[karmic folio]

always keep the best version of each set item, and any other you can corrupt, and if you get lucky you get the maximum stats on it, but usually it will transform

[carmine abyss]

👍 thanks! good to know'

[spring crag]

is there any buff for static orb?

Since all the top corruption ladder builds for sorc are static orb

[weary hamlet]

I don't think it was buffed directly

[tranquil beacon]

hi frends is there any good lightning leveling builds?

[spring crag]

interesting, since all the top builds in ladder uses static orb for some reason

instead of lightning blast

[weary hamlet]

Im not following the ladder but the idol stuff is a significant buff to mana stacking strategies

might be the reason why

[whole jackal]

do nodes like conduit and storm battery on surge actually increase the damage by the lightning blasts from the electropulse node?

[surreal steeple]

just saw a lightning fire auta build and thought "maybe i could incorporate disintegrate into it since it's a dot" - nope, the fire aura gain from disintegrate is locked behind fire conversion

they really don't want disitegrate to be viable huh

[full bluff]

heh someone turned meteor into a spark charge version and killed uber

[waxen token]

I'll kiss the guy on mouth if someone sends me a flame reave loot filter

[weary hamlet]

lol why am I not surprised

[full bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqZ1WNBx_L0 it is pretty good

Meteor for taking down bosses is great, the damage is outstanding. Trying to put together something that is playable for most thing too. But maybe sorcerer is not meant for that 🙂

[weary hamlet]

damn this is so stupid I hate it

ehg be like, just turn every skill into spark charges

frost claw was a mistake

[full bluff]

remember spark charges on 40 mana cost skills...

[weary hamlet]

exactly

at least they had the decency to remove that

[full bluff]

I played volcanic orb shrapnel spark charges

[weary hamlet]

you know what the worst part was? I'm pretty sure that you could bring frost claw above 40 mana and play that

with that node

[full bluff]

wasn't that the top played build of the season?

frost claw spark charges

or was that elemental nova version...

or both maybe

My beta frost claw runemaster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2wpU4sreWY, before I discovered spark charges...

then we got spark charge madness and 100k ward

[weary hamlet]

yea it was both

[full bluff]

and meteor was at best used as a mana generator

[weary hamlet]

no reason not to spec into charges in nova when you literally get it for free

[full bluff]

some silly stuff in meteor, like 15% mana cost for meteors in a line... why

[weary hamlet]

yeah that one is a head scratcher, I guess that's cause uh sacred 1 had meteors in a line and it's a tribute or something

why would you get penalized for a version of a skill that's strictly worse?

oh right the game is full of that crap, flamethrower fireball anyone?

channeled LB?

focal blast?

[full bluff]

hmm testing the line now, has its function for a playstyle

I see people run around close to monsters, so guess could be good for those

or controller?

but then should drop the mana cost

a skill point in itself should be enough cost, thats 15% less damage

then you get 15% more mana cost too on top of that

mana = damage

[full bluff]

I can't decide on an extra meteor or more damage and spread

[keen hamlet]

can flame reave go pretty far?

sorta enjoy the playstyle

[rotund ocean]

I can do 1000c+ with it, still cant kill uber though, but thats probably a skill diff

[keen hamlet]

yea idk if ill ever do uber

unles i find a bugged build haha

do u have a guide i can follow and a loot filter?

[rotund ocean]

I dont use guides

[keen hamlet]

gangsta

[rotund ocean]

but this is what the rank 1 spellblade looks like right now https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/JoeGaming/character/BladeJoeS4

[keen hamlet]

truesight is a must have hey

[rotund ocean]

For Jasper yeah, but I've seen people use Velocyn's Jaw with Eye of Reen

[weary hamlet]

more that you don't have any other good option for the primal slot either way if you are on jaspers

[sly vortex]

help plz

[keen hamlet]

can fire aura spellblade go far at all?

[kindred oxide]

I don't have a guide or loot filter

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BEdxZKy4

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Spellblade (85) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 2,279, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 303.51, Regen: 8.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 205%, Regen: 155/s
▸ Attributes: 20 Str / 59 Dex / 95 Int / 11 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 115% / 77% / 76% / 76% / 94% / 89% / 85%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 456
▸ Dodge Chance: 13% (417)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 42% (2,376)
▸ Block Chance: 14%, Mitigation: 28% (588)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 103%

Used skills:

Mana Strike / Flame Reave / Flame Ward / Enchant Weapon / Surge

[kindred oxide]

This is what Im using currently.

[weary hamlet]

go home nemesis, you are drunk

[rotund ocean]

Time to reroll crit smite

Oh wait directly cast nvm lol

Well I guess it can still work with javelin

[unborn hamlet]

this build ur following i do too

for boss fights, mass mob clearing, foot of the mountain -> dont move at all -> reduces the spell cost of light blast to 0

use glacier to dodge heavy hits, use ward to tank hits u cant dodge

as for the runes, its because Immutable Order in Rune Invocation node

its set up that way to guarantee the ward shield that grants massive defensive buffs while its active, thats all

i have decent gear already, but i got 380 mana and i have no mana issues if i make use of the foot of the mountain when needed

generally running across a monolith tho i dont really have mana issues, excess spam is your doom

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/owLlWd88

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (26) / Spellblade (5) / Runemaster (62)

General:

▸ Health: 1,748, Regen: 32.76/s
▸ Mana: 379.32, Regen: 13.76/s
▸ Ward Retention: 448%, Regen: 35/s
▸ Attributes: 44 Str / 40 Dex / 205 Int / 32 Att / 40 Vit
▸ Resistances: 99% / 73% / 124% / 54% / 86% / 146% / 105%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 44%, Threshold: 350
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (160)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 59% (4,188)

Used skills:

Lightning Blast / Glacier / Frost Wall / Flame Ward / Runic Invocation

[unborn hamlet]

my current stats if u wanna have a rough idea, its not the best items by any mean but im running it up on corruption rn and see where i get stuck,

at 750 i got 0 issues with dmg or surviving

[waxen nexus]

Hello guys any advices what improve first on flame reave spellblade
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A21bVKxL

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 91

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (24) / Spellblade (72) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 1,961, Regen: 66.9/s
▸ Mana: 318.96, Regen: 10.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 183%, Regen: 119/s
▸ Attributes: 22 Str / 39 Dex / 77 Int / 22 Att / 46 Vit
▸ Resistances: 117% / 91% / 77% / 70% / 44% / 97% / 80%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 392
▸ Dodge Chance: 11% (320)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 30% (1,350)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 7%

Used skills:

Flame Ward / Lightning Blast / Flame Reave / Enchant Weapon / Surge

[sly vortex]

1.how much you mana regen?
2.in pic is corrput 1 skill after you corrpt right +-+wow
3.do you LP3 same you link right now ? how to farm lp3 so hard on trade system

[keen hamlet]

Oh i saw ur yt vid haha

I think

[unborn hamlet]

I corrupted them till I got +1 that's all

They are not hard to farm and you can reroll 1LP stats with 0LP corrupted ones in gauntlet of strife

Rolled till at least 100+DMG and good mana roll

As for the 3LP enigma, same, it's a common drop, I'm CoF I just use all prophecy on unique catalyst and then it's RNG take the wheel

I had 4 of em, 3 bricked on corruption

Still don't have 3LP laddle for example

Unlucky, just farm more

Also the +X (I think it's +12 to all stats) corruption is generally better, just didn't get that yet

12INT for this build is a big DMG boost

I'm missing a lot of int from a lot of item cos this is still just a fast slap together half baked stuff

[sly vortex]

oh i should focus on int right i play on merchant haha so hard to dig gold to buysomething
and now how far you go ?Corrupt am at500 die in 2hit can't go far

[unborn hamlet]

750+ , 0 issues so far

Only time I die is unlucky off screen one shot by some boss or champion mob

[sly vortex]

wow yep i think you dps you much more than me

[unborn hamlet]

Enigma scales hard with flat int

Int stacking most important

The building basically doesn't work without Enigma

[sly vortex]

another quetion ? Spark Charge you dps 500k same lighting Blast how to get it

[unborn hamlet]

I'm not sure what's the question here

The spark charge scales thanks to INT and enigma

Also, blessings

Don't forget about blessings

And good lightning DMG idols

Mine are trash as you can see

This building nowhere near as strong as it can get

[sly vortex]

you use same me ? or use other can you teach me how to fix it

[unborn hamlet]

This is what you need

For survivability

Spam off cool down

Always use when you can

[sly vortex]

ok thx for tell me

[unborn hamlet]

Yea this is shield, makes you take less DMG and generates ward while active so even more defensive

[sly vortex]

i can't go far from here but next time i will play cof is work than mechant ? if you have time

[unborn hamlet]

It's better long run imo cos MG dies when people stop playing

You can always swap factions tho

Just keep in mind you can't use faction tagged items in the other faction

To give you an idea, these items took me 4 days to get on CoF

I just swapped to the build yesterday from frostclaw

Farm items I need, and when I had them all I swapped

But it was 4 days of farming for this

[full bluff]

I am about to give on up corrupting that orians belt, 20 more tries, then I am done!

[sly vortex]

another Q how you do that LightingBlast to lv 34 now am 31 and if i have body+1 amulet if i stat 360 = +3 but now i +2 = 33 another1 how to find

[sly vortex]

do you use Bless drop belt +

[full bluff]

Blessing for belt? No, thats not my issue, it is bad luck thats the problem 🙂

soon 100 attempts

[sly vortex]

i think 4day now i spen have only 1Lp on my ch? i think next time i will try COF haha
it faster than i need gold for buy LP3 from someone price2m+++

[full bluff]

Frostwall gets pretty massive. Have to learn to reflex cast that instead of meteor when monsters rush me 🙂

[unborn hamlet]

Total stats , amulet gives +1 based on stats

[shrewd thistle]

https://youtu.be/mHLFxlJwAtU?si=k3wxStnusg2pojfh

Is this better then lightning blast rune master

[unborn hamlet]

but its probably because of the ring

thats +4 from the ring

helmet (vilatra), weaver necklace, gloves (lich), and ring (ferebor)

[rotund ocean]

Thats what lightning converted frostwall looks like? I might have to play that build now

[full bluff]

It is pretty good I hope if I learn to use it properly. Single hard targets are easy, it is all the trash that bothers me now. They all get stuck in frostwall. For omens I just put up a wall and let them rush me while I nuke.

[tardy aurora]

when monster rush me, thats what i have Fire Aura for 😄

I almost played frost wall too, but its too slow and boring skill

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/fire-aura-spellblade-guide

this is what im trying to do, doing well so far

but using shatter strike

[spring crag]

hmm

has anyone tried igneous build this season?

I feel that one is extremely hard to play

despite its insane dmg

[blazing nimbus]

does anyone else have the issue that spellblade procs just dont work anymore randomly? frost claw and ice barrage in my example. Is there any fix for it?

[weary hamlet]

haven't run into that one

[blazing nimbus]

happened 3 x so far, always after a few hours

[delicate cape]

how do i get to empowered?
Do i have to do all these then 1 lvl 90 timeline?

[vivid wedge]

5 "points" worth of timelines, reign of dragons and one other are worth 2 points

Should be a note on the quest about it

[full bluff]

it is a sign

[unborn hamlet]

@prisma pike ?

[prisma pike]

🙂

[unborn hamlet]

hope i tagged the right guy 😄

[prisma pike]

I doubt there are 2 Thalandalas and if there are. Use the codes!!! 😉

[left hill]

haven't had that specifically, but I've noticed not all indirect spell casts trigger Blade Conduit, so that's fun 💀

[blazing nimbus]

I just noticed it happens for me on temporal sanctum boss

Explains why I have 0 issues otherwise but I get killed in T2 already

[delicate cape]

can a 5-affix exalted item (1 sealed affix) be used in the Temporal Sanctum on +LP uniques?

[stone rapids]

yes, you just can’t slam the sealed affix

[delicate cape]

Do we know if this would increase the chances of getting exiled-specific uniques?

e.g. Alchemist's Ladle

[weary hamlet]

No, it's just exalts with skill affixes

[harsh abyss]

Its still really good though

[delicate cape]

yeah. a bunch of exalted sounds good

Still learning all these old + new mechanics coming together...
Would it be possible to place a "Corrupted" affix onto a Legendary through the Sanctum

Nvm - it looks like Corrupted mods are "Sealed".

[waxen token]

DoTs are ok

[delicate cape]

rip...HC?

[carmine abyss]

qq I wana make a 1lp legendary which tier of sanctum dungeon should I clear?

[delicate cape]

i think T1 allows LP on iLvl <= 50

[carmine abyss]

its lvl 82 armor

should I clear tier 2 or 3 ?

also can I put portal charm?

[delicate cape]

Tier 1 caps at item level 50, Tier 2 at 65, Tier 3 at 75, and Tier 4 allows any item level

quick google.

hoping it's still current

[carmine abyss]

ah tysm .. can I use portal charm?

[delicate cape]

you should be able to. should port you to boss. I havent done my Sanctum yet but that's what I plan to do

[carmine abyss]

okay tysm

[carmine abyss]

what is scale charm btw? I've read the description but a bit unclear

so its for the lizard thing?

more lizards in the dungeon?

[delicate cape]

not sure. i havent played LE in a while. scale cahrm is a new term to me

[carmine abyss]

okie np tysm

[delicate cape]

the wiki is super, super impressive tho. if you google "scale charm last epoch", both Gemini but also the first link to the LE wiki will tell you evertyhing about it

[umbral perch]

Yes more loot lizards in the dungeon

[delicate cape]

if it's a mechanic or has detail, one of the top links will be Maxroll.gg, and they have a ton of information on all topics, ranging from quick overview, to detailed information

[carmine abyss]

ty

[rotund prawn]

hey guys, have any server for BR players?

[delicate cape]

Can you search multiple things on the timeline at once?

e.g. i can type in "wands", but can I search wands and exiled mages and off-hand catalysts. PoE has this feature, as an example.

[umbral perch]

Hrm. If DoTs are currently overtuned somehow (supposely a forum post about this), does that make Advent of the Erased (weaver boots) unusually good? Up to 35% reduced DoT taken as long as you have Haste, and they grant Haste on kill so uptime during Omens ought to be decent.

[carmine abyss]

so i just got one shot in tier 4 santum... so how should I make my argentus 1lp ?

my dps is enough but seems like i cant dodge her skills?

ok someone helped me

[cosmic dove]

for the record for the 3 black hole players out there
Singularity, Scattered, and Cascade Fracture are still bugged (in an advantageous way)
normally Singularity overrides Scattered and only one BH will be summoned per cast
adding in Cascade Fracture summons Scattered's extra BH both with Singularity's 2x multi
not sure I feel comfortable using it but means you could get 100% multis from Singularity, Binary System, Supermassive, and (effectively) Scattered

[carmine abyss]

so should I corrupt my 1lp argentus now? to get 2nd affix?

or does corruption wipe out my ss lvl stat?

still dont know how corruption rune works

[full bluff]

corruption is a pretty risky thing, but most likely it will be slightly better, chance for a lot better is low, so are you a gambler or play it safe?

[carmine abyss]

i play it safe but I wana know what corruption does

[full bluff]

it adds a random affix/stat, or destroys your item in some way

[carmine abyss]

you mean an item gets destroyed and not able to equip?

[full bluff]

yes can be that, or just removes your legenary affix, turns it into a magic items, or some other funny effect

[carmine abyss]

I thought unique items dont apply that

only set items might change to something else?

[full bluff]

uniques too can change into something else, like a random blue item

[carmine abyss]

how about legendary items?

[full bluff]

never had it turn into an exalt or another unique

[glad marten]

Did you time swap during the boss fight?

[carmine abyss]

I didnt... am I able to do that during the fight?

[glad marten]

You kinda have to

Thats the primary mechanic of the dungeon and her large slam is only avoided this way

[left hill]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/corrupt set to "Unique (Non-Idol)" and Body Armor

[carmine abyss]

so I heard when we use corruption on 2lp legendary its either we get extra 2 affixes on top of the original ones..

[carmine abyss]

okay definitely gonna try that out next time.. I was like wait I got one shot and couldnt do anything about it lol

[spring crag]

hmm

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/tierlists/bossing-tier-list

just interested

glacier sorcerer could really kill uber in 3 min?

[glad marten]

Yeah, its funny because when it came out the slam was basically considered untankable. These days theres been so much power creep lots of people look at it and go "oh I just need better gear"

[spring crag]

or is their ranking not updated?

[full bluff]

With the best gear, maybe

[spring crag]

but it says "endgame gear"

[full bluff]

the ranking is based on them playing that build and actually seeing that it works, so I guess it can be done... in the extreme version

[spring crag]

which is nowhere the best

I highly doubt that glacier sorcerer can kill uber in 3 min

[full bluff]

I can only speak for myself, but doubt I could even get past first phase with glacier 🙂

thats where I usally die, if I can get past it I am much better

[spring crag]

I would say that with the best gear it can, but I highly doubt their endgame gear setting could kill uberroth in 3-6 mins

[carmine abyss]

thats what I thought lol

[glad marten]

You are not the first!

[spring crag]

especially that they did not use the mourningfrost boots for dps

also according to their ranking, javelin paladin seems weak

as the lightning javelin version could kill uber in 2-3 min

[full bluff]

The omen idols in the planners... thats harder to get than almost anything else, maybe trade is the idea behind this

[weary hamlet]

yeah its hilariously bad on COF, barely any omen drops and half of them are utter garbage

and the other half is just garbage

[harsh abyss]

Even with trade its almost impossible. First you have to get an idol of the right shape, then it has to have the right affixes. You can drop HUNDREDS of the same idol before you hit the right affix combo.

Then you ALSO need to get good rolls on those affixes. That means you're looking at potentially thousands and thousands of omen idols before you drop ONE perfect one.

And you get one per omen, maybe.

[full bluff]

I need one omen idol for my build got this one on first day

so lucky, never hoping to get an improvement on that

even if it is not perfect

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, no way you'll find another one that is that good. You probably have the best idol in the world.

[weary hamlet]

damn playing the profane oblation necro is downright sad after mage

imagine if meteor was costed at 10 mana and regenerated 50 when cast

imagine if you could get like 800 ward per sec from transient rest

cause you don't actually need to ever spend your mana

[weary hamlet]

I was just looking at their reliquary nest build for sabertooth full of bis rolled omen idols and went like, nah fam I'm good, I'll just stick with the ancestral pack

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, I kinda figured they'd suck to get, so I didn't make any real planners expecting to get them.

[full bluff]

I see them as a nice bonus item

Now I just go for single T7, and a lucky corruption on every piece

maybe T7 and some T5s if easy LP

Thats within reach with some targeted farmign

Some corruptions change the build a bit, so they are important, like area on weapon and speed on belt. they are the ones I struggle with now

[carmine abyss]

qq can you use other class t7 exaults for slamming?
eg. primalist's t7 helmet for my 1lp barbute hem

[full bluff]

and +skill is nice for some skills

[solemn turtle]

Is "Damage done to mana before health" practically useless for low HP builds? Does it also protect ward?

[weary hamlet]

ward is not health

it does not transfer damage to ward

[left hill]

and don't even always drop from Roaming Omens, so that weaver node barely helps. (roaming also don't drop timeglass and seem to not drop altars either, basically just Rune of Corruption and occasionally the idol)

[harsh abyss]

Technically you COULD use it with a low health build, if you got it to 100%, but the opportunity cost wouldn't be worth it.

[weary hamlet]

typical ehg, like the idea is decent(ish) but the numbers are orders of magnitude out of wack

[daring ridge]

Hello all ! What is the best build for mage u think this season ? IDK a lot about the game, im playing lightning blast but i feel like im capped and i cant do uber aberoth alone (maybe idk the patterns well this is my first season). What could i try that is better that lightning blast with my mage pls? 🙂 im currently doing corruption 800

[supple tendon]

Can set item get a corrupted affixes without becoming reforged items ?

[weary hamlet]

no

but if you craft a reforged item and corrupt it the results are a little less random than just corrupting sets

[harsh abyss]

You're probably just looking at the learning curve for doing the fight. LB is probably one of the best builds still.

[delicate cape]

is the only way to gain Weaver Tree points by completing the Woven Echoes?
Or do you also gain them through milestones of the league?

[weary hamlet]

levels in weaver faction + echoes

[delicate cape]

okthx

IS Ending the Storm boss still Lagon, with that 1-shot beam thing?

[weary hamlet]

yeah

they added some tentacles that try to weasel up your ass so the fight has at least something to do

previous version literally could not do damage to you

since every attack was easily dodgeable

[delicate cape]

sounds hot

[harsh abyss]

Theres still a safe spot down on the stairs I think

[delicate cape]

IIRC it was just dodge the slams, and make sure you keep an evade/teleport for when he does that sweeping ~1 shot beam

[harsh abyss]

Yeah its not too bad. The beam is easily baitable.

[delicate cape]

Exile Mages seem to be the only thing that can kinda kill me at this point. non-empowered monos, lvl 70

Farming them though and just pumped points into Twins. in before RIP

[stray comet]

I’ve found farming the new omen echo gives alot of omen idols

So brutality ain’t worth it for shatterstrike….

The dmg gained isn’t significant enough to lose out on armor

[weary hamlet]

that's a very relative "lot" though

given that the echo is also not free

[stray comet]

It’s not free initially but becomes free after hitting a fragment threshold, opting for picking fragments

[hollow bolt]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1sc8hhh/flame_reave_ubberoth_i_suck_so_i_went_higher_dps/

Flame reave uber kill on Reddit

guys got crazy dps

[vivid wedge]

Vise/Shattered Worlds are uber drops only?

[harsh abyss]

Yes

[vivid wedge]

The gloves basically made this possible in one slot. If you struggle on not super OP build, get those or grasp of the blood mage.

Planner has both which rubs me the wrong way, since it implies he killed with another build to get the drops to kill on flame reave

[carmine abyss]

hey hey! qq, can I use other class's helmet / armors when crafting legendaries?

btw I made my 1st legendary argentus with SS +4 today.. everything went smooth as you suggested

[vivid wedge]

Congrats!!

[vivid wedge]

Nope will make it class locked to the other class

[full bluff]

heh opposite challenge as last season now for farming, now I want to turn amber into bones, not bones into amber

7500 amber for 2k bones..

[kindred oxide]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWX9NlRE

Current Flame Reave gear. I've been trying to upgrade everything corrupt everything slowly.

Frailty on Hit corrupted affix on idols is very good for survivability. If you need help surviving boss fights, Uber etc... that is a great source of damage reduction.

I just got a corrupted affix on my helm that applies 19% damage to health to my mana. it's perfect for spellblade, who plays a health+ward hybrid and can generate mana quickly.

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Spellblade (85) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 2,162, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 339.51, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 249%, Regen: 170/s
▸ Attributes: 21 Str / 68 Dex / 96 Int / 12 Att / 27 Vit
▸ Resistances: 119% / 75% / 76% / 81% / 94% / 95% / 74%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 452
▸ Dodge Chance: 14% (461)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 37% (2,037)
▸ Block Chance: 15%, Mitigation: 29% (628)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Used skills:

Mana Strike / Flame Reave / Flame Ward / Enchant Weapon / Surge

[kindred oxide]

the corrupted affixes carry me vs uber. debuff cleanse on evade and frenzy on evade.

[sly vortex]

why we build so hard on Omen Veil normal i play on courrpt 600 i down grade to 300 but can't kill monster to win 3wave of it how to or my dps is to low

[little pagoda]

triple omens is just super hard for ward users

I just drop mine to 200 on a random one to do it

[little pagoda]

bone are boosted by your gold% , just setup your weaver tree for it and your beast. You can get like 3-4k off 1 rift beast

[carmine abyss]

ah then no reason to keep other class's exalts! thx

[weary hamlet]

playing other classes is the main reason

[full bluff]

heh in Omen veil echo, placing frost wall in good spot, just endless ward sustain from all the monsters coming at you 🙂

[sly vortex]

have anyone help me win 1time need woven point only i want

[ebon sparrow]

win what?

you should prolly ask in lfg, but i got you dw 😭

uh my tag is m3xvs inv me 🙂

[sly vortex]

m3xvs am try are you see it

[ebon sparrow]

mb im stupid

n3xvs

n not m, my bad 😭

[sly vortex]

it can't invite

[ebon sparrow]

^ i typed it wrong the first time >.<

[carmine abyss]

should I get all resist blessing or crit strike avoid blessing?

every resistance is 75 except void and poison atm. but strik avoidance is 0

[sly vortex]

this what i failed can't sell haha

[ebon sparrow]

idk why u cant sell, too low rank mg?

i dont play mg >.<

[vivid wedge]

You can swap for a gold cost fyi

[carmine abyss]

oh really? how do I do that

i thought i have to fight the echo boss over and over again to swap

ok found it in town

lol I literally cleared the echo boss multiple times to swap blessings lmao

[sly vortex]

are you here bros need help again haha

[ebon sparrow]

i answered u ingame too, im busy 😭

[sly vortex]

if you free tell me plz want you to much i fallen open map to hard again

[vivid wedge]

And generally speaking you want something that protects against crits, there's crit avoidance and there's reduced bonus damage from crits

[left hill]

so basically if you spec the Zerrick node and get the 7% where he shows up it also boosts Ancient Bones drops?

[little pagoda]

pretty much, theres a node that gives you 85% gold as well

[left hill]

oh, i thought the 85% was only when he showed up.

[full bluff]

Learned a new bone farming strategy from Cursed today 🙂 think it solved the bottleneck a bit

[left hill]

mind sharing?

[full bluff]

Omen veil spam

[left hill]

ah, then just trading timeglass?

[full bluff]

looking into if it can be done in a party to 10x the gains

looks promising

theory is 300k bones / hour

but still exploring here 🙂

crystal hearts might end up being the limiting resource

[sly vortex]

how can i not died with this -*- am hp1500 and ward6000

am not have block how to do def layer better

how to my build need standstill https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/lightning-blast-runemaster-guide
but boss fuking aoe skill all time and need to run alway

[harsh abyss]

What it doesnt tell you is any other hits than the one that gets the kill. Including DOTs and stuff.

Also that hit you for 12000 damage

Very few builds let you facetank big boss hits.

[little pagoda]

you can kill this boss with lb easy

I mean you cant stand in the big hits though

[karmic folio]

well do you see the attack coming? Do you know when it hits?

[delicate cape]

does something like this increase the drop chance of Mad Alchemist's Ladle?

[cosmic dove]

in frozen's BH build he showed ignite stacks of 1000+
would this give a 12000+ ward on pass through?

[harsh abyss]

It would, but you'd also lose all your dps

They already consune ignite stacks for triple damage with enchant weapon.

[half pollen]

Black hole damage is so busted, you kill the dummy quite fast with practically no gear lol. I wish it wouldnt suck for mapping that hard

[harsh abyss]

Use fireball for mapping and BH for bosses maybe?

I've been considering that but have been feeling weird this season

[cosmic dove]

btw Zerax I tested it and the bug people talked about is still working

Singularity + Scattered + Cascade Fracture is 2 BHs every time with the singularity multi

only need 1 point in fracture

which means you can get the double scattered cast + all three 100% multis

not sure if it ethical but ...

[half pollen]

Add vembrace to that which grants 200 void spell damage and void pen and a cinder chest. Easy 60 second dummy kill

[harsh abyss]

Thats crazy

[cosmic dove]

scattered is also better than the tool tip says

it isnt 10 yards away, it is up to 10 yards away

sometimes (not with wall shenanigans) the two BHs will be a couple yards apart

with that and drifting you often get complete overlap
so it is effectively another 100% multi

[half pollen]

And with enough CD reduction you can get 6 BHs running at the same time

[cosmic dove]

Ive never had the gear for that but yeah

wait are you saying 6 with or without scattered(?

[half pollen]

With scattered, but without respawn luck

My BH has 4 ish seconds cooldown

[cosmic dove]

yeah it's a trade off. the extra point endless maw to get to scattered hurts your CD
but helps with duration

[cosmic dove]

btw I know it is meme/off meta
but Ive been playing BH (pulsar) + meteor on and off all season
meteor is manual cast in between BH casts
it has worked well so far even if it isnt meta

[ebon sparrow]

the move speed affix is corrupt only correct?

[karmic folio]

afaik yeah

[ebon sparrow]

welp.

[karmic folio]

its a good affix

[ebon sparrow]

yeah... esp when ima run 150% move speed

but corrupting an affix augh

[carmine abyss]

is rune of havoc that hard to reroll in prophecies?

been re-rolling like 20 times but no luck

[pulsar belfry]

Is mad alchemist laddle really rare?

[past hedge]

Is anyone using maxrolls lightning blast runemaster guide and/or can tell my why you'd want the set bonus on the amulet / ring / gloves in the end game gear ? What does legendary affix on equipped weavers will weapon do (you dont have a weavers will weapon, its mad alchemist) or why the +2 totem skills on ring or +4 shades on the gloves:

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/lightning-blast-runemaster-guide

I am probably overlooking something, its why i gotta ask

[carmine abyss]

i have killed exiled mage for more than 50 times but no luck as well

[pulsar belfry]

Holy crap bro

How is this game not driving you crazy

Ive done like 15 and im already raging

[carmine abyss]

oh I play shatter strike and if i get it I will play lightning blast if not then I keep playing ss

no issues

😆

[stone rapids]

extra +levels and all attributes, weaver amulet just gives good other stats on top of that

the set bonus for amulet/gloves/ring is irrelevant, it’s just for the legends entwined value (and the weaver amulet gives other nice stuff too)

[delicate cape]

Holy crap is hte weaver's "Folley" enoucnter supposed to be hard? I'm not Necrotic Res capped but not much has challenged me so far at lvl 72, but I'm very lucky to be alive, versus 1 of the Fateweaver's 4-pronged, spinning Necrotic beam...

[past hedge]

ohh i got it, thanks

[delicate cape]

what is this?... so does staying in the mono thing longer, now 2x and 3x my rewards at the end?

[vivid wedge]

Yes that's correct

So you'd get extra unique/set gloves for staying longer in that example

[cosmic dove]

this layout doesnt count for "no larger idols above smaller ones"
same level == above?

[nimble shoal]

A lot of people seem to be having issues with it, seems bugged

[sacred kite]

try swapping the vertical one to the left side and see if it works

[ashen glacier]

anyone here playing nado bear high corr?

[delicate cape]

How do you get set bonuses on rares? screenshot from a guide

[karmic folio]

you need to get the setshards and put them on a exalted item

[delicate cape]

do u know if hte chest within a Tomb of the Erased would be affected by that 3x multiplier too?

maxroll guide for lightning blast recommends this on aspirational. what makes this so good?....

[karmic folio]

the intelligence

[harsh abyss]

Probably want to check with #🐺┃primalist but the main mechanic that made it work (using bear form to restore your mana to full) was changed.

[ashen glacier]

oops wrong chat

lol

[vivid wedge]

Someone already answered but yeah 1) lb is an int stacking build, 2) can't roll int on belts, 3) 20 is just a ton of stats for one affix

So that's also a good defense slot for slamming things, belt can roll a ton of things if you have any holes (% hp, hybrid hp, reduced crit dmg, resistances, etc)

[delicate cape]

oh u cant get int on a belt... i c...

[stray comet]

anyone got any suggestions on how to boost dmg on stat stacking shatterstrike? i tried exulis amulet but the 45% more dmg i get from it is not enough for uberroth

[delicate cape]

Interesting. I didnt get a guaranteed Exiled Mage in the Woven Echo I placed on the timeline

I guess that node doesnt apply to Cemeteries created by Woven Echoes..

[cosmic dove]

nope, still doesnt work. I guess I'll hope for a bug fix

yeah it has to be a bug because this also doesnt work

[umbral perch]

Hrm. Am I being silly by running carcinised altar for the armor? I did that while leveling, just hit empowereds, not sure if or when to switch. Running shatter strike with various sources of DoT, doing okay as long as it isn't possessed gold elementals

Also running Snowblind instead of Boneclamour, the armor and blind seem good for defense

[lunar elbow]

pretty sure this is why?

that smaller idol is below the larger idol

I think only way to make it work is to fill the entire lower space with 1x3s

[left hill]

oof. if that's right that wording needs improvement

[lunar elbow]

yeah, not sure though, I only tinkered with it for a few hours before giving up :D

[cosmic dove]

pretty much this
I found the whole idol altar / idol system to be needlessly punishing. way too much curse, not enough kiss
I guess they expect you to grind and hope and make something work
I just gave up like you did
hopefully they will adjust it in season 5 in a year or so 😏

[carmine abyss]

shatter strikes vs lightning blast. which is better under 500 corruptions? I am currently running shatter strikes and still working on it but got a bunch of gears for lightning blast too. kinda wana try it but I dont wana respec everything before I get an idea.

[harsh abyss]

Previously it was fine, and the addition of the omen idols and idol altars is cool. But getting the actual omen idols that are at all good is just too hard.

[cosmic dove]

that and (as a much more casual player) I find a really nice idol, the weaver additions are good, the corruption is good and ... I can't place it in my altar because of some crazy restriction

I gave up trying and just shoved some idols with +spell damage and boost to suffixes
I know it is far from ideal or maxed or whatever but I'm almost done with the season and it's whatever at this point

[proven haven]

LB is probably going to be better overall. Ranged, fast, good AoE, better survivability, etc.

[tranquil flax]

first time I managed to push an elementalist mage through monoliths
Elemental Nova build is so fun,
just sucks that uniques for it require level 60, 70.
But finally I got the helmet that creates trinova and I feel the power now :D

[finite cobalt]

what are good boots for fireball CoC ? Probably Mourningfrost to scrap some flat dmg I suppose ?

[weary hamlet]

you arent running a lot of dex in that build, do you?

ole good high lp foot is always an option

fiery shoos are an option if you want to only have that one slot invested into crit defense

[finite cobalt]

I'd love to skip crit defense with chance to blind but it's a bit random to get it on the gear

[dawn widget]

@kindred oxide Ive saw your reddit post regarding about the flame reave spell blade.

I saw you swapped out Siphon of Anguish for Ocearon and are using immortal vise for the survivability for leech and melee speed. I was thinking what if you were to use tome of elements to substitute for the relic slot which can be used to for elemental damage leech and stacking more debuffs to more effectively proc ocearon's dmg multiplier. Can this work as a substitute for no ubberoth gear?

Falcon fist for the Gloves too since it gives melee speed and melee fire

[kindred oxide]

Possibly! I recommended Swaddling of the Erased and Reliquary Nest

[unborn hamlet]

I would consider the tome only on 3LP+

As a unique itself the tome is really not that good

[dawn widget]

Yup but swaddling has has issue of being hard to proper gear with cause of weaver and since I wanted to continue using truesight glass for the crit multi

[kindred oxide]

yeah the tome of elements is pretty underwhelming

[dawn widget]

@unborn hamlet what about Herkir's Vessel

[unborn hamlet]

I don't play spellblade so I can't comment on that

Just talking about the tome and what you want from it overall

[dawn widget]

It is but from what I know tome is really easy to get LP to slam in as compared to most

[unborn hamlet]

It's common enough

[kindred oxide]

my flame reave now covers my entire monitor

[unborn hamlet]

But 1 in 200ish it is? For 4LP is still not the easiest thing to drop,

[dawn widget]

for LP3 is 1 in 65

2275 for lp4

[kindred oxide]

I have this with 3x Increased Area for Elemental Area Skills prefix

[dawn widget]

damn wtf

[kindred oxide]

and I got the range node in the tree lol

you guys gotta see this ill make a vid

[dawn widget]

cant wait xD

[kindred oxide]

I think even a mediocre swaddling is good until you find a better one imo

the innate stats on it are pretty ideal for the build

farm lots of cemeteries!

[dawn widget]

I see... ngl it was just cause I had an LP2 falcon fist sitting around that has melee speed and melee fire damage sitting around

Not sure how it compares to a swaddling since its 17% max for damage against high hp enemies then becomes somewhat useless when its mid boss fight since all it has is the casting speed and some good Rolls

[kindred oxide]

https://youtu.be/Pn15n8qi-vM

doing Omen's Veil as Flame Reave

[dawn widget]

jesus crazy range

[kindred oxide]

yeah I juiced the range on it

[dawn widget]

mine looks like a puddle compared to yours smh

[full bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XgMrjYsjWc my omen veil farming build, lazy way to do it

meteor was a bit more anoying to play in veil

[rotund ocean]

My eyes aren't wide enough for this video

[full bluff]

heh, no way to go back once you go wide 🙂

[fervent ledge]

Hey guys why are the top ladder rm now using static instead of ri?

And teleport over rbolt

[full bluff]

They go all in for more damage

Defenses are useless at high corruption, kill or be killed 🙂

Teleport has decoy which helps a bit

and some extra damage

[fervent ledge]

Seems more comfy for lower core too tbh, teleport is good qol I don't like using runic bolt

Or the ri teleport

[full bluff]

Yes, when you just want speed and fluid play, those things matter more than being tanky.

[fervent ledge]

I just would have some mana problems without rbolt gotta sort that out

[full bluff]

There are more dimensions to build a character this season than before, it no longer just about that single target boss killer.

I used to use potions for mana when I was playing lightning blast few seasons ago, for farming monos

[pale cedar]

Quick question, if I have more damage/penetration for lightning shattered strike, will that apply to spark charges? I remeber spark charge works weird because its an ailment converted to a spell. Trying to figure out if diothaens bloody nib converted lightning pen will actually impact spark charges

[weary hamlet]

no cause spark charge is triggered by the ailment and it thus doesnt inherit most modifiers from the triggering skill

[pale cedar]

Got it, i suspected that might be the case 😭 Thanks!

[chrome niche]

Question from a non-mage player, if i take acuity node in arcane ascendance, and luminaire in elemental nova do i get the bonus spell damage bonus from arcane ascendance for all the channeling of nova? i think it count as casting 1 spell so i should?

[weary hamlet]

hmm folks but unironically

this looks usable

cleanse in boot slot + 18% DR against dots

[finite cobalt]

30 runes of ascendance, 0 grasp of the blood mage 🫠

[stray comet]

Ok flame reave is definitely better than shatter strike this season

[vivid wedge]

This is really interesting, I kinda hate RI/rbolt..

[rotund ocean]

Shatter strike is still very much viable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw7N2NansoE

[delicate cape]

holy F! lvl 76. slapped on 100%+ shred armor chance item for my Lightning Blast. It like... i dunno tripled my damage probably, against rares/bosses

Is this accurate on my toolitp for LB? how/why could it be so much?...

and isnt that overkill

nvm i must have had a shrine or something...

[spring crag]

In which aspect?

[delicate cape]

What's more important for a suffix on gloves, as I start entering lvl 90 -> empowered monoliths:

Hybrid Health or Armor (Lightnigng Blast Hardcore build)

It would be very easy for me to slap Hyrbid Health onto this open suffix, but I'm starting to think I need armor. I only have 115 (8%) right now.

Anyone know what almost kills me here? sry i know im asking like 3 questions back to back...
I dont see any debuffs, degens, etc. I dont see that I'm standing or getting blasted by anything. It doesnt seem like 1-shotish. It seems like strong degen or many many small hits.

All res are 70-75%

[glossy quarry]

exterminator 2nd laser

lasers the ground then explodes it

range them

dont be in melee range lmao

[glossy quarry]

Need more EHP= flat ward or damage reduction things

at the end what will save you is going to be big ward

i guess you have sphere of protection right?

from runemaster

[weary hamlet]

100% crit chance shrine

[weary hamlet]

this is probably the worst season to date to be playing hardcore in, the damage in omens is completely ridiculous

died to a 8k poke from a trash with a spear yesterday

non crit lol

[harsh abyss]

Not to mention the poison that does crazy damage and lasts for like 20 seconds

[weary hamlet]

and ignites from the soulfire bastion pyromancers

[waxen token]

any flame reave users here? wanna ask something

which relic should I run before shattered worlds?

[kindred lintel]

is final spark redundant for LB ? should i spec somewhere else ?

[sterile ledge]

Returning player for this season (last played in season 2 so been looking into what i've missed), been slowly making my way through monos, still sub 200 corruption so early enough things are changing quickly. Looking for help because i'm going a bit blind and keep tweaking things and its getting worse and worse when i think it should be going better 😄

Basically, always wanted to play a pure fire meteor caster. Tried in s2 and it felt garbage and just went afk spinny warpath VK, saw all the new stuff and got pretty excited. Got this far on vibes alone but know if i want to push further I need help. Don't want advice along the 'legends entwined + vilatras go lightning pew pew' lines. If anyone feels like helping me target specific upgrades I'd be super grateful. I have a lot of space to upgrade as I am, but just feel a bit blind running at monos and hoping for perfect drops of what I currently have filtered.

Currently trying to get a t7 meteor chest and probably t8 it for the +6 as my main focus for my primordial slot as nothing else seems overly great in the prims. Obviously harbinger is a no go for belt slot as mana just goes cya on single cast. General playstyle is just tp + flame aura on cd + meteor semi conservatively. Havent seen any guides that don't go down the LE route unless i'm missing something, so skill trees are pretty much again, vibes based. Happy to be told i'm missing something magical. I feel fine right now where i'm at but I do eat some mad one shots occasionally. Damage just seems to have plateaud.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/getfluffed/character/Meteor

Please help?

[karmic folio]

I also play fire meteor and I autocast it with Harbinger, you interested in that?

[sterile ledge]

Sure! I'm interested how you manage the mana issues as i always go oom after about 3 casts 😄

[karmic folio]

Haha I can cast over 10 meteors per second and manage fine, still at the start of my build^^

let me make a clip fast

[sterile ledge]

okay!

[zenith wraith]

Guys, playing The dragorath claw + fragment of The enigma lightning build with battlemage endeavor instead can be viable? Not focusing on spark charges and instead Just raw damage and critical

[kindred oxide]

i'm starting to like teleport better than surge for flame reave

teleport is undoubtedly better for mapping. defensively better

surge is so cool tho

[rotund ocean]

the flame reave cast on surge feels so good though

especially when you get the 3rd big cast

[kindred oxide]

the way i see it, the better traversal will get you more damage than what was lost from not having surge anymore

[sacred kite]

Can you post a planner? Feel like I was doing ok with bluefeather band but trying out legends entwined and struggling a bit more with mana so curious what others are doing

[kindred oxide]

this node is really good for a lifestealing ward mage

health/ward hybrid

[karmic folio]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B4XdDrKL I only have gear in it, you can see the skilltrees in the clip

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

None

General:

▸ Health: 1,329, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 1,378.21, Regen: 0/s
▸ Ward Retention: 163%, Regen: 30/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 11 Dex / 55 Int / 11 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 24% / 24% / 24% / 0% / 0% / 11% / 11%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 41%, Threshold: 266
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (44)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 31% (1,525)

Used skills:

None

[karmic folio]

i also tried bluefeather with this build but its so bad, it makes manaregen about 6 times worse

[karmic folio]

https://streamable.com/mafrbb

[sterile ledge]

ohh its based around channeling focus? didnt even think about butchers crown for that

[karmic folio]

yeah its an insane synergy

and it can also use arcane ascendency to make meteor cheaper without any drawbacks

[sterile ledge]

my only thought is, its pretty static in terms of movement? idk im kinda one of those people who wants to run around like a madman 😄

[karmic folio]

its super tanky and clears the whole screen and even stuff beyond the screen and then you just teleport to the next pack

[sacred kite]

Very cool, how is AA making meteor cheaper? Missing what that interaction is

[sacred kite]

Maybe could use mana guide to move while focusing?

[karmic folio]

Tranquility node

no dont use mana guide

[sacred kite]

CoF for flat spell damage?

[karmic folio]

yeah

bec I use firestarter torch for -9 mana cost

[sterile ledge]

yeah like, i can see the benefits of it just dunno if im gonna get bored standing still 😄

(its why i loved warpath vk, just go beyblading around aberroth)

[karmic folio]

you loose lots of tankyness and mana regen with mana guide

[sterile ledge]

Oh yeah i meant as in focus autocast vs direct cast running around

[karmic folio]

if you wanna do meteor and stay moving then you need to play with self casted meteors without the belt

[sterile ledge]

playstyle idk if it fits me

[karmic folio]

and use teleport for free meteors and stuff

[sterile ledge]

yeah thats what im trying to build up, just finding a plateau

not sure if im missing something incredibly simple with my build the way it is other than just better gear (remove the wayyy overcapped res' etc)

[weary hamlet]

yeah nice find, haven't thought about that one either. Although back before 1.3 release people did try to break butcher's crown, largely unsuccessfully. But I think the angle then was avalanche builds which are just better with xylem

or so it seems

[karmic folio]

thanks^^

[kindred oxide]

Yup. OK playing Flame Reave for like 20 minutes with Teleport instead of Surge. Teleport is just way better. I should've done this a long time ago.

For mapping, it's very obviously better. Jump through walls and chasms that you simply can't with Surge. Overall travel speed is way faster

For bosses, having perfect positioning with teleport will net you more way damage in the long run. I'm not even convinced Surge increases damage output because the free Flame Reave cast from it just makes up for its own travel time. Teleport doesn't have a travel time.

Surge requires you to invest a few points into making surge travel farther. Teleport already comes with infinity points in that lmao. And I don't like Surge's fixed travel distance.

Defensively, Teleport gives you way better bonuses to Ward.

[weary hamlet]

lol bro told you teleport is just too smooth and you can use it unspecced in any build that is tight on spec slots

[kindred oxide]

yeah surge might just be a trap.

surge is the ability that made me wanna play spellblade

but teleports in arpgs are just goated. transplant, leaps etc...

[weary hamlet]

Sometimes I look at the chariot in my stash and want to do a surge build but then I remember that its range and AOE is smaller than a mosquito's dic k

[kindred oxide]

dashes are too limited

[weary hamlet]

and the urge passes

[kindred oxide]

yeah i'm not getting off tele again. surge is a trap. this also makes it easier to find a good jasper staff

can ignore surge, and can already kinda ignore elemental weapon.

(for the skill ranks affix)

3 flamereave, 1 surge, 1 enchant weap is totally fine

[karmic folio]

yeah teleport is nice, you dont even loose stacks of foot of the mountain with it

[kindred oxide]

oh serious? i didnt know that

good to know ty

[karmic folio]

yeah since you basically didnt move

[kindred oxide]

😂

[ashen glacier]

flame reave actually s tier maybe?

[kindred oxide]

not sure what would constitute as s tier but i think it is very strong

[sterile ledge]

https://streamable.com/6bzyqh for reference, this is the nonsense as i'm playing it rn. need to get back over 1k mana for the archmage bonus as a priority.

(please don't look at my hotkeys)

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o3ZbkEEE

[karmic folio]

looks fine I guess, since you dont have uniques yet

some people use fireball to recover mana

with that build

[sterile ledge]

that's the thing, idk what uniques to even target (other than omnis basically)

[karmic folio]

unstable core is always good

[sterile ledge]

for chest i was thinking t8ing a +meteor for the +6

(unless you can slam a t8 onto a unique? i skipped s3 so no clue)

[left hill]

I think the only real case for it is if you can pull off absolutely giga attack speed and cooldown recovery to use it as a fire aura generator. and that's a very, very specific build at that point

[tardy aurora]

im using this for my shatter strike fire aura, as off hand

[karmic folio]

yes you can

[sterile ledge]

well theres my new focus 😄

[left hill]

t8s are sealed affixes

[karmic folio]

oh ok

[delicate cape]

I do but tbh I should have it maxed, since im playing HC. was kinda loosely following a guide

[sterile ledge]

ah thought it might be

[delicate cape]

omen are this cycle's mechanic? the expanding purple circle? Yeah my first char was pretty strong and nothing really scratched it and then I did the first Echo Chain, and the 4th (final) omen like instakilled me

I should probably skip Omens then tbh

[karmic folio]

whats the smallest possible mana cost for meteor? Most I can do is 13

[weary hamlet]

yea

the champion omen is the worst at higher corruption

especially when you get the ape champ who is invulnerable most of the time with the damage reduction aura

[sterile ledge]

i tried the champion window once and decided its not for me 😄

[weary hamlet]

I just did it on my new saber bm.. in 100 corr lol

surprisingly it didnt go so bad

[delicate cape]

i find champs somewhat easy. what's so juiced about the echo chain variation

[weary hamlet]

an extra 1000 00 0 00000000% scaling the developers forgot to fix

same issue as most weaver echoes really

[sterile ledge]

they are very juiced

[delicate cape]

that's wack. so dont do any of the echo chains?

[sterile ledge]

multiple juiced champions + usual omen bullshit going on around it

[delicate cape]

what's the best way to get this. look slike a 2% chance from "unique/set amulets" in Age of Winter? Sounds horrible

[weary hamlet]

nah they are fine its just the champion omen echo

which is the end of the bigger omen chain

[weary hamlet]

prophecies and/or rune of ascendance

[strange needle]

Just mapping its drops quite often if you are cof

[delicate cape]

Ascedndcacy is ~2% as well. not horrible tho. 1 in 50. WIll pump some prophecies too

[delicate cape]

yes im cof. how does cof increase its drop rate tho

oh. nice...

[karmic folio]

if you wanna play that, combine it with the primordial ring

[strange needle]

Yep thats how very ez

[delicate cape]

Looks like its only other set item is the ring at ~2% as well. So i guess that's a 4%

[strange needle]

Thats being said remember the set amulet reforged only takes the crit chance affix,if you want plus to skills you need to wear the set amulet

[delicate cape]

that's all mechanics from a time when i didnt play, i guess.

just looked it up. ok good to know

I was looking at Bina's LB guide as a template / inspiration / learnign the mechanics.

By Endgame+ gear, he only wears the amulet but gets the set bonus, but he doesnt have the ring...
And why would he want that set bonus anyway if he's wearing the Mad Alchemist's Ladle (not Weaver's Will item??)

Also, he has a rare ring instead of the set ring, and has (forged?) "+2 to All Totem Skills" on the ring. But I dont think he has any totem skills...

[kindred oxide]

90% of the time when I die in Omen's Veil, it is Poison Bone Spikes from Congealed Slime or something

dealing 6k damage to me and one shotting me

I dont even know what the attack looks like or the enemy that does it

[strange needle]

He is using legends Entwined tech so that primordial counts as a set piece thus he is getting extra skills points stats and res

[left hill]

rift beast echo chain is fine

[vast hull]

Hi there. How would you recommend leveling a mage as an alt with plenty of items ?

[delicate cape]

oh wow.... ok thx

i saw raxx die 2x on those beasts. Ive never done them. are they rippy / overtuned right now?

[karmic folio]

play whatever is most fun for you

[strange needle]

Rampant coast yes but it was a little nerfed

[weary hamlet]

a little especially in rampant coast echo but not nearly as bad as it was

[delicate cape]

ok ill skip that one. but the "tears" that spawn in echoes, and the "Timebeast" echo chains are relatively balanced?

wow that Riftbeast zone was pretty fun.

[weary hamlet]

rngesus is sending me a sign

[karmic folio]

damn

from nemesis?

[weary hamlet]

just make sure you don't stand in blue void zones from crystal heart, that has a high risk of oneshot

[weary hamlet]

idk I was just browsing my stash for turtle and found it

didn't even notice when it dropped

[karmic folio]

if only my build had a use for uncapped elemental resistances

since Iam channeling all the time

and I dont wanna use Urzil

[strange needle]

Extremely easy to do dont be afraid only rampant coast beast scales way too hard

Still need to be done and farmed

[weary hamlet]

watch the hands,

1. Play disintegrate
2. Spec into fire aura
3. Use this to get 75% more fire aura damage
4. Don't use red rings
5. ???
6. Die because you aren't using red rings

[karmic folio]

lol

[delicate cape]

i see that laser now. thx! (didnt know that guy even did anything lol). I wonder if that's how my first char died.

[weary hamlet]

damn I have so much random high(ish) lp shit in my bank for builds I'll likely never play

I need to respec my sorc into embers ignite

gotta see if they fixed it for real thistime

[sterile ledge]

🫣

[weary hamlet]

stock up on lube mate

[sterile ledge]

Kinda wanna try it as this web is sitting at 100corr rn, might have a semblance of a chance

and i did just get a juicy new 26% health chest. 500 health is enough to make this livable right 🙃

[karmic folio]

if you got enough ward you dont need lots of life, also damage dealt to mana before health also helps

[weary hamlet]

tbh ward builds generally suffer here, as ward regen per sec tends to be lower than leech/regen in hp builds

[sterile ledge]

cant have damage to mana in this build 😅

[weary hamlet]

and this shit has constant incoming damage

[sterile ledge]

when i'm going its about 2k ward/2k hp so i'm gonna go assume the position and have my hopes dashed as usual

[delicate cape]

can someone get me up the curve here on waht this item is. IT's the set helm. It gets the set bonus from Legends Entwined. But even still, it looks completely different than the set item. It loses the +1 lightning skills, gains 2 resist affixes. and then an Exalted T7 +Lightning Blast...

[sterile ledge]

you can use rune of corruption on set items to get the reforged version this season

rolls random stats and has a new 'similar' single affix to the old set item.

[weary hamlet]

whoever made it added a t1 set affix to it and sealed it

[delicate cape]

i gues this SS would be better

gopod timing to just find an item lol

so.... i need to find the woven echo that has the special crafting bench, then "salvage" a bunch of set items, in order to craft set bonuses onto set items, essentially

[sterile ledge]

(or yolo gamba it with a corruption)

[median tapir]

U craft the sets on exalted items

[weary hamlet]

yea and then shatter it

[delicate cape]

Ohhh.... I see. So he took a Exalted helm with T7 +4 Lightning Blast. Crafted the Vilataria's Storm Crown set bonus onto it.
(The exalted helm also had a sealed T1 affix)

[sterile ledge]

wheres the fun without the risk

😄

[median tapir]

The sealed is the set

And u need atleast 1 tier 7 and lb

U can try to havoc slam it

To get the t7 on lb

[delicate cape]

im showing that the light pen hybrid is the seal.

[median tapir]

Honey

Thats also from the set

[delicate cape]

Ah i see. nvm. got lost in the sauce.

[median tapir]

Yeee

I feel the pain

But its honestly super ez

[karmic folio]

lol I just got around 1000 mana from one potion because I casted around 90 meteors in 4 seconds

[median tapir]

U get so fast giga strong

[delicate cape]

I guess it'll make 100% more sense when I find the actual mechanic that allows me to put set stuff on Exalted items

[weary hamlet]

the meteor chains are very fun with the belt, need to slam a +3 potion slots to it

as the slots are real low in my blue band build

[median tapir]

U just run the woven called something bridge

Get u an exalted item

[weary hamlet]

tbh it should just have 6 slots baseline instead of locking them behind 1k mana

[median tapir]

And u slam the set and seal it

[sterile ledge]

😅

[karmic folio]

if I got a spare lp maybe

[median tapir]

The bricks

We love it

[sterile ledge]

(it was a junk one dw LE lovers out there)

[weary hamlet]

got a few 2 lp belts laying around waiting

but only one exalted more potion slots belt

[karmic folio]

id rather use more fire damage instead

or mana regen

or convert potion health to ward

[pale cedar]

Idol omens convert 149% of frost wall damage to fire. Does that effectively mean that idol is a 49% more multiplier?

[sterile ledge]

https://streamable.com/pz05kw

i suffer for your enjoyment. I lasted longer than i thought 🙃

[left hill]

nope, anything over 100% won't do anything

[pale cedar]

oh, that's kinda misleading LOL. Thank you for the info!

[delicate cape]

now that i think i understand the reforge set mechanics. .... why is Ferebor's Persistence set used in a Lightning Blast build.

[sterile ledge]

its a 2 piece set so gives Legends Entwined a complete bonus

so you get +1 all skills +all att +all res just having that ring + LE equipped

[delicate cape]

I see... Okay. So I guess there wouldn't be a 2-piece set that includes a ring, that would have a set bonus to benefit Lightning Blast

so he picked this one... not for the set bonus, but to juice up LE's mechanic

[sterile ledge]

yep

[delicate cape]

That woudl explain my other 2 questions then, lol.

[sterile ledge]

the necklace is the same, (but if you stat stack enough that also boosts + all skills too on itself + the LE boost)

[delicate cape]

Couldnt you take a really strong Exalted Amulet, and reforge "Abandonded Eyes of the Weaver" for the same effect

Granted, once you're min-maxed with Attributes, the Abandoned Eyes of hte Weaver is probably best in slot. Also includes +300 Ward Decay Threshold and 2x 30% res.

[sterile ledge]

like just ferebor and weaver sets, thats +2 all skills +12 all att (so 60 total halfway to the +1 all skills on the eyes) +50 all res just on LE alone there.

and thats without the 16 atts you'll get on the weavers implicit + whatever you have on the ring etc etc. It's just crazy good

[harsh abyss]

The flat crit chance is also really good because it makes it easy to cap crit. But the +skills on the amulet is also really good.

Abandoned amulet + LE + Stat Stacking is a really good setup just by itself. If you can also justify using a weaver weapon with it... you're in very good shape.

[sterile ledge]

completely forgot the crit 😄

[harsh abyss]

There's a reason that "Oops all sets" is popular this league, because you can toss in the Jormun's belt + sword to get another set as well.

And the Lich's Envy gloves too

[sleek meteor]

any idea how cooldown recovery rate on skill nodes interacts with cooldown recovery on items

[delicate cape]

what is this Rift Beast, very short telegraph time, "ice/lightning beam" type of attack. It nearly 1 shot me for like 3k

(and is it an "evolution", because I need to get rid of it lol)

[sleek meteor]

like if i have 300% increased cooldown recovery on my volcanic orb from its passive tree, does 6% increased cooldown recovery just make it 306% or does it apply after the 300% applies?

[full bluff]

Meteor feels so good to play with that area nuking of everything

[sleek meteor]

ok so its multiplicative

i think

ok yeah, the shrine is 100% increased cooldown recovery speed and it lowered it from 0.8 to 0.4

[left hill]

it's one of the horn evolutions

[left hill]

shrine might be an exception then. pretty sure any crs on gear is additive with crs in passives/skills

[sleek meteor]

aw

[carmine abyss]

is INT actually ok for shatter strikes?

I got a helmet with dex t7 and int

[vivid wedge]

Fantastic

Shatter strike scales jointly with dex and int

[carmine abyss]

very nice!

😆

[little hill]

bros are there any runemaster builds that actually utilize most of the runic invocations properly?

or is runemaster just a "for fun" sort of class where you can pretend youre doing whatever but very badly

[cosmic dove]

this

runemaster passives/etc can lead to builds
but very few use invocations
none of them use "most" of the invocations. the idea of being an invoker and mixing and matching combos on the fly might sound fun but it is vastly inferior as the class / mastery is currently coded

[little hill]

yes and i agree

but why did EHG do this on purpose? it feels like the entire class is a joke

[cosmic dove]

so you can get excited about the Runemaster rework in season 10? 😛

[little hill]

yeah i love playing games from a company that give me a half baked product just so they can get me excited for the full product later

almost as much as i love playing games from companies that give me full products then take away part of that product to rebrand it and give it back to me later

[median tapir]

Lb is fire

[delicate cape]

Ughh. i need some help.

I revealed this whole area. No Rune Prison (???????)

it's a sub zone within a normal echo

[unborn hamlet]

It's a known bug

It just doesn't spawn

[delicate cape]

Okthx

[unborn hamlet]

I removed it, use 100% twin mages instead

[delicate cape]

i have both.

it's only 1 point and you path through it (from 1 direction)

[unborn hamlet]

I looped to there from the back so not really

[delicate cape]

yeah same. I rushed it. But now that I've picked up the champion nodes, I acutally can unspec that other path.

Is Lightless Dungeon hard? never done it before. Hardcore. T4?
(Lightning Blast build. lvl 80)

[karmic folio]

its much easier then temporal

[delicate cape]

that final boss looks scary . big slams. phys

[glad marten]

When runemaster was released it was the hottest shit and everyone loved it. Once the meta settled and content got harder it didn't shine as brightly

When runemaster released, everyone said "what is even the point of sorcerer anymore"

[umbral perch]

i don't think the complaint is about the power level, it's about the failure of the vision for the class. The fantasy is that you cast your spells deliberately to generate different invocations depending on teh situation. Almost nobody does that. I thikn I've ever seen one build explicitly do it.

[carmine abyss]

hey qq, what affix should I put into nihilis amulet 1lp? I got it from aberroth. its good for shatter strikes?

[glad marten]

It is about power level, because doing that isn't very powerful. A TON of people were doing that when the class came out. Myself included

[little hill]

then the class by design sucks

[glad marten]

Or, imagine for a moment, that isn't the only thing the class is supposed to do

The runes are generally an important part of a runemaster build, even if youre not cycling a variety of invocations

One specific fantasy isn't being utilized, which is that of using a wide variety of invocations as a primary damage source. I hope they fix that

[little hill]

lol why have 40+ incantations if everyone just uses the one that gives massive ward?

[umbral perch]

I stand corrected then. Probably the build guides tend more towards one button builds which that isn't

[glad marten]

The build guides are from the modern era. The game is more about optimization now than it was, especially guides

You could easily get 300C building around different invocations. That doesn't cut it for people anymore.

But runemaster released before aberroth. Ye olden days

I think Runic Invocation leaves much to be desired in the current state of the game

But it was great in the days before the power creep and the sea of build guides

[little hill]

yeah well when i stack up 3 reh runes to cast a giant fireball that hits for less damage than the abilities i used to invoke it, and still less than the ignites ive built on that enemy, it feels really really bad

[delicate cape]

wait what... you can select a "Guaranteed affix" for the temporal sanctum? what are the restrictions on that. That seems OP

[glad marten]

Unrestricted

[umbral perch]

must be Tier 2 of the sanctum, no other restrictions, yes it is tremendously OP relative to the old days

[glad marten]

It is OP

[delicate cape]

so t2+, allows, maximum 1LP guaranteed

[glad marten]

It basically means that you have like 90+% of your items power level if you can drop a 1LP

I miss the days before guaranteed slams, personally. Makes higher than LP1 feel relatively bad

[delicate cape]

cracked AF.
Do we konw the ~% of bricking an item w/ corruption

[glad marten]

Like 15-20%? Someone knows

[delicate cape]

ye somethign about that took the fun out of it for me, tbh. Cuz I like the part where you have to get an Exalted item that has adequate stats in the other 3 affixes, in case you miss the 1 affix you're aiming for.

[umbral perch]

i tentativley blame Fundamental Criterion for this; provides too much scaling for them to give the inovcations any kind of power budget without it. Or they're balancing around people manually exploiting Runic Energizer perfectly which no one does

[glad marten]

What i dislike is how absurdly powerful it made the high LPL items

[umbral perch]

there is a (Very low) chance for it to 'crit' and add one more affix than the LP would suggest. So a 1LP item has a chance to add one of the other three affixes at random.

[delicate cape]

even if u choose the guarantee option?

[umbral perch]

yep

[glad marten]

It just seems a bit unfair that things like world splitter or even red ring are just guaranteed GG items if you get 1LP on thrm

[umbral perch]

25% chance of something bad per tunklabs
https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/corrupt
20% chance of a negative outcome being 'ruin item'

but all of the negative outcomes basically wreck teh item

[umbral perch]

corruption does shove this back int he other direction a bit. You might be better off corrupting a less-obscenely rare 1LP legendary than tyring to get a corrupted 1LP red ring

[delicate cape]

ahh

[glad marten]

I think so, too. I like the corruption system

Id much rather chase a GG corrupt than a triple t7 or whatever

I was sooooo burned out on imprint farming in S2

[umbral perch]

i imagine they are very aware that the guaranteed slam is distortionary but probably they couldn't come up with a solution that was elegant and simple enough for new players that was any better.

[vivid wedge]

I suspect corrupting a 1 lp is better than a 2 lp in a lot of cases, especially when the numbers of 1 lp can be 10-20x the 2 lp

lot of corruptions that scale off stats in ways that just adding some crit multi or whatever won't do

[umbral perch]

@glad marten Has anybody made The Shattered Cycle work? it's a lot of flat spell damage if you can, but what a pain.

[vivid wedge]

honestly that's a complicated one, it depends 1) how good the stats are on the nihilis, and 2) how much you can replace the stats from the amulet

generally I would say it's worth keeping in your stash and not touching until your gear is more legendary-based and less set-based

[umbral perch]

i of course just want to be able to pick an invocation that looks cool and slap on a unique that makes RI the fourth combo skill for Rune Bolt and then just hold down the button, it doesn't need to be good just abberoth viable. Though I think something that converted excess cast speed into more damage would really help make manual invocation more viable.

[vivid wedge]

you kind of always want to stay at 100% crit chance, so probably via prodigy + the dex passive, you'll hit that without the amulet

[umbral perch]

is there any consensus on endgame defensive setups for spellblade? i've been running a Bleeding Heart amulet for leech on my way to empowereds but looks like maybe low life is maxroll's rec?

[summer sable]

I've been running shatterstrike SB and have mostly unique standard build with T7 slam on each piece. Running into serious survivability issues since 500 corruption (now 800). Are there other SB builds that are similar damage but tankier?

• thinking about low life fire aura
• or flame reave with massive aoe

[glad marten]

Im sure someone has, but its a high demand playstyle. Most players gravitate towards sinple builds. Also, I doubt this actually is better than much simpler playstyles

I'm not really playing RI anymore. I've been playing variations on disintegrate for ages

[stray comet]

Tryna push my damage up to 10mil+ i've got the gear, what am i missing, i do 4.5mil DPS

[carmine abyss]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXzjy336

this is my current stats..I have a 1lp nihilis in the stash as well. just wondering if i should craft it now or not. btw I am over 300 corruptions atm I think I might be able to go over 400 because I feel comfortable at 327

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 97

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (5) / Spellblade (77) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 1,671, Regen: 24.58/s
▸ Mana: 231.98, Regen: 12.08/s
▸ Ward Retention: 325%, Regen: 226/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 113 Dex / 94 Int / 11 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 83% / 71% / 88% / 140% / 72% / 134% / 59%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 54%, Threshold: 334
▸ Dodge Chance: 9% (261)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 15% (433)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 73%

Used skills:

Enchant Weapon / Flame Ward / Mana Strike / Shatter Strike / Teleport

[delicate cape]

what's the set reforge tech. Getting close to having the gear to do it.
Do I want to keep an affix open, Reforge the set item onto it, seal that set affix. Then craft a new affix?

[karmic folio]

depends if you just want the setbonus or also high effects of the shard itself

[vivid wedge]

Hell yeah keep going then

Dex > guile is probably a bad conversion for you

[vivid wedge]

Hang on why do you have ignite on hit on your nihilis

[carmine abyss]

ohh i got a 0lp and 1 lp nihilis.. I've put 0lp one into nemesis.. and it gave me ignite on hit.. bad luck.. and thats why I wana craft my 1lp nihilis but I dont know what stats to put.. either critical multiply or dex not so sure 😆

also I guess if I ever get omnis I might have to wear that eventually?

[vivid wedge]

Dex and Int don't roll on amulets, so crit multi is a great idea

Before you slam it, use rune of.. shaping? to max or nearly max the thing you're adding to the unique

[delicate cape]

prob just the bonus for Legends Entwined

[vivid wedge]

Rune of refinement @carmine abyss

[carmine abyss]

got it! didnt know that kind of rune ever existed. very nice. now I can min maxing stuff 👍

[vivid wedge]

You probably have a ton from idly picking stuff up, they're pretty common

[carmine abyss]

ye. I usually lack of hovac rune.. this thing is rare af

after this I think I will start to work on lightning blast build.. because I got almost every gear for it except orian's decent belt.

[vivid wedge]

That one is from a woven echo so you won't encounter it until you do that echo

[carmine abyss]

yeah.. I just figured 😆 i will try it after crafting the nihilis.. hopefully I can solo it

huge thanks for guiding me btw

[delicate cape]

damn. so to get the Blessings in Empowered monos you need to kill the Harbinger too?

nearly died to one. i dunno their mechanics. He had a pool degen that was doing damage to my life pool and not my ward (I think...)

[hollow bolt]

no you dont need to kill harbringer

[left hill]

no, just turn off/unclick the harbinger checkbox

[hollow bolt]

if you're farming blessing then just farm at 200+ plus corr

[delicate cape]

oh, damn.

wheres that checkbox?

oh nvm i probably need more stability before it shows up

[left hill]

when you click Boss Echo, it's at the bottom of the screen

[delicate cape]

Are we sure Mad Alchemist's Ladel is better than rare wands? Lightning Blast guide recommends it heavily

it feels like less DPS.

[delicate cape]

does corruption increase the chances of the blessing rolling higher in the tier range?

[hollow bolt]

Not it’s random

[carmine abyss]

lol I didnt know we can skip the harbingers

but they drop the keys for abberoth. so I guess I need to fight them

[delicate cape]

The Reign of Dragons boss just hit me 3 consecutive times across 2 different fights, with his big aoe thing. and I was like 1-2 character models outside of the AoE. Should I just assume that was lag / desync, or do I need to be concerned that the visual is bugged relative to the hitbox?

[carmine abyss]

I thought his aoe doesnt do anythin?

[hollow bolt]

That fight has crazy desync just make sure you are well outside the area

[umbral perch]

It's bugged, they hotfixed it to do survivable amounts of damage until they can fix the visual/hitbox mismatch

[rotund ocean]

Feels like Uber's slam is bugged too, so many times I've died to it while nowhere near it

[weary hamlet]

don't bother people have the POE brain syndrome, they can't fathom an arpg that doesn't play like zoom zoom clear screen in 0,1 sec clear 5 screens away in another 0,2 sec while spamming 5000 bullshit per second. It's a lost fight cause nobody gives a shit about how the class is supposed to play, starting with the developers themselves. "invoker class fantasy" was just a marketing label. Also of course lack of balance on the invocations does not help

[stray comet]

Seems the same to me, flame reave makes it easier

[weary hamlet]

fundamental criterion is the worst item in the game by far, as its both extremely powerful relative to its skill, and its restriction/build around isn't remotely fun to build around

[left hill]

i don't know for lightning blast specifically, but usually comes down to how much other flat +damage you're stacking up or if you're doing ailments. the general idea is taking max advantage of the huge 48% more multiplier to outweigh the low implicit damage

[weary hamlet]

also the immutable order is simply annoying, I'm not gonna rebind my hotkeys just to have my spells where I want them on one single character

[weary hamlet]

problem is 1 and 2 rune invos are mostly so bad that a lot of flat damage doesn't even matter there

[weary hamlet]

bleeding heart is not an option as you are basically filling your amulet slot with junk, if you want leech you can solve that via blessing

[weary hamlet]

once you have the vilatria set you have your flat damage covered, at that point the ladle is 50% more on a stick

[weary hamlet]

a lot of shit seems to be bugged like that, I died to some buffed champs (doing uber aberroth amounts of damage hue hue hue ehg game design) while not standing in the hitbox

[stray comet]

I do know poison slug was bugged but they patched that

I wouldn’t be surprised tbh, so much slipped through the cracks this season

For a season that took 7 months to come out, i’d think the QA would be better

[little hill]

it is what it is, but its an obvious clue that the devs dont play the class, if not their own game

[rotund ocean]

It's very apparent that EHG has zero QA department

[weary hamlet]

nah bro you don't get it, this is a very low amount of bugs/glitches for EHG

they did improve QA tremendously, we expected at least 100000% more bugs

[stray comet]

If this is the improvement then Hoolyy

[weary hamlet]

It's just fundamentally broken. If they want us to think and use the skills situationally, why are 39 out of 40 just different flavors of AOE damage? And if they want us to combine them or just spam random invocations for cool visuals, why are all of them so different when it comes to damage types, scaling, etc?

They need to fully delete it and rebuild it from scratch

starting top down from a vision of how it's supposed to play

cause so far it's "pick one invo and build around it in unfun ways"

rule #2 of game design: the optimal way of playing your game should be fun

some of the invos are individually cool and perhaps they should have been implemented as standalone skills

[stray comet]

Damage scaling in this game is kinda weird to me, why is added effectiveness for some skills 100% and others 400%? Why are some skills able to scale indefinitely whilst others have a negative on it

[weary hamlet]

just don't think about it, you'll match the amount of thought the developers had put into it

I'll give you a better idea, forget for a moment about balancing 40 skills against each other

take lightning blast, it has like 3 or 4 "skills" inside it - normal AOE chains, single target chains, focal blast and channeling beam

the developers can't even remotely balance four variants of one skill against each other

it also has forks which is a completely dead variant

it just offers nothing

[stray comet]

Yeah it looks like they based the balancing of the LB skill tree off a thematically cool design 😅

[weary hamlet]

also any variant of using it is hamstrung by its reliance on spark charges, which is a fundamentally failed mechanic on the same level as shadow daggers or storm bolt. It homogenizes all the builds too much and turns your skills into a contest of which is the better application for your class's dedicated primary damage source

[weary hamlet]

but that's not even the problem, thematically there is nothing wrong with it (except Convergence), they just need better math

like add another damage multiplier on focal blast or channeled beam, reduce the cost of channel to like 8-12 mana baseline, add more nodes behind those to compensate for losing access to quad cast etc

although focal blast doesn't even lose quad cast

in fact now that you can have a lot of skill levels from a bunch of sources it might be a bit more playable than before cause you were hard checked by the amount of available skill points

I mean it's still at best 10% as good as the normal LB variant

cause spark charges omegalul

[rotund ocean]

We're over here talking about spark charges, meanwhile falconer is hitting uber for 270 million damage and its nothing but crickets from EHG

Like why even bother playing anything else

[weary hamlet]

only 270m? bro you forgot your place near the shitter, rogue is a privileged class, they are allowed to do whatever

come back when it's 270b

also ironically rogue being busted doesn't reduce my enjoyment of playing mage nearly as much as mage being broken

like how many times am I gonna open the fireball tree and be reminded that Flamethrower exists

[rotund ocean]

It's annoying when I have to put in so much effort just to crawl to 1000c and to even get uber down to halfway, while another class is chilling at 10,000c and farming 100 uber kills in less than an hour. The discrepancy between the classes is so absurd.

[weary hamlet]

yea I'm not gonna argue that, their balance in general had always been a joke, at this point they should just delete leaderboards

we know that it's never going to not be a shitshow, they know that it's never going to not be a shitshow, why the pretense?

[proven haven]

If you stand directly on top of dragon when explodes it wont damage you

Lmao

[weary hamlet]

only need 34 points in LB to make focal blast not suck, maybe next time they could rework the tree so that focal blast itself is not a 6 point tax

[proven haven]

If I remember correctly, a couple months back when asked about class balance in a dev stream Mike had stated that EHG didnt really feel that Mage was particularly weak relative to the other classes. Could have been a bit longer ago, dont want to misrepresent, but definitely in 1.3

That could also just be ignoring the outliers of each class

[weary hamlet]

when mike says that always remember that his benchmark is 100 corruption empowered at best, and in a way that's not wrong, given that this is about where most casual players stop playing

[proven haven]

I dont even think Mage does well at that point, especially.

Rogue and Sentinel are heavily frontloaded for power and just continue ramping

[weary hamlet]

but they are also missing the point that if the upper tier gameplay is too bad then more hardcore players will leave and this will lead to erosion of the player base from the top. Plenty of games already showcase that i.e. WOW

blizz have to invest into making upper tier content not suck because aspirations of playing that content keep a lot of lower echelon players around

[proven haven]

Like every class is easy to get to 100c if you are experienced, obviously but Mage is one of the harder / slower ones even to that end

Most mage leveling paths are huge baits

[weary hamlet]

primalist leveling is somehow even worse

also I wouldn't say that mage is too bait, you can plausibly use almost all skills to level up - the problem comes with the part where you need to know exactly what to pick in each tree

imagine a new player trying to level with flamethrower

meanwhile a "normal" fireball build will e z stomp the campaign

[proven haven]

If you go to spreading flame specifically sure

Rely on early base damage of ailments because otherwise you dont get much

[weary hamlet]

no I just leveled up my league starter in this patch with normal hit based fireball and it was extremely trivial up until like 200 corr where I had the bright idea to respec into coc meteor, for which I barely had gear at that point

I mean maybe other builds can level a bit faster especially on sentinel but it wasn't in any way difficult. Or all that slow for that matter

also if we are on the page of leveling then all melee builds hugely benefit from corruption cause a lot of corruption outcomes on weapons are variants of flat damage which on a high roll can make the campaign trivial

you can hit a rune of corruption from your very first omen at level 10 and get a weapon you won't replace until early late game at least

or it can just drop from the very same omen omegalul

saving you a rune in process

[weary hamlet]

which is also hilarious because they nerfed low level nemesis for the exact same reason but the same standards clearly do not apply to the new shiny league mechanic from the latest patch

[rotund ocean]

All the seasonal content gets nerfed after its done

[proven haven]

Meanwhile sentinel can probably do 200c naked without much effort, and has been for 3 patches now

[rotund ocean]

They don't even need a weapon, just use the judgement gloves

[weary hamlet]

also true

[proven haven]

Not that I think spark charge should be what holds mage together but I find it weird to see it nerfed when its still so far below other classes