🧙┃mage

[harsh abyss]

Tough call, tbh. If you're full melee, the brutality is probably stronger.

But if you're doing any amount of spell triggering, you might be better off with the amulet

[stray comet]

I just noticed this.... a double convert is problematic

[harsh abyss]

Nah, Strength + Vitality is gold.

[stray comet]

My vit is currently helping me reach res cap for poison and necrotic😭

[harsh abyss]

I mean, then you're probably looking for strength + attunement

[stray comet]

But yeah str and vit would be the ideal combo

ahh attunement is better, the health lost can be overcame with leech

[harsh abyss]

You can't leech with brutality though

Need other sources of recovery

But just go for a low life build and you're fine

[stray comet]

What's the benefit of the increased health then if it'll be low life

[harsh abyss]

Low life builds give you more ward generation based on how much health you're missing

So more max health = more ward generation

[stray comet]

Ahh i see

[harsh abyss]

Also there's some of the new corruptions that work with it too. Like, chest and belt have "% endurance threshold as ward decay threshold" and endurance threshold is based on your health. So it kinda doubles up the value.

[stray comet]

Makes sense, either attunement or vit it is then, with vit i can't see where i'd get permanent frenzy uptime since that's kinda tied to Nihilis

[harsh abyss]

Thinking a little more about it, Vit is probably bad to replace. It also gives you health, which works well with the %icreased health that brutality gives while using exulis

[stray comet]

i'd lose around 300-350 health if i went with vit and not having 100% uptime on frenzy might not make it worth it

outside of potions and leech, there's no other way to recover health?

i guess high health regen

probably health on hit affixes

[ashen glacier]

how much ward does RM LB get once decent geared? like at least all the int lp

[harsh abyss]

4-7k pretty reasonably

Maybe spikes that take you higher, as well.

[spark vector]

Ward can go very high depending on your gear ofc, 7k is a very reasonable amount

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, with "decent gear" 7k is around what I'd guess it caps at. If you start to get incredible gear, you'll obviously push it higher

[spark vector]

I think builds last season were pushing 7k Ward with decent gear, if you can get some good corruptions on your gear you will surpass this

Especially Ward Decay Threshold per Int on your off-hand

That would be a huge buffer

[calm plinth]

any1 wants a 3LP BE ? 😄 just dropped one

[quaint solar]

On lightning blast, how important is spark aoe on Enigma catalyst?

[hollow bolt]

How’s flame reave doing this season? Uber viable?

[weary hamlet]

you have very low attunement for the chest, your staff currently does nothing cause you have 250 dodge - replace it with any level appropriate staff and your damage will triple. I don't think that your amulet does anything at all in this build. Otherwise I don't play much invo builds but many things look reasonable here. Arcane flame in class tree does nothing btw

[weary hamlet]

should be although I havent checked if somebody posted a kill yet

[prime berry]

Arcane flame does nothing? Do the hydras not ignite?

[prime berry]

Also when channeling I get more dodge

Also just grabbed a bunch of weaver idol prophecies in cof to try to up the dodge number

[neon cradle]

How do u guys find LB in omens? Im playing on controller and often it is hard to beam into the right enemy

[weary hamlet]

yea nothing is perhaps a stretch, a better wording would be the 5% more isn't a priority at this point if you struggle with base damage so much

[prime berry]

I suppose not, I'd still need to put 5 points somewhere to unlock focus on base tree

[harsh abyss]

Once you get your cast speed high enough, you can kind of hold the button down and wave it around and it'll hit everything.

[calm plinth]

if melee build i'd say i value it highly, but that's my preference. Always helps, but not the first affix i'd focus to be top roll

[novel bane]

Does anyone know if increased frenzy effect scales the damage provided by Frenzied Flame in the Flame Reave tree?

[calm plinth]

currently using Flame Reave as an extra proc/utility for my FA Spellblade, and although my build is not optimal for it, it DOES damage. I'd say with some proper planning (gear) you'd be able to slap Uber

[neon cradle]

What is high enough? Im pretty min maxed, except from multiple LP here and there just missing omen large idols, using normal large idols with cast speed so far

[harsh abyss]

Do you have the Mad Alchemist's Ladle? Usually when you have that it's enough to make your clear feel totally fine and you kaboom everything

[quaint solar]

i see, then i would assume int is more prio and then spark chance?

[calm plinth]

are u playing melee build that uses Enigma as main/big part of the dmg?

or u are caster?

[stray comet]

wait, they nerfed the amulet 🙁

[quaint solar]

caster, lighting blast

[full bluff]

yes! they fixed the gigantic font size on loot!

[stray comet]

W!!!

[neon cradle]

Of course I have

[calm plinth]

I was dabbling with Lightning Spellblade and looking into Enigma, couldn't tell you on the caster side. From what i've seen Enigma, overall, is nerfed for casters, but buffed for melee. Regardless, for you priority of rolls would be INT>Explosion Area>Chance on hit>More dmg from Melee application

[vivid wedge]

Amulet is bugfixed, nerfed on a technicality

[stray comet]

i still have my skill points i had before the patch🤣

[vivid wedge]

Hell yeah never respec again

Think I retained my specced skills when swapping masteries

[stray comet]

Until i get the right Exulis

[graceful glen]

i just put out a video about flame reave. I think its uber viable with SUPER strong gear, but it isnt a gimme like some of these rogue builds.

with that said its probably some of the best clear for omens in the game

https://youtu.be/LyK3bAkZQVI

[neon cradle]

@graceful glen that setup seems stronger https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1s9flm4/flame_reave_spellblade_and_my_experiences_with/, what's your max and fast corruption level?

[graceful glen]

I'm smashing 500 corruption no problem

[neon cradle]

The one I linked is 1000+ corruption level and it hits 600k+ dmg as well

[cosmic dove]

I dont think this does much but

[neon cradle]

lol even 1m+

[graceful glen]

yea his version is definitely strong too. I didn't experiment much with jaspers but they seem fairly similar damage wise tbh. hitting 600k damage on trash makes sense since they have no res or anything,

[neon cradle]

@graceful glen jasper is definitely easier to get than scissors with good crafted affixes, is it viable without those +fire melee and fire pen affixes? barebone scissors?

[graceful glen]

absolutely. if you dont have good scissors i would recommend running a jormun's set sword in your offhand and a sceptre/dagger/axe in your mainhand

maybe a traitor's tongue

or a really good weavers mace

[neon cradle]

I'm leaning towards reave because LB caster just doesnt click for me, even if it has a good dmg

[toxic gale]

does anyone have leveling guide for flame reave?

[graceful glen]

dont think you really need a guide. Just look for gear with fire damage and weapons with flat fire and attack speed

[cursive jacinth]

just a dumb question what does the 800% damage added effectiveness mean?

[timid knot]

it probably means its more "punchier" which is probably has higher chance to critical hit or it means additive dmg to it.

[cursive jacinth]

okok was curios about it :'

[harsh abyss]

If you have +10 spell damage, 800% effectiveness means it's 8x as effective, you get 80 flat damage for that spell

[timid knot]

thanks for clarifying that Zerax

[harsh abyss]

Also it doesn't apply to the base damage of the spell

[cursive jacinth]

ty ty 👍

[harsh abyss]

So if you have +10 spel damage, your decimate would do 240 damage, assuming you have no other stats that boost the damage

[cursive jacinth]

i had a stupid idea thats why haha

[quasi coral]

did some 1 prank me that bladestorm was like spin to win ./ or do i need a certain gear for it to be like that ?

and i got an item what makes blade storm throw out explosive traps ..will that benefit from my skill ?

[cursive jacinth]

better to ask in rogue 😉

[quasi coral]

oops ,

[dull lynx]

how does the autobomber fire aura build scale? doing a lvl 90 (normal) timeline and while its doing ok, it takes time to kill stuff. granted Im not in perfect gear but I figured it would scale better than this unless Im missing something obvious

[graceful glen]

it doesnt really scale it isnt that strong

[weary hornet]

Did EHG just kill a billion mana guided builds with its "fix" to arcane ascendance?

[kindred oxide]

This is me

Singular damage hits not best way to gauge damage output

[karmic folio]

It also ruined my build I was about to do, Arcane Ascendance is the most useless skill in the whole game now, I cant believe they did this

[strange needle]

Nothing new Baal 🤣

[elfin rapids]

Stack Int and Fire Resist, that's it, or just follow Frozen Sentinel build. He started this season doing a Sorcerer hybrid Black Hole with Fire Aura, then dropped Black Hole and went full Fire Aura Runemaster.

[dull lynx]

How did they kill mana guide build?

[strange needle]

Arcane ascendance is not usable anymore,before you could use it and it would not stop your movement now ehg has fixed this so you cant use it,and its good damage overall for mana guides builds ,

Love ehg kill imprints they are pointless,kill many other stuff rofl

Gotta love that omen content is inferior to rift beast in 1.3

[weary hornet]

Thank God I rolled spellblade to start or I would have just rage quit. It's too essential for that build if you want to kill Uber.

[strange needle]

Since you get no xp while doing it so no favor no resonance with players,all the mobs they spawn are trash mobs that give nothing for the player🤦

[weary hornet]

Idunno, I'm loving them omens.

[strange needle]

As cof is not that great

[weary hornet]

Got omen veil on farm status at 300 corruption with my spellblade.

[strange needle]

At least you get more idols and altars from random omen guys

No favor from the mobs its L in my book

[weary hornet]

Nahh, so easy to farm idols and altars. Also, it's a net gain of fragment currency. Get more than the cost for the weaver token.

[calm plinth]

bro, actually F this boss xD Killed Reign of Dragons 15 times so far and has rolled me only one time Crit avoidance at 57%

[harsh abyss]

oof

[harsh abyss]

They just need to drop like 10x as many omen idols or something.

[strange needle]

Yeah they do

Maybe you get lucky but I have people on my discord that dropped like 9 stun chance omens in a row😅

Idk to each their own but this season aint it for me ,

[kindred oxide]

I got uber to 20% on flame reave after an hour. I still feel squishy I die to his regular flail dash. So Im not reaching final phase consistently enough. Gonna try to improve my defense and try again.

100% uber viable. Not easy, will feel like an honest kill.

[weary hamlet]

well they did improve it.. slightly

now random roaming omens also drop idols

[karmic folio]

btw you can still move around during arcane ascendance, it took me less then a minute to find a new way to do it

[harsh abyss]

How do you do it?

[karmic folio]

If I write that here they will also fix that so I wont

[weary hornet]

Tell no one of this.

[karmic folio]

you also found it?

[weary hornet]

No, but it gives me hope.

Still need to be able to toggle it on or off during focus

[harsh abyss]

I mean, they should just rework AA in general

[weary hornet]

If I can't do that, then it's not as useful

It's literally useless. This game punishes stationary play.

[harsh abyss]

Every ARPG does

[weary hornet]

ARPGs are stupid.

Real men play fps shooters.

[weary hamlet]

yea it's rather laughable in its current state either way

[karmic folio]

you can but its a bit inconvenient now

[weary hornet]

Ugh, ruined.

Serious question, tho, in what build is arcane ascendance not overshadowed by any other skill?

Where does it have ANY application that allows it to do something better than everything else?

[calm plinth]

u can go from about lvl 25, i season started it, so didnt have any gear. most important thing is to get "Incinerating Aura" and u can play it. Early on i did Mana Strike, than a bit of Flame Reave till i get Firebrand, and been using Firebrand as main eversince, with Flame Reave + Surge + Flame Ward + Enchant weapon

[karmic folio]

they should just give it a node that enables movement but also increases mana drain and then its fine

[wet bloom]

Guys when lvling a mage... and wanna switch to fire aura spellblade.... what lvl u guys switch ?

[weary hornet]

I guess the logic is it needed fixed because it didn't match the text for skill. Why not change the goddamned text instead?

EHG just loves its stale meta, I guess. Have fun with your dumb RM LBs and spins and Birds and whatever.

Like, there are people near or at 10k corruption now, and they're going to break something a dozen of us use?

[minor monolith]

I played fire aura directly on reaching Firebrand skill

[wet bloom]

oh nice ok, i just finished the campain lvl 46.... so i guess i could switch huh

[strange needle]

Falconer one shooting uber at it again rofl

[weary hornet]

WP trivializing literally everything. But oooooooh, no, you can't ascend in your t-pose.

[strange needle]

Ysah even the 23 frogs was hilarious I would given a couple of weeks with it before fixing that not likr its one shooting stuff

[tiny quail]

What’s arcane ascendance?

[karmic folio]

a skill for sorcercer

[tiny quail]

Oh

You guys play… sorcerer??

[weary hamlet]

yea it's got.. meteor.. and.. black hole..

[karmic folio]

dont answer him, it was just a ragebait

[half pollen]

Ehg still needs to learn that some bugs are actually features and make the game better. Now they invested time to make the game worse

[weary hamlet]

maybe they just need to rework the skill, it just sucks

[stray comet]

Anyone done fractured prison?

[peak cypress]

Its odd how they decided Arcane Ascendances movement was a bug that needed to be fix right now when its not even a top build, also doing a mid patch especially with people played around it as a mech

[proper hawk]

Tbf, arcane ascendance letting you move but only if you were channeling a movement skill is a silly corner case that should have been fixed. Whether AA should stop your movement at all is a separate issue. It was quite obviously bugged.

[neon cradle]

@kindred oxide what would be the best gloves and relic before uber items?

[kindred oxide]

Swaddle of the Erased for sure for Gloves.

All attributes is excellent for a int dex build. Attack speed. Bonus Melee damage on high health when your gameplan is to one-shot is great.

It is weavers will. aim for more int dex melee attack speed, Armor shred, or defenses, resists you need obv.

For Relic, I used an Exalted corrupted relic. The relic was a corrupted implicit which I'm not sure was good, but the stats are important. I'm not sure there's a great Unique Relic. I don't liked the Erased Mage one for this build.

[quiet folio]

🤔

even AI knows Mages have a defense problem 😂

[celest parrot]

Where can i find vilatrias storm crown guys

[weary hornet]

For two+ seasons. They should have changed the description of the skill so it was no longer "bugged".

[left echo]

i just tried a way last night. I crazy farm for 40 hr and got nothing. then i look up on database. another piece - vilatrias staff is normal drop, the crown is rare drop. so if you are COF, then farm for staff and whole set will drop

[weary hornet]

My ES VK build last season used Truesight glass. It's an underrated hero.

[left echo]

farm staff in The Stolen Lance

[celest parrot]

Im new bro i dont i know where to focus, i have the simle helmet but i want it reforged

[quiet folio]

I had claude analyze all skill trees, items, uniques, wahtever...everything..took all day but it came back with RM likely being the strongest build this season just based on raw numbers 🤔 closely followed by ES VK. Abusing madness+brutality and things that are technically tripple dipping even

[left echo]

DMed u

[weary hornet]

Nice work, man. Interesting to see meta analysis.

[celest parrot]

I haven’t received anything

[quiet folio]

trying to see what it comes up with, having all data is the first step, no i need to teach it about bugs and things where tooltips are plain wrong. Just one example based on data and tooltips it thought forged blades would trigger themself as "they inherit all stats from weapons" and if the weapon has on hit etc pp...

theres some stuff you just only know if you play the game

[left echo]

check if you block anyone you dont know

[karmic folio]

what is RM?

[quiet folio]

Runemaster

[weary hornet]

blessings, ailment conversions, etc.

[quiet folio]

yea it does have all of that at least in the raw data

[weary hornet]

Little things like this can change EVERYTHING

[quiet folio]

well pretty much everything LEtools has tho

[karmic folio]

so they "nerfed" Arcane Ascendance but I can still use teleport to get over this gap here and safe minutes of walking 🤨

[weary hornet]

They increased the tolerance range of some movement skills.

Teleport feels a lot nicer this season.

[quiet folio]

Does Madness seriously not have any cap?

[weary hornet]

No cap. At 200 int, you have 200% crit multi.

Better have 100% crit mitigation tho. Madness is nice for crit builds, ala RM LB.

BUT GO TO HELL WITH YOUR ARCANE ASCENDANCE.

[karmic folio]

Other classes cant do that, Teleport is super busted

[weary hornet]

No, teleport is super janky.

[quiet folio]

yea and you can reduce it a bit via Passives so the crit damage taken is still less

[weary hornet]

And vines (primalist) with silvafrond can do that. Volatile Reversal can do that.

[karmic folio]

my rogue cant do it with shift or smoke bomb

[quiet folio]

only "teleporting" skills can, shift is movement

smoke bomb is movement as well, same as Fury Jump etc

The Acolyte thingy can do it as well

[karmic folio]

maybe, I didnt play every class, but every skill with the "traversal" tag should be able to do it then

[quiet folio]

I think its purely down to geometry tbh they didn't even think of that

movement skills consider obstacles etc where as teleport skills only consider if you can reach the place in theory

but both have just the same traversal tag indeed

theres of ton of things annoying me that you can't jump across with like Fury Jump etc (or shadow bomb...its a jump animation after all)

[karmic folio]

yeah its really unfair

[quiet folio]

the fun thing is...if you have a map with a bridge for example (like story parts) you can't teleport across the river until you use the bridge as you can't reach the place without the bridges teleport says no 😄 (but once the bridge is down you can freely teleport back and forth)

[vivid wedge]

I think teleport and transplant are the only ones that act like that, fury leap / shift / lunge don't

Side note, but I kind of assume that's why mage builds have such low movement speed relative to vk/rogue

[flat egret]

heyy everyone, I usally play sentinel, but wanted to try a "chain lighting" type build, someone can recomend one?

[vivid wedge]

Do we have a permalink for frozens lightning build yet

[weary hornet]

Play Runemaster Lightning Blast build like everyone else.

[flat egret]

thankk you ill look for it!

[vivid wedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xT4Bf136sM

tl;dr it's really good, easy to gear, and very pretty because lights

[flat egret]

thank youuuuu!

[stray comet]

We getting somewhere xD

[full bluff]

40 corruption of single T7 staff, one turned into a 2xT7

[tiny quail]

it wasnt

[balmy jacinth]

Yeah, my entire character lost so much damage... feels incredibly bad to be forced out of your Empowered mono's because of it

[tiny quail]

what happens at its limit? is there one? if it doesnt brick

[full bluff]

Area getting bigger 🙂

(looks small because of my wide screen I guess)

[tame loom]

damn that looks cool

[full bluff]

Think it can go another 100%

But effect kind of falls off

[tame loom]

what did you use to increase area so much

[full bluff]

as the circle gets bigger

Boost that with primal reliq and altar

[tame loom]

oh that looks cool

i am playing meteor

[full bluff]

I will too soon, farming up the gear now

Massive meteor aoe 🙂

[tame loom]

what i am playig from acts xD

about to kill last boss

[full bluff]

Plan is to nuke everything on screen (wide one) with a single cast of meteor

[tame loom]

tryingf to think of a way to do that xD

right now a single cast gets me that much

[full bluff]

You can boost that 600%

[tame loom]

oh with twhat

[full bluff]

T7 area affix on staff, idols, area affixes on gear, and 200% more nodes on meteor gets you there, some passives too

together with the idols

boost from altar is important

This goes to 50%, can get another 30%, +relic 60%

(need prefix one)

[spring crag]

Yes

Balancing them is hard

[tame loom]

oh that sounds dope

what about using this amulet

[full bluff]

Madness ?

True glass cannon 🙂

[tame loom]

yeah got this while leveling

maddness seems broken

[full bluff]

All in damage, area, no defenses, nuke everything from afar, thats the plan

Teleport around with decoys

[tame loom]

yeah that sounds fun

i wil test stuff when i hit mono

any items you are eyeing to use?

[tame loom]

willl these cast metoer as well>?

[full bluff]

not sure, never tried that amulet for real

[karmic folio]

if meteor is fire yes

[tame loom]

i mean if they cast it would be crazy

wouldnt that be a shit on meteors?

[full bluff]

My big farming target now is a 2xT7 corrupted vilatria staff

[karmic folio]

you cant really spread ignite with a meteor build

[little pagoda]

you'd be out of mana so fast xD

[karmic folio]

cause meteors just oneshot everything

[tame loom]

oh so its useless

[karmic folio]

Oh you wanna be like Madara?

[tame loom]

i have frost claw and stuff

[full bluff]

My idea with meteor is slower is better, one cast every 3 seconds on running in monos

[tame loom]

wouldnt that spread ignite?

[karmic folio]

you can try it ofc

[full bluff]

There was a rpg 25 years ago where you could spec a nuke meteor and cast it on an entire village

[tame loom]

yeah rn i am running frostclaw and ele nova with meteor

btw when using primal cant use t7 right

[tame loom]

also wont that turn your damage into lighning?

[karmic folio]

Iam also planning a meteor build that can give me 500 Mana +- per second

[full bluff]

Yes lightning is the way to go I think

[karmic folio]

t8 is primal

[full bluff]

The mage challenge every season is, can we make meteor work....

Make the boss mage happy

[little pagoda]

one day i'll work

maybe when it benefits from the mana stacking we have to do

[full bluff]

heh add mana scaling to meteor... thats expansion stuff

[little pagoda]

tbh its just costs too much

[full bluff]

make meteors base damage scale like focus base damage

[little pagoda]

if it got a mana cost nerf of like 10-15

[tame loom]

rn it looks like thjis

[karmic folio]

no focus skill?

[tame loom]

yeah this is something i found from reddit

let me share in a sec

teleport no mana cost and spam

metoer every 4 secs

[karmic folio]

thats lame xD

I wanna use Butchers Crown to solve the mana issues

[tame loom]

i am using it to level to mono

ill probly make something after

have been using meteor since lvl 20

[full bluff]

This is my best meteor attempt from season 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PravxB7gBRw, was not where I wanted it in playstyle, but had some damage

Imagine that with double the area or tripple

and 50% more damage atleast

[tame loom]

thats thunderbolt

not meteor

[full bluff]

yeah, I guess 🙂

[tame loom]

damage is pretty ncie

lightning looks cool tho does it still count as meteor?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/AthanasiusICXC/character/Sorin this is what i have been using to level

[little pagoda]

I hate focus

[tame loom]

teleport is pretty fun

just tp and spam

with focus dont i have to afk and stand

[little pagoda]

how low can you get the teleport cooldown

[tame loom]

i think 3 might be doable

[karmic folio]

you can move with mana guide

[tame loom]

wait let me record a longer play

[tame loom]

i will check that

[karmic folio]

you can use the experimental belt to reset the cooldown with a potion instantly

[little pagoda]

but your still channeling a skill instead of spamming

[tame loom]

yeah but extra button

[little pagoda]

Tbh with new idols you can get 250% cast speed

[tame loom]

i am using flame ward for regen as well

[full bluff]

If you can get 1 free meteor every 3 seconds (+ the refund of 20%), one meteor with 60% regen and 20% refund,

add some 20 base mana regen without focus...

maybe 30 mana regen..

[little pagoda]

a skill is pointless if you cant spam it though

[full bluff]

Thats the meteor playstyle challenge 🙂

[karmic folio]

you can autocast meteor with that one belt while you stay in focus and move around with mana guide

but indirect cast dont have the extra meteors

[full bluff]

yeah, they got removed a while back

mages were spamming glacier to trigger meteors :)'

[karmic folio]

why glacier?

[full bluff]

With mana pool glacier becomes a mana generator

[tame loom]

finally time to mono

[karmic folio]

oh yeah one node doesnt depend on kills, just crits

[tame loom]

you got any good filters ?

[full bluff]

no, sorry, I run very strange filters, hard to share without explaining in detail 🙂

[tame loom]

oh xD looks like ill have to make one

[full bluff]

thats the base of my filter

[elfin rapids]

Instead of Teleport i thought of using Focus with Null Infusion + high Mana + high Increased Cooldown Recovery Speed. The idea is that with Teleport you can only make a Meteor free every 3 or 4 seconds, but if you have let's say 2k mana you can tap Focus (while at negative mana) every 6 seconds to generate 600 mana, then Meteor itself will cost between 70 and 80 (because Mana Fall node), that cost with the 20% refund is enough to spam Meteor for another 6 seconds when Focus is out of Cooldown.

[tame loom]

that sounds cool

[full bluff]

I think that would be better playstyle than running mana guide

[elfin rapids]

The challenge is reaching that high mana AND high cooldown recovery speed AND high int for Vilatria set. Too much stuff to do at once, possible, but need somewhat aspirational gear.

[full bluff]

2k mana is possible

[karmic folio]

mana guide was cool bec you could also use Arcane Ascendancy with it but since today its gone 🙂

[full bluff]

I used mana guide and focus as a way to clear out left over trash monsters and such, thats how I got into playing focus as main damage skill for farming

Nuke the screen and clear out left overs with focus and mana guide, but it didn't quite work that way 🙂

[karmic folio]

oh ok

[full bluff]

With meteor you can turn on arcane ascendance when you cast meteor, drop out of it and keep moving, it has pretty short cooldown, so gets pretty close to spam arcane ascendance and meteor

Just feels bad to play that way

[karmic folio]

you can also go into arcane asc. and cast black hole with armageddon node that also casts meteor and then go out of it xD

[elfin rapids]

The build that i theoycrafted reached 1,7k and that was being generous with the Idol Altar and idols, here if you wanna take a look:

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q9Jg4JGY

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (58) / Spellblade (14) / Runemaster (21)

General:

▸ Health: 1,498, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 1,148.36, Regen: 17.36/s
▸ Ward Retention: 410%, Regen: 222/s
▸ Attributes: 35 Str / 41 Dex / 211 Int / 35 Att / 41 Vit
▸ Resistances: 75% / 69% / 99% / 68% / 68% / 71% / 95%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 41%, Threshold: 300
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (164)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 54% (3,621)

Used skills:

Meteor / Frost Claw / Elemental Nova / Focus

[full bluff]

I am trying the staff path to build damage. Using reforged vilatria directly. Frees up relic for more mana and stats from idols. I think I have around 1.7k mana already. So 2k is within reach. Omen idols are a dream, but not impossible, have 1 half good so far.

Ran out of vilatria shards for crafting...

[sacred kite]

If you want a meteor spam build this is what I've been using. Haven't had much time to play but cruising at 250 corruption right now. Band keeps mana costs reasonable, spam fireball to recoup mana and proc meteor: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BjqLd5ex

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 95

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (60) / Runemaster (28)

General:

▸ Health: 2,381, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 115.95, Regen: 4.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 147%, Regen: 75/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 7 Dex / 72 Int / 1 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 77% / 63% / 84% / 92% / 60% / 47% / 70%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 476
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (72)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 30% (1,418)

Used skills:

Fireball / Meteor / Frost Claw / Flame Ward / Teleport

[sacred kite]

Not final version, but where I'm at right now

[full bluff]

Do you cast meteor directly mostly?

Then trigger more with frost claw

[sacred kite]

Not usually, fireball spam procs it probably 80% of the time, then frost claw starts a chain reaction. Sometimes you low roll on the belt and crit 30x in a row without it proccing so I'll direct cast it then, or on bosses

[full bluff]

Mana sustains works?

[sacred kite]

Surprisingly! It does dip into negative when chaining a bunch like during omen windows, but you recoup mana so fast it doesn't really matter. I can go from -30 to full in less than a second

The gearing requirements are pretty high though because you absolutely need the t7 cast speed on staff, at least t6 mana on fire bolt for helm, plus the vilatria affixes on both. Hard to find good bases that allow that

[karmic folio]

just a random shower thought since you want cast speed so much, what if you have frenzy and convert your vitality to rampanzy

[sacred kite]

I do have frenzy on the boots which makes a big difference, definitely looking at that. My amulet and ring are the biggest spots to upgrade right now

[elfin rapids]

The reason i choose Firestarter Torch was to zero the cost of Frost Claw and Elemental Nova even after i take the nodes that add mana cost to these skills. and also to have my off-hand slot free for Fragment of Enigma (this way all hits have 12% chance to proc Spark Charge, 112% for Elemental Nova). The idea is to proc a lot of hits and all of those hits will have quite a lot of flat damage from Vilatria.

[full bluff]

Can get a kind of chain reaction then

[karmic folio]

oh yeah true, didnt see

[sacred kite]

No worries, I havent found a good rampancy source yet to try it. I also need to figure out the right balance of cast speed and int, both are so good

[karmic folio]

you could use a unspezialized arcane ascendancy for 50% cast speed maybe

[normal hazel]

OMFG guys. been using the wrong spoon for like 30 levels

https://klipy.com/gifs/wiserhood-cheers-wiser-cheers

[full bluff]

heh legendary

[normal hazel]

i was so confused as to why my dmg felt so meh

[full bluff]

Spoon is not a sppon

[sacred kite]

Possibly, it's important for fireball to stay at 0 mana though so you can still cast it even when you're negative mana. I think static orb + Lightning Aegis is another avenue, there's a bunch of cast speed when you have LA idols. Might skill that instead of teleport, not sure

[dull lynx]

Looking for some feedback on ways to improve this. Currently also messing around with the actual immutable order invocation (instead of Fire-Cold-Fire order, I'm messing with Cold-Fire-Fire for a bit more damage)
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BGzbxGMV

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 72

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Mage (20) / Spellblade (16) / Runemaster (49)

General:

▸ Health: 1,222, Regen: 20.08/s
▸ Mana: 174.76, Regen: 14.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 225%, Regen: 20/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 12 Dex / 70 Int / 12 Att / 27 Vit
▸ Resistances: 150% / 26% / 84% / 2% / 34% / 45% / 29%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 39%, Threshold: 244
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (79)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 26% (887)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 33%

Used skills:

Flame Ward / Flame Rush / Runic Invocation / Focus / Glyph of Dominion

[stuck vessel]

heyo im playing Lightning Blast Runemaster but cant figure out why on maxroll it asks for the set liches envyy to get put into my gloves ? im so confused.

[nimble shoal]

Does it use legends entwined? If so, it's just for another complete set

[stuck vessel]

yes it does use that!

[normal hazel]

baby steps lads. we ramping

[rotund ocean]

Nice to see they didn't fix any of the spellblade bugs this patch

[harsh abyss]

I think they've been trying to focus on bug fixes, which ones are still active?

[rotund ocean]

Still haven't fixed iceblink or flame caller

[potent jay]

Been trying to come up with a void spellblade build using Bane of Winter with Shatterstrike... Is that already trying to go too many directions at once instead of just going all in on one damage type?

You can cast Shatterstrike with Bane of Winter right...?

[rotund ocean]

You can, but the 2h iceblink node is bugged, so don't bother

[calm plinth]

man i didn't realise that my idea with the crafted set for legends entwined gearing would be like my actual late game gearing xD so hard to find the right combinations and im broke for Rune of Havocs

pushing over 300C atm and had to go with woven flesh cuz of crits (25 kills on Reign of dragons and only got Crit Avoidance to 57% xD)

[left hill]

weirdly Iceblink wasn't in the patch notes but it's also gone from the s4 known issues list.

[rotund ocean]

lmao

Please god tell me they just didn't include it in the patch notes

I'm gonna actually flip a gourd

Can someone whos using shatter strike test it real quick?

[calm plinth]

I'm on the fire side, sorry bro xD

[weary hornet]

Like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzXDiVa6RY4

[rotund ocean]

Yeah most people who found out 2h iceblink was bugged pivoted to flame reave, myself included

[calm plinth]

i did start as fire, SS is not my thing, feels like arse (not in the good way) xD

[calm plinth]

also, lol big slaps

[weary hornet]

So sad about ascendance.

[potent jay]

damn...

[weary hornet]

2h iceblink node?

[left hill]

Iceblink gives attack speed for dual wielding, but it gives chance for recasts when using a 2-hand weapon

at least, it says it does

[rotund ocean]

It only gives one recast instead of two. It also doesn't work with whiteout, but whether that's a bug too or intended is up in the air, because the devs dont communicate

[calm plinth]

anyone noticing game feels different ? its definitely smoother than earlier (pre-patching)

havent change any settings btw

[rotund ocean]

Probably because less people are online so connection is more stable

[stray comet]

I’m farming omen pinnacle boss with shatterstrike, it’s actually pretty good

[calm plinth]

i'm saying personally, i dont like how it plays, not that it's bad, just not my thing

[stray comet]

Ahh ok, flame reave does look better on the eyes

[real flame]

Nvm. Can't read. Grasp of the blood mage

[lean fractal]

If im playing runemaster int/stat stacking, i can`t avoid vilatra set right? So i must play lightning spells...any light invocation is good?

[vapid osprey]

apart from having a trillion ward, is there another common defense that makes Mages tanky? I can get around 4-5k ward and max res but still feel squishy especially to DoT.

[left hill]

update on Iceblink #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[rotund ocean]

Yeah that's actually huge news for shatter strike, just tested it and iceblink does infact work with whiteout now

[left hill]

runemaster passive is an easy 8% damage reduction
can also go for armor applies to DOT experimental affix or gloves implicit depending on your build uniques

[vapid osprey]

gotcha, maybe Ill try something like decayed skull a bit less ward but seems like the armor DoT mitigation is good.

[gloomy field]

Just starting to get up in levels(65) and been looking for a filter for this or similar build. you have one you can link? tyia

[stuck vessel]

maxroll has one they just reupdated them all today, great place for filters. build is working great btw ( maxroll one ) im level 91

[gloomy field]

Ok great will take a look! thanks!

[left hill]

were you able to tell if Iceblink is only triggering off the direct use (i.e. 1 direct use + 2 whiteouts + 1*0.24*2 [0.48] Iceblinks on average per direct use), or could it trigger off whiteout too? (i.e. 1 direct use + 2 whiteouts + 3*0.24*2 [1.44] Iceblinks on average per direct use)

[rotund ocean]

All I know is, I was seeing 4 recasts

It was either 3 casts or 5 casts when I was hitting the dummy with one attack

[cosmic dove]

is this + cold damage the same as + spell lightning damage on vilatria's set bonus?

[calm plinth]

technically, yea you can read it as that +1 Flat Cold DMG per 1 Dex

[cosmic dove]

so it would be multiplied by 1200% effectiveness w/ meteor?

[calm plinth]

whatever the effectiveness % is, yea

[cosmic dove]

kk thx

[left hill]

oof, ok, so probably can't trigger on whiteout (or occasionally you'd see 7 or even 9 very rarely)

[rotund ocean]

Makes sense, since otherwise, that would mean whiteout would be able to proc itself if that were the case

[left hill]

not necessarily. but anyway, means it's really hard to justify iceblink on 2h vs just putting points in the 8%/16% Glacial Smash node instead

[rotund ocean]

You can only recast the direct attack, you can't recast on a recast. It's still worth it for 4 potential recasts, with 2 of those recasts being casted for free

[left hill]

not going to get into the "could they code it to work" part

as for if it's worth it, it's on average 12% of an extra hit per point (6% x 2), but Glacial Smash boosts all 3 of the hits (direct+2 whiteout) by 8%, so that's a 24% boost measured in the same terms, and 48% on frozen/10shocks.

[rotund ocean]

You're missing the bigger picture here. Shatter strike hits twice, with 4 recasts, that's 10 hits. 10 hits to proc ice barrier, hoarfrost, icy flow, etc... It's a significant boost in survivability for 2h

[left hill]

lol.

no, we apparently just care about different things

[rotund ocean]

I care about not getting 1 shot by everything in 1000c lol

[burnt elk]

Any trigger builds looking good?

[normal hazel]

Yo Lightning Blasters, where does our main tankiness come from?

[spring crag]

the relic

ward when casting spells

in case of your gear above

but most of the times enemies die before they could even reach you

[normal hazel]

Does physical go through ward?

[spring crag]

is it easy to play (i.e., needs careful aiming)?

[neon cradle]

@kindred oxide Is there a chance u could share your loot filter? Im aware I can generate it from your planner, but still it's not ideal and requires some manual edits. Thanks in advance!

[kindred oxide]

i've been using MG filter! sorry

[normal hazel]

guys i messed up...

my spoon... it's gone

i do more dmg without my weapon???

[rotund ocean]

I don't think spoon damage is tracked in the skill dps counter

Since it's dependent on how many ailments your target has

[weary hamlet]

my essence weaver build sure looks good but the numbers are turbo shit so far

from brief testing I can't even tell if the 50% increased effect of legendary affixes on the weapon set works or not

then again I'm still stuck with the +1 skill corrupted prismatic wraps I got at level 15 so this might be a gear issue

[weary hamlet]

no otherwise low life builds would be literally unplayable as everything and ther mom does physical damage

[ornate coral]

Could also replace gloves with grasp of the blood mage, more damage and spell leech

[normal hazel]

Yeah, i did have those for a while, i might swap back. I got one shot was all haha. through like 5K ward

i need to work on my mana a bit too i think

[ornate coral]

How much armour do you have ?

[normal hazel]

probs not enough, io havent got the bessings yet. im doing them now to get more tank

[ornate coral]

Yeah and get some with the % damage goes through mana b4 life, there is also sorc node in passive tree

[jaunty birch]

there's a hotfix today?

[ornate coral]

Also have suffixe on idols 10% armour/mana very good one for these builds

[half pollen]

I would surprised if the 50% more stats would work with the tripled stats for the triggered spells. Not because it shouldn’t work, but because EHG usually cant make this kind of interactions work out of the box

[jaunty birch]

where to report a bug after the hotfix?

Arcane Ascendance can no longer cast with channeled movement

used to be able to cast during focus with mana guide

[half pollen]

Thats intended

Even though it sucks

[jaunty birch]

it's there since that necklace was released..

[half pollen]

It was an explicit bugfix

[jaunty birch]

is that considered as op actually?

[weary hamlet]

irrelevant mg crap

[jaunty birch]

like an "explicit"

[half pollen]

No, it was considered a bug

[weary hamlet]

maybe it's 50% more, maybe it's 50% less, who knows?

[jaunty birch]

okay... byebye my focus righteous fire build

it was fun

it is kinda op with new corrupted and the new idol altar thing

but I'm surprised they fixed that

[weary hamlet]

yea this bug wasn't even 4 years old

see the company is turning for the worse with the crafton acquisition

bugs getting fixed before they are old enough to drink

[jaunty birch]

I tried so hard to find the solution for the +5 mana cost during Arcane Ascendance to keep my mana at full while channeling lol

and it get fixed

it used to pop the dmg up to like maybe 60% if you build it right..

I thought that was intended feature tho

[full bluff]

Time to start that sorcerer 🙂

[ornate coral]

13 LP1 time for some gamba

well 2 LP 3

[full bluff]

goodluck!

[weary hornet]

It's a full spoons day.

[ornate coral]

Getting more lp3 spoons than double exalted items

I never though i would run into this kind or problem one day, what a shame

[balmy jacinth]

Yeah I understand you, I would’ve liked it if they ‘fixed’ it the next season instead of now and bricking so many builds….

Good decision in terms of pure ‘bug fix’

Bad for the players whom just had fun and it was their only build. Making all the investment and effort literal zero.

And if people would say ‘well you shouldn’t have played a bugged build then.’ Clearly didn’t see it existed for the entire time mana guide was there, and they just followed a build guide.

It really sucks, I tried salvaging my Sorc with what I had, but was honestly too disheartened to continue. All my time just thrown in the trash 🙁

[weary hornet]

Swap out ascendance for blackhole. It's different, but still very powerful.

Spec into Armageddon. You're replacing burst damage for crowd control. I couldn't beat uber with blackhole instead of ascendance last season, but it's not all a loss.

And instead of breaking the build that has been around for almost a year, they could have changed the fkn text so it was no longer a "bug".

[full bluff]

Very anoying the first few times, when they suddenly update the game and your build stops working. Happened to most of us. I learned to just expect it and move on to the next fun thing. What ever that is 🙂

[weary hornet]

Braindead stupid waste of time when the have literally every casual gamer playing falconer and beating the game in three hours. Just fkn stupid.

[full bluff]

Really strange they updated that skill now, been like that for a long time, what was the sudden rush

[weary hornet]

I'm pssed too. Was my favorite build and was going to roll another mage when I finished my spellblade.

I don't know. I feel like it was the ol', "Because fk u baalzevuv lol" but I know it's not really personal.

[full bluff]

I thought it might have been some abuse of going on with ladder or something, but checked and couldn't find any trace of it

[spring crag]

hmm

for fire runic invo

should I have a t8 fire pen helmet

or the nest relic?

[balmy jacinth]

Yeah I tried the black hole skill, but because it has no lightning damage or tag, my damage is considerably lower, I can’t go in empowered mono’s anymore… 🙁

sry I’m dooming here cus of the loss, I might try again, but for now I’m not opening and playing LE for a bit.

[weary hornet]

It's not the damage of black hole.

It's the fact it summons meteors.

It also roots and blinds.

But I don't blame you.

I would do the same thing if it was my primary build.

[balmy jacinth]

It was my only xs

[full bluff]

I am never playing Diablo 4 again after they ruined my teleport build! Been a year I think.

Was so much dopamine fun with the teleport and they ruined it

[spring crag]

@proven haven do you think nest relic is better than t8 fire pen with invocation affix in helmet+hydra box relic?

for igneous build?

[fossil lynx]

sentinel is outta town for a few weeks, no? At least he said he was going in his video from a couple of days ago.

Granted, doesn't necessarily mean that he will not respond in discord.

[spring crag]

also igneous is kind hard to aim by using flame rush travel

[weary hamlet]

reason #56352456 why imprints were a stupid idea, now the community thinks the baseline for slams is multi t7 exalts

[weary hamlet]

the problem is, what happens a lot more often is that you have a cool build idea, find out that it's bugged/"intended" not to work, the developers proceed to do nothing about it for years

like how fares the burning dagger set on rogue? Still doesn't work with like half the sources of "burning daggers" right?

no word or bug fixes on it

and it's literally one of two cool new sets in this patch for rogue

[full bluff]

If I was a toy maker I would spend my time fixing the broken toys first, not that much on fixing the toys people are playing with. But thats just an old man views on playing with toys 🙂

[weary hamlet]

how hard can it be to make sure that it works with like 3 or 4 other effects that are obviously supposed to be used with it?

[weary hamlet]

if I was making an online game with online economy and leaderboards, I'd first make sure that some builds are not 50 times better than others, but generally you are right. Lack of bug fixes to shit that doesn't work is a lot worse than lack of fixes to shit that works unintentionally but is not breaking anything

[weary hornet]

Who the hell uses Arcane Ascendance outside of tposing tho?

[weary hamlet]

it's worse, what is it use case even supposed to be? Like channeled spells? Then why the fu ck does it cost so much mana when all of those spells are already gated by high mana cost?

shouldnt it you know regenerate mana instead? at the cost of being rooted in place?

oh right that's focus

so what is the point of AA again?

[full bluff]

If it had flat +5 mana regen instead of +5 mana cost...

[weary hamlet]

it's a skill with shit theme/fantasy that doesn't actually solve any real problem the class has

I'd axe it 5 years ago if I was a class dev

[full bluff]

I plan on using it with meteor, but it is really anoying to play with, so just for concept

[weary hamlet]

either that or I'd make it into a glyph you put on the ground for power up and add a dumb mini game like dark quiver where you have to run around the glyph collecting fragments

so maybe y'all are lucky I'm not in EHG

[full bluff]

yeah 🙂 Lucky I am not a dev either, we would be having 500 way unbalanced builds, over all the place in terms of power and stuff, since I don't care about that

I would just make crazy silly toys that do fun stuff

[weary hamlet]

also just because I'm traumatized by 10 years of rune of power in WOW and now I want you all to suffer too

[weary hornet]

And how the hell can you use any stationary channeling skill in a fight like fractured prison?

[full bluff]

I gave up my meteor build in S3 since AA got me killed so much on beasts

[weary hamlet]

why you just don't, don't you deserve to be punished for playing a channeling skill?

[weary hornet]

jaysus fuk I guess so lol

[weary hamlet]

in case their shit balance and prohibitive mana costs weren't enough of a nudge

maybe they should make flamethrower fireball cost 1000 mana per second

just to get it across

[weary hornet]

Disintegrate is supposed to be one of the pinnacle spells of magery and it's just garbage here.

[weary hamlet]

yeah I won't stop being butthurt about disintegrate

especially since there is like one build that makes it borderline playable and it's void disintegrate

on a class that should be thematically the antithesis of the void crap

[ornate coral]

Haha i agree, even tho i did not play that much 1.2 were imprint were busted, i just wish id see more x2 ex,

[full bluff]

I am glad now that 2xT7 imprints are no longer the way to go, having more fun doing single T7s and gambling on corruption instead. Don't have to spend all the time opening boxes

[surreal steeple]

What do you guys prefer for a mana strike spell proc mage, claw or static orb?

[spring crag]

@proven haven yeah igneous too hard for me

I miss a lot

but I admit that it is insanely OP if you could target well

[weary hornet]

I enjoy the corruption aspect of it. My only concern is that it drives the meta even harder because weird, niche builds, i.e., lightning meteor autobomber, were heavily gear dependent to start, ignoring how badly that build is fukt with the arcane ascendance change now anyway.

Leaderboards say it all. The game ain't balanced worth a shit.

Static orb is cost heavy and to use, you need to reduce your mana gain from manastrike b 80%.

Frost claw is a must have. It's even in your passive tree.

[surreal steeple]

yeah i didn't think about the mana cost

[eager sparrow]

Glyph of Nonexistence and Arcane Rootness is that skills that good on paper and idea and terrible in realization. One day they will be fixed. But now we have another dead skill like Volatile Reversal

[spring crag]

@proven haven the only way I can ensure igneous hit is direct cast

[surreal steeple]

Can you get away with melee range mana strike on the claw though? Feels pretty bad in campaign

[spring crag]

but it has huge cooldown

[weary hornet]

u high?

Volatile Reversal is one of the best skills in the game.

And sorry, I don't mean to sound rude there. I'm simply AGHAST.

[eager sparrow]

Old reversal is no more

Now it's poe2 sluggish skill with wacky conception

[weary hornet]

wait wut. Did EHG touch Volatile Reversal this season?

[surreal steeple]

show on this skilltree where they touched you

[eager sparrow]

It was reworked in 1.2 I think

[weary hornet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmBTkyDFF6w

[eager sparrow]

But it was more like they want to delete old reversal as fast as possible and throwing some ideas in new reversal, but new skill is nowhere enough

[weary hornet]

I don't know, man. It's powerful. I get two charges of volatile reversal every 4 seconds, apply abyssal echoes, and generate a free echo of erasing strike.

[eager sparrow]

I just dont like it's animation

[surreal steeple]

i gotta make a VK one of these days

[weary hamlet]

haven't tried the SO versions but to get SO procced by mana strike you have to neuter its mana return. I think even essence weaver based builds are better than SO

but claw is still likely way to go

cause you can still abuse enigma with melee spark charges

[weary hamlet]

eh glyph is fine(ish) in ignite builds I guess, but it does have way too many dead nodes. Like synergy with disintegrate nodes. Rule of deckbuilding #0: instead of playing one bad card to buff another bad card, just play two good cards

also glyph fire aura is a meme but it's a fun meme

[weary hamlet]

you can and you will and you will thank Mike for this design, personally. On your knees

[weary hornet]

Turns out it was a bug and that node should have never existed in the first place.

[surreal steeple]

how do you get the clear? It feels like you either have clear or single target with the convergence node on lightning blast

teleporting strikes solve it all, but maybe i just need to finish the campaign and get more gear

also apparently flame ward is not considered a spell for this, despite having the tag

[weary hamlet]

spark charges and frost claw procs

also static if you opt to use it

but for some dumb reason (mostly the skill having been designed in 2017) it has a target cap

so it's not as if you press a button and all the omen window just dies

[surreal steeple]

i've been experimenting with it, using this setup for now

also still using this node because it feels very good for the campaign, not sure if i'll need it lategame

[weary hamlet]

flame ward is an instant spell

[surreal steeple]

oh, non-instant spell, fair enough

this is a pretty fun build so far, kinda like baby infernal blow from poe

[weary hamlet]

yea it's not bad, I played this variant before, also with enough crit you can basically unload full statics every second

and hitting enough crit on SB is trivial

[spring crag]

hmm

not sure if it's the devs's working time right now

so I would like to ask

if I have an affix "armor per rah rune" and the reowyn's fortress staff to increase the damage of runic invocation per armor. Then after casting runic invocation such as hydrahedron, I would lose armor due to not having rah rune. My question is, when casting runic invocation in this case, do I receive the added damage bonus while having added armor from rah rune right before casting it, or not?

[surreal steeple]

do you press it or is there a proc somewhere?

[weary hamlet]

you just queue it manually

the only option to proc is afaik is surge and it's bad

[surreal steeple]

surge is really cool in concept but it's range and cooldown are... yeah

and fixing those is pretty skillpoint heavy

[weary hamlet]

surge can be reasonably ok if you scale its melee damage, although the small hitbox is still an issue

it was a minor but okay interaction when it procced static for free

but now that you still have to pay its cost it's useless

[surreal steeple]

is the new spellblade passive worth playing around or do you just ignore it and grab the proccer unique?

[weary hamlet]

if you are using claw you just ignore it

if you are using like essence weaver you get some benefit

[surreal steeple]

i wonder if there's some crazy two-hander flat damage build out there now

bit of a stretch with only 40% i guess

[rotund ocean]

That passive benefits flame reave the most

[weary hamlet]

it's called flame reave, with jaspers you can have like 500 flat

[surreal steeple]

all these builds and not enough time to play them all

[full bluff]

Here is how I level the new mage with legendary gear, if anyone wants some inspiration to try out mage alt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuWYA--kZRk

[weary hamlet]

nice getting the drops for (checks notes) a build I'm not gonna play any time soon

meanwhile relevant drops for the build I am playing: 0

[full bluff]

This could have been fun for leveling up using teleport and elemental nova... but too powerful I guess

[weary hamlet]

beware the cooldown ele nova, destroyer of uber abby

[full bluff]

Taking it for the fire theme it adds 🙂

Elemental nova is a cosmetic skill

[dusk junco]

Hello community,
Is there a black hole guide somewhere that I can use?

[whole jackal]

[robust junco]

Sick!!

[whole jackal]

should I?

[whole jackal]

at least it didn't brick 😄

[weary hamlet]

when the kids yearn for arcane explosion but blizz had removed the arcane explosion

[full bluff]

Adding fire aura too for style

[dusk junco]

Is the Lightning Blast Runemaster build still perhaps the strongest build in S4?

[weary hamlet]

strongest mage build? maybe

strongest in the game? not by a long shot I hear

[whole jackal]

HC ladder is heavily dominated by paladin, while SC ladder is dominated by falconer/bladedancer

[stray comet]

why can i sacrifice a corrupted amulet but not put one in for reroll???

[weary hamlet]

cause corrupted items cannot be modified

[whole jackal]

makes perfect sense like that

[weary hamlet]

starting to think that I dont really need vilatria's set on my essence weaver build between EW and a lot of flat on Static

the survivability is abysmal might swap to architects plan

and just raw dog the weaver set

with a red ring

[stray comet]

weaver set + red ring is pretty tanky with cleaver ofc

[weary hamlet]

got only 3k passive ward and up to maybe 5k active in combat with my current turbo shit gear :{

[stray comet]

i'm thinking for uber of going low life with the stat stacking

maybe 6k-7k ward is enough for uber

[rotund ocean]

If you're using nib, then you should definitely go low life, exsanguinous will make you immune to the bleed

[weary hamlet]

im on essence weaver build, so no nib

[stray comet]

and replace boots with low life boots too?

[rotund ocean]

If replacing the boots doesn't get rid of your 10% damage reduction from the ring

[weary hamlet]

uh folks remind me again does this give the converted version more base damage than baseline?

[rotund ocean]

The boots give you +60 attributes

[weary hamlet]

nah with this amount of stat stacking payoffs you dont want to unequip the boot

[rotund ocean]

Nah that specific affix goes above 100% for some reason

[weary hamlet]

just ehg things

[stray comet]

What about the experimental low life affix? or that isn't needed

[rotund ocean]

Oh my god finally got red ring

and its almost perfect

[stray comet]

gratz

what corruption was you at?

[rotund ocean]

541

[stray comet]

I guess but it's really +12 for str, int and Dex that i'd be missing, i'm farming a Exulis that has strength and attunement so i'd want my attunement stat to be as low as possible right?

[plain python]

After today's patch, I think I need to switch from the Mana Guide. Could you recommend a build?

Most of the items I picked up have become useless, so it looks like I'll have to level up again from level 0.

[weary hamlet]

how much do you want to suffer on the scale of 1000-10000?

[full bluff]

Only build I can recommend in general is lightning blast

I play Focus/Mana Guide for farming, but not sure I would recommend it in general

[dusk junco]

Lightning Blast Runemaster?

[full bluff]

yes thats the best 🙂

[dull reef]

It's funny that I just prefer Sorcerer for LB. But then, cf. filthy casual, so...

[rotund ocean]

Runemaster too big brain for me, if I have to press more than 2 buttons, I'm out

[dull reef]

It's not the number of buttons so much as the Runemaster tree isn't very exciting to me. I dunno. It's just very weird.

[spring crag]

runic invocation?

[half pollen]

Runemaster doesnt press buttons either since runes are super horrible to use besides spamming one thing

[wise belfry]

Ay havent seen you in ages. How you doing?

[half pollen]

Im doing great! On my flay lich

I still have plans for some wonky meme mage builds but since mage is so bad you need super gear to make those builds remotely viable

[full bluff]

There still is some enjoyment in putting some overpowered gear on a fresh mage char

[proven haven]

It do be like that

[calm plinth]

bro i'm not even Flame Reave build, why did i just hit 1.3M with it xD

[half pollen]

I hope they fix that elemental bees are not considered bees.

[graceful matrix]

In the Disentergrate skill does the Laser Focus node make the higher tiers of laser from other nodes not have a channel cost?

[weary hamlet]

wait what?

[weary hamlet]

it will be free at any stage

[graceful matrix]

Is it bad for an Arcanist build to use the Laser Focus node or does it still work as a mob clearing spell/skill?
Unsure on how the Arcanist works with channeled skills

[half pollen]

Yep. No health reg per bee for elemental bees. I wanted to make a health reg spell blade but noooo

Unless they stealth fixed that in the last patch

[weary hamlet]

wdym "arcanist" builds?

doesn't ring a bell

[graceful matrix]

I meant Sorcerer

[weary hamlet]

I'm pretty sure that the only seriously playable disintegrate build is the sacrificial embrace one which you play on spellblade cause you get free crit outta the ass for ignivar's head

any disintegrate build is focused on disintegrate exclusively you don't care about other damage skills

thus you use it both for clear and bossing

[pseudo sable]

hold on corrupt - there is one similar to this one in 6 million with a worse role ,my English comes from the translator ?)

[surreal steeple]

Lightning mage feels kinda weird.
You spec Teleporting Strikes - your mana sustain dies.
You spec Convergence - your clear dies.
You unspec Convergence - your single target dies.
Meanwhile other builds just do it all

[kindred oxide]

Best attempt at uber last night was 4%. Just needed to live for 2-3 more seconds.

His last shield was down.

😭

Couldn't get that close again.

[harsh abyss]

Teleporting Strikes got hit with a huge nerf this patch, the mana on crit/boss hit didn't used to get reduced by it, so you could sustain mana a lot easier with it.

I dunno if they actually intended to nerf mana strike sustain that much, but it was pretty brutal.

[surreal steeple]

it's so over

lightning overall seems the weakest of the 3

considering how cracked cold and fire builds can get

[kindred oxide]

If they changed it to match the tooltip, I'm assuming it was intended.

[weary hamlet]

it was always supposed to work this way I guess but in classic ehg fashion it's been broken for years

[weary hamlet]

lightning seems to be the best by far yet again, or rather the lb build. Are these cracked fire builds in the room with us right now?

[kindred oxide]

Yah isnt lighting blast rm the strongest mage build at the moment

?

[surreal steeple]

spoon runemaster, flame reave

isn't it cold converted?

[kindred oxide]

Idk. I don't know anything about rm.

[weary hamlet]

which spoon runemaster build though?

I wasn't following I guess

[surreal steeple]

oh i guess LB on this build isn't cold converted

https://youtu.be/5xT4Bf136sM

but it's kinda the boring mode of runemancer, where you just position the skills on your bar and ignore the gimmick

[weary hamlet]

the gimmick won't ever work in the game being as it is

cause it's better to spam some brainless shit 50 times per second than to thougthfully use a skill once

at least they could do more to unify the damage scaling of different invos and give you some bonus for using different ones in a row

but they won't

[cosmic dove]

yeah runemaster needs to be completely redone

[weary hamlet]

like imagine you had a stacking 100% more damage to invos bonus for each unique invocation you used in the last 30 seconds

or something

lost when you repeat the same invo twice in a row

[cosmic dove]

press 3 skills in the right order to do an invocation that is often worse or at best equal to a skill you can use with no build up
that's never going to work

[surreal steeple]

yeah the reason it works with Invoker is cause you don't actually fire off the skills before pressing the big button, you just assemble the combination

but the fact that there's 40 possible combos is kinda impressive

i hope they can figure something out with it

you could be doing one rotation for clear and another for single target, something like that

[weary hamlet]

yay I upgraded my 25% essence weaver into a 35% essence weaver

[weary hamlet]

it mostly works because different skills have legit use cases while in LE 39 invocations out of 40 are different flavors of mostly AOE damage so you can just pick the best and stick with it

[vivid wedge]

Unfortunately yeah and rm and sorc are way too similar

Sorc also designed around being mana limited which shockingly doesn't play nicely with tons of damage so where you can avoid focus, or use it for damage..

[kindred oxide]

This is so true of ARPGs lol. With few exceptions. Less brainpower gameplay is a key beneficial feature of builds.

When fighting something hard, I want to focus on what the boss is doing.

When fighting something easy, I want to focus on Netflix.

[surreal steeple]

mana being an attunement thing also kills any idea of manastacking on a sorc

[full bluff]

Getting some more area 🙂

Just the wrong area affix 😛

[cosmic dove]

39 invocations that have low damage and low effectiveness compared to mage spells which are already old and outdated in many cases

[surreal steeple]

arpg devs seem to hate mana stacking in general, poe killed, in LE it was never truly alive

not taking VK in the account

[kindred oxide]

I was gonna say what about VK haha

[surreal steeple]

i mean like on a mage

[kindred oxide]

Mage benefits for stacking Mana. (up to a whopping 300 😂)

[vivid wedge]

The concept of 'root yourself for big damage' is great for oneshots but then you design mechanics that force the player to think and move

So okay AA is kinda out

[weary hamlet]

and the reason why they have those is because fundamental criterion exists but it's annoying to build around and an outlier in the amount of power budget locked away in a supporting unique

[surreal steeple]

and it should probably just cancel itself when you try to move, not locking you in untill you toggle it

[weary hamlet]

criterion is one of the most egregious uniques in the game design wise

[surreal steeple]

i actually tried making a lightning disintegrate with AA in the ancient skies, too clunky

[vivid wedge]

Now if you 1) had a node that started AA on cast and 2) canceled AA on movement or traversal

Then we could be talking

[surreal steeple]

true

[full bluff]

I have an idea for that style, just give me a day to level this runemaster and turn sorcerer 🙂

[cosmic dove]

yeah that whole concept has 2 strikes from me already
skills should work to some degree wtihout a unique
and
that unique is just so hit-and-miss. this build works because it has the right rune in the right slot and this other rune in this other slot
🤢

[vivid wedge]

Also something to be said for spec efficiency, runic invocation as both ward and teleport with some supporting buff

And for..reasons it doesn't get the cooldown it probably should

Since it's +12 not +17 with both nodes specced

[cosmic dove]

for ward, sure
but when you have to put your invocation on a 12s CD and want it to be your main damage dealer...it has to compete with lightning blast which can be cast 1000 times a second...

[left hill]

% mana being a Sentinel/Rogue affix but not Mage is another weird thing for Sorc mastery being kind of defined around mana stacking

[weary hamlet]

teleport RI is used in a total of one build

and that build is meme AF

[tiny quail]

Anyone k le why my blizzard (that I use as teleport) barely moves me?

[vivid wedge]

It's part of the vilatria build

[weary hamlet]

also RI has the whole branch that adds a stupid jump with a 1 sec or more delay

for mirroring some subpar sub invos

[tiny quail]

i mean glacier

[left hill]

mana stacking Flay lich too (unless that got changed this patch, I didn't look)

[surreal steeple]

i kinda hate this node a lot, i love my chain lightnings

[vivid wedge]

Still S tier on maxroll...

[surreal steeple]

i wonder if it would be too good if it would just do exactly what it does but only on hitting a rare or unique

and then you just ditch the other fork node cause nobody uses it anyways

[cosmic dove]

@weary hamlet unrelated but since you are here
vilatria set bonus + meteor is a (meme) thing
the affix on mourning frost is twice as efficient but with dex instead of int
any builds use that?

[vivid wedge]

I think if you just did what it said (+17 cooldown) it would be so clunky we'd find alternatives

For some reason the +5 is ignored when the +12 is specced

So with enough cdr it feels fine now, but add 3s to your traversal and mapping starts sucking

[weary hamlet]

many builds do but usually not on mage, the problem here is that you have like 10 different effects from stacking int and usually zero from stacking dex

unless you are in cold SS which does use mourningfrost

or used to at least in the past

[tiny quail]

do these work together? im not sure i understand

[surreal steeple]

yeah it does, if you manually cast it

[cosmic dove]

gotcha. was hoping there was a unique out there that somehow fixed this

[tiny quail]

oh! you can do it non manually?

[vivid wedge]

Damage usually less an issue than survival so unless you could manage a cleaver solution for dex..

[vivid wedge]

Dragorath claw, battlemages endeavor

[surreal steeple]

there's a lot of ways to trigger LB with other skills

[tiny quail]

oh, like a trigger?

gotcha

[vivid wedge]

Few more, enchant weapon, focus

[surreal steeple]

as long as you keep casting it yourself the triggers should also gain extra chains i think

[tiny quail]

oh

[vivid wedge]

Most nodes are specific if they just say 'cast' they also trigger from indirect

But they've gotten annoyingly smart about specifying direct casts

[tiny quail]

ah!

thx for clarifying

[vivid wedge]

Lightning blast is the smite of mage, everything triggers it

[weary hamlet]

and a bunch of various skill nodes

[tiny quail]

xD

im loving my lb

[weary hamlet]

smite is the shadow daggers of sentinel

[tiny quail]

im just sad that the first 3 days i wasnt pressing runic invocation

i thought it was for dmg only xD

imagine reading amirite

[vivid wedge]

Traversals are also strangely really smooth

Specifically the blinks

You can do some wacky stuff to cross gaps

[tiny quail]

i get teleported basically no where with this

[vivid wedge]

It's very forgiving

[tiny quail]

and the cooldown feels like 9 seconds not 3.4

[kindred oxide]

The teleports werent smooth like that on launch. I appreciate the improvement.

[stone rapids]

do not slander my beloved smite like this

[hollow bolt]

how is leveling with volcanic orb this patch?

[weary hamlet]

seethe and cope paladin main

[weary hamlet]

do you really want to be leveling with a 50 mana cost skill that overkills everything?

[desert moat]

the glacier teleport is so good wdym

[hollow bolt]

glacier so zzzz so was looking for alternatives

[tiny quail]

i hate it! cuz it gets no where and cd sucks

[stone rapids]

vk main try again, smite on paladin is cringe

[desert moat]

try flame rush

[tiny quail]

doesnt that lock you into channeling that skill?

[weary hamlet]

just use any other skill - fireball, ele nova, lb, frost claw, disintegrate, SO, barrage..

or vo for that matter

but you are not gonna have a good time with mana

[tiny quail]

shattering strike was awesome early on, well, early...

i dont remember when tbh

[waxen token]

how is flame reave's bossing damage?

[calm plinth]

will be stupid strong

currently this is what i'm rocking - far from my optimal gear for what i wanted to have as my build for the season.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AVaPVJZv

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 96

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Mage (20) / Spellblade (81) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 1,863, Regen: 80.49/s
▸ Mana: 215.49, Regen: 8.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 366%, Regen: 211/s
▸ Attributes: 51 Str / 50 Dex / 146 Int / 21 Att / 31 Vit
▸ Resistances: 164% / 72% / 104% / 82% / 127% / 99% / 70%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 67%, Threshold: 475
▸ Dodge Chance: 20% (656)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 47% (2,825)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 63%

Used skills:

Enchant Weapon / Flame Ward / Flame Reave / Firebrand / Surge

[calm plinth]

although i'm not using Flame Reave as main source of damage, it contributes about 1.2M on crits and I'm currently farming 350C

[full bluff]

"Elemental Nova" area effect

[sleek meteor]

any idea what nodes on volcanic orb i should take for leveling?

im currently using the explosive ground one

[full bluff]

Glacier becomes massive. Adding area really changes skills 🙂

Can double this again I think

[weary hamlet]

lol rngesus trolls me

at least I can reroll it with 3 lp + corr torches.. I hope

[stone rapids]

just corrupt it for max rolls

[calm plinth]

easy leveling alts now xD

[delicate cape]

Returning to LE. Generally following the Mage Leveling Guide on Maxroll (Shatter Strike at lvl 35+).

I can see why Crystal Swords are BiS base, but they are iLvl 64. So until I find them, what type of implicits should I prioritize on the sword types?
Is it really the +Melee Damage that's doing most of the damage, or should I be looking for % inc Melee Elemental implicit swords?

[ripe acorn]

I have been trying so hard to make an ignite build work with blackhole, but it just feels so bad to map with. Bosses melt, but the actual clear is clunky as hell. Do you guys think I'm just better off swapping? or is there some hidden blackhole tech that i'm missing like going all in on Pulsar

[finite cobalt]

maybe try the primordial amulet (wildfire something) that spreads ignites ?

[ripe acorn]

ooh ok good call, i've been using mana guide

[mild kestrel]

is shatter strike bugged? the 2nd hit at the overlap only does 10% of the damage

[proven haven]

Dont do it, it sucks.

It just doesnt proliferate well. Even if you try a respec into collapse or whatever for better AoE clear

I tried several different iterations this season and none of them solved clear

Even with the wildfire "buffs"

[ripe acorn]

The ignites dont proliferate well? i tried using collapse but it never seemed to proc ignite on the damage no matter how much i stacked ignite chance

[proven haven]

Collapse needs ignite on hit

Wildfire will give it that

But not the main Bhole ignite scaling nodes

So instead of 10000% ignite per second at eg. 1000 fire res you get like 600% per hit

So basically you destroy your single target to gain a still suboptimal clear

Plus collapse adds a minus 30% dot multi and wastes nodes that bhole needs

The best combo I had so far was combining it with fire aura, since it also scales with ele dot and fire resist.

[weary hamlet]

nah I got a few ignite builds to play for real

[slender plaza]

does somebody know why do enchant weapon autocast puts flamerush on cd? it works fine with teleport

[waxen token]

need a build to farm for it tho

is Sunwreath flame reave better?

guides on youtube are using screen clear FR but they don't have Sunwreath, how does that work

[kindred oxide]

Strong single target dmg imo.

Get Armor Shred LP1 on amulet. Throne of Ambition idol. That goes a long way.

[kindred oxide]

There is a skill tree node that gives the sunwreath effect.

It is better to just get sunwreath. Points in flame reave are too valuable to waste like that.

Sunwreath stats are good too and is easy to find high LP on.

[weary hamlet]

you can play with cone FR just fine

[waxen token]

any good planner or guide I can follow with sunwreath?

[kindred oxide]

Here is what I currently have:
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYEmb1bm

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Mage (20) / Spellblade (84) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 2,373, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 307.51, Regen: 9.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 185%, Regen: 126/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 74 Dex / 88 Int / 11 Att / 27 Vit
▸ Resistances: 128% / 75% / 85% / 75% / 94% / 95% / 77%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 475
▸ Dodge Chance: 18% (589)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 40% (2,202)
▸ Block Chance: 14%, Mitigation: 28% (588)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Used skills:

Mana Strike / Flame Reave / Flame Ward / Enchant Weapon / Surge

[stray comet]

i might just give up, i can't get this amulet to drop brutality and apathy

[hollow bolt]

im leveling my alt with flame reave battermage endeavour its so much fun

[stray comet]

No idea what to spend this on

[surreal steeple]

dang that's a juicy mage

[sweet wagon]

Can someone explain me why the lightning blast build on maxroll get lich's and ferebor's set ? I really don't understand why totem and shade set. Maybe I'm dumb and I'm missing something

[vivid wedge]

More sets, more skill levels and resistances via legends entwined ring

[sweet wagon]

Ohh I see, as I thought I'm dumb

thanks

[full bluff]

Single meteor size...

Now to get this to scale

[desert moat]

anyone wanna help me for a bit?

[full bluff]

Can this work...

[molten escarp]

whats a good mage build, whats everyone playing? getting bored of my warpath sentinel xD

[full bluff]

Everyone is playing runemaster lightning blast 🙂

[vivid wedge]

Or flame reave spellblade, or shatterstrike spellblade

But mostly runemaster lightning blast

Oh and fire aura spellblade sometimes

But still, mostly lightning blast

[cosmic dove]

not everyone. I'm playing meteor because I'm dumb!

[kindred oxide]

Fire aura spellblade seems most popular of the spellblades.

[kindred oxide]

You mean "cool"

[vivid wedge]

I think everyone wants meteor to work, really everyone

[full bluff]

Playing meteor too now

[cosmic dove]

I mean it doesnt not work but compared to spellblade or .... void knight

[vivid wedge]

Or anything rogue

Or..

[cosmic dove]

Compared to manual runic invocations it rocks 😏

[desert moat]

who needs ladles?

[vivid wedge]

Mage is already a little more active with an active defensive ability (shield) and a bunch of damage debuffs to manually apply, I don't want to be an invoker playing piano

[cosmic dove]

I would play invoker if it got completely redesigned but I highly doubt that will ever happen

[kindred oxide]

I have a diff issue with rune master. I feel like runemaster and sorcerer kinda fulfill the same ARPG fantasy niche.

Kinda wish they gave mage a minion spec instead like the other classes.

Maybe a conjurer that summons Elementals.

[vivid wedge]

Offhand I think they have trouble raising builds to S tier, or at least they're inconsistent about it. FG didn't get there, spellblade didn't get there, rogue immediately got there

[surreal steeple]

there's a new word for crappy clunky builds
"Involved gameplay"

[molten escarp]

is the maxroll guide for runemaster lightning good to follow? i noticed some top mages on leaderboards run some different spells like static or runebolt, im a noob mage only ever played vk

[surreal steeple]

so when your build sucks you know how to say it politely now

[vivid wedge]

Yeah agree, sorc and rm are almost the same

[vivid wedge]

It's not completely optimal for damage but it trades some of that for more useability friendliness

[kindred oxide]

If I had to choose between trusting:

a website made to churn out content asap for the masses

Vs

Proven in game results.

I prefer the latter if I want better results for myself.

[full bluff]

Transient rest are stilled buggy, if not, might be the way to solve sustain on metoer

[vivid wedge]

Maxroll is good enough and glacier teleport is friendlier than RI, but frozen's build is probably better at the ceiling

Basically if the question you're asking is "what's a good mage build to play" then follow maxroll, once you progress to "which of these ladles should I slam first" you should probably be on frozens build

[full bluff]

Then come asking here for something different to play, if you become a mage geek 🙂

[kindred oxide]

Yeah that's a good way to put it.

Maxroll will put you on the right path for sure, but at some point if you want something optimized, you may grow out of maxroll.

[tall forge]

Is there a good flame reave guide out there?

(I just want to use the new mtx its shiny as hell)

[surreal steeple]

blackhole mage build someday

[cosmic dove]

someday

Frozen tried a bunch and nothing yet

[kindred oxide]

I haven't seen one yet. It wasn't even recognized as a viable build til a few days in

[cosmic dove]

they need to prune about 10 pts from the tree

and then make other changes

[kindred oxide]

Maybe I'll make one but i kinda ripped off the build and modded it to my liking.

[spring crag]

Btw did you manage to reach uberroth final phase?

[kindred oxide]

I died at 4% last night

I needed to live for 2 more seconds lol

[spring crag]

:)))

[surreal steeple]

also disintegrate viable never ever

[spring crag]

Wow that's was good

I'm excited to see uberroth kill with flame reave online

[tall forge]

disintegrate looks cool but its just so counterproductive to have to stand still and channel

[cosmic dove]

I've always wanted there to be a BH + disintegrate build
disintegrate gives damage reduction and cooldown reduction speed while channeling
but both skills need so much help ...

[kindred oxide]

I made it to final phase a few times after but died at some point.

It's hard I don't know how well I can replicate it even when I do kill it.

Kill rate on other classes in previous seasons was like 75%+

[spring crag]

Take less than 4 min?

[kindred oxide]

Like 20 in a row on VK.

Like under 90s some of them

Flame Reave kill is really honest tbh

[vivid wedge]

Someone was oneshotting on rogue for fun

[surreal steeple]

funny that the crit stacking for disintegrate got killed a few patches ago

[kindred oxide]

Some builds will smash it with zero effort.

[surreal steeple]

with the ingward head offhand or something like that

[kindred oxide]

Flame reave feels like Mage Erasing Strike.

[spring crag]

Currently I expect flame reave to have 3 min kill online

[kindred oxide]

I think I'm on pace for 3-4 min. I don't know how much time my 4% was

With time rot vk and swarm blade druid. It was about a minute.

I saw falconer do it in like 10s.

[spring crag]

Falconer is supposed to one shot, not 10s

[kindred oxide]

How fast are runemaster killing? What about sorc?

Oh lol crazy. Yah I didn't play season 3 so whatever happened last season I'm not aware

[spring crag]

Last patch was 55 sec by frozensentinel

Rm

Not sure about sorc

[vivid wedge]

Frozen killed on a meme BH build

[kindred oxide]

Shatter Strike can prob handle uber

[cosmic dove]

👀

[spring crag]

Yes

[spring crag]

We have countless shatter strike kill already

Since 1.2

[kindred oxide]

Ahh. Must be some skilled gamers lol

It's still super hard with all these buffs.

[spring crag]

It's because shatter strike is S tier

Maxroll ranked them wrong

[kindred oxide]

Is it still? I'll do that next.

Maxroll ranks everything wrong.

[spring crag]

Have not tried that yet

[kindred oxide]

Well they get the top ones.

[spring crag]

But real test result shows that shatter strike is S tier in season 3

Flame reave is not even close

[vivid wedge]

It's got a billion more nodes

[full bluff]

First test of the meteor build concept https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJGXFqzzp_w

[kindred oxide]

Yeah flame reave is strong but really fair.

[vivid wedge]

Tbh anything on spellblade is fair with that little range, if you kill uber you've earned it

[spring crag]

But @kindred oxide people would be reađly excited if you have a flame reave kill online

Because in season 3 I'm not aware of any kills using flame reave

[kindred oxide]

Im sure others have. I think Chinese community caught on to the build earlier

But yeah I will post a video

My 4% was my 3rd attempt of the night and couldn't get thst close again for an hour.

😭

[spring crag]

Yes but I dont have access to Chinese community and do I have to know Chinese when I access there to know what they are doing?

[vivid wedge]

The comparison builds are ES/warpath, rogue bladestorm/shadow rend anything, mana lich, and primalist..uh, anyway

A mage equivalent would be fantastic

[kindred oxide]

I just assume that because the leaderboards had players on the same buildmany with Chinese names. And there are no guides or content in English

[spring crag]

Huh where is abom?