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warped crow
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i think them being exclusive to exalted items is probably the only ballancing point i agree with ngl

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cuz it lowers the gap a bit between legendaries and exalteds

harsh abyss
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Yeah, but like the primordial uniques are SO strong that it's gonna be hard to swing

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Almost every build can benefit from at least one

warped crow
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better than them adding useless uniques i guess

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lol

harsh abyss
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I just want them to buff Battlemage's Endeavor

warped crow
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whas dat again?

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oh oh ye

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ye that would be good

harsh abyss
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Even with a perfect roll it's not worth using over Dragorath's Claw

warped crow
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and its a twohander so it makes it even worse

harsh abyss
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Exactly

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If it was 100% chance to cast Lightning Blast it could be good

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But as it is now, it's just worse

warped crow
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ye

left hill
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mathing around with Wildfire Embers, that Fire Res -> Ignite Chance packs a serious punch

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Not on the same level as Lich's absurd Flay Chaos Bolts mana stacking build, but some really hefty DPS. And the Ignite spreading should let it handle crowds pretty well.

left hill
harsh abyss
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Yeah, I'm hoping some of those lesser used uniques get buffs when Spellblade hopefully eventually gets skill updates

weary hamlet
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yeah the damage bonus is actually insane if your damage mostly comes from ignites. Basically for ignite damage the repeated spell has 800% more, at 12% chance per wisp that's 95% more damage per wisp, of which you can have an average of what - 3? 4? out? And it has ignite spread on top of it for extra cleave damage. This unique is insane and the only thing that stops it from being overhyped is that it's narrow and the builds it supports are currently mid

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sinantra's mace at t8 is hilarious

weary hamlet
coral thorn
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should i use maehlin's hubris, burning avarice or something else for a runemaster fire ignite build

sharp mantle
coral thorn
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i can never figure out the gloves properly so i'm wanting glove recommendations

sharp mantle
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oh my bad. Hand of Justice (fire pen & easy 3lp), Rule of the Simoon (fire shred/nados), Grasp of the blood mage (the damage smearing affix is really good) or exalted are all good.
The two you said are also decent

coral thorn
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yeah just like to have an ignite fire spread build with hydrahedron so using the new amulet, cinder song, and box of hydrea and didnt know if there's some really good gloves to loop into the build

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oh and calamity

meager stream
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Anyone has a bench mark time for a fresh start to a9 done with all quests (points, idols) on mage?

hot heath
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hard to say bc traditional routes will have you go a1-7 and then you have to find a key for the skip while doing monos

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that a7 time is about sub 2 hours

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if youre speedrunning

meager stream
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I didnt keep track on my a7 time, but I did full a1-9 complete with all quests in 3:50 (which I think I can get to 3:20) cuz I was using to much time on build and checking shit, killing to many mobs etc.

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Would 3:20 be a decent time?

spare glen
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@radiant vessel any ideas on shatter strike primordial? 🤔 uniques dont seem to fit much

harsh abyss
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Bleed goves with bloody nib are probably bonkers

timber sigil
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hey guys i was wopndering could frozen sentinels lightning blast spark charge be played with elemental nova?

radiant vessel
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Makes it actually able to live at 1k c

timber sigil
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i just love that skill to death and think the clear would feel so much better

radiant vessel
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Like you go bleed shatterstike you mean?

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Sounds awful xd

harsh abyss
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Thematic though

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Yeah probably bad

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I was thinking about stacking bleed duration for the bleeds on you or something

radiant vessel
harsh abyss
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What about the Crown for mana sustain on shatter strike?

radiant vessel
radiant vessel
timber sigil
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aah okay ty

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kinda sad

radiant vessel
timber sigil
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i love the feel of elemental nova

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it just feels so good to use

radiant vessel
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Ah fair

harsh abyss
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You could use ele nova for clear. I always love nova + teleport

timber sigil
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my favourite skill on mage and my favourite adaptation of a nova skill in arpgs

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yeah but i aint rly smart to build a build myself and i got a lot of stuff going on so i rly dont whanna think about it too much

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and if u lose a lot of dmg then thatd be a lot of thinking to make it viable

harsh abyss
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Ele Nova is tough to make viable, unfortunately. It just doesn't have the multipliers in there without getting like 35+ points into the skill, and that'll take you outside of what you can do to buff a single element

waxen sigil
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and it’s eye r***

harsh abyss
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It does make it a bit tough to see sometimes.

spare glen
lavish apex
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well, two items

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you can actually get 12 on crest of unity with the new item that makes legendary skill ranks 50% stronger

harsh abyss
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Yeah, the problem is that while you can get it to a decent level of aoe damage, not many builds struggle with that. And its garbage for single target forever because of the damage ratio and the fact that its only one hit.

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Even with a perfect setup it will never be a boss killer

lavish apex
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I only know about the itemization from my buddy theorycrafting stuff with it. he's been trying to make a selfcast nova work for a while now

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you can pretty easily get to +15 between chest, helmet, and gloves

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i never realized that the damage effectiveness was so low. marrow shards has a similar issue where literally all of the damage comes from stacking a ton of multipliers and base crit on the tree

harsh abyss
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Yeah

weary hamlet
# timber sigil i love the feel of elemental nova

yea its a shame that this skill had been consistently bad for 4+ years now and keeps falling further behind, and instead of a real rework they are slapping extremely ineffective band aids at it once in a blue moon

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tbh they should drop its tree structure completely and reduce the element customization to three independent nodes in a small branch right off the start (like how it is for Runebolt)

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it's a joke that it's the worst skill in the game that you can get 40 skill points in

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and it still sucks

weary hamlet
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if you can see anything on your screen are you even trying?

lavish apex
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i tried making a runebolt machine gunner after my failed decimate build last season. still couldn't get runebolt to feel good

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it does look really cool though when you've got a runestone firing off max projectiles

weary hamlet
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I ran it last season in the ole good VO/RB build

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might try it again with the blue ring as it was heavily gated by the cast speed

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and/or might allow us to drop some of the mana efficiency points in favor of more damage

dark bluff
coral thorn
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anyone help me with making a loot filter? i feel like i did something wrong. trying to get blues to be hidden but they aren't dissapearing. is it level dependant or something?

neon bobcat
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your filter rules might not be in the right order?

minor monolith
weary hamlet
minor monolith
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Lots of filters put a level condition on this of 4-100 so that you still see a few blues and stuff very early in the game

coral thorn
minor monolith
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Yes that’s pretty normal, you want to make sure your show rules are only showing items you want to see

coral thorn
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yeah that was the problem. it wasn't hiding the things i didnt want to see. but knowing that it was putting the number that was screwing with the system helped a lot

minor monolith
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Aka set the conditions on rarity and/or make sure the affix tier rules are such that you see the right things

coral thorn
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again, i was doing all of that. i just had a show all rule that was screwing everything up. deleting it fixed everything

minor monolith
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That being said many blues are still worth seeing so I don’t think “hide all blues” is a good filter idea, for instance a T5 only hybrid health item is blue but is worth seeing for rune of shatter/removal

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Likewise for any class specific affix shards that are rare

coral thorn
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was following an older guide on how to make a filter and it was one in there so i did it. but you are kinda right. i just get a bit turned around on some of that stuff from time to time

minor monolith
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Usually I like to recolor items like these as gray and then just pick up and shatter/removal on the spot

uncut zealot
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Hide all blues and above it, recolor w/e mods you want like hyb

coral thorn
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this is what i was trying to do but it was having issues

minor monolith
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The most basic of basic filters for me does the following: hides all items, shows desirable idols, shows during leveling items with multiple desired stats, shows all exalts with desired stats, shows all multi exalts, shows all T7s, shows items with high tiers of rare shatter mods, shows all uniques/sets/legendary

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And then you tweak from there later

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Recolor those categories as you see fit

weary hamlet
left hill
# weary hamlet yeah the damage bonus is actually insane if your damage mostly comes from ignite...

How much More it works out to depends very heavily on your existing Ignite chance and Fire Penetration. It's not universally "800% more." On the build I'm working on, it's only around 67% More on the repeats vs. non-repeats because it already has a bunch of Ignite Chance and Fire Pen. At peak wisps (which takes 8s to build up) on average you'll have 2.88 wisps, and if they're all within 12m, that gets you 0.3456 repeats per direct cast.

But that part is still excellent for bosses and the Spread should do a ton of work for clearing and the Fire Res -> Ignite Chance does a ton of work in general.

left hill
gusty rampart
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heya. new to mage. is runemaster a viable end game spec? or are the combos more a novelty?

harsh abyss
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They're a bit more of a novelty, you usually choose 1 and build around it, or you don't build specifically around it and use whatever one you get

lavish apex
left hill
lavish apex
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yeah as soon as I saw the gloves I knew someone(my buddy) was gonna think about crest of unity giving an insane amount of skill points for a single slot

left hill
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given you can already get 10 between unique+affix though, feels like there are better uses of primordial than another 2

weary hamlet
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also given that no amount of extra skill points is fixing nova and surely not two

lavish apex
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I agree, it's more about what's possible than what's good

left hill
weary hamlet
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whoa whoa dude your nova came close to 1m dps?

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no way you are hitting that with real gear

left hill
delicate python
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Do you guys think that mage builds is the fastest farmer in the game atm or is there another class that can outfarm mages?

true junco
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When should I swap to lightning blast runemaster on league start? Im planning to level with glacier/ shatter strike

weary hamlet
slender rampart
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Do you guys kknow if Mana spent gained as ward works with triggered skills?
Same question for archmage (mana refund tech), works with triggered skills?

left hill
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and the mana refund is on "use" which requires pressing the skill button, so no procs

harsh abyss
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I know it's going to be very unhelpful, but I believe some sources of "mana spend gained as ward" work with triggered spells, but most don't (I can't remember which offhand.

I'll confirm that Archmage doesn't work with triggered mana costs, it's only on direct cast.

slender rampart
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THanks, got it. I wish we had better wording about some passives, skills, etc.

weary hamlet
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they need to fix another few millions of bugs before they start making passes at wordings and clarity

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cause at this point you still can never trust anything that is said in the tooltips because chances are the skill simply doesnt work that way

tender wolf
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But wording clarity is so easy an intern can do it so surely it can be fixed

waxen sigil
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Well it’s not getting fixed anytime soon big fella

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(Probably ever)

hearty jolt
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oh wow they fixed wall snapshotting

errant dragon
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Too bad cause t8 frost wall dura gear swap snapshot would have been pretty fun

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Add another xx mil DPS to this

unreal umbra
trail maple
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Is there anyway to convert lightning blast to fire or meteor to lightning?

harsh abyss
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Meteor to lightning can be done with the Vilatria set

lavish apex
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vilatria's staff converts it to lightning

harsh abyss
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No way to convert LB to fire, BUT if you do Fireballs with the "in a line" node, it does very good single target

trail maple
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Gotta be LB. Trying to cook something with Harbinger of Starts + Mana Guide + Butcher's Crown

harsh abyss
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Bad news, you can't use the vilatria set and butcher's crown. You CAN still convert meteor to lightning (that just requires the staff), but you won't get the big benefit of the set because it either requires the ring or the helmet, but you can't do that with the Crown

trail maple
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I don´t need the set itself tho, right? The staff has the modifier to convert

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The set bonus is the lightning damage

harsh abyss
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Yeah

trail maple
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Oh, nvm, didn't read your message in full

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LOL

lavish apex
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the set bonus is where a large chunk of the power lies

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nearly all of it

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embrace the meme, run void meteor with Lament

harsh abyss
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OR just swap to Static Orb instead of Meteor

lavish apex
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I said meme not a good build

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"good"

harsh abyss
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oh, my bad 😝

trail maple
lavish apex
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who wants to sign my petition to make stardust give meteor a new visual effect based on the highest damage type in the meteor

harsh abyss
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That would be cool

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I wonder how much mana you could get to using a T8 mana on chest. 360 flat mana is pretty crazy

lavish apex
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on a related note, I really wish we could see a damage type breakdown for our tooltips

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stardust meteor being the biggest use case, but there's plenty of other skills where it would be useful

harsh abyss
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Better tooltips and dps checks would be wonderful, for sure.

lavish apex
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basically anything with really high damage effectiveness when you're adding a lot of typed-flat damage

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EQ is another good one

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it doesn't even need to be exact like PoE's damage breakdown. Just give me like`

X% Fire
Y% Cold
Z% Lightning```
harsh abyss
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Yeah but if they can tell you that, they can tell you the average damage or damage range per hit

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They have to do the same amount of calculations to display both sets of numbers 😝

lavish apex
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right but they pretty explicitly have said in the past they dont'want to go that in depth

harsh abyss
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I'm excited to try lightning meteor with alchemist's ladle.

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48% more damage on meteor is gonna be fairly significant

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And all that cast speed

lavish apex
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ya

half pollen
weary hornet
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Staff has the affix. Ring just makes set bonus work on helm.

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With the ring, you could make the lightning staff work without helmet tho

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Which could make fractured crown usable with the build, I suppose.

oblique merlin
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hi

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looking to get a Mana Guide Unique Amber Amulet tomorrow after the maintenance ends

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I've never done a moving focus build before, it looks cool

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and very similar to warpath

minor furnace
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Hello, at what level do you recommend changing mastery due to the cost of gold?

harsh abyss
# half pollen You need the staff for lightning meteor

You get the flat lightning damage from the set, you don't actually have to convert the base damage to lightning. You lose a bit from Stardust, but since most of your flat is coming from Int anyway, it won't be a huge loss.

weary hornet
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Wizzy, hopefully there's a way to make it put out real dps with one of the new primals. Otherwise, it's slow and janky.

oblique merlin
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damnit

weary hornet
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I mean, dps against Uber. Otherwise, works at 1000+ corruption well enough.

oblique merlin
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I kinda wanted it to do both

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but alright

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can't have everything in life

weary hornet
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Me too, but couldn't get it there. Best I did was killing first harbinger in Uber fight. I do think it'll be possible in 1.3, tho.

fresh adder
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hey guys I'm swedish and would love to play on launch with someone, I dont mind speaking english but preferably someone close so the lag doesnt hit too hard, please dm if ure down

willow bay
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how good is surge?

fervent ledge
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Mage dog shit again ?

oblique merlin
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I would love to go sorcerer Ice Nova if freeze and chill actually had any usefulness on bosses tbh

thin shadow
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Would the wildfire wisps from the primordial amulet use your mana for the repeated casts? Seems pretty ambiguous

harsh abyss
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I don't think so, it feels like it would say that. Usually triggers of any sort won't cost mana unless they say they do

rustic scaffold
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I'm wondering if that ignite item would have any benefit to a fire mage of any kinds

harsh abyss
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It's probably very good on the "fireballs in a line" build, because it'll give anything with a ton of ignites a lot of AOE. But then the wisps will alsogive you more single target damage too

oblique merlin
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I didn't knew people played fireballs in a line

harsh abyss
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I usually use it for leveling if I have a firestarter's torch

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Makes leveling a breeeeze

fervent ledge
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No stier mage builds

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On maxroll

harsh abyss
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Mage is in a pretty weak spot right now. Almost no changes in the patch and it was already weak before.

fervent ledge
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Weird I thought maybe they fix

weary hornet
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It's possible and no one knows of creative synergies with the new items yet?

fervent ledge
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Guys In beta said it'd just blast static with double DMG

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Same junk still slow Uber

weary hornet
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I have a feeling Uber will doable with other builds.

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Just don't know if there's a newer, bigger bad than Uber.

weary stirrup
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hey everyone, newbie here, i have been looking into what i want to play and i have been liking the look of the lightning blast but i had seen sorc and runemaster, which is better ? (sorry for noob question)

sour trellis
coral thorn
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anyone willing to help me refine my skill tree for my ignite spread runemaster? need help figuring out things to shore up defenses and whatnot. pushing for fire, fire pen, ignite, ignite pen, and dot dmg. planned on using blessings to shore up defenses for the most part and gonna lean into uncapped fire res where i can. rings are both wanted and placeholders. not sure what rings or gloves to use
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYjqmDDA

silk pewterBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Runemaster (93)

General:

▸ Health: 1,704, Regen: 28.4/s
▸ Mana: 211.48, Regen: 10.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 110%, Regen: 16/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 2 Dex / 23 Int / 2 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 148% / 24% / 48% / 0% / 0% / 2% / 2%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 404
▸ Armor Mitigation: 5% (103)

weary hamlet
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if you want to be playing builder-spender surge is the only real option left

weary hamlet
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we used to be able to permafreeze any boss and it was exactly as bad as it sounds

weary hamlet
weary hamlet
rustic scaffold
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Wish they’d change firebrand, that animation is so clunky

weary hamlet
# coral thorn anyone willing to help me refine my skill tree for my ignite spread runemaster? ...

I took a glance and I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve, I don't think glyph has the best synergy with the amulet (and your glyph tree ain't good), your VO is poorly specced, and the point in using the rune bolt in your current configuration is also not clear. Usually it's used for mana regen in VO builds, or to supplement invos. At this point you have three skills that want to be the build around but none of them is particularly empathized in your build. Cinder song also doesn't look good unless you are in fireball, and even then it's probably worse than Firestarter's Torch. And if you want to be building hydra, I don't think most of the rest of your build is very conductive to it

coral thorn
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so my build's complete shit. got it

tender ore
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can we league start lightning blast runemaster or is that more of an endgame thing?

weary hamlet
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weary hamlet
grim ferry
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Soo how much dmg does runemaster lose after the frostwall patch?

coral thorn
# weary hamlet I mean.. no but yes. You need to refine it a bit

the build i was trying for was an ignite fire spread build using hydra. runebolt is there to setup the runes. flame shield is autocast defense, god is used to drop fast dot stacks and vo was being built for a boss kill. throw it out and have it move slowly and do huge dmg. this build used to not have vo but i didnt really know what else to use so i decided to throw it in there

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the amulet is there so i can see if it'll work with any of my skills. i didnt think they'd be able to duplicate god, but i was hoping vo, runebolt, or hydra's could trigger it. it's new tech and we dont knwo what it will or wont do yet

weary hamlet
# coral thorn the amulet is there so i can see if it'll work with any of my skills. i didnt th...

they should be able to duplicate glyph but you are casting it fairly infrequently so that these copies will be way too swingy and miss a lot when clearing trash or against mobile bosses. Also your glyph is missing a lot of multipliers from runes/invo, but if you do spec into them then your recasts will not have that (as your runes will be consumed by the primary cast of glyph) so that's less efficient. Also glyph has very good clear by itself - you don't need ignite spread to enable that.

coral thorn
weary hamlet
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Sure, I'm just saying that you got it wrong (most likely) but that still doesn't make glyph a great skill to combo with the amulet

coral thorn
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i literally never said it did

weary hamlet
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Also it will be fun if even with the Fan the inferno allocated it will not benefit from the extra ignite chance on replicate

coral thorn
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yeah it was more me just looking at normal casts not the recast for the amulet. the amulet is literally the newest thing added to this build. i've been trying to refine it for a while. never really get to the point i want to. recently added vo as a boss kill tool, but when throwing it in the planner added the boots and amulet

weary hamlet
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I just don't think that hydra is a great choice for ignite damage to begin with, it't not terrible but something like fireball, glyph or VO should just generate more and better stacks of ignite. Also consider adding Enchant weapon for Conflagrate to pop the ignites, it's a free 200% more damage multiplier for your ignite damage

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or heck even black hole

coral thorn
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black hole was one i thought of a while back. that was before i added vo

weary hamlet
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for VO you also want to maximize the multipliers and extra hits, most notably you aren't taking all the nodes improving explosive ground frequency and that's the biggest part of its ailment application

coral thorn
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knew i was forgetting something

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like i maxed the orb dmg node because i felt like i was forgetting something on the planner and just went screw it

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but the 2 points are the ones i usually put in frequency

merry echo
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Anyone know how long Glyph of Dominion last?

weary hamlet
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3s + however much you spec into via its tree

merry echo
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Yah was the base i needed 🙂 So thx

olive violet
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Any sorc/runemaster build that can kinda compete with voidknight/ballista falc/bearmaster this league? Both in how fast they farm and at least do decently fast on uber abb and not spend 4+ minutes on it.

sour trellis
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MG or COF , I’ll be going MG to start season

weary hamlet
bitter lava
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This is it. The season where I don't play mage.

junior coral
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wait they removed snap shotting? doesn't this kill the annooying Tpose build

junior coral
tender ore
junior coral
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and i play MG

bitter lava
weary hamlet
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that's more or less it

tender ore
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🗿

junior coral
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and i saw someone post ptr video even with 2x dmg on lightning due to new Ring, it still was relatively slow

weary hamlet
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yeah it's more the case of mage builds doing twice as much damage due to new items while everybody else is doing 10x more damage

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just progressively getting more and more power crept

junior coral
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unnerf RM

weary hamlet
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they need to fix it, not just boost its numbers

junior coral
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when are servers up

weary hamlet
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they sold it as an evoker class and it plays nothing remotely close to that

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just pick one combination, turn your brain off and spam it

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riveting

fresh adder
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hey swede here, i'd love to play with someone on launch even if not swedish just tryna keep the servers close

zinc pewter
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do u guys think the Ligghtning blast Rune master will be cheap to build in MG?

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i can see necros wanting to use the laddle and uhkeiros

bitter lava
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Do you think SB or Sorc is going to be good this season?

mortal oxide
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no.

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sorc will not be good this season

weary hamlet
junior coral
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so a lot on AH lp2-3

gleaming jetty
mortal oxide
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MG is easiest if you wanna swap builds quickly after the game ramps up some

olive violet
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I was considering abom until i realized all the pre casting shit and keeping a buff up every 4s etc

weary hamlet
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didnt they cut down on that kind of thing drastically?

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also the shades can be talented to last indefinitely right?

junior coral
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only annoying part about MG are like lp3 of god tier meta builds and LP RR.

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so for mage probably only getting one LP RR for that one good build this season

nimble shoal
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Yeah, you should be able to run abom just fine without hassle, and very well with just a lil skill swapping on relog

twilit hazel
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any viable uberroth mage builds this season beside lightning blast?

left hill
weary hamlet
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the bigger question is now the recast mechanic works with it, spread seems to have less potential to be bugged, and is more straightforward

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I'm optimistic about it but it will definitely not be my first build to try

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also remains to be seen which skill ends up being the best with it, probably VO or fireball

left hill
left hill
weary hamlet
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ehhhhhh welll....

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same goes for black hole although it's a lot more certain that it doesn't interact based on the wording

left hill
weary hamlet
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increased ignite frequency based on your ignite chance

left hill
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appreciate the weird passive aggressive attempt to gotcha though

weary hamlet
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I'm just saying that there are plenty questions about its mechanics that werent answered

clever ledge
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no fix on jagged veil?

left hill
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You can just say that then instead of doing the weird passive aggressive thing.

Anyway, just looked up Fan the Inferno. My understanding from the wording is, it does, but also if you're already stacking Ignite chance, because of the way frequency works (and frame limitations on the game engine) at a certain point the extra 300% probably won't make that much of a difference. I'm also not convinced that's the best Ignite applicator. Even at like 1200% Ignite Chance, you're doing ~26 triggers per second, 3 stacks per trigger, for 78 stacks per second, where something like Frost Claw can do thousands per second with the same chance.

nocturne hamlet
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Some spalleblade for this S3 ? 😄

lucid hedge
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mage have any changes in this s3?... is that any point playing mage if s2 also play mage?

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i has been playing mage in s1 and s2

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but i dont see much changes in this season... any reason to replay again?

cobalt abyss
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I'm planning to run hydrahedron as a starter this league? I've played it in season 1. Is it still pretty viable?

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I don't know if I can trust maxroll

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maybe someone played it in s2

meager fable
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Hey so like is it worth playing mage? U started almost end last season and.played rogue and i did a tiny bit offline mage yesterday

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But idk what to play

lost ridge
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any chance on making a flame rush build work?

weary hornet
neon bobcat
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I was looking at being able to dual wield flat lightning damage sceptre t7 slam on culvinars with oh transcriber's with t7 slammed spell damage using the set ring to give me the villata's set bonus on my static->lightning blast / enchant weapon->zap autobomber

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-hella- flat stacking

real crater
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Cant even take the item

normal hazel
dusky meadow
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did spellblade get anything new this patch

static fulcrum
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is it good to go spell blade guys ? am newbie

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the lightning thing

waxen sigil
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Play whatever and have fun doesn’t matter you’re a noob

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Don’t let someone else tell you how to play or what’s good, it’s not a competitive game and you can respec

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They don’t know what’s good anyway

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99% of them

static fulcrum
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okay thanks but i just do not need to stuck forever you due to the lack of my time

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do you think runemaster lightning is viable to clear game ?

waxen sigil
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No

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I don’t think a noob with limited time and understanding will clear everything in the game on Runemaster.

static fulcrum
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alright thanks

molten cobalt
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there is no new endgame content

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the rifts don't count, that is seasonal content, not endgame content

nimble shoal
#

There is no seasonal content

molten cobalt
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call it theme content then?

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either way its just more of the same

median sphinx
#

is there a way for Runemaster to cast an Invokation apart from using Runic Invokation or Flame Rush with Epilogue node?

static fulcrum
#

can someone send a mage leveling guide will try to play it anyways

molten cobalt
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for lvling guides maxroll is just fine

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for endgame maxroll is not fine

trim elk
#

Hey guys. Mages rely on one of FrozenSentinels builds to do some damage in s3?

static fulcrum
#

but may someone please give me loot filter for leveling ?

left hill
halcyon vigil
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why am i summoning random target dummies

oblique fossil
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Unique item

lucid hedge
#

mage benefit way lesser than other classes in this season probably because it is the only class that dont have summons or companions

small rover
waxen sigil
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im a bit of a mage fan

stuck fable
#

Well I'm a bit of a mage myself

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Aren't we above Dafoe memes now

left hill
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In fact,

stuck fable
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well played good sir

bitter lava
#

This is the season I said I would not start as a Mage. I'm tired of the devs not giving my man love, his power scaling lackluster, other classes stronger and decided to play the others first so I can feel real end game pro level arpg power. That is what I said.

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.....I'm about a level away from getting Glacier and the fast grind can begin.

molten cobalt
half pollen
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Mage just got its strongest build hotfixed kappa

trim anchor
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people are crazy

weary hamlet
weary hamlet
half pollen
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Aspirant arrival got fixed

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Which means brand builds got nerfed hard

harsh abyss
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oh, heh

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That always seemed like a bug

glossy quarry
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But we still have

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Lightning blast

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With vilatra

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Giga damage incoming

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Double dip spell Lightning damage per intelligence

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Will get nerfed for sure next cycle

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Clear is mid to best but

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Boss damage is insane

quasi coral
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so anylighting spells get double damage effect from int ?

glossy quarry
#

Correct

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As long as u get the set ring

quasi coral
#

whee well time to make me th ZAP lighting dis build ,,,

half pollen
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Vilatra got nerfed hard recently though

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Its only 1 damage per 2 int

glossy quarry
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Still good

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I mean it’s an add to the build

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Before, you could not go spoon and vilatra

quasi coral
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i gues i need to find the proper gear , as always ?

harsh abyss
quasi coral
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yeah teh walk and then auto shoot lightings is always good ,, was doing semi well as beastmaster , but the new beast keeps ignoring my pets and keeps killing me , so glad i am not HC

still jewel
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I kinda want to try mage this season

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Haven't touch that class at all

left hill
harsh abyss
dreamy zinc
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How is harvest lich mage compared to beastmaster or falconer rogue?

quasi coral
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huh thats a thing ? havent looked much at manastrike ,, didnt know that was an option

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i am more a disintegrade. elemantal nova on spot , caster , will look in mana strike ,or are the triggers items based ?

weary hamlet
quasi coral
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so is it skill based , or item based , in wich case i got a LONG wat to go probly unless the RNG gods are with me

weary hamlet
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both

quasi coral
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i asume uniques ?

weary hamlet
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you pick up things that trigger off mana strike like the lighning node, spark charges, frost claw triggers on melee, use static either to discharge directly or to cast more LB, etc

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then you use dagorath's claw or essence weaver

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for more procs

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frost claw can in turn trigger ele nova or something

quasi coral
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atm am taking a small break , the net crashed for me when i was in my 1st mage new event , so not happy , will look into it after my lunch ,

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aslog the ele nova triggers on the spot where frost claw triggers it should be fine

weary hamlet
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if you run static for discharge you should also pick up the smite belt for more triggers

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cause it can be a challenge to hit 200 stacks within 3 sec otherwise

quasi coral
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so its indeed rng drops and hope it shows up on nemesis

weary hamlet
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the nerf is whatever

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(for this build)

quasi coral
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soon i need to make the call , what mastery to take ,

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i just know there mage idols what provide double bonus effects if mana is at certain levels

weary hamlet
#

those breakpoints are very easy to hit either for sorc or rm

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sb usually doesn't stack mana

quasi coral
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yeah i know sorc adds 50 raw ,.

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oh ,, mana strike with starguide and mana spark , thats on Hit location aswell just like ele nova

quasi coral
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oops never realy used mana strike , it returns said mana for every target hit , not for every strike ,

wheat ravine
#

How's the mage dot builds looking this season? (for low/medium corruption)

scarlet island
#

Does the shatter strike recast from whiteout node unable to proc ice claws?

nimble shoal
stoic sorrel
silk pewterBOT
#
Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Mage (22) / Sorcerer (70) / Spellblade (5) / Runemaster (16)

General:

▸ Health: 1,755, Regen: 29.92/s
▸ Mana: 612.43, Regen: 18.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 357%, Regen: 158/s
▸ Attributes: 10 Str / 10 Dex / 145 Int / 10 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 176% / 130% / 114% / 100% / 152% / 106% / 158%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 49%, Threshold: 484
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (54)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 29% (1,359)

wheat ravine
#

Is there any 'long ranged' ice build? Glacier seems quite short range (with good aoe clear, that is).

sour panther
#

anyone knows if jagged veil passive got bugfixed?

weary hamlet
stuck fable
#

White claw always good

teal wren
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any mage build suggestions please

weary hamlet
austere hedge
left hill
#

So apparently Wildfire Embers only spreads around half of the Ignite stacks each second. And a pretty small radius (but can at least spread to more than 1 other enemy at once it seems). 😞 Saw someone post up a video of it in action.

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Also the spread seems kind of weird where it seems to only flow 'one way' through a chain of enemies. Which makes some sense to avoid it going exponential but also introduces a weird minigame of wanting to arrange enemies specific ways so it spreads the way you want it to to do the most damage to a preferred target, 2nd most to another, etc.

harsh abyss
#

TBH the spreading is the least important part of it, clear is usually no problem

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The embers and copying spells is definitely the more valuable aspect

left hill
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I disagree, but I'm looking at it from the perspective of comboing it with single-target skills.

harsh abyss
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Fair

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I kind of assumed the proliferation would be too small AOE to be meaningful, that's what Spreading Flames is for

keen meteor
#

I feel like stuff would just randomly take twice as long to die

left hill
stoic sorrel
silk pewterBOT
#
Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Mage (22) / Sorcerer (70) / Spellblade (5) / Runemaster (16)

General:

▸ Health: 1,755, Regen: 29.92/s
▸ Mana: 612.43, Regen: 18.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 357%, Regen: 158/s
▸ Attributes: 10 Str / 10 Dex / 145 Int / 10 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 176% / 130% / 114% / 100% / 152% / 106% / 158%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 49%, Threshold: 484
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (54)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 29% (1,359)

stoic sorrel
#

okay nwm i checked showcase with Wildfire Embers gonna redo my build from scratch T_T

unborn ravine
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wanted yalls opinions while I make this build
The goal/gimmick for this build is using runic invocation for our frenzy (along with frost wall if we'd like) to proc flame reave and wildfire to spam it insanely fast for our ignites and lots of damage over time! Let me know what you think, and what all it could do better with, im still rather new to build crafting but thought this was a very fun idea to try (and flame aura going crazy as well)

silk pewterBOT
#
Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Spellblade (36) / Runemaster (57)

General:

▸ Health: 1,575, Regen: 36.52/s
▸ Mana: 162.51, Regen: 12.48/s
▸ Ward Retention: 266%, Regen: 40/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 15 Dex / 108 Int / 15 Att / 23 Vit
▸ Resistances: 143% / 21% / 45% / 18% / 18% / 41% / 41%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 51%, Threshold: 584
▸ Dodge Chance: 9% (269)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 18% (629)

past quest
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its sad that u cant use both t8 mod and new unique at the same time

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i would reroll just cos of

minor monolith
past quest
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well its not about fitting 1 unique in a build its that right now you pretty much run 3-4lp brown builds on every slot

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would be nice to force some exalted into build

minor monolith
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most classes end up with one spot where an exalted base is good enough to warrant using, better bases for the classes that dont do this is probably a better way to do this

wheat ravine
#

How do people find the runemaster invocation mechanic now?

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Less clunky, more useable?

#

Was hoping it was more fun and useable now...debating what to play while downloading the patch!

stone jolt
#

Anyone can tell me why my runic invocation is not proccing when i have 3 runes? It works properly with 2 runes

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when i use it with 3 runes its just "no rune" invocation

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Yday it was working properly

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Found issue, was using gordiuan prism like an idiot

celest notch
#

Can someone help me with temporal sanctum lvl 3 ?

latent steeple
#

hey guys im lvl 60 now and just finished first mono. playing fireball right now and wanted to play the meta lightning blast build but i cant get enigma! do you guys think i'd be okay to just switch over now without it?

harsh abyss
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No. You need enigma for the lightning blast build because it makes your spark charges do significant damage.

latent steeple
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dammit ok thank u sir

harsh abyss
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If you're CoF you can target farm it pretty easily with catalyst prophecies though

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it's not super uncommon

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And if you're MG you can just buy it

latent steeple
#

ok ty im on hardcore so im scared but ill just farm the lower lvl monos til i get it xD

harsh abyss
#

Ah yeah, mage on hardcore is definitely spooky

sour panther
#

did you make endgame harder? I kinda cant remember getting os by non crit 3k hits by normal mobs at 100 cor xd

glossy quarry
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like

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giga tank

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and be ranged

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with the armor that grants more armor to shocked enemies

harsh abyss
#

Yeah, Static Shell is really good

fair imp
#

is there any s tier mage build?

weary wagon
#

do mages need boots like these?

minor monolith
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they are a really good base, depends on if you can get the rest of the reduced bonus from crit elsewhere

slim cargo
#

Hi folks, does anyone know if a Harbinger of stars Sorc build is possible in this day and age? All I see from the build is a few seasons old and I don't know if any of the updates broke it

left hill
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Last season update changed a bunch of meteor nodes that dropped extra meteors to only work on Direct Cast, so Harbinger doesn't work with those nodes anymore.

slim cargo
#

damn that sounds unfortunate... though i guess you could spec into the shrapnell side of the tree instead? idk

molten vessel
#

Hello, Why i can't respec my masteries?

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i can just respe passive

molten vessel
#

Ok i find, In french we just don't have the line

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xd

slim cargo
#

lmaooo that might be worth reporting as a bug

glossy quarry
#

LMAO

oblique merlin
#

If I wanted to play selfcast elemental nova

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Is there a way to know which element I'd want?

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honestly I wish all 3 could be cast simultaneously

harsh abyss
#

They can, actually! There's a helmet that turns it back into tri-element

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Selfcast nova isn't going to be very strong for bosses, but it can be fine for clearing the screen

oblique merlin
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I guess I can just use meteor for bosses

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thank you, I didn't knew about the helmet

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i'll look into it

humble hawk
#

Okay... Am I doing something wrong with Runic Invocation? I'm trying get Cold/Fire/Cold for the shield. I have Frost Wall, but it's converted to Fire damage so I don't know if that changes it's tags, then Flame Shield, then Runebolt which has Cold as it's only damage tag. However, my runes are always Fire/Cold/Fire.

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Oh, the Flame Shield is converted to Cold as well.

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I figured it out. Nevermind. Sorry for being dumb.

harsh abyss
#

Hey, at least you figured it out 👍 Sometimes you just have to send the message for the reasoning to happen.

humble hawk
#

I did not have them in the correct order on my bars... Because I am SMORT.

cobalt yacht
#

is the new ignite neck any good?

lucid hedge
#

the frost wall snapshot bug still existed? or is it fixed?

left hill
#

The Res->Ignite is pretty good ofc, but the spread is lackluster. The wisps are good for bosses but not really for mapping since you'll be moving too much for their radius

static fulcrum
#

hi guys am lvl 60 may playing shatter strike i want to play LB i am on early mono may i know when i switch ?

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like what essential item to get ?

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i am on market thing league

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sorry for bad naming am newbie to the game

crude minnow
#

i play circle so i dont know what you can trade

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but if you have enigma + a dragonhorn wand with even remotely decent affixes you can switch to LB

weary wagon
#

i cant search this in trade to see what its worth anyone know

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the bottom affix doesnt show up

static fulcrum
wispy rune
#

anyoen got updated shatterstrike planner? interested whats changed/what peple are doing

cunning helm
#

instead i can show you what just playing flame reave looks like

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not finished yet haven't found a rune of havoc in 2 decades to build tankiness at all D:

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using this currently

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and need to get rid of the amulet, i was using truesight glass before it gets some big damage buffs

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can make a planner if anyone interested

violet wharf
#

When u fuse some T8 stat to another unique, it that unique change to promordial too or not?
Asking cause u only can set 1 primordial on build :_D

cunning helm
#

t8s are in sealed slot

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sorry

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they are ment to be utilised as 6 affix exalted items

violet wharf
#

As a 6th affix only on exalted? Hmmmm okey got it

cunning helm
#

it works as if you had a sealed slot already used

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it puts it into another sealed slot

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this way you can make a LP6 merophage :D

weary hamlet
hot heath
#

would anyone mind answering some questions about crafting the vilatria helm for LB runemaster? I only have 1 vilatria helm to shatter so I dont want to mess it up

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not sure if the set is a prefix or a suffix but can I just seal the T1 health on this and craft the set on?

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or ive heard you can upgrade set affixes to t5+, is that something that applies here?

neon bobcat
#

if you've only got one helm to shatter, i wouldn't

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just use the helm itself

crude minnow
#

if you have some spare havoc i'd probably attempt that, it's a really big upgrade to get t7 lightning blast + set bonus over just wearing the set helm

hot heath
#

im farming some set prophecies rn, is the set affixes upgradeable or is it just one tier?

crude minnow
#

it's upgradeable but the helm affix is kind of bad

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in an ideal world you seal the set affix

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But can't do that on that helm unless you wanna play the lottery and try to rune of removal the mana

hot heath
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yeah i see, good to know

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ill tinker around with some crafts, i have extra helms this is just one that had +4 LB

crude minnow
#

it's not a bad affix tho, so not being able to seal it is fine, but int is just super strong on LB

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this one took so much effort already lol, it's really hard to get the set affix sealed and int on it

hot heath
#

haha yeah i was looking at the item and thinking about how hard it would be to get a good one

#

i wish they adjusted FP in some way

#

maybe add a scroll of restoration or just not have such a huge range on FP cost

crude minnow
#

I think they probably will over time, each season adds a little bit more crafting stuff, last season was pretty big with the 2 new runes

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atm ye, you can brick super quick if you hit like a double -20FP lol

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like here XD

neon bobcat
#

mmmmm int

crisp plover
crude minnow
#

and then i was out of FP 😄

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there is some sick helms possible, but it's so hard to get lol

  • need 2 t7s on it
  • open prefix, or rune of removal to get open prefix
  • craft set
  • seal set
  • craft int
  • rune of havoc to t7 int + t7 lightning blast
crisp plover
#

Yeah i got alot of farming to do it seems

hot heath
#

i hope they lean into the idea of completely deterministic crafting with enough grinding

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would probably keep me engaged longer

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i was playing this ARPG called slormancer not too long ago and you could 100% perfect a character with enough grinding

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as it stands I think I just tap out after getting a full set of 2LP gear in COF

noble reef
#

Slormancer is good

crisp plover
#

I just slammed my 1st 2lp of the season and missed the 2nd stat

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Feels bad

crude minnow
merry echo
#

Do flat spell damage affect the Runemasters 3 "Brand" types?

hot heath
#

I usually grind for about a week and then the upgrades seem unachievable

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or at least the payoff for getting them vs likelihood just becomes crazy skewed and i give up;

crude minnow
#

I like this current version of LB because it has quite a few big step ups you can achieve so progress feels really good for quite a long while

hot heath
#

yeah I can see that

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i got so owned in RNG first day or two

crude minnow
#

some of the builds i played last season kind of get all of their items very quickly and immediately turn into "just get more LP"

hot heath
#

didnt get my first ladle/twisted heart until lvl 93 or so

crude minnow
#

which is true for LB as well ofc to an extent, but you do also go through a couple of swaps along the way

hot heath
#

and I was chain farming cemetary with the mage weaver nodes

crude minnow
#

dude my ladle took FOREVER, i didnt get a single one after farming mages for hours

crisp plover
hot heath
#

the power spike was crazy at least

crude minnow
#

then i went with a friend into the mage woven echo and we got SIX in the single echo

hot heath
#

went from snoozefesting in 100-200c to 500 insta

crude minnow
#

ye the ladle upgrade is big

hot heath
#

yeah my friend is playing LB as well and got to leech off my rune prison complex as soon as they swapped off shatter strike

crude minnow
#

atm im kind of regretting using nihilis lol

crisp plover
#

Im using a build from frozen sentinel or something

static fulcrum
#

guys i can not swap to lb i can not find any enigma at all :" any tips ? am newbie i am lvl 72 now

crude minnow
#

-13% current ward each evade.... and i kinda spam evade, losing like 1k-1.5k ward per evade is brutal lol

crisp plover
#

U guys sound better geared than me

crude minnow
static fulcrum
wispy rune
#

then rng 🤷‍♂️

crude minnow
crisp plover
#

Is the 2 mono lenses still meta?

hot heath
#

bit sad about what they did to glyph of envy but

crisp plover
#

Nihilis rolls so bad

hot heath
#

i suppose temporal keys will do for now

crisp plover
#

Tomorrow will try get some 1lp gear and the t7s to match

crude minnow
#

i think i did 300c -> 1k c in like 2 hours starting on only a few keys

crude minnow
#

but i spam evade, i need to stop that 😄

crisp plover
#

Do we need cast runebolt to keep the damage buff?

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Cause my mate says no

static fulcrum
#

i found one now is it worth 100k ? with 2 lp ? the enigma ?

static fulcrum
crude minnow
crude minnow
static fulcrum
crude minnow
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sure xD

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no need to ask to ask 😄

static fulcrum
#

those are all i have for the build is this enough to swap even if my wand has no crit multiplier ?

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i just bought this enigma 115k bec it has 217% increasde charge explistion area

crude minnow
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yes that's more than fine

crisp plover
#

I swapped with less tbh

crude minnow
#

i swapped with an enigma and a dream lol

static fulcrum
#

am totally newbie first time to mage i am worried about other stuff the rare items idk what stats i should look for

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i will go now respec my skill points

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then try to figure out other items

crisp plover
crude minnow
#

tbf it was a bit slow for a while after swapping

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but it was also slow before swapping xD

static fulcrum
#

am using this bec i can not find the one on the build guide

crude minnow
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yep that's great early amulet

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frankly, late amulet too

static fulcrum
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okay thanks i will swap and tell you what happens xD

crude minnow
#

it's just good all around

cloud dew
#

the minion is so annoying though

static fulcrum
#

yeah winions

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i have another general problem idk which is good unique to sell :"

crisp plover
#

Thats why i play cof

static fulcrum
#

where do i respec m y points to swap and try xDDDDDDD

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found the guy at land of time thanks

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is this really TRUE ? will take all my gold 😮 ?

crude minnow
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if you're not runemaster already yes

merry echo
#

Anyone know if flat spell damage affect the Runemasters 3 "Brand" types?

static fulcrum
crude minnow
static fulcrum
#

thanks guys for helping me out

crude minnow
#

i cant link to servers in here though, but it's called the sanctum market

tender ore
crude minnow
#

can do all of the harbingers and bosses on relatively low corruption

tender ore
#

cool, ima try that when I'm strong enough

crude minnow
#

also less than 30 bosses 😄 more like 10 lol, you just need like 50 gazes to do reset to 1kc

static fulcrum
#

how here the set of the ring is completed despite head and ring being different sets ?

minor monolith
#

read the other ring

weary hamlet
#

reading the item explains the item

static fulcrum
#

this or this guys meh this is my 3rd blessing

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i would appreciate if someone knows which one is better

neon bobcat
#

it depends what your build is doing

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if you don't have much pen the shred is probably better

static fulcrum
#

okay thanks yeah i am new no shred or something yet testing this build

neon bobcat
#

it likely won't help too much unless you have a lot of hits/cast/attack speed

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so if you find you're not causing enough stacks to show up, you can swap the blessing to just damage instead, but as your build progresses it'll likely be better on shred

static fulcrum
#

its okay i just chose it it may help

weary hamlet
#

lol from reddit:

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Ignite spread range is extremely small and does not refresh the duration of dot, leading to nearly no spreading through a pack.
Wisps last ~3 seconds and as such very rarely cast a spell
Wisp cast spells are not modified by your skill tree

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there goes at least half of my motivation to try mage in this season

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meanwhile mike told us that he checked personally and the wisp duration was "around 8 sec"

harsh abyss
#

With only one wisp able to be created per second, and the amount you're moving around, they should last like 20 seconds

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(for it to be as strong as other primals)

cloud dew
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8 seconds would be fine

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3 seconds def not enough

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most primordial uniques don't offer a 35% dmg boost which is what wisps alone would offer at 8 seconds duration

harsh abyss
#

Yeah, but most primordials aren't vying for the amulet slot, which is crazy valuable becuse of Nihilis

cloud dew
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really depends on your build

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some builds can't use +2 all skills

weary hamlet
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but shitty ignite spread mechanics and wisp duration don't sound bugged

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but clear and intentional design choices

cloud dew
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should be a bug cause alt text says it counts as you using it

harsh abyss
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Oh yeah, that's gotta be a bug. If it's not, the amulet is totally useless

cloud dew
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not totally useless but certainly not worth a prim slot

harsh abyss
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I think the only reason the AOE isn't larger is because they may not have the tech to stop it from spreading to things that it's already spread from. They'd have to track it per ignite, which seems... messy

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And very performance heavy

cloud dew
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good point

harsh abyss
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Yeah, if you got enough ignite duration, it would be nutty.

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A cool alternate way to do it would be to make it so you apply ignites also apply to yourself, and then ignites spread from YOU in a large radius

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Then it'd have synergy with Immolators

weary hamlet
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or one spread TO target for that matter

harsh abyss
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Yeah but then the 1 second spread sucks

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Maybe if it also only spread from the target with the largest number of ignites when you hit it on a slightly longer cooldown? Thats a lot of conditions

tribal veldt
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I assume it's from one of the dev streams so maybe no easy clip of it exists

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I'm pretty emotionally invested because like many others this item was a focal point for me this season lol

weary hamlet
tribal veldt
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couldn't find it at a glance so I'll keep looking

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discord search is a piece of crap >:[

weary hamlet
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worse than reddit search somehow

tribal veldt
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was it asked by you or someone you remember perhaps

fair imp
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Why do people add runebolt to lightning blast build?

left hill
left hill
# cloud dew 8 seconds would be fine

Agreed. If the spread wasn't junk, 8s wisps would be fine (if they used specialization). Spread would be for clearing, wisps for bossing basically

left hill
harsh abyss
tribal veldt
harsh abyss
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Ooo what if wisp duration was increased by ignite duration

tribal veldt
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that'd be cute, and a win for rogues because kelthan's blasting agent exists :D

weary hamlet
tribal veldt
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not refreshing the duration makes sense because it should be able to pass back and forth, but not spreading all stacks is quite baffling

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maybe bug, maybe last-minute balance change that didn't get updated in text, either way it's dumb that it ended up this way

weary hamlet
tribal veldt
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agree

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having it work as written on the item would already be a big win lol

crude minnow
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I was excited for the amulet, was doubting between mage or rogue start (was gonna go ignite heartseeker), glad I didn't go that lol

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Hopefully it gets fixed (assuming it's bugged) and I can try it then

tribal veldt
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I'm just gonna stay my course, and if the amulet doesn't get fixed in a timely fashion re-download a certain game that's updating in a week omegalul

left hill
weary hamlet
minor monolith
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I do hope they fix the bugs but I am still at least liking the health and the ignite on hit parts for my build

weary hamlet
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also just seeing their fixes makes it clear that they actually reconsidered some of their stances on how they want to design their game, while LE devs keep making the same mistakes for years upon years with no recognition of the problem

minor monolith
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Playing Vorb sorcerer ignite

harsh abyss
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I fully planned to play both games, I always pick up LE a few random times per season because I like cooking builds

tribal veldt
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I've been very negative about it so far, but 0.3 looks like leaps and bounds in the right direction

harsh abyss
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I'm glad they're not digging their heels in about things like the weapon swapping and stuff. I'm excited to try it just for the QOL that they talked about where "if we want you to use acutal multiple skills, we have to allow you to make multiple skills useful"

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Like now you could have a grenade crossbow and a bolt crossbow and actually use both of them and that's awesome

night cedar
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Does this season feel a bit lack luster?

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Some of the primal uniques are not very good

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And the additional content isn’t super present

weary hamlet
languid ridge
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How's runemaster mage these days?

weary hamlet
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some of its worst builds were marginally improved by direct fixes, some other builds got bumped by new items, other than that same as previous patch

languid ridge
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Some day runemaster will be playable like dota 2 invoker and I cannot wait for that day

stone rapids
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it did get a bugfix which hurt builds using that bug a fair bit, the bug was super op

stone rapids
languid ridge
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yeee that's that I would like too but alas

static fulcrum
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any weaver tree can someone suggest for LB build ? i am MG faction

languid ridge
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I was really surprised it wasn't this way by default, when runemaster first came out I was sure they'd make using many different spells like the main default go to build 🙁

weary hamlet
stone rapids
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yeah, in general there’s a very high incentive to do one thing and have everything else support that, but if there’s any class that should be enabled to go against that grain, surely it should be runemaster

languid ridge
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design an ability that changes depending on combinations of spells you cast before
make it so you only ever use 1 combination

bruh

stone rapids
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there needs to be more “x effect for each invocation used that is different from the previous” type stuff available, what there currently is ain’t worth giving up immutable order at all

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unfortunately immutable order + fundamental criterion means runemaster often ironically has some of the most binary gameplay and buildcraft

night cedar
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I hope next patch is skill sigils and more uber bosses or other things to do besides random event to kill an elite(nemesis, hunt, mage) in a mono

weary hamlet
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I hope next patch is updates to existing systems, they need to be more interconnedted with each other and add something more than "spawn mini boss"

night cedar
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Yeah though I think it’s probably an expansion of existing systems

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We just need options for other stuff that isn’t do monolith and monolith accessories

harsh abyss
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Make dungeons good

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Make them a roguelike mode where you choose to go deeper or accept rewards and they build up further and further

tribal veldt
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the last thing I want is dungeons to take more time, just make them better, most of their rewards haven't aged well at all

harsh abyss
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The only one people really do is Julra for obvious reasons

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And the portal keys mean you basically never do the actual dungeon

tribal veldt
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and even when we run the dungeon we just sprint past everything, click whatever door we meet first because the non-unique rewards don't matter

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juicing those up should be easy

weary hamlet
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and arbor let's not even get started on that one

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at least I can get all the boots I want from the weaver node that spawns them in monos

harsh abyss
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Yeah that's what I mean, they gotta rebuild them from the ground up

uncut zealot
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how does spark charge feel this szn

harsh abyss
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Spark Charge Vilatria Lightning Blast is probably one of the top mage builds this season

uncut zealot
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yeah

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rogue was a bust for me

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wildfire is doodoo

harsh abyss
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We'll see what wildfire looks like once it gets bug fixed

uncut zealot
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yyeah

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i might swap to lightning blast tho

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spark charges do aoe dmgye?

stone rapids
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ironically the best use case of wildfire is likely melee cinder strike, but then again, you’re playing melee cinder strike

stone rapids
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not super big though

harsh abyss
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I've considered a cinder strike Jasper's build before

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Melee cinder strike just doesn't feel good though

uncut zealot
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yeah..

harsh abyss
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And I don't like making a build that relies on a 70+ unique to even function

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I get bored before I even get to equip it

stone rapids
harsh abyss
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Is it... 8+ attacks per second beastmaster?

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That's what I was looking at this season

stone rapids
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no, it’s bleed shield rush as a paladin

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i have a video on it but i can also send the planner

harsh abyss
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I can guess what general idea is, how fast can it stack the jaspers stacks?

stone rapids
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you can get to about 70 stacks once you’re fully ramped

harsh abyss
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Yeah that's pretty good

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The BM build I was looking at should theoretically get to 130 stacks, but LEtools says it caps at 100

stone rapids
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i believe it does but i’m not positive, the biggest limiter on jasper’s is the fact you can’t slam attack speed, which lends itself to things that don’t need the attack speed like shield rush

tribal veldt
stone rapids
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ruby fang can theoretically triple your fire res scaling but i’m not sure it’s worth over a jasper’s

tribal veldt
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I would indeed strongly recommend axe + shield over jasper's

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maybe eventually when we can slam attackspeed on staves, but not as it stands

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and rogue can actually cap block with an exalted shield which is pretty cool

weary hamlet
tribal veldt
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even so the simplest/most effective thing might be to dual wield two good statsticks, I just like having a shield whenever possible

noble reef
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I was asking myself... if i cast meteors with wildfire amulet on and meteors ignite stuff even if i'm on a crit build. Will those whisps cast meteors ?

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I could use only fire meteors for that so no vilatra

thorny bronze
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What are the most prominent builds that don’t really rely on specific gear?

wispy rune
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any shatterstrike build for new cycle? interested what ithers are running

weary hamlet
weary hamlet
thorny bronze
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What about for RUNEMASTER

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Sorry, autocorrect

cobalt surge
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was wondering if someone could take a look at my character, just swapped builds and it feels hopeless lmao

real flicker
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I wonder, should i even bother trying to swap to attunement? (hydrahedron focus build)

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(t3 int)

carmine lantern
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i can only use Woven enchanter on Class Specific Idols? It says I can use them on a weaver idol, but I cannot put my weaver idols in there

harsh abyss
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Just class idols

weary hamlet
weary hamlet
cobalt surge
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ok thanks

stone rapids
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if we’re talking cinder strike you might be right but i haven’t tested cinder strike because that would require me to use cinder strike

sour trellis
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Anyone beat uberoth with a mage yet this season

scarlet island
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Do nodes like this that gives flat melee damage not increase ice spike's damage?

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dont see the tooltip numbers changing

fiery belfry
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What skill does good single target damage in very early game? Im level 18 and struggling to do damage against champions, nemesis, and rift beasts.

sleek meteor
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is Mana Guide any good?

left hill
rich wadi
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HALP! I have not played since early access and I had a complicated build.
I do not want to copy someone's build from maxroll.
I want help w recreating the one I used before.
(My passive skills were reset)

stiff panther
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If you post your skills and gears people may be able to deduce what you were doing with it

rich wadi
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Okay thanks!

twin peak
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what build was it? or show ur gear if u don't remember

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do you still have a subclass or is that reset too

rich wadi
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It was a low life cold build

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Is that wep still good?

stiff panther
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Any other gear? That weapon is largely just for leveling

rich wadi
twin peak
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take a pic of ur whole inventory

stiff panther
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That'd be faster

rich wadi
twin peak
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only for purple items we'd need to see their stats

rich wadi
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ok

twin peak
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okay yeah a typical lowlife setup with cold res stacking

rich wadi
twin peak
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what do you need help with exactly? allocating class passives?

rich wadi
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yes

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I dont even remember how to play

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Had 410 hours in but it was so long ago

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Is this stuff even good?

twin peak
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it's probably worth looking into frost claw, a "new" skill which is generally used as the main one for cold based builds

cobalt surge
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i was watching a video of giga str mage and was wondering how the person keeps casting plasma orb with runic invocation so easily. like they are channeling focus and not getting lighting charges

rich wadi
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I only want to play my level 100 sorc though

twin peak
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nah, it's a cold-based spell

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you throw several projectiles that explode in an aoe where u aim

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and it helps generate more ward

rich wadi
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Which skill do u suggest I drop?

twin peak
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i personally ran ice barrage and frost claw. but you can try those two and glacier and see which one you like the least, and drop that one

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as for passives, it's not that difficult, but you'll have to decide if you want to be more tanky or more glass cannon-y

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and if you end up sticking with frost claw, cast speed is a big deal so you wanna prioritize that in passives that grant it

rich wadi
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Thanks, how about my purple gear and such it is okay still?

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I'm so lost

twin peak
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as a mage you can't go wrong with int, vit, health, resistances, cold damage, elemental/spell damage, cast speed and ward stuff like ward retention

rich wadi
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Do we have PVP yet?

twin peak
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your purps are fine, i wouldn't say they're incredible but they're serviceable

rich wadi
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ok thanks

twin peak
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with all the newer updates items can get really crazy, it's not difficult to get pretty much any unique with lp1 or 2 depending on the unique

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or if you run purples you want sealed affixes

twin peak
rich wadi
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Is there somewhere I can see list of sorc uniques and where to find them

twin peak
rich wadi
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uniques are best?

twin peak
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not necessarily

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i mean, an lp4 unique will almost always be bis unless you run sets, but you don't need to go that far

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in your case you have build enabling ones like your chest, boots and gloves, and then what i'd consider "good items" which is your wand, belt and ring. but at the point you're at, those last three are fairly lackluster compared to a well rolled item

cobalt surge
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how does someone automatically generate the correct runes for plasma orb everytime?

twin peak
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there's passives in the runic invocation skill that make it so you always get the same combination

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i assume that's what you mean

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it's based on the order of skills in the bar

rich wadi
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This is all that came up for mage, only 1 set piece?

twin peak
rich wadi
twin peak
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those are mage exclusive, meaning they give something for a specific mage skill. then there's just generic uniques that anyone can wear

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heart of uhkeiros is generally used to generate more ward, and a vial of volatile ice with LP could be nice as an off

rich wadi
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Thanks for the help, I'm starting to feel like I should just start over but I hate grinding

twin peak
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well, you could try a different class, or respect your current char fron the ground up. but trying to make a new build at max lvl is gonna feel bad cuz it'll take time before it fully comes online and you likely cna't do the level of the content you were at

rich wadi
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Rough

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Yeah I would prob need help

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Is there a way to tell what I was on content wise?

twin peak
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i'd look at your monoliths and their corruption

rich wadi
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Probably just need to start seasonal since I plan to stream it, and I'm sure nobody cares about legacy right?

twin peak
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couldn't tell you, I don't really watch LE streamers lmao

rich wadi
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I really hate seasonal grind

twin peak
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uh no if you go into the monolith itself, any of them, it should show you the corruption level

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some will be higher than others depending on how much you farmed them

rich wadi
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Hmm im not sure how to do that anymore

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I will poke around I guess

twin peak
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so you can play legacy with the items in your stash while still having all the new content

rich wadi
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Nice

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Yeah I'm starting to remember the story grind and I don't wanna do that again

twin peak
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it's really not that bad. I take several days to reach endgame in poe but in here i'm done in like 2 lol

rich wadi
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Is this what u mean?

twin peak
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there's also alternate progression routes where you go through the dungeons instead

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yeah, the 100's

rich wadi
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100 is good?

twin peak
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I mean, there's no "good" or "bad" really, it's just how much you've grinded each. being in empowered monos is the only important part

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i believe empowered is 100+

rich wadi
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I'm generally a try hard cuz I like PVP and want an edge

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I know there is no PVP

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But I think I still have to be a try hard

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So I want to be the best, if only I could remember how to play

twin peak
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well, i'd take it slow and get a feel for the game again. then you can decide what you wanna do.

rich wadi
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IDK if I'll ever get my passive skill tree done

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I could spend hours just looking at it

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and trying to figure out what's best for a build I don't remember much about

twin peak
rich wadi
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ok thanks

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I remember though, I like glass cannon

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So I want to max damage and forget everything else

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Think i need to respec already

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How to start over?

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right click far end to undo early choices?

scarlet island
scarlet island
rich wadi
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Thanks! Do I need mana bulwark w exsanguinous and last steps of living?

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I don't remember much about this build

twin peak
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if you're running out of ward and taking damage to HP you're gonna die regardless

rich wadi
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right so don't need

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Thanks

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Do I need more than 319% ward retention?

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I think i can get another 72% from inscribed instruments

mighty portal
wispy rune
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how do peeps usually survive the bleed build up with shatterstrike?

rancid oasis
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Mmmkay. first time doing a runemaster - I need one of you smarties to give me some guidance as i'm clearing normal mobs O.K. but as soon as i get up against a boss or soemthing beefy. it takes a bit lol

silk pewterBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Mage (24) / Runemaster (13)

General:

▸ Health: 515, Regen: 13.75/s
▸ Mana: 105.65, Regen: 9.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 42%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 16 Dex / 20 Int / 12 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 63% / 26% / 19% / 4% / 54% / 16% / 16%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 103
▸ Dodge Chance: 10% (83)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 24% (354)

rancid oasis
#

if its a gear thing (which i know my gear has issues) thats cool. but wanted to make sure my skills/passives are o.k.

obtuse notch
#

any mage enjoyers ?

static fulcrum
#

this one is good to follow right ? or i shall follow Binaq one

clever ledge
#

Can anyone tell me if jagged veil fixed now?

hollow totem
#

How is lightning blast and hydra runemaster?

native wadi
#

not seeing any sorc builds

hollow totem
#

Cause I'm torn between that and bladedancer rogue tbh.

austere jackal
#

ye

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250c someone mage want to farm duo?'

static fulcrum
#

can someone tell me the + 4 skill blast affix is class specific or helmet specific stat ?

austere jackal
static fulcrum
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for stuff like this

hollow totem
austere jackal
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survi big dps garbage at 250c

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but i still learn and testing

static fulcrum
# austere jackal

how can you get the crit multiplier can i share my stats with you am running same build

austere jackal
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first time someone want to play duo

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hmm how i get i play merchant guild i buy and craft

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idk all about the build im testing

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looking some for duo exp to 100

static fulcrum
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i am at corr 100 now with the build

austere jackal
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i have luck and sell some stuff and buy

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and drop some to my build with weaver tree

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i play shatter strike to 89lvl

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today swap

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my weaver tree 27/53 points

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lisen if you want play mage pls dont

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take a paladin strong and better to start

static fulcrum
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i am already lvl 81

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and spent all my money on build now

austere jackal
#

.... bad

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@static fulcrum priv

hot heath
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ive been very pleased starting mage

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as soon as you get the uniques for LB you easily blast 500-1k corr

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and shatter strike was nice for leveling

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it did feel squishy at times is the only knock

weary hamlet
#

leveling isnt the problem with mage, nonexistent variety of good builds is

indigo trellis
#

We have anz summon skill in mage_ or possibilitz to plaz summons_

cunning helm
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im so ready

#

fire melee dmg crit multi and fire pen would be ideal right?

full bluff
#

Seems like Vilatria set is the crutch that saves most builds for runemaster now. Tested a lot of skills and they manage ok with the extra damage from Vilatria. But the balance, power difference between skills is massive.

weary hamlet
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well of course - none of those problems had been meaningfully addressed in years

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shit was bad, nothing changed, shit is still bad

full bluff
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and more skills got bad with the nerfs over the years 🙂 I sometimes think the end goal is to have all skills being bad/mid

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in the name of balance

weary hamlet
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some skills are turbo busted in extremely obvious ways and others are left to rot in obscurity for years upon years cause their math sucks in an equally obvious way

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it's not that hard to add up all the more multipliers in each skill's tree and find out that they often arent even in the same galaxy

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same goes for the balance of individual nodes/trees/transformations within each skill