🧙┃mage

[restive rover]

clotho too funny

its just hard cause you're a shitty sentinel basically haha

[hybrid schooner]

interesting. i was thinking for a 2h setup using the lightening last 2h

[restive rover]

lightnign last?

[hybrid schooner]

then you can get access to the aegis

blast

[restive rover]

I'm also sad that flame reave is doo doo damage. where is fire nib 😦

[hybrid schooner]

i not in game idk whats its called but the chest would give you dr cause of the 2h weapon, and the lightening blast would be able to give to aegis

[restive rover]

battlemage's endeavor?

[hybrid schooner]

ya that one

[restive rover]

🙂

[hybrid schooner]

but youd also have to spec into blast as well

[restive rover]

right

[warped crow]

fair

[restive rover]

that actually looks fun and spellblade thematic

but... is that just a worse LB sorc?

[harsh abyss]

For reference, I did ~200k favor in amulet prophecies for it and got one

[warped crow]

its funny i got 2 red rings and 0 eyes

they were both shit tho

[harsh abyss]

Even a shit red ring is incredible

[warped crow]

no LP and then nemesis rolled trash

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, all mine have too, it sucks

[hybrid schooner]

i mean the lb would not be for damage at all

[warped crow]

i mean on the + side ... they both rolled max all res

[restive rover]

oh just to trigger aegis?

[hybrid schooner]

ye

[restive rover]

so its still a shatterstrike build but its triggering lightning aegis for the thickness, interesting

[hybrid schooner]

ya i may try it for funsies

[restive rover]

guessing you replace flame ward?

[hybrid schooner]

propbly

i guess you can still use it but unspecced

[wet cape]

For the line that talks about ailment conversion, is it subtractive of your total ignite chance rather than it being 100% of your total converted? I'd assume its subtractive because im still able to ignite while standing on my glyph, and my chance to ignite doesn't change in my stat sheet. But I can't really tell how this helmet works

Sorry meant to crop

[hybrid schooner]

@restive roverdoestn that chest also have like 40% health on it too. get t7 shatter, t7 health, dex or crit redux

[restive rover]

Yeah its fat

[restive rover]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/zayhne/character/dayhne

[hybrid schooner]

i bet i could get almost 5k health

[restive rover]

get some good DR and hits RR requirement

so I might be able to swap boots... mourningfrost time? 😄

but more flat dmg seems not necessary

[hybrid schooner]

nah i put them on man and i thought it would be huge with 130 dex. it was not

[restive rover]

What this actually is kind of missing is more attack speed

[hybrid schooner]

whats a t7 attacked speed roll on 2h?

[restive rover]

I dont know but I wish I had it 😄

[hybrid schooner]

gotta be at least 100 right

[restive rover]

I think its like 80

[wet cape]

96% top roll

[restive rover]

Oh 😮

[hybrid schooner]

k

[wet cape]

77 - 96% is the range for t7

[warped crow]

96%

[dire plaza]

Why is mage so much worse than all the other classes

What happened?

[hybrid schooner]

idk i think its becuase the passiv and skills trees need to be re worked after the ward and intel nerfs. anything related to int, ward retention, ward generation is just so much worse now.

it all has way less value

[restive rover]

ward sucks donkey 😦

[hybrid schooner]

which is a massive amount of nodes. the class was built around ward

[warped crow]

its because they gutted everything about mage

honestly

[warped crow]

just go raw mana instead owo

90% damage taken as mana owo

we need more of that throughout the sorc tree xD

we can already hit it without that but like ... it fits the theme sorc was going for way better than ward stacking throughh mana

[harsh abyss]

Mage also has some out of whack abilities. There are like 3 abilities that are way stronger than any other abilities that mage has. Like arguably the most powerful mage ability is a triggered Brand from the runemaster tree? What?

They need to buff up some of the core abilities and nerf Frost Claw a bit to balance out the power scaling, as well as improve some of the big damage abilities like Meteor and Static Orb in ways that don't totally break the game.

[warped crow]

nah

keep frostclaw where it is

buff everything else clloser to that

[harsh abyss]

And RI could use a look at a lot of the invocations to make them more viable. It's tough to build around most of them

[warped crow]

the problem is the tree sucks

like theres too much stuff the skill can do that the tree barely even covers like 5 of them

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, and everything is warped because of Immutable Order and the Runic Energy branch

[warped crow]

also its sad that theres no value in using different combos

you have to hard invest into 1

owo

and then your just playing a worse normal build

at least something like hydrahedron has a gimick to it uwu

[harsh abyss]

Yeah

And to trigger a lot of them reliably, you need immutable order or the idol that locks your rune order

Otherwise your cast speed ends up just being too fast to reliably get your rune combo right

[warped crow]

i mean

runebolt exists

you just set up your combo there and you never worry about screwing it up

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, but locking a huge chunk of RI behind using runebolt feels bad

[warped crow]

i mean you dont have to

[harsh abyss]

But mainly, lots of the skill trees not feeling great paired with ward being nerfed hard leaves mage in a tough spot

[warped crow]

its just there

[harsh abyss]

Probably not as bad as lich, but not great

[warped crow]

i wish runebolt wasnt ass as a main skill

[warped crow]

i mean its about as dependant on runebolt as spellblade is/was for firebrand

or sorc is/was for meteor regen

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, and I disagree with being reliant on a specific ability as a general concept

[warped crow]

like they are there and they are all really good
but there are ways to not use it

[warped crow]

so you shouldnt be using holy aura as a paladin?

owo

[harsh abyss]

You shouldn't NEED to use holy aura as a paladin

Which you don't, currently

Just like you shouldn't NEED to use Bear Form as a druid, which you don't

[warped crow]

you dont need to in the same way you dont need runebolt'

[harsh abyss]

(Arguably Paladin has some problems because Symbols of Hope feels mandatory but that's a different issue)

[warped crow]

just bring back old volatile reversal and it will be ok

[harsh abyss]

I'd just delete Holy Aura and make Symbols of Hope the core ability for paladins.

Holy Aura isn't an interesting skill to use

[warped crow]

nuuuuu dont yoink my free 40% res

[warped crow]

TO BE FAIR ... flameburst exists

i think symbol of hope is fine

i think old volatile reversal was fine because it focused on dots and not everything

and now we have shield throw for phys dmg

i mean some of them overlap sure but they all have a different thing they support now

but ye just saying that runemaster relying on runebolt isnt anything new lel

[glossy quarry]

sorcerer still the best for DR

mage is not bad tho

mana bulwark with mana stacking and on top of that ward, its nice

[solemn linden]

What’s dr

Still wondering if should respec to hydra or shatter

Or smt else

[glossy quarry]

damage reduction

[warped crow]

owo got one ... but no lp

[solemn linden]

Oh

[warped crow]

and it didnt roll lp from nemesis sadge

i hate the "kill seige golem" and "kill diamond matron" prophesies uwu

[hybrid schooner]

ya buying props doesnt feel like a chore

just let me buy the prophs i want. why do you have to rng us with it

[warped crow]

lol

[wet cape]

They're both very common in arena

[warped crow]

i block arena so that probably why kek

also thats just rude ... second eye drop no lp uwu

sad nemesis too

ill keep them as reroll fodder ig

we good now uwu

2 of them xD

[unkempt sphinx]

@warped crow Is there a reason why you put uwu/owo after every sentence? I’m just genuinely curious here 🥺

[nimble shoal]

A faithful servant of the dark god of fate

[warped crow]

lol

[spare vessel]

HELLOOOO MAGIC ENJOYERS

i think im gonna respec my runemaster to spellblade today https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/shatter-strike-spellblade-guide

Fools... fooooools

[spare vessel]

wow this feels like a rogue haha cool. its kinda more similar to bladedancer than runemaster it seems, nice

i dont have to level a rogue then 😄

[spare vessel]

well I thought i would never run out of MG favor again, but i used almost all of it to respec the build and new items haha

[noble reef]

i kinda would like to revamp an old disintegrate build of mine

did 1.2.5 nerf disintegrate in any way?

[molten cobalt]

Disintegrate has been bad entire 1.2

[noble reef]

reason?=

[hybrid schooner]

cause ehg hates mages. in 2028 well get a patch to fix what they did in 2024

they are still working hard on making different icons for different types of prophecies. its hard work

@spare vessel lmk if u got questions for the shatterstrike

i got it prretty figured out at this point

[spare vessel]

thanks! it seems pretty simple tbh, just need to have good timing for the defensive stuff cause it dies easily

damage is insane haha

[hybrid schooner]

usually when i get dongered its my something thats been dead a while already. which is a great feeling. in the .1 second that they were engaged and alive they jsut shit all over the ground

no death mechanics for mobs in the game but they sure liek to let the stuff on the ground linger

[potent echo]

Is my memory terrible or did Reowyn's Frostguard used to have a 30% damage reduction on it? It just seems to be ward now.

Messing around with a weird build and I was kinda counting on being able to keep that up for survival but if it's just ward it's kinda meh.

[lunar crest]

I have complete 2-3 LP uniques for Hydra RM but I can't switch over cause I can't find exalted items to slam them with.

[nimble shoal]

Used to have DR, they removed it

[potent echo]

Dang that is a shame

[glad marten]

No, 1.2.5 did not nerf disintegrate and disintegrate was significantly buffed in 1.2

[noble reef]

Ty sir

[glad marten]

I don't think it is uberoth viable, but it is possible to get a strong disintegrate build going. Just not strong relative to the meta (which is busted af)

[noble reef]

I never play meta builds so...

I used to run disintegrate pre 1.0 lol

[glad marten]

It's much stronger than 1.0

Maybe twice as strong

Don't trust people who say a build is weak, because you don't know what they're comparing to

[noble reef]

It was way before 1.0, runemaster didn't even exist

[molten cobalt]

Still shit

Buffed or not

[noble reef]

It was never shit imo

[molten cobalt]

If it cannot even do uber aberroth it is not a good build

Period

A build that cannot complete all current and available content is not good

[noble reef]

Well i don't care

[molten cobalt]

You are of course free to play whatever your heart desires

But you asked if it’s good or not

[noble reef]

Fun is to try builds . I actually asked if it was nerfed.

[molten cobalt]

And that’s a factual question not an opinion based question

And facts say no it is not good

But hey every mage build is lagging behind

@glad marten speak up boy, are you in denial?

[glad marten]

Speak up boy? Lol

What a clown

[molten cobalt]

I assumed you wanted to say something since you tried to communicate with emojis

Like a child

[glad marten]

I reject your bar for what makes a build good, or what makes a build "shit"

Only children use emojis!

[molten cobalt]

Object to it all you want

World is full of confused people

[glad marten]

I accept that the build can likely not do uberoth, and still think the build is good, and is CERTAINLY not "shit"

And people who say any build that can't do uberoth is shit are a cancer to the community and genre 👍

[molten cobalt]

Oki

Tell me more about it

[glad marten]

I've said everything there is to say

[molten cobalt]

Aight, at least it was quick and painless

Carry on

[glad marten]

So, just to be clear, do you think any build that can't do Uberoth is shit? It would be nice to state that clearly so that everyone knows just to disregard your opinion entirely

[molten cobalt]

Oh so you weren’t finished after all

Do continue

[glad marten]

I asked you a question?

[molten cobalt]

Indeed you did

Were you unsure about that fact?

[potent echo]

Author of Arcana's damage buff affects all runic invocations, not just direct casts right?

[molten cobalt]

Imagine your memory is so bad you forget what you write seconds prior

And need to follow up with a question asking what you wrote

[molten cobalt]

Which node is that?

I don’t memorise the names of the nodes

[molten cobalt]

It literally says direct cast

[potent echo]

It's not 100% clear if direct cast is only referring to mana cost refund.

[molten cobalt]

Well it is self direct cast only

So if you’re snapshotting frost wall you are never getting that buff

Because if you self cast you break snap shot

[potent echo]

I know that, doesn't really answer the question

[molten cobalt]

I did answer your question

[molten cobalt]

Right here

[potent echo]

Oh I misread that. Ty

[noble reef]

And i only asked if it was nerfed

But anyway i noticed it doesn't rely anymore on the amulet/offhand shenigans so it has more freedom in itemization

Before it was all about crit chance stacking

Now it's mana stacking i guess

At least in its lightning version

[potent echo]

There's no way to get Frost Wall as lightning AND giving Brand of Trespass right? Since the fire node appears to override the lightning one.

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, but I think the lightning wall will triggger Brand of Deception, so you don't need brand of trespass for it

Maybe not because it doesn't hit though

[cosmic dove]

Yeah FW will not trigger brand sadly

[potent echo]

Wait that means glyph won't trigger brand of deception either

Until it explodes anyways which who cares at that point

[cosmic dove]

I did a lightning disintegrate build and used runic invocation and/or static orb (manual or via disintegrate) to proc brand

(not a DOT invocation, obviously)

[harsh abyss]

yeah

Ball Lightning is really good for brand application

[potent echo]

I'm screwing around to see if I can make a blizzard build viable but idk how well it's gonna do

Especially if it's building around snapshotting frost wall because that's probably gonna get fixed at some point

[harsh abyss]

I've always thought that Reowyn's Fortress would be good for a blizzard build

Because you could use the Penetration with Cold Invocations affix for a crapton of dodge

And then that also works with blizzard, obviously

[potent echo]

Yeah that's what I'm using

[cosmic dove]

I tried a build with FW/the blizzard off hand. was able to do mirror bolt manually for ward.
it did .... negative damage. probably user error on my part

[potent echo]

The off-hand was tempting but I don't think free casts are enough

I really wish Heo was the dex scaler on Fundamental Criterion because then you could maybe dex stack and double dip with Mourningfrost

[harsh abyss]

That's probably specifically why it's not 😝

[potent echo]

Yeaaaaah probably

Stupid devs, making things not scale absurdly high

Str stack could probably still be a thing, at which point you might as well use cleaver solution. But idk if it'd be better

Still need some base damage somewhere or all that more from str isn't gonna do anything

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, and you can't combo str stacking with Reowyn's

Since you want Cleaver Solution

[potent echo]

Yeah it'd be one or the other

Idk why I want to make blizzard work so badly.

Another possibly dumb question, does this node affect runic invocation itself?

[harsh abyss]

It might, but only if the next non-channeled elemental spell you cast is Runic Invocation, which is only possible with a few specific non-channeled setups

[potent echo]

I'm just thinking like direct cast invocation -> flame rush with epilogue.

Flame rush is channeled so won't consume it, but the epilogue cast might.

[harsh abyss]

You'd have to try it, tbh

[potent echo]

I shall science it later when I have a chance to play then

[nimble shoal]

If you just get all your runes by channeling, you should have no issue using RI directly then

[nimble timber]

What makes/made scissor of Atropos best in slot for shatter strike?

[hybrid schooner]

@nimble timberat its best (with the correct rolls) it is best in slot because of attack speed, flat mele damage, and +2 skills. until you get at the very least a fat t7 roll, and shred armor, it will not be bis.

do this instead. Reen is best in slot anyways. 2 scissors is not ideal. and youll never find 2x perfect scissors anyways

they are much easier to get double t7 than scissor. just trust me on this

use scissor and reen once you get a scissor that is better than the tooth sword. however its difficult to do

[hybrid schooner]

you can roll without shred armor for mapping if you want. swap shred for crit multi or cold flat

or maybe you have shred armor handled on gloves or amulet

[warped crow]

uwu

[solemn linden]

Idk what I should build

Can you guys give me suggestions pls

[warped crow]

mana stacking disentigrate owo

[solemn linden]

Is it good for clear

It sounds funny

[warped crow]

no but maybe

[solemn linden]

lol

[warped crow]

i mean its disentigrate

lel

you channel ... you move ... you channel ... you move xD

lucomancy lets you stay in t3 beam while moving but its alot of sitting still

[solemn linden]

Not really what I’m looking for….

[warped crow]

frostclaw

uwu

[wet cape]

What does highlighted portion of this glyph of dominion node mean? Does this apply globally? I can't understand where this line would be applicable for use if not a global modifier

[woven yarrow]

I think it's just global shock, similar to how the brand sho k node is. Unfortunately it doesn't work I think... I tried on dummy and getting increased shock chance on hit didnt give more ignite stacks

[wet cape]

I was curious if it would work with Oceareon converting the more damage multiplier per shock to more damage per ignite

[blazing root]

Isn't the only hit from glyph the explosion

[wet cape]

With these nodes any shock should be contributing towards ignite frequency

[hybrid schooner]

another shatter strike solo bolo. idk why i subject myself to this

[nimble shoal]

No, it's not a global effect. It's standard wording and would affect similar effects, but only ones in that skill's skill tree

[hybrid schooner]

im getting better at it. theres just a lot that is just difficult to control you just get left with little options sometimes

[hybrid schooner]

broher idk why the entire fkn side i need as a fae spot in last phase is stacked with azers sometimes. like i do the fight the same every time. idk

safe spot

[wet cape]

You are in control of final phases laser placement to some extent throughout the entire encounter

[hybrid schooner]

i try to bait him a lot to move to oehter side and he just de aggros.

then i walk closer yto him and he starts swiping from off screen

cant fkn control anything with mele dude

the lazers just go where they go

you walk away to make him move he jsut staarts channeling

so not only do you get blasted by fire or ice but you miss the burst windows

and the dash is so buggy you jsut dash into shit when thats not even the direction your mous was in

its always the first harby trasnition. he wants to the the ice vortex, fire trail and fire suck right after the harby comes out. so while im dodging all of that the harby just dashing and shitting on me

and then the dash doesnt work half the time at all. like you can dash through im sometimes but then the other half the time it just stops on his face

and then bonk bonk bonk cant move, fire trail, dead

and then hes poiting the wrong way so you cant see the animation for fire trail.. like theres 101 different points of failure for shatter strike

its almost always the fire trial. stupid thing lasts forever

just constantly stunned dude its just pure luck if im not stunned and need to move. has to be the worst arpg mechanic ive ever seen where every time u get hit by anything you are stunned

and then we die to lag. cool

[spare vessel]

maybe offline is better after all lol

[hybrid schooner]

and then the fire trail is convered by a purple circle so u cant see it litterally at all

bonk bonk bonk bonk bonk bonk. so much fun beig perma stunned. so the answer is that is to get more health and dr whic i cant. or stun avoid which i cant

there. 2 kills at probably an hour a piece

i dont know that more damage or health would even be of any help honestly. its not a matter of damage or health right now ,the stuff that kills me would kill me anyways. and more damage would only mean a slightly shorter fight with being less stuff to get killed by

[spare vessel]

I think i should do mana spent as ward for shatter strike sb

i die too suddenly before i can react

[molten cobalt]

And how would more ward regen save you

That’s you getting one shot

Only solved with more EHP

[hybrid schooner]

ya idk. i dont die at all to trickle damage. its just the stuff that would most likely one shot anyways. i even tank the tri slam. but the fire is dumb

really have to track the fire and remember its there when he puts it down. i cant tell you how often i just derp into it about 20 seconds after he put it down

im pretty sure anothe 1-2k ehp would not stop dieing from what I die to. it would probably just mean less stuns. thats the real killer. stun right before you need to move is gg

[hybrid schooner]

the fire amost certainly counts as a dot i think thats part of the issue with it

[hybrid schooner]

anybody enjoy or is good at math? i want to see if i did the math right on this. i scaled the numbers down so its easier

if you do 1527 dps for 9 seconds, and 904 dps for 2.7 seconds. what is the % of damage loss for the 2.7 seconds of reduced damage over the 11.7s period

pretty sure i got it right but my brain is real farty rn

[fallen fern]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/ledogee/character/ledoge
Hi guys, i was trying the runemaster spark charge build and almost maxed out, but Uberoth still seems to be too powerful, how could i improve my character further?

[hybrid schooner]

what part of the fight is causeing you problems

[fallen fern]

My damage doesnt seem to be enough, and because i did not got the cleansing pot on belt, i die to the harbringer being summoned and fireballs

[hybrid schooner]

for the harby you can fight uber on the right side and move over to kill itprobably before he starts sucking fire

as range you shouldnt have an issue not standind in the fire suck while killing the harby

no teleport??

if theres any way you can wiggle teleport into the build it would be huge

[fallen fern]

i couldnt kill harby before he starts sucking so the root and fire kill me

tp is the runic invocation

[hybrid schooner]

mmkay just bait the fire suck in a different direction then kill the harby.

[fallen fern]

ill do that thanks. Maybe i am still overwhelmed by the amount of field skills

couldnt dodge all of them and anything can oneshot me

[hybrid schooner]

if youre standing on him sometimes he doesnt even do the fire suck

you can try that, and wait for the harby to come over

ur gear looks like plenty of power. theres just a lot of stuff in the fight even the best gear wont overcome for mage. vk geared out you just derp around in everything.

as far as the rest of ur build goes i dont know enough about that part

[fallen fern]

dang i got it under 60% and just died stepping into the lingering void for 1s

[hybrid schooner]

ya that shit dude

if it werent for the fire trial i bet my succes rate would be 1:2 on uber. right now its like 1:20 with my shatter strike

[fallen fern]

Idk if i keep losing to Uber i might as well make a vk account

[hybrid schooner]

nah you got it. its doable

[fallen fern]

yep, but the fire suck man, it just keeps hitting me when i almost kill the harby

so tilted

[glad marten]

Hey, I'm having some issues calculating my damage in a spreadsheet. Anyone willing to walk through it with me to see if I've made any mistakes?

[surreal talon]

Is it worth investing into the frost claw dagger that procs lightning blast? My runemaster has low single target. Don’t want guides

[hybrid schooner]

@surreal talonwhat build u running?

i think sorc is better at frostclaw than runemaster

this right? i heard it kinda sucks rn

boop doop. hope i can roll shred on here...

[umbral dew]

Who up casting they fireballs rn

[proper hawk]

idk about the gimmick, but dragorath's is just better than a rune dagger for any build that would use a rune dagger, I wouldn't say it sucks

[warped crow]

should we be playing temu frostclaw?

[solemn linden]

@hybrid schooner can u get a vid of ur shatter strike build clear pls, I’m struggling on if I should build it

[warped crow]

press run press run press run ... stand on boss preeeeesssssss

smaller range than erasing strike but same general gameplay

[umbral dew]

Truth

[umbral dew]

I think... i like lightning blast

[warped crow]

im kinda 50/50 about lightning blast

i mean

if we had something like poe2 weapon swap where you could like have a tree with the single target passive and without it would be nice

few skills and passives in general that would be super cool with that

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, it would be cool to have 2 LB specs for sure

[elfin yoke]

Can someone confirm if Frost Claw reliably gets 15 hits against single target in practice?

[warped crow]

Oh and another one not related to mage
and this is more about weapons than the tree ... but smokebomb

theres this bow that supports smokebomb, shadowstring, but its kind of a weak bow so no one really uses it

but that might be asking for too much ... at least alternate trees would be good enough xD

@harsh abyssi actually had this dumb idea a while back for a 6th deactivated skill slot that you could put any skill in and have it lvl up and then swap it out with any of the other 5 active skill slots

and it might have been able to be used with a skill that was already in the actives but it would have to replace the same skill so there isnt 2 versions in the active bar

its just kinda once you get to a certain point you can just run an xp mono and swap there and instantly be lvl 20 so the problem it solves kinda dissapears

so its really hard to justify it oof

but it would be nice before that point

also it would be nice if 3rd skill spec wasnt locked to a lvl at all but instead locked to picking your mastery ... would just smooth stuff out more since you can get your mastery alot earlier or later depending on how fast you are before that point

they could put a lower lvl limit of like 15 and a higher one at where it is now

but ye making that one slot a bit more dynamic would make things feel alot better

cuz 35 is fine where it is cuz thats temporal sanctum or oracle

and 50 is either monos or at least majelka

and 4 and 8 are kinda just 4 and 8 lel

i mean the problem with 4 is usually that its just too early xD

gotta hold out to wait for things like puncture or glacier xD

but thats not really a problem problem

not in the same way that the lvl 20 one is at least

[hybrid schooner]

@solemn linden u jsut want me to stream it a bit. idk how im gonna send a huge video

[fleet cradle]

I found out this doesn't work

found someone else sayin' the same thing https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/absolute-zero-for-black-hole-not-reachable-through-singularity/69064/2

[warped crow]

ye i remember seeing that ... no one plays that skill tho so no one reports it enough

[fleet cradle]

so it'll remain a dead end for another year I guess lol

[warped crow]

hopefully next season because they are actually looking at black hole now

kind of

i think acolyte is more on their radar tho

[fleet cradle]

even when i do reach the skill it kind of sucks on chill chance

[warped crow]

ye its really bad

its got an ignite build but you need to massively juice area and passive points

[hybrid schooner]

i think some of these little eaver monsters are bugged dude. sometimes you just instantly get killed by like the tiniest little mob as soon as teleport over to a pack. like they arent engaded at all so they arent already casting stuff. but as soon as you jump on it. bonk...dead. from the smallest monster

and it says ike 400 damage... doesnt make sense

12k ehp i dont understand

[hybrid schooner]

i can do uber, but a tiny little slug at 750 corr is just instant death on contact

[surreal talon]

I am just putting together whatever seems to have synergies

Atm I am using ele nova with the helmet, and soon the chest. And frost claw for single target. Tried runebolt and fireball, but too little dmg. Maybe lightning blast

[hybrid schooner]

what level are you

[warped crow]

that actually reminds me of the old ele nova lightning blast build

i think it was a spark charge build before enigma

[surreal talon]

I see. I forgot to mention that I want to be cold damage 😄

[warped crow]

ye idk then lel

probably frost claw

[surreal talon]

Playing HC. The highest I've gotten is level 89

I wanna get to corr 300 and comfortably farm

[warped crow]

and then do frost claw triggers for ele nova maybe?

[surreal talon]

Yeah was thinking

Trying all sorts of combination

[warped crow]

lol

[surreal talon]

Using frostwall that also triggers flame ward. Flame rush as mobility. Nova for clear, maybe it can work as single target with chest and a few upgrades

then the last skill I've tried all sorts of combos

nvm I just died better lucj next time xD

[dusky juniper]

new player (lvl79) what do i need to know about respeccing mastery?
Currently running sorcerer with Disintegrate, Focus, Flame Ward, Volcanic Orb, and Black Hole.
kinda want to respec into Runemaster because it seems fun, also got a couple uniques for it. I assume I have to level the skills again, should be fine right?

[surreal talon]

Just respec. I am assuming you are in softcore, so doesn't really matter

you just use the same dmging skills you have, but remove a buff or two, and then equip the skills you wanna play with there

then play a couple monoliths until you are satisfied with the new skill levels before you full commit

[dusky juniper]

alright, thanks

[noble reef]

Hey mages, i'm lvling my disintegrate build . I have to say i'm surprised ppl don't use double dip : mana and int stacking, crafting vilatra on staff and helm.

Or am i missing something?

[fleet cradle]

Is anyone using Red Giant for Black hole?

https://www.youtube.com/live/0miSGPAihtQ?feature=shared&t=4285

the auto target and projectile speed seem like a nice addition

[bitter lava]

Why is Throne of Ambition such a dog shit drop rate?

Or does RNG really hate me?

[hybrid schooner]

idk dude i can help u get it ez

[bitter lava]

I'll take you up on that next time, because even with emp monos I'm still not getting it

20 levels

No drop.

[potent echo]

It shouldn't be that bad, it's not the rarest item from him

[bitter lava]

I thought the same 20 levels ago

I'm not even asking for an LP ver at this point, just the damn base one

[potent echo]

Good news, throne can't get LP because it's an idol

[bitter lava]

Sweet!

[potent echo]

And it's entirely static stats so one is all you ever need

[bitter lava]

It's crazy because I have it set up so that I have 4 perfectly good spaces to put a Throne in

https://tenor.com/view/if-i-had-one-angry-yelling-fairly-odd-parents-mr-turner-gif-16322274

[hybrid schooner]

we can get you one in 5 mins or less man

[bitter lava]

If you're on tomorrow, bet. It's super late where I'm at and I'm crashed out

[hybrid schooner]

alright

[potent echo]

I've never timed it myself but 3 sec sounds about right. The other Antipode lasts 3.7 sec

[sinful stag]

For hydra runemsster how do I maximize ward gen and tankiness in general? Shattered vessel and HP regen? Or taking more int in passive tree with shattered worlds and vise

[glad marten]

It's not double dipping. Int stacking only gives fire damage, mana stacking only gives lightning damage

And they're both behind conversion nodes. So if you get both one of them straight up doesn't work

[hybrid schooner]

@sinful stagi think hydra scales with attunement right? i think the amount of ward rretention from passive intel pts is a bad investment if its just for ward. intel gives 2% retention per, not 4. the other passives that are ward relation have more value if you're not stacking int for damage.

[sinful stag]

Yeah figures, I’m tired of getting suddenly blasted at 1k corr but it seems like it’s just the nature of the hydra build

I have yet to try vise + shattered or vessel+HP regen stacking thoufh

[hybrid schooner]

sounds like a full rebuild

what relic u have pno

now

[sinful stag]

The box of hydra

[hybrid schooner]

ok right

i mean thats kina locked in tho isnt it

[sinful stag]

Yeah that’s what I figure and for damage it’s going to be incomparably better. Allie on her guide was suggesting vessel of strife or shattered worlds for late game pushing so I was curious how well that actually worked

[hybrid schooner]

i just dont knwo the value of the damage youd be losing causse i dont really know the build. slound to me like youd take a hit on daage but if the rest of your gear is already nearly peaked its a better option to lose the damage there and get beefier

strife is like a whole different stat requirement tho. doesnt sound fun to re tool for that

[sinful stag]

Yeah the gear burden gets really high with strife especially fitting it in with a boneclamor

[hybrid schooner]

strife would be great if all that health regen was doing something extra for you, but its literally just ward retention

err wps i mean

[hybrid schooner]

is there any downsiide to imprinting a 3 affix item. wondering if it produces less or something. cause it feels like less.

nvermind.. i just had to shit talk the imprint a little bit and now its spitting bangers

yooo

[sinful stag]

What build is the reen for

[hybrid schooner]

this is so gigga. now the weaver sword isnt burdened by needing shred armor

[sinful stag]

Spellblade?

[hybrid schooner]

its BIS for shatter strike. do not listen to anyone who tells you otherwise.

but ya it has some other applications as well.

[sinful stag]

That is a crazy slam

And a 3 LP reen is nuts too

Are you cof?

[hybrid schooner]

yes cof

i did nothing but 1h sword prophs like a mad man for days

3lp reen isnt really a practical farm. its not that rare of a ratio for it. but the sword itself is far more rare than others

[umbral dew]

How I feel after getting a decently nice weaver’s will gloves only to have half of it spent on poison res (one improvement was literally +1%)

[bitter lava]

@hybrid schooner You still up for Throne farming?

[hybrid schooner]

ya i got you

if youre cof i can jsut drop them it for you also. add skrrizzle in game

@bitter lava

[sinful stag]

Is hydra rune master still the fastest uberroth clear for mage at 1 minute?

[noble reef]

No int stacking on vilatra gives flat lighting spell dmg on int. Mana stacking gives more lightning dmg = double dip

[glad marten]

That's not a double dip... that's just two stats giving two separate benefits

[noble reef]

Yeah sry

True, double stacking lol

Anyway

Looks sexy

[glad marten]

The issue is that...you could just go all in on mana or all in on int

[noble reef]

By my calculation you can do both

[glad marten]

And also, vilatria set is a big investment in terms of opportunity cost. I avoided it, personally

[noble reef]

You lose few mana from passives by going int

Abd the rest is on gear

It's kinda 40 mana total

I will stack mana and try do synergize both when i have gear to check if it's doable

On paper looks juicy, idk about reality yet

[hybrid schooner]

explain this to me. its 750 corv

just one single little bug. i run over to it and insta de

doesnt even make any sense. i had 3200 health and 2k standing ward. i get hit for 2600 and then 600 overkill. whats the math on this

12k ehp. i dont think 1 single iht from 1 mob at 750 corr should be doing this. its not even an elite its just 1 cockroach

[noble reef]

another question fellow mages

is disintegrate shock chance per second its own thing? i mean for sure it doesn't get shock chance on hit but does it even gets other sources of shock chance and if yes which ones?

[harsh abyss]

As far as I'm aware, every other shock chance is on hit

or on hit with spells or lightning skills or whatever

[molten cobalt]

Sounds about right

[noble reef]

y i think only shock duration somewhat works

to stack those 10 stacks faster

or more reliably

[hybrid schooner]

im getting better at uber. only took about 5 tries this time. im sure the added damage is doing most of the work

now if i could figure out how to get the lazers to all be right on top of the safe spot in last circle that would be great. every time i kill him im just in the lazers the whole time at end

[merry veldt]

It's not one hit, it's a barrage. And yeah, it is overtuned

[hybrid schooner]

@hybrid schooner alright so its not just me

its pretty wild just walking over to a lone cockaroach and get dongered

[umbral dew]

Imma be honest I am barely lvl 40 and very new to the game and seeing that absolutely insane number makes me freeze in shock

Who in their right mind needs 2.5 million damage per second or are the endgame bosses that bad

[hybrid schooner]

ehh, its closer to 9mill on combat. uhh u dont need that kind of damage but in a lot of cases good offense is the best defense so to speak

[noble reef]

Don't worry abput it

Just keep going and work on your build

[glad marten]

The best way to stack shock for disintegrate is to apply it with another ability, honestly

[noble reef]

I use static orb

Procced by that movement skill

[glad marten]

Yep, that's what I do, too. Static orb + flame rush

[hybrid schooner]

anybody have interest in farming a bit of lightless boss? just faster with 2 people

[lunar crest]

How can you tell if the Aspirant's Arrival snapshotted?

[hybrid schooner]

when you do 5x the damage

other than that, there no indicatioonw

[formal sun]

Why void of anguish on a shatter strike build? Trying to understand the maxroll guide

[hybrid schooner]

the ring?

its one of two items that can apply doom. which combos of the belt for 20% multi damage

[formal sun]

Yes siphon ot void

[hybrid schooner]

the mele leecah and leech rate are also key

[formal sun]

Thank you! I have tons of them from my vk

[hybrid schooner]

the only other source of leech is most likely going to be vise gloves unless you run null portent chest

[formal sun]

Right... I'm still not farming aberoth

[hybrid schooner]

if you have not got set up on swords yet Ill save you some time and tell you that finding 2 or even 1 well rolled scissor is very aspirational

ive farmed thousands.

[formal sun]

I have 2 decent ones for now but I'm looking to use this Ire of Reen sword I just found 3lp

Looks cool

[hybrid schooner]

use nalls tooth for the easy 7/7 lp2 slam

and reen should be your other sword anyways

youll get a huge power spike right away instead of slogging away farming scissors

[formal sun]

Is there a different build I can follow ?

Thanks for the help

[hybrid schooner]

uhh. i just got a few pointers from some of the shatter uber kills on yt

[formal sun]

Fair enough

[hybrid schooner]

they all use reen. the only way 2 scissors would even be remotely comparable to 1 scissor/nalls tooth + eye of reen is if you found a perfect scissor. and even then 200 crit multi is unlikely to be beat

nalls tooth is nearly identical to scissor, BUT you can slam your stats instead of fishing. plus move speed

[formal sun]

Oh nice nice thanks for the tips!

Cleaning my laptop right now thought I'd ask a question
Thank you

[hybrid schooner]

ill link build

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B4bOpYeA

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Spellblade (80) / Runemaster (13)

General:

▸ Health: 2,860, Regen: 27.6/s
▸ Mana: 134.29, Regen: 14.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 275%, Regen: 260/s
▸ Attributes: 28 Str / 128 Dex / 72 Int / 6 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 106% / 82% / 106% / 119% / 53% / 115% / 81%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 572
▸ Dodge Chance: 18% (614)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 60% (4,361)

Used skills:

Shatter Strike / Mana Strike / Flame Ward / Teleport / Enchant Weapon

[hybrid schooner]

i was going much beefier on health originally. but i found that with null portent on. even with another 1k or so health, the stuff that would kill me on uberoth is going to kill me regardless of the health

[formal sun]

Yeah that makes sense. Can't outlive a one-shot mechanic

Thanks for the planner link

[hybrid schooner]

this setup is tanky enough to tank tri slam with flame shiled on easily. and stand in multiple puddles/lazers if you have to

[formal sun]

Very nice.

[hybrid schooner]

ooop forgot to swap neck. thats my mappig nexk

boss neck. with the void res here i dont have to carry 6 idols slots of voide res. so can either stack more health or damage. which ends up being more health or damage then i would get from a t7 damage prefix here

you can opt for stymied boots from orobys. buuuut lp2 thee is extremely unlikley so youll lose an affix. and it doesnt have any dex/int on it

stymied would enable you to run double red ring tho cause it applies doom. i dont like this setup. causae you most likely will not be crit chance capped like this either

[umbral dew]

Hi, new to mage here. Is ice claw nova or black hole meteor a better build?

[formal sun]

im gonna just go with what i feel. made it to 800c on my self-made vk bomber so i think i can manage the shatter strike 🙂 at 156c at level 68 right now

started it thursday

[hybrid schooner]

so i finally got around to testing mountain boots for damage. I was not sure if the mana cost reduction would translate into much difference, or at least enough to measure. buuut its pretty massive

23s dummy kill with bloods, 19s dummy kill with mountains

[potent echo]

That's pretty good. They're relatively easy to get high LP too

[hybrid schooner]

yuh for sure. only real chance of getting either health or dex on boots

man they just slow as shit tho

probably worth swapping to for high end boss pushing tho for the dr and damage. ill have to try them on uber to see if the move speed is a problem

its got me wondering what kind of value i can get out of swapping some pts into here. i thought i tested it before but idk

[hybrid schooner]

ya idk if it was the mountain boots that made the differennce on this uber kill but its never been that easy. first try

gigga deeps

was hard to avoid the purple orbs however

oh, I did swap to double cooldown rolls too so perma uptime on enchant weapon. and the cleanse from it comes sooner.

[warped crow]

more dmg by just not using that

thats why the lvling build on maxroll uses it and the endgame version swaps it out for more dmg passives

also adding foot of the mountain because most of your damage phases will be u standing still spamming shatter strike

and all that stacked dex will become endurance stuff uwu

[hybrid schooner]

idc much about the endurance. but shatter strike is really singing with the mana cost redux from it

ive learned that to get the good dps windows where hes spitting ice or suckn fire you have to bait it from range. if you just ride him the whole time he wont do it

[fleet cradle]

https://www.youtube.com/live/j2oWRfINgjU?feature=shared&t=14045

400 corruption is a little scary this is my first char, mage of course

not sure if i should care more about crit avoidance or armor or both

[umbral dew]

Tried black hole didn’t like it much, I think I’m going back to ice claw nova

[hybrid schooner]

@solemn linden i put a couple videos in the video section. no clears yet just uber and a TTK on the boss dummy.

[warped crow]

something like that lel

do i do it uwu

or do i do this owo

technically the better boots would be that reduced crit dmg boots but meh these are faster

oops forgot to add the rings

[hybrid schooner]

move speed wins. even losing 10% move speed feels icky

[warped crow]

honestly

is it even more speed? i mean haste effect is more speed i guess

i mean id probably have to get a really good pair of those other boots

but ye basically mana stacking dissentegrate or fire acid flask owo

the base ammy kinda rolled bad but i mean 13% all res and 13 vitality is nice

[warped crow]

also eeeh ... i mean over 100% movespeed feels very addictive but honestly under 30% feels unplayable and anything over 50% feels pretty good

[hybrid schooner]

addictive is the word. if you never add that extra 30% you wont miss it

[warped crow]

i think my erasing strike build is running 130 rn kek

[hybrid schooner]

ya im at 131 mapping

[warped crow]

oh ye same

131

would drop it for bossing but my phys res is a bit too messy and honestly i was forgetting to do it before when i didnt have to worry about that

so just perma darkstride

[hybrid schooner]

dude the spirit barrage is so gigga busted. just walk up to an enemy and get insta deleted. nothing to do about it

[warped crow]

lol

[hybrid schooner]

why is gauntlet of strife so fkn difficult

oh cause EHG likes every mob in the game to just vommit different colored aoes on the ground constantly

[warped crow]

yeeeeee

[lunar crest]

The 10 Harby echo is still my least liked one.

Glad it's a one and done kinda thing.

[warped crow]

lowkey why is that thing harder than abberoth

[harsh abyss]

Better than every mob having on death effects that kill you instantly 👍

[noble reef]

the mana of the beast

[unreal turtle]

what stats does spellblade want on a scissors sword

[hybrid schooner]

shatter strike?

[unreal turtle]

yeah

[hybrid schooner]

ideally for prefix you prio attack speed

and from my testing its not that important what the other afix is. t7 of each type is comparable

but i would prio flat mele cold, or crit muti

for bossing youre going to need shread armor somewhere. at least 100% chacne to shred somewhere. ideally it would be a suffix on weapon.

[unreal turtle]

ah ok, i just got one with t7 shred and also some crit multi , thought i found a decent one

[hybrid schooner]

is prob a good starter. t7 shred is way overkill tho not ideal

[unreal turtle]

but 1 stat is a dud and the other is melee damage

[hybrid schooner]

just do this. ignore the shred armor on the reen

they are pretty easy lp2. the tooth sword is nearly a direct replacement for the scissor. get the lp2 slams easy. youll be hunting scissors for weeks

[unreal turtle]

i have some 1lp naals on deck , ill try those out

[hybrid schooner]

1x eye of reen is better then 2x scissors anyways. not negotiable. way higher damage

as long as you have t7 shatter strike on chest you will not be missing the 2 skill pts at all

[unreal turtle]

do you wear an exalted armor

or kestrel

[hybrid schooner]

uhh, i guess to be fair to the kestrel is does give you haste and a litle more dex. but zero armor value, and i wouldnt use it unles lp3-4 which isnt hard to get

[unreal turtle]

yeah i have a lp3 kestrel waiting for me

but dont really have a good armor to use on it yet

[hybrid schooner]

i you go with purp armor (which is better for tanky). prob use this base type

that amount of armor is more like 1500 armor in combat

but to answer your question i use null portent. i was using kestrel before

[unreal turtle]

thats off aberoth yea?

[hybrid schooner]

ya

[unreal turtle]

i havent beat him yet, so wont count on that armor for now lol

[hybrid schooner]

not even considering the damage reduction, the mele leech and leech rate are amazing enough

these have some viability also

[unreal turtle]

titan heart even without a 2hander?

[hybrid schooner]

ye its got a super fat health affix

89% more health if you slam t7 on there

[unreal turtle]

yeah i guess you could slam on even more too

doesnt spellblade go for a lot of dodge also

[hybrid schooner]

i suppose you cold, i do not at all

i only use the mountain boots for bossing

they are too slow and when clearling echos it just feels terrible

[unreal turtle]

ah okay, i thought it was more standard

[hybrid schooner]

pretty easy lp2, all the stats you need. and 30% more speed

[unreal turtle]

youll be zooming with those

ill skip hte dodge stuff for now then, idk where i heard that from

[hybrid schooner]

ehh its a thing. but idk whre the affixes are gonna live. like we already fighting for affies everywhere cause just about everytying is 2lp at best

and at the very least you know you are going to lose health for it

[left hill]

does Cooldown Recovery Speed affect Lightning Blasts from Arcane Ascendance, since it says it has a 2-second cooldown?

edit: got an answer in #❔┃ask-the-community message

[hybrid schooner]

brother... the spirt barrage

im not even getting hit by anything and die out of nowhere. its always spirit barrage

every death spirit barrage

[hybrid schooner]

may just swap back to false temples for amber farm instead of reweaving echos. no spirit barrage!

[solemn linden]

Ok Ty!

[spare glen]

@radiant vessel have u tested ice spikes on shatter strike, can they hit main target on uber for example? and if so how many hits?

[radiant vessel]

all

it's bugged right now so they spawn from the center instead of the edges

If it weren't bugged it'd be way harder to shotgun

[spare glen]

would it matter on such big targets as uber tho

on shade ye

[radiant vessel]

it would

shatter aoe is bigger than him

[spare glen]

OKK im cooking a true spellblade, melee/spell hybrid AS DEVS intended

[hybrid schooner]

eww

[radiant vessel]

make sure you test it, it shouldn't have changed but who knows man lol

I checked this ages ago

[spare glen]

op, the potential is there

[radiant vessel]

I would hope they'd fix the bug instead of just removing the shotgunning though

[hybrid schooner]

frozen sent did a cool spall blade with volcanic orb. did uber. damage and tank was real good

[radiant vessel]

you can make volcanic orb shotgun all the shrapnel on a single target

it's kinda funny

[hybrid schooner]

was basicaly jsut frostbite and mana stacking for damage to mana

[covert moon]

Is there an elemental nova channel build?

Or some guide I could mod to ele nova channel?

Something that could aim to do 300-500 C

[unreal turtle]

Are there any spellblade builds besides shatter strike

[left hill]

there was a low-cooldown Surge/Flame Reave build someone showed off recently. I don't remember how high it was pushing

[warped crow]

probably like 500 tops

what is something that can be leveled easily transition into disentegrate

maybe glacier?

[formal sun]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/runemaster-leveling-guide

[gloomy sand]

I think disintegrate would probably level pretty well by itself. My favorite and fastest leveling was mana strike, static auto proccing lightning blast. Pop static on high health mobs and spam mana strike with all the proc bells and whistles. Used surge, too.

That imo is the fastest I've used to go all the way to the beginning of empowered monos

[warped crow]

lol

hmmm need to make up for 40% loss

40% is 2/3 of 60%

about 540 mana to break even

i was gonna level as a different mana stacking build until then

[warped crow]

playing the lightning variant

or at least till lvl 30 when i can equip the relic for +5 uwu

[harsh abyss]

I think the fastest leveling I've done is ignite fireball with the fireballs in a line

Especially if you can get a Calamity and Firestarter's

Then you get Teleport to cast 3 fire ele novas, which also do a ton of ignites and proc spreading flames

[warped crow]

lol

[lime sable]

what the:

[left hill]

that armor has a serious build identity crisis

[lime sable]

for real

[warped crow]

lol

[hybrid schooner]

just missing around with frsotclaw procs on mele hit. whats missing from the equation here that this is so little damage. 100+% spell crit, should be about 260 spell damage

obviously the cast speed isnt going to scale the damage here cause itll be mele attack speed based

[warped crow]

lol

[hybrid schooner]

why it so smol

i mean i guess its more damage but its less than 1% of the shatter strike damage

why dafec they even have this shit in the tree

[warped crow]

because its meme

[hybrid schooner]

big dam

would hthis cold pen apply to shatter strike maybe

i mean that would actually be something substantial

[left hill]

no, the cold penetration is specifically for Frost Claw when it consumes those stacks

[hybrid schooner]

is there any way to make some sort of value out of these procs on shattter strike hits. ward, damage, move speed, anything at all?

as suspected. it probably only have value a generator for an on hit build

ingite>frostbite

[left hill]

fire converted frostclaw + Chillflame could maybe have some usefulness, but I haven't mathed it

[hybrid schooner]

whats the chillfmae

chillfma

omg..

is that an item i dont see in trees

[left hill]

Shatter Strike node, top right

[hybrid schooner]

o right. ya i was thinking same

7 pts to get there. were talking about an entirely different setup. i was trying i unspec tele and slip in the frostclaw for at least some value. cant find any

uhh

this seams to have a lot of value. but ive never seen anyone put pts here

[charred ivy]

Thinking of creating a mage. What sorc build has the best clear? I mean, killing the whole screen.
Too tired of a melee super concentrated attack druid.

[harsh abyss]

Meteor, Static Orb, Brand of Deception Runemaster, Frost Claw, Fireball...

Lots of good clear options, tbh

[rigid thicket]

How is everyone maintaining motivation to play hydra runemaster? I love the build but it feels kinda squishy

[lunar crest]

Taking 2 mins to clear an echo never gets old.

It does feel a bit clunky tho. I am not a fan of how uncomfortable it is to use Flame Rush for movement. There's a windup(?) for the cast and I feel like the animation should be twice as fast.

[rigid thicket]

Oh, sorry, I mean with bosses/harbingers/etc.

[lunar crest]

Oh. I usually just zoom around the screen creating space whenever I can and dodge hazards.

Flame Guard when I know I won't be able to move out quick enough.

[rigid thicket]

Do you use the num lock trick for flame ward? Or the build that triggers it automatically? Or manual lol

[lunar crest]

I like using Flame Guard manually. Not having it available when I really need it has cost me trove/temple runs in the past.

[rigid thicket]

Cool, thanks for the info!

[hybrid schooner]

yooo im able to kill uber now before he even gets to the center circle and slams.

damage output is pretty wild for a shatter strike. but i started baiting him away from the edge so when he does the lazer beam thing i have more time to slap on him before i have to move in

kill was probably 1m30s or less

also started pulling some pts from damage reduction nodes on flame shield to put into this. as long as i can still take the tri slam we good

[harsh abyss]

I wish I had the patience to really farm and optimize a character

I just get so bored doing it

[charred ivy]

What's the best source/planner/guide I could follow for Meteor? Any suggestion?

[harsh abyss]

Search youtube for Dr3adful or FrozenSentinel

Their guides are usually good, I think they have some solid meteor builds

[sinful stag]

dmg is very very high but it is squishy. the hydra has good aoe but the semi random targeting does sometimes allow mobs to survive for longer than expected to one shot you

[wary jacinth]

is someone playing hydrahedron here?

i have made adjustments to the build using volcanic orb to use its manacost for arcane battery, to have every single cast of hydrahedron as double cast. for the added mana cost im using focus instead of runebolt. it also makes me faster and very tanky.
Does this makes any sense? https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/hamlfr/character/krabab
volcanic orb can be cast while flamerush

[wary jacinth]

here a short video of 1347c shade with my crap gear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZjKcsZ-joo

[noble reef]

What about the old glacier ward generator sorc?

Is still a thing?

[hybrid schooner]

i have not come across any glacier setups this cycle. if you get 10k ward with it i would consider that a huge W. I think I've seen maybe 1 build that would get around 10-11k consistantly.

actually 2. the str stack runemaster can do 10-12 peak. and ive seen lightening blast around that range as well.

[noble reef]

Idk if it's 10k

I used to play ages ago

Was all about ward on mana spent and lost knowledge mana stacking

The trick is glacier gives you mana back on crit and kill

So you can spam and keep getting mana

[hybrid schooner]

maybe theres room there for damage to mana options/

?

[noble reef]

Yeah ofc you can go for that

Back in the days i went wand + focus for juicy ward gen offhands

But i think dmg would be more consistent with a staff

Less slot for castspeed tho and you kinda want to spam it fast

Last glacier explosion (which is the one that really matters) is 350% effectiveness on added dmg

So flat dmg is good

But i guess you can't sustain the mana burn of a gate staff

Maybe dragon staff would be ideal

[noble reef]

and ofc game tempt me to try glacier on a gate staff lol

[dense drift]

does anyone need this? i have 2 its faction item tho so i cant put in market will prob just put it on the ground lol, done with mage

[hybrid schooner]

would take the better part of a day to get the resonance to trade that

[warped crow]

so if you had seed that 40-56% endurance applying to mana would apply to all of your mana right? not just to what your life endurance threshold is?

[hybrid schooner]

hmm

ya i want to say all mana. sounds op right

[warped crow]

i mean it is from aberoth so would make sense ... also you lose potentially 22% of dmg taken as mana from fractured crown

[hybrid schooner]

i think u can still get quite a lot

[warped crow]

you can cap it still but that means losing t7 mana on your body

or at least its alot harder to get both

well

you lose 2%

instead of 90% youll have 88%

[hybrid schooner]

taht endurance counts for a ton id imagine

[warped crow]

ye but that endurance only matters if you can redirect it to your mana

everything not redirected doesnt matter

you need alot of it to make it a relevant defense

lot more painfui than ward or life

wait no its 89 and 87%

cuz mage relic only goes up to 9%

wait no

28% seed
20% tree
20% t7 helmet
20% t7 body
9% relic

idk brain hurt

is there a cap on that?

so 97 vs 99%?

[harsh abyss]

Also don't forget there's an inherent 5:1 ratio for mana as well

[warped crow]

the part that matters is the damage reduction cuz doesnt matter how much mana your eating xD ... well i mean it does but less

like maybe your mana wont be able to tank shotgunning insane numbers ... but it definately can tank more than your health could

[warped crow]

btw

how does it stack with flame wards passive

that does the same thing

[harsh abyss]

Additive

Just like the affixes and stuff

[warped crow]

ic

[nimble shoal]

Depends on what you mean

flame ward's damage to mana is a totally different stat from "damage dealt to mana before health", so it would be multiplicative with those

[warped crow]

ye that one

i see

[nimble shoal]

Flame ward's redirection works on ward damage, too

[warped crow]

ic lol

[hybrid schooner]

oo thats a nifty bit

[unreal turtle]

how are you supposed to deal with these bleed stacks from nib on spellblade?

[lunar crest]

You don't.

The more bleed stacks you have, the higher your DPS gets.

AFAIK physical resistance plays a part in mitigating that damage but I'm not sure if the same can be said if it is self-inflicted.

[rugged shell]

Phys resist and armour

Null potent

Opal amulet (Nihilis is better)

Leech / ward on hit help

[glad marten]

For the record my build uses a full health replacement with mana 60% endurance and a 54% seed. Im using t7 damage dealt to mana on chest.

I have about 60k ehp against fire, void, and physical hits

[spare vessel]

I have a shitton of damage on shattered strike, but i cant survive uber

should I max health / dodge with boots of mountain---> endurance / ward and ward retention

or a bit of both with good balance?

or something else. basically is there a way for this build to survive uber other than having to dodge everything

also necrotic res with the helmet that converts it to ward

[hybrid schooner]

@spare vessel lemms see ur planner dude

the only things you should need to dodge, other than the purple circles so you dont get stacsk, are the trie slam (which you should be able to survive with flame shield), and the fire trail (which will kill you no matter what).

im betting that your leech is not enough

i can stand on top of 3 puddles and in the lazerrs at the same time if i have to

[hearty chasm]

something weird is happening, did they fixed the snapshot ?

[hybrid schooner]

frostwall? unlikely. u have the pts specced in?

[hybrid schooner]

@unreal turtle dont use it for echo clearing. since ur mostly just swping at big packs and moving on to the next youre basically just gonna get gigga stacks all the time and not consistanly generating ward/leaching health

but, Vise gloves with experimental dot affix would help

[spare vessel]

yeah i dont think I have any leech, it's similar to this: https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/shatter-strike-spellblade-guide

i guess I should try leech on weapon then

well, kind of like this but worse probably cause i havent bought enough ward retention + hp idols yet, they are expensive

[hybrid schooner]

depending on your base health ad current % health increase. these ay be better too

[spare vessel]

i guess i need better idols and to try some leech

[hybrid schooner]

get a 2lp null portent

leach and dr

kesrrel is cutting your armor by about 1k easily. and no damage reduction

you can do it with just the rings leech and kestrel but you gonna have to be an absolute ninja

with my current setup (and well earned experience getting roasted by uber for2 weeks), i can consistantly line up 20 ubers and get them knocked out without too much headache

also the maxroll passive tree is kinda shit

that maxroll build has nearly 6k health

[noble reef]

good for hydra thingy i guess

[hearty chasm]

u need criterion for hdydra

[noble reef]

ah good for nothing then

[rigid holly]

I have been trying this build and it’s been a ton of fun up to around 200 corruption so far, but I know it’s quite old. Anything it’s missing that’s newer? Will it just peter out early compared to more recent builds?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/runebolting-frostwall-frostbiter-runemaster

[silk pewter]

Runebolting Frostwall-Frostbiter Runemaster Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Beta / 0.9.2f

Class

Mage / Runemaster

Used skills

• Runebolt
• Glyph of Dominion
• Flame Rush
• Flame Ward
• Frost Wall

Used unique items

• Snowdrift
• Frostbite Shackles

Tags

Monolith Farmer / Ranged / DoT

Created by EMP1241 · Oct 26, 2023, 2:18 PM

[spare vessel]

i may get 1 LP first, wondering which affix to slam to it

maybe later i go for 2LP, its > 500m

i guess increased health %

@hybrid schooner if u got your planner link for shatter strike pls share 🙂

[wet cape]

Is immolators oblation only source of self-ignite

[potent echo]

The staff from Soulfire has self-ignite too

I think that's the only other one that's available to all, might be acolyte skill stuff I don't know about

[sharp mantle]

maehlin's hubris and self bleed should become self ignite too

works that way on some acolyte stuff anyway

[hybrid schooner]

@spare vessel this is what i use on uber. and ya some of the stuff is pretty rare. for a 1lp chest idk. i would hate to not have the 4 pts in shatter strike. and you gonna have to figure out where your crit redux is going to live

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BaNYlR9o

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Spellblade (80) / Runemaster (13)

General:

▸ Health: 2,496, Regen: 24/s
▸ Mana: 167.46, Regen: 11.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 251%, Regen: 242/s
▸ Attributes: 26 Str / 128 Dex / 75 Int / 18 Att / 27 Vit
▸ Resistances: 101% / 77% / 101% / 116% / 124% / 133% / 77%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 499
▸ Dodge Chance: 18% (614)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 61% (4,583)

Used skills:

Shatter Strike / Mana Strike / Flame Ward / Teleport / Enchant Weapon

[potent echo]

Do y'all think a dex stacking lightning RM could work well? Just an idea I've got bouncing around in my head but Fundamental Criterion gives more damage from dex, Reowyn's Fortress gives flat damage from dex via dodge, and mourningfrost could also give flat from dex although not sure that's worth.

As long as your invocation is Gon 2nd rune it'd scale with Criterion so there's a few you could try. Ball lightning is the most obvious but also some weirder ones like the antipodes

[hybrid schooner]

criterion only going to scale your demage from dex if the invocation is doing the damage

[potent echo]

I just feel like triple dex scaling (you could technically reach defender of Welryn in spellblade if you wanted to get silly but with Word of Lagon there's no way that's necessary or worth) has gotta be able to do something

Especially if you combine it with an invocation that scales well with flat

Antipode of Mesembria has 800% scaling but there's no way that's anything but awkward with how delayed it is.

[hybrid schooner]

welp, lighting dex was already put together by frozensentinel. its nearly the same as str stack but ya few different items, and stack dex instead of str

[potent echo]

Ah, I'm not the first person to have this idea then. I'll go check it out

[hybrid schooner]

i dont know if theres any invocations waht would scale off of spell damage or not i really have no idea. but ya fi you could double dip on the dex that would be something

almost tripple dip with the black blade 2h weapon that frozen sent used on his build

dex=lightening pen

[potent echo]

Vilatria's Storm Lance is 300% damage scaling and also has the interesting property of being a guaranteed crit.

Sadly grand prism nova is not Gon second rune, it's got 600% scaling and is actually usable as a spammable invocation

[hybrid schooner]

300 damage scaling on what

[potent echo]

From flat

Every point of added flat damage is 3x damage

[hybrid schooner]

really, and gon rune?

[potent echo]

Yeah, it's Heo Gon Gon

You don't get the first effect from Criterion bc it's not Gon first rune but that one doesn't scale so not the end of the world

[hybrid schooner]

have u tried the invocation at all tho. some of them are kinda shit the way they operate

[potent echo]

Yeah some of them are very jank. Vilatria's is pretty simple, it's just a straight-line shot in front of you. No chaining or anything so idk how great the clear would be.

[hybrid schooner]

ooo that one

ya the clear is bad

jsut have to use orb for clear

[potent echo]

Yeah plasma orb also benefits from this because it's Gon second as well

Really the mana guide setup is almost certainly the most efficient way to make this work

[hybrid schooner]

oh your not going to do brand tho

full invocation damage

[potent echo]

My thought was just a pure hit build. You could absolutely do Brand but you wouldn't need the flat then.

[hybrid schooner]

now that i have not seen anyone do yet

i played the brand for so long

youd probably benefit from having a runic energy generator

double cast and extra damage wont be much if you dont

[potent echo]

What do you mean by double cast?

[hybrid schooner]

youll probably get the double cast often enough actually but not the xtra damage for having tons of energy

should still be able to snapshot this as long as you only let the flame rush activate your invocation

[potent echo]

Oh yeah, probably worth investing in runic energy.

You'd need a spell with decent mana cost to hit reasonable amounts of energy, runebolt probably won't cut it.

[hybrid schooner]

if your wearing those boots you should have decent enoueh spell damage too so it wont just be for energy hopefully

wonder if theres a way to get auto cast stuff somehow and let the runic energy just come that way

a lot of this is beyond my knowledge base tbh

speaking of swords, heres your sword

[potent echo]

Yeah it never even occured to me to use that for scaling but it probably makes sense, if you're already getting flat from the boots don't need more from the staff.

[hybrid schooner]

pen would be huge

could prob get like 200 dex. but you gonna have a hard time making up that phys and cold res

[potent echo]

Yeah I'm a bit worried about defences but I figure I'll work that out if I can even make something workable on the damage side lol.

I also have a really dumb idea involving Gordian Prism but I have to test an interaction to see if it even works the way I'm hoping.

I gotta sleep but I'm gonna play around with the planner a bit tomorrow, see what I can come up. Ty for working through my weird ideas with me, I appreciate the help.

[hybrid schooner]

yeep later

[spare vessel]

I played a build like that until 500c and got regular aberroth, it was fun

I can link you a relevant guide I was using as a basis although it's kinda old

Probably not the strongest build out there but it was fun and not expensive for mg

[spare vessel]

Cool ty! I have most of these but with lower lp now, I will try to improve them over time if I have the gold

[hybrid schooner]

the mountain boots for me are literally just for the mana cost. through testing they wre a massive improvement to dps output

i never imagined that the mana cost would have translated into that much more damage but it does

[spare vessel]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/ball-lightning-hybrid-dot-crit-runemaster it's nothing super strong but maybe you can pull some ideas from it

Yeah it looks good. For now I need to farm a bit of favor and get a better sword and some idols

Higher lp items later maybe

Thanks for the help!

[hybrid schooner]

what swords u have right now

[spare vessel]

Two scissors of atropos but one has trash affixes so it's the first thing I need to improve

I'm on phone now so don't have link

[hybrid schooner]

well straight away a 2lp reen will massively improve your dps

2 scissors is not only worse, but a pipe dream to get 2x with double t7 and proper siffixes

[spare vessel]

Cool, although tbh my dps seems great as is. It's survivability I need for uber

The leech already is a bit improvement. I will check how much is 2lp reen, I'll get it if it's not expensive

But i dont have favor for now so 😜

[hybrid schooner]

unless your scissor has like 100 shred on it and t7 t6 prefix minimum. nalls tooth is better

even 1 proper scissor is aspirational. idk why this maxroll guty put it on endgame guide. hes got everyone chasing a sword they dont need and arent gonna get

i was doing over 100 follys a day at one point farming those scissors

[spare vessel]

eye of reen lp2 is expensive, i need to keep gold for idols

What u think about https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCMoFgZiA lp3 is free basically?

Or keep scissors better with the best affixes I can find?

[hybrid schooner]

hmm

whats a 3lp on this going for

fast base rate and a ton of flat

[spare vessel]

doesnt even exist on the bazaar

so prob not an option

[hybrid schooner]

what about this

[spare vessel]

i will just make a gladiators oath for now since I already have one and I dont need to spend favor, at least as a temp one

[spare vessel]

15m lp2, lp3 doesnt exist

[hybrid schooner]

ya i never seen a 3lp. lp2 is freeee. u really want this to replace a scissor. its easy double 7 slam

[spare vessel]

u think health on hit affix can help for survivability or its trash?

i feel i need to survive a lot more than dmg

[hybrid schooner]

no with portent you good

[spare vessel]

but im bad 😄 for when im out of mana

maybe ill try a few different ones when i have favor

[hybrid schooner]

what u mean out of mana, are you holding down shatter strike and mana strike at the same time

[spare vessel]

whaaaat

i didnt know u can do that lmao

how can u do both same time??

[hybrid schooner]

bruh

put mana strike on right click

put shatter on a button

[spare vessel]

yeah i know how i can press them

i didnt know the game allows that

lol

[hybrid schooner]

ya

[spare vessel]

ty

[hybrid schooner]

only time i let off of shatter button is when i need to 100% make sure i have enough mana for teleport or flame shield

[spare vessel]

haha well that makes things much easier, i was doing shatter then mana to regen

although that made it a bit more challening, now its gonna be easy lol

[hybrid schooner]

yup

[spare vessel]

im gonnna keep this for when i have a reen lp2+ i guess

will use another one on gladiator for now

i got like 5 for slams that seem ok

[hybrid schooner]

frailty is fine, we can get on idols if we have to. dont need much just really important to have t4+ shred on weapon so u dont have to use a ammy or glove affix for it

[spare vessel]

yeah i have shred on the other sword for now

[hybrid schooner]

k

[spare vessel]

is Chill useful for abberoth?

[hybrid schooner]

nah. we have chill in our kit somewhere already anyways

[spare vessel]

ok, so i go for crit strike mult / frail / shred / stun / leech in that order for now i think, i have attack speed elsewhere i feel

cold pen?

havent thought of cold pen

[hybrid schooner]

cold pen would be nice but thats hardly prio

IMO attack speed on both

and either crit multi or flat

speed/flat/shred +speed/flat/frailty or stun is what i would to personally

even if speed wasnt the best scaler for our damage it scales everything else better anyways

blood nib stacks, ward on hit, shred

luckily its just the best damage scaler too

[spare vessel]

i tried to hold down both buttons, mana and shatter but it seems it only does one at a time

which seems logical to me, u sure u can be doing both the same time?

[hybrid schooner]

if mana strike is on mouse click ya

itll prio shatter until out of mana then prio manaS

wont do both actually at the same time itll just auto weave it for u

[spare vessel]

ahh ok that makes more sense

doing both sounded broken lol

[safe spoke]

So I’m building up this high crit mana strike proc meteor via harbinger of stars but I’m
Stuck at around 50% which is still launch a lot but I’d really like to get up to 100 or close. Suggestions or thoughts?

[left hill]

Celestial Precision node will crank your crit chance unless you're running down to 0/negative (in which case you're not going to get meteors even if you crit anyway, so no real issue)

[harsh abyss]

If you're doing that, then you could go for the node that makes your crits with mana strike not do extra damage but you get 40% base crit. Basically impossible to NOT crit cap with that one