#🧙┃mage

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stone rapids
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there's not a ton of reason to go past 1000 anyways other than personal challenge/bragging rights

sour trellis
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Shade gets hard around 2k for mages

scenic sail
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1900 was where my mage maxed out basically, but with the static orb nerfs I wouldn't be able to kill a shade so I dont think I'd be doing that again in v1.2

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The item drops at 4k corruption are so substantially better than they are at 1k corruption, then it is absolutely not about bragging rights. I wanted better gear and the higher experience is still noticeable if you can clear monos relatively quickly

sour trellis
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There’s also a reason to pass 1k … I’ve noticed one boss that drops 3 gloves at 1500 corruption compared to 1-2 gloves at 1k or lower

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Not sure why but he does

weary hamlet
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more like, other mana regen options on mage are ass

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tbh the state of mana strike and focus is downright shameful

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no fixes ofc

viral iris
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ugh im so confused on what i want me make for season 2

harsh abyss
scenic sail
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Well Focus is getting a new unique that could be good and Glacier is getting a helmet that could be good

stone rapids
viral iris
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someone helps me on a strong mage build for season 2 lol

weary hamlet
sour trellis
stone rapids
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it's all a balancing act depending on your build and obviously every build will be different

viral iris
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thanks King

weary hamlet
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having a channeled skill with a cooldown is enough of a drawback, no need to make us channel it for ages

scenic sail
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Yes, obviously your speed + damage + survivability matter at higher corruption, but my point is that it's certainly not about bragging rights. Whenever I would take newbies into 3k-4k corruption monos they would always be like, "holy shit this loot is insane" and that was the whole point of the higher corruption. It was even more noticeable while I was in CoF, the extra CoF perks just make T7 exalted items drop like 10+ times a mono

weary hamlet
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should just refill your mana to full over a fixed duration like 3 or 4 sec

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and have a utility-focused tree

sour trellis
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Also there are new items and upgrades .. some mages will be much stronger than others with the gear they upgrade compared to the same mage with lesser upgrades

viral iris
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i have a lvl 60 but really havnt had much time to look at all the gear and whats new

sour trellis
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What faction is everyone going with to start

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weary hamlet
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cof ofc as I hate the mg playstyle

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cant be bothered with price checking items and building a filter based on gold value

sour trellis
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Tbh I’ve never played mg but I envy those who buy lp3-4 items I need

viral iris
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cof is the fraction to do?

weary hamlet
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cof and mg are "loot factions" while knights and weaver are more like, mechanics/content factions

sour trellis
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So the weavers faction is new ? So it’s now 3 factions or you can choose weavers faction alone with cof ?

scenic sail
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I always recommend people start out in MG, if even for the initial learning experience of being in the faction while lots of players are playing. I think with the new features CoF will be much more powerful in v1.2, so eventually I'll go to CoF and level up there, but i strongly prefer playing MG. I prefer playing the game knowing that the items I find are actually going to be used by other human beings. MG is for the social people I guess.

weary hamlet
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there is no reason why both should be called similarly when they have very different functions but alas the devs find nothing confusing about it

scenic sail
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You can be in the weaver's faction, the only two factions that are exclusive to one another is the Merchants + Circle of Fortune.

viral iris
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lol i still have so much to learn. i am use to d2/d3 and d4

harsh abyss
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"Endgame factions" vs "Trade factions"

weary hamlet
sour trellis
scenic sail
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Yea, it's definitely confusing

viral iris
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so CoF then MG?

scenic sail
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I think the biggest bonus in v1.2 for CoF and Merchants guild is no more failed slams. This will help me more in CoF actually as you can just re-buy in merchants guild.

weary hamlet
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you pick one of the two and mostly stick with it

sour trellis
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Is everyone starting HC hero and if dies go cycle

viral iris
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aww okay

weary hamlet
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yea no more failed slams is more impactful for COF than MG but it's mostly a speed up/feels good fix, not a raw power level one

scenic sail
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I don't touch Hardcore, I think it's incredibly stupid and there are still lots of bugs and mysterious deaths in this game.

sour trellis
viral iris
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do you think Hydra would be a good thing?

scenic sail
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It's definitely going to be increasing the power level for everyone, now 1 LP unique items are actually very useful, so you don't need to grind as much in either faction.

sour trellis
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Well it’s good we can get t7 int slams on rings now .. I failed many slams last season

scenic sail
# sour trellis I have a lvl 91 hc hero I just deleted since new season about to start . Wasn’t ...

There are still reproducable bugs that can kill you though, I used to have multiple videos of Shade's poison spit not showing up at all and killing you (the 2nd time Shade does poison vomit attack I would get no visual effect for it), also Shade's blood orbs, same thing. The elemental novas from Osterix bird angel things had absolutely no visual indicator either, and characters like the burrowing snake lady could kill me from atleast half a screen away. I just don't see the appeal of playing Hardcore at all

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Yep, I've had 4 1 LP red rings in 2,600 hours of playing this game and all 4 of them have failed.

weary hamlet
sour trellis
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Hoping this season to get a nice lp3 ring

viral iris
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hey guys thanks for all your help i have to log off. looking forward to tomorrow for season 2

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gl ever and have a good day

weary hamlet
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tbh hardcore is a pretty dumb idea in LE at this point, and in the genre in general if you ask me

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same problem as hardcore PVP mmos; the higher punishment for death just leads you to avoiding fun

scenic sail
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Yep, it didn't make sense to me in D2 and it still makes no sense to me now. I would rather have a game mode where you lose an item when you die or something like that.

sour trellis
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Yeah I won’t be starting with a HC … just normal is fine at the end of the day

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I’m curious about static orb . Wonder if you have 2000 mana and can cast it 20+ times … I wonder with the right setup and skills you can just clear monos spamming static orb when you want

harsh abyss
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Yeah, it's gonna be a lot better at being a "generally useful" spell

sour trellis
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If you can get like 300k static orb dmg it could be possible

harsh abyss
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It's just less of an instant kill boss damage

sour trellis
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I’m definitely going to try and do something with static orb

weary hamlet
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like your average frostbite build used to run barrage for single target and orbiting orb for clear

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then frost claw happened

sour trellis
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Yeah I think this season will be months of trial and error

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Hopefully they keep the season for at least 6 months

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Don’t want a new cycle too quickly as I don’t play legacy

weary hamlet
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I even ran a meme build of static orb to build static charges for static via that node and it was fairly good.. for a meme build

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didnt go too far up the corruption as I couldnt be bothered to play the old patch

sour trellis
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I’ll make 2 hero this season . A mage and sentinel and get both to 100 and decide final mastery later with what items I have

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How long now until patch .. 30 hrs maybe

weary hamlet
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18 as of now

waxen scroll
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how is mage looking for late game farming?

weary hamlet
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fairly decent although some of the most op builds were nerfed

waxen scroll
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oh dang then haha 😄

weary hamlet
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old charlie aint going anywhere

waxen scroll
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Charlie?

waxen scroll
weary hamlet
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I'm sure it's just a coincidence

waxen scroll
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hahahhaa legit

uncut zealot
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you going autobomber RM to start?

harsh abyss
north carbon
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mages bro, is pure glacial mage still good?

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I really like it last league

chilly valley
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https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BrdgXLNA

Any can give feedback on this lightning fireball/meteor build? I'm not sure I have the correct tree for meteor and wasn't sure if the mana gen would be enough to sustain the meteor belt (Any other issues you see would be welcome feedback)

silk pewterBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Mage (27) / Sorcerer (64) / Spellblade (5) / Runemaster (17)

General:

▸ Health: 2,823, Regen: 30/s
▸ Mana: 305.62, Regen: 14.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 346%, Regen: 50/s
▸ Attributes: 14 Str / 1 Dex / 153 Int / 1 Att / 9 Vit
▸ Resistances: 99% / 75% / 99% / 81% / 74% / 109% / 83%
▸ EHP: 3,713 / 3,713 / 3,713 / 4,159 / 3,676 / 3,713 / 3,713

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 565
▸ Armor Mitigation: 29% (1,356)

Damage Types:

Lightning, Fire / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

Fireball (25)
Meteor (22)
Teleport (20)
Flame Ward (21)

harsh abyss
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Quick glance looks fine to me

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You're gonna be really relying on that twisted heart to keep your ward up

junior coral
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so is there no hope for mage outside of that deception builds that need gear u wont even have for afew months

harsh abyss
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There are plenty of fine builds

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IDK why people keep thinking there are zero viable mage builds

junior coral
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well i want OP gigachad stuff

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i dont realy do medium

harsh abyss
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There are a few new uniques that will enable new builds. Mana Guide might be totally crazy

mystic wave
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guys i need a lightning blast build, i think the new passives and rework looks cute and i want to try it

harsh abyss
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yeah

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I don't want to recommend my LB build to anyone because I'm not sure it's going to be good, heh

plain garnet
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Does Glamdring on FC care if it's typed melee damage? Like, does it add generic spell damage to FC if I have "+5 melee damage" somewhere, or does it need to be melee fire damage, melee void damage, etc

harsh abyss
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I'm starting it, yeah

mystic wave
harsh abyss
harsh abyss
fading snow
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https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B7Zv4LmQ I make no apologies, this is the perfect LB build, new meta, gonna get hotfix nerfed, etc. You have to make sure to include the non-synergistic LL legendaries that I threw in 'cause I'm gonna figure it out in game and the 220% potion health converted to ward 😉

silk pewterBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (16) / Spellblade (57) / Runemaster (18)

General:

▸ Health: 1,575, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 151.52, Regen: 11.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 384%, Regen: 160/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 3 Dex / 150 Int / 3 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 42% / 58% / 42% / 0% / 0% / 4% / 44%
▸ EHP: 1,358 / 1,543 / 1,358 / 1,071 / 1,032 / 1,056 / 1,378

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 315
▸ Armor Mitigation: 11% (303)

Damage Types:

Lightning, Fire / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

Lightning Blast (25)
Static (21)
Surge (20)
Mana Strike (20)
Flame Ward (21)

fading snow
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oh oops, thats actually the wrong version, imagine there's a semi-competently built frost wall tree in there instead of mana strike

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the mana strike is "break glass in case of OOM emergency"

harsh abyss
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lol

uncut zealot
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feel like that build will be fine until like 200-300 corruption

harsh abyss
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We'll see how it goes. If it drops off, I have a couple backups that'll be easy enough to swap to

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Last time it was playable, corruption scaling was totally different, so 🤷‍♀️

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And like I said, don't want to recommend it to anyone until I play it again

fair hearth
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Does it count as "passing through my frost wall" if i place it on top of myself?

harsh abyss
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I think you have to move to trigger it

digital shadow
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sorry if its overasked but is stygian coal lich still good for new patch? did it get hit at all with nerfs

harsh abyss
digital shadow
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opp sorry

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ty

fair hearth
plain garnet
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Does the Frozen Sparks node on the Enchant Weapon tree interact with Glamdring for FC in a meaningful way

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Or is Frozen Sparks still bugged and worthless

harsh abyss
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Worthless. It only triggers off physical damage, which weapons don't have any more unless you have a specific affix that adds flat physical damage

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which you obviously don't want because you're a mage that doesn't have physical damage scaling

plain garnet
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That's so tragic, why would they not fix that lol

harsh abyss
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It's an artifact from when weapon implicits were all phys damage by default

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Probably just low priority tbh

plain garnet
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It seems like a really easy fix

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It would be very impactful for my specific build, adding ~9 flat spell damage to FC for me

harsh abyss
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That's not very much, unless you aren't getting very much flat damage from other sources.

plain garnet
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Actually it's technically +18? +9 cold, +9 lightning.

harsh abyss
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Do you have 90 flat phys somewhere?

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Or just 90 flat melee in general

plain garnet
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Essence Weaver, which has 94

harsh abyss
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Ahh yeah

plain garnet
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It's a free point for me, I'd just take one out of +5 cold melee damage

harsh abyss
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yeah

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I mostly wish Glamdring inherited melee flat damage from the skill that triggered it. That way i could stack flat melee damage with mana using Mana Strike to get like 300 flat damage 😝

plain garnet
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That would be absurd

harsh abyss
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Yeah but it would be so cool

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No more jank than the brand of deception build

plain garnet
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I'm so excited to try this proc build, I'm gonna fill the screen with so much shit

harsh abyss
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Interestingly, I think you could do a build that works better with the buffed Battlemage's Endeavor. With a good roll and 4 aps, you're triggering 3 LB's per second, with no cap. And that's pretty easy to reach, so you might be able to get up to get up to 5-6 aps to trigger even more of them. And that's not counting the FCs that you'd be triggering as well

plain garnet
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That's amusing.

harsh abyss
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75% chance to trigger LB with no cap is pretty legit

plain garnet
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Yeah I didn't even consider that.

harsh abyss
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I was talking with someone about doing a Focal Blast version of LB with it, so you're shooting out cold beams super fast

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And you just use mana strike to proc them

plain garnet
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Essence Weaver is capped to 9 every 3 sec, but each spell is individually massively buffed by the stats on the spear

harsh abyss
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Yeah

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Tripled stats are pretty insane

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Plus you're presumably speccing frost claw for multiple hits, so what, 270 flat damage from Glamdring, plus 150 more from the weapon itself?

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Gonna be bonkers

plain garnet
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Yep

harsh abyss
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FC is SO much better than the other triggerable spells, it's nuts

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But also, you're probably actually only getting 3 casts per 3 seconds, on average since it randoms amongst all of them

plain garnet
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Sure, it's an average

harsh abyss
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So the triple stats just brings you up to "effectively" 9 casts of the spell you want, on average

plain garnet
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Still, a max rolled essence weaver with no mods adds 492 flat damage to a proc of FC

harsh abyss
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lol

plain garnet
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No weaver mods, I mean

harsh abyss
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yeah

plain garnet
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Imagine T7 flat lightning damage + T7 crit multi

harsh abyss
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Yeah

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Insane

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Wouldn't surprise me if that ended up as one of the top builds

plain garnet
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Needs very specific weaver rolls on the spear to maximize it, but it sounds fun.

harsh abyss
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Yeah, always kind of rough to build around weaver gear

plain garnet
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There's a bunch of rolls on it that are all fine, and a bunch of dead rolls

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tripled T7 armor shred? Each of the spells having a 1920% armor shred chance lol

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Tag a boss once and remove all of his armor

proven haven
uncut zealot
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Level as spell blade then swap into it when you get man’s guide?

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Mana

harsh abyss
plain garnet
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Spear can't roll frostbite chance, but can roll ignite chance

harsh abyss
plain garnet
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Runemaster only, sadly

harsh abyss
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Negative, it's before the chain

plain garnet
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Needs a 7 point bonus, doesn't it?

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Hmmm

harsh abyss
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Yeah but you can put 10 points in it if you want

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the node just needs to be before the chain

plain garnet
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That's.. really amusing, actually. If I ever come across an essence weaver that rolls a fat armor shred chance I could try that

harsh abyss
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Yeah, it would be pretty insane actually

plain garnet
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The spear itself has up to 194% just on the item lol

harsh abyss
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Yeah, even without the tripling, the frostbite chance from it would be pretty significant

plain garnet
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A single proc of FC with a T7 armor shred roll and that node would add 105 frostbite stacks to an enemy, ignoring all other gear and passives

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That's.. kind of disgusting, actually

harsh abyss
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lol

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Yep, that's a lot

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And armor shred has huge rolls on other gear, too

plain garnet
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Tragically, though, that only works for FC. It only adds the frostbite chance to cold spells, of which smite and storm bolt are not

harsh abyss
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Yeah, but that's all you really care about, with all the extra hits from FC and all the FC casts you'll be proccing just off the melee attacks

plain garnet
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Would still be worth it, probably.

harsh abyss
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Assuming you're at the 3aps "cap" for weaver, which is obviously low, you're gonna be proccing regular FC 1.5x per second in addition to the weaver procs

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And that just gets better the faster you attack

plain garnet
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Yeah 3 APS is a low bar. It's very possible with mana strike to get up to ~5, but 4ish is more realistic

harsh abyss
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yeah

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I was doing a bit of quick math with battlemage's earlier, if you get T7 attack speed on a 2H weapon, it's basically 3aps with no other attack speed.

plain garnet
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I am actually considering Falcon Fists if I find a well-rolled 2LP one. Ignoring the other stats, 27% attack speed and 27 flat fire is a lot.

harsh abyss
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Yeah, falcon fists is BIS for any melee attacker that might want crits

plain garnet
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Also pretty low level so it's possible to get a 3LP one

harsh abyss
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Yeah

uncut zealot
# proven haven yes

Level as glacier into spell blade shattered strike and respec when we get mana guide? Or how do you plan on leveling

proven haven
uncut zealot
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Of course you are. You the mvp

proven haven
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of a leveling setup

uncut zealot
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I’ll check it tomorrow before launch. Will video be uploaded and watchable prior to launch?

proven haven
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trying

harsh abyss
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No enjoy launch, only upload video

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It is the content creator way

azure loom
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Or really exactly 70 provided I have guide/cleaver solution. If the latter is taking a while I might just try int stack with it first before swapping

proven haven
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brand feels pretty good on my level ~58 character

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but yeah you can delay

azure loom
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Yeah for RM brand that vid was looking real nice

harsh abyss
idle shard
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I've never seen anyone beat 1000 corruption with as a core skill

scenic sail
# chilly valley https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BrdgXLNA Any can give feedback on this l...

The general idea here is very good and a super fun build, but Harbinger of Stars almost requires you to have 900 mana, which you can quite easily get as a sorcerer, just start with 5/5 points in the Mana Pool passive and prefably all 4 of your idols being "Stronghold" for the 8-12% mana on them. Also you'll find these items with more than 2 LP quite often, maschinations and Harbinger of Stars are easy to find at 3 LP, so you'll get more affixes on here. I always recommend a Confluence of Fate when you're able to equip it, because it'll add a large amount of flat spell damage to each of your fireball and meteor hits. Also if you're going for a Lightning focused build, I think Stormcarved Testament is probably going to be better for you than Twisted Heart simply for the +12% lightning penetration.

scenic sail
# idle shard I've never seen anyone beat 1000 corruption with as a core skill

I've certainly completed a few monos with volcanic orb but I was using it in addition to Glacier and Meteor and it was more suited for like 1,500 corruption. But I believe someone just posted a video of like 850 corruption volcanic orb today in this channel or in the general chat. It's certainly been used close to 1k corruption but it's not a super amazing skill or anything. I would say it's okay amongst mage skills. I'll certainly give it another try in v1.2, along with all the other skills.

night siren
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yo guys how bad will mage be? 😄 i dont see a lot of good builds for us 😦

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in all videos i see no mage mentioned 😄

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unreal blade
austere heath
open vapor
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I'm a little curios cooking a sorc with damage dealt to mana before health and using something like mana strike to generate a lot of mana and using that as a defence. No clue how to scale it offensively though, anybody with tips or even a decent build planner for something similar?

harsh abyss
night siren
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yeah thats what i thought..

harsh abyss
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Also a few builds didn't get nerfed that were some big flashy builds on other characters. Tornado werebear is super popular because a lot of people expected it to get the nerf bat but it arguably got buffed

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I don't think anyone has pushed a mage build with that level of popularity lately, so not a lot of folks excited for mage stuff

night siren
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yeah 😦

harsh abyss
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There are dozens of us league starting mage 😝

night siren
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which build will you guys play?

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i just saw a heartseeker video holy it looks so good 😄 but i play mage usually.. so i want to play mage again i guess

harsh abyss
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Some new/buffed uniques are looking super spicy for mage, too.
-Mana guide probably has 2-3 builds around it
-Battlemage's Endeavor got buffed and might be real strong
-Essence Weaver looks HELLA spicy
-Gordian Prism has a build that looks interesting

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I'm personally planning to play a channeled, low-mana lightning blast build that got bugfixed and should be pretty strong. If it doesn't work like I want, I'll probably swap to a Gordian Prism + Ele Nova build

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I also have a couple other silly concepts in the wings, mana stacking Mana Guide seems like it should be strong by default

night siren
harsh abyss
silk pewterBOT
harsh abyss
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There are a lot of new uniques and improvements to the build since then, my current (very rough) build planner is: ~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A8dXwWgA

I don't want to recommend the build to anyone until I play it myself, but it's pretty starter friendly. No uniques required to get going, comes online earlyish in the campaign, scales pretty decently, etc. I'm also not a real "content creator" though, so 🤷‍♀️

rapid hinge
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man why do they need to make gordian prism an offhand

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if it was an amulet or something

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reowyn + gordian would be interesting

harsh abyss
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Yeah, that's probably why they made it one, heh

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It's low level though, so hopefully easy to get 2-3LP on

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And, that paired with the buffed ele nova will probably be fun.

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Big AOE kabooms

open vapor
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Speaking of runic invocation, is plasma orb runemaster still solid or has it gotten heavily nerfed since release?

harsh abyss
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I don't think it's seen significant nerfs

open vapor
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Thanks, haven't seen anyone speak about it and was unsure if it was due to it being worse nowadays or just that it hasn't changed and is a pain to gear since you NEED 2 red rings and dodge in most suffixes

harsh abyss
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Yeah, I think it's just fallen out of favor because Runemaster got nerfed in general

open vapor
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makes sense

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liked the playstyle though so will definitely at least try it out

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prob not op though, just decent

harsh abyss
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's why people aren't as hyped about mage

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A lot of builds that aren't op, but decent. People are looking for the new opness

open vapor
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100%

harsh abyss
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And there are known builds that are op that avoided nerfs

open vapor
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Snap has convinced me spellblade is looking good with a promised 100-150m dps but most mage players probably don't wanna play melee so I understand if that's not an option for most mages

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Personally gonna try it out though, only spec I haven't tried yet

harsh abyss
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I think there are probably a few stupid good spellblade builds using things like Essence Weaver and the new Battlemages Endeavor

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I'm kinda loosely considering a Battlemage's build, since it has no cap on lightning blasts per second

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Max attack speed into Convergence Lightning Blast might be legit

open vapor
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hm, haven't seen that one, mind sending me a link to a planner 😅 Sounds interesting

harsh abyss
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I haven't actually put it together yet, gimme a couple mins

open vapor
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oh, thought it was a done build xD

harsh abyss
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Nah, prior to this patch, Battlemage's Endeavor sucked

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But 75% chance to proc LB on hit is pretty good

inner oriole
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careful with following a team player Spellblade build exactly
snap would have a different priority on ward/defenses/flat damage since he gets so much from his teammates

tame sun
silk pewterBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Mage (26) / Sorcerer (5) / Spellblade (58) / Runemaster (24)

General:

▸ Health: 2,704, Regen: 22.8/s
▸ Mana: 175.84, Regen: 10.72/s
▸ Ward Retention: 346%, Regen: 248/s
▸ Attributes: 43 Str / 11 Dex / 161 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 84% / 92% / 78% / 70% / 73% / 71% / 68%
▸ EHP: 4,988 / 4,988 / 4,988 / 5,897 / 4,891 / 4,796 / 4,662

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 43%, Threshold: 541
▸ Dodge Chance: 7% (225)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 45% (2,638)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 105%

Damage Types:

Lightning / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

Surge (21)
Static (21)
Flame Ward (21)
Mana Strike (21)
Frost Wall (21)

harsh abyss
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Surge + Static got hella nerfed, fyi

open vapor
tame sun
harsh abyss
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Yeah, Power Surge (200 flat damage on static) only works on direct casts now

rough garnet
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is non melee/spellblade mage dead? seems to be like its going to be the least played class in 1.2

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dead probably exaggerating but it doesnt look too good for someone who likes actual mage range gameplay xD

eager wharf
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Hello, what are some good sources for flat health regen in vessel of strife builds?

inner oriole
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Theres plenty of ranged mage builds still perfectly fine

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Most only saw the ward nerfs and only a few were deleted due to spark charge change

weary hamlet
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although it's been on my list of meme builds to try since the reveal

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somewhere down at the bottom

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of the flip side

harsh abyss
harsh abyss
eager wharf
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i'll check those out, thanks!

weary hamlet
eager wharf
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I was thinking there's a health regen unique I might be missing, but stacking some regular affixes seems good

harsh abyss
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Well, you're going to either be using Shattered Lance or Vessel for your relic, so you can probably choose a T7 affix to prioritize on either of those

eager wharf
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are you gonna try out the gordian prism build Zerax?

harsh abyss
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Yep, Gordian prism is on my short list

eager wharf
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ah cool! I might do one too later on

harsh abyss
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Crossing my fingers I can get one while leveling

eager wharf
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heh, that'd be nice

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I tested the aoe some time ago, just stacked some bonuses from idols and passives and it really is huge

open vapor
harsh abyss
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15% current mana for flat damage as mana strike, 10% current mana as flat crit chance for mana strike. You keep yourself at 1000+ mana and you've got 100% crit chance. At that current level of mana in the planner, you're looking at +225 flat melee damage for mana strike, which should make it do decent damage by itself.

And you've got a BIT of damage to mana before health, so you need to keep up with your triggered spell costs and that defense, so mana strike is the obvious choice. I'm not a spellblade because the main things I lose from the last half of the spellblade tree are 8% attack speed and flat crit from prodigy, which I don't need for the most part.

half pollen
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No more multipliers on mana strike kills it for damage use.

harsh abyss
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Yeah, but enough flat damage makes it functional as a part of your spell triggering focus

weary hamlet
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mage players be like: EHG plox no more mana strike
EHG: no more for mana strike you say?

half pollen
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And its 100% damage effectiveness

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So a wet noodle with 220 attack

harsh abyss
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Plus, guaranteed crit means your opportunity cost for using it and scaling crit multi is zero

weary hamlet
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straight from the authors of, doing zero DPS with flame reave at 500 flat

harsh abyss
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Since you want crit multi for everything else you do anyway

half pollen
harsh abyss
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I'm not 100% sure it will be good, but it was something I was thinking about and putting together a planner is pretty quick (and I've got nothing else to do right now)

half pollen
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I wish you could play mana strike for damage by sacrifizing the Mana gain but the nodes are just not there

harsh abyss
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The other concept I had did the same thing but used Shattered Lance for a crazy amount of Increased damage, but Shattered Lance is a bit too much to try and force in on Mage IMO

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and mana stacking + lance stacking with the same gear would be a nightmare to drop/roll, so that's definitely not on the "early season" list

tame sun
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ok frostwall+surge lightning blast procs seems like a fine pivot from static. complete automation with chain lightning and detonations.

harsh abyss
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The main concept of the battlemage build is a LB delivery system with as much attack speed as possible since there's no cap on the number of LB's it casts per second. It outpaces Dragorath's Claw at 4 aps as far as average LB's per second

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It also has a SUPER low legendary potential effective level, so getting a 2-3LP one shouldn't be too bad.

half pollen
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The hard part about battlemages is that it somehow needs to be better than directly casting lightning blasts

harsh abyss
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Well, if you get down to it, you're simultaneously casting LB, FC, and Mana Strike (+ mana arc and maybe spark charges), so there's some bonus effeciveness because of all the triggers you're throwing out at once.

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Sure you can get LB up to 3 casts per second, or higher. But can you ALSO get FC up to 2 casts per second at the same time?

Plus with all the crits you're throwing out with this build, you're probably proccing a BUNCH of spark novas using Distant Spark

weary hamlet
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but those builds were heavily hit with the nerfs to ward rings

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I doubt they will be particularly good anymore

harsh abyss
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That's another reason to go Sorcerer instead of spellblade. With a bit of "damage to mana before health" on top of a huge amount of ward threshold from Arcane Insight + Arcane Warden, and the normal Shattered Aegis, you should be tankier than a spellblade.

weary hamlet
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you can still stack plenty of that on sb, although getting a very high mana pool is going to be more of an issue

harsh abyss
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Yeah, Sorc has a lot of extra mana

weary hamlet
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but you don't really need it if you are spamming mana strike most of the time

harsh abyss
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you also get 20% damage to mana for "free" from sorc

weary hamlet
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we were discussing this a couple of days before and you can get like 55% damage to mana on SB without resorting to chest and helm affixes

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10 points isn't very free

harsh abyss
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It also comes with 40 flat mana though, so it's points well spent

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I'd like to find a way to scale LB or FC damage with mana somehow, but I don't think it exists

weary hamlet
#

the forbidden tech

harsh abyss
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lol

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Forbidden because it sucks 👍

half pollen
#

I play things that suck when they are fun

harsh abyss
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Staffs can't roll attack speed, so it's also not very fun (for this build at least)

normal hazel
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ok Mage Mains. I need some guidance. Is the MaxRoll leveling guide fine to lvl with. And how gear intensive is the Hydrahedron Runemaster?

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everything feels slow to lvl after playing sent haha

next lance
#

Most mages level with Glacier to my knowledge

harsh abyss
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I think as long as you have the Box of Hydrae, you can play hyrdahedron

next lance
#

Unless something changed in the patchnotes

harsh abyss
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Other than that, I don't think you require any specific uniques for it to be decent

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You can also level with Fireball or Ele Nova, both work well in my experience.

weary hamlet
harsh abyss
weary hamlet
#

its like that time when somebody asked Mark Rosewater why there are so many shitty cards in MTG. And he said more or less "for new players to have a learning experience" (when they realize that they suck)

weary hamlet
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like that time when I spent a week farming gear for my reowyns CCC invo build was the suck suck

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cause it still did like zero dmage

harsh abyss
weary hamlet
weary hamlet
harsh abyss
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Yeah, but at least they dont want there to be bad things.

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Having intentionally bad things as noob traps is terrible design

weary hamlet
#

yea at least there is that

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but waiting four years for the spark nova fix was rough man

half pollen
harsh abyss
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Yeah, definitely. I'm hoping that will be a thing of the past though, the team is growing and they're getting more resources that can do fixes and improvements

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Hopefully in future seasons we wont need 10 pages of bug fixes in the patch notes.

half pollen
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I think its kinda important to have bad or out of place stuff. When everything is created with a build in mind there wont be room for creativity

harsh abyss
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I don't think those two statements are necessarily related

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Out of place and bad are two totally different things in my mind

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I feel like any unique is developed from a "wouldn't it be cool if" scenario, and from there when there is a huge amount of variability in the game, things can often be used for unintended purposes.

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But none of that means something has to be inherently bad. It's the difference between "This is bad for what I'm doing" and "This has zero functional use anywhere"

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Players, especially new players, can mess up their builds by doing non-optimal things without there being things that serve zero purpose other than to specifically trick them.

normal hazel
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lvl 36 random drop. Maybe ill get lucky haha

sharp quest
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groleshades Gonna be my first league experience and cant wait to play a mage (I have no clue how mages work in this game but I always play them in ARPGs)

weary hamlet
ruby flax
versed zinc
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is the mages tree of "when you use a lightning spell cast X at nearby" a bait or is this stuff good
im on the line between playing some kind of mana stacker vs some kind ofprimalist

weary hamlet
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giga bait, its a bad subskill with very long cooldown

versed zinc
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same for the fire and cold ones?

weary hamlet
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yea

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the cold one in sorc at least freezes but its still a bad deal for your points

sour trellis
#

Anyone think they worked out a build for Uber aberoth for season 2

weary hamlet
#

go disintegrate or go home

tawdry wren
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Are they any awesome Mage builds for this season? Seems Mage didnt get too much love or atleat not showing up on the top tier lists for today

fervent ledge
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Can spell blade be tanky?

weary hamlet
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then again, all classes have builds that are "tanky", that's like the baseline assumption in this game

fervent ledge
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Mana guide one lb per sec looks ehhhh

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Maybe it will good but dunno man

fervent ledge
normal hazel
open vapor
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What makes mana guide any good? To me it seems better to just manually cast lb and not have to deal with reduced speed & armor

weary hamlet
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focus got a ton of defensive nodes in it and you can stack more on top of that, like from channeling related nodes in RM

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think of it as of ole ghostflame - mediocre damage at best, very high defenses, zoom zoom

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also you can spec focus to deal some damage itself

inner oriole
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casting lightning blast makes you stand still for a brief moment
focus makes you tankier and you can still move

haughty sleet
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Any cool runemaster build for s2?

errant moon
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anyone has a build for dex stacking frost claw ?

night siren
fervent ledge
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How many times a second does brand of deception tick for

errant moon
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well seems noone had one so i made one

empty hawk
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There is one

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Looks funky

errant moon
empty hawk
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Ah i meant a different build

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I think claw is jover

errant moon
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ah okay

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nothing much changed for claw its like 2-3 more mana cost then it was

weary hamlet
waxen scroll
half pollen
#

Glacier is pretty cool

haughty sleet
weary hamlet
weary hamlet
waxen scroll
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How is shatter blade for speed / Aoe clear?

fervent ledge
#

There is a regular int based simple looking brand build which looks way easier to start once after campaign maybe lvl 70

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Maybe I'll try that but doesn't look that great compared to other classes

little wasp
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spellblade get any buffs?

weary hamlet
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got some last patch, not much this time around

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got a minor buff to flame reave lol

nocturne hamlet
# little wasp spellblade get any buffs?

Depend of how many time you didn't play
i didn't make S1 and just some new sword are really good for him since i didn't play for exemple, but i don't know for this patch

maiden willow
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I really like the playstyle of the "cascade" fireball sorcerer build on maxroll : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXCvU-j9Ows&t=1s but I'm a bit worried by the rankings/downsides. How much of a struggle is it going to be ? Is it perhaps worth as an alt with some gear carried over from a stronger main ? Can it still do Harbingers fine otherwise? Alternatively, are there any stronger builds that look similar (pew pew) ?

weary hamlet
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not sure why you call that cascade, that's just the regular fireball

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it's a fine build, not uber broken or anything, but Im sure you'll be able to do anything with it at adequate gear levels

tender wolf
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Does spellblade get as tanky as a Void Knight if you get to Exsang + Last steps of the living and T7 experimental on gloves? Idk how much ward people get from that nowadays at around 3-4k hp

harsh abyss
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Usually last steps + exang builds are extra tanky because their class has a "less damage taken while on low life", which mage doesn't have

tender wolf
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True, we do get like 25% less damage taken from chilled + arcane shielding tho

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but idk if that's comparable

harsh abyss
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Yeah, though we don't need low life tech to get those, and we have access to a lot of ward

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I have a feeling the tankiest builds are going to be a ward + leech + a portion of damage taken to mana before health combo

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All those together layers a lot of defense and recovery

tender wolf
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Can you leech onto ward somehow?

scenic sail
fervent ledge
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Is that gon rune for more ward gen good. Gear affix

harsh abyss
harsh abyss
fervent ledge
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Nice

harsh abyss
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IF you're using gon runes

fervent ledge
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I see a brand build were he always has three

harsh abyss
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I've always been all lightning all the time, so it's been a staple for me since RM came out

fervent ledge
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And uses that affix

harsh abyss
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Yeah, with T7 on chest and helm and 3 gon runes, it's like 500 ward/sec.

tender wolf
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or do you know how much ward the builds sit at

harsh abyss
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Not that one specifically, nope

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We also don't know exactly because the ward nerf to int

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And yeah I wouldn't pair it with shatter strike. The low life ward builds aren't bad for sure

tender wolf
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Ah you cant use bloody nib with the exsang setup either i forgot 😭

rapid hinge
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hmm has anybody looked at fireball yet

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hit fireball got a pretty huge buff

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i didnt realized until i read about mage today

upbeat shell
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did shatter strike get any changes?

harsh abyss
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Not really

tender wolf
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Culls enemies below 10% hp if they are frozen

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but youd need to invest in freeze ig

harsh abyss
rapid hinge
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ala bunches of more damage node now

harsh abyss
#

ahh interesting

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Fireball was already pretty good, especially for leveling.

rapid hinge
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even before this change, flameburst has already contribute like 60% of DPS for hit fireball build

upbeat shell
tender wolf
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I think it's popular enough

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but yeah nothing cool, champion affixes arent real

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guess scissor of atropos also is a slight buff to shatter strike on the high end since a well rolled one is better than a crystal sword

shut moon
fervent ledge
silk pewterBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (25) / Spellblade (5) / Runemaster (63)

Damage Types:

Lightning / Spell, DoT

Used skills:

Lightning Blast (20)
Static Orb (20)
Frost Wall (20)
Teleport (20)
Flame Ward (20)

harsh abyss
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Brand of Deception seems like it's going to be very popular this season

weary hamlet
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the djinn is out of the bottle

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it was virtually unknown last season

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but it got a bit of coverage

fervent ledge
#

Yeah cause they nerfed the other good stuff now lol

hearty pewter
#

Any decent loot filters kicking about

weary hamlet
obsidian quarry
tight bloom
#

does black hole tick rate scales with cast speed?

rapid hinge
#

not DPS

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and it scales very hard off shock

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and fundamental criterion

fervent ledge
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Everyone gonna be sentinel and hearseeker so that's good that mages get at least something. I wonder how behind it will be tho compared to like rogue probably still doing 2k corruption

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Like other classes doing 10mill dps I doubt brand does this

weary hamlet
obsidian quarry
weary hamlet
obsidian quarry
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but why does it scale with fundamental? is it an invocation?

waxen scroll
#

Shatter strike still seems strong no?

weary hamlet
#

see where this is going?

weary hamlet
waxen scroll
weary hamlet
waxen scroll
#

Aaaah that Way - also assume SB is the best “pathway” or ascendency what ever its called in LE

weary hamlet
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its "mastery" here

waxen scroll
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Thanks mate!

weary hamlet
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no

waxen scroll
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But yeah I assume sb is looking to be the best mastery?

rapid hinge
#

i always thought brand does way more damage than it should

sharp quest
weary hamlet
rapid hinge
#

30m damage per ticks def does not check out the math

weary hamlet
obsidian quarry
rapid hinge
waxen scroll
rapid hinge
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and the damage didnt make sense back then

weary hamlet
#

try like frost claw frostbite or something

#

must still be good right?

waxen scroll
#

Ooooh thanks haha and Got ya 😂😂👍

fervent ledge
#

That new store armor looks like it fits mage perfectly.

buoyant dove
#

are the servers on ?

weary hamlet
#

my plan for mage builds this season:

  • disintegrate (x4)
  • essence weaver proc sb
  • channeled LB
  • focal blast with spark nova
  • lightning fireball
  • ignite glyph
weary hamlet
harsh abyss
#

14 mins

weary hamlet
#

also clotho's needle looks neat with firebrand/reave although reave is gonna have fu ck all base with it

fervent ledge
#

I'm at work damn

obsidian quarry
#

do we have to do anything with steam to trigger the download?

harsh abyss
#

You might have to restart it

weary hamlet
#

will likely want to restart steam to force it

scarlet sinew
#

is the download live?

weary hamlet
#

no

scarlet sinew
#

ah okay

half pollen
weary hamlet
#

well it should inherit the more modifiers

#

its a subskill

#

so uh about 180 x 36 x 36 x 100

obsidian quarry
weary hamlet
half pollen
#

They normally do unless bugged

harsh abyss
#

It won't inherit Shattershock because of the "damage against X" doesn't inherit

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conditional damage doesn't go to subskills

weary hamlet
harsh abyss
#

sorry to kill your meme dreams

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That's why shattershock is the last on my list for my channeled LB nodes

half pollen
#

Focal blast sounds so strong on paper but it never delivered for me

weary hamlet
#

still gonna be playable I guess but I felt that right in da wiener

weary hamlet
#

convergence = 400% more vs single target

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and with focal you dont have stellar options for a single target skill

half pollen
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Yeah, but a scalable 30% more multiplier sounds super strong at first

weary hamlet
#

idk barrage?

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volcanic orb?

harsh abyss
#

Don't forget that LB got 2 extra "Free" chains, so with all the chain node you have 10 instead of 8

weary hamlet
#

at that point you can just focus on either of those instead

harsh abyss
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And there's the belt for a 35% chance for 4 extra chains

half pollen
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The only interesting thing was that focal blast made it aoe and you could abuse the runemaster aoe passive, but thats dead now aswell

harsh abyss
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I've always lamented that focal blast is behind the cold conversion. Lightning focal blast would be cool

weary hamlet
#

pepega

harsh abyss
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Yeah, the more chains you get, the more convergence pulls ahead

weary hamlet
harsh abyss
#

You only get the ward on direct casts now

weary hamlet
#

yea that shouldnt be an issue for focal blast right?

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we are mostly self casting it

lilac kayak
#

How is Shatter Strike Spellblade?

weary hamlet
#

although..

harsh abyss
half pollen
#

Oh, I thought it got the procs per second treatment, my bad

half pollen
full bluff
#

Lightning blast for single target + elemental nova for aoe. Using spark charges on both. Should still be pretty good

harsh abyss
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I mean it's still only 2 ward per rune per point instead of what was it 20?

weary hamlet
harsh abyss
full bluff
#

I think I had it outperforming frost claw at some point

half pollen
#

The big question is why focal when there is convergence and the only answer is mana kinda

weary hamlet
#

frost claw used to also give you free ward outta the ass

harsh abyss
weary hamlet
#

but then what are you gonna use for single target in your build?

obsidian quarry
#

download up

weary hamlet
#

noice the speed isnt even half bad with the vpn, though I might have to leave y'all

obtuse tendon
#

80mb/s leeeessgo

blazing fulcrum
#

PLAYING ELON MUSK BUILD

half pollen
harsh abyss
#

IS that the one where you never get to town because you die?

weary hamlet
#

his gear was too low level

half pollen
#

im gonna use a lvl 30 amulet on my kickflip runemaster

harsh abyss
#

My meetings start in half an hour 😢

weary hamlet
#

rip mate but fortunately its 7 pm over here

#

not feeling well lads might be calling in sick tomorrow

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folks on reddit already having the le cinquante cinq erreur

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looks promising!

plain garnet
#

I can't even finish the download, it's just stuck at like 50%

full bluff
#

I got in after 1 min clicking the button

obsidian quarry
obtuse tendon
#

eRROR le52

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RIP

plain garnet
#

This was to be expected tbh, the hype for this release was incredible because the latest PoE2 season flopped

blazing fulcrum
#

no online play?

weary hamlet
#

I wonder how many concurrent it's gonna hit, 150k?

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but hopefully the falloff will be a lot less with the weavers mechanics

obtuse tendon
plain garnet
#

I have a fantastic connection and mine still won't finish downloading

obtuse tendon
#

you're not missing much anyway

plain garnet
#

Yeah, I'm in no rush.

blazing fulcrum
#

LE 52 all?

weary hamlet
#

oh its up to 70 at peask

boreal crow
#

56 mbps here... still downloading. -.-

weary hamlet
#

peaks

half pollen
obtuse tendon
harsh abyss
#

Nature is healing

obtuse tendon
#

I feel like i'm still at work, trying to deal with a 3rd party who handle mantenance and i'm waiting for my ticket to be worked on

half pollen
#

I dont want to heal, I want to destroooy

boreal crow
harsh abyss
#

Almost like there is no company that can handle when hundreds of thousands of people try and log in at once

boreal crow
stuck widget
half pollen
obsidian quarry
obtuse tendon
#

well one thing is sure, that's not me kekw

half pollen
#

im not more people though

harsh abyss
#

I am!

obtuse tendon
#

Haxxed

harsh abyss
#

Time to go prep for my meeting though, RIP

half pollen
rain badger
#

LETS GO, ONLINE WORKING

harsh abyss
obtuse tendon
#

US privilege

#

Make europe great again

half pollen
#

maaan, EU probably getting the short end of the stick

#

tarifs on last epoch servers

#

I KNEW IT

obsidian quarry
#

more EU people ready to play

obtuse tendon
#

Trying to join the enemy into us west server

weary hamlet
#

online play unavailable on eu let's go

obtuse tendon
#

🥷

weary hamlet
#

might switch to aus

#

300 ping ftw

half pollen
#

can I play my chars on us west?

obsidian quarry
#

pretty sure you can switch once you are past login

#

but my attempts at other servers arent working any better

obtuse tendon
#

Yup didnt work

#

probably got caught by border controls

#

They asked me what football was, thats how they caught me

#

If anyone wanna pass time, See tv show is great to watch

half pollen
#

I prefer pressing a button and looking at a web, thank you

sullen storm
#

I should probably pass time by finishing my work for the day early

obtuse tendon
#

Currently trying to break a deal with Tzeentch

weary hamlet
#

RIP MATES the LB cosmetic does not recolor cold converted spark nova

half pollen
#

anyone from EU already in?

boreal crow
#

Nope...

half pollen
obsidian quarry
#

just by spam clicking

obtuse tendon
#

Been spam clicking for a while

north carbon
#

what mage build are you guys running? last time to change idea

obtuse tendon
#

dont seem to help

obsidian quarry
#

up tp 82k so far

obtuse tendon
#

Connection build, 5 points into improve MS, 5 points into fast download

north carbon
#

I was thinking in fure glacial but everything looks cool

weary hamlet
#

250ms to us yikes looks like I'll have to turn off the cloudflare

boreal crow
obtuse tendon
#

Finding other way to enjoy my time

dim vessel
#

can log in now..

harsh abyss
#

Man, gamers are such whiners

obtuse tendon
#

People in general tbh

sullen storm
#

Guys just reset steam

#

I'm in

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Just close the game and steam reopen and try again

obtuse tendon
#

What time is it for Us people?

sullen storm
#

11:30 am central time

obtuse tendon
#

Dang so some people might have took actual day off

harsh abyss
#

they can survive for half an hour

obtuse tendon
#

They all can, never take a day off

boreal crow
#

Mee...

obtuse tendon
#

Magier class, new op

half pollen
obsidian quarry
boreal crow
#

IM IN!

half pollen
#

im in but half my legacy chars are gone 😄

obtuse tendon
#

We're not alone

half pollen
#

cant login with my legacy chars, but new season one works 😕

#

im iiiin

obtuse tendon
#

Still waiting 🙂‍↔️

half pollen
#

time for some fat SLAMS

molten cobalt
#

I thought launch was tomorrow, guess I got the days mixed

#

But seems to be server issues as usual anyway?

obtuse tendon
#

Yap

half pollen
#

im in and now its fluid

molten cobalt
#

How don’t they learn?

obtuse tendon
#

I don't think you can just learn

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Think it has to do with capacity, numbers, price

obsidian quarry
obtuse tendon
#

there are some numbers you can't work around for a specific time

molten cobalt
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The LE global launch was the worst game launch I have ever experienced

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They should have learned hehe

obtuse tendon
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LMAO

scenic sail
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I still haven't been able to get in, got an LE55 error and then just sat there waited for it to load for 20 minutes, trying again after verifying steam files in a bit

dense juniper
scenic sail
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Nope, going with falconer, they nerfed the shit out of mage and falconer was already way more powerful and fast anyhow, so I'm fine playing the rogue... and I tend to play it like a spell caster class

half pollen
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well that was fast

obtuse tendon
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I wonder if the people doing the race got equal treatmetn

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Some people are in act 3 while some trying to race won't even be in kekw

dense juniper
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well server location and high internet speed might be a key factor for that.

signal aurora
#

new blackhole vfx looks BALLER

harsh abyss
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oh?

dense juniper
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isn't Blackhole like a 40 point unlock in SORC tree... are u like lvl 50+ already? lol

harsh abyss
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logging into old characters I bet

obtuse tendon
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got in

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If someone still stuck, i disabled steam cloud and overlay like some people suggested

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and it worked

scenic sail
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Does that mean you can only play in offline mode? I can't connect to any servers, it's either LE52 or LE55

harsh abyss
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I'm in onlinej sut fine

fair hearth
#

ele nova selfcast is really nice in the very earlygame

dense juniper
fair hearth
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this is just one hell of a node to start with

obsidian quarry
harsh abyss
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spark charges are really good

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spark charge nova has always been great for early game

obsidian quarry
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towns are bad, cant get out of keepers camp 😢

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with a group of people, all running back and forth XD

uncut zealot
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crazy nemsis item

unreal blade
obsidian quarry
obtuse tendon
obsidian quarry
#

125k players so far

obtuse tendon
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Problem is that most certainly, in two weeks we're back at maybe, 15% of that?

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So i'm sure they can't justify paying a lot for such a limited time

obsidian quarry
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I suspect well see a tech blog on what went wrong - apparently there was a problem with getting into the queue that was the issue for logins

obtuse tendon
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One thing i can say for sure, being there among the first didnt help 😂

unreal blade
obsidian quarry
unreal blade
obsidian quarry
unreal blade
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even with all this scaling, brand is likely only going to have decent endgame damage. not sure why you think it will get a 6x nerf.

obtuse tendon
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Got a champion that spawned tons of lizard woooo, and thats with a very restrictive lootfilter lmao

obsidian quarry
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i got sealed t6 int on my first nemesis, this feels strong for levelling XD

lost ridge
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is disintegrate any viable at leveling and/or endgame?

obtuse tendon
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everything is

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i mean it

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for leveling

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for endgame, as long as we're talking under like 400-500 corruption, you can make everything work as well

turbid carbon
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Had a question about Lightning Blast. Does the Overcharge + Hypercharge nodes proc the Halo Effect node as well?

harsh abyss
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They should, yeah

turbid carbon
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Okay cool, wanted to know before I invested towards Halo Effect lol

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Hopefully it isnt weak

harsh abyss
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Just remember it only works on the first hit

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It doesn't work on any chains

turbid carbon
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thats not too bad. As long as it works on the multi casts im okay with that

lost ridge
#

level 2 unique dropGigaChad

fair hearth
#

is it just me
or does invocation's lack of access to %more kinda suck?

obsidian quarry
fair hearth
fresh relic
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Any build for leveling up (I am RuneMaster)

obsidian quarry
#

does blade weaving boost fire aura damage if procced from surge?

neat badge
#

Too many spell to pick for runemaster damn! Whats a fun skill you guys would recommend

plain garnet
#

This glacier leveling build is nuts. Hold down glacier + mana strike, tank everything

rain badger
#

Nemesis OP. Im level 18 lol

plain garnet
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That's gross

sharp quest
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hello guys, i saw some rune prison and killed an exiled mage, it dropped this color item, what does it imply O.O

rain badger
sharp quest
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I see

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Also is there a time limit to kill these harbingers? I defeated one but it seems like it escaped ?

nimble shoal
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If you selected "empower" on a nemesis, its defeat animation is it escaping

sharp quest
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I see i see i think i did that yes >.<

tight kernel
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Dropped a Prism Wraps as a level 19 Spellblade, currently Glacier on my way to Shatter Strike (once dual wield), is it a decent leveling item?

scenic dock
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what builds are you going for

tight kernel
feral jetty
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Ayo pretty good leveling item right?

half valley
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not that great imo

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i'd stick to this at low levels

harsh abyss
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oh okay nemesis

quiet elm
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I am following the maxroll mage leveling guide and the lootfilter. Rule 9 in the lootfilter is called "Recolor most valuable" and under attributes dexterity is selected. Isnt that wrong? Shouldnt it be intelligence for mages?

harsh abyss
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If you're doing a spellblade build, they get really good crit scaling via dex

lime tundra
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is runemaster a decent starter build?

harsh abyss
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Yeah, it's fine for sure

junior coral
#

i think best starter buiold is supposed to be SB according to youtubers

scenic dock
#

why does maxroll not have the arcane orb sorc?

plain garnet
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shatter strike is insane if you get it set up correctly.

fresh relic
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Amm I think I done a mistake, I saw a leveling guide for a mage but I went for R uneMaster instead of spellblade ( Iwanted runemaster)

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and the build had Shattering Strike

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Is there a level guide for RuneMaster?

viral fox
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wait black hole always did ONLY dot damage?

harsh abyss
#

yep

fresh relic
#

boys any tips

quiet elm
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You can find a runemaster build on maxroll, but its aimed for endgame

fresh relic
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Erm

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So should I pay to get back to spellblade?

quiet elm
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Unless you want to experiment and find out for yourself, use the mage leveling guide and respecc when you reach endgame

obtuse tendon
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Well well well, hello there

quiet elm
obtuse tendon
fresh relic
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22

obtuse tendon
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At that level i was just using lightning bolt and glacier

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i really like the leveling build of frozen sentinel (the str stacker guy) it requires 25 i think?

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It's flame rush + runic invocation + lightning bolt

fresh relic
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I want to be

obtuse tendon
#

your movement skills just summon a rotating orb around you, and you lightning blast while it does that

fresh relic
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runemaster tho

obtuse tendon
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This is a runemaster build

silk pewterBOT
fresh relic
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level 100 tho

fresh relic
obtuse tendon
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it's not for lvl 100, you'll see if you checke very spell

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what's importnat to check is passives, skills and eventually item but in early you just use what you get

viral fox
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i just discovered black hole and disintegrate are the only dot damage skill..

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black hole will never be great ):

tight bloom
junior coral
#

best skill to lvl as 1-50?

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not many people playing mage hard to find guide

fresh relic
harsh abyss
#

Or Frost Claw

obtuse tendon
obtuse tendon
harsh abyss
#

Basically any skill combo can be used to level up, the campaign is very forgiving.

obtuse tendon
#

I got a slight fire resist overkill

harsh abyss
#

you mean you're scaling black hole ignite?

obtuse tendon
#

does it scale of it?

harsh abyss
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not inherently, but there's a node for it

obtuse tendon
#

Might be worth a shot if its not too far

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might goa way once i drop that though

harsh abyss
#

You'd be looking at 2370% ignite chance per second 😝

junior coral
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is wasd broken, im auto attacking random mobs

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without evcen aiming

obtuse tendon
obtuse tendon
viral fox
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can more than one ignite be applied per second?

harsh abyss
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Yeah, ailment chance stacks above 100%.

250% would mean that you apply 2 stacks and have a 50% chance to apply a 3rd stack

viral fox
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oh i see

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maybe black hole will really work now

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maybe a build with frost claw fire / black hole

fresh relic
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@obtuse tendon I move to this build and I bvarely do any damage now : P

obtuse tendon
fresh relic
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maybe not :p

junior coral
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is lightnign blast beter than glacier for lvling

obtuse tendon
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You need to put your 3 first spell with fire lightning fire spell

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when you cast 3 spells you'll ahve rune

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using either runic invocation or flame blast (once you get the node which you should have if you're 25) it will spawn the rotating orb

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so you just alternate lightning blast and move on cooldown

fresh relic
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@obtuse tendon so the positioning of the spell slot matters?

obtuse tendon
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yes

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because of this

junior coral
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glacier or lightnign blast for lvling

obtuse tendon
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both work

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you can even use both at once

fresh relic
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so I put fire then lightning then shield?

obtuse tendon
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i did that because my flame ward is transfered to lightning

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you can put lightning blast in the middle if you didnt reach the lightnign node for flame ward yet

fresh relic
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so do I put flame lightning flame?

junior coral
#

how u get lvl 46 so fast is there a speed method

harsh abyss
#

When you've gone through the campaign a few times, it goes pretty quick

obtuse tendon
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Just playing

junior coral
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oh crap glacier 1 cast takes all my mana 😄

obtuse tendon
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you have a point in the top right to reduce mana cost and remove last hit

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i personally didnt take it and just run past mobs, trying to group them before unleashing a huge glacier to kill them all

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rinse and repeat

fresh relic
obtuse tendon
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now you do that and alternate with your lightning blast

fresh relic
junior coral
#

how do i salvage gear again

obtuse tendon
junior coral
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oh i dont have that. so i sell all these whites and lues?

fresh relic
#

@obtuse tendon Lastly, what kind of items should I aim for

junior coral
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blues*

fair hearth
#

which invocations do people actually build around, usually?

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i do need a cold rune in the middle bc i wanna end up going strength stack

gray tinsel
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Have one build mage good damage?

obtuse tendon
#

spell damage, intelligence, fix some of your resistances, hp, ward, lightning damage

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everything work

junior coral
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i picked runemage seems like bad idea low mana for glacier

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and glacier doing way mroe dmg than lblast

obtuse tendon
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you can just keep going, use mana strike instead of lightning blast and just perma glacier

junior coral
#

my character no longer is picking items up. weird wasd bug i guess

obtuse tendon
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do you see them onthe ground? cuz if you dont it might just be alt +z

potent dune
#

So the previous CoC-meteor build doesn't really work anymore, because the more meteors only work on self-cast meteors?

versed zinc
#

new league, just started then

first character 2 minutes into the game drop firestarter torch in the second area lul

half pollen
#

well thats nice

junior coral
#

not liking mage, this feels almost as slow as poe2

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or the skills im using are no good

hardy isle
#

gday boys, I just crafted something a bit insane I think. It's a int/mana stacking coc meteor sorc

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AV2EZegA

It's the first time I made my own LE build I don't really know if I overinvested into defenses or if the dps will be viable.

feedback would be greatly appreciated 😄

silk pewterBOT
junior coral
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So few mage players so few guides

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doing all the wrong skills and upgrades

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might switch classes soon this is tedious af with LB

full bluff
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Start with glacier, lightning blast is really slow at first

junior coral
#

oh ok. do u know what talents to go for glacier

full bluff
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I usually do the one that reduce mana cost and only has 2 explosions, the one that makes it ranged, rest into more damage

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then I get ice barrage for long range clear

junior coral
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ok thx

full bluff
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can mostly just run with ice barrage up and clear left overs and harder targets with glacier

junior coral
#

what lvl does lblast get good

full bluff
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You probably need the spark charge unique catalyst for it to feel good

junior coral
#

o

full bluff
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craft some spell dmg and cold dmg if you can, really helps starting off

junior coral
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darn

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okay ill respec into glacier

full bluff
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New dodge feels really good, like a mini teleport 🙂

junior coral
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frostclaw better than glacier for lvling? if you had to pick one

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as RM

full bluff
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frost claw and ice barrage works well together, frost claw boosts ice barrage attack rate

junior coral
#

and what about volanic orb

full bluff
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Thats what I play, but can be hard to start with. But if you play runemaster you can use rune bolts to regen mana in between cooldown of volcanic orb.

harsh abyss
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Easiest leveling I think I've ever done is line fireball + greater fireball as a RM

ivory atlas
harsh abyss
# junior coral this patch?

It's not what I did this patch, but it's pretty much unchanged from the past. Here's a super quick planner for your first skills: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdjXWapo

You just cast fireball, flame rush, and Runic Invocation (Greater Fireball, 3 rah runes). Use Flame Rush to dash around and explode to kill stuff. Fireball to hit bosses/rares to stack up ignites and do tons of damage, and greater fireball to help you clear big groups.

silk pewterBOT
junior coral
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oh nice. what build you using atm?'

harsh abyss
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As soon as you get Dancing Fire maxed out, you go towards Flame Burst, and you just annihilate single target

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I'm doing the channeled LB build I've been talking about. It might be a little weaker than I remember because there's been some power creep, but I just finished the campaign and monos are going pretty smooth to start. I Need some significant gear upgrades though.

full bluff
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Doubt it can do uber aberoth, but fun to play at lower corruption 🙂

bitter tusk
#

anyone have a good item filter for shatter?

round heron
#

been doing a static firebrand build - veri nice

junior coral
#

what is a good build to lvl at 22

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real slow feel for me compared to other classes

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I went RM but that portion of my character feels useless. the RI doesn't do much

harsh abyss
#

Did you try the "fireballs in a line" spec?

waxen scroll
junior coral
harsh abyss
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Yeah you use a different spell for aoe. The fireball line is for single target.

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You can spec fire ele nova, use runic invocation, get spreading flames on fireball... lots of options.

junior coral
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im gonna stick with glacier and just respec to Sorc

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or go spellblade shattering strike

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RM isn't for me

full bluff
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I tested frost claw frostbite and it feels weak, way weaker than it used to be. Something is wrong...

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Runemaster has no real strenght yet

junior coral
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maybe i just don't like mage anymore. the other classes feel way better when i tried them earlier

full bluff
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you could be right, mage is not at its old top anymore.

night cedar
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Can I ask for advice on making shatter strike SB clear a little less bad?

full bluff
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Sorry can't help with spellblade, never got it working for me

junior coral
harsh abyss
#

Ele nova felt SUPER strong early game this time. Single target is obviously bad, but once I got a second specialization slot, leveling was a breeze

ivory atlas
#

Lvl 72 monolith emporewed soon

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Spellblade SHATER STRIKE

signal aurora
#

Has anyone got a feel how of the new black hole is yet? Is cold black hole viable?

night cedar
ivory atlas
#

Clear what ?

night cedar
#

Just clearing mobs

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Really good at bossing but the aoe feels low

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Or it’s slow at monos

ivory atlas
#

for big area

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and just run and spam

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tp hit dash dash hit tp hit

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boot + armor = big moove speed too

night cedar
#

Mmm sweet

ivory atlas
harsh abyss
#

Man, you've been blessed by rngesus today

night cedar
#

Damn my best drop today is a 2lp tundra helmet

harsh abyss
#

I got a +3 LB helm from nemesis pretty early, but other than that all my drops have been for some random primalist

modest heath
#

oh man arcane current was taken out back and shot

harsh abyss
#

yeah

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just totally removed

severe hatch
#

does stuff like "shock chance on lightning hit" work with brand of deception?

unreal blade
severe hatch
#

ty

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does the skill damage make a difference?

#

like lightning damage/elemental damage stuff

#

I can't find a way to read the tooltip of brand in game

unreal blade
fervent ledge
#

Static orb good leveling?

ivory atlas
orchid leaf
#

Does anyone have a good Season 2 Disintegrate build they are using?

harsh abyss
#

My build is kind of like legally distinct Disintegrate, heh

orchid leaf
harsh abyss
#

I just beat regular monolith lagon with basically zero danger, so it's decent at least.

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Here's my crap gear where I'm at currently, you can kind of get the idea: ~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ow6a0vaB

Channeled Zero-Mana Lightning Blast. Insidious Conduction for channeled LB, Innate Conduit for casting at zero mana, Halo Effect for Spark Nova on every channeled cast (8/sec)

Teleport and cast RI to restore mana, drop Glyph of Dominion for easy capped resists, channel until everything on the screen is dead. Aiming? Wave your cursor near enemies and LB will snap to it.

silk pewterBOT
orchid leaf
#

Nice! When did you switch to this, or did you go from the start?

harsh abyss
#

I started off with lightning Ele Nova and used LB for my 2nd specialization. Once you get Innate Conduit and Insidious Conduction (infinite channel) that becomes your single target damage, and once you get Halo Effect filled in, you can drop ele nova because that's when your clear is fixed.

Prioritize some Ward/sec on gear, especially the prefix on the chestpiece/helm that gives ward/sec per Gon rune. Use a Ritual Stone or whatever you need to get a bit of it early and it really makes survivability a breeze.

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It's not the highest DPS build in the game (especially before you unlock Halo Effect) but, it's super chill and low APM

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I'm level 70 in the 85 monos and I don't really have to dodge anything except big stuff like the Diamond Matron death beams

orchid leaf
#

I will definitely check this out, thank you!

harsh abyss
#

Feel free to DM me if you have any questions 👍

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Also no promises on how deep into empowered monos it'll get you. Last time I did it, harbingers didn't even exist

slim edge
#

me: okay when i get home im NOT going to play shatterstrike like always and try somthing new. game: bet