🧙┃mage

[carmine hazel]

1 st season vs 72

[simple scarab]

just gonna be straight up here, i thought i was gonna hate arcane ascendance as skill and i love it

[molten cobalt]

personally I prefer the simpler version of the skill tree, so give it a few years and LE will be a beast for sure if they keep it up

[simple scarab]

feel like im playing starcraft and i just put myself into siege mode as a siege tank

[molten cobalt]

there will always be rabid fanboys though, that talk down on any other game than the one they are playing themselves. wish people would be more realistic and fair in their complaining. all games have their issues

[sacred ruin]

so anyways can we talk about how spark charge need to get nerfed into the ground

[mystic sparrow]

people getting 25k ward with it...sooo, basically certainly a high candidate for adjustments very soon

[simple scarab]

no nerfs, only buffs <dog eating stick.jpg>

[prime fable]

So i went with mage this season, is it safe to say that we are on top? Not that it matters but curious

[timid spear]

ya its when not if, but cycle 2 vs 3 is a big difference

anything that trivializes 1k corruption isnt good game design

[sacred ruin]

yeah mage is gonna end up being the best class, just because ward/spark charge is probably still overtuned

[timid spear]

whats the name of the pinnacle boss again? and is anyone killing him yet?

[mystic sparrow]

ABerroth, and its dead already

[timid spear]

hardcore too?

[mystic sparrow]

Last I saw (couple hours ago) the first people in the ladder hadnt tried it yet...at least people streaming and shiz

[timid spear]

gotcha

[thick rover]

sorc is no longer weak

the %mana spent as ward. i have like 150% and it cooks

[timid spear]

@mystic sparrow you have any footage of aberroth kills? any crazy builds 1 shotting him?

[olive violet]

i realllly wish ladder let us inspect the players on it

[mystic sparrow]

Was Bleed Falcon build...https://youtu.be/eQmw75BE_NE?si=C3veP381D4wssMM8

[frank widget]

thanks Nemesis, just what i needed for meteor build

[thick rover]

bruh that sash is nice. jelly

[olive violet]

snazzy

[clear smelt]

when am i able to swap to frostclaw sorc? I'm still playing the volcanic orb / meteor setup at level 66

[timid spear]

i recommend once you get volley of glass, like 6 pts in

without volley the dmg is pretty terrible

[clear smelt]

my minimum skill level is 9, so I should be good?

[timid spear]

are you doing monos at decent corruption?

might want to wait til u max it out if so, i was thinking leveling-wise

[clear smelt]

im only at level 66 haha, not even in empowered monos yet, been moving slow af. my friends a lil slow and I wanted to wait for him

[timid spear]

ya once you get volley then, mana will prob be an issue once you go full left side of tree

[marble shale]

Glacier build is better than Meteor?

[timid spear]

not sure, no idea how anything on a mana stacker scales dmg

[calm moat]

Static orb can get damage out of mana stacking iirc

[wary spindle]

disintegrate does not scale with cast speed right the tickrate doesnt go up on channeling skills?

[next lance]

ye unless you get the node that gives it more damage but a delay that scales with cast speed

[wary spindle]

@next lance but this says only the delay gets lower so it wont up the tick time right?

[next lance]

its 50% more damage and so far i barely notice the delay with some cast speed so imo super worth, but yea tick time doesnt increase

[wary spindle]

ok so no cast speed for thi skill weird but kinda nice

[next lance]

definitely not bad to get some cast speed if gonna take that node tho

i wonder if the 100% faster stacks for disintegrate is worth, sounds like itd be really smooth but 4 points for it feels bad

[wary spindle]

yeah i took it baec it feels abd without

[next lance]

ye maybe ill skip searing plasma to fit it since im going stored power

[weary hamlet]

You don't really need it if you take the two points that let you resume at tier 3 with the buff

Extremely helpful on bosses when you need to dodge mechanics

[scenic dock]

are we the best class again this cycle

[remote urchin]

Does work with channeling abilities?

[weary hamlet]

Yes but it only counts starting the channel, and only if it costs 0 obv

[minor wasp]

We are always the best class, even when we aren’t

[minor wasp]

You would have to channel it 3 separate times

[sacred ruin]

best class because mage has the most busted item in fragment lmao, that item is so dumb

[viscid bane]

sorcerer or runemaster - first to reply chooses my mastery

[uneven valve]

I'm 54 and trying to decide what build to transition to when I get home from work. Sorcerer..planner recommendations?

[sacred ruin]

i'm pretty sure you could jury rig some weird spark charge disintegrate build and it would work

[velvet crag]

does anyone have a shatterstrike late game loot filter

[thick rover]

Run Allies Meteor build. Its mad smooth https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/allies-mana-stacking-meteor-sorcerer#passives

[olive violet]

respeccing passives is still a massive pain i see

[rough python]

whats best on mage currently you guys think?

[sacred ruin]

sorc + spark charge

[harsh abyss]

Protip: If you press "Enter" for the confirmation message, it'll dismiss it. So you can click+enter+click+enter to quickly remove all points from a node.

[olive violet]

ye its more "you cant unspec these points because youve spent points the other place" bs.

so you have to unspec 5 points, put them into somewhere else, then unspec 5 points, put them somewhere else

[next horizon]

any experienced sorcerer in HC plz ?

[harsh abyss]

Well, before this patch, the best Sorc advice for HC is "Don't." So we'll see how the buffs this patch hash out.

[sacred ruin]

it's not even a question, sorc's crazy busted

[thick rover]

im smacking 10k meteors

[crude ember]

guys how do you keep up mana with glacier on bosses?

i have 800 mana and i always have full bar on maps but on bossess i cant sustain without many targets

[thick rover]

what level are you?

[crude ember]

78

[thick rover]

grab archmage on the tree

and wisdom

[sacred ruin]

i forgot how easy it is to level with firestarter lmao

[crude ember]

got archmage already, gonna get wisdom too hope it will help

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, it's the #1 leveling unique for s ure.

Especially if you pair it with a fireball ignite build.

[thick rover]

If you're ok swapping skills i recommend dropping glacier for meteor. at 400+ mana it always crits and you get 48% mana back on cast

[next horizon]

I went mana road but mana doesnt protect ward so its a bit meeeh

[thick rover]

Mana turns into ward. I got like 150% mana cast as ward. im reaching like 2-3k ward at 68

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, the "Damage taken from mana before life" is more of an endurance-type protection

[next horizon]

I mean defensive wise I took the dmg taken as mana before health

[long heron]

is disintegrate decent now i was thinking of building it with harbinger of stars

[thick rover]

ah that is kinda meh

[next horizon]

Idk ... so all the mana regen is useless ?

[harsh abyss]

Disintegrate doesn't hit or crit so it will never trigger Harbinger. You could theoretically proc spells with disintegrate to do it, but you're probably better off just... casting t hose spells.

[next horizon]

all those changes for just going into full ward like always imba mech ...

[long heron]

ah didn't know that lmfao thx guess i need to redo ny build

[dire zealot]

Is mana/mana spent as ward hybrid something that a sorc would use? Found a staff and unsure if it's a good base.

[elfin flame]

when do ya'll switch to endgame builds?

[sacred ruin]

When you get to the key item you need and have enough skill points to make it work

[elfin flame]

i'm horrible at the game so im playing glacier right now. i spec'd into the endgame one but I don't think i'm high enough level yet to actually use it.

[thick rover]

If u want a noob friendly build that slaps check out this one: https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/allies-mana-stacking-meteor-sorcerer#passives

[silk pewter]

Allie's Mana Stacking Meteor Sorcerer Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class

Mage / Sorcerer

Used skills

• Meteor
• Focus
• Flame Ward
• Teleport
• Arcane Ascendance

Used unique items

• Harbinger of Stars
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros
• Frostbite Shackles
• Transient Rest
• Throne of Ambition

Tags

Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer / Cycle Starter / Beginner / SSF / Ranged

Created by Allie · Jul 7, 2024, 3:11 PM

[harsh abyss]

Usually most builds don't need specific uniques, but those uniques make builds way stronger. Allie's build above is a good example of that. It functions with none of those uniques, but they all come together to make it super strong

[next horizon]

thats not a good build for hc

[thick rover]

I'm playing it right now and its amazing lmao. Im not on HC but it could def tackle HC content to mid corruption

You can definitely scale your damage really well and get strong ward generation with that build. I'm not sure what fits your definition of "HC" viable. But it isnt pre-nerf Healing hands level of ward gen but its strong

[next lance]

man how do i keep cfc playing disintegrate runemaster, if i convert flame ward to cold i lose fire aura shred

prob worth tho cfc still too good lul

[somber path]

hi, i was looking for a frostbite frost claw build and stumbled upon the maxroll guide but i feel i bit lost, the whole point of the build is to stack as much frostbite stack to deal more damage over time right? are there any other guide that show the build? i saw other build focus on crit stat, which is better?

[mint crown]

Is this passive tree updated? I ask because it still goes into Runemaster, video uses flame rush/runic invocation.. but the skills selected don't have flame rush/runic invocation.
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/frostbite-frost-claw-sorcerer-guide#passives-header

[sinful shard]

why do i see mana stacking sorcs use static orb as single target, how do i turn it into ST?

[lament flint]

Anyone got a basic leveling loot filter for a spellblade by any chance ??

[somber path]

it does not seem to be the case, in the pinned comment of the video he say to go to sorc first for ice barrage

[mint crown]

thank you!

[rustic scaffold]

So for the sorcs who use disintegrate, you guys stacking mana regen?

[hexed cosmos]

Trying to build a disintergrate lightning build by hand while I'm levelling is a fun challenge, I'm made of paper and am hitting like a slightly firm wet noodle 😄

[mental pulsar]

which is better? frostclaw or glacier? Dilemma.

[rustic scaffold]

lmao I feel you I'm doing the same

[faint frost]

is this good

[remote crest]

hi do you prefer spellblade or sorcerer, last cycle i player a lot as runemaster and lich and i dont know which mastery pick now

[rustic scaffold]

Both are fun

[main turret]

Likewise. I am really trying to make lightning blast and static work, but I'm not sure if it will hold up. Unleashed power seems like it would be too slow, but maybe I'm wrong about that.

[olive mango]

I nuked Lagon easily with disintegrate lightning fwiw, I could basically sit stationary for the majority of the fight, which is the point of a disintegrate build. Eventualy have to transition to an end game build, but just wanted to give folks an idea of how smooth leveling is with disintegrate now.

[rustic scaffold]

Did you use any uniques? I still found myself pretty paper thin

[olive mango]

zero

[hexed cosmos]

Earlygame is definitely not smooth, maybe I'm just building wrong though lol

[olive mango]

I stack ward early with this build, tho

[rustic scaffold]

What's your ward generating process looking like?

I've currently got that unique that drains your mana at 100% to generate ward for me lol

[exotic willow]

does arcane current work ?

I tried volcanic orb and meteor but I don't see any spark charges debuff on enemy

[olive mango]

I take every obvious not-bad Ward node on the Sorc passive tree, use flame ward and focus, other skills re lightning strike and static ward. I have to get real lazy to die

[rustic scaffold]

Interesting, I tried going the path where disin. basically shoots out static orb and lightning blast but not too sure how I feel about the LB one.

[alpine lake]

hey guys anyone here play spellblade ? what build you decide to go this cycle ?

[olive mango]

I really had to experiment with the skill tree to get it where I felt like LB was generating value for me tbh

[proper hawk]

Yeah spark charge mana strike, should be good with the new flat Crit threshold passive

[rustic scaffold]

Yeah currently I'm running LB, Static Orb, Dis, Flame Ward and Arcane Ascendance. Though LB and Orb aren't on the bar, it's replaced with tele + Focus (vanilla).

[olive mango]

I will probably swap to AA when I go pure mana stack, but Focus has served me well in a pinch, and is yet another method I use to stack ward.

[rustic scaffold]

I really wonder if that -60% damage modifier for no mana cost is worth it lmao.

[olive mango]

other people have crunched the math and it becomes worth it at 1500+ mana

[rustic scaffold]

Holy hell okay I've got a long way for that..I'm still sitting at like..250 lmao

[olive mango]

yeah, it's very gear dependent

[dry bramble]

any disintigrate builds in end game? what do you do for defense? im just entering end game

[rustic scaffold]

Can't say that mine is any good rn lol

[dry bramble]

I went runemaster for the glyph of dominion synergy and it looks to have more mana regen. but sorc had some good things too

im starting to wonder if sorc was the way to go and mana stack

[exotic willow]

does arcane current passive node works ? (spark charges per 40+ mana skills) . Im casting meteor or volcanic orb but I see no spark charges ?

[plush anchor]

hey guys, i havent played since a month after launch, but did they already have a wipe? I dont see any of my online characters

ah nvm.. i see my characters online were moved to Legacy

[celest urchin]

There something i can't get, i have enigma + dragora's daggers, all the good skills, somewhat good stat for starting, but i hit like a wet noodle with this build : https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/nalias-spark-charge-spellblade Any clue ? I also have the sparky idols

[silk pewter]

Nalia's Spark Charge Spellblade Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class

Mage / Spellblade

Used skills

• Firebrand
• Frost Claw
• Lightning Blast
• Flame Ward
• Surge

Used unique items

• Fragment of the Enigma
• Dragorath's Claw
• Red Ring of Atlaria
• Red Ring of Atlaria
• Peak of the Mountain

Tags

Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer / Cycle Starter / Melee

Created by NaliaaS · Jul 9, 2024, 3:29 AM

[olive violet]

so what faction you guys going with? Considering testing merchants this cycle as i did cof last

[celest urchin]

Merchant 200%

[next lance]

Merchant 200%

[mystic sparrow]

Anyone getting massive fps drops?

[rustic scaffold]

Is merchants actually better than CoF now lol

[umbral ridge]

waited for 1.1 to drop so new-ish player still - can you send me your build? im dealing big damage but tankiness is starting to… tank.

i have teleport, ward, disintegrate, focus + unsure what the ither 2 are. also sorc

[rustic scaffold]

Do you have the points that reduce the damage you take while channeling on Disin?

[obtuse dew]

What is a better pick for Disintegrate: Sorcerer or Runemaster?

[harsh abyss]

You could go either way depending on how you're going to build it. RM has good synergy with Glyph of Dominion, but Sorc has good synergy with the new mana stacking node.

[umbral ridge]

galvanized defense? i know i have it but i’ll double check. i guess i was wondering if there were other must have ward passives that could stack too

[rustic scaffold]

Yeah, that does help a wee bit but it also depends what stage you're at and also what your current itemization is like.

[dry bramble]

which node is the mana stacking one?

[harsh abyss]

Hyperfocal

It requires a LOT of investment to make up for the "Less" damage multiplier from Laser Focus, but making Disintegrate have zero mana cost has some clear benefits.

[rustic scaffold]

is the archmage node even worth using lmao

[harsh abyss]

Very much so. A 20% mana cost refund is a huge amount of mana sustain. It's especially good because it doesn't actually lower the mana costs. With other sources of refunding, you can effectively sustain infinite mana.

[rustic scaffold]

But does it apply when channeling skills though?

[harsh abyss]

No, it's only for initial costs. So things like Meteor and Static Orb.

[rustic scaffold]

Okay so it doesn't seem that beneficial if I'm running Disintegrate then, even with the proc'd skills mana consumption. For those other heavy casters I can definitely see its utility.

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, you can probably skip it for channeling builds.

[rustic scaffold]

Do you know if casting speed ups the tick speed on channeled skills?

[harsh abyss]

No, it doesn't. It only affects the speed at which you start channeling

[rustic scaffold]

Damn, unfortunate lol, thanks for the info. Confirmed some doubts I had lol.

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, I really want them to make some unique gloves that convert cast speed to more damage for channeled spells

[verbal storm]

I know black hole's armageddon casted meteor but didn't use meteor's tree. Did they change that? description seems to imply it uses the tree still (I came back months later)

[proper hawk]

The real question is why attack speed works on warpath and flurry but channeled spells don't work with cast speed

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, they were initially planning to rename it "comet" to reduce confusion, but ultimately decided it would be better + cooler to make it just cast meteors including the tree.

[verbal storm]

:0 awesome change. time to pump mana regen and cry over mana costs

[harsh abyss]

Join us.

[valid wigeon]

was entering szn wanting to do spellblade, but sorc seems fun too. what are you guys picking?

[next lance]

does brand of deception inherit skill tree bonuses of skill that applied it? like more damage, ele pen etc

[near ivy]

Anyone have a filter to Fire sorcerer? meteor and volcanic orb?

[winter venture]

Is there any node that returns disintegrate to the old animation?

[proper hawk]

Yes, assuming those bonuses are applicable, ie. not restricted to hit damage

[valid wigeon]

damn disentagrate is awesome, any bulids that utilize it? all maxroll end builds dont appear to have it

[next lance]

im doing runemaster disintegrate rn pretty fun

int stack with the fire per int node has really good synergy with runemaster and glyph of dominion gives 40% more damage

[valid wigeon]

the rune consumables are throwing me off cause i usually would not like a consumable like that

[next lance]

its pretty different after patch so any builds youll see are outdated

[next lance]

im automating runes with flame rush so can just worry about lazering 90% of the time

[valid wigeon]

ohh? does flamerush consume them eventually?

[next lance]

theres node that makes it cast runic invocation when it ends

and its set to cast frostguard (cold fire cold) which also scales off int so works out really well

biggest problem is mana so im stacking regen everywhere i can lol

[solemn pulsar]

Glacier or Meteor Sorc?

[harsh abyss]

Whichever one you like better

[thick rover]

Meteor 100%

[steel ridge]

I have no idea how static works or how to put it into a build

Making off meta builds and have static orb casted with runic invoc, thinking I may want to combo with static somehow as well

[naive hazel]

Does Ignivar's Head 's Chance to apply Ignite on Hit while Channelling work with Disintegrate? (Disintegrate does not hit, right?)

[olive mango]

to my knowledge it doesn't, DoT effects do not hit

[proper hawk]

Disintegrate does not hit, however disintegrate has a node that uses your ignite chance

[naive hazel]

OH you are so correct, I did miss that interaction 😮
Thanks alot 🫡

[olive mango]

a lot of people are asking me for this. I will put somethign together later tonight and post it

[naive hazel]

I just added spreading flames firebolt to my Disintegrate leveling build for when I have to be mobile, works like a charm

Does Ignite Duration increase total Ignite damage?

[proper hawk]

Yes

[buoyant bloom]

Right, saw that for myself already. That sucks, and is quite unclear why it's needed for balance, since the cost is paid anyway, one way or another

[hollow marlin]

Compared to leveling my fissure warlock last cycle, leveling glacier sorc just feels…kinda weak. Anyone else? Or do I just have to tough it out?

[glossy mountain]

It really shouldn’t ? What points sre you speccing ?

[woven yarrow]

Damn the nemesis egg can add up to 4 LP

Just cooked a 4LP strong mind

[olive violet]

man now i cant decide if i want to continue meteor or go FC with snazzy spark charge

[woven brook]

Sorc or Runemaster for this cycle and why?

[olive violet]

sorc is as good if not better than RM and you dont need to go into debt paying for a physical therapist to treat your carpal tunnel

[umbral ridge]

thanks! it was itemization for me, i just upgraded some gear and its going again. still want to see the build tho

[thick rover]

is there a real downside for going a 2hnd staff over a 1hand and offhand

[faint stratus]

is anyone else completely mana starved on bosses with glacier?

[rustic scaffold]

@olive mango In the end I did find a use for the archmage talent with Disintergrate lol.

[olive violet]

pretty sure every sorc is mana starved with any ability until they get all the gear pieces together to spam

[thick rover]

if u dont wanna be mana starved with glacer run the top node

[rustic scaffold]

You know with this now I wonder if that stupid staff that turns meteor into electric and the belt that has a chance of spawning meteors can cook up a build now..

[grizzled monolith]

Anyone in empowered monos with disintegrate? I've been using it around lv.80ish and find it fell off pretty harsh. Tried a few different variants and none of them seem all that great (no uniques). Does anyone have a build planner they think might work but haven't tested out that I could look at? Maybe I'm missing something. (Sorcerer)

[oblique dock]

Hello guys. I am an old PoE and Diablo player, just starting to LE. Thinking of Plasma Orb Runemaster (and couple others) build I saw online. Can anyone tell me their opinion on it? people say it is very hard to learn and play build.

[rustic scaffold]

While I haven't gotten around to it yet (It just clicked to me like 30 minutes ago) try investing in meteor and going with the set staff that turns meteors to electric + the belt Harbinger of stars. Basically making a Tal Rasha's meteor build lol

It's going to basically be reliant on the no mana while channeling aspect from Disintegrate + crit rng lol.

[naive hazel]

Which? I left it inspeced :/

[grizzled monolith]

doesn't really work since disintegrate cannot crit, you'd have to take the node for it to cast electric blast and then have that crit

[rustic scaffold]

Your crits aren't from the disintegrates, it's from the static orbs.

Again, I haven't tested it this is just me conspiring a build lol.

[grizzled monolith]

i had a similiar idea in mind with that or electric blast so that's fair might work, but it's a lottt of investment im not ready for yet lol

[rustic scaffold]

Yeah...I'm just trying to get the staff now. I think you can get it as a guaranteed drop from the end of the level 64~ish monolith on the left.

[grizzled monolith]

i really wish i could just get raw dps disintegrate to function since it looks cool and the rotation is kind of neat, but i just can't see how you can have enough upkeep and dmg to compete with other builds even remotely

[rustic scaffold]

The static orbs to basically refund the mana lol. It's nothing phenomenal but it does the job.

[rustic scaffold]

Is your mana giga stacked yet? Apparently that's when it shines (I have like none rip)

[grizzled monolith]

only like 700, was comparing to meteor and the dmg is significantly weaker (even at t3) w/ both of them having arcane ascendance and such. But I did not have a bunch of channeling dmg specific mods on my gear just like 2 T6's. Another problem is it doesn't really benefit from a lot of the sorcerer tree i feel. I don't think channeling it counts as 'casting' it for the 40mana cost+ nodes

[rustic scaffold]

it doesn't, the channel cost isn't that high for it to pop and it's on initial cast only.

Is what I currently have (It's at like 19 or something).

I may or may not tinker with the points to get the LB to proc while channeling to add onto my idea with the spark crits (to proc harbinger of stars more). However that would probably require to remove AA or ward...Which I do not think will be plausible later on.

If it somehow does become a meteor machine gun, the damage output might not be that bad with the right nodes lol

[harsh abyss]

If you're trying to proc crits with disintegrate, you should go LB instead of static orb. It procs 3x as much which is huge. But you can also double that up if you get the node that gices static charges while channeling and spec static to also cast LB every second.

Then AA can also proc LB, so you'd be getting a LOT more procs

[barren belfry]

anyone has a frostclaw build he can share?
currently playing the meteor mana stack but I wanna try something different 🤔

[gloomy flame]

does minion spell damage help with regular skill dmg too?

[minor wasp]

Only level 50 right now but Shatter Strike Frostbite is melting everything just as quick as 1.0 🥶🥶🥶

[solemn pulsar]

Has anyone tried fireball -> meteor coc? I noticed fireball has +% base crit in the tree, fire res shred, and homing projectiles

[woven brook]

What's the build for sorcerer?

[timid spear]

lots of good ones

[barren belfry]

Anyone plays a build applying Spark Charges with Frostclaw?

[rocky anvil]

The tooltip's description is directly contradicting the effect stated. Anyone knows which one is accurate, the description of the effect, or what the effect is claiming to be?

[timid spear]

which part? the return mana was nerfed, only procs off the main cast not second/third/return casts

[tawdry cypress]

Hey Guys, I can't find a guide for Shatter strike that isn't Frostbite or some spark build. Just a typical crit / on hit shatter strike. Do you guys have something to recommend? Thanks !

[rocky anvil]

The tooltip description says Directly casting Frost Claw costs less mana
The effect says Mana Cost: -6

The tooltip description says you have a chance to regain mana when you cast it
The effect says Chance to gain 12 mana on Direct Cast

Edit: The tooltip refers to the first part as direct cast and the second part as normal cast, the first part of the effect says just cost reduction, the second part of the effect says direct cast. So the tooltip is directly opposing the effect statements.

[woven yarrow]

This guy had a good one and pushed pretty high in corruption last season.
https://youtu.be/sDhdYG-r1Ck

[warm owl]

having problems with mana, dont have the 14% eff idols yet, but seems like elemental nova procs melt my mana..

and cant use the Frozen Ire staff without that -5mana cost tier7.... :c annoying to deal with manaissues, any advices?

[inland pier]

shey guys can u tell me

why i dont have my abilities lvl up anymore i just stopped at 18 and they dont go up? i have 67 lvl?

[opaque stag]

Glacier of Spark Charge as Leaguestarter? Will play SSF/CoF

[supple smelt]

spark charge is a hard start without enigma.

[timid spear]

i dont think direct cast and normal cast are different, there ways to proc frost claws off other abilities, maybe direct cast refers to not being effected by that

[tawdry cypress]

glacier is pretty fun, just some mana problems early but around lvl 30 it becomes really fun

[opaque stag]

So leveling as usual with Glacier and if I become lucky during leveling dropping a Enigma I can switch otherwise Glacier is the smoother start?

[tawdry cypress]

That's the way everyone is doing it

[opaque stag]

Aight

[tawdry cypress]

build isn't up to date for this season sadly 😦

[inland pier]

no its ok look at this this is sick build

[supple smelt]

yup - lightning blast spam until you can build up static orb - its hard to get going because its a mana hog.

[supple smelt]

I'm a psycho, so I actually leveled from 18+ as meteor. It was actually a lot smoother than you'd think.

[inland pier]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/allies-mana-stacking-meteor-sorcerer#equipment_stat_priorities

[silk pewter]

Allie's Mana Stacking Meteor Sorcerer Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class

Mage / Sorcerer

Used skills

• Meteor
• Focus
• Flame Ward
• Teleport
• Arcane Ascendance

Used unique items

• Harbinger of Stars
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros
• Frostbite Shackles
• Transient Rest
• Throne of Ambition

Tags

Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer / Cycle Starter / Beginner / SSF / Ranged

Created by Allie · Jul 7, 2024, 3:11 PM

[quaint thicket]

anyone got a decent lightning disintegrate build?

[flat nimbus]

what are our best options for sorcerer so far?

• glacier
• meteor
• 40 mana frost claw spark charge
  anything else comparable in speed and bossdmg?

[weary hamlet]

It's probably less of an intended balancing factor and more that this is how mechanics work at baseline and nobody at ehg tried to fix it cause nobody plays channeling builds

[weary hamlet]

meanwhile my nemesis eggs: adding t1 of random unrelated stat that is completely useless

[timid spear]

homing shotgun fireball and basic crit or dot frostclaw my 2 faves on sorc

crit cast speed lightning fun too but drops off on bosses, fireball also kinda bad against bosses

[barren belfry]

Hm I remember having a spreadsheet for the different echo rewards... Was there any ingame spreadsheet?

Where do I best farm the Fragment of the Enigma?

[weary hamlet]

I'm still suffering with disintegrate, currently up to about 130-150 corr, haven't played as much as I would like so my gear is still ultra trash. It's been rather bad nonetheless, compared to the numbers it used to have before - and even those numbers always had been rather weak. Currently building fire and I still cannot afford to take double beams cause 60 mana per second channeling cost is f ucking brutal. There are ways to mitigate it but I need a +4 (or better yet +5) relic and a new staff, as well as a boots slam with move speed. The survivability is also quite bad and IDK what to do about it other than stacking mana and using it as a defensive layer. I have over 2k stable ward out of combat and up to 4k in combat, but the regen is very slow as to be impractical.

[weary hamlet]

That's unfortunately useless because lightning conversion does not convert Craterborn to lightning pen and that' s the only real reason to be using meteor on a disintegrate build

[weary hamlet]

Unfortunately that's the truth, back in 1.0 and earlier (gamblers era builds) disintegrate was a good 3-5 times behind the competitive builds at the very best, and now it's 2-4 times behind its old damage even when built optimally. Meanwhile for the turret playstyle build with long ramp up, it should be strictly ahead of other more convenient or mobile builds

[grizzled monolith]

damn... I had some hope if I got better gear it would suddenly shine lmao. I wish that everytime the mana on channel ticked down it counted as a 'cast' so it would proc stuff like arcane momentum, afterglow, lost knowledge, archmage but as far as I can tell it doesn't work with any of them soooo rip

[weary hamlet]

But the developers cannot seem to be able to grasp this simple fact that there needs to be an upside for the many inherent tradeoffs that disintegrate has. Also, the less damage taken while channeling node only somewhat mitigates the risk of being rooted, it does not turn channeling into an advantage.

[weary hamlet]

Nah it's fine that it doesn't, skills should have unique mechanical identity too, but the devs fail to grasp this again - having no scaling from cast speed or on cast/on hit effects is a small upside but also a major downside when it comes to synergy, and they treat it the other way around which is hilarious. It should have bigger power budget for lack of this interaction, not smaller.

[grizzled monolith]

ye i just meant they should choose to either let us have those interactions and just have that be more powerful, or let it inherently be more powerful just how it is and not have those interactions but it's like you said they basically chose neither

doesn't help that there's not a lot of support in items/idols too

[harsh abyss]

You can't use Gamblers any more, but you can still use Ignivar's. Someone posted a Spellblade build using Prodigy and int stacking to get like 10+% base crit from Prodigy, then scale up Ignivar's head still to get 100-200% more damage pretty reasonably

[wary raptor]

What's everyone's favorite runemaster build to play? @ me

[weary hamlet]

yes, but on sorc you don't have prodigy and the investment into crit to make ignivar's worthwhile seems to be unreasonably high as you are trading off about 50% of your flat spell power. So you really want to hit closer to 200% for it to be worthwhile.

And even then you are still doing less damage than before patch, just by a smaller margin. Is that really worth going out of your way and playing the build on SB?

[weary hamlet]

I like the ignite glyph of dominion, but admittedly it's a fairly niche build that is fairly hard to stack survivability on. You are basically building health on mage. And now a little bit of ward too I guess.

[errant coyote]

there a build guide for the fireball build?

[timid spear]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/fireball-sorcerer-guide prob good

you need like 16 pts for fireball to feel good, but once you get it its really satisfying

you also need pierce on helm, and prob fireball skills on chest, big investment skill

[errant coyote]

Really interested in a fireball build, since it warns about low single target damage I'm not sure if it's the right cycle to try

[young gust]

Did anyone try vilatrias before 1.1 and now, am I going crazy or did the visuals change? the lightning bolt striking the blue marker is like yellow or something instead of also blue

[dark jay]

graphics have changed a lot this patch

[harsh thistle]

what's the best skill nodes allocation for mana stacking static orb?

[robust gorge]

@proven haven hows your league start

[harsh thistle]

so I've been referencing this build for a while (tri element mana stacking sorc), and I have a problem with the static orb skill tree, I always just send one orb in front of me, and not multiple, is that normal?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BxljL2dB

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1b

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (63) / Runemaster (30)

General:

▸ Health: 1,044, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 1,938, Regen: 20/s
▸ Ward Retention: 328%, Regen: 204/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 84 Int / 1 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 66% / 89% / 66% / 78% / 75% / 110% / 59%
▸ EHP: 1,467 / 1,604 / 1,467 / 1,998 / 1,604 / 1,604 / 1,379

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 209
▸ Armor Mitigation: 45% (2,680)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Cold, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Teleport (20)
• Meteor (21)
• Static Orb (23)
• Focus (20)
• Glacier (20)

Used unique items:

• Wrongwarp
• Harbinger of Stars
• Transient Rest
• Oceareon
• Julra's Stardial

[weary hamlet]

they listed "updates to graphics for spell mutators" across the board, which basically means conversions. I haven't tried it (although I got the set yesterday and I can check it out later in-game) but it's highly likely that the lightning meteor was one of the updated skills

[harsh thistle]

@grizzled lily wondering if I'm just having a visual bug or if there's some weird interaction with the multiple orbs node of static orb

[dark jay]

i think the small orbs are just very tiny

i can see 4 small damage numbers + 1 big damage number showing when i use static orb, but the range is really short

[harsh thistle]

ah I see so they're additional to the big orb then?

[dark jay]

yeah big orb deals big dam, and 4 small orbs don't deal as much, like 10% of the big orb

[harsh thistle]

ah I see, no worries then OK. I feel like in this build static orb is just for bosses and some big rares basically, doesn't really hit groups reliably

[weary hamlet]

they should shoot out to the side of the main orb on parabolic trajectories converging on the targeted point

[harsh thistle]

since I picked the reduced range too (4m), and orbs explode on contact, maybe it's normal I can't see anything lol, esp. compared to the super obvious main orb vfx

[thorny iron]

did mana strike alwys have a delay on the mana return?

[sharp patrol]

Guys I can’t decide between spark charge spellblade or meteor sorc. I have very few time to play if that’s a factor. Any ideas? 🙂

[warm owl]

how can ppl manage mana as frost claw? (running out of mana with elemental nova procs)

[weary hamlet]

yes, we've been whining about it since 2020 but apparently the developers don't plan to ever change it. That's cause mana strike uses the same mechanics as acolyte's rip blood, so there is an invisible mana orb traveling from the mobs to your character that only refunds mana when it hits

[hollow marlin]

Just get all your gear so you don't need mana strike 4head

[thorny iron]

dude it feels terrible

[weary hamlet]

We know man, we know

[sharp patrol]

iirc frostclaw got nerfed and is basically dead. Maybe that’s why?

[warm owl]

rly? thought its still s tier

only build i see on maxroll is frost claw + glacier, how come ppl play meteor also+

[half pollen]

maybe we should push for rip blood to be changed instead so mana strike has to follow

[dark jay]

i'm using meteor + glacier, damage is great, just need to stack as much damage as possible so you get more mileage out of each full burst

[weary hamlet]

wdym "how come"? Maxroll is not the definitive end all be all resource, they just post their own guides, some of which can also be fairly subpar

[shell sand]

I see a few of glacier sorcs running static orb in the levelling ladder anyone have a build guide for that build?

[weary hamlet]

it's scheduled for a rework, somewhere between now and never that is

[timid spear]

3 of the top 5 sorc builds on the level ladder are frostclaw atm

[late jay]

i still enjoy frostclaw, needs a few modifications but for sure not dead

[timid spear]

glacier mana stacker seems to be overall top dog atm tho

[warm owl]

ye but do ppl play frostclaw with elemental nova? Or some other variants?

[shell sand]

Yeah, not a fan of frost claw, and I've used glacier in the past for levelling before switching to runemaster, but playing sorc for the first time

Wish we could inspect the details of the spec/build of people on the ladder, oh well.

[slim axle]

er, you can

[shell sand]

how? 😮

[slim axle]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/ladders/ click their characters

[shell sand]

Oh, did not even know about that, thanks! Was looking at ingame ladder

[slim axle]

ahh 🙂

[opaque stag]

With Spark Charges

[rapid hinge]

Dont take level ladder too serious lol

[alpine lake]

anyone running shatter strike this cycle ? i am enjoying that build a lot really suprised how much fun it is

[hollow timber]

holy hell, anybody else doing sparkcharges? Ez af to scale but it chugs so hard, i went down to 4fps during an arena

[full bluff]

Frost Claw + Spark charges is pretty good on sorcerer now 🙂

[stuck fable]

mage builds on unity always a gpu burner

[harsh thistle]

gpu burner even without elemental nova?

[solar forum]

does meteor extinction node give % for large meteor per cast or per meteor that falls ?

[harsh thistle]

only for large meteor, pretty solid node though since 40% chance of large meteor at max lvl

[snow tangle]

Does anyone have a leveling build for spellblade with flamereave ?

[lilac anchor]

does self cast meteor -> crit cast metoer build work?
I dont see many builds going this route for some reason

[wispy rune]

extreme mana issues

[harsh thistle]

crit cast meteor is very convenient but it's a fine line between casting it enough and casting it too often. I tried the frost claw crit cast meteor setup and it triggered wayyyy too often, would melt bosses though. I prefer the mana glacier (no dmg) crit cast meteor setup

[lilac anchor]

so it "works" but not sustainable?
glacier is better i presume cause of the 1-2% mana return i presume?

[zinc ether]

When this says doubles and triples values, I imagine it refers to the amount of mana refunded, not the chance to trigger, right?

[wispy rune]

unless ur meteor group is doing little dmg, its nearly always overkill and just steals all ur mana

[wispy rune]

its the 7% yea.

[zinc ether]

aye cheers

[lilac anchor]

hmm.. without cast on crit
mana stacking self cast meteor better than glacier?
or mana stacking self cast glacier -> crit cast meteor.. really the meta now?

[wispy rune]

pretty sure glacier just beats meteor by a mile

but meteors are fun so 🤷‍♂️

[gilded marten]

Does spreading flames work the same as ignite mechanically when it comes to increased damage?

[lilac anchor]

glacier only or glacier crit cast meteor?
mana stacking build

[wispy rune]

p sure glacier only with like arcanse ascendance

[lilac anchor]

cool
im extra newb to glacier builds.
do i focus on 3rd explotion or go for 2nd explotion?

[wispy rune]

most go 3rd with heavy crit investment. tho specifics this cycle im unsure as im doing meteor

[lilac anchor]

ahh cause its fun 🙂
so i guess ill stick to glacier then until peope flesh/figure out this cycle

[wispy rune]

just play w/e is fun tbh

[lilac anchor]

have good mana stacking build i cna reference, i havent figured out what im "doing" with the mana stacking

[wispy rune]

wdym? u just get mana and some mana nodes in passive

[lilac anchor]

how do i turn that mana into damage/def? i assume thats the point fo the build?

[wispy rune]

meteor by itself will do damage, so being able to cast it enough is daamge. but then you get like crit and fire pen and what not

for defence u get a lot of ward through "mana spent as ward" and the like. and get ward retention and what not

[lilac anchor]

ohh so i got back to using meteor instead of glacier?

[wispy rune]

well just replace glacier with meteor if doing that route. theyre both the same concept

[terse patio]

does damage over time affix's apply to 100% of disintegrates damage?

[harsh thistle]

to be clear casting meteor manually doesn't rly cause any mana issue, it clears anything and you won't "waste" it by randomly casting it through crit. For the crit build I actually couldn't go for multiple meteors, went for mono meteor pumping it up, 40% chance for a big one, 100% crit, more crit damage etc. It consumed way less mana than multiple meteors

[next horizon]

how much mana spent as mana u target its overkill to go too much right ?

[wispy rune]

even direct casting meteor requires some decent investment into mana. especialyl if ur maxing sorc passive

[lilac anchor]

cool

[lilac anchor]

sweet!
but doesnt metoer have gurnateed crit?

[wispy rune]

gurantee crit is bait tbh.

you can easily push 100% cr anyway

[lilac anchor]

without gears?

[harsh thistle]

with Extiction it basically does yes, you can easily reach 60% crit chance on spell and meteor will have 100% cause of this node

[wispy rune]

well no, but meteor cang et to 13% base which makes 100% cr easily achieveable with little investment

[harsh thistle]

yeah that's what I mean, going for maximizing Extinction basically guarantees a crit, so investing in Astral Cataclysm is rly good

[acoustic elbow]

About to slam, what base is better here (i know its 1/4 but still) for static orb (non-meto)

[wispy rune]

hes talking about world ender i think tho

[harsh thistle]

oooh, yeah that's useless

[wispy rune]

extinction and astral cataclysm are good yea.

world ender is bait

[little delta]

is Runebolt viable ?

[rapid hinge]

runebolt is staple if you play RI. If you use it as main DPS - no

[lilac anchor]

okay, so basically save 1 point, but grab some crit chance somewhere to make up for it hmm

[harsh thistle]

I think by reaching lvl 80 or so, if you have an offhand that gives base crit chance (the crystal skull I think), and some crit chance on various gear piece, add in the sorc passives that give a ton of crit (also the mage passive node), you easily max the meteor crit chance. And you'd want to do this anyway for your other skills so it's not an "investment" per se, it's just good to do

[little delta]

shame no dps but bonuses from tree is great

[wispy rune]

u can also get a lot of free crit multi through meteor nodes and sorc passives. which are great

[lilac anchor]

got it!

[harsh thistle]

I chose CoF and am reaching 60% spell crit chance just from average gear (0 LP stuff) and sorc passive, so it's very doable I think. If you go for merchant's guild it's way easier

[weary hamlet]

1. realize that you want to be playing flame reave
2. contemplate your life choices
3. realize that you don't have to be playing flame reave
4. rejoice!

[snow tangle]

but mah flame reave 😭

its okay i'm coping with minrolls leveling build

[lilac anchor]

whats CoF? sorry not yet up to date with all the aberviations

[wispy rune]

circle of fortune

[lilac anchor]

thats the one where you dont have to worry about gold farmers right?

[wispy rune]

yea, just increases some drop rates and the like

[lilac anchor]

sweet

[idle coral]

Has anyone tried an ignite build with the Conflagrate node from Enchant Weapon?
If there is a way to stack ignites fast I think this could be very powerful

Not sure what could be used for the best ignite stacking

[crude ember]

"spell crit" is increased crit chance or crit multiplier?

[wispy rune]

chance

[crude ember]

ok ty

[stuck fable]

hmm ice fc/nova frostbite,,, rm or sorc?

[long hedge]

Can somebody tp me to Majelka upper district

[wispy rune]

sorc is rly good/fun with changes

[stuck fable]

ok gonna try with sorc

[verbal palm]

hello, i am currently looking into manastacking lightning sorc build, (https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AvZwJr1A, this is just one of many identical builds) but i'm curious as to why they all try to get the 3x1 Large arcane idol that give you "+(7% to 19%) Increased Cast Speed while you have Lightning Aegis," I can't seem to find a node that gives lightning aegis in the build

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (65) / Runemaster (28)

General:

▸ Health: 1,066, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 1,149, Regen: 17/s
▸ Ward Retention: 504%, Regen: 186/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 132 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 81% / 69% / 81% / 69% / 66% / 82% / 99%
▸ EHP: 2,029 / 1,905 / 2,029 / 2,642 / 1,862 / 2,029 / 2,029

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 44%, Threshold: 213
▸ Armor Mitigation: 56% (3,821)

Damage Types:

▸ Lightning, Fire / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Static Orb (26)
• Lightning Blast (23)
• Flame Ward (20)
• Flame Rush (23)
• Focus (20)

Used unique items:

• Triboelectra
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip

This build has a guide:

1.1 Mana Lightning Sorcerer Early Build Guide (Extensive Time Stamps) by Pinchingloaf

[stuck fable]

think ill use these skills though
fc/fw/tele/aa/ib or fw

[wispy rune]

well, just make sure u decntly utilize sorc passive 😂

[grizzled lily]

it is on static orb

[verbal palm]

chunkypapa im blind thanks man

[restive panther]

does this work with LB procs? Or do I actually have to cast it myself?

[rocky anvil]

No need to direct cast LB to trigger Lightning Aegis. There are a lot of builds up from 1.0 (And I think a few for 1.1 as well) on maxroll that use Lightning Aegis without directly casting LB

[restive panther]

thanks for the quick answer! I guess it's just the low proc rate then that's making it seems like it's not proccing

[barren rain]

When rune of Ascendencing a offhand catalyst, do I need to do it on a Rune Stone Off hand Catalyst to try get Fragment of Enigma? Or does any offhand catalyst work

[restive panther]

the base doesn't matter afaik

[barren rain]

Ah cool ty ty

[weary hamlet]

the issue of flame reave is that it has absolutely dog sh it scaling, you can stack what - 300 flat damage on it? 400? But it doesn't matter if it's 135%

[weary hamlet]

most mage ignite builds use this if they have a spec slot. I was runnign it on ignite glyph of dominion last season, works great (in as much as that build as a whole "works great")

[rocky anvil]

The most issue I have with Spellblade in general is that almost all skills have nodes that proc spells while the class itself scales off melee so you always get a conflict of interest.

Or they proc spells that have ailments or other spell procs that have the spell tag instead of the melee tag...

[wispy rune]

whats the best way to use frostwall? like placement wise for clearing and/or bosses

[weary hamlet]

Yeah they try to force the synergy between melee and spells but it mostly isn't there, you can make a sort of a proc build that scales spell damage but then your melee is only a (bad) vehicle for delivery for all those procs. Although there were some improvements on this front with this patch as some of he new passives seem to be mostly helpful for these kinds of builds, like, say, Prodigy (threshold). They still have a long way to go to make more hybrid builds a reality.

[opaque stag]

Whats the best option for Spark Charge? Sorc and Forst Claw or Spellblade and Mana Strike?

[coarse egret]

Does anyone know: My Flame Ward gives me increased damage while active. When I use Meteor, does it count in the moment I cast the spell, or does it have to be up when the meteors actually hit?

[nimble shoal]

Skills snapshot when you cast/proc them

[uneven horizon]

Guys, is there any way competitive to focus to generate mana? I'm looking for a way to make chanelling more sustainable without stopping and using focus

[wispy rune]

its very useful with getting you out of negative mana and requires u to have a high max mana

[coarse egret]

yeah it's great for Meteor, but I could imagine for channeling skills it's a bit more annoying to Focus in between...

[uneven horizon]

exactly!

[coarse egret]

so the mana regen while channeling is low now? Haven't tested it yet

if you get obscene amounts of mana regen on your gear and skill tree?

[uneven horizon]

I mean it is there, but the channeling costs are higher. Overall I would say it feels better, cause with things like water shrine its super nice

yeah, if only we could bump the base mana regen :p

[nimble shoal]

It used to be 0 while channeling almost all skills, now it's normal, but those affected skills got extra channel cost

[lime jungle]

Does anyone play using invocation spec or nah? I guess it is just the worst of the 3 specs?

[next horizon]

I have big trouble choosing affixe its always an hard decision between mana/mana reg & mana spent as ward and also all defensive like crit avoidance etc

U need to do the perfect balance since if u have to many mana spent as ward but no ward retention its useless etc

[thick rover]

u can get all 3

[olive violet]

why do you have no ward retention?

go frostbite shackles and pewpew

[next horizon]

not rly when u play hc u have to make strong choice on some pieces

also yes u can have as affixe mana + mana spent as ward but where do u get ur dmg afterall ?

[proven haven]

biased but I think my echo clear pace is faster than any other build, 1 clicks packs and most rares at 300c with bad gear - streamed all so far. lvl 98 + 8 harbies down

[finite canyon]

Hey fellow mages, has anyone tried a spellblade build with elemental nova? I was thinking something like ice shards chance on melle attacks specced to trigger elem nova

[wheat marten]

Whats the best way to find harbinger of stars?

[olive violet]

buy it from merchants guild

[wheat marten]

I went cof. Is there a specific boss that drops it? Or just target farm belts

[wispy rune]

target farm beltz

[wheat marten]

Ok thx

[minor wasp]

I wish I could give you mine @wheat marten, dropped early from nemesis

[wispy rune]

yea i got 2 early from nemisis. 1 with lp and 1 with 2 mediocre stats

[wheat marten]

Found a 2nd transient rest though with almost perfect stats but no lp

[sacred ruin]

Disingerate spark charge dew it

[lime jungle]

is the goal with mage that you go int instead of health?

[weary hamlet]

No, your options to regen mana are fairly limited. At lower pool, meteor refund + free spell from teleport are good, so is mana strike. At higher pools, it's either focus or mana refund on crit in glacier, if you are building for crit that is.

[weary hamlet]

runemaster is fine, it was hilariously OP just in the previous patch

[minor wasp]

Nemesis is actually brilliant.
By level 40 i found 2 x hummingbee, Yrun’s Penance, and Snowdrift boots. Frostbite build is officially online

[lime jungle]

o no i missed out then D:

[wheat marten]

Do you look for nemesis in every echo? Or just when you find it

[minor wasp]

Just when you find it. They aren’t in every echo

[weary hamlet]

they have about 50% chance of spawing, maybe less. You should make a quick sweep of the most likely places where it can spawn, but it's usually not worth your time to check every last corner of larger echo maps

[wheat marten]

Oh ok. I've been speedrunning echos since I finished the campaign. Only lvl 71 though

[wispy rune]

i tbh just clear like usual unless i see the message lmao

[lime jungle]

how do i know where the most likely places are?

[soft sonnet]

So how does Ignivar's head work with the lightning form of disintegrate? because I thought it didnt scale with fire dmg

[lunar pond]

what got changed this patch?

[weary hamlet]

most of the easy ways to stack ward were nerfed, ward retention formula in general was nerfed, and 30% free DR from CFC invo was removed

[weary hamlet]

which parts of it? the more damage for crit? sure, it works

[soft sonnet]

Would going pure fire dmg instead be higher dps? Im not sure how good mana stacking is

[weary hamlet]

I'm too lazy to do the math but without an absolutely massive mana pool (3k ish) the lightning build doesn't seem to be significantly ahead, if at all. That -60% multi node is brutal.

Fire also has a hidden 15% more node in the sorc tree (damage against spreading flames)

[icy forge]

hmm, glacier sorc or plasma ball runemaster?

[lime spruce]

i feel like sorc is the play this patch since there seems to be a lot of builds you can do around it

[soft sonnet]

Hm, I may have to grind some gear and try to go fire instead then. im decked out in lightning dmg

[lunar pond]

i see, i am trying them this time around and it does seem squishier but im still leveling so i figured was that

i want to make a build around runic invocation 's runic energizer node... not sure how viable it is or how to scale it well, the runic invocations themselves are pretty varied and some even look damage over time focused that wont even scale with crit or even ailment focused which wouldnt scale with spell damage. any suggestions on how to go about it?

[lime jungle]

why do items have + lightning but no + fire damage sadge

[weary hamlet]

the nerfs were basically irrelevant at lower levels, but at endgame you can no longer maintain easy tens of thousands of ward

[cerulean plinth]

Do I need to go all the way through chapter 9 on my first character to get CoF? Just got all my idols and passives and just want to blast monos rn

[lunar pond]

are you online? people can give you a port... i got it at lv19

[cerulean plinth]

I forgot about that, ty

[weary hamlet]

if you use runebolt as your rune generator you can use focused runebolts to hopefully rng into different combinations, otherwise random bulls hit go invo builds that just invocated whatever used to be a somewhat popular meme back around rm release in 0.9.2. It's not that they are necessarily terrible but they are obviously behind more focused builds, and you'll need to buld things like generic spell/elemental damage that have worse roll ranges and worse synergy with passives and whatnot

[weary hamlet]

if you get there from the sanctum you only need to run through one outdoor zone to get to majelka where you can pick it up

[cerulean plinth]

Yeah, this is my first character and I'm playing SSF. People in global chat are saying I can't tele to people in SSF apparently? So I guess I'm blasting the rest of the campaign

[weary hamlet]

no idea, I dont play ssf. But it's not a large challenge and also since your favor/rep gains are low at low levels, you aren't missing out on much

[cerulean plinth]

true true

At least I can skip all side quests and just zerg main

[lunar pond]

yeah thats what i was thinking... youd be trying to makeup the worse gear/synergies with just the runic energy... not sure if its even worth doing the triple runic energy cap node even. youd be able to consistently proc the 12 energy auto cast but i'm not sure how viable it is mana wise and runemaster doesnt have as much synergy with mana as sorc. odd amt of damage over time passives when thats the least there is in runic invocations @.@ i was hoping there would be some generic damage scaling i could dive into somehow like charge stacking/attributestacking/mana stacking in poe to be able to scale ALL the invocations at once.

random runebolt go might work, but for a focused build tid feel best if i was manually doing the spells and straight up doing every (or skipping the godawful ones) invocation once. its doable if you keep a system.. but trying to remember two dozen specific combinations might be too much for me

[spring kite]

ive got a spellblade question. I am looking at a maxroll guide, and they start using Deft Dragoraths Claw - but the build doesnt use frost claw at all. its shatter strike mainly. any idea why?

[weary hamlet]

the problem is that the UI/UX of manually using individual invocations sucks especially at high cast speed, or otherwise you will be forced to intentionally use them slowly to avoid faulty input/input lag/jumbling up the runes and you are just intentionally nerfing yourself at that point

[weary hamlet]

link the build, we'll take a look

[spring kite]

cool thank you! https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/shatter-strike-spellblade-guide#loot-filter-header

[lunar pond]

not just input lag, ive screwed up cause of hitstun making me skip a cast and hitting invocation prematurely @.@ theres no ui feedback on how many stacks you have or if your next cast would be a new one either which makes it rough. maybe the build itself just isnt viable with how the game currently is setup in the endgame cause of what you described

[lunar pond]

iirc shatterstrike procs frost claw

[spring kite]

i thought it must be something like that. but I cannot find the node saying it

[weary hamlet]

idk why they would call that a "shatter strike" build cause while it happens to use shatter strike its damage has f uck all to do with it, you are just stacking up static charges. Which I guess is just how it goes for every mage build as long as this dumb unique keeps existing. IF you are not building static charges, you are just gim ping yourself. Anyways the point is to have as many hits as possible, and by using triggered frost claw from SB passive and/or FC's own tree, you can pad your number of hits per second to get more charges. The claw's base stats are also good, flat crit, all res, crit multi etc.

[weary hamlet]

warden's echo although they don't seem to take it, idk haven't played this build, might be an error or intentional choice

[wanton bison]

Any ideas how i can use that crazy t5sealed affix with my disintegrate runemaster? And that critical strike chance, not sure is it works with my D or i should use spell crit only?

[spring kite]

yeah right now im doing firebrand into shatter strike for my damage, but was looking to convert into a static charge build, but this unique choice was confusing me

[cerulean plinth]

flame ward is sick

[weary hamlet]

disintegrate doesn't hit so it can't crit, but if you use Ignivar's Head unique you can benefit from crit chance. Also the levels of flame ward are whatever since you don't lack for points, as you cannot go into the armor/block nodes because you want to avoid converting your fire auras to cold

[wanton bison]

I use Ignivar atm, so i dont need specific "spell crit chance" that one usual crit strike chance worked too?

[weary hamlet]

generic crit increases your spell crit too

[wanton bison]

Thanks alot for explaining:)

[wispy rune]

is there an easy way to see my %crit chance modifier? liek 550% or w.e? or do i have to reverse count ti from the stats screen

[candid stone]

how does Glacier sorc do bosses? even with 1200 mana I can do like 10% of a boss hp before im oom with no recovery

[wispy rune]

uses ice barrage for single target usually.

[merry veldt]

I'm currently playing Fireball and it feels less clunky in point blank range then I remember from 1.0
Does that make any sense? Was there a change (possibly) helping here?

[verbal meteor]

Is there a bug with Ice wall and flame ward?
First, it is a fire flame wall and not a lightning one?
Secondly, i dont get my flame ward when i go through it?

[barren belfry]

anyone playing frost claw with spark charges? where do I get single target dmg from?

[candid stone]

idk its working for me

[verbal meteor]

Might have to try and respecialize it then.. I tried restarting game

[verbal meteor]

Is your frost* wall tree similar to mine?

[candid stone]

pm'd you

[wispy rune]

did u summon ur wall ontop of urself?

[verbal meteor]

I've tried summoning multiple ways

[cerulean plinth]

1 shot lagon pog. sorc op

[verbal meteor]

I have 0 unique items

[wispy rune]

im using flame wall so not lightning

but if i place too close to myself it doesnt give me flame ward

[verbal meteor]

With no spec into frost wall, it still goes to fire xD

[wispy rune]

whats its dmg tho? might just be visual

[verbal meteor]

DUUUUDE @candid stone

[candid stone]

XD I just found one and realised

[lime jungle]

@merry veldt i didnt play 1.0 but point black seems to miss flying characters and sometimes hits ground units and go through them idk its hard to tell

[verbal meteor]

Success

[merry veldt]

For me it feels like an improvement to 1.0, but not sure if that is just my reception/skills whatever or if actually something was changed

[lime jungle]

i feel like we are probs the only fireball users so we may never know

[cerulean plinth]

I'm a fireball user. Just only 52 atm :p

[lime jungle]

what have you put points into? i did the bottom right dot and spreading talents

[cerulean plinth]

this atm. I'm not going off a build path or anything. just me messing around with stuff

[merry veldt]

Key nodes are Embers, Homing and Flameburst for me, then adding a bit of pierce and crit

[lime jungle]

is the multishot stuff nice? it kinda confused me so i didnt try it yet

[cerulean plinth]

I like it

[merry veldt]

Imo you need Embers/Flameburst for boss dmg later on from my very humble experience

[lime jungle]

i guess its nice cause each fireball would add a stack of ignite

[cerulean plinth]

I'm not really doing an ignite build atm

[lime jungle]

o i figured it would still be decent dot damage without the other talents

[merry veldt]

I have no clue about ignite potential here, myself more a beginner on this build

[cerulean plinth]

it prob is idk. like I said I'm clueless and kinda yoloing it atm

[harsh abyss]

Yeah the fireball ignite build is very strong. That's what I've been using for leveling and it tears bosses apart

[cerulean plinth]

do you mind sharing your fireball tree

I wish there was a way to drop a side quest completely. I didn't mean to grab this one ree

[harsh abyss]

It's pretty similar to yours. The only real difference is that I'm probably specifically stacking ignite

[cerulean plinth]

gotcha

[lime jungle]

I can show my tree right now but if you get over 100% igniter chance it says it an double proc so with skill tree and passive tree you can get there

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, you don't stop stacking ignite chance at 100%, I currently have like a 300% chance to ignite per fireball, so one cast of the spell stacks like 12 stacks of ignite.

I'm transitioning towards a Meteor build, but getting lots of ignite stacks makes early game stuff a super breeze.

[cerulean plinth]

damn that's nice

[lime jungle]

I’m a rune master so I guess I can never try meteor right?

[harsh abyss]

Not on that character, but if you get some leveling gear, you'll be able to level another character suuuuuper fast

[cerulean plinth]

I'm just using meteor for craterborn atm

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, for a fireball centric build that's definitely good support

[cerulean plinth]

and any huge aoe packs

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, I like Meteor a lot because it's a big kaboom

[lime jungle]

Is meteor kinda like the three fire rune attack?

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, except on a delay and does way more damage

[cerulean plinth]

any recommendation on how I should spend my last 4 points?

[green mauve]

am I blind or this doesnt work together?

when casting fireball it shots lots of projs, but fireballs from desintegrate dont work this way

[harsh abyss]

If you're just using it to clear packs and stuff, Apocalyptic Impact is good. But since you're already taking Twin Meteors, you might as well take Meteor Shower

[cerulean plinth]

it does, but the # of fireballs you cast is based on how long you channel disintegrate. and it only shoots them off at the end of the cast and there is a cap on how many can be thrown

[green mauve]

but those fireballs points only add more projs, so effectively it doesnt work.

[cerulean plinth]

it's def not as good as I was hoping it'd be

[green mauve]

Yeah, had this idea, because desintegrate was really good at the start, will try to get other things instead in fireball tree

[cerulean plinth]

glgl

[frank widget]

is Infernal Column (meteors in a line) worth it? i feel like i have a hard time killing priority targets because my meteors have a will of their own

[harsh abyss]

I don't think I've ever seen a build that uses it. Mostly with meteors you want them all to target a single big enemy if you're using them for single target dps

[sour thicket]

Man Disintergate looks so good but it's sad the Laser focus node is such a bad toxic node

[hazy dust]

Does anyone of u guys have a disintegrate build with lightening instead of fire Beam??

[sour thicket]

No but you should just stack mana is the answer

[hazy dust]

why? dont want to play the build 99,9% of people playing

[sour thicket]

I didn't ask. I answered your question

[torn merlin]

Is knowledge of an erased mage good on glacier sorcerer?

[earnest leaf]

can spark charges + ward gained as mana be proc'd off proc'd meteors? 🧐

[harsh abyss]

Maybe, and no

mana spent gained as ward doesn't work on any proc, haven't tested if the spark charges work but probably not

[earnest leaf]

assumed not, thanks

[shell fern]

so what invocation is now go to for rms that don't play plasma orb or hydrahedron? still cfc or ppl use other invocations now?

[sacred ruin]

You have to take hyper focus if you're taking that node, and it's really hard to scale your mana up enough to make it worth it

i'm not gonna lie Disintegrate is pretty dog doodoo

[half pollen]

Yeah, disintegrate really needs a rework now. Even more than before the patch

[dark jay]

lagon harbinger is so broken

it's impossible to dodge tidal wave + boss attacks at the same time, and each attack deals like 2k per hit why is it always this boss

[errant shadow]

Is the game harder ? Because the first levels feel like hell. I die in two hits at lvl 5

[half pollen]

Just stand on the stairs man. The only thing that can hit you there are the waves and the circle attack

[dark jay]

i'm talking about the harbinger that comes after

[half pollen]

Oh, nvm then

[dark jay]

small arena + tidal waves coming both sides + the boss has non telegraphed auto attacks, it's nasty

[rich badger]

is it just me or is meteor crap for single target in your face bosses

[dark jay]

i'm using it for bossing, at 200 corruption so far, single target is alright but need to stack aoe to overlap

[proper hawk]

Did they never fix the tentacles that are supposed to prevent you from walking down the stairs?

[weary hamlet]

Nah it needs a rework less than before, what it needs is good numbers. Double it's damage at baseline or something

[rich badger]

being locked into place and spamming is brutal

[onyx river]

for someone with very little time on their hands and no time for alt classes, should I go sorc or runemaster

[primal comet]

Sorc!

[half pollen]

None of the new gimmick nodes are interesting besides the mana reduction buff imo

[thick rover]

runemaster gear will be cheaper

[weary hamlet]

Well the proc nodes are a dud for sure, tbh I don't see why the skill needs them at all. It should have synergy with say vo by maintaining its duration while you channel, or same for orbiting so

[half pollen]

yeah, that would be interesting! Fireballs would be fine too if they procced craterborne imo

[open void]

50% more damage vs 90% crit multiplier , which is better ?

[primal comet]

If it's "more damage", then that.

[dull salmon]

I'm using it to shoot fireballs. Seems pretty decent. Just wish the targeting were better, but on bosses it's fine.

Meteor/disintegrate/fireball at least feels like the most damage I've dealt during the campaign. Sustain is fine - I use focus as movement and only use disintegrate on bosses.

Once respeccing is less of a problem I want to do some tests on shooting fireballs per second. It feels like it's impacted by cast speed, but that's anecdotal.

[cerulean plinth]

I enjoy flame rush too much not to take it

[autumn crypt]

I didn't expect it but I am enjoying Allie's meteor build

[barren belfry]

currently trying different frost claw builds but im struggling with single target dps 🤔
my mana pools shrinks way to fast compared to boss's hp

[cloud drift]

I literally just stumbled upon this guide did you just start or deep into the build? Think I will go this direction glacier seems to slow and mana hungry

[autumn crypt]

started at level 30 and now at level 50 it's getting better. Good thing is that it's not a build that depends on uniques which makes it a good cycle starter

[undone forum]

is runemaster easy to play? like plasma orb build or something

[oblique dock]

dude I really wanted to play this build but everyone said it was very much hard to play and learn..https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/plasma-orb-runemaster-guide

[undone forum]

thats what im asking 😛 i also want to know

[mild token]

I'm currently level 76, manastacking glacier (600) build - Not a massive fan of the spell. Any recommendations to change it up?

[rapid vortex]

Is disintegrate a good skill to build around?

[undone forum]

thats what im playing right know but its kinda mwhe

[finite cobalt]

I'm in the same boat but at the same time it clears everything so easily so far, I don't want to bother respeccing lol

[mild token]

Yeah I just got to empowered monoliths and am feeling a bit bored of it - Thought it was now or never to try something else

[cloud drift]

Is single target damage ok? That is my only concern though she has this thing clearing higher level monos so I would think it’s not terrible on bosses

[cerulean plinth]

is it worth full clearing an echo in the change a harbinger is there somewhere? most times I full clear I find one

[minor wasp]

Is anyone at 10k corruption with the busted Sorc build yet? Shouldnt be long til they are

[cerulean plinth]

10k? monka

[undone forum]

or plasma orb any good and easy or hard to play?

[molten quiver]

is frost claw still good as it was in last season?

[lime spruce]

not on runemaster, but maybe the sorc one is ok

[ruby tinsel]

which one are you talking about

[unreal breach]

Not in your life... this game is built around walking, evading and teleporting. Even if chanelled skills did x10 damage you would still be toast. those skills need some mechanic like mirror images chanelling it, or a complete redesign.

[crude ember]

do i understand correctly if i have 1000 missing mana i get 700 endurance threshold?

[kind fox]

Meteor hella fun

[frosty pewter]

I want an item or skill tree notable that triggers teleport while youre channeling disentegrate

[opaque quiver]

hey, any idea how frost claw is procing for dragorath claw? https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/shatter-strike-spellblade-guide#gear--header

[rapid vortex]

Okay. I guess I’ll start working towards something else. I’m only level 30. What are some good builds this cycle.. I’m very new to this game (60 hours or so) and 1.0 I played a Javelin paladin that I got to 88. Thanks for any advice

[unreal breach]

yeah, but teleports you where? your cursor would be on or in the direction of the enemy.

[earnest leaf]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/builds/filter/version=version110

plenty of 1.1 options for sorc here.

[frosty pewter]

Yeah it would play like poet's pen from PoE if you ever did that build

[rapid vortex]

Thanks

[frosty pewter]

Combine it with triggering volcanic orb or whatever the other trigger is and I think it'd be pretty fun at least, if not good

[frosty bone]

Looking for some glacier vortex cold dot sorcerer but all builds are mana stacks 😢 . Does mana stack works on dot?

[frosty pewter]

Mana stack is the latest rage now because sorcerer gets so much ward from stacking/spending mana so it fixes the defensive nerfs from last season. You could probably take an older cold dot shell and put the new mana stack defensives into it for reasonable results but i haven't seen a build for it

[shell fern]

thats not even the reason most ppl play manastacking. it's to abuse +40mana cost skills to proc a ton of spark charges from arcane current

[frosty pewter]

AFAIK mana stack meteor isn't doing spark charges but I could be wrong

[barren belfry]

neither is glacier
spark charges is just one of some use cases

[frosty pewter]

and like. I don't think the build would be good without all the ward stuff from mana gain/spend/max mana that sorceror got this patch. Pretty sure you could turn that into a defensive shell that gets slotted into any build that can get decent damage otherwise

[shell fern]

90% of mana stacking builds are playing arcane current, any spell that costs more than 40 mana procs spark charge, and with int stacking+fragment of the enigma you do insane amounts of damage in very short time if you abuse aftermath from meteor and just blast your manapool

[barren belfry]

you can't just make numbers up 🤔
it is a viable build which also uses mana stacking, but its not the only build

[shell fern]

it's the only broken build that ppl will abuse until it gets fixed.

[earnest leaf]

Fixed? Is it a bug? They won't address it if it isn't a bug. At least mid-cycle.

[shell fern]

no bug, they just didn't think it through.

[shell egret]

ngl the meteor refund tech feels like ass with bigger manapool compared to focus

[shell fern]

i was thinking of making rm with runebolt and celestial doom

[hearty hearth]

which one? I'm playing meteor

[feral moss]

left should be more damage but right might be better if you need ward, or if you need the flat mana to hit a mana breakpoint, or if you need phys resistance

[hearty hearth]

meteor shows like 2k less dmg with tthe one on right but the guide said use anything that gives mana so i wondered

[feral moss]

has anyone else noticed a bug with Flame Walker? I only have five points in it and no other sources of flame aura, and i sometimes get as high as 6 stacks of flame aura. since it lasts 4 seconds and only procs 1 time per second at most if RNG is favouring me, i don't see how i'm generating so many stacks

[frank widget]

are spark charges worth it on a meteor build that has no other lightning scaling?

[shell fern]

nope, int stacking build with fragment of the enigma.

[feral moss]

meteor is used as a mana generator, not as a main damage applicator

[flat nimbus]

i toyed around with it and didnt really get it to work

[frank widget]

i see

[cerulean plinth]

sadge maint in 20 min

[feral moss]

too many people see "arcane current meteor" and think "oh i need to be using meteor as my applicator for spark charges" but that is incorrect.

the build actually uses frost claw (using the multi-cast runes to raise its mana cost) to apply the spark charges from arcane current. meteor is just in the build because the Aftermath node allows you to regenerate a large amount of mana to offset frost claw's costs.

[flat nimbus]

he was asking about a meteor build though

[frank widget]

yeah i was curious if just picking up the arcane current node + fragment was enough

[quiet mural]

Guys, Calculated destruction It's working correctly? I enabled the passive, I already have 4 points. It says that for every point in intelligence I should gain a 3% critical chance on spells, but when I press C and check the character's information, that's not what happens when I increase my intelligence.

[feral moss]

that bonus of Calculated Destruction doesn't turn on until you've invested a minimum of 5 points into that node. that's why it's called a 5-point bonus

[quiet mural]

True, you're right. I just read the skill description more carefully. Thanks for the answer 😄

[stuck sand]

Hi, I have been farming stolen lance for a few hours but the last 11 special echoes I've had, have all been staff or scepter. How do I get wand or offhand ?

[digital sparrow]

Hi! Whose build are we using now? 😏

[dull salmon]

How does this work? Teleport node to make it free, but then it recovers 48% of its cost?

[harsh abyss]

Basically yeah. Between Mana Tunnel (Teleport) and Archmage (105% chance at 1000 mana to refund 20% mana cost), and Aftermath (16% mana cost per second for 3 seconds), your mana sustain is actually pretty decent.

Add to that that when you're stacking all that mana you're also looking to get mana regen up to 20+ per second, and your mana is in a pretty good place.

[fringe wasp]

any thoughts on when it would be comfortable to trasfer from glacier to meteor with mana stacking? only at like 550-600 mana rn

[harsh abyss]

You'll be fine, just make sure you're using teleport for Mana Tunnel on cooldown. I've only got like 450 and I rarely use my secondary damage skill (Fireball)

And I have enough mana to spam down anything except monolith bosses without needing to regen mana

[feral moss]

but what if instead of going through all that trouble to make a meta build with good stats and good damage, you just went all-in on mana strike and only mana strike

[cerulean plinth]

server back up already damn

[feral moss]

and not lightning mana strike to proc spark charges, either. use the new unique sword for cold mana strike. just thwack them with an icicle over and over and over.

[cerulean plinth]

definitely one of the helmet designs of all time

[feral moss]

at least that one, you could actually see a person wearing and being able to see out of. what in the heck is going on with arcane visage. it has no eye holes

[cerulean plinth]

lmao

[spice gull]

Anyone have a spellblade build they like other than shatterstrike?

[earnest leaf]

that toilet paper drip

[cerulean plinth]

fr

[harsh abyss]

Hear me out: Mana Stacking Mana Strike: At 1000 mana, you'll have 150 flat melee damage and 100% base crit chance. You never need to scale melee crit chance, so you can just focus on damage and crit multi.

[shell fern]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o3PvmXnA opinions on this? leveling rm and goal is something like this.

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1b

Class:

Mage (25) / Sorcerer (27) / Spellblade (5) / Runemaster (54)

General:

▸ Health: 1,096, Regen: 586/s
▸ Mana: 698, Regen: 26/s
▸ Ward Retention: 533%, Regen: 502/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 120 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 41% / 17% / 41% / 54% / 61% / 57% / 18%
▸ EHP: 1,194 / 1,013 / 1,194 / 1,595 / 1,402 / 1,360 / 1,019

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 219
▸ Armor Mitigation: 40% (2,268)

Damage Types:

▸ Lightning, Fire, Cold / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Runebolt (24)
• Flame Ward (20)
• Runic Invocation (20)
• Flame Rush (20)
• Static Orb (20)

Used unique items:

• Celestial Doom
• Vessel of Strife
• Oceareon
• Ferebor's Persistence

[onyx river]

chances they nerf a build midpatch even if there's no bug?

[glossy mountain]

Not likely

[dusty sage]

what build you think they will nerf?

[onyx river]

mana stacking sorc

[earnest leaf]

track record says they won't. It will be next cycle unless it is actually a bug.

[dusty sage]

whats a good leveling build for runemaster?

[feral moss]

that's the build i'm doing actually 🙂 with macuahitl on frost claw for even more damage since it also scales with melee flat damage and it's just nice extra hits.

and i'm using damage to mana before health as my main defensive layer so that i have a use for all the mana i'm generating

[dusty sage]

got a link to planner you can message me with?

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, and because you're constantly generating it with mana strike.

Glamdring won't work with the flat damage from Mana Strike though, it only works on flat damage added to your character, like from weapons and passives.

[feral moss]

i am aware of this from a previous discussion i was part of in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs but since flat melee cold damage is still the best stat to get for the purpose of cold mana strike anyway, it's still fine.

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, makes sense

[feral moss]

the build isn't finalized yet (in terms of, not sure what my mainhand weapon should be while yrun's penance is in my offhand), but it's mostly set.

the main question is whether to use apogee for the base melee damage, or if i should go dragorath's because of the flat crit chance and the ability to add even more hits through lightning blast.

i'm pretty sure apogee is better for the raw damage but i still need to math out to be sure. it's possible the bonus lightning blasts proccing more armour shred is actually enough to tip it. plus the all-resistance from dragorath's could be good.

[karmic cradle]

Any op mage build?

[waxen mortar]

why do you need Sorcerer for melee Mana Strike? 1000 mana for defense purpose only?

[harsh abyss]

That, and there's a lot of mana on the later parts of the sorc tree that you can't get elsewhere.

[kind fox]

Allies mana meteor has been buttery smooth up to empowered mono's so far.

[harsh abyss]

And, the way I'm planning to do it is: High mana mana strike triggers meteors with harbinger of the stars, and you use max mana scaling from Static Orb, so all the things you do are benefitting from max mana.

Then also, you don't have to scale crit chance at all, so you can focus on scaling crit multi to boost your damage.

[feral moss]

i started my build out as a sorceror but after enough tinkering, i think spellblade is actually better for it. more synergy with mana strike and you really don't need the nodes in sorceror

i guess if you're doing a mana strike -> harbinger build, you'll need sorceror for access to meteor tree.

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, exactly

And you can stack up Rune Sap for a pretty significant boost to spell damage.

[waxen mortar]

aah, i see. then it's logical and have a point. i thought Mana strike your main damage )

[harsh abyss]

since you're using your prefixes for mana, intelligence and crit damage, having that "increased" damage boost is super valuable.

Mana Strike will still probably be one of your main damages, but it's important to spec into other things that will synergize well with it.

[shut escarp]

I thought that triggered skills cant trigger skills, but I just witnessed the harbinger of stars belt draining 700 mana after casting meteor once

[harsh abyss]

And by being a Sorcerer instead of Spellblade, you're only actually missing out on 8% attack speed from the passive tree. Other than that, you've got other bonuses that work pretty well together on both trees.

You don't need Prodigy because you're already maxing crit, you aren't stacking up a bunch of fire auras, you aren't doing a builder/spender thing with high mana cost attack, etc.

[feral moss]

a) meteor be expensive
b) harbinger of stars triggers "on crit" not "on spell use and crit at least one enemy", so if the attack you use hits multiple times or multiple enemies, it can proc harbinger multiple times off of one attack

[shut escarp]

👍

[feral moss]

for example if you're using the +2 meteors node in meteor, and you cast it once, you could potentially spend 126 (initial) + 126 x3 (all 3 initial meteors crit and trigger harbinger)

[hearty hearth]

when i go up +1 spell dmg my meteor shows +3k dmg on tooltip, is that normal?

[shy marlin]

Can someone enlighten me, why in a frost claw build people seem to stack damage over time rather than plain cold damage?

[feral moss]

900% added damage effectiveness go brrr

[waxen mortar]

do not believe tooltip 🙂
test with dummy or mobs

[feral moss]

last cycle i lost my entire 1000 mana pool because i shot a single fireball into a crowd of weak enemies, it pierced through all of them and trigger my harbinger over and over and over with nothing to hit. 😦

[harsh abyss]

lol

[dry bramble]

any disintigrate runemasters? im curious if ur using any invocations

[waxen mortar]

i thought the best way to drain your mana is Black hole' node Armageddon. ))

[feral moss]

my main question is, how are you attacking often enough to trigger harbinger with any degree of consistency. mana strike doesn't multihit after all

last cycle even with fireball (5 fireballs per cast + Rune Blast proccing on 5th cast for 6 hits per cast, casting 3 times per second for a total of 18 crits per second) i still felt like meteor was too inconsistent. sometimes on monolith bosses you'd get unlucky dry spells of no meteors for a while

[astral helm]

wish me luck yall, im doing my first "no guide" run, gonna do disintegrate and snap freeze then add on rune stuff as i unlock it

[harsh abyss]

Well, you use Mana Arc to trigger additional hits/crits, but also you aren't relying on just that interaction. You're also using teleport -> Static Orb, or if that doesn't feel good, teleport -> manual meteor cast, and then you can do things like have other triggered spells that can crit that can also proc harbinger, etc, etc.

Though, I'm not 100% sure if it will feel better than just... casting meteor over and over 😝 It might be that it's just not as good/fun as just casting the big kaboom.

[feral moss]

do you know if mana arc does cold damage / scales with cold damage if mana strike is converted to cold by yrun's

[harsh abyss]

I don't think so, but I'm not an expert on how triggered spells react to conversion. I don't think Mana Spark converts either.

[umbral crescent]

guys, anyone started with exploding ground is having problems with mana? Simply can't clear packs here at the first acts

[waxen mortar]

well, for harbinger is:
Mana strike + Mana storm (arc) few hits procs Frost claw ( at least 5 hits) and constant Static orb with tens of hits.
at least one should proc Meteor xD

[waxen mortar]

but the problem is Mana Arc is different spell triggered by Mana strike, so it will not have 100% crit chance from Celestial prescn node. You need to stuck up crit chance

[harsh abyss]

Well, you're already stacking up spell crit with int stacking so it will have a decent crit chance, but remember you arent relying on harbinger procs, its just an added bonus.

[feral moss]

asked here, hope ehg responds
#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[dusky pelican]

Must say, I like the new disintegrate, although a bit squishy at the moment just before empowered, think the dmg is quite fine 😄 (doing fire version)

But I do feel like the tooltip dps might be exxagerating a bit, cuz prolyl not tkaign into account the dmg reduction through res

[sour thicket]

I just wish Lightning Disintegate wasn't awful

[dusky pelican]

Shouldn't that be on par with the fire version?

being able to use shock to your advantage, and a wee bit better proc-utility?

[sour thicket]

But if you wanna Mana stack is just really unfortunate

[dusky pelican]

How so? I am mana stacking ab it as well (only at 600) tooltip is reaching 500k, and with flame ward up even till 700k (but ofc this is not perma uptime)

I don't expect lightning version to be much less? Cuz then the procs might be better bec faster shock application?

• Cuz fireball (semi) nor volcanic orb have synergy with fire dot as far as I can see?

[cerulean kite]

they locked the mana stacking node behind a node that gives -60% damage to all multipliers

[dusky pelican]

ahh I see, And upside is no cost... ok ok,, but yeah the shock is being applied as well ofc, idunno how the ratio is

[lofty creek]

Is Runemaster still strongest subclass?

[dusky pelican]

That is all relative... they can all three be "strong"...

[astral helm]

i have 11 mana regen shards, i have an open affix slot and 21 potential to use on a ring, any reason why my mana regen shards are greyed out in the forge??? wish I could upload an image... nevermind, didnt know mana regen was a prefix

[lofty creek]

It wasn't relative at all before kek. I don't know if it's still the same, hence asking

[spice gull]

Any spellblade builds that use Volcanus? I feel that weapon screams for flame reave

[proper hawk]

Actually, mana arc is a subskill so it should inherit celestial precision from mana strike AFAIK

[cerulean plinth]

still using a rare belt at 73 lol. pain

[spice gull]

Anyone know what magma shards is?

Is this meant for a forge guard?

[astral helm]

so if i have 12 mana regen per second and disintegrate costs only 1 mana to channel, why is my mana still draining when using it? im trying to find the sweet spot where it is infinite

[humble copper]

Can anyone direct me to a strong disintegrate build guide? Sorry if this has been asked before

[cerulean plinth]

love when a "belt of embers" gives me cold damage. got my hopes up 😦

[sour thicket]

10 fully cleared maps. no nemesis

[astral helm]

oof

[cerulean plinth]

I've stopped fully clearing for that reason

[feral moss]

magma shards is not a forgeguard skill, it is its own thing tied specifically to volcanus. like getting extra sprinkles on your cupcake

[sour thicket]

Well if I add my non full clear (I started full clearing because of this) I haven't seen a nemesis in 20+ maps

[spice gull]

oh LOL make sense

[sour thicket]

Full cleared 14 maps! finally found one

20+ maps non clear no nemesis. 14 fully cleared 1 nemesis

And thanks nemesis

[cerulean plinth]

holy

[spice gull]

wtf

[feral moss]

i'm pretty sure you're better off just objective rushing to spawn nemeses anyway.

the rate at which you can look for a nemesis scales primarily by linear distance covered, since the game notifies you of a nemesis near you in a pretty wide margin. backtracking and going back n forth full clearing zones is wasting a lot of that search radius.

instead of running through one entire map and covering a search area of one map, you're better off rushing through 1/5th of 5 maps because the game will notify you of nemeses that exist beyond your visual range as you travel.

[sour thicket]

They just need to tell you at the beginning of a map that a nemesis is available

[feral moss]

they do if one spawns near enough. you can literally just enter and reload over and over if you want.

but the nemesis appearance rate is so high i don't think it's worth going out of your way specifically for them. i found 6 just doing chapters 1~3 of the story on a new character last night

[lyric obsidian]

The problem is they're very common in the campaign and rare in mono's. Unlike the experimental items which seems like every other map.

[oblique dock]

I got some questions about this build, https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/plasma-orb-runemaster-guide

1- People say it is very hard to learn and play, is that right?
2- How about leveling a mage for this build, is it fun or easy or a pain?
3- Hows clearing speed and survive.

If anyone tried this build, please answer? Thanks

[proven patio]

Why do all spark charge sorcerer builds go for a lightning blast tree? Doesn't seem to make sense to me

[sour thicket]

Spark Charge can be buffed in Lightning Blast

[proven patio]

But you have to use lightning blast for it to apply right

[errant grotto]

How good is Glacier in the endgame? Kinda like leveling with it

[sour thicket]

Very

[harsh abyss]

You can auto trigger lightning blast in a variety of ways, like Dagorath's Claw, Static, or Enchant Weapon

[still matrix]

Is the best weapon for FC SC build a wand? I'm trying to decide what uniques to bang with runes.

[low sinew]

Yo guys, in Patch 1.1 what is the strongest mage ?

[silent lark]

Does % increased damage while channeling not show up in tooltip dps? I have 2 staves: https://i.imgur.com/chydmLa.png and https://i.imgur.com/l1hQQzy.png yet the 2nd one is only a 400 dps increase for me. I assumed it would've been larger for disintegrate.

[feral moss]

dev response
#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[languid notch]

Is the frostbite on snap freeze bugged? It's just not applying sometimes idk why.

[harsh abyss]

Oh damn, thats really good. So mana arc plus spark charge nodes mean every mana strike is 4 hits (crits)

That work really well for me because I'm doing a Vilatria build. So every point of Int adds flat spell damage, which will affect mana arc, spark charges and meteors.

[feral moss]

cries in cold damage

[harsh abyss]

That means they'll auto crit, which adds more to the value of my crit multi scaling as well.

[small remnant]

hi guys

do you think runemaster is dead ?

[harsh abyss]

No, it's just not massively overpowered any more 😝

[frosty pewter]

Mana stack meteor is feeling crazy good so far

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, it's a very straightforward build, no fuss just big damage

[uncut vessel]

is there a leveling build that can speed through the campaign into monos that can swap to mana stack? Is the maxroll runemaster leveling the best?

[harsh abyss]

Honestly you can just start with meteor.

[proven haven]

So I think it's safe to say Frost Claw Sorc should absolutely be considered top tier as a speed clear leveling mage spec.

I didn't do a proper push for Rank 1 (got distracted by harbingers) but my lvl 99 to 100 (293M to 405M exp) time was 3h32m - almost twice the pace of the Rank 1 finish mage using glacier - bonkers speed. Sample: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2194863317?t=4h18m39s

[uncut vessel]

Awesome thanks, The runemaster leveling uses frost claw so I assume its the same build but on sorc instead?

[proven haven]

I am not familiar with any maxroll build, but I did my own FC Sorc setup using the new spark charge passive. Personally I'd recommend leveling to about 55 with Glacier until you have enough passives to grab the spark charge node, then respec into Frost Claw (setup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrDFooDWruI)

[uncut vessel]

beauty thank you

[proven haven]

And here is my current planner: https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/FrozenSentinel/character/SecretWeapon - this setup seems solid. Strongly recommend those skills / passives

[uncut vessel]

I like a lot of that, thank you very much 🙂

[dry bramble]

is it possible to get to a point that you donjt need focus in a disintigrate build?

im trying to figure out a invocation for my disintigrate build i really wanna somehow get the ice armor one

but so long as i need focus its impossible

[harsh abyss]

You might be able to take laser focus + hyperfocus, then you'll never need to focus. You'll just need to stack like 900-1200 mana to make it so it doesn't hugely nerf your damage

[dry bramble]

yea, i personally feel like if ur gonna mana stack u should go sorc tho not runemaster

maybe going endurance since runemaster has stuff for that with max mana

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, I don't feel like sorc is necessary for mana stacking. It definitely makes it easier, but it's plenty fine on RM too. Especially since Mana Shell is such a low tier node for the Sorc tree

[dry bramble]

i wonder how tanky i would be with a full endurance build with the 30% dr from ice armor invocation

[harsh abyss]

It doesn't give DR any more, that was removed this patch because it was massively OP

[dry bramble]

ah. ill need to look at the patch noites again

[dry bramble]

did they change it in the 1.1 patch or before?

[harsh abyss]

Just in 1.1, yeah

[zinc patrol]

your build looks sick. ive been looking for a non-arcane ascendance setup since im getting punished hard with it on these new harbingers, gotta keep moving. figure it's a good time to take a look at 90+

[cerulean plinth]

"chance to ignite on hit" applies to spells too right? or does it have to specify spell

I'm gonna try a full ignite fireball build

[scarlet totem]

love your analysis and descriptions...I am currently developing a mana stack Meteor build but feel it is a bit clunky on large packs/bosses due to the need to use negative mana Focus...would you say that your build is smoother in that regard?

[proven haven]

yea way smoother tbh. I tried to try my setup with negative mana focus and kept getting frustrated. Probably a preference thing but for me it's a naw

[nimble shoal]

Meteor? Very interesting, the mana regen stuff must really be working well lol

[proven haven]

Yea you can see from the gameplay that is more than enough for the normal echo running

If I had 1k mana like my planner I would be getting an extra 20 ish from each meteor too, and an extra 3 or 4 per FC back

Gear has been rough for me this cycle start though as CoF

[nimble shoal]

I'm kinda surprised, I take it meteor is feeling better than VO? Obviously is a bit quicker

[wispy rune]

u can get static orb to auto cast right? how?

[scarlet totem]

Seems like it would be hard to get 1000 mana on your build since you are prioritizing INT on everything, along with the other high priority affixes

[pulsar galleon]

Is snowblind good for glacier sorc?

[harsh abyss]

If you want easy gearing for meteor, start out with a Vilatria build. The rank 4 makes the set super easy to get and it'll be easy slam damage once you equip it and you can chill while you look for more uniques and legendaries

[faint scroll]

Any recommendations on disintegrate fire aura runemaster build?

[proven haven]

meteor just for a mana generator though, I never used it for damage

[nimble shoal]

Ahh okay, that makes sense. I wasn't paying attention to the teleport tree lol

[dark jay]

meteor is so fun but i cant see anything against harbingers

[vale tartan]

Besides Volcanic Orb , Dark Hole and Frostclaw , what would be other fast ways to apply Ignite stacks ?

[harsh abyss]

Fireball is a great way

[still matrix]

So found a harbinger of stars early and have been fire spec'd anyway. Is there a passive somewhere that gives heaps of base crit chance to get FC crit high?

[solemn mortar]

Tormented warlock or glacier?

[still matrix]

Yea, that one is OP. is there another big buff from a passive somewhere? I can;t find anything else.

[dark jay]

you will run out of mana if you use FC to proc meteor

sorc's calculated destruction gives tons of increased crit chance

[still matrix]

I expect so. I have been playing meteor with mana focus so far and my mana has gotten pretty good. But yea, FC probs makes it harder to sustain. Other option moight be to use 100% crit node for meteors to proc more meteors?

[dark jay]

range mana strike + mana arc + crit nodes let you proc meteor just as much as FC but you gain a bit of mana back
glacier for clearing is even better

for bossing, i just self cast meteor and dump all my 1.6k mana in one go

the 400 mana auto crit node for meteor is bait, eventually you will want to spec out of it

[still matrix]

Good to know. I'm only lvl 60 so i'm under 400 mana anyway. So you reckon ranged mana strike with the arc to make it hit more crits as much as FC?

I'm cof but ive been super lucky with fire gear.

[dark jay]

yes you proc way too many meteor to sustain with mana strike so your mana will go oom too

[still matrix]

Yea ok.

[dark jay]

for clearing maps, getting 900-1k mana + glacier's 1% mana on crit helps a lot with sustaining compared to using mana strike

[still matrix]

Can glaciar be turned into fire? Or is it just to proc metoer?

[dark jay]

nope

[still matrix]

Ty for info mate. Ill try glacier first. The mama cost reduction node is within range early with the mana repl nodes too.

[bright spoke]

Does anyone else feel like the Mana Bulwark passive on Sorcerer doesn't work? I understand I need to take health damage (vs ward) for the effect to kick in, but even if I just sit and take hundreds of damage of hits to my health, my mana doesn't even move -- and my mana regen is only 18/sec.

Sure doesn't feel like 20% of dmg taken is going to mana before health 😿

[harsh abyss]

I'd be willing to bet it uses the same conversion that Flame Ward does, where each mana absorbs 5 points of damage. So if you take 100 damage and have 20% absorbed, it'll only do 4 mana damage. But IDK

[wispy rune]

should prob aim to stack more dmg to mana first, like idols or the unique helm

[barren belfry]

anyone played frost claw build (with spark charges) and can explain where single target damage comes from?
because right now I shred in aoe but bosses take forever 🤔

[dark jay]

does mana bulwark work when health is covered by ward?

[foggy bolt]

No in order for that to work you need to take DMG to hp

[dark jay]

they use fragment of enigma to scale spark charges

[hallow sequoia]

Battlemage endeavor can proc overcharged light blast or nah ?

[barren belfry]

and how does that do much single target? 🤔 I've got the item but bosses still take ages

[neon lynx]

Need better gear. Enigma requires tons of int before it does good damage

[cerulean plinth]

god tier crafting luck holy. added 20k damage to my fireball lol

[rancid mauve]

holy... gratz~ that tier 7.. woohoo!

[cerulean plinth]

yeah actually cracked lol

my fireball goes up to 180k with all my buffs active now. 75k unbuffed

[zinc patrol]

on your current frost claw build, are we basically out of options to add mana to frost claw (with ladle)? I saw that a 6% frost claw efficiency idol, the lowest you can get, brings you down to 39.43

[cerulean plinth]

monka I went from 30 to 83 today....I'm not addicted I swear

[frosty token]

anyone playing glacier sorc? is it good?

[wispy rune]

its top tier for sorc atm and high tier in general

can u auto-cast static orb any way?

[cerulean plinth]

holy. random calamity that ive been looking for from a random harbinger. up to 105k unbuffed fireball. feelsgood

[wispy rune]

im just sittin here with 30k 🥲

[cerulean plinth]

i went from like 30k to 105k the past hour. insanely lucky on crafts and a few drops lol. also re-did my passives

definitely worth staying up past my bedtime

[carmine hazel]

i suggest investing in some good def, 40 k on firebal atm 200 coruption, dmg is not a problem

[cerulean plinth]

yeeeeah. I'm already feeling that. I started empowered monos tonight

[cerulean plinth]

are you also using enchant weapon for ignite pops?

[wispy rune]

is static orb damage even useful? i using it jut for lightning aegis

[carmine hazel]

manastacking meteor sorc

[cerulean plinth]

bro why is the 5th orb always the one I need when I'm sub 200 cor :((

[wispy rune]

mana meteor sorc is the way 🙏

[edgy sage]

Did they get rid of gamblers fallacy? Im trying to gear up for a disintegrate build and im seeing conflicting information.

[cerulean plinth]

ignite fireball go brr

[carmine hazel]

yes they did

[edgy sage]

Is it still obtainable in the soulfire dungeon?

[carmine hazel]

man patchnotes you dont need old stuff anymore

and Hyperfocal actually does Not work

[cerulean plinth]

this ring kinda goes hard for fireball ignite. been using it forever now

[edgy sage]

damn, thats a huge bummer

[carmine hazel]

yeah, but they said its on the menu

[dark jay]

i spec'd out of static orb, just stacking aoe to overlap meteor now. Honestly i dont really feel the static orb meme when meteor deals like 20k x 6 hits per cast

[wispy rune]

im using ti for DR, grabbed thw wand that casts static on dash

[cerulean plinth]

I wonder how long it would take me to get a 3 lp cinder song. Pain

[neon lynx]

Static orb insta gibs everything. It’s by far the highest single target skill we got rn

[stable terrace]

finally lvl 100 woo lets gooooo

top 10 mage niiice. spark charges is broken you guys

[carmine hazel]

can i look at you toon?

[stable terrace]

err how do i link? i'm argospark ign

wait figured it out https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B4PNedlB

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1b

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (64) / Spellblade (5) / Runemaster (23)

General:

▸ Health: 1,452, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 1,003, Regen: 15/s
▸ Ward Retention: 534%, Regen: 212/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 15 Dex / 128 Int / 9 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 82% / 40% / 64% / 82% / 93% / 174% / 61%
▸ EHP: 2,042 / 1,512 / 1,839 / 2,355 / 2,042 / 2,042 / 1,785

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 290
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (60)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 34% (1,748)

Damage Types:

▸ Lightning, Fire / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Frost Claw (22)
• Teleport (20)
• Flame Ward (21)
• Lightning Blast (22)
• Focus (20)

Used unique items:

• Boneclamor Barbute
• Dragorath's Claw
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Strands of Souls
• Phantom Grip
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros

[stable terrace]

lots of gears to upgrade, can finally stop the gfind to upgrade

[carmine hazel]

double proc I see, nice

[stable terrace]

yeah, tons of spark charge hits and tons of ward from hit/cast

[hallow sequoia]

Anyone know if LB cast from it benefit from overcharge and can multicast ? since it's not really procced by another skill but by the sword itself, google doesn't answer anything valuable 😦

[weary hamlet]

it's on par with the fire version, both are kinda sh it

[weary hamlet]

unfortunately you really want to be using a staff for flame reave for that massive flat melee bonus

[weary hamlet]

they aren't rare, they have a spawn rate in range of maybe 25-50%, but it's not worth the time looking for them on larger maps where they can spawn in the remotest corner, or not at all. Many smaller or more corridor type maps are trivial to check for nemesis

[weary hamlet]

tooltip dps is wrong and unreliable and tooltip dps for disintegrate is hilariously off, never trust it

[slim furnace]

is there a reason that mana strike doesnt give u mana back instantly?

[carmine hazel]

w

[slim furnace]

like you smack something and then it takes like a whole second or something like that to give mana

[harsh thistle]

Hey guys, is tome of elements used for anything? Just got a 3LP one, wondering if it’s good

[wispy rune]

just did my first lego smash. 3 of the stats were acceptable and i rolled the wrong one 🤦‍♀️

[stable terrace]

not that good at a base, but if its 3 Lp you essentially can craft another relic onto it and get the damage leech and ailment instead of 4th affix

[weary hamlet]

mana strike is three Rip Bloods in a trenchcoat and when you hit there is an invisible mana orb that travels from mobs to your character

[stable terrace]

could be acceptable with like a frostbite or ignite build

[slim furnace]

thats cringe lol 2 slow

[harsh thistle]

Cool thanks

[slim furnace]

bro is there any way i can stop mana strike for being so dumb, im clicking the boss in lightless arbor and the skill just makes me try to walk and path towards it instead of attacking even tho im in melee range

[wispy rune]

settig in gameplay. untick the first boss

[slim furnace]

ahhhhhhh big ty

i forgot u need to get close to the waypoint to unlock it and now i cant go back to corrupted lake for paqssive 😦

[sage creek]

how is dragorath claw boosting shatter strike damage? guide is not using frost claw in the build, just shatter strike

[karmic vapor]

Is there any reason I cannot see the spark charge stack number on the training dummy?

[weary hamlet]

it doesn't boost the SS damage significantly, you are probably looking at a static charge build that uses ss to apply

[dusky pelican]

Damage wise, the fire version is ok to me!
Have no issues with exileds, nemesis, bosses up until 90 monos... And in empowered...
However the survivability is lacking in empowered, big time at the moment.
Did you even try the fire version properly?

[sage creek]

im looking at the maxroll build. do you have any other wep alternatives? the current guide makes no sense recommending that dagger.

[hallow sequoia]

tree + claw gives you 50% chance to cast claw on melee hit

[sage creek]

tree?

[weary hamlet]

I've been running the fire version "properly" since 1.1 start (although some of my gear is still bad, need a +4-+5 relic and a better weapon) and the damage is much worse than it was before the fallacy build nerf, and even back then it was meh at best. Any build can do campaign and leveling monos just fine, the problem is that I'm already lacking single target damage in empowered monos around 150 corr. The survivability is less of an issue.

Also the changes to mana cost on channeling skills were a major setback for disintegrate with the more mana cost from higher tier channeling nodes, you are looking at about what, 65 per second unmitigated by efficiency, boots, cost reduction etc?

[wispy rune]

my ST is also rough af. tho i am using meteors.

[dusky pelican]

Uh ok, i must say that when running around with 100% crit chance due to shrine buff, tooltip dos goes to 2.5 mil, while normally sitting at 550k...
But this tooltip dps is calculated without any reductions of enemies indeed. But surely does feel ok.
Mana wise, I only took Lucomancer stuff (so no proccing, no twin beaming) and i even still generate mana while channeling.
Twin beams would def change that.

[wispy rune]

Got some really good upfront burst in my first 2 rotations then im kind of just standing there for a second or two. But rough

[shell fern]

reasoning in the maxroll build for that dagger is that it is rune dagger base which is great for spark charge and it has spell crit+all resistances and easy to get with 2-3lp

those frostclaw lines you just ignore, it is used for its stats otherwise

[sage creek]

so tis not meant to benefit off the frost claw idea?

[shell fern]

yea, only meant to boost spark charge

[sage creek]

what part of stats is boosting spark charge?

[weary hamlet]

my tooltip is usually around 2,7 mil but that doesn't mean sh it when I'm actually hitting mobs for 18-20k ticks at tier 3, and that's likely also factoring in the damage of fire aura cause I do less to remote mobs. Meanwhile when I played it in 0.9 I had 80k ticks in more or less sh itty gear. They did some good QOL improvements but the damage simply isn't there. Without twin beams the damage is exceptionally pathetic so not running it simply isn't an option, it's an extra 40% more damage multiplier.

[shell fern]

read the item.

[hearty hearth]

is it worth using the exalted one even if i lose mana ? playing meteor

[wispy rune]

just forge the exalted

increase the flat mana, try to seal the mana + arcane ascendance, then add on mana spent gained as ward, or +meteor if needed

oh i just saw the exalted has ligtning res sealed. still just forge more mana on it

[hearty hearth]

wont let me forge i think im low level

[wispy rune]

aslong as that 50 mana diff doesnt put you below 300 or 1k total, its fine

[hearty hearth]

yeah, i assumed t6 and t7 defensive affixes might be worth more because i sometimes get one shot

[wispy rune]

the exalted there is a lot lot better. forge that mana to t5 and just for the other mana after.

[hearty hearth]

kk thx

[kind fox]

lightning meteor is awsome 👍

[finite cobalt]

what's that ?

[kind fox]

Vilatrias staff makes meteor do lightning damage

[lapis sapphire]

Anyone know if the nodes "Exothermic" and "incineration" works together in the Firebrand tree? Both consumes stacks but its hard to tell

[weary hamlet]

they should but I doubt that anybody here had actually tested it in practice, with flame reave being, well, flame reave

[fiery gyro]

how do i proc Elemental Nova with FC?

[lapis sapphire]

@weary hamlet Yeah its not unreasonable that they should but its very tricky to actually find out, thansk for the input though

[shell fern]

well considering the wording that incineration works on any other melee attack and exothermic only with flame reave they should work together

[split nacelle]

Probably there is someone smarter then me ...

Why does https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BEMxdOeB play Grimoire ? Wouldnt Knowledge of an Erased Mage or Stormcarved Testament be way better ?

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (64) / Runemaster (29)

General:

▸ Health: 975, Regen: 19/s
▸ Mana: 1,883, Regen: 21/s
▸ Ward Retention: 407%, Regen: 204/s
▸ Attributes: 5 Str / 5 Dex / 98 Int / 5 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 88% / 66% / 96% / 101% / 73% / 75% / 99%
▸ EHP: 1,441 / 1,316 / 1,441 / 1,737 / 1,413 / 1,441 / 1,441

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 195
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (20)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 41% (2,295)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Cold, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Teleport (20)
• Meteor (22)
• Static Orb (23)
• Flame Ward (21)
• Glacier (21)

Used unique items:

• Peak of the Mountain
• Unstable Core
• Marina's Lost Soul
• Harbinger of Stars
• Transient Rest
• Julra's Stardial
• Julra's Stardial
• Strong Mind
• Grimoire of Necrotic Elixirs

This build has a guide:

One Of The Best Builds In 1.1 - Mana Stacking Sorc by Fubgun

[scenic sail]

I think it's the potion use and increased necrotic damage, those are both very powerful

[naive hazel]

Does Ignite only scale by the affixes mentioned on LETools under "Ailment Sources" or via Fire Damage and Damage over Time aswell?

[weary hamlet]

no idea what's listed on le tools but it is damage over time and it does fire damage so it scales with both of those

[naive hazel]

Thx

[split nacelle]

but how does necrotic damage give anything to lightning/fire sorc ?

[scenic sail]

It's where most of the damage actually comes from for static orb, it's attached to all spell hits, there's a youtuber snap who has a recent video on this exact build, I'm not sure where this one came from but you should check it out. It's not instructional really, but he mentions this

[weary hamlet]

it won't get benefit from ele damage but it still adds as flat to your spells, where it can also scale with things like crit, crit multi, spell damage, more modifiers etc

I guess the best application of this unique would be in proc builds that spam a million hits per second. But the less damage taken is also a side benefit

[wispy rune]

if meteor converted to lightning, does craterborn still d stuff? asin help the meteors

[weary hamlet]

it doesnt convert

[wispy rune]

yea seemed like it. sadge

[rancid mauve]

i'm too glass cannon.. -_- i can't survive anything now..

either i kill them fast enough or i die. lol.. any tips?

[weary hamlet]

depends on build, but basically stack ward and/or mana shielding

[wispy rune]

i cant figure outwhats my last ability to spec 😂

[full bluff]

Everyone will be pro at Lagon after farming a perfect mana blessing 🙂

[scenic sail]

Quovss if you have lots mana (for meteor) then you want Glacier and the two 1% max mana gained nodes, it's ridiculous, Glacier is way too powerful

[wispy rune]

nah meteor is too fun. 😂 i specd arcane ascendance as my last

[scenic sail]

That's fine, I used that for at least a month, but Glacier is really powerful, you should give it a try if you have 900 mana

[wispy rune]

nah i used it 0.9, dont rly wanna repeat it

not a bad build but meteor is being more un

[ivory geode]

I am lvling as glacier

[scenic sail]

I'm using meteor + fireball + glacier, that's what I mean, glacier is like middle way between meteor and fireball, great for AOE but it also regens your mana, like fireball

[wispy rune]

i triedputting fireball on to help my ST, but i have on cast speed so it felt rough

[spice gull]

So flame reave doesn't give dormant stacks for Surge

[exotic willow]

How much mana can recover glacier spec this way? Im using focus to regain mana and it's quite effective but if I use it while on positive mana it barely recovers anything

[dark jay]

it starts to feel good from 900 mana, and sustainable at 1500 mana, then the more you stack the better

[wispy rune]

Is unstable core an rng drop? havetn seen one and just making sure

[weary hamlet]

Random Drop (Rare)

[clear mica]

Anyone has a build for 1k-1.5k mana range build for sorc ?

[worn shell]

for which skill?

[sharp patrol]

Meteor vs spark charge sorc as a beginner with controller? I heard meteor is less gear dependent?

[wispy rune]

i have @clear mica

either are fine rhux, meteor is easy to gear early as u purely stack mana + defensives

[clear mica]

Can you send me a planner link pls

[wispy rune]

mine is so far outdated its crazy. but ik maxroll has some for glacier if u want tha

[sharp patrol]

I follow allies meteor sorc on lastepochtools if that’s interesting for you

[sharp patrol]

Thx! Will stick to it then 🙂

[worn shell]

I mean the build is pretty straightforward for a generalist mana stacker

just take your +Mana nodes until you decide what skill you want to commit to

[wispy rune]

yea jst take nearly all the mana nodes in the tree u need, grab mana in blessings and then fill with gear/idols

also dont waste too many stats on mana if u dont have a reason. 1k+ is needed for stats. but you wont need 3k+ for example.

[wheat marten]

is there a better mana stacker than meteor?

[worn shell]

technically no (because auto-crit), but static orb is probably better when proper support

[wheat marten]

im working on empowered monoliths now and currently lvl 86. got 1.2k mana so far (gear is still far from great)