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Yeh it will do the job nicely
does this count towards channeled skills so that you endlessly channel a crit
Trinity of Flames
No, things like that only affect the first hit.
So every 3rd time you start channeling, the first hit will auto-crit
Let's hope spellblade will have non shatter strikes builds that SLAPS
I'm betting there's a cold mana strike frostbite build in there somewhere that is pretty great
It will work but SS is straight up better as a main skill with Mana Strike as a filler
mana strike can sustain the mana for full volley + all extra casts of frost claw
I just looked it up on maxroll, looks insane
I think i'll play that since disintegrate is apparently a coinflip
also mana strike has range
Yeah, this is the way. Mana strike itself is worse than SS, but it can enable a lot of stuff because it's constantly regening your mana.
dragorath's as well. you get enough mana to sustain constant full frost claw and chaining lightning blast procs no matter how fast your attack speed is
Yeah. Overloaded mana strike triggering FC and LB was nutty last cycle. With the new node that adds flat crit chance, that'll be nutty.
Also, you could do it with Focal Blast, which would be kinda cool
i got 100% spell crit with no crit anywhere but int
pretty good for the ward gen too
Yeah, I saw a distintegrate spellblade build that was still using Ignivar's Head for a massive more multi because of that.
oh and since you are going through so much mana, mana spent gained as ward also becomes a good amount of sustain
Well, sounds like Mana Spent Gained as Ward only works with direct casts
ah right
But also, Prodigy gives you a crapton of ward/sec, so that's good as well
If you're getting up to 150+ Int, that build is gonna feel real good for anything you do
I'm planning to go a bit of a different way, doing mana stacking mana strike. At 1000 mana, you're adding 150 flat melee damage and 100% base crit chance
Hey guys!
I played a Void thingy at launch, I'm thinking about going glacier sorcerer, looks like it will be very nice after the buffs
Yeah, all estimations are that it's gonna be very good
SLAPS? Probably not, but surge is still going to be decent
can u start as Frostbite Claw Sorc? or does it have to be glacier as lvlin build+
Is there a Chain lightning build ?
any good frostclaw big aoe builds ?
Both of those exist, you'll want to look on lastepochtools or maxroll for the specifics
yeah but can frostclaw be played as lvling build? seems like glacier is so much better?
Yeah, you can definitely level with it
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The non-relevant old skills didn't change enough to create a new spellblade meta ?
Spellblade didn't see many significant overhauls, but they did get a lot more flat crit chance on their passive tree, which should make some builds feel quite a bit better.
frostbite frostclaw was hardnerfed?
freeze and frostbite yes, frostclaw got kinda buffed but with everything going on I'd play with it first :D
Yes, but like... down to reasonable levels probably. It was pretty massively OP last cycle
i never used snowdrift on my frostbite builds and damage was still nuts, so big buff to me :^)
Ok so it sounds like it works better if youβre going the crit route, with LB converted to cold.
For frostbite stacking, SS will still be better due to all the hits through all the projectiles that can be specced into
So spark charge on sorc the thing now? 100% damage taken as mana super tank?
Freeze was nerfed but frostbite was buffed
Shatterstrike ll work on 500 corrup ?
largely not, they updated a few of the worst passives in the tree and made some minor tweaks to SS, but for instance Flame Reave still got nothing going for it.
sure, I guess you could pull it up to 1k with optimal gear
Basically spellblade is kinda same F tier but better ?
Not terrible but not close to be as good as the best classes ?
i dunno runemaster kinda swapped with spellblade imo
The blind changes are a buff to everyone
snowdrift = frostbite pen boots
Never played the mage class only falconeer how's the blade version of the class kinda looks sick
It's possible to get up to like... 107% damage taken as mana before life, so I'm sure someone is going to try it and see how horrible it is.
lol not even close, sb still has abysmal build diversity
sb has like one good build and let's be generous and say that two other decent builds, rm has like 30 good builds and god only knows how many "decent"
idc about build diversity i care about having a good build that doesnt fall over on empowered
Has anyone mathed out glacier damage passives on Cold Snap(Middle explosion damage scaling) vs keeping all 3?
without frostguard runemaster gonna be deadge
how does this work with channeling abilitys ?
slightly better, 2 hit glacier and normal glacier is exactly same added damage effectiveness but the 2nd explosion has slightly more more damage
then how is this relevant to ranking classes? If you only care about one build, rank builds. SS crit is at least A tier by tier list logic
Each "Cast" of a channeling ability only counts the first tick/hit of damage. You have to restart the channel for it to count as another "spell"
thats nice thx
what u think about spellblade?
Is Spellblade levelling likely to be any less suffering?
is spellblade leveling paticularly bad? Never noticed that
I mean if you can get enough dmg it obviously = immortality with endurance on mana
How is everyone leveling for Sorc?
never used meteors myself, I remember I went full fireball
What build would yall recommend for starting this cycle?
idk if i want to play spark charge sorc or static orb coc meteor
is the general consensus that frost claw runemaster is still viable/strong?
Even just after unlocking sorc, if you wait a while to get Twin Meteors you can cast plenty of meteors before running oom
I have no idea what to start with as well π
sorc may be better
got a link to the build? ah nvm got it
I prefer this build for solo player like me
yeah I'll run that! thx
same, lmao, looks insane
prob has paper defense but really if ur only pushing 1k corruption max it doesnt truly matter tbh
With the xp/favor changes
idk if it's even worth pushing past 1k
it isnt, thats my point
I'm gonna play something very similar but with Ice Barrage was talking to FrozenSentinel about it
IB adds like 15 spark charges per second
Think I'm doing glacier / meteor 
Same. First time but it looks pretty cool
what are the best fire builds though? I played a half self-made runemaster with the hydrahedrons, and felt that it was fun but extremely squichy (i'm sure my gear was not optimal either)
Looks perfect for farming. 
meteor spam is pretty fun and fire and gives craterborn if you end up just wanting to use it for other things
I wonder if you could do a similar build but with using frostclaw as the catalyst for the crit
dreads ignite volcanic orb seems decent as a cycle starter
I heard if you play glacier sorc in 1.1 youre cheating
Glacier has always been strong, so with general sorc buffs it should be very good, heh
do you want to check my napkin math on middle vs large build? Since both are the same mana cost... I think large hit is ahead? (but QOL might be better with Middle build since the explosion comes faster?) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ar4s8KUUNYCP7yiro1GN_7dYBbiTYjA2caQzQ8qm0MI/edit?usp=sharing
Good.
you can just reverse order to get large hit immediately tbf
My math might be completely wrong too lol
haha, I much prefer fire myself if possible (purely due to asthetics), but might check out the frost build too indeed
Go fire and youre good. Thank you for not cheating.
How is glacier cheating? 
checked the gameplay for the build, and that looked mighty boring to me tbh. Super powerful yes, but also just boring
Will I have fun as a fireball sorc in last epoch for the new season?
That's why I can't play Warpath builds
Mana sorcerer looks so much fun
glacier harbinger static orb feels like will be fun
only you can answer that lol
Fireball Sorc should be plenty powerful though
haha im new to last epoch trying to find a build thats similar to the style of sorc from d2
idk ive never been able to make a harbinger build work and now is the time it feels
I think the problem is you added all the more damage multiplier to one big multiplier? Like 200% more 140% more and 50% more is not 390% but multiplying with each other so 10.8/1080%
Yeah, remember that all sources of Increased stack additively, all sources of More stack multiplicatively
makes sense, thanks
Fun and push are different.. fun, Yes!
Frostbite Frostclaw Sorc or Torment Warlock .... help me π
both
fair π
Just do whichever you feel with farm the best first, then you can grind for alts easier. If you plan on playing alts that is 
why does my client say 1.0.8.5 when I have updated to 1.1?
still cant decide between sorc, falconer, lich, lock >_<
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ohh oki thanks for letting me know
I never played spark charge last patch, did sorc get buffed enough to compare to runemaster this cycle?
hopefully so i can save my wrists XD
yes
I have the exact same question
let try sorc π
ive never rolled a mage so i dont know how to interpret the patch notes myself
better version with alhemist ladle or dragorath claw?
it's more that rm was nerfed down to more reasonable levels
also spark charge sorc passive potentially busted if works
played sorc in 1.0 but quit quickly due to lack of content and I'd like to do sorc again, don't like the runemaster concept
ladle prob imo
do all sorcs basically need to stack mana
runemaster doesn't really have a "concept", back before this patch (that gave sorc a bit of a unique identity) rm was just a strictly better sorc
probably not when people get to play with the changes a bit, but it'll be what most people are doing
no but you are heavily incentivized to do so now
I'm so happy glacier is so strong now, I loved leveling up with it when runemaster was op last season, and now that it is its own build- gonna be fun
whats the goto leveling for sorc?
glacier. its okay, no idea why anyone would want to play glacier end game though its so slow
volcanic orb or glacier
any dps skill works fine for leveling and early monos, really
and i assume the ward nerfs will hit the pure ward versions from last patch pretty hard
Yeah, there won't be 'infinite' ward builds any more.
FC builds will likely still hit ward cap fairly easily, idk
WTB ice barrage end game smashin
you mean the 4k soft "cap"?
they'll be able to hit the 4k giga easily yes, should be able to sit higher though w int investment
The patch is available, please restart your steam if you do not see it available for download π
Work meetings? What are those. <cough cough> Sorry I'm sick today
is spellblade fun/strong ?
has anything changed with CoF and MG that puts one before the other, as a mage? I did CoF in 1.0
some cof buffs for boss drops and experimentals + level thresh pusharounds
buffs to farming stuff like twisted heart? that item was a pain in the ass
Yeah, 150% increased boss drops from one of the higher tiers
yes but twisted heart ward gen won't be as busted as before, though still tons of value with the other stats
mg had and will always be better, it's real ezmode. But COF was improved a little for farming boss drops.
Servers are still down?
took me 135h to get sick and tired of 1.0 and that was with COF, worried 1.1 wont even last that long if I go MG
The team are aware of the 'Online Play Unavailable' issue some players are having - and are currently investigating!
Probably just overloaded with people trying to log in
honestly more to do with no good endgame content than anything
cool
MG makes you bored after 1 hour
I just don't like to worry about the value of items I find for trading
thanks, I got it to 1095 middle total vs 668 all 3 total now
xd
heyo, am new to mage and saw a build for spark charge Spellblade with the item "Fragment of the enigma" anyone know if its a trap build or can i get to like lvl 90 and do mono's comfy
wait is it only for some players or all players?
got the name Static, but can't play, rofl
enigma is defienitely not a trap build
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no, nobody is an enjoyer right now
I just tested the spark mage passive on offline, it definietly applies to all ice barrage hits
How do they mess this up again is beyond me
thx will try it out ^^
whats your preferences? Runemaster Sorcerer Spellblade?
character names aren't exclusive, sorry to disappoint. I can just be bob every time if I want
it's all the fault of sentinels
me, me but no clue what to do this season
spark charge sorc does look fun, not sure how good itll be compared to torment lock though
Probably only US beeing able to play online as always
no, US here, we can't play either :/
didn't torment get a bunch of nerfs? survivability for high corruptioon will be an issue
what should i go for this cycle havent got thea patch yet on steam
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what am i reading servers down ?
servers yeah are down
BARF
oh i guess cant share a name w your legacy characters then, cuz it was saying taken lol
maybe I'm wrong? if I am then I have bob I guess lmfao
man, this channel is so relaxing compared to the chaos in main
cuz mages r chill homies
All we want to do is ponder our orbs π€·ββοΈ
so, does anyone else find the mage's appearance suspiciously similar to count dooku?
Not all players are experiencing this, unfortunately some players are having online issues that we are looking into.
"some players" is the corporate speak for "all players"
"Some" lol #π¬βgeneral is burning it's thousands
i did see a few people in general claiming to be in, but yeah, could very well just be trolling
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I mean... when there are probably tens of thousands of people trying to play, even thousands are a drop in the bucket π€·ββοΈ
as in offline players are fine
It's all players, except streamers probably
I'm in wow
okay im actually in
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neil is confirmed streamer btw guys π also no chill ever, chill is hte enemy, I shock and charge and occasionally burn, but never chill
do i have 100% uptime if i use aa channeling skill?
Log in dude! Spell blade here we go 
nah dude, them 30 minutes were the most important of my life. world ending rn
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between the hot pockets and mountain dew, of course
How good is mana regen for Sorc now
Really good, needed even
Is glacier sorcerer decent?
I was looking at that or frostclaw
Looks like it yeah
most sorc builds will be decent
I Will go meteor or glacier i think, but beware if ur playing MG, sorc items will be pricy af
Why? Is everyone playing sorc this cycle?
cause it got a massive ward and mana regen buff, it always had awesome dps but its ward and mana regen were ass
couple that with Runic invo basically being a dead skill, sorc will likely pull ahead.
Edit: Slowmode. time to head outta the discord for a bit. GL gamers.
well runic needed to be nerfed bad not as bad as it was but it needed a nerf
unfortunately, it wasj ust one invo that was nerfed but the whole skill is really dead outside of that
Spark charge is getting a bit out of control now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoz6fz3t28c
lmao, my eyes.
Ice barrage wipes everything off screen, spamming spark charges, this is just silly
wait what's going on
the crits spawn meteors which spawn spark charges which spawn meteors etc?
- arcane currents
Uh oh, Sanctum gonna cook
wait nvm he was just manually casting meteor for mana
yeah that just looks like the build I'm gonna play FC + IB + meteor with teleport to get back 150ish mana
yes just using meteor for mana there, but not sustaining the spam that way. This was a test of spark charge triggering
yeah FC + IB should be like what 40-60 procs per second?
Everye FC hit triggers spark charge + each ice spike, so it gets pretty insane in maps
can not directly casted skills proc arcane current?
got my first unique with lp π€ is this a scripted drop?
So with the patch notes what good builds have people figured out?
what best build mage ice ?
oh yeah, disintegrate is there. oh yeah....
they really changed up disintegrate so prolly gonna see a few builds of that for sure
we thinking that spark charges get a hotfix or is cycle of the spark charge back in business?
is runemaster giga nerfed or?
melee spark charge or just frost claw casts better?
40 point sorc passive with 40 mana cost spells + enigma offhand
I suspect mid cycle nerf π
Unless it's a bug, they normally do not do that.
like 500 flat dmg or 300,000k x 100 dps from just spark charges
Might try same runemaster setup
Now we just need to perma freeze the bosses and we are back in cycle 1 π
ya'll running glacier for leveling or anyone doing something actually fun?
is sorc on par with runemaster now or still a wide gap in performance?
did EHG fix 'Power Word: Hail' ignoring the Ice Barrage cooldown
Should be much closer now, with all the buffs
level how you want to level. I usually go the route of whatever is the quickest to get me to end game 
with the frostguards nerf and new sorc tree i think sorc is way ahead now
i dont like runic invocations, feels clunky
I love em tbh, but it really depends on the build. once everything clicked, Hydrahedron was actually tons of fun
You can also limit the complexity and possible combos to guarantee specific Runic procs
still stuck in loading hell, do hope itll be okay soon
is there a new disintegrate build when it got buffed
I think sorc 40 mana frost claw is going to need mana regen over cast speed
Im still on the fence btw. well, im literally on the fence, i have to choose now
why now?
Well, i can delay the mastery selection, but i really shouldnt be
forgot how quickly mastery selection comes
Its going to have to be RM, im afraid. Simply a better kit, even if heavy hitters dont gain the passive
Sorc will probably get mid cycle nerf, you heard it here first. Iβm avoiding spark charge stuff
its a long season, make one of each
There are no mid cycle nerfs. Only bug fixes
Just wait until static orb sorcs kill the final boss in 2sec π. Everyone will forget about spark charges then
They can just say the spark charge interaction is a bug π€ͺ
If it works as described, its not. The terminology is very simple
spark charges from static orb will kill the boss in 2 secs tho
But does it work as intended. Did they intend to make an interaction that will no doubt hit the heights of corruption they said they donβt want us to be getting to?
I mean it does work as intended
every hit on a 40 mana cost skill spawns one
25-30 hits per cast on FC
10-15 per second on IB
it's just how it works lol
true but 30m dps probably isnt intended
If they intended to make such an overpowered build then they are going fully against what they said about us hitting insane corruption levels
just a little programming oopsie of not capping something
A.k.a not intended
could be a cycle 3 change tho, either way the devs are clear with what they want
prob needs an internal cooldown of like 100ms or something
not intended is very different from they didn't anticipate the rammifications of the change
enigma scaling less helps a lot, 2 flat per 1 int is cray
Was the Kindling Blade skill passive for Enchant Weapon ever fixed? I remember it was broken for a very, very long time.
What happened to RM that my frostclaw build is no longer able to sustain mana?!
π
Does flame vent not work with ember/dancing fire? With fire spray its doing the 3 but not doing multiple with the other two nodes.
Updated my old frost claw spark charge sorcerer to 1.1, if anyone need inspiration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EZjrt9y5DM The build is way better than before π
doing campaign all over feels pretty silly
is teleport bugged?? im not getting haste
what corruption is that red
yeah wish there as a way to skip it like d4
800, the harbinger 1 shot me after abo boss :P. Not used to being squishy
is there even a reason to play season over eternal?
cool kids play season only
start fresh, new economy.
dont think im going MG anyway
Look for -4 mana cost wrong warps, -5 is too much, -3 too little π
sorc mastery bugged? doesnt seem to increase dmg based on mana at all?
Guess its preference then. I don't like the idea of picking up an old char again, but if you don't want to grind through the campaign and don't mind playing the same class go for it. I haven't played in a few months so its fun to start fresh.
With that being said there are videos on how to breeze through the campaign fairly quickly.
Why would you ever NOT play a new economy, new characters, new rush to get powerful again?
because COF doesnt care about the economy?
Well, I always play COF HC... Even on a personal level, I don't see the point of keeping playing a char that is already powerful and can push corruption, specially when the game didn't really have any end-game besides higher number on C
Starting fresh feels a lot more interesting, to me... Also, isnt the pinnacle bosses only available on Cycle, til they're killed?
didn't mean playing the same character, but it is easier skipping campaign on an alt no? with keys or whatever they're called
Every cycle itβs like a brand new game to me
Sure, alts can skip campaign... But starting totally fresh and see how much better and faster I can go is part of my fun (and it's fine if it's not for you, just stating where I come from)
Also, you can go up to Haeborean or whatever Era, up to the tree guy mini boss and from there jump to Monoliths, that should be a 3:30h run or so... Even being slow
I play 1 new char each cycle, and experiment with builds and stuff on my old ones.
you guys leveling meteor or glacier
GLACIER
what is a decent mage build now
Mana stacking Sorcerer gonna be pretty hot this league, lots of flavors of that floating around
for leveling? glacier.
For endgame? probably some static surge shenanigans
someone please remind me, what are these pale yellow items? not the regular rare items, these have a lighter yellow color
pale yellow usually has a special affix marked in yellow on it. those items are uncraftable (no forge potential) but can be decent as leveling items because of the special affix on it.
Anyone know why I have both disintegrate + volcanic orb proc and its not casting on proc?
alright, thanks
Proc on hit?
Is there a list of Disintegrate scales with? My tooltip doesnt change when I add cast speed (?)
have to channel the 3 seconds
anyone knows how often nemesis mobs spawn? been like 10 zones without seeing one
im at the end of time i picked my special class..
Is there a cap on the amount of Spreading Flame stacks, asking for this
1
where do you level once you have got to the end of time / everything 1 shots me
just dropped this for my shatterblast build
what are u supposed to spam on a spellblade lol
Flamebrand?
mana strike or shatter strike cuz im tryna build it full electricity damage
make a static charge build
anyone else noticing mana regening in chunks instaed of smoothly? feels like vanilla wow
its a great spellblade full eletric.
im using static charge and mana charge but what other 2 abilities should i use cuz i use electric ward and tp now
For a spellblade, Surge will be good once you unlock it
this is what im using rn
Yeah that seems reasonable
is teleport bugged? its not giving haste NVM IM RESTARTED
l m a o
Do you already have haste while using it? The node refreshes haste duration. It doesnt' grant it if you don't already have it
those feel the best rn
le chad
lvl 23 btw lol funny skill
yeah but its channelled i thoguth of using it but standing in one place
how is disintegrate comparing to glacier?
wot lvl r u
i just hit 25
ffs
why xD
im 21 lmao
im critting 1200 with glacier lvl 21
oh its my 2nd play through and first mage so learning xD
My disintergrate is casting Fireball everytime I stop channeling so I'm just ramping ignite
yeah same i just got to lvl 23 on a paladin and im like right at the same spot as i was with him
forgot that i just unlocked this fella from the twitch thing
lucomancer/resurgence feels inconsistent, feels like the stacks do not refresh properly if i stutterstep
Anyone know if cast time affect Vent stacking time?
the buff indicator for it is also inconsistent, it starts ticking down then just vanishes with half duration remanining
eh not a fan of the cosmetic stuff just give us a transmog, grim dawn had taht
the owl is just something u get from watching twitch though its a thing that is happening today
are u using 2h or 1h
1 hand
Anyone enjoying Meteor Sorc?
cause of this
I'm doing Meteor/Fireball atm, need a bit more of a mana pool before I can convert to full time meteor.
Nice
Going dicentagrate /glacier rn... sorc mastery... mana problems hahaha
If you want the smoothest leveling ever, just go for the fireball nodes that add extra projectiles. When each cast is shooting 4 fireballs and they all apply multiple ignite stacks, bosses just melt.
Then you can have Meteor or Ele Nova to do AOE damage for big groups.
my spam thingy already feks everything up lmao but fair did they also up droprates cuz im getting a shitton of oranges
the mana thing right right
I just saw the frostbite buff. 40% more base damage is unethical
ay fair ey btw does this game have higher difficulties
No more sustainable FC ?
ya, corruption.
oh so no stuff like legendary or heroic diff
You can do your own hard mode:https://www.pcgamesn.com/last-epoch/hard-mode
There's also a masochist mode that's supposed to come out. Not sure if it was ever released or if the boots was it.
is anyone else playing frost claw with 'on through the snow' node?
It seems its casting ahead not behind itself
naw that aint what i meant tho
Starting season with disintegrate. Is fire or lightning more fun?
anyone knows if wrongwarp is still bugged?
it was bugged? lol
it didnt give the cdr to trasplant or teleport
but last time i played was months ago
Man just when I was gonna play primalist they buff sorc π
Here we go again xD
For Runebolt does amplified cascade work with wrecking ball?
how are you guys solving mana while leveling glacier. mana strike/focus both are so slow.
mana strike feels good imo, are you taking the most optimal nodes?
what does ag and be mean in the timelines
+mana so you can toss glacier 4-5 times without running out is an easy fix
how is this dude so fast in this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWS3NlwuSYg
think I will be going fire myself
damn bro range rover just dropped a hard ad lmao
is the fps drops fixed for the game? planning to go frostclaw but i dont want my pc to struggle lol
Frostclaw still working ?
Any other SB builds besides shattering?
Anyone feeling good about these procs on disintegrate? I went full fire but mobs dies in less than 3 seconds anyway so the fireball is kinda silly and the volanic orb is useful only on a few champs/bosses really....not a lot of uptime for them otherwise
Masochist was out in 1.0
First area - hidden passage in bear cave π
Boots for extreme gameplayπ
any good frost claw big aoe builds
My quests dont show on the map whats up with that?
hey guys what build do u think its stronger this patch(1.1)hydra or or plasma orb
got one with elemental nova ?
read the description, you can swap it out.
chat broken?
some of the builds he has in there has elemental nova
dosent tell me step by step like max roll tho lol
Where can i find info for spellblade/ class builds in general? First timer, Thanks in advance.
lastepochtool
ignore ones made by mattjestic gaming and actionrpg, theyre just clickbait builds
Hi please can someone tell me why the frost claw build on maxroll took the sorcerer mastery and not runemaster ? It seems to benefit much more from this ascendancy or am I missing something ? https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/frostbite-frost-claw-sorcerer-guide
because its maxroll?
wut lol. ActionRPG actually theorycrafts. His builds are quite unique from most. I've watched him live a few times. Mattjestic, ya probably... but it seems like he just borrows whatever is meta.
im sure he does... but at the end of the day he just mass creates builds. example is i tried a shatterstrike build that actually did not work as well as it should have because of certain passives not working with the way firebrand was set up
Because it uses ice barrage
and RageGaming
i guess ill just reword it: theres better options out there that do better theorycrafting
Any thoughts on doing a dexterity spellblade build?
Mana stacking Sorc can work with most skills and FC is not exception... You prob can make it work with RM or Sorc
outside of fire aura not scaling the best because it will require spell power
I like Dr3adful personally. Who do you like? Always open for more theorycrafters
Thank for your answer, however the build described doesnβt stack any mana in required gear. I think I should probably look into lastepochtools builds to have more consistent ones
they made arcane ascendance too powerful, to the point it feels like crap not casting inside it and it feels like crap being grounded into a spot too
They're speccing into caster speed, frost pen and alike, from Sorc.
It's a Frostbite based build, from the looks of it.... It's a dif build, but lots of stuff in Sorc for it
FOOLS
I'm trying flame vent with disintegrate and it doesn't feel as good as I thought it would. Plus the fireballs it does shoot out eat your mana a bit. and they also target random objects instead of mobs which is fun...
does this trigger inherit the fireball's tree?
I thought it did when I started but I'm not sure if it actually does
i took these in the FB's tree, but im not seeing it proc in the trigger, still the same number of fireballs
It will, but the number of Fireball is dictated by Flame Vent
i see, so what carries over then? just damage mods and ignite chance etc?
Yup, everything but number of Fireball would be my guess
wad about this
oke tq, will try.
If it doesnt its a bug
I only just got my mastery so I'll stick with it and see how it progresses
Is Surge/static a viable build for spellblade?
Yes
does ground stack on this game
was volka's razor spellblade passive switched from increased elemental damage to more?
someone has gambler fallacy for sell?
what item should i use a rune of ascednance on? im going for frost claw sorc? im level 24 π
Anyone recommend volcanic orb sorc?
anyone make a loot filter yet that covers leveling + all the mana sorc builds?
Imo using teleport + free refund meteor is better than mana strike for lvling glacier
i cry
How goes fireball leveling? Iβve never played before and start after work in about 8 hours. RNG decreed im playing fire sorc. Any leveling tips?
Dread has a volcanic orb build for leveling any mage build, would be good for fire Sorc
I'm doing it right now, I got the new Torch item which is helping out a lot
Iβll be a child of fortune, so no guarantee Iβll have early item access but thatβs ok. I assume fireball is the pump leveling and meteor is only really viable once you have some realistic mana sustain. Iβm just wondering if thereβs anything I can do to optimize early game.
idk im RM
Iβll check dreads page.
Has meteor always been hard to aim?
Well if you're looking for a decent meteor I'm making it work at 25+ allies meteor sorc on last epoch tools
also started meteor - yea, can miss a lot. but dmg seems insane
Is glacial sorcerer viable so far?
its rated as one of the number 1 builds on some tier list sites
So I'm safe and can enjoy the game without worrying or trying too hard?
everything is viable tho just depends how hardcore you are and what your goals are
whats to worry about? why wouldn't you just play the way you want to play?
Last cycle I had lots of issues with internet so I had to solo and it wasn't as fun and got quite boring, I have new internet this cycle so I should actually be able to group up, mostly was concerned about not having fun during the leveling and clearing the campaign but if it's viable and highly rated I don't think I'll have trouble with campaign bosses
Is there any way to reduce the proc time for the Tendrils and Unleashed Power nodes for Disintegrate?
you should play whats fun for you regardless otherwise you will quit the game, this is the golden rule of RPGs, if need be find a different build that you still like.
lmao
Thanks for looking out π
cery cool π
Anyone knows what is the second Sorceress mastery effect on Disintegrate? It's supposed to now give 1% more damage per 2 mana cost, but what mana cost does it use - base (5) or channel per second (18)?
I mean they're trolling but it's good
its fine for the average normie
anybody got barzarr tp?
And is the Sorcerer mastery even working correctly? The tooltip still says what it did before, i.e., "increased"
what do
Where is this dumb bridge
hit the purple thing
The rift takes to to some random place
yes. trust me.
Thank you found it out
is shatterstrike good now?
@proven haven you get around to testing with your frostclaw build?
i'm gonna give it a shot pretty soon either way, just curious if it's been consistent with expectations
Saw someone tested it after patch launched looked just as good as expected haha
But I do think Frozen will end up adding Ice Barrage like we did
i have seen some passives that piqued an interest in ice barrage for me, haven't actually tried that skill at all yet
It's basically 10-15 spark charges per second
i wound up leveling as a volcanic (frozen) orb sorc to relive my d2 days, and it's been pretty fun, but nowhere near as powerful
Fire res shred change is you change Fire aura to cold aura for example??
i think it will still shred fire
i just test, is cold shred 
cool
Yeah, the patch notes mentioned that the shred would convert
so how's spellblade feel now?
lv71 playing shatter strike and 1 shot everything
Just got to End of Time to pick mastery and 2 x Hummingbees have already dropped. Alllllll the attack speed lets goooooo
how is spellblade survivability?
just play one
was thinking about playing glacier. given how unique-heavy it is, will I be punished for going CoF, or will the harbinger stuff make it viable?
new to playing invoker. is spell damage the best stat?
this thing kinda makes my fireball spam go wild
About to fight lagon, feeling pretty good. Just vibing with SS, mana strike, teleport. No crafting, no crazy drops, just killing everything easily and only dying when I can't keep the ward on hit up (rarely)
I'm coming from a bad class (sentinel) to a good class, so maybe this is just what normal mage leveling feels like π but I dig it
thank you! is sentinel considered bad, i decided to start vk but was almost spellblade
anyone confirmed 40 manacost FC work with spark charge passive yet?
No one has published a build for disintegrate yet
Idk if there's a consensus or anything, but my experience has been that there are more problems to solve while playing sentinel than other classes I've tried. Like, for sentinel levelling I get res appropriate for the zone and regularly craft upgraded weapons. This spellblade is just wrecking everything without really thinking about gear
do you guys feel likethe game is actually easier?
seems like i cant die when i giga pull
yes
welp
it is already lagging like crazy with 3 dummies, imagine hitting 10 mobs
anyone asked Mike if this is dev's intention or not yet 
How can I find the damage of Greater Ice Vortex?
not sure if it is in game but letool has it. regular is 40% per second and greater is 100% per second
Oh Thank you. Then I guess just higher damage for ice vortex will lead higher damage of greater, right?
nerf this NOW!!!
anyone else using lightning blast and it starts out as cold damage? no spec in it and it is set to cold. Slightly problematic for RM
can someone explain this part that says " Use Flame Rush to move quickly through the chapters and it automatically uses Static Orb to get the damage reduction from Static Armor." Im confused about how flamerush automatically provs static orb if its not even on my bar.
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/runemaster-leveling-guide#skills-and-passives-header
read flamerush skill tree
Alright folks sorc FC with the 40 mana cost spark charge is bonkers
Ah - thank you, you are a legend
Iirc if you have enough +flat spell damage of a certain type it can convert without a node like that
You have that passive in base mage
This is wrong
Sorry didnβt mean to give bad info, thought I remembered reading that somewhere but shouldβve just not said if I wasnβt sure
Why bonkers? Is it because of how easy it to to scale the mana for it?
is there any way to see if I missed a sidequest? I finished act 7 but I"m missing 1 more idol quest
yes
does anyone have a good lootfilter for Sorcerer?
How do we get FC to proc static orb or meteor? Which tree is it in?
can someone recmmend a busted build?
Anyone else leveling a fire disintegrate build?
i doubled down on Meteor and it's kinda unplayable
so how have ppl handled the ward nerf? my build went from being able to generate +20k ward to only 8k tops
meteor is proc-ed by the unique belt
So, voting for nerfing arcane current soon? 
Im playing it too. kinda squish
Cant believe they actually not tested arcane current. It's like 5 minutes of work
I think with new speed of pushing corruption arcane current will push 5k+ before nerf 
what is broken with it?
This is working
So you can apply hungreds of SCs in seconds. Main nerf of this now is 0 fps 
its kinda sad to see that they dont have a single person to look over the changes. Every single player that saw the 40 mana spark charge thing immediately found the way to break the new season
Do I need to remind that in 1.0 spark charge runemaster was in 3-5k corruption with just only enigma?
how do ppl on ct not complain about/report these?
should have been immediatly obvious that it would be broken if they didn't cap
I have no idea. I understand that they cant find every single overpowered interaction. But this was just "40 mana skills do stuff, which 40 mana skills do we have, oh this will be broken"
they already know spark charge in general is problematic, can't believe they let that one through lol
Vote for nerf to 5-10% chance this week? But it wiil be too late with new corruption system lmao
whats the most meta mage builds atm? saw arcane shenanigans and idk if i want to play build that will be likely hotfixed
And the disintegrate rework made me sad too. Before it had two uses. You could do okayish damage with the 100% crit interaction or you could use it as a mana utility. They killed both and provided no usable alternative
to be fair, even though it looked very broken on the dps dummy, it didn't delete abom at ~800 corruption as fast as i thought it would
I doubt there will be a change/nerf, it is not as good as we make it out to in theory. So many other changes that change how we can push corruption. Unless snap freeze for perma freeze shade still works...
Its a lot stronger than any other spark charge builds though. Which means that they killed spark charges for everyone except sorc. It has to be in line with melee spark charge and LB spark charge imo
Sorcerer got this cycle, spellblade will get next π
spellblade still good anyways
just everyone and their mother is playing sorc because it's crazy busted, but lots of solid stuff this cycle; forge guard manifest armor is actually alot better then people think it is
dunno about crazy busted, maybe few builds are crazy busted but my frostbite sorc defo got hit hard with the nerfhammer
So if it "was not that busted" what about this crazy ward numbers in "new, nerfed ward season"? 
Rip my little spark bug
when are you guys swapping to frost claw as sorc? like what are the requirements
still less than my frostbite sorc could do last season sadly
It's 1 day of cycle, doubt this is optimised numbers, may be optimised version will be 30k+ easly
i'm pretty sure this is legacy character
Oh, you have a point, may be
That is not okay numbers in damage and survivability in 1.1
yeah agree with that
especiaclly after EHG's effort to nerf exactly that kind of stuff
Lets nerf SC runemaster, ok now he's dead(or balanced?). Ok, weeell, let's up sorc's survivability to the moon and gave it like x10 chance on spark charge than runemaster was. Sure there will be mana issues if players will use arcane current right? There is now way with 20 new mana passives and mana tunnel + aftermath meteor combo there will be possible to sustain 40manacost. Right? 
holy f spicy spark charge update, FC triggered ice barrage does actually apply spark charges as well
they don't in the sense that gaining a new stack does not refresh the duration on existing stacks, that's probably intended
Do you ever look at the crap going on in LE and thing, "yeah Hanz, bring out the flamethrower"?
A flamethrower would actually do some damage though 
Which build is best in this cycle?
idk just going off the description it sounded like a complete dud, and a "proc disintegrate" build would be more viable if it, you know, frontloaded procs instead of having you channel for at least 3 seconds to get there.
Surely people have tested everything and found the best builds in less than 24 hours right? 
people near top of ladder playing meteor or glacier, some spark charges people too
base mana cost unfortunately
I've seen a fair bit theorycrafted on youtube, check that out. Although most people seem to be on the lightning max mana train
i leveled with someone playing lightning disintegrate and it was pretty mid, probably better later once you get mana gear
just as we expected yesterday, idk what ehg are even thinking about this stuff
playing claw FC version with ice barrage, can confirm is bonkers
meteor damagea is also bonkers and has better burst but way less survivability
idk I was raw dogging disintegrate yesterday from level 1 and where I ended up at about 75 it deals decent damage. I never played it in an unfinished build before so idk how it compares to a half assed build from 1.0 but it's not terrible, while my gear surely is. No ignivars, no disintegrate levels relic, random blues in half the slots etc. Getting around 10k ticks at level 3
that's fire disintegrate ofc
Atleast all other builds will not be nerfed midcycle like arcane current
no idea how you make lightning work anywhere near low levels without craterborn
Question is when it will be nerfed before it's too late
Alright, can someone explain to me how exactly did the FC RM build got nerfed? I dont really see any massive changes that causes it to bleed mana, am I missing something here?
Runemaster got affected by changes to frost claw mana regen, ward generation nerf, frost shield nerf and ward decay change. Pretty big changes to how the classic frost claw runemaster worked.
So the main reason the build now bleeds mana is because gift of winter no longer triggers on secondary casts, it now only triggers on your casts. Got it. The ward decay stuff etc is not that much of an issue. the main issue is you cant play the build anymore
Welp, time to relevel a sorc I guess
very good, is there any build in tier S?
What kind of copy-paste is this? In every channel 
the ai is leaking
What's arcane current? A node or item?
a passive in the sorc tree
Whatβs the goto spellblade build?
Hopefully surge/static is decent. Iβm respecβing to it once I get that off hand
it should still be decent, although it didn't see any significant changes in this patch save for generic class passives buffs
Is FC the best for triggering harbinger meteors?
does this apply to channeled skills? meaning each channeled cost has a chance to proc it.
it shouldn't but I haven't tested personally
probably works for the initial mana cost
which means its useless for channel stuff
ok tq
playing a runemaster, i've dropped a torch of the pontifex and prism wraps. been playing frost claw ignite up to now but needing to stop every few seconds and focus is bugging me, is there a skill tree i can spec to that has less mana management?
i have an endgame build in mind but leveling a runemaster feels so cancer rn
and there's like zero good runemaster leveling guides for 1.1 everything is just old frostguard etc
you can go with the old established leveling builds to level to 80"ish" and then do a complete 180 and respec into the build you want. If you wanna level fast you almost never start with the skills you want to have in the end
the old established leveling builds for RM seems to be just frost claw which bleeds so much mana rn
for what I know you wanna use mana strike to rebuild your mana after spaming frostclaw
so that should kinda fix your mana issues.
i mean it does, it just feels like ass lol
Does this Proc on triggered spells?
It should
Doesnt mean it does though, always test
"on use" is super vague
Made this at work. You sexy spellblade bros think this is okay? Skills/passives. I've only played one build before (a throwing rogue build) so freeze rate and chill and ward are all for from my expertise. Ty in advance <333
Likely no since it's on use
But iirc ppl asked devs about this and got am answer already. You might want to search
Yeah reading patch notes made really sad, i wanted to try myself and check but maybe it just not worth it
Careful with 40 mana cost, it can show 40, but not count to trigger spark charges, I messed up and didn't notice on new char π Was starting to think the build was no good
anyone lvling with frost claw? I am 26lvl trying to lvl with it, mana cost is 0, but it will go UP when picking up passives?
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hI,
i was checking online and found mana stacking seems to be the new "hype" this cycle.
I saw builds around meteor swarm and glacier... mostly.
any pro and cons/which is better between the 2?
or there is a better one?
Glacier seems to be really good π
yeah it goes up to 40+
bottom left and bottom right nodes make it cost a lot more, but also make it rly rly good
since when can fire aura crit? was it added this patch?
there are some nasty new fire aura idols that ive looted i might cook something rancid later on
Fire aura doesnt scale with any skill so I think it wont be good later
From what I saw it's not a bad thing to add in for cold
also the maxroll guide mentions that with 100% crit on glacier and 600 mana i should self sustain it on ST but its not the case, not even outside of arcane ascendance
glacier paried with what? frost claw? or can share a build i can base it on?
is there a key component ive might overlooked?
People that are committing to the early disintergrate meme/suffering; are you finding it better to spec early intelligence in passives, or mana?
also with glacier, anyone noticing that with high enough castpeed not all your glaciers are doing damage? it feels like 1/3rd of them are just visually displayed but not doing anything
you need castspeed for glacier?
My gut feeling is intelligence early levels, then I can respec for bonus mana once I have disintergrate?
Am I the only one for whom Flame Rush can't be selected in the shortcut options, making my Hydra Runemaster unplayable ?
yeah lots, feels so good to play at high cast speed
I only focused on crit multi, int, and mana
I haven't tried a high cast speed glacier build but I'd imagine it makes it harder to maintain? And static orb does not need any cast speed as well since you one shot right
you will eventually stop one shotting bosses at some point, the higher cast speed should not affect your sustain cause the mana refund does not have an internal cd, so if you mantain at low cast speed you should mantain at high
and with so many multipliers on the bucket eventually castpeed should start vastly outscaling them. Dont take my word for it though, im not quite sure how damage buckets work in this game but if theyre done as in PoE it should be the case
the problem I have with glacier is that I can't reliably maintain it against 1 target. while against groups it's insane, easy mana regen
yeah im having that same issue at 700 mana
What do you think is gonna be the best route for disintegrate? Definitely going runemaster but I dunno if I wanna go with fire auras or fire conversion in general?
Fire as an element is always a safe bet for the ecosystem of fire flavors that exist
With recent changes to channeling there some cool mechanics you can use as a RM too like enhanced mana regen
I can essentially channel Tier 3 disintegrate already at level 35 for quite a long time
I use mana strike for mana regen
I lose a little bit dps but it neccesary for bosses
can someone please explain to me why a lot of sorcs use phantom grip? beside the manaand small crit% affixes i dont see the appeal. isn't there any other ring that would be better?
What's th general consensus on the Sorcerer changes?
getting flat crit can be a pain for spark charges
still feel weird to me that it is still preferred over other rings, wouldn't their overall stats be better?
I didnt do the math but flat crit has insane high value and there arent many ways to get it. The easiest way is through the offhand but thats not possible for spark charges since you use enigma which has no crit on it. So you can use either prismatic gaze or the rings (or both) for flat crit
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/rc1cy0sd
Made this at work. You sexy spellblade bros think this is okay? Skills/passives. I've only played one build before (a throwing rogue build) so freeze rate and chill and ward are all for from my expertise. Ty in advance <333
sry if im annoyingly stupid but i just dont know much about lots of things so i dont wanna play with wrong info in my head
hi guys, is runemaster frost claw not viable anymore ? is sorc now better and what builds do i follow if i wanna move on from the nerf as a sorc/runemaster/spellblade
Recently started playing again so take this with a grain of salt but think frozensentinel posted an updated frost claw video, it's a sorc and not a runemaster though iirc.
If you wanna transition a runemaster to another build I can recommend trying out plasma orb runemaster. Not the most broken by any means but had pretty fun playing it last cycle and only thing that got nerfed was survivability from the ice-fire-ice invocation. By no means op though, had mostly 1 LPs (okay but not all BIS tempers) and started to struggle a little bit at 300 corruption. With that said Snap used it in group to reach 3k corruption so think it's just really gear dependant
found it thanks!
Happy to help!
i wanna play the build i made but i got no idea if its good and it seems like this time of the day is not good for fidning help lol
i mean you can alwys try playing it and see if it works
I have no idea about spellblades so i wont be much of a help checking your build
i meant more the general gist of the skill/skilltrees
like ive never used cold before or chill or freeze (and freeze rate multi blabla) or ward or ward retention or ward on hit etc etc
can someone tell me if I change Static Orb to frost damage, does this node also gets converted and it increases cold damage instead? node that converts the skill works with node Static Ground that converts its damage to cold but I can't tell if it works with this node as well
Is thje fragment of enigma desactivated ?
I'm at something like 20- 25 ascendance on off hand and no drop and like 10 offhand random drop
is a sorc lvling with ice nova.. then white claw doable?
I have seen two so I dont think it's deactivated
Iβm looking to play spark charge spellblade, hopefully the drop rate isnβt bugged.
how good is traitor tongue's +3 for shatterstrike builds? just a random leveling weapon or something i can keep on for a bit?
is it normal that i am absolutely annihilating everything as an electric spellblade
you aint even made it to endgame. what level are you?
31
gguys is frostclaw runemaster good now I'm lvl 58 just started game
does the game actually become hard at some point
my glacier sorc also annihilates but if 3 mobs look at me wrong im dead
it'll pick up it gets harder once you get to end game. you're still in the tutorial
Yes.
The campaign is supposed to be easy, monoliths is harder
what about the gear sets theyll start looking good right or are they still the same stuff were wearing now
Pretty much the same except uniques, in term of looks
Stat wise its way different later.
hey did they nerf the frostclaw runemaster
I still want to make R - R - R runemaster work, that giant fireball is SO satisfying
so theres like 4 to 5 different looking sets thats sad rip
Visually yes, but youre not playing for looks. At least not yet, they prio content which is great 
If you really want drip the supporter packs usually look decent
Guys which class is the strongest with lightning damage?
friends, i just got a rune of ascendance at level 45. im playing shatterstrike + frostclaw, i have mourningfrost boots. is there something i should use this on urgently?
You typically use runes of ascendance to fish for whatever unique is realllly important for your build early on (afaik they cant add lp so bad later in game). Im not familiar with your build so Im not sure what item that would be, but figure out what unique you want and throw it on that item type
i see. i have no idea then!
what invocation would I want for fire disintegrate? New to runemaster
can u get cosmetics from drops or achievements in game
no
how good is spellblade looking now?
I'm looking to play a spark charge build but not sure whether to go for the maxroll one that uses shatter strike or the one on LE tools that uses firebrand
spec int, the mana cost is fairly low without double beams
i just one shot the nemesis through the ward thingy
you never want to omit whiteout in SS, it's a 170% more damage multiplier for 2 points. Your EW tree is meh, flat damage is whatever, go for attack speed. And chill chance is a complete dud. Auto cast is bad cause you don't want it to activate randomly, you want it when you need to burst something. Flame ward tree, you never leave home without 5/5 in Barrier. Freeze rate on retal is whatever. Increased damage while shield is active is meh. Drop FC for something that regens mana like mana strike, you'll need it with whiteout.
you also want at least Sphere of protection in rm, most of your fire aura nodes are unnecessary, but you can keep the node that shreds res and one point into cold conversion. Obviously you also must max volka's razor as it's a free 20% more damage. Max arcane shielding and shattered aegis if you don't want to die to a sneeze. Also use ward on hit idols for survivability, and/or retool into vessel. Max out attack speed nodes in SB.
no because there is nothing to convert it to, other elements' equivalents to the aegis simply do not exist
it's a dagger, it's only usable if you want to go for frostbite SS, which is a fairly dubious prospect in itself given that the lances hitbox/shotgunning is still bugged
it's normal to absolutely annihilate the campaign pretty much on any build of any class, the challenge doesn't start until empowered monos
that's what I though but wanted to be sure, alright thanks
you never use the rune "urgently" because the variance in any slot is fairly high, most of them have pools of like what, 15-20?
none of them have any synergy with disintegrate, and you don't want to waste a spec slot on invo. If you are playing disintegrate on RM, go for glyph.
what do u suggest getting rid off for whiteout?
if i get the attack speed then what do i get for the rest of my nodes? you suggest getting rid of frostbrand fully or just getting rid of the bottom part of the tree and getting the dmg and attack speed?
for flame ward i'll reroute for barrier and link later see ur thoughts cuz i mean yeah fair enough its pretty strong i didnt see it
These are way better for shatterstrike right?
depends how much dex you have
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whats sphere of protection in rm?
Definitely feels underwhelming so far. I will be sticking with it for a while just seeing how much it improves. I initially thought it would shoot them while casting but it obviously doesn't
wait nvm I'm seeing higher dps on shatterstrike with mourningfrost
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/nl1hf0xq @weary hamlet let me know also ty ^^
if you build direct damage, you use mourningfrost. If you build frostbite, you use snowdrift. 100% dictated by your build
Taking one for the team here, even more normal builds of disintegrate already look questionable and the procs sound pretty bad even on paper
Sadge
the only way disintegrate would be half decent is if you could cast while moving
If youβre playing the crit setup youβre gonna want to be dual wielding Hummingbee swords. Iβd use the Rune on 1h swords
Depends if youβre going crit route or frostbite stacking route
If I would swap off of disintegrate all together, is a fireball based build be decent? Those are the 2 skills I wanted to play with the most when I looked at mage
oh a spellblade enjoyer finnaly lol
can you start the maxroll glacier build for sorc or do i need to play something else until i got the uniques?
What skill is the best skill to level sorc with right now?
No, you go for the leveling guide first
I'd go something like this for passives, do note that I haven't played SB in ages and obviously haven't tried it in this patch yet (but it's on my list.. somewhere on the flip side)
Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1b
Mage (32) / Spellblade (73) / Runemaster (8)
βΈ Health: 1,020, Regen: 20/s
βΈ Mana: 103, Regen: 8/s
βΈ Ward Retention: 158%, Regen: 57/s
βΈ Attributes: 1 Str / 15 Dex / 27 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
βΈ Resistances: 27% / 3% / 27% / 0% / 0% / 1% / 1%
βΈ EHP: 740 / 637 / 740 / 626 / 626 / 630 / 630
βΈ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 204
βΈ Dodge Chance: 2% (60)
βΈ Cold / Melee
βΈ None
β’ Shatter Strike (20)
None
which is also glacier
Like, bro...
lightning blast
Yeah but probably two different specs (skill points allocation), it's always better to go for the leveling guide first and then transition afterwards
i know, thats was my plan, im just afraid the leveling guide drops of before i got my uniques
I think you'll be good, the game is pretty easy pre-empowered monoliths
aight imma try, ty
fireball with meteor for craterborn is decent, yes
I'm currently doing campaign but with Runemaster, following the generic leveling guide and it's going fine so far
Interesting ty. I'll look into it
nah, it just needs to do enough damage to justify the turret playstyle, which it already didn't do before and seems like it's going to be even worse now. At least my "normal" fire disintegrate is fairly meh now that I'm hitting empowered. Still got a ton of space for improvement though. The new tree is very point hungry, need a +4 erased relic but Im on cof so FML I guess
i'll give it a try tbf im just starting the character lvl 1 rn anyway, and im guessing u didnt do the mana strike teleport etc skills cuz mine looked okay? also why do you say that flat dmg isnt very impactful? my last build was throwing and it was very impactful so im wondering. also i feel like elemental affinity is good to level for the res but probs eventually drop to 1 point yea
Nah I was just too lazy, I can throw together a few skill trees. Also it's not that flat isn't impactful, it's that between innate +1 per dex on SS and +1 per dex from your boots you don't need to spend that many passive points into minor flat effects
Could anyone playing Shatter Strike Spellblade could help me understanding why this dagger is being used? The guide doesn't tell me how to proc Frost Claw. There's a passive for that but guide doesn't spec into it.
especially given that you have no shortage of actually good passives now, like say prodigy is giga pumped, it's reasonable to reach about what - 50-60 int in this kind of build, without completely dumping dex? That's already a base 4% crit
hmm okay, and feel free to just look at the trees i did and correct them if u want im sure their not too bad
frost claw has a node that lets itself be triggered by melee and there is another similar node in the SB tree
is that good?
no idea, last time I played SS sb was in 0.8.2. But on paper it looks decentish? You don't need double crystals cause you already have a ton of AS from various sources, and this is 4% flat crit, 15%+ all res, ~50% crit multi. And some fluff and procs and sh it
And it's not terribly hard to get at 2+ LP I guess
Kinda random but does cast speed do anything for disintegrate?
you start it up a bit faster, but it has no effect on damage ticks. Same as for all other channeled spells
Interesting ty. Good to know
i havent looked at items at all for the build you think theres any bis?
check some guides, I'm sure maxroll dudes have listed a BIS list full of 4 lp legendaries. Or did they drop that part? idk
what lance?
i mean im not following a guide so i dont see why they'd have a build around my build
also is there a map or list or something to guide me thru campaign faster, like knowing which sidequests in which map to do etc
also any recommended skill to use until i get spellblade?
For crit SS? Get 2 x hummingbee swords for the attack speed and ward
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BOXrnPwo added the skill trees, same disclaimers apply
Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1b
Mage (32) / Spellblade (73) / Runemaster (8)
βΈ Health: 1,020, Regen: 20/s
βΈ Mana: 103, Regen: 8/s
βΈ Ward Retention: 158%, Regen: 57/s
βΈ Attributes: 1 Str / 15 Dex / 27 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
βΈ Resistances: 27% / 3% / 27% / 0% / 0% / 1% / 1%
βΈ EHP: 740 / 637 / 740 / 626 / 626 / 630 / 630
βΈ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 204
βΈ Dodge Chance: 2% (60)
βΈ Cold, Lightning / Melee, Spell
βΈ Enchant Weapon (Passive)
β’ Shatter Strike (20)
β’ Mana Strike (20)
β’ Flame Ward (20)
β’ Enchant Weapon (20)
β’ Teleport (20)
None
hmm okay
when you build for frostbite you usually take the nodes on the right that deal with ice spikes (I guess the aren't named lances after all), but the spikes had been wonky for a while now
those used to be super busted but now I don't think those are good even at low level after all the nerfs
why disclaimers? in the end it was pretty similar to what i had so thats good
I freaking love this! Wanted to try spellblade this cycle. Do you guys have a leveling build? I love ARPGs but I suck at understanding what has good synergy.
didnt even know it was nerfed lol
I still haven't been playing this build in ages so somebody might have more current working knowledge of it. But I haven't seen anybody here playing it on the regular, with the sad state of SB in general these past patches
hm okay, well it might not be the best but whatever ill see how it feels, its probs got a good chance to freeze too so if stuffs frozen stuffs not hitting me
What nerf are you referring to? Ward?
From the spellblade patch notes it says:
Prismatic Bladeβs effects have been replaced. It now grants 1 dexterity per point and 1 added melee damage per point. The added melee damage is doubled if using a sword. It now also has a threshold bonus which grants 8% increased attack speed.
I don't see in the passive itself anything mention about doubling when using a sword. Anyone who can validate the source of truth ?
it's not bad, the problem is more that SB used to have nothing except for it. Now I guess there is much more potential of hybrid builds of all kinds, I'll perhaps be rolling one myself later on.
hybrid as in hybrid dmg or stats or what? also what the hell is the bluie bars on t op of ennemies sometimes lol
hybrid as in a proc build that also scales some melee damage. Although perhaps it's now more meta to drop melee altogether and just go for procs. IDK need to research that more
bosses used to have a completely hidden stacking damage reduction, this new ward as extra healthbars mechanic replaced it
ah okay, also talking about scaling, what do you think i should focus on the build? like 1h swords with attack speed and melee dmg or cold dmg? like not sure if i should focus melee dmg or melee attack speed or cold dmg on gear
i dont have a chance in hell of doing lagan with my current char/gear, jesus
cant u skip it
You can
so what's the point of using Meteor in the FC Spark Charge build, just for the buff?
you don't need too much as from your weapons at endgame as you'll have a ton from passives and some from the crystal sword base. Get crit chance if needed until cap, crit multi, melee ele damage (higher roll values), flat cold melee etc.
Is there a good stat breakdown I can look at that tells me the cap for things like crit cap? I know the basics like 75% defense and all that. But other things I do not
hmm would going lightning disintegrate work with spark charges?
hm okay, and for like armour and helm etc ig shatter level and then just whatever i can find like cold dmg etc?
I finally replaced Avarice! \o/
avarice is pog for mages though
I donβt think so. I think disintegrate on counts as βAβ hit so there wonβt be many charges
Melee cold.
Crit.
Crit Multi.
Attack Speed.
but the static orb and lightning procs counts as hits though right?
Yeh but they only proc off the disintegrate hits? Of which there is only 1? Not sure of your build so not 100% on that
hmm
hmkay
sorry boss, but you seem to be a pretty smart guy so i gotta ask question. how long can i get away with using mourningfrost boots for ss+frostclaw? are they actually good for all the flat from dex?
Any recommendations on Frost Claw vs Glacier? new to LE and undecided which way to go
like just lagan? or skip campaig until im strong enough?
trying around with frost claw atm ...
Disintegrate doesn't hit so how would you apply them?
static orb and lightning blast procs
From what I know people either skip campaign after chapter 7 or chapter 5. I think the 7 route is easier as you get all your passive points along the way. The 5 route you have to go back and get them
sure but why would you choose to go that route if you want to abuse that charge passive when you could go with FC, IB, IB and FC, VO, SO etc? Way more hits per second to apply the charges
those are your bis boots, just stack a little more resist to compensate for the drawback
But you can just go straight to monoliths right now if you want
well new toy syndrome lol
since we cannot abuse the fc proc novas no more
I prefer Glacier for leveling
i read comments, shouldent go for disintegrate build ? i like it so much
It seems to be kinda meh with the main drawback being you're forced to plant your feet when casting. I think you might be able to make fire disintegrate work.
how many levels behind can i be in the campaign? like im low level rn lvl 11 and zone is 13, should i hit 12 before i leave ?
No just go. Levels wont really matter
I'm currently running it on my new cycle sorc and it's not completely unplayable, but it doesn't look good so far. Got into early empowered, struggling with survivability and the damage is meh. Looks to be strictly worse than the old fallacy build but my gear is ultra trash so far, might be decent enough in the end
also I'm still unable to run the double beams cause my mana pool can't support it with my current gear
really? isnt there a maximum level behind ammount
Also, the combination with Laser Focus and Hyperfocal seem worthless.
it's kinda good if you have above 3k max mana.. although is it that much better than the fire scaling even at that much mana, idk
Anyone know if Yruns Penance 100% conversion of mana strike base damage to cold converts spark charges on the skill tree to cold too?
also since you aren't casting nor hitting and your disintegrate is free, you are getting very limited benefits from max mana
no because such a thing doesn't exist
Spark charges on tree and the sword Yruns Penance?
no, I mean cold damage spark charges. There are just the regular spark charges.
Oh ok it doesn't convert then thanks
Campaign skip can only be on alts right?
depends on what you mean by that, but it's largely impossible and/or pointless to do on your first character, yes
Uh no? You can do campaign skips without Monos, you just need dungeon keys, but you likely won't have the gear needed to do the dungeons
two viable methods are to do campaign till retrieving the lance (full skill points and idol slots unlocked), then farm monos till you get a sanctum key, then use that to get to ch9 to pick up your faction. The other is to do campaign till the tablet quest in imperial majasa, swap to monos till you get a sanctum key, pick up your faction and do some ch9 side quests to finish your unlocks
You can also go into monos the first time you get into the end of time, but without alt gear clearing them at level 20 is gonna be a pain, and you'll have to go back to campaign later for idol slots anyways
Why do Runemasters go for Flame Rush over Teleport? Is it just the 40% DR?
Loads of reasons but it can give runes, trigger etc
Teleport usually just moves you and empower next spell or mana cost which doesnt do a whole lot
Also Flame Rush has more drip and is more fun to use
No, it's the worst teleport skill I have ever used in any game I've played
@pseudo verge seems mandatory for the runes then, I can get that at least. Thank you!
To each their own I guess
You cant see it, only in like Training dummy place with a bridge BUT
You T pose underground when you use it, thats drip enough. π
LOL, really? That's actually hilarious
Holding down the button to "channel" it sucks. Teleport is instant, a blink skill. The difference is huge in what feels good. But I guess Flame Rush it is for the runes and triggers
I just needed to know why people unironically used it but I didn't read the skilltree so that's on me. Thanks for saving me time on that haha
wait did they really disable the emote responses? But basically this, flame rush giga sucks in UX
Idk, Flame Rush is infinitely more satisfying to use for me personally and can actually do damage (and I love the sound effects), but that's just personal preference!
Glad I'm not the only one of that opinion
To each their own, I LOVE flame rush, its the best channel skill.
Personally the only channel skill I like and every channel that makes you stand still is bad.
it's also glitchy as hell in the number of runes that it gives, although I guess that's a non issue for 99,9999% of RM players cause they just use immutable order
Yeah, each to their own! Nothing wrong with liking or disliking it
This 100%, I hate channel skills, but Flame Rush is GOATed for me
You can also make it not channeled too with the Glyph of Intention node if you use Glyph of Dominion, although that node was buggy AF for me when I last tried it
it's buggy and slow, it feels even worse to use
Why didn't you guys tell me I can use it to get through some walls. That's pretty neat!
Anyone finding a particular variant of sorc really effective ? I think I was 54 when I logged out
Someone here usin cold snap too on glacier? I dont know why this is not on the maxroll build is insane damage 200%
what kind of stats do you guys prioritize? it is spell power way ahead of everything else?
Completely depends on your build
hmm what if i am a person who presses fireball 3 times and the 3 fire invocation
frost claw is rly dwn ... π¦
int and mana are both pretty hard to argue with with the current state of mage
but it all depends on what you actually put your passives in
I like that π
Spell damage. Fire damage. Int.
Why?
who needs fancy combos and piano playing when you can have : fireball -> Beeeg Fireball
i used to play invoker in dota 2 so im used to creating different spells im just not sure i like using some of the wimpy ones just to get runes for that type
i see how half the tree is about doing 3 different rune attacks though, so maybe I'll adjust eventually
there is the one node in runic that allows you to make it automatically match the first three elements in your hotbar, as well, if you want to focus on just one combo
i did see that one and was a bit confused on how that would play out. sometimes i use the small aoe move that does all 3 rune types in order to mix different invocations
is anyone running sanctum this morning? need the clear for the skip and cant drop a key to save my life π¦
i have a pretty messed up talent selection right now its a bit wild
i haven't actually used it myself, but to my understanding it just takes any spell cast you do and counts it as though it were one of those three skills' elements instead
yeah i just dont see a lightning move i like so i dont want to put it on the toolbar.
i havent messed with any damage type conversions yet so that might change my mind
i had the opposite problem on my rm, i wound up just using 2 lightnings and 3 lightnings and nothing else (other than the occasional fire from flame ward)
incidentally, fwiw it is probably just a single point (depending on where you traveled in the tree ofc) for you to convert flame ward to any element you might want, which could be handy
flame ward is pretty nice, the cd is just messing with me. in 1.0 i played totem primalist so i would keep the heal on the whole time. not being able to spam flme ward is rough
i know there is the 2 charge talent, but then the cd is even longer O.o
yeah, i personally like to run the cast flameward on stun node alongside two charges. anything doing enough damage to kill you is very likely to stun you anyway, so it's usually good, but it will sometimes burn a charge on irrelevant stuff that stunned but didn't matter damagewise
but that is just a skill issue on my part
that stun talent has been working out pretty well for me. im only lvl 40 so nothing comes close to 1 shotting yet
i've only ever played mage, so i can't really compare to how other classes handle durability, but i've definitely watched flame ward save my life plenty of times
this is my first time playing mage so the ward buildup really confuses me. i just kinda dont die even when im standing its odd
cause im not using an ice block, and im a squishy caster, but i dont die
yeah, after the sorc buffs our earlygame durability is actually stupid rn. i was beating nemesis bosses before monoliths by literally standing still and holding right click. it does level off though, and they did nerf massive ward stacking, so we're contending with an exponential decay rate now as opposed to a linear one
i assume the empowered monoliths are going to make me cry when i have to not eat every mechanic. all bosses seem to have more adds now, which is scary
i haven't gotten there yet, but i can say monolith lagon could kill me instantly with his eye breath attack even with full ward + flame ward, on like 120 cold/light resist
i thought resist stopped at 75
i'm playing ssf though, i'm sure life would be easier if i were buying things that could jack my durability scaling up
yeah, resists do stop at 75, but enemies get +1 pen per area level (as per a tooltip i'm trusting is accurate), so just having 75 at a 75 area is equivalent to none
granted, i'm also a noob and don't know for sure how this game works in that regard, but my assumption has been we're gonna need to stack them a lot higher than 75 to really be durable in endgame
maybe, idk too much about the game
the penetration happens after your resistance is capped so going over 75 won't help that
dangit, i was worried that was the case
Overcapping helps with resistance shred though like shock and mark for death
So has anyone been playing with the new Disintegrate? How's it feeling so far?
I'ts kinda garbageish but playable
What's bad about it? Damage? Survivability? Just the channelling playstyle?
damage doesn't pay off for you having to stand still
That's a shame. How did you build it?
fire int stack
Well I may try the lightning version and see how it feels, and then pivot into something else if it doesn't work out, I guess
Whats good on mage rn
So is anyone playing frostbite anymore? Is it dead build now?
My frostbite sorc feels like 3 times weaker
I'm only level 45, nowhere near end game, but my lightning disintegrate build nukes everything easily and I've had a good time going through the campaign with it. My plan is to transition to a mana-stacking variant in end game which is more gear dependent.
Is there any good guide for cold dot sorcerer? I saw some runemaster video and they said sorcerer will be better this season but doesn't tell what to change.
I have no real problems with mana uptime...using focus in the build, but really only need it once during boss fights
That sounds promising! Are you doing any triggers with it, like Lightning Blast or Static Orb?
I'm not sure how the mana stacking thing will turn out - you need 1200 mana to break even on damage, I think, and you get less ailment frequency, too. But it does make it free to cast
I feel like if you're going for the Hyperfocal node, you're probably also using it to trigger Lightning Blast or Static Orb which can help with the ailment application
Yeah, that's true
Oooo, you know what we need though? We need some unique boots that transform your Evade into a short range blink that doesn't interrupt channeling abilities
I like that idea!
anyone knows any build with Aergon's fireball? Don't think I've ever seen something with it and I really like how impactful it feels when it lands
Is it just me or does mage evade seems to . . . slow us down while primalist roll seems smoother
mage is kinda old and all, eh
Is Crest of Unity still bugged af? (Uncapped Res not giving the %Pen, not proccing debuffs on Sorc, etc.)
Iβm building Frostbite Spellblade to see if it still works. On paper it still looks hella strong.
how is the glacial sorc build from maxroll? The video they posted seems to be from the pre-ward nerf
it crushes given enough gear
I don't really love glacier but can't find another build that looks great
Only 54 though
go meteor
Glacier is really good for leveling...u can switch off it after a while, if you desire
alright you convinced me ill give it a try, if it cant push high corruption maybe ill try to swap it to spark charge or something
Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1
Mage / Sorcerer
β’ Meteor
β’ Focus
β’ Flame Ward
β’ Teleport
β’ Arcane Ascendance
β’ Harbinger of Stars
β’ Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros
β’ Frostbite Shackles
β’ Transient Rest
β’ Throne of Ambition
Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer / Cycle Starter / Beginner / SSF / Ranged
is legit the smoothest build once you make the transition to meteor. im talking one shotting nemesis through the ward
Yeah, Meteor is super good
Yes, my current phase of the build uses both lightning strike and static orb. End game version of the build would run at like 2K mana, drop focus, restructure a good chunk of the skill trees as well. I don't know if it'll work or feel good, but I'm goign to give it a try
Experimentation is part of the fun. That's probably the thing I like most about LE in general.
how is it going for that relatively early like lvl50
i transitioned at level 25ish, Got around 500 mana at level 50 and it then it really came online
oh π well im 50 and have 134 mana but i havent really found any good upgrades in 20 levels
gotta craft the gear. i recommend shattering stuff and forging, you wont really find direct 1-1 upgrades
ye i guess youre right
they dont really tell that during the campaign but they should
ye i have been but not a lot, too lazy. i do the same stupidity in POE. Ill die 30 times to a boss instead of going to hideout to craft res π
Recheck your passives, maybe? ...Im 32 with 2 mana mods in gear and I got 275mana
ye im playing standard glacier leveling atm so i havent really specced into mana
Yeah...my first character died at 71, so this one is a little ahead of the curve with some gear and more mats to work with
the nerf to snowdrift and frostbite shackles were kinda rough for the build though
Does anyone havea build guide for fire disintegrate?
sry but what is a mana mod?
This build is awesome, started doing mono's around level 30 with this
man cycle 2 is just like cycle 1, not even worth playing
well...see you in 4 months! Gluck!
in 4 months i will likely be playing d4 expansion instead
...ouch. I guess, gratz?
why ouch? d4 season 4 is actually better than last epoch, I just kinda got done with it
oh lord, I thought this was only an all chat topic
hence I muted it
has anyone made a build around runic energizer? the node that gives faster runic energy the more different runic invocations you have cast
thats an exaggeration
not at all
not to mention the janky balance in last d4 season where sorc has no build that can really compete in pit with necro etc
if u like d4, why not go on d4 discord and tell them that instead of here? π
balance wise there is a room for a lot of improvement, but LE has balance issues too, just look at sorc in cycle 1. but d4 season 4 improved so much compared to season 1-3. hell, they even implemented last epoch-esque crafting
ye it took them a year to make the game worth playing (except sorc, which they havent touched since they "fixed" the bl build)
i finished season 4 so i quit until s5, but it took a lot longer to "finish" it than previous seasons
i still get as much if not more out of LE. But POE > TLI > the others atm for enjoyment time by far.
season 4 was basically first time game was out of beta testing and yes they need to get a grip on sorc
i hope the expansion is a banger, just like expansion in diablo 2 and diablo 3 was
i just hope its not a cashgrab
Ok, I wasnt going to engage...but lets assume you're not actually trolling.
Season 4 was literally them fixing their goddam awful sh@t that the game was, after being "fixed" twice. it STILL didnt fix many issues with gear, hence the many builds that can still go to 100% immunity, like Barbs and Rogues.
Not only that, Season 5 will once again introduce a mode that is plain and doesnt add any meaningful gameplay loop and is boring as f__k.
I really do want, or wanted, D4 to actually be good and fun, but more and more they show that their design direction is completely blind and misguided
necro in d4 has 10-ish builds, 1 build does 40,000,000,000 hits on command, 7 of the 10 builds struggle with low millions dps, idk what kind of game design that is
I think the ward getting nerfed was expected across the board so shackles is still good, just not giving broken numbers of ward.
Snowdrift will only provide half the penetration it used to, but it will still be a lot. Only way to find out is to build it and see how far I can get it
Frostbite damage increases offsets the nerf too
all the people who play the 40b build are like "see the games great"
lets not pretend, all games have issues. none of what you said makes season 4 bad though, just means the game was horseshit before, which it was
s4 didnt really have a league mechanic. Did add pit though
neither does last epoch 1.1? it's the same as 1.0 but with 1 new boss
it does
You are enforcing my point. Season 4 had nothing adde to the game in terms of gameplay. I literally had my Shako day5 of the patch because you could grind rep witht the stupid merc faction (that did not add or give anything in terms of gameplay...like, you know, a merc!) and all the bosses were the same chore.
The Pit was the best saving grace added recently and yet, after 130+ it starts to be a slog
the variance between min and max builds within a class in d4 are at a ratio of 1:10,000. the devs acknowledge this and say its a GOOD thing
Anyone has a loot filter for glacier sorc? (end game)
I'd recommend watching Perry The Pig's video on how to build your own filter, it's very worth doing in this game
ok now you stopped being a realistic grown up, time for me to bow out
D4 bad
i have 500 hours i know how to build im just looking for something deent to build on - anyone has anything plz send DM dont tag gme with useless info ty
Well that's the thing: once you've got a decent filter template, all you need to do is select the affixes you want and it's easy to adjust for any build. That's why it's worth taking the time to do it yourself
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/glacier-sorcerer-guide#loot-filter-header
click on "generate loot filter"
I truly cannot understand how people lasted for 500 hours of last epoch, quite amazing actually. I didn't even last for 140 hours of cycle 1
Some of us have been playing it for a large portion of early access
yeah I know, which is what amazes me, what did ya'll do "for fun"?
Make builds π€·ββοΈ
this is the mage chat not the cry chat
LE has potential for sure, as a little brother to PoE, but the game is nowhere near THAT good, not yet anyway
we are mages, chatting
the comparison itself is a compliment to the game