it'll be a cute lil chest to try out
#🧙┃mage
safe grail
hollow arrow
man hitting 800+ corruption has damn near doubled my uniques it feels like
just had 3 non lp unstables drop in one echo just now
with a gaze at end
and another 1lp unstable
wtf
lmao max roll elemental dmg
lets go 500m ez
cedar ocean
Btw a little stupid question
How can I effectively calculate my crit chance %
As sheet says 60 something percent
But I feel like I am critting always haha
crimson raft
How can I effectively calculate my crit chance %
Take your skill and chuck it in an excel sheet, add in the flat % and the increases % and there you go! Some work, but it works 🙂
cedar ocean
Yeah I will give that a try, thanks!
Just gotta make sure to find what gives me what
Wish it showed easier in tooltip but oh well haha
crimson raft
Yeah, maybe in x cycles we'll get one per skill that works!
But bonus doing it this way, is that you really get to understand where\how your crits are coming from and what makes the biggest impacts etc
cedar ocean
I just wonder if gaze with 3% will be enough
Instead of 4% that I currently have
As 4% ones are pricey/rare to find haha
hollow arrow
you should be able to run a nonlp 4% crit gaze
i did for a long time till i finally got one with 1lp
stiff crown
With LB Closed Circuit, I can hit about 14 stacks on average with a 46% claw and 20 Mana Strikes attacks every 4 seconds. That's 420% increased damage from Closed Circuit and 240% increased damage from Rune Sap on a single target, and 560% increased crit chance (but you should already be closed to cap anyway). The range on the chain kind of sucks but Snap Freeze makes it a bit safer. I can get even more stacks on average if I specced in Enchant Weapon
20 attacks per 4 seconds. 30% chance to cast FC on melee hit Macuahuitl which the most likely outcome is 6 FC. Each FC has 5 hits. 30 FC hits at 46% to cast LB which the most likely outcome is 14 procs.
safe grail
stack deez
strange flicker
almost 4k corr now
safe grail
Disclaimer: Puru's build requires a bit of a brain 😛
it's not your normal playstyle for FC iirc
left tundra
almost 4k corr now
the goals i'm about to hit 3.2k
strange flicker
alot of getting sniped by mobs 
cedar ocean
I am at like 900 corr and it already gets slower a lot on bosses
Not sure if I am missing something
strange flicker
like shades/ gazes?
cedar ocean
Yeah
strange flicker
i mean rm st damage outside of monos isnt that amazing, compared to some busted classes
but bosses are free
it just takes longer
safe grail
think we generally struggle w/ shades, but also turbo struggle if they come with very specific, anti-rm affixes
cedar ocean
Yeah true
strange flicker
rather than struggle its more like we take longer
but i bet at like 10k corr
rm prob best shade killer kek
just take 5 min
or 7
lmao
left tundra
i'm curious to see the planner though
strange flicker
silk pewterBOT
strange flicker
the lightning blast in the bar is just for cold runes
strange flicker
not rly very useful imo its abit bait
strange flicker
julras are
strange flicker
super insane
safe grail
butttttttttttttt
strange flicker
if u kno h2 use the procs too esp its p nutty
safe grail
o that was the one
strange flicker
unlucky
strange flicker
still worth cause i needed the resist
strange flicker
but ya the triple int proc is nuts
safe grail
glad to see someone valuing confluence
no one understands that the flat dmg is fkn busted
safe grail
ye
cedar ocean
Hmm one more question puru, since you're running static armor
cedar ocean
You got over 300 mana threshhold?
strange flicker
ye
safe grail
it's kinda amusing
cedar ocean
Or dont care about it
strange flicker
i got 302
cedar ocean
I see
safe grail
i still maintain that ele dmg is bait
strange flicker
i target it if i dont int usually since its free dmg
cedar ocean
Thanks man!
safe grail
if you add flat dmg, then add spell dmg, it enhances ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL that
p heavily.
strange flicker
its also just alota added dmg
like the amount u get
from dis 1 item
way 2 much
LOL
strange flicker
also the base imp
strange flicker
is already insane
safe grail
implicit is big for DR
hollow arrow
and yeah that neck is nice
strange flicker
f
safe grail
yeah
hollow arrow
also ex
safe grail
i am gonna drop nova off tho
i like it, but with full drag's claw build, gotta enhance it better
it's missing too much w/ only 2/3 celestial
back to my previous build for now 🙂
safe grail
confluence?
hollow arrow
ye
hollow arrow
tru
the two lowest aint bad stats tho
18/15/15 and 15/17/17 flat stats
but yeah could change in no time, nobody runs them lol
2's are 0-10k so yeah
safe grail
yeah it's stretched too thin with this setup
wild thorn
I have a wand with more Spell Dmg and more Element % but it does less than another. Can anyone help me make sense of that?
left tundra
dead slams
dead slams are brutal i've bricked 6 red rings so far
hollow arrow
hows your setup sharoon
since you at 3.2
no donor chests at reasonable prices yet ex lmao
people still askin high for t7 int chests
cedar ocean
Hmmm Puru, how's Spark of Celerity not benefitting instead of 4 points in Artor's spectre?
I assume you're not having mana issues but isn't projectile speed wanted?
strange flicker
no projectile speed is useless
ur capped by cast speed, the projectile speed does nothing
cedar ocean
ohhh I see
strange flicker
also u always want as little celerity points as possible
to whatever ur mana can handle
cedar ocean
So that %dmg becomes much more valuable than the mana eff
if you dont have mana problems
strange flicker
yea
cedar ocean
I see, thanks a lot man!
left tundra
hows your setup sharoon
it's a relatively cookie cutter frostclaw setup using static for the defense ill link my planner later when i'm off work.
hard orbit
the prophet has spoken!
hollow arrow
hard orbit
For builds using reowyns frostguard, why dont they pick epilogue from flame rush?
safe grail
eats too much mana iirc
safe grail
yeeeeeeee
cedar ocean
I rolled back to Plasma orb RM lastweek due to crazy prices on anything for Frostclaw
As long as you have HH support in party
It clears 2k corr like crazy even in group
stiff crown
For builds using reowyns frostguard, why dont they pick epilogue from flame rush...
I use it, but I regain mana pretty quick so I don't have mana issues
I think the Mana spent is also credited towards Julra and Strands
hard orbit
I use it, but I regain mana pretty quick so I don't have mana issues
good point, I have 0 mana issues tbh so will throw a jab at it
Has anyone figured out what's going on with never late? I "feel" its up all the time but its kinda hard to pinpoint with 30000 hits and explosions with frostclaw nova
and it doesnt show on your character sheet
stiff crown
I thought we figured out it was bugged
hard orbit
yeah but how does it even work, is it flat% crit? does it get affected by %crit increase? does it stack?
safe grail
it looks like it is flat, yeah
hard orbit
I've tried messing around with points on the talent, sometimes it shows on my buffs, sometimes it doesnt
hard orbit
it looks like it is flat, yeah
oh so it doesnt get affected by % crit increase? its just added crit on top of your total?
hard orbit
but it doesnt show on your character stats, weird.
hard orbit
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
safe grail
crit chance on next spell
hard orbit
and stays active forever.
that is ridiculously op tho
heady scarab
Hey all. New to mage. Had a molten core with lp drop and wondering if it would be good for a mage build. Anything come to mind?
hard orbit
molten core?
heady scarab
Sorry, unstable core. 🙂
cedar ocean
Yeah it is usable for the frostclaw build, which is one of the best runemaster builds right now
heady scarab
Ok great ty. Any suggestions on what to slam with the lp? Or maybe I’ll go find a guide first 🙂
heady scarab
Ok great tyvm, will check it out!
stiff crown
@hard orbit You still doing Mana Strike or have you evolved?
sturdy summit
<@445945567034474506> You still doing Mana Strike or have you evolved?
Mana Strike is evolving. It has become... Labor Strike!
hard orbit
Never did mana strike
stiff crown
Oh okay
I think I have mistaken you for someone else. I needed someone to help me test something
hard orbit
I think I have mistaken you for someone else. I needed someone to help me test s...
except if you mean a spellblade build I'm trying out (but its a long way)
stiff crown
Ah, maybe that’s why I got confused. I’m trying to test interactions between Enchant Weapon and RM exclusive specific skills and passives
I’m starting to slow down around 1500c so I need to evolve my build
I think I just need to get off an auto pilot build and actually start playing the game with 2 hands
full bluff
Been testing Glacier a bit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrlqgy7iKTQ it is not bad, far from frost claw level, but within the 300-500 corruption range. Pretty speedy way to play it.
hardy loom
Been testing Glacier a bit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrlqgy7iKTQ it is not...
FAR from fc level
i lowkey wish glacier is like in PoE
double triple cast glacier that clears near half the screen ....
full bluff
After having testing various skills, there is a pattern, most work fine at 100 corruption, a few works well at 300. Very few work beyond that, with speed. So the pattern is, frost claw is the one that is off
So we will probably get a buff to frost claw in 1.1 🙂
hardy loom
how about buff the other skillsss
full bluff
Think that is too much work
hardy loom
🙈
full bluff
Just buff (under cover of rebalancing) frost claw and everyone is happy
sinful hamlet
So we will probably get a buff to frost claw in 1.1 🙂
That is sad to hear after building frostclaw in my first playthrough....
unborn hamlet
buffing frostclawn?
this dude on some cope 😂
what do you want, RMs to go into the 100k corruption range?
😂
hollow arrow
just the 50k's
unborn hamlet
after the patch to exploding balista and profane veil it might be just the most broken ass ability in this game and u want to buff it , i legit cackled
full bluff
Last time they tried to nerf frost claw, we ended up with a major buff to it 🙂
safe grail
Post is out re: MG
unborn hamlet
Post is out re: MG
nice, ban em all
take em flamethrowers from Musk and go on a sweep
now to check if im banned or not cos im paranoid even tho i never touched MG anyway 😂
hollow arrow
same
i'll get hit cuz i sold some stuff during that exploit duration
lmao
i understand doing a gold tax in 1.1 tho
gold inflates fast lmao
wouldn't be as fast as this cycle since we've had a dupe exploit/redeem exploit at start, then this gold exploit
but i could see it going up decently well
hollow arrow
yeah
oh someone bought a thing from g2g lmao
sold count went up
right when they are hunting rmt's
lmao
safe grail
wouldnt even talk about that anymore in here
they are muting/banning for everything it seems
hollow arrow
it seems like it's in general the most
i usually hang here now cuz herp derp fest in there'
safe grail
yeah i need to just avoid genny as well
hollow arrow
lmao
unborn hamlet
imagine even going to the gen chat in the first place
always avoid that in big servers
😂
hollow arrow
but yeah, i mean prices wont be as high at the start, nor will it climb fast long as they keep exploits away
but gold tax will increase it for sure
Will see what changes they do for 1.1 with factions, and will decide what to join then
unborn hamlet
i will have to see what they cook for next cycle, i asked Mike yday and he confirmed they are overhauling the perks for both factions
hollow arrow
yeah i saw that
unborn hamlet
yea exactly same
hollow arrow
for now i'll just ride out rest of MG
and try out lightning marksman if i ever get some drops for it while im chasing corruption
unborn hamlet
im kind of done for the cycle i think
hollow arrow
lmao
unborn hamlet
so im not stressing it
hollow arrow
time for upgrade
unborn hamlet
yea
already looking at options, depending on how fat my pay will be this month might snag one now, or month after
should be in time for next cycle
looking at solid 8core intel 7th gen 5ghz, 16/32gb ram with at least 40 series nvidia
or better
considering trying out MSi , heard many good things about their gaming laptops, while Asus left me down with this one
its a solid lappy, but the overheating is awful
stiff crown
Laptops will never not overheat compared to a PC unless the cooling is just insanely loud or sophisticated, imo
Towers can overheat too but at least there’s more space for air flow and stuff
unborn hamlet
Laptops will never not overheat compared to a PC unless the cooling is just insa...
I know, more than anyone really, I have 3 desktops and 3 laptops
It's just I have no space for a gaming tower
stiff crown
You can also buy external cooling pad that have fans where you put your laptop on
unborn hamlet
Small rent apart
unborn hamlet
You can also buy external cooling pad that have fans where you put your laptop o...
I have that too
stiff crown
Play on the toilet. Be efficient
unborn hamlet
I think it's just that the CPU/GPU is just faulty at this point
I am monitoring the temperature from other PC, and it's usually flatlined at 80-85, which is normal
But it spikes to 100+ for no reason, and that just blue screens the lappy
And I can't figure out why that happens
Even when I'm not doing any and it sits at around 30-40, it randomly spikes to 90+ , when there is absolutely no reason for it
stiff crown
Maybe some crazy updates running in the background? Did you check task manager?
unborn hamlet
I tried about everything, even a different voltage
I just think the internal measuring sensors are just done
stiff crown
Different voltage? You have a transformer you’re using or something? lol
stiff crown
Oh, ok
unborn hamlet
Electrician btw
stiff crown
We’re short on good electricians here. Apply and you can probably get in fairly easy
unborn hamlet
Why would I, I work as an IT depart manager 😂 would be a huge downgrade
rough python
Frozen malice on frost claw tree, has anyone tested dps. I feel im killing mobs faster but not sure if it affects single target dps for bosses.
stiff crown
More work, but the union treats you well
unborn hamlet
i meant in terms of wage
stiff crown
Yeah, I understand
unborn hamlet
not everyone makes 5k a month in s*** post commie eastern block EU country
got lucky
gotta keep the job until i kick the bucket
stiff crown
Ah, you’re EU
unborn hamlet
if i wanted to move elswhere it would be some aussie tech giant at best
honestly, going to the USA is a downgrade at this point
with my health issues i would just drown in medical debt
😂
stiff crown
I’m in US, but I have family in AU
unborn hamlet
i have nothing against yall there but ya crazy, with ur systems
stiff crown
Both places have their pros and cons
unborn hamlet
safety, education, healthcare, food regulations, im sorry but its just bad across the board, im sure there is nice parts of US too, but its hard to see them across the mountains of bad
safe grail
the only issue w/ leaving the US and being an expat anywhere else is literally that
just being an expat
lol
unborn hamlet
i wanna visit yellowstone in my lifetime tho
safe grail
you get targeted p heavily
also my wife would unfortunately have ot leave her career so...cant do that
unborn hamlet
fair enough
sturdy summit
I'm already a political refugee. I don't need to be an expat too.
stiff crown
I like it here. I’ve had a great experience so far and same with my parents who are first generation immigrants, and I don’t wish to leave, but I’ll also say that every place has their ups and downs so the grass isn’t always greener on the other side. I’ll leave it at that.
unborn hamlet
60?
safe grail
although, it was the USSR at the time
holy sht lol
unborn hamlet
actually when did the USSR fell apart
sturdy summit
I'm 40. I was only 4 when my family left
unborn hamlet
91
our country had it ´´good´´
we had Velvet revolution
if u know what that is
sturdy summit
we got permission to leave in 89. We were supposed to go to israel, because my grandfather was jewish, but when we got to Rome, we sold our tickets and applied for political asylum in the US.
sturdy summit
many many bullets
safe grail
jeeze man
unborn hamlet
your parents are Neo from matrix
safe grail
that's a wild story
unborn hamlet
i was like how are u a political refugee from USSR 😂
damn tho, 40, stay chill and play videogames,
sturdy summit
my grandfather was an accomplished mathematician, so they let all of us in :p
hard orbit
came here for the mage builds, stayed for the wholesomeness
glass canopy
i like turtles
unborn hamlet
Einsteins descendant 
i like how a lot of people think Einstein was in the 1700´s 1800´s like
bro he died 1955
sturdy summit
the logical conclusion is that Einstein was a vampire 🤣
sturdy summit
I think 89 sounds wrong
sturdy summit
I think it must have been 87, because I was born in 83, and I couldn't have been 4-5 when we left if it was in 89
unborn hamlet
he is talking about the Berlin Wall
sturdy summit
oh yeah
safe grail
yeah berlin wall was when Gorbachev started loosening everything up
esp after Chernobyl
sturdy summit
perestroika was already before the wall fell
safe grail
yeah that was like when you were 2 lol
sturdy summit
85-91 according to wikipedia. Term first used in 86
safe grail
wild wild wild man. not everyday you get to meet someone who lived thru it a bit
When i started at my current company, I was managing a woman from the Ukraine
right as the conflicts picked up
:/
sturdy summit
I have a lot of family connections to ukraine. It's really hard to see what's happening.
safe grail
we were also starting to wind down biz in Russia (i work at a bank)
safe grail
I have a lot of family connections to ukraine. It's really hard to see what's ha...
yeah. i get it.
unborn hamlet
u seen whats been happening in Russia
with the votes
people were dumping oil and or burning the whole voting rooms up
safe grail
ya
unborn hamlet
but Putin being Putin they are hushing it up
how 1 man can brainwash so many people its just sad
sturdy summit
damn, I hadn't heard about that. I kind of try to limit how much news I consume. I'll need to read up on that.
safe grail
we should prolly stop talking about this, granted this channel is usually safe
but i dont want us to get Rule 5d.
sturdy summit
good idea
safe grail
I already got yeeted over the weekend for 24h lmao
unborn hamlet
okay okay
safe grail
dont want a repeat.
sturdy summit
a little off topic is fine, but we should avoid a huge derail
unborn hamlet
anyway yea, i live far too close for comfort, they even wanted to mobilise just in case, glad the parliament shut that down real fast
glass latch
I see a lot of elemental nova builds are using frost claw to trigger the novas. Is there some reason besides "you can aim it" that I'm missing? Why not just cast the nova directly?
Just ripped my HC rogue, thinking of trying a ward mage for a change since I found an exsanguinous
Also wondering if the giga-nova via runic invocation is worth going for, or just stick to the frostguard spell
pseudo verge
You cast 2 spells in one cast = more dps and AoE basically
pale cedar
Also frost claw has the ability to do much higher single target damage. I tried a direct cast nova build before and killing bosses took forever. And one other thing I recently found out is that elemental nova has a chance to proc off each of the bonus frost claws in the bottom left nodes. Good for aoe clear
glass latch
Ah, cheers, I thought the claw was just a trigger with basically negligible damage but that makes more sense!
pale cedar
It usually is kind of negligible but the bottom right node that allows each projectile to hit the same target can add up. Especially if you’re a frostbite build like me
sturdy summit
volley of glass is amazing
full bluff
Glacier plays better than fireball on runemaster 🙂
full bluff
Glacier plays a bit like melee, need to get pretty close
Better than any invocation I have tried today
Most of them struggled on corruption 100..
errant plank
What does mean "+25-40% body armor shard drop rate" as blessing for example? What is "item shard"?
trail tendon
The Maxroll spellblade guide has you drop manastrike after 8 points in firebrand, but I see no way of gaining mana after that =\
stiff crown
What does mean "+25-40% body armor shard drop rate" as blessing for example? Wha...
It’s affix shards that can be applied to armors
Like physical resistance shards for crafting
errant plank
ok so it can be basically anything? I better go for skills or prefix shard?
(assulming i prefer prefixes and skills shards obvisouly)
stiff crown
Either works, but certain skills can be valuable
errant plank
its kinda "meh" for a blessing no ?
stiff crown
It’s a meh blessing
safe grail
The Maxroll spellblade guide has you drop manastrike after 8 points in firebrand...
it uses the mana reaver passive in the spellblade tree to gain mana
just keep mana strike
trail tendon
it uses the mana reaver passive in the spellblade tree to gain mana
Yea I have that 5/5 but seems really unreliable atm.
full bluff
heh forgot about throne of ambition for cold damage
glass latch
It usually is kind of negligible but the bottom right node that allows each proj...
This seems interesting, got a link to the build or something? I was thinking of going for spark charges for damage, but frostbite sounds neat as well
I'm curious how you disable (presumably?) lightning nova / transform it to cold, since so many of the important-seeming nova talents are on the lightning side. Some unique or such?
full bluff
Anyone have suggestions for uniques that could add something extra to glacier builds?
rare snow
should bases and implicits be priority vs affixes?
pale cedar
This seems interesting, got a link to the build or something? I was thinking of ...
Oh uh I never saved my builds since most of them end up not very good. I think there’s probably a few guides out there if you search up frostbite nova runemaster! There’s a few variations but it’s less mana intensive than lightning since you don’t have to spec into the bottom left nodes which add flat mana cost. Clear is a little bit worse but it’s way stronger at bossing
pale cedar
I'm curious how you disable (presumably?) lightning nova / transform it to cold,...
Usually you use the helmet that forces tri elenental nova. That way you can spec into the fire nova and get the armor penetration (which converts to frostbite with 7 points in the runemaster damage over time passive). It also gives you 3-6 elemental nova levels and a super useful passive which causes chilled shocked or ignited enemies to do 8-16% less damage
glass latch
Cheers, I'll have a look at those!
pale cedar
Sure good luck! If you can’t find anything concrete ping me in dms or something later. When I’m home from work I can port something for you to into the builder to look at!
sturdy summit
should bases and implicits be priority vs affixes?
priority? you shouldn't filter by item bases, imo
errant plank
priority? you shouldn't filter by item bases, imo
Uh? I look for rings and gloves with crit as implicit.... did i miss something ?
sturdy summit
Uh? I look for rings and gloves with crit as implicit.... did i miss something ?
exalted Items are worth collecting regardless of their implicits, to be used for making legendaries
you could highlight the ones with bases you want
errant plank
exalted Items are worth collecting regardless of their implicits, to be used for...
ha, ive other filters for exalted ye 😉
ok this is what im doing 😉
sturdy summit
👍
hollow arrow
time to see if i made monies
pale cedar
Rip he was only a newborn
dusky briar
Question: Does "Freeze Rate Multiplier" Increase your damage, or just increases the chance you can freeze?
hollow arrow
we bout to find out
lmao
ayyyyyyyyy no ban
wonder if i'll sell this 1lp unstable for 800m+ lmao
unborn hamlet
Question: Does "Freeze Rate Multiplier" Increase your damage, or just increases ...
Also increases the frostbite DMG by negligible number tho
It's about the quick gain of stacks
pale cedar
Question: Does "Freeze Rate Multiplier" Increase your damage, or just increases ...
Only increases your chance to freeze. There are some items and skill tree nodes which can make it impact damage though. In example snow drifts make your freeze % increase frostbite damage penetration. Similarly there’s a skill node in frost wall that gives spell damage based on your multiplier
pale cedar
It's about the quick gain of stacks
Stacks can max out at 999 so the snowdrift unique is actually one of the best ways to scale frostbite damage
unborn hamlet
Stacks can max out at 999 so the snowdrift unique is actually one of the best wa...
they dont
It's confirmed by the devs
999 is just the count cap
I have easily thousands of stacks
3-5k depending on boss
It even shows a + sign under the 999
youre playing the build you should know that
pale cedar
999 is just the count cap
Oh that’s good to know! Thanks sorry for the misinformation
unborn hamlet
All good, need to correct fellow frostbite enjoyers to spread the propaganda more
If the boss is stationary like the reign of dragons boss, it's easy 5k+ stacks
I melt the boss from 100 to 20% (after which the DMG reduction kicks in too fast) in like 10seconds
Generally the whole fight is 30-35sec for me
fallen vine
Can Twisted Heart drop from prophecies?
maiden jasper
I don't think boss drops are affected by prophecies. I farmed so much.
unborn hamlet
silk pewterBOT
unborn hamlet
@pale cedar can check my planner for reference if you want
unborn hamlet
Can Twisted Heart drop from prophecies?
No not yet anyway
Devs confirmed the perks are being reworked for next cycle
sturdy summit
Question: Does "Freeze Rate Multiplier" Increase your damage, or just increases ...
if you use Snowdrift boots, Freeze Rate Multiplier is your primary damage stat
unborn hamlet
For both factions
pale cedar
All good, need to correct fellow frostbite enjoyers to spread the propaganda mor...
I’ve been trying every mage variation I can to get something that matches up, but so far nothing comes even close 😭 though I can get my flame reave crits to 3.5 mil
unborn hamlet
Training dummy is not a good dps target and nobody can change my mind
Doesn't translate into real gameplay at all
pale cedar
Yeah I definitely agree on that
unborn hamlet
My dots caps at around 80-90k DMG on max stacks depending on boss resistances, meanwhile on training dummy they hit for like 3milion
pale cedar
Half of the rune master % multipliers don’t work in the dummy
unborn hamlet
At first I thought it's 300k
pale cedar
Yeah though 80-90k is still a lot to be fair hahah
unborn hamlet
But then I counted the numbers like 8 times over and it's in the millions
unborn hamlet
Yeah though 80-90k is still a lot to be fair hahah
I think it's fair, considering the otherwise very low DMG as a tradeoff
Meanwhile spark charge be flying around the map nuking everything with 50k crits
pale cedar
Yeah I usually try to screen shot it cause I can’t read the digits fast enough. All I know is if a build I’m trying barely does 10k a hit to a dummy it’s probably not gonna go well in the monos 😭
Spark charge is kind of fun but I think the bossing is way slower
unborn hamlet
I followed the BinaQc maxroll guide on frostbite as a baseline, then ventured off a bit with gear to what I thought fits better
pale cedar
Ya I’m CoF so I just try to build stuff when I get nice 3 or 4 lp items
unborn hamlet
I'm pretty much done for the cycle, the only real improvements left are getting more LP uniques and multiple exalted bis stats
I'm also CoF, tho I'm solo char stash so even if I drop 4LP for other classes I can't use em
pale cedar
Awh 😦
pale cedar
Normally that’s what I do in an ARPG but figured I’d try something different this time around.
unborn hamlet
Like, if I consider to what most people have, my build is pretty disgusting
Item wise
pale cedar
Kind of want to make a sorcerer and try an auto cast meteor build next
Poggers frostbite pro
unborn hamlet
I think I have the unique belt that gives +1 to meteor with 3LP
Rolled like garbage 😂
pale cedar
The auto cast meteor belt pog
safe grail
Kind of want to make a sorcerer and try an auto cast meteor build next
it eats a lot of mana
errant plank
which items would you replace first and why? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oNGjYPXA
silk pewterBOT
pale cedar
it eats a lot of mana
Most builds I want to try do 😦 I need flashy things to keep my ADHD in check
stiff crown
Any reason why Flame Ward (unspecced) isn't proccing Runeword: Inferno at 5 points? Am I missing something?
safe grail
Any reason why Flame Ward (unspecced) isn't proccing Runeword: Inferno at 5 poin...
wonder if it is meant for fire dmging abilities only?
stiff crown
I really wanted 30% multiplicative armor from Flame Ward activation /despair
I was also hoping that Enchant Weapon with the Elemental tag was able to proc all 3 elemental runewords
safe grail
awh it doesn't?
stiff crown
Nope, sadge
Frost Wall works though for proccing the cold one. So if I have +10 cold spell damage. That gets added to other spells even if they don't have the cold tag? Like Spark Charge?
full bluff
Frost Wall works though for proccing the cold one. So if I have +10 cold spell d...
yes all gets added
stiff crown
Thanks
sturdy summit
+10 cold spell damage applies to "spell" skills and applies the "+10 cold" effect. Cold is part of the effect, rather than part of the matching condition.
stiff crown
Also, found some weird interactions with Enchant Weapon and Runic Invocation (not that ya'll play EW). But EW has the elemental tag and it alternates F-L-C-repeat if casted solely by itself. But it is affected by your current runes. It always tries to fill in as the missing element, but if there's a tie, it defaults to F. Meaning, I can spam Mana Strike (L), then cast Frost Wall (C), then EW (F), then Frost Wall (C) again for CFC manual cast.
sturdy summit
wow, that's sneaky!
I have a desire to someday try out a melee runemaster, so I'll certainly keep that tucked away for later.
maybe in a future cycle
after they nerf frost claw into the ground
stiff crown
Yeah. it's more work, but I need drastic measures to push corruption now.
As a side note, if you have Immutable Order, EW always does F
sturdy summit
I think I've heard you say that before, but with this new context, it makes more sense
full bluff
Trying close combat runemaster now, can get pretty tanky with 5-7k armor, frost shield and flame ward
sturdy summit
porn bot is asking the important questions in Ask The Devs
full bluff
Preparing alternative builds, to frost claw
stiff crown
Trying close combat runemaster now, can get pretty tanky with 5-7k armor, frost ...
You can auto-pilot with numlocked Flame Ward and Enchant Weapon up til like 1000c
full bluff
Flame ward is great with lots of CDR
The single target damage of glacier at 250% cast speed is pretty good
stiff crown
Current build https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZDvERVA
silk pewterBOT
stiff crown
Going from auto cast Runic with Immutable and flame Rush to manual cast is strange
Pretty close to finish
hollow arrow
reddit full of delusional people so sounds bout right
errant plank
Meanwhile people are loving my build over on reddit
link?
errant plank
which items would you replace first and why? https://www.lastepochtools.com/plan...
@barren pawn I tried to follow your advices, what do you think?
errant plank
<@237570498651750401> I tried to follow your advices, what do you think?
Poison is just killing me atm 😄
wet patio
anyone recommend a timeline that they have come across diamond matrons frequently?
barren pawn
reddit full of delusional people so sounds bout right <:omegalul:570776988327870...
im going to kill you.
hollow arrow
lmaooo
barren pawn
need better gloves. faarailty is the only thing making those exalted and its just bad for disintegrate beacuse we cant hit. need a better strand, 150% is sadge ( 170% is honestly the lowest id go ) need a better peak, better rings still, and a wand
then its jsut slammnig for you
orchid leaf
@barren pawn Can you link your build?
errant plank
need better gloves. faarailty is the only thing making those exalted and its jus...
ok so i should look for all 4 affixes usefull, for now ive some good prefixes but suffixes are meh?
Like the wand, the prefixes are pretty ok right ?
barren pawn
Like the wand, the prefixes are pretty ok right ?
one of them is good, the other not so much
elemental over time would be better than flat emelental
soory*
spell dmg
elemental over time is better than spell dmg
you want spell crit over crit too
because it rolls higher
MUCH higher
like insanely hjigher
barren pawn
<@237570498651750401> Can you link your build?
silk pewterBOT
errant plank
one of them is good, the other not so much
ok got it 🙂
orchid leaf
Thanks!
oblique fossil
@unborn hamlet o I thought it capped my first hc mage that died to lag kept above 999 so easy. Good to know it doesn't cap.
hollow arrow
does elemental dmg over time work with freeze?
barren pawn
does elemental dmg over time work with freeze?
dunno, never tested
pale cedar
Does anyone know if Antipode of the Rune Slinger not get affected by the runic invocation tree?
im using fundamental criterio but i cant spot the damage boost with and without it
warped crow
Does anyone know if Antipode of the Rune Slinger not get affected by the runic i...
it gets effected by the runebolt tree instead pretty sure because the antipode itself isnt doing the dmg
its the runebolts coming out of it
hollow arrow
hmmmm i'll have to check prices for this ring then
royal gull
It took me until today to realise this game does not queue inputs
pale cedar
it gets effected by the runebolt tree instead pretty sure because the antipode i...
Gotcha, thanks T_T I was hoping it scaled with both. Guess thatd be too broken
warped crow
Gotcha, thanks T_T I was hoping it scaled with both. Guess thatd be too broken
and it is effected by parts of the tree that effect the antipode itself like you can double cast it
royal gull
I was playing my Void Knight and using Multistrike -> Void Cleave as a builder / spender and was wondering why my Void Cleave wouldn't come out the first time I pressed it half the time
warped crow
but like none of the dmg stuff carries over since the damage isnt the antipode
royal gull
You actually have to completely finish animations before doing a new input to execute the next input
Even fighting games don't make you do that
royal gull
No, not wrong channel, this is a generic gameplay mechanic 🙂
warped crow
ye
royal gull
but Mage is my home
warped crow
You actually have to completely finish animations before doing a new input to ex...
seems fine to me ... 1 action per 1 skill press
royal gull
It is still 1 action per key press if you queue inputs
It just executes the next action the moment you're not animation locked
It makes the game feel clunky as hell not doing this, I can't think of a single other action RPG that doesn't queue inputs
warped crow
not even poe does skill queueing
royal gull
This also explains some of the clunk I was experiencing when playing Runemaster
Building runes -> spending
signal iron
yea, if it was instant then could actually feel like invoker
royal gull
I'm 100% positive PoE will queue your inputs
royal gull
I will install it and test just to be sure because maybe you are misunderstanding what I'm saying
I don't remember it ever feeling this clunky
warped crow
because you can scale action speed in poe to finish skills and start the next one smoother
and you can do that here too
royal gull
So when you press a new input while animating your last skill in PoE, you're saying it doesn't queue that input and immediately execute it
warped crow
nope you press button it does attack ... new attack doesnt queue while the old one is in action
royal gull
I'll be done reinstalling in about 15 minutes, will report back
warped crow
k
safe grail
kinda based lmfao
royal gull
Ok PoE absolutely does queue your inputs
I can press Wave of Conviction or Flame Wall while casting the other and it will immediately cast the next as soon as the first animation finishes
I can piano the keys and it will cast both
Like less than .3 seconds between presses
It won't accept near-simultaneous inputs, but there is absolutely a buffer where it will queue your inputs
sturdy summit
It took me until today to realise this game does not queue inputs
yep, no input buffering is annoying
royal gull
How in the ever loving f did the devs leave this out? It explains SO MUCH about the game feeling "off" the entire time I've been playing it
This is such a basic thing, I know the game is lacking a lot of polish compared to its peers with insanely larger budgets, but this is just .. this is a fundamental flaw in the game
pale cedar
Anyone potentially know if the rune master legendary idols (3% chance per int for 33% increased elemental damage on 3 rune invocations) are multiplicative or additive?
sturdy summit
Anyone potentially know if the rune master legendary idols (3% chance per int fo...
increased damage
or do you mean the 3% chance?
that's probably also additive
pale cedar
*increased* damage
Both are helpful to know. Thank you :3
royal gull
Feel free to add your two cents if anyone else can't believe this game doesn't have input buffering
ashen turtle
Any builds out there that aren't meta that are viable in 500 corruption.... I've done frost claw / mana strike / lightning blast...... Just trying to keep from going back to frost claw
signal iron
wasn't aware there was a meta mana strike build
Kyo has a strong disintegrate build you can try out
silk pewterBOT
signal iron
can try the other frost claw build if you want to switch between them (either static charge or frostbite) but the gameplay is kinda gonna be the same so maybe not that.
What mage spec are you? Runemaster, sorc, spellblade?
signal iron
tears of fekkin joy
haha on point with the build link as always, think this might fit your bill, I think Kyos at like 800 corruption or something? @ashen turtle
ashen turtle
Runemaster
Been running enchant weapon spark charge with mana strike triggering frost claw triggering lightning blast
hollow arrow
if you have a high corruption on one, does it boost the other ones greatly?
hollow arrow
i just did a shade on spirits of fire and it gave me like 380 corruption
only had 4 bosses killed
neon lynx
barren pawn
oh?
hollow arrow
thanks dep
barren pawn
nvm then
barren pawn
o i thot you meant chars
hollow arrow
makes sense
ashen turtle
@signal iron runemaster.... Posted details above
soft elm
Is the orb build dead? Everyone playing frostclaw
soft elm
Yes
safe grail
it's effectively dead, yes.
it's a build that requires a lot of effort for very little gain, esp solo
time to slam some 2 LP exiles
@hollow arrow prayge
soft elm
I get bored really fast and novabuild are not fps friendly, wanted something different just 4 fun
hollow arrow
👀
gl hope you get em
i got some good cuckoo rolls so i might try to sell em
and two decent advent boots i might be able to sell as well
ashen turtle
I want to be mobile..... So disintegrate prolly not my cup of tea
hollow arrow
one rolled t7 lightning resist, perfect for your build rn ex lmao
soft elm
Today i slammed really good, these things usually doesn'thappen to me
hollow arrow
might farm some ring timeline then
see if i can get any good ones
and rip ex
least you can use those for now till t7
carmine mulch
any tips to prep for empowered monos?
safe grail
yeah just annoyed i sent 80m to the abyss is all
hollow arrow
ye rip
those cuckoos i got were a pretty penny
doubt they will sell but i'll let them sit lmao
filled up my stash tabs again with keys rip
royal gull
@barren pawn so are you a majority? You know what it is because you're a hardcore player
royal gull
The majority don't know what input buffers are
barren pawn
and no, not a hardcore player by any means
royal gull
You're not a "majority", hardcore players aren't a majority
You're a Nitro Booster, you're more hardcore than most
Also aren't people linking a build you published in here, like even just today?
I don't mean literal in-game hardcore, I mean you're an extremely serious player
royal gull
While I'm glad you don't mind the lack of input buffer and enjoy the game so much, it would only make the game better if it was in the game
Saying "I don't need it so nobody does" isn't helpful
barren pawn
My entire build is a meme to 90% of the playerbase and actual harcore players
safe grail
Saying "I don't need it so nobody does" isn't helpful
he didn't say that tho. he said that he knows what it was and it doesn't bother him
bother =/= need
barren pawn
I just think there are far more important things they need to focus on, then adding in input buffer to satisfy a small percentage of people that care
royal gull
In the context of someone asking for it
It effects literally everyone, not a small percentage of players
barren pawn
if it affects everyone, why isnt it broguht up often?
royal gull
Anyone who has ever tried to use a movement / traversal skill and felt like the game ate their input has been affected by this
Because .. and I already explained this .. most people don't understand what input buffering is as a concept and therefore can't explain what the problem is
They just know Path of Exile and Diablo feel more responsive, they don't understand the technology jargon behind why
Even when I explained it in Feedback the first person to respond thought I was talking about Macros
Or something, idk what they thought, but they didn't understand what an input buffer is in this context
barren pawn
people that dont know what it is would still say " why doesnt the game feel as responsive "
because theyd notice it feels less responsive than other games that include it
the fact that they dont, and it doesnt come up very often, kinda just shows people dont mind
royal gull
They might, and they might doubt themselves because when they aren't in combat and can press their buttons and click their mouse in a stress-free situation it doesn't seem like anything is wrong
They second guess themselves as a result and just ignore it
Control is the most important thing in any of these games, if your character control doesn't feel good you don't have a good game
barren pawn
character control feels fine tho?
royal gull
It carries Diablo 4 pretty hard honestly, combat control feels tight and responsive at all times, the horse is the only part that ever felt awkward and they've fixed that by letting you crash barriers
safe grail
idg how we went from input buffering to character control?
Input bufferings primary usage in these games is for skill queueing
not movement.
barren pawn
^
safe grail
if anything input buffering would make movement WORSE
cause you'd hit 'D' to go right and it'd lag
royal gull
I'm thinking of movement skills in particular
barren pawn
The lack of skill queing affects such a negligible difference to the majority of players anyways
royal gull
god awful
It is all in the implementation 😛 If you implement it poorly anything will be awful
barren pawn
WoW is a very good example of how input ques affect shid
safe grail
in fact, input buffering would feel even worse because servers aren't sharded
you can literally go to EU in the NA and it's all one giant layer
even just going like
coast to coast would feel absolutely horrid.
royal gull
I don't think I follow your issue, you press the button while your skill is animating, it just starts the next skill immediately once the previous animation ends, if anything it would help people with lag since the input window is more forgiving
barren pawn
let me also further add:
input que / buffer enables botting to a massive degree
safe grail
all input buffering is, is essentially artificial lag at its core right;
Enabling that while trying to go to a server w/ more ping just compounds the lag.
royal gull
Are you talking about macros? How would an input buffer make bots better? Bots don't need it because they can do everything precisely on a script
safe grail
input buffering allows bots to avoid detection better (it's not foolproof)
cause you can code in randomness
barren pawn
Are you talking about macros? How would an input buffer make bots better? Bots d...
Smaller scripts required. Buffering allows bots to avoid detection.
royal gull
I feel like if you were right and it is both unnecessary and just makes bots better, the competition would not feature it
safe grail
Runescape is a solid example of this actually.
tick rate in RS allows bot scripts/programs to code randomness into the task
barren pawn
^
royal gull
I dont know why you're talking about games that aren't Diablo or PoE since those games are better comparisons
safe grail
because you based your argument on the same
royal gull
I wasn't talking about WoW, I was talking about the direct competition to this game
I gave an example that other genres also feature it, but the real point is this is the only major diablo-like that doesn't have it
safe grail
But it's the same concept because D4 was built w/ WoW in mind originally.
royal gull
I don't understand what you're saying
barren pawn
I extremely dislike the fact that you just called this a " diablo like "
royal gull
Well I could say action RPG but that is a bit too broad of a brush
You could call WoW an action RPG
barren pawn
are we really gonig to boil arpgs down to " dia....
you did not jhust say that
you did NOT just say that
royal gull
This is directly a response to the lineage of games directly descended from Diablo
And don't even pretend this isn't exactly that
Diablo was inspired by roguelikes and ended up inventing an entirely new genre
Roguelikes were games inspired by Rogue so it makes sense this is a Diablolike
barren pawn
Except diablo isnt even the first game of its style?
safe grail
I'll leave the argument here with this statement to explain;
WoW is simply the easiest comparison as it has been around for so long and seen SO many iterations of implementation, net code, server architecture etc. Hell, even when they dropped classic wow, we saw things like modern input buffering/tick rates put into there.
barren pawn
diablo didnt start arpgs
royal gull
It doesn't have to be the first to be the most popular
Diablo is what created the cultural impact that mainstreamed its gameplay
barren pawn
im out. Between that and you saying WoW can be called an arpg, i have no further desire to continue this discussion.
royal gull
Probably for the best, I don't feel like I've gained anything from this
royal gull
Diablo was not comparable to Ultima 😛
tardy comet
What’s the point of this a to b to c
royal gull
I don't really know any more
tardy comet
It don’t really matter, what matters it’s dev team being responsive to their community in a timely manner
royal gull
I'm just not playing Last Epoch again until it has input buffering and now I'm a bit unmoored since playing LE was my plan for today
tardy comet
lol why not just play arpg with it instead
royal gull
It made me susceptible to random internet arguments
royal gull
lol why not just play arpg with it instead
Got it in one, but Diablo Season 4 is still a few weeks off, and PoE 2 isn't out yet, so yeah I'm going to have to go to something else for now like Death Must Die or Halls of Torment or Backback Battles or one of the 10 boomer shooters I haven't finished yet
tardy comet
Go to the PTR?
royal gull
I went to do that and it wanted another entire 90gb install 😦 I didn't have room
tardy comet
Delete LE. lol
royal gull
I could, but LE is only like 30gb or less? I forget, but install size is definitely an advantage LE has
I like having it installed so that when patches hit I see it and I can find out the moment it has input buffering 😄
barren pawn
it wont get it. mikes response shouldve made that obvious tbh
#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message for context
royal gull
Maybe not until Cycle 2, but I still want to hold out hope
safe grail
??????????????????
barren pawn
Why would it get it in cycle 2? Mikes response is pretty clear its not coming
safe grail
they are not going to provide dev resources
if there is anything that has been abundantly made clear about LE
is that it is an MVP (minimally viable product)
royal gull
They have an immensely larger budget now to make the game better than they did before, who knows what will happen in the next year
safe grail
functions like you're talking about are something that would come WAY later.
yeah nah
they are going to fix core functions
do balancing
barren pawn
^
royal gull
I consider this a core function 😛
barren pawn
well its not
safe grail
literally everything else before they even remotely touch that lol
barren pawn
imma go ahead and pull this card now, are you a dev tho?
safe grail
....for fightning games maybe
tardy comet
lol
safe grail
lel
barren pawn
LEs devs clearly dont care
tardy comet
That’s a protagonist mind set
royal gull
That is one guy
tardy comet
😭😭
barren pawn
....for fightning games maybe
yeah
royal gull
Fighting games and every other competitor this game has
safe grail
do you know what the required antithesis of input buffering would be?
royal gull
Such a strawman comment, get real
barren pawn
You are like.. the literal only person i have ever seen bring this up
safe grail
that has clearly not been brought up since this debate began?
royal gull
Yeah because most people don't know what it is, you have the perspective of a diehard fan so you've already accepted things the way they are
safe grail
you CANNOT have input buffering without action cancelling.
barren pawn
if it genuinely bothers you so much, and does have you nto wanting to play, then just go
safe grail
which is, a whole other set of coding and animations
royal gull
You literally do have it in Diablo and PoE, they don't cancel their animations
safe grail
yeah and it's completely stupid to not have that lol
ill stand on that hill til i die
royal gull
What???
tardy comet
You literally do have it in Diablo and PoE, they don't cancel their animations
I play PoE and are you sure?
safe grail
Diablo and POE having input buffering but you can't animation cancel?
tardy comet
Cause I don’t feel like it does
royal gull
I just installed PoE and double checked, it absolutely does
You can queue up 2 spells and it will cast the 2nd spell after the first with no delay
tardy comet
I feel like LE skills transition smoother than PoE
tardy comet
You can queue up 2 spells and it will cast the 2nd spell after the first with no...
But what’s the point of that
Sometime you have to input dash
royal gull
The point is, you don't have to wait for the previous skill to end, to input what you want your character to do next
tardy comet
???
safe grail
yeah i can wholeheartedly say that if LE introduced Input buffering over any other fix/improvement, i'd hard question the motives of the devs and what they are remotely thinking lol
barren pawn
The point is, you don't have to wait for the previous skill to end, to input wha...
As a disintegrate main, no i dont?
I can cast flameward, and teleport even if im currently channeling.
which is an active skill use
safe grail
like if they left the gold exploit unfixed and then went "hey guys, you can now queue your skills in 1.1!" i'd hard drop this game lmao
tardy comet
We can still do the numlock bot?
barren pawn
p;roperly balance the game so that their corr range for viable is actually the corr range for viable
and a myriad of more important things
royal gull
idk what kind of investment in time and resources you think it would take to do this, but it wouldn't be that hard
safe grail
wait isnt the whole argument predicated on the fact that there are APM intensive builds to begin with?
when ARPG communities do literally the opposite?
that's why plasma orb isnt popular lol
and why skill nodes like immutable order is popular
people in ARPGs want to streamline what they press and when they press it, they dont want to think about action queueing
tardy comet
I thought arpg 1-2 button games lol
tardy comet
That’s why the lich detonate zombies seemed so complex
royal gull
I'm getting some real headass arguments now so I'm just gonna check out
tardy comet
I'm getting some real headass arguments now so I'm just gonna check out
EvenPoE top DD build right now is Detonate dead lol
tardy comet
Shi is one press
royal gull
i actually enjoyed this debate.
Fine then. Even if you want to hit as few buttons as possible, don't you want your Teleport or whatever to come out the moment you possibly can?
Channels are a special case that they can be interrupted by other skills, so no, they don't need a buffer since you don't usually use them in short animations like say a Rune Master would trying to build 3 different elements to Invoke
I am bothered by the "doesn't everyone want a 1 button build anyway" type comments, that is just trolling
Tape down your 1 button I guess if that is your idea of fun
safe grail
It's not trolling though. It's legitimate feedback that I have heard in content on youtube while researching builds/mechanics for this game
tardy comet
Fine then. Even if you want to hit as few buttons as possible, don't you want yo...
Th traversal skil pretty responsive
Idk why you feel different
royal gull
It is not any more or less responsive than any other skill
Because no skills in this buffer
tardy comet
It’s more responsive than PoE
safe grail
and i will be one of the probaby few folks to say it; I do not have faith that EHG could implement this without MASSIVELY breaking everything else
royal gull
It certainly is not and you're insane for thinking so
tardy comet
Man
barren pawn
I am bothered by the "doesn't everyone want a 1 button build anyway" type commen...
Its legit actual feedback not trolling....
royal gull
This is like... a few lines of code to implement, then a few more to decide how the netcode handles it, this is a baked-in feature of most code packages used in stock engines
I'm not a game dev myself no, but I do have a degree in computer science 😛
barren pawn
and i will be one of the probaby few folks to say it; I do not have faith that E...
Gonna agree with this too considering the track record on display here
tardy comet
I'm not a game dev myself no, but I do have a degree in computer science 😛
I don’t trust degree. Only work experience
royal gull
Well if everyone just wants one button builds that they hold down until the map is clear then I guess this isn't the game for me
I don't know if you've seen PoE 2 but they're explicitly showing off how all of their skills synergize and flow into each other in super interesting ways that look extremely fun to use
royal gull
I don’t trust degree. Only work experience
Well I've been a software engineer on a lot of different things, just never games 😛
I've modded games, not developed, I understand how code works 😛
barren pawn
Then you should know how much of a royal pita it is to change code for a large scale program, and not have it screw over something else.
royal gull
I mean I've started some small projects, but nothing I would consider worth qualifying me as a "game dev" specifically
safe grail
As a PM even I know how obnoxious it is to do new implementation lmao
royal gull
Crossbow mercenary dude in PoE 2 looks incredibly sick, watch that preview if you haven't already because it really shows what is possible in this genre
safe grail
and i dont even code.
barren pawn
and now weve moved onto PoE2
royal gull
Yeah, the direct competition to this game
A game that has the thing I'm talking about and is better for it
royal gull
PoE 1 also has it, 2 is just better in every way and one way it is better is by trying to move away from 1 button builds 🙂
safe grail
yeah games moving away from minimal button builds is actually detrimental to accessibility lol
royal gull
but maybe you're right and this game should focus on people who can't handle the idea of a "builder / spender" and Runemaster was a mistake
royal gull
This game is sold as the middle ground between PoE and D4, some accessibility is lost when you aim for any degree of complexity
safe grail
i'm going to sleep. i have to go the office tomorrow (ew)
royal gull
Sorry to hear that Ex
Sucks for LE to be the middle ground between 2 bigger games and control worse than either 😛
royal gull
Input buffering is a purely positive thing if done like the competition has
It would not make the game worse for anyone, and it would feel better for most
barren pawn
If it felt that much worse than you claim it does, why isnt " this game controls so poorly " a much more brought up topic?
royal gull
PoE did it so well half the people arguing with me don't even realise it has it
barren pawn
One. ONE dude said poe doesnt have it
royal gull
They're the second
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Scroll up, I had to install PoE just to prove it does for the last person
barren pawn
No, no i dont think i will.
royal gull
I mean fair enough
barren pawn
Im done with the discussion
royal gull
I thought you were minutes ago 😮
barren pawn
You are focusing on the completely wqrong thing for this game
royal gull
I'm focusing on the most important thing in a real time action game, control of your character
barren pawn
Characters. Control. Just. Fine.
If they didnt youd have ALOT of people saying they dont
royal gull
If you're only into one button builds then yeah it isn't such a big deal, I agree with that, and I agree you're probably right that a lot of people want 1 button builds because they're lazy and don't get bored by them as easily as I do, but it is also possible that some people want 1 button builds because they tried a builder / spender and it didn't feel good
They couldn't explain why, they tried a 1 button build instead, that felt better, so they stopped thinking about it
With that, I will stop thinking about LE. Godspeed you beautiful 1 button bstards
pseudo verge
Isnt poe 1 button builds also?
I dont think a skill queue would feel any different here, you always just want X amount of castspeed or AS to make some builds feel good
robust gorge
im late on this, but top ssf build is ignite dd, which is two buttons
top sc build is coc dd, which is one button lol
stiff crown
I like it when I use Flame Rush and let go to stop at a certain point, but the game decides I need to go twice as far and I end up dying because of it. Skill issue.
robust gorge
i wish i knew exactly why it happened
stiff crown
i wish i knew exactly why it happened
https://imgur.com/a/j8ARY0x Rest in peace, my gazes
whole moat
Is the main benefit going frostbite frost claw over ignite frost claw the cc from freeze?
robust gorge
https://imgur.com/a/j8ARY0x Rest in peace, my gazes
lmao
robust gorge
Is the main benefit going frostbite frost claw over ignite frost claw the cc fro...
armor shred can scale frostbite
stiff crown
https://imgur.com/a/NjcsC0x This game's trolling me tonight, LOL @robust gorge
sturdy summit
We can still do the numlock bot?
numlock trick is not considered an exploit
nocturne charm
This game is sold as the middle ground between PoE and D4, some accessibility is...
this game is sold as PoE 2 waiting room really. D4 is nowhere near LE or PoE level.
steel ridge
imagine carring what other people play. just mistifies me, guess I'm a boomer now. (turning 35 this year).
tardy comet
imagine carring what other people play. just mistifies me, guess I'm a boomer no...
Well….yeah? More so to encourage dev team to keep developing
nocturne charm
it's incredible really how such a small team can deliver what LE has. Enough OT from me at least.
mint pine