🔱┃sentinel

[turbid dome]

thats an interesting idea, like the auto chug mana potion thing in terraria

[astral crater]

Necrotic, I have bad necrotic and poison res on my primalist and I die WAY more to necrotic

[warped night]

I'm not familiar with Terraria. What kind of debuff does that have?

[forest kelp]

Recently, I’ve seen many 0 mana cost builds performing very quickly and tanky at 2000+ corruption 🤨

[turbid dome]

basically when you run out of mana, the trinket/item causes you to consume a mana potion from your inventory, but chugging a mana potion (directly or through the trinket/item) grants you mana potion sickness, where if you keep chugging them you end up doing 50% less damage until you don't drink one for a bit

so mr burst damage class can fight in long boss fights but your not doing giga burst damage the whole time

it starts at like 25% less damager that decays durings its duration, more potions makes the less damage % larger and adds time to its duration

[warped night]

yeah I think something similar would be a really great way to balance void well without ruining the unique playstyles it enables

[turbid dome]

plus then erasing strike doesnt need to be rebalanced around infinitely spamming it and not infinite spam es doesnt get murdered in the process

[warped night]

exactly

might be a little late in the development cycle to get that suggestion implemented though lol

and who knows if they're even touching void well next patch

[turbid dome]

add onto the void well node

• each time you trigger this you deal 15% less damage for the next 6 seconds, this effect stacks up to 3 times (or whatever numbers are balanced for it)

[dull escarp]

thanks my brother

[forest kelp]

Are you trying to kill it?😂

[turbid dome]

please set thy gaze upon the load bearing "or whatever numbers are balanced for it"

<- is not a quality game dev

[astral crater]

Touch void knight but leave judgement alone, I love face tanking literally everything

My judgement build that I outfitted just today already can face tank basically every boss at 1k corruption and regular Abby

Still gotta get exalts for the sword and belt, as well as a decent leonine

[warped night]

paladin doesn't have access to void well

[astral crater]

I do know that, I’m just saying take it easy with sentinel nerfs

[turbid dome]

only thing I'd change on judgment is the sheer defense you get

[forest kelp]

You’re like a friend I know from LE; he’s been playing Judge Pally for over a year now

[astral crater]

Exactly, gotta increase the defense

Divine protection against evil

[astral crater]

Your friend knows peak

Still waiting for loot filter to make noise tho, annoying to have to run back and check the entire map

As it doesn’t show up on the minimap of something was filtered

[turbid dome]

[astral crater]

Too much equipment needed to face tank uber, make it so that a lvl 20 judgement pally can go afk for an hour come back and uber Abby would still be trying to do a single point of damage

[turbid dome]

ah yes the opposite of the blue gear only falconeer killing uber abby in like 3 minutes

[astral crater]

Nah but fr judgement is the only thing that makes uber somewhat enjoyable for me, the free cleanses on the eruption mode

[astral crater]

Those falconeers

[turbid dome]

but like what about the belt affix

[astral crater]

Too scared to pick up a sword so they send their hawk

[turbid dome]

real

[astral crater]

Eh gotta use a potion for that, I want multiple cleanses a second cause I do NOT plan on moving from the puddles or the beams unless uber runs away

Also I already have cleanse as one of the initial stats on the belt, still need to find an exalt for it tho

Like for regular abby didn’t even move out of the void until Abby went too far for me to do dmg

Even then I decided to hang around in the void just cause a paladin isn’t backing down when faced with the void

Too bad I still don’t have the gear to do that to uber tho

Might need a multiple lp ekkidradil since no red rings

[warped night]

I can mostly do that with my rive VK. I need to dodge the big bonks, but I can sit in all the DoTs so long as I can hit either abby or a harbinger

[astral crater]

I do not desire to dodge anything

[warped night]

that's fair

[dull escarp]

hey guys...is this build better like this or using healing hands and symbols of hope like i use? do i really need healing hands and symbols or just go all void? here is my build https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/sparkqueen1/character/voidlife

[strange snow]

you get the lines going across the ground with champions and the nemesis has poison version as well

[strange snow]

I think that was before the nerf

[chilly peak]

So stuff that you can either cleanse, or dodge or go out of it 🙂

And it is all dots iirc

[strange snow]

If you have a build that can actually see it lol

[turbid dome]

probably

[waxen nymph]

Thx guys for all your feedback on Void Well, very interesting read

Tomorrow we will discuss why the new 2h +'shield node should be FG passive

[warped night]

speaking of FG passive -- stalwart is super underwhelming. wish it gave us stacking damage taken as physical

[waxen nymph]

I wish there were more passives that interact with it

[hallow herald]

Does the fire damage reduction passive in forgeguard, forgot name, work with orians eye amulet,, to reduce fire and void damage even more

[warped night]

Yes

[astral crater]

Orian’s eye is the last piece of gear I’m missing for my judgement build, other than exalts for lp

[mental flare]

someone here played multistrike without smite? have some questions

[astral crater]

Used it for a bit with judgement instead of vengeance

[mental flare]

is necessary to max this in order to clear mobs with it?

comfortably*

[alpine canopy]

No, but it does help against packs that are spread out

there are so many points you can dump into damage that I'd prioritize over that though personally, but it's all a feel thing so I'd recommend trying both and just see which you like better

[mental flare]

yeah, that was my doubt, ty

i'm just crafting something for next month league

[modern wadi]

Heya folks. Anyone ever have issues on judgement with holding down the keys but nothing happening? I haven't paid enough attention to figure out exactly what causes this. Maybe character being bumped like the beetle charge?

At first I thought it was failing keyboard switches but I think I've eliminated that possibility

[mental flare]

lol i forgot about this

[warped night]

one healthy boi

[waxen nymph]

@turbid dome

[turbid dome]

damn boi he thicc

still not to the silly extent thats possible but still thicc af

[astral crater]

Well uhh do you have enough mana? Stupid question but gotta be sure

[turbid dome]

its never stupid to do a sanity check

[astral crater]

Mine is gone, played so much cyberpunk I tried to use the sandevistan irl

[turbid dome]

[astral crater]

Bee free

Orobyss got me

[modern wadi]

i should at least be using vengeance in that case

I'll pay close attention to the exact circumstances next time but I'm pretty sure last time it happened I looked at the skill bar and saw the skills being depressed but nothing being used

it's a rare thing, only happened a few times on my way to 99

[astral crater]

I just hold down vengeance and judgement at the same time, get mana and ward and as soon as I get enough mana judgement gets used

[modern wadi]

yup same, it just breaks in rare circumstances and my paladin stands there doing nothing

[astral crater]

Not sure if that’s how it works, haven’t played judgement in a while, but is your healing hands mana cost 0?

[modern wadi]

yes

the chain of skills works as intended 99.99% of the time

[astral crater]

Might be server ping idk

Some things broke for me even worse, like that one echo where you fight 10 harbingers in succession spawned 2 at once from the final wave

Estrike aoe saved my ass but I’m not getting off judgement any time soon

[modern wadi]

You can see the keys are depressed but nothing is happening

If I recall correctly this can happen when you try to use your skills at an unpathable location? In the above screenshot I could move around anywhere including right over my character so the skills were fully broken, but maybe the initial bug is related to pathing

I guess I should put in a bug report

[warped night]

the skill queue gets all messed up if you're spamming another skill. I would love to be able to define my own skill priority

it's especially bad if you're holding one skill and then try to hold or press another

[strange snow]

good warpath starter or no?

[turbid dome]

not bad at all, tho you def want to grind for one with flat melee damage

[boreal crow]

whats the armor cap

i have that amount rn

but no idea is it too much or low

[silk wasp]

Armor caps at 85% but you need something ridiculous like 55k armor to hit it. It stops being worth investing in at like 70%

[strange snow]

Farmed about 10 of them to get something decent. Gonna take a while to get something good heh

[turbid dome]

thats how it bee

[alpine canopy]

Technically, the actual cap is impossible to hit, even if it displays at 85% it's really a bit less

[chilly peak]

I should be around 500 now (spoiler, still not using a Needle)

It is a really rare chase item, and to hit both stats you want is extreme rare

[forest kelp]

x2 hope lucky

[chilly peak]

Uh I could use it, as it is, aswell. Nice one, also nice rolls!

[autumn prairie]

to a 1lp abyssal maw what should I add for warpath vk?

flat void? % void? melee %? crit?

[waxen nymph]

Apathy Maw?

Flat Crit imo

[autumn prairie]

yes sorry

[waxen nymph]

Maybe wait for @chilly peak 's answer

[autumn prairie]

flat crit? is there flat crit?

[waxen nymph]

• X% Melee Crit Chance

Is avaible on all melee weapons

[autumn prairie]

like this ?

[waxen nymph]

Yup

Do you have a t7?

[autumn prairie]

nu

[chilly peak]

Yes!

If you have a sword, you get easily enough crit from cyclone of war node, but that is not as usefull if you use an Axe, and you badly need some crit to make up the difference to a sword. That is why Apathys is not the BIS

If you have a 2LP Maw, flat Melee void should be the second best affix here. That shreds 1k+ easily.

Usually you also want to have a high IAS with Warpath, as it scales absolutely great, but sadly no room on that for the Axe

[autumn prairie]

so the maw with 13% crit is better than my current needle?

[chilly peak]

You can't slam that above sword on an axe. I would usually strife for a maxroll in this case, even better a T7.

But yes, a Maw with critslam should already outperform above needle by a mile

Aim for max or almost max crit with this build, you can test beforehand with the exalted, how much flat crit is needed in your setup to bring you to 100%

I use this Maw, and have a Needle quite close to yours. My axe is alone over the double the tooltip (only indicator, it lies).

I also tried a Maw with just a crit slam, it has over 50% more then this needle with T7 increased void

Just very quick checking, and it may vary on other equip you wear, but it clearly shows the direction

Still running Follys - I guess I get my needle eventually in the last 1-2 weeks before reset 😄

[autumn prairie]

also I just figured out I wasted aton of stability by spamming glyphs without emptying the stability in between rip

😭

[forest kelp]

I have lived long enough to see it

[autumn prairie]

what if I gambled the 1lp, and if I get 0 lp I tried using an egg on it again?

[waxen nymph]

I would slam that one lp, and when you have a good weapon you can start gambling

Never bet what you can't afford to loose

Make yourself a great weapon first

[autumn prairie]

I mean I'd lose 1lp, I can always make it back

[chilly peak]

You can also get an affix and it is a brick for now. I'd go with Vlads advice here

[waxen nymph]

Slamming you Apathy will make you considerably stronger, and faster and more efficient

[autumn prairie]

crit strike is not nearly max, and this is with the sword with the crit on it

I could max void corruption and mortal cleave taking points off Time legion

should I just link my build for you to look at?

[chilly peak]

Getting points from Time Legion is not an option 🙂

Your echoes do a lot dmg and increase your own damage, IAS is one of your best scaling stats - so you want to max out Time Legion by any means

[waxen nymph]

That would be very helpful

[autumn prairie]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o3g80kao

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 95

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (73) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 3,160, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 273.88, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 18%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 24 Str / 11 Dex / 7 Int / 14 Att / 63 Vit
▸ Resistances: 187% / 156% / 186% / 92% / 75% / 112% / 160%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 50%, Threshold: 1,117
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (96)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 43% (2,443)

Used skills:

Warpath / Anomaly / Symbols of Hope / Abyssal Echoes / Devouring Orb

[waxen nymph]

No Warrior Fury ?

??

For a Void build thats a weird choice

And also you want a Shattered Chain

Same here

Nothing better ?

T6 ele res when you have 170+ Res is wasted

[chilly peak]

The good news, here we have room for the needed crit

[waxen nymph]

Yup

I would consider loosing 1 symbol to get extra Crit Chance too

You would be loosing 6 Flat Dmg and 15% Inc Dmg for 40% Inc Crit Chance

[chilly peak]

Apart from what Vlad mentioned, I see you are not using the Ornate Class idols yet, huge damage potential!

Absolutely check your blessings, there are some weird choices, like Fire res, tho you have that overcapped as hell already.

[chilly peak]

I'd stick with 5 here for now, cause eventually he will probably get some +levels to have some crit anyway

But an option for sure

[waxen nymph]

Thoughts on Void Shred Blessing ? I feel like Dorb + Anomaly is enough

[chilly peak]

Absolutely agree, that is why I mentioned blessings. I would change:

• Void shred to Crit chance for now, eventually crit multi here
• probably set Reign of Dragons to allresi for a better overview and calculation, cause that is what you most probably want on this build in the end
• swap Age of Winter to increased Armor
• swap Spritis of Fire to Armor while Channeling - a classic

[waxen nymph]

Reign of Dragon could be Melee Leech too

If you have enough res elsewhere

[chilly peak]

Yes but, the build has excellent leech sources, he has the passive with 5% and the leech rate, and a nice leech-rolled siphon. With the axe he has so much leechrate, that he can consider leech as "finished" for now imo.
Raw HP would be much more helpful on that end in my opinion

[waxen nymph]

There is no raw hp in RoD

Its in Black Sun

[chilly peak]

Yeah my thought was more that more leech would probably not change much. But ofc, more leech can never hurt if you don't need anything else

Btw what's your aspirational planer, if you have one, @autumn prairie ? Maxroll I assume?

[autumn prairie]

I started with that and another build I got from the lastepoch tools, the second one wasnt using warrior fury and my mana also isn't high up enough to sustain it, and so far damage hasnt really been an issue
the helmet is there to cap my crit resistance and the res still help because of Reckless Spin, so even tho rn I am overcapped without the helm I would not be capped

the belt and other ring are simply the best I have rn, drops havent been very nice to me

same as for blessings, now I am focusing on increasing corruption in one timeline so that I can increase my corruption on all of them eventually, and I just got the armor blessing at 54%!

if you check my erased sentinel isnt good either

[waxen nymph]

Reckless Spin is -30%

You are plenty fine

Also Capped Res arent as mandatory as in PoE

You can afford 50-60% until you start climbing really high

[chilly peak]

Yeah the Leonine in general is a very solid choice.

What I would really recommend it to try to get your hands on a helm with "channeling cost". It is both, mandatory to run Warrior's Fury (later on when you have enough mana, it should work well once you have 500+ mana) and you can de-spec Reckless Spin.

[autumn prairie]

idk why it shows those res it might not be picking up changes I made recently, these are the res while spinning and yes that fire overcapping is horrible but not much I can do about it rn

[waxen nymph]

Ah probably

Honestly getting armor while channeling or at least armor blessing will make you much tankier overall, instead of that overcapped fire res

[chilly peak]

This is btw a case where I can really recommend the maxroll build, it is most solid and can give you some nice inspiration if you need some

[autumn prairie]

ya I was following that in the beginning and it gave me some direction

is there an unique ring besides the syphon that you would suggest using that isn't a 3lp mandatory or a boss item?

[waxen nymph]

Orian Sun Seal, Crab Ring

I am sure Volin has more

[autumn prairie]

I actually was using orian for a short while but ppl toldme its not good anymore if not 3lp because it was nerfed and I was like ok if u say so 🤷🏻‍♂️

[chilly peak]

I like Flames of Midnight or Carcinization of Momentum very much. Swiftness is a really nice stat for Warpath.

Flames is easy to get with LP and has some nice pen, also you can still use it as movement option if you practice it a bit.

Momentum gives well rolled some really nice raw stats and is a global drop.

I'm not a fan of Orians here anymore and last time we had the topic, I was not alone iirc

[autumn prairie]

I have a 2lp orian and 2 lp CoM

[chilly peak]

But I see it can be an Option (Orian)

[autumn prairie]

the orian not +2 :sadge:

[waxen nymph]

I mean maybe but still better than your Erased Ring rn 😄

[chilly peak]

You're CoF?

[autumn prairie]

yes

[chilly peak]

Not Rank12 yet I assume

[waxen nymph]

That 2lp crab ring is really nice before getting Flame of Midnight

[chilly peak]

Yeah, the Crab Ring is really hot, slam it with T7 Crit chance and something usefull and that will carry you for a long time. The impact will be HUGE with all your base crit

[autumn prairie]

lemme see if I can find some good exalted rings

[chilly peak]

They will come sooner or later

[autumn prairie]

is there a way I can filter in stash by tiers, like "show me only t6+ crit chance"

[chilly peak]

<- not good with this regex stuff

I'm well organized instead

[waxen nymph]

No

[autumn prairie]

what is this "organization" you speak of, my adhd does not understand

[autumn prairie]

at least a way to only show rings?

[waxen nymph]

But if you know the value you can search for like "80% Increased Crit" then go up or down

You should have your rings in a dedicated stash tabs 😄

With the affinity system is really easy to do

[autumn prairie]

I have an "accessories" tab ihih

[chilly peak]

I see the same orga that my teammate has

[autumn prairie]

but "80% increased crit "yielded no results

[waxen nymph]

try every value between 60-75

Thats t6 rolls

This was just an exemple

[chilly peak]

The question still kills me

😄

[waxen nymph]

Also if you have multiple tabs of accessories

[autumn prairie]

im just gonna manually inspect every "increased crit" looking ring

[waxen nymph]

Make sure to make a global search

Not a tab search

[autumn prairie]

uuuh isn't there just one search tab?

[waxen nymph]

Send a screenshot of your game with stash open please

[chilly peak]

I'm the guy who could narrow it down to one stash, that I reach with 2 clicks, if I know about what ring properties we speak (rarity, single or double exalt) 😄

[waxen nymph]

Whole screen please

[chilly peak]

I expected worse! 🥹

[waxen nymph]

Click this

[autumn prairie]

path of exile taught me u can't just live with 10 quad dump tabs

[waxen nymph]

And send another one

[autumn prairie]

oooh this is a stash search?

I've never seen this lmao

[waxen nymph]

Yuup

This search in all your tabs at once

[waxen nymph]

Good lord
Uniques and Exalted in the same tabs

https://tenor.com/view/dance-moms-stressed-nervous-scared-nervous-wreck-gif-4714295353730086471

[chilly peak]

https://tenor.com/view/monk-adrian-monk-eye-roll-headache-irritated-gif-23263720

[waxen nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/panicking-gif-22262539

[autumn prairie]

hold on

wait a minute

hidden in a dump tab

I mean its low but its the best I got apparently

I might take more exalted ring prophecies

should I craft a relevant stat I want before going to try slamming it, so I can hope of slamming two good stats?

also same thing with the belt, is there a good unique belt that doesnt need to be 3lp and isnt a boss drop?

and my current belt gives me 3k dps btw!

[waxen nymph]

Shattered Chain is kinda the best by far

[autumn prairie]

dont got one

[waxen nymph]

Nah thats a lie from the tooltip

You convert to Void so Inc Phys has no effect

[waxen nymph]

Shade of Orobyss Drop only

[autumn prairie]

maybe this?

[waxen nymph]

Its nice but its not 20% MoreDmg

[autumn prairie]

I know but I dont have much else rn

[waxen nymph]

Rn an exalted with either hp or Inc Void would be better

[autumn prairie]

I have t6/t7 necro poison and phys damage but no void lul

and this

idk if flat or % is better

[chilly peak]

Almost sure increased should be better in this case

[autumn prairie]

actually got an even better flat

[chilly peak]

Test it, see what gives you what and decide on that.

Btw you can farm the unique belt very good in "Confluence of Oblivion" woven echo, same for the Axe btw

[autumn prairie]

which echo slot is it? I dont think I even own one

and I also have the Abyssal Trap node in the weaver tree

% seems to be better and I can even craft void damage on it

[chilly peak]

T3, right side, the 2nd or 3rd.

I'm just on a SSF char that does not have it either yet.
You can buy that one also at Haven of Silk, but quite costly with 3,5k. But for VK it may be worth to shop at least a few

[autumn prairie]

it must be the 3rd coz the 2nd is Unclaimed trove

and im pretty sure I cant but it(yet)

anyway, should I craft void damage on the %hp belt? also, should I craft something else on the t6 crit ring before slamming it on the crab ring?

coz if not I might have a 1lp crab ring if I just go for the crit

[chilly peak]

Always try to optimize for a multi LP slam imo

[autumn prairie]

it might just be health, I'll avoid crafting resists

cant even craft mana or vitality smh my head

at least mana regene in the prefix slot is a somewhat relevant stat for my build

[autumn prairie]

I almost had a heart attack I thought I sold my chestpiece lol

hell yeah it got the health

oh I almost forgot to craft the maw

wait the sword and the axe dont have the same base type.... T_T

I have some axes with t7 void damage, would that be much worse than crit? @chilly peak

[chilly peak]

Increased Void dmg would be insane inferior.
Melee void is very valuable, but afaik melee crit chance is much better, and I can easily understand that, as it helps a ton to reach 100% melee crit in the end

[autumn prairie]

would "increase crit chance" be the same?

is it "melee crit chance" like base crit?

[chilly peak]

It is base crit

[chilly peak]

This may look good, but it is not

You are looking for flat, in both cases. And I'm quite sure the melee crit slam is much more important

[autumn prairie]

I dont think I have a single two handed axe with melee crit

[chilly peak]

And all that flat crit, works perfectly together with your new ring

[chilly peak]

You'll find sooner or later!

[autumn prairie]

in the meantime do I keep using my needle?

I also have the needle on the left, I thought the t7 void damage is better tho, idk

[warped night]

neither of those needles are particularly amazing tbh

[chilly peak]

Just test which works best for you

I mean, what shall he do on a quite "young" char. He can just use what he finds

[autumn prairie]

actually the base maw as it is seems to be better than my needle

[warped night]

depends how young, t6+ flat melee crit apathy's maw is probably better than those, which shouldn't be all that difficult to get

[autumn prairie]

well I dont have it yet, we shall see

[warped night]

when you go to fight orobyss have the 2h axe drop rate blessing from blood, frost, death

should help with drops

[chilly peak]

Even the better, I mean, you see a steady improvement and can easily see how much room there is

[chilly peak]

Why?

It should not affect unique drops?

[warped night]

I was under the impression that it had an impact, but I don't know for certain

[eternal dawn]

So how much tank is needed for uber abberoth? I remember going in with a 2h ignite paladin and getting chunked just by his flail auto attack

[warped night]

some attacks, like that one, you should really just dodge

[eternal dawn]

I figured that would be the answer since a lot of the builds that killed it seemed to either be dot builds or have damage tied into their mobility

[warped night]

the amount of tankiness that your build needs will be pretty highly dependant on the build itself

uberroth has a lot of DoT damage, so you either need a lot of DoT mitigation (which is very rare still atm), and/or a lot of sustain

there's also quite a few big bonks. you can learn the cues, and dodge most of the big ones, but you also want to be able to eat enough damage that you don't have to spend all of your time running around

[eternal dawn]

yeah of course, I do feel the build i was playing at the time just wouldn't cut it

I wasn't scaling strength so my armour sat at 65%, had about 3.6k hp and it was relying on blocking with jaspers searing pride lol

Wasn't worth it because searing blades doesn't proc off healing hands for whatever reason

[warped night]

it's on melee skill use + hit, so needs to be a directly used skill that also hits, so HH's secondary proc wouldn't do it

plus I think HH's melee skill was lacking the melee tag at some point

but that may have been pre-uberroth

[eternal dawn]

I wish they worded it like "directly use a melee attack" to make it more clear

at least jaspers isn't a rare drop anyway

maybe it's overkill but i'll probably go for whatever build i can strength stack with and use bastion of honour or try get enough block on countenance of majasa to make it feel good next time lol

depending on what they do to acolyte

[warped night]

I found that heavy sustain + enough health + mobility was overall more useful for me than going for pure tankiness

the hits are generally easy to avoid, but it's the persistent DoTs that make it difficult to consistently do damage

[eternal dawn]

that's the thing, my health bounced like crazy with the leech i had on that build when doing the 10 harbinger fight but i was getting 1 shot by an auto attack from uber abberoth

it was his normal swings not the one that results in a dot on the ground

[warped night]

yeah if you're getting 1 shot by his regular attack then that's a good signal that you do actually need more tankiness

[eternal dawn]

definitely, good to know it's a build issue

won't stop the skill issue of dying 5 seconds later but that i can improve on at least 😄

[warped night]

😅

with leech builds it helps to have some way of conssitently reducing your own hp to maintain your leech when your health is "full"

[eternal dawn]

oh yeah the health lost overleech tech

[warped night]

like ravaging aura in void cleave, or experimental health to ward on gloves

[eternal dawn]

i had that on a pair of wing guards it's nuts

speaking of which, do you know if anyone has killed it with forged weapons?

[warped night]

not sure tbh

I think if the forged weapons are able to stay alive then it's possible, but I'm not sure about that

[eternal dawn]

yeah i figured

thanks for your help btw

[warped night]

you're welcome!

[autumn prairie]

Im gonna be honest the base maw doesn't feel that much better than my needle

damage wise

but I guess the leech is also good

[autumn prairie]

@chilly peak just 4 u

[modern wadi]

Could be a lot more laconic if you just use the icon and color with no text

just an alternate style

[chilly peak]

@waxen nymph Look, they're growing up so fast 🥹

[waxen nymph]

👌

[turbid dome]

you gotta give the stashes names tho

like frank

[waxen nymph]

" " is a perfectly valid name

[turbid dome]

[waxen nymph]

There is " " and " " and also " "

[autumn prairie]

what about naming them "O.o" and ">.<" and " _(é_é)_/ "

discord formatting didnt like the last one

[waxen nymph]

I shall name the next one
UwU

[turbid dome]

(o.o)/ \(o.o)

need the hive five name @waxen nymph

[waxen nymph]

Its effing great !!

[turbid dome]

solid stash name

[autumn prairie]

I'm trying to setup the tab priority so I can recycle some dump tabs but its not working

this is for unique rings, right? but it doesnt seem to work? maybe I added something wrong?

ok I solved it, I just needed to use the first drag down option not fill everything lol

[waxen nymph]

If you want specific uniques rings I would just tick thoses in the uniques drop down
If you want to do a dump uniques rings tab I would leave the 1st one empty and just pick > Rings + Uniques/Sets/ LEg

[autumn prairie]

should I keep exalted items with physical damage, flat or %, or does it not get converted to void damage?

also relevant t6lines on 1handers and shields in case in the future I might switch to that setup?

[waxen nymph]

It doesn't get converted to Void

This is not Poe where phys from weapon get converted

[waxen nymph]

Its just not how that work

But to "compensate" (not really because its just a different system) weapons have adaptive Dmg

Like see how this 2 lines just say "Melee Dmg"

It doesnt have an element

If the skill you are using is Void, then it will turn into Void
If its Fire then Fire

So Inc Phys doesnt do anything since it never is Phys

[uneven gorge]

the more I learn about poe's systems the more I hate them

[waxen nymph]

But Inc Melee do work

[waxen nymph]

Smth smth mods on weapons are local and only apply to said weapons... Blah blah blah base dmg is Phys so you can juice it up and then convert it with the skill
Stuff like that

Not really knowledgeable

[autumn prairie]

but should I keep 1handers/shields?

[turbid dome]

Stash space is cheap and you can have like 220 stash pages, I’d keep some tho I’m also a hoarder

Tho with the new system of picking one exalted affix to 100% go on the item, you want want to drop the T6 ones and only save T7s

[autumn prairie]

is there a way to get alot of money that isnt switching to merchant guild

[turbid dome]

There’s a bunch of money nodes on the weaver tree

Tho as CoF your only use for money is stash tabs and lightless abor

And buying shatter runes I guess

[autumn prairie]

ya for stash tabs I mean

[turbid dome]

Yoink the money nodes and get farmin’

[autumn prairie]

I think im just gonna need less tabs for now then

[turbid dome]

That’s not the loot lizard spirit

[bronze raptor]

Yeah, and instead you enjoy stuff such as:

[turbid dome]

Ah that old relic of a node

[uneven gorge]

You bet your tiny tush I do

[waxen nymph]

This is a leftover from the old time. Before Melee Weapons get adaptive Melee Dmg

[astral crater]

Literally how it feels to play judgement pally and everyone in the party dies for some reason

“Just get more defense” brutal 💔

[mental flare]

do someone know if voidknight multistrike echo only hit once?

[alpine canopy]

It should repeat the full thing. Echoes can make additional swords beyond that if you spec into it, too.

[mental flare]

i mean multistrike full thing is just 1 hit and then create swords if you keep using it, but for example warpath stays a couple of seconds, like 3 o 4 spins iirc. i don't have a vk to check 😦

[alpine canopy]

Right, full thing is the initial swing + all the swords or smites it creates based on your stacks of armament. An echo does exactly that

Warpath is a unique skill because it's channeled, so it follows its own rules. Pretty much every other echo is strictly a single repeat attack and can be procced by any individual attack.

[modern wadi]

Are there any builds that use aura Judgement (that is, they take the Anoited node) as primary dps? Asking because I'd like to suggest that aura Judgement be a toggle (unlimited duration) as a QoL upside to losing 90% of the dps potential of the skill.

[astral crater]

how it feels for the game to freeze and then crash as a pile of rings and amulets, all with lp, drops and i have no chance of collecting them

[mental flare]

there it goes my vk crit multistrike 😦

pala should be better damage wise running full physical

[round flame]

Can anyone check out a build planner and tell me if this build is tanky enough for 500 corruption?

[alpine canopy]

Echoes are like a 40% more hits multiplier, it's pretty hard to compete with as long as you can sustain the mana for bladestorm

[alpine canopy]

Yes there are. If it were a toggle it would either be janky like AoD or force insane snapshotting, either way you lose out imo

[forest kelp]

Need strong filter

[astral crater]

why tho

My filter already works well enough

[forest kelp]

u need it

[astral crater]

Why would i want to do that, my build isnt all sunshines and rainbows, or is this just for useless stuff

[forest kelp]

After adding it, I no longer noticed the condition you described when looting items

But if you really like that feeling, then pretend I never said anything

I used to enjoy the feeling of items dropping all over the screen when playing solo, but now I’ve had to adjust since partying more often; it saves time for me and the other players

[astral crater]

already filtered out the completely useless stuff, the lp items were actually useful so thats why i was bummed out because of the crash

tho migh tneed to adjust the filter more, cause i do occasionally miss useful stuff and instead see trash

[autumn prairie]

What should I add to these? don't really have better gloves yet

I could put a t6 attack speed if it takes it eheh

[chilly peak]

You need badly +Mana to enable Warriors Fury if I remember correct. Next stat prio wise is indeed Attack Speed, but some people also like to fit in Armor Shred on the gloves (depends a bit on the rest of your setup)

[waxen nymph]

Speed, Shred, Hp, are generally good on gloves
But you want mana imo

To get Warrior Fury

[autumn prairie]

also I got a second 1lp maw, should I "gamble" lps on it since now I am insured?

[chilly peak]

If you have 1LP, sure try now on 2LP - that makes sense

[autumn prairie]

<@&1161418687471956101>

oh you guys got it already

[waxen nymph]

🫡

[autumn prairie]

thank you for your cervix

[autumn prairie]

should I gamble the better or worse rolled one

[autumn prairie]

I'll gamble the better one since its gonna be a "momentary" weapon anyway, ideally I'll get worldsplitter right?

anyway I managed to arrive to 200 corr, if I don't find much resistance should I increase it to 300?

[waxen nymph]

For Warpath you don't want World Splitter

You want Needle

[autumn prairie]

Needle is my actual endgame weapon?

[waxen nymph]

Yeah

[autumn prairie]

so I'm actually rng-bound to the max

[waxen nymph]

World Splitter scale with Mana Cost
Mana Cost is different then Channel Cost
Warpath always cost 1 mana
It sucks

[autumn prairie]

😭

so its for erasing strike I assume?

[waxen nymph]

Yup for exemple

You can farm a bunch of Needle "easily" by spamming the Woven echo Lostwood Folly

You are garantied to find Clotho there. And that's the boss that drop Clotho's Needle

[autumn prairie]

I need to use lostwood folly's for this strat https://youtu.be/qmlwVUGd9v0?si=QUiXpRZgvGvyOb4R&t=403 that I am thinking of trying once I get my build going a little bit more so I guess I'm gonna be running them anyway

[forest kelp]

Dont tell him about that suck

[waxen nymph]

Or you can be a giga Chad and DW

[autumn prairie]

DW?

[forest kelp]

Playing from the start of the season to the end without knowing what a sexy needle looks like

Pure rng

[waxen nymph]

Dual Wielding

[short sleet]

guys can Warpath Smite Paladin beat uber? does it have enough dps

[keen radish]

I don't see why not. Anything with a few million dps has enough damage tbh, won't be as easy as other builds but you have great sustain and can get decently tanky so it'll just take a while but should be doable

[verbal vapor]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/owwpRVko this one can

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (78) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 5,153, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 1,173.91, Regen: 14.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 34%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 75 Str / 24 Dex / 17 Int / 23 Att / 47 Vit
▸ Resistances: 94% / 88% / 88% / 76% / 82% / 81% / 81%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 68%, Threshold: 1,316
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (96)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 72% (7,106)

Used skills:

Warpath / Symbols of Hope / Abyssal Echoes / Devouring Orb / Anomaly

[forest kelp]

That not Pally 💀

[verbal vapor]

Touche

[waxen nymph]

And its not Smite either

[forest kelp]

I've seen many builds that can function at 2k corruption or higher, capable of killing timeline bosses and Orobyss, but powerless against Uberroth🫂

[short sleet]

bro just read the first 3 words 💀

[verbal vapor]

Hand is faster than brain soemtimes

[short sleet]

Suggestions are welcomed if some Paladin expert wanna help
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWWLdZLQ (build plan not actual char)

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (22) / Void Knight (5) / Paladin (86)

General:

▸ Health: 4,853, Regen: 179.76/s
▸ Mana: 1,278.77, Regen: 18.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 50%, Regen: 2/s
▸ Attributes: 36 Str / 11 Dex / 25 Int / 93 Att / 23 Vit
▸ Resistances: 176% / 114% / 180% / 74% / 106% / 105% / 125%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 53%, Threshold: 2,007
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (52)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 57% (3,972)

Used skills:

Warpath / Smite / Javelin / Holy Aura / Symbols of Hope

[warped night]

I wouldn't convert smite to lightning if you're using warpath since you get free fire pen

can swap culnivar's for a firestarter's torch

and probably vortex pennant for either a code of the erased sentinel, twisted heart, or shattered worlds

[chilly peak]

I'm still hunting the Needle, but I can assure you, that you will just fly through 1k+ corr with a nice 2LP Apathys Maw too. Needle can be better, but Axe is most solid too.

I never bothered to push higher as 1250 with my VK, but it is still perfectly fine at that level. I call that endgame for sure and you can blast through it.
Yeah for sure, that is far from record breaking, but most enjoyable for me 🙂 And I try to see it positive, the Needle is at least one of the last things that I can still chase

[waxen nymph]

I would take Flame Burst in Holy Aura

But let me ping an actual expert

@gusty abyss
Sorry we need your expertise

[gusty abyss]

Who, me? 😛

I don't think flameburst is worth it if you go lightning, as flameburst is fire, no scaling overlap. Besides you would have lightning bolts to cover your AOE needs

But I would drop the crit chance and multi in the smite tree, you must max atonement or you will be low life a lot, also conflagration is big for damage.

[short sleet]

I assume the leech + healings + regens is more than enough to cover Sacrifice node (saw few gameplays) and I was also considering Conflagration might be more worth it than getting crit cap + 100% crit multi

is this better?

[gusty abyss]

Id do this:

Your gonna machine gun smites, your gonna be missing ~30% hp constantly, even if recovery is really high, if it combines with a high hit, splat

[short sleet]

3 lightning bolts is enough? mainly for clearspeed trash mobs

[gusty abyss]

I mean, I am running as void VK, my only AOE is Anomaly time wave. Doing perfectly fine with that

When I ran it as paladin fire last season flameburst hardly ever procs, because the smites already clear

That is without the bolts, so yeah, I would say 3 bolts is plenty

[short sleet]

ill do this and maybe take additional Cyclone of War in Warpath to crit cap but idk which points to move

[gusty abyss]

Yeah, it would probably come at the cost of either mana or health on chest to get + warpath instead

or sacriface the spelldamage on warpath, as you should already have a lot with that much missing mana

[short sleet]

Hmm I'm kinda expecting myself probbly only get 1LP AoW with t7 hp

[gusty abyss]

AoW?

[short sleet]

WoA*

reversed lol 😅

Wings of Argentus

[short sleet]

yea should get 200+ flat spell from devotion alone

[gusty abyss]

Well, I just got my 4th 2lp wings this season, time to find another double exalt.

Its gonna be so big if I can hit vit + warpath xD

[short sleet]

4 2LP woa with how many stolen lance kills lol

[gusty abyss]

Where does it show that again?

[short sleet]

45% * 1/390 to get 2LP requires a lot of kills

[gusty abyss]

running at 1kc as CoF, its over 100% chance for a chest to drop with 1 in 166

and that is not including nemesis for all the non lp, turtle and nemesis all those reset by the turtle

[short sleet]

im on MG this season, cause CoF's idols and WW farming is ass

[gusty abyss]

But probably over 400 kills on argentus, yeah

they nerfed idols so hard by removing smart loot

[short sleet]

can only see total timelines conquered in monolith overall, afaik no way to see per timeline

[gusty abyss]

removing nearly all affixes from rare to normal makes up a little, but it was so much easier last season

weaver idols in comparison is super easy

[short sleet]

is it really easy? with the whole doing idol prophecies inside tomb/cemetery right?

[gusty abyss]

nah, they where missing at the start, but they fixed them, they have their own prophecies

[short sleet]

but the reroll and spending favor and sitting in observatory is kinda annoying

[gusty abyss]

yeah for sure

[short sleet]

played CoF on release and season 1, tried MG in s2 and I think I prefer MG

unless they improve CoF QoL idk if I wanna go back

[gusty abyss]

I havent tried MG, then again, I kind cant stand trade 😄

[short sleet]

I killed black sun at least 300+ times and only have gotten 1 2LP WS, MG droprate tho

[gusty abyss]

I got 2 2lp WS doing 100 Abberoth runs the other day

.5 crit as well

[short sleet]

yea maybe I should spend my 100+ eyes and 60+ ubers, but currently just wanna spam troves

have been getting unlucky on amulets with imprinted t7 t7 t6

even though I have 4 of the uniques ready for slam, might give up and settle for t7 t7 t1 or t7 t6 t5 that I have

[gusty abyss]

Yeah, gonna have look for an amulet for this one

[short sleet]

but its annoying to see all my gear has multi exalt t7 t7 legendaries and my amulet still on t7 t5

[gusty abyss]

yeah my current nihilus was slammed before the understanding that double exalts are very doable 😦

[short sleet]

I mean look at this shit, my amulet make my eyes sore https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B4Z0Z41A

[crude matrix]

Warlock, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (36) / Warlock (57)

General:

▸ Health: 4,023, Regen: 23.25/s
▸ Mana: 255.51, Regen: 12.08/s
▸ Ward Retention: 272%, Regen: 236/s
▸ Attributes: 30 Str / 21 Dex / 108 Int / 15 Att / 38 Vit
▸ Resistances: 111% / 76% / 76% / 104% / 86% / 524% / 122%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 21%, Threshold: 805
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (112)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 53% (3,461)

Used skills:

Chthonic Fissure / Bone Curse / Rip Blood / Transplant / Profane Veil

[gusty abyss]

Well, it is armor shred, how many stacks do you hit?

[short sleet]

bosses usually caps around 60 stacks

[gusty abyss]

that is most of the value though

[short sleet]

ideally wants t7 ignite, t7 shred, t5/t6 fire pen

[gusty abyss]

at least for non phys

[short sleet]

but when I see tunklab and what ppl r saying u kinda wants around 100ish stacks before it becomes insignificant

[gusty abyss]

yeah, its ~5% more damage. A solid up still.

also helps a lot with the ramp of it

[short sleet]

47.8% to 54.14% more dmg for non-phys

[gusty abyss]

yeah, so 154/148=1.04, or 4% more over your current damage.

[short sleet]

yeah might be not worth the troves grind but I'll waste the t7 t7 t6 amulet imprint 😭

also the 4 3LPs 😭

[short sleet]

anyways thanks @gusty abyss for the good suggestions, anything u wanna add for the gears and passives maybe?

[gusty abyss]

Well, I would take the armor while channeling blessing, but then you would have to solve endurance another way. It would push that build to over 6k armor though.

Other than that it is probably some trail and error, is 1 point in judgement of the storm good enough for lightning shred up time?

Advant of the erased is solid in terms of defensive power, personally I think its rather slow. At least, compared to Vanguard boots with exalted MS and experimental haste

[short sleet]

its a generic hit chance and u kinda hits a lot of time with wp+smite+bolts+axe throws, but its true need testing to make sure

[short sleet]

I was thinking to put blood of the exile/ vaion but decided for advent cuz this boots is insane defensive-wise

[gusty abyss]

and failed the slam on the wings again

oh well

[short sleet]

this makes the char tankier against one-shot but weaker against DoT, but good idea nonetheless

[silk wasp]

Is there a cap to Scrap Metal stacks beyond however many you can get to proc

[autumn prairie]

do you think I should risk the better or worse Maw then?

[waxen nymph]

No hard cap

[silk wasp]

Sweet

[forest kelp]

Does Commoner's Riches work with item drops from Warden's Echo?

[turbid dome]

I'd assume so, its an enemy in a regular echo

[chilly peak]

Up to you mate, both can make sense

Pro slamming the better: Use it before it rottens.
I as COF player waited too often too long with some slams, and so eventually never did them before season end.
That's why I slammed playable 4LP much sooner this season

Pro slamming the worse: A 2LP Maw isn't too rare and IF you manage to hit 2 LP on a better roll and hit the slam, you most probably just made your perfect endgame weapon

I wouldn't overthink it. I have a bad rolled Maw with a bad rolled 6/7 slam (missed 7/7 sooo often now) and it still easily handles way above 1k corr

[forest kelp]

Is it really that hard to imprint a red ring? I put them in 3 slots and ran it all afternoon but got nothing... If I had known, I would’ve spent 1m favor on it today

[strange snow]

They just rare. I’ve gotten a few around 300k favor and random mobs. Double check your loot filter and see if it picks it up

If you have bad rng can take a bit

You won’t see one for a while then all sudden get 3 or 4 as well heh

[turbid dome]

rngjesus giveth and rngjesus taketh

[forest kelp]

The filter has no issue because usually when I spend 600k favor, I get 3-4 red rings from prophecies

[upbeat burrow]

Guys, which sword is better for Warpath Void Knight in your opinion? Tooltip shows slightly higher dps on attack speed one, I'm not sure whether it takes void penetration into calculations tho

[warped night]

definitely the attack speed one. warpath scales hard on attack speed

[waxen nymph]

Guys I need help

I dont have a pair of Vaion's Chariot to test smth

Anyone willing to test it for me ?

Should be pretty quick to test

[warped night]

I think I have one

what are you tryin to test?

[waxen nymph]

If Warslash is affected by Vaion

I know Warpath get one empowered tick every 3'sec

[warped night]

I would think not since it's not a movement skill

[waxen nymph]

It's a subskill of Warpath

So technically it should inherit

But since Vaion and Warpath are weird together

I wish we could encounter arena champions inside Monos with a node

And not just inside a Woven echo

[warped night]

warpath consumes it every time it comes back up

so it's kind of impossible to tell

[waxen nymph]

What if you do a Warslash with the boots and one without

[mental flare]

do you want to see if you stopped channeling warpath but you keep moving, the warlash get busted by vaion damage per movement speed?

or im missing something

[warped night]

no difference

[waxen nymph]

OK thx

[mental flare]

i love these boots it's a shame it's so hard to get a 2lp

[waxen nymph]

No, I wanted to see if the more dmg for movement skill would apply to Warslash

It's fine, I'll just use Suloron Step

[mental flare]

as always, hard to beat tbh

[autumn prairie]

I'm farming along of code of erased sentinel relics but no good rolls sadge

also 269 corr is starting to chunk me but i'm still going

[mental flare]

i gave up on that one long time ago

but with luck it can be pretty nasty

[forest kelp]

The ww item has ruined my life

[autumn prairie]

the variance is just so big

[warped night]

you were doing spell warpath right?

[autumn prairie]

vk warpath void melee dmg

[warped night]

ah

use an anchor of oblivion in the meantime then

[autumn prairie]

dont got one yet

I think I'll reach 300 corr and switch timeline

[warped night]

lot easier to get one of those than a well rolled code

[autumn prairie]

whats the min weaver will I should bother with on a erased sentinel code?

usually I'll try everything over 16 and only if I am out of them I will try under

[alpine canopy]

Depends on how badly you need something in that slot. But usually if you're just focusing on one WW item in particular, you can slap runes of weaving at almost all of them. Typically only takes 1-2 runes to see if they have potential.

[waxen nymph]

Hum, does Cyclone of War affect Warslash

?

You arent spining anymore

Answer > No

What about Warrior Fury?

Oo

If you run out of Mana you dont get Warslash

[waxen nymph]

Well, it doesnt look like it

So Warslash doesnt benefit from 2 of the best nodes in Warpath

OOF

[waxen nymph]

It doesnt even feel like its getting this

[autumn prairie]

could this be useful to some build?

[waxen nymph]

Inc Dmg so meh

[chilly peak]

Jesus, after a month of casual Needle hunting we inreased the pace.
Did now 2 days almost exclusively Folly with my teammate and still nothing.

Did anyone ever really hit IAS and void melee on a live server? 😛

[autumn prairie]

in case I wanted to switch my vk warpath to a vk erasing strike its easily done right? pretty much the same build item wise?

and yes i'd need worldsplitter

[warped night]

Could also do Rive. The attack speed investment translates better

But yeah there's generally a lot of gear overlap with void melee vk

[knotty jay]

Hey all! Here is my very stunderful BONK shield bash build. It has a fewww missing bits I would love to get figured out tho! It is homebrewed, so i didnt follow any guides or such.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oy3lz4OQ

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (78) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,081, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 182.51, Regen: 12.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 81%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 187 Str / 18 Dex / 18 Int / 31 Att / 28 Vit
▸ Resistances: 143% / 116% / 76% / 87% / 84% / 80% / 120%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 58%, Threshold: 681
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (98)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 74% (7,941)
▸ Block Chance: 72%, Mitigation: 66% (3,965)

Used skills:

Shield Bash / Healing Hands / Shield Throw / Ring Of Shields / Symbols of Hope

[knotty jay]

Anyone have recommendations for the oneslot idols? Also any good way to get some consistent physical resist shred?

Am currently getting 150K base SB hits, up to 400K when at full buffs/hammer stacks

[knotty jay]

Thanks for the advice you gave last time btw @warped night

[autumn prairie]

finally found an axe with crit on it, and since its a t6 I'm just gonna put it on the high rolled maw and be done with it

yaay

[turbid dome]

🎉

[warped night]

You can get phys res shred from the axe throw passive on sentinel + the throwing res shred passive on FG. I'd recommend phys pen for those 1 idol slots. That or cover your res

[autumn prairie]

whats better? ofc im gonna try putting some LP on it

and I also got an even better maw now lol I'll try to 2lp it

[chilly peak]

You have no access to Abby yet I guess?

[autumn prairie]

nop working on it, I just 300'd age of winter and now Im figuring out where else to go, Black sun has worldsplitterbut I dont need it rn apparently, so I need to check what I could need and where to get it

maybe fall of empires for anchor

[chilly peak]

If Nihilis is out of range, you should see what you could need the most. Iirc I wore a Exalted Amulet until I got my hands on a nice Nihilis, but Pearls or Omnis could also both do the job. Orians Eye also comes to my mind (if it has a nice Mana roll and LP), but that's also a very rare amulet.

Omnis comes with the nice +1 all skills, you should check in advance how you'd benefit of that. All skills are nice for WP-VK, but if you play the Axe for now, you are not really dependent on Skills.

Pearls has the nice Vita and some nice resistance, if you need the resistance for sure a good intermediate amulet too.

[autumn prairie]

also spirits of fire for suloron

[chilly peak]

Don't think this way. Suloron are a global drop and hunting those shoe nodes in Spirits won't chance anything noticable.

Hunt for blessings and boss loot, and grab global uniques with your item faction imo

[autumn prairie]

well I also need to get the armor while channeling aswell, and need to kill the harbinger

[chilly peak]

That's a good reason to hunt the timeline. And if you grab a single pair of Sulorons in a few hours hanging around there, just see it as the cherry on top 😄

[autumn prairie]

also how do I raise corr by using the 300 corr in age of winter?

[chilly peak]

Any shade in a timeline that has less corr then another of your timelines, it should grant "bonus corruption" to bring you to around 95% of your highest timeline.
If you play a Confluence you even catch up completely

When you play one echo in a timeline that has 40 less corruption, it will spawn a shade (if there is room) right away.

[autumn prairie]

am I doing it wrong by grabbing every gliyph node I can access before resetting a timeline? are runes more important?

[chilly peak]

Are you short on glyphs?

I usually swim in glyphs and usually have them even blocked by the weavers tree 😛

[ruby tulip]

You should be picking them up everywhere anywhere.

Kinda hard to be lacking in glyphs, unless you mean specific glyphs

[chilly peak]

But I don't care too much about the echo reward anyway. If there's something nice on the way, I grab it ofc, but this late season even the map layout is more important to me.

Anyway, don't overengineer this too much. If you run fast with your build an echo is anyway just 1-2mins, not worth to spend 30secs to think what you pick next

[autumn prairie]

uuuh I got stuck, how do I unstuck myself

[waxen nymph]

Stuck how ? Where ?

[autumn prairie]

rolling did it, had to take off crab ring

between a pile of gold and a grate

[waxen nymph]

Oo

[autumn prairie]

right there

[waxen nymph]

Do you mind going back and making a bug report ?

[autumn prairie]

do I have to make a video of it?

[waxen nymph]

No, just press F8

It will send it with a screenshot

[ruby tulip]

Another option is to just teleport out maybe if possible

[waxen nymph]

And dont forgot to write the name of the map

[ruby tulip]

Volatile reversal if you have it

[autumn prairie]

I'm in a tomb it doesnt show the name

[chilly peak]

It is shown in the screenshot

[waxen nymph]

I am really sad for Warslash

200% Dmg Effect and only 375% More Dmg after a charging time of 5 secs

Thats really bad

And now you cant even buff your Echoes

[autumn prairie]

I am keeping stuff like t7 poison or t7 burn but I think I'm just hoarding for nothing

[waxen nymph]

Anyone looked into Void Cleave as a main Dmg dealer before?

[wooden mountain]

I've seen builds using VC with eternal eclipse for pretty huge amounts of flat but it isn't remotely comparable to worldsplitter ES afaict

[waxen nymph]

ES WS has too many good synergies imo
I need smth more off meta 😁

EE does look nice

[silk wasp]

Smelter/VC Eclipse was a thing at one point, yeah

[wooden mountain]

yeah it's pretty easy to have void cleave with a close to 2s cooldown & both fire/void tags and that definitely has damage behind it but with EE your filler attacks are going to be weak and void cleave really is just one meaty hit in a good but not incredible AOE every couple of seconds

[autumn prairie]

is ES stronger than WP?

[ruby tulip]

Does anyone use trident of lost refuge? Is that a good niche item or has it fallen off terribly?

[forest kelp]

If talking about the issue of farming, it is correct if you have enough equipment

[late sage]

Hey guys, new to the game on a warpath void knight, i feel quite weak. Here is my char, what would i change to gain the most amount of power and to be able to comfortably go up in corruption ? https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/MIMERR/character/Mimer

[chilly peak]

You are aware how legendary crafting works? I'm quite surprised, that you wear so much uniques and none of them seems to have LP

[late sage]

Ohh, just googled it. So that is how you add additional stats to your gear then.

[chilly peak]

Probably you would be better of with an Apathys Maw axe for now, we had the topic a few times the last days.
In general you are absolutely on the right track, try to improve your uniques to nice legendary one by one. If you manage to slam all of these at least with one nice stat you made another big step

What corruption are you playing currently, and how does it work?

[late sage]

I think im on 146 atm

I just kept killing bosses that dropped the uniques i needed.

[chilly peak]

Is it going well?

[late sage]

It's okay, a bit slow maybe but it works. I figured i must be weak seeing as people are doing way higher ones.

Btw, the way i look at gear is i see if the Damage Numbers on my Warpath goes up, is that a valid/good way to go about it ?

Ie mouse over skill

[chilly peak]

I mean there is a LOT room to grow, but as said, you are absolutely on the right track.
Try to improve your mana and HP pool
Improve Crit, that will help a ton
and time will bring better stuff 😄

[chilly peak]

You mean you look at the tooltip damage?

[late sage]

Yes

[chilly peak]

That is a nice indicator sometimes, and sometimes the tooltip lies to you, it depends. But you can always take it as a rough metric for skills like WP

[late sage]

Thx for the help then, time to farm.

[chilly peak]

Check out the Apathys Maw axe. The Needle is BIS, if you get a nice amount of flat melee void damage and increased attack speed, but that is hard to get.
The axe is something you can work towards, and if you get a nice slam, that will be better as most Needles.

But be carefull. If you take the axe, slam it with + melee crit chance and melee void dmg (instead of IAS) and despec "cyclone of war" in warpath

[late sage]

Put the points in whirling steel maybe ?

[chilly peak]

For farming I combine the Axe with Darkstride boots and have a nice speedy setup, that is absolutely competitive with the Needle

[late sage]

Sweet, i have those boots in my stash aswell

[chilly peak]

Because of the high melee void damage that you have with a 2LP axe, you can reach very high movement speed, or even slam non-movement speed affixes on the boots

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Volin/character/UnholyVolin

[late sage]

So the red gear is legendary, i se your chest has +4 warpath

Ie you took an exalted with warpath + your unique lp chest to smash them together then

[chilly peak]

Correct!
Did you ever play a Temporal Sanctum?

[late sage]

Tbh im not sure, but i know how it works now, just watched it on youtube.

[chilly peak]

Btw, the ingame guide (G by default) can also help to look things up, check it out!

Also explore "Nemesis" and have a look around in the "Woven Echoes".
I guess if you explore that a bit yourself it is more helpful for now

[cerulean sorrel]

Blessed by Nemesis, what affixes you guys usually get into this? Any recommendation?

[waxen nymph]

... Another bug
Void Cleave 50/50 Fire Void still need Bleed Stacks to get the More Dmg from Vorpal Force

[waxen nymph]

What are you playing?

[cerulean sorrel]

am exploring Judgement Pally right now also had Erasing VK in same account

going through 700K corr, but most of the time instantly blown away by Champion skills

[keen radish]

Why would that be a bug

Ah nvm

Didn't read the alt text lul

Wdym 50/50 conversion though? Hellish chasm is 100% conversion

[waxen nymph]

Poor Cyborg, you are out of your water here

[keen radish]

Oh riftflame

Lmao

[waxen nymph]

In Sentinel

[keen radish]

I'm cooked

[waxen nymph]

😏

[keen radish]

Yeah I don't have memory dedicated for things nearly as much outside of mage lul

[waxen nymph]

VC feels really really good

[keen radish]

I also just typed before reading anything lul

Mbmb

[waxen nymph]

It's okay, just messing with you

[keen radish]

What are you cooking with just 50% conversion? Eclipse?

[waxen nymph]

Yup

[keen radish]

Always thought it was an interesting item

[waxen nymph]

450 flat make a skill decent to start with

[keen radish]

Yeah it's 400% effectiveness too

[waxen nymph]

It got quite a few decent More Dmg too

[keen radish]

Sounds dope for clear but single target might be lacking idk

[waxen nymph]

Yup

[keen radish]

Maybe you just do so much damage you blow up bosses too, maybe not ubby but still

If you could spam it you'd get close to shatter strike DPS territory tbh

[waxen nymph]

I wonder if you are not better off trying to lower the cd as much as possible, and play like Vengeance in between so you generator attack deals some dmg

Because with EE you don't want to go under 2 sec

[keen radish]

Tbf it's just 15 mana cost right, or do you take additional charge

Champion of the void could refund the mana cost too

Could just warpath in-between or something idk

[turbid dome]

combo this into a throwing build somehow cause the goofy +100 void throwing damage node is near the +1 VC charge

[warped night]

was it you that I was talking about that? dw aberroth's command + reen/scissor and do that

anyways I love me some void cleave. I use it on my rive build as a secondary damage dealer + utility

think I've seen it hit 2m on some bosses before

the fact that riftflame still needs bleed sucks though since you basically convert all bleed to time rot everywhere

[autumn prairie]

at 300+corr I sometimes get one tapped by big hits, last death was a 4.2k lightning damage hit from who remembers where

stuff like the golems that shoot on the ground and stuff like that

[rocky dome]

Guys, does this class unga bunga?

[warped night]

yes

erasing strike vk is probably the most unga bunga

though initial slam earthquake beastmaster is also pretty unga bunga

[waxen nymph]

My Shatter Totem Werebear is pretty Unga Bunga too

[rocky dome]

Void knight sound fantastic

[warped night]

send it

[rocky dome]

It

[zealous lava]

I'm a scrub looking for some advice. I just rolled sentinel, I want to use a 2h weapon and smash face, thinking about stacking stuns. Lookint at skills seems the good attacks have a cooldown besides whirlwind. That's the skill i'd like to avoid because it's in every arpg. What skills/mastery would you all suggest?

I took rive since i'm so low level, since I wanted to do a stun build i figured maces is the way to go, but in Rive the weapon specialist node scales with attunement....which is a caster stat....so idk if this build idea works.

[strange snow]

hmm have you done uber with it?

[waxen nymph]

Nope

Bossing is really not good

[dense tendon]

shield bash forge guard is the gigastun build afaik

[warped night]

rive being a 0 cost melee attack means you want to be focusing on speed as much as possible. for big stuns with a mace your want to seek out those high damage effectiveness limited use skills like shield bash, shield rush, forge strike, erasing strike, void cleave, etc.

though void cleave can't be used with a mace but the overall point stands

I find that forge strike spam + another melee skill for generating mana like rive or vengeance to be pretty fun

[warped night]

also my meme build brain is telling me I should try a chronostasis & apostate's sanctuary forge strike build

[mental flare]

javelin dmg scale like crazy thanks to this, is the same effect achievable for other physical skills by stacking a lot of shred armor? or nuh uh?

[warped night]

no, completely different modifier, and armor shred starts falling off whereas res pen has the same effectiveness

there's diminishing returns going beyong like 60 armor shred stacks, and very little reason to go beyond like 100

[mental flare]

for multistrike, this kind of works then, i guess. less powerful than forceful hurl but works

[warped night]

I wouldn't get too hung up on only looking to play skills that have one specific kind of multiplier

while the damage formula doesn't change, every skill has different ways to scale it and different ways to play

[mental flare]

multistrike has many, but I remember beating the game with javelin and forceful hurl (phys pen) made my DPS much better so i was looking for at least 1 source of that for this build

don't really care to beat the game again but i just want to meme about multistrike, see how far can i get

but i need to see the new items from the exp

[waxen nymph]

Its really good now with the new node

[alpine canopy]

Yeah bladestorm really fixes multistrike's main weak point

[gusty abyss]

Anyone know if I need 90, or 91 vit for double effect?

[ember fable]

90 is the threshold for the trigger.

[gusty abyss]

Mmm, just tested, it looks like it is 91 (+0.8 mana regen with dorb at 90, vs 1.6 at 91)

[warped night]

sounds like a bug

[gusty abyss]

Yeah, also on dummy, 1.59m at 90 vs 1.74m with 91

[warped night]

they probably did a > instead of a >= by mistake

[gusty abyss]

Yeah, made those plenty of times myself

[ember fable]

Yeah that definitely sounds like that's what's going on, since it says "At least 90" so it should be 90 minimum.

[warped night]

should report it with the bug tool in game

[ember fable]

Surprised that hasn't been caught earlier, to be frank.

[warped night]

I'm guessing most people don't/can't deliberately stop at 90. they probably just stack vit as much as possible and naturally land above 90

[gusty abyss]

I was all happy, hitting double t7 on wings, including 24 vit which put me at exactly 90

nope, need 1 more xD

[warped night]

lmao oof

[ember fable]

That is a fair point to consider, actually, yeah. Good point.

[gusty abyss]

Yeah, I cant get it on idols, so hitting 90 is rough. I can make it work by moving a point though, can also still get proper t7 vit on helm, eventually xD

[zealous lava]

I didn't want to do warpath, but it definitely seems like the most efficeint for leveling at least. That being said, if I dual wield do I get more chances for ignite stacks?

[warped night]

yes, but not because you're hitting with both weapons. assuming you have attack speed and chance to ignite on both weapons

[alpine canopy]

Multistrike is really good once you unlock it and get the bladestorm node.
Dual wielding does not give you more hits, it just adds together your weapons into one - so it can give you more ignite stacks if you get ignite chance and/or attack speed on the second weapon.

[dense tendon]

someone did catch it but no one believed him lol

[zealous lava]

so two-handed weapons are bad since it means fewer stats?

[warped night]

2h have higher stat rolls to compensate some

[alpine canopy]

Compared to dual wielding, yes 2h has lower stats and significantly lower base attack speed. However, dual wielding makes you take more damage, and some stuff specifically synergizes with 2h, dual wield, or 1h+shield.

[warped night]

warpath you usually want to be either dual wielding or using a 2h since it has a node that gives double more damage with either combo

[alpine canopy]

2h does have higher stats than a 1h, but the lower base attack speed is still there on 2h vs 1h+shield

[warped night]

yep

though some 1hs are slow, like maces

[zealous lava]

So instead of stacking ignite, it looks like forge strike and multistrike can both stack bleed and a node in multi strike benefits forge strike

[rocky dome]

Guys, is spin to win a good build?

[warped night]

yeah

[strange snow]

can do uber and 2-3k+ corruption

some sub 2 minute uber kills on youtube

[rocky dome]

Damn

SPIN TO THE WIN

[autumn prairie]

once I got the right blessing(even tho not rolled super high) and got the harbinger kill, if I dont need a drop from a timeline I just move on right?

[warped night]

for what purpose?

[alpine canopy]

Until you complete the harbinger quest, yeah that's the idea. You may want to push the corruption on your first to a little over 300c if you can handle it, or at least ~150c so you can do catch up corruption on your next timelines.

[autumn prairie]

ya my first is 320+ and I'm doing catch up on the others now

[autumn prairie]

wym

[warped night]

like, what is your current goal? what are you working on?

because the roll matters if you're at the min/max stage of your build but otherwise just get through all monos first, then get the blessings you need from all, then get the rolls

[alpine canopy]

Perfect, yeah just complete all the timelines now to get R10 Forgotten Knights, then farm up blessings imo

[ruby tulip]

You'll start picking up good gear while you're farming up blessings.

[chilly peak]

Quick question on your VK-WP-Smite if you don't mind, @gusty abyss . First - amazing char, I really like it!

Do you think the axe throw from Riverbend adds much value? I always had the feeling with Fire-WP-Smite that the passive + Vortex were enough to hit the cap anyway.
Probably you added this for bossing? What's your thoughts behind it?

[gusty abyss]

I actually think it makes most sense on paladin as you dont have echo's throwing axes to hit the cap there.

I added it out of habit, and if echoes are giving a dry patch, it helps bridge the gap.

[chilly peak]

Lol, echoes throw axes, that trigger smite... makes sense, never thought about it. Amazing

[gusty abyss]

they also trigger palarus, no need for AS.

[chilly peak]

Yeah that is already the case for Pallys. You cap out too fast to make IAS interesting at all

[gusty abyss]

I did manage to get a 3lp blood mage gloves, might spend the time to farm some solid exalt and slam that.

[chilly peak]

Yeah, that was one of the options I actually thought about. I mean it was clear why you choose Riverbend, tho my experience on Pallys says it could be a little over the top, hence the question

[gusty abyss]

Uber gloves should work as well, ravenous if you have cleanse.

[chilly peak]

I thought about this build before, but never heard of it ever.
Nice to see that it seems to work at least as good as the fire version. I need to play that soon! 😄

[unreal linden]

Hey.. i'm playing VK Warpath and I'm struggling to get a helmet with mana, channeling and HP... is there a way to reliably craft 3 affixes?

[gusty abyss]

I have been playing it along side fire paladin for a year 😄

[chilly peak]

Imprinting and praying

[chilly peak]

I'm a WP lover and this one really is missing in my portfolio 😄

[gusty abyss]

Its kind of a problem for me, I can't seem to let this build go.

[unreal linden]

That was gonna be my question, I want it on a Leonine helm base but I only have 2T6's on that base. Would imprinting on a 2xT6 Leonine base be better as opposed to imprinting a different base but with 1xT7 and 2xT6?

[chilly peak]

I'm the wrong to answer this question. I personally was the guy imprinting Leos here.

Imo a nice Leo with the right stats and 7/5/5/x is better then any other workaround. Ofc a Leo with fitting affixes and multi exalt would be even better, but that is not so easy to get probably

I was the most lucky guy in the world and got my hands on this one#👑┃item-showcase message

[unreal linden]

Did you imprint a Leo base? What affixes did you have/how did you craft it?

[chilly peak]

My helm prio would be here from top to bottom:

• T6+ channel cost
• a Leo helm
• good implicit
• increased HP
• Mana
• multi exalt
• whatever suffix you need else

[chilly peak]

I imprinted a Leo, but I'm not even sure if that Leo that I wear was craft directly from the Nemesis base, as it has that high sealed stat.

I was mega lucky, hit the channelcost with redemption, chaos'ed the second prefix to Mana, and Havoc'ed exalts to the prefix.

[unreal linden]

what would you imprint if you were me? a Leonine with 2T6's or a random helmet with 1T7 and 2T6's?

since I think the random helm can still drop as Leonine just not as likely

[chilly peak]

I said, I'm not the guy to answer this scientifically 😄 But I personally would imprint a Leo, if I want a Leo as outcome.
Yeah, bases switch, but not reliably enough for me to build on that. Cause you also need some decent FP on the base switch to get a Leo that you can imprint from, if you choose to imprint a non-Leo first

If that somehow makes sense to you 😄

[silent storm]

My friend has had way more leonines drop after imprinting one

If that helps

[little lodge]

Can confirm that too. I have a loot filter that screams when it sees any leonine helm, and through that I noticed a considerable uptick of them after I imprinted.

[half pivot]

Hey guys im new to the game and just beat the campaign with my void knight, im about lvl 60. Whats the best build to run for early endgame?

[turbid dome]

you have a lot of options, though to ask what did you play through the campaign?

and is there a skill you enjoy using?

[half pivot]

I leveled up with the hammers and switched to this multistrike smite build i saw on youtube buttt im struggling with mana, was just curious if theres anything better

I did wanna do a more mele focused build

[turbid dome]

for the multistrike build, do you have 5 points into time and faith (Node in base sentinel tree) ?

as for something to swap too, rive + void cleave + erasing strike is a solid build to use until you can get the parts to build infinite bonk es

multistrike works for this too (and a bunch of other skills)

[half pivot]

Ok thanks! I only had 2 points in it, i will try it with 5 points

[turbid dome]

that might fix it

and remember time and faith triggers on swing (NOT on hit) so if you low on mana just stand there and swing for like 10 seconds and have mana again

[half pivot]

Awesome thanks, Ill try it now

[waxen nymph]

@chilly peak You might know

A good melee prefix on grand solar Idol ?

You use Warpath Area for your build ?

There is Inc Melee Void as suffix

[chilly peak]

I tried grands, but dropped them in the end - why do you want to use grands, for the shred?

[waxen nymph]

I thought they could be good

[chilly peak]

I switched to those Humbles and won 2 slots.

I was interested in Grands for the frenzy enchant, but it procced to rarely for me

[waxen nymph]

Yeah that look like smth I want

For VoidCleave there is only the suffix thats good

Even the enchants are meh

You use Ornate, no ?

[chilly peak]

Yeah the prefix for Grands are meh. Even the area for WP isn'T that strong

I use the ornates with Echo and Melee dmg ofc, they add massive dmg

[waxen nymph]

Shame I cant reliably use the prefix

[turbid dome]

When in doubt use +5 vit 1x2 idols

The use the saved space on your other gear for affixes that at are better for VC

[chilly peak]

What he says

They are stronger than I'd have guessed first

[turbid dome]

I love that combo

More damage, max health, resistances, flat damage

What more could you want in a 1x2 idol

Like honestly, just fill up your idol grid with these and a few of the 2x1 weaver idols with %increased health

[waxen nymph]

I have the feeling using EE on VC is fun but kinda bait

Sorry for the ping, forgot to cancel the reply

[turbid dome]

Ping

[chilly peak]

All good, I don't mind pings in a convo 🙂

[waxen nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-no-noooo-gif-7347380959994097336

[turbid dome]

Your suppose to say pong

[waxen nymph]

Polo ?

[turbid dome]

Bait used to be believable

[chilly peak]

EE?

[waxen nymph]

Eternal Eclipse

[turbid dome]

Let EE’s cooldowns be affected by cooldown recovery

[waxen nymph]

Careful, we might reach 1/3 of the power of Falcon

Nerf!

[turbid dome]

I’m surprised there’s no mtx to turn the falcon into a big bee

[chilly peak]

Don't forget Vlad, we also have broken Sentinels 😄

[waxen nymph]

The only thing thats broken in Sentinel is my soul

[turbid dome]

Mfw the heavily armored melee guy is heavily armored and can melee

tho the not die should probably be weakened a bit

Leonine helmet is still stupidly strong

[autumn prairie]

for my wp vk, I dropped a 0lp anchor of oblivion, should I use that or this?

this code basically finished my symbols of hope specialization, I go to 84% crit rate

[chilly peak]

You can put the Anchor in a Nemesis egg, perhaps you get LP

[autumn prairie]

thats what I plan to do

[chilly peak]

My teammate just randomly in Discord: "I mean, Volatile lets you jump forward in time. Why does Warpath reset, it should get bigger, or?"

Tempted to suggest for the memes 😛

[autumn prairie]

also what can I do with this, or its not like poe and its useless

[turbid dome]

• craft on affixes you want, like hybrid health or vitality
• if you want to put T6 movement speed onto a 1 lp unique, just throw 3 T1 affixes onto it then slam in a level 2 or higher temporal sanctum to gaurantee the T6 ms slam (dont forget to select it in the dropdown)

[autumn prairie]

yeah but what can I craft with 30 forging potential

[turbid dome]

probably a T5 or 2

depends on if you get lucky with glyphs of hope or not

[chilly peak]

Probably the most realistic BIS for WP VK, I die on this hill (and there is no Needles up here😔 )
Lend this for the next two weeks and it boosts my DPS again by around 20%

[turbid dome]

very nice

you should swap to rive vk

[chilly peak]

🙂

[waxen nymph]

No AS is though for Rive, no?

[turbid dome]

AS is nice but imo flat crit and T28 flat melee void are a higher priority for rive @waxen nymph

[waxen nymph]

T28?

[winter copper]

isnt t7 speed+t7 crit just better?

[chilly peak]

Looked to me like melee void and speed ended up quite the same, that's why I settled on melee void for the extra MS which comes very handy for farming.
But yeah, IAS is VERY strong on WP and should result in the same

[turbid dome]

It comes with a T7 melee void

You slam on a T7 melee void

They both get doubled

[warped night]

you don't need flat crit on weapon for rive

[winter copper]

speed also gets doubled tho

[warped night]

it does not

if you meant for rive

if not then ignore me lol

[turbid dome]

Only aliment chance, %increased damage and flat melee damage gets doubled

[warped night]

speed is still BiS for rive even though it doesn't get doubled imo

[winter copper]

i dont understand that tbh, with just base weapon+sigils+passives you are sitting at around 250-260 flat dmg, and with just items+passives+anomaly you have around 100%~ as, so slamming 100% as doubles dmg while slamming flat is less than 50% more dmg

[turbid dome]

I normally do peak of the mountain so I like flat crit so I can put a different hat on

if I could ever slam a good peak of the mountain then yeah AS time

[warped night]

I don't use peak and I don't run flat crit

still hitting 100% crit

[turbid dome]

gasp

[warped night]

crit rolled on ring, base crit from mortal cleave and shattered worlds, crit from anomaly and sigils, crit vuln from void cleave

[turbid dome]

ah well theres the thing I put on my peak of the mountain/have flat crit on it and then I'm good to go crit wise

[warped night]

the AS is too valuable

[turbid dome]

[warped night]

my rive setup is at roughly a 2 min uber kill right now. haven't been playing it much recently so gear hasn't improved, but there is still room for improvement

plus, gotta go fast

[turbid dome]

one day I'll finish my giga thicc boi rive vk

Gotta get that clean 15k health

[turbid dome]

Fair

[warped night]

more swing = more better 😏

[winter copper]

the only thiccc boy(girl) in LE is necro

[mental flare]

new update looks fantastic, t1-t30 (?

[chilly peak]

Probably I was misled, cause I tested with T5 stats, but it wasn't the slightest noticeable difference in attack speed vs melee void. Your calculation seems logic ofc, but I'm not the guy to do the math here. I usually rely on players like you, test a bit around and take what feels good (and what I have access too).

A guy on YT inspired me with his farming setup that's why I even made this char. On the first slams I was short on exalteds and tried IAS out of interest, cause I knew it may scale great, but it ended up the same with my past setup, hence decided for melee Void and therefore ~20%more MS.

Anyway, I'm happy, but if I ever have the opportunity I may test IAS as option for bossing again!

[winter copper]

hmm did u test with dummy kill time?

[turbid dome]

How can you say that when bear form Druid is right there

[winter copper]

cause necro can get 10k+hp and 15k ward on top +drs and 16k+ armor

[turbid dome]

I raise you judgement paladin

[chilly peak]

No, tooltip as indicator and starting dmg on the dummy. Didn't knew that back then ^^

[winter copper]

and you dont even need to fight cause your minions will do it for u

[winter copper]

ah well ya, never trust

[warped night]

the coward's way, yes

[chilly peak]

But I just realize, how stupid that is

[warped night]

sir, this is a bonk channel

[chilly peak]

Don't tell me ^^

[turbid dome]

Doesn’t warpath’s tool tip damage go up with physical damage even after you convert it to void

[chilly peak]

Yeah it is messy as hell

[winter copper]

warpath was made 8 years ago, has been reworked 2ce and still has sphagetty code, out of all skills i expect it to work least reliable

and btw its still bugged in many ways if u just start testing anything related to warslash

[waxen nymph]

Warslash in shambles

[winter copper]

yep warslash should have been the king of the patch doing 2ce the dps of timerot javelin, insteas its a bugged mess that does 0 dmg

[turbid dome]

Shout out to when they made warpath insta hit enemies entering it, which then caused your echos damage hitbox to move with you

Still wish that was a node

[chilly peak]

Thanks for your feedback, @winter copper .
I was really disappointed by your "just slot BIS Needle and go, easy" a few weeks ago - not helpful!

But your input now made me really want to look at IAS again now. But glad the melee void is still probably the best pick for farming

[winter copper]

Just get needle ez

😏

[chilly peak]

Yeah, I already called Folly "home" back then. ^^ And for the newbie I was talking with, it was even less helpful 😄

I say - the Needle is a hoax! 🙂

Nobody on a live server has that needle you need 😄

[winter copper]

next patch sure will make fg more viable, with its amazing and impactful forge strike and smelter wrath

[warped night]

I hate smelter's wrath so much

[winter copper]

not as much as i do

[warped night]

forge strike is at least okay, but when you compare it to erasing strike it's an aboslute joke

[turbid dome]

All I want from smelters is a node that causes it to slowly charge while not using it

Call it retail worker or something cause that wrath is always building in the background

[warped night]

lol I just posted a suggestion like that yesterday in the suggestion forum section

[winter copper]

there is only like 5+ simple ways to fix it, but devs are confirmed to hate fg and melee so nothing gonna happen

[mental flare]

Backend Dev node

[winter copper]

heard next new skill in s3 will be a melee skill for lich, watch it burn and crash too

[turbid dome]

True the best melee is melee that covers half the screen

[turbid dome]

Dev who has to convert punch cards into python because their boss told them to node (hey that’s me)

[winter copper]

nah best melee is melee that doesnt feel like shite to play, not much to ask for imo

[warped night]

rive best melee confirmed

[turbid dome]

I’m saying melee in the game currently, not ideal/actual melee

It’s the same thing in Poe, slams are “melee”

[mental flare]

hope last epoch don't fall in the volcanic fissure, lightning strike, frost blades gameplay

false melee shit

[turbid dome]

Infinite erasing strike spam does

[mental flare]

ES is for cowards

[turbid dome]

At least for the slams part of that

[warped night]

yes. real melee gamers use rive and void cleave obv

[winter copper]

true path of melee is after playin exclusevely sentinel for 5+ years stop doing it and play a good class instead

[turbid dome]

🐟

Go go gadget cyborgs’s self bleed shatter strike build

[winter copper]

also how do u guys like amazing fg passive that gives phys res after being hit?

🤔

or retaliate proc skill on sentinel base passive tree 🤣