Yep, and you need at least 2lp Salt
#🔱┃sentinel
waxen nymph
autumn knot
flayers only seems viable if I slam a T6 or T7 block chance on it
I do feel like my damage is kinda low right now though
waxen nymph
Otherwise you cant get HP, Throwing Spell etc
autumn knot
throwing speed u mean?
waxen nymph
... Yup
autumn knot
I also feel like using one Orian's ring could work if I get a LP2 and slam it well
ill prob farm a flayers though
autumn knot
yeah. I have a lp1 salt and the only lp2 orian I found didn't hit the -3 throwing mana lol
turbid dome
forged weapons fall under robots for me, so thats basically its own person
anything else and when the robots rise up in like 8 cycles as the new cycle mechanic, your not gonna have a great time
quiet hearth
Listen, if it has a health bar, that's its own fault
autumn knot
oof these rolls ;_;
turbid dome
Listen, if it has a health bar, that's its own fault
lol
turbid dome
oof these rolls ;_;
🫂
quiet hearth
So what skill would we get rid of, to have a proper melee skill in base sent that had conversions to all our damage types in it's tree?
I nominate Multistrike
OR vengeance
turbid dome
make iron blades not 2/3rds of vengance's tree and fill that space with conversion stuff
quiet hearth
It would be thematic at least
turbid dome
ok its not 2/3rds but its still a lot
quiet hearth
I wouldnt mind if it wasnt basically useless
turbid dome
fair enough
I'd like seeing them make the trigger iron blades nodes better and see if iron blades can be fun
quiet hearth
Honestly, the numbers are garbo on it too
waxen nymph
90% sure Iron Blades dont even inherit More Dmg from Vengeance
quiet hearth
quiet hearth
turbid dome
these two nodes also confuse me, they both trigger an iron blades when you riposte something
but why is the lil node not connected to the big iron blades on riposte node
waxen nymph
The small is Iron Blade on Hit with Riposte
The Big one is Riposte with Iron Blade
Subtle but both useless
turbid dome
big one is when you riposte you also shoot an iron blade
I guess the difference is the small one needs the riposte to hit
waxen nymph
Yep
Honeslty the good things about Vengeance are
- Fire Shred (quite situationnal)
- Less Dmg Taken
- Global More Dmg for stuff you procc
Not super sexy
turbid dome
no zealot tech?
waxen nymph
Why ?
turbid dome
more riposte = good
especially if your using perfect riposte to avoid crits
plus the DR from riposting something (18% DR here)
waxen nymph
If you are in a pack imo 2or 3 ripostes is not going to change much
Against a boss its rare to even loose one
waxen nymph
Sure
turbid dome
we have lion hat
crit defense is like the one non armor defensive layer sentinel doesn't lack
waxen nymph
crit defense is like the one non armor defensive layer sentinel doesn't lack
EHG:
It AlSo hAs BlOcK !
waxen nymph
Give me that 18% with Dreamthorn and call it a day
turbid dome
Something like double block chance when using a twohander, half your block effectiveness would be cool
quiet hearth
Cast smite on repost instead
warped night
rive builds are pretty popular
quiet hearth
Rive isnt an AA, it is a skill
warped night
When I said AA I meant rive, vengeance, and multistrike
waxen nymph
Something like double block chance when using a twohander, half your block effec...
Max you are looking at with only non-Shield/Weapon is 30%
With triple t5 (2 on rings and 1 on gloves) + Blessing + Passive
turbid dome
darn
waxen nymph
Its surprisingly high
With your idea you would go up to 60%
Block Effect 37% though
quiet hearth
block effect isnt a percentage tho?
turbid dome
block effect is turned into a % which is the DR on block
quiet hearth
Ah ok
turbid dome
I think the ingame character screen says block eff and shows a %?
quiet hearth
I honestly dont like block eff as a mechanic
waxen nymph
With triple t7 you get 33% Block Chance and 52% Block Effect
turbid dome
I like it cause it means we can have 100% block chance
quiet hearth
how does block eff=block chance?
quiet hearth
high block effectiveness isnt the same as high block
turbid dome
oh wait I misread that
waxen nymph
how does block eff=block chance?
By having block never able to completely mitigate a hit, you can leave room to have 100% chance
turbid dome
^
waxen nymph
Otherwise you would have to make like PoE and prevent player from reaching 100%
turbid dome
or have a block recovery time where you can't block for x seconds after blocking
quiet hearth
See that is not what was said, now it makes sense, even if I dont agree with it
waxen nymph
Maybe the system can be improved, but I quite like it
turbid dome
words are hard
quiet hearth
It's certainly not bad, I just dont like having to scale two different things to make the one good
waxen nymph
Bo Anarchy > 30% Block Chance OO
waxen nymph
It's certainly not bad, I just dont like having to scale two different things to...
Thing is they usually come together and/or dont compete with each other
Like this one on Ring/Gloves
Or Shield prefixes. They dont have a lot of option making a shield always going for Block Chance + Block Effect (this is the weak point of the system imo)
warped night
T7 should be 5% block chance cmv
waxen nymph
Also Block Effect DR% go up very quickly and plateau super quick too
You really dont need a lot of investment to get to 60-70% DR
quiet hearth
The investment is pretty big, it's not something you can get that easy
Getting t7s aint THAT easy. I wish we had more of it on the tree, the nodes we have for it are uh, not great
turbid dome
True
warped night
EHG is afraid of block
quiet hearth
I mean, it's a tricky thing, because too much and it's overwhelmingly powerful, but like half an inch the other way and it isnt worth using.
Theyve done a pretty good job, it's just my monkey brain not liking having to figure out multiple numbers.
tardy mirage
f
alpine canopy
I guess the difference is the small one needs the riposte to hit
The small one is "on hit", so if you hit 5 enemies with it, you can get 5 iron blades
I swapped off rive to use vengeance for my flame burst build, and iron blade honestly works super great for it
turbid dome
dang
quiet hearth
Ive never gotten iron blade to feel good in anything Ive done
turbid dome
if only it wasn't a less than 50% chance
warped night
there's way too many nodes and none of them do anything particularly influential
and full investment would require you to give up on the best nodes in vengeance
turbid dome
5 points for 50% chance hurts my soul to read
warped night
I finally landed on a setup for my dw fg that feels good
started with multistrike and forge strike on cd, now after a few iterations I'm on rive w/ forge strike spam
turbid dome
run from it, hide from it, it doesn't matter. Rive shows up all the same
warped night
it's the only of the three skill they've bothered touching "recently" 😔
gotta say I'm really loving the rive vacuum with the 1,2,1,2,3 combo
turbid dome
yee
warped night
makes melee feel sooooooooooo much better
warped night
yeah imo rive is like a peak skill tree
all it needs is fire and void conversion tbh
warped night
and multistrike and vengeance have ..................
turbid dome
oh yeah also a unique dot that's base dmg is your flat weapon damage
turbid dome
iron blades
multi strike has some good stuff
a casual 50% phys pen is nothing to scoff at
multi strike's problem is that it just feels mid to swing
turbid dome
like if you could get this to 100% chance and not a 3 second cooldown it would be cool
warped night
"hit, okay now I gotta move an inch, hit again, okay move again"
I'm just glad I get to use these
turbid dome
this node is cool in theory but is so weird to actually try to think if its worth it or not
like I gotta echo, and then that echo's use of multi strike gets +1 or +2 swords
turbid dome
I'm just glad I get to use these
thats a juicey eye of reen
turbid dome
lmao wut
warped night
wait
hold on I'm dumb nvm
didn't realize that holding only a single weapon on the offhand counted as dual wielding as far as that passive is concerned, so I thought I was missing attack speed
warped night
yeah
tranquil nimbus
when healing hands is a melee attack, does it get the tag and can it benefit from all things that interact with melee attacks? like an idol with fire penetration for melee attacks
warped night
it does, yeah. initially it was bugged and did not, but that has since been fixed
hitting 100+ reen stacks in the big event packs is pretty amusing
warped night
oh cool. the threshold bonus for wielding a sword from weapons master doesn't actually work
or at least it isn't showing on the character sheet
quiet hearth
when healing hands is a melee attack, does it get the tag and can it benefit fro...
yes
alpine canopy
this node is cool in theory but is so weird to actually try to think if its wort...
Nah, not worth it. MS blows up packs just fine, it needs stuff that helps with single target. Also I just realized the help text explaining echoes is off, they appear 0.5s later not 1s.
Oh and the classic, "unless become VK"
turbid dome
Nah, not worth it. MS blows up packs just fine, it needs stuff that helps with ...
yeah
fluid gulch
Hello sentinel pros! Had a question about warpath builds. I noticed that if I wanna do warpath, I can go vk or paladin. What's my main consideration deciding which mastery to pick?
warped night
preferred damage type, if you'd like to be smite instead of melee, if you think echos are cool
turbid dome
Hello sentinel pros! Had a question about warpath builds. I noticed that if I wa...
if you want echos go void knight, paladin gets a lot more smite support and dot support
fluid gulch
Ahhh ok so vk would be relying on the warpath dmg, whereas pally would be proccing smite to dmg and or stack dots?
turbid dome
both can proc smite, but pally gets more support for it, both can do well tho
warped night
pally can also do fire melee, though vk is better at melee damage
turbid dome
pally also gets shield stuff easier
but VK also gets flat spell dmg from vitality 🤔
its a lot of different things to think about that add up
fluid gulch
From what I'm hearing, vk is more offenses, and pally more defensive, in general. And then gearing wise what I go for and what to target (and what I have)
Like if I have a good world splitter it sounds like going vk makes life better? Haha
warped night
world splitter isn't very good for warpath
but in general for vk you're going to be going for void gear, and for pally you're going to be going for fire gear
cobalt blade
world splitter isn't very good for warpath
< the odd one here 
Feels like I am the outcast of the VK gang, Engi
warped night
I mean if channel cost was taken into account for its bonuses it would be good for warpath, but it isn't. better off using a hollow blade, dreamthorn, or maw
fluid gulch
Ah true it's less for the big spell cast but for the huge melee dmg, is what I'm thinking
But clearly I'll need to do more research before I start my 5th 1.1 char lol
cobalt blade
Feels like I am the outcast of the VK gang, Engi
tranquil nimbus
is manifest armor very survivable end game?
If I want to plan my build around having the manifest armor being a stun-bot, can I afford to try to get Somnia for stun duration, or do I really need to get Decayed Skull to keep it alive with dot mitigation
rain elk
I had one hell of a Judgment build before the cycle start, but apparently some of the judgement talents have been changed and it no longer works the same
one of the keys was that Judgment would be an aura around me rather than a circle on the ground
anyone have suggestions for adjustments to the build?
Hand of Judgment unique is a key part of it
waxen nymph
What got changed is the Mana Consumption node. It gives less "More Dmg per Mana consumed". But to compensate the Added Dmg Effectiveness got buffed.
Tldr: it should work like before. You might have a little less Dmg than before
rain elk
well, that is probably part of it right there
my passives got reset for some reason
waxen nymph
Passives tree or Judgement Skill tree?
leaden crater
Should I hard cast smite on my Aberoth Command build or still use multistrike lol.
kind crown
Morning! Is there anything else giving Parry except 2H wepon affix?
kind crown
Yeah thx I know, I meant beside weapon slot. Sorry if this was confusing. The FG Masters of arms node does but incompatible with 2H
Using swordcather +t7 affix (ideal) you could get up to 20%
But i don't see how to get beyond 20%
waxen nymph
Parry is super new still
kind crown
i mean it negates the hit so its pretty strong
waxen nymph
Using swordcather +t7 affix (ideal) you could get up to 20%
Max rolled SwordCatcher + t7 Parry is 35%
waxen nymph
???
waxen nymph
Thats the "base" affix
Regarding where it goes it gets multiplied
kind crown
oh
waxen nymph
An Affix on a 2h rolls higher than on a 1h
waxen nymph
Same with Body Armor and other piece of Armor btw
waxen nymph
kind crown
Indeed
waxen nymph
And idols too
kind crown
yeah that it noticed
but ther it kinda makes sense as it would be a scaling per "box"
waxen nymph
kind crown
Still early stages but that's what i m going for
waxen nymph
Rive ? With the Ignite Consume ?
kind crown
Rive for bosses and mana regen
waxen nymph
??
kind crown
waxen nymph
Rive and Forge Strike !
kind crown
yup
waxen nymph
👀
kind crown
Rive gives repack, mana regen and spawns weapons on bosses
waxen nymph
1.2.3.4.5 for your skills !!!
turbid dome
scroll down on the affix page to see the scaling for different items it can go on
waxen nymph
What kind of heresy is that !
turbid dome
I use the f1, f2, f3, f4, f5 keys
waxen nymph
I use the f1, f2, f3, f4, f5 keys
I dont believe you
kind crown
the key mapping xD
waxen nymph
turbid dome
I dont believe you
have you ever played the ARPG called Fate
waxen nymph
Nope
turbid dome
thats how you picked which spell to cast
it was also the first video game I ever played
kind crown
tbh 4 is autocast and 5 is on right click so i only use 1,2,3 actively
waxen nymph
thats how you picked which spell to cast
Thats how D2 used to do it, but you could scroll the wheelmouse if you had one
turbid dome
you can feed your pet dog/cat different fish to transform them into different monsters
turbid dome
Thats how D2 used to do it, but you could scroll the wheelmouse if you had one
honestly no idea if I can scroll wheel it, I didn't have a scroll wheel as a kid and I never thought to try now
waxen nymph
I use A Z E R + Right Click like a Regular French person
cobalt blade
What kind of heresy is that !
turbid dome
idk what that is but given how cursed half my keybinds end up you have nothing to be sad about
turbid dome
https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-war-hammer-40k-gif-9829547
wiccckkkeeeeeeddd
cobalt blade
Engiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
waxen nymph
Its funny how the previous games you played influence how you play
kind crown
yeah
waxen nymph
idk what that is but given how cursed half my keybinds end up you have nothing t...
French keyboard are not QWERTY but AZERTY
Unless you are from Switerzland and somehow you have QWERTZ
kind crown
even on LoL i use 1 2 3 4 and E and R instead of F and G
turbid dome
ah
turbid dome
even on LoL i use 1 2 3 4 and E and R instead of F and G
I use Q 2 E 3 for my lol key binds
then R F for summoners
kind crown
thats i fcked up
waxen nymph
F for Flash
This is the way
cobalt blade
OG Dota keybind da best
turbid dome
F is for flash
turbid dome
OG Dota keybind da best
I now need to find my meepo keybind set
turbid dome
Flash is obviously on R
flash was on F but was the left summoner spell slot
cobalt blade
press R to flashlight, press F to reload
turbid dome
R for right summoner spell slot of course
turbid dome
nope flash goes on leftside
kind crown
HERESY
turbid dome
no u
kind crown
😂
turbid dome
also EHG can we get meepo as a last epoch class
I wana control 5 characters at the same time
cobalt blade
buy aghanim
turbid dome
horrible idea
cobalt blade
:>
turbid dome
a weapon that gives a random skill from any class as a new skill for you when you have the weapon equiped
you can also specialize in it
^ this is the "horrible idea" wicked not your thing
cobalt blade
turbid dome
why were you happy about it being a horrible idea
cobalt blade
for the lul
turbid dome
understandable
cobalt blade
like how peepo dont use worldsplitter for warpath
turbid dome
the lack of a spin/warpath emote makes this a sad day
waxen nymph
Anyone knows if that Heal Effect from Att get Added as Spell Dmg for HH ?
turbid dome
I'd assume yes but I haven't tested it
hit a target dummy with no gloves and then again with the judgement gloves and see if your dmg goes up
or any slot with an item that just gives attunement
waxen nymph
TIL
Orion Ring cast Sigils Specced even without Sigils on your Bar
turbid dome
ye
ring + the only 1 sigil node is nice cause you can just toss it from your bar completely
alpine canopy
Anyone knows if that Heal Effect from Att get Added as Spell Dmg for HH ?
I'm pretty sure yes, at least all the other skills with similar effects do work that way
waxen nymph
My VK will be very pleased
chilly peak
Uffff, it's the little things that come together to make that helm really nice!!
chilly peak
Ye open prefix, both suffix already nice, but low enough to give you room, really decent implicit...
waxen nymph
- Lvl DOrb (I have it on my current helm) is not super useful
Maybe Lvl to Anomaly or VR
Or that Hybrid Void Spell Dmg
Turns out its 5 Flat and 47-60% Inc when Lvl to Anomaly and VR also gives 41-60% Inc with +2 lvl
The hybrid doesnt look too sexy now
turbid dome
I'd probably just slap increased echo dmg onto it
waxen nymph
Increased Echo Dmg when a Skill Echoed ?
turbid dome
yeah
its a fairly large %increased dmg that works for most things a vk is going to be doing
it is best for rive and its 80% echo chance
also that it can be 330% increased dmg on a chestplate at T7
220% on a helmet at T7 is respectable
turbid dome
fair enough
waxen nymph
For Rive sure
turbid dome
it is giga juicey for a world splitter with the gauranteed echos
waxen nymph
YES !
waxen nymph
For my Void Wizard not so much
turbid dome
I was meaning with infinite bonk erasing strike splitter
turbid dome
with es's gauranteed echo meaning every swing gets at least one hit with an up to 550% increased dmg
turbid dome
I thought you meant rive lmao
lol
waxen nymph
Are they the same kind of Echoes BTW?
turbid dome
only difference I've noticed is that they consume mana
so I assume thats what mike meant by them being different
in the same way we have 4 different void beam sub skills, its easier to have different types of echos for each way to trigger them
regular echos, es gauranteed echos, warpath echos
slow plaza
no he specifically said that them being called echoes was wrong and they need to change the terminology
or something like that
turbid dome
slow plaza
Yep its ok we all think its dumb
turbid dome
does my silly 550% increased dmg not affect them then
slow plaza
its ok legacy is banned from existance for me
turbid dome
I'm scared to open my stash in legacy
same in POE too
side thought: has EHG said anything about wasd movement in LE
chilly peak
side thought: has EHG said anything about wasd movement in LE
I think I remember a statement from Mike a few weeks ago on that. Something like they are on it, but it may take a while.
But take it with a grain of salt, I'm not personally interested in that, so I may mix things up. Just remembered when I read your question
turbid dome
I think I remember a statement from Mike a few weeks ago on that. Something like...
taken with a grain of salt, I just like wasd more than mouse cause my wrist starts to hurt after a bit
living on a mountain and being clumsy has not helped my physical health (gravity hates me)
chilly peak
taken with a grain of salt, I just like wasd more than mouse cause my wrist star...
If you get happy with WASD, another one with his controller and myself with a mouse - why not? 😄 No need to explain further
turbid dome
I get a weird amount of attacks/insults for saying I want/like wasd in arpgs (and to clarify no one here does this, yall are great dudes)
like my friends, calm down you can still play perfectly fine with a mouse
chilly peak
I have a problem when modern games try to work on everything and are clunky everywhere in the end. If you make a PC game, and then "translate" that to console or vice versa, why not?
As long as more people are happy, that can't be wrong in my eyes
turbid dome
fair point
alpine canopy
I get a weird amount of attacks/insults for saying I want/like wasd in arpgs (an...
Some people sure are weird lol
waxen nymph
I just had a new idea for Abyssal Echoe with Impair the Weak
Maybe we can use Rive and HH or Warpath ( now that you can regen mana with it) with Instant VC
turbid dome
waxen nymph
Impair the Weak is the node where you deal 5% of AE dmg per hit but you don't consume AE on hit
turbid dome
hmm
can we somehow use iron blades to proc this a bunch
like with deflection to make them bounce around and proc it a bunch
orchid hazel
oooh it's dread! - should i ping him? 😉
waxen nymph
can we somehow use iron blades to proc this a bunch
Maybe but I feel like Rive would be better
More AS and you can also get the shock wave
For extra hit and reach
turbid dome
on one hand yes rive is almost certainly better
on the other hand actually using iron blades
alpine canopy
Iron blades work well for flame burst, but that AE thing doesn't require melee hits nor paladin so rive probably has too much going for it
extra echoes, sword beam, stupidly high base attack speed, and probably other stuff
tardy mirage
double 2h
turbid dome
if only multi strike could smack your the thing your hitting
turbid dome
*double 2h*
an incredibly powerful node that makes me question why it needs to exist
tardy mirage
an incredibly powerful node that makes me question why it needs to exist
nah it should exist
but it shouldnt be rive exclusive
it should be something something forgeguard
warped night
pull a d3 crusader and allow 2h + shield
tardy mirage
pull a d3 crusader and allow 2h + shield
well i was thinking cuz this is close to dual weilding 2 handers xD
tardy mirage
ye but then you leave pally sadge
turbid dome
pally gets a holy extra slot for 2 one handers and a shield
warped night
yes I would like maw + world splitter combo thank you
tardy mirage
well its not true double 2 hander its double stat with 1 2 hander owo
alpine canopy
It also only doubles specific stats
tardy mirage
big brain play ... manifest armour no longer spawns but increases and reductions to weapon and armour mods from the tree effect you instead
turbid dome
nah I wana roll up on abboreth with two maws
tardy mirage
xD
tardy mirage
nah I wana roll up on abboreth with two maws
double 1 shot
turbid dome
*big brain play ... manifest armour no longer spawns but increases and reduction...
give manifest armor a node that turns it into a mech transformation
turbid dome
hit 0 hp and forge guard bails out
warped night
two sword catchers for +12 melee skills
turbid dome
gotta smack it with melee attacks to fix the mech
tardy mirage
gotta smack it with melee attacks to fix the mech
poor bucket of bolts
summons as mounts owo
turbid dome
tower knight gaming
tardy mirage
we could have the beastmaster of the party become the packmule and let everyone in the party ride on his wolves xD
or sitting on the back of your golem
turbid dome
I'm still of the opinion that each sentinel mastery should have a transform skill as part of it
turbid dome
void knight gets a void corruption one, we see this kind of thing in the campaign a lot (embrace the void 
)
paladin gets a divine/angel one
forge guard gets a mech
turbid dome
more so because a capstone style of transformation would allow for a lot more build specialization that the current sentinel lacks and I don't see a complete rework really helping unless they turn sentinel into runemaster 2.0
ie void knights could lean into becoming a void wizard, a more standard void melee vk, or one that focuses on pure phys dmg (weird half redeemed thing I guess?)
tardy mirage
probably wont happen for the same reason that mage dont get a summon
tardy mirage
nah they all busted xD
lich gets second life bar and beastmaster gets full mana reset xD
druid
alpine canopy
tower knight gaming
Let's just get 2h shields lol
turbid dome
two handed shields would be fun
tardy mirage
but ye its whatever ... ill play it still kek
still think forgeguard should be the one with gear stat manipulation cuz hes litterally crafting all his stuff xD
even his minions were hammered away by him xD
her
fudge i forget
alpine canopy
tho og sentinel was a she (I think)
Yeah, it's the forgotten knight
turbid dome
look at this handsome dude
tardy mirage
to be fair once you actually start playing you cant even see your char under the armour models xD
turbid dome
Yeah, it's the forgotten knight
I forgot about that part
alpine canopy
It was "knight" though
alpine canopy
look at this handsome dude
And still no hide helm option 😔
alpine canopy
Shaved for sure, you can kinda see the hairline in that pic above
turbid dome
I thought that was more like peach fuzz, which bald dudes can have
tho if that means we can eventually get hair style mtx for sentinel I'm all for it
alpine canopy
turbid dome
basically
warped night
I just wish I could choose which visual my forge strike uses
I have anvil and spear and it takes spear and that looks kinda lame compared to the hammer and anvil
turbid dome
skill mtx when
EHG let me throw more money at you
also the lack of a juggernaut/beefy dude mtx armor set makes me sad
let me be BEEF
spiral magnet
Ah. But that and lunge are the only 2 abilities that work with spear. There's way more options for shield and sword or axes
waxen nymph
True
Hopefully we get more Spear support in 1.2 (Massive Sentinel rework/revamp coming)
spiral magnet
Oh good. So there's hope at least
sturdy kettle
alright. Now I'll back with Forge Guard
saw a video which making the Smelter reach 40mil damage
how can i do that? 😂
now i'm having 0 knowledge about Sentinnel
waxen nymph
It was probably the bugged version and now its fixed
sturdy kettle
It was probably the bugged version and now its fixed
wow, what bugged?
but even with that, Can Smelter still good?
I kinda hate the "you spin me right round" style of Sentinnel
sturdy kettle
yeah, uncapped
waxen nymph
but even with that, Can Smelter still good?
Its medium + I would say
Dread made a very nice build with it
With World Splitter
sturdy kettle
Can i have his build?
waxen nymph
Check youtube
sturdy kettle
Dreadful?
waxen nymph
Dreadful Smelter Wrath should show it
sturdy kettle
well i've seen his video already
World Splitter build is the best for Forge Guard right now?
damn almost everyone build with Abyssal Echoes
tardy mirage
I have anvil and spear and it takes spear and that looks kinda lame compared to ...
on that train of thought if you use hammer throw with a tool other than a hammer it would be nice if the hammers took the base shape of the tool
turbid dome
*on that train of thought if you use hammer throw with a tool other than a hamme...
If you put ravenging aura onto the hammers they should get a void sphere haphazardly duct taped to it
tardy mirage
lol
tardy mirage
If you put ravenging aura onto the hammers they should get a void sphere haphaza...
or purple fire aura effect around them xD
turbid dome
Gimmie a node that makes a devouring orb move with my hammer throw
using d orbs tree
sturdy kettle
these are skills that i want to use
any problem with these?
focuz on highest damage & tanky, health regen
waxen nymph
Gimmie a node that makes a devouring orb move with my hammer throw
We have that at home
sturdy kettle
...
turbid dome
See I want to use that with the hammers for a solar system build
turbid dome
these are skills that i want to use
any problem with these?
Other than smelters wrath being kinda mid it looks good
sturdy kettle
Other than smelters wrath being kinda mid it looks good
damn smelter become useless now...
sturdy kettle
yeah 150% is too smol
turbid dome
Big charge bonk shall return to us one day
sturdy kettle
so... which Master is best for Sentinnel right now?
I don't really like the "Spin me right round" play style
turbid dome
Vk has infinite bonk
But sent as a whole is kinda mid until next cycle with the sentinel rework
sturdy kettle
next cycle will be 1.8? xD
turbid dome
tardy mirage
See I want to use that with the hammers for a solar system build
problem is by the time you cast everything about half of it will be gone
turbid dome
problem is by the time you cast everything about half of it will be gone
Not if the orb is auto casted when you throw a hammer and is connected to it with duct tape
tardy mirage
lol
warped night
does anyone know if divine bolts get the hh electrify nodes?
quiet hearth
they dont
waxen nymph
I don't think they do
warped night
damn that's super lame
I wanted to something like electrify direct cast smite w/ melee electrify healing hands for divine bolts procs
and use aurelis
could probably still work, but sad that divine bolts won't pick those nodes up
tardy mirage
if you take the HH passive for divine bolts pretty sure everything that those effect also gets shared with pally mastery tree bolts
warped night
unfortunately it's not everything, which is why I was asking about the electrify ones specifically
that node is super confusing and vague
quiet hearth
yeah some things need an extra word or too in the tooltip for clarification
tardy mirage
f
warped night
well that settles that #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message
autumn knot
yay the T7 hybrid life landed (sadly no T5 movespeed prefix but oh well))
went from 3300 life to 3700 lol
turbid dome
I mean it comes with 30% ms on it
tardy mirage
well that settles that https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/414298693...
gg
turbid dome
at least its not a pair of boots without ms
autumn knot
haha yeah
tardy mirage
I mean it comes with 30% ms on it
now go for 60
autumn knot
I don't need to be moving that fast anyway
turbid dome
now go for 60
I got darkstrides
tardy mirage
lol
autumn knot
was running these before
tardy mirage
owo 65
warped night
losing move speed feels awful
autumn knot
ye but since im playing HC, I'd rather take an extra 400 life lol
warped night
being able to move out of the way faster is a defensive layer 😉
autumn knot
what are you playing in hc anyway
bleed hammerdin. lv 93 atm
tardy mirage
tried ... died in act 9 after going afk kek
turbid dome
119 + 120 flat melee void dmg with darkstrides .2 per added melee void = 47.8% ms
we faaaaaaaaaaaaast
oof
tardy mirage
i have the gloves in hc bank tho xD
turbid dome
yay
tardy mirage
ye i had just gotten them and put them up when i decided to warp to majassa temple place and afk kek
leaden crater
What specialized skills should I move around when I swap to Aberoth’s Command?
Current skills: Smite, Multistrike, Lunge, Erasing Strike, Healing Hands
autumn knot
ye i had just gotten them and put them up when i decided to warp to majassa temp...
I've died to afk so many times in hc in other games lol
autumn knot
oh wow I actually died while mapping
my aurora's time glass activated and I still died within 1 second because of those gorgon poison tornado thingies
literally 1 shot me 3 times over within 1 second lol
that's surprising
tardy mirage
lol yeeeeeeee
turbid dome
dots will do that to ya
autumn knot
yeah I had 24% armor applies to dot but was unable to get a good enough chest piece or get the experimental affix on the gloves
actually insane
lol
ramping + affliction oof
welp. time to go again ;_;
tardy mirage
gl lol
turbid dome
thats a warcrime laser right there
autumn knot
Thanks. Ripping at lv 93 is a giant time waster
Character was so tanky too. Figured my aurora’s would give me enough of a safety net. Nothing’s even come close to damaging me this whole time. Guess I now know what else to watch for
turbid dome
thats just how it bee in an arpg
tardy mirage
ye its pain
robust lake
That gains power once in combat mod is ridiculous. I've died to it recently too. I've apparently ran past a spider with it, then on my way back to check lizard loot that poisonous pest just instagibbed me through 4k hp and 120% psn res and block cap. So either it doesnt reset or just keeps ramping regardless?
autumn knot
That gains power once in combat mod is ridiculous. I've died to it recently too....
It was a shocker to me that I’ve been more or less face tanking 250 corruption everything without my aurora even popping. Then I touched that poison tornado for half a second, rolled out of it, and it did 3700 x 3 worth of damage to me. Had a ton of defensive layers including overcapped poison res, high block chance/effectiveness, etc.
The ramping is insane. Maybe it doesn’t reset but only continues ramping when it’s in combat again
tardy mirage
too abuseable lel
robust lake
shred res on top of natural shred helped I guess q_q welp you live and you learn
autumn knot
Timeglass heals to max and gives ward equal to amount healed too. Never have I seen any damage like that in all of my LE experience
tardy mirage
but they didnt live xD
autumn knot
shred res on top of natural shred helped I guess q_q welp you live and you learn
Yeah too bad it’s not that practical to read monster mobs all the time while mapping trying to look out for one specific combo lol
autumn knot
but they didnt live xD
My new characters will live on in the dead ones’ name lol
tardy mirage
nice XD
autumn knot
Welp, now I know why some players still manage to die with a more or less perfectly optimized build
robust lake
dots biggest offender still, I can leech through T4 310+ dmg Lightless Arbor spores on heart phase yet I die to some spooder in sub-350 mono q_q
tardy mirage
dots biggest offender still, I can leech through T4 310+ dmg Lightless Arbor spo...
leech dont help much tho when you have nothing to leech on anymore xD
robust lake
yeah that contributed 100% lol
turbid dome
such is death when you use titan heart
robust lake
I'm still tanky without it tho
tardy mirage
ye
robust lake
I aint even using Titan Heart, had 290% heal effectiveness, ~250hps and endurance on top of leech :p 20% implicit eternal gauntlets + 14% regalia + poison taken as phys
14 stacks of psn = deadge xdd
robust lake
120% :D I usually aim at around 150 but that didn't live up to that point
turbid dome
That’s enough res to stop the poison negative poison res effect to actually do anything
Dude was just a beast
robust lake
yeah, you win some you lose some :D
turbid dome
robust lake
just press holy aura yep
autumn knot
The loot rng on my latest character was kinda bad. Couldn’t find a good body piece or the gloves with the experimental affix
And yeah ain’t no way I’m reacting in time to cleanse myself of that 1 second 1 shot that did a total of 300% of my HP pool lol
tardy mirage
just press holy aura yep
true forgot that passive
tardy mirage
And yeah ain’t no way I’m reacting in time to cleanse myself of that 1 second 1 ...
lets be honest ... even if you could the game wouldnt even be able to register it in time
autumn knot
Truuuee
Aren’t they porting the whole game into a new engine for 1.2 or something?
Heard it’s supposed to fix lag, frame drops, and smoothness
Like interacting with the stash and it taking 5 seconds to open up
alpine canopy
does anyone know if divine bolts get the hh electrify nodes?
Pretty sure it does, except for the important part (the spread)
I don't think I had any generic spell electrify chance (not sure any even exists), and I was definitely applying electrify with them
alpine canopy
Aren’t they porting the whole game into a new engine for 1.2 or something?
New engine is too strong of wording. They are updating Unity from 2019.1 to 2021.
turbid dome
if divine bolt counts as a spell mad alchemist's ladle can apply it
alpine canopy
ah yeah, that is a source I never think about
turbid dome
but other than that no
alpine canopy
Testing > dev answer
warped night
what does this forwarding look like 🤔
well I plan on trying it out anyways at the very least. not really happy with my hammer smite pally after the keen idol change
gonna need to do some slams
tardy mirage
lol
warped night
serapth blade hh cast off smite can cast divine bolts from the pally melee hit passive, right?
alpine canopy
Tested again just to make sure I'm not misremembering, divine bolt absolutely gets electrify chance and the spread does not work. The electrify damage one is harder to test with my quick setup, but it seems like it might work.
alpine canopy
serapth blade hh cast off smite can cast divine bolts from the pally melee hit p...
Yes, each melee hit has a chance to proc
it won't work for the divine bolt proc in HH though of course, gotta directly cast HH for that
tranquil nimbus
Orian's Sun Seal.... good item? or gear tax for using sigils
I can't run sigils without it, but with a perfect duration orians, 2 4x1 idols with +6 duration each, and 5 skill points invested in duration on the tree, i think that gets me to 49 seconds if my math is right
do I need 40 seconds or 50 seconds to keep 5 sigils up?
I think I'm one second shy of 100% uptime if I understand how it works correctly
with that much investment, would i be better off just not using sigils at all? seems like I'm devoting a lot of gear to make it playable for me. Could i get a better RoI speccing a different skill maybe?
cobalt blade
Never did the duration math but I can get 3 stacks idling. Also, if you dont have >50% mana by the time it proc at 10th sec, it skips and you have to wait the next 10th sec
I have never used any sigil duration idol 
tranquil nimbus
really, it skips? oof
so far I havent been having mana issues, and am going attunement, so maybe that little gotcha wont matter to me
cobalt blade
Mine skip many times cuz of the way i use mana, so i have to manually recast . Juggling volatile reversal and mana regen
waxen nymph
Honestly I just put it on and keep 3 Sigils. No need to invest more than that to got to 5 Sigils
I even have enough pts I can get 4 sigils for a few seconds and then go back to 3
waxen nymph
Wicked!!
sturdy kettle
double weilding is better or two hands better for Void Knight guys?
i'm wondering which way i should play
waxen nymph
Depend on the skill you want to do
Erasing Strike > 2h
Warpath > the most popular is 2h but dw is also very good
For Spells I like DW
sturdy kettle
i'm following a Erasing Strike build
don't know which skills should be remove to replace Warpath
waxen nymph
None because Warpath and ER don't really have synergy together
sturdy kettle
None because Warpath and ER don't really have synergy together
Do i need the Crit chance?
saw ppl don't have crit chance but everyhit they can get Crit
what is the skill/passive relate to that?
weary wren
Its because of their weapon it gives crit chance based on mana cost
alpine canopy
Either that or void cleave's buff that makes your next ES crit
I think it's common to use VC -> ES until you have all the things in place to set up world splitter for pure ES spam
alpine canopy
The very bottom-left one (or search erasing strike)
sturdy kettle
The very bottom-left one (or search erasing strike)
yeah. But actually i don't use it xD
tranquil nimbus
if you convert Consecrated Ground into the aura, is the Aura affected by boosts to Consecrated Ground on the tree?
also, does the aura not stack? you can remove judgement's CD, so if you cast 2 in a row do you not get 2 stacks of the aura?
waxen nymph
if you convert Consecrated Ground into the aura, is the Aura affected by boosts ...
Yes the Aura is basically the Ground following you
waxen nymph
also, does the aura not stack? you can remove judgement's CD, so if you cast 2 i...
99% sure it doesn't stack
tranquil nimbus
oof
alpine canopy
also, does the aura not stack? you can remove judgement's CD, so if you cast 2 i...
No, aura does not stack. New aura cancels the previous - does not trigger end effects (like that explosion on end node)
chilly flame
I don’t know how active this chat is anymore but does anyone know any good Smite Warpath builds? I have 4LP bleeding Heart (amulet) & 4LP Orian’s Sun Seal (ring), that I would like to use on the build. Please &thank you
turbid dome
Paladin + smite while warpathing node + throw axes while warpathing relic +smite on throwing hit idols
real crown
wanting to try a sentinel, wich one of the masteries would you guys recommend?
tardy mirage
wanting to try a sentinel, wich one of the masteries would you guys recommend?
depends ... if you want less gear pressure go pally ... if you want more fun go void knight ... if you are a masochist go forge guard
real crown
but you find the void the most fun?
tardy mirage
ye cuz echos xD
real crown
do people actually want pally in party for the buffs?
real crown
lmao
real crown
i'm pretty new so i don't know
i've read on some sites that they're super valuable for party play xd
real crown
is that why they're not gear reliant?
and doesn't that mean they scale harder than the void knight since they have so much free stats?
tardy mirage
ye you get like 40% ele res and 20% poison res ... it becomes a cleanse button ... and you get more endurance dmg reduction
real crown
so far i've played a warlock to lvl 90ish so i have no idea what the others do 😄
tardy mirage
not to mention the dmg itself
its like 1-2 pieces of gear worth of free stats
more room on your actual gear for health xD
tardy mirage
probably cuz thats not dmg
while they do have alot they arent a void knight
xD
but ye basically all of holy auras tree is active all the time
and then everything gets doubled for like 4 seconds if you press it
real crown
i mean the tierlists that i see are mostly, S Mage, A Acolyte / Rogue, B Sentinel, C the druid thing
tardy mirage
probably cuz their defense doesnt scale well into later empowereds
tardy mirage
it will get you far but like you wont be pushing 1000 corruption xD
as for rogue ye its pretty squishy but ward and you can just not take damage if you play well
theres a passive on all 3 rogues that give you 100 ward and make the next attack that hit you not do any dmg every so often
the ward is irrelivant but the 1 hit of no dmg is good
real crown
i see
real crown
out of all the masteries wich one would you say has the highest potential?
tardy mirage
ye those are the big 3 rn
real crown
love the playstyle it's just slow xd
tardy mirage
they are pretty new tho so it will take time for the rest to catch up
well sorc isnt new but its basically new kek
real crown
how so?
tardy mirage
they actually gave it a relevant scaler via mana
so it gears completely different from what it used to
real crown
and do they move around fast?
tardy mirage
focus has a passive that can give you 10 seconds of haste
for healing like 500 mana
combined with a high mana pool you can hold it for like 1 second and get the full 10 seconds
i mean its not insane speed but its not slow either
its like free 20-30%
real crown
so speedwise it would be falconer > sorc > lock
real crown
hm
real crown
yeah that's pretty nuts
tardy mirage
ye its nice
real crown
what build do you main?
real crown
because it's immortal?
real crown
i mean i do feel too strong for the monos that i'm clearing on my lock
tardy mirage
if your doing the leveling setup/bleed you basically passively leech soo much ward its hard to die
real crown
i did that while lvling but i switched to torment
tardy mirage
nice
real crown
bought the game last sunday hehe
tardy mirage
op
real crown
already got 40+ hours xD
tardy mirage
bought it during early access/beta or whatever its called
real crown
nice, i've only ever played diablo 3 as arpg
tardy mirage
789 hours xD
tardy mirage
still nothing to my 3k terraria hours
real crown
i haven't played poe yet
i'd like to play poe2 tho
poe 1 is too much at once for a newbie
tardy mirage
as someone who played it for probably the same time as terraria ... ye its rough
real crown
my friend asked me to play it and recommended me this rightous something build
-.- just walking around xd
tardy mirage
500 hours on steam but ive been playing it standalone since 3.11 harvest
its 3.25 rn
real crown
wich one to play xd
tardy mirage
my friend asked me to play it and recommended me this rightous something build
its fun ye i played that
necro owo
nah idk
real crown
but necro is also slow xD
real crown
yeah that's fun xd
tardy mirage
lol
hmmmmm
play falconer, its pretty straightforward ... and if you drop a vial of volatile ice you can play acid flask and have your birb throw it with you
tardy mirage
i think so?
last time i played it was hydrahedron in 1.0
but i think it got nerfed in 1.1
real crown
or does it eventually always cast the same spells anyways
tardy mirage
since it has all these combos
this part was kinda dissapointing
you only ever use 1 or 2 combos on any given build
tardy mirage
ye your forced to specialize hard to make it work ... but if you do you severely limit the different invocations you can use together
tardy mirage
i would imagine that one to have the highest potential
i mean it does pretty well
tardy mirage
because it scales with your char level xD
tardy mirage
why is that falcon so strong
they probably went like ... its a single minion so it has to be better than an arsenel of minions
real crown
he's oneshotting the entire screen lol
tardy mirage
lol
i love falconer ... expecially because the 3 main skills of the class are actually like minion skills
your ordering your falcon on how to fight
which means it also scales on what the falcon itself can do
to be fair that indirectly means it scales off of you but thats besides the point xD
cuz there are passives in the falcon tree that let the falcon share your own stats kek
real crown
yeah the 75% of your stats one
real crown
that's pretty sick
tardy mirage
but ye divebomb, falcon strikes, and ariel assault are litterally your minion attacking which is cool
real crown
i saw a build for sorc on yt that seems to be insane tho
tardy mirage
which one?
real crown
static orb frostclaw
tardy mirage
ye ig
real crown
by frozensentinel
tardy mirage
shhhhhhhhhh jk
real crown
? xd
tardy mirage
ye its good
real crown
does this need to be in my idols for corruption to increase?
real crown
i killed the mono boss without equiping it :/
tardy mirage
gg
real crown
first time doing it so i didn't know how it worked
tardy mirage
it happens kek
real crown
yeah ^^
tardy mirage
ye
real crown
wait i found a shade of oro and it increase the corruption but didn't take the needle
turbid dome
shade always increases your corruption
killing the timeline boss always gives you 1 gaze of
the needle makes it give you 4 gaze of
killing the your first shade in a timeline also grants additional corruption based on your timeline with the most corruption
killing shade will consume up to 4(might be 5?) gaze of to give bonus corruption
@real crown see above
real crown
so the corruption is for that timeline only?
turbid dome
yeah
real crown
ok so i need to pick a good timeline to farm for lock drops then?
turbid dome
but if you grind one timeline up to like 500, the first shade you kill in a different timeline will have a large bonus to corruption
real crown
oh ok
turbid dome
each timeline has a different thing their better at for grinding
each timeline boss has a unique pool of drops from only it
shade also gets more drops as you go up in corruption
turbid dome
gotta pump that number up!
real crown
yeah lol
turbid dome
also if the corruption gets to big and you die constantly, theres a node next to the timeline start to reduce corruption
real crown
i can just go to a different one tho?
turbid dome
yeah
but if your grinding, say, the dark sun for a boss drop you want higher corruption cause bigger drop chance
can't get a boss drop if your not fighting said boss
real crown
ok, i'll have to research wich timeline i need to grind for my lock
i was just trying to do the quests for the faction
turbid dome
ah
turbid dome
<@733831007538643044> should i use
how vital is 3 more points for your fissure
tho tbh acolyte chat would probably have an easier time answer this question
real crown
true ^^
turbid dome
personally, I'd use the one with +3 levels to fissure given it also comes with a ton of res
chilly peak
Poor Acolytes, see dat lousy implicit 😬
turbid dome
i'm just not sure how important int can be
are you using ward
real crown
chilly peak
Int it is ^^
turbid dome
what do you lose if you have -3 points in fissure
real crown
20% spirit frequency and 1 point in this
real crown
i think i can get it but i'd need to spend 30 points into the lich tree
turbid dome
death seal has a funny node that can give a crap ton of necrotic res
chilly peak
How much stable ward do you get from the Int chest?
real crown
i'll check ofter this node
turbid dome
this goofy thing
real crown
@chilly peak it barely gave any more ward
turbid dome
how much ward retention do you have?
real crown
like 40 ward
chilly peak
Ok, did not exoect that one! Should really look into Acolyte one day 🥲
real crown
turbid dome
oh
chilly peak
On my current char that almost 100% retention would be quite a huge step ^^
real crown
warlock is so strong tho xD
chilly peak
Int it is ^^
Me poor fool ^^
real crown
i one shot everything
chilly flame
My torment is farming 719corr
tardy mirage
this goofy thing
wait this thing exists owo
cobalt blade
this goofy thing
Looks hax
turbid dome
Looks hax
its like the one use case for that shield that gives a crap ton of out of combat ward
given you then death seal and then can't have ward
cobalt blade
Me no geddit
tardy mirage
lol
leaden crater
quiet hearth
I really wish Judgement didnt take so long to get to
reef grove
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzDsEYE5KA
will warpath triggers tornado?
quiet hearth
FINALLY
waxen nymph
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzDsEYE5KA
will warpath triggers tornad...
Yes
Keep in mind, Tornadoes procc this way will cost mana
sturdy kettle
@waxen nymph Can you tell me how exactly Anomaly Skill works?
waxen nymph
<@275273870431223808> Can you tell me how exactly Anomaly Skill works?
You press Anomaly
It creates an Aoe around your cursor
Enemies in that AoE disappear
If you press again or the "timer" runs out, enemies come back
That's the base fonctionality
sturdy kettle
sounds like an useless skill without any buffs
disable that function and turn it into buff spells
waxen nymph
In 99% of the case you will take the Bubble
Bubble applies Void Shred, Slow
Also gives CDR, AS /CS, Leech, Crit Chance
cobalt blade
Wait you can press the skill again to bring em back?
sturdy kettle
Wait you can press the skill again to bring em back? <:heavybreathing:5707770486...
of course
cobalt blade
Didn't know. I thought you must wait 5sec. I renamed the skill to "Time Bubble" 
waxen nymph
Yes, you can also "waste" a pt in Immediacy so they come back instant
cobalt blade
and used the node to not bring em away
cobalt blade
oh it do huh
yea i know about numlock but i cant do it with this variant of warpath 
curse me
waxen nymph
How come?
cobalt blade
cuz my mana is always ramping and cycling with VR
also casting sigil
many things i gotta do manually
:<
brave prism
Hey guys, is warpath playable yet or does it still hardcap around 500corruption?
cobalt blade
i am doing 700-800c with warpath
brave prism
got profile link?
cobalt blade
havent murder one yet
wary vessel
Hey folks hows the game nowadays? Havent played LE in months😎
brave prism
plays much smoother
wary vessel
Forge guard is on par with the rest of sentinel
Oh yeah? Its finally been buffed?