🔱┃sentinel

[chilly peak]

There is a helm with Vitality implicit? 🤔

[foggy heron]

Im hoarding so much of them to craft them when I have the level

but I'm getting destroyed in zero corruption

😅

[chilly peak]

Ye, the VK helm, I see ^^

Always brain filtered them out with my Pally pov

[foggy heron]

it's difficult to fit in endurance 😔

[digital surge]

Blinding the targets. Blinded targets cant crit

[compact trout]

With blind do you need to take a node that makes so abyssal decay not consumed on hit or does blind 'linger' after abyssal decay get's consumed?

[honest oyster]

I think the warrior shrines aren't working as intended

[north sinew]

Do we know if they are ever going to fix shield rush?

[arctic tartan]

First try 🥲

[lone verge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bj255XDB

I wanna make sure I'm not missing something. Just got to empowered and my health is just shooting up and down due to leech. I feel like I can't survive, damage isn't really an issue

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 77

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Void Knight (54) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,702, Regen: 34.73/s
▸ Mana: 153.89, Regen: 8.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 44%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 53 Str / 12 Dex / 11 Int / 2 Att / 65 Vit
▸ Resistances: 111% / 45% / 45% / 40% / 80% / 65% / 134%
▸ EHP: 3,600 / 2,769 / 2,769 / 3,440 / 3,600 / 3,272 / 3,600

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 64%, Threshold: 362
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (48)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 49% (2,627)
▸ Block Chance: 2%, Mitigation: 21% (200)

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Smite (24)
• Sigils Of Hope (21)
• Devouring Orb (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Anomaly (20)

Used unique items:

• Palarus's Sacred Light
• Atrophy
• Blood of the Exile
• Orian's Sun Seal

[rigid sandal]

LF TP to Bazar of cof area

[harsh nova]

get hp on the belt and gloves

hp on hp idols are best also

[cobalt blade]

holy fook my mana

[harsh nova]

😆

[lone verge]

HP won't help me when I get two shot. And it isn't even truly a two shot. It's when I have killed the trash and my leech just isn't enough to stop me from dying.
It's like the Path of Exile ES gif where you just see it jetting up and down.

[harsh nova]

that's how all non-ward builds are

you won't hold high hp, you rubberband constantly

you need to raise ur 1 shot survivability and then 2 shots become 3 and 4 shots

smite is also really not good.

you have very little rebound on direct cast smite

[lone verge]

It's not the damage that is the issue. Sure I'm not 1 shotting but that isn't really needed

[harsh nova]

ur damage is ur healing is the point

so yes it is

leech is the best way to survive on a VK

there's a node to leech void damage early in vk tree

[lone verge]

I know, I have it. As well as skills specifically built for leech

[harsh nova]

yeah then u just need higher damage output, healing hands also good

devouring orb is junk

healing hands can give u a bunch of healing

[lone verge]

Yea I've been comnig to that same conclusion

[harsh nova]

palarus is also obsolete after campaign

need one with at least 3 lp if u wanna push with it

you need flat spell damage slammed onto it

[lone verge]

Yea I have one with 2LP and bordline perfect roles. Just trying to get a weapon to slam into it.

[harsh nova]

takes like 10k favor to get a 3lp i legit wouldn't even bother with less

one of the lowest items in the game

[lone verge]

You're talking about MG. I don't play MG

[harsh nova]

no im not

it literally takes 10k CoF favor to get a 3lp palarus

[lone verge]

Explain

[harsh nova]

prophecies

the whole reason ur in cof 😆

[lone verge]

I'm aware of those. But they do not guarantee you getting the item you want.

[harsh nova]

they do when the item is the lowest item in the game

i promise i got a dozen of them an hour in 3lp

it's a lpl 6 lol

[lone verge]

I'll run some then but I have trash luck when it comes to items that I'm specifically looking for.
Though a 3LP does me no good if I don't have an item to slam into it which is what I said above

[harsh nova]

can do prophrecies for the exalted also.....

again takes like 25k favor for a base

the 3lp is easier than the base by far

[lone verge]

I know. I have garbage luck in getting items I need. So I'm not exactly optimistic

[foggy heron]

is X type of dmg taken as phys good ?

maybe with getting lot of armour

[turbid dome]

its good for that resistance

fire taken as phys is extra good if you have Orin's Eye equipped

but its great cause armor is only 70% effective against non-phys dmg

[foggy heron]

tbh I Keep dying on my VK 😭

[turbid dome]

the real question is better defense against a single damage type worth an entire affix slot

[foggy heron]

zero corruption

[turbid dome]

link that build in here

[foggy heron]

is there a way to port it ?

[turbid dome]

do you know last epoch tools?

[foggy heron]

yep I look at the website for uniques

[turbid dome]

go to its build planner -> go to import -> input account name and character name

[lunar hazel]

the effect can be good with high armour but generally you want to fill head/body/idols with other affixes.

[turbid dome]

then hit the save and share button and slap that link in here

[foggy heron]

🤔

they lost me there

[turbid dome]

?

[foggy heron]

oh it works

phew

idk what happenned

maybe I put a space somewhere

[turbid dome]

fair enough

[foggy heron]

so first warning

I kinda tried to make my own build

😅

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QJvzwxxQ

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 82

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Void Knight (73)

General:

▸ Health: 2,353, Regen: 45.86/s
▸ Mana: 184.41, Regen: 8.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 12%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 21 Str / 10 Dex / 3 Int / 3 Att / 72 Vit
▸ Resistances: 87% / 115% / 128% / 95% / 83% / 72% / 111%
▸ EHP: 4,681 / 4,681 / 4,681 / 5,438 / 4,681 / 4,545 / 4,681

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 54%, Threshold: 650
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (40)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 35% (1,597)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 103%

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Erasing Strike (22)
• Volatile Reversal (22)
• Devouring Orb (22)
• Anomaly (22)
• Shield Rush (22)

Used unique items:

• Shadow Beacon
• Swaddling of the Erased

[foggy heron]

it's based around voidbeam, but I need enough dmg with erasing strike to kill little trashs mob to proc voidbeams on clear

shadow beacon gives me lot of amazing stuff, I keep the cd of earsing strike and I just spam devouring orbs in between

I just scale general %void dmg

[turbid dome]

first thing, 1800 ish armor is very low for a sentinel

[foggy heron]

yeah idk how to get more, I keep dying to phys dmg

[turbid dome]

second you have a lot of overcapped resistances

like 150% lightning is twice the cap

[turbid dome]

better armor bases

[foggy heron]

yep I keep shuffling my gear around 😅 I bought new bases (ring, amulet) and crafted on them

just rare gear

[foggy heron]

the good body armour is 86

it gives lot of armour

[turbid dome]

yes but your level 82 in a level 29 armor base

[foggy heron]

yeah, it had good affixes for me so I bought it, was expensive, I didn't pay attention to the base at that time

[turbid dome]

understandable

[foggy heron]

I'll check the other bases

it's tough to not die in empowered mono

[turbid dome]

apocalypse plate is the highest armor you can wear rn

[foggy heron]

same with boots I was waiting for the last base available, bought a random yellow one on the market with a good affixe for me

it gives 185 armour

[turbid dome]

your boots give 8 armor

[foggy heron]

nice :p

I'll upgrade my boots and armour bases

it's not fun to keep dying

[turbid dome]

yeah

[foggy heron]

I don"'t even die to one shot

I just die with lot of hit

especially phys

[turbid dome]

I'd honestly level to 86 in unempowered monos and grab these bases with good affixes

[foggy heron]

tbh I feel a bit lost, handing my suffixe

[turbid dome]

this then will free up all of your crit avoid affix slots

[foggy heron]

I feel so starved

[turbid dome]

leonin helm fixes that

[foggy heron]

I need the helmet for vitality

[turbid dome]

4 open suffixes > 7 vit

[foggy heron]

but I was going to handle it with booots + gloves or weapon (LP)

[turbid dome]

and an open blessing

[foggy heron]

you are probably right

[turbid dome]

if you need vit for the flat void dmg that bad get the horizontal 1x4 idols that can give +7 and the 1x2s that give +3

[foggy heron]

maybe I should just not buy anything to not waste money and grind three more lvl

[foggy heron]

I just need to get to 90 for devouring orbs

[turbid dome]

here let me throw in my wizard vk planner to give you some stuff to think about with this kind of build

I will put this warning here, this is my first time doing a pure wizard vk so idk how great it will turn out

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qdp81mKQ

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Sentinel (31) / Void Knight (67) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 3,976, Regen: 143.28/s
▸ Mana: 116.51, Regen: 10.72/s
▸ Ward Retention: 79%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 33 Str / 3 Dex / 16 Int / 8 Att / 83 Vit
▸ Resistances: 75% / 87% / 87% / 68% / 88% / 99% / 99%
▸ EHP: 12,552 / 12,552 / 12,552 / 22,790 / 12,552 / 12,552 / 12,552

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 865
▸ Armor Mitigation: 76% (8,951)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Fire / Spell, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Anomaly (23)
• Smite (20)
• Sigils Of Hope (22)
• Abyssal Echoes (20)
• Healing Hands (20)

Used unique items:

• Orian's Sun Seal
• Anchor of Oblivion

[foggy heron]

I wanted to use voidbeam but I have to scale enough dmg with earing strike for clear and proccing in trash mobs

so I kinda ended up here

[turbid dome]

yeah this is to give some ideas of how to move forward with the build

[foggy heron]

thanks

I tried hard to get crit immune

so I got it on randoms piece of gear

[harsh nova]

leonine all u need

[turbid dome]

yeah

[harsh nova]

the implicit alone can give 80% crit reduction

[turbid dome]

and a not lvl 26 armor base

[turbid dome]

erm 85%

its stupidly strong

[harsh nova]

yeah it's wild

[foggy heron]

I will grind more level

to equip them

[turbid dome]

that hat is carrying sentinel defense

[foggy heron]

push trhough it

[turbid dome]

you got this

[foggy heron]

I want to keep my gold xD

i keep buying my unique gloves with weavers will

until I get good stuff

[turbid dome]

if your doing that gamba do it on the sentinel relic or the weaver belt

[foggy heron]

I didn"'t know what relic to use

😮

I tried to get endurance but it's tough

to get it

[turbid dome]

the weaver sentinel relic is annoyingly good

[waxen nymph]

You can't convert twice

[turbid dome]

like even with super mid rolls on what the weaver adds its a strong base

[turbid dome]

darn

I thought you could

[harsh nova]

endurance isn't worth building over hp until you can cap the % endurance anyways

until then ur threshold is garbage anyways

[turbid dome]

^^^

[foggy heron]

🤔 is it really that good ?

seems to be a +1 with a bit of armour

[turbid dome]

+1 all ✅

increased armor ✅

dot defense ✅ ✅ ✅

like a mid roll one probably wont be better than an anchor

[foggy heron]

do I need dot defense with the last body armour and amulet ?

[harsh nova]

armor is much higher value than endurance, even for elemental damage

[turbid dome]

given enemy dots are turbo strong right now, yes

[foggy heron]

okay I'll buy one then

endurance is not doing me any good

[turbid dome]

and don't forget since its your armor applying to dots, it still suffers the 70% less effectiveness vs non phys dmg

[foggy heron]

right now xD

I see

[turbid dome]

honestly I'm kinda impressed you reached empowered monos with your current gear

[harsh nova]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYKv4P4Q this is what i was running at 900c so you can compare what kind of defensive layers you'll need

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.4

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (83)

General:

▸ Health: 4,013, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 214.53, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 31 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 41 Vit
▸ Resistances: 84% / 94% / 69% / 75% / 121% / 88% / 72%
▸ EHP: 13,111 / 13,111 / 12,313 / 20,499 / 13,111 / 13,111 / 12,671

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 68%, Threshold: 941
▸ Armor Mitigation: 65% (5,342)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Anomaly (21)
• Rive (25)
• Void Cleave (21)
• Abyssal Echoes (21)
• Volatile Reversal (21)

Used unique items:

• Titan Heart
• Apathy's Maw
• Shattered Chains
• Darkstride
• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip
• Omnis
• Anchor of Oblivion

[turbid dome]

hey

get that unethical titan's heart outa here

[harsh nova]

🚩

[foggy heron]

it's only on the last three mono that I felt it was becoming a bit tough

[harsh nova]

can always drop this idol for more hp

but this is huge damage

like 15%

[turbid dome]

solid build then

[turbid dome]

👀

[harsh nova]

the damage from a single one of those idols is bonkers

[turbid dome]

fear me and my two 4x1 +7 vit and increased armor idols

[harsh nova]

you can get void damage on the bottom also

[foggy heron]

my build is weird but it's quite fun ;p idk what I'm doing though

I hope generic void dmg is good enough

[harsh nova]

need flat more than anything in this game

[turbid dome]

flat ❤️

[harsh nova]

there's basically nothing that compares to flat damage

[foggy heron]

VK gives so much flat

[harsh nova]

does not

[foggy heron]

it's crazy

I played paladin and FG before

didn't have any flat

[turbid dome]

me, walking up with an effective T28 melee void dmg

[foggy heron]

innately

[turbid dome]

[harsh nova]

FG has insane crit support other side

[turbid dome]

paladin has

uhh

[harsh nova]

uhh

[turbid dome]

judgement?

[harsh nova]

yeah lets go with that

[turbid dome]

1 sec I have geninuely no idea whats on the 2nd half of pally's tree

[foggy heron]

best ones I had so far

[turbid dome]

why is this a capstone node for pally

[harsh nova]

they took paladin and said -> nah

[turbid dome]

at least theres bleed support, WITH PAIN FOR GAIN MECHANICS

[harsh nova]

[turbid dome]

where my vk pain for gain

if you say ravenging aura ima be sad

[foggy heron]

ravenging aura looks cool

I can't use it on my build

:/

[harsh nova]

your pain is having no shield and gain is the leech to bring you to 70% capacity of ward classes

[turbid dome]

its cool but lacks like any scaling

[turbid dome]

🤔

vk node: Can't gain ward through normal means -> overleech-ed hp becomes ward + ward has a cap equal to half your maximum life

[foggy heron]

do you have tips for voidbeam ?

[harsh nova]

there are like 6 different void beams

and they all don't scale with each others nodes

[turbid dome]

the last time I tried void beam they were still super bugged

that too

[harsh nova]

also engi, you say my titan heart but i don't even have eternal gauntlets 🚩

bad build smh

[turbid dome]

Missing the secret leather glove tech smh

[harsh nova]

overcapped void res tech 🪕

[turbid dome]

[foggy heron]

first time I do MG and interact a lot with unique

it's pretty fun system 😮

in COF I couldn't really try to get weaver will item and stuff

[turbid dome]

Merchant guild is kinda just better

COF makes my brain make the happy chemical tho

[foggy heron]

COF is cool

after trying MG

I don't see any advantage to COF

:/

[harsh nova]

i don't want to learn other classes to play mine

that's why i don't play mg

also last cycle i did 4k echos, farming isn't really an issue

[foggy heron]

🤔

what is this

there is choices now

or something

[turbid dome]

I work 40 hours a week and am in class 20 hours a week

[lone verge]

Snow

[harsh nova]

i grow weed and work from home 😆

[turbid dome]

You used to have to run some timelines twice to unlock both timelines they connect to

[turbid dome]

Damn

[harsh nova]

part time strimmer also i guess

[turbid dome]

Double damn

[harsh nova]

🥶

[turbid dome]

[foggy heron]

@harsh nova@turbid dome do you know any good uniques for spell + melee (even dot) build ?

[harsh nova]

not really a fan of the split builds for vk

[supple iris]

Feel like I wasted my entire weekend with the wife gone. Important lesson I guess... I need to use an OP season starter to farm for the fun builds I want to play or I'm gonna go insane.

I now understand the whole "season starter" concept.

[harsh nova]

as with all arpgs go mage or go home

[turbid dome]

Going one or the other is normally the best choice

[harsh nova]

the problem with split builds is you can't get enough flat for either to be good enough and ur boss dps sucks

[foggy heron]

yep but I'm forced, it is what it is, working great for now

maybe I can make it work

idk

[harsh nova]

assuming ur trying to beat aberoth at minimum that is

[turbid dome]

for erasing strike focusing melee and just getting good vitality works cause then you actually just kill stuff + the vitality makes the void rifts that spawn do decent damage for clear

[foggy heron]

my only goal is trying to make my build good and go forward

[harsh nova]

okay well you need an end goal or ur going to pivot too much and have to farm 6x the amount of gear

[turbid dome]

aberoth is the final goal of the game rn

other than just limit testing a build

[foggy heron]

I guess that will be my goal kinda

[harsh nova]

the best way to be able to experiment is to push one build for a season start that is trusty and then you can reliably farm whatever random fun stuff you want

running random fun stuff for the season start is toxic

[supple iris]

Yeah, I've learned taht this weekend

[harsh nova]

your resource acquisition rate is too low

[turbid dome]

yeah don't be me and cycle start a pure wizard vk

I'm already swapped back to a melee vk until I get the gear wizard vk wants

[harsh nova]

yeah i can't run my ignite stuff until i get like 4 uniques with slams

[turbid dome]

anomaly as a main skill sadly has to wait

[foggy heron]

tbh my build won't likely survive corruption 20 so

any upgrade I get is a win

can't surive 0 corruption right now

[supple iris]

I mean, my VC + ES VK isn't doing HORRIBLY. Honestly my biggest issue is that on Harbinger fights I have to LOCK THE EFF IN, and that's just... More stress and effor than I want when farming. When torment lock can just lazily slam the bosses with much worse gear and it's chill.

[foggy heron]

😭 whyy

[turbid dome]

once again I ask EHG can you please make the lagon fight harby be in the lower aprt of the arena

I take mental damage from that fight

[harsh nova]

i face tanked every harbinger thorugh 700c 😆

literally stand there and whack em

[turbid dome]

a +4 hammer throw one would probs sell for a decent amount

[turbid dome]

I agree

[foggy heron]

I just bought it, so untradable 😒

[turbid dome]

I still hate those stupid waves when they come horizontally in a horizontal line of an arena

[turbid dome]

wait right

[harsh nova]

for vk the fat man is way harder than the spear lady

[foggy heron]

in this game, endgame build are full unique ?

[harsh nova]

his random void fissures are ball busters

[turbid dome]

I always feel the opposite

[supple iris]

My gear isn't good enough for that... I either have 3k hp and infinite slams, or 3.8k and mana issues...

[harsh nova]

she has zero random attacks

it's legit just a defense check

[turbid dome]

given you effectively just add the affixes from a rare/exalted onto a unique, yeah

[harsh nova]

meanwhile he can rng you out of the fight

[turbid dome]

I've never once felt like his rng actually kills me

I just hit evade and now his giant slow attack doesn't hit me

[harsh nova]

when he spawns 3 balls on me he can eat my shorts

it's an instant death no response

[turbid dome]

unspeced rebuke

👍

[harsh nova]

😆

[turbid dome]

80% DR goes hard

[harsh nova]

i can actually pull AE off my bar in that build and run an unspecced funny enough

[turbid dome]

lol

[harsh nova]

since cast on cleave anyways

[turbid dome]

I know the devs didn't want people to skill swap for bosses

but also unspecced rebuke 👍

[foggy heron]

the T7 roll is so low 😮

[turbid dome]

42% crit multi is still 42% more dmg

[supple iris]

There's a rune that will reroll that...

[harsh nova]

that range is actually pretty small

the difference in min or max is almost nothing

you have some stats that can literally double in value with the range

[foggy heron]

finally after being beaten 4 time by a nemesis, I got my uunique upgraded

[foggy heron]

I just thought 50 crit multi was low

in general

don't be mad at me 😮

[harsh nova]

nope

[foggy heron]

I know on weapon everyone wants flat dmg

[turbid dome]

basically think of crit multi as just saying more damage

[foggy heron]

so any crit multi is meh

:/

[turbid dome]

melee weapons can also get flat crit chance

[harsh nova]

crit multi is the BIS stat for hit builds

you get enough increase damage elsewhere

[turbid dome]

basically if your a hit build you do crits

[foggy heron]

I see

[turbid dome]

void beams are weird cause you use a hit to make them but then the beams are dot dmg

[foggy heron]

I tried to see how to scale dot dmg but I gave up

it doesn't synergise with anything else

[turbid dome]

for most dots, its attack speed

[foggy heron]

tried the unique for cleave

it was great but I lose all my dmg for erasing strike and can't proc voidbeam

[cobalt blade]

Engiiiiii

[turbid dome]

Wiccckckkkeeeeeeeeeeeeeeededdd

I'm eating void soup

[cobalt blade]

I was hepi i got the warpath shrine!

[turbid dome]

yey

[cobalt blade]

but it got some weird interaction

[cobalt blade]

Does it taste purple?

[turbid dome]

looks purple, tastes like a shoe with a side of pins

hey I'm trying to find the upsides to being in the end of time

a river where the fish swim above the water is worth a try

[cobalt blade]

is there such a thing in your abyss

[turbid dome]

I'm calling a red card on your phrasing there

sus

[cobalt blade]

[foggy heron]

there is no T7 crit multi sentinel relic on the market

😅

[turbid dome]

yeah most people use those

instead of selling

good luck on the rest of the rolls

[foggy heron]

so it should be worth a lot

[cobalt blade]

🚩

[foggy heron]

nah I will sell

1M gold let's go

let's pray for luck

[turbid dome]

🙏

[foggy heron]

I think voidbeam shouldn't be dot

it's weird

[turbid dome]

setninel as a whole is weird

[cobalt blade]

Its but also weird, Engiii

[foggy heron]

at least it's better than the druid guy

[cobalt blade]

wadayameannnn... druid is too

[turbid dome]

Druid gets % max health and endurance threshold

[supple iris]

Druid is way better than Sent, don't group them in together

[cobalt blade]

1 🚩 for Brillanty

[foggy heron]

I felt it wasn"'t as good 😮

like synergy between spells

and stuff

[supple iris]

Build issue

Druid at least has some defensive layers

[foggy heron]

I didn't meant it was weak power wise I felt it wasn't as cool to make build with it

[supple iris]

Druid has always been one of hte best classes when it comes to "most viable builds"

[foggy heron]

I see

[supple iris]

Eh, I could kind of see that I guess. There's stuff like tornado werebear though...

[cobalt blade]

but mage and the bird are the brokoro ones

[supple iris]

Don't forget torment lock... Torment lock is insane.

[foggy heron]

my erased cod of sentinel

that abomination

hammer throw now rebuke

wtf

[cobalt blade]

warlock is a mage to me

[turbid dome]

%increased armor, nice

[foggy heron]

huh what is this base

[turbid dome]

Kill a harby with it equipped to get a new implicit line

[foggy heron]

so it's gamba

I see

[turbid dome]

No

[compact trout]

It's fixed

[turbid dome]

Each vengeful base will always add the same line

[cobalt blade]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/search?query=avenged&in_description=1&exact_match=0 they become avenged version

[foggy heron]

okay that nemesis just poofed me

rip

so I will get this

100% of the time

[compact trout]

Yeah

[foggy heron]

nobody wants haste on a weapon though

🤔

[compact trout]

Yeah

[cobalt blade]

gotta go faz

[foggy heron]

if it was frenzy

it would be great

[compact trout]

Some of them are good

[frail grove]

hey folks, i am trying to figure out how to farm corruption. the reason why i need it cause most of the build seems to revolve around getting shades of orobyss gear and hoping i get aboroth.

i am a void knight, sadly, i am trying to get my strongest gear i can

[turbid dome]

go far away from the start of the time line -> kill shade

killing the timeline boss gives you gaze thingies that makes the shade give more corruption

[alpine canopy]

inc effect of it is nice, but yeah not the best nem base

[foggy heron]

lol first time I see a weapon having anti synergy just on implicit

[turbid dome]

I do love mr sceptre

[foggy heron]

so strong

[compact trout]

Bow is decent if you are DoT because it gives you haste and haste effect

[alpine canopy]

!rogue

[heady bone]

The Rogue's still in stealth, but she- nah, just joshing you. The Rogue's in Last Epoch - hope you enjoy!

[cobalt blade]

there is such command?

[alpine canopy]

I do miss when the bot still acted like rogue wasn't in the game for years after she was added lol

[turbid dome]

!sentinel

darn

[compact trout]

Who?

[turbid dome]

the guy who is foolish to wear actual armor

[cobalt blade]

Toast hax! only Toast can do it

[turbid dome]

[alpine canopy]

Nah, only rogue has a command lol since she was the last class to be added

[weary wren]

VK warpath echo is so bugged

[turbid dome]

fair enough

[alpine canopy]

bot used to give an ETA on her release

[weary wren]

u hit them with echo dmg even if they are outside of the echo range

you add the echo hits to your own hits

does look cool though

[alpine canopy]

ooh the mechanical change to warpath bugged out the echoes? 😂

[foggy heron]

@turbid domeI'm getting rolled over so hard I can't even get one level

xD

[turbid dome]

oh god

did you go back to regular monos

[foggy heron]

no but I give up and return there right now

[supple iris]

Omfg, leveling my torment lock after going so hard on VK... I am literally never starting a season non meta ever again haha. But man I wanted to love VK so much.

[weary wren]

i think so yes

[cobalt blade]

OH WAIT ITS TRUE

let me try again in echo after this boss

[weary wren]

just wait until u have 2 echos up and spinning

u can hit like 20-30 times per sec with a 2h spear or mace

already reported through in game btw

[foggy heron]

is there a list somewhere of good value unique ?

the one I need to sell with MG

[cobalt blade]

actually... i cant tell, is it only a 2h spear or mace thing?

[weary wren]

idk I just tried with 2h mace but definitely something is bugged

[arctic tartan]

What vk build did you do?

[cobalt blade]

is it just me or my echo not doing damage?

or like you said, the dmg somehow is inflicted on my damaging skills (double hit)?

on a side note, that was a decayed skill LP 3 lol

[weary wren]

i only just notice it now that the echo doesnt even do dmg at all

its all transferred to ourselfs

no more backtracking

[cobalt blade]

[alpine canopy]

Remember, they made the hitboxes for warpath follow you in 1.1.7

they forgot to make echoes not do that

[supple iris]

VK + ES + Rive then dropped Rive once I had enough mana for infinite ES

[arctic tartan]

Did you get to world splitter and such?

[tardy mirage]

something that would be fun ... if while battle standard was out and doing its cooldown thing the entire skill gets converted to the dash for that entire duration ... with its own like 4 second cooldown ... that way you could use it multiple times per banner placement

[supple iris]

Yep

[tardy mirage]

i mean its limited enough to not be op xD

since you always dash toward the banner

[supple iris]

It clears amazingly, it just dies too easily on harbingers and I have to pay too much attention ;P

[arctic tartan]

Hmm... Link torment lock guide please 😄

[supple iris]

and single target is a little... slow.

[waxen nymph]

That's a sweet mechanic tbh

[supple iris]

I just used the maxroll guide

[tardy mirage]

you mean how echos stand still doing their spin-to-win?

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, I really enjoy it. Especially against the small fast things, they just poof when you touch them

[cobalt blade]

well if my warpath is doing double hit, its kinda cool really

the echo becomes a visual bug

[supple iris]

My pre-reset CoF forment lock dumpsters corruption 450 easier than my much better geared season VK 😦

Easier than he does 340, btw

[tardy mirage]

i mean its not ... the very first hit and second hit might be very close together but after that they sync up to the attack speed lel

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, they stand still, but the "damage" colliders that they spawn to deal their hits appear to now snap to you instead of stay in place

[tardy mirage]

OH

ic

[cobalt blade]

yea double warpath hit rate

[tardy mirage]

thats useful

xD

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, it's mostly a bug in your favor for sure

[cobalt blade]

🤫

being a good Eterra traveler, i IGBR it nonetheless

[alpine canopy]

You guys think Ave is paying attention to this chat?

[cobalt blade]

🦎

[alpine canopy]

it is the weekend after all

[cobalt blade]

she commented here once

[alpine canopy]

Igbert

[cobalt blade]

idk wots that but it looks like a name now

[foggy heron]

damn nemesis really print powerful stuff

[cobalt blade]

print you say

[foggy heron]

got this also

in the same nemesis

got another double exalt too

[alpine canopy]

This is the official™️ name of the bug report tool

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[harsh nova]

kestrel + warpath = goated

[foggy heron]

I'm surprised aqnyone would use this 🤔

am I missing something

[compact trout]

It's a cool item tbh

[foggy heron]

🤔 I guess ward on block is not bad

[turbid dome]

+10 block chance per stack is nice

[compact trout]

It gives you decently high block and block effectiveness even if you don't have any passives for block e.t.c

[foggy heron]

when you block you lose stack

[turbid dome]

Yes

[foggy heron]

so only good on boss

to cap your block

[turbid dome]

And good for classes that don’t get access to a lot or any block support

[foggy heron]

I see

like necromancer

[turbid dome]

I believe falconer can also turn all the block chance into glancing blows chance

And since you never block you never loose the stacks

[foggy heron]

sold this perfect idol in 30m, feel like I messed up

should've put higher

[turbid dome]

What are other idols with that selling for

[foggy heron]

normally stuff takes ages to sell

[turbid dome]

Or listed for

[foggy heron]

saw a 60K for like good rolls

[compact trout]

void cleve aoe sounds like a dead stat to me tbh

[tardy mirage]

its good budget item

[tardy mirage]

people selling stuff for favor

[foggy heron]

yeah I understand a bit more now

I'm so lost on prices xD

I put it randomly

[compact trout]

Is that a thing in the game or just datamined?

Never seen that affix

[foggy heron]

@tardy mirage how would you price these ? 🤔

[turbid dome]

I believe that’s a one shot cache item’s affix, the solar deserter’s shield

From like act 1

[tardy mirage]

no clue i play CoF

i just know the people who sell for 0 do it to cheese rep

[compact trout]

Yeah, Ulatri Highlands act1, thank you

Such a weird thing btw, those fixed rare items with affixes that can't exist anywhere else

[turbid dome]

They exist to help support builds during the campaign

Like Orian’s pike is for a melee build that also wants some spell dmg

Or the one that has guaranteed dmg done to mana before health

The dual daggers for an evasion rogue outside of ettera’s temple

[compact trout]

Would be cool if melee builds that wanted some spell dmg could roll that affix as a t7 in endgame

[turbid dome]

Thing is an endgame build has other ways to get that

Like a melee void knight who wants some spell damage for void rifts, just get some vitality

[cobalt blade]

Darn I should have marathorn'ed to the beacon

[foggy heron]

is there a unique that makes me do more dmg if I can't crit ?

[cobalt blade]

singularity

but its a kek idol

[foggy heron]

nice it's perfect for me !

oh wait no

hit dmg

[cobalt blade]

yea

[foggy heron]

I'm doing melee, spell and dot dmg

at the same time

[compact trout]

Add some minions maybe

[alpine canopy]

This is literally the best generic shield in the game, nearly caps your block and builds up your block effect to a reasonable level on its own

[foggy heron]

but when you get hit by 20 mob at the same time you lose all your block

and you die

[cobalt blade]

keep in inventory and swap for bossing i guess

[alpine canopy]

Nah, you still keep a good amount and it gives ward on block to mitigate bursts

[cobalt blade]

some peepo try to use Slab but I never read enough if u can cap it

[alpine canopy]

biggest thing is for bosses and other single big hits that are deadly

[alpine canopy]

I think it has had a reputation of being used in offline mode and using cheated stuff to somehow reach 100% block with it on. Otherwise, it's pretty useless

(I think it was nerfed, so that might not be possible anymore)

[foggy heron]

😔 again I died like 100 times in the last few hours

[cobalt blade]

oof Dominion

the explosion is

[foggy heron]

I ran into that one when I clicked to pick them up

xD

[compact trout]

Covenant be dropping nukes

[foggy heron]

1 death per minute challenge

[cobalt blade]

Ruby Capt Arjani in the other hand...

[quiet hearth]

Yeah, those things hit a little too hard honestly, but still not as bad as those meteor chickens

[cobalt blade]

drops a slam that feels like a ton heavy

[compact trout]

I love fighting 10 bosses in each echo i complete what do you mean

[foggy heron]

are there VK build that use health regen ?

[quiet hearth]

Yeah, that feels really weird to be fighting 7 timelines worth of a boss at once in some monos

[compact trout]

Engi uses health regen you can try selling it to him

But generally no

[cobalt blade]

Engi and health regen? Engi!! Did you cheat on VOID

[foggy heron]

I have no idea about popular build, my weakness as a non meta follower

my other weakness is that I suck at the game

:p

[compact trout]

You can probably toss 90% of t6-7 suffixes away

% health maybe

....other health

[foggy heron]

would you keep this ?

[cobalt blade]

imagine you always have max stack of frailty on you

[foggy heron]

to sell

[compact trout]

I do be playing CoF but that one looks decent, but WERY small amount of players play with spears

[foggy heron]

this looks kinda broken

[cobalt blade]

Regalia :>

[compact trout]

Best base, but not the best affix

[foggy heron]

I would probably fail if I try to craft it :/

it should be worth quite a bit

[cobalt blade]

42 FP is alot i think

[alpine canopy]

Would be a nice body armor if you can't wear leo helm for some reason, prefixes are junk though

[foggy heron]

that's my current chest

I bought it 300K

expensive

I try to level up to switch base

[foggy heron]

is there any difference on % modifier you get from skill tree vs other places ?

I feel it gives me more dmg than it should 🤔

[waxen nymph]

Well yes

This is a %More Dmg, it's multiplicative with other sources of More Dmg and Increase Dmg
On your gear you find mostly Increase Dmg. All sources of Increase Dmg are additive together.

[foggy heron]

so it's not the same thing as %void I get from most other sources

more powerful

thanks

it's not worded as it being a More %

at least my monkey brain didn't understand it

[waxen nymph]

So if you have 100% Inc Void and 100%Inc Melee you get 200% Increase Dmg.
If you have 100%Inc Dmg and 60% More Dmg that's result in 220% Increase Dmg

[foggy heron]

I see

swapping to this and singularity was a great move for me

[waxen nymph]

Still doing Void Beams?

[foggy heron]

yes

and lot of devouring orbs

because it gives me more void dmg, it give me something to do between casting

and because of erasing strike I have to scale generic void dmg anyway

it's weird but quite fun

[waxen nymph]

DOrb gives you More Void Dmg right?

[foggy heron]

I use this also

[waxen nymph]

Orbiting DOrb?

[foggy heron]

no the one that stay longer and launches orb

[waxen nymph]

Orbiting DOrb have a huge More Dmg to it

[foggy heron]

🤔

so I should try it out

[waxen nymph]

Just saying

[foggy heron]

I quite like it for now but I will try it later

right now I try to find a way to stop dying

at 100 corruption

[waxen nymph]

Ah

Is that you?

[foggy heron]

yes

[foggy heron]

I was told to upgrade my bases for armour, so I try to get lvl 86

I was told it's surprising I got to empowered mono xD

[frail grove]

hi folks. hey i am a level 79 void knight and i am really struggling with survivability in empowered monos. i have about 1732 health and i trying to get more levels and such. i feel like i am doing something wrong. following the maxroll build guide and doing rive void knight atm

[waxen nymph]

How often do you stun?

[foggy heron]

not that often, eraring stirke could stun, every 3s

[waxen nymph]

I would remove the More Dmg to stunned inside VR and take either more CDR (and no mana) or More dmg to time rotted enemies

With DOrb applying Time Rot you should be at 12 stacks very often

[foggy heron]

on big target yeah

they hit a lot

anomaly is useless for me now

[turbid dome]

import your build into last epoch tools and I can take a look

[waxen nymph]

Not enough hp

[turbid dome]

also unless your doing something with a ton of block and/or ward you need a lot more hp

but even then more hp = good

[frail grove]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BaayVk7B

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 79

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (18) / Forge Guard (25) / Paladin (18)

General:

▸ Health: 1,945, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 176.9, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 11%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 24 Str / 2 Dex / 2 Int / 2 Att / 20 Vit
▸ Resistances: 131% / 76% / 78% / 78% / 72% / 72% / 76%
▸ EHP: 3,753 / 3,825 / 3,753 / 4,412 / 3,644 / 3,644 / 3,753

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 389
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (80)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 37% (1,696)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Fire, Physical / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Rive (21)
• Abyssal Echoes (21)
• Volatile Reversal (21)
• Healing Hands (21)
• Void Cleave (21)

Used unique items:

• Titan Heart
• Siphon of Anguish
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

[turbid dome]

you only need one of these at 100%

[waxen nymph]

I am a bit confused Brillanty
You say you are trying to do Void Beams, a Spell Void DoT. But I see in your passive tree, Crit multi (for 1pt) and Increased Melee Dmg (for 5 pts)

[frail grove]

Sry stuff happend and i got capped with crit strike avoidance first

[turbid dome]

thats all good

can I ask why you only have 18 points in void knight

[waxen nymph]

Take the pull on Rive too

Its so good

[frail grove]

Engi its because of the darn maxroll guide

it only starts me out as the leveling build

[turbid dome]

what the duck

[foggy heron]

with erasing strike I want to get the void beam I get when I clear 5 or more monster, so I can clear and stuff, but for that I need the dmg with erasing strike to kill the smalls mobs (void beam and other stuff will clear the big boys). The crit point I need to remove it

[frail grove]

i plan on going erasing strike later btw

[turbid dome]

eternal form is like the best defensive node for a vk

[frail grove]

because i am trying to get some of the items

engi can i msg u here?

[turbid dome]

whats the msg

[foggy heron]

@waxen nymph fell in love with that node :p

it's really great

[frail grove]

sent it to u engi

its just a link to the build i am planning on going

[waxen nymph]

May I send you a video of someone doing Void Beams?

[turbid dome]

ah you want to do the infinite bonk vk

[frail grove]

i dont know whats best. i like rive but i feel like i am still having issues

[foggy heron]

dreadful ?

[waxen nymph]

I know some people don't want to see guides or builds or videos

[waxen nymph]

Yep

[turbid dome]

rive is extremely strong, but your passive tree is all over the place

[foggy heron]

I didn't, I still checked yesterday to get ideas.

I saw his video

[frail grove]

yeah something tells me i really need to get it fixed

[turbid dome]

here give me a minute and I'll redo your passive tree and then we can ask vlad for a double check to make sure i'm not being goofy

[frail grove]

ty

[foggy heron]

but I really wanted the 3 void beams moving around

[frail grove]

any help is appreciated

[foggy heron]

so I don't like that version of his

which is probably hundred time better than mine

😅

[turbid dome]

to make sure, do you want to keep it a bleed dot build or is a back2basics vk good too

[foggy heron]

I found myself forced to scale erasing strike dmg enough

[frail grove]

i guess bleed is going to be ok. i dont have any super preference.

[turbid dome]

back2basics = void cleave -> erasing strike with rive in the middle

[frail grove]

ah..

as long as i survive and kill stuff i am fine with whatever in this case engi

[turbid dome]

okie dokie

[foggy heron]

@waxen nymphdoi you have ideas of good uniques for a build like mine ?

no crit, melee + spell, even some dot

[frail grove]

by the way, i hope the gear i am wearing is decent. i dont mind switching stuff, just really confused.

[turbid dome]

all good, do you have a pair of darkstride boots?

[frail grove]

sadly no

[turbid dome]

thats ok

[frail grove]

thats why i am trying to farm what i can. i spent time with a friend leveling and we both got to empowered monos but he wants me to go erasing strike bonk build. which i want to do but cant until i hit 85 for world splitter

as i said i am really struggling to figure out how i am not surviving when most of my stuff is capped especially res

[neat hound]

anyone here with a void knight palarus build? Yea i dont want to play paladin

[foggy heron]

do nemesis only gives 1 affixe ?

I did these with the egg

[frail grove]

sometimes it can give 2 affixes. but i think its incredibly rare

[foggy heron]

oh thx

btw we are in same boat

empowered mono

[turbid dome]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYy9KODo

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 79

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Sentinel (31) / Void Knight (62) / Paladin (5)

General:

▸ Health: 2,560, Regen: 30.71/s
▸ Mana: 188.9, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 16%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 29 Str / 3 Dex / 3 Int / 8 Att / 53 Vit
▸ Resistances: 144% / 80% / 74% / 72% / 72% / 97% / 73%
▸ EHP: 4,986 / 4,986 / 4,937 / 6,311 / 4,841 / 4,986 / 4,888

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 512
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (88)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 50% (2,769)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Fire, Physical / Melee, Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Rive (21)
• Void Cleave (21)
• Volatile Reversal (21)
• Healing Hands (21)
• Erasing Strike (21)

Used unique items:

• Siphon of Anguish
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

[foggy heron]

ruishing the most death as possible

[turbid dome]

theres a fairly quick and dirty redo of some gear and your passive tree

I tried to keep the gear similair to what you currently have

and remove some idols to put in some health giving idols (open slots)

[alpine canopy]

It's random and biased to give fewer/lower tier affixes the higher your item's LPL

[foggy heron]

I can feed LP item to the egg ? is it even worth it

[turbid dome]

the biggest thing is you just need some flat health on your gear (vitality + flat life affix)

[frail grove]

ok

[turbid dome]

and to also have eternal form

[alpine canopy]

Used to be bugged to be able to give uniques up to 5 affixes, think they fixed that though so it can only give up to 4

[turbid dome]

and the full echo package

if you want to completely redo your idols theres horizontal ones that give 3 vitality and some that give 7

this is important because with this setup each vitality gives 8 flat hp, 1% poison, 1% necrotic, 1 flat melee void dmg to rive and .33% more melee void dmg

this also gives your rive an 80% echo chance

[alpine canopy]

vitally important, I think you mean

[turbid dome]

mmm vitality

the other thing is you want to void cleave (hit something) then use erasing strike in the next 4 seconds for the +100 flat crit chance

[foggy heron]

seems to be better to use vitality for me too 😮

thx engi :p

[turbid dome]

vitality 👍

[waxen nymph]

Damn thats sweet for ER Spam !!

[foggy heron]

yeah, ngl i really like my build it's going great killing mobs proccing voidbeam, having devouring orb picking up the slack in both single and aoe very reliably

not sure it will scale that well

:p

[waxen nymph]

All thoses talk about Void Spell makes me want to do a VK Spellcaster (again)

[foggy heron]

devouring orbs looks very cool

I mean I'm using it, I see how strrong it is

and I'm not even fully focused on it

[turbid dome]

I like turret orb the most

[waxen nymph]

I like Orbiting and its 300% More Dmg

[icy lily]

So, I have pivoted on my forge guard from doing ALL the minions to only juicing up my manifested armor. Looking forward to see how it goes!

[foggy heron]

@turbid dome I upgraded my armor :p

doubled my armor rating

[turbid dome]

very nice armor

[icy lily]

also +2 to erasing strike, very huge

[foggy heron]

yeah

20% more dmg

with these

[waxen nymph]

Doing Shield Throw too ?

[modest scarab]

Is void knight bugged or something? seeing weird numbers overall like hitting 40-90k warpath hits ontop of procs upwards of 200k on REALLY mediocre gear at 65ish

and seeing it generally working with most stuff even seeing paladin hitting 50k-100k smites while warpathing with dogwater gear

[icy lily]

yea

[waxen nymph]

Loved it when I played it

[icy lily]

Surprised me quite a bit that you dont need to have a shield to be able to use shield throw. Sentinel does have some very tight restrictions on other skills

[foggy heron]

so traumatised of dying

I'll get armour everywhere

[waxen nymph]

Dont forget HP

[icy lily]

if i remember correctly, 2k hp is the bare acceptable minimum for empowered monos?

[foggy heron]

do I have a good chance to seal t3?

[waxen nymph]

On an exalted ?

[foggy heron]

y

bought this

[waxen nymph]

Dont forget to x100 to get it in %

[foggy heron]

okay I won't be greedy then

seal T2 ele res

can I seal several affixe ?

[waxen nymph]

Nope just one

[foggy heron]

🤔

would be cool

oh

okay

not the greatest

but will have to do for now

[waxen nymph]

Thoses are real sweet

[foggy heron]

you think ? 😮

[waxen nymph]

@crimson rover Hey sorry for the ping but I have been playing Ignite Shield Throw + Ring of Shield and it made me think about you

[icy lily]

much better than mine

[waxen nymph]

I mean its a t20 on a strong base, with all 5 affixes being what you want (or close to)

I dont see you changing thoses in a while

[foggy heron]

I'm just used to ppl calling my gear trash when it's not perfect 😅

thx

[frail grove]

@turbid dome just wanted to say ty again for the help

[turbid dome]

now all you gotta do is embrace the void

[frail grove]

yep!

[alpine canopy]

If you're using the echoes, yes. Currently the echoes actually damage enemies around you like stacking multiple warpaths on top of yourself.

[foggy heron]

is there a way to know what idols can have which modifier ?

I wonder if the 1x2 idols are good for vitality

maybe some 1x3 are better 🤔

[waxen nymph]

[waxen nymph]

I usually go into the letools planner and check it there

The big 4long x 1high are the ones that can roll the most Vitality

They gives more the 2 2x1

[foggy heron]

👍

with VK since you get lot of flap hp with vitality

I guess % hp have much more value

[waxen nymph]

I think the game wants me to go Void Caster

[turbid dome]

% tends to have more value for everyone, like up to 240 flat on chest armor is nice but up to 39% increased health just has it beat

max t7 body armor affixes for numbers

[icy lily]

If you play long enough, you start to notice some patterns

[foggy heron]

I wanted to équip a ring and died at the Time

Bye bye my vitality ring from the market

[turbid dome]

[foggy heron]

Not a bug just skill issue

[waxen nymph]

Brillanty, where are you from ?

[icy lily]

◻️

[waxen nymph]

🕵️

[foggy heron]

France. On my phone it put accent everywhere

[waxen nymph]

👋 Hi fellow Baguette ^^

[foggy heron]

Hey :p

You french too 😮

[waxen nymph]

🤫🤫

I am undercover

[foggy heron]

I thought you were an employee

[icy lily]

bold of you to assume that discord mods are employed :p

[turbid dome]

Moderators aren’t employees

[foggy heron]

Ill keep the secret

He was purple

Too

It made sense

XD

[foggy heron]

I was wondering if some could be employed

Or not

[foggy heron]

Im very hopeful xD

[rancid lantern]

a bit of a specific question

[waxen nymph]

Purples are players volontering to help moderating the community
Yellows and Oranges are employees

[foggy heron]

👍

[foggy heron]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oNyXZ0OB. I upgraded the base !

[rancid lantern]

but do you guys think that running Void Cleave + guaranteed crit Erasing for 3 rotations for 3 void essences for void well is worth it? And by worth it, I mean running around 450 mana so that 3 rotations of cleave+erasing equate to roughly 30% mana

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 86

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Void Knight (73) / Paladin (5)

General:

▸ Health: 2,685, Regen: 39.67/s
▸ Mana: 172.44, Regen: 9.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 16%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 22 Str / 4 Dex / 4 Int / 10 Att / 76 Vit
▸ Resistances: 140% / 137% / 93% / 78% / 75% / 76% / 109%
▸ EHP: 6,556 / 6,556 / 6,556 / 10,871 / 6,556 / 6,556 / 6,556

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 599
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (69)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 69% (5,587)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 69%

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Erasing Strike (25)
• Volatile Reversal (24)
• Devouring Orb (23)
• Rebuke (21)
• Shield Rush (23)

Used unique items:

• Shadow Beacon
• Swaddling of the Erased
• Code of an Erased Sentinel
• Singularity

[alpine canopy]

[rancid lantern]

I was thinking of ways to go around not running world splitter

and that's what I came up with

[alpine canopy]

I think this is pretty common tech to do nowadays

[rancid lantern]

It is?

[foggy heron]

Like me everytime I have an Idea its Bad its already old

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, it's a great combo - world splitter is only nice to help enable a variant with no VC, but VC is nice always

[rancid lantern]

hmmm

cause i considered whats a nice beam build with Abberoths

[alpine canopy]

at least no mandatory VC, so you can just spam ES back to back

if you want

[rancid lantern]

Anomaly for damage isn't bad bad, but it not being able to echo is a bit of a kick in the nuts

[rancid lantern]

Well you can't quite get 100% base crit without world splitter easily

hence the VC

[alpine canopy]

Right, that's what I mean, sorry I'm just typing sentence fragments lol

[rancid lantern]

no worries

so hm

not a bad pivot idea

beams erasing

with abberoths

[waxen nymph]

Abberoth Command ? The Sceptre ,right ?

[rancid lantern]

Ye

only way i can see void dot working, cause otherwise youre kinda missing out on flat spell dam

@alpine canopy anything i can do with all that mana

besides the void well rotation i mean

[frail grove]

sigh i swear, i am getting way too frusrated. This void knight is still dying.

[waxen nymph]

Dont you get Flat Spell per Vit ?

[frail grove]

i have lost out on a unique ring for the empowered mono and more rewards cause these skeletons and for some reason poison and phys dmg? doesnt make sense when i have all res capped

[rancid lantern]

i mean ye but thats not enough with the low multi

what im currently running feels more like a void smite/echoes build

than an anomaly build

which is not a terrible direction

but not giving me my hipster build fix

xd

[alpine canopy]

Spell damage for smite from devotion maybe

[rancid lantern]

hmm i was thinking more defensively

[alpine canopy]

Oh, seed

[waxen nymph]

Seed of Ekkidrasil

[rancid lantern]

ye seed is the obvious one

anything else?

[alpine canopy]

nothing I can think of

[rancid lantern]

Though Seed might actually mess up

the rotation

[alpine canopy]

yeah maybe so

[alpine canopy]

Also fun bug fact, Aberroth's Command disables echoes for VC

[rancid lantern]

good to know

but thankfully doesnt affect void dot

[alpine canopy]

AE + rav aura with abby's command was a fun build, I ran that in 1.1

it's definitely a little wonky, and investing into echo chance definitely wasn't beneficial to it at all

[turbid dome]

That a much better max hit

[waxen nymph]

You get 2 Flat per Vit ! Thats a lot
What do you mean the low Multi ?

[rancid lantern]

hmm

[waxen nymph]

Low More Dmg ?

[rancid lantern]

ye

[waxen nymph]

Yeah, 80% and 50%

[rancid lantern]

Rav aura doesnt seem worth investing into considering it doesnt get flat vit scaling *

[waxen nymph]

Could get another 60% but that means a Mace

[alpine canopy]

Void Beacon is a 2h mace with a big chunk of flat spell void

and supports other void spells etc.

[rancid lantern]

cant run void cleave with either of these

[alpine canopy]

It works though. It gets increased scaling from vit and str both, and that could even be better given all the flat void available in random places.

[rancid lantern]

well the ideal rotation is something like Multistrike into echoes into 2 sec of warpath into Cleave...

which is wonk af

its not bad but you can do better elsewhere for far less lmao

[icy lily]

my dmg is a bit lower but finally i am not dying all the time in empowered monos

[alpine canopy]

Nah, you just pick either warpath or MS, not feasible to do both. I did the warpath route because it was really easy to proc for me (numlock warpath, interrupt it with evade for AE, then wait or warpath to start again before popping VC) and warpath pops AE really well

I really need to fix my keyboard lol

[rancid lantern]

anyway this isnt going to be a ravaging aura primarily

as much as beams

seeing as you can get as many as cooldowns/mana/void essences allow you

[alpine canopy]

Yes, but only against rares/bosses. Granted everything else you can probably clear fine lol

I think if you want to hyper focus on the beams, Beacon is the way to go because it gets you another multi for them, even though it locks out VC

[rancid lantern]

how would you get void essences then?

i reckon getting 40sh mana regen/sec is not easier

[alpine canopy]

You get those from ES crits, which you'll have to get... somehow 😅

does stink to build crit on a DOT build

[rancid lantern]

the opportunity cost to get 100% melee crit

is far lesser

via void cleave im afraid

[alpine canopy]

but the ceiling is lower

[rancid lantern]

im not opposed to mana regen route tho

i wonder how much you can get

youd need enough to spam echoes each erasing

Though granted, if you do get 100% melee crit chance with shadow beacon

that opens up the option of running time loop

[alpine canopy]

Yeah... I guess it does start to run into the problem of just not enough skill points though, so maybe beacon isn't worth it

[rancid lantern]

yep

[icy lily]

This would be so insane if Smelter's Wrath wasnt such an atrocious skill :x

[rancid lantern]

@alpine canopy theres one more caveat to voidwell, void essences individually last like 8 seconds

so you need to squeeze 3 rotations in that time...

7 seconds actually

hmmm can you even do that

[icy lily]

With enough speedstacking maybe?

[alpine canopy]

Yes, while clearing it's no problem at all, while bossing it might be a bit tighter

[rancid lantern]

erasing is 5 sec

cleave is 4

suppose you get 100% CDR

that's still not enough for erasing

have to do shattered continuity, no other way

making the mana expenditure...

315 mana :/

making your mana requirement 1050

[icy lily]

Finally I solved my defensive problems. 2144 health with high endurance through sigils of hope, 812 ward on top and all resistances maxed out

[rancid lantern]

What's your armor and block looking like

[icy lily]

51% armor and block is basically not existent, haha

[rancid lantern]

seems to be the next thing to work on, on top of like 4k lhealth

[rancid lantern]

ya youd need like 1050 mana, 1400 mana if you include echoes

[tight jolt]

If you were gonna go Divine Fury Javelin build, would you go Pali or FG? Not sure what's better on the back half of the trees, the lightning stuff from Pali or throw crit from FG. Plus Pali would provide Holy Aura..

[cobalt blade]

I see warpath

[alpine canopy]

I think either would work, but I have to give the win to FG since it has that flat crit per dex node - without that, it's super hard to get flat crit chance.

[subtle relic]

hi! what is stat priority for minion FG?

minion damage > all

?

[spark monolith]

depends on how you want to play minions. Manifest armor, forged weapons, ring of shields. But in general attunement

[subtle relic]

my skills are , rive, FS, void cleave(traversal), manifest armor, and i guess sigils of hope

rive with the node that makes weapons

[alpine canopy]

FG minions are a little unique, they can copy stats directly from specific gear slots (depending on the minion type and its skill tree) that normally wouldn't apply to minions. So on those gear slots, you can get better non-minion stats, and on the rest of your slots you get minion stats and attunement.

[subtle relic]

do the bonuses from "Fresh from the Forge" buff my forged weapons

[spark monolith]

no

[turbid dome]

Special note: get a phantom grip ring

And learn what affixes actually get inherited by your minions

[tight jolt]

I was sort of thinking that, too, but I don't know how good it is to hinge on crit, in general

[alpine canopy]

Crit is essentially "mandatory" for all builds that have it as an option, hitting 100% crit chance may not be quite so needed

but with that flat and some dex (like the +20 in FG), hitting 100% crit is very reasonable to do

[upper quest]

How u sustain mana with spin smite pally? Reversal is the only option?

Winds of justice maxxed sucks mana out like nuts

[waxen nymph]

What is the Channel cost of Warpath?
Did you reduce it to 8 or less?

[upper quest]

It regenerates slowly while spinning

Think i took 2 pts in mana reduction and then that passive for another -6

-10 total

[waxen nymph]

So it's 6 per second right?

[upper quest]

Channel cost 8

[waxen nymph]

Ok

[waxen nymph]

So either you put more pts in the reduced channel cost node, or you invest in Mana regen

[upper quest]

Aight

[gusty abyss]

Or, get a sceptre with reduced mana cost prefix

[upper quest]

Ya thought about that one too

[gusty abyss]

if you are going fire, you want that anyway for cyclone of war

[upper quest]

Thats my goal

[waxen nymph]

Not sure you want to spend a prefix for that

AS and Spell Crit seems much more valuable

[gusty abyss]

depends what you are doing, 25% base crit on smite, 200% increased from pala, leaves a well rolled t7 crit chance on say ring to max your crit.

[waxen nymph]

When you can fix your mana other way

[upper quest]

So u max unchained?

Or mana regen stat

[gusty abyss]

but yeah, ranks to warpath can also fix it, reduce that channel cost some more

[waxen nymph]

Maybe not maxed, check how many pts you need to make it feels good

[cobalt blade]

I see reduced cost