🔱┃sentinel

[quiet hearth]

I can only imagine that, I did a judgement calc and I got to something like 1400% more or something silly

[polar spire]

Naaaa that axe on a primalist using EQ

Though you could also totally do a mana strike/shatter strike build with that axe

[turbid dome]

Fair

[quiet hearth]

The issue with the axe, is that bonk hammer has like...triple the damage base so you'd have to scale to the moon to beat the flat and the pen

[polar spire]

Mordita's frost claw slammed with armor shred and that runemaster talent that turns armor shred into frostbite chance for spells is neat

[quiet hearth]

But that aoe tho will be hilarious

[winter copper]

tfw best starter is shield rush, the state of sentinel 🚯

[tardy hedge]

thats kinda disappointing to hear since it feels pretty weak. I just did the spirits of fire timeline fight vs the 3 guys in the volcano and the dps was suffering lol (unempowered 😔 )

[turbid dome]

Imagine using a shield

[winter copper]

you dont, on that version

[turbid dome]

Darn

Imagine using rush

[tribal crane]

did you try as main dmg from ravaging aura? thats not going to work, its support skill after all

you pair it with abyssal echoes

[winter copper]

^

[tardy hedge]

yea I was just testing scaling it up since im assuming aberroths would enable it to be main dps

[winter copper]

new scepter will not magically it into a viable build

[tardy hedge]

yea 😦 was hoping it might

[tribal crane]

it already is viable 💀

[turbid dome]

We love echoing the abyss

[winter copper]

i meant pure rav aura

without echoes

a lot of people were coping for that

[tribal crane]

ahh

yeah nah

[solid forge]

Viable is 300 corruption, pretty sure a lot of things can get there

[tribal crane]

ravaging aura+ae is the way to go with the sceptre

yeah i pushed it to 500 without issues

[winter copper]

sadly pure rav aura without echoes isnt one of them

tehcnically it can if you dont mind spending 10 mins on orobus fights

[tardy hedge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ApVGd6kB i was trying to see how itd feel to be 100% ravaging, i guess ill spec into AE and see how that feels as a dps source

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 80

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (57) / Forge Guard (1) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,979, Regen: 26/s
▸ Mana: 169, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 29%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 6 Dex / 6 Int / 10 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 96% / 51% / 45% / 113% / 45% / 104% / 95%
▸ EHP: 2,891 / 2,331 / 2,227 / 3,261 / 2,226 / 2,891 / 2,891

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 396
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (112)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 30% (1,211)
▸ Block Chance: 8%, Mitigation: 25% (319)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 15%

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Fire / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Sigils Of Hope (21)
• Lunge (21)
• Void Cleave (27)
• Abyssal Echoes (23)
• Anomaly (23)

Used unique items:

• Spine of Malatros
• Swaddling of the Erased
• Chains of Uleros
• Darkstride
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

[tribal crane]

you can get spelldmg for offhand sword aswell so it's gonna be good, defo better than with current 2h setup with spine of malatros

[solid forge]

Eew a VK build, I thought this had turned into a FG only channel for a few days

[tribal crane]

or use shield for more defensive way

[tardy hedge]

i was thinking a well rolled merophage (t5+ void% and dot%) might beat out spine, is that true or nah?

[winter copper]

nah

[tardy hedge]

unfortunate

[quiet hearth]

Im doing the numbers and I dont know what dev decided smite should get a 10% of missing HP and 10 mana per cast but I salute you

[tribal crane]

the spelldmg on spine is just way better than merophage and you can relatively easily find 2lp spine

[turbid dome]

Direct cast void smite time

[quiet hearth]

Nah, paladin with the 100% chance to cast HH on hit

[turbid dome]

Where we’re going we don’t need HH

we probably do but ignore that

[quiet hearth]

Wait, would the passive proc if smite cant heal anymore via the void conversion?

[turbid dome]

Uhhh

[quiet hearth]

I think it would because it's the passive triggering not smite healing you

[turbid dome]

Huzzah

[quiet hearth]

which just makes your void degeracy even better honestly

[hexed raft]

Howdy all! The forged weapon change affects the rive node that generates weapons, right? So they will be less powerful at start if I read correctly? Still worth using early in HC?

[quiet hearth]

tho that means a paladin literally cant die at that point I think

[turbid dome]

And then make it scale with vitality, (because vk for echos) which also plays into having 100+ vitality

Sadly no apostates

[quiet hearth]

I jsut realized that node also means the lightning convert node of smite FREE

Oh gods, 92% chance to cast three smites at once, 36% chance to double cast that, each cast is dropping 6 lightning bolts

[turbid dome]

Good heavens

Literally

[quiet hearth]

and then HH is procing on Each smite

now if only we could convert HH to lightning dmg

though I guess we could go the electrify route instead

[tribal crane]

oh nvm, i forgot its only electrify

[quiet hearth]

does smite sacrifice node boost it's electrify damage?

[tardy hedge]

messing around with dummies, is the tooltip for Ravaging Aura actually correct? LEtools says it scales with cast speed,and increasing cast speed makes the ingame tooltip go way up, but its not increasing the tick value or tick count

[quiet hearth]

Ive no idea on that one

well now that it isnt fire what do I do with holy aura

[fading swift]

Is the FG changes making it viable/up to pair with others now?

[quiet hearth]

Fg was always viable, though it's changes definitely brought it up in power

I legit think this smite thing might be what I start with now

Or would it be better to use the devotion ammy instead

I can see DW the new smite swords for werebear being absolutely bonkers actually

[stiff pendant]

holy trail still viable for starter? Sorry didnt read the patch

[ripe cargo]

Need a spear.

[quiet hearth]

You didn't read the patch? HOW DARE YOU?! but seriously yes it will be fine

Also gum someone pointed that out and I forgot to amend that but yes

So no, no other things

[turbid dome]

Hi I’m someone

[quiet hearth]

I hope so, otherwise you're the most impressive AI that I have seen

[turbid dome]

Yes

[ripe cargo]

i need to do physical

cause the spear makes me do physical

ugggg

[turbid dome]

How much physical

[ripe cargo]

60% physical pen

its a big deal

oh sorry 30 pen

50 damage

[tardy hedge]

8794 dps ravaging aura tooltip
16 ticks of ravaging aura:
12153 11365 11375 11388 11404 11217 5991 9654 9654 9654 9654 9654 9654 9654 9654 9654

add 5x Blademaster for 30% cast speed
ravaging aura becomes 10081 toolip
16 ticks of ravaging aura:
11956 11267 11275 11284 11303 11209 6025 9654 9654 9654 9654 9654 9654 9654 9654 9654

🤔 so I think the cast speed scaling is bugged, either tooltip is erroneously including it or the ingame damage is dropping it

[turbid dome]

That there is a phys build

[quiet hearth]

He does not know who he is, or where he comes from, all he knows, is he must stab

[ripe cargo]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzAsGYCZiA

its this one

forge guard can get 100% crit and a decent amount of crit multi

[quiet hearth]

yeah, with the new dex to crit node that one is a LOT better

[alpine canopy]

No, tooltips are frequently dumb, especially for non-stacking DOTs, skills that can't hit, and subskills (rav aura is all three of these lol)

Cast speed would increase how quickly you manually cast rav aura, if you could

[tardy hedge]

thats unfortunate lol. pretty limited options to scale that thing then

[alpine canopy]

Right, just the usual stuff that works for void spell DOT, plus the attribute and spec scaling from VC

[ripe cargo]

ooooh

got one skill at least

ring of shields

shield push can iensure im never screwed over by being swarmed

[tribal basin]

I think i need at least 560 mana on a warpath build now

[quiet hearth]

Oh, use the shield bash node that says you dont needa shield

[turbid dome]

Juggernaut gaming

[quiet hearth]

then you could get free blind when you chunk it at someone

like blind is so strong now

[turbid dome]

Yea

[quiet hearth]

though I guess you do still ahve to watch for increased crit mods

[quiet hearth]

how much dex are you stacking?

[ripe cargo]

Bare minimum...100?

[quiet hearth]

so dex stack vs str?

[ripe cargo]

Dex+str basically

low hp massive armor

[potent remnant]

vk void smite? or just pala?

[quiet hearth]

both actually, VK for direct dmg, paladin for fire/lightning

[potent remnant]

i have no idea what to play

was thinking about shield bash fg

nice after boost

[quiet hearth]

welcome to the club, we have jackets

[potent remnant]

with new uniq axe

[quiet hearth]

I wouldnt SB until you get the new axe tbh

[turbid dome]

Play back 2 basics VK -> get money for wacky builds

[potent remnant]

but smite build/erase build or beam

nah im ssf

[brittle grove]

anyone got an idea on how to make voidknight void smite seem feasable? everything i look at in the planner seems mediocore at best

[turbid dome]

*get items for wacky builds

[quiet hearth]

DW new smite swords and devotion ammy

[turbid dome]

Stack vitality and make smite scale with vitality?

[quiet hearth]

go void, build Vitality, profit

[brittle grove]

yeah but since the ailment conversion goes to slow and not time rot you seem to lose a crapload of damage

[quiet hearth]

you'd be going flat dmg with the devotion ammy

[potent remnant]

erase build was very nice, i used javelin and voild cleave to have no mana issue, but it was so scripted gameplay

[quiet hearth]

..scripted gameplay?

[potent remnant]

yea ^^

[quiet hearth]

do you mean repetitive?

[brittle grove]

i realy wanna try and get a voidknight smite build working with the new palarus, but everything leads back to FG builds or erasing strike

[potent remnant]

javelin->void cleave->erase->javelin->void cleave->erase->javelin->void cleave->erase->javelin->void cleave->erase->

[potent remnant]

yea but it was more scripted 😄

[quiet hearth]

I wouldnt use that term but same thing in the end really

[potent remnant]

yea it was ironic

[quiet hearth]

I'm working on the VK palarus thing

[potent remnant]

but yea it VERY repetitive

[turbid dome]

Man I’m over here loving my lunge -> void cleave -> erasing strike

Done it every cycle + beta update

[quiet hearth]

listen, you have a very specific addition

[brittle grove]

erasing strike is bae

[turbid dome]

Lopodores gets it

[quiet hearth]

my addition is seeing a unique interaction, slamming my face on the desk and going lfg

[brittle grove]

5 paladins, 4 void knights and 1 runemaster since early access, i have my favouratism

[turbid dome]

I might cry if this build stops working in the future

[quiet hearth]

Im waiting for VC can only be used unarmed

the only thing with the devotion ammy, is can you burn through mana faster than gain it because of the faith passive

I also just noticed the palarus sword is lvl 6 for LP, so getting 3 LP versions will not he too hard

does the VKs extra damage for smite also apply to the fissure nodes?

[alpine canopy]

Almost nothing applies to fissure

[quiet hearth]

Forgive me for my ignorance father, for I have memed

[turbid dome]

Does fissure get increased by spell damage?

[tribal basin]

no seriously , has anyone cooked stuff with Warpath and the Node that gets More Damage and increased Area per second channeled ?

[turbid dome]

I don’t think that works with the new axe

[alpine canopy]

Yes, but not that spell damage, specifically

[turbid dome]

Darn

[quiet hearth]

maybe Warpath constantly draining mana, and using mana on potion use to just barely keep your mana up

[sharp moat]

Is healing hands with rive still going to be a thing for 1.1? Going to try hc this cycle and I don't want to be squishy lol

[turbid dome]

Rive’s good to go if your not caring about the no more 3rd hit guaranteed crit

[tribal basin]

i plan on 4 seconds or maybe 5 , 4 seconds would be ~200 Mana used and 5 is ~300 mana

[quiet hearth]

just need to barely be sustaining mana for devotion

Though since I just need Vit, I suppose I could just stack flat mana

Or use some of those dmg taken as mana items

That might actually be the play, using seed of ekkidrasil lets you also go hard into endurance

[nocturne coral]

at the cost of more mana? yes a friend did and it made him ragequit. it was horrifically bugged at the time and at times his mana would just refuse to regen

[tribal basin]

Okay thats funny to hear XD , but should now be fixed right ?

[nocturne coral]

i couldn't tell you. he benched the build and went something else

BUT! i was watching a build video about a theorycrafted Warpath Paladin in 1.1 and it gives me hope for the build

[green sinew]

Especially when you have this

[turbid dome]

Good heavens

[inland quarry]

i just did the math lol. shield bash with that new shield and even almost perfect 4L gear and over 10,000 block effectiveness, and over 100 strength can barely do 60k boss dps. you're realistically going to get way less than that since perfect gear is impossible.

[tribal basin]

why the extra Flat Void melee isntead of Crit Multi ?

[quiet hearth]

WEavers giveth, and taketh as she will

[green sinew]

For the darkstriders

[quiet hearth]

I still say that they should just apply weavers to set items and that would make them SO much better

[green sinew]

And because you can't use void cleave with a mace, so it's not a guaranteed crit anymore

[tribal basin]

Schmoove per added Void , i understand

[green sinew]

At 110% MS w/o haste lol

[quiet hearth]

VK be like

[tribal basin]

the another question .. why is it T4 added Void melee ? 👀

[quiet hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/raichu-gottagofast-lol-speedy-gif-19134338

[green sinew]

Because I'm unlucky AD with crafting and impatient

[tribal basin]

I see , i know that feeling at least

[quiet hearth]

It's smart to build with imperfect iems because that is what you will have most of the time

[tribal basin]

meanwhile i waited till i had a T7 and a T6 that i wanted , in CoF

[green sinew]

I'm CoF so no just buying them for me

[green sinew]

I wanted to actually use it for the grind lol I couldn't wait

[zenith blaze]

what time is the game down until?

EST?

[quiet hearth]

check news, it has a timer in your zone

[abstract edge]

does bleed conversion to ignite from Maehlin's Hubris gloves (https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCswDgZiA) affect forge weapons / manifest armor?

[simple grotto]

im ready to shield bash my way to the harby's

[abstract edge]

Playing around with an ignite version of MA/forge strike: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BgK1L8vB

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (77) / Paladin (16)

General:

▸ Health: 1,544, Regen: 30/s
▸ Mana: 190, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 1 Dex / 6 Int / 23 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 96% / 100% / 126% / 82% / 78% / 89% / 65%
▸ EHP: 4,938 / 4,938 / 4,938 / 6,459 / 4,938 / 4,938 / 4,468

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 43%, Threshold: 309
▸ Armor Mitigation: 51% (3,225)
▸ Block Chance: 62%, Mitigation: 50% (2,051)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Multistrike (22)
• Ring Of Shields (24)
• Sigils Of Hope (22)
• Forge Strike (26)
• Manifest Armor (24)

Used unique items:

• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip
• Logi's Hunger
• Maehlin's Hubris

[grim grove]

shield bash too best 1.1 ?

[woven dew]

hello guys, I was trying out a pala build based on reave and healing hands as main dps/sustain do you think it will be still doable in late game after patch? I haven't had time to read the whole patch yet

[winter copper]

if you have money to gear it and then enjoy swipe level of aoe rightclick spam then yes

for mono clear it defintely wont be

neither it will be for bosses

[turbid dome]

Use new main hand shield -> take gladiator and put a regular sword in off hand

Link build time

[quiet hearth]

if only the axe still counted as a shield too

[turbid dome]

I wish gladiator let you put an axe in the off hand

Dual wield new shield axe thing!

[quiet hearth]

....

primalist can

[turbid dome]

But primalist doesn’t get shield bash

That’s probably intentional design

[quiet hearth]

It's for the memes

I have zero idea what you would do, but uh, that's like 170hp on block, so dying wont be one of them

[hollow bolt]

Start is in less than 24h and i am not eaven sure what Class i want to start with, let alone what build to play

[brittle grove]

i just want regular dual wielding shields, 1 arpg has to do it 😢

[brittle grove]

the problem of having an rpg with more than 3 viable builds, god damn we are fricked

[turbid dome]

Gimmie the dual shields from ds2

Let me crush enemies between them

[hollow bolt]

true, worse than poe league start

[brittle grove]

how bout ds3, the double doors

[turbid dome]

#meleePOEstartGang

[hollow bolt]

its called "the Wall" and its from Elden Ring :D

[brittle grove]

#uninstalledPoELongAgo

[turbid dome]

Elden Ring is just ds2 2

[brittle grove]

with better flasks

[rancid lantern]

seems like ill be goin crit forged weapons, seems just a tad spicier than ignite

[hollow bolt]

xD

[brittle grove]

and more delayed attacks

[hollow bolt]

while we are at it, did not Shield Throw got buffed? any take on that one, since Shield bash is a meme?

[brittle grove]

i have tried making a shield throw build with the new main hand "shield" as well, seems kinda meh, but then again, never made a throwing build and dunno how to fix the mana stuff

[hollow bolt]

normaly rings with - mana cost on throwing attacks

[turbid dome]

Shield + new scepter + funny void cleave node for +100 flat void dmg + convert it to void with an idol

It’s gotta slightly work right?

[pearl geyser]

it did, however its still pretty low dmg cause of throw scaling and the 25% total damage reduction on Shield Barrage (which is basically required for it to be usable) makes it so you pretty much cant use it as a main skill unless it is procing something else (smites, MA, etc)

[quiet hearth]

convert to void?

[turbid dome]

You can get idols that convert shield throws damage to void

[quiet hearth]

Ive literally never seen one lol

[pearl geyser]

with the update to the smite idols, smite shield throw could be a lot better than smite hammers

[hollow bolt]

Well, the new FG has a ton of fire support for throwing fire dmg

[pearl geyser]

as you can ascually aim it

[brittle grove]

yeah but the mana costs for throwing seems to scale so insanely high with forge guard, i'm just an unga bunga enjoyer who fails at making anything but unga bunga

[turbid dome]

I have too many in my stash

[hollow bolt]

i feel like every many Sentinal builds are basically a Smite build with a different smite generator

[brittle grove]

my erasing strike doesnt smite

you take that back

[hollow bolt]

i am sorry

[brittle grove]

accepted

[hollow bolt]

better?

[brittle grove]

acceptable, yes

[pearl geyser]

yeah the CD on shield throw and cost to get around it basically means its relegated to an activator

not to mention the very low base damage

[hollow bolt]

i see, and you basically needs 4 perfect rolls from this here to prog smite 100%

well cpt America dream build is over

[austere coral]

People played such build before 1.1 when this chance was like 3-4 times lower and were fine

Smite proc on throwing builds now got buffed, with more procs

[pearl geyser]

yeah, smite build is totally fine with less than 100% proc rate, however i just realized that on single target hammers are still going to be a lot better

[tardy hedge]

the thorn affix buffs might make the shield throw unique slightly less depressing to use

[ripe cargo]

oh my god

I am so stupid

I was looking for a physical support skill this whole time

literally the point of the forge stirke changes was to align it better with the rest of forge guard

[pearl geyser]

it would be cool if your shield throw inherited some amount of the armour from your shield like javelin does if youre using a spear

[solid forge]

Burn baby, burn.

[hollow bolt]

wait, javelin gets dmg based of armor?

ah nvm

[pearl geyser]

no, its (i think?) the only throwing attack that gets affected by base weapon dmg (conditionally)

[tribal basin]

there was something with shield throw and Manifest armor , cant remember right now what it was

[pearl geyser]

yeah, thats the best use of it imo. hitting your MA makes it do an AOE attack and it can do a lotta damage

[hollow bolt]

i need to reread the patchnodes again, maybe i will just play my old Volcanus Fire Warpath again or something

[pearl geyser]

yeah, being able to regen mana while channeling WP is pretty big

[hollow bolt]

ya, and spawning Forged Weapons should be good too

with ring of shields and the new Sigil ring i can be a tanky boy maybe

[pearl geyser]

im planning on an ignite MA build with some additional smites (assuming i can figure out mana)

[spring pollen]

Personally i find Multistrike + manual Forge strike to be the best forge weapon spawn. If they get wiped by a boss AOE then WP takes a long time to bring them all back online. MS can get them back much faster

Plus the new hammer and anvil node and forge strike will mean atk speed buff most of the time

[solid forge]

When you go warpath, the minions are not the main dps generally, you are too. It's a more hybrid gameplay

[hollow bolt]

I think i found a pure minion Build with Multistrike

[vestal thorn]

with that block effectiveness and that strength im already at 43k dps with just the skill tree, without gear, passives, other skills or counting crits, wtf are you mathing

[inland quarry]

that's dummy dps. for real dps vs lvl 100 mobs multiply it by 0.13

[hollow bolt]

I dont want to promote anybody but is this what you are refering to?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-tCuQld0qo

[tribal basin]

The minions are there to apply All the Shreds and some bleed/ignite stacks

Lv 100 mobs have 87% damage Reduction

[spring pollen]

Might be, i can check the link later

[pearl geyser]

its this node on MS that helps to snap back a lot of weapons

and the one right after it helps with maintenance a lot

[spring pollen]

Yes exactly. You build armament stacks then smash Forge strike and a bunch of FW pop up

[pearl geyser]

its my leveling plan for fg. very very effective

[hollow bolt]

The last time i played with Forged Weapons, i played the warpath version in normal monos and i had no problems. i guess later in 100-300 corruption this is not the case?

i feel like a fkn noob xD

[spring pollen]

It only really becomes a problem when your minions can all get wiped in a single boss/mob attack. Then you want them back up asap, and i found WP too slow.

For regular campaign and monos play, WP is often nice smooth easy mode 🙂

[hollow bolt]

true

i played up until 0.9 4 differnt warpath versions, i love that skill

[wet citrus]

hello dear sentinel friends, would you guys still recommend playing auto bomber, did it get breaking changes?
do you guys have "there is this build I'm gonna try it looks hella exciting you should check out too" kind of suggestions?
thanks in advance ❤️ hope you all have wonderfull cycle start tomorrow.

[hollow bolt]

Void, Fire, Ignite and Bleed, if you were wondering

Tell me wrong but autobomber should be buffed with the new weapon bases this patch no?=

And the Devouring orbs got not touched

[solid forge]

I'm gonna need help here, I'm too tired and I reached my knowledge limit of skills/nodes/items (ignore LP4, they are just to know which stats to focus): https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BjKL0wEo

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Forge Guard (77) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,581, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 293, Regen: 9/s
▸ Ward Retention: 54%, Regen: 49/s
▸ Attributes: 32 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 62 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 146% / 91% / 91% / 118% / 74% / 83% / 100%
▸ EHP: 5,353 / 5,353 / 5,353 / 7,108 / 5,300 / 5,353 / 5,353

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 561
▸ Armor Mitigation: 52% (3,391)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Void Cleave (22)
• Sigils Of Hope (24)
• Manifest Armor (28)
• Forge Strike (24)
• Warpath (27)

Used unique items:

• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip
• Aberroth's Command
• Eye of Reen
• Vortex Pennant
• Wings of Argentus
• Logi's Hunger
• Strands of Souls
• Fiery Dragon Shoes
• Burning Avarice

[tribal basin]

soo just ignoring the 4Lp Wings .. i see

[solid forge]

I can reliably get LP3 on merchant, but LP4 is going to be too rare still

[quiet hearth]

how do you set LP in the builder?

[solid forge]

You don't, you can just add 2 prefixes and 2 suffixes

[quiet hearth]

that makes sense

if flat spell damage is added, is it adaptive?

[tribal basin]

reliably getting a 3 LP Wings ... Sure buddy

a 1 LP Wings has been 20 mil minimum with garbage rolls

[half reef]

I don't think a 3LP Wings has ever even existed legitimately

[tribal basin]

well now it might be possible for 1 Lp and " Perhaps" 2 Lp , 3 Lp is still utopic

[solid forge]

I'm not sure what your point is. I make m builds with chase items in mind. You can just replace it with a double T7 solarum if it bothers you so much

[tribal basin]

i camped MG for a while to see if someone put a 2 Lp wings there ... nothing

[pearl geyser]

how is merch guild? ive only played CoF so far

[quiet hearth]

It's good if you're lazy like me

[pearl geyser]

i am very uniquely lazy

[tribal basin]

there is Chase Items that can be gotten realistically within this planets lifespan and then also the opposite

[solid forge]

It's better than COF until you need LP3-4 pretty much

[tribal basin]

4Lp stuff -> Gold Cap

thats MG

[pearl geyser]

i just dont like the idea of farming gold

[hollow bolt]

to expencive anyway and to fast gone

[tribal basin]

you dont farm gold , you farm random items that you all dump into your 2nd stash. Your market stall

[solid forge]

It's really not a mandatory item... I just added it as extra to look for if most everything else is in place. Like I said, double T7 solarium just fine

[tribal basin]

double T7 is doable yes

[hollow bolt]

just for the record, i never dropped 2 T7 on an item, and i have 833h ingame

[solid forge]

I got several

On CoF

[pearl geyser]

hmm might try it out. i do kinda love prophecies tho

[hollow bolt]

until now i never pushed past 150c, so maybe thats why

[pearl geyser]

yeah ive had a few double t7s

[solid forge]

Definitively does not help for sure

[pearl geyser]

i usually push up to 500-800, depending on where my defenses cap out without needing to go ward lol

[winter copper]

thats why

[hollow bolt]

never saw the point. i need a goal. like achievements or something. the new boss will help for sure

[solid forge]

Usually I stop around 300. If my build seems to be in the un expected exceptionnal range, I'll push to 1000 for the achievement, but not a priority

[winter copper]

lower corruption=worse exalted items

[solid forge]

Well, some CoF prophecies require 200+ corruption

[hollow bolt]

maybe 1.1 will hold my interest more with the corruption changes and the new boss. or i will be leveling to many new characters again xD

[quiet hearth]

the only problem Im having with this VK smite thing is I have zero idea what skills to use if Im just spamming smite

[pearl geyser]

are you self casting smite?

[solid forge]

I've got a limit of about 120-150h per first seasonal character out of habit from PoE

LE cycle 2 totally killed my elden ring momentum

[hollow bolt]

well you can use one of this here

[quiet hearth]

Im dw two of the first actually

[solid forge]

DW Smite Paladin is definitively fun

[hollow bolt]

ya, i dont get why Aurelis has lightning stats in it, but whatever. the first one is spicy

[quiet hearth]

because smite can be converted to lightning

[pearl geyser]

^

[hollow bolt]

it can?

[pearl geyser]

can and should a lot of the times

[solid forge]

There is a node somewhere In Sentjnel/Paladin for lightning, maybe in Javelin

[quiet hearth]

But I want to DW palarus and use devotion ammy and just stack Vit and Mana

[hollow bolt]

i know it can be convertet to void, but lightning?

[pearl geyser]

that +

[pearl geyser]

those two together are fantastic for smite proc builds

[solid forge]

Paladin definitively has lightning damage, just need to pick the right combos

[quiet hearth]

IT actually might be worth it to drop one and use that sceptre actually

[solid forge]

Smite lightning conversion nodes are top right of the tree

[quiet hearth]

actaully now that I think about it if Im scaling Vit and using devotion, the only thing I get is multi smite

[solid forge]

Just checked

[quiet hearth]

but 90% chanceto get two free smites on direct cast is good too

[pearl geyser]

well

[tribal basin]

thats 120% increased at 10 points , is it worth the investment tho :/

[hollow bolt]

this looks realy fun aktually

[pearl geyser]

hard casting it is still fewer smite casts than proccing off throws even with that 90%. tho the melee attack bit could be real fun

[quiet hearth]

Nah, direct casting and using the double cast node and the 250% dmg for some hp node

[hollow bolt]

mabye 2 setups, one selfcast for aoe from the new sward and an other one with attacks, maybe multistrike

[quiet hearth]

The big thing about palarus is you will 100% be able to find 3LP versions easy

[hollow bolt]

its common right?

[pearl geyser]

actually i like that sword less the more i think about it

[hollow bolt]

what i dont get with this thing

is attunement not normaly spell based not strenght based and melee Str and not attunement?

why is it flipped

[quiet hearth]

likely for things like warpath smite ect

[river marsh]

Prolly trying to get you to play some melee/ smite hybrid so it scales both

[quiet hearth]

I fully plan on abusing it with a beard druid though

[vivid talon]

being flipped is presumably the whole point, because it's interesting. Also allows the values to be much higher, if it was the 'right' way round it would probably have to scale half as well

[river marsh]

Dunno, my first build few years back was minion fg so I might try to make it good this time

[pearl geyser]

if the str was vitality then it'd be juicy =p

[vivid talon]

strength gives a lot of armour, still a tank stat!

[tranquil lichen]

Looking for some advice/tips with this build ... not looking to switch skills just looking to min/max this version ... Holy Trail Consecrated Aura Dmg overtime Paladin. im open to DM's ... Don't mind too much about gear it's more of a reminder list of GG affix per piece
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Ba9yYVaB

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (6) / Forge Guard (1) / Paladin (86)

General:

▸ Health: 4,022, Regen: 40/s
▸ Mana: 430, Regen: 12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 6 Dex / 6 Int / 6 Att / 53 Vit
▸ Resistances: 196% / 81% / 81% / 77% / 106% / 129% / 73%
▸ EHP: 11,110 / 11,110 / 11,110 / 13,626 / 11,110 / 11,110 / 10,892

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 1,934
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (24)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 43% (2,500)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Spell, Melee, Throwing, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

• Judgement (24)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Javelin (22)
• Healing Hands (20)
• Lunge (20)

Used unique items:

• Seed of Ekkidrasil
• Rule of the Simoon
• The Judicator

[hollow bolt]

After over 3h with you guys i think i am done for today. my head hurts. :D
i think i will go for the Forged Weapon multistrike setup and see how good it is, if not i can easy redo it to a Fire Warpath

thx for everything and have a good cycle start tomorrow

[quiet hearth]

You wanna pick trail or consecrated aura

[tranquil lichen]

playing both ... but main focus on trail with lunge

[potent remnant]

bro

when i close my esyes

I only see skills points tree from FG and shield bash

^^

[plush socket]

That void knight samurai thingy looks insane 😂😂

[quiet hearth]

the whosawhatsit?

[solid forge]

ActionRPG just posted a video about it. Seems warpath is better if you want to optimize

[hollow bolt]

oh?

[solid forge]

In my opinion, the difference are really minor and more a preference

[quiet hearth]

that's good though

[river marsh]

Multistrike solves mana issues tho, seems better for lazy people

[hollow bolt]

well, i can move while attacking with WP

gonna watch the video. thx for mentioning

[solid forge]

It's Spin2Win with minions or straight in the face with minions. You can even personnalize your vs minions contribution to damage

[winter copper]

@waxen nymph new paladin skill coming in 1.2 confirmed by mike

[hollow bolt]

i have to thank EHG for making this Ring Common

[astral lintel]

Is pally still best for bleed hammers or FG will take over after buffs?

[hollow bolt]

that ring is mendetory, holy

[winter copper]

check maxroll they minmaxed it, so if they still pala in updated guide then pala is better

but i think pala should still be better

[river marsh]

I would still be happier with full rework rather than very powerful item to balance it but it's something

[solid forge]

I'm sure there will be dozens of FG minions build popping with sometimes the only difference being whether it's your or the minions doing the damage, or maybe even 50/50

[quiet hearth]

I just realized that the VK smite node converts smites normal dmg to void, so if you convert it to lightning on the tree, does the passive take higher priority?

[winter copper]

lightning wont work

[solid forge]

Pretty sure void wins

[quiet hearth]

so am I but Im never 100%

[brittle grove]

iirc the rule of thumb is passive tree > skill tree for priority

[plush socket]

https://youtu.be/kT4NrsSzkUs?si=nrzPIB54gxYu8zHc second build

[quiet hearth]

oh a rogue build sleep

[plush socket]

Im an idiot

I was sure it was void knight since it Said void. Fml

[quiet hearth]

I mean its a cool build for sure, I jsut hate how rogue plays

[rancid lantern]

rogue got some cool unique didnt they

[quiet hearth]

ye

[rancid lantern]

Black blade of chaos? Sounds neat.

[plush socket]

Aye

[potent remnant]

eh im really into shield bash FG but I afraid that it will be weak agaisnt bosses

cheer me up guys xD

rly, my head is overheating

[turbid dome]

The boss is gonna take forever to kill you

[potent remnant]

with planning what to play xD

[turbid dome]

You don’t have to avoid 1 shot mechanics, just tank it

[potent remnant]

I feel like you can do that with all power house builds that are stacking ward ^^

bsc of their crazy dps

[tranquil lichen]

Ward has been changed/nerf sooo ...

[potent remnant]

yea

but still

you can have it like at least 4-5k

[brittle grove]

well, either the boss is gonna leave the instance of boredom or your pc shuts down, one of the 2 is going to happen first

[potent remnant]

eh still no idea xD

[brittle grove]

have you heard about our lord and saviour erasing strike yet?

[potent remnant]

who would have thought that a lot of option will be good xD

[potent remnant]

ofc, was playing it in 1.0 😄

[brittle grove]

if you play poe too long, you wont think of it

[potent remnant]

bro

dont mention about poe

[tranquil lichen]

which mastery you planning on doing shield bash btw ?

[potent remnant]

its even worst for me xD

[potent remnant]

FG

but to be honest, no idea if within next 16h I dont change my mind xD

give me ideas guys what are you gonna play

I will have 8h in my work tomorrow to get more info about ur propositions 😄 😄

[quiet hearth]

I completely forgot javelin can cast smite

[hollow bolt]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oN5JKeXB

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Forge Guard (77) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,624, Regen: 22/s
▸ Mana: 451, Regen: 17/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 7 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 87 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 92% / 81% / 78% / 107% / 98% / 74% / 76%
▸ EHP: 6,300 / 6,300 / 6,300 / 10,247 / 6,300 / 6,207 / 6,300

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 525
▸ Armor Mitigation: 68% (5,825)
▸ Block Chance: 14%, Mitigation: 19% (220)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Ring Of Shields (24)
• Forge Strike (24)
• Manifest Armor (27)
• Warpath (23)
• Sigils Of Hope (20)

Used unique items:

• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip

[fair hollow]

playing whirlwind MA

[potent remnant]

was even thinking about dev orb build, but men, this num lock thing ^^

[hollow bolt]

Autobomber?

[potent remnant]

main skill warpath?

[hollow bolt]

yes

[tranquil lichen]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Ba9yYVaB

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (6) / Forge Guard (1) / Paladin (86)

General:

▸ Health: 4,022, Regen: 40/s
▸ Mana: 430, Regen: 12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 6 Dex / 6 Int / 6 Att / 53 Vit
▸ Resistances: 196% / 81% / 81% / 77% / 106% / 129% / 73%
▸ EHP: 11,110 / 11,110 / 11,110 / 13,626 / 11,110 / 11,110 / 10,892

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 1,934
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (24)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 43% (2,500)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Spell, Melee, Throwing, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

• Judgement (24)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Javelin (22)
• Healing Hands (20)
• Lunge (20)

Used unique items:

• Seed of Ekkidrasil
• Rule of the Simoon
• The Judicator

[potent remnant]

hmm so why u take forge strike to channel main skill?

[potent remnant]

its like rf from poe?

[hollow bolt]

Basicly you generate Forged Weapons and your Forge Strike is just a stat stick for buffing your minions

Warpath is generating them

[potent remnant]

aaa I see

ah you are using 2x new rings

ok ok I got it

[potent remnant]

this one is nice but it seems like you need that spear weapon to play this?

[fair hollow]

Whirlwind MA
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q9xgDY5A

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (23) / Void Knight (10) / Forge Guard (66) / Paladin (14)

General:

▸ Health: 2,626, Regen: 355/s
▸ Mana: 287, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 85 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 78% / 81% / 81% / 97% / 89% / 67% / 85%
▸ EHP: 12,539 / 12,539 / 12,539 / 22,312 / 12,539 / 11,611 / 12,539

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 56%, Threshold: 525
▸ Armor Mitigation: 72% (7,201)
▸ Block Chance: 76%, Mitigation: 45% (1,626)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Void / Spell, Melee

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ Warpath

Used skills:

• Warpath (20)
• Manifest Armor (26)
• Ring Of Shields (22)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Healing Hands (20)

Used unique items:

• Suloron's Step
• Phantom Grip

[tranquil lichen]

not exactly .. the big DPS comes from holy trail i can stack 3 of em on bosses for exemple... Consecrated aura help whit trash clearing. you have tons of healing and mobility so it feels great

[potent remnant]

you played this already in 1.0?

[tranquil lichen]

yeah Judicator unlock the Lunge/Javelin combo to stack 3 holytrail

[tranquil lichen]

Tested it up to lvl 91 ...reached 165 corruption on pretty bad gear

[potent remnant]

ok ok nice

[tranquil lichen]

been working on it for about 2-3 days

[potent remnant]

F... another good build 😄

ok so, holytrail with judicator, void smite, erase build, FG SB

😄

[tranquil lichen]

until you get judicator you can go wand and shield and its still pretty good .. you're just a bit slower

[potent remnant]

and still poison Lich build behind all of these 😄

all would be perfect if I only know that SB is not dead end skill compare to those crazy builds that were abusing ward to like 50-60k

[tranquil lichen]

BA?

[potent remnant]

ah sorry, shield bash, corrected

[tranquil lichen]

Oh

im pretty sure Shield bash can be pretty good... you can get dmg from block effectiveness ...you can dual wield shields with the new unique and they fixed shield bash not registering most of the time XD

[wise rune]

Erasing strike with max mana stacking and mana spent gained as ward using the new unique axe https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BxlqaK6B

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (93)

General:

▸ Health: 1,330, Regen: 24/s
▸ Mana: 1,061, Regen: 15/s
▸ Ward Retention: 107%, Regen: 90/s
▸ Attributes: 31 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 20 Vit
▸ Resistances: 32% / 0% / 0% / 67% / 72% / 47% / 20%
▸ EHP: 1,403 / 1,146 / 1,146 / 2,084 / 1,948 / 1,561 / 1,294

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 389
▸ Armor Mitigation: 30% (1,443)

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Void Essence (3/3)

Used skills:

• Erasing Strike (20)
• Void Cleave (20)
• Anomaly (20)
• Abyssal Echoes (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)

Used unique items:

• World Splitter
• The Inevitable
• Wall of Nothing
• Vessel of Strife
• Julra's Stardial
• Strands of Souls

[waxen nymph]

Pog double pog even

Can we start 1.2 hype week already

[winter copper]

ya he leaked on podcast with perry

he already knows what kind of skil itll be and coming next cycle

[lost python]

Man, no FG build on LE tools 😄

Everyone is just doing it here

[wise rune]

1.1 is gonna be the only patch where people pay more attention to void knight and forge guard than paladin

[solid forge]

We are keeping them here

[lost python]

Yep

[winter copper]

check max roll, all builds there on sentinel are solid and were tested on 1k cor

[solid forge]

Unoptimised DW version for people who want to look more badass 🤣 https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BjKL0wEo

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Forge Guard (77) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,581, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 293, Regen: 9/s
▸ Ward Retention: 54%, Regen: 49/s
▸ Attributes: 32 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 62 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 146% / 91% / 91% / 118% / 74% / 83% / 100%
▸ EHP: 5,353 / 5,353 / 5,353 / 7,108 / 5,300 / 5,353 / 5,353

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 561
▸ Armor Mitigation: 52% (3,391)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Void Cleave (22)
• Sigils Of Hope (24)
• Manifest Armor (28)
• Forge Strike (24)
• Warpath (27)

Used unique items:

• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip
• Aberroth's Command
• Eye of Reen
• Vortex Pennant
• Wings of Argentus
• Logi's Hunger
• Strands of Souls
• Fiery Dragon Shoes
• Burning Avarice

[waxen nymph]

[winter copper]

[solid forge]

We are missing the 2h warpath version

[potent remnant]

this one looks cool but men, there is a lot of uniques

[inland quarry]

am i the only one playing dex stacking 'Bane of winter spear' 'mourning frost boots' hammer throw smite? bane of winter adds 40% of 'added melee damage' to your void or cold spell damage as their respective elements. basically 1 point of dex adds 1.4 points of void spell damage to your void smite (1 cold 0.4 void). 100 dex = 140 total spell damage. add that with mana stacking devotion amulet and that's an extra 100 spell flat damage. not to mention that the bane of winter inherently adds about 30 to spell damage. And then that idol buff that makes you proc smite a lot more = insane damage.

[solid forge]

Most uniques are chase, you can always replace most with double T7 exalted

[half reef]

Yes because my plan for that item is considerably more cooked. (It's a Spellblade)

[wise rune]

Yeah the only one that's really necessary is the axe but the rest of them will really upgrade it's survivability by letting you build into ward

Really all the build needs is the axe and a bunch of mana

[solid forge]

FG MA probably only has the unique ring required. Warpath DW you need the scepter.

[wise rune]

It doesn't even really have stat requirements outside of mana

[potent remnant]

hmm

[inland quarry]

i thoght about flamereave too, but i love smite and it hits 2-3x faster

[potent remnant]

seems nice

[half reef]

Pfffft. Not Flame Reave.

[potent remnant]

and the + is that it is erase strike

[half reef]

I'll send you it chengsta

[inland quarry]

alrighty i'd like to see

[wise rune]

But the axe is from a harbinger so you won't get it until late

[lost python]

on 1.1 how : ?

[solid forge]

Erasing strike spam was fun in 1.0, but this new one to make it nuclear sounds fun as well

[wise rune]

I'm really curious how much you could scale the AoE on erasing strike if you just maxed out mana cost and got the AoE node

[half reef]

A lot

[glass heart]

Is warpath void knight still gonna be viable for 1.1? Havent red the patrch notes yet xd

[wise rune]

I wanna see what it looks like so bad

[sullen nymph]

anyone know how immolator's oblation interacts with fire converted warpath?

[winter copper]

they are part of community testing program that played the game on closed client before release of the patch

[solid forge]

Don't think anything really changed for it

[sullen nymph]

do I ignite myself once per second?

[lost python]

That’s some argument for sure, will check what they thought up

[wise rune]

The tree gives you 145% area if you took all the nodes and if you also maxed out its mana cost you would be getting roughly another 200% from the axe

[winter copper]

maxroll build were always solid, its just in 1.0 there were a lot of bugged and un-intended things and they dont mike guides with that, so it was overshadowed by broke 2312k ward builds, but also they dont have all op builds there are tons of others or variation of their builds that will be meta

[solid forge]

LE has too many possible builds for maxroll to cover them all anyway, but their current ones are pretty good

[winter copper]

for sure

and letools is completely useless if you are new player and clueless about the game

cause you cant judge the power of the build and anyone can post anything there

[solid forge]

Still more beginner friendly than path of Building hahah

[winged pulsar]

It’s crazy how op all the sentinel masteries are. I feel bad for other classes

[winter copper]

COPIUM

[solid forge]

FG is still not confirmed OP

[lost python]

Crazy copium

[winged pulsar]

Kek

[solid forge]

Paladin is top of the ladder for sure

[sour elk]

Anyone have plans for the new +6 to melee skills 2H axe? I'm futzing with it right now and I can't even decide what mastery to go for

[solid forge]

Good for EHG. Paladin was so iconic in D2, it deserved to be well done over here

[winter copper]

earthquake is always a solid choice for that

[wise rune]

I've seen some people building forged weapons with it

[winter copper]

erasing strike/void cleave might be a strong possibility for this one

or erasing strike/warpath

[lost python]

Played paladin in 1.0 wanted to try something else

[winter copper]

if u go there u need to abuse bleed chance to convert to time rot

[lost python]

Healing hands was too good

[fair hollow]

that will fall over from a sneeze 😅

[sour elk]

I've been looking at Judgment + Rive + HH (+ void cleave?), but VK has two more multipliers for melee void in the mastery and yeah, VC + ES is dope

so many melee skills 😮

[potent remnant]

its like 75 mana+ 60 mana echo? does this weapon takes full costs of erasing strike as 135 mana?

or just mana use costs?

also, this one is mandatory in your build I think

[wise rune]

You replied to the wrong build lol

[turbid dome]

obliterator 👍

[wise rune]

The 60 doesn't count though so it's just 75

[potent remnant]

haha oh yea xD

to many builds here 😄

[turbid dome]

don't forget about the void beam % increase mana cost node for ES with the new mana axe

[wise rune]

And you actually don't need that node on void cleave because with the mana cost on erasing strike the axe gives you such insane base crit that you can hit max crit chance using only 1 copper ring with tier 5 crit chance on it

So void cleave isn't really part of your damage rotation it's more just a traversal skill

[vivid talon]

well if you're using anomaly, jacking up mana cost that high is overkill

[turbid dome]

I'd go for the 5 time rot and 5 void shred stacks (on void cleave) so you can make use of the 100% more dmg vs enemies with 12 time rot stacks on es (assuming you have points for it)

[vivid talon]

you only need 40% base crit to cap off anomaly alone

[wise rune]

I forgot about anomaly ngl

That's a good point

[turbid dome]

anomaly is fun

[solid forge]

Indeed, no time to balance the defenses before tomorrow sadly. I'll have to adapt on the go

[turbid dome]

how is it a forge guard with 3k armor

[solid forge]

Burn the enemy before you burn, or something

[turbid dome]

Fair enough

[solid forge]

I had the same issue with my ES VK in cycle 1 anyway, then I fixed the defenses in empowered mono

It's easier for me to reinforce the glass of the canon than improve the firepower after fortification, so to speak

[turbid dome]

Vitality 👍

[waxen nymph]

Mana Cost is different from Mana Consumed

[winter copper]

here i quickly wrote down part of the planner https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AVkPl5gQ idea is that you need to stack 12 time rots super fast on enemy to get insane multipleirs on void cleave and erasing strike, and axe has 190% base bleed chance which all gets converted, then you need

1. get axe with lp to cap crit
2. get 600+ mana so u can spam erasing strike due to void well
   3)get enough bleed/time rot chance, ideally you want to get 12 stacks from 2 hits of erasing strike
3. get 4-6k hp
   5)get boots with experimental haste t5 affix
4. cap all basic defenses

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (63) / Forge Guard (20)

General:

▸ Health: 2,760, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 527, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 17 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 32% / 38% / 47% / 24% / 56% / 14% / 14%
▸ EHP: 4,548 / 4,139 / 4,446 / 4,384 / 4,548 / 3,535 / 3,535

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 552
▸ Armor Mitigation: 35% (1,861)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Melee, Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Erasing Strike (28)
• Void Cleave (28)
• Vengeance (26)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Anomaly (20)

Used unique items:

• Sword Catcher
• Titan Heart
• Orian's Eye

[turbid dome]

wouldn't you want a terror crown for the helmet base

and seal something so you can have both mana affixes and a vitality affix on it

[solid forge]

I don't remember needing 600 mana on my ES build. Let me check

[winter copper]

did you spam it or played with void cleave auto crit its two completely different builds

[turbid dome]

^

[wise rune]

Also if you played void beacon that reduces erasing strike cost

[solid forge]

Dual wield spam

[winter copper]

you can do that with 400 mana and 1 point into echo, for 2 echoes u need 650+ ideally 700

[solid forge]

I had 200 mana and doing fine

[winter copper]

huh? even with 1 point into echoes 200 mana is 60 mana refund, thats literally 1 attack

no way you can spam erasing strike with that without going oom

[sour elk]

Thanks! The void essence on crit -> 30% mana refund is pretty sweet tech

[winter copper]

ya and also void cleave with 12 bleed/time rot stacks nukes anything in the game

[solid forge]

I don't remember how I did it, but I was doing 300+ corr no problem

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Forge Guard (77) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,581, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 293, Regen: 9/s
▸ Ward Retention: 54%, Regen: 49/s
▸ Attributes: 32 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 62 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 146% / 91% / 91% / 118% / 74% / 83% / 100%
▸ EHP: 5,353 / 5,353 / 5,353 / 7,108 / 5,300 / 5,353 / 5,353

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 561
▸ Armor Mitigation: 52% (3,391)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Void Cleave (22)
• Sigils Of Hope (24)
• Manifest Armor (28)
• Forge Strike (24)
• Warpath (27)

Used unique items:

• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip
• Aberroth's Command
• Eye of Reen
• Vortex Pennant
• Wings of Argentus
• Logi's Hunger
• Strands of Souls
• Fiery Dragon Shoes
• Burning Avarice

[solid forge]

Wait wrong link lol

[turbid dome]

Le Tools Bot cares not

[solid forge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qbz75OWQ

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.4

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Void Knight (86) / Paladin (5)

General:

▸ Health: 2,344, Regen: 51/s
▸ Mana: 226, Regen: 11/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 29 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 11 Att / 13 Vit
▸ Resistances: 91% / 68% / 59% / 60% / 80% / 49% / 74%
▸ EHP: 5,054 / 4,715 / 4,373 / 6,330 / 5,054 / 4,000 / 5,019

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 49%, Threshold: 557
▸ Armor Mitigation: 60% (4,295)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Melee, Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Erasing Strike (25)
• Vengeance (21)
• Healing Hands (23)
• Anomaly (21)
• Volatile Reversal (24)

Used unique items:

• Siphon of Anguish
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

[winter copper]

well no way you can hold button and spam es on that character, you refund only 1 attack cost

so u get 1 free erasing strike every 3 seconds

[solid forge]

I was timing the echoes with my right click if I re,eber right, getting a vengeance hit in-between or something like that

[winter copper]

ye thats fine

its mainly on bosses

cause there u just want to hold button and nuke it

[abstract edge]

you boys think ignite shield forge strike/manifest armor will do enough damage? something like https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BjKLN1xo

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (77) / Paladin (16)

General:

▸ Health: 1,544, Regen: 30/s
▸ Mana: 190, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 1 Dex / 6 Int / 23 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 96% / 100% / 126% / 82% / 78% / 89% / 65%
▸ EHP: 4,938 / 4,938 / 4,938 / 6,459 / 4,938 / 4,938 / 4,468

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 43%, Threshold: 309
▸ Armor Mitigation: 51% (3,225)
▸ Block Chance: 62%, Mitigation: 50% (2,051)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Multistrike (22)
• Ring Of Shields (24)
• Sigils Of Hope (22)
• Forge Strike (26)
• Manifest Armor (24)

Used unique items:

• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip
• Logi's Hunger
• Maehlin's Hubris

[vivid talon]

do you know what minimum max mana to spam ES is in practice Misha? I assume about 500?

[solid forge]

Ah yeah, on bosses I had to hit with vengeance sometimes, but that was like 1-2s to full mana again

[vivid talon]

not actually played an ES spammer

[barren spire]

@winter copper tell what should i play, I will do any sentinel you tell me xD

[solid forge]

Seems there are 2 kinds of spammers. The ones just hitting right click once and keeping it pressed and the ones doing a vengeance hit while the echoes are hitting.

The 12 rot bomb happens in both cases though

[tranquil lichen]

at first glance i'd say you wont be able to stack enough ignite to make it matter.... maybe going melee Fire dmg would be better

[winter copper]

anything bleed/hammers/healing hands should be easy and great starter/endagme

[barren spire]

do you have any guide I could follow?

[potent remnant]

NO!!

DONT DO THAT!!!

DONT GIVE ME ANOTHER BUILDS TO MY " WHAT THE F SHOULD I PLAY AT START" LIST!

[serene bough]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BjK85DWo i am planning to start this and part of me thinks the shield will be much harder to get than relic

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (24) / Forge Guard (57) / Paladin (32)

General:

▸ Health: 1,920, Regen: 22/s
▸ Mana: 272, Regen: 12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 16%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 149 Str / 4 Dex / 4 Int / 57 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 119% / 103% / 117% / 89% / 114% / 98% / 131%
▸ EHP: 16,932 / 16,932 / 16,932 / 40,706 / 16,932 / 16,932 / 16,932

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 384
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (16)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 82% (19,258)
▸ Block Chance: 74%, Mitigation: 77% (7,868)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Spell, Melee, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Ring Of Shields (25)
• Sigils Of Hope (25)
• Shield Bash (21)
• Javelin (21)
• Rebuke (21)

Used unique items:

• Horns of Uhkeiros
• Monument of Protection
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

[turbid dome]

hey look ward decay threshold stacking druid

[potent remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-no-no-god-please-no-gif-25861594

[winter copper]

anything on maxroll was tested on 1k new corruption and good, so honestly you can just pick something from there its just not all builds there are good starters

[solid forge]

Look up serpent strike

[turbid dome]

[potent remnant]

no gifs???

[turbid dome]

woe, no gifs upon you

[potent remnant]

fine, I will do it myself xD

[turbid dome]

😱

[vale ravine]

does anybody have a DPS calculator for ES by any chance?

[serene bough]

did i go over kill on defense as looking at my phy ehp being 40k vs most of the builds here having 5-6k how much do you need

[solid forge]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-yes-nod-agree-gif-11928667053720670991

Dman it, I got gif craped as well

[potent remnant]

no worry, I know that gif xD

[tranquil lichen]

i think you link the wrong build because i see 4k not 40

[cerulean sorrel]

how are you dealing with mana? on bash?

[abstract edge]

im getting something like... 440 ignite on forged weapons, 650 on manifest armor, 420 on self. that's not enough?

[serene bough]

it cost 9 and has very slow unmoddble speed so 12 regen should be enough

[tranquil lichen]

got confused My bad XD

[cerulean sorrel]

your shield increases mana cost by 50%, and you will be shield bashing more than 2x per sec

[solid forge]

I can't play elden ring dlc, the LE hype got me

[wooden rune]

if you go a Shield Bash Build what is better Paladin or FG or are they close enough to eachother?

[solid forge]

I'd say they are close

[serene bough]

its base is 1.5 per sec and at most can get 50% speed from tree i can get more mana regen or take away the speed node

more than 2 per sec is only at 100% block chance

[cerulean sorrel]

i mean if you are shield bashing you will have get 100% block chance

[tranquil lichen]

i'm more concerned about how many hit per second you'll be doing ... ignite chance is great but if you hit 2-3 time a second you wont stack that many i feel like

[tranquil lichen]

just to be sure ... this is your build link right https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BjKLN1xo

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (77) / Paladin (16)

General:

▸ Health: 1,544, Regen: 30/s
▸ Mana: 190, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 1 Dex / 6 Int / 23 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 96% / 100% / 126% / 82% / 78% / 89% / 65%
▸ EHP: 4,938 / 4,938 / 4,938 / 6,459 / 4,938 / 4,938 / 4,468

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 43%, Threshold: 309
▸ Armor Mitigation: 51% (3,225)
▸ Block Chance: 62%, Mitigation: 50% (2,051)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Multistrike (22)
• Ring Of Shields (24)
• Sigils Of Hope (22)
• Forge Strike (26)
• Manifest Armor (24)

Used unique items:

• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip
• Logi's Hunger
• Maehlin's Hubris

[serene bough]

i have almost 300 mana and can just span rebuke if i need to get some back

[abstract edge]

yeah, went with rare gear too not inflate the stats. it has x12 forged weapons, so seems like hits won't be an issue

[serene bough]

Forge gaurd is always better than palidin because ring of sheilds is busted

50% increased blcok eff is somehting you can not pass up

[cerulean sorrel]

I see alot of claims that paladin is better but i dont really understand why

for shield bash that is

[winged pulsar]

With shield bash shenanigans the scaling with ring of shields op but they have to actually heal something right? It shouldn’t proc if you are a minion is full hp

[serene bough]

they heal every 6 sec and on death

[solid forge]

We are all battling with advanced builds, but we also need to reach empowered relatively fast first, so post your top starters as well. Maxroll are subpar for that.

[tranquil lichen]

ok i missed this part... well yeah , assuming you can maintain your forged weapon it should do enough to make ignite worth it ! as i said if you feel like its not doing enough just go melee fire and inc fire dmg instead of DoT and you should be good 😄

[cerulean sorrel]

thats why I like bulwark of last abyss instead

[turbid dome]

I can post my goofy ms paint starter vk again

[winged pulsar]

Ya but the buff only triggers if you aren’t 100% hp I thought?

[solid forge]

Go ahead, I forgot to make a back up of my ES VK starter

[cerulean sorrel]

if its like the paladin node, you actually need to get healed for it to proc

[serene bough]

thats a good questone i should ask

[winged pulsar]

Ya the HH traversal node works where you they can’t be 100% on the heal so I’m assuming same for RoS

[turbid dome]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QqGpRXMo here ya go, no exalted or legendaries were used in this build

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (36) / Void Knight (77)

General:

▸ Health: 3,511, Regen: 153/s
▸ Mana: 103, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 49 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 78 Vit
▸ Resistances: 70% / 75% / 60% / 117% / 110% / 105% / 78%
▸ EHP: 8,743 / 9,224 / 7,986 / 16,430 / 9,224 / 9,224 / 9,224

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 702
▸ Armor Mitigation: 72% (7,219)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Melee, Spell

Buffs:

▸ Void Essence (3/3), Void Aegis

Used skills:

• Rive (20)
• Void Cleave (20)
• Erasing Strike (22)
• Rebuke (22)
• Lunge (20)

Used unique items:

• Apostate's Sanctuary
• Apathy's Maw
• Darkstride

[turbid dome]

wow that image got super compressed

[solid forge]

Somehow I think I already saw that one somewhere

[turbid dome]

I posted it on reddit

[solid forge]

Ah! Must be it

[turbid dome]

here my amazing ms paint artwork with more than 500 pixels

[abstract edge]

haha yeah crit fire seems like it will be meta

[solid forge]

I'm afraid to say the planner is cleaner to understand.

[turbid dome]

your not wrong

[quiet hearth]

I forgot judgement got buffed, I might run that

[sullen nymph]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olY79NOA anyone have any ideas of how I can spend a bunch of mana with this build? Was originally going to use immolator's oblation to do a bunch of self dmg to reduce my mana with seed of ekkidrasil but realized it doesn't work with my smite procs since you actually have to cast the spells manually to self ignite. Should i just cut mana regen and shift some points to make warpath cost more? Or is it viable to just let taking dmg from enemies be the main way I reduce my mana, since my mana regen should be roughly equal to my warpath cost

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (5) / Paladin (78)

General:

▸ Health: 2,834, Regen: 36/s
▸ Mana: 1,483, Regen: 18/s
▸ Ward Retention: 12%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 3 Dex / 3 Int / 66 Att / 16 Vit
▸ Resistances: 234% / 107% / 137% / 81% / 87% / 108% / 77%
▸ EHP: 5,914 / 5,914 / 5,914 / 6,894 / 5,914 / 5,914 / 5,914

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 57%, Threshold: 1,156
▸ Armor Mitigation: 36% (1,888)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical, Void / Spell, Melee, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ Ambition (20/20), Holy Aura (Passive), Warpath

Used skills:

• Warpath (20)
• Smite (24)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Javelin (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)

Used unique items:

• Devotion
• Firestarter's Torch
• Palarus's Sacred Light
• Seed of Ekkidrasil
• Throne of Ambition

[solid forge]

Just don't judge yourself too harshly if you don't reach 1000 corr

[quiet hearth]

I dont care about corruption pushing, if I want to do that there are enough builds that can. Not every build has to push to the endest of end game.

[tranquil lichen]

if you proc smite just set sigil of hope in your skill bar and spam it

[solid forge]

The corruption was just an excuse for the judgment joke, alas my divine humor was lost

[quiet hearth]

Im also kinda dumb so dont feel bad, i didnt even think of that xD

I honestly cant decide if Palarus or the gloves are better for Judgement

[solid forge]

You'll have to test it out

[quiet hearth]

I'm thinking dw palarus wins out if you're scaling the consecrated aura

[solid forge]

DW wins by default just for being cooler

[quiet hearth]

I dunno, running around slapping god into people is fun too

[solid forge]

True enough.

[quiet hearth]

palarus also gives another way to cast smite

[solid forge]

I just need to fix my dw addiction

[quiet hearth]

I refuse, I fully intend to dw those on a werebear

[solid forge]

I've turned like 5 popular PoE builds into DW Ascendant already

Tomorrow, it will be FG

Glorious dual burning maniac

I'm just missing a fire mtx

[quiet hearth]

honestly it doesnt matter what I play, once I get Event Horizon it's over, because every build will be that in some form

[solid forge]

Lol

[quiet hearth]

I made a warpath build that one spin took almost 2s on paper

[solid forge]

You have quite the crush for a weapon

[quiet hearth]

It's more the goofy things it enables

[potent remnant]

what builds do you think will be safe to say to push it to 1k corru?

[quiet hearth]

apparently I said a bad word that I didnt know zucker (s) is banned apparently xD

[solid forge]

Anything on maxroll corruption tier list to begin with

Good thing with maxroll LE builds, they can either be followed as is or you can use the individual ideas to add to your own. They did a pretty good job with LE

[barren spire]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/smite-hammer-throw-void-knight-guide

What you guys think about this one? @winter copper

[zenith blaze]

you can't play atm in offline mode?

[potent remnant]

im playing rn

[tranquil lichen]

you gotta set steam to launch in offline

[zenith blaze]

can you give me a quick rundown on how to do that?

[solid forge]

It's the void version of the paladin hammer bleed, so of course it will work

[barren spire]

is the paladin one better or?

[zenith blaze]

100% paladin is better

[solid forge]

Barely better I think. They are pretty much equal

[barren spire]

What you two said is exactly the opposite so xD

[solid forge]

At some point you become limited by the items more than the build when they are already top tier anyway

[solid forge]

He said better and I said barely better. Pretty much the same.

[tranquil lichen]

right click Last Epoch -> Properties -> in the Launch option add --offline

[barren spire]

is smite or bleed hammerdin better at this point?

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/smite-hammerdin-guide

Or

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/bleed-hammerdin-guide

[cold rose]

How far can we take a devouring orb vk corruption wise?

[potent remnant]

smite one, if a bit annoying at start, idols are mandatory otherwise cant play it so you need to level in diff build if you like it, no problem then

[quiet hearth]

I had no idea there was a mana on smite affix

[cerulean sorrel]

you dont need all idols on smite hammerdin anymore aswell

[solid forge]

Bleed is a better starter from what I know

[potent remnant]

do you mean this weapon? (dont remmeber on what uniq is that effect)

[cerulean sorrel]

nah the idols can get up to 25% chance to proc on throwing attacks per idol but cap at 5/s

4 idols is overkill now, you can get away with 2-3 which allows the build to open up earlier

[solid forge]

Nobody is talking about the Solo Arena Paladin build winner interestingly

[solar mural]

that build got giga NERFED, so i dont think it will be able to do the same after patch 😄

[solid forge]

Obviously, but doubt it will end up totally neutered either

[solar mural]

survavility got a big hit with the ward nerfs, like 10 times, and spell dmg on the hh bolts was cut in half,

[solid forge]

I'm surr they will find work arounds like usual

[pearl geyser]

When shield throw richochets off of MA does that count as a hit for smite idols?

[tribal basin]

guys 😐 i found our lost DR ... it was always there where nobody has looked for it

[solar mural]

they do

[winter copper]

where!?

[tribal basin]

i found 50% Less damage taken and 50% more Armor

[tranquil lichen]

feels like bait

[tribal basin]

Nobody uses Vengeance

its not a real skill

[winter copper]

well its 50% increase but we already were using it

at least people who know what they are doing

😏

[tribal basin]

it not increased ... its Less

[winter copper]

no i meant armor

[tribal basin]

oh right its increased not More Armor

tbh , i never looked at Vengeances skill tree XD

[charred stag]

has anyone made a paladin build using the new palarus unique sword?

[tribal basin]

Only Theoretized for now

[winged pulsar]

Sentinels are just too darn op. Vengeance alone makes you immortal

[tribal basin]

I get that feeling slowly ...

the more i think about it

[opal sun]

Do you think the VK smite build will still be playable in 1.1

I came back from deployment and didn’t get as far as I’d like in 1.0 or will it swap to pally

[midnight pine]

probably going void knight of some kind.. what are my options? really only have time to play and min/max one build per season so i need a solid "all arounder"

[charred stag]

I thought bleed hammerdin is better than smite in 1.1?

[twilit valley]

How long until 1.1 launch

[minor elbow]

#💬┃general message

[twilit valley]

Thanks

So offline is down also ?

[vivid talon]

no. https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1259910320558702726

[fallow crater]

Will strength stacking be viable at all for Forge Guard? With the understanding of "it's still forge guard". With 100 strength you can get +50% crit multi and 20% fire/phys pen and 32 strength from the tree, which seems pretty solid on top of the other benefits

[serene bough]

forged weapons scale off attumenet only i think

yep just checked

[fallow crater]

Thinking a no minion build - either Rive, Forge Strike + Detonating Ground, or Smelters Wrat?

[serene bough]

then yes str stacking should work for all

[fallow crater]

Thanks - just trying to take advantage of the new nodes

[serene bough]

wait nvm Bleed and ignite don't scale off str remember that

[half reef]

They do if the applying skill scales off strength

[silk moon]

Any good FG minions build around?

[serene bough]

does it i can't find anything on that topic

[half reef]

It does, attributes are really just converted into generic stats for the skills and ailments inherit all generic modifiers from their applying skills.

[fallow crater]

Wait so my ignite does more damage based off my strength for forge strike/detonating ground ?

Was just thinking of crit anyway given the free crit multi

[half reef]

Yup.

[outer abyss]

Hi guys, I want to play warpath build scaling physical/bleed, currently trying to put it together on builder. Wonder what skills you guys recommend to include... So far I got Holy Aura & Sigils, then I'm stuck thinking other skills are useless to my build.. Can anyone shed some light on this?

I know that the dev discourage 1 button build but I really like warpath..

[turbid dome]

Can’t you get warpath to auto cast smite

[quiet hearth]

yep

[outer abyss]

How so? Please tell 🙂 I dont see any warpath nodes in smite or vise-versa

[spark solar]

hey chat, is the nova hammerdin still gonna be op in the new season?

thinkin of playing the same build I used to to clear 300+ corruption in season 1.0

[outer abyss]

nvm guys my bad founs it in warpath skill nodes

[spark solar]

did they fix how seals work? do I have to apply it manually

[quiet hearth]

I just realized with FG the hammer of Lorent is actually gonna be one of the better early game items because that flat melee phys per lvl and how easy it is to get LP on it.

[winter copper]

yes but its better on fg now

but only slightly

pala still huge

[solemn harbor]

I was thinking of being silly with Warpath Healing Hands... Depending on how much mana regen I can amass... It wouldn't be as good as Rive, but it might be funnier.

[winter copper]

what is warpath healing hands?

you proc hh only once with WP

or you gonna spam click it?

[solemn harbor]

Oh that's right...

I always forget that it doesn't count hits as attacks...

Fine, Rive HH it is...

Like, why can't we have HH get an internal CD as a proc'd attack, when it's not used as selfcast, so we could have it on dumb things like Warpath...

[quiet hearth]

for that very reason lol

[solemn harbor]

I mean, if it's put on a .75-1 second internal CD when Proc'd instead of selfcast, it wouldn't be going off that often. While it would nerf the Rive version, it would also allow them to buff the skill for attack reasons. And lift the restriction.

[pearl geyser]

well thats quite good then. should be able to get just under the 5 casts per second with new smite idol even on single target

[vale ravine]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A6xVYmGB
another take on ES builds if somebody i interested maybe in a variant with the following parameters:
1: world splitter cause it's fun, you are already doing insane damage and I like my VK with cleave as a traversal skill, sue me 😄
2: even thought it has cleave it is still a "spammable ES" build, crit capped without Obliterator
3: giga hyper uber high budget, not for CoF (you could argue two legendries are maybe even unrealistic, but hey chase items keeps me in the game)
4: huge focus on survivability for pushing (20k+ EHP against any kinds of one shots, 40+ against phys)
5: still 6.45M ES hits according to my calculator (not counting armor shred and void pen/res)

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (93)

General:

▸ Health: 4,919, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 743, Regen: 12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 56 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 58 Vit
▸ Resistances: 76% / 59% / 58% / 69% / 65% / 75% / 75%
▸ EHP: 17,328 / 14,938 / 14,747 / 29,051 / 15,681 / 17,242 / 17,242

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 59%, Threshold: 984
▸ Armor Mitigation: 72% (7,260)

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Abyssal Echoes (21)
• Void Cleave (23)
• Erasing Strike (25)
• Volatile Reversal (21)
• Anomaly (21)

Used unique items:

• World Splitter
• Titan Heart
• Shattered Chains
• Oceareon
• Siphon of Anguish
• Darkstride
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

[pearl geyser]

does this work if your minion kills something?

[quiet hearth]

No, you yourself must do the deed

[serene bough]

its here forge guard is just op for shield bash

[quiet hearth]

man, phantom grips are dumb af, I can all but hit crit cap with two of them with a 2h mace

[leaden totem]

dont u think that 743 mana is a bit low?

[vale ravine]

only have 1 in Time Loop, and if you want more just switch around mana and crit multi on ammy

[solemn harbor]

...Me over here with like base level mana always staring at the phat 743 pool... >.>

[vale ravine]

the values the bot linked somehow not pointing to the real link, but you can have 910, with 5780 HP

[nova vapor]

What is the best way to use event horizon? using HH as a channel negates the attack speed debuff since it hits 4 times regardless. Any other ways?

[leaden totem]

sounds good. I would prefer to sacrifice some hp to gain more mana instead.

[vale ravine]

room for that for sure, all my T7s are HP affixes so can just easily switch around some with T5 mana affixes on the same items to adjust ratio to your liking

[leaden totem]

pretty doable. will try to make that build. but using rive i think.

[vale ravine]

meh, I will come back to Rive when it gets a full void conversion, not before lol

[quiet hearth]

I wonder if smelters wrath is gonna be worth it

because these are some pretty big numbers

Using the new super hammer, you just charge up an ungodly amount of more dmg multipliers and erase things

So against bosses and rares, the tree can get about 130% more multi

[lone olive]

I think I am going to mess around with Forged Weapons 1st 🙂

and the new rings

[quiet hearth]

the new rings are OP hands down

[serene bough]

are the rings class locked they are not on the site but necro getting +4 all minion and +8 minion crit seems insane

[lone olive]

ya excited to check em out

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwjMBYA4g

on the site @serene bough

[quiet hearth]

ACTUALLY I could use those on my volitile zombies into explosive infernal shades build

[serene bough]

is it not in the normal place

[winter copper]

on serious node ailments weapons are million times stronger, for which rings might be still huge depending if unique modifiers like from salt the wounds apply to them or not, otherwise its eh

if you want to use those rings and abuse crit, then you should use the new axe with frenzy

[serene bough]

ohhh it a me problem i worded my sentance wrong

i need to learn to use comas online

[lone olive]

lol

[lone olive]

YOLO

im sure some big brain streamer will tell me the most giga best broken build

lmao

[winter copper]

not with forged wepons for sure, but ngl its one of the most solid starters/300 cor farmers

so u should be fine

[pearl geyser]

im just assuming the aoe mod on gloves works on MA so can get big big whirlwinds

[lone olive]

you'd be surprised =X

[serene bough]

phantom grip things

[lone olive]

nice haha

[winter copper]

nooooo

[quiet hearth]

he has assembled his armies

[serene bough]

i really thought it was a mistake it was not class locked the base stats are insane

but ehh take the money and run

[quiet hearth]

Yeah, I think the same thing about the new smite sword and spell werebear

[winged pulsar]

i wonder if theyll change the HH node that doesnt work unless health is restored as well

[quiet hearth]

2:1 str to spell dmg

[cold rose]

what are you league starting 1.1 misha?

[cold dock]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdK2v9YA this was my "completed" version

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (73) / Forge Guard (20)

General:

▸ Health: 1,414, Regen: 24/s
▸ Mana: 1,367, Regen: 19/s
▸ Ward Retention: 107%, Regen: 90/s
▸ Attributes: 89 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 16 Vit
▸ Resistances: 65% / 33% / 45% / 62% / 78% / 38% / 38%
▸ EHP: 4,705 / 3,645 / 3,997 / 7,143 / 5,176 / 3,764 / 3,764

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 57%, Threshold: 836
▸ Armor Mitigation: 65% (5,324)

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Void Essence (3/3)

Used skills:

• Erasing Strike (21)
• Void Cleave (21)
• Anomaly (21)
• Abyssal Echoes (21)
• Volatile Reversal (21)

Used unique items:

• World Splitter
• The Inevitable
• Wall of Nothing
• Vessel of Strife
• Julra's Stardial
• Strands of Souls
• Font of the Erased
• Nihilis

[winged pulsar]

Im not sure if Misha has what it takes to play a sentinel. This class class aint for everyone.

[cold dock]

needed 1x Crit chance roll on font of erased or idol

otherwise idols just there for finish resistances

[vivid talon]

it's like you're asking her to get mad at you 🤣

[winter copper]

wdymm q,q

im starting as fg

patch is awful tho

😡 😡

[cold rose]

lmao you always complain but always play sentinel

[winter copper]

thats a given for sentinel main

[cold rose]

hopefully one day ehg will reward your loyalty

Inb4 SENTINEL BUFFS - MISHA PATCH

[winter copper]

there were like 10 people playing sentinel 5 years ago and pushing ladder, now its 2, from those

others either quit the game or switched to other classes

😦

[hushed dove]

How much more do you think Sentinel needs to be where you want it to be?

[cold rose]

i really like sentinel but i dont push as high as you guys

played a bunch of 2h mace ES on 1.0

comfy

🔨

[winter copper]

honestly, we need to wait for 1.2, cause passive trees are nice and everything but main issue with sentinel is skills...well and defenses, they made defenses slowly a bit better(even then its too explensive) but we didnt get any significant skill reworks besides shield bash

[pearl geyser]

i feel bad for anyone who didnt experience birdlady in 1.0 before the nerfs. absolutely busted. will be fun to be slightly more balanced

[hushed dove]

Come over to the Spellblade side until 1.2

[winter copper]

they promised rework of VR in 1,2 and buffing all skills to compensate for damage loss, so...we will see how it pans out

[hushed dove]

Together we can make ignite work 😅

[serene bough]

to be fair sentinel has been and still is busted op for party play it makes sense the aura class is hard to balance

[hushed dove]

A few more months til 1.2 though

[winter copper]

the only reasons it was busted is volatile reversal debuf that doubles the damage of whole party, anomaly garanteed cc and healing hands ward

out of those 3 HH ward giga nerfed, anomaly cc disabled

so its still good, but only because of some ward+ volatile debuff

[cold rose]

need my mage vk devouring orb

explosion casts ES for free

[winter copper]

but even then its questionable since you need to put LL affix for party memeber to abuse HH ward, but why would anyone do that if they already can reach high ward on decent build, and due to new formula its almost impossible to go past 20k ward

[winged pulsar]

Most the HH builds I cooked up feel best around 7k stable ward now

[winter copper]

thats my calculations as well

and sorc/acolyte can reach 10k without any paladin support

[cold rose]

damn mages

[winter copper]

you can still buff party members with 10k+armor and resists

so thats good

[spring pollen]

Any advice or tricks to build an ailment forge weapon build? Im currently running crit, but saw you say ailment can be much better. When i tried ailment in the past it was ok, but i couldnt push nearly as high. Just curious if there was something big i was missing 🙂

[winged pulsar]

All aboard the mage/acolyte hate train

[winter copper]

just run shield throw+MA or warpath(or multistrike)+forge strike+MA u cant go wrong with it

[cold rose]

magic = heretics

unless its void

[winter copper]

stack str and all the bleed u can

[cold rose]

because purple is cool

[winter copper]

you and your minions will both deal dmg

[cold rose]

😎

[spring pollen]

Ok cool. I think i was running ignite before, will give bleed a try

Tyvm

[winter copper]

tbh the only reason im salty abt this patch is because there is sorc, which 100% was outclassed by RM in every single aspect, but it was still stronger than sentinel masteries(excluding bugged healing hands) and there was fg which was trash(excluding HH again)

1.1 came sentinel was double nerfed with HH gutting and removal of anvil stance, meanwhile RM passives(that sorc can abuse) were untouched and sorc passives were super buffed

[cold rose]

how long till the 1st pinnacle dies Misha?

[cold rose]

yea this sucks tbh lol

[winter copper]

2 days, we got some tryhards 4 man stacking

maybe 15hours

😓

[cold rose]

ah that sucks

i thought it would only count if its solo

[winter copper]

i dont think they said that

[cold rose]

rip

mage is pretty busted now right

all the masteries are very okay

together with acolyte

[winged pulsar]

Assuming servers work 15 hours is a pretty safe bet

[cold rose]

except lich maybe?

rogue only mm kinda sucks now

[turbid dome]

reaper form is cool tho

[cold rose]

yea

it gain points because of visuals for sure

gameplay ux is pretty cool too, very fast class

[winged pulsar]

Reaper form gets a pass

[turbid dome]

lich is fun with the soul mass thing that turns drain life into a machinegun laser beam

[cold rose]

ye thats funny

i like the visuals

[turbid dome]

plus lich is built for low life ward

[cold rose]

of the vk autobomber so much

[turbid dome]

true

[cold rose]

sad its not a proper build

the little void things

reaching out monsters

when you get near them

👌

like little hands from the abyss

[fallow crater]

Still shook to learn that str can buff ailments

[winter copper]

attribute stacking is best scaling

if you check any build besides ailment elemental dot builds ull notice they all do that

[wary tapir]

Im kinda tempted to just start as shield bash even tho i know it's a terrible idea

[fallow crater]

Put to the Sword node in Forge Strike only converts Crit Multi from the TREE of forge strike, not elsewhere in the passives? So it won't benefit from the crit multi per strength passive node?

[void onyx]

It will be interesting to see what the top performing builds are for this upcoming season

[twilit valley]

I’ll start off with rive until I find all my gear for end game build

[void onyx]

Not even sure I'm going sentinel yet

Went heavy rouge and sentinel at real launch and kind if want to test other chars

[winged pulsar]

Hear me out. If I play a mage or acolyte and just put “sentinel” in my character name… then sentinel is now tanky and op.

[turbid dome]

[tribal basin]

Guys ... Echoed Void Cleaves wont buff Forged weapons with Molten Infusion right ?

[quiet hearth]

Correct, the echoes are not you

[turbid dome]

Their you but from a timeline that’s a second behind our time line

[quiet hearth]

They are lag personified

[wary tapir]

is it better to go 1h or 2h for warpath setups?

[quiet hearth]

entirely depends on the build

[outer abyss]

My guess is 1H utilise shield off hand for block, or 2H without using shield (block)

[quiet hearth]

there are some dw ones too, ignite is one, eye of reen and a scepre for the pen

[outer abyss]

Off topic, just want to rant.. Spend 2 hours creating a loot filter for my build, still not sure it works exactly how I wants it =..=

[wary tapir]

oh heck, i forgot that i probably need to make a loot filter for my build too

I would rather not though

[polar spire]

Too bad eye of reen warpath is rip

Correct me if im wrong and misremembering, but didnt they change the effect on the weapon this patch to require a on next hit, like HH so warpath doesnt work for it anymore?

[bright nest]

Doubt is creeping in on the forge strike minions build

I'm looking at the numbers of other builds and god damn

[cursive compass]

who is going VK healing hands rive

that fat chest is a must

20% DR

and overleech

[quiet hearth]

So triggered attacks wont work, WP is a direct attack

[polar spire]

oh so i got it backwards

lol

[tribal basin]

Lag Knight , Australian Internet Knight .... hmm well there goes an attempt to get them to 550+ Flat damage

[polar spire]

or hold up

maybe not

depends on if they have the new effect as requiring multiple taps and not a hold like warpath

i still remember when HH dropped and all the sad HH users

warpath* users

had a buddy that made a mouse macro to spam tap warpath and hold for a split second and made it work with HH, lmfao

tap and hold for half a sec, release, tap and hold for half a sec, release
then just had it loop on a mouse side button

we be them old G502 users

[quiet hearth]

It's based on hitting, warpath constantly hits, what wouldnt do it is something like the vengeance reposte

[winter copper]

no you are misunderstanding, this means that new eye or freen requires a direct use to gain each stack

sp wp ois rip

[quiet hearth]

I dont think that is correct, but will just have to see in game

I got like 8hrs to figure out what Im gonna play

[unreal niche]

Is this what bleed hammer pally would look like before transitioning to spell crit warpath? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QD8ZWPRQ

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (6) / Paladin (42)

General:

▸ Health: 1,427, Regen: 30/s
▸ Mana: 126, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 9 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 52% / 52% / 52% / 20% / 20% / 56% / 7%
▸ EHP: 2,031 / 2,031 / 2,031 / 1,740 / 1,612 / 2,100 / 1,487

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 46%, Threshold: 297
▸ Armor Mitigation: 21% (813)
▸ Block Chance: 37%, Mitigation: 34% (906)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 25%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical, Void / Spell, Melee, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

• Hammer Throw (20)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Warpath (20)
• Smite (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)

Used unique items:

• Avarice

[unreal niche]

Is Penance/Redemption too cute?

[quiet hearth]

Go LL ward, ignore bleed, shed your mortal coil