it was 5 second
#💀┃acolyte
dusty onyx
reaper form cd is longer as well
lost gale
but it didn't give you 90% damage smearing before
dusty onyx
for more down time
lost gale
which is a really fantastic defensive layer
lost gale
No its still like 5
https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/death_seal I think you have some CDR, it's listed at 10
hollow flint
thats actually my current build. The only reason I dont use the frenzy belt currently is because its bugged and doesnt scale frenzy with strength at all and its stats dont scale with frenzy either
stuck owlBOT
main stratus
thats actually my current build. The only reason I dont use the frenzy belt curr...
Damn, I figured someone must be doing it 😄 Cool ^^
man, you even got last bear. I love that set
hollow flint
yeah, its a really cheap way to get 30 strength early
median pebble
how is the damage compared to mana stack c-bolt flay?
main stratus
yeah, its a really cheap way to get 30 strength early
Yup. I'm gonna do a second primalist alt using harmony, and my idea was to put rank 1 last bear on 3 gear pieces
like 1-2 mod items, that just give set bonus
I hope they still count as magic with set mod, will have to see
winged flame
Yup. I'm gonna do a second primalist alt using harmony, and my idea was to put r...
You can have 2 affixes and 1 sealed iirc
main stratus
I guess harmony is lvl 16, so I can probably fit 3 mods without pushing lvl req too high I guess
winged flame
I don't remember if 2 or 3 affixes counts as magic or it goes up to rare with 3
main stratus
I'll test around with the alt, I couldnt get vendors to sell me low items even in chapter one on my main, so I'll do all science when I start lvling
half kelp
any of my acolyte mates want to help me with how to finish act 10... i think its bugged. i did the observers prison sequence, spoke to eterra, touched the epoch, it teleports me to end of time and then nothing happens
im still being told to speak with eterra at the observers prison
lost gale
what were you doing to generate game crashing quantities of ward?
brave hearth
Is best thing to slam on lp1 red ring int?
dusty onyx
scaling stat is generally good to slam yes
pearl snow
any of my acolyte mates want to help me with how to finish act 10... i think its...
Ive heard it can be bugged but no resolution atm
dark inlet
So neat follow-up to this, I suggested it to Dammit and they implemented it today. 🥳
half kelp
is there a onehanded axe prophecy with cof
or am i blind
exalted
i need t7 on an axe so i can get my 2lp tithe online
little wigeon
yes can always use lens for it
versed fox
is there a onehanded axe prophecy with cof
yeep
half kelp
after 60 pulls its finally real
800 mana letsgoo
question: do i run this exang or 1lp null portent with t7 mana
little wigeon
valeroot if stacking mana (or woven flesh for crit avoid)
stuck owlBOT
half kelp
heres the build as it is now for reference
little wigeon
null portent is ok, decent stat stick with some DR if overcapping but not really needed imo
can also swap death seal for marrow shards and remove that primordial dagger for a T8 nec spell or the primordial relic to boost your mana idols
median pebble
doesnt null portent outperform woven flesh at high investment?
pearl snow
Yeah especially if you are avoid crit or reduction capped eslewhere
little wigeon
woven flesh is mainly for the crit avoid so you dont need to worry about it
so yea if you have that covered then yea if aiming for defense
median pebble
oh yeah woven is great early no argument there
little wigeon
i dont use woven, i use valeroot and am fine in 1k corr. so u dont need a heavily defensive chest
i opted for a T7 armor/red crits on boots instead of movement spd
half kelp
if the marrow interaction is bugged i dont want to run that tbh
mighty echo
hello, does anyone know if the node "Dead Weight" in Marrow Shards is additive or multiplicative? it says more damage but doesn't mention multiplicative like on other nodes
little wigeon
"deals more dmg" thats multiplicative
median pebble
if the marrow interaction is bugged i dont want to run that tbh
you dont need it for sure, though it will require either more skill or more gear for uber
wide condor
What’s better for leveling, necro minion or warlock ?
pearl snow
Prophecies lol
brazen wigeon
any1 can help me with abom build?
pearl snow
What’s better for leveling, necro minion or warlock ?
Both are good
little wigeon
whats the best way to farm em
pray lol
wide condor
Both are good
Oh ok, necro minion seemed a bit clunky with the abomination mechanic, it’s not ?
pearl snow
Oh ok, necro minion seemed a bit clunky with the abomination mechanic, it’s not ...
I don’t know if you run abom while leveling but both work really well. I’d just do whatever helps you transition easier to the build you want once you hit endgame
half kelp
Prophecies lol
you can get weaver glyphs from prophecies?
pearl snow
you can get weaver glyphs from prophecies?
You can get idol drops. I assume, as long as it doesn’t specify the type of idol than Weaver is valid.
old hull
Weaver idols yes there are prophs for those
Weaver runes yes sane thing
hard hearth
@autumn bough Hey again sorry for the disturb! 😅 Can i ask you, what about the abomination absorb order for the death in the family requirement? The minion cap is 20 right? Someone say that if you absorb more than 20 cause of the skeleton rautomatic respawn, reached the cap the first absorbed minions (so maybe also the golem, the wraith and the mage) woulb be expelled from the 20 cap, and someone says the opposite (reached the cap, no more minions eaten counts)...
Sorry for the long and bad wrote question! english is not my primary language
autumn bough
i summon all possible minions 9 skeles, 3 mages, 6 wraiths , golem absorbs all and no issues
hard hearth
the absorbing order do not count for the death in the family node?
since it say 20 is the max absorbable minions
autumn bough
20 is only for health/dmg bonus not for nodes on the tree
old hull
do mana costs round if you have %less mana cost
No
brazen wigeon
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BrKMJ7mo any tips? is this ready to fight ubby or gotta increase bulk?
stuck owlBOT
worthy arch
Wraithlord considered a higher level than normal wraiths? Trying to utilize the new trinket
dusty onyx
Are rogue skelly any good?
old hull
Are rogue skelly any good?
Yes, quite good
pearl snow
Wraithlord considered a higher level than normal wraiths? Trying to utilize the ...
The Trex? Your Wraithlord is gunna consume dat boy
versed fox
Has anyone else had issues with Aura of Decay turning itself off and on? Is that intentional, is there a way to stop it
the regen is really messing me up
eternal ember
does anyone here know if cinder song the legendary wand increseses the count of fireballs the pyromancers cast?
obtuse quest
Has anyone else had issues with Aura of Decay turning itself off and on? Is that...
It doesn't by default, unless you did something like gave it a mana cost and ran out of mana.
obtuse quest
does anyone here know if cinder song the legendary wand increseses the count of ...
No. It buffs your fireballs, not your minions' .
obtuse quest
Wraithlord considered a higher level than normal wraiths? Trying to utilize the ...
No? I don't even know what you're refering to.
eternal ember
dang appreciated, trying to get a build going as i just found the play style i wanted and was unsure of this interaction
obtuse quest
dang appreciated, trying to get a build going as i just found the play style i w...
Unless it says "minion", it never affect minions.
versed fox
I'll have to record it tomorrow and share. It's very bizarre. Every few seconds my Regen and resistances dip (there's the node that gives you +% resists in aura and +% health Regen when it deactivates)
So Im kinda stuck with the buffed Regen, constantly
obtuse quest
or shared right?
Yup.
dusty onyx
Is there an option not to cancel channeling abitlities without continuing to press the key?
worthy arch
@obtuse quest @pearl snow
pearl snow
Id assume so
worthy arch
Im assuming they are the same level since they are technically the same tree
pearl snow
Yeah so worst case you manipulate it
old hull
Or wraithlord might be 0 levels because it's not a wraith, idk
worthy arch
Or wraithlord might be 0 levels because it's not a wraith, idk
Oof. I wish there was a way to tell
Maybe I'll use it and see if the stacks show up like shades
obtuse quest
Either it only affects normal wraiths, or the alt “nearest minion” condition is applied
So you’re going to have fun manipulating that
worthy arch
Oof. Thats annoying.
obtuse quest
It’s the same thing anyone running multi minions setups would face using this. (Note that I said multi minion, not multi minion types)
If you run two golem with this for example then only the nearest golem will apply
worthy arch
Yeah so Google just told me that wraithlord doesn't have a level, wraiths do.
Trash af lol
obtuse quest
That thing is mostly built for companions yeah
tight hawk
Following the Max roll harvest flay build.
Just want to ask for anyone else following this, is it supposed to be this squishy? I can't take a hit without dying.
native bison
Following the Max roll harvest flay build.
Just want to ask for anyone else fol...
Use death seal instead of transplant
drowsy ocean
is death in the family abom node worth it? From what I read online, it means like fire/cold/blood/bone golem, rogue/warrior/archer skelly, etc, right?
lost gale
is death in the family abom node worth it? From what I read online, it means lik...
no just any minion from summon bone golem, wraith, skeleton mage, summon skeleton. as long as something from all four skills is consumed then the abom will get the bonus (and devour all minions from those skills too)
before 1.3 it was beneficial to make abomination from all kinds of differently named minions like you read online, now they're just grouped up under the skill that summons them
drowsy ocean
no just any minion from summon bone golem, wraith, skeleton mage, summon skeleto...
ohh so the node is just another extra node like Engorment?
lost gale
ohh so the node is just another extra node like Engorment?
ish, you have to commit all your minion skills to the abom for it to work which really leaves you with just abom & maybe zombies, while for engorgement you could also use wraiths or something
drowsy ocean
ish, you have to commit all your minion skills to the abom for it to work which ...
meaning i can't swap them out of hot bar?
lost gale
meaning i can't swap them out of hot bar?
oh no you can do that and I only recommend specialising summon skeletons but it just means you're kind of excluded from any abomination plus [skeletons/mages/wraiths/golems] build and have to just be solo abom more or less
half relic
what minion builds are yall running? heard about a fire minion build. not sure what is good or to try about to hit mono's
lost gale
what minion builds are yall running? heard about a fire minion build. not sure w...
when they fix abomination sacrificing itself I want to run abom, skellies, sacrifice bloodwraiths
shrewd valley
Is there any reason to use 2h for melee lich over dual wield now?
Currently playing a chaos bolt caster lich because I was too frail going melee before I get an exsanguinus.. But I love 2h weapons way too much, although when I'm looking around it seems like dual wield just gives more everything, even more damage taken yourself 👀
Also wondering if there's any way to make flay viable as main skill, mainly thinking of the mana cost, without the new legendary axe?
drowsy ocean
oh no you can do that and I only recommend specialising summon skeletons but it ...
yea for 3 more skellies, right? there's nothing else to put points in
lost gale
yea for 3 more skellies, right? there's nothing else to put points in
so you only get warriors and they revive. you want your abom to eat 20 skelly warriors for double strike and the node before it with more health & melee damage per skeleton warrior
drowsy ocean
so you only get warriors and they revive. you want your abom to eat 20 skelly wa...
isnt it impossible to get 20 skellies?
lost gale
you can keep channeling abomination indefinitely and they keep reviving
you start with 8 or 9 depending on your tree and 80% of them revive after 3s
you want your abom to eat one golem one wraith one mage 20 warriors really
unless you're specifically building for stomp
or eternal arrow
drowsy ocean
i plan on massive area scale melee basic attack
i saw video where area is scaled massively he hits the whole pack of mobs in front of him
and you mean 17 warriors, one golem, one wraith, and mage?
half relic
any other decent builds outside of abom?
obtuse quest
any other decent builds outside of abom?
Wraithlord still exists
obtuse quest
Also wondering if there's any way to make flay viable as main skill, mainly thin...
Flay itself without using the chaos bolt proc node shouldn't have major mana problems, but since Flay's att speed is slow as hell using a 2H makes it super clunky
coral current
Is it worth building for witchfire? Tempted to.
obtuse quest
Is it worth building for witchfire? Tempted to.
Do you want an aura that murders any trash by walking that requires you to proc it every 15 seconds? If yes, then yes.
muted vine
i am necro mancer but i use 2 wraiths 3 mages 1 golem , no abom as it keeps eating my minions even if it does not need it , i got a nemesis item what gives minion +146 regen , so with t-rex and crab ( replacing dodge) and firezombies
obtuse quest
i am necro mancer but i use 2 wraiths 3 mages 1 golem , no abom as it keep...
Abom eating your minions no matter what is literally it's whole thing.
muted vine
it should do it to heal up i just wanted a uber tank, but golem and t-rex do that just fine , fire aura and wraiths/ mages turned to cold so ,,cc and burning and t-rex ripping it apart
but i found lately alot of +40% spell damage if hp is low , idols .. and i got that acolyte armour so yes i can use it , but is the primeordeal version good enough to replace my t-rex ?
currently my minions do all my killing , wondering if a spell acolyte clears as fast . even debating if i should try a primelist swarmer . to see how that plays . if its basicly the same as an army but then what stings ,, hmm
suffering from althism isnt good when you got to many choises and items keep falling for other combinations
brazen wigeon
ubby has 50x hp of normal?
lost gale
and you mean 17 warriors, one golem, one wraith, and mage?
nope, only 20 minions count for the hp/damage of the abom but it can be made from more than 20 and afaik you can get the full 20 skelly warriors bonus along with the golem/wraith/mage bonus
lost gale
ubby has 50x hp of normal?
idk how much normal has but uber has 50m hp and each ward bar is 37.5m
obtuse quest
ubby has 50x hp of normal?
10x times.
Uber has 50mil, normal has 5mil
half kelp
hm
brazen wigeon
seriously?! thru 34% dmg move to abom?>
why does he even target me when abom is the one at his face?
such BS overtuned fight
and then they wonder why ppl play same builds over and over
dusty onyx
what corruption?
obtuse quest
why does he even target me when abom is the one at his face?
If you and the abom line up, I'm pretty sure the dash can hit both of you, since I think generally enemy dashes are fix distances.
obtuse quest
Uberroth has always been an ass, he's been unchecked all this time.
It's not something meant to be defeated by all builds.
brazen wigeon
I'm playing maxroll abom
and this random pixel hits me for 3K dmg thru max resists
he;s overuned and I'm out, MG can just buy his drops off bazaar and CoF can suck thumbs
obtuse quest
You... do build more defenses other than resistances right?
obtuse quest
That's... not that much?
brazen wigeon
and he one shots me
obtuse quest
5k ward is kinda mid numbers.
dusty onyx
I hope they fix wildfire embers
topaz knot
They aren't nerfing uber anytime soon. Especially with most builds killing him really quick.
It's really just a fight that you, as a player, have to be able to dodge the attacks that one shot you.
topaz knot
I kinda like having a boss that you can't just out gear and stand still while you kill them
I think having to do a few mechanics is fine
I would hardly call it "darksouls" for having to dodge a few attacks
brazen wigeon
maybe I will try flay lich have 1 at 85 but didn't get to finish it
got most items required but mana slam for woven flesh
topaz knot
Abom is easier than flay at killing uber
You're tankier and your minuon takes some aggro
brazen wigeon
my abom nec dies instantly
topaz knot
There might be an issue with your build then
brazen wigeon
stuck owlBOT
brazen wigeon
advise me then
brazen wigeon
most of it is random blue orbs or some stupid ground DoT
topaz knot
Ur health is very low
Should have atleast 3k to stabilize into more ward. I think you get about 7k ward at 4k health.
Should put hybrid health on ur belt and flat health on ur necklace
brazen wigeon
coudln't find hybrid hp for belt but I found T7 minion damage
brazen wigeon
tho vids I'v seen flay lich seem to kill ubby faster than abom
craggy flicker
yeah well geared flay destroys ubby but
abom if ur tanky enough is kinda just a dodge the worst stuff fest haha
topaz knot
Well geared flay will kill uber faster. But abom will kill uber with worse gear
Flay is also harder to pilot
Because to do damage you teleport to the boss. If you mistime it you're dead
craggy flicker
yeah thats how im dying rn
craggy flicker
that i can agree with
topaz knot
That is true. But you don't get time to rest during mapping either. You're constantly dying if ur not leeching health
brazen wigeon
I had to build abom from scratch but for maxroll flay lich I got most items in stash I just need to slam all T7s
craggy flicker
i think to get the damage for ubberoth easier then abomu need 2lps for body and helmet
topaz knot
Whichever qol you prefer, i'd do. 90% of ur time is mapping, not killing uber. If u wanna swap back to abom later u always can
brazen wigeon
I got 3 chars out of which 1 is abom that I mage in explicit way to kill ubby only to fail miserably and entire week wasted
topaz knot
Not wasted. Just put abom gear on the lootfilter and swap to lich for some gold. And farm up abom gear. Once you have hybrid health belt, better gloves, health amulet, prob a better helmet, you can go back to abom to kill uber
Or if you really like flay, you can just stick with flay
topaz knot
Void gloves would be more tanky for you
brazen wigeon
maxroll say these tho
topaz knot
Oh ur low life that makes sense
brazen wigeon
also I'm missing 11 lvls that also might be a deal
topaz knot
I think ur missing 1.5k hp tbh
brazen wigeon
thing is I'm basicaly "finished" with monos and blessings on abom...
topaz knot
I think u should swap back to an exlated helm with t7 % health, health on amulet, and hybrid health on belt, and itll get you enough hp
brazen wigeon
back? I'v never had exhalted helm on that xD
I got 2 LP somewhere and I have to drop hp helmet
topaz knot
Oh you are suppose to use an exalted until you get a really really good slam on the helmet
brazen wigeon
tho abom's crit is already pretty bad
topaz knot
That's why ur suppose to stick w an exalted
To have both crit, % health and minion cdr from the implicit
And not swap to the glacial helm until you have % health and crit on it, at the least
coral current
Do you want an aura that murders any trash by walking that requires you to proc ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIJcacYf6CY decent build to follow?
obtuse quest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIJcacYf6CY decent build to follow?
didn't take the best affix
My man is cringe.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/witchfire-warlock
RUn this variant
half kelp
so hypothetically if you go mana flay lich with marrow shards
do you go physical or necrotic
coral current
> didn't take the best affix
My man is cringe.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/bu...
TY - is this suitable for leveling?
obtuse quest
Your unique relic is only online at 70, so you don't have a auto spread aura until then, you'll basically be playing a generic fissure into chaos bolt ailment build.
sick violet
for harvest lich, which primordial one would work better?
i have 49% attack speed dagger ready for slam. would that outweight the 10% lost in resist pen?
also, I've been using the crit multi traitors tongue, and had a slam, which failed to get shred and got chill instead. is 60 flat dmg > 100% crit mult?
tight hawk
Do you recommend the Max roll build for harvest flay or is there one on another site that's recommended?
orchid heron
when would you want to swap from Flay Harvest to Flay Mana variant? I'm on Flay Harvest, comfortable in the mid 500 corruption despite needing some improvements still
is it more for uber aberroth?
tight hawk
Maxroll guide says when you have the required uniques and at least 800 mana
short arch
is this item worth running late game:
it feels like it's doing nothing for me and then I noticed that the level requirement was 9...
even the minion it summons seems like it's doing like no damage
so Im not sure if it's worth running just for the +1 to minion skills
or do you guys have any reccomendations for an off hand for an abomination build? Im trying not to look at build guides but I will take reccomendations
versed fox
or do you guys have any reccomendations for an off hand for an abomination build...
Are you using your primordial spot already?
queen orchid
Has anyone noticed a delay in casting Chaos Bolts in Lich form? It feels like my characters idles for a bit in-between casts but not in normal form
short arch
Are you using your primordial spot already?
yes I am for the dino spawner
also how do I get to 20 skeleton cap? Im sitting at 9 right now and can't seem to get anymore unless Im missing certain items
obtuse quest
also how do I get to 20 skeleton cap? Im sitting at 9 right now and can't seem t...
13 is the normal cap. Just get reviving skeletons.
brave hearth
For my abom build I'm running the high endurance high block chance, so I use the mountain shield and stack endurance
My block chance is 100 so I can stand in aberroth slam and not even die lol
brave hearth
This isn't a guide or plan just where I'm at now, and the helmet I must have accidentally put on don't use that lol, I use tundra with 13 Int:
obtuse quest
You linked an empty planner
stuck owlBOT
brave hearth
Also nihilis is ok but sometimes I use the evolution amulet for more damage
obtuse quest
wondering if this is usable over twisted heart
Are you Lich? Reaper form disables health regen by setting it to 0.
obtuse quest
AH
pearl snow
Has anyone noticed a delay in casting Chaos Bolts in Lich form? It feels like my...
There is a weird middle ground between your Cb casting animation and the reaper casting animation. I’ve noticed it but its purely visual
obtuse quest
i would get 170 more from the vessel
Wait, are you not using the primodial that boosts non-unique idols?
half kelp
no not yet
because the idols are only thing im missing
i have one double mana glyph
stuck owlBOT
brave hearth
Are you cof? The idols should be priority 1 you'll be surprised
half kelp
this where im at atm
half kelp
Are you cof? The idols should be priority 1 you'll be surprised
yeah im not rank 10 cof yet, still half a level to go before i start the grind on them
currently at 900c
brave hearth
You cruising echos? At 98 you should be close to maxing it out
brave hearth
Hmm that's strange do you just have a bunch saved up
half kelp
no they just havent dropped
brave hearth
No I mean favor
brave hearth
Lol spend it, you have to spend to level up cof
half kelp
nah, i will wait for level 10
brave hearth
Ok but you can only level up by spending it
brave hearth
Yes, that's how you get favor but you rank it up by spending it
short arch
is there a certain timeline I should be doing to try to get shield drop rate blessing or are they all just random?
brave hearth
is there a certain timeline I should be doing to try to get shield drop rate ble...
Yes it's one of them
Lance I believe
obtuse quest
Yes, that's how you get favor but you rank it up by spending it
You get ranks by earning and spending favor.
He can save up, just makes it slower to level.
little wigeon
wondering if this is usable over twisted heart
Stormcarved a bit better
brave hearth
He *can* save up, just makes it slower to level.
Oh got it thanks sorry for bad info
little wigeon
Comes with res too which is a nice bonus
short arch
Lance I believe
thank you will do!
topaz marlin
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BrKmLM6o
any advise or anything to improve from my current? Right now looking to try to push for some higher LPs for uniques n that's about it, so far hitting 250 corr rather comfortably
stuck owlBOT
brave hearth
Why not abom?
lost gale
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BrKmLM6o
any advise or anything to improv...
5 points in cursed blood is a better way to get marked for death than bone curse imo
topaz marlin
Why not abom?
are u asking me? simply because I don't find having one single minion fun! I like being a sheperd with a zoo of minions
brave hearth
In general int before damage if you want to use wraiths then especially because your staff drains minion health at the same rate regardless their total health
lost gale
are you casting zombies or relying on triggers to summon them?
topaz marlin
mostly relying on triggers, I cast when rare/boss
lost gale
don't take the big zombie node then
brave hearth
And T-Rex will far outweigh damage for you, over double vs the armor
lost gale
you always pay more mana for them but only get a big one 10% of the time
topaz marlin
In general int before damage if you want to use wraiths then especially because ...
my main dmg is DoT tho, "Forbidden Teachings" gets me higher DoTs with Vit right
brave hearth
Its unfortunate, I like the armor but it reduces kill speed a lot.
topaz marlin
you always pay more mana for them but only get a big one 10% of the time
damn, I knew that was a thing haha should I just go for more dmg nodes instead then
half kelp
what mana numbers do people have that have done uberroth
topaz marlin
And T-Rex will far outweigh damage for you, over double vs the armor
can't run T-rex with Wraithlord sadly
lost gale
my main dmg is DoT tho, "Forbidden Teachings" gets me higher DoTs with Vit right
how is DOT your main damage?
brave hearth
Right he eats it...
topaz marlin
damned from Dread Shade? and Ignite from flame wraiths?
brave hearth
Yeah that's my biggest problem with wraithlord
lost gale
damned from Dread Shade? and Ignite from flame wraiths?
flame wraiths don't ignite by default, they just do fire damage
damned is very weak
little wigeon
what mana numbers do people have that have done uberroth
Somewhere around 1800 base before axe procs. I wasn't immediately phasing uber but pretty close. I also used julra stardials with spell dmg to help phase
half kelp
cheers
topaz marlin
should I switch to crit instead? :/
half kelp
im getting close >:3
topaz marlin
5 points in cursed blood is a better way to get marked for death than bone curse...
wat should I use in place of bone curse then hahah
little wigeon
I think with over 2k base should be able to phase faster. But I've missed double mana slams in helm and chest alot. It's pain lol also less than half my idols are double mana. Also pain
craggy flax
should I switch to crit instead? :/
if you are going dot
would move the 8pts from whisp weaver the frost bite stuff from Necro to Warlock for Ignite/Damned chance it shared with minions
topaz marlin
if you are going dot
would move the 8pts from whisp weaver the frost bite stuff ...
ahhhh ure right, I'll do that, I keep forgetting I can invest in other masteries LOL
craggy flax
and I would trade Bone Curse for either Chaos Bolt or Rip Blood
and Spec into the stuff that buffs your minions cast speed/damage
topaz marlin
I just thought of picking up some chill for bit of CC, since Bone Curse helps to slow too
since slow = reduced dmg right
topaz marlin
so slow + chill = reduced dmg output from mobs? lul
half kelp
i need to get something better for this slot pronto
i have this but i really need a solid double t7
and i think theres better options still
topaz marlin
also iirc I was told Armour shred is no-no for DoT?
obtuse quest
so slow + chill = reduced dmg output from mobs? lul
Chill is enough to do that, add fragility if you need that as well
obtuse quest
also iirc I was told Armour shred is no-no for DoT?
Armour doesn't protect from DoTs, so DoTs don't get a damage boost from armour shred.
topaz marlin
gotcha
half kelp
whats the skills to pick if u go marrow shard
just the crit multi and dmg lines
im guessing
lost gale
wat should I use in place of bone curse then hahah
infernal shade maybe or chaos bolts or aura of decay if you're serious about making it a DOT minion build
craggy flax
wat should I use in place of bone curse then hahah
could do something like this
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qqr2bYPB
stuck owlBOT
brave hearth
Those boots lol sick
topaz marlin
I struggle to even get 2 T6 hahah
craggy flax
haha ya not realistic, but gives you an idea of what to aim for
brave hearth
Maybe will play with this build sometime I have t2-3 of all of these in droves
craggy flax
obviously not Abom level
but it would be fun to mess around with
brave hearth
Yeah once I kill uberroth with my abom going to play around with other builds more just for fun
I've specced the wraithlord build a few days ago but I was missing some pieces here that make more sense
lost gale
I struggle to even get 2 T6 hahah
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oY36WmmQ
I haven't changed the gear at all, but I did the skills & passives. It's not very focused but it should give your flame wraiths pretty good DOT output
stuck owlBOT
topaz marlin
woaw appreciate it!! thanks
topaz knot
Yes, that's how you get favor but you rank it up by spending it
Nah, you also rank up by killing enemies
lost gale
chaos bolts give a lot of ailment chance and they blow up zombies
wraithlord itself will eat skeletons to spawn more zombies, give you mana & ward
you can spend the mana keeping the chaos bolts buff going on your swarm of wraiths
brave hearth
Nah, you also rank up by killing enemies
Yeah someone mentioned it earlier
half kelp
Somewhere around 1800 base before axe procs. I wasn't immediately phasing uber b...
do you mind sharing your build?
mainly interested in the defensive layers
im running 800c now, i wont die if i just keep hitting things lmao, but i feel like im really low on defenses
topaz marlin
wraithlord itself will eat skeletons to spawn more zombies, give you mana & ward
woah the summon skeleton catching me off-guard, am I actively spawning skeles?
lost gale
woah the summon skeleton catching me off-guard, am I actively spawning skeles?
you can, I only took 40% respawn and it's probably the skill to change tbh
probably not worth it actually
aura of decay better
lost gale
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A13GZgKB something like this maybe
stuck owlBOT
lost gale
although you'll have to work out the itemisation
topaz marlin
I'll get there.. eventually
so my wraiths will do poison, damned, ignite?
oh no it's bleed instead of poison
versed fox
Has anyone used Last Steps of the Living for lowlife?
It seems pretty nice, but I'm not sure how big of a deal the chill is
6% attack speed lost isn't so bad?
Ah it's 18% frick
half kelp
kinda crazy that this doesnt even come close to dying to abe
lost gale
so my wraiths will do poison, damned, ignite?
frostbite, bleed, ignite, poison it should be
idk maybe that build will suck but you said you wanted DOT flame wraiths so
topaz marlin
hahah well idm giving it a go
topaz marlin
nop never will LOL
lost gale
they attack at like half the rate of flame wraiths
topaz marlin
putrid wraiths are terrible
if I take the Putrid Wraith node but have 100% Flame Wraith in idols wouldn't it become a 10% more damage node
lost gale
if I take the Putrid Wraith node but have 100% Flame Wraith in idols wouldn't it...
I think the chance gets rescaled to 100% so if you had 100% chance for flame wraiths and 25% chance for putrid wraiths it would become 80/20
little wigeon
do you mind sharing your build?
I'm not on right now but last I was doing was uber. I swap the julra rings to red rings and the immolators belt to the Brewster belt
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Toomuchluck/character/TooMuchLich
topaz marlin
I think the chance gets rescaled to 100% so if you had 100% chance for flame wra...
oh sad so it's not worth it gotcha
little wigeon
im running 800c now, i wont die if i just keep hitting things lmao, but i feel l...
I would recommend getting 60% endurance with either the blessing or brew belt or idols
lost gale
oh sad so it's not worth it gotcha
yeah
topaz marlin
another question : why not Lone Watcher from Dread Shade?
lost gale
another question : why not Lone Watcher from Dread Shade?
you can, but the more DOT is good and so is the poison conversion and resummoning your WL isn't much of an issue
so once the poison kills it just resummon it, reapply shade and move on
and you'll easily have enough minions to get full value from the scaled AOE with aberrant call wraiths
topaz marlin
kek I know I'm being a PITA rn but playing controller, trying to reduce buttons pressed AHAH
lost gale
and this wya you can just cast dread shade on wraiths too
the poison takes a while to kill them
topaz marlin
but yeah I get the logic, I'll do that
lost gale
you're not restricted to one shade
topaz marlin
the staff kills them pree fast actually
lost gale
well you didn't have the leech in the necro passive tree before
if they leech off all damage
they should survive a while I think
lost gale
lmk how it goes
on controller casting chaos bolt on your minions will probably be terrible actually
topaz marlin
yeps
lost gale
idk, maybe rip blood with the minion targeting would work better for you
the zombie detonations are very strong though
topaz marlin
no matter, I'll try out a few monos see how it goes
tryna get a better Evolution End too
lost gale
zombies/wraiths is an unusual combo
topaz marlin
well I found that it worked pree well for me, when wraiths die, zombos appear, and even if they get killed by WL they explode
hasty mango
Is tyrants skull abomination strong or did they nerf it ?
topaz marlin
also I didn't want to go the usual big damage crit so I tried DoT
lost gale
Is tyrants skull abomination strong or did they nerf it ?
it's strong
minor scaffold
it might be a bad build, but for fun i'll try a flay + harvest + stygian coal beam lich. maybe chaos bolts as well to be procced through flay and procc more harvests, with the necrotic melee + necrotic spell affix
lost gale
it might be a bad build, but for fun i'll try a flay + harvest + stygian coal be...
idk about a bad build but certainly a build that spends a huge amount of mana
you'd need to work out how to deal with that
blazing mural
Mana on harvest use affix may come in handy
lost gale
Mana on harvest use affix may come in handy
you have to actually use harvest for that, not just trigger it
blazing mural
Aw what
lost gale
yep
blazing mural
Sadge
lost gale
indeed
brisk elk
@charred ridge just saw the vid
Good stuff
I ended up switching to COF because trade is so dead
🙁
So I'm way behind on gearing
I should've expected it with poe2 and all
mental quest
Some recommended guide for acolyte class for begginers?
charred ridge
I ended up switching to COF because trade is so dead
lol im the opposite i kinda wish i was on trade
the grass is always greener on the other side
charred ridge
what items did you find you werent able to purchase?
brisk elk
Not enough people
T7 gear
Champion affix stuff
Lps
Everything tbu
And the idols are the worst
charred ridge
i think you've always had to do exalted items yourself tho
at least 77
but ye idols are tough and some uniques
but uniques were normally bad due to gold cap in 1.2
i figured it'd be better now
brisk elk
i think you've always had to do exalted items yourself tho
Yeah but it's way worse to do it yourself if you're not COF
brisk elk
Well specifically I wanted some champion primordials
Which you get from that one woven
So it's all self drop exalts
So cof really does matter
charred ridge
ya i think ppl just dont put these things in their filter
brisk elk
I wanted to build electrify smite without the idols using a primordial storm champion affix
T7 champion affixes don't exist man I'm convinced
So I gotta go with t8
charred ridge
i think it's just not in ppl's filters tbh
brisk elk
But yeah I'm gonna keep one character as MG
Its weird, if you leave a guild you lose all your rep across all chars, but you can keep chars as MG or COF and get rep for both
charred ridge
ya
brisk elk
Idk why it works that way
charred ridge
to prevent faction swapping on a single char
brisk elk
But if I keep one MG char I can use the gold
From the cof chars
So it's fine ig
I can also farm primordial mats on a COF char and then buy the items to sell on a MG char
so thats nice
charred ridge
there's a lot of stuff you can do to benefit from both factions lol
without gold cap inflation, lightness arbor is not one of them, but that's for the best
mighty echo
can all uniques have LP? or some uniques like Orchirian Petals only become legendary when added to Nemesis?
lost gale
there's a lot of stuff you can do to benefit from both factions lol
buying bricked MG legendaries to re-roll your COF farmed lp2/3 uniques is just sensible
topaz marlin
now I just need LP3 to slam
charred ridge
buying bricked MG legendaries to re-roll your COF farmed lp2/3 uniques is just s...
ya u cant reroll tagged CoF items anymore but u can still reroll untagged items
lost gale
ya u cant reroll tagged CoF items anymore but u can still reroll untagged items
oh they fixed that?
charred ridge
yeah
lost gale
shame
charred ridge
but i've been doing it with my untagged items
it's still useful u just have to be mindful of tags
lost gale
good of them to make sure that was fixed rather than making sure corrupted form works 
time well spent
charred ridge
corrupted form is like
one of the least important bugs too
rofl
well
nvm im biased
AoD enjoyers be crying fr
lost gale
what's up with AoD? I hadn't heard about any AoD particular bugs
charred ridge
i just know some dude wsa trying to make AoD do dmg
and all the good idols were like "xxxxx at low health"
so none of his shit worked
lmao
lost gale
🙁
yeah the thing with corrupted form is that it's something they advertised the lich rework with, core part of the 1.3 promotional materials and it should be dead easy to test whether it does the thing it says it does
topaz marlin
in today's new bug to fix goes to....
lost gale
if corrupted form not actually making you count as low-life is slipping through it suggests a staggering level of carelessness wrt ensuring things actually do the thing they say they do
lost gale
in today's new bug to fix goes to....
kinda surprised they're not trying to eat eachother
charred ridge
dont quote me on that but i dont think they do any online testing? and some stuff randomly breaks on online vs offline
but either way im sure corrupted form is also bugged offline anyway xdd
pearl snow
its criminal how much damage I lost due to the low life setup not working. I ended up with the ailment overload for poison instead lmao
topaz marlin
dont quote me on that but i dont think they do any online testing? and some stuf...
the double WL bug I have currently is in offline, legacy
charred ridge
whats WL
lost gale
the double WL bug I have currently is in offline, legacy
any idea how you did it?
topaz marlin
only on the first summon upon login or death
lost gale
I was messing around with using ghostmaker with wraithlord helmet, never saw 2 WL from the triggered casts of summon wraith
lost gale
only on the first summon upon login or death
well if it's reliable, double WL seems pretty strong
topaz marlin
yeah kinda doubles the speed of hitting max wraiths
lost gale
is the DOT setup working alright?
topaz marlin
so far so good, think I need to tweak my gears
not sure if the chaos bolts are actually buffing my minions tho, in all the visual chaos I can't tell lmao
lost gale
if they're buffed they have a kind of spiky glow around their feet for skellies
what I don't know is how the buff & explosion works with zombies, whether they get buffed before they explode or just explode without ever getting the ailment chance
topaz marlin
but if anything I'm applying helluva lots of DoTs
reaching like 200+ stacks of bleed n ignite
lost gale
200 isn't much, I might have sold you a bad bill of goods there 🙁
topaz marlin
:c it went up from 150 to nearly 250 so it helped
wispy eagle
is it 2 or 4?
little wigeon
With 2 points, it's 4
short arch
should I be using this item with abomination necromancer?
I mean the +2 to strength minion skills does nothing for me sadly
wispy eagle
400 int it is 🫡
scarlet flicker
what's teh most efficient way to farm mana idols for flay lich? CoF player
charred ridge
what's teh most efficient way to farm mana idols for flay lich? CoF player
prophecies
hasty monolith
prophecies
why do you use valeroot armor? is ir for the fact that it has mana on it or am i missing something
charred ridge
yes mana
hasty monolith
any tips for first time uber abby?
charred ridge
it's funny most of the time people ask me questions, the answer is in the question
charred ridge
any tips for first time uber abby?
not really no
if you can point at something that is troubling you i can give advice
but other than that idk just kill it lol
charred ridge
i mean
you can send your planner if you want me to look at it
you say tanky build but the "tanky build" has immortal vise
so unless you're MG i know for a fact that you're not playing the "tanky build"
hasty monolith
ofc i am missing the gloves since no uber kill
hasty monolith
you can send your planner if you want me to look at it
give me 1 sec, need to swap gear to tanky build since im just farming normal abby atm
hasty monolith
you can send your planner if you want me to look at it
stuck owlBOT
hasty monolith
i havent swaped passives and skills atm but im using the same as you did in the video
charred ridge
you need t7 necro flat not aspd
hasty monolith
you need t7 necro flat not aspd
thats fixable
charred ridge
your mana is extremely low
do you use mshards or death seal when you fight uber
cus like
hasty monolith
dealseal
charred ridge
if you dont mind exploiting bugs you should definitely be using mshards
hasty monolith
deathseal
charred ridge
like you have to understand when i do these videos they're not guides lol
you shouldnt just copy everything that im doing without understanding why im doing them
hasty monolith
ofc ofc, but i just had to ask when i saw you here haha
charred ridge
i just woke up and thought "what if i just facetanked everything on aberroth"
but these passives
they're bad
don't take them
twilit flume
i just woke up and thought "what if i just facetanked everything on aberroth"
you can facetank everything with ghostflame
charred ridge
they allow me to tank timeshattering slam aka the big slam at the beginning
why would you want to do that
dodge it and take damage passives
hasty monolith
why would you want to do that
truuue
charred ridge
in fact why kill uber in 3 minutes when u can do it in 1 minute or less
twilit flume
why would you want to do that
cause you just hold 1 button for long enough and he dies
charred ridge
cause you just hold 1 button for long enough and he dies
i was not replying to you
twilit flume
nice
hasty monolith
i did mange to get 100 mana by swaping to less defensive Nihilis
charred ridge
i mean you have two options you either go zhp and get enough dmg to kill it in <1 minute, that requires like, a tiny bit of mechanical skills but honestly it's just really easy if you have the dmg idk
or you can try to build tankiness and play a longer fight but idk how long that would actually take
or if it even requires less gear
charred ridge
i did mange to get 100 mana by swaping to less defensive Nihilis
the best way to get mana is do idol prophecies
until every single one of your idols is double mana
and slam mana% on helmet and body armor instead of flat mana
if you want to go tankiness route slam hp% on body armor
hasty monolith
and slam mana% on helmet and body armor instead of flat mana
Oh so mana% is prio over flat?
charred ridge
yes
hasty monolith
aaah thanks!
thanks for taking your time to reply to my somewhat stupid questions haha
charred ridge
i mean there's footage of my first few kills on youtube
you can see the gear i had then
it was like idk
1950 mana before axe buffs
on a zhp version anyway
you can probably still facetank a lot on budget if you prefer that i just dont know how long it'll take you to kill
you're also not endurance capped
so you'll need endurance idols
it's a suffix on 1x1
hasty monolith
Ill get started on that and getting more mana
charred ridge
54% to 60% endurance is like 15% more hp
hasty monolith
I could swap the flat armor to endurence, but its prolly better to get it on idols
hasty monolith
atm i have thoose 2 in the weaver idols in the filter
charred ridge
how much favor do you have?
sick violet
how much favour on average for red ring?
hasty monolith
how much favour on average for red ring?
i used 500k but i might be somewhat unlucky
sick violet
also, does anyone have any input on this, I asked earlier, but no answers
#💀┃acolyte message
sick violet
i used 500k but i might be somewhat unlucky
damn, i thought my 200k was unlucky, gotta get back at it
hasty monolith
also, does anyone have any input on this, I asked earlier, but no answers
https...
I assume the 3 lp traitor's and the 1lp jaw
sick violet
I assume the 3 lp traitor's and the 1lp jaw
mhm, so 10% pen is not that big of a deal?
hasty monolith
mhm, so 10% pen is not that big of a deal?
ye and im not sure how much value +1 to dex skills will be over the 10% pen
steady plank
wish there was a way to auto cast dreadshades
molten bramble
how much favor do you have?
I think you can make a slight optimization to damage by picking up phys shred in blessings, and swapping cb and flay to phys and pick up the 10% global phys pen node in reaper form. I know we do not have much physical flat but you can scale the base and adaptive dmg with phys more and phys gets more dmg with armor shred aswell.
Maximizes the phys from marrow shards aswell.
charred ridge
the issue is that it's the necrotic side of CB being converted to phys
molten bramble
We still get debuff from harvest
charred ridge
so for a complete zhp setup then?
essentially you want a small damage boost from armor shred
molten bramble
I am currently using it in my normal set up but I am giving up armor for it.
charred ridge
and reaper form pen
molten bramble
But my set up I have armor/crit reduc rolls on gear so armor is in a good spot.
charred ridge
i think that's good tech to push dps on zhp, doesnt sound very much worth it for normal play (the blessing swap part)
also i feel silly about the phys pen in reaper form cause i completely forgot about that node i couldve used that to one shot uber more easily
molten bramble
From my anecdotal experience the dmg gains feels like 10% but not sure. I am sure most of it is coming from scaling bugged phys marrow shards.
charred ridge
yeah most likely
for normal play i dont feel like damage is a concern at all since everything dies in one tap and bosses also last a whole 2 seconds
but if you give up defense and you're still not dying it's not like that matters either
where do you get damned from if you convert CB to bleed?
molten bramble
Harvest and warlock passive
charred ridge
ah ok
im too lazy to math the CB dmg increase
but yeah it'd be a small dmg increase probably even without the blessing
molten bramble
Its base 10 with like another 10 to 15 of adaptive
Half 13 lich passive Half 26 traitors tongue so 19ish
molten bramble
Lol me too
molten bramble
Yeah I expected as much. Most of the dmg was from juicing marrow shards. But extra dmg on cb not terrible.
Are you calcing thr extra like 25% more from armor shred?
charred ridge
yeah
molten bramble
If only we could have physical hybrid roll on dagger/axe.
charred ridge
lol
i'd rather just them fix marrow shards
then we don't need it
the highest dps output once (if) they bugfix is to slam melee cold and go cold AoD for pen
molten bramble
Yeah sounds strong
charred ridge
stuck owlBOT
charred ridge
this is the highest dps setup that i found
89.4mil dps vs 86mil dps for a classic reliquary nest setup
but it relies on having a well rolled SW, and 2lp on either amulet or relic for the crit chance affix
so not exactly super realistic
it gets "crit immune" (if you high roll avoidance on the amulet) so there's that 🤷♀️
native bison
There's no sustain in this build for reaper form. Wouldn't you just drop out of reaper after a few seconds?
obtuse quest
There's no sustain in this build for reaper form. Wouldn't you just drop out of ...
Technically there's Chaos Bolt's health on cursed hit.
charred ridge
There's no sustain in this build for reaper form. Wouldn't you just drop out of ...
it's just an uber farmer
but no you wouldn't drop out of reaper form
it looks like this but with 5x more dmg
charred ridge
*Technically* there's Chaos Bolt's health on cursed hit.
so yeah it's technically but it's actually quite real lol
brave hearth
Any way I can use this for my necro lol...
topaz marlin
screenshot button is right there
brave hearth
Took a picture to text to a friend earlier and am not at a computer now
somber notch
Fantastic
viscid geyser
Is there a issue with lich corrupted form node not giving the low life tag or has that been fixed?
pearl snow
hasnt been fixed afaik
viscid geyser
Dang, this season feels extra buggy 🙁 everything I touch has a issue lol
scarlet flicker
what? so all this time my lich been lacking death's door increased damage?
scarlet flicker
?!! excellent
viscid geyser
what? so all this time my lich been lacking death's door increased damage?
Well atleast when it's fixed we will slap harder?
scarlet flicker
yeah..honestly...flay mana lich isn't what it was cracked to be...I almost have the gear and it is underwhelming so far...the max roll dagger in endgame gear is also not easy to get
charred ridge
send your planner
viscid geyser
I like harvest because I like to vroom
scarlet flicker
charred ridge
what's underwhelming about that gear lol
scarlet flicker
underwhelming in echoes/damage
as I said I almost have the gear...dagger doesn't have all the right mods and crit is lower than what the palnner says
scarlet flicker
The tankiness/sustain...I regularly die at 500C
charred ridge
oh you're not crit capped
scarlet flicker
I know...but that's what I have till now...I need better axe and gloves...assuming we only care for spell crit
charred ridge
did you hit CoF rank 12?
scarlet flicker
I do
charred ridge
just grind more favor
and fill out your mana idols
also try to get a t7 mana% slam on some kind of chest
valeroot for damage or pale ox/core of the mountain for tankiness
scarlet flicker
I only have 1lp core...so I can again only get T7 mana in there...
charred ridge
2lp valeroot is extremely easy to get
i mean idk what you leaguestarted with or why this feels disappointing to you
scarlet flicker
I started with abomination necro and played frogs for a bit...frogs are good
charred ridge
i league started with flay (different gear from maxroll but essentially the same build) and uber was down on day 3 it felt smooth as soon as i swapped to it
scarlet flicker
not uber worthy good but good clear and easy play
right now on frogs I can do 900C easy
high lava
Frogs the AI is tuned in and everything is very fast
charred ridge
i dont think the maxroll planner is the best way to play flay tbh
little wigeon
How do you not just flay to each pack and explode everything. I've been running 1k just fine and it's fast af
scarlet flicker
packs are fine..champions/cemetry...you have to get in melee range and champions don't explode in one hit...not right now in my gear
and then you die
little wigeon
Death seal also exists. Well I guess your mana is on the low end
scarlet flicker
I do use deathseal on champions...
high lava
Ya I think if you don't have everything perfectly lined out and all the gear farmed it just feels bleh
little wigeon
I tried maxroll version for a bit and I think the traitors/prim relic version is better
viscid geyser
packs are fine..champions/cemetry...you have to get in melee range and champions...
Well if lich is bugged and they fix it our dmg should sky rocket
charred ridge
the maxroll gear is significantly squishier
little wigeon
Much easier to crit cap
charred ridge
the primordial relic is worth a metrick fckton of ehp
it's also worse dmg idk
the rune dagger is only good if you're crit capped, but to get crit capped (without sacrificing important affixes) you need a 2lp shattered worlds with 5% crit so
not exactly budget
i'd just get a traitor's tongue and the primordial relic (reliquary nest)
scarlet flicker
ok so I need to switch to the traitor's tongue version? I do have a 2lp traitor's
charred ridge
slap on a brewmaster's belt (1lp health% is fine)
little wigeon
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/amol447/character/chudail
Your armor is pretty low. I run around in the 60s and cap endurance at 60. Can use brew belt
scarlet flicker
do you have a planner @charred ridge ?
stuck owlBOT
scarlet flicker
I know my armor is low endurance is not capped and crit is also not capped...it is just that what I have should be enought for 500C and it's not...so I gotta switch
little wigeon
Well prim relic also gives endurance another bonus for going that route lol
With brew belt you can swap your blessings to armor
charred ridge
ye you endurance cap from relic + brew belt (and a couple 1x1 idols, there's an endurance suffix)
and idk it's just impossible to die
slam hp% on belt & body armor
and your endurance threshold is basically equivalent to 8k hp
little wigeon
I run around with 1200 hp corrupted form lol but all my hp has endurance DR
charred ridge
well more like 5k hp without immortal vise
charred ridge
do you have a planner <@177836786435883008> ?
check this showcase & planner in description to get an idea of the gear i had
3 days into the league
and if you look at more recent videos there are more tanky setups
little wigeon
well more like 5k hp without immortal vise
Yea 40% delayed all the time is pretty nice with the passive
charred ridge
just mix and match a bit of whatever you need from each planner
scarlet flicker
you manually cast chaos bolts?
scarlet flicker
k
charred ridge
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oPn9OlWQ
but generally the best thing is to just take this planner
and if you need more boss damage at the cost of defense swap rings to stardials
and most importantly body armor to anything (preferably valeroot) with mana% and +mana
the mana% affixes from rogue/sentinel are really big dmg they're quite important to slam, they get priority over flat mana as well
scarlet flicker
do I need to level a sentinel/rogue just to farm those armors?
charred ridge
no
just grab any sentinel/rogue gear off the ground and craft them
it just needs to be on your filter
scarlet flicker
ah...so it will allow me to craft it on acolyte helms/chest
because I tried strength on acolyte helm and it wouldn't allow me
scarlet flicker
yeah...but that much sentinel/rogue armor with T7 isn't gonna drop for my acolyte is it?
charred ridge
might take a while to get exactly t7 mana% although it's not incredibly rare
but what you can do is filter for any t7 affix on rogue/sentinel gear, and use havocs
scarlet flicker
hmm
charred ridge
either one of those is fine
scarlet flicker
I think I have 151mana/15%increased mana sentinel armor
charred ridge
also if you imprint rogue/sent gear it will drop rogue/sent gear
scarlet flicker
so I can imprint that and hope better rolls
charred ridge
craft a t7 mana% t5 flat mana and slam it on 2lp valeroot
should be easy enough to get
scarlet flicker
k
topaz marlin
wat happens with "Increased Minion Damage" on Julra's Obessesion lmao
pearl snow
your minions minions have increased damage
obtuse quest
wat happens with "Increased Minion Damage" on Julra's Obessesion lmao
Your minions have “increased minion damage”, so it would buff your minion’s minions, if any. (That doesn’t exist. Tldr: no double dipping)
old hull
Well, not outside primalist anyway, since a few of their minions have minions for some reason
topaz marlin
hahah alright
carmine harbor
hey all can anyone help me where to go from here im trying to kill uber abb https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/disposition/character/TheReaper i know i need to farm a new nihilis so i can slam mana but other insight would be nice.
half relic
leveled as minions and swapped to abom at 50 and its ass. Probably need to be higher level before i start that. But dont think ill like abom
pearl snow
leveled as minions and swapped to abom at 50 and its ass. Probably need to be hi...
full swapping to a build at 50 can make it not perform well. if you dont like the idea of 1 big minion then yeah not for you
charred ridge
hey all can anyone help me where to go from here im trying to kill uber abb http...
looks solid
have you tried uber at all yet?
your endurance is way overcapped swap the blessing for armor
and use two 1x1 idols with +2% endurance to cap it
carmine harbor
yeah tried a few times. getting to first harby, but i dont think im doing enough dmg. because too much ground stuff starts over lapping and i cant leech through it.
i see people with similar gear bringing him down to 65%ish after first expanding wave but im barely getting to the shield at that time.
charred ridge
your passives are bad change them to that
1 point in accursed feast instead of 5 points in ageless ascetic is fine tbh for uber
i don't like the reduced leech duration for maps
you can do this for uber if you prefer it's fine too
carmine harbor
ill change them now and give it a go
charred ridge
or take both leech nodes if you plan to stand in puddles (not exactly recommended but hey)
charred ridge
i see people with similar gear bringing him down to 65%ish after first expanding...
you say similar gear but how much mana do they have?
probably 1800-2000
carmine harbor
haha i try not to but im not perfect at the fight 🙂
charred ridge
your mana is on the low end and you're using a more defensive gear setup
so your dmg will suck
carmine harbor
would it be worth changing the flat mana on helm to %?
charred ridge
gotta slam that nihilis, preferably with 12% mana (dont need +2 all skills), and more idol prophecies
charred ridge
would it be worth changing the flat mana on helm to %?
yes
get a frailty suffix on your ignite idol that'll help with tankiness
carmine harbor
ok so to summarise for now:
1.change passive tree
2. get a new nihilis slam with flat mana
3. change to armour blessing and get 2 endurance suffix idols.
4. get a new seed and slam % mana.
5. idol prophecies 🙂
charred ridge
good thing i typed idol prophecies in bold
you're missing like 150 mana just from idols
and im not talking like perfectly rolled idols
just average idols
carmine harbor
haha my bad 🙂 i finally got my red rings so i can start the prophecies now
charred ridge
i did my idols before red rings but that's fine too
carmine harbor
thats prob where i went wrong honestly
stuck owlBOT
charred ridge
i killed uber with that gear
carmine harbor
yeah nice i got about 400k saved up from today now. took me millions to get these red rings lol
charred ridge
i had a flat mana slam on helmet so dont stress the mana%
it's your last prio
my idols were not complete but almost complete
i guess do this instead of the flat dmg if you're going for tankiness more than dmg
oh ye you also have no armor shred that's extremely important
get rid of those gloves
reslam your traitor's tongue even at 1lp (since yours is bricked anyway it's essentially a 1lp)
get it with 13% crit
you don't need those gloves, get exalted gloves with t7 mana and armor shred
any tier of armor shred will do even t1
you can use forging potential instead to get melee aspd on the prefix or hybrid health on the suffix
carmine harbor
sorry not ignoring you mate just trying to roll this gear lol
ty for all your advice
im out of gloves to try and hit so i got to go farm again. do you have a specific method to farm slam exalts or just send maps with imprints?
charred ridge
idk depends if u have havocs or not lol
carmine harbor
down to 10 havocs lol.
carmine harbor
ill imprint my 766 ones and do some maps get a few to roll
charred ridge
you'll have an easier time crafting 7xxx
triple exalted items are not exactly easy to craft
sick pagoda
@charred ridge isn't 1 phantom grasp ring with 8% mana better then 1 julra ring?
- for damage you can ofcourse use one julra ring
half kelp
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olbXZ56Qanyone got any pointers on passives? context: 900c, normal abe farm
where to go aside from the obvious primal relic
half kelp
gg
lost gale
GG indeed
half kelp
the hunt for triple t7 begins
round gate
why am I losing health?
coarse hinge
When I use Aura of Decay I get a massive negative physical res, any way to negate that besides gear phys res?
astral zephyr
Hello. I am on my alt character and i would like a lvl boost. I unlocked my Monos.
coarse hinge
thanks, thats what I suspected, that phys damage res was not needed
obtuse quest
When I use Aura of Decay I get a massive negative physical res, any way to negat...
Less int=less self and enemy physical res cut.
You'll probably still want some physical res, just that capping probably isn't a priority. You'll figure it out if you take too many hits.
quick willow
gg
I put that with 4 LP in the turtle and got 0 LP back, didn't thank would be possible 😄
lost gale
why would you put a 4lp in the turtle?
median pebble
are there any new techs/builds (apart from popular flay builds) found for lich/warlock this season?
coarse hinge
there are some bugs that can be used, if that counts
median pebble
if the bugs is interesting or the resulting build, yeah sure I would love to hear about it
lost gale
are there any new techs/builds (apart from popular flay builds) found for lich/w...
Marrow Shards is doing way way more damage than it should, the 2x damage if you consume a minion node is apparently actually a 4x damage 1 pointer, there's something about apathy (+25% more damage, can hit your minions) which adds way more damage than it should too but it's inconsistent and something else too
coarse hinge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJBmCe929X0 bugs makes this work...
lost gale
oh yeah, for some reason the flay boots when they trigger rip blood along with marrow shards are causing marrow shards to benefit from the % more spell damage per max mana bonus twice
median pebble
yeah I know about this, but it is mostly used by flay builds
lost gale
some of that is totally usable without flay tho
coarse hinge
You can play it with rip blood
lost gale
just rip blood triggering marrow shards and having summon skeletons reviving can do shitloads of damage
also it's necro not lich or warlock but Lich's Scorn and cold Aura of Decay combine to let you get 2% cold pen per intelligence
along with tons of flat cold from Lich's Scorn potentially
underexplored rn but lots of potential I think
median pebble
true, has anyone tested dot builds using AoD and flay with that flay node that increased AoD ailment frequency?
lost gale
not that I know of, seems a bit underwhelming given the mana issues the build is likely to have spamming flay and speccing the AoD ailment frequency stuff
median pebble
maybe you could use that new primordial ring that reduces mana cost?
lost gale
I don't think that works for the AoD cost
it says it "drains mana each second" rather than describing it as a cost
that ring doesn't work for stuff that "consumes" mana, idk if drain is the per-second version of consume or if it's implemented as a cost
also that ring only reduces the cost of spells and AoD isn't a spell in the first place
median pebble
makes sense, I wonder if there is a way to sustain mana, but cant think of a way that would let you spam flay and regain mana
lost gale
makes sense, I wonder if there is a way to sustain mana, but cant think of a way...
summon skeletons specialised for reviving & giving mana on death, marrow shards specialised for consuming minions, flay specialised for triggering marrow shards.
BUT marrow shards has literally no scaling for ailments whatsoever, flay is much better for hit than ailments outside of the AoD stuff and AoD itself doesn't apply strong ailments either.
seems like a convoluted zDPS build
at least if you make it all phys/bleed then it's easy to have flay proliferate ailments
also you have to build crit to have flay trigger mshards reliably which is obviously not trivial or really what you want to be doing with your affixes for an ailment build
median pebble
I believe there is a bleed flay build but if I remember correctly it does not try to force AoD to be the main source of bleed
it is a bit hard to make Dot lich
though some stupid minion loop with flay skeletons and marrow shards might be fun to play
charred ridge
<@177836786435883008> isn't 1 phantom grasp ring with 8% mana better then 1 julr...
why
versed fox
I'm running a bleed flay build. It's homemade though, and I'm still working towards my last few harbingers
The content's easy I just haven't had the playtime to get it done
stuck owlBOT
versed fox
Still a lot to shuffle around
lost gale
it is a bit hard to make Dot lich
in 1.2 lich was pretty great at using poison overload to deal good DPS
but the changes to the tree and death seal have really diminished that
median pebble
huh, there were no changes this patch to hungering souls, that skill does need some love
drowsy ocean
there are a quite few posts about abom's soul reave..it sounds like there's no downside to it
neat wave
Anyone else having survive issues with rip blood lich? I find i do fantastic damage but get 1 shot very often
tight hawk
For the MaxRoll harvast flay lich build, is there a better option for a relic? It looks like we don't benefit from a lot of the twisted heart stats?
median pebble
if you play mana stack flay and use idols to stack mana, the new primordial unique relick is great
tight hawk
I will go mana flay eventually, but I don't have teh gear yet
little wigeon
The twisted heart is just a stat stick for the 20% HP and some armor from the strength. You can run any exalted (putrid souls base looks best) with affixes that fit your needs
tight hawk
Ok thank you so much!
molten bramble
I will go mana flay eventually, but I don't have teh gear yet
it is such a lie about gear I went mana flay at 60 with no axe and 400 mana. It gets even better with axe. You should have no issues swapping to mana stack early. You just may have to be careful with mana early on.
austere lichen
anyone ever mess with flame whip warlock? seems cool
little wigeon
It was pretty strong season 2 and killed uber so it should be the same or better since warlock wasn't touched much and now there's primordials
Oh wait I forget it did use the leech for dmg mechanic which was nerfed but besides that it should be ok
austere lichen
sick then
thought i would switch to lich after leveling as warlock but i forgot how fun and speedy this class is
i last played it in 1.1 when it was pretty busted
i remember warlock being able to spam a certain skill to make profrane veil cool down lessen but i'm guessing they removed that?
tight hawk
it is such a lie about gear I went mana flay at 60 with no axe and 400 mana. It...
Oh I had no idea. The guide says to not swap until you have 800 mana and the uniques
little wigeon
Maxroll 💀 I started at 500mana and worked up from there np
molten bramble
The guide on max roll was made by people who never season started the build or experienced it. The mana expenditure scales with mana pool meaning that even with a low mana pool it can be played. I went warlock until 60 then swapped to mana flay lich. It was ok and you had to baby your mana a bit. At 70 with the axe and around 400 mana you are off to the races.
Just make sure you prio mana rolls on chest/helm/relic/gloves and try to get as many mana idols as possible
viscid geyser
for ice harvest lich do I need to crit cap?
little wigeon
For most hit builds, the goal is crit cap yes
It should be relatively easy since there is base crit chance nodes in harvest and flay
viscid geyser
is it that much of a increase if I have the 9% increase base crit on harvest and the 100% global crit chance? I am wondering if I should rock T6 crit chance on my ring so I don't have to risk bricking it like I did for my other 5 rings.
little wigeon
You should be running daggers which also add base crit, did you count those? There's a blessing for 80% crit chance and reaper form for 100% crit chance as well as lich passive for crit. Kinda gotta do the math yourself as the skill tree nodes won't show on the character sheet, nor reaper if not in reaper
viscid geyser
I did not count the dagger. yeah I guess I should be good. I went to the dummy and I see mostly yellow with maybe after every 10 hits I see normal numbers
tight hawk
The guide on max roll was made by people who never season started the build or e...
Is it not advised to follow those builds? Are at least the spells and gearing choices correct or is it just the estimation of when you can run it that's off?
molten bramble
I think the mana flay build on maxroll is fairly poor the gearing choices leave you as very frail
but you are able to build it with very good defenses and great damage
getting red rings or font of the erased using pale ox or core of the mountain
little wigeon
The gearing is pretty different. Traitors tongue/primordial relic vs T8 rune dagger. Forces you to run crit rings and the unique gloves which then you lose out on armor to dot dr as well as red rings or font of erased
molten bramble
using brewmaster belt
normal set up is axe/traitors so that you do not have to use rings for crit
molten bramble
I think if you use primordial dagger you are just forced to be paper in defense but you have top end dmg
charred ridge
Is it not advised to follow those builds? Are at least the spells and gearing ch...
i think the thing with maxroll builds is that the guys are prioritizing quantity over quality, they're a relatively small team who are required to cover a wide variety of builds for the game
so they don't have time to spend entire days thinking about just one build and playing it from no gear to giga endgame gear
so they're decent but generally not super optimized
charred ridge
I think if you use primordial dagger you are just forced to be paper in defense ...
from what i've seen no one has yet to gear a lich in a way that they'd get more damage out of a rune dagger
molten bramble
just better to use julra's i guess
charred ridge
yeah stardials are pretty op for an item you get at level like 40-50
but aside from the choice of rings, losing 9% base crit from TT forces you to run increased crit affixes, which are always shared on slots that could use better stats (like mana or int)
the only slots where you'd actually want to slam crit are relic & amulet, of course it would need to be your 2nd LP so the gear requirement is inherently high budget for the rune dagger
and at that point getting another 5% dmg just doesnt really matter, i'm done with my gearing and uber consistently dies in 36 seconds (without marrow shards)
odd pasture
Thank you noobzor for showing your lich tanky Version, i changed from max DMG to survivability so i dont die through every Hit and today i killed uber 3 Times, still 60 trys though😄
charred ridge
nice
link planner rq so i can see what level of gear you did it with?
just curious